1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,033 >>When Maya and I first started doing this 2 00:00:05,033 --> 00:00:08,200 we had one little pony named Sassafras, 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,666 and now we're at the point where we have 47 horses, 4 00:00:11,666 --> 00:00:15,133 and it's kind of an amazing thing to see this journey 5 00:00:15,133 --> 00:00:18,166 and to see what it looks like now. 6 00:00:18,166 --> 00:00:21,133 >>Today we're going to learn about a non-profit organization 7 00:00:21,133 --> 00:00:23,500 dedicated to serving horses in need 8 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:26,233 and giving them a second chance at life. 9 00:00:26,233 --> 00:00:28,433 Join us as we visit with Maya Proulx, 10 00:00:28,433 --> 00:00:32,200 Executive Director of Hope's Legacy Equine Rescue. 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,700 Come on! 12 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:35,000 >>From my very first horse 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,566 I had always had one rescue at a time, 14 00:00:37,566 --> 00:00:39,766 and at a certain point I just decided that 15 00:00:39,766 --> 00:00:43,433 I wanted to be able to help more horses on a larger scale. 16 00:00:43,433 --> 00:00:44,833 >>Okay, so what is the story 17 00:00:44,833 --> 00:00:47,333 behind the name of this rescue? 18 00:00:47,333 --> 00:00:51,200 >>So Hope is actually the barn name for an off-the-track 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,833 thoroughbred that I owned, 20 00:00:52,833 --> 00:00:56,200 and she wasn't actually a rescue but she was on the track 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,500 to end up in a bad situation. 22 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:01,533 She had only stopped racing about six months 23 00:01:01,533 --> 00:01:03,933 before I got her and she had already gone through 24 00:01:03,933 --> 00:01:06,700 five different homes at that point. 25 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:09,133 Since that's what we're trying to do for these horses, 26 00:01:09,133 --> 00:01:10,366 it really fit. 27 00:01:10,366 --> 00:01:13,233 >>Well talk about the horses that you take in. 28 00:01:13,233 --> 00:01:14,833 What kinds of horses are these? 29 00:01:16,066 --> 00:01:17,366 >>So we take in all breeds of horses 30 00:01:17,366 --> 00:01:19,566 as well as mules and donkeys. 31 00:01:19,566 --> 00:01:23,000 We take owner surrenders we also take in 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,433 animal control seizure cases. 33 00:01:25,433 --> 00:01:27,766 They will frequently call us and ask us 34 00:01:27,766 --> 00:01:30,200 to house the horses during the case and then help 35 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,800 place the horses after the case is over. 36 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,466 >>So give us examples of, 37 00:01:34,466 --> 00:01:37,133 when you're talking about animal control cases, 38 00:01:37,133 --> 00:01:38,633 what's going on? 39 00:01:38,633 --> 00:01:40,433 >>So, the biggest one that we've been involved with 40 00:01:40,433 --> 00:01:42,300 of course is the Peacable Farm case 41 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:43,866 up in Orange County, Virginia, 42 00:01:45,166 --> 00:01:48,966 and, in that case there were 101 horses 43 00:01:48,966 --> 00:01:51,666 on the property that were in various 44 00:01:51,666 --> 00:01:55,433 different stages of starvation and many of them 45 00:01:55,433 --> 00:01:58,366 also had injuries that had not been treated. 46 00:01:58,366 --> 00:02:03,333 Of those 101 horses our rescue took in 29 of them. 47 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:07,200 At this point we had to euthanize six 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,833 and one had a heart attack. 49 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:09,800 >>They were just too sick. 50 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,100 >>They were just either too sick 51 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:15,500 or had injuries that had not been treated properly 52 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,933 and because they had not been dealt with at the time, 53 00:02:18,933 --> 00:02:20,633 they reached a point where the horse 54 00:02:20,633 --> 00:02:23,233 was no longer able to be saved, unfortunately. 55 00:02:23,233 --> 00:02:27,566 They would not have had any good quality of life after that. 56 00:02:27,566 --> 00:02:30,066 >>So tell me what happens once they come here? 57 00:02:30,066 --> 00:02:31,300 What happens? 58 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:34,300 >>So, we bring them in and then we assess them 59 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:38,600 for just their very basic health needs at that point. 