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>> CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE OUT

IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY ITS

PATRONS, SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE,

PLACES AND QUALITY OF LIFE THAT

UNIQUE KNEE DESCRIBE

CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS

SURROUNDINGS AND BY VIEWERS

LIKE YOU.

THANK YOU.

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>> SO HERE WE ARE.

NOW BACK INTO THE SUMMERTIME

WEATHER.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTER YOU

CAN GO IN AND WARM UP.

>> THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL

COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT

DESERVES A SPECIAL PROGRAM LIKE

PARADE REST.

>> FOR WHTJ, I AM TER TER.

THIS IS "CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE

OUT."

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>> TODAY WE ARE GOING TO LEARN

ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS

RESTORE

RESTORING A HISTORIC RESOURCE

THAT HAS BEEN ABANDONED FOR

MANY YEARS INTO AN EXCITING

RECREATION AND HERITAGE

DESTINATION.

JOIN US AS WE TALK WITH ALLEN

JOIN US AS WE TALK WITH ALLEN

HALE BY THE CLAUDIUS CROZET

BLUE RIDGE FOUNDATION.

ALLEN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE

HISTORY OF THE TUNNEL AND WHY

IT WAS BUILT.

>> WELL, IT IS A VERY

INTERESTING HISTORY IN THE

EARLY PART OF THE 19th CENTURY

IN VIRGINIA, THERE WAS A GREAT

EFFORT TO MOVE TO THE SHENADOAH

VALLEY TO CONNECT THE COASTAL

PLANE WITH THE OHIO VALLEY.

AND IN THE EARLY YEARS CANALS

ARE SEEN AS THE WAY TO DO THIS

ALONG THE JAMES RIVER, THE

JAMES RIVER KANAWHA CANAL WAS

VERY FAMOUS AND IT WAS VERY

SLOW.

KIND OF LIKE RAILROADS WERE

STARTING TO COME INTO PEOPLE'S

THINKING AND THEN IT WAS

REALIZED THAT THE RAILROAD

WOULD BE COMPARED TO THE CANAL

LIKE THE HORSE TO THE MOTOR CAR

LIKE THE HORSE TO THE MOTOR

CAR.

>> RIGHT.

>> THAT SORT OF THING.

>> RIGHT.

>> SO THAT'S WHY THERE WAS

GREAT IMPETUS BEGINNING IN THE

1830s, 1840s TO BUILD RAILROADS

1830s, 1840s TO BUILD

RAILROADS.

>> OKAY.

AND SO HOW DID THIS COME TO BE?

>> THIS PARTICULAR CHALLENGE,

THE RAILROAD WAS BEING BUILT

FROM RICHMOND, WENT TO LOUISA,

GORDONSVILLE, AND WAS MOVING

THIS WAY.

>> RIGHT.

>> AND THEN THEY SAW THE BLUE

RIDGE MOUNTAINS, AND THE

PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT WERE

BUILDING RAILROADS, ALSO

STARTED ON THE VALLEY SAID.

SAID THAT PROJECT IS TOO

DIFFICULT FOR US TO UNDERTAKE.

SO THAT IS WHEN THE GENERAL

ASSEMBLY THROUGH THE BOARD OF

PUBLIC WORKS WHICH IS OUR

EQUIVALENT OF VDOT TODAY

DECIDED TO UNDERTAKE THIS 17

DECIDED TO UNDERTAKE THIS

17-MILE PROJECT FROM MEACHUM'S

RIVER TO SOUTH RIVER AND BUILD

THE RAILROAD THROUGH THE

MOUNTAINS.

>> AND CLAUDIUS CROZET WAS

HIRED.

HE WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

>> YES, CROZET WAS THE PROJECT

ENGINEER HERE.

HE WAS A BRILLIANT ENGINEER

EDUCATED AT ECOLE POLYTECHNIQUE

IN FRANCE.

IN FRANCE.

FOUGHT IN NAPOLEON'S ARMY IN

THE INVASION OF RUSSIA BUT IN

1916 HE IMMIGRATED TO THE

UNITED STATES AND TAUGHT AT

WEST POINT FOR EIGHT YEARS.

THEN THE BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS

HIRED HIM OF VIRGINIA, AND HE

MOVED TO VIRGINIA, AND THEY

WANTED HIM TO EXPAND THE CANAL

SYSTEM.

