1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:02,600 >> HISTORY FASCINATED ME, JUST 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,033 KNOWING YOU KNOW HOW THINGS WERE 3 00:00:04,033 --> 00:00:05,433 I MEAN ANY KIND OF HISTORY I 4 00:00:05,433 --> 00:00:07,333 COULD GET MY HANDS ON. 5 00:00:07,333 --> 00:00:09,066 >> THEY WERE REAL PEOPLE. 6 00:00:09,066 --> 00:00:10,766 IT WAS IT WAS HAUNTING AND IT 7 00:00:10,766 --> 00:00:12,233 WAS SOBERING. 8 00:00:12,233 --> 00:00:13,300 >> THAT'S PART OF THE 9 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:15,233 INTERESTING DUALITY OF HISTORY 10 00:00:15,233 --> 00:00:17,000 IS THAT HE WAS FRAMER OF THE 11 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,700 NATION AND THE SLAVEHOLDER. 12 00:00:18,700 --> 00:00:19,500 >> TERRI: TODAY WE'LL BE 13 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:21,533 EXPLORING THE CENTER FOR 14 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:23,433 CONSTITUTIONAL EDUCATION AND 15 00:00:23,433 --> 00:00:25,300 MUSEUM OF AMERICAN HISTORY THAT 16 00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:26,866 INCLUDES THE POWERFUL EXHIBITION 17 00:00:26,866 --> 00:00:27,566 “THE MERE DISTINCTION OF 18 00:00:27,566 --> 00:00:28,566 COLOUR. ”. 19 00:00:28,566 --> 00:00:30,366 JOIN US AS WE TRAVEL TO ORANGE 20 00:00:30,366 --> 00:00:31,000 COUNTY, VIRGINIA, TO VISIT 21 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,366 MONTPELIER, HOME OF JAMES AND 22 00:00:33,366 --> 00:00:35,033 DOLLEY MADISON. 23 00:00:35,033 --> 00:00:37,666 COME ON! 24 00:00:37,666 --> 00:00:38,466 >> LIKE MOST FOLKS, I DIDN'T 25 00:00:38,466 --> 00:00:39,233 KNOW MUCH ABOUT MADISON, YEAH, 26 00:00:39,233 --> 00:00:40,866 FOURTH PRESIDENT OF THE US, 27 00:00:40,866 --> 00:00:41,533 FATHER OF THE CONSTITUTION, 28 00:00:41,533 --> 00:00:43,966 ARCHITECT OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS, 29 00:00:43,966 --> 00:00:45,066 BUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? 30 00:00:45,066 --> 00:00:45,933 AS I'VE BEEN HERE I'VE REALLY 31 00:00:45,933 --> 00:00:47,566 COME TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF 32 00:00:47,566 --> 00:00:48,900 MADISON WE TAKE SO MANY THINGS 33 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:49,833 FOR GRANTED. 34 00:00:49,833 --> 00:00:52,166 >> TERRI: SO, WHAT IS IT THAT 35 00:00:52,166 --> 00:00:54,500 YOU FIND MOST INTRIGUING ABOUT 36 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:55,566 MADISON? 37 00:00:55,566 --> 00:00:57,700 AND WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD 38 00:00:57,700 --> 00:00:58,666 SURPRISE PEOPLE MOST TO LEARN 39 00:00:58,666 --> 00:00:59,600 ABOUT HIM? 40 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,466 >> MADISON ENDS UP TO ME BEING A 41 00:01:01,466 --> 00:01:03,566 VERY MODERN FIGURE. 42 00:01:03,566 --> 00:01:05,000 AND MADISON IS REALLY ONE OF THE 43 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,666 FIRST STRONG PROPONENTS FOR 44 00:01:05,666 --> 00:01:07,100 FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE. 45 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:08,533 THAT FIRST -- OUR FIRST 46 00:01:08,533 --> 00:01:09,366 AMENDMENT RIGHT, THAT SEPARATION 47 00:01:09,366 --> 00:01:10,133 FROM CHURCH AND STATE. 48 00:01:10,133 --> 00:01:11,900 HE IS STRONG ABOUT THAT AS FROM 49 00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:14,300 18 YEARS OLD AND ON, SO THIS IS 50 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:15,800 SOMETHING THAT IS JUST INTEGRAL 51 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,566 TO HIS SOUL. 52 00:01:17,566 --> 00:01:19,000 BUT OTHER PARTS OF BEING AN 53 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,033 AMERICAN THAT WE JUST GO, WHERE 54 00:01:20,033 --> 00:01:20,733 DID THAT COME FROM? 55 00:01:20,733 --> 00:01:22,766 THIS BALANCE OF POWERS, THE 56 00:01:22,766 --> 00:01:25,200 IDEA THAT YOU COULD HAVE THIS 57 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,666 EXTENDED REPUBLIC -- THOSE ARE 58 00:01:26,666 --> 00:01:28,700 ALL REALLY MADISONIAN THOUGHTS 59 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:30,466 AND HE WAS AN INCREDIBLY 60 00:01:30,466 --> 00:01:31,300 POWERFUL POLITICAL THINKER AND I 61 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:31,933 DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND 62 00:01:31,933 --> 00:01:33,333 THAT. 63 00:01:33,333 --> 00:01:35,166 MY BIGGEST SURPRISE, HOWEVER, 64 00:01:35,166 --> 00:01:36,300 WAS ALSO TO UNDERSTAND THAT 65 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:37,900 MADISON WAS AN EARLY VOICE FOR 66 00:01:37,900 --> 00:01:39,266 CONSERVATION. 