WEBVTT 00:00.900 --> 00:02.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - Hi, I'm John Hart Asher. 00:02.066 --> 00:04.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This week on "Central Texas Gardener," 00:04.133 --> 00:07.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% discover the deep roots behind our response to fragrance. 00:07.566 --> 00:11.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Ann McCormick explores how memories impact our preferences. 00:11.633 --> 00:14.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Susan Snyder and Mark Hathaway 00:14.033 --> 00:16.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% applied imagination, sweat-labor, 00:16.333 --> 00:19.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and innovative recycling to their first home's empty yard. 00:19.933 --> 00:22.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Daphne answers your questions and Molly Pikarsky 00:22.900 --> 00:24.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% has your Backyard Basics tip. 00:24.933 --> 00:28.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So, let's get growing, right here right now! 00:28.800 --> 00:30.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Announcer] Central Texas Gardener is made possible 00:30.533 --> 00:33.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% by the generous support from Lisa and Desi Rhoden. 00:33.066 --> 00:34.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Thank you. 00:34.066 --> 00:36.633 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (bright music) 00:48.966 --> 00:52.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - When Susan Snyder and Mark Hathaway went house hunting, 00:52.333 --> 00:56.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% their top priority was a large yard with lots of sun. 00:56.033 --> 00:59.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% See what they did with imagination, sweat-labor, 00:59.166 --> 01:00.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and innovative recycling. 01:02.166 --> 01:04.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Narrator] Sun and space for gardens, 01:04.100 --> 01:06.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% those were tops on Susan Snyder and Mark Hathaway's list 01:06.966 --> 01:10.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when they went house hunting in 2014 after years of renting. 01:10.666 --> 01:12.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% We wanted to come in and have a blank slate 01:12.666 --> 01:14.100 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% to create gardens. 01:14.100 --> 01:15.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And sometimes when you're looking for houses, 01:15.966 --> 01:17.800 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% there's already a lot of landscaping 01:17.800 --> 01:19.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that has been put in place. 01:19.566 --> 01:22.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So when we found this, we were so excited. 01:22.066 --> 01:25.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - The first straight bed that we put in with cinder blocks 01:25.233 --> 01:27.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and we decided to inset it in the ground 01:27.633 --> 01:30.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because the previous, the previous gardens we had, 01:30.100 --> 01:32.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% the water would run off. 01:32.433 --> 01:34.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We could put them sunk in cinder blocks, 01:34.966 --> 01:36.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we could water and not have runoff. 01:36.966 --> 01:39.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then we could use the side holes to plant plants. 01:39.400 --> 01:41.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% So I bought a bunch of cinder blocks and then in July 01:41.966 --> 01:44.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I thought it'd be a great idea to start digging. 01:44.100 --> 01:46.866 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% I was so defeated after six cinder blocks. 01:46.866 --> 01:49.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% It was very gratifying to finally get it in 01:49.166 --> 01:51.633 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% but it was a lot of work at first. 01:51.633 --> 01:53.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% We actually had someone help us 01:53.200 --> 01:56.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and install cedar fence posts into the ground and concrete. 01:56.033 --> 01:58.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And then we had a cattle panel put on that. 01:58.500 --> 01:59.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Narrator] Its airy frame harbors 01:59.866 --> 02:01.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% seasonal climbing crops like peas, 02:01.966 --> 02:05.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% beans, cucumbers, and even morning glories. 02:05.000 --> 02:07.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% While renting, Susan had learned the basics 02:07.200 --> 02:09.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% at a community center vegetable gardening class. 02:09.833 --> 02:12.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - I went home and we had our little four by four 02:12.733 --> 02:14.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% square foot garden that we built. 02:14.166 --> 02:16.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so it's just kind of literally blossomed 02:16.900 --> 02:19.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% from there, you know, just learning as we go. 02:19.333 --> 02:20.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - We're both from the Northeast 02:20.533 --> 02:23.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and so there's one season, only one season. 02:23.833 --> 02:25.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And my parents had a garden growing up. 02:25.966 --> 02:27.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% My grandparents had a garden growing up. 02:27.600 --> 02:29.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I send pictures to my relatives up north 02:29.400 --> 02:32.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they're jealous in the snow and the mud. 02:32.200 --> 02:33.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Narrator] To round out the garden, 02:33.500 --> 02:35.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they arranged limestone beds with a centerpiece 02:35.733 --> 02:38.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% of flowers and water for wildlife. 02:38.433 --> 02:40.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They chose limestone, like the cinder blocks, 02:40.766 --> 02:42.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% for long-lasting durability. 02:42.833 --> 02:45.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Susan] And then we played around with different designs 02:45.500 --> 02:47.