>>ANNOUNCER: THIS PRESENTATION
WAS MADE POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART
TO THE PATRONS OF
“CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT ”
COMMITTED TO EXPLORING THE
PEOPLE, PLACES AND QUALITY OF
LIFE THAT UNIQUELY DEFINE
CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS
SURROUNDINGS.
>> KATIE WHITE O'RIORDAN: I'VE
VISITED PSYCH WARDS WHICH IS
SCARY ON ITS OWN BUT I'VE NEVER
WALKED INTO A PRISON BEFORE SO I
DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO
EXPECT.
>>TERRI ALLARD: FOR WHTJ I'M
TERRI ALLARD AND THIS IS
CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT.
>>TERRI: TODAY WE'RE GOING TO
MEET UP WITH A GROUP OF MEN AND
WOMEN WHO GATHER ON A WEEKLY
BASIS TO SOCIALIZE AND COMPETE
IN A SPORT THAT MIGHT LOOK EASY
BUT IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS
CHESS ON ICE. JOIN US AS WE
VISIT THE BLUE RIDGE CURLING
CLUB. COME ON!
>> JAMES ROGOL: CURLING IS THE
STAPLE OF MY MONDAYS. IT'S
SOMETHING THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO
EVERY WEEK.
I GET TO SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR
FACES AND I GET TO GO WITH MY
FRIENDS IN A NICE RELAXED
ATMOSPHERE AND HAVE A LITTLE
FRIENDLY COMPETITION.
>>KATIE MCCARTNEY: IT'S MY
FAVORITE SPORT.
CURLING IS A SPORT PLAYED ON THE
ICE. SOME PEOPLE COMPARE IT TO
SHUFFLE BOARD. WE THROW BIG 42
POUND GRANITE ROCKS ACROSS THE
ICE BACK AND FORTH AT A TARGET.
IT'S BEEN AN OLYMPIC SPORT
SINCE, OH GOSH, FOR THE LAST
THREE WINTER OLYMPICS I THINK.
AND WE HAVE A NEW CLUB IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE AND IT'S I MEAN
FOR US A LOT OF FUN.
IT GOES ALL THE WHOLE RANGE OF
CASUAL BEER LEAGUE TO SUPER
COMPETITIVE OLYMPIC LEVEL
ATHLETES.
>>TERRI: SO THE POINT OF THE
GAME IS --
>>KATIE: SO THE POINT OF THE
GAME IS TO SCORE MORE POINTS
THAN YOUR OPPONENT BY HAVING
MORE OF YOUR TEAM'S STONES IN
THE CENTER OF THE HOUSE, WHICH
IS SORT OF OUR TARGET ON THE
ICE.
>>TERRI: OKAY.
>>KATIE: THAN THE OTHER TEAM. SO
YOU SCORE MORE POINTS BASED ON
HOW MANY ROCKS YOU HAVE ON THAT
TARGET.
>>TERRI: OKAY, SO FIRST OF ALL
LET'S START WITH YOU HAVE TO
PREPARE THE ICE.
TALK ABOUT THE SET UP BEFORE
ANYONE CAN CURL.
>>KATIE: YEAH. RIGHT SO. YES I
>> THERE FACILITIES PREPARED FOR
CURLING SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO
SHARE.
WE GO ON RIGHT AFTER KIDS
HOCKEY, WE HAVE TO DO SOME WORK
BEFORE WE ARE READY TO GET ON
THE ICE, THEY RESURFACE AND THAT
GETS RID OF THE SURFACE
SCRATCHES AND STUFF THAT ARE
LEFT BY THE PREVIOUS SPORT.
THEN WE PEBBLE, WHICH IS,
BASICALLY, A FINE WATER SPRAY
THAT WE SPRAY ACROSS THE ICE
SURFACE.
THOSE LITTLE WATER DROPLETS
FORM, THEY FREEZE IN LITTLE
BEADS ON THE SURFACE OF THE ICE
WHICH BASICALLY BREAKS THE
SURFACE TENSION BETWEEN THE
ROCKS THAT WE ARE THROWING AND
THE SURFACE OF THE ICE.
SO IT GIVES YOU MORE CONTROL
OVER YOUR SHOTS, YOU CAN DO MORE
PREDICTSABLE SHOTS AND IT LET'S
YOUR ROCKS GO THAT WHOLE HUNDRED
AND SOME FEET DOWN TO THE OTHER
SIDE.
>>KATIE: SO IT GIVES YOU SOME
MORE CONTROL OVER YOUR SHOTS.
GIVES YOU A MORE PREDICTABLE
SHOT AND IT LETS YOUR ROCKS GO
THAT WHOLE HUNDRED AND SOME FEET
DOWN TO THE OTHER SIDE. WE MOUNT
HACKS INTO THE ICE WHICH ALLOW
US TO PUSH OFF AND GET THAT NICE
LONG GLIDE THAT THOSE BEAUTIFUL
ATHLETES ON TV HAVE.
>>TERRI: RIGHT, IT'S LIKE A
RUNNER'S BLOCK ALMOST, RIGHT?
>>KATIE: YEAH. RIGHT. EXACTLY.
AND YOU KNOW WE NEED ALL OF OUR
ROCKS.