67 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:41,200 200 YEARS AGO, JUST BEHIND US HE 68 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,833 SET ASIDE ACREAGE IN ONE OF THE 69 00:01:43,833 --> 00:01:45,100 LAST OLD GROWTH FORESTS ON THE 70 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:46,900 EAST COAST. 71 00:01:46,900 --> 00:01:48,333 HE SAID THAT HE FEARED THE LOSS 72 00:01:48,333 --> 00:01:50,233 OF FOREST LAND AND THE DEPLETION 73 00:01:50,233 --> 00:01:50,966 OF SOIL. 74 00:01:50,966 --> 00:01:52,766 SO HE'S CREDITED AS ONE OF THE 75 00:01:52,766 --> 00:01:53,400 EARLY ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND THAT 76 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,433 WAS A SURPRISE TO ME. 77 00:01:55,433 --> 00:01:56,833 >> TERRI: WELL, OKAY, SO PEOPLE 78 00:01:56,833 --> 00:01:58,500 WHEN THEY COME THERE'S SO MUCH 79 00:01:58,500 --> 00:01:59,466 TO DO AND SEE HERE AT 80 00:01:59,466 --> 00:02:00,533 MONTPELIER. 81 00:02:00,533 --> 00:02:01,166 WHAT SHOULD THEY BE DOING? 82 00:02:01,166 --> 00:02:02,666 >> WELL, THERE IS A LOT TO SEE 83 00:02:02,666 --> 00:02:04,233 HERE, IT IS 2600 ACRES. 84 00:02:04,233 --> 00:02:04,966 AND WE HAVE MADE IT FREE TO COME 85 00:02:04,966 --> 00:02:06,366 ON TO THE PROPERTY. 86 00:02:06,366 --> 00:02:07,833 BUT THEN WHEN YOU REALLY THINK 87 00:02:07,833 --> 00:02:10,133 ABOUT THE KIND OF ARC OF THE 88 00:02:10,133 --> 00:02:11,233 AMERICAN EXPERIENCE, YOU CAN 89 00:02:11,233 --> 00:02:12,066 TOUCH ON ALL POINTS OF IT HERE. 90 00:02:12,066 --> 00:02:14,600 YOU CAN VISIT THE HOUSE, LEARN 91 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,900 ABOUT MADISON AND THE EARLY WORK 92 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:17,666 ON THE CONSTITUTION. 93 00:02:17,666 --> 00:02:18,633 YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THE CIVIL 94 00:02:18,633 --> 00:02:20,133 WAR BECAUSE WE HAVE A CIVIL WAR 95 00:02:20,133 --> 00:02:22,033 PORTION ON THIS SITE. 96 00:02:22,033 --> 00:02:24,000 WE HAVE A FREEDMAN'S CABIN, SO 97 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,566 UNUSUAL, THE GILMORE CABIN. 98 00:02:25,566 --> 00:02:26,600 AND WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE IN 99 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,600 ORANGE THAT ARE THREE 100 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,466 GENERATIONS REMOVED FROM BEING 101 00:02:30,466 --> 00:02:32,800 RELATED TO FOLKS AT THAT CABIN. 102 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,400 AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE A 103 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,733 JIM CROW TRAIN STATION. 104 00:02:35,733 --> 00:02:37,766 A VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION 105 00:02:37,766 --> 00:02:38,933 ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED POST THE 106 00:02:38,933 --> 00:02:40,133 CIVIL WAR. 107 00:02:40,133 --> 00:02:41,766 SO YOU CAN REALLY DO IT ALL 108 00:02:41,766 --> 00:02:42,333 HERE. 109 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:43,833 WE HAVE A PUBLIC ARCHAEOLOGY 110 00:02:43,833 --> 00:02:44,800 PROGRAM. 111 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,866 WE ALSO RUN THE ROBERT H. SMITH 112 00:02:45,866 --> 00:02:47,233 CENTER FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND 113 00:02:47,233 --> 00:02:48,100 WE HAVE COURSES WHERE PEOPLE CAN 114 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:50,800 COME DO CONSTITUTION 101. 115 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,933 BUT WE ALSO DO A LOT OF WORK 116 00:02:52,933 --> 00:02:53,700 WITH VERY SPECIALIZED 117 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:55,866 COMMUNITIES SUCH AS TEACHERS. 118 00:02:55,866 --> 00:02:58,866 WE WORK WITH POLICE OFFICERS. 