>>ANNOUNCER: THIS PRESENTATION

WAS MADE POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART

TO THE PATRONS OF

“CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT ”

COMMITTED TO EXPLORING THE

PEOPLE, PLACES AND QUALITY OF

LIFE THAT UNIQUELY DEFINE

CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS

SURROUNDINGS.

>> KATIE WHITE O'RIORDAN: I'VE

VISITED PSYCH WARDS WHICH IS

SCARY ON ITS OWN BUT I'VE NEVER

WALKED INTO A PRISON BEFORE SO I

DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO

EXPECT.

>>TERRI ALLARD: FOR WHTJ I'M

TERRI ALLARD AND THIS IS

CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT.

>>TERRI: TODAY WE'RE GOING TO

MEET UP WITH A GROUP OF MEN AND

WOMEN WHO GATHER ON A WEEKLY

BASIS TO SOCIALIZE AND COMPETE

IN A SPORT THAT MIGHT LOOK EASY

BUT IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS

CHESS ON ICE. JOIN US AS WE

VISIT THE BLUE RIDGE CURLING

CLUB. COME ON!

>> JAMES ROGOL: CURLING IS THE

STAPLE OF MY MONDAYS. IT'S

SOMETHING THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO

EVERY WEEK.

I GET TO SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR

FACES AND I GET TO GO WITH MY

FRIENDS IN A NICE RELAXED

ATMOSPHERE AND HAVE A LITTLE

FRIENDLY COMPETITION.

>>KATIE MCCARTNEY: IT'S MY

FAVORITE SPORT.

CURLING IS A SPORT PLAYED ON THE

ICE. SOME PEOPLE COMPARE IT TO

SHUFFLE BOARD. WE THROW BIG 42

POUND GRANITE ROCKS ACROSS THE

ICE BACK AND FORTH AT A TARGET.

IT'S BEEN AN OLYMPIC SPORT

SINCE, OH GOSH, FOR THE LAST

THREE WINTER OLYMPICS I THINK.

AND WE HAVE A NEW CLUB IN

CHARLOTTESVILLE AND IT'S I MEAN

FOR US A LOT OF FUN.

IT GOES ALL THE WHOLE RANGE OF

CASUAL BEER LEAGUE TO SUPER

COMPETITIVE OLYMPIC LEVEL

ATHLETES.

>>TERRI: SO THE POINT OF THE

GAME IS --

>>KATIE: SO THE POINT OF THE

GAME IS TO SCORE MORE POINTS

THAN YOUR OPPONENT BY HAVING

MORE OF YOUR TEAM'S STONES IN

THE CENTER OF THE HOUSE, WHICH

IS SORT OF OUR TARGET ON THE

ICE.

>>TERRI: OKAY.

>>KATIE: THAN THE OTHER TEAM. SO

YOU SCORE MORE POINTS BASED ON

HOW MANY ROCKS YOU HAVE ON THAT

TARGET.

>>TERRI: OKAY, SO FIRST OF ALL

LET'S START WITH YOU HAVE TO

PREPARE THE ICE.

TALK ABOUT THE SET UP BEFORE

ANYONE CAN CURL.

>>KATIE: YEAH. RIGHT SO. YES I

>> THERE FACILITIES PREPARED FOR

CURLING SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO

SHARE.

WE GO ON RIGHT AFTER KIDS

HOCKEY, WE HAVE TO DO SOME WORK

BEFORE WE ARE READY TO GET ON

THE ICE, THEY RESURFACE AND THAT

GETS RID OF THE SURFACE

SCRATCHES AND STUFF THAT ARE

LEFT BY THE PREVIOUS SPORT.

THEN WE PEBBLE, WHICH IS,

BASICALLY, A FINE WATER SPRAY

THAT WE SPRAY ACROSS THE ICE

SURFACE.

THOSE LITTLE WATER DROPLETS

FORM, THEY FREEZE IN LITTLE

BEADS ON THE SURFACE OF THE ICE

WHICH BASICALLY BREAKS THE

SURFACE TENSION BETWEEN THE

ROCKS THAT WE ARE THROWING AND

THE SURFACE OF THE ICE.

SO IT GIVES YOU MORE CONTROL

OVER YOUR SHOTS, YOU CAN DO MORE

PREDICTSABLE SHOTS AND IT LET'S

YOUR ROCKS GO THAT WHOLE HUNDRED

AND SOME FEET DOWN TO THE OTHER

SIDE.

>>KATIE: SO IT GIVES YOU SOME

MORE CONTROL OVER YOUR SHOTS.

GIVES YOU A MORE PREDICTABLE

SHOT AND IT LETS YOUR ROCKS GO

THAT WHOLE HUNDRED AND SOME FEET

DOWN TO THE OTHER SIDE. WE MOUNT

HACKS INTO THE ICE WHICH ALLOW

US TO PUSH OFF AND GET THAT NICE

LONG GLIDE THAT THOSE BEAUTIFUL

ATHLETES ON TV HAVE.

>>TERRI: RIGHT, IT'S LIKE A

RUNNER'S BLOCK ALMOST, RIGHT?

>>KATIE: YEAH. RIGHT. EXACTLY.

AND YOU KNOW WE NEED ALL OF OUR

ROCKS.