60 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,466 Depending on their condition 61 00:02:40,466 --> 00:02:44,300 we don't do vaccinations and stuff like that immediately, 62 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:47,533 that's because their systems are just so depleted 63 00:02:47,533 --> 00:02:49,900 that their bodies can't really handle them. 64 00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:51,400 >>You have to move really slowly 65 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,900 with everything you do. 66 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:54,933 >>Yeah, and with re-feeding you know you start with 67 00:02:54,933 --> 00:02:56,666 just a little bit of hay at a time 68 00:02:56,666 --> 00:02:58,400 and slowly increase them, and then you start 69 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,800 adding in various different feeds 70 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,433 but you do that literally a cup at a time. 71 00:03:03,433 --> 00:03:05,833 That's one of the hardest things. 72 00:03:05,833 --> 00:03:07,933 These horses come in and they're 73 00:03:07,933 --> 00:03:09,866 pretty much walking skeletons. 74 00:03:09,866 --> 00:03:13,733 The natural instinct is to want to just throw food at them 75 00:03:13,733 --> 00:03:17,933 but their bodies actually will start shutting down. 76 00:03:17,933 --> 00:03:20,533 Their internal organs will start shutting down 77 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:23,533 and you have to kind of restart them very slowly. 78 00:03:23,533 --> 00:03:27,600 (horse whinnies insistently) 79 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,233 >>Their stomach knows, their ears knows, 80 00:03:29,233 --> 00:03:32,566 their noses know and they pace and they whinny 81 00:03:32,566 --> 00:03:34,066 and they wait for their food 82 00:03:34,066 --> 00:03:36,333 and they're a little demanding about it now. 83 00:03:36,333 --> 00:03:40,933 It's awesome to see because it means that they're healthy. 84 00:03:40,933 --> 00:03:44,400 They can understand their surroundings and whats going on. 85 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,633 Yeah, its coming, Daphne. 86 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:49,500 >>After they come from a bad situation, 87 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:51,700 they can be brought somewhere like this 88 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:54,566 and can be given the love and attention they deserve 89 00:03:56,066 --> 00:03:57,566 and really just be cared for. 90 00:03:57,566 --> 00:04:00,166 >>Yeah, its sad but you can't think of it like that, 91 00:04:00,166 --> 00:04:02,666 you got to think of it like we're here to help, 92 00:04:02,666 --> 00:04:06,100 there's no more sadness, leave that behind 93 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:08,566 and lets deal with being happy 94 00:04:08,566 --> 00:04:11,800 and getting them big and strong for their future life. 95 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,766 (horse whinnies enthusiastically) 96 00:04:14,766 --> 00:04:16,600 And he is even very happy, too! 97 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:19,133 >>You had a horse come in that was pregnant. 98 00:04:19,133 --> 00:04:20,800 You didn't even know she was pregnant, Rainy. 99 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,866 >>We did, yes, Rainy surprised us 100 00:04:23,866 --> 00:04:26,933 back a couple of weeks ago with a baby, 101 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:29,800 and my husband actually found it. 102 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,766 He walked into the barn and 103 00:04:31,766 --> 00:04:34,366 there was this foal standing in the aisle way 104 00:04:34,366 --> 00:04:35,900 which was, I won't repeat what he said 105 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:38,533 because it's not really suitable for television. 106 00:04:38,533 --> 00:04:42,100 We had just started looking at her and thinking, 107 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:44,700 boy she's getting a little round 108 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:48,700 and yet her spine and her hips were still protruding. 109 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:51,566 So she was still basically very underweight 110 00:04:51,566 --> 00:04:53,333 but the belly was getting big. 111 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:56,966 >>But she just decided she didn't attach to the baby. 112 00:04:56,966 --> 00:04:58,200 >>She rejected the foal. yeah. 113 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,933 >>And so now, who, who's with the foal? 114 00:04:59,933 --> 00:05:01,533 >>So, the donkey from Orange County 115 00:05:01,533 --> 00:05:03,800 is actually the babysitter right now. 116 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,400 I think he's a little resentful of the fact. 117 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,733 >>But they're together all the time, right? 