119 00:02:58,866 --> 00:03:00,200 IN FACT, INCREASINGLY THAT'S 120 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,233 BEEN A BIG PART OF KIND OF 121 00:03:01,233 --> 00:03:02,533 CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING AND WHAT 122 00:03:02,533 --> 00:03:03,766 DOES IT MEAN WHEN THE FIRST AND 123 00:03:03,766 --> 00:03:05,533 SECOND AMENDMENT COLLIDE, YOU 124 00:03:05,533 --> 00:03:06,300 KNOW, WHERE DO THE POLICE LAND 125 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:07,433 ON THAT? 126 00:03:07,433 --> 00:03:09,233 AND WE WORK ALSO WITH THE 127 00:03:09,233 --> 00:03:10,833 INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY A LOT OF 128 00:03:10,833 --> 00:03:11,600 TIMES, ESPECIALLY WITH 129 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,600 COUNTRIES, SUB SAHARAN AFRICA 130 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,600 THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH WRITING 131 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,400 THEIR OWN CONSTITUTION AND WANT 132 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,833 TO COME HERE AND LEARN AND 133 00:03:17,833 --> 00:03:20,166 REALLY UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE 134 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:21,266 MADISONIAN PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE 135 00:03:21,266 --> 00:03:22,033 DRIVEN OUR COUNTRY. 136 00:03:22,033 --> 00:03:23,000 >> TERRI: OH, AND THEN TALK 137 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,633 ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TOURS THAT 138 00:03:23,633 --> 00:03:26,266 PEOPLE CAN TAKE OF THE HOUSE. 139 00:03:26,266 --> 00:03:28,000 >> SO WE'VE GOT KIND OF YOUR 140 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,766 SIGNATURE TOUR, WHICH I WOULD 141 00:03:28,766 --> 00:03:30,833 SAY IS GET TO KNOW JAMES AND 142 00:03:30,833 --> 00:03:32,500 DOLLEY UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL 143 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:34,000 ABOUT THE RETIREMENT YEARS HERE 144 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,566 BUT YOU CAN ALSO LEARN ABOUT THE 145 00:03:35,566 --> 00:03:37,800 WOMEN OF MONTPELIER THAT LOOKS 146 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,466 VERY CLOSELY AT HIS MOTHER AND 147 00:03:39,466 --> 00:03:40,233 HIS GRANDMOTHER -- TALKING ABOUT 148 00:03:40,233 --> 00:03:42,033 JAMES MADISON'S MOTHER AND 149 00:03:42,033 --> 00:03:42,433 GRANDMOTHER. 150 00:03:42,433 --> 00:03:44,000 AND ALSO THE WOMEN WHO WERE 151 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,200 ENSLAVED HERE AT MONTPELIER AND 152 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,766 HOW THEY REALLY SHAPED THIS 153 00:03:46,766 --> 00:03:47,066 STORY. 154 00:03:47,066 --> 00:03:48,200 THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. 155 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,900 WE HAVE ARCHAEOLOGY TOURS, WE 156 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:50,700 HAVE WALKS THROUGH THE BIG 157 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:54,066 WOODS, OUR LANDMARK FOREST, OUR 158 00:03:54,066 --> 00:03:55,566 OLD GROWTH FOREST. 159 00:03:55,566 --> 00:03:56,366 SO THERE'S A WEALTH OF 160 00:03:56,366 --> 00:03:57,200 OPPORTUNITIES, THERE'S SOMETHING 161 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:57,633 FOR EVERYONE. 162 00:03:57,633 --> 00:03:59,666 >> WE RELOCATED FROM SOUTH 163 00:03:59,666 --> 00:04:02,866 CAROLINA AND WE WANTED TO LEARN 164 00:04:02,866 --> 00:04:04,733 ABOUT OUR NEW HOME AND THE 165 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:05,700 HISTORICAL VALUE AND HAVE A 166 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:08,633 GREAT WAY TO SPEND THE DAY OFF. 167 00:04:08,633 --> 00:04:11,200 >> I LIKE HER I LIKE THE BEDROOM 168 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:11,900 I'M GONNA SAY HER BEDROOM IT WAS 169 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:13,266 IT WAS THEIR BEDROOM BUT HER 170 00:04:13,266 --> 00:04:14,100 BEDROOM. 171 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:15,433 IT WAS VERY FESTIVE AND ALL IN 172 00:04:15,433 --> 00:04:16,233 RED AND STUFF I REALLY LIKED 173 00:04:16,233 --> 00:04:17,300 THAT. 174 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:19,633 YOU GET DOLLEY'S SPIRIT IN THERE 175 00:04:19,633 --> 00:04:22,133 >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAY HERE 176 00:04:22,133 --> 00:04:24,400 IS THAT SOMETIMES OBJECTS HAVE 177 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,666 MAGIC AND THE PLACE BECOMES 178 00:04:26,666 --> 00:04:28,466 MAGICAL WHEN YOU SEE THE THINGS 179 00:04:28,466 --> 00:04:30,166 THAT WERE ACTUALLY HERE WHEN FOR 180 00:04:30,166 --> 00:04:30,966 EXAMPLE, THE MADISON'S WERE 181 00:04:30,966 --> 00:04:32,733 HERE. 182 00:04:32,733 --> 00:04:35,033 THE TABLE IN THE DINING ROOM IS 183 00:04:35,033 --> 00:04:37,700 THE TABLE THAT HIS FAMILY SAT 184 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:38,666 AROUND. 