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% for the limestone beds to see what would work. 02:47.766 --> 02:50.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And we wanted to be able to walk around and you know, 02:50.566 --> 02:54.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% make it easy to plant things and reach across the bed. 02:54.566 --> 02:55.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Narrator] The design allows them 02:55.733 --> 02:57.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to circulate crops every year. 02:57.933 --> 03:00.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Pine straw mulch protects plants from splashing soil 03:00.733 --> 03:02.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but doesn't clump and allows rainfall 03:02.733 --> 03:04.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% to easily meet the soil. 03:04.400 --> 03:07.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This year, statuesque onions frame the outer borders. 03:07.733 --> 03:10.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - We just mostly have Texas sweet white onions 03:10.900 --> 03:14.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I have 75 in the ground. 03:14.133 --> 03:16.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And these go in the ground really 03:16.466 --> 03:17.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% before the first of the year. 03:17.766 --> 03:19.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They're usually in by the end of December 03:19.166 --> 03:21.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% or first week of January. 03:21.366 --> 03:25.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then we're usually able to harvest them by mid-May. 03:25.900 --> 03:28.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And so when we harvest them, 03:28.333 --> 03:30.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we'll keep some out on the counter to use, 03:30.266 --> 03:33.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but then we usually chop the rest up and freeze them. 03:33.266 --> 03:35.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And we have them pretty much all year. 03:35.800 --> 03:37.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And we do the same thing with the tomatoes 03:37.566 --> 03:40.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% 'cause we have 13 tomato plants in the ground. 03:40.366 --> 03:43.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - My grandmother, Depression era taught me 03:43.666 --> 03:46.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% how to cut the tomatoes in half and you put them 03:46.200 --> 03:49.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% on wax paper in the freezer on like a cookie sheet. 03:49.000 --> 03:50.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then when they freeze, you pull them out 03:50.333 --> 03:51.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and put them in Ziploc bags. 03:51.833 --> 03:53.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And you just keep freezing them, putting them in there, 03:53.933 --> 03:56.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so we end up with all these huge Ziploc bags 03:56.500 --> 03:58.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% full of frozen tomatoes. 03:58.033 --> 03:59.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So then you can take those out whenever you want them. 03:59.266 --> 04:01.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% My Grandmother Rosemarie Bernardi Hathaway, 04:01.900 --> 04:06.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% she had a garden in Massachusetts where we grew up. 04:06.500 --> 04:09.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And the story that it was always something 04:09.300 --> 04:12.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that was amazing that there was cucumber salads 04:12.066 --> 04:13.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and the cookouts that our house 04:13.366 --> 04:15.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in the summer were spectacular. 04:15.266 --> 04:18.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And the stories that I hear is my great grandfather 04:18.300 --> 04:21.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who was from Italy he would come out for the summer 04:21.666 --> 04:23.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and he would go through that garden 04:23.000 --> 04:24.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and even at the end of the season 04:24.633 --> 04:26.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% he could pluck things out of there 04:26.466 --> 04:29.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and make minestrone soup or anything out of it. 04:29.400 --> 04:32.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I got really into pickling about 10 years ago 04:32.000 --> 04:34.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and she sent me all of her handwritten notes. 04:34.966 --> 04:36.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Narrator] They renovated an existing bed 04:36.433 --> 04:39.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that had been edged with composite landscape timbers. 04:39.466 --> 04:42.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - We spent a couple of days just clearing out the whole bed. 04:42.833 --> 04:45.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It was pretty overgrown. 04:45.333 --> 04:47.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And so over the past few years 04:47.200 --> 04:49.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we decided to turn it into a rose bed. 04:49.333 --> 04:52.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We've got Belinda's Dream and Cecile Bruner 04:52.533 --> 04:55.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and Grandma's Yellow and just a bunch of miniature roses. 04:55.533 --> 04:57.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - There was originally a lattice screen 04:57.266 --> 04:58.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with the roses that we had there 04:58.733 --> 05:00.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that was attached to the fence. 05:00.366 --> 05:01.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well, we know it's our neighbor's fence 05:01.866 --> 05:03.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and so we figured if they have to replace that fence, 05:03.700 --> 05:05.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they're gonna have to tear the whole thing down. 05:05.200 --> 05:06.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I built it out of cedar lattice so it wouldn't rot 05:06.933 --> 05:09.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I framed it with cedar fence pickets 05:09.933 --> 05:11.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I kind of sandwiched them. 05:11.366 --> 05:13.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% What I did was I took a eight-foot rebar 05:13.500 --> 05:15.