SO HE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE

STATE LOOKING AT THE

POSSIBILITY

POSSIBILITIES, AND THEN HE

ADVISED THEM THAT RAILROAD WERE

THE ANSWER.

AND ULTIMATELY, HE WAS HIRED IN

1849 AS THE PROJECT ENGINEER TO

DO THIS TUNNEL.

AND IT WAS HIS DESIGN OF THIS

ENTIRE STRETCH --

>> RIGHT.

>> -- THAT WAS BUILT.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN.

IT IS DESIGNED A CERTAIN WAY

FOR A REASON.

THE SHAPE OF THE TUNNEL, THE

ENTRANCE, RIGHT.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE

DESIGN AND WE WILL GET INTO THE

DIFFICULTIES.

>> YEAH, SO THERE WERE -- THERE

WERE A TOTAL OF FOUR TUNNELS ON

THIS SECTION STARTING AT THE

GREENWOOD TUNNEL, THE

BROOKSVILLE TUNNEL, AND THE

LITTLE ROCK TUNNEL, WHICH IS

STILL ON THE LIVE TRACK TODAY

USED EVER SINCE THE 1850s.

AND THEN THE BLUE RIDGE TUNNEL

WHICH WAS THE BIG ONE, 4264

FEET.

>> WOW.

>> SO CROZET CALLED FOR AT A

HEIGHT OF 20 FEET TO HAVE 16

FEET OF WIDTH IN ORDER FOR THE

LOCOMOTIVES AT THAT TIME TO GET

THROUGH.

AND HE CONCLUDED THAT AN

ELLIPTICAL SHAPE WHICH YOU CAN

SEE BACK HERE, THAT WOULD

REQUIRE LESS BLASTING OF ROCK.

>> IT IS GREEN STONE.

RIGHT.

TALK ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT AND

TIME CONSUMING TO GET THROUGH

THIS STONE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THIS ROCK IS CALLED "GREEN

STONE" AND SOME OF HARDEST ROCK

IN THE WORLD.

IN THE 18 50s WHEN THEY WERE

DOING THIS PROJECT.

NO NITROGLYCERIN OR DYNAMITE.

IT WAS BLACK POWDER, AND IT WAS

DRILLED -- THE HOLES WHICH YOU

CAN SEE HADN'T BEEN -- ON THE

WALL HERE WERE DRILLED BY ONE

FELLOW HOLDING A STEEL BAR WITH

-- ACTUALLY

-- ACTUAL HAD A CHISEL TIP.

AND THE OTHER FELLOW WOULD

SWING THE SLEDGEHAMMER AND

WOULD TURN A LITTLE BIT, SWING

THE SLEDGEHAMMER, TURN IT A

LITTLE BIT.

ENOUGH DUST IN THE BOTTOM OF

IT, HAVE ANOTHER -- A KID COME

AND PULL IT OUT SO IT WOULD

KEEP GOING.

THEY PACKED IT WITH BLACK

POWDER AND SHOT IT.

>> HOW LONG DID IT TAKE?

>> WELL, THIS PROJECT WENT ON

FROM 1850 REALLY -- THE RAIL

FROM 1850 REALLY -- THE

RAILROAD STARTED RUNNING.

THEY BROKE THROUGH IT AT THE

END OF 1856.

SOME MONTHS, THEY WOULD ONLY

MAKE 16 FEET.

>> BECAUSE OF THE STONE.

>> BECAUSE OF THE STONE AND THE

FACT -- AND THEY WORKED 24

HOURS A DAY.

THREE EIGHT-HOUR SHIFTS.

THEY WORKED ON TWO LEVELS.

ON THE HEADERS AND THE FLOORS

BELOW THEM SO THEY COULD HAVE

TWO CREWS HAMMERING AWAY.

>> AND AS THEY GOT TO THE OTHER

END OF THE TUNNEL, IT CHANGED A

BIT.

SO MORE BRICK WAS INVOLVED.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> NO, YEAH, IT IS VERY

INTERESTING BECAUSE THE

MATERIAL ON THE WEST SIDE,

WHICH IS ON THE SHENADOAH

VALLEY SIDE IS MUCH LOOSER

MATERIAL SO IT STARTED CAVING

IN ALL THE TIME.

THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS

WHEN IT WAS FINISHED.

YOU KNOW.

IT IS VERY SOLID.

PIECES DON'T FALL OFF.

THEY MIGHT INSIDE BUT NOT

WITHIN THE TUNNEL.

AND HE FOUND ON THAT SIDE -- BY

THE WAY, THEY WERE WORKING FROM

TWO ENDS.

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> SO PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE

HAD TO LINE THE TUNNEL AGAIN IN

THE SAME ELLIPTICAL SHAPE BUT

WITH BRICKS.

>> NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE

PEOPLE WHO BUILT THIS TUNNEL.

>> WELL, THE -- AT THIS TIME,

YOU KNOW, THIS WAS FOLLOWING

THE FAMINE IN IRELAND.

SO THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF

IRISHMEN WHO CAME TO THE UNITED

STATES.

IMMIGRATED TO THE UNITED STATES

AND THEY WORKED ON CONSTRUCTION

PROJECTS.

THEY GOT PAID INITIALLY $.90 A

DAY.

SO THEY WERE THE ONES WHO

WORKED IN THE TUNNEL.

THEY HAD EXPERIENCE WITH MINING

FOR TIN AND COPPER FROM IRELAND

FOR TIN AND COPPER FROM

IRELAND, SO THEY WERE

EXPERIENCED AT THIS KIND OF

LABOR.

>> THEY LIVED THERE.

THEIR FAMILIES LIVED THERE WITH

THEM.

THEY PUT UP SHACKS AND TENTS.

>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE IN

WAYNESBORO AND CROZET WOULD

HAVE TO TRAVEL.

THEY LIVED RIGHT ADJACENT TO

THE SITE.

THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THE

LABOR FORCE WERE

AFRICAN-AMERICAN SLAVES WHO

WERE HIRED THEIR OWNERS, MOSTLY

FROM A LEMAR LE COUNTY AND CAME

AND DID WORK ON THE CUTS AND

CULVERTS.

A LOT OF THAT WORK AS YOU GO

DOWN TOWARD CROZET.

BECAUSE OF THEIR VALUE, THE

IRISH WERE CONSIDERED

DISPENSABLE.

THE SLAVES WERE TOO VALUABLE TO

PUT IN THE TUNNEL.

SO THEIR OWNER SAID THEY CAN

WORK ON THIS PROJECT, BUT NOT

IN THE TUNNELS.

>> AND IT FUNCTIONED FOR A LONG

TIME UNTIL, WHAT, THE '40s WHEN

A NEW TUNNEL WAS BUILT, AND

THIS WAS LEFT BEHIND.

>> THE NEW TUNNEL WHICH IS

RIGHT ADJACENT TO US.

YOU CAN SEE IT OVER THERE ON

THE ACTIVE TRACK STILL USED

TODAY WAS PUT THROUGH 1942-'44.

>> YEAH.

LET'S TALK ABOUT TODAY'S

PROJECT.

SO WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THE

TUNNEL?

>> WELL, THE TUNNEL IS GOING TO

BE OPEN SOME DAY SOON WE HOPE

AS A WALKING AND BICYCLING

TRAIL THAT WILL BE ABLE TO GO

FROM AFTON WHERE YOU PARK ALL

THE WAY THROUGH BENEATH THE

BLUE RIDGE AND THEN BE A

WESTERN TRAIL THAT COMES UP ON

TO 250 ON THE WEST SIDE.

SO WE HAVE COMPLETED, YOU KNOW,

WITH THE IDEA OF THIS HAS BEEN

GOING ON FOR ALMOST 16 YEARS,

BUT IT REALLY GOT UNDER WAY

WITH FUNDING FROM THE VIRGINIA

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO

DO THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING

STUDIES.

AND THEN WE BUILT PHASE ONE,

AGAIN, WITH THIS SAME FUNDING.

AND NOW WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF

GETTING A CONTRACT TO DO THE

RESTORATION OF THE BRICKWORK

WHERE IT HAS FALLEN IN AND A

NICE TRAIL WITH EVEN DRAINAGE

ON EITHER SIDE SO PEOPLE CAN

WALK ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

>> WHO DO YOU ANTICIPATE IS

GOING TO COME AND VISIT THE

SPACE AND USE THE SPACE?