WE BRING OUT ALL OF OUR ROCKS
AND LIKE MOST CLUBS IN THE
STATES WE PROVIDE ALL THE
EQUIPMENT FOR THE PLAYERS. SO WE
BRING ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON THE
ICE AND THEN IT'S READY TO GO.
>> CORI CAMPBELL: I CURL BECAUSE
IT LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING FUN TO
DO ON MONDAYS.
ME AND MY BOYFRIEND GOT ON THE
TEAM AND WE WERE RANDOMLY GIVEN
TWO OTHER PEOPLE. WE HAVE A LOT
OF FUN.
THEY'RE GOOD.
THEY DID IT LAST SEASON SO
THEY'RE HELPING US OUT.
WE'RE LEARNING FROM THAT AND
ALSO JUST STANDING UP ON ICE IS
IMPRESSIVE.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE A LIFE
SKILL.
>>JAMES ROGOL: DON'T BE AFRAID.
IT'S NOT BY NO MEANS A NORMAL
MOTION UNLESS YOU'RE DOING
LUNGES ON YOUR KITCHEN FLOOR IN
SOCKS.
SO JUST COME OUT AND GIVE YOUR
ALL AND KIND OF KEEP AN OPEN
MIND AND BE WILLING TO TRY NEW
THINGS.
THAT'S REALLY ALL WE CAN ASK.
>> KARA THORNTON: I LIKE TO
THROW. YOU KNOW IT'S JUST A
LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER PRESSURE
SPOT I GUESS BUT IT'S ALWAYS FUN
TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO SCORE SOME
POINTS AND CONTRIBUTE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN REALLY
CONTROL ON MY OWN VS. THE
SWEEPING POSITION WHICH IS
HELPING OUT A TEAMMATE WHICH IS
GREAT TOO BUT IT'S YOU'RE ONE
OFFENSIVE SPOT TO GET TO THROW
SO I REALLY LIKE THAT SPOT THE
BEST.
>>TERRI: SO EXPLAIN THE
POSITIONS, LIKE WHAT DOES
EVERYBODY DO TO ACHIEVE THEIR
GOAL?
>>KATIE: SO YOU HAVE THE LEAD, A
SECOND, A VICE SKIP AND YOUR
SKIP AND YOU THROW IN THAT ORDER
SO FIRST, SECOND, THIRD AND
FOURTH.
YOUR LEAD GENERALLY SPEAKING IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR GUARD SHOTS. SO
YOU LIKE A LEAD THAT HAS A LOT
OF CONTROL OVER HOW FAST THEY
CAN CONTROL THEIR ROCK AND
SPECIFIC PLACEMENT TO SORT OF
PROTECT THE HOUSE FROM YOUR
OPPONENT'S ROCK.
>>TERRI: OKAY.
>>KATIE: A LOT OF TIMES YOUR
SECOND IS CALLED ON TO DO TAKE
OUT SHOTS.
>>TERRI: OH, OKAY.
>>KATIE: SO YOUR SECOND IS
SOMEONE WHO HAS TO HAVE A NICE
STRONG, CONSISTENT WEIGHT, WHO
CAN KIND OF CLEAR THINGS OUT OF
THE WAY FOR YOU AND ALSO YOUR
LEAD AND SECOND HAVE TO BE
REALLY STRONG SWEEPERS SO YOU'RE
RELYING ON YOUR FRONT END TO BE
YOUR SWEEPING MUSCLE TOO.
>>TERRI: OKAY.
>>KATIE: AND THEN YOUR BACK END,
YOUR VICE AND YOUR SKIP ARE SORT
OF MORE YOUR STRATEGY MINDS.
THEY'RE WATCHING THE ICE THEY'RE
SEEING HOW IT GOES SORT OF
PLANNING A COUPLE OF SHOTS
AHEAD.
YOUR VICE IS LIKE YOUR JACK OF
ALL TRADES. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO SET WHATEVER UP THAT YOU NEED
HOPING THAT IT LASTS FOR THE
NEXT COUPLE OF SHOTS.
>>TERRI: RIGHT.
>>KATIE: IDEALLY I PLAY SKIP ON
MY TEAM HERE.
I LIKE TO HAVE TO DO NOTHING.
SO I'M HOPING EVERYBODY TAKES
CARE OF IT BEFORE I GET THERE.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING YOUR SKIP
IS USUALLY MORE EXPERIENCED,
MORE OF A STRATEGIC MIND, AND
MORE OF A FINESSE SHOT.
SO YOU DON'T, I AS A SKIP DON'T
LIKE TO HAVE TO COME INTO A BIG
MESS OF ROCKS IN THE HOUSE.
I LIKE TO SORT OF KNOW WHAT THE
PLAN IS.
>>TERRI: I LIKE THAT, ROCKS IN
THE HOUSE.
>>KATIE: YOU COUNT ON EVERYBODY
ELSE TO SET IT UP FOR YOU.
>>TERRI: THAT'S GREAT, OKAY.
>>KATIE: YEAH.
>>TERRI: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
CLUB.
WHO, WHO PARTICIPATES? THIS IS A
WEEKLY, DURING THE SEASON THIS
IS A WEEKLY CLUB.
WHO COMES IN AND PLAYS?
>>KATIE: OH MY GOSH, ALL KINDS
OF PEOPLE.
IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
LIKE MOST ABOUT CURLING IS HOW
DIVERSE IT IS.