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I just drove it into the ground 05:15.333 --> 05:18.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so it's standing on the rebar kind of the sandwich 05:18.600 --> 05:20.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% sitting over the rebar. 05:20.500 --> 05:22.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I did attach a couple of little pickets to the fence 05:22.966 --> 05:25.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to hold it in place, but if the neighbor 05:25.000 --> 05:27.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% ever replaces the fence, I'll just be able to cut it free. 05:27.866 --> 05:30.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Narrator] Young evergreen star jasmine and crossvine, 05:30.366 --> 05:32.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% along with summertime passion vine, 05:32.133 --> 05:34.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% have plans to fill the frame. 05:34.066 --> 05:35.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% The first year, they thought 05:35.366 --> 05:37.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% they'd nailed this garden thing. 05:37.000 --> 05:40.633 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% But it was spring 2015 with historic rainfall. 05:40.633 --> 05:41.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - And so we thought, oh my gosh, 05:41.700 --> 05:43.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% we just have the magic touch. 05:43.200 --> 05:45.233 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% And then we realized the following year 05:45.233 --> 05:48.633 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% when we were in drought and it wasn't so easy. 05:48.633 --> 05:49.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% But I think that first year 05:49.866 --> 05:51.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% really is kind of what hooked us. 05:51.066 --> 05:52.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And since then we've learned that, you know, 05:52.600 --> 05:55.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Texas can be a tough, tough place at times to garden. 05:55.900 --> 05:58.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Mark] So that's for us is getting a large rain tank 05:58.000 --> 06:00.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and we're trying to use as much rain water as possible. 06:00.733 --> 06:04.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The one in the backyard here is 1,500 gallons 06:04.666 --> 06:06.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and then we have a 90 gallon in the front 06:06.900 --> 06:08.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and a 65 gallon in the back. 06:08.700 --> 06:11.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - [Narrator] But they don't use their reserves on the lawn. 06:11.300 --> 06:13.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - Every February get a couple truckloads of compost, 06:13.733 --> 06:16.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% spread it out, and then let it fend for itself. 06:16.666 --> 06:19.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% - [Susan] I'm shocked at how much compost 06:19.300 --> 06:20.833 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% makes a difference. 06:20.833 --> 06:22.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - I used to do the compost pile more out in the open 06:22.600 --> 06:24.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and we realized we had this special spot 06:24.966 --> 06:28.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% hidden behind the bushes back in the corner. 06:28.000 --> 06:30.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So we have named it compost corner 06:30.200 --> 06:32.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and back there we can hide the neighbors' leaves 06:32.966 --> 06:35.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% off the street and all the bags of leaves. 06:35.100 --> 06:36.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Nothing goes in the trash 06:36.366 --> 06:38.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and of our scraps though everything. 06:38.366 --> 06:40.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% So it's nice 'cause we could have two piles, 06:40.166 --> 06:44.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% one resting, one working, and plenty of room to flip it. 06:44.433 --> 06:47.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The pond was a project that had a good start 06:47.433 --> 06:49.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and like I couldn't figure out how to finish it. 06:49.966 --> 06:52.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Narrator] The heavy clay meant backbreaking work, 06:52.233 --> 06:55.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but they wanted National Wildlife Federation Certified 06:55.066 --> 06:58.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Backyard Habitat status, which requires a water source. 06:58.633 --> 06:59.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Mark] Could have done it a little bigger now 06:59.900 --> 07:01.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in retrospect, but I really like it. 07:01.400 --> 07:03.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's a sound and, and just building up, 07:03.966 --> 07:07.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so to look like a spring coming out of the bamboo there. 07:07.033 --> 07:09.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Narrator] Nearby, they defined a patio with flagstones 07:09.566 --> 07:12.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and a cinder block wall topped with container plants. 07:12.700 --> 07:14.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% For a distinctive table, 07:14.166 --> 07:17.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Susan created a mosaic top with discarded tiles. 07:17.266 --> 07:20.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% She repurposed its base from a rotted out fire pit. 07:20.400 --> 07:22.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Susan] There's actually another mosaic table 07:22.033 --> 07:23.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% back there that I made. 07:23.233 --> 07:25.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I'd found that table at Goodwill 07:25.533 --> 07:27.266 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and it's all sort of wrought iron 07:27.266 --> 07:31.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and I found this glass plate at a thrift store for $4. 07:31.033 --> 07:32.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's fun to do that stuff, 07:32.300 --> 07:35.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% when you can be creative with secondhand things. 07:35.533 --> 07:38.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - That little bench, 20 plus years ago, 07:38.333 --> 07:40.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% a neighbor, my next door neighbor, 07:40.533 --> 07:43.