118 00:05:07,733 --> 00:05:09,766 >>They are, they're together 24/7 119 00:05:09,766 --> 00:05:12,033 and when the baby gets too rambunctious, 120 00:05:12,033 --> 00:05:14,466 the donkey just very gently puts him in his place 121 00:05:14,466 --> 00:05:16,466 and reminds him of his manners. 122 00:05:16,466 --> 00:05:19,400 It's really wonderful. 123 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,333 >>And then you had another horse that came through 124 00:05:21,333 --> 00:05:23,700 that actually had chemical burns. 125 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:25,233 Talk about that and what you had to do. 126 00:05:25,233 --> 00:05:28,900 >>Yes, so a number of the horses from the case 127 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:33,633 that Rainy came from actually had chemical burns on them. 128 00:05:33,633 --> 00:05:37,966 The owner of these horses poured pyrethrum on them, 129 00:05:37,966 --> 00:05:41,766 which is a cattle wormer, very concentrated, 130 00:05:41,766 --> 00:05:45,466 so we bathed them with Dawn, but then many of them 131 00:05:45,466 --> 00:05:49,800 lost huge amounts of hair because of the chemical burns, 132 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,766 and we didn't know if they would be able 133 00:05:51,766 --> 00:05:54,900 to regrow that hair or not and none of the vets 134 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:57,900 that we spoke to had ever dealt with anything like it, 135 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:00,300 but they have all regrown hair. 136 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:02,066 Some of them it is a different color 137 00:06:02,066 --> 00:06:03,800 from the rest of their hair 138 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,333 and you can see the drip patterns 139 00:06:05,333 --> 00:06:08,233 on their sides from where it was poured. 140 00:06:08,233 --> 00:06:10,466 >>Well once the animals are starting to feel better, 141 00:06:10,466 --> 00:06:12,066 the horses are starting to feel better, 142 00:06:12,066 --> 00:06:15,266 then talk about their care everyday, they go walking. 143 00:06:15,266 --> 00:06:19,233 >>So yeah, many of our farms have daily turnout 144 00:06:19,233 --> 00:06:21,933 so they can be out in the field pretty much full time. 145 00:06:21,933 --> 00:06:25,066 We do have one location currently 146 00:06:25,066 --> 00:06:26,566 where they don't have any turnout, 147 00:06:26,566 --> 00:06:30,400 so I have amazing volunteers who come every day 148 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,633 and they take the horses out 149 00:06:31,633 --> 00:06:34,066 and let them hand graze in the grass. 150 00:06:34,066 --> 00:06:36,200 And we've got a couple of small round pens 151 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,300 where they can go out 152 00:06:38,733 --> 00:06:40,866 and they really enjoy the interaction with the people 153 00:06:40,866 --> 00:06:43,366 and it's great for my volunteers too; 154 00:06:43,366 --> 00:06:45,600 they like getting to know horses, and, 155 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,966 see their personalities start to show up. 156 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:50,800 >>It gives me a sense of accomplishment 157 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,466 and a reason for being here and a reason for existing, 158 00:06:55,466 --> 00:06:56,766 its something that I can help with, 159 00:06:56,766 --> 00:06:59,366 its something that seems so insignificant 160 00:06:59,366 --> 00:07:01,966 but then to these horses its just the difference 161 00:07:01,966 --> 00:07:03,500 between life and death in some cases, 162 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:08,333 its really just giving them the love that they deserved. 163 00:07:08,333 --> 00:07:11,600 >>My favorite part is running around, 164 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,533 it gets a lot of their energy out 165 00:07:13,533 --> 00:07:18,466 and seeing them very happy when they go out to graze. 166 00:07:18,466 --> 00:07:20,800 >>She's doing really well, one of the biggest changes 167 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,033 I've seen in Daphne and all of the other horses 168 00:07:24,033 --> 00:07:26,200 is their energy level, you know, 169 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,600 when you first got them here, 170 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,233 they kind of were lackluster and very low energy 171 00:07:31,233 --> 00:07:32,466 (horse whinnies energetically) 172 00:07:32,466 --> 00:07:33,700 and now, as you can hear and see, 173 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:36,366 they want to go outside and they have energy, 174 00:07:36,366 --> 00:07:37,800 they have muscle tone 175 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,233 and that's something they didn't have prior to getting here 176 00:07:40,233 --> 00:07:41,766 and getting some good care. 177 00:07:41,766 --> 00:07:44,300 >>How, how long do most of the horses stay with you? 178 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:46,166 >>It really varies. 