WE BRING OUT ALL OF OUR ROCKS

AND LIKE MOST CLUBS IN THE

STATES WE PROVIDE ALL THE

EQUIPMENT FOR THE PLAYERS. SO WE

BRING ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON THE

ICE AND THEN IT'S READY TO GO.

>> CORI CAMPBELL: I CURL BECAUSE

IT LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING FUN TO

DO ON MONDAYS.

ME AND MY BOYFRIEND GOT ON THE

TEAM AND WE WERE RANDOMLY GIVEN

TWO OTHER PEOPLE. WE HAVE A LOT

OF FUN.

THEY'RE GOOD.

THEY DID IT LAST SEASON SO

THEY'RE HELPING US OUT.

WE'RE LEARNING FROM THAT AND

ALSO JUST STANDING UP ON ICE IS

IMPRESSIVE.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE A LIFE

SKILL.

>>JAMES ROGOL: DON'T BE AFRAID.

IT'S NOT BY NO MEANS A NORMAL

MOTION UNLESS YOU'RE DOING

LUNGES ON YOUR KITCHEN FLOOR IN

SOCKS.

SO JUST COME OUT AND GIVE YOUR

ALL AND KIND OF KEEP AN OPEN

MIND AND BE WILLING TO TRY NEW

THINGS.

THAT'S REALLY ALL WE CAN ASK.

>> KARA THORNTON: I LIKE TO

THROW. YOU KNOW IT'S JUST A

LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER PRESSURE

SPOT I GUESS BUT IT'S ALWAYS FUN

TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO SCORE SOME

POINTS AND CONTRIBUTE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN REALLY

CONTROL ON MY OWN VS. THE

SWEEPING POSITION WHICH IS

HELPING OUT A TEAMMATE WHICH IS

GREAT TOO BUT IT'S YOU'RE ONE

OFFENSIVE SPOT TO GET TO THROW

SO I REALLY LIKE THAT SPOT THE

BEST.

>>TERRI: SO EXPLAIN THE

POSITIONS, LIKE WHAT DOES

EVERYBODY DO TO ACHIEVE THEIR

GOAL?

>>KATIE: SO YOU HAVE THE LEAD, A

SECOND, A VICE SKIP AND YOUR

SKIP AND YOU THROW IN THAT ORDER

SO FIRST, SECOND, THIRD AND

FOURTH.

YOUR LEAD GENERALLY SPEAKING IS

RESPONSIBLE FOR GUARD SHOTS. SO

YOU LIKE A LEAD THAT HAS A LOT

OF CONTROL OVER HOW FAST THEY

CAN CONTROL THEIR ROCK AND

SPECIFIC PLACEMENT TO SORT OF

PROTECT THE HOUSE FROM YOUR

OPPONENT'S ROCK.

>>TERRI: OKAY.

>>KATIE: A LOT OF TIMES YOUR

SECOND IS CALLED ON TO DO TAKE

OUT SHOTS.

>>TERRI: OH, OKAY.

>>KATIE: SO YOUR SECOND IS

SOMEONE WHO HAS TO HAVE A NICE

STRONG, CONSISTENT WEIGHT, WHO

CAN KIND OF CLEAR THINGS OUT OF

THE WAY FOR YOU AND ALSO YOUR

LEAD AND SECOND HAVE TO BE

REALLY STRONG SWEEPERS SO YOU'RE

RELYING ON YOUR FRONT END TO BE

YOUR SWEEPING MUSCLE TOO.

>>TERRI: OKAY.

>>KATIE: AND THEN YOUR BACK END,

YOUR VICE AND YOUR SKIP ARE SORT

OF MORE YOUR STRATEGY MINDS.

THEY'RE WATCHING THE ICE THEY'RE

SEEING HOW IT GOES SORT OF

PLANNING A COUPLE OF SHOTS

AHEAD.

YOUR VICE IS LIKE YOUR JACK OF

ALL TRADES. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE

TO SET WHATEVER UP THAT YOU NEED

HOPING THAT IT LASTS FOR THE

NEXT COUPLE OF SHOTS.

>>TERRI: RIGHT.

>>KATIE: IDEALLY I PLAY SKIP ON

MY TEAM HERE.

I LIKE TO HAVE TO DO NOTHING.

SO I'M HOPING EVERYBODY TAKES

CARE OF IT BEFORE I GET THERE.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING YOUR SKIP

IS USUALLY MORE EXPERIENCED,

MORE OF A STRATEGIC MIND, AND

MORE OF A FINESSE SHOT.

SO YOU DON'T, I AS A SKIP DON'T

LIKE TO HAVE TO COME INTO A BIG

MESS OF ROCKS IN THE HOUSE.

I LIKE TO SORT OF KNOW WHAT THE

PLAN IS.

>>TERRI: I LIKE THAT, ROCKS IN

THE HOUSE.

>>KATIE: YOU COUNT ON EVERYBODY

ELSE TO SET IT UP FOR YOU.

>>TERRI: THAT'S GREAT, OKAY.

>>KATIE: YEAH.

>>TERRI: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE

CLUB.

WHO, WHO PARTICIPATES? THIS IS A

WEEKLY, DURING THE SEASON THIS

IS A WEEKLY CLUB.

WHO COMES IN AND PLAYS?

>>KATIE: OH MY GOSH, ALL KINDS

OF PEOPLE.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I

LIKE MOST ABOUT CURLING IS HOW

DIVERSE IT IS.

