WEBVTT 00:00.767 --> 00:01.935 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% (upbeat music) 00:01.935 --> 00:04.170 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >>This is like blowing up a balloon. 00:04.170 --> 00:06.740 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Use your cheeks to push the air. 00:06.740 --> 00:08.641 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Push, yeah, see, look, keep going. 00:08.641 --> 00:09.876 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Okay, stop, stop. 00:13.680 --> 00:15.448 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Okay, go ahead and start again. 00:15.448 --> 00:16.282 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Stop, stop. 00:16.282 --> 00:17.517 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Whoa, stop, stop, stop. 00:17.517 --> 00:19.019 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (Charles laughing) 00:19.019 --> 00:19.853 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Lovely. 00:21.054 --> 00:23.156 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >>Our guest today has close to three decades 00:23.156 --> 00:26.559 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% of experience working in glass, color and light. 00:26.559 --> 00:30.363 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Join us as we visit with master glass blower, Charles Hall. 00:30.363 --> 00:31.765 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Come on. 00:31.765 --> 00:34.334 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (upbeat music) 00:35.835 --> 00:39.005 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Charles, what inspired you to become a master glass blower? 00:39.005 --> 00:42.075 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Ooh, master, that's very high praise. 00:42.075 --> 00:42.976 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>But it's true. 00:42.976 --> 00:43.943 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Well, thank you. 00:45.311 --> 00:46.212 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Gosh, I don't know. 00:48.381 --> 00:49.649 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I've done it for so long 00:49.649 --> 00:51.117 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I've kind of forgotten the beginning of it. 00:51.117 --> 00:53.286 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I just know that I really love doing it. 00:53.286 --> 00:54.621 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It's amazing material. 00:54.621 --> 00:58.458 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's an incredible thing to be able to work with. 00:58.458 --> 01:00.427 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>And you started in metal, right? 01:00.427 --> 01:01.694 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You went to school- >>Yeah I did- 01:01.694 --> 01:02.695 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>started in metal- 01:02.695 --> 01:04.330 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% >>I did metals. 01:04.330 --> 01:06.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I've done pretty much all different kinds of metals 01:06.533 --> 01:11.538 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% from machining to casting, forging, jewelry making. 01:12.405 --> 01:15.942 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And actually, in hindsight, 01:15.942 --> 01:18.344 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I think it was a really good way to start 01:18.344 --> 01:22.849 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% into this process because it gave me a lot 01:22.849 --> 01:27.120 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of information about how temperature affects things 01:27.120 --> 01:29.155 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% which is so important with this. 01:29.155 --> 01:31.958 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so I kinda had a heads up with it before I got into it. 01:31.958 --> 01:34.060 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Well, let's talk about your work. 01:34.060 --> 01:37.197 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If someone asked you to describe your work, 01:37.197 --> 01:38.598 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% what would you say? 01:38.598 --> 01:40.767 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>I'm not a big mold-blown person. 01:40.767 --> 01:44.237 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I really love the material itself, 01:44.237 --> 01:48.875 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so I'm working with it while it's working itself. 01:48.875 --> 01:49.843 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (Charles laughing) 01:49.843 --> 01:51.311 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I guess it's a way to say it. 01:51.311 --> 01:53.613 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so it's just been a process of learning to let go, 01:53.613 --> 01:55.782 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% or learning how to get something 01:55.782 --> 01:59.018 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to happen without touching it, 01:59.018 --> 02:00.720 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% letting it do what it wants to do. 02:00.720 --> 02:02.288 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>So how do you do that? 02:02.288 --> 02:04.124 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>It just takes practice. 02:04.124 --> 02:06.493 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I wouldn't even know how to describe it. 02:06.493 --> 02:08.561 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% You wanna touch something, 02:08.561 --> 02:10.663 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but if you don't, what happens? 02:10.663 --> 02:12.832 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Oh, look at that. 02:12.832 --> 02:14.701 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's a process of discovery. 02:14.701 --> 02:16.569 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It's a lovely thing. 02:16.569 --> 02:18.037 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Let's talk about the process. 02:18.037 --> 02:19.739 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Take us through it. 02:19.739 --> 02:22.408 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>This is a furnace which holds the glass. 02:22.408 --> 02:24.711 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>All that wet- >>There's a small tub 02:24.711 --> 02:27.747 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in there that holds about 80 pounds of glass. 