AND IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA
WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF
NATURAL CURLING BECAUSE WE'RE A
WARMER CLIMATE, IT'S MOSTLY
PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN IT
SOMEWHERE, WHETHER IN THE
OLYMPICS OR YOU KNOW THEY'VE
HEARD ABOUT IT AND THEIR
CURIOUS, BUT I MEAN IT'S, IT'S
AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY ALL
KINDS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE
>>TERRI: AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO
HAVE EXPERIENCE.
>>KATIE: NO, NO.
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE
THINGS ABOUT CURLING IS HOW
WELCOMING THE SPORT IS TO PEOPLE
WHO ARE NEW.
THE BEST CURLERS THAT I HAVE
PLAYED WITH WHO JUST OUT MATCH
ME IN SKILL A HUNDRED TIMES ARE
THE MOST WELCOMING AND
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE THAT I'VE
EVER GOTTEN TO MEET AND PLAY
WITH.
SO A LOT OF WHAT UNDERPINS THE
SPORT IN ITS PHILOSOPHY IS
GROWING AND HELPING THOSE PEOPLE
LEARN AND HELPING THEM FIND A
PLACE THAT'S COMFORTABLE FOR
THEM TO KIND OF TRY IT OUT AND
PRACTICE AND THE FELLOWSHIP OF
THAT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT TO THE SPORT IN
GENERAL, BUT TO US AS A CLUB
SPECIFICALLY TOO.
>>DENNIS BEBEL: IT'S A GOOD TIME
TO COME OUT AND GET WITH A GROUP
OF PEOPLE EVERY WEEK.
I'M AN OLDER PERSON AND TO BE
WITH A BUNCH OF VERY YOUNG
PEOPLE JUST PLAYING THIS SPORT
IT KIND OF, I LOOK FORWARD TO
IT.
I ALMOST LOOK AT THEM AS PART OF
MY FAMILY.
>>PATRICK DECKER: WELL IT ALL
STARTED WITH THE NORWEGIAN
CURLING TEAM IN THE OLYMPICS.
WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED SOME KIND
OF PANTS TO GO ALONG WITH IT AND
FROM THE PANTS CAME THE SHOES
AND IT'S JUST SILLY.
WE LIKE TO HAVE FUN.
YOU CAN'T FIND THESE CLOTHES
ANYWHERE IN TOWN.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM ORDERED
BUT FORTUNATELY MY TEAM IS VERY
DEDICATED TO THE SPORT SO WE ALL
KIND OF PITCH IN TOGETHER AND
DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO WEAR
AHEAD OF TIME.
>>TERRI: THE OTHER THING I THINK
ABOUT CURLING IS THAT I THINK
PEOPLE THINK IT LOOKS EASIER
THAN IT IS.
I MEAN I THINK YOU CAN, IT'S A
TRICKY SPORT BUT I THINK IT
LOOKS EASY UNTIL YOU GET OUT
THERE AND TRY IT.
>>KATIE: YEAH.
IT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE
SPORTS THAT I DEFINITELY THINK
IS ATTAINABLE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL
TYPES OF FITNESS LEVELS.
BUT YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW HARD
YOU'RE WORKING UNTIL YOU'RE ON
THE ICE.
IT REQUIRES A LOT OF BALANCE.
>>TERRI: RIGHT.
>>KATIE: WHICH MOVES YOUR
MUSCLES AND ASKS YOUR BODY TO DO
ALL KINDS OF THINGS YOU'RE NOT
USED TO WHEN YOU'RE NOT USED TO
WALKING ON THE ICE.
LIKE THE THING I DO THAT'S
CLOSEST TO CURLING IN THE REST
OF MY FITNESS LIFE IS YOGA.
YOU KNOW, IT REQUIRES STRENGTH
AND BALANCE AND ATTENTION TO
YOUR BODY AND CONSISTENCY IN THE
WAY THAT YOU MOVE WHICH I THINK
IS UNEXPECTED FOR PEOPLE WHO
HAVEN'T DONE IT BEFORE.
>>TERRI: RIGHT.
AND STRATEGY, IT'S LIKE CHESS ON
ICE YOU SAID, PEOPLE SAY.
CHESS ON ICE.
>>KATIE: YEAH, PEOPLE LIKE THE
I THINK PEOPLE LIKE IT BECAUSE
IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE THEY'RE
EXTRA CLEVER ABOUT THEIR CURLING
GAME.
BUT IT'S TRUE YOU DO KIND OF
HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE
OTHER TEAM'S SHOTS ARE GOING TO
BE.
IS IT A TEAM THAT YOU'VE PLAYED?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR BEHAVIORS
ARE LIKE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR
SHOTS ARE LIKE? WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE HOUSE AND YOU LOOK AT THE
POSITIONS OF
THE ROCKS CAN YOU THINK AHEAD
ABOUT HOW THE NEXT STONE IS
GOING TO BEHAVE AND SO IT IS
VERY MUCH ABOUT THINKING AHEAD
AND PLANNING YOUR SHOTS IN
ADVANCE AND KNOWING THE
PERSONALITIES AND SKILLS OF WHO
YOU PLAY WITH AND AGAINST.
>>TERRI: TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS
OF BEING A CLUB.
