1 00:00:01,468 --> 00:00:03,269 >>Starting a business from scratch it's been rough. 2 00:00:03,269 --> 00:00:04,871 It's nothing easy about it. 3 00:00:04,871 --> 00:00:06,106 You think of something as simple as 4 00:00:06,106 --> 00:00:07,907 being able to drive a cab to put stickers 5 00:00:07,907 --> 00:00:09,709 and a light on is real simple but it's not, 6 00:00:09,709 --> 00:00:11,378 but it's well worth it. 7 00:00:11,378 --> 00:00:14,080 >>When you talk about entrepreneurship and innovation 8 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,717 in Charlottesville, our guest today always comes to mind. 9 00:00:17,717 --> 00:00:20,053 Join us as we catch up with Toan Nguyen, 10 00:00:20,053 --> 00:00:23,156 when the co-founder of three businesses in the area 11 00:00:23,156 --> 00:00:25,625 that focus on bringing the community together 12 00:00:25,625 --> 00:00:29,329 to network, grow and help fight poverty. 13 00:00:29,329 --> 00:00:30,330 Come on. 14 00:00:33,199 --> 00:00:35,568 So tell us about C'ville Coffee. 15 00:00:35,568 --> 00:00:37,570 This story behind C'ville Coffee. 16 00:00:37,570 --> 00:00:40,974 You founded this with your wife in 2000. 17 00:00:40,974 --> 00:00:42,909 >>Yes, Terri, in the year 2000, 18 00:00:42,909 --> 00:00:47,447 we founded this because we had Shelf Life, 19 00:00:47,447 --> 00:00:52,419 which is a furniture design and manufacturing company. 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,488 So we got this big space, 21 00:00:55,488 --> 00:01:00,427 huge space for the furniture store. 22 00:01:01,594 --> 00:01:03,163 And my daughter who was eight at the time, 23 00:01:03,163 --> 00:01:04,531 her name is Hattie, 24 00:01:04,531 --> 00:01:05,799 she had this great idea. 25 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:08,601 She said, Dad, why don't you have a coffee shop 26 00:01:08,601 --> 00:01:11,938 and smoothie bar inside Shelf Life, 27 00:01:11,938 --> 00:01:15,575 because that way people can come in and get a cup of coffee, 28 00:01:15,575 --> 00:01:18,978 and then sit at your table and look at your shelf. 29 00:01:18,978 --> 00:01:21,281 And so we thought, great idea! 30 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:22,682 >>Yeah, that's very great. 31 00:01:22,682 --> 00:01:24,384 >>You know brilliant. 32 00:01:24,384 --> 00:01:25,218 So we did. 33 00:01:25,218 --> 00:01:27,387 We have a little room, 34 00:01:27,387 --> 00:01:31,591 where you come in to C'ville Coffee now. 35 00:01:31,591 --> 00:01:35,195 And so that was the genesis of C'ville Coffee. 36 00:01:35,195 --> 00:01:36,930 >>So, and let's talk about C'ville Coffee, 37 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:40,166 because it is much more than a coffee shop, 38 00:01:40,166 --> 00:01:42,435 you know it's a hub. 39 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:44,671 Talk about everything that goes on here. 40 00:01:44,671 --> 00:01:48,174 >>Well, we try to promote a place 41 00:01:48,174 --> 00:01:51,010 where people really come together, 42 00:01:51,010 --> 00:01:54,214 make connection to each other. 43 00:01:54,214 --> 00:01:56,583 And that's the great thing about Charlottesville 44 00:01:56,583 --> 00:01:58,885 is that there's so much connection. 45 00:01:58,885 --> 00:02:01,221 >>Yeah >>There's so much relationship 46 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:03,356 and people helping one another. 47 00:02:03,356 --> 00:02:04,524 >>Yeah. 48 00:02:04,524 --> 00:02:07,127 So that is a perfect segue to CIC. 49 00:02:08,895 --> 00:02:11,631 This is another company that you helped to co-found. 50 00:02:11,631 --> 00:02:14,400 It's a non-profit that you are one of the co-founders of, 51 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,238 and it started in a meeting here, did it not? 52 00:02:18,238 --> 00:02:19,072 >>Right >>Talk about it. 53 00:02:19,072 --> 00:02:20,140 Talk about what it is. 54 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:22,342 So, CIC, which stands for 55 00:02:22,342 --> 00:02:23,843 Community Investment Collaborative, 56 00:02:23,843 --> 00:02:28,715 is a non-profit that helps anybody who has a dream 57 00:02:30,083 --> 00:02:33,052 of owning their own business, to get it going. 