>> THIS PRESENTATION WAS MADE
POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART TO THE
PATRONS OF "CHARLOTTESVILLE

POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART TO THE
PATRONS OF "CHARLOTTESVILLE
INSIDE-OUT," COMMITTED TO

PATRONS OF "CHARLOTTESVILLE
INSIDE-OUT," COMMITTED TO
CLEARING THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND

INSIDE-OUT," COMMITTED TO
CLEARING THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND
QUALITY OF LIFE THAT UNIQUELY

CLEARING THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND
QUALITY OF LIFE THAT UNIQUELY
DEFINE CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS

QUALITY OF LIFE THAT UNIQUELY
DEFINE CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS
SURROUNDINGS.

>> ONE BRICK ROLLED OUT OF THE
SHOULDER OF THIS CHIMNEY, AND IT
HAS THIS INFANT'S FOOTPRINT IN

SHOULDER OF THIS CHIMNEY, AND IT
HAS THIS INFANT'S FOOTPRINT IN
IT.

HAS THIS INFANT'S FOOTPRINT IN
IT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DO

IT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DO
THIS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DO
THIS.
>> FOR WHTJ I'M TERRI ALLARD AND

THIS.
>> FOR WHTJ I'M TERRI ALLARD AND
THIS IS "CHARLOTTESVILLE

>> FOR WHTJ I'M TERRI ALLARD AND
THIS IS "CHARLOTTESVILLE
INSIDE-OUT."

THIS IS "CHARLOTTESVILLE
INSIDE-OUT."
♪

>> VIRGINIA'S PIEDMONT REJOINS
KNOWN FOR ITS BEAUTIFUL
LANDSCAPES, RICH HISTORY, AND

KNOWN FOR ITS BEAUTIFUL
LANDSCAPES, RICH HISTORY, AND
SPRAWLING COUNTRY ESTATES.

LANDSCAPES, RICH HISTORY, AND
SPRAWLING COUNTRY ESTATES.
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO VISIT ONE

SPRAWLING COUNTRY ESTATES.
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO VISIT ONE
SUCH ALBEMARLE BUILDING.

TODAY WE'RE GOING TO VISIT ONE
SUCH ALBEMARLE BUILDING.
JOIN US AS WE TALK WITH PATRICIA

SUCH ALBEMARLE BUILDING.
JOIN US AS WE TALK WITH PATRICIA
CASTELLI ABOUT HER BOOK "THE

JOIN US AS WE TALK WITH PATRICIA
CASTELLI ABOUT HER BOOK "THE
STORY OF KESWICK HALL."

CASTELLI ABOUT HER BOOK "THE
STORY OF KESWICK HALL."
COME ON.

>> PATRICIA, WHAT INSPIRED YOU
TO WRITE YOUR BOOK?
>> I WAS A FOOD AND BEVERAGE --

TO WRITE YOUR BOOK?
>> I WAS A FOOD AND BEVERAGE --
WE DID VILLA LUNCH IN THE HOTEL.

>> I WAS A FOOD AND BEVERAGE --
WE DID VILLA LUNCH IN THE HOTEL.
THE TALL CEILINGS AND SQUEAKY

WE DID VILLA LUNCH IN THE HOTEL.
THE TALL CEILINGS AND SQUEAKY
STAIRS, AND I WOULD APPROACH A

THE TALL CEILINGS AND SQUEAKY
STAIRS, AND I WOULD APPROACH A
TABLE AND ASKED HOW EVERYTHING

STAIRS, AND I WOULD APPROACH A
TABLE AND ASKED HOW EVERYTHING
WAS, THEY WOULD ASK ME, CAN YOU

TABLE AND ASKED HOW EVERYTHING
WAS, THEY WOULD ASK ME, CAN YOU
TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE

WAS, THEY WOULD ASK ME, CAN YOU
TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE
HISTORY OF THIS PLACE?

TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE
HISTORY OF THIS PLACE?
AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL

HISTORY OF THIS PLACE?
AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL
THEM.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL
THEM.
SO I MADE IT MY BUSINESS TO FINE

THEM.
SO I MADE IT MY BUSINESS TO FINE
OUT.

SO I MADE IT MY BUSINESS TO FINE
OUT.
I WENT TO THE FRONT DESK.

OUT.
I WENT TO THE FRONT DESK.
I SAID, WHAT HAVE WE GOT SOME

I WENT TO THE FRONT DESK.
I SAID, WHAT HAVE WE GOT SOME
PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME.

I SAID, WHAT HAVE WE GOT SOME
PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME.
AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH.

PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME.
AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH.
THEYED A ONE 8.5 WITHS 11 SHEET

AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH.
THEYED A ONE 8.5 WITHS 11 SHEET
OF PAPER WITH TWO PARAGRAPHS.

THEYED A ONE 8.5 WITHS 11 SHEET
OF PAPER WITH TWO PARAGRAPHS.
SO I STARTED TELLING THOSE

OF PAPER WITH TWO PARAGRAPHS.
SO I STARTED TELLING THOSE
STORIES AND IT TURN OUT SOME WAS

SO I STARTED TELLING THOSE
STORIES AND IT TURN OUT SOME WAS
WRONG.

STORIES AND IT TURN OUT SOME WAS
WRONG.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER.

WRONG.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER.
WHAT HAPPENED WAS I DISCOVERED

I DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER.
WHAT HAPPENED WAS I DISCOVERED
TWO THINGS, ONE, PEOPLE LOVE

WHAT HAPPENED WAS I DISCOVERED
TWO THINGS, ONE, PEOPLE LOVE
STORIES, AND, TWO PEOPLE SAID,

TWO THINGS, ONE, PEOPLE LOVE
STORIES, AND, TWO PEOPLE SAID,
YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY SHOULD TALK

STORIES, AND, TWO PEOPLE SAID,
YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY SHOULD TALK
TO SO AND SO BECAUSE THEY WERE

YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY SHOULD TALK
TO SO AND SO BECAUSE THEY WERE
HERE WHEN THIS AND THIS HAND.

TO SO AND SO BECAUSE THEY WERE
HERE WHEN THIS AND THIS HAND.
OR THEY WOULD SAY I WAS HEROINE

HERE WHEN THIS AND THIS HAND.
OR THEY WOULD SAY I WAS HEROINE
1953 BECAUSE MY WEDDING

OR THEY WOULD SAY I WAS HEROINE
1953 BECAUSE MY WEDDING
RESINGS -- OR SOMETHING LIKE

1953 BECAUSE MY WEDDING
RESINGS -- OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.

RESINGS -- OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
I JUST SCOFFED THERE WAR SO --

THAT.
I JUST SCOFFED THERE WAR SO --
DISCOVERED THERE WAR SO MANY

I JUST SCOFFED THERE WAR SO --
DISCOVERED THERE WAR SO MANY
CONNECTIONS.

DISCOVERED THERE WAR SO MANY
CONNECTIONS.
>> TELL US ABOUT THE TOURS.

CONNECTIONS.
>> TELL US ABOUT THE TOURS.
>> I SHOW PEOPLE THAT AS A

>> TELL US ABOUT THE TOURS.
>> I SHOW PEOPLE THAT AS A
PRIVATE HOME IT LOOKED LIKE --

>> I SHOW PEOPLE THAT AS A
PRIVATE HOME IT LOOKED LIKE --
THE WING WITH THE TWO CHIMNEYS

PRIVATE HOME IT LOOKED LIKE --
THE WING WITH THE TWO CHIMNEYS
AND THAT STILL STANDS.

THE WING WITH THE TWO CHIMNEYS
AND THAT STILL STANDS.
THEN THIS PART WAS TORN OFF, AND

AND THAT STILL STANDS.
THEN THIS PART WAS TORN OFF, AND
THE REST IS ACTUALLY JUST ABOUT

THEN THIS PART WAS TORN OFF, AND
THE REST IS ACTUALLY JUST ABOUT
20 YEARS OLD.

THE REST IS ACTUALLY JUST ABOUT
20 YEARS OLD.
WHICH WHAT IS SO AMAZING HOW

20 YEARS OLD.
WHICH WHAT IS SO AMAZING HOW
THEY INCORPORATED THE OLD INTO

WHICH WHAT IS SO AMAZING HOW
THEY INCORPORATED THE OLD INTO
THE NEW AND MADE IT LOOK LIKE

THEY INCORPORATED THE OLD INTO
THE NEW AND MADE IT LOOK LIKE
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HERE.

THE NEW AND MADE IT LOOK LIKE
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HERE.
SO IT'S JUST -- THE ARCHITECT

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HERE.
SO IT'S JUST -- THE ARCHITECT
HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB.

SO IT'S JUST -- THE ARCHITECT
HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB.
>> THEY START HERE --

HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB.
>> THEY START HERE --
>> I SHOW THEM THAT WHAT WAS THE

>> THEY START HERE --
>> I SHOW THEM THAT WHAT WAS THE
SITE OF THE HOUSE BECAME PART OF

>> I SHOW THEM THAT WHAT WAS THE
SITE OF THE HOUSE BECAME PART OF
THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

SITE OF THE HOUSE BECAME PART OF
THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
THEN WE WEEK BY THE HORIZON POOL

THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
THEN WE WEEK BY THE HORIZON POOL
AND LOOK LOOK AT WHAT WAS

THEN WE WEEK BY THE HORIZON POOL
AND LOOK LOOK AT WHAT WAS
ORIGINALLY THE FRONT OF THE

AND LOOK LOOK AT WHAT WAS
ORIGINALLY THE FRONT OF THE
HOUSE, AND THAT MAKES SENSE

ORIGINALLY THE FRONT OF THE
HOUSE, AND THAT MAKES SENSE
BECAUSE WHEN THEY DID THE

HOUSE, AND THAT MAKES SENSE
BECAUSE WHEN THEY DID THE
RENOVATION 20 YEARS AGO THEY

BECAUSE WHEN THEY DID THE
RENOVATION 20 YEARS AGO THEY
WERE SO TRUE TO THE INTEGRITY OF

RENOVATION 20 YEARS AGO THEY
WERE SO TRUE TO THE INTEGRITY OF
THE STRUCTURE THAT IT REALLY

WERE SO TRUE TO THE INTEGRITY OF
THE STRUCTURE THAT IT REALLY
LOOKS JUST LIKE IT USED TO LOOK.

THE STRUCTURE THAT IT REALLY
LOOKS JUST LIKE IT USED TO LOOK.
SO, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH ABOUT

LOOKS JUST LIKE IT USED TO LOOK.
SO, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH ABOUT
IT THAT -- WHAT I DO IS TRY TO

SO, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH ABOUT
IT THAT -- WHAT I DO IS TRY TO
DO AN OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORY,

IT THAT -- WHAT I DO IS TRY TO
DO AN OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORY,
WHICH IS REALLY BROKEN UP INTO

DO AN OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORY,
WHICH IS REALLY BROKEN UP INTO
THREE PARTS.

WHICH IS REALLY BROKEN UP INTO
THREE PARTS.
YOU HAVE THE 35 YEARS OR SO OF

THREE PARTS.
YOU HAVE THE 35 YEARS OR SO OF
PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.

YOU HAVE THE 35 YEARS OR SO OF
PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.
FOLLOWED BY ABOUT 40 YEARS, GIVE

PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.
FOLLOWED BY ABOUT 40 YEARS, GIVE
OR TAKE, OF COUNTRY CLUB.