>>KATIE: YEAH, WELL, FOR
STARTERS IT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE
SOME KIND OF CONTROL OVER THE
WAY THAT YOU FORM YOUR MISSION,
WHICH IS IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY IN
A SPORT THAT'S SO MUCH ABOUT
GROWING AND BRINGING NEW PEOPLE
IN.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO
KEEP THAT AS A FOCUS.
>>TERRI: RIGHT.
>>KATIE: ALSO, AS A CURLER IT
GIVES YOU ACCESS TO ALL KINDS OF
TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT AS A
PLAYER AND AS A TEAM THAT YOU
DON'T HAVE WHEN YOU'RE JUST KIND
OF PLAYING INDEPENDENTLY IN A
FACILITY THAT JUST HAPPENS TO
OFFER THE SPORT.
>>TERRI: RIGHT. RIGHT.
>>KATIE: SO YOU CAN COMPETE ON A
REGIONAL AND NATIONAL LEVEL IF
YOU'RE A CLUB.
AS AN INDIVIDUAL YOU CAN PURSUE
COACHING CERTIFICATIONS.
YOU CAN GO TO SKILLS CLINICS,
YOU CAN MEET AMAZING CURLERS AND
WORK WITH THEM ON YOUR GAME AND
YOU CAN GO EXPERIENCE
ENVIRONMENTS OTHER THAN THIS.
I MEAN, THIS IS MY HOME RINK.
I LOVE CURLING HERE.
BUT IT'S REALLY A FANTASTIC
LEARNING EXPERIENCE TO GO
SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH A DIFFERENT
SET OF PEOPLE, DIFFERENT SET OF
SKILLS TO KIND OF DEVELOP YOUR
GAME IN THAT WAY.
>>TERRI: RIGHT.
AND YOU TRAVEL.
SO YOU WILL SOMETIMES COMPETE
NATIONALLY.
>>KATIE: YES, SOMETIMES WHEN I'M
VERY LUCKY.
>>TERRI: AND THEN, SOME PEOPLE
JUST COME HERE TO HAVE A BEER
AND SEE HOW THEY DO.
>>KATIE: YEAH.
OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND IT'S TO ME SO WONDERFUL TO
HAVE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IN THE
SAME BUILDING IN THE SAME
LEAGUE.
YOU KNOW WE PLAY WITH AND
AGAINST THOSE PEOPLE EVERY WEEK.
AND WE LEARN THINGS FROM THEM
AND THEY LEARN THINGS FROM US
AND I MEAN THAT'S JUST, THAT'S
MY FAVORITE PART IS BEING ABLE
TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DIVERSITY
AND INTEREST AND SKILL AND JUST
SEE WHAT THE GIVE AND TAKE IS
LIKE ON THE ICE.
>>TERRI: SO HOW OFTEN DO YOU ALL
PLAY?
>>KATIE: WE PLAY EVERY WEEK ONCE
A WEEK AND WE HAVE THREE GAMES
ON THOSE NIGHTS.
AND WE PLAY TWO SEASONS A YEAR.
SO WE HAVE ONE FULL LEAGUE THAT
STARTS LATE SUMMER EARLY FALL
AND ONE FULL LEAGUE THAT STARTS
IN THE WINTER.
AT THE START OF EVERY SEASON WE
DO HAVE LEARNING TO CURL EVENTS
SO IF YOU'RE CURIOUS IT GIVES
YOU AN OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT
COMMITTING TO YOU KNOW FIFTEEN
WEEKS OF SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER
DONE BEFORE.
>>TERRI: AND SO IF PEOPLE WANT
TO GET INVOLVED WHAT DO THEY DO?
>>KATIE: MY GOSH, THE EASIEST
THING IS JUST TO COME DOWN HERE
ON A MONDAY NIGHT BECAUSE I WILL
BE FLOATING AROUND LOOKING FOR
PEOPLE TO TALK TO ABOUT CURLING.
>>TERRI: AND THEN THERE'S A
FACEBOOK PAGE.
>>KATIE: YEAH, SO WE HAVE A
FACEBOOK PAGE RIGHT NOW THAT'S
PROBABLY THE MOST ACTIVE AND
THEN IF YOU'RE EVER ON THE
DOWNTOWN MALL ON A MONDAY NIGHT
COME AND STOP IN AND HAVE A BEER
AND ASK US QUESTIONS AND TRY IT
OUT. IT'S A PRETTY FLEXIBLE
GROUP.
>>TERRI: AND WHAT IS YOUR BEST
ADVICE TO A NOVICE CURLER?
>>KATIE: MY BEST ADVICE TO A
NOVICE CURLER IS, IT'S JUST A
LEARNING ENVIRONMENT AND A FUN
ENVIRONMENT TO BE IN SO JUST
KIND OF REMEMBER THE CURIOSITY
AND THE INTEREST AND THE FUN.
>>PATRICK DECKER: I AM NOT GOOD
AT ALL NO.
BUT I HAVE FUN WHICH IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT PART.
IT'S FUN TO COME OUT WITH
FRIENDS AND CO-WORKERS ON A
MONDAY NIGHT AND JUST DO
SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND HAVE
FUN.
>>CORI CAMPBELL: WHEN YOU FIRST
START LIKE FUNNY THING IS LIKE
YOU GET, YOU'RE WORRIED YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO MAKE THE ROCK ALL
THE WAY DOWN THE SHEET AND THEN
LIKE AFTER LIKE A FEW TIMES
YOU'RE LIKE I HAVE TOO MUCH
POWER I HAVE TOO MUCH POWER.