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% he was a stone mason and he was helping 07:43.100 --> 07:46.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% build the Bob Bullock, Texas State History Museum. 07:46.166 --> 07:48.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so they let all the workers take home 07:48.500 --> 07:53.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the little scraps of stone from the facade. 07:53.166 --> 07:56.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so finally they all, there you go. 07:56.233 --> 07:58.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Let's make a little, little bench out of it. 07:58.733 --> 08:00.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Narrator] They turned a back corner 08:00.300 --> 08:03.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% into an outdoor kitchen with project workspace and storage. 08:03.433 --> 08:05.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% To give this new room a colorful wall, 08:05.433 --> 08:07.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they turned once again to cinder blocks, 08:07.600 --> 08:10.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% colorized with liquid iron sulfate and a paintbrush. 08:10.800 --> 08:13.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [Susan] Keep in mind though is you don't want to do it 08:13.100 --> 08:17.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% over any, you know, concrete, driveway or anything like that 08:17.400 --> 08:19.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that you don't want to turn orange. 08:19.233 --> 08:21.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Narrator] Since most of the garden's in sun, 08:21.000 --> 08:24.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% here's where they stage colorful shade lovers in containers. 08:24.666 --> 08:26.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They jazzed up the screened-in porch 08:26.400 --> 08:29.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% as another living room, including for their cats. 08:29.733 --> 08:32.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - We want to bring wildlife into this yard 08:32.333 --> 08:34.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and we have a lot of different songbirds. 08:34.433 --> 08:36.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And, we have all kinds of lizards and toads 08:36.533 --> 08:38.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and just all kinds of wildlife. 08:38.033 --> 08:40.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So we, we don't want them out here, 08:40.000 --> 08:42.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you know, interfering with all of that. 08:42.533 --> 08:44.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The porch was here when we moved in. 08:44.900 --> 08:47.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But it wasn't really used very much. 08:47.900 --> 08:50.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so it had been painted sort of a very dark, 08:50.133 --> 08:51.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% dark, dark olive green. 08:51.633 --> 08:54.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I actually grew up on a street in upstate New York 08:54.133 --> 08:55.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% called Morningside. 08:55.566 --> 08:57.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And our house was this color 08:57.200 --> 08:58.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and it was my mom's favorite color. 08:58.700 --> 09:02.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so we looked for the same shade of yellow. 09:02.433 --> 09:05.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So we had taken a course with a guy named Dan Phillips 09:05.533 --> 09:07.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% at the Phoenix Commotion several years ago 09:07.233 --> 09:09.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% out in Huntsville and he's amazing 09:09.533 --> 09:12.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and he's doing all of this incredible work 09:12.633 --> 09:15.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% with building houses for low income people, 09:15.366 --> 09:18.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% using pretty much all recycled materials. 09:18.433 --> 09:21.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so we had learned mosaic making from him. 09:21.533 --> 09:22.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - [Narrator] From around town, 09:22.633 --> 09:24.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they collected discarded and demo tile. 09:24.933 --> 09:27.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Over several learning curve weekends, 09:27.100 --> 09:28.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% they designed a tree that unites 09:28.700 --> 09:31.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% their growing philosophy indoors and out. 09:31.533 --> 09:34.533 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% - Austin is such an amazing place to garden 09:34.533 --> 09:36.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% because there are so many knowledgeable people 09:36.900 --> 09:40.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and experts who are willing to share their inspiration 09:40.600 --> 09:42.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and their knowledge. 09:42.100 --> 09:44.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So we've just learned by talking to lots of people 09:44.433 --> 09:47.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and experimenting and seeing what works 09:47.400 --> 09:49.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and trying new stuff next year. 09:50.133 --> 09:51.333 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% - I'm John Hart Asher 09:51.333 --> 09:52.966 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% from Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center, 09:52.966 --> 09:54.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% stepping in for Tom Spencer, 09:54.966 --> 09:56.633 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and today we've got Ann McCormick here 09:56.633 --> 09:59.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% with the Herb 'n Cowgirl. - Yep, got it right. 09:59.633 --> 10:01.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - I see what you did there. - Yup. 10:01.366 --> 10:02.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - And today we're gonna be talking about 10:02.866 --> 10:06.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the old oil factory, so the role of fragrance in gardens. 10:06.300 --> 10:10.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - Yes, when we're putting together a garden, 10:10.533 --> 10:11.933 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% we think of how it's going to look, 10:11.933 --> 10:14.033 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and to look at different seasons of the year, 10:14.033 --> 10:15.