FOLLOWED BY ABOUT 40 YEARS, GIVE
OR TAKE, OF COUNTRY CLUB.
AND THEN 20 YEARS AGO IT

OR TAKE, OF COUNTRY CLUB.
AND THEN 20 YEARS AGO IT
TRANSFORMED INTO THIS BEAUTIFUL

AND THEN 20 YEARS AGO IT
TRANSFORMED INTO THIS BEAUTIFUL
HOTEL.

TRANSFORMED INTO THIS BEAUTIFUL
HOTEL.
SO, WHAT I TRY TO DO IS WHEN I

HOTEL.
SO, WHAT I TRY TO DO IS WHEN I
GO AROUND TO THE FRONT AND SHOW

SO, WHAT I TRY TO DO IS WHEN I
GO AROUND TO THE FRONT AND SHOW
WHAT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE

GO AROUND TO THE FRONT AND SHOW
WHAT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE
LOOKED LIKE, I TALK ABOUT THE

WHAT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE
LOOKED LIKE, I TALK ABOUT THE
PRIVATE OWNERS AND SOME OF THE

LOOKED LIKE, I TALK ABOUT THE
PRIVATE OWNERS AND SOME OF THE
STORIES FROM THAT TIME.

PRIVATE OWNERS AND SOME OF THE
STORIES FROM THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE MOVE OVER TO WHERE

STORIES FROM THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE MOVE OVER TO WHERE
YOU CAN SEE THE HOTEL FROM A

AND THEN WE MOVE OVER TO WHERE
YOU CAN SEE THE HOTEL FROM A
LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY, BUT I

YOU CAN SEE THE HOTEL FROM A
LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY, BUT I
HAVE A WONDERFUL AERIAL THAT

LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY, BUT I
HAVE A WONDERFUL AERIAL THAT
SHOWS WHAT IT LIKED LIKE FROM

HAVE A WONDERFUL AERIAL THAT
SHOWS WHAT IT LIKED LIKE FROM
THE VERY ANGLE WHEN IT WAS A

SHOWS WHAT IT LIKED LIKE FROM
THE VERY ANGLE WHEN IT WAS A
COUNTRY CLUB.

THE VERY ANGLE WHEN IT WAS A
COUNTRY CLUB.
THAT MAKES IT FUN.

COUNTRY CLUB.
THAT MAKES IT FUN.
>> TALK ABOUT WHEN IT WAS FIRST

THAT MAKES IT FUN.
>> TALK ABOUT WHEN IT WAS FIRST
BUILT.

>> TALK ABOUT WHEN IT WAS FIRST
BUILT.
>> WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT,

BUILT.
>> WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT,
THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE

>> WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT,
THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE
PROPERTY TO BEGIN WITH.

THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE
PROPERTY TO BEGIN WITH.
IT WAS A PIECE OF LAN THAT AND

PROPERTY TO BEGIN WITH.
IT WAS A PIECE OF LAN THAT AND
ARE MRS. ROBERT CRAWFORD BOUGHT.

IT WAS A PIECE OF LAN THAT AND
ARE MRS. ROBERT CRAWFORD BOUGHT.
HIRED A LOCAL ARCHITECT TO BUILD

ARE MRS. ROBERT CRAWFORD BOUGHT.
HIRED A LOCAL ARCHITECT TO BUILD
THEM THEIR BEAUTIFUL VILLA.

HIRED A LOCAL ARCHITECT TO BUILD
THEM THEIR BEAUTIFUL VILLA.
COST $100,000 TO BILL -- BUILD

THEM THEIR BEAUTIFUL VILLA.
COST $100,000 TO BILL -- BUILD
BACK THEN AND SO FORTUNATE TO

COST $100,000 TO BILL -- BUILD
BACK THEN AND SO FORTUNATE TO
FIND PHOTOGRAPHS OF

BACK THEN AND SO FORTUNATE TO
FIND PHOTOGRAPHS OF
MRS. CRAWFORD AND HER BOYS.

FIND PHOTOGRAPHS OF
MRS. CRAWFORD AND HER BOYS.
SO I WAS ABLE TO PIECE IT

MRS. CRAWFORD AND HER BOYS.
SO I WAS ABLE TO PIECE IT
TOGETHER.

SO I WAS ABLE TO PIECE IT
TOGETHER.
MRS. CRAWFORD WAS KIND OF A

TOGETHER.
MRS. CRAWFORD WAS KIND OF A
BIZARRE CHARACTER.

MRS. CRAWFORD WAS KIND OF A
BIZARRE CHARACTER.
I WAS SURPRISED AT ANY NUMBER OF

BIZARRE CHARACTER.
I WAS SURPRISED AT ANY NUMBER OF
TURNS WHILE I WAS DYING MY --

I WAS SURPRISED AT ANY NUMBER OF
TURNS WHILE I WAS DYING MY --
DOING MY RESEARCH.

TURNS WHILE I WAS DYING MY --
DOING MY RESEARCH.
REALLY?

DOING MY RESEARCH.
REALLY?
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED?

REALLY?
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED?
I JUST DIDN'T EXPECT WHAT FOUND.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED?
I JUST DIDN'T EXPECT WHAT FOUND.
>> YOU HAVE TO ELABORATE NOW.

I JUST DIDN'T EXPECT WHAT FOUND.
>> YOU HAVE TO ELABORATE NOW.
YOU CAN'T TEASE US.

>> YOU HAVE TO ELABORATE NOW.
YOU CAN'T TEASE US.
>> THIS BEAUTIFUL HOTEL AND

YOU CAN'T TEASE US.
>> THIS BEAUTIFUL HOTEL AND
PEOPLE COME HERE FOR

>> THIS BEAUTIFUL HOTEL AND
PEOPLE COME HERE FOR
ANNIVERSARIES AND SPECIAL OVER

PEOPLE COME HERE FOR
ANNIVERSARIES AND SPECIAL OVER
INDICATIONS, WEDDINGS, SO

ANNIVERSARIES AND SPECIAL OVER
INDICATIONS, WEDDINGS, SO
BEAUTIFUL, AND SO NATURALLY I

INDICATIONS, WEDDINGS, SO
BEAUTIFUL, AND SO NATURALLY I
WAS HOPING FOR A LOVE STORY.

BEAUTIFUL, AND SO NATURALLY I
WAS HOPING FOR A LOVE STORY.
MR. AND MRS. CRAWFORD MARRY IN

WAS HOPING FOR A LOVE STORY.
MR. AND MRS. CRAWFORD MARRY IN
1907 TWO BAYS IN 1910.

MR. AND MRS. CRAWFORD MARRY IN
1907 TWO BAYS IN 1910.
BUILD THIS HOUSE IN 1912.

1907 TWO BAYS IN 1910.
BUILD THIS HOUSE IN 1912.
THEY MOVED IN.

BUILD THIS HOUSE IN 1912.
THEY MOVED IN.
UNTIL 1917 WHEN MR. CRAWFORD

THEY MOVED IN.
UNTIL 1917 WHEN MR. CRAWFORD
CONVEYED THE PROPERTY TO HIS

UNTIL 1917 WHEN MR. CRAWFORD
CONVEYED THE PROPERTY TO HIS
WIFE AND LEFT.

CONVEYED THE PROPERTY TO HIS
WIFE AND LEFT.
AND THEN I FOUND ANOTHER ARTICLE

WIFE AND LEFT.
AND THEN I FOUND ANOTHER ARTICLE
THAT JUST COMPLETELY FLOORED ME.

AND THEN I FOUND ANOTHER ARTICLE
THAT JUST COMPLETELY FLOORED ME.
BOB CRAWFORD WAS TWO YEARS LATER

THAT JUST COMPLETELY FLOORED ME.
BOB CRAWFORD WAS TWO YEARS LATER
FOUND DEAD IN HIS HOTEL ROOM.

BOB CRAWFORD WAS TWO YEARS LATER
FOUND DEAD IN HIS HOTEL ROOM.
>> AND SHE ONLY MARRIED SIX DAYS

FOUND DEAD IN HIS HOTEL ROOM.
>> AND SHE ONLY MARRIED SIX DAYS
LATER.

>> AND SHE ONLY MARRIED SIX DAYS
LATER.
>> YEAH.

LATER.
>> YEAH.
>> SO, WE DIDN'T GET THE LOVE

>> YEAH.
>> SO, WE DIDN'T GET THE LOVE
STORY.

>> SO, WE DIDN'T GET THE LOVE
STORY.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.

STORY.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.
>> SO THEN WHAT THIS SECOND PART

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.
>> SO THEN WHAT THIS SECOND PART
OF HISTORY YOU TALK ABOUT THE

>> SO THEN WHAT THIS SECOND PART
OF HISTORY YOU TALK ABOUT THE
MOST?

OF HISTORY YOU TALK ABOUT THE
MOST?
>> WELL, MRS. CRAWFORD AND HER

MOST?
>> WELL, MRS. CRAWFORD AND HER
NEW HUSBAND DIDN'T STAY LONG.

>> WELL, MRS. CRAWFORD AND HER
NEW HUSBAND DIDN'T STAY LONG.
THEY SOLD IT.

NEW HUSBAND DIDN'T STAY LONG.
THEY SOLD IT.
IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE HANDS OF

THEY SOLD IT.
IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE HANDS OF
FIVE DIFFERENT PRIVATE OPENER --

IT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE HANDS OF
FIVE DIFFERENT PRIVATE OPENER --
OWNERS FOR 35 YEARS.

FIVE DIFFERENT PRIVATE OPENER --
OWNERS FOR 35 YEARS.
THE IT WAS SOLD AND BECAME A

OWNERS FOR 35 YEARS.
THE IT WAS SOLD AND BECAME A
COUNTRY CLUB.

THE IT WAS SOLD AND BECAME A
COUNTRY CLUB.
AND THEN IT WAS SOLVENT, INSOLVE

COUNTRY CLUB.
AND THEN IT WAS SOLVENT, INSOLVE
VENT, BANKRUPT, NOT DOING WELL.

AND THEN IT WAS SOLVENT, INSOLVE
VENT, BANKRUPT, NOT DOING WELL.
HOW COUNTRY CLUBS GO.

VENT, BANKRUPT, NOT DOING WELL.
HOW COUNTRY CLUBS GO.
AND IT WAS AN ERA OF COUNTRY

HOW COUNTRY CLUBS GO.
AND IT WAS AN ERA OF COUNTRY
CLUBS IN OUR COUNTRY, AND ONE OF

AND IT WAS AN ERA OF COUNTRY
CLUBS IN OUR COUNTRY, AND ONE OF
THE MOST FASCINATING THINGS FOR

CLUBS IN OUR COUNTRY, AND ONE OF
THE MOST FASCINATING THINGS FOR
ME IN THIS WHOLE THING WAS

THE MOST FASCINATING THINGS FOR
ME IN THIS WHOLE THING WAS
FINDING OUT THAT THIS CLUB

ME IN THIS WHOLE THING WAS
FINDING OUT THAT THIS CLUB
REALLY PLAYED A ROLE IN -- HOW

FINDING OUT THAT THIS CLUB
REALLY PLAYED A ROLE IN -- HOW
SHOULD I SAY -- THE 1960s WERE

REALLY PLAYED A ROLE IN -- HOW
SHOULD I SAY -- THE 1960s WERE
A VERY TRANSFORMATIVE TIME IN

SHOULD I SAY -- THE 1960s WERE
A VERY TRANSFORMATIVE TIME IN
OUR COUNTRY, AND ONE OF THE

A VERY TRANSFORMATIVE TIME IN
OUR COUNTRY, AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT HAPPENED HERE THAT I

OUR COUNTRY, AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT HAPPENED HERE THAT I
FEEL SO PROUD OF IS THAT IN

THINGS THAT HAPPENED HERE THAT I
FEEL SO PROUD OF IS THAT IN
1965, THE OWNER OF THE CLUB,

FEEL SO PROUD OF IS THAT IN
1965, THE OWNER OF THE CLUB,
KNOX TURNBULL, INVITED A BLACK

1965, THE OWNER OF THE CLUB,
KNOX TURNBULL, INVITED A BLACK
MINISTER AND HIS WIFE TO JOIN.