AND IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA

WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF

NATURAL CURLING BECAUSE WE'RE A

WARMER CLIMATE, IT'S MOSTLY

PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN IT

SOMEWHERE, WHETHER IN THE

OLYMPICS OR YOU KNOW THEY'VE

HEARD ABOUT IT AND THEIR

CURIOUS, BUT I MEAN IT'S, IT'S

AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY ALL

KINDS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE

>>TERRI: AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO

HAVE EXPERIENCE.

>>KATIE: NO, NO.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE

THINGS ABOUT CURLING IS HOW

WELCOMING THE SPORT IS TO PEOPLE

WHO ARE NEW.

THE BEST CURLERS THAT I HAVE

PLAYED WITH WHO JUST OUT MATCH

ME IN SKILL A HUNDRED TIMES ARE

THE MOST WELCOMING AND

ENCOURAGING PEOPLE THAT I'VE

EVER GOTTEN TO MEET AND PLAY

WITH.

SO A LOT OF WHAT UNDERPINS THE

SPORT IN ITS PHILOSOPHY IS

GROWING AND HELPING THOSE PEOPLE

LEARN AND HELPING THEM FIND A

PLACE THAT'S COMFORTABLE FOR

THEM TO KIND OF TRY IT OUT AND

PRACTICE AND THE FELLOWSHIP OF

THAT IS REALLY

IMPORTANT TO THE SPORT IN

GENERAL, BUT TO US AS A CLUB

SPECIFICALLY TOO.

>>DENNIS BEBEL: IT'S A GOOD TIME

TO COME OUT AND GET WITH A GROUP

OF PEOPLE EVERY WEEK.

I'M AN OLDER PERSON AND TO BE

WITH A BUNCH OF VERY YOUNG

PEOPLE JUST PLAYING THIS SPORT

IT KIND OF, I LOOK FORWARD TO

IT.

I ALMOST LOOK AT THEM AS PART OF

MY FAMILY.

>>PATRICK DECKER: WELL IT ALL

STARTED WITH THE NORWEGIAN

CURLING TEAM IN THE OLYMPICS.

WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED SOME KIND

OF PANTS TO GO ALONG WITH IT AND

FROM THE PANTS CAME THE SHOES

AND IT'S JUST SILLY.

WE LIKE TO HAVE FUN.

YOU CAN'T FIND THESE CLOTHES

ANYWHERE IN TOWN.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM ORDERED

BUT FORTUNATELY MY TEAM IS VERY

DEDICATED TO THE SPORT SO WE ALL

KIND OF PITCH IN TOGETHER AND

DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO WEAR

AHEAD OF TIME.

>>TERRI: THE OTHER THING I THINK

ABOUT CURLING IS THAT I THINK

PEOPLE THINK IT LOOKS EASIER

THAN IT IS.

I MEAN I THINK YOU CAN, IT'S A

TRICKY SPORT BUT I THINK IT

LOOKS EASY UNTIL YOU GET OUT

THERE AND TRY IT.

>>KATIE: YEAH.

IT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE

SPORTS THAT I DEFINITELY THINK

IS ATTAINABLE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL

TYPES OF FITNESS LEVELS.

BUT YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW HARD

YOU'RE WORKING UNTIL YOU'RE ON

THE ICE.

IT REQUIRES A LOT OF BALANCE.

>>TERRI: RIGHT.

>>KATIE: WHICH MOVES YOUR

MUSCLES AND ASKS YOUR BODY TO DO

ALL KINDS OF THINGS YOU'RE NOT

USED TO WHEN YOU'RE NOT USED TO

WALKING ON THE ICE.

LIKE THE THING I DO THAT'S

CLOSEST TO CURLING IN THE REST

OF MY FITNESS LIFE IS YOGA.

YOU KNOW, IT REQUIRES STRENGTH

AND BALANCE AND ATTENTION TO

YOUR BODY AND CONSISTENCY IN THE

WAY THAT YOU MOVE WHICH I THINK

IS UNEXPECTED FOR PEOPLE WHO

HAVEN'T DONE IT BEFORE.

>>TERRI: RIGHT.

AND STRATEGY, IT'S LIKE CHESS ON

ICE YOU SAID, PEOPLE SAY.

CHESS ON ICE.

>>KATIE: YEAH, PEOPLE LIKE THE

I THINK PEOPLE LIKE IT BECAUSE

IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE THEY'RE

EXTRA CLEVER ABOUT THEIR CURLING

GAME.

BUT IT'S TRUE YOU DO KIND OF

HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE

OTHER TEAM'S SHOTS ARE GOING TO

BE.

IS IT A TEAM THAT YOU'VE PLAYED?

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR BEHAVIORS

ARE LIKE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR

SHOTS ARE LIKE? WHEN YOU LOOK AT

THE HOUSE AND YOU LOOK AT THE

POSITIONS OF

THE ROCKS CAN YOU THINK AHEAD

ABOUT HOW THE NEXT STONE IS

GOING TO BEHAVE AND SO IT IS

VERY MUCH ABOUT THINKING AHEAD

AND PLANNING YOUR SHOTS IN

ADVANCE AND KNOWING THE

PERSONALITIES AND SKILLS OF WHO

YOU PLAY WITH AND AGAINST.

>>TERRI: TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS

OF BEING A CLUB.