179 00:07:46,166 --> 00:07:50,333 Some horses are in and out in a matter of a month or two. 180 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:53,633 Other horses will be with us for a couple of years. 181 00:07:53,633 --> 00:07:56,866 Usually if they're with us for a long time it's because 182 00:07:56,866 --> 00:07:58,466 they're not able to be ridden. 183 00:07:58,466 --> 00:08:00,833 They're just a companion horse, and finding people 184 00:08:00,833 --> 00:08:03,766 who want to adopt companion horses is really difficult. 185 00:08:04,933 --> 00:08:07,900 We love it when we get an email or a phone call 186 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:09,466 from someone saying we just want a horse 187 00:08:09,466 --> 00:08:11,000 to come sit in my field. 188 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,966 >>And so how do you assess when they're ready to go? 189 00:08:12,966 --> 00:08:16,133 >>There's no exact science to it. 190 00:08:16,133 --> 00:08:18,700 Some of it's knowing the horse's personality. 191 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:20,400 Depending on the horse, 192 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,633 we'll send them to a professional trainer for an assessment 193 00:08:22,633 --> 00:08:25,500 to see what they know, what they need to work on. 194 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:28,200 Sometimes they'll spend a couple of months with a trainer 195 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,300 getting them to the point where they are able to be ridden. 196 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:35,966 Also, it's matching the right person and the right horse. 197 00:08:35,966 --> 00:08:38,033 I do have some horses that I will send out 198 00:08:38,033 --> 00:08:41,600 without doing training because I know the person 199 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,433 or the person who contacts me is a trainer 200 00:08:44,433 --> 00:08:46,900 or has a huge amount of experience. 201 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:49,666 So it's a really individualized thing 202 00:08:49,666 --> 00:08:52,433 based on the horse and the situation. 203 00:08:52,433 --> 00:08:54,233 >>The hope is that they're all adopted, 204 00:08:54,233 --> 00:08:56,366 and so what's that process like? 205 00:08:56,366 --> 00:08:58,300 >>So, we have an adoption application, 206 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:01,233 and anyone who's interested in adopting a horse from us 207 00:09:01,233 --> 00:09:04,233 fills that out and that includes references, 208 00:09:04,233 --> 00:09:07,133 and we ask for professional references, like their vet, 209 00:09:07,133 --> 00:09:10,933 their farrier, anybody who is familiar with them 210 00:09:10,933 --> 00:09:13,900 and their experience with horses, 211 00:09:13,900 --> 00:09:17,100 and looking and seeing what their other horses look like 212 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:19,433 and how they interact with them is actually 213 00:09:19,433 --> 00:09:22,200 one of the most reliable I guess, 214 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,633 indicators of what the situation will be, 215 00:09:25,633 --> 00:09:27,466 and then they come out and they meet the horse. 216 00:09:27,466 --> 00:09:29,900 They ride it if it's a rideable one 217 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:31,900 and we just make sure it's a good fit. 218 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:35,500 We do a trial period, something between 30 and 60 days, 219 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:37,366 and the horse can come back to us at any point 220 00:09:37,366 --> 00:09:39,200 during that timeframe and they'll 221 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,433 get their adoption fee back. 222 00:09:41,433 --> 00:09:43,300 Then our horses also come with a safety net 223 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:46,500 where they can come back at any time in the future 224 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:49,066 even if the person that we adopt the horse to 225 00:09:49,066 --> 00:09:51,366 ends up moving it on to somebody else 226 00:09:51,366 --> 00:09:53,400 that horse can still come back to us. 227 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,033 So basically the contract goes with the horse 228 00:09:56,033 --> 00:09:58,166 for its entire future. 