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>>So David, the Charlottesville
community knows you

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as a feature writer
for the Daily Progress

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but I'd like to start
out talking a little bit

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about your past.

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Tell us about joining the Army.

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>>No, I can't tell
you about that.

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>>(laughs) You'd
have to shoot me.

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(laughs)

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That's sort of true.

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>>I was somewhat of a disaster.

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Well, I was a disaster
in high school.

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I decided to join the
Army when I was 17

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and my parents were happy

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to sign off on that.

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And I went in

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and my first tour was in Korea.

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And then I came back,

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and I wasn't back
but a couple months

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and I was assigned to
First Calvary Division

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and they'd come
down with the orders

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and this is 1965 for Vietnam.

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So I went over.

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Started there, really.

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>>So you stayed in the Army

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for a couple of years, left

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and then came back

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to join the Jump School?

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>>Yeah, I was in for three years

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and then I had a break
of about nine months

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and that wasn't
really working out.

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There was a lot of
residue left from Vietnam.

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I'd been in some major battles

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and coming back
from that I remember

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when I first got
home the first night,

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I kept opening up
the refrigerator and
shutting the door

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because it was so foreign to me

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that I could just reach in
and grab a cold whatever

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and just the lights and all that

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because I had basically been
in the field for a year.

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>>Right.

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>>So, I just didn't adjust.

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And after nine months
I decided to go back in

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and there'd been a lot of
paratroopers in the First Cav

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and I really liked those guys.

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And so I said, if
I'm going back in,

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I wanna, you know, at least
try to be a paratrooper.

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So when I was in Jump School,

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the instructor came up and said,

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if any of you guys think
you wanna be snake eaters

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which we call
special forces guys.

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>>Okay.

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>>That guy'll, you
know, talk to you.

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So everybody 200 guys go over.

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Out of those 200
guys took the test,

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six of us came down for
orders for special forces.

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And out of those six guys,

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two of us graduated

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>>Oh.

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>>about a year later.

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>>Why do you think you made it?

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>>It was a miracle.

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This is a completely...

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You can watch as many
programs on television

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about special forces training

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but until you actually
go through it,

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you have absolutely no idea.

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And every day, you're being
tested in one way or another.

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And the perfect example
of this is I was there

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for about a month in training

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and I was changing a light bulb.

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A light bulb had burned out in
our hallway in the barracks.

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And one of the Glow
in the Dark Guys,

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these are the guys
that teach us.

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These are the guys who have
to accept you into the family.

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And he said, "Give me that."

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And so handed him
the light bulb.

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He smashed it on the floor.

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He picked up this
big shard of glass.

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He handed to me
and says, "Eat it."

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And I took this shard of glass

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and I put it in my mouth

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and I bit down on it fully
expecting it to cut me up.

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But it turned into
little granules of sand,

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completely harmless,

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which he obviously knew.

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But this was a test,

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and he just kind of
nods and walks away.

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>>Try to explain to
me the difference

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between a soldier
and the Green Beret.

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>>In our creed, it says,

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"We will never surrender
though we'd be the last."

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Which means we die in place.

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We don't surrender.

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We die in place.

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It doesn't matter
if we're the last.

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And I think a country has to
have those kinds of people

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with that kind of mentality is

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that we don't surrender.

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And if you're gonna take us on,

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you're gonna pay

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and you're gonna pay dearly.

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>>So now I didn't
hear this from you,

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but I saw a photograph of
you wearing a Purple Heart.

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You wanna tell us about that?

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>>That's just obviously a
medal that you don't wanna get.

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But we were on a mission
into North Vietnam

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and on the fifth
day we're supposed

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to be getting
pulled out that day.

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And it was around noon.

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And we'd been
surrounded by these guys

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for that whole
time that we're in,

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but I heard some noise

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up to the side of our position.

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And I went down there to...

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Crawled down there basically

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to see what was going on.

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And I heard some rustling.

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I knew it was some
NVA coming up there.

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We were on a ridge.

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And so I pulled out a grenade

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and pulled the pin
out of the grenade.

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And about that time I heard
a thump up in front of me

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and the NVA down below
me had thrown a grenade

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up towards me

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and about then it goes off.

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And I feel a searing
pain in my neck.

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And so my first thought was
to get rid of this grenade

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with the pin out of it.

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And I knew where that guy was

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and then put it down there

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and got him

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and then everything erupts,

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and we get into a big gunfight.

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So at one point I was
up against the tree

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and these bullets
started to hit right

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above my head in the tree.

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And I rolled over on my side
to get lowered to the ground.