>> WELL, WHENEVER WE HAVE

OFFERED PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY

TO VISIT THE TUNNEL, THEY HAVE

JUMPED ON IT RIGHT AWAY.

WE HAD SOME TOURISTS WITHIN 24

HOURS OF WHERE WE ANNOUNCED IT,

IT IS FULL.

EVERYONE WHO SEES THIS IS

FASCINATED BY IT.

IT'S -- IT'S AN ENGINEERING

FEAT, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST

IMPRESSIVE OF THE 19th CENTURY.

THIS IS THE LONGEST RAILROAD

TUNNEL THROUGH MOUNTAINS AND

THE LAST MAJOR TUNNEL TO BE

DONE WITH BLACK POWDER.

SO HISTORICAL INTEREST FROM THE

POINT OF VIEW OF ENGINEERS.

THEY HAVE A CIVIL WAR

CONNECTION IN THAT STONEWALL

JACKSOON TOOK HIS TROOPS

THROUGH IN THE TRAIN, AND 1862,

PEOPLE OF IRISH DESCENT HAVE A

LOT OF INTEREST IN -- IN THE

WORK THAT THESE IRISH WORKERS

DID.

SO IT WILL DRAW PEOPLE FROM ALL

OVER.

RAILROAD PLANS.

VMI, CROZET HALL IS NAMED FOR

HIM IN FACT.

IT WILL BE I AM SURE A VERY

POPULAR DESTINATION AND WILL

HAVE LOCAL INTERESTS, REGIONAL

AND I THINK NATIONAL INTEREST.

>> WHO MAKES UP THE FOUNDATION?

>> THE FOUNDATION WAS FORMED

WHEN WE SAW THE NEED TO HAVE A

PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP,

BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME ASPECTS

OF THIS PROJECT THAT THE

FUNDING WAS NOT ENOUGH FOR, BUT

WHAT WE ARE STANDING ON HERE

WAS THIS ROCK THAT WAS PUT IN

TO GET US ABOVE WATER BECAUSE

THERE WAS A BIG POOL OF WATER

IN THERE THAT WAS PAID FOR BY

THE FOUNDATION.

ALSO, THE PURCHASE OF THE LAND

WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS.

THE FOUNDATION CONSISTS OF

SUPERVISORS FROM AUGUSTA COUNTY

SUPERVISORS FROM AUGUSTA

COUNTY, ALBEMARLE COUNTY AND

NELSON COUNTY.

NELSON COUNTY IS THE OWNER OF

THIS PROJECT, ALL OF THE LOCAL

GOVERNMENTS HAVE PLAYED A PART

IN THIS.

>> THE CITY OF WAIPS BORO.

>> THE CITY OF WANESBORO HAS

BEEN VERY IMPORTANT PART OF

THIS PROJECT.

>> AND I HEAR WATER.

WATER RUNNING IN THIS TUNNEL.

>> YES, SCENES IN THE MOUNTAIN

AND WATER COMES IN GREAT

VOLUME, AND, OF COURSE, SURFACE

WATER RUNS OVER THE PORTALS.

BUT MOST OF THE WATER COMES

FROM WITHIN THE TUNNEL, AND THE

TUNNEL SLOPES FROM THE

SHENADOAH VALLEY SIDE TO THIS

SIDE ABOUT 50 FEET.

TO THE WATER RUNS ON EACH SIDE

THROUGH DITCHES.

SO THERE IS WATER RUNNING

THROUGH TUNNEL YEAR ROUND.

>> REALLY, FRESH BLUE RIDGE

MOUNTAIN WATER.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

DELICIOUS WATER I CAN ATTEST TO

THAT.

I HAVE PUT IT IN MY CANTEEN

MANY TIMES.

>> SO IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO

GET INVOLVED, HOW DO THEY GET

INVOLVED?

>> WE ARE HOPE

>> WE ARE HOPING TO EXPAND THE

WORK OF THE FOUNDATION.