LIKE YOU CAN'T STOP IT SO, BUT
NO, I'M NOT LOSING SLEEP OVER IT
YET.
>>KARA THORNTON: YOU KNOW PEOPLE
SEE THIS IN THE OLYMPICS AND
THEY'RE LIKE, OH WHO DOES THAT?
BUT WE DO AND IT'S FUN.
LIKE I TELL PEOPLE THAT I DO
THIS AND I GET SUCH A FUN
REACTION AND I GET TO TALK ABOUT
THIS SPORT AND YOU KNOW IT'S
JUST SOMETHING UNIQUE TO BE OUT
HERE THAT'S GREAT THAT
CHARLOTTESVILLE HAS FOR US.
>>STUDENT TEACHER: YOU'RE KIND
OF GETTING TO SORT OF THE
ESSENCE OF THESE TYPES OF
NEGOTIATIONS WHICH IS THAT
YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO BEND THE
GUY OVER A BARREL.
YOU'RE TRYING TO GET HIM A GOOD
DEAL YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A GOOD
DEAL FOR YOURSELF AND THEN
YOU'LL BOTH DO BETTER IN THE
FUTURE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS
RELATIONSHIP.
>>LESLIE CHALIGOJ: IT WAS JUST
AWESOME TO SEE THAT THESE PEOPLE
CARE ENOUGH ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE
TO GIVE UP THEIR TIME TO TEACH
WOMEN THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN
SOCIETY HAD WRITTEN OFF.
>>GERARD QUARLES: I'VE SPENT A
LOT OF MY LIFE IN PLACES LIKE
THIS AND BECAUSE OF MY RECORD
AND THE GAPS IN MY JOB HISTORY
I'VE COME TO BELIEVE THAT THE
ONLY WAY THAT I'M GOING TO
ACHIEVE ANY MEANINGFUL LEVEL OF
SUCCESS IS TO OPEN MY OWN
BUSINESS.
>>TERRI ALLARD: WHAT STARTED AS
A LETTER REQUESTING ADVICE ABOUT
A BUSINESS PLAN IS NOW A
SUCCESSFUL UVA PROGRAM OFFERED
TO INCARCERATED BUT SOON TO BE
RELEASED MEN AND WOMEN IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
JOIN US AS WE VISIT WITH GREG
AND TIERNEY FAIRCHILD TO LEARN
ABOUT THE DARDEN PRISONER
RE-ENTRY EDUCATION PROGRAM.
COME ON!
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: YOU'RE
REALIZING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
BE IN THE ROOM WITH PEOPLE WHO
HAVE DONE THE RANGE OF THINGS
YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN ON THE NEWS.
THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUALS THAT
HAVE GANG AFFILIATIONS AND THERE
ARE NO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SEX
OFFENDERS.
BUT WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE THAT ARE
VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND INCLUDING
MURDER.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: WE ALSO
LAST YEAR HAD A STUDENT WHO WAS
REMOVED FROM THE PROGRAM IN PART
BECAUSE HE WAS NOT BEING
RESPECTFUL OF THE EDUCATION
COORDINATION PEOPLE.
>>TERRI ALLARD: SO GREG, WHAT
INSPIRED YOU TO START THE
PROGRAM?
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: IT ALL STARTED
WITH A LETTER WE GOT FROM A MAN
AT THE DARDEN SCHOOL WHO WAS
MAKING A TRANSITION AND HE KNEW
THAT HE WAS UPCOMING AND HE
REALLY WANTED AN
OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN EDUCATION
THAT WOULD HELP HIM FIND A WAY
THAT HE COULD CREATE AN ENTITY
THAT WOULD HIRE SOMEONE LIKE
HIMSELF.
AND THE IDEA WAS SIMPLE.
WE WOULD BEGIN TO DO EDUCATION
WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE CURRENTLY
INCARCERATED.
RETURNING CITIZENS.
AND WE WOULD TALK TO THEM ABOUT
WAYS THAT THEY COULD TAKE THEIR
SKILLS INTO CREATING A FIRM THAT
WOULD YES EMPLOY THEM.
SO ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
>>TERRI ALLARD: TALK ABOUT THE
PROGRAM THAT IT HAS BECOME.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: WELL, I
WOULD SAY THAT I CAME ON ABOUT A
YEAR IN AFTER HEARING YOU KNOW
HIS STORIES ABOUT THESE
INCREDIBLE STUDENTS AND WHAT
THEY WERE DISCUSSING IN CLASS.
AND YOU KNOW WE'RE BOTH
GRADUATES OF THE DARDEN SCHOOL
AND THE SOCRATIC METHOD IS
SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY ENJOY,
THAT CASE METHOD WHERE YOU GET A
PROBLEM THAT'S BASED IN A
NARRATIVE WITH SOMEBODY REAL
PROBLEM.
AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE NOT
JUST TEACHING ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
AND NOW WE HAVE ADDED FINANCIAL
CAPABILITY AND A FOUNDATIONS IN
BUSINESS COURSE.
SO WE HAVE THREE COURSES FOR OUR
ENTREPRENEURIAL RE-ENTRY
PROGRAM.