02:27.747 --> 02:31.151 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Glass itself is basically dirt. 02:31.151 --> 02:36.156 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's the prettiest dirt on the planet, and it's sand. 02:37.357 --> 02:38.725 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% what allows me to be able to melt it 02:38.725 --> 02:43.163 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is the formulation includes fluxes from metal. 02:44.264 --> 02:45.465 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We have to use flux to do welding. 02:45.465 --> 02:47.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Flux melts at a very low temperature. 02:47.800 --> 02:50.937 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% When it melts, it turns really acidic 02:50.937 --> 02:52.438 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and it eats the silica. 02:52.438 --> 02:54.507 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So while you think it's melting sand, 02:54.507 --> 02:57.577 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it's really the flux is eating the silica and the solution. 02:57.577 --> 03:00.513 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so it happens at 2,300 degrees, something like that. 03:01.881 --> 03:03.049 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Can I say this story now? 03:03.049 --> 03:04.551 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Yes. >>That temperature 03:04.551 --> 03:06.019 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is hot enough to cook a fully frozen jumbo shrimp 03:06.019 --> 03:08.521 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in a second and a half but it can't be a straight second 03:08.521 --> 03:10.123 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and a half because that would explode it. 03:10.123 --> 03:13.960 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it has to go in, out, in, out, in, out, done. 03:13.960 --> 03:15.261 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 03:15.261 --> 03:16.563 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>And we put beef tips in here too. 03:16.563 --> 03:17.564 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (Terri laughing) 03:17.564 --> 03:18.831 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>We did. 03:18.831 --> 03:19.532 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% >>I believe- >>They take like 15 seconds. 03:19.532 --> 03:20.366 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% They're lovely. 03:20.366 --> 03:21.201 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% It's meat candy. 03:21.201 --> 03:22.635 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% It's so good. 03:22.635 --> 03:23.836 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Okay, so you- >>Gather the glass. 03:23.836 --> 03:25.071 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Gather the glass. 03:25.071 --> 03:26.573 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Glass comes out. 03:26.573 --> 03:28.341 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Hopefully I've made some sort of decision 03:28.341 --> 03:29.943 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in my head before I start working 03:29.943 --> 03:32.845 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so I know what it is that at least I'm trying to make. 03:32.845 --> 03:34.113 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So my colors will be ready. 03:34.113 --> 03:36.115 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I'll have other tools out that I need, 03:36.115 --> 03:38.117 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but then I love working with color. 03:38.117 --> 03:41.621 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think glass and color are just fabulous together. 03:43.089 --> 03:46.826 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So I color things, and then I'm adding things in places, 03:46.826 --> 03:51.831 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but it then is going to move the way it wants to move 03:52.699 --> 03:53.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% because of the things I've put 03:53.933 --> 03:55.301 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in the places that I've put them. 03:55.301 --> 03:56.269 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Because of the balance. 03:56.269 --> 03:57.370 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Because of the balance, 03:57.370 --> 03:59.806 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and because of the extra masses. 03:59.806 --> 04:03.209 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Temperature, it causes movement in certain directions, 04:03.209 --> 04:05.979 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but I just let it do its movement as much as I can. 04:05.979 --> 04:09.249 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm not pulling it out or forcing it to do that. 04:09.249 --> 04:13.519 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so I think my work retains a lot of fluidity, 04:13.519 --> 04:15.688 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% retains a lot of the properties 04:15.688 --> 04:19.392 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that the glass has when it's molten, and I really like that. 04:20.827 --> 04:22.629 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I've done a lot of ocean work, 04:22.629 --> 04:25.498 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and I think my glass lends itself to looking like 04:25.498 --> 04:27.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's grown on the bottom of the ocean. 04:27.700 --> 04:32.705 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It has a very, very alive feeling. 04:34.140 --> 04:35.575 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% >>And then you take it out of here and you spin it. 04:35.575 --> 04:37.243 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% You spin it. 04:37.243 --> 04:38.778 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>You have to keep moving it. 04:38.778 --> 04:42.115 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's liquid properties, so it is affected by gravity. 04:42.115 --> 04:44.651 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's affected by centrifugal force, 04:44.651 --> 04:49.656 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% so any type of movement like this is going to elongate it. 04:50.823 --> 04:52.859 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Any movement that goes like this has a tendency 04:52.859 --> 04:54.394 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% to throw it out. 04:54.394 --> 04:55.862 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Then hold it up and down, 04:55.862 --> 04:58.631 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it's going to try to fold in on itself and fall. 05:00.066 --> 05:03.803 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% All of those are viable ways to get the glass to move. 05:05.204 --> 05:07.607 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And sometimes it's as simple as just stopping turning 05:07.607 --> 05:08.441 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and letting it do something. 