229 00:09:58,166 --> 00:10:00,900 It doesn't necessarily stay with one person. 230 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:03,366 In fact, I just got some photos this morning 231 00:10:03,366 --> 00:10:07,633 from a woman who just bought one of our ponies 232 00:10:07,633 --> 00:10:09,800 from the woman who adopted it from us, 233 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,166 and she sent me these wonderful photos of her daughter 234 00:10:13,166 --> 00:10:16,500 riding this pony with this long explanation 235 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:19,600 of how much they loved the pony, how wonderful she was. 236 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,800 >>Oh, that is so great. 237 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,066 >>How much they appreciated 238 00:10:22,066 --> 00:10:23,800 that they were able to get her and keep her. 239 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,966 >>That's great, and I know sometimes 240 00:10:24,966 --> 00:10:27,266 people who have to surrender their animals 241 00:10:27,266 --> 00:10:30,233 because they're not well, because they can't care for them, 242 00:10:30,233 --> 00:10:32,433 they sometimes set up Facebook groups 243 00:10:32,433 --> 00:10:35,100 so they can keep touch and see how everybody's doing. 244 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:40,000 So you started this organization in 2008 245 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,400 and it's a non-profit now and you have 246 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,200 some big goals for the future now 247 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,066 so you don't have to lease land. 248 00:10:47,066 --> 00:10:51,133 >>We do because we are currently leasing or fosTerring horses 249 00:10:51,133 --> 00:10:53,500 on all of the properties that we're using, 250 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:57,000 and we are looking to purchase land 251 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,166 and build a barn and have one main facility. 252 00:11:01,166 --> 00:11:03,966 We'll continue to use foster homes because for some horses 253 00:11:03,966 --> 00:11:05,733 it's a better situation. 254 00:11:05,733 --> 00:11:08,600 They get a little more personalized one-on-one. 255 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,866 But having one centralized location and 256 00:11:11,866 --> 00:11:14,333 having that security for the future 257 00:11:14,333 --> 00:11:17,566 that when horses do come back to us 258 00:11:17,566 --> 00:11:19,233 we have somewhere for them to go 259 00:11:19,233 --> 00:11:21,633 and somewhere for them to live out their lives. 260 00:11:21,633 --> 00:11:23,133 >>People are gonna want to help, 261 00:11:23,133 --> 00:11:24,166 I know they're gonna want to help. 262 00:11:24,166 --> 00:11:26,133 So how do people get involved? 263 00:11:26,133 --> 00:11:27,566 What do you need them to do? 264 00:11:27,566 --> 00:11:31,333 >>The easiest way is to contact us through our website 265 00:11:31,333 --> 00:11:33,233 which is www.hopeslegacy.com, 266 00:11:35,033 --> 00:11:37,133 and we need volunteers 267 00:11:37,133 --> 00:11:39,300 to help with just the day to day care, 268 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:40,966 the feeding, the stall cleaning, 269 00:11:40,966 --> 00:11:44,033 the brushing the horses, socializing them. 270 00:11:44,033 --> 00:11:47,366 We need people to help with fundraising, of course, 271 00:11:47,366 --> 00:11:48,800 it takes a huge amount of fundraising 272 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,300 to feed all of these horses. 273 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:53,000 We do need foster homes, and also just helping 274 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 spread the word that we exist. 275 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,333 We need folks to know that we are here 276 00:11:57,333 --> 00:11:59,600 and want to help as much as we can. 277 00:12:01,433 --> 00:12:02,666 >>It's sad that its happening. 278 00:12:02,666 --> 00:12:05,266 You don't ever want to see a situation 279 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:06,900 where animals are put at risk, 280 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:10,133 but the fact that we have a person in Maya 281 00:12:10,133 --> 00:12:13,233 who is so well-educated and experienced 282 00:12:13,233 --> 00:12:15,533 in how to manage these situations 283 00:12:15,533 --> 00:12:17,933 is why we're growing the way we are. 284 00:12:17,933 --> 00:12:20,400 Its pretty amazing to see it. 285 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,500 >>You're welcome. 286 00:12:23,366 --> 00:12:26,200 (cheerful music)