>>KATIE: YEAH, WELL, FOR

STARTERS IT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE

SOME KIND OF CONTROL OVER THE

WAY THAT YOU FORM YOUR MISSION,

WHICH IS IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY IN

A SPORT THAT'S SO MUCH ABOUT

GROWING AND BRINGING NEW PEOPLE

IN.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO

KEEP THAT AS A FOCUS.

>>TERRI: RIGHT.

>>KATIE: ALSO, AS A CURLER IT

GIVES YOU ACCESS TO ALL KINDS OF

TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT AS A

PLAYER AND AS A TEAM THAT YOU

DON'T HAVE WHEN YOU'RE JUST KIND

OF PLAYING INDEPENDENTLY IN A

FACILITY THAT JUST HAPPENS TO

OFFER THE SPORT.

>>TERRI: RIGHT. RIGHT.

>>KATIE: SO YOU CAN COMPETE ON A

REGIONAL AND NATIONAL LEVEL IF

YOU'RE A CLUB.

AS AN INDIVIDUAL YOU CAN PURSUE

COACHING CERTIFICATIONS.

YOU CAN GO TO SKILLS CLINICS,

YOU CAN MEET AMAZING CURLERS AND

WORK WITH THEM ON YOUR GAME AND

YOU CAN GO EXPERIENCE

ENVIRONMENTS OTHER THAN THIS.

I MEAN, THIS IS MY HOME RINK.

I LOVE CURLING HERE.

BUT IT'S REALLY A FANTASTIC

LEARNING EXPERIENCE TO GO

SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH A DIFFERENT

SET OF PEOPLE, DIFFERENT SET OF

SKILLS TO KIND OF DEVELOP YOUR

GAME IN THAT WAY.

>>TERRI: RIGHT.

AND YOU TRAVEL.

SO YOU WILL SOMETIMES COMPETE

NATIONALLY.

>>KATIE: YES, SOMETIMES WHEN I'M

VERY LUCKY.

>>TERRI: AND THEN, SOME PEOPLE

JUST COME HERE TO HAVE A BEER

AND SEE HOW THEY DO.

>>KATIE: YEAH.

OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND IT'S TO ME SO WONDERFUL TO

HAVE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IN THE

SAME BUILDING IN THE SAME

LEAGUE.

YOU KNOW WE PLAY WITH AND

AGAINST THOSE PEOPLE EVERY WEEK.

AND WE LEARN THINGS FROM THEM

AND THEY LEARN THINGS FROM US

AND I MEAN THAT'S JUST, THAT'S

MY FAVORITE PART IS BEING ABLE

TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DIVERSITY

AND INTEREST AND SKILL AND JUST

SEE WHAT THE GIVE AND TAKE IS

LIKE ON THE ICE.

>>TERRI: SO HOW OFTEN DO YOU ALL

PLAY?

>>KATIE: WE PLAY EVERY WEEK ONCE

A WEEK AND WE HAVE THREE GAMES

ON THOSE NIGHTS.

AND WE PLAY TWO SEASONS A YEAR.

SO WE HAVE ONE FULL LEAGUE THAT

STARTS LATE SUMMER EARLY FALL

AND ONE FULL LEAGUE THAT STARTS

IN THE WINTER.

AT THE START OF EVERY SEASON WE

DO HAVE LEARNING TO CURL EVENTS

SO IF YOU'RE CURIOUS IT GIVES

YOU AN OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT

COMMITTING TO YOU KNOW FIFTEEN

WEEKS OF SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER

DONE BEFORE.

>>TERRI: AND SO IF PEOPLE WANT

TO GET INVOLVED WHAT DO THEY DO?

>>KATIE: MY GOSH, THE EASIEST

THING IS JUST TO COME DOWN HERE

ON A MONDAY NIGHT BECAUSE I WILL

BE FLOATING AROUND LOOKING FOR

PEOPLE TO TALK TO ABOUT CURLING.

>>TERRI: AND THEN THERE'S A

FACEBOOK PAGE.

>>KATIE: YEAH, SO WE HAVE A

FACEBOOK PAGE RIGHT NOW THAT'S

PROBABLY THE MOST ACTIVE AND

THEN IF YOU'RE EVER ON THE

DOWNTOWN MALL ON A MONDAY NIGHT

COME AND STOP IN AND HAVE A BEER

AND ASK US QUESTIONS AND TRY IT

OUT. IT'S A PRETTY FLEXIBLE

GROUP.

>>TERRI: AND WHAT IS YOUR BEST

ADVICE TO A NOVICE CURLER?

>>KATIE: MY BEST ADVICE TO A

NOVICE CURLER IS, IT'S JUST A

LEARNING ENVIRONMENT AND A FUN

ENVIRONMENT TO BE IN SO JUST

KIND OF REMEMBER THE CURIOSITY

AND THE INTEREST AND THE FUN.

>>PATRICK DECKER: I AM NOT GOOD

AT ALL NO.

BUT I HAVE FUN WHICH IS THE MOST

IMPORTANT PART.

IT'S FUN TO COME OUT WITH

FRIENDS AND CO-WORKERS ON A

MONDAY NIGHT AND JUST DO

SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND HAVE

FUN.

>>CORI CAMPBELL: WHEN YOU FIRST

START LIKE FUNNY THING IS LIKE

YOU GET, YOU'RE WORRIED YOU'RE

NOT GOING TO MAKE THE ROCK ALL

THE WAY DOWN THE SHEET AND THEN

LIKE AFTER LIKE A FEW TIMES

YOU'RE LIKE I HAVE TOO MUCH

POWER I HAVE TOO MUCH POWER.