05:08.441 --> 05:09.275 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>Right, right. 05:11.844 --> 05:13.579 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Pretty much every movement you do 05:13.579 --> 05:15.281 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% is going to have some effect on it. 05:15.281 --> 05:16.916 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>The whole time you're working, 05:16.916 --> 05:20.853 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you continually put it back into, what do you call that? 05:20.853 --> 05:24.057 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% >>It's called a glory hole because the minute you pull it 05:24.057 --> 05:26.326 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% out of the furnace, it's starting to cool. 05:26.326 --> 05:31.230 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% As it cools, it loses its softness, becomes hard, 05:31.230 --> 05:33.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and if you want to keep working, you'd have to reheat it. 05:33.966 --> 05:35.468 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>So you can experiment, 05:35.468 --> 05:37.270 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but you have to be careful because it is very hot. 05:37.270 --> 05:39.639 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Like for example, how many times, 05:39.639 --> 05:41.574 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% can you even count how many times you've been burned or- 05:41.574 --> 05:43.476 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>I couldn't even tell you. 05:43.476 --> 05:45.044 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>You still have your eyebrows, I see. 05:45.044 --> 05:46.446 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Yeah, sometimes. 05:46.446 --> 05:47.980 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (Terri laughing) 05:47.980 --> 05:51.284 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If you're counting your burns, you might as well not bother. 05:51.284 --> 05:52.118 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Right. 05:53.252 --> 05:54.187 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>It's gonna happen. 05:54.187 --> 05:55.021 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% You're gonna get cut. 05:55.021 --> 05:56.089 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% You're gonna get burned. 05:57.357 --> 05:58.191 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I want to be here. 05:58.191 --> 05:59.258 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I like doing this stuff. 06:00.993 --> 06:02.795 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I've never even considered the time. 06:04.197 --> 06:04.997 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I know how long I've done it but it's not like- 06:04.997 --> 06:06.099 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Yeah, how long? 06:06.099 --> 06:06.933 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>28 years. 06:06.933 --> 06:08.568 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Yeah, 28 years- 06:08.568 --> 06:12.705 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% >>I don't say like, oh, 28 years, you know, like poor thing. 06:12.705 --> 06:15.174 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% >>Let's go back to talking about the creativity of it 06:15.174 --> 06:16.676 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and how you put it all together. 06:16.676 --> 06:19.645 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So talk about the variety of pieces that you make. 06:19.645 --> 06:22.782 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Well, it's kind of large. 06:22.782 --> 06:24.584 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Just rattle off a handful. 06:24.584 --> 06:26.219 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% So conch shells, vases- 06:26.219 --> 06:29.188 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% >>Well, vases, bowls, ornaments, all that basic stuff, 06:29.188 --> 06:31.591 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but then I started making fish. 06:32.525 --> 06:35.061 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I've made coral, trumpets- 06:35.061 --> 06:36.763 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% (Charles making trumpet sound) 06:36.763 --> 06:37.997 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (Charles laughing) 06:37.997 --> 06:39.632 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Okay, so that sounds difficult. 06:39.632 --> 06:42.435 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% So just talk about the difficulty, the degree of difficulty. 06:42.435 --> 06:43.903 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So you'll make an ornament 06:43.903 --> 06:46.005 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which is probably one of the simpler things you make- 06:46.005 --> 06:48.908 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>But still takes a little bit. 06:50.309 --> 06:52.044 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think an ornament, it probably took me four years 06:52.044 --> 06:53.846 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to be able to make a good ornament. 06:55.581 --> 06:57.717 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This happens a lot, people come into the shop, 06:57.717 --> 06:59.719 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they see me work, and they're going, wow, that's so cool, 06:59.719 --> 07:00.987 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I want to do this, and then they try it, 07:00.987 --> 07:02.155 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they're like, man, this is hard. 07:02.155 --> 07:02.989 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (Terri laughing) 07:02.989 --> 07:04.357 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I'm like, yeah, it is. 07:04.357 --> 07:05.992 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% There have been so many days 07:05.992 --> 07:07.293 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% where I've walked on broken glass. 07:07.293 --> 07:08.728 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% You have no idea. 07:08.728 --> 07:10.963 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so many times where I blow something 07:10.963 --> 07:11.898 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and it goes (blowing sound), 07:11.898 --> 07:13.