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but there's another aspect 10:15.500 --> 10:17.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that we don't think about as much. 10:17.333 --> 10:20.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If I said to you, "Let's go out to the garden," 10:20.133 --> 10:23.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it would immediately bring up certain aromas to them. 10:23.433 --> 10:28.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And as we go through life, we also pick up aromas 10:28.000 --> 10:30.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that we particularly like or particularly don't like. 10:30.633 --> 10:33.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I grew up in an area for instance 10:33.033 --> 10:37.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which had lots of eucalyptus trees in Southern California 10:37.566 --> 10:39.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and to this day, the scent of eucalyptus 10:39.766 --> 10:41.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% brings me back home to Southern California 10:41.633 --> 10:43.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% just instantly, there I am. 10:43.633 --> 10:46.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Memory of all of the sort of senses, 10:46.433 --> 10:49.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% really that fragrance is essential. 10:49.033 --> 10:53.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - It really connects very strongly to memory. 10:53.266 --> 10:55.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Another memory I have again of childhood 10:55.800 --> 10:57.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% is my father's parents died 10:57.833 --> 10:59.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% within a few months of each other 10:59.633 --> 11:03.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and there were stocks, the flower stocks at the funeral 11:03.200 --> 11:05.500 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and it was years before I could abide 11:05.500 --> 11:09.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% the smell of the stocks because of the sad memory of it. 11:09.000 --> 11:12.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And I'm sure everyone has something along those lines. 11:12.100 --> 11:14.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In fact, actually, before I became the Herb 'n Cowgirl 11:14.833 --> 11:17.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when I was a little girl, I tried my first hand 11:17.600 --> 11:21.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% at creating potpourri but I, Christmas, loved Christmas, 11:21.300 --> 11:23.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I adored having the Christmas tree in the home 11:23.500 --> 11:25.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% 'cause it just fills the house. 11:25.433 --> 11:26.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Sure. - With the aroma. 11:26.833 --> 11:29.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% To me it was just a wonderful, wonderful smell. 11:29.500 --> 11:30.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It was the end of the Christmas season 11:30.933 --> 11:32.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and the tree was about to go out 11:32.466 --> 11:34.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I decided I wanted to preserve that. 11:34.733 --> 11:37.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I got a little container and I collected 11:37.666 --> 11:39.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% as many of the leaves as I could from the tree 11:39.966 --> 11:41.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% to get into there. 11:41.466 --> 11:44.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So during the year, whenever I wanted to smell that, 11:44.133 --> 11:46.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I could just lift the top and smell the pine scent. 11:46.366 --> 11:49.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It was just a happy memory 11:49.300 --> 11:52.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it was a way of hanging on to that happy memory. 11:52.466 --> 11:56.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I think that with aroma, 11:56.233 --> 11:59.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we can definitely bring back memories, 11:59.566 --> 12:03.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% bring back feelings, most religions of the world, 12:03.133 --> 12:04.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% for instance, use incense. 12:05.933 --> 12:07.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% People haven't perhaps thought of that 12:07.933 --> 12:12.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but certain smells, certain incenses are associated 12:14.100 --> 12:17.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% with the divine and a connection with God. 12:17.000 --> 12:21.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so that is why they're often used in ceremonials events 12:22.833 --> 12:25.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in churches and all over the world. 12:25.700 --> 12:28.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I've studied many pre-Columbian history 12:28.900 --> 12:31.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and they used incense. 12:31.066 --> 12:34.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% There's very, very few religions that don't use 12:34.233 --> 12:36.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% some form of incense to invoke 12:36.600 --> 12:39.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% or encourage the sense of the divine. 12:39.300 --> 12:41.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - I found there's over 1,000 cells 12:41.000 --> 12:44.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that are really dedicated to smells themselves 12:44.900 --> 12:48.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% as opposed there's only four for light, or four for touch. 12:48.066 --> 12:50.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So it's an integral part of us. 12:50.033 --> 12:54.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - Scent also affects how we eat, and definitely our memory 12:54.500 --> 12:56.866 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% because if it's doesn't smell good, 12:56.866 --> 12:59.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% no one is gonna to wanna take that first bite. 12:59.666 --> 13:02.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So I could definitely see that example in spades 13:02.933 --> 13:05.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% when I would teach a class on potpourri. 13:05.033 --> 13:10.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'd explain what botanical materials we had there 13:11.166 --> 13:12.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I also had of course essential oils 13:12.433 --> 13:14.