LIKE YOU CAN'T STOP IT SO, BUT

NO, I'M NOT LOSING SLEEP OVER IT

YET.

>>KARA THORNTON: YOU KNOW PEOPLE

SEE THIS IN THE OLYMPICS AND

THEY'RE LIKE, OH WHO DOES THAT?

BUT WE DO AND IT'S FUN.

LIKE I TELL PEOPLE THAT I DO

THIS AND I GET SUCH A FUN

REACTION AND I GET TO TALK ABOUT

THIS SPORT AND YOU KNOW IT'S

JUST SOMETHING UNIQUE TO BE OUT

HERE THAT'S GREAT THAT

CHARLOTTESVILLE HAS FOR US.

>>STUDENT TEACHER: YOU'RE KIND

OF GETTING TO SORT OF THE

ESSENCE OF THESE TYPES OF

NEGOTIATIONS WHICH IS THAT

YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO BEND THE

GUY OVER A BARREL.

YOU'RE TRYING TO GET HIM A GOOD

DEAL YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A GOOD

DEAL FOR YOURSELF AND THEN

YOU'LL BOTH DO BETTER IN THE

FUTURE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS

RELATIONSHIP.

>>LESLIE CHALIGOJ: IT WAS JUST

AWESOME TO SEE THAT THESE PEOPLE

CARE ENOUGH ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE

TO GIVE UP THEIR TIME TO TEACH

WOMEN THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN

SOCIETY HAD WRITTEN OFF.

>>GERARD QUARLES: I'VE SPENT A

LOT OF MY LIFE IN PLACES LIKE

THIS AND BECAUSE OF MY RECORD

AND THE GAPS IN MY JOB HISTORY

I'VE COME TO BELIEVE THAT THE

ONLY WAY THAT I'M GOING TO

ACHIEVE ANY MEANINGFUL LEVEL OF

SUCCESS IS TO OPEN MY OWN

BUSINESS.

>>TERRI ALLARD: WHAT STARTED AS

A LETTER REQUESTING ADVICE ABOUT

A BUSINESS PLAN IS NOW A

SUCCESSFUL UVA PROGRAM OFFERED

TO INCARCERATED BUT SOON TO BE

RELEASED MEN AND WOMEN IN OUR

COMMUNITY.

JOIN US AS WE VISIT WITH GREG

AND TIERNEY FAIRCHILD TO LEARN

ABOUT THE DARDEN PRISONER

RE-ENTRY EDUCATION PROGRAM.

COME ON!

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: YOU'RE

REALIZING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO

BE IN THE ROOM WITH PEOPLE WHO

HAVE DONE THE RANGE OF THINGS

YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN ON THE NEWS.

THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUALS THAT

HAVE GANG AFFILIATIONS AND THERE

ARE NO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SEX

OFFENDERS.

BUT WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE THAT ARE

VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND INCLUDING

MURDER.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: WE ALSO

LAST YEAR HAD A STUDENT WHO WAS

REMOVED FROM THE PROGRAM IN PART

BECAUSE HE WAS NOT BEING

RESPECTFUL OF THE EDUCATION

COORDINATION PEOPLE.

>>TERRI ALLARD: SO GREG, WHAT

INSPIRED YOU TO START THE

PROGRAM?

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: IT ALL STARTED

WITH A LETTER WE GOT FROM A MAN

AT THE DARDEN SCHOOL WHO WAS

MAKING A TRANSITION AND HE KNEW

THAT HE WAS UPCOMING AND HE

REALLY WANTED AN

OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN EDUCATION

THAT WOULD HELP HIM FIND A WAY

THAT HE COULD CREATE AN ENTITY

THAT WOULD HIRE SOMEONE LIKE

HIMSELF.

AND THE IDEA WAS SIMPLE.

WE WOULD BEGIN TO DO EDUCATION

WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE CURRENTLY

INCARCERATED.

RETURNING CITIZENS.

AND WE WOULD TALK TO THEM ABOUT

WAYS THAT THEY COULD TAKE THEIR

SKILLS INTO CREATING A FIRM THAT

WOULD YES EMPLOY THEM.

SO ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

>>TERRI ALLARD: TALK ABOUT THE

PROGRAM THAT IT HAS BECOME.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: WELL, I

WOULD SAY THAT I CAME ON ABOUT A

YEAR IN AFTER HEARING YOU KNOW

HIS STORIES ABOUT THESE

INCREDIBLE STUDENTS AND WHAT

THEY WERE DISCUSSING IN CLASS.

AND YOU KNOW WE'RE BOTH

GRADUATES OF THE DARDEN SCHOOL

AND THE SOCRATIC METHOD IS

SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY ENJOY,

THAT CASE METHOD WHERE YOU GET A

PROBLEM THAT'S BASED IN A

NARRATIVE WITH SOMEBODY REAL

PROBLEM.

AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE NOT

JUST TEACHING ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

AND NOW WE HAVE ADDED FINANCIAL

CAPABILITY AND A FOUNDATIONS IN

BUSINESS COURSE.

SO WE HAVE THREE COURSES FOR OUR

ENTREPRENEURIAL RE-ENTRY

PROGRAM.