>>TERRI ALLARD: AND THESE ARE
ALL TAKING PLACE IN TWO
DIFFERENT PRISONS IN THE AREA.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: YES.
>>TERRI ALLARD: DILLWYN
CORRECTIONAL CENTER AND THE
FLUVANNA WOMEN'S CORRECTIONAL
CENTER?
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: THAT'S
CORRECT.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: THAT'S
CORRECT.
>>TERRI ALLARD: SO LET'S BACK
UP.
IF AN INMATE WANTS TO
PARTICIPATE, HOW DOES THAT
HAPPEN?
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: SO THEY'D HAVE
TO BE WITHIN THREE YEARS, 36
MONTHS OF BEING RELEASED BECAUSE
THAT'S WHEN THIS TYPE OF
CONTENT, THIS TYPE OF
INFORMATION IS MOST USEFUL.
THEY MIGHT HAVE TAKEN A
CERTIFICATE IN COSMETOLOGY. THEY
MIGHT BE LEARNING HOW TO DO AUTO
REPAIR.
THEY MIGHT LEARN WELDING.
ALL OF THESE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT
THEM, LEND THEMSELVES TO RUNNING
YOUR OWN SMALL BUSINESS.
ADDITIONALLY WE LOOK FOR THINGS
LIKE WHETHER THEY'VE COMPLETED
AT LEAST AT GED.
>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: AND WE LOOK
FOR THINGS LIKE WHETHER THEY
HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF FACILITY
FOR MATH.
SO WHAT WE WANT IS IF YOU CAN
KIND OF DO ALGEBRA WE CAN KIND
OF WORK WITH YOU.
>>KEITH SHUPE: I NEVER SEEN
MYSELF IN THIS KIND OF REALM AND
NOW THAT I'M HERE YOU KNOW I
EXCELLED IN MATH BUT I NEVER
MASTERED THE MINDSET OF HOW TO
FIGURE UP ACCUMULATED INTEREST.
AND TAKING THIS COURSE HERE HAS
GIVEN ME THAT KNOWLEDGE OF HOW
TO FIGURE UP ACCUMULATED
INTEREST WHICH IS A VERY
BENEFICIAL TOOL TO KNOW HOW TO
DO WHEN YOU'RE GENERATING YOUR
OWN BUSINESS.
>>GERARD QUARLES: I DIDN'T
REALLY KNOW HOW TO TRANSITION
FROM AN IDEA TO MAKE THE PLAN
FUNCTION, TO MAKE THE PLAN
BREATHE.
NEVER THOUGHT, I FIGURED YOU
KNOW, OKAY IF I'M SELLING IT FOR
MORE THAN I'M BUYING IT THEN I
GOTTA BE MAKING MONEY, RIGHT?
BUT THEN THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF
OTHER THINGS THAT I HADN'T
CONSIDERED BEFORE.
AND SO WITH THESE TOOLS IN
ADDITION TO WHAT I ALREADY HAD
I'M REALLY CONFIDENT AND REALLY
EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S GETTING
READY TO HAPPEN WHEN I GO HOME
IN TWO YEARS.
>>STUDENT TEACHER: SO HAVE YOU
GUYS COME TO AN AGREEMENT OR ARE
YOU STILL WORKING?
>>TERRI ALLARD: WHEN THE PROGRAM
STARTED YOU WERE IN THERE, YOU
WERE TEACHING, BUT NOW DARDEN
STUDENTS ARE TEACHING.
TALK ABOUT THAT TRANSITION.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: WELL NOW
THAT WE HAVE SO MANY STUDENTS WE
HAVE THEM IN SELF-MANAGED TEAMS
OF 7.
BUT THEY GO IN AND THEY PREPARE.
THEY MANAGE THE TEACHING
SCHEDULE.
THEY GET THEIR TRAINING. THEY
GET CLEARANCE TO GO IN.
THEY WORK TOGETHER THROUGHOUT
THE YEAR THEY GRADE AND THEY ARE
THE FACE OF OUR PROGRAM AND WE
REALLY DIDN'T REALIZE, TERRI,
WHAT HAS BEEN A REALLY IMPORTANT
SECONDARY BENEFIT IS NOT ONLY
ARE WE ACTUALLY HELPING THESE
PEOPLE WHO ARE RETURNING
CITIZENS •
>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: AND WE'RE
HELPING THEM NOT JUST IN
ENTREPRENEURSHIP BUT ALSO JUST
WITH THEIR CONFIDENCE OF GETTING
JOBS AND GETTING EMPLOYMENT BUT
WE'RE ALSO AFFECTING THE MINDS
AND LIVES OF THESE MBA STUDENTS
WHO ARE OUR FUTURE BUSINESS
LEADERS.
>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: AND WHEN
THEY THINK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING
ON WITH THIS ISSUE OF MASS
INCARCERATION AND HOW ARE WE
UNDEREMPLOYING POTENTIAL PEOPLE
WHO COULD BE INCREDIBLE
CONTRIBUTORS TO SOCIETY.
>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.
>> GREG FAIRCHILD: BUT ANOTHER
ASPECT OF WHAT TIERNEY SAID IS,
THEY'RE GONNA LEAD PEOPLE IN
THEIR ORGANIZATIONS.
YOUR ABILITY TO EXPLAIN A
COMPLICATED CONCEPT TO SOMEONE
WHO HAS NEVER LEARNED IT IS A
BIG PART OF HOW YOU SUCCEED IN
BUSINESS.