SORT OF BEEN BUILDING UP WITH A

SMALL CORE GROUP, AND I THINK

MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WILL BE

ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH FUND

RAISING WHICH IS WHAT THE

FOUNDATIONS USUALLY NEED, BUT

THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT

OF HAVING THIS TUNNEL OPEN,

THEN THERE WILL BE LOTS OF

ACTIVITIES, EITHER PEOPLE DOING

VOLUNTEER WORK AS GUIDES OR

VARIOUS OTHER THINGS OF THAT

SORT.

>> SO YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON

THIS PROJECT FOR A WHILE.

YOU HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS FOR

QUITE A WHILE.

WHAT ARE YOU PERSONALLY MOST

EXCITED ABOUT?

>> WELL, I ALWAYS -- YOU KNOW,

FROM THE VERY FIRST MOMENT I

WENT IN THIS TUNNEL, I THOUGHT

THIS IS FANTASTIC.

IT IS A HIDDEN TREASURE UNDER

THE BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAINS, AND I

ALSO FEEL LIKE I HAVE ON BOTH

SIDES OF THE MOUNTAINS.

I WAS BORN IN CHARLOTTESVILLE,

I CREW UP IN VIRGINIA AND NOW

LIVE IN NELSON COUNTY.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK

THROUGH INSTEAD OF CRAWLING

THROUGH A PIPE.

>> THIS IS SO EXCITING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

IT'S GREAT.

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>>> THE SCHOOL IS ONE OF THE

DRIEST, HOTTEST PLACES IN THE

STATE.

BUT GETTING THERE ON A TRAIN IS

MARVELOUS.

I SAW SO MUCH OF THE UNITED

STATES.

I HAD NEVER BEEN EXCEPT TO WEST

VIRGINIA AND D.C. AND VIRGINIA

IN MY LIFE.

>> MOST VETERANS WILL TELL YOU

WHAT THEY MISS MORE THAN

ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR TIME IN

THE MILITARY IS CAMARADERIE.

THEY MISS FEELING LIKE THEY

BELONG.

>> ED TO WE ARE GOING TO

FEATURE AN ORGANIZATION THAT

SUPPORTS LOCAL SERVICEMEN AND

WOMEN BY PROVIDING FREE TICKETS

TO SHOWS AND SPORTING EVENTS,

SPONSORING RECREATIONAL

EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND

GATHERINGS AND SHARING

IMPORTANT ORAL HISTORIES.

THEIR GOAL IS TO CONNECT OR

RECONNECT VETERANS TO FRIENDS,

FAMILIES, AND THE

CHARLOTTESVILLE COMMUNITY AT

LARGE.

JOIN US AS WE LEARN ABOUT

PARADE REST WEST VIRGINIA.

COME ON.

>> GREG, WHAT INSPIRED TO YOU

START PARADE REST.

>> THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING

MOBILIZED AND LEAVES ANY FAMILY

MOBILIZED AND LEAVES ANY

FAMILY, THREE YOUNG CHILDREN

AND WIFE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE,

AND REALIZING THAT THIS IS A

GENEROUS COMMUNITY THAT JUST

DID NOT HAVE A MECHANISM TO --

TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE AND TO

CONNECT WITH -- WITH MILITARY

FAMILIES WHO MIGHT BE IN NEED.

>> SO WHAT -- TALK ABOUT THAT.

WHAT DOES PARADE REST DO TO

MAKE THAT HAPPEN?

>> WELL, IT REALLY STARTED OUT

AS A PROBLEMS BECAUSE I HAD

BEEN GIVEN 20 TICKETS TO A P

ARK RAMOUNT CONCERT AND WAS

ASKED TO DISTRIBUTE THEM TO

MILITARY, AND I HAD A DIFFICULT

TIME DOING THAT.

THIS IS NOT THE JOB OF THE

NATIONAL GUARD ARMORY.

THIS IS NOT THE JOB OF THE

OTHERS WHO ARE ENGAGED, AND SO

WE DECIDED TO SET UP OUR OWN

MECHANISM.

SO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD

THOSE WHO WERE TRULY MILITARY

AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEN IT

REALLY BUILT FROM THAT INITIAL

FOUNDATION.

THAT PROBLEM OF NOT BEING ABLE

TO EQUABLY DELIVER THE

GENEROSITY OF PEOPLE IN THE

COMMUNITY.

>> AN WANTING TO DO SOMETHING

NICE.

>> YES.

>> -- FOR OUR SERVICE MEN AND

WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES.