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% which is a part of make a potpourri. 13:14.066 --> 13:15.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But I waited 'till the last minute to open that up 13:15.866 --> 13:17.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% because even these tiny bottles, 13:17.833 --> 13:21.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you open that up and it just throughout the room. 13:21.000 --> 13:23.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And we got to that point and I opened up one of them 13:23.866 --> 13:26.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and one of the women went, "Oh my goodness," 13:26.933 --> 13:29.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% she could hardly, it was patchouli, 13:30.200 --> 13:32.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's one a lot of people just adore, patchouli. 13:32.633 --> 13:34.166 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - Sure, sure. 13:34.166 --> 13:36.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - And I had another every day experience once with, 13:36.500 --> 13:39.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I used to work with a man from China 13:39.333 --> 13:42.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I had a cup of cinnamon tea 13:42.766 --> 13:45.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he one day confessed to me that he just hated the smell 13:45.966 --> 13:47.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% of that particular tea that I drank 13:47.966 --> 13:50.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I asked him why and he said, 13:50.100 --> 13:51.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% "Well when I was a child, 13:51.433 --> 13:53.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% "my mom would treat me for medicines, 13:53.400 --> 13:57.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% "folk Chinese medicines, they would add cinnamon to it," 13:57.200 --> 14:00.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and so he associated it with being sick 14:00.133 --> 14:02.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and having to down something he didn't like. 14:02.733 --> 14:04.600 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% I imagine everybody, if you think about it, 14:04.600 --> 14:06.700 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% you come up with one or two things 14:06.700 --> 14:08.933 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% such as you have a really strong, positive, 14:08.933 --> 14:11.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% or negative response to scent. 14:11.433 --> 14:12.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - Sure. - To scent. 14:12.633 --> 14:14.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Well let's get into some details here 14:14.500 --> 14:16.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because we're gonna be talking today 14:16.033 --> 14:18.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% about the fragrance wheel as opposed to the color wheel. 14:18.833 --> 14:20.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think a lot of people know about the color wheel 14:20.266 --> 14:21.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but not the fragrance wheel. 14:21.500 --> 14:22.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Oh yes, we learn about that in grade school. 14:22.933 --> 14:27.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The fragrance wheel is actually a relatively new creation. 14:27.233 --> 14:31.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Of course, we've had incense and perfumes 14:31.066 --> 14:33.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and all sorts of things like that 14:33.333 --> 14:36.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% since the beginning of recorded history, 14:36.133 --> 14:39.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but they're dependent upon individuals 14:39.100 --> 14:42.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% who had extraordinary noses, 14:42.033 --> 14:45.566 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% who had the ability to distinguish once scent from another 14:45.566 --> 14:47.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to know what to add to something 14:47.733 --> 14:49.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to make it better or make it stronger 14:49.266 --> 14:51.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% or make it more masculine, more feminine. 14:51.233 --> 14:55.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And some time shortly after World War II, 14:55.333 --> 14:58.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% at the point where people were starting essentially 14:58.433 --> 15:01.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to apply science to just about every aspect of life, 15:01.066 --> 15:04.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% we came out of the 19th century wondering what was going on 15:04.000 --> 15:05.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and finally we had the tools 15:05.633 --> 15:08.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they had more of the tools at that point 15:08.466 --> 15:10.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to be able to analyze scent. 15:10.966 --> 15:14.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Still the perfume industry depended upon the nose. 15:14.066 --> 15:17.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - So as I understand it, the contemporary fragrance wheel 15:17.066 --> 15:19.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% breaks out into four primary components? 15:19.633 --> 15:21.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - When you look at them, you realize 15:21.500 --> 15:24.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that you probably fit primarily into one of them. 15:24.633 --> 15:27.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Just as you will tend to prefer certain colors, 15:27.600 --> 15:30.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I wear lots of blue, I must confess, 15:30.500 --> 15:33.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's the dominant color in my closet. 15:33.733 --> 15:35.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And probably in the scent world 15:35.533 --> 15:38.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% there's a section of that wheel that would be 15:38.166 --> 15:41.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% where I would go for say my personal scent, 15:41.133 --> 15:42.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% although for cleaning the house, 15:42.933 --> 15:44.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I wouldn't necessarily want the same thing. 15:44.700 --> 15:47.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - [John] There's fresh, floral, oriental, and woody. 15:47.700 --> 15:49.233 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 15:49.233 --> 15:52.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Now fresh, anyone who cleans, you go down the cleaning isle 15:52.733 --> 15:54.