>>STUDENT TEACHER: SO WOULD YOU
WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH HIM
AGAIN?
>>INMATE: LAUGHTER.
I PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO BUSINESS
WITH HIM.
I PROBABLY WOULD TELL MY BOSS TO
HANDLE THIS CONTRACT NEXT TIME
BUT IF HE HAS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE
HE WANTED TO REPRESENT HIM, I
MIGHT GIVE IT A SHOT.
>>STUDENT TEACHER: RICHARD, WHAT
DO YOU THINK?
>>INMATE 2: I WOULD DO BUSINESS
WITH HIM AGAIN •
>>STUDENT TEACHER: I BET YOU
WOULD.
>>ALFONSO CARNEY: WITH MY UNCLE
WHO'S BEEN IN AND OUT OF JAIL
SINCE THE LATE NINETIES, HAD HE
HAD SOME SKILLS THAT COULD HAVE
HELPED HIM GET A JOB WHEN HE GOT
OUT, START HIS OWN BUSINESS,
SEEM MORE PROFESSIONAL EVEN,
LIKE JUST LITTLE THINGS I THINK
WOULD HAVE GONE A LONG WAY TO
HELP HIM OUT.
>>KATIE WHITE O'RIORDAN: GROWING
UP MY GRANDMA ALWAYS TOLD ME, TO
WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS
EXPECTED AND SO FOR ME I THINK
THE CARDS ARE STACKED AGAINST A
LOT OF PEOPLE AND SO THIS IS MY
WAY OF TRYING TO UNDO THAT A
LITTLE BIT.
>>STUDENT TEACHER: HE'S THE
WHAT?
>>INMATE: GM
>>STUDENT TEACHER: WHAT'S THAT?
>>INMATE: GENERAL MANAGER.
>>STUDENT TEACHER: WHAT'S THE
GENERAL MANAGER DO?
>>INMATE: DAILY OPERATIONS.
>>STUDENT TEACHER: OKAY SO NOW
THAT WE HAVE KIND OF A FRAMEWORK
OF WHAT THIS COMPANY IS ABOUT
SOMEBODY WALK ME THROUGH WHAT
EXACTLY IS GOING ON.
>>TERRI ALLARD: TALK ABOUT THE
BENEFITS OF THIS PROGRAM TO THE
PRISONERS.
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: I GOT A LETTER
AFTER THE FIRST YEAR ABOUT ONE
OF THE MEN WE WERE WORKING WITH
AND HE HAD A COUNSELOR AND THE
COUNSELOR WROTE ME A LETTER AND
SAID, ARCHIE IS DREAMING AGAIN.
AND IT SAID THAT THE EXPERIENCE
IN THE CLASS HAD CHANGED HIS
OUTLOOK FROM ONE WHERE LIFE IS
DEFINED FOR ME TO ONE WHERE I
CAN HAVE A ROLE IN DEFINING MY
LIFE.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: WE HAD A
WOMAN YOU KNOW GO THROUGH ALL
THREE OF OUR PROGRAMS.
SHE HAD A VERY SMART BUSINESS
PLAN BUT SHE WASN'T VERY GOOD
AND CONFIDENT IN HER
PRESENTATION.
WELL BY THE SECOND AND THEN THE
THIRD CLASS SHE WAS SHE WOULD
COME BACK IN AND TELL THE OTHER
STUDENTS HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO
DO, HERE'S WHAT I LEARNED AND
HERE'S HOW I HAVE CHANGED MY
PRESENCE AND MY OUTLOOK BECAUSE
I AM NOW MORE CONFIDENT IN MY
ABILITY TO GO BACK TO MY
COMMUNITY AND TO BE ABLE TO DO
NOT ONLY THIS BUSINESS IF I
CHOOSE TO BUT ANY JOB THAT I'M
GIVEN.
>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.
AND DURING THE PROGRAM THEY
OBVIOUSLY COME UP WITH THE PLAN.
THEY HAVE AN IDEA FOR A BUSINESS
AND THEY WORK THAT THROUGH. WHAT
HAPPENS AT THE END?
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: THE PERSON
SAYS HEY I COMPLETED THE PROGRAM
IN COSMETOLOGY, I COMPLETED THE
PROGRAM IN CARPENTRY, BUT I ALSO
HAVE THE MAJOR BUSINESS SCHOOL
CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION AND
THESE TWO THINGS WE THINK SAY
SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO AN
EMPLOYER WHO MIGHT WONDER ABOUT
WHETHER THE PERSON HAS REALLY
MADE THE CHANGE THEY CLAIM.
>>LESLIE CHALIGOJ: AT FIRST I
DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN UP FOR THE
DARDEN PROGRAM AND I'M SO SO
GLAD I DID.
WHAT THEY GIVE TO EVERYBODY THEY
WORK WITH IS THEIR ALL.
THERE'S NO CORNERS CUT AND WHAT
THEY TAUGHT ME I CAN'T EVEN
BEGIN TO PUT A VALUE ON THAT.
>>GERARD QUARLES: YOU'RE GETTING
TAUGHT BY THESE MBA STUDENTS BUT
YOU'RE ALSO LEARNING FROM
EVERYBODY'S EXPERIENCE IN THE
ROOM.