KNOX TURNBULL, INVITED A BLACK
MINISTER AND HIS WIFE TO JOIN.
>> HOW DID THAT GO?

MINISTER AND HIS WIFE TO JOIN.
>> HOW DID THAT GO?
>> THE WAY BOB REID PUT IT, THIS

>> HOW DID THAT GO?
>> THE WAY BOB REID PUT IT, THIS
QUASID QUITE A HULL LA INTO LA,

>> THE WAY BOB REID PUT IT, THIS
QUASID QUITE A HULL LA INTO LA,
AND IT MEANS MEMBERSHIP WENT

QUASID QUITE A HULL LA INTO LA,
AND IT MEANS MEMBERSHIP WENT
THROUGH THE FLOOR.

AND IT MEANS MEMBERSHIP WENT
THROUGH THE FLOOR.
AND KNOX TURNVILLE DIDN'T BACK

THROUGH THE FLOOR.
AND KNOX TURNVILLE DIDN'T BACK
TOWN, AND MEMBERSHIP DROPPED TO

AND KNOX TURNVILLE DIDN'T BACK
TOWN, AND MEMBERSHIP DROPPED TO
55.

TOWN, AND MEMBERSHIP DROPPED TO
55.
IT HAD BEEN AT 75.

55.
IT HAD BEEN AT 75.
DROPPED TO 55 PEOPLE.

IT HAD BEEN AT 75.
DROPPED TO 55 PEOPLE.
BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT

DROPPED TO 55 PEOPLE.
BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT
SIX YEARS ROWS TO OVER 800.

BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT
SIX YEARS ROWS TO OVER 800.
I JUST -- TO ME THAT'S SUCH A

SIX YEARS ROWS TO OVER 800.
I JUST -- TO ME THAT'S SUCH A
POINT TO CELEBRATE.

I JUST -- TO ME THAT'S SUCH A
POINT TO CELEBRATE.
THAT THE OWNER OF THIS CLUB HAD

POINT TO CELEBRATE.
THAT THE OWNER OF THIS CLUB HAD
THE COURAGE TO DO THAT.

THAT THE OWNER OF THIS CLUB HAD
THE COURAGE TO DO THAT.
IN 1965, THAT WAS GOING SOME,

THE COURAGE TO DO THAT.
IN 1965, THAT WAS GOING SOME,
AND I MET SO MANY PEOPLE WHO

IN 1965, THAT WAS GOING SOME,
AND I MET SO MANY PEOPLE WHO
WANTED TO BE A PART OF THIS

AND I MET SO MANY PEOPLE WHO
WANTED TO BE A PART OF THIS
BECAUSE OF THE POLICY.

WANTED TO BE A PART OF THIS
BECAUSE OF THE POLICY.
AND THEY WERE JUST EXCITED TO BE

BECAUSE OF THE POLICY.
AND THEY WERE JUST EXCITED TO BE
PART OF THAT.

AND THEY WERE JUST EXCITED TO BE
PART OF THAT.
>> THAT'S A WONDERFUL --

PART OF THAT.
>> THAT'S A WONDERFUL --
>> VERY, VERY EXCITING.

>> THAT'S A WONDERFUL --
>> VERY, VERY EXCITING.
>> I WISH I COULD HAVE MET HIM.

>> VERY, VERY EXCITING.
>> I WISH I COULD HAVE MET HIM.
>> ME, TOO.

>> I WISH I COULD HAVE MET HIM.
>> ME, TOO.
HE MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY DYNAMIC

>> ME, TOO.
HE MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY DYNAMIC
MAN, BECAUSE -- GEES THAT WHAT

HE MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY DYNAMIC
MAN, BECAUSE -- GEES THAT WHAT
IS SAYS IN YOUR BOOK.

MAN, BECAUSE -- GEES THAT WHAT
IS SAYS IN YOUR BOOK.
>> WHEN HE DIED IN 1971 IT WAS

IS SAYS IN YOUR BOOK.
>> WHEN HE DIED IN 1971 IT WAS
AS IF THE AIR WENT OUT OF THE

>> WHEN HE DIED IN 1971 IT WAS
AS IF THE AIR WENT OUT OF THE
BALLOON, AND BY THE NEXT YEAR

AS IF THE AIR WENT OUT OF THE
BALLOON, AND BY THE NEXT YEAR
THE CLUB HAD FOLDED, AND SOME OF

BALLOON, AND BY THE NEXT YEAR
THE CLUB HAD FOLDED, AND SOME OF
WHAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY

THE CLUB HAD FOLDED, AND SOME OF
WHAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
REMEMBER ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS

WHAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
REMEMBER ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS
THAT IT WAS RUN DOWN, THE GRASS

REMEMBER ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS
THAT IT WAS RUN DOWN, THE GRASS
WAS TOO TALL, AND IT WAS A

THAT IT WAS RUN DOWN, THE GRASS
WAS TOO TALL, AND IT WAS A
SHAMBLES.

WAS TOO TALL, AND IT WAS A
SHAMBLES.
FOR A TIME IT WAS A SHAMBLES.

SHAMBLES.
FOR A TIME IT WAS A SHAMBLES.
AND PROBABLY THE MOST POWERFUL

FOR A TIME IT WAS A SHAMBLES.
AND PROBABLY THE MOST POWERFUL
PICTURE THAT I HAVE THAT I SHOW

AND PROBABLY THE MOST POWERFUL
PICTURE THAT I HAVE THAT I SHOW
PEOPLE IS THIS ONE FROM WHEN --

PICTURE THAT I HAVE THAT I SHOW
PEOPLE IS THIS ONE FROM WHEN --
1990 WHEN --

PEOPLE IS THIS ONE FROM WHEN --
1990 WHEN --
>> OH, I KNOW.

1990 WHEN --
>> OH, I KNOW.
>> MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BULL

>> OH, I KNOW.
>> MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BULL
DOED -- BULLDOZED THIS.

>> MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BULL
DOED -- BULLDOZED THIS.
IT WAS IN VERY BAD SHAPE.

DOED -- BULLDOZED THIS.
IT WAS IN VERY BAD SHAPE.
BUT LUCKY FOR US SOMEONE CAME

IT WAS IN VERY BAD SHAPE.
BUT LUCKY FOR US SOMEONE CAME
ALONG WHO SAW THIS WITH HIS

BUT LUCKY FOR US SOMEONE CAME
ALONG WHO SAW THIS WITH HIS
EYES, AND ALL OF THIS WITH HIS

ALONG WHO SAW THIS WITH HIS
EYES, AND ALL OF THIS WITH HIS
MIND.

EYES, AND ALL OF THIS WITH HIS
MIND.
>> WHO IS THIS SOMEONE.

MIND.
>> WHO IS THIS SOMEONE.
>> SIR BERNARD ASHLEY, WIDOWER

>> WHO IS THIS SOMEONE.
>> SIR BERNARD ASHLEY, WIDOWER
OF LAURA ASHLEY.

>> SIR BERNARD ASHLEY, WIDOWER
OF LAURA ASHLEY.
PURCHASED THE PROPERTILY AND

OF LAURA ASHLEY.
PURCHASED THE PROPERTILY AND
TRANSFORMED IT.

PURCHASED THE PROPERTILY AND
TRANSFORMED IT.
AND PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY IT'S

TRANSFORMED IT.
AND PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY IT'S
LIKE A MUSEUM, BUT ON THE OTHER

AND PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY IT'S
LIKE A MUSEUM, BUT ON THE OTHER
HAND THERE'S THIS BALANCE

LIKE A MUSEUM, BUT ON THE OTHER
HAND THERE'S THIS BALANCE
BETWEEN BEING VERY ELEGANT AND

HAND THERE'S THIS BALANCE
BETWEEN BEING VERY ELEGANT AND
VERY BEAUTIFUL BUT AT THE SAME

BETWEEN BEING VERY ELEGANT AND
VERY BEAUTIFUL BUT AT THE SAME
TIME VERY COMFORTABLE.

VERY BEAUTIFUL BUT AT THE SAME
TIME VERY COMFORTABLE.
>> I LOVE IT.

TIME VERY COMFORTABLE.
>> I LOVE IT.
>> PEOPLE ENJOY THAT.

>> I LOVE IT.
>> PEOPLE ENJOY THAT.
>> WHEN YOU WERE PIECING THE

>> PEOPLE ENJOY THAT.
>> WHEN YOU WERE PIECING THE
BOOK TOGETHER YOU REACHED OUT TO

>> WHEN YOU WERE PIECING THE
BOOK TOGETHER YOU REACHED OUT TO
THE COMMUNITY.

BOOK TOGETHER YOU REACHED OUT TO
THE COMMUNITY.
TALK ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE.

THE COMMUNITY.
TALK ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE.
>> SO MANY TIMES SOMEBODY SAID,

TALK ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE.
>> SO MANY TIMES SOMEBODY SAID,
TALK TOO SO AND SO.

>> SO MANY TIMES SOMEBODY SAID,
TALK TOO SO AND SO.
SO I DID, AND IT WAS FABULOUS.

TALK TOO SO AND SO.
SO I DID, AND IT WAS FABULOUS.
SO MANY PEOPLE HAD SO MANY

SO I DID, AND IT WAS FABULOUS.
SO MANY PEOPLE HAD SO MANY
STORIES.

SO MANY PEOPLE HAD SO MANY
STORIES.
NO ONE HAD EVER PUT THEM

STORIES.
NO ONE HAD EVER PUT THEM
TOGETHER BEFORE BUT THEY HAD

NO ONE HAD EVER PUT THEM
TOGETHER BEFORE BUT THEY HAD
SOME WONDERFUL STORIES.

TOGETHER BEFORE BUT THEY HAD
SOME WONDERFUL STORIES.
THE ONLY FUNNY ONE WAS I MET THE

SOME WONDERFUL STORIES.
THE ONLY FUNNY ONE WAS I MET THE
WOMAN WHO HAD LIVED HERE WHEN IT

THE ONLY FUNNY ONE WAS I MET THE
WOMAN WHO HAD LIVED HERE WHEN IT
WAS A PRIVATE HOME.

WOMAN WHO HAD LIVED HERE WHEN IT
WAS A PRIVATE HOME.
SHE WAS A YOUNG WOMAN.

WAS A PRIVATE HOME.
SHE WAS A YOUNG WOMAN.
HAD BEEN HERE WITH HEIR E --

SHE WAS A YOUNG WOMAN.
HAD BEEN HERE WITH HEIR E --
HEIR PARENTS, AND I HITMER, AND

HAD BEEN HERE WITH HEIR E --
HEIR PARENTS, AND I HITMER, AND
I ASKED HER TO TELL ME A LITTLE

HEIR PARENTS, AND I HITMER, AND
I ASKED HER TO TELL ME A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT ORE TIME HERE, SHE

I ASKED HER TO TELL ME A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT ORE TIME HERE, SHE
SAID I DON'T FEEL LEFT-HAND TO

BIT ABOUT ORE TIME HERE, SHE
SAID I DON'T FEEL LEFT-HAND TO
TALK ABOUT THAT.