185 00:04:38,666 --> 00:04:40,300 AND WE ALWAYS GET A LITTLE “AH ” 186 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:41,000 WHEN I SAY, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL 187 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 TABLE. 188 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,233 >> TERRI: KAT, WHEN YOU CAME ON 189 00:04:44,233 --> 00:04:45,500 BOARD IN 2012, WHAT WERE YOUR 190 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:47,533 MAIN GOALS HERE FOR MONTPELIER? 191 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:49,066 >> WELL, IT WAS SO EXCITING TO 192 00:04:49,066 --> 00:04:51,066 BE INVITED TO BE PRESIDENT HERE, 193 00:04:51,066 --> 00:04:52,866 BUT I DID WANT TO ACCOMPLISH A 194 00:04:52,866 --> 00:04:53,533 COUPLE OF THINGS, AND WE CAN 195 00:04:53,533 --> 00:04:54,700 JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S 196 00:04:54,700 --> 00:04:55,933 HAPPENED OR NOT. 197 00:04:55,933 --> 00:04:57,166 ONE IS WE'RE A YOUNG 198 00:04:57,166 --> 00:04:58,833 INSTITUTION, ONLY 18 YEARS OLD 199 00:04:58,833 --> 00:05:00,200 AND MADISON REALLY HADN'T COME 200 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,633 BACK TO MONTPELIER YET. 201 00:05:01,633 --> 00:05:03,066 THE HOUSE HAD BEEN RESTORED BUT 202 00:05:03,066 --> 00:05:04,266 THERE WERE REALLY VERY FEW 203 00:05:04,266 --> 00:05:05,500 OBJECTS IN IT AND YOU REALLY 204 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:07,200 COULDN'T ENVISION THE PRESIDENT 205 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,366 BEING HERE WITH DOLLEY. 206 00:05:09,366 --> 00:05:10,900 SO PART OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO 207 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:12,766 WAS REALLY FULLY FURNISH THE 208 00:05:12,766 --> 00:05:13,500 HOUSE. 209 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:15,200 AND THEN I SAW THIS AMAZING 210 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,633 OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO TELL A 211 00:05:17,633 --> 00:05:18,966 COMPLETE AMERICAN STORY HERE. 212 00:05:18,966 --> 00:05:20,633 NOT JUST ABOUT THE FATHER OF THE 213 00:05:20,633 --> 00:05:21,700 CONSTITUTION, BUT THE THREE 214 00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:24,133 HUNDRED PEOPLE WHO MADE HIS LIFE 215 00:05:24,133 --> 00:05:25,300 AND DOLLEY'S LIFE POSSIBLE AND 216 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:26,366 THOSE WERE THE FOLKS THAT WERE 217 00:05:26,366 --> 00:05:27,600 ENSLAVED HERE AND SO THAT WAS 218 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,633 VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AS WELL. 219 00:05:29,633 --> 00:05:31,233 SO THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE 220 00:05:31,233 --> 00:05:32,500 EVOLUTION HERE. 221 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,066 AND THERE'S A THIRD LEG TO THE 222 00:05:34,066 --> 00:05:35,066 STORY, WHICH IS WHAT ARE YOU 223 00:05:35,066 --> 00:05:37,400 GOING TO DO WITH 2600 ACRES? 224 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,166 AND THAT WAS OPENING IT TO THE 225 00:05:39,166 --> 00:05:40,433 PUBLIC, LOOKING MORE AT 226 00:05:40,433 --> 00:05:42,133 CONSERVATION AND MAKING THIS 227 00:05:42,133 --> 00:05:43,500 REALLY A PLACE OF THE PEOPLE, 228 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:44,100 >>RIGHT? 229 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:44,866 >>THE CONSTITUTION -- WE THE 230 00:05:44,866 --> 00:05:45,466 PEOPLE. 231 00:05:45,466 --> 00:05:46,000 IT'S OUR PLACE. 232 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,600 >> TERRI: AND YOU HAVE A 233 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,833 PERMANENT EXHIBIT HERE, A VERY 234 00:05:48,833 --> 00:05:50,333 POWERFUL EXHIBIT. 235 00:05:50,333 --> 00:05:51,766 THE "MERE DISTINCTION OF COLOR," 236 00:05:51,766 --> 00:05:54,466 TELL US ABOUT THIS AND WHY IT 237 00:05:54,466 --> 00:05:56,833 WAS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU AND TO 238 00:05:56,833 --> 00:06:00,300 THE FOUNDATION TO TELL THIS 239 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:02,433 STORY, THIS PART OF MONTPELIER'S 240 00:06:02,433 --> 00:06:04,166 STORY. 