>>TERRI ALLARD: AND THESE ARE

ALL TAKING PLACE IN TWO

DIFFERENT PRISONS IN THE AREA.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: YES.

>>TERRI ALLARD: DILLWYN

CORRECTIONAL CENTER AND THE

FLUVANNA WOMEN'S CORRECTIONAL

CENTER?

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: THAT'S

CORRECT.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: THAT'S

CORRECT.

>>TERRI ALLARD: SO LET'S BACK

UP.

IF AN INMATE WANTS TO

PARTICIPATE, HOW DOES THAT

HAPPEN?

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: SO THEY'D HAVE

TO BE WITHIN THREE YEARS, 36

MONTHS OF BEING RELEASED BECAUSE

THAT'S WHEN THIS TYPE OF

CONTENT, THIS TYPE OF

INFORMATION IS MOST USEFUL.

THEY MIGHT HAVE TAKEN A

CERTIFICATE IN COSMETOLOGY. THEY

MIGHT BE LEARNING HOW TO DO AUTO

REPAIR.

THEY MIGHT LEARN WELDING.

ALL OF THESE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT

THEM, LEND THEMSELVES TO RUNNING

YOUR OWN SMALL BUSINESS.

ADDITIONALLY WE LOOK FOR THINGS

LIKE WHETHER THEY'VE COMPLETED

AT LEAST AT GED.

>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: AND WE LOOK

FOR THINGS LIKE WHETHER THEY

HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF FACILITY

FOR MATH.

SO WHAT WE WANT IS IF YOU CAN

KIND OF DO ALGEBRA WE CAN KIND

OF WORK WITH YOU.

>>KEITH SHUPE: I NEVER SEEN

MYSELF IN THIS KIND OF REALM AND

NOW THAT I'M HERE YOU KNOW I

EXCELLED IN MATH BUT I NEVER

MASTERED THE MINDSET OF HOW TO

FIGURE UP ACCUMULATED INTEREST.

AND TAKING THIS COURSE HERE HAS

GIVEN ME THAT KNOWLEDGE OF HOW

TO FIGURE UP ACCUMULATED

INTEREST WHICH IS A VERY

BENEFICIAL TOOL TO KNOW HOW TO

DO WHEN YOU'RE GENERATING YOUR

OWN BUSINESS.

>>GERARD QUARLES: I DIDN'T

REALLY KNOW HOW TO TRANSITION

FROM AN IDEA TO MAKE THE PLAN

FUNCTION, TO MAKE THE PLAN

BREATHE.

NEVER THOUGHT, I FIGURED YOU

KNOW, OKAY IF I'M SELLING IT FOR

MORE THAN I'M BUYING IT THEN I

GOTTA BE MAKING MONEY, RIGHT?

BUT THEN THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF

OTHER THINGS THAT I HADN'T

CONSIDERED BEFORE.

AND SO WITH THESE TOOLS IN

ADDITION TO WHAT I ALREADY HAD

I'M REALLY CONFIDENT AND REALLY

EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S GETTING

READY TO HAPPEN WHEN I GO HOME

IN TWO YEARS.

>>STUDENT TEACHER: SO HAVE YOU

GUYS COME TO AN AGREEMENT OR ARE

YOU STILL WORKING?

>>TERRI ALLARD: WHEN THE PROGRAM

STARTED YOU WERE IN THERE, YOU

WERE TEACHING, BUT NOW DARDEN

STUDENTS ARE TEACHING.

TALK ABOUT THAT TRANSITION.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: WELL NOW

THAT WE HAVE SO MANY STUDENTS WE

HAVE THEM IN SELF-MANAGED TEAMS

OF 7.

BUT THEY GO IN AND THEY PREPARE.

THEY MANAGE THE TEACHING

SCHEDULE.

THEY GET THEIR TRAINING. THEY

GET CLEARANCE TO GO IN.

THEY WORK TOGETHER THROUGHOUT

THE YEAR THEY GRADE AND THEY ARE

THE FACE OF OUR PROGRAM AND WE

REALLY DIDN'T REALIZE, TERRI,

WHAT HAS BEEN A REALLY IMPORTANT

SECONDARY BENEFIT IS NOT ONLY

ARE WE ACTUALLY HELPING THESE

PEOPLE WHO ARE RETURNING

CITIZENS •

>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: AND WE'RE

HELPING THEM NOT JUST IN

ENTREPRENEURSHIP BUT ALSO JUST

WITH THEIR CONFIDENCE OF GETTING

JOBS AND GETTING EMPLOYMENT BUT

WE'RE ALSO AFFECTING THE MINDS

AND LIVES OF THESE MBA STUDENTS

WHO ARE OUR FUTURE BUSINESS

LEADERS.

>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: AND WHEN

THEY THINK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING

ON WITH THIS ISSUE OF MASS

INCARCERATION AND HOW ARE WE

UNDEREMPLOYING POTENTIAL PEOPLE

WHO COULD BE INCREDIBLE

CONTRIBUTORS TO SOCIETY.

>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.

>> GREG FAIRCHILD: BUT ANOTHER

ASPECT OF WHAT TIERNEY SAID IS,

THEY'RE GONNA LEAD PEOPLE IN

THEIR ORGANIZATIONS.

YOUR ABILITY TO EXPLAIN A

COMPLICATED CONCEPT TO SOMEONE

WHO HAS NEVER LEARNED IT IS A

BIG PART OF HOW YOU SUCCEED IN

BUSINESS.