SAID I DON'T FEEL LEFT-HAND TO
TALK ABOUT THAT.
-- I DON'T FEEL INCLINED TO

TALK ABOUT THAT.
-- I DON'T FEEL INCLINED TO
TALK ABOUT THAT.

-- I DON'T FEEL INCLINED TO
TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> 90.

TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> 90.
>> AT LEAST 93.

>> 90.
>> AT LEAST 93.
AND EVERYBODY LOVES TO TALK

>> AT LEAST 93.
AND EVERYBODY LOVES TO TALK
ABOUT THEIR STORY.

AND EVERYBODY LOVES TO TALK
ABOUT THEIR STORY.
I SAID, MA'AM, I DON'T MEAN

ABOUT THEIR STORY.
I SAID, MA'AM, I DON'T MEAN
ANYTHING PERMANENT.

I SAID, MA'AM, I DON'T MEAN
ANYTHING PERMANENT.
-- PERSONAL, AND SHE SAID NO.

ANYTHING PERMANENT.
-- PERSONAL, AND SHE SAID NO.
>> SHE TALK ABOUT HER MOTHER.

-- PERSONAL, AND SHE SAID NO.
>> SHE TALK ABOUT HER MOTHER.
>> SHE DID TAKE ABOUT HER

>> SHE TALK ABOUT HER MOTHER.
>> SHE DID TAKE ABOUT HER
MOTHER.

>> SHE DID TAKE ABOUT HER
MOTHER.
SHE SAID MY MOTHER WAS A VERY

MOTHER.
SHE SAID MY MOTHER WAS A VERY
ATTRACTIVE WOMAN, YOU KNOW.

SHE SAID MY MOTHER WAS A VERY
ATTRACTIVE WOMAN, YOU KNOW.
NOT ALL RUSSIAN WOMEN ARE.

ATTRACTIVE WOMAN, YOU KNOW.
NOT ALL RUSSIAN WOMEN ARE.
AND ALL I COULD THINK OF,

NOT ALL RUSSIAN WOMEN ARE.
AND ALL I COULD THINK OF,
THERE'S A POCKETS OF PICK -- BOX

AND ALL I COULD THINK OF,
THERE'S A POCKETS OF PICK -- BOX
OF PICTURES IN THE ATTIC.

THERE'S A POCKETS OF PICK -- BOX
OF PICTURES IN THE ATTIC.
>> MUST HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL

OF PICTURES IN THE ATTIC.
>> MUST HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL
WORKING ON THE BOOK.

>> MUST HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL
WORKING ON THE BOOK.
>> JUST MEETING SO MANY PEOPLE.

WORKING ON THE BOOK.
>> JUST MEETING SO MANY PEOPLE.
I'M NOT FROM VIRGINIA SO I

>> JUST MEETING SO MANY PEOPLE.
I'M NOT FROM VIRGINIA SO I
IMMERSED IN THE COMMUNITY

I'M NOT FROM VIRGINIA SO I
IMMERSED IN THE COMMUNITY
THROUGH THIS PROJECT, AND IT

IMMERSED IN THE COMMUNITY
THROUGH THIS PROJECT, AND IT
MADE ME FEEL LIKE I GET IT.

THROUGH THIS PROJECT, AND IT
MADE ME FEEL LIKE I GET IT.
>> TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE

MADE ME FEEL LIKE I GET IT.
>> TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
MOST DRAMATIC TIMES IN THE

>> TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
MOST DRAMATIC TIMES IN THE
ESTATE'S HISTORY?

MOST DRAMATIC TIMES IN THE
ESTATE'S HISTORY?
QUITE A FEW.

ESTATE'S HISTORY?
QUITE A FEW.
>> THE DRAMA NEVER STOPS IT

QUITE A FEW.
>> THE DRAMA NEVER STOPS IT
FEELS LIKE, OR AT LEAST IN THE

>> THE DRAMA NEVER STOPS IT
FEELS LIKE, OR AT LEAST IN THE
HISTORY.

FEELS LIKE, OR AT LEAST IN THE
HISTORY.
SO MANY THINGS.

HISTORY.
SO MANY THINGS.
WAS THERE AN UNSOLVED MURDER.

SO MANY THINGS.
WAS THERE AN UNSOLVED MURDER.
A PLANE CRASH, BOMB THREAT.

WAS THERE AN UNSOLVED MURDER.
A PLANE CRASH, BOMB THREAT.
MOVIE STARS.

A PLANE CRASH, BOMB THREAT.
MOVIE STARS.
MOVIE MADE HERE IN 1980.

MOVIE STARS.
MOVIE MADE HERE IN 1980.
THE FOUR SEASONS, AND YOU SEE

MOVIE MADE HERE IN 1980.
THE FOUR SEASONS, AND YOU SEE
THAT MOVIE, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU

THE FOUR SEASONS, AND YOU SEE
THAT MOVIE, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU
ARE BECAUSE NOT MUCH HAS

THAT MOVIE, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU
ARE BECAUSE NOT MUCH HAS
CHANGED.

ARE BECAUSE NOT MUCH HAS
CHANGED.
>> AND GIANT WAS FILMED --

CHANGED.
>> AND GIANT WAS FILMED --
>> GIANT, JUST ACROSS THE TRACKS

>> AND GIANT WAS FILMED --
>> GIANT, JUST ACROSS THE TRACKS
HERE.

>> GIANT, JUST ACROSS THE TRACKS
HERE.
>> A BIG DEAL.

HERE.
>> A BIG DEAL.
>> REALLY BIG DEAL.

>> A BIG DEAL.
>> REALLY BIG DEAL.
1955, AND THE CAN'T HAVE SECURE.

>> REALLY BIG DEAL.
1955, AND THE CAN'T HAVE SECURE.
YOU COULD JUST WALK UP TO THE

1955, AND THE CAN'T HAVE SECURE.
YOU COULD JUST WALK UP TO THE
SET.

YOU COULD JUST WALK UP TO THE
SET.
>> SO WHY DO YOU THINK NO ONE

SET.
>> SO WHY DO YOU THINK NO ONE
ELSE HAS EVER WRITTEN THE STORY

>> SO WHY DO YOU THINK NO ONE
ELSE HAS EVER WRITTEN THE STORY
OF KESWICK HALL BEFORE?

ELSE HAS EVER WRITTEN THE STORY
OF KESWICK HALL BEFORE?
>> THE PIECES WERE DISJOINTED.

OF KESWICK HALL BEFORE?
>> THE PIECES WERE DISJOINTED.
THERE WERE A LOT OF ARTICLES

>> THE PIECES WERE DISJOINTED.
THERE WERE A LOT OF ARTICLES
WRITTEN ABOUT IT.

THERE WERE A LOT OF ARTICLES
WRITTEN ABOUT IT.
THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE.

WRITTEN ABOUT IT.
THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE.
BUT IN ONE WOULD EVER PUT IT

THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE.
BUT IN ONE WOULD EVER PUT IT
TOGETHER BEFORE, AND I'M NOT

BUT IN ONE WOULD EVER PUT IT
TOGETHER BEFORE, AND I'M NOT
SURE IF NO ONE SAW IT WAS

TOGETHER BEFORE, AND I'M NOT
SURE IF NO ONE SAW IT WAS
ACTUALLY A STORY.

SURE IF NO ONE SAW IT WAS
ACTUALLY A STORY.
I'M NOT SURE.

ACTUALLY A STORY.
I'M NOT SURE.
>> MAYBE YOU BEING SO CLOSELY

I'M NOT SURE.
>> MAYBE YOU BEING SO CLOSELY
CONNECTED AND BEING HERE, YOU

>> MAYBE YOU BEING SO CLOSELY
CONNECTED AND BEING HERE, YOU
WERE THE MISSING LINK.

CONNECTED AND BEING HERE, YOU
WERE THE MISSING LINK.
>> I'M SEEING THAT SO MANY

WERE THE MISSING LINK.
>> I'M SEEING THAT SO MANY
PEOPLE DID HAVE CONNECTIONS TO

>> I'M SEEING THAT SO MANY
PEOPLE DID HAVE CONNECTIONS TO
THIS PLACE, AND THAT THERE

PEOPLE DID HAVE CONNECTIONS TO
THIS PLACE, AND THAT THERE
WAS -- THERE'S A LOVE OF THIS

THIS PLACE, AND THAT THERE
WAS -- THERE'S A LOVE OF THIS
PROPERTY.

WAS -- THERE'S A LOVE OF THIS
PROPERTY.
PEOPLE JUST COME AND STAND IN

PROPERTY.
PEOPLE JUST COME AND STAND IN
AMAZEMENT.

PEOPLE JUST COME AND STAND IN
AMAZEMENT.
I THINK THAT FOR ME IT WAS

AMAZEMENT.
I THINK THAT FOR ME IT WAS
EXCITING TO PUT IT ON PAPER

I THINK THAT FOR ME IT WAS
EXCITING TO PUT IT ON PAPER
BECAUSE IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO WALK

EXCITING TO PUT IT ON PAPER
BECAUSE IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO WALK
DOWN MEMORY LANE.

BECAUSE IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO WALK
DOWN MEMORY LANE.
OH, I WAS THERE WHEN THAT

DOWN MEMORY LANE.
OH, I WAS THERE WHEN THAT
HAPPENED.

OH, I WAS THERE WHEN THAT
HAPPENED.
OR, MY GRANDFATHER BROUGHT ME TO

HAPPENED.
OR, MY GRANDFATHER BROUGHT ME TO
SIM LESSONS IN THAT POOL OR

OR, MY GRANDFATHER BROUGHT ME TO
SIM LESSONS IN THAT POOL OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SIM LESSONS IN THAT POOL OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU?

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU?
>> OH, THERE'S A SECOND EDITION

>> WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU?
>> OH, THERE'S A SECOND EDITION
COMING THAT I'M WORKING ON

>> OH, THERE'S A SECOND EDITION
COMING THAT I'M WORKING ON
ACTUALLY, BECAUSE MY INVENTORY

COMING THAT I'M WORKING ON
ACTUALLY, BECAUSE MY INVENTORY
IS RUNNING LOW, WHICH IS GREAT.

ACTUALLY, BECAUSE MY INVENTORY
IS RUNNING LOW, WHICH IS GREAT.
A FEW CHANGES IN THAT BECAUSE

IS RUNNING LOW, WHICH IS GREAT.
A FEW CHANGES IN THAT BECAUSE
SINCE THE BOOK HAS BEEN WRITTEN

A FEW CHANGES IN THAT BECAUSE
SINCE THE BOOK HAS BEEN WRITTEN
I'VE DISCOVERED NEW THINGS.

SINCE THE BOOK HAS BEEN WRITTEN
I'VE DISCOVERED NEW THINGS.
THAT WILL BE FUN TO INCLUDE NEW

I'VE DISCOVERED NEW THINGS.
THAT WILL BE FUN TO INCLUDE NEW
THINGS, AND THEN THERE'S THINGS

THAT WILL BE FUN TO INCLUDE NEW
THINGS, AND THEN THERE'S THINGS
I'M WORKING ON THAT I'M NOT

THINGS, AND THEN THERE'S THINGS
I'M WORKING ON THAT I'M NOT
GOING TO TALK ABOUT YET.