241 00:06:04,166 --> 00:06:05,500 >> I THINK AS AMERICANS 242 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:06,433 SOMETIMES WE REALLY LEAVE A LOT 243 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:07,966 OF OUR HISTORY TO THE SIDE AND I 244 00:06:07,966 --> 00:06:09,600 LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU LOOK 245 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,166 AT HISTORY CLOSELY, WHEN YOU 246 00:06:11,166 --> 00:06:13,533 REALLY KNOW HISTORY, IT'S PRETTY 247 00:06:13,533 --> 00:06:14,666 RADICAL. 248 00:06:14,666 --> 00:06:16,933 IT'S PRETTY SCARY SOMETIMES BUT 249 00:06:16,933 --> 00:06:18,533 IT'S ALWAYS VERY INSPIRATIONAL. 250 00:06:18,533 --> 00:06:19,433 AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED 251 00:06:19,433 --> 00:06:20,366 HERE. 252 00:06:20,366 --> 00:06:22,200 WE SPENT 20 YEARS BY WORKING 253 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,966 WITH THE DESCENDENT COMMUNITY 254 00:06:23,966 --> 00:06:24,800 HERE, AND BY THAT I MEAN PEOPLE 255 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,100 WHO WERE DESCENDED FROM FOLKS 256 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:27,866 WHO HAD BEEN ENSLAVED AT JAMES 257 00:06:27,866 --> 00:06:29,566 MADISON'S MONTPELIER, AND 258 00:06:29,566 --> 00:06:31,400 LISTENING TO THEM AND SAYING HOW 259 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,400 ARE WE GOING TO BRING YOU INTO 260 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,300 THE STORY? 261 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:34,433 BECAUSE YOU WERE HERE TOO, YOU 262 00:06:34,433 --> 00:06:35,333 MADE THIS POSSIBLE. 263 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:37,366 WHAT THEY SAID TO US WAS WE WANT 264 00:06:37,366 --> 00:06:38,933 THE HUMANITY OF OUR ANCESTORS TO 265 00:06:38,933 --> 00:06:40,900 COME THROUGH, WE ALSO WANT TO 266 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:42,900 REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THIS HUMAN 267 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:44,633 STRUGGLE FOR LIBERTY THAT IS 268 00:06:44,633 --> 00:06:45,866 PART OF ALL OF OUR STORIES AND 269 00:06:45,866 --> 00:06:47,866 WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE LEGACY 270 00:06:47,866 --> 00:06:49,233 OF SLAVERY TODAY. 271 00:06:49,233 --> 00:06:51,366 SO I THINK IT IS A VERY 272 00:06:51,366 --> 00:06:53,133 IMPORTANT PART OF OUR AMERICAN 273 00:06:53,133 --> 00:06:55,000 DNA TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ALL 274 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,766 FIT IN THIS PICTURE AND WE DO 275 00:06:56,766 --> 00:06:58,333 ALL FIT IN THIS PICTURE. 276 00:06:58,333 --> 00:06:59,533 IT'S INSPIRATIONAL, IT'S 277 00:06:59,533 --> 00:07:01,833 PROVOCATIVE, ITS AWARD-WINNING 278 00:07:01,833 --> 00:07:02,666 AND I HOPE EVERYONE WILL TAKE 279 00:07:02,666 --> 00:07:03,900 THE TIME TO SEE IT. 280 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:05,466 >> I GO AROUND, I LOOK FOR 281 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:06,966 FINGERPRINTS IN THE BRICKS. 282 00:07:06,966 --> 00:07:09,133 AND MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT IS 283 00:07:09,133 --> 00:07:10,766 MY ANCESTORS ARE REACHING OUT TO 284 00:07:10,766 --> 00:07:13,100 ME SAYING, WE WERE HERE. 285 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:14,466 TELL OUR STORY. 286 00:07:14,466 --> 00:07:16,066 AND THAT'S WHAT THE ARCHAEOLOGY 287 00:07:16,066 --> 00:07:16,733 DOES. 288 00:07:16,733 --> 00:07:17,566 >> YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTING 289 00:07:17,566 --> 00:07:18,533 PART ABOUT THIS EXHIBITION IS WE 290 00:07:18,533 --> 00:07:20,066 WANTED IT TO BE LESS ACADEMIC 291 00:07:20,066 --> 00:07:22,833 AND A LITTLE MORE EMOTIONAL. 292 00:07:22,833 --> 00:07:23,533 WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW 293 00:07:23,533 --> 00:07:24,700 ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WERE ENSLAVED 294 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:25,433 HERE. 295 00:07:25,433 --> 00:07:26,500 YOU KNOW, THE NAMES WE KNOW THE 296 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:27,166 STORIES WE KNOW. 297 00:07:27,166 --> 00:07:29,333 WE'LL TALK TO THEIR DESCENDANTS 298 00:07:29,333 --> 00:07:30,866 ABOUT HOW THEY REMEMBER THEIR 299 00:07:30,866 --> 00:07:32,200 ANCESTRAL STORIES, HOW THAT'S 300 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,133 BEEN ENCULTURATED. 301 00:07:34,133 --> 00:07:35,633 YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE USE THAT 302 00:07:35,633 --> 00:07:36,433 AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE 303 00:07:36,433 --> 00:07:37,900 TRIALS AND SOME OF THE TRIUMPHS 304 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:39,200 TO HOPEFULLY KEEP MOVING IN THE 305 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,400 RIGHT DIRECTION. 