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and it's just something weird. 07:15.134 --> 07:19.439 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's really intentional, and part of that process 07:19.439 --> 07:21.274 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% was learning how not to do things. 07:21.274 --> 07:22.508 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Right. >>You can be, oh- 07:22.508 --> 07:24.610 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% You can totally mold something, 07:24.610 --> 07:26.345 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but being able to do it free in the air 07:26.345 --> 07:28.247 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and letting it do what it wants to do, 07:29.515 --> 07:30.917 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% it looks better to me, 07:30.917 --> 07:35.922 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but learning how to do that, it takes time. 07:37.557 --> 07:40.326 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% People say, how long did it take you to make that piece? 07:40.326 --> 07:41.661 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And I've literally gotten to the point 07:41.661 --> 07:44.764 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% where I say 28 years (laughing) 07:44.764 --> 07:47.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because I wouldn't have been able to make it 07:47.166 --> 07:49.502 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% if I hadn't been doing this work for that long. 07:53.072 --> 07:56.943 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>So you were 2014 State Ambassador of Glass. 07:56.943 --> 07:58.544 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Tell us about that. 07:58.544 --> 08:02.715 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >>I was chosen by the Artisan Center of Virginia, 08:02.715 --> 08:05.651 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and I'm not quite sure what all the responsibilities are, 08:05.651 --> 08:07.119 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% but the Artisan Center, I've been involved 08:07.119 --> 08:09.822 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% with them for, I don't know, five, six, seven years, 08:09.822 --> 08:14.827 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they are fighting a good fight for the arts in Virginia 08:15.561 --> 08:16.796 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% as far as I can tell. 08:16.796 --> 08:18.030 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They put together Artisan Trails. 08:18.030 --> 08:18.998 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I've been on the Artisan Trail. 08:18.998 --> 08:20.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I think I saw the sign for it- 08:20.500 --> 08:23.569 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% >>So that's a nice deal though to have that honor. 08:23.569 --> 08:25.638 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Yeah, I mean I'd put it on a resume. 08:25.638 --> 08:26.706 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (laughing) 08:26.706 --> 08:29.208 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>That's good. 08:29.208 --> 08:30.142 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>It's lovely. 08:30.142 --> 08:31.377 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>You're here at McGuffey. 08:31.377 --> 08:32.812 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Talk about how long you've been here. 08:32.812 --> 08:36.716 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% >>I've been in this building for 14 years I think. 08:36.716 --> 08:38.117 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Here in Charlottesville. 08:38.117 --> 08:40.720 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>14 years. >>And another 14 or 15 08:40.720 --> 08:41.921 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in New York. 08:41.921 --> 08:43.155 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>In the Finger Lakes, yeah. 08:43.155 --> 08:44.957 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>So talk about some of the galleries. 08:46.225 --> 08:47.627 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We have some local spots that you have- 08:47.627 --> 08:49.362 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>I have work in Vivian, 08:49.362 --> 08:53.032 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which I've sold to Vivian since I came to town. 08:53.032 --> 08:54.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Wow, on the downtown mall. 08:54.700 --> 08:55.968 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Yeah, and it's sort of like, 08:55.968 --> 08:59.639 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's been a really good symbiotic relationship. 08:59.639 --> 09:00.873 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I tell people to go down to her. 09:00.873 --> 09:02.775 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% She tells people to come up to me. 09:02.775 --> 09:05.678 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I've gotten some custom work out of it, 09:05.678 --> 09:09.482 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and I get to display work in a great place on the mall. 09:09.482 --> 09:12.184 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I sell at a place out in the middle of nowhere 09:12.184 --> 09:13.719 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% called the Barn Swallow. 09:13.719 --> 09:15.555 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Oh, that's gone 250. >>I know. 09:15.555 --> 09:17.023 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>That's fabulous. >>They're lovely. 09:17.023 --> 09:17.957 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>That's fabulous. 09:17.957 --> 09:19.525 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>And I sell at the gallery 09:19.525 --> 09:21.260 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% at Sunspots where I work. 09:21.260 --> 09:22.194 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Which is in Stanton. 09:22.194 --> 09:23.462 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Which is in Stanton, 09:23.462 --> 09:26.032 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but I used to do shows from Maine to Florida, 09:26.032 --> 09:27.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Chicago to New Orleans, 09:27.800 --> 09:30.636 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and man, I've traveled so many miles and it just, 09:30.636 --> 09:32.905 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% at some point, it got kind of tiring, 09:32.905 --> 09:35.107 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and that's not to say it won't happen again. 