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% on the local grocery store 15:54.266 --> 15:56.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and you're gonna see little tags on it, 15:56.000 --> 15:59.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% fresh clean scent, fresh linen scent, outdoor, 15:59.733 --> 16:01.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because it's part of that section 16:01.133 --> 16:04.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% we associate with cleanliness. 16:04.600 --> 16:05.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% A significant element of that 16:05.866 --> 16:07.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% is because some of the essential oils 16:07.500 --> 16:09.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and some of the materials we used to use 16:09.200 --> 16:13.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when we made our own cleaning agents were from this group. 16:13.266 --> 16:16.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so, we remember how the house smelled 16:16.866 --> 16:18.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% when grandma cleaned, 16:18.433 --> 16:21.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so mom does the same thing as far as the scent 16:21.400 --> 16:23.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because it just smells good. - It pass on. 16:23.300 --> 16:25.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Yeah. - And you feel 16:25.300 --> 16:28.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% like that's definitely a sign that it's clean 16:28.333 --> 16:30.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% although it doesn't necessarily mean there's no, 16:30.500 --> 16:32.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it doesn't describe whether or not there are bacteria. 16:32.833 --> 16:33.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% The next one I think is 16:33.833 --> 16:35.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - [Both] Floral. 16:35.066 --> 16:38.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Floral now, that's one that will hit more 16:38.033 --> 16:42.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% into the personal perfumes, usually for women. 16:42.666 --> 16:45.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They tend to want a little bit more of the floral, 16:45.100 --> 16:49.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% lately perfumes have added a lot of fruity flavors into that 16:49.233 --> 16:52.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because of the younger generations' preference 16:52.166 --> 16:54.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% for some of those, but there's still that element 16:54.266 --> 16:59.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of sweetness and a positive aspect that goes with it. 17:00.700 --> 17:02.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Even vanilla, actually comes from an orchid flower. 17:02.633 --> 17:04.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's the pod from the orchid, 17:04.433 --> 17:06.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and it has something of a floral scent. 17:06.400 --> 17:11.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And years and years ago, out in the far West 17:11.366 --> 17:13.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% of a woman wanted to dab a little bit something 17:13.800 --> 17:15.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and she had no time to grab anything else, 17:15.733 --> 17:18.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% she could put a little bit of vanilla behind her ears. 17:18.400 --> 17:19.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% The next one-- - Oriental. 17:19.833 --> 17:21.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - Yes, now see, that's a section 17:21.633 --> 17:26.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that would include patchouli, some sandalwood, 17:28.066 --> 17:31.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% some of the cinnamon and the spices that we recognize, 17:31.666 --> 17:34.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it's starting to get onto the edge of that as well. 17:34.533 --> 17:38.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% That's something I'm sure a little bit cultural too 17:40.200 --> 17:43.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because patchouli didn't come to the Western world 17:43.633 --> 17:47.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% as I remember until about the 17th, 18th century, 17:47.733 --> 17:51.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% actually quite by accident, one of those silly things. 17:51.133 --> 17:53.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They were sending shipping shawls, 17:53.866 --> 17:55.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% women's shawls from the far East, 17:55.833 --> 17:57.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% they were weaving them in India 17:57.966 --> 17:59.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and shipping them the distance, 17:59.500 --> 18:03.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but to keep them smelling nice and I think insect free, 18:03.900 --> 18:07.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they embedded, they used patchouli in it. 18:07.233 --> 18:09.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And that was the first time a lot of European women 18:09.800 --> 18:12.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% had ever smelled patchouli so they began to demand it. 18:12.733 --> 18:15.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So again, scent coming through. 18:15.133 --> 18:16.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Really quickly with the last one, 18:16.700 --> 18:18.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% we have woody, what's this? 18:18.700 --> 18:21.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Things like amber. - The men's scent. 18:21.166 --> 18:24.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% That's more where you're going to have the men's perfume, 18:24.000 --> 18:28.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the great outdoors, definitely elements of pine, 18:28.033 --> 18:33.033 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% cedar shavings, stetson is probably one close well into that 18:34.700 --> 18:38.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because men don't wanna smell like women. 18:38.033 --> 18:39.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Sure. - Generally speaking. 18:39.800 --> 18:44.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it attracts us because we associate those scents 18:45.666 --> 18:47.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with a masculine man, you know? 18:47.700 --> 18:51.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So you just have to see how this goes. 18:51.000 --> 18:52.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The fun part of it is knowing 18:52.700 --> 18:56.