SOMETHING RECREATIONAL,

SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ENJOY

AND BE AT PEACE AND RELAX AND

NOT WORRY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

NOTHING BETTER THAN YOU CAN DO

FOR A SERVICEMEMBER THAN TO LET

HIM AND HER KNOW THAT HIS OR

HER FAMILY IS BEING TAKEN CARE

OF.

>> YEAH, AND THEN THE PROGRAM

-S OUT.

AND THE PROGRAM EVOLVED FROM

THERE, AND NOW NOT ONLY DO YOU

HAVE THE TICKETING PROGRAM, BUT

YOU ALSO ARE PART OF THIS

WONDERFUL ORAL STORY SERIES.

NICKEL FOR YOUR STORY.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> THIS REALLY GREW OUT OF MY

TIME WHEN I WAS A MEDICAL

STUDENT.

BEING AROUND SO MANY WORLD WAR

I VETERANS BUT NOT REALIZING

THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE

AROUND FOREVER AND ONLY AFTER

LEARNING ON TELEVISION THAT THE

LAST WORLD WAR I VETERAN HAD

DIED THAT I REALIZED SUCH A

MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

BOTH OF MY GRANDFATHERS FOUGHT

IN WORLD WAR I, AND YET I NEVER

HAD AN OPPORTUNITY -- I NEVER

TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK

ABOUT -- ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE

ABOUT -- ABOUT THEIR

EXPERIENCE.

AND THEN THE REALIZATION THAT

OUR WORLD WAR II VETERANS WERE

IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.

>> RIGHT.

>> DAILY WE ARE LOSING THOSE

MEN AND WOMEN, AND THERE IS NOW

AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.

TO -- TO SIT DOWN WITH PEOPLE

AND TO -- AND TO HEAR THEIR

STORIES.

>> WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO

TELL THEIR STORIES?

WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED WHEN YOU

WERE DOING THIS?

>> OKAY, GOSH.

I LEARNED SO MUCH.

FIRST OF ALL, IT IS VERY

IMPORTANT FOR THE FAMILIES.

OFTEN, THE FAMILIES HAVE NOT

HEARD THE STORIES.

>> RIGHT.

>> FAMILIES ARE VERY PROTECTED

OF SERVICEMEMBERS, FAMILY

MEMBERS, TEND TO BE STOIC ANY

MEMBERS, TEND TO BE STOIC

ANYWAY AND THE THOUGHT IS JUST

NOT TO -- NOT TO ASK.

WAIT UNTIL IT IS BROUGHT UP.

AND THROUGH THIS THIRD PARTY,

DOING AN INTERVIEW, IT ALLOWS

THE SERVICE MEMBER, THE VETERAN

THE SERVICE MEMBER, THE

VETERAN, TO SAY IF YOU ARE

INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN

WATCH THIS.

>> GREW UP IN CHARLOTTESVILLE

AND I NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE ELSE.

THIS WAS A WHOLE NEW LIFE.

>> I REALIZED IN TALKING WITH

THE STUDENTS THAT THEY SEE ME

NOW, AND THEY DON'T SEE ME --

I WAS 18 YEARS OLD, ALMOST 19

YEARS OLD.

I WAS THEIR AGE WHEN I WAS

DOING THIS.

AND THEY HAD JOINED THE

FORMATION, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE

WHAT WE ALL DID.

I MEAN IT IS NOT THAT UNUSUAL

OR REMARKABLE.

>> NOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN

INTERVIEWING VETERANS OF THE

KOREAN WAR AND THE VIETNAM WAR,

NOT JUST WORLD WAR II VETERANS.

IT HAS EVOLVED INTO THAT.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER

WONDERFUL PROGRAM "FINDING THE

FALLEN."

TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH

THE WORLD WAR II VETERANS, THE

TIMES OF EMOTIONS WERE OF THOSE

LEFT BEHIND, PEOPLE THAT THEY

HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW.

FRIENDS THAT THEY MADE IN THE

MILITARY WHO DIED DURING THEIR

SERVICE.

AND SO THERE WAS KIND OF A

FEELING ON OUR PART THAT THERE

WAS SOMETHING WE COULD DO TO

HONOR THOSE PEOPLE.