09:35.107 --> 09:37.243 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It's how I want to push. 09:37.243 --> 09:40.413 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And I think a lot of what's been going on 09:40.413 --> 09:41.881 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% since I stopped doing shows, 09:41.881 --> 09:43.916 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's been a different kind of grounding, 09:43.916 --> 09:46.953 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and so it's more like, instead of running out 09:46.953 --> 09:48.487 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% trying to sell my work everywhere, 09:48.487 --> 09:53.326 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm just slowly, if it happens, it's gonna happen. 09:53.326 --> 09:56.195 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So this is gonna to be green and yellow specs 09:56.195 --> 09:58.331 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with a little swirl in it. 09:58.331 --> 10:00.099 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>You do shows here. 10:00.099 --> 10:02.301 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% McGuffey has an annual open house 10:02.301 --> 10:04.337 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% every December. >>Yeah, holiday open house. 10:04.337 --> 10:06.072 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We've done that ever since we've been in here. 10:06.072 --> 10:09.442 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We have an open-door policy for the public. 10:09.442 --> 10:14.413 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I also do benefit work for Second Street Gallery. 10:14.413 --> 10:18.584 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I've done benefit work for Piedmont Craft. 10:20.286 --> 10:22.121 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I'll do it for anybody that wants to do it. 10:22.121 --> 10:24.390 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>And can people just walk in your studio 10:24.390 --> 10:26.692 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when you're here, or should they have an appointment? 10:28.427 --> 10:31.697 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% >>Now, with the time that I'm spending in Stanton, 10:31.697 --> 10:33.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I'm going to have a couple of days 10:33.366 --> 10:35.635 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that are going to be open to the public, 10:35.635 --> 10:37.670 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but generally, it's going to be by appointment, 10:37.670 --> 10:39.805 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it'd probably be people who've already done it. 10:39.805 --> 10:43.042 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I get a lot of repeat people. 10:43.976 --> 10:45.511 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% People love it. 10:45.511 --> 10:48.381 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They think it's the coolest thing in the world, and it is. 10:48.381 --> 10:50.416 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Talk about this passion that you have 10:50.416 --> 10:53.152 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% for color and for light. 10:53.152 --> 10:56.622 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>It's like everything. (laughing) 10:56.622 --> 10:58.391 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Color and light, it's all of it. 10:59.558 --> 11:01.961 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You see it in everything you look at. 11:01.961 --> 11:06.132 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's something about the way glass transmits or reflects, 11:06.132 --> 11:08.067 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and the distortions that it makes. 11:10.269 --> 11:12.038 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I'll make a simple paperweight, 11:12.038 --> 11:14.206 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but then I'll grind a lens in it, 11:14.206 --> 11:15.641 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and so you can look at this thing 11:15.641 --> 11:17.243 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and see this pattern of color, 11:17.243 --> 11:18.878 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but then if you look through the lens, 11:18.878 --> 11:21.747 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it's a completely different perspective of the same thing, 11:21.747 --> 11:23.416 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and you can do that with glass, 11:23.416 --> 11:25.518 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and you can't do that with other material. 11:26.952 --> 11:29.255 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Metal is beautiful, but you can't see through it. 11:29.255 --> 11:31.290 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% All it can do is reflect, 11:31.290 --> 11:33.959 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so that's all you're gonna get in its light. 11:33.959 --> 11:37.263 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Even if you start doing enamel, 11:37.263 --> 11:41.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you're only going to be able to see it as a reflected light. 11:41.233 --> 11:42.334 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And I love enamel work. 11:42.334 --> 11:43.602 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I think some of it is gorgeous, 11:43.602 --> 11:47.306 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but you don't get what you get with glass. 11:47.306 --> 11:49.442 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And the forming of it, 11:49.442 --> 11:53.279 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's 360 degrees to do whatever you want. 11:54.180 --> 11:56.549 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% It's infinite. 11:56.549 --> 11:58.250 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% You could make anything. 11:58.250 --> 12:00.252 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And some people are afraid of that, 12:00.252 --> 12:03.489 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and I just think it's like the most craziest thing ever, 12:03.489 --> 12:04.924 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% like, oh, wow, you know, 12:04.924 --> 12:06.659 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% pick up the pliers and pull. 12:06.659 --> 12:11.163 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Who knows what you're gonna get? (laughing) 12:11.163 --> 12:13.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (jazz music)