1 00:00:01,033 --> 00:00:02,700 >> I guess I can stab, and then say the line, 2 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:04,866 because I guess it will be more audible 3 00:00:04,866 --> 00:00:06,700 >>Okay, Yeah, makes sense. 4 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:08,366 All right. Seventy-Five please. >>All right. 5 00:00:08,366 --> 00:00:11,033 >>This is what I need to do, this is my calling. 6 00:00:11,033 --> 00:00:13,733 I need to make sure 7 00:00:13,733 --> 00:00:17,533 that more people, not only go to see black theater 8 00:00:17,533 --> 00:00:21,533 and support it, but understand why it's important. 9 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:24,100 And I want every black actor 10 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:26,100 to have the experience 11 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:31,033 of doing a show with a completely black cast. 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,366 >>Having the opportunity to work with her professionally 13 00:00:33,366 --> 00:00:35,466 here at CPG has been life changing for me, 14 00:00:35,466 --> 00:00:37,033 because she's given me opportunities a lot of people 15 00:00:37,033 --> 00:00:38,366 in this town haven't given me. 16 00:00:38,366 --> 00:00:40,200 I mean, she calls me up, she's like, "Hey, do you want 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,366 to direct this show next year? Hey, I'm trying to do an acting 18 00:00:42,366 --> 00:00:44,366 workshop. do you want to come and work with me here?" 19 00:00:44,366 --> 00:00:47,533 Always providing opportunities for black people in the city 20 00:00:47,533 --> 00:00:49,700 to do what they love and do what they do best. 21 00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:53,533 Leslie, standby, we're going to do the choke hold after that. 22 00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:56,866 If you're a live theater fan, a local music lover, 23 00:00:56,866 --> 00:00:59,200 a reader, or a radio listener, 24 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,033 there is a good chance you've seen or heard today's guest. 25 00:01:03,033 --> 00:01:07,366 Join us as we catch up with the ever busy, multi talented, 26 00:01:07,366 --> 00:01:11,033 Leslie M. Scott-Jones. Come on. 27 00:01:11,033 --> 00:01:13,533 >>Leslie, everywhere I go in Charlottesville, 28 00:01:13,533 --> 00:01:15,533 there you are. >>[Laughs] 29 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:19,200 >>So tell us, how did you get involved in theater and 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,033 the arts, what inspired you? 31 00:01:21,033 --> 00:01:28,533 >> I started literally writing my own, kind of 32 00:01:28,533 --> 00:01:31,700 I guess adventure novels you could call them, 33 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:33,200 when I was like seven or eight. 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,033 So, all of my Barbies were international spies and their 35 00:01:36,033 --> 00:01:39,033 husbands had absolutely no idea what they were doing, 36 00:01:39,033 --> 00:01:40,533 >>[Laughs] >>And they wen all around 37 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:42,033 the world saving the world 38 00:01:42,033 --> 00:01:45,200 from bad guys, nuclear weapons, the whole deal. 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,700 That's how it started. >>So it started on your own. 40 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:51,533 And then your mother and father had a little influence too? 41 00:01:51,533 --> 00:01:57,533 Yes. And then, so my dad is 42 00:01:57,533 --> 00:02:02,533 one of those... he's big and burly and a man's man. 43 00:02:02,533 --> 00:02:05,533 His hobby was redoing old cars. 44 00:02:05,533 --> 00:02:07,033 So if I wanted to spend time with my dad 45 00:02:07,033 --> 00:02:08,366 it had to be in a garage. 46 00:02:08,366 --> 00:02:12,533 The only other thing that he and I really connected on was music, 47 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:16,866 and every Saturday morning he would put on blues. 48 00:02:16,866 --> 00:02:20,433 So I grew up listening to BB King and James Brown 49 00:02:20,433 --> 00:02:24,200 and Bobby Blue Bland and all of those guys. 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,533 And then my mom did the more like bougie, 51 00:02:27,533 --> 00:02:30,033 more cultural side of things. 52 00:02:30,033 --> 00:02:33,533 So, she would take me to the Kennedy Center, 53 00:02:33,533 --> 00:02:36,200 and to Ford's Theater, so I got to see 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,533 Avery Brooks do his one man Paul Robeson show. 55 00:02:40,533 --> 00:02:44,533 I got to see the original cast of Ain't Misbehavin' 56 00:02:44,533 --> 00:02:48,533 at Ford's Theater, Meryl Streep doing Merry Wives of Windsor and 57 00:02:48,533 --> 00:02:49,866 >>Oh my goodness. You caught the bug, right? 