>>STUDENT TEACHER: SO WOULD YOU

WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH HIM

AGAIN?

>>INMATE: LAUGHTER.

I PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO BUSINESS

WITH HIM.

I PROBABLY WOULD TELL MY BOSS TO

HANDLE THIS CONTRACT NEXT TIME

BUT IF HE HAS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE

HE WANTED TO REPRESENT HIM, I

MIGHT GIVE IT A SHOT.

>>STUDENT TEACHER: RICHARD, WHAT

DO YOU THINK?

>>INMATE 2: I WOULD DO BUSINESS

WITH HIM AGAIN •

>>STUDENT TEACHER: I BET YOU

WOULD.

>>ALFONSO CARNEY: WITH MY UNCLE

WHO'S BEEN IN AND OUT OF JAIL

SINCE THE LATE NINETIES, HAD HE

HAD SOME SKILLS THAT COULD HAVE

HELPED HIM GET A JOB WHEN HE GOT

OUT, START HIS OWN BUSINESS,

SEEM MORE PROFESSIONAL EVEN,

LIKE JUST LITTLE THINGS I THINK

WOULD HAVE GONE A LONG WAY TO

HELP HIM OUT.

>>KATIE WHITE O'RIORDAN: GROWING

UP MY GRANDMA ALWAYS TOLD ME, TO

WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS

EXPECTED AND SO FOR ME I THINK

THE CARDS ARE STACKED AGAINST A

LOT OF PEOPLE AND SO THIS IS MY

WAY OF TRYING TO UNDO THAT A

LITTLE BIT.

>>STUDENT TEACHER: HE'S THE

WHAT?

>>INMATE: GM

>>STUDENT TEACHER: WHAT'S THAT?

>>INMATE: GENERAL MANAGER.

>>STUDENT TEACHER: WHAT'S THE

GENERAL MANAGER DO?

>>INMATE: DAILY OPERATIONS.

>>STUDENT TEACHER: OKAY SO NOW

THAT WE HAVE KIND OF A FRAMEWORK

OF WHAT THIS COMPANY IS ABOUT

SOMEBODY WALK ME THROUGH WHAT

EXACTLY IS GOING ON.

>>TERRI ALLARD: TALK ABOUT THE

BENEFITS OF THIS PROGRAM TO THE

PRISONERS.

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: I GOT A LETTER

AFTER THE FIRST YEAR ABOUT ONE

OF THE MEN WE WERE WORKING WITH

AND HE HAD A COUNSELOR AND THE

COUNSELOR WROTE ME A LETTER AND

SAID, ARCHIE IS DREAMING AGAIN.

AND IT SAID THAT THE EXPERIENCE

IN THE CLASS HAD CHANGED HIS

OUTLOOK FROM ONE WHERE LIFE IS

DEFINED FOR ME TO ONE WHERE I

CAN HAVE A ROLE IN DEFINING MY

LIFE.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: WE HAD A

WOMAN YOU KNOW GO THROUGH ALL

THREE OF OUR PROGRAMS.

SHE HAD A VERY SMART BUSINESS

PLAN BUT SHE WASN'T VERY GOOD

AND CONFIDENT IN HER

PRESENTATION.

WELL BY THE SECOND AND THEN THE

THIRD CLASS SHE WAS SHE WOULD

COME BACK IN AND TELL THE OTHER

STUDENTS HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO

DO, HERE'S WHAT I LEARNED AND

HERE'S HOW I HAVE CHANGED MY

PRESENCE AND MY OUTLOOK BECAUSE

I AM NOW MORE CONFIDENT IN MY

ABILITY TO GO BACK TO MY

COMMUNITY AND TO BE ABLE TO DO

NOT ONLY THIS BUSINESS IF I

CHOOSE TO BUT ANY JOB THAT I'M

GIVEN.

>>TERRI ALLARD: RIGHT.

AND DURING THE PROGRAM THEY

OBVIOUSLY COME UP WITH THE PLAN.

THEY HAVE AN IDEA FOR A BUSINESS

AND THEY WORK THAT THROUGH. WHAT

HAPPENS AT THE END?

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: THE PERSON

SAYS HEY I COMPLETED THE PROGRAM

IN COSMETOLOGY, I COMPLETED THE

PROGRAM IN CARPENTRY, BUT I ALSO

HAVE THE MAJOR BUSINESS SCHOOL

CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION AND

THESE TWO THINGS WE THINK SAY

SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO AN

EMPLOYER WHO MIGHT WONDER ABOUT

WHETHER THE PERSON HAS REALLY

MADE THE CHANGE THEY CLAIM.

>>LESLIE CHALIGOJ: AT FIRST I

DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN UP FOR THE

DARDEN PROGRAM AND I'M SO SO

GLAD I DID.

WHAT THEY GIVE TO EVERYBODY THEY

WORK WITH IS THEIR ALL.

THERE'S NO CORNERS CUT AND WHAT

THEY TAUGHT ME I CAN'T EVEN

BEGIN TO PUT A VALUE ON THAT.

>>GERARD QUARLES: YOU'RE GETTING

TAUGHT BY THESE MBA STUDENTS BUT

YOU'RE ALSO LEARNING FROM

EVERYBODY'S EXPERIENCE IN THE

ROOM.