I'M WORKING ON THAT I'M NOT
GOING TO TALK ABOUT YET.
>> CONNECTED TO THE STORY JERK

GOING TO TALK ABOUT YET.
>> CONNECTED TO THE STORY JERK
CONNECTED, YES.

>> CONNECTED TO THE STORY JERK
CONNECTED, YES.
>> SO MY LAST QUESTION, WHEN

CONNECTED, YES.
>> SO MY LAST QUESTION, WHEN
YOU'RE IN YOUR 90s AND SOMEONE

>> SO MY LAST QUESTION, WHEN
YOU'RE IN YOUR 90s AND SOMEONE
COMES KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR

YOU'RE IN YOUR 90s AND SOMEONE
COMES KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO CONTINUE

COMES KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO CONTINUE
THE STORY OF KESWICK HALL, HOW

BECAUSE THEY WANT TO CONTINUE
THE STORY OF KESWICK HALL, HOW
WILL YOU BE PORTRAYED.

THE STORY OF KESWICK HALL, HOW
WILL YOU BE PORTRAYED.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ISSUE

WILL YOU BE PORTRAYED.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ISSUE
DON'T FIND FEEL INCLINED TO TALK

>> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ISSUE
DON'T FIND FEEL INCLINED TO TALK
ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WILL FEEL

DON'T FIND FEEL INCLINED TO TALK
ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WILL FEEL
INCLINED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WILL FEEL
INCLINED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
HOPE I'M PORTRAYED AS ONE WHO

INCLINED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
HOPE I'M PORTRAYED AS ONE WHO
CAME ALONG AT MAYBE THE RIGHT

HOPE I'M PORTRAYED AS ONE WHO
CAME ALONG AT MAYBE THE RIGHT
TIME AND DUG OUT SOME PIECES,

CAME ALONG AT MAYBE THE RIGHT
TIME AND DUG OUT SOME PIECES,
PUT THEM TOGETHER, AND CONNECTED

TIME AND DUG OUT SOME PIECES,
PUT THEM TOGETHER, AND CONNECTED
THE DOTS OF THIS AMAZING STORY.

PUT THEM TOGETHER, AND CONNECTED
THE DOTS OF THIS AMAZING STORY.
>> GREAT.

THE DOTS OF THIS AMAZING STORY.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.

>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MOST BUILDERS LIKE TO

>> THANK YOU.
>> MOST BUILDERS LIKE TO
CONSTRUCT HOUSES USING BRAND NEW

>> MOST BUILDERS LIKE TO
CONSTRUCT HOUSES USING BRAND NEW
MATERIAL.

CONSTRUCT HOUSES USING BRAND NEW
MATERIAL.
OUR GUESTS TODAY, HOWEVER,

MATERIAL.
OUR GUESTS TODAY, HOWEVER,
PREFER USING MATERIAL FROM THE

OUR GUESTS TODAY, HOWEVER,
PREFER USING MATERIAL FROM THE
1700S AND 1800S.

PREFER USING MATERIAL FROM THE
1700S AND 1800S.
WE VISIT SALVAGEWRIGHTS IN

1700S AND 1800S.
WE VISIT SALVAGEWRIGHTS IN
VIRGINIA.

WE VISIT SALVAGEWRIGHTS IN
VIRGINIA.
>> CRAIG, WHAT GOES ON HERE AT

VIRGINIA.
>> CRAIG, WHAT GOES ON HERE AT
SALVAGEWRIGHTS?

>> CRAIG, WHAT GOES ON HERE AT
SALVAGEWRIGHTS?
>> WE'RE TWO FACE.

SALVAGEWRIGHTS?
>> WE'RE TWO FACE.
WE DISASSEMBLE AND MOVE ANTIQUE

>> WE'RE TWO FACE.
WE DISASSEMBLE AND MOVE ANTIQUE
STRUCTURES AND WE HAVE A RETAIL

WE DISASSEMBLE AND MOVE ANTIQUE
STRUCTURES AND WE HAVE A RETAIL
SPACE HERE THAT WE SELL PARTS

STRUCTURES AND WE HAVE A RETAIL
SPACE HERE THAT WE SELL PARTS
FROM THE HOUSE OR WHATEVER THE

SPACE HERE THAT WE SELL PARTS
FROM THE HOUSE OR WHATEVER THE
STRUCTURE IS.

FROM THE HOUSE OR WHATEVER THE
STRUCTURE IS.
CAN'T BE COMPLETELY

STRUCTURE IS.
CAN'T BE COMPLETELY
DISASSEMBLED.

CAN'T BE COMPLETELY
DISASSEMBLED.
WE GLEAN THE PARTS AND BRING

DISASSEMBLED.
WE GLEAN THE PARTS AND BRING
THEM HERE FOR THE RETAIL SPACE.

WE GLEAN THE PARTS AND BRING
THEM HERE FOR THE RETAIL SPACE.
>> YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS

THEM HERE FOR THE RETAIL SPACE.
>> YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS
HERE FOR 15 YEARS.

>> YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS
HERE FOR 15 YEARS.
HOW DID YOU FIRST BECOME

HERE FOR 15 YEARS.
HOW DID YOU FIRST BECOME
INTERESTED IN SALVAGING OLD

HOW DID YOU FIRST BECOME
INTERESTED IN SALVAGING OLD
BUILDINGS?

INTERESTED IN SALVAGING OLD
BUILDINGS?
>> IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

BUILDINGS?
>> IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
I GUESS IT STARTED WHEN I WAS A

>> IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
I GUESS IT STARTED WHEN I WAS A
KID GROWING UP HERE IN ORANGE,

I GUESS IT STARTED WHEN I WAS A
KID GROWING UP HERE IN ORANGE,
AND MY MOTHER TAKING ME TO

KID GROWING UP HERE IN ORANGE,
AND MY MOTHER TAKING ME TO
COUNTRY AUCTIONS EVERY SATURDAY.

AND MY MOTHER TAKING ME TO
COUNTRY AUCTIONS EVERY SATURDAY.
>> YOU LIKED THAT.

COUNTRY AUCTIONS EVERY SATURDAY.
>> YOU LIKED THAT.
>> I DIDN'T REALLY WARM UP TO

>> YOU LIKED THAT.
>> I DIDN'T REALLY WARM UP TO
THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE I HAD

>> I DIDN'T REALLY WARM UP TO
THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE I HAD
DIFFERENT PLANS FOR THAT

THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE I HAD
DIFFERENT PLANS FOR THAT
SATURDAY MORNING, BUT SHE WAS

DIFFERENT PLANS FOR THAT
SATURDAY MORNING, BUT SHE WAS
GOING SO THAT MEANT I WAS GOING.

SATURDAY MORNING, BUT SHE WAS
GOING SO THAT MEANT I WAS GOING.
ABOUT I FOUNT -- BUT I FOUND OUT

GOING SO THAT MEANT I WAS GOING.
ABOUT I FOUNT -- BUT I FOUND OUT
WHAT WAS GOING ON AND LOVED IT.

ABOUT I FOUNT -- BUT I FOUND OUT
WHAT WAS GOING ON AND LOVED IT.
THE NEXT SATURDAY I WAS WAITING

WHAT WAS GOING ON AND LOVED IT.
THE NEXT SATURDAY I WAS WAITING
ON HER, HONKING THE HORN.

THE NEXT SATURDAY I WAS WAITING
ON HER, HONKING THE HORN.
SO SEEING OLD AN -- ANTIQUES,

ON HER, HONKING THE HORN.
SO SEEING OLD AN -- ANTIQUES,
THAT'S WHERE I GOT MY START.

SO SEEING OLD AN -- ANTIQUES,
THAT'S WHERE I GOT MY START.
AND THEN IN COLLEGE I HAD THE

THAT'S WHERE I GOT MY START.
AND THEN IN COLLEGE I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH

AND THEN IN COLLEGE I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH
TRADITIONAL LOG BUILDER AND THAT

OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH
TRADITIONAL LOG BUILDER AND THAT
GOT ME STARTED WITH ANTIQUE

TRADITIONAL LOG BUILDER AND THAT
GOT ME STARTED WITH ANTIQUE
TOOLS AND OLDER, TRADITIONAL

GOT ME STARTED WITH ANTIQUE
TOOLS AND OLDER, TRADITIONAL
METHODS, AND SO FROM THERE,

TOOLS AND OLDER, TRADITIONAL
METHODS, AND SO FROM THERE,
COMING BACK HOME AFTER

METHODS, AND SO FROM THERE,
COMING BACK HOME AFTER
GRADUATION, I HAD THE

COMING BACK HOME AFTER
GRADUATION, I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A FELLA

GRADUATION, I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A FELLA
IN ALBEMARLE COUNTY, NOAH

OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A FELLA
IN ALBEMARLE COUNTY, NOAH
BRADLEY, WORKING WITH ANTIQUE

IN ALBEMARLE COUNTY, NOAH
BRADLEY, WORKING WITH ANTIQUE
MATERIALS AND DISASSEMBLING AND

BRADLEY, WORKING WITH ANTIQUE
MATERIALS AND DISASSEMBLING AND
MOVING ANTIQUE STRUCTURES.

MATERIALS AND DISASSEMBLING AND
MOVING ANTIQUE STRUCTURES.
THEN THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE TO

MOVING ANTIQUE STRUCTURES.
THEN THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE TO
START MY OWN BUSINESS, AND DO

THEN THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE TO
START MY OWN BUSINESS, AND DO
BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, BOTH

START MY OWN BUSINESS, AND DO
BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, BOTH
MOVING STRUCTURES, AND ALSO

BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, BOTH
MOVING STRUCTURES, AND ALSO
SELLING ARCHITECTURALS.

MOVING STRUCTURES, AND ALSO
SELLING ARCHITECTURALS.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE

SELLING ARCHITECTURALS.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
BUSINESS, THE DISMANTLING OF ON

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
BUSINESS, THE DISMANTLING OF ON
OLD STRUCTURE, NUMBERING IT,

BUSINESS, THE DISMANTLING OF ON
OLD STRUCTURE, NUMBERING IT,
RE-ASSEMBLING IT ELSEWHERE.

OLD STRUCTURE, NUMBERING IT,
RE-ASSEMBLING IT ELSEWHERE.
HOW DOES THAT WORK?

RE-ASSEMBLING IT ELSEWHERE.
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> USUALLY STARTS WITH A PHONE

HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> USUALLY STARTS WITH A PHONE
CALL.

>> USUALLY STARTS WITH A PHONE
CALL.
SOME CALLS TO SAY, I HAVE --

CALL.
SOME CALLS TO SAY, I HAVE --
THIS ANTIBELL ALMOST PRECIVIL

SOME CALLS TO SAY, I HAVE --
THIS ANTIBELL ALMOST PRECIVIL
WAR HOUSE THAT IS IN DISREPAIR

THIS ANTIBELL ALMOST PRECIVIL
WAR HOUSE THAT IS IN DISREPAIR
AND WE'RE GOING TO EITHER

WAR HOUSE THAT IS IN DISREPAIR
AND WE'RE GOING TO EITHER
DEMOLISH IT OR CALL THE FIRE

AND WE'RE GOING TO EITHER
DEMOLISH IT OR CALL THE FIRE
COMPANY IN TO BURN IT AND SO

DEMOLISH IT OR CALL THE FIRE
COMPANY IN TO BURN IT AND SO
BASED ON THAT PHONE CALL, AND

COMPANY IN TO BURN IT AND SO
BASED ON THAT PHONE CALL, AND
SOMETIMES WITH FOLLOWUP

BASED ON THAT PHONE CALL, AND
SOMETIMES WITH FOLLOWUP
PICTURES, I WILL TRY TO MAKE A

SOMETIMES WITH FOLLOWUP
PICTURES, I WILL TRY TO MAKE A
VISIT TO SEE IT.