58 00:02:49,866 --> 00:02:50,533 You knew it. 59 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:51,033 >>Oh, yeah. 60 00:02:51,633 --> 00:02:53,866 >>Well, and you set off into the world and to school, 61 00:02:53,866 --> 00:02:56,866 and you're studying theater and theater education, 62 00:02:56,866 --> 00:02:58,866 and eventually you have a family, 63 00:02:58,866 --> 00:03:01,866 and so you focus on your two beautiful kids. 64 00:03:01,866 --> 00:03:02,533 >>Yes. 65 00:03:02,666 --> 00:03:04,366 >>Tell us how you got back into it. 66 00:03:04,366 --> 00:03:07,533 >>We had moved from Culpepper back to Charlottesville, 67 00:03:07,533 --> 00:03:11,533 and I see a posting for 68 00:03:11,533 --> 00:03:14,700 African American actors for Othello. 69 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:17,033 >>Five minutes to places please. 70 00:03:17,033 --> 00:03:21,200 >> So I go, I audition, not expecting to get anything, 71 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,200 because it'd literally been 15 years since I'd been on a stage. 72 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,566 But I go, I audition, and I get Emilia, 73 00:03:27,566 --> 00:03:28,366 >>Yeah 74 00:03:28,366 --> 00:03:29,566 >>which was amazing. 75 00:03:29,566 --> 00:03:31,866 >> And you haven't really stopped since then. 76 00:03:31,866 --> 00:03:32,866 >> No. 77 00:03:32,866 --> 00:03:34,200 >> You have not stopped since then. 78 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,200 >>I really haven't. 79 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,266 >>Let's talk ... you act, >>Yes. 80 00:03:37,266 --> 00:03:40,566 >>you're also, you direct, you produce, 81 00:03:40,566 --> 00:03:43,266 you adapt scripts. So let's 82 00:03:43,266 --> 00:03:47,833 Talk about some of your favorite projects 83 00:03:47,833 --> 00:03:49,366 over this past decade. 84 00:03:49,366 --> 00:03:52,200 >> I guess my favorite is still Jitney. 85 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,366 >>Okay, so this is part of the August Wilson series? 86 00:03:55,366 --> 00:03:56,033 >>Yes. 87 00:03:56,233 --> 00:03:57,700 >>Right, so let's maybe back up and 88 00:03:57,700 --> 00:03:59,033 >>With the Charlottesville Players Guild 89 00:03:59,033 --> 00:04:03,133 >> And let's explain that. So you started with Fences. 90 00:04:03,133 --> 00:04:07,033 >> Yeah, Andrea Douglas, Dr. Douglas came to me and said, 91 00:04:07,033 --> 00:04:09,033 "I'm not a theater person, 92 00:04:09,033 --> 00:04:12,366 but I want to produce 93 00:04:12,366 --> 00:04:14,266 the entire Century Cycle," 94 00:04:14,266 --> 00:04:17,500 because part of the mission of the center is to 95 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:19,633 tell the black history of the 20th century, 96 00:04:19,633 --> 00:04:21,033 specifically of the 20th century. 97 00:04:21,033 --> 00:04:23,600 And that's what the Century Cycle is, 98 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,700 it's a picture of life for 99 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:28,033 black people in every decade. 100 00:04:28,033 --> 00:04:29,700 Well, I'm worried about what you talking about. 101 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:31,366 Bono, you going to stay for supper? 102 00:04:31,366 --> 00:04:33,666 No thank you, Rose. Lucile said she going to be 103 00:04:33,666 --> 00:04:36,133 cooking up some [inaudible] 104 00:04:36,133 --> 00:04:37,933 [Inaudible] I might be going home with you, 105 00:04:37,933 --> 00:04:40,033 might even stay the night if you [inaudible] 106 00:04:40,033 --> 00:04:42,033 >> And then the second in the series, Jitney, 107 00:04:42,033 --> 00:04:43,533 now that was one of your favorites. 108 00:04:43,533 --> 00:04:45,233 >>Yes. So Jitney is set 109 00:04:45,233 --> 00:04:47,100 in the Hill District of Pittsburgh, 110 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:50,033 right at the point of another round of gentrification. 111 00:04:50,033 --> 00:04:53,433 It's centered around a cab company. 112 00:04:53,433 --> 00:04:57,366 they discover pretty early in the play that it's going to be 113 00:04:57,366 --> 00:05:00,400 taken over by eminent domain and torn down. 114 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,766 so they have to decide whether or not they're going to fight 115 00:05:03,766 --> 00:05:06,633 to keep their business and their livelihood. 116 00:05:06,633 --> 00:05:10,233 And a week and a half before we open, 117 00:05:10,233 --> 00:05:12,133 August 11th and 12th happens, 118 00:05:12,133 --> 00:05:13,233 >> Right. 