58 00:02:33,052 --> 00:02:35,788 And how we do that is we put them through 59 00:02:35,788 --> 00:02:40,393 a 17 week course that really breaks down. 60 00:02:40,393 --> 00:02:44,697 It's basically a mini business plan course. 61 00:02:44,697 --> 00:02:47,233 And then we lend them money, 62 00:02:47,233 --> 00:02:50,403 a micro loan from 5,000 to $35,000. 63 00:02:50,403 --> 00:02:51,371 >>Okay. 64 00:02:51,371 --> 00:02:52,639 >>And then we mentor them. 65 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,008 And then through the whole process, 66 00:02:55,008 --> 00:02:58,211 we give them access to a network of people 67 00:02:58,211 --> 00:03:00,113 who would really help them 68 00:03:00,113 --> 00:03:04,617 like a photographer, accountants, lawyers 69 00:03:04,617 --> 00:03:06,719 and most importantly customers 70 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:09,622 who would really want to support our graduates. 71 00:03:09,622 --> 00:03:11,991 >>And what inspired it? 72 00:03:11,991 --> 00:03:14,727 What inspired you to start this? 73 00:03:14,727 --> 00:03:16,129 >>At that time, 74 00:03:16,129 --> 00:03:17,864 I was going through Leadership Charlottesville. 75 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:19,399 And Leadership Charlottesville, 76 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:22,802 it's a wonderful program run by the Chamber. 77 00:03:22,802 --> 00:03:24,037 >>Right. 78 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:26,806 >>And what it does is really expose you to 79 00:03:26,806 --> 00:03:30,143 how the town works. 80 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:32,912 You know from the judicial system, to the arts, 81 00:03:32,912 --> 00:03:35,048 to education, to business. 82 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:36,783 And then at that exact same time, 83 00:03:36,783 --> 00:03:39,619 I was involved with Dialogue on Race. 84 00:03:39,619 --> 00:03:40,853 >>Right. 85 00:03:40,853 --> 00:03:42,222 >>And through that, that's when I realized 86 00:03:42,222 --> 00:03:46,626 that there's a segment of the population 87 00:03:46,626 --> 00:03:49,562 who are really hurting. 88 00:03:49,562 --> 00:03:52,599 Who don't have the same access to capital, 89 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,134 to education, to a network. 90 00:03:55,134 --> 00:03:58,705 But yet who have this wonderful dreams 91 00:03:58,705 --> 00:04:02,675 and smarts and ambition, 92 00:04:02,675 --> 00:04:04,677 but they just need a little push. 93 00:04:04,677 --> 00:04:08,114 >>My inspiration for CIC was simply just getting a cab ride 94 00:04:08,114 --> 00:04:11,517 from another company when I had a little car trouble. 95 00:04:11,517 --> 00:04:13,086 And I weren't treated too good. 96 00:04:13,086 --> 00:04:15,221 They were handling my wheelchair a little rough. 97 00:04:15,221 --> 00:04:16,489 They didn't treat me to well. 98 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:17,957 So that put me in the mind frame of, 99 00:04:17,957 --> 00:04:19,425 "how do they do other people?" 100 00:04:19,425 --> 00:04:22,528 I'm a little more strong minded or a little more able bodied 101 00:04:22,528 --> 00:04:23,930 but what about the people who aren't 102 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:25,164 or really can't handle it? 103 00:04:25,164 --> 00:04:26,733 And my mind just started wondering 104 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:28,268 about how I could help disabled 105 00:04:28,268 --> 00:04:31,104 or the handicapped people as well as elderly 106 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:34,474 be transported in a nicer and timely fashion 107 00:04:34,474 --> 00:04:36,409 and be treated like first class citizens. 108 00:04:36,409 --> 00:04:38,478 And where I am right now, 109 00:04:38,478 --> 00:04:40,713 CIC has brought me to be a better person 110 00:04:40,713 --> 00:04:43,316 as a father, as a community leader, 111 00:04:43,316 --> 00:04:46,152 as someone who can actually render a service, 112 00:04:46,152 --> 00:04:47,987 and soon I'll be offering employment. 