306 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,533 >> PAUL JENNINGS VISITED HIS 307 00:07:41,533 --> 00:07:44,200 WIFE FANNY AT HOWARD PLACE THREE 308 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,633 MILES AWAY SO REGULARLY THAT HER 309 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:47,800 BROTHER LATER WROTE THAT UNTIL 310 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,900 HER DEATH, THEY LIVED TOGETHER 311 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:51,400 OVER 30 YEARS AS HUSBAND AND 312 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,666 WIFE. 313 00:07:52,666 --> 00:07:54,733 THE JENNINGS HAD FIVE CHILDREN 314 00:07:54,733 --> 00:07:55,400 TOGETHER. 315 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,566 >> BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PAUL 316 00:07:56,566 --> 00:07:58,100 JENNINGS, BORN HERE IN THE SOUTH 317 00:07:58,100 --> 00:07:59,233 YARD, ENDS UP BEING IN THE WHITE 318 00:07:59,233 --> 00:08:01,366 HOUSE WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE IS 319 00:08:01,366 --> 00:08:02,866 BURNED. 320 00:08:02,866 --> 00:08:03,733 HELPED SAVE THE PORTRAIT OF 321 00:08:03,733 --> 00:08:05,766 GEORGE WASHINGTON, GOES ON TO 322 00:08:05,766 --> 00:08:07,466 MADISON'S MANSERVANT, IS WITH 323 00:08:07,466 --> 00:08:09,700 MADISON WHEN HE DIES, WRITES THE 324 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:11,000 FIRST OF MEMOIR OF LIFE IN THE 325 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,833 WHITE HOUSE WHICH IS WHY WE KNOW 326 00:08:12,833 --> 00:08:13,666 WHAT MADISON SAID IT ON HIS 327 00:08:13,666 --> 00:08:16,100 DEATHBED, EARNS HIS OWN FREEDOM 328 00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:16,966 BY THE DINT OF HIS OWN EFFORT, 329 00:08:16,966 --> 00:08:18,166 NOT BECAUSE HE WAS FREED BY THE 330 00:08:18,166 --> 00:08:19,466 MADISONS, AND THEN GOES ON TO 331 00:08:19,466 --> 00:08:20,766 USE HIS LITERACY IN THE 332 00:08:20,766 --> 00:08:21,933 UNDERGROUND RAILROAD AND HELP 333 00:08:21,933 --> 00:08:23,666 ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE ESCAPE FROM 334 00:08:23,666 --> 00:08:24,466 ENSLAVEMENT. 335 00:08:24,466 --> 00:08:25,933 IT GOES ON AND ON. 336 00:08:25,933 --> 00:08:27,366 AND IT'S JUST SUCH, THAT'S OUR 337 00:08:27,366 --> 00:08:29,533 STORY TOO, WE GET TO OWN THAT. 338 00:08:29,533 --> 00:08:31,600 >> TERRI: AND ARCHEOLOGY PLAYS 339 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,566 SUCH A HUGE ROLE AND HAD PLAYED 340 00:08:34,566 --> 00:08:36,366 A VERY BIG ROLE IN PUTTING ALL 341 00:08:36,366 --> 00:08:38,400 OF THIS TOGETHER. 342 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,766 >> WE WERE VERY LUCKY THAT THE 343 00:08:39,766 --> 00:08:41,766 DUPONTS WHO BOUGHT THE PROPERTY 344 00:08:41,766 --> 00:08:44,166 IN 1901, THEY DIDN'T PLOW A LOT. 345 00:08:44,166 --> 00:08:45,466 AND THERE WERE SEVEN OWNERS 346 00:08:45,466 --> 00:08:47,100 BETWEEN THE DUPONTS AND THE 347 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:48,533 NATIONAL TRUST COMING ONTO THE 348 00:08:48,533 --> 00:08:50,466 PROPERTY AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY 349 00:08:50,466 --> 00:08:52,166 DISTURB VERY MUCH. 350 00:08:52,166 --> 00:08:53,433 SO EVERYWHERE YOU WALK AT 351 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:54,233 MONTPELIER, YOU CAN GO A FEW 352 00:08:54,233 --> 00:08:55,866 INCHES UNDER THE SOIL AND YOU 353 00:08:55,866 --> 00:08:57,500 CAN UNCOVER HISTORY OF 200 YEARS 354 00:08:57,500 --> 00:08:59,600 AGO AND IT HAS INFORMED US 355 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,833 TREMENDOUSLY. 356 00:09:00,833 --> 00:09:02,100 WE KNOW ABOUT THE RICHNESS OF 357 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:04,033 WHAT PEOPLE WERE WEARING, THE 358 00:09:04,033 --> 00:09:05,866 DOLLS THEY WERE PLAYING WITH, 359 00:09:05,866 --> 00:09:07,900 THE FOOD THEY HAD ACCESS TO, AND 360 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:09,633 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AS GREAT A 361 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:10,533 WRITTEN RECORD -- THOUGH THERE 362 00:09:10,533 --> 00:09:11,933 WAS QUITE A LOT OF LITERACY FROM 363 00:09:11,933 --> 00:09:13,133 PEOPLE WHO WERE ENSLAVED HERE AT 364 00:09:13,133 --> 00:09:15,133 MONTPELIER, BUT BECAUSE OF 365 00:09:15,133 --> 00:09:16,366 ARCHEOLOGY WE HAVE THESE OBJECTS 366 00:09:16,366 --> 00:09:18,233 THAT REALLY INFORM OUR STORY AND 367 00:09:18,233 --> 00:09:19,900 IT HELPS US AT ALL LEVELS AT 368 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:21,100 MONTPELIER. 