119 00:05:13,233 --> 00:05:14,933 and every single member 120 00:05:14,933 --> 00:05:17,500 of my cast and crew, including me, 121 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:20,333 were on the streets that day. 122 00:05:20,333 --> 00:05:24,066 So that one's always going to be closest to me. 123 00:05:24,066 --> 00:05:28,533 It wasn't just telling a black story anymore. 124 00:05:28,533 --> 00:05:33,933 It really brought it home to everybody on that stage that 125 00:05:33,933 --> 00:05:36,633 through telling this story 126 00:05:36,633 --> 00:05:40,066 we are proving our humanity. 127 00:05:40,066 --> 00:05:42,600 >>Leslie is a great component, and a great activist 128 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,133 for Jefferson School, 129 00:05:44,133 --> 00:05:45,100 no t just Charlottesville Players Guild 130 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:47,500 and saying, "Look, we've got stories we need to tell. 131 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:48,466 And it's our job to tell them, 132 00:05:48,466 --> 00:05:50,033 because no one else is going to do it. 133 00:05:50,033 --> 00:05:52,333 >>People of color, marginalized people 134 00:05:52,333 --> 00:05:55,033 she is willing to uplift those people 135 00:05:55,033 --> 00:05:56,900 in the space of theater, 136 00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:59,500 and making theater more equitable for the people 137 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:00,500 of Charlottesville. 138 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:02,500 >>All right, now talk about BlackMac. 139 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:05,266 Yes. So BlackMac came out 140 00:06:05,266 --> 00:06:07,900 of a conversation one night, 141 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:09,266 And Ti turns to me and says, 142 00:06:09,266 --> 00:06:11,866 "So what's the next show?" 143 00:06:11,866 --> 00:06:13,100 I said, "I don't know." 144 00:06:13,100 --> 00:06:14,266 And Richelle says, 145 00:06:14,266 --> 00:06:16,733 "Oh, we should do Macbeth." 146 00:06:16,733 --> 00:06:19,300 And T says, "Oh yeah, 147 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:21,100 and I should direct it." 148 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:23,466 And I was like, "Oh yeah, that'd be a good idea." 149 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:25,533 And Richelle goes, "And I'll play Lady Macbeth." 150 00:06:25,533 --> 00:06:27,033 I was like, "Done." 151 00:06:27,033 --> 00:06:28,533 It was really amazing. 152 00:06:28,533 --> 00:06:32,333 And I love the way she adapted the script 153 00:06:32,333 --> 00:06:36,300 to really encompass the African diaspora, 154 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:39,933 and really bring that as a layer on to the 155 00:06:39,933 --> 00:06:41,733 Shakespearian language. 156 00:06:41,733 --> 00:06:45,400 You know, Ooh, he's so extra. 157 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,200 >>[laughs] Oh that's great. 158 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,000 >>Completely fit in Shakespeare. 159 00:06:48,166 --> 00:06:50,033 >>Oh, that's great. Okay, talk about Hambone. 160 00:06:50,033 --> 00:06:52,633 >>So yeah, we wanted to do it was like, okay, so we did 161 00:06:52,633 --> 00:06:57,533 this kind of other wordly kind of thing with Shakespeare. 162 00:06:57,533 --> 00:07:00,133 Let's bring it a little closer to home and do like a 163 00:07:00,133 --> 00:07:01,933 black family drama, 164 00:07:01,933 --> 00:07:04,500 grieving what happened and trying to figure out a way 165 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:06,533 to move forward. 166 00:07:06,533 --> 00:07:09,233 >> Here, Othello, take my napkin, wipe thy face. 167 00:07:09,233 --> 00:07:12,433 The queen carouses to Hambone's fortunes. 168 00:07:12,433 --> 00:07:14,466 >> Gertrude, do not drink. 169 00:07:14,466 --> 00:07:17,966 >> I pray you'll pardon me, my lord. I will. 170 00:07:17,966 --> 00:07:21,066 >> It is the poisoned cup. It is too late. 171 00:07:21,066 --> 00:07:24,033 >> Come let me wipe thy face. 172 00:07:24,033 --> 00:07:26,166 >> I think the role that Leslie plays in our community 173 00:07:26,166 --> 00:07:31,366 is bringing a lot of artists and people out of their shells 174 00:07:31,366 --> 00:07:32,933 and trying different things. 175 00:07:32,933 --> 00:07:35,433 I know she did that with me and I love it. 176 00:07:35,433 --> 00:07:39,700 [fight scene] ...they are incensed. 