113 00:04:47,987 --> 00:04:50,390 So, CIC helped me with all of those things. 114 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:53,092 >>It just made me concentrate on my business a little more 115 00:04:53,092 --> 00:04:55,628 and try to organize things a little better. 116 00:04:55,628 --> 00:04:57,163 The roughest part of my job was going out 117 00:04:57,163 --> 00:04:59,532 and finding more jobs. 118 00:04:59,532 --> 00:05:02,302 Whereas while I'm working it's not like I really have time 119 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:04,404 to be going off and finding another jobs 120 00:05:04,404 --> 00:05:07,106 and by Toan doing that part of the footwork, 121 00:05:07,106 --> 00:05:08,941 it's helped out quite a bit with us 122 00:05:08,941 --> 00:05:11,311 to where we can just tackle the jobs 123 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:13,079 and he is out looking for them 124 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:15,248 and it keeps the cycle going. 125 00:05:15,248 --> 00:05:18,017 >>I have known Toan for quite a while 126 00:05:18,017 --> 00:05:19,919 and I was in C'ville coffeeú 127 00:05:19,919 --> 00:05:21,788 and told him about my new venture 128 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:23,389 that I was starting a business 129 00:05:23,389 --> 00:05:27,360 making my mother's seasoned salt called Peg Salt, 130 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,197 and he said, "We have this entrepreneur training 131 00:05:31,197 --> 00:05:33,232 "and you should really apply." 132 00:05:33,232 --> 00:05:37,170 And it was a great curriculum, wonderful networking 133 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:39,138 the class supported each other. 134 00:05:39,138 --> 00:05:42,742 And I couldn't have asked for like a better start 135 00:05:42,742 --> 00:05:44,210 in terms of education, 136 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:47,814 because it really gave me a lot in terms of getting underway 137 00:05:47,814 --> 00:05:49,782 and asking the right people the kind of things 138 00:05:49,782 --> 00:05:52,051 I really needed to know. 139 00:05:52,051 --> 00:05:54,554 >>It's not whether you open a business or not. 140 00:05:54,554 --> 00:05:57,523 That's not the whole essence of CIC. 141 00:05:57,523 --> 00:05:59,759 The whole essence of CIC is the journey. 142 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:00,560 >>Yeah. 143 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,862 >>Of the self discovery. 144 00:06:02,862 --> 00:06:04,997 Whether it makes sense for you or not. 145 00:06:04,997 --> 00:06:08,101 Because we rather you learn it now, 146 00:06:08,101 --> 00:06:09,969 than put your life savings 147 00:06:09,969 --> 00:06:14,674 and two or three years into a business and have it fail. 148 00:06:14,674 --> 00:06:17,577 >>So then the perfect follow up is 149 00:06:17,577 --> 00:06:19,912 what you're doing with C'ville Central, 150 00:06:19,912 --> 00:06:21,414 which is another business 151 00:06:21,414 --> 00:06:23,416 that you co-founded with your wife, Betsy Patrick. 152 00:06:23,416 --> 00:06:27,153 Tell us about that and how they flow together, these two. 153 00:06:27,153 --> 00:06:29,422 >>A year into CIC she asked me, 154 00:06:29,422 --> 00:06:33,426 so, Toan, what happened to all these graduates 155 00:06:33,426 --> 00:06:35,194 that started their own business. 156 00:06:35,194 --> 00:06:37,430 How do you, how do you help them stay in business? 157 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:39,932 And that's when we founded C'ville Central. 158 00:06:39,932 --> 00:06:41,467 We go out, get business, 159 00:06:41,467 --> 00:06:45,238 and sub it out to small, minority businesses. 160 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:50,243 We have landscaping, painting, contracting and cleaning. 161 00:06:51,677 --> 00:06:55,114 >>C'ville Central kicks it off and does the follow-up. 162 00:06:55,114 --> 00:06:58,284 Did we provide what you need to the customers? 