PICTURES, I WILL TRY TO MAKE A
VISIT TO SEE IT.
THEN WE GO FROM THERE.

VISIT TO SEE IT.
THEN WE GO FROM THERE.
SOMETIMES IT'S A STRUCTURE

THEN WE GO FROM THERE.
SOMETIMES IT'S A STRUCTURE
THAT'S BEEN DAMAGED.

SOMETIMES IT'S A STRUCTURE
THAT'S BEEN DAMAGED.
THE ROOF HAS COME OFF, WATER HAS

THAT'S BEEN DAMAGED.
THE ROOF HAS COME OFF, WATER HAS
BEEN COMING IN.

THE ROOF HAS COME OFF, WATER HAS
BEEN COMING IN.
WE CAN ONLY SAVAGE SOME OF THE

BEEN COMING IN.
WE CAN ONLY SAVAGE SOME OF THE
PARTS.

WE CAN ONLY SAVAGE SOME OF THE
PARTS.
BUT THE ONES THAT ARE EARLY

PARTS.
BUT THE ONES THAT ARE EARLY
ENOUGH AND ARE SOUND ENOUGH, WE

BUT THE ONES THAT ARE EARLY
ENOUGH AND ARE SOUND ENOUGH, WE
ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP THEM

ENOUGH AND ARE SOUND ENOUGH, WE
ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP THEM
TOGETHER.

ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP THEM
TOGETHER.
NUMBER EVERY PART, DISASSEMBLE

TOGETHER.
NUMBER EVERY PART, DISASSEMBLE
THEM, STORE THEM, OR MOVE THEM

NUMBER EVERY PART, DISASSEMBLE
THEM, STORE THEM, OR MOVE THEM
TO A NEW SITE.

THEM, STORE THEM, OR MOVE THEM
TO A NEW SITE.
SO THAT'S OUR GOAL, TO KEEP THAT

TO A NEW SITE.
SO THAT'S OUR GOAL, TO KEEP THAT
ORIGINAL FABRIC TOGETHER, AND

SO THAT'S OUR GOAL, TO KEEP THAT
ORIGINAL FABRIC TOGETHER, AND
JUST RELOCATED.

ORIGINAL FABRIC TOGETHER, AND
JUST RELOCATED.
>> WHY DID PEOPLE CHOOSE TO

JUST RELOCATED.
>> WHY DID PEOPLE CHOOSE TO
REBUILD A HOME, AN OLDER HOME

>> WHY DID PEOPLE CHOOSE TO
REBUILD A HOME, AN OLDER HOME
LIKE THIS, AS OPPOSED TO A NEW

REBUILD A HOME, AN OLDER HOME
LIKE THIS, AS OPPOSED TO A NEW
HOME?

LIKE THIS, AS OPPOSED TO A NEW
HOME?
>> IN A NUTSHELL, IF THAT'S

HOME?
>> IN A NUTSHELL, IF THAT'S
WHERE YOU WANT TO ARRIVE, IF

>> IN A NUTSHELL, IF THAT'S
WHERE YOU WANT TO ARRIVE, IF
THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, IT'S

WHERE YOU WANT TO ARRIVE, IF
THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, IT'S
REALLY ABOUT THE ONLY PROCESS TO

THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, IT'S
REALLY ABOUT THE ONLY PROCESS TO
GET THERE.

REALLY ABOUT THE ONLY PROCESS TO
GET THERE.
YOU CAN NEWLY FRAME AND FINISH

GET THERE.
YOU CAN NEWLY FRAME AND FINISH
WITH OLD MATERIALS.

YOU CAN NEWLY FRAME AND FINISH
WITH OLD MATERIALS.
BUT IF YOU CAN MOVE THE ACTUAL

WITH OLD MATERIALS.
BUT IF YOU CAN MOVE THE ACTUAL
STRUCTURE, THE BONES OF IT, IT

BUT IF YOU CAN MOVE THE ACTUAL
STRUCTURE, THE BONES OF IT, IT
JUST HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL.

STRUCTURE, THE BONES OF IT, IT
JUST HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL.
IT'S NOT ONLY A DIFFERENT FEEL

JUST HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL.
IT'S NOT ONLY A DIFFERENT FEEL
BUT, IN MY WAY OF THINKING --

IT'S NOT ONLY A DIFFERENT FEEL
BUT, IN MY WAY OF THINKING --
I'M PRETTY SENTIMENTAL ABOUT THE

BUT, IN MY WAY OF THINKING --
I'M PRETTY SENTIMENTAL ABOUT THE
PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THESE

I'M PRETTY SENTIMENTAL ABOUT THE
PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THESE
BUILDINGS BEFORE US.

PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THESE
BUILDINGS BEFORE US.
THE SKILL THAT WENT INTO IT.

BUILDINGS BEFORE US.
THE SKILL THAT WENT INTO IT.
THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME

THE SKILL THAT WENT INTO IT.
THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME
TO KEEP AS MUCH OF THAT TOGETHER

THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME
TO KEEP AS MUCH OF THAT TOGETHER
AS WE CAN.

TO KEEP AS MUCH OF THAT TOGETHER
AS WE CAN.
>> AND THEN SO THE OLDEST

AS WE CAN.
>> AND THEN SO THE OLDEST
PROJECT YOU'VE EVER WORKED WITH

>> AND THEN SO THE OLDEST
PROJECT YOU'VE EVER WORKED WITH
IS WHAT YEAR?

PROJECT YOU'VE EVER WORKED WITH
IS WHAT YEAR?
>> UNFORTUNATELY THEY DON'T

IS WHAT YEAR?
>> UNFORTUNATELY THEY DON'T
OFTEN PUT THIS HOUSE CONSTRUCTED

>> UNFORTUNATELY THEY DON'T
OFTEN PUT THIS HOUSE CONSTRUCTED
IN THIS DATE.

OFTEN PUT THIS HOUSE CONSTRUCTED
IN THIS DATE.
YOU HAVE TO PUT THE PUZZLE

IN THIS DATE.
YOU HAVE TO PUT THE PUZZLE
TOGETHER.

YOU HAVE TO PUT THE PUZZLE
TOGETHER.
YOU HAVE THREE-QUARTER FASTENERS

TOGETHER.
YOU HAVE THREE-QUARTER FASTENERS
TO SEE IF THEY'RE HAND-FORCED

YOU HAVE THREE-QUARTER FASTENERS
TO SEE IF THEY'RE HAND-FORCED
NAILS 'THE TOOLMARKS, WHETHER

TO SEE IF THEY'RE HAND-FORCED
NAILS 'THE TOOLMARKS, WHETHER
IT'S SPLIT OR THE TIMBERS ARE

NAILS 'THE TOOLMARKS, WHETHER
IT'S SPLIT OR THE TIMBERS ARE
HEWN OR ROUGH SAWN OR HOW IT WAS

IT'S SPLIT OR THE TIMBERS ARE
HEWN OR ROUGH SAWN OR HOW IT WAS
CONSTRUCTED.

HEWN OR ROUGH SAWN OR HOW IT WAS
CONSTRUCTED.
>> AND YOU CAN TELL, WHEN YOU

CONSTRUCTED.
>> AND YOU CAN TELL, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THESE HOUSES, YOUENLY

>> AND YOU CAN TELL, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THESE HOUSES, YOUENLY
ONLY WORK WITH HOUSES OR

LOOK AT THESE HOUSES, YOUENLY
ONLY WORK WITH HOUSES OR
STRUCTURES THAT ARE AT LEAST 100

ONLY WORK WITH HOUSES OR
STRUCTURES THAT ARE AT LEAST 100
YEARS OLD BECAUSE BUILDING

STRUCTURES THAT ARE AT LEAST 100
YEARS OLD BECAUSE BUILDING
CHANGED AFTER THAT.

YEARS OLD BECAUSE BUILDING
CHANGED AFTER THAT.
>> YES.

CHANGED AFTER THAT.
>> YES.
>> IT'S NOT AS MUCH WHAT YOU'D

>> YES.
>> IT'S NOT AS MUCH WHAT YOU'D
BE INTERESTED IN.

>> IT'S NOT AS MUCH WHAT YOU'D
BE INTERESTED IN.
>> RIGHT.

BE INTERESTED IN.
>> RIGHT.
THE EARLIER HOUSES WERE EITHER

>> RIGHT.
THE EARLIER HOUSES WERE EITHER
MASONRY CONSTRICTED BRICK OR

THE EARLIER HOUSES WERE EITHER
MASONRY CONSTRICTED BRICK OR
STONE, OR WALLS OR TIMBER FRAME,

MASONRY CONSTRICTED BRICK OR
STONE, OR WALLS OR TIMBER FRAME,
AND THOSE CAN BE DETON --

STONE, OR WALLS OR TIMBER FRAME,
AND THOSE CAN BE DETON --
DECONSTRUCTED, MOVED, AND

AND THOSE CAN BE DETON --
DECONSTRUCTED, MOVED, AND
RECONSTRUCTED.

DECONSTRUCTED, MOVED, AND
RECONSTRUCTED.
SO WE LEAN TOWARDS PRECIVIL WAR.

RECONSTRUCTED.
SO WE LEAN TOWARDS PRECIVIL WAR.
>> HOW FAR DO YOU GOOD TO GET

SO WE LEAN TOWARDS PRECIVIL WAR.
>> HOW FAR DO YOU GOOD TO GET
THE HOUSES.

>> HOW FAR DO YOU GOOD TO GET
THE HOUSES.
>> THE FARTHEST WEST WAS

THE HOUSES.
>> THE FARTHEST WEST WAS
INDIANA.

>> THE FARTHEST WEST WAS
INDIANA.
NORTH TO NEW YORK.

INDIANA.
NORTH TO NEW YORK.
SOUTH TO GEORGIA.

NORTH TO NEW YORK.
SOUTH TO GEORGIA.
A LOT IN PENNSYLVANIA.

SOUTH TO GEORGIA.
A LOT IN PENNSYLVANIA.
A LOT IN WEST VIRGINIA.

A LOT IN PENNSYLVANIA.
A LOT IN WEST VIRGINIA.
AND LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF

A LOT IN WEST VIRGINIA.
AND LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF
YOUR PROJECTS.

AND LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF
YOUR PROJECTS.
SOME OF YOUR FAVORITE PROJECTS

YOUR PROJECTS.
SOME OF YOUR FAVORITE PROJECTS
OVER THE YEARS.

SOME OF YOUR FAVORITE PROJECTS
OVER THE YEARS.
>> OH, --

OVER THE YEARS.
>> OH, --
>> WHAT WHAT'S THAT?

>> OH, --
>> WHAT WHAT'S THAT?
>> A HOUSE WE MOVE FROM

>> WHAT WHAT'S THAT?
>> A HOUSE WE MOVE FROM
NORTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA TO THE

>> A HOUSE WE MOVE FROM
NORTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA TO THE
A COURSE.

NORTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA TO THE
A COURSE.
1812.

A COURSE.
1812.
A MICROBURST RIPPED THE ROOF

1812.
A MICROBURST RIPPED THE ROOF
OFF.

A MICROBURST RIPPED THE ROOF
OFF.
IT WAS LIVED IN UNTIL THEN.