177 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:43,500 [inaudible] 178 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:45,566 >>All right, and hold. 179 00:07:45,566 --> 00:07:48,600 >>Music. You know, music is a big thing to you. 180 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,300 >>Yes. 181 00:07:49,733 --> 00:07:51,433 >>And you and your buddy, Richelle Claiborne, who is 182 00:07:51,433 --> 00:07:52,700 an amazing musician, 183 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:53,666 >>Oh, my God. 184 00:07:53,666 --> 00:07:57,000 >>You've partnered on... you were involved in an 185 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Aretha Franklin tribute- 186 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,433 >>Yeah, that we did in Pennsylvania. 187 00:08:00,433 --> 00:08:02,000 >>And another tribute... 188 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,600 >>A Nina Simone tribute. 189 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,600 >>Oh, Nina Simone. 190 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,333 >>Yeah. 191 00:08:05,333 --> 00:08:06,600 >>Yeah. 192 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,933 Yeah. And once again, that's something I kind 193 00:08:09,933 --> 00:08:12,033 of got pushed back into. 194 00:08:12,033 --> 00:08:15,433 I'm a Southern woman, of course I grew up 195 00:08:15,433 --> 00:08:17,033 singing in the choir, of course. 196 00:08:17,033 --> 00:08:18,600 but I hadn't sung in public 197 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,166 for a really long time. 198 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:23,400 And then I met this wonderful man who's a musician 199 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,866 and a composer and he goes, 200 00:08:24,866 --> 00:08:26,700 "You need to sing again." 201 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:28,400 >>So, here you are out there singing. 202 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,466 >>So, here I am out there singing. 203 00:08:30,466 --> 00:08:32,133 >>And you write. You have books that you've written, 204 00:08:32,133 --> 00:08:32,833 >>Yes. 205 00:08:33,300 --> 00:08:34,333 >>I don't know if there are any Barbie dolls involved 206 00:08:34,333 --> 00:08:35,833 anymore but. >>No. No Barbies. 207 00:08:35,833 --> 00:08:38,900 >>But books. You contribute in the community 208 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:40,500 to different papers, 209 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:43,700 and you have a podcast radio show. 210 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:44,566 >>Yes. 211 00:08:44,566 --> 00:08:46,866 I'm always busy. I am always busy. 212 00:08:46,866 --> 00:08:48,833 >>I, I would, yeah! 213 00:08:48,833 --> 00:08:53,433 >> There is, and I come by it honestly, I did not steal it. 214 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:58,666 My mother was possibly the busiest person I've ever met, 215 00:08:58,666 --> 00:08:59,933 and she still is. 216 00:08:59,933 --> 00:09:03,400 There was always a meeting to go to, or 217 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,400 an event that had to be planned. 218 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,766 To me that's what you're supposed to do. 219 00:09:08,766 --> 00:09:10,633 Like, if you are sitting at home and doing nothing, 220 00:09:10,633 --> 00:09:11,666 something is wrong. 221 00:09:11,666 --> 00:09:13,066 You are doing it wrong. 222 00:09:13,066 --> 00:09:15,400 >>Well, what I love, too, is that 223 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,600 you took the time to raise your children. 224 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,100 >>Yeah. 225 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,366 You know, you did that, 226 00:09:20,366 --> 00:09:22,000 and now you have been doing this. 227 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,433 You are back to your first love, or your second love, 228 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:25,833 because your kids are your first love. 229 00:09:25,833 --> 00:09:26,833 But you're back to this. 230 00:09:26,933 --> 00:09:29,333 What kind of advice do you have for people who are 231 00:09:29,333 --> 00:09:30,966 passionate about the arts, 232 00:09:30,966 --> 00:09:32,266 no matter how old they are, 233 00:09:32,266 --> 00:09:34,600 no matter where they are in their stage of life? 234 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,100 >>A lot of people think that 235 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:40,766 that you're going to get from here to there 236 00:09:40,766 --> 00:09:43,666 and it's going to be instantaneous. 237 00:09:43,666 --> 00:09:45,766 And it's like, no, 238 00:09:45,766 --> 00:09:47,366 getting there 239 00:09:47,366 --> 00:09:49,500 is 20 years of hard work. 240 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:50,166 >>Yeah. 241 00:09:50,166 --> 00:09:52,200 >It doesn't matter if there is 242 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,466 winning an Oscar, 243 00:09:53,466 --> 00:09:53,933 >>Right. 