369 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:22,400 >> TERRI: WELL, AND IN 2007 370 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,733 THERE WAS A LARGE RENOVATION 371 00:09:23,733 --> 00:09:25,533 WHERE THE HOUSE WAS REALLY 372 00:09:25,533 --> 00:09:27,500 CHANGED FROM HOW IT HAD BEEN 373 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:29,000 DURING THE DUPONT SCOTT YEARS 374 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 AND REALLY RETURNED TO THE STATE 375 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,366 THAT IT HAD BEEN ORIGINALLY AND 376 00:09:32,366 --> 00:09:33,900 ALSO ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE 377 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:35,400 WITH THAT SENSE WITH FURNITURE, 378 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,566 AND DECORATING. 379 00:09:37,566 --> 00:09:39,200 >> WELL, MONTPELIER, I THINK I 380 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,300 CAN SAY -- IS THE BEST HOUSE 381 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:43,500 RECONSTRUCTION AND RESTORATION 382 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:44,233 IN THE US IF NOT MAYBE THE 383 00:09:44,233 --> 00:09:45,233 WORLD. 384 00:09:45,233 --> 00:09:47,733 AND IT WAS A SCARY PROPOSITION 385 00:09:47,733 --> 00:09:50,066 BECAUSE IN 2000 WHEN THE 386 00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:51,733 MONTPELIER FOUNDATION TOOK OVER 387 00:09:51,733 --> 00:09:53,333 STEWARDSHIP OF THE SITE, YOU 388 00:09:53,333 --> 00:09:54,600 WOULDN'T SEE A BRICK HOUSE. 389 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,133 YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN A 55 ROOM 390 00:09:57,133 --> 00:09:58,200 PINK STUCCOED BUILDING 391 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,500 >> TERRI: RIGHT. 392 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:00,733 >> NO ONE KNEW IF THE MADISON 393 00:10:00,733 --> 00:10:03,200 HOME OF 22 ROOMS WAS SOMEWHERE 394 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,966 ENCAPSULATED IN ALL OF THOSE 395 00:10:04,966 --> 00:10:05,766 ADDITIONS. 396 00:10:05,766 --> 00:10:07,133 SO IT TOOK MANY, MANY YEARS AND 397 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:09,000 ALL KINDS OF EXPERTS AND IT WAS 398 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,133 REALLY A PRESIDENTIAL DETECTIVE 399 00:10:11,133 --> 00:10:12,766 STORY BUT, YES, LUCKILY THE 400 00:10:12,766 --> 00:10:14,700 MADISON HOME WAS BASICALLY THERE 401 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:15,966 AND MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE IS 402 00:10:15,966 --> 00:10:17,033 ORIGINAL. 403 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:18,566 IT WAS AN AMAZING STORY. 404 00:10:18,566 --> 00:10:19,666 SO WE'VE SPENT THE LAST COUPLE 405 00:10:19,666 --> 00:10:20,533 OF YEARS AND WITH THE HELP OF 406 00:10:20,533 --> 00:10:22,166 DAVID RUBENSTEIN REALLY 407 00:10:22,166 --> 00:10:23,000 RE-FURNISHING THE HOUSE AND SO 408 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,466 WHEN YOU WALK IN TODAY YOU'RE 409 00:10:24,466 --> 00:10:26,033 GOING TO SEE THE BRIGHT COLORS 410 00:10:26,033 --> 00:10:26,966 AND THE ARTWORK AND THE 411 00:10:26,966 --> 00:10:29,200 FURNITURE AND THE OBJECTS THAT 412 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,833 LET US TELL THIS VERY LIVELY -- 413 00:10:31,833 --> 00:10:33,133 I MEAN, THE MADISONS WOULD HAVE 414 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:33,733 A HUNDRED PEOPLE OVER FOR 415 00:10:33,733 --> 00:10:34,066 DINNER. 416 00:10:34,066 --> 00:10:35,666 YOU CAN'T ENVISION THAT IN AN 417 00:10:35,666 --> 00:10:36,933 EMPTY HOUSE. 418 00:10:36,933 --> 00:10:37,466 >> TERRI: RIGHT. 419 00:10:37,466 --> 00:10:38,266 >> WHAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO 420 00:10:38,266 --> 00:10:39,500 DO IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS 421 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:42,566 IS, OF COURSE, BRING IN TO FULL 422 00:10:42,566 --> 00:10:43,800 VIEW THE ENSLAVED COMMUNITY 423 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,600 STORY BY THE RECONSTRUCTION OF 424 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,866 THE BUILDINGS, THE DUPLEXES 425 00:10:46,866 --> 00:10:47,900 WHERE PEOPLE LIVED, THE 426 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:48,900 SMOKEHOUSES WHERE THEY WORKED. 