OFF.
IT WAS LIVED IN UNTIL THEN.
SO IT WAS GOING TO BE ROOFED.

IT WAS LIVED IN UNTIL THEN.
SO IT WAS GOING TO BE ROOFED.
THEY WEREN'T GOING TO FIX THE

SO IT WAS GOING TO BE ROOFED.
THEY WEREN'T GOING TO FIX THE
ROOF.

THEY WEREN'T GOING TO FIX THE
ROOF.
SO, WE BOUGHT THE SALVAGE RIGHTS

ROOF.
SO, WE BOUGHT THE SALVAGE RIGHTS
TO IT, AND IN THIS CASE WITH THE

SO, WE BOUGHT THE SALVAGE RIGHTS
TO IT, AND IN THIS CASE WITH THE
INTENTION TO COMPLETELY

TO IT, AND IN THIS CASE WITH THE
INTENTION TO COMPLETELY
DISASSEMBLE AND IT MOVE IT.

INTENTION TO COMPLETELY
DISASSEMBLE AND IT MOVE IT.
SO I HAD AN AD IN THE

DISASSEMBLE AND IT MOVE IT.
SO I HAD AN AD IN THE
"WASHINGTON POST" FOR A LOG CAB

SO I HAD AN AD IN THE
"WASHINGTON POST" FOR A LOG CAB
BEEN I HAD FOR SALE AT THE TIME

"WASHINGTON POST" FOR A LOG CAB
BEEN I HAD FOR SALE AT THE TIME
I HAD GOTTEN THIS, AND I GOT A

BEEN I HAD FOR SALE AT THE TIME
I HAD GOTTEN THIS, AND I GOT A
PHONE CALL FROM A FELLA THAT WAS

I HAD GOTTEN THIS, AND I GOT A
PHONE CALL FROM A FELLA THAT WAS
LOOKING FOR A LOG HOUSE.

PHONE CALL FROM A FELLA THAT WAS
LOOKING FOR A LOG HOUSE.
THE END OF THE CONVERSATION HE

LOOKING FOR A LOG HOUSE.
THE END OF THE CONVERSATION HE
REALIZE IT IT WASN'T WHAT HE WAS

THE END OF THE CONVERSATION HE
REALIZE IT IT WASN'T WHAT HE WAS
LOOKING FOR.

REALIZE IT IT WASN'T WHAT HE WAS
LOOKING FOR.
HE SAID DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING

LOOKING FOR.
HE SAID DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING
ELSE INTERESTING?

HE SAID DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING
ELSE INTERESTING?
I SAID, YES, JUST GOT THIS

ELSE INTERESTING?
I SAID, YES, JUST GOT THIS
PLANTATION HOUSE, AND EXPLAINED

I SAID, YES, JUST GOT THIS
PLANTATION HOUSE, AND EXPLAINED
IT TO HIM.

PLANTATION HOUSE, AND EXPLAINED
IT TO HIM.
HE DROVE DOWN THERE.

IT TO HIM.
HE DROVE DOWN THERE.
WE PULLED UP IN THE FRONTYARD.

HE DROVE DOWN THERE.
WE PULLED UP IN THE FRONTYARD.
HE LATER CONFIDED IN ME THAT IT

WE PULLED UP IN THE FRONTYARD.
HE LATER CONFIDED IN ME THAT IT
WAS SOLD BEFORE HE GOT ANOTHER

HE LATER CONFIDED IN ME THAT IT
WAS SOLD BEFORE HE GOT ANOTHER
OF THE TRUCK.

WAS SOLD BEFORE HE GOT ANOTHER
OF THE TRUCK.
>> HE WAS GOING TO GET IT.

OF THE TRUCK.
>> HE WAS GOING TO GET IT.
>> AT LUNCH THAT DAY, HE WAS

>> HE WAS GOING TO GET IT.
>> AT LUNCH THAT DAY, HE WAS
TRYING TO GET ME DOWN ON THE

>> AT LUNCH THAT DAY, HE WAS
TRYING TO GET ME DOWN ON THE
PRICE.

TRYING TO GET ME DOWN ON THE
PRICE.
I TOLD HIM, I SAID, LOOK, I'VE

PRICE.
I TOLD HIM, I SAID, LOOK, I'VE
GOT FIVE DAUGHTERS AND THEY ALL

I TOLD HIM, I SAID, LOOK, I'VE
GOT FIVE DAUGHTERS AND THEY ALL
NEED SHOES.

GOT FIVE DAUGHTERS AND THEY ALL
NEED SHOES.
HE NEVER FORGOT.

NEED SHOES.
HE NEVER FORGOT.
STILL HASN'T.

HE NEVER FORGOT.
STILL HASN'T.
FOR ABOUT FIVE OAR -- OR SIX

STILL HASN'T.
FOR ABOUT FIVE OAR -- OR SIX
YEARS HE GAVE EACH ONE OF THE

FOR ABOUT FIVE OAR -- OR SIX
YEARS HE GAVE EACH ONE OF THE
DAUGHTERS A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR

YEARS HE GAVE EACH ONE OF THE
DAUGHTERS A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR
SHOES AT CHRISTMAS.

DAUGHTERS A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR
SHOES AT CHRISTMAS.
>> I LOVE THAT.

SHOES AT CHRISTMAS.
>> I LOVE THAT.
>> WE HAVE BECOME GREAT FRIENDS

>> I LOVE THAT.
>> WE HAVE BECOME GREAT FRIENDS
SINCE THEN.

>> WE HAVE BECOME GREAT FRIENDS
SINCE THEN.
IT WAS A REALLY GREAT HOUSE,

SINCE THEN.
IT WAS A REALLY GREAT HOUSE,
GREAT MATERIALS.

IT WAS A REALLY GREAT HOUSE,
GREAT MATERIALS.
ANY OF THESE EARLY HOUSES ARE A

GREAT MATERIALS.
ANY OF THESE EARLY HOUSES ARE A
REAL TESTIMONY TO THE CRAFTSMEN

ANY OF THESE EARLY HOUSES ARE A
REAL TESTIMONY TO THE CRAFTSMEN
THAT CAME BEFORE US AND THAT'S

REAL TESTIMONY TO THE CRAFTSMEN
THAT CAME BEFORE US AND THAT'S
ONE OF THE REASONS WE TRY TO

THAT CAME BEFORE US AND THAT'S
ONE OF THE REASONS WE TRY TO
KEEP THEM ALTOGETHER.

ONE OF THE REASONS WE TRY TO
KEEP THEM ALTOGETHER.
>> WHILE YOU'RE TAKING THEM

KEEP THEM ALTOGETHER.
>> WHILE YOU'RE TAKING THEM
APART YOU FIND TREASURES.

>> WHILE YOU'RE TAKING THEM
APART YOU FIND TREASURES.
>> WE DO.

APART YOU FIND TREASURES.
>> WE DO.
>> TELL ME ABOUT THOSE.

>> WE DO.
>> TELL ME ABOUT THOSE.
>> THINGS LIKE THIS BRICK THAT

>> TELL ME ABOUT THOSE.
>> THINGS LIKE THIS BRICK THAT
HAD A INFANT'S FOOTPRINT IN IT.

>> THINGS LIKE THIS BRICK THAT
HAD A INFANT'S FOOTPRINT IN IT.
WE HAD JUST, JUST ABOUT

HAD A INFANT'S FOOTPRINT IN IT.
WE HAD JUST, JUST ABOUT
COMPLETELY DISASSEMBLED THIS

WE HAD JUST, JUST ABOUT
COMPLETELY DISASSEMBLED THIS
HOUSE, AND JUST TWO OF US ON THE

COMPLETELY DISASSEMBLED THIS
HOUSE, AND JUST TWO OF US ON THE
JOB, MYSELF AND PAUL CROCKER.

HOUSE, AND JUST TWO OF US ON THE
JOB, MYSELF AND PAUL CROCKER.
I WAS ON THE MACHINE LETTING

JOB, MYSELF AND PAUL CROCKER.
I WAS ON THE MACHINE LETTING
DOWN THE LAST WALL OF THIS

I WAS ON THE MACHINE LETTING
DOWN THE LAST WALL OF THIS
SIMBER FRAME, AND THERE WERE TWO

DOWN THE LAST WALL OF THIS
SIMBER FRAME, AND THERE WERE TWO
CHIMNEYS ON THE GABLE END AND

SIMBER FRAME, AND THERE WERE TWO
CHIMNEYS ON THE GABLE END AND
ONE SHIFTED AND ONE BRICK ROLLED

CHIMNEYS ON THE GABLE END AND
ONE SHIFTED AND ONE BRICK ROLLED
OUT OF THE SHOULDER OF THIS

ONE SHIFTED AND ONE BRICK ROLLED
OUT OF THE SHOULDER OF THIS
CHIMNEY.

OUT OF THE SHOULDER OF THIS
CHIMNEY.
AND IT HAD THIS INFANT'S

CHIMNEY.
AND IT HAD THIS INFANT'S
FOOTPRINT IN IT, AND I JUST -- I

AND IT HAD THIS INFANT'S
FOOTPRINT IN IT, AND I JUST -- I
GOT WEAK IN THE KNEES.

FOOTPRINT IN IT, AND I JUST -- I
GOT WEAK IN THE KNEES.
NOT EXPECTING.

GOT WEAK IN THE KNEES.
NOT EXPECTING.
YOU WALK AROUND THE HOUSE AND

NOT EXPECTING.
YOU WALK AROUND THE HOUSE AND
THE FOOTPRINTS ABOUT THIS LONG

YOU WALK AROUND THE HOUSE AND
THE FOOTPRINTS ABOUT THIS LONG
AND IT'S THE SURFACE OF THE

THE FOOTPRINTS ABOUT THIS LONG
AND IT'S THE SURFACE OF THE
BREAK IS DUSTED WITH PLASTER

AND IT'S THE SURFACE OF THE
BREAK IS DUSTED WITH PLASTER
DUST OR SOMETHING, AND IT REALLY

BREAK IS DUSTED WITH PLASTER
DUST OR SOMETHING, AND IT REALLY
JUST STANES OUT TO ME -- STANDS

DUST OR SOMETHING, AND IT REALLY
JUST STANES OUT TO ME -- STANDS
OUT TO ME AND THAT WAS A MOMENT

JUST STANES OUT TO ME -- STANDS
OUT TO ME AND THAT WAS A MOMENT
YOU THINK, THAT'S ONE OF THE

OUT TO ME AND THAT WAS A MOMENT
YOU THINK, THAT'S ONE OF THE
REASONS I DO THIS.

YOU THINK, THAT'S ONE OF THE
REASONS I DO THIS.
>> YES.

REASONS I DO THIS.
>> YES.
YOU HAVE OTHER BRICKS WITH

>> YES.
YOU HAVE OTHER BRICKS WITH
ANIMAL PRINTS BECAUSE THEY LAID

YOU HAVE OTHER BRICKS WITH
ANIMAL PRINTS BECAUSE THEY LAID
THE BRICK IN THE SUN TO DRY.