THE CASE STUDIES THEY'RE -- THEY

HELP ME TAKE MY COMMON SENSE AND

THEN THEY GIVE BUSINESS

PRINCIPALS TO IT AND THEN IT'S

LIKE, OK NOW I CAN COMMUNICATE

WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN

BUSINESS ABOUT THINGS THAT I

FOUND OUT I

ALREADY KNEW IN SOME CASES AND I

THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.

I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE A PART OF

IT.

>>STUDENT TEACHER: SO EXPLAIN TO

DEAL AND WHY YOU THINK IT WAS

GOOD.

>>INMATE: I FIGURED I WOULD

LOWER THE PRICE IN ORDER TO KEEP

HIM LOCKED IN FOR THE NEXT THREE

YEARS.

THEN WE CAN NEGOTIATE ANOTHER

DEAL.

>>TERRI ALLARD: HOW MANY OF THE

GRADUATES WHO ARE BACK IN THE

COMMUNITY ARE RUNNING BUSINESSES

OR DO YOU HAVE A TRACK RECORD

FOR THAT?

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: FIRST OF

ALL, YES OUR GOAL IS THAT PEOPLE

WILL HAVE EITHER A BUSINESS OR A

JOB. A NUMBER OF OUR, WE KNOW

ANECDOTALLY THAT A NUMBER OF OUR

STUDENTS LEAVE AND THEY GO BACK

TO CONTINUING EDUCATION.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOTTEN

INTO VCU, INTO WILLIAM AND MARY,

TO OTHER SCHOOLS, ONE AT ODU.

SO WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING

TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND

FINISHING THAT PART OF THEIR

EDUCATION.

WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED

US FOR REFERENCE LETTERS AND WE

DO KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR, SOME

OF THE RETURNING CITIZENS THAT

WE TAUGHT HAVE STARTED

BUSINESSES.

IN FACT ONE GENTLEMAN IN

CHARLOTTESVILLE JUST GOT IN

TOUCH WITH US AND HE'S RUNNING A

CONTRACTING BUSINESS.

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: FROM WHAT WE

KNOW NOW THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN

TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE RECIDIVATED

AND NEITHER OF THOSE WAS FOR AN

ADDITIONAL INFRACTION.

>>TERRI ALLARD: AND THIS IS OUT

OF ALMOST 300 STUDENTS.

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: THAT'S

CORRECT.

SO THE QUESTION NOW IS HOW CAN

WE CONTINUE TO BE EXPERTS AT

PROVIDING EDUCATION AND WHERE

CAN WE PROVIDE IT?

CAN WE PROVIDE IT IN A JUVENILE

FACILITY?

CAN WE PROVIDE IT IN A FEDERAL

FACILITY OR EVEN IN OTHER

STATES, IN OTHER UNIVERSITIES.

>>KEITH SHUPE: WHETHER I'M

INVOLVED IN THE DARDEN PROGRAM

OR JUST IN EDUCATION IN ANY

FACET IT WILL KEEP ME GROUNDED,

YOU KNOW KEEP ME FOCUSED ON

CONCENTRATING ON THE THINGS THAT

ARE BENEFICIAL TO LIFE AS

OPPOSED TO THE THINGS THAT JUST

BRING PLEASURE TO LIFE, LIKE

DRINKING.

>>GERARD QUARLES: I WANT TO RUN

FOOD TRUCK, ACTUALLY MAYBE THREE

OR FOUR FOOD TRUCKS.

PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME, MY FRIENDS

WHEN I COOK FOR THEM THEY TELL

ME I SHOULD BE SELLING THIS

STUFF SO IT WAS A FIT FOR ME.

>>LESLIE CHALIGOJ: DARDEN HELPED

ME TO BROADEN MY MIND.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY

DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND YOU HAVE

TO LEARN HOW TO SPEAK IN FROM OF

PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO DEFEND

YOUR ANSWERS WITHOUT GETTING

ANGRY.

I'M VERY BLESSED.

AND THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT

GREG AND TIERNEY, I BELIEVE

THERE ARE ANGELS WALKING THIS

EARTH AND THEY ARE TWO OF THEM.

>>GREG FAIRCHILD: SO YOU'LL DO

THE WHOLE SPLIT THE ROOM BRING

THEM TOGETHER MAKE THEM

NEGOTIATE AND THEN DEBRIEF.

>>TIERNEY FAIRCHILD: THERE'A AN

APPENDIX IN THE BACK AND KIM HAS

GIVEN NOTES ON HOW TO DO THE

TYPES OF PROBLEMS AND TYPES OF

CONCEPTS WE'RE EMPHASIZING AND

SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THAT AND THEY

KNOW ABOUT THE FORMULA SHEET AND

THEY CAN USE THEIR CALCULATORS

ON TESTS.

THE ONLY TIME PEOPLE CAN'T WORK

TOGETHER IS WHEN THEY'RE TAKING

A TEST.

OKAY? THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY

THING.

>>TERRI ALLARD: THAT'S IT FOR

THIS WEEK.

FOR WHTJ I'M TERRI ALLARD.

JOIN US NEXT TIME ON

CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT.

>>ANNOUNCER: THIS PRESENTATION

WAS MADE POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART

TO THE PATRONS OF

“CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT ”

COMMITTED TO EXPLORING THE

PEOPLE, PLACES AND QUALITY OF

LIFE THAT UNIQUELY DEFINE

CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS

SURROUNDINGS.

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