AND SO WE FOCUSED ON THOSE FROM

CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ALBEMARLE

AND THOSE THAT ATTENDED THE

UNIVERSITY OF WEST VIRGINIA.

THE WAR IS A GREAT LEVELLER

THOSE CITY AND COUNTY PEOPLE

FOUGHT RIGHT ALONGSIDE THOSE IN

THE UNIVERSITY AND SOMETIMES

DIED NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

>> RIGHT.

TALK ABOUT HOW THIS PROGRAM IS

CONNECTING THE COMMUNITY.

>> AFTER WE FIRST DID OUR

PROGRAM AT THE P ARK RAMOUNT

THEATRE AND SHOWED THOSE

PHOTOGRAPHS WE HAVE ALREADY

BEEN ABLE TO OBTAIN, WORKSHOP

REALLY GRATIFIED TO RECEIVE

PHOTOGRAPHS OF THOSE WHO WOULD

NOT YET GONE.

FROM FAMILY MEMBERS WHO -- WHO

WERE REALLY TOUCHED BY THE FACT

THAT WE WERE TRYING TO REMEMBER

AND MAKING THIS PART OF THE

COMMUNITY.

NOT ONLY THAT, WE ALSO HAVE

GOTTEN NAMES OF PEOPLE WE

DIDN'T EVEN HAVE.

AND SO TO GET CONTACTS FROM

RICHMOND AND LYNCHBURG AND

VARIOUS PLACES.

AND SAY I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE

INTERESTED IN MY UNCLE.

I UNDER STAND YOU ARE

INTERESTED IN MY BROTHER.

HERE IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF HIM IS

REALLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS

ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS

KNITTING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER

IN I THINK A VERY MEANFUL WAY.

>> A BIG PART OF PARADE REST

WHAT YOU ALL DO.

IN DOING YOUR RESEARCH FOR

NICKEL FOR YOUR STORY AND

FINDING THE FALLEN.

YOU ARE FINDING, FOR EXAMPLE,

B-17 FLYERS WHO DIDN'T KNOW

THERE WERE BOTH IN THE SAME

COMMUNITY.

>> YES.

>> AND YOU ARE CONNECTING.

I MEAN, THAT IS AMAZING.

>> B-17 FLIERS, FOR EXAMPLE,

THERE ARE VERY FEW OF THEM

LEFT.

SO TO FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE IN

THEIR MID, LATE-90S LIVING

INDEPENDENTLY PERHAPS TWO OR

THREE MILES FROM EACH OTHER AND

THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT IS, IS

REALLY GREAT IN TERMS OF HAVING

AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE

THEM TO EACH OTHER.

SO THERE ARE SERENDIPITOUS

ASPECTS OF THIS THAT ARE THERE.

>> PROBABLY MY FAVORITE OF THE

EVENTS THAT WE DO IS CALLED

"OUR COMMUNITY SALUTES" BECAUSE

THE WHOLE POINT OF IT IS TO

BRING IN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES

WHO ARE INVESTING IN THE

MILITARY, AND WE WANT THEM TO

KNOW THAT THIS COMMUNITY CARES

ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

AND TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WHEN

THEY ARE DONE IN THEIR SERVICE,

WHETHER IT'S FOUR YEARS OR 40

YEARS, WE WILL BE HERE WAITING

FOR THEM WHEN THEY COME BACK.

>> IT IS A GRASS-ROOTS SORT OF

THING.

GLUE HERE.

AND IT CONTINUES TO GROW HERE

WITH LOCAL POPULATION, AND

THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM.

THAT YOU WOULD NEVER GUESS

UNLESS SOMEBODY GOES TO THE

TROUBLE OF SEARCHING THEM OUT.

>> A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE

WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS

HAPPEN.

TALK ABOUT UVA'S INVOLVEMENT.

>> CERTAINLY THE UNIVERSITY OF

VIRGINIA HAS HAD A BIG STAKE IN

MILITARY SERVICE.

THEY HAVE ALWAYS MAINTAINED AN

ROTC PROGRAM, EVEN DURING THOSE

-- THOSE TIMES IN THE '60s AND

's AND HAVE CONTRIBUTED GREATLY

-- AND '70s.

>> AND UVA STUDENTS ARE

CONDUCTING THE STORIES FOR

NICKEL.