427 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:50,266 WE STILL HAVE MORE AND MORE TO 428 00:10:50,266 --> 00:10:52,500 DO IN THAT AREA, BUT SUDDENLY IT 429 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:54,566 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SOME KIND OF 430 00:10:54,566 --> 00:10:55,333 COUNTRY CLUB. 431 00:10:55,333 --> 00:10:56,266 IT LOOKS LIKE A WORKING 432 00:10:56,266 --> 00:10:57,266 PLANTATION WHERE PEOPLE 433 00:10:57,266 --> 00:10:59,433 STRUGGLED AND LOVED AND LIVED, 434 00:10:59,433 --> 00:11:00,733 YOU CAN REALLY BEGIN TO WALK IN 435 00:11:00,733 --> 00:11:02,000 THEIR FOOTSTEPS NOW. 436 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,133 AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE REALLY 437 00:11:03,133 --> 00:11:04,266 FOCUSED ON IN THE LAST COUPLE OF 438 00:11:04,266 --> 00:11:05,100 YEARS. 439 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:06,800 >> TERRI: OKAY, AND SO WHAT'S IN 440 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,066 THE FUTURE FOR MONTPELIER? 441 00:11:09,066 --> 00:11:10,000 >> OH, THERE IS ALWAYS A LOT 442 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,166 MORE TO DO AT MONTPELIER BUT I 443 00:11:11,166 --> 00:11:13,466 THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, WE 444 00:11:13,466 --> 00:11:15,400 FEEL A VERY STRONG OBLIGATION TO 445 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,133 BRING PEOPLE CLOSER TO THEIR 446 00:11:17,133 --> 00:11:18,533 UNDERSTANDING OF THE U.S. 447 00:11:18,533 --> 00:11:20,233 CONSTITUTION, WHERE IT CAME 448 00:11:20,233 --> 00:11:22,600 FROM, WHAT THE TRADE-OFFS WERE, 449 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,866 HOW THE CONSTITUTION CODIFIED 450 00:11:23,866 --> 00:11:25,866 SLAVERY WITHOUT EVER MENTIONING 451 00:11:25,866 --> 00:11:27,033 IT AND KIND OF WHAT ARE 452 00:11:27,033 --> 00:11:29,000 RESPONSIBILITIES ARE TODAY AS 453 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,733 AMERICANS TO KIND OF CARRY OUR 454 00:11:30,733 --> 00:11:32,066 TRADITION FORWARD. 455 00:11:32,066 --> 00:11:33,533 SO WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING A 456 00:11:33,533 --> 00:11:35,266 LOT ON CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, OF 457 00:11:35,266 --> 00:11:37,233 COURSE, CONTINUING OUR TOURS, 458 00:11:37,233 --> 00:11:38,600 INVITING PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC 459 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,733 TO BE HERE, EXTENDING OUR TRAIL 460 00:11:40,733 --> 00:11:42,900 SYSTEM ON THE 2600 ACRES AND 461 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:44,333 WORKING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO 462 00:11:44,333 --> 00:11:45,466 REALLY CREATE A CLIMATE WHERE 463 00:11:45,466 --> 00:11:46,733 YOU CAN -- YEAH, YOU CAN COME 464 00:11:46,733 --> 00:11:48,200 LEARN ABOUT HISTORY, AND YOU CAN 465 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,400 DIG IN THE SOIL, BUT YOU CAN 466 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,766 HAVE A GLASS OF WINE MAYBE DOWN 467 00:11:50,766 --> 00:11:52,700 IN BARBOURSVILLE AND POP IN TO 468 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:53,866 ORANGE, THE TOWN OF ORANGE FOR A 469 00:11:53,866 --> 00:11:55,366 LITTLE BIT OF SHOPPING, WE WANT 470 00:11:55,366 --> 00:11:56,500 TO BE PART OF THIS INCLUSIVE 471 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:58,200 EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY. 472 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,733 >> YESTERDAY I HAD A LITTLE 473 00:11:59,733 --> 00:12:01,566 FIFTH GRADER, HE WAS ABOUT 10, 474 00:12:01,566 --> 00:12:02,900 FAMILY. 475 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:04,966 AND HE CAME OUT OF THE HOUSE 476 00:12:04,966 --> 00:12:07,700 YESTERDAY AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, 477 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:11,833 I KNOW A LOT ABOUT JAMES MADISON 478 00:12:11,833 --> 00:12:14,433 BUT I LEARNED A LOT MORE. 479 00:12:14,433 --> 00:12:16,033 I'M SO GLAD I CAME. 480 00:12:16,033 --> 00:12:16,933 THAT WAS JUST -- THAT'S WHY I'M 481 00:12:16,933 --> 00:12:18,133 HERE. 482 00:12:18,133 --> 00:12:18,966 THAT'S WHY I THINK WE'RE ALL 483 00:12:18,966 --> 00:12:22,866 HERE IS FOR MOMENTS LIKE THAT.