THE CASE STUDIES THEY'RE -- THEY
HELP ME TAKE MY COMMON SENSE AND
THEN THEY GIVE BUSINESS
PRINCIPALS TO IT AND THEN IT'S
LIKE, OK NOW I CAN COMMUNICATE
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN
BUSINESS ABOUT THINGS THAT I
FOUND OUT I
ALREADY KNEW IN SOME CASES AND I
THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE A PART OF
IT.
>>STUDENT TEACHER: SO EXPLAIN TO
DEAL AND WHY YOU THINK IT WAS
GOOD.
>>INMATE: I FIGURED I WOULD
LOWER THE PRICE IN ORDER TO KEEP
HIM LOCKED IN FOR THE NEXT THREE
YEARS.
THEN WE CAN NEGOTIATE ANOTHER
DEAL.
>>TERRI ALLARD: HOW MANY OF THE
GRADUATES WHO ARE BACK IN THE
COMMUNITY ARE RUNNING BUSINESSES
OR DO YOU HAVE A TRACK RECORD
FOR THAT?
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: FIRST OF
ALL, YES OUR GOAL IS THAT PEOPLE
WILL HAVE EITHER A BUSINESS OR A
JOB. A NUMBER OF OUR, WE KNOW
ANECDOTALLY THAT A NUMBER OF OUR
STUDENTS LEAVE AND THEY GO BACK
TO CONTINUING EDUCATION.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOTTEN
INTO VCU, INTO WILLIAM AND MARY,
TO OTHER SCHOOLS, ONE AT ODU.
SO WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND
FINISHING THAT PART OF THEIR
EDUCATION.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED
US FOR REFERENCE LETTERS AND WE
DO KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR, SOME
OF THE RETURNING CITIZENS THAT
WE TAUGHT HAVE STARTED
BUSINESSES.
IN FACT ONE GENTLEMAN IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE JUST GOT IN
TOUCH WITH US AND HE'S RUNNING A
CONTRACTING BUSINESS.
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: FROM WHAT WE
KNOW NOW THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN
TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE RECIDIVATED
AND NEITHER OF THOSE WAS FOR AN
ADDITIONAL INFRACTION.
>>TERRI ALLARD: AND THIS IS OUT
OF ALMOST 300 STUDENTS.
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: THAT'S
CORRECT.
SO THE QUESTION NOW IS HOW CAN
WE CONTINUE TO BE EXPERTS AT
PROVIDING EDUCATION AND WHERE
CAN WE PROVIDE IT?
CAN WE PROVIDE IT IN A JUVENILE
FACILITY?
CAN WE PROVIDE IT IN A FEDERAL
FACILITY OR EVEN IN OTHER
STATES, IN OTHER UNIVERSITIES.
>>KEITH SHUPE: WHETHER I'M
INVOLVED IN THE DARDEN PROGRAM
OR JUST IN EDUCATION IN ANY
FACET IT WILL KEEP ME GROUNDED,
YOU KNOW KEEP ME FOCUSED ON
CONCENTRATING ON THE THINGS THAT
ARE BENEFICIAL TO LIFE AS
OPPOSED TO THE THINGS THAT JUST
BRING PLEASURE TO LIFE, LIKE
DRINKING.
>>GERARD QUARLES: I WANT TO RUN
FOOD TRUCK, ACTUALLY MAYBE THREE
OR FOUR FOOD TRUCKS.
PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME, MY FRIENDS
WHEN I COOK FOR THEM THEY TELL
ME I SHOULD BE SELLING THIS
STUFF SO IT WAS A FIT FOR ME.
>>LESLIE CHALIGOJ: DARDEN HELPED
ME TO BROADEN MY MIND.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY
DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND YOU HAVE
TO LEARN HOW TO SPEAK IN FROM OF
PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO DEFEND
YOUR ANSWERS WITHOUT GETTING
ANGRY.
I'M VERY BLESSED.
AND THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT
GREG AND TIERNEY, I BELIEVE
THERE ARE ANGELS WALKING THIS
EARTH AND THEY ARE TWO OF THEM.
>>GREG FAIRCHILD: SO YOU'LL DO
THE WHOLE SPLIT THE ROOM BRING
THEM TOGETHER MAKE THEM
NEGOTIATE AND THEN DEBRIEF.
>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: THERE'A AN
APPENDIX IN THE BACK AND KIM HAS
GIVEN NOTES ON HOW TO DO THE
TYPES OF PROBLEMS AND TYPES OF
CONCEPTS WE'RE EMPHASIZING AND
SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THAT AND THEY
KNOW ABOUT THE FORMULA SHEET AND
THEY CAN USE THEIR CALCULATORS
ON TESTS.
THE ONLY TIME PEOPLE CAN'T WORK
TOGETHER IS WHEN THEY'RE TAKING
A TEST.
OKAY? THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY
THING.
>>TERRI ALLARD: THAT'S IT FOR
THIS WEEK.
FOR WHTJ I'M TERRI ALLARD.
JOIN US NEXT TIME ON
CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT.
>>ANNOUNCER: THIS PRESENTATION
WAS MADE POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART
TO THE PATRONS OF
“CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT ”
COMMITTED TO EXPLORING THE
PEOPLE, PLACES AND QUALITY OF
LIFE THAT UNIQUELY DEFINE
CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS
SURROUNDINGS.
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