ANIMAL PRINTS BECAUSE THEY LAID
THE BRICK IN THE SUN TO DRY.
>> THIGH STRUCK THEM IN A WOODLE

THE BRICK IN THE SUN TO DRY.
>> THIGH STRUCK THEM IN A WOODLE
MOLD AND THEY WERE SOFT CLAY AND

>> THIGH STRUCK THEM IN A WOODLE
MOLD AND THEY WERE SOFT CLAY AND
THE LAID THEM OUT TO SUN DRY, SO

MOLD AND THEY WERE SOFT CLAY AND
THE LAID THEM OUT TO SUN DRY, SO
THAT YOU COULD THEN HANDLE THEM

THE LAID THEM OUT TO SUN DRY, SO
THAT YOU COULD THEN HANDLE THEM
AND LITERALLY BUILD A LITTLE

THAT YOU COULD THEN HANDLE THEM
AND LITERALLY BUILD A LITTLE
KILL -- KILN WHICH YOU FIRE THE

AND LITERALLY BUILD A LITTLE
KILL -- KILN WHICH YOU FIRE THE
BRICK IN.

KILL -- KILN WHICH YOU FIRE THE
BRICK IN.
SO WHEN THEY'RE EXPOSED TO ALL

BRICK IN.
SO WHEN THEY'RE EXPOSED TO ALL
THESE ANIMALS, AND IN THIS CASE

SO WHEN THEY'RE EXPOSED TO ALL
THESE ANIMALS, AND IN THIS CASE
CHILDREN, WE FINAL THESE

THESE ANIMALS, AND IN THIS CASE
CHILDREN, WE FINAL THESE
IMPRINTSES.

CHILDREN, WE FINAL THESE
IMPRINTSES.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE MARKS THAT YOU

IMPRINTSES.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE MARKS THAT YOU
FOUND?

>> WHAT ABOUT THE MARKS THAT YOU
FOUND?
WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE MARKS?

FOUND?
WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE MARKS?
BUILD --

WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE MARKS?
BUILD --
>> THE HEWING MARKS.

BUILD --
>> THE HEWING MARKS.
THAT'S A HOUSE IN ORANGE COUNTY

>> THE HEWING MARKS.
THAT'S A HOUSE IN ORANGE COUNTY
THAT WE MOVED -- EVEN THOUGH WE

THAT'S A HOUSE IN ORANGE COUNTY
THAT WE MOVED -- EVEN THOUGH WE
JUST MOVED IT ACROSS THE COUNTY,

THAT WE MOVED -- EVEN THOUGH WE
JUST MOVED IT ACROSS THE COUNTY,
IT'S A VERY LARGE HOUSE.

JUST MOVED IT ACROSS THE COUNTY,
IT'S A VERY LARGE HOUSE.
WE HAD TO DISASSEMBLE IT AND

IT'S A VERY LARGE HOUSE.
WE HAD TO DISASSEMBLE IT AND
RECONSTRUCT IT.

WE HAD TO DISASSEMBLE IT AND
RECONSTRUCT IT.
BUT WHILE IT WAS ON ITS NEW

RECONSTRUCT IT.
BUT WHILE IT WAS ON ITS NEW
FOUNDATION, WE WERE SETTING 'THE

BUT WHILE IT WAS ON ITS NEW
FOUNDATION, WE WERE SETTING 'THE
FLOOR SYSTEM SO WE HAD THESE BIG

FOUNDATION, WE WERE SETTING 'THE
FLOOR SYSTEM SO WE HAD THESE BIG
TIMBERS, SOME ARE BEAM, AND THEN

FLOOR SYSTEM SO WE HAD THESE BIG
TIMBERS, SOME ARE BEAM, AND THEN
THE FLOOR JOISTS HOOKING INTO

TIMBERS, SOME ARE BEAM, AND THEN
THE FLOOR JOISTS HOOKING INTO
THEM.

THE FLOOR JOISTS HOOKING INTO
THEM.
I WAS GOING ALONG, PEGGING THE

THEM.
I WAS GOING ALONG, PEGGING THE
BEAMS, AND NEILED DOWN -- NEED

I WAS GOING ALONG, PEGGING THE
BEAMS, AND NEILED DOWN -- NEED
DOWN ON THE TIMBER TO SHARPEN

BEAMS, AND NEILED DOWN -- NEED
DOWN ON THE TIMBER TO SHARPEN
THING PEG AND YOU CAN SEE MY

DOWN ON THE TIMBER TO SHARPEN
THING PEG AND YOU CAN SEE MY
CHOP MARKS RIGHT HERE.

THING PEG AND YOU CAN SEE MY
CHOP MARKS RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT WAS 2009.

CHOP MARKS RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT WAS 2009.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT WAS 2009.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WHILE I WAS DOWN ON MY

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WHILE I WAS DOWN ON MY
KNEES, I LOOKED UP AND FOUR

AND WHILE I WAS DOWN ON MY
KNEES, I LOOKED UP AND FOUR
INCHES AWAY ARE THE CHOP MARKS

KNEES, I LOOKED UP AND FOUR
INCHES AWAY ARE THE CHOP MARKS
FROM THE GUY THAT ORIGINALLY

INCHES AWAY ARE THE CHOP MARKS
FROM THE GUY THAT ORIGINALLY
BUILT THE HOUSE, 1820.

FROM THE GUY THAT ORIGINALLY
BUILT THE HOUSE, 1820.
>> OH, WOW.

BUILT THE HOUSE, 1820.
>> OH, WOW.
>> RIGHT HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY,

>> OH, WOW.
>> RIGHT HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY,
ON WHAT WAS PART OF MONTPELIER.

>> RIGHT HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY,
ON WHAT WAS PART OF MONTPELIER.
ANOTHER MOMENT JUST LIKE FINDING

ON WHAT WAS PART OF MONTPELIER.
ANOTHER MOMENT JUST LIKE FINDING
THE BRICK WITH THE INFANT'S

ANOTHER MOMENT JUST LIKE FINDING
THE BRICK WITH THE INFANT'S
PRINT IN IT.

THE BRICK WITH THE INFANT'S
PRINT IN IT.
MAKES ITS WORTH WHILE.

PRINT IN IT.
MAKES ITS WORTH WHILE.
>> DOES IT COST A LOT MORE FOR A

MAKES ITS WORTH WHILE.
>> DOES IT COST A LOT MORE FOR A
CLIENT TO BUILD A HOUSE THIS

>> DOES IT COST A LOT MORE FOR A
CLIENT TO BUILD A HOUSE THIS
WAY?

CLIENT TO BUILD A HOUSE THIS
WAY?
>> IT DOES.

WAY?
>> IT DOES.
BUT THE END PRODUCT IS GOOD.

>> IT DOES.
BUT THE END PRODUCT IS GOOD.
>> AND IS WORTH A LOT MORE.

BUT THE END PRODUCT IS GOOD.
>> AND IS WORTH A LOT MORE.
>> I BELIEVE SO.

>> AND IS WORTH A LOT MORE.
>> I BELIEVE SO.
HAS A GOOD STORY.

>> I BELIEVE SO.
HAS A GOOD STORY.
>> SO WHAT GOES ON HERE AT THE

HAS A GOOD STORY.
>> SO WHAT GOES ON HERE AT THE
RETAIL STORE?

>> SO WHAT GOES ON HERE AT THE
RETAIL STORE?
WHO COMES THROUGH?

RETAIL STORE?
WHO COMES THROUGH?
WHO ARE YOUR LINES?

WHO COMES THROUGH?
WHO ARE YOUR LINES?
>> THEY'RE PART CURIOSITY --

WHO ARE YOUR LINES?
>> THEY'RE PART CURIOSITY --
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

>> THEY'RE PART CURIOSITY --
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SIGNAGE,

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SIGNAGE,
AND I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SIGNAGE,
AND I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO
KEEP IT A SECRET.

AND I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO
KEEP IT A SECRET.
BUT WE JUST ARE HERE ONE DAY A

KEEP IT A SECRET.
BUT WE JUST ARE HERE ONE DAY A
WEEK, SATURDAY, AND THE REST OF

BUT WE JUST ARE HERE ONE DAY A
WEEK, SATURDAY, AND THE REST OF
THE TIME WE'RE OUT IN THE FIELD

WEEK, SATURDAY, AND THE REST OF
THE TIME WE'RE OUT IN THE FIELD
OR SALVAGING.

THE TIME WE'RE OUT IN THE FIELD
OR SALVAGING.
SO IT STARTS WITH PEOPLE SEEING

OR SALVAGING.
SO IT STARTS WITH PEOPLE SEEING
AN 1820 SMOKEHOUSE AND A NEW

SO IT STARTS WITH PEOPLE SEEING
AN 1820 SMOKEHOUSE AND A NEW
LOGHOUSE IN THE PARKING LOT, AND

AN 1820 SMOKEHOUSE AND A NEW
LOGHOUSE IN THE PARKING LOT, AND
ALL THESE BATHTUBS AND STONE AND

LOGHOUSE IN THE PARKING LOT, AND
ALL THESE BATHTUBS AND STONE AND
ALL THIS STUFF, CLUTTER, SO SOME

ALL THESE BATHTUBS AND STONE AND
ALL THIS STUFF, CLUTTER, SO SOME
OF THEM JUST COME IN TO SEE

ALL THIS STUFF, CLUTTER, SO SOME
OF THEM JUST COME IN TO SEE
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, AND THEN A

OF THEM JUST COME IN TO SEE
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, AND THEN A
LOT OF LADIES THAT WANT TO HAVE

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, AND THEN A
LOT OF LADIES THAT WANT TO HAVE
SOME TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL

LOT OF LADIES THAT WANT TO HAVE
SOME TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL
ACCENT IN THEIR HOME, OR

SOME TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL
ACCENT IN THEIR HOME, OR
BUILDERS THAT HAVE PROJECTS

ACCENT IN THEIR HOME, OR
BUILDERS THAT HAVE PROJECTS
WHERE THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE

BUILDERS THAT HAVE PROJECTS
WHERE THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE
ANTIQUE MATERIALS.

WHERE THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE
ANTIQUE MATERIALS.
AND PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED

ANTIQUE MATERIALS.
AND PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED
IN REUSING THESE FOR THINGS

AND PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED
IN REUSING THESE FOR THINGS
OTHER THAN THEIR FIRST USE.

IN REUSING THESE FOR THINGS
OTHER THAN THEIR FIRST USE.
THAT MAKES ME HAPPY.

OTHER THAN THEIR FIRST USE.
THAT MAKES ME HAPPY.
THEY'RE DOING THAT.

THAT MAKES ME HAPPY.
THEY'RE DOING THAT.
>> THANK YOU.

THEY'RE DOING THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
I ENJOYED IT.

♪
>> THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
FOR WHTJ, I'M TERRI ALLARD.

>> THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
FOR WHTJ, I'M TERRI ALLARD.
JOIN US NEXT TIME ON

FOR WHTJ, I'M TERRI ALLARD.
JOIN US NEXT TIME ON
"CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT."

♪
>> THIS PRESENTATION WAS MADE
POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART TO THE

>> THIS PRESENTATION WAS MADE
POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART TO THE
PATRONS OF "CHARLOTTESVILLE

POSSIBLE THANKS IN PART TO THE
PATRONS OF "CHARLOTTESVILLE
INSIDE-OUT," COMMITTED TO

PATRONS OF "CHARLOTTESVILLE
INSIDE-OUT," COMMITTED TO
EXPLORING THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND

INSIDE-OUT," COMMITTED TO
EXPLORING THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND
QUALITY OF LIFE THAT UNIQUELY

EXPLORING THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND
QUALITY OF LIFE THAT UNIQUELY
DEFINE CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS

QUALITY OF LIFE THAT UNIQUELY
DEFINE CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS
SURROUNDINGS.