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And the blood that had
pooled in my lap just poured

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onto the ground like a bucket

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because I bled that much
in a short period of time.

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And then I just started
to go into shock

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and my vision started
to close down.

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And fortunately, Hanger
and Trepier, got up to me,

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put a pressure bandage on there

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and got the bleeding to stop.

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But when the helicopters
came in finally,

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and I can tell a
story without saying

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how courageous those guys were

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because this was bad
news all the way around

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but they did,

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and we got back to Da Nang.

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And I consider it my
best day of my life

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because everybody was
there was hugging us

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and, you know, that whole, it
was just a magnificent moment.

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>>Your best day.

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>>Yeah, definitely my best day.

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>>All right, so
after nine years,

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you left.

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Tell us a little bit about that

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and how you ended
up as a writer.

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>>I had told myself

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when my dear friend
Bill Brown was killed,

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and I'd just come back

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and they told me

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that the whole
team had been lost.

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And I took it
stoically at the time.

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I just nodded

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because, you know, I'd heard
that kind of news before.

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And, but that
night I was walking

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by his hooch

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and it was his
parents had sent him

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a little artificial
Christmas tree.

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And before they went
out on the mission,

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we had trimmed this
Christmas tree.

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And that night I'm
walking past the hooch

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and the wind blew the door open,

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and I looked in the hooch

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and there was a
Christmas tree lit up.

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And I just fell to my knees.

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It was the only time I
ever cried in Vietnam

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almost three years
I spent there.

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And I just fell to my
knees and I sobbed.

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And,

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when I got up,

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I said that someday somebody
was gonna have to know

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about these people.

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And I decided then I was
gonna write a book about this.

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And when I got out,

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I went to college thinking

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that they could
teach me how to write

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and quickly found
out that they can't.

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And...

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(Terri laughs)

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But I also found out that
I had the gift of writing.

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And I would sign that
first sentence of that book

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for five years.

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And I was doing
this nowhere jobs,

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just keeping myself alive.

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Every night coming home

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and trying to start this book.

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When the first sentence came:

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"At 25 yards,

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the front side of the machine
gun nearly covered the back

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of the resting
soldier's head..."

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That's it.

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It started

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and I wrote a whole
book in nine months.

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>>And had you not
had that experience,

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you might not have even had the
calling to write, who knows?

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>>Well, that's exactly it.

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So, I consider the three
major blessings in my life

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to have been,

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one being accepted in
the special forces family

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which is
extraordinarily special.

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The second blessing a lot of
people don't understand this

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but is Vietnam.

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Because,

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Vietnam provided the
atmosphere for me

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to have the best friendships
I will ever have in this life

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and the deepest friendships.

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And the third blessing is
here at Daily Progress.

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I love the daily progress

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and it has given
me the opportunity

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to do the most amazing things

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for all these years.

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To be standing right
next door or next

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to a surgeon harvesting a liver

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in a hospital in
Beckley, West Virginia

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and flying back with him
and standing next to him

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as he puts the good liver

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in a person here at UVA.

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And, you know, it's just
endless all these opportunities

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that you get as a journalist

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that you wouldn't get
in any other jobs.

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So, it's just a great blessing.

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And, you know, you get
people read your stuff.

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(both laughing)

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So, well what's better
for a writer than

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to have people doing that?

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>>What's one of the most
risky projects you've ever,

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you know, attacked?

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>>Well, I'll tell you
the one that jumps

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to mind immediately is I did
this guy who's coming here

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to the area to have these
people walk on coals, right?

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>>Oh, oh okay.

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>>The 1200 degrees coals

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and it was who do
their thing, you know,

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so, everybody else
is like taking a run

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and going tippy tippy
there off of 'em, right?

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But I said to myself, you
know, I can't do that.

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You know, I'm a
special forces guy,

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if I'm gonna walk on the coals,

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I'm gonna walk on
the coals, right?

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>>Okay.

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>>So, I step off onto
these 1200 degree coals

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and surprisingly enough,

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it felt exactly

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on my bare feet like burning
hot coals would feel.

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(Terri laughs)

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And I'm going, I'm
in trouble here.

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(laughs)

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But what was really
interesting is

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that it didn't
really burn the soles

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of my feet like you would think.

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>>And you did write the article?

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>>I did indeed.

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>>Be interesting to
see what you wrote.

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(Terri laughs)

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>>Yeah. yeah. I'll have
to revisit that one.

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>>Yeah, we'll definitely
have to do that.

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David, thank you.

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>>You're welcome.

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