>> THEY ARE DOING THE

INTERVIEWS AND WORKING VERY

CLOSELY WITH DEDICATED

VOLUNTEERS AND THEY ARE DOING

THE RESEARCH FOR FINDING THE

FALLEN AS WELL.

SO IT REALLY HAS PROVIDED AN

OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS THAT

-- THAT IS MEANINGFUL AS PART

OF THEIR EDUCATION.

>> AND HELP TO DESIGN THE

TICKETING SYSTEM.

THEY ARE VERY, VERY INVOLVED,

AND THEN THE COMMUNITY IS

INVOLVED.

WE HAVE VETERANS WHO ARE ON THE

BOARD.

WE HAVE GOT COMMUNITY MEMBERS

WHO ARE ON THE BOARD, WHO ARE

COMING TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS

HAPPEN, NOT JUST U VA.

NOT JUST VETERANS.

NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY.

EVERYBODY.

>> THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD

BE.

I MEAN IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE

CONTRIBUTION OF THOSE IN THE

CITY AND IN THE COUNTY AND THE

UNIVERSITY, A SHARED COMMITMENT

WITH REGARDS TO NATIONAL

SECURITY AND -- AND SERVICE, IT

ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT -- THAT

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- THAT

THEY CAN WORK WITH HAND IN

HAND.

>> SO IF SOMEONE IN THE

COMMUNITY WANTS TO GET INVOLVED

IN PARADE REST, WHAT DO THEY DO

IN PARADE REST, WHAT DO THEY

DO?

>> WE HAVE A WEB SITE, AND THEY

CAN CALL THE NUMBER ON THE WEB

SITE, AND LET US KNOW WHAT THEY

WOULD LIKE TO DO, THEIR

INTERESTS, AND -- OR SEND US AN

E-MAIL.

I'LL TELL YOU, VOLUNTEERS HAVE

JUST BEEN SO CRITICAL AND

FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR SUCCESS, AND

THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS SO

GRATIFYING FOR US TO SEE THE

COMMUNITY GETTING ENGAGED.

>> YOU MIGHT HAVE SERVED IN

AFGHANISTAN.

AND YOU MIGHT HAVE SERVED IN --

IN AN AIR FORCE BASE IN NORTH

DAKOTA, BUT YOU LOVED YOUR

COMMUNITY, AND NOW YOU HAVE

COME BACK AND RECONNECTING WITH

FAMILY CAN BE DIFFICULT

SOMETIMES AND PROVIDING AN

OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE FOLKS TO

CONNECT AT LITTLE OR NO COST IS

A GREAT THING FOR US TO DO

HERE.

AND THIS MEANS A LOT TO ME.

>> THERE IS NOT A LOT OF US.

WE ALL SEEM TO BE A LITTLE BIT

OLDER THAN WE WERE, BUT THERE

WERE PEOPLE THAT I WOULD HAVE

PASSED ON THE STREET AND YOU

WOULD NEVER THINK OF THEM AS

VETERANS.

AND THEY ALL HAD INTERESTING

STORY

STORIES AND INTERESTING

EXPERIENCES.

>> PARADE REST IS REALLY A

PLATFORM FOR WHICH WE CAN

CONNECT THE COMMUNITY IN THE

MILITARY.

>> RIGHT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT

PARADE REST IS TO FIND THE

COMMONALITY

COMMONALITIES AND TO -- TO

REPORT THES SO THE FUTURE

GENERATIONS CAN BENEFIT.

>> AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT

MANY OF THE -- MANY OF THE

VETERANS DID NOT THINK OF

THEMSELVES AS HEROES AT ALL.

THE PEOPLE THAT THEY CALL

HEROES ARE THE FALLEN.

>> YES, YES.

AND SO ESPECIALLY HONORING THEM

IS -- IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO FAMILY

MEMBERS WHO LOST MEMBERS.

BUT ALSO TO -- TO VETERANS AND

THOSE OF US IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND FINDING THE FALLEN AND AND

SECURING THEIR PHOTOGRAPHS

MAKES IT REAL FOR PEOPLE, I

THINK.

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>> THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.

FOR WHTJ, I AM TERRI ALLARD,

JOIN US NEXT TIME ON

"CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE OUT."

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