244 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:56,000 >>Or, if there is starring in a musical at your 245 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,533 local community theater, 246 00:09:57,533 --> 00:10:00,233 it doesn't matter what the destination is, 247 00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:02,800 there's always work in the middle. 248 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,333 >>Yeah. And you have to enjoy this. 249 00:10:04,333 --> 00:10:05,866 >>And you have to be here. 250 00:10:05,866 --> 00:10:07,333 >>If you're s- looking at this the whole time, 251 00:10:07,333 --> 00:10:08,200 how are you going to enjoy that? 252 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,833 >>Right. You have to be in the moment, 253 00:10:10,833 --> 00:10:13,100 present, and figure it out. 254 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:14,233 >>Yeah. 255 00:10:14,233 --> 00:10:16,366 >>And the wonderful thing that I love 256 00:10:16,366 --> 00:10:18,300 about community theater 257 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:21,100 is that there's always going to be people 258 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:22,066 to catch you. 259 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,433 There's always going to be people to support you. 260 00:10:24,433 --> 00:10:27,000 There's always goint to be this mini family that's 261 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,566 cr eated when you do a show 262 00:10:29,566 --> 00:10:33,833 >>And collaboration, you collaborate constantly. 263 00:10:33,833 --> 00:10:34,333 >>Yes. 264 00:10:34,933 --> 00:10:36,533 >>And that just makes the experience even richer. 265 00:10:36,533 --> 00:10:38,033 And shares it with more people. 266 00:10:38,033 --> 00:10:40,833 >>Yeah, because you're never going to have every idea. 267 00:10:40,833 --> 00:10:42,866 It's absolutely impossible 268 00:10:42,866 --> 00:10:45,233 that you're going to have every good idea all the time. 269 00:10:45,233 --> 00:10:46,200 >>Right. 270 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,233 >>So it's important that you get other people in the room. 271 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:51,533 And people from different perspectives, like that 272 00:10:51,533 --> 00:10:53,766 that's why I... that's another reason why I like 273 00:10:53,766 --> 00:10:55,666 having diverse casts, 274 00:10:55,666 --> 00:10:59,433 especially in age and experience, because that 275 00:10:59,433 --> 00:11:02,733 because that person who just walks off the street and 276 00:11:02,733 --> 00:11:06,866 has never been on a stage before could have the idea 277 00:11:06,866 --> 00:11:10,200 that makes whatever is wrong in this moment 278 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,700 come together in a way that no one else in the room could. 279 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:14,733 >>Yeah. 280 00:11:14,733 --> 00:11:16,566 >>And we need that. 281 00:11:16,566 --> 00:11:19,866 >>Go, bring these ladies to where young Hambone is. 282 00:11:19,866 --> 00:11:22,500 [inaudible] 283 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:25,033 >>She will always 284 00:11:25,033 --> 00:11:27,733 do the best 285 00:11:27,733 --> 00:11:31,566 to put black people forefront in the theater. 286 00:11:31,566 --> 00:11:33,766 People of color, marginalized people, 287 00:11:33,766 --> 00:11:37,233 she is willing to uplift those people 288 00:11:37,233 --> 00:11:39,933 in the space of theater, and 289 00:11:39,933 --> 00:11:42,766 ever since I've know her she has worked toward that goal 290 00:11:42,766 --> 00:11:44,933 and making theater more equitable for 291 00:11:44,933 --> 00:11:46,533 the people of Charlottesville. 292 00:11:46,533 --> 00:11:47,700 >>You never know what you can do 293 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:48,833 until you actually do it. 294 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:52,500 And Leslie is very good at bringing that out in people. 295 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:53,800 >>Leslie is a great component 296 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,200 an d a great activist for Jefferson School. 297 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,566 not just Charlottesville Players Guild, 298 00:11:57,566 --> 00:11:59,866 in saying, "Look, we've got stories we need to tell, 299 00:11:59,866 --> 00:12:00,800 and it's our job to tell them, 300 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,266 because no one else is going to do it." 301 00:12:02,266 --> 00:12:03,500 I don't know what Charlottesville 302 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:06,000 would do without her. 303 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,033 Ophelia [inaudible]