163 00:06:58,284 --> 00:07:02,622 So make sure that all the service providers are fulfilling 164 00:07:02,622 --> 00:07:05,191 what people are asking them to do 165 00:07:05,191 --> 00:07:09,295 and doing a good job so that everybody's happy and-- 166 00:07:09,295 --> 00:07:11,431 >>You're hitting on a very important point, 167 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:13,332 because everybody in Charlottesville, 168 00:07:13,332 --> 00:07:18,004 really wants to support the small local person. 169 00:07:18,004 --> 00:07:20,606 We all have that want to do that. 170 00:07:20,606 --> 00:07:25,044 But there's two things that usually falls short on. 171 00:07:26,412 --> 00:07:28,481 One is communication. 172 00:07:28,481 --> 00:07:29,882 >>Okay. 173 00:07:29,882 --> 00:07:32,051 >>It's hard to communicate a lot of time 174 00:07:32,051 --> 00:07:33,986 with a small contractor. 175 00:07:33,986 --> 00:07:36,222 And two is accountability. 176 00:07:36,222 --> 00:07:38,758 What happens if that person didn't do a good job? 177 00:07:38,758 --> 00:07:40,960 Who do you call? >>Right. 178 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,428 >>And so at C'ville Central, 179 00:07:42,428 --> 00:07:46,866 we go out of the way to communicate what's going on. 180 00:07:46,866 --> 00:07:49,535 And then, if he or she doesn't do a good job, 181 00:07:49,535 --> 00:07:53,606 we're accountable for to the customer. 182 00:07:53,606 --> 00:07:56,909 >>So all this work you've been doing is gaining state 183 00:07:56,909 --> 00:07:58,911 and national attention. 184 00:07:58,911 --> 00:08:01,447 In 2013, Governor McDonnell, 185 00:08:01,447 --> 00:08:05,751 invited you to be on innovation panels and summits. 186 00:08:05,751 --> 00:08:07,553 The White House invited you 187 00:08:07,553 --> 00:08:11,090 as one of twelve small businesses in the country. 188 00:08:11,090 --> 00:08:12,758 And then locally. 189 00:08:12,758 --> 00:08:15,027 >>Yes, in the year 2013, 190 00:08:15,027 --> 00:08:20,032 I won the Chamber Award for Volunteer of the Year. 191 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,004 Year 2013, CIC won the Civic Award which stands for 192 00:08:25,004 --> 00:08:29,208 Charlottesville Business Innovation Council Award 193 00:08:29,208 --> 00:08:30,710 for community. 194 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:35,715 And then, I also won the Entrepreneur of the Year Award. 195 00:08:36,782 --> 00:08:38,718 >>That's pretty exciting. 196 00:08:38,718 --> 00:08:42,622 >>Yeah, but you know, I did not do just to win awards. 197 00:08:42,622 --> 00:08:44,056 Rest assured 198 00:08:44,056 --> 00:08:45,925 >>I know and that's what I wanna ask you. 199 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:47,126 All this work that you're doing 200 00:08:47,126 --> 00:08:50,029 is clearly really important to you, why? 201 00:08:50,029 --> 00:08:53,733 >>It has to do with my father's legacy. 202 00:08:53,733 --> 00:08:57,069 And he was a very important person in my life. 203 00:08:57,069 --> 00:08:59,805 He was a great role model to me. 204 00:08:59,805 --> 00:09:04,310 And his whole life was dedicated to his community 205 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:06,612 and his country, which is Vietnam. 206 00:09:06,612 --> 00:09:11,617 So my goal in life was to go back to Vietnam, 207 00:09:12,952 --> 00:09:15,221 and help rebuild Vietnam, literally rebuild. 208 00:09:15,221 --> 00:09:19,392 And I went to architecture school here at UVA. 209 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:21,928 And I went to the Darden Business School. 210 00:09:21,928 --> 00:09:24,630 And then that's how I would go back 211 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:27,099 and help Vietnam rebuild. 212 00:09:27,099 --> 00:09:30,169 But things didn't happen that way. 213 00:09:31,170 --> 00:09:32,905 We came back to Charlottesville 214 00:09:32,905 --> 00:09:37,043 because we wanted to be closer to family. 215 00:09:37,043 --> 00:09:40,479 And so I'm really glad we did that. 216 00:09:40,479 --> 00:09:44,016 But after my daughter graduated from high school, 217 00:09:44,016 --> 00:09:45,818 I suddenly realized, 218 00:09:45,818 --> 00:09:49,622 I don't have to go back to Vietnam to help my community. 219 00:09:49,622 --> 00:09:52,625 Charlottesville now is my community. 220 00:09:52,625 --> 00:09:54,060 >>Yeah. 221 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:56,395 >>And so that's the moment of epiphany for me, 222 00:09:56,395 --> 00:09:59,231 it's like I can do just right here. 223 00:09:59,231 --> 00:10:01,734 >>And it also led to the Jeffersonian Dinners 224 00:10:01,734 --> 00:10:02,969 that you've been hosting. 225 00:10:02,969 --> 00:10:04,470 Tell us about those. 226 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:08,507 >>Yes, so, the Jeffersonian Dinner is a wonderful way 227 00:10:08,507 --> 00:10:11,177 to really connect with people. 228 00:10:11,177 --> 00:10:14,413 And, it's because we've all gone 229 00:10:18,351 --> 00:10:21,053 to cocktail hours and all that. 230 00:10:21,053 --> 00:10:25,157 And there you get a very small connection, 231 00:10:25,157 --> 00:10:27,393 I mean, maybe a minute or two and may somebody. 232 00:10:27,393 --> 00:10:28,227 >>Right. 233 00:10:29,595 --> 00:10:33,466 And so Jeffersonian Dinners is eight to 10 people 234 00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:35,001 with 20 different backgrounds. 235 00:10:35,001 --> 00:10:37,903 We've musicians, we've John Dearth sitting right here, 236 00:10:37,903 --> 00:10:41,307 to Kathy Galvin who's our city counselor, 237 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:46,278 to writers, to editors, to business people. 238 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,852 So, a whole cross section of our community get together 239 00:10:54,086 --> 00:10:57,657 and really discuss and sharing ideas. 240 00:10:57,657 --> 00:10:59,625 (plate clangs) 241 00:10:59,625 --> 00:11:00,559 Dig in. 242 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,696 (noise from guests drowns Toan) 243 00:11:03,696 --> 00:11:05,231 When I decided to join Leadership Charlottesville 244 00:11:05,231 --> 00:11:06,766 Betsy was always wondering, it's like 245 00:11:06,766 --> 00:11:09,735 "Why are you doing it? I mean you know everybody," 246 00:11:09,735 --> 00:11:13,372 and my answer is like, yes, I know them individually, 247 00:11:13,372 --> 00:11:15,708 but I have no idea how they fit 248 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:20,446 into the working of our town. 249 00:11:20,446 --> 00:11:25,251 >>For me, I was very non-profit-centric 250 00:11:25,251 --> 00:11:27,787 and just hadn't thought about transportation 251 00:11:27,787 --> 00:11:29,021 and-- 252 00:11:29,021 --> 00:11:33,092 (guests interrupt and drowns her ) 253 00:11:35,428 --> 00:11:36,929 >>Speaking of that, 254 00:11:36,929 --> 00:11:41,033 I got into (mumbles) with a very specific purpose 255 00:11:41,033 --> 00:11:43,969 from the start of the school division 256 00:11:43,969 --> 00:11:47,139 to say we need to have business involved with education. 257 00:11:47,139 --> 00:11:48,107 (guests agrees) 258 00:11:48,107 --> 00:11:50,109 >>What else do you have in mind? 259 00:11:50,109 --> 00:11:52,211 (Toan and Terri laughs) 260 00:11:52,211 --> 00:11:53,913 >>We'll see. 261 00:11:53,913 --> 00:11:58,384 C'ville Central it's still in its infancy. 262 00:11:58,384 --> 00:11:59,652 (upbeat music) I envision, 263 00:11:59,652 --> 00:12:02,221 Betsy and I, we have great plans. 264 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:07,760 And it's a concept that can grow a lot, 265 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,765 and can employ a lot of people and our goal is to do that. 266 00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:15,334 Is to truly be a hub, 267 00:12:15,334 --> 00:12:19,872 and distribute the wealth of our community to everybody. 268 00:12:19,872 --> 00:12:21,474 >>I like that. 269 00:12:21,474 --> 00:12:22,308 Thank you. 270 00:12:22,308 --> 00:12:23,576 >>Thank you, Terri. 271 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:26,145 (upbeat music)