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% all these different major categories 18:56.366 --> 18:57.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and looking at the little beds, 18:57.866 --> 19:01.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% you can think about what are the things that I really like? 19:01.933 --> 19:06.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% What is it when I get a scented candle that I prefer? 19:08.366 --> 19:12.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In fact, I know what my personal preferences are, 19:13.433 --> 19:15.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% most generally do, I'm looking at an array of candles, 19:15.266 --> 19:17.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% there's some of them I don't even bother opening the top 19:17.966 --> 19:20.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because I know not that one, not that one, 19:20.366 --> 19:22.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% oh this might be yeah. 19:22.166 --> 19:25.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And we just have those personal preferences. 19:25.266 --> 19:27.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - That's right, well that means that everybody's 19:27.200 --> 19:28.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% got a choice of their own. 19:28.600 --> 19:30.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'd like to thank Ann McCormick for coming on today, 19:30.766 --> 19:32.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and very interesting conversation, 19:32.433 --> 19:33.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% thank you for sharing-- - You're welcome. 19:33.433 --> 19:34.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - Your wealth of knowledge 19:34.666 --> 19:36.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% about floral scents. - Oh it's so much fun. 19:36.033 --> 19:37.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - And everything. 19:37.233 --> 19:39.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And now let's check in with Daphne. 19:39.200 --> 19:42.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% (cheerful jazzy music) 19:42.666 --> 19:45.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - We've seen a lot of troubled plants this year. 19:45.166 --> 19:47.000 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Sandy Holland and Renee Martinez's 19:47.000 --> 19:49.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% wax myrtle is about a year old. 19:49.200 --> 19:50.800 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% It hasn't grown much in that time 19:50.800 --> 19:52.233 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% but it was green and healthy looking 19:52.233 --> 19:54.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% until a month or two ago. 19:54.100 --> 19:56.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Now, all of the leaves in the top half of the tree 19:56.733 --> 19:59.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% are brown but the branches are showing berries. 19:59.633 --> 20:02.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Also, the bottom part that is green appeared 20:02.166 --> 20:03.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to be growing from the roots. 20:03.933 --> 20:06.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It gets at least six hours of sun everyday 20:06.100 --> 20:08.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and they water it twice a week. 20:08.100 --> 20:10.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% While it's hard to give an exact diagnosis here, 20:10.633 --> 20:14.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I believe this wax myrtle may be receiving too much water 20:14.200 --> 20:15.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% which may also be exacerbated 20:15.766 --> 20:18.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% if the soil isn't draining properly. 20:18.066 --> 20:19.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It appears that this struggling shrub 20:19.933 --> 20:22.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is in a bed with other plants growing very close to it 20:22.533 --> 20:26.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that seem to be doing fine, but that may also be an issue. 20:26.333 --> 20:29.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This shrub really needs its own space. 20:29.000 --> 20:31.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The good news is the new growth. 20:31.133 --> 20:34.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Wax myrtles do tend to re-sprout easily from the roots, 20:34.733 --> 20:38.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so I'd suggest putting all the dead growth back to the soil, 20:38.300 --> 20:40.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% clearing a space around the base of the shrub 20:40.400 --> 20:43.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and decreasing the watering significantly. 20:43.133 --> 20:44.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If this shrub continues to struggle, 20:44.800 --> 20:46.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% dig it up and check out the roots. 20:46.966 --> 20:49.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And monitor for soil drainage issues, 20:49.500 --> 20:51.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% making sure the soil has time 20:51.000 --> 20:53.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to dry out between watering sessions. 20:53.166 --> 20:56.066 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Jill Gaskin's Texas star hibiscus didn't mind 20:56.066 --> 21:00.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% summer's heat one bit and bloomed prolifically to prove it. 21:00.166 --> 21:01.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Tony Way is growing a Texas star 21:01.900 --> 21:04.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in a large planter on his patio, 21:04.033 --> 21:05.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's doing so well that he needs to move it 21:05.900 --> 21:08.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to a larger container, or to the ground. 21:08.866 --> 21:11.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% When's the best time to do that? 21:11.000 --> 21:13.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Andrea DeLong-Amaya, director of horticulture 21:13.600 --> 21:15.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% at the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center 21:15.766 --> 21:18.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% tells us that this hearty plant can be put in the ground 21:18.366 --> 21:20.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% anytime here in Central Texas 21:20.133 --> 21:22.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and will actually be more cold-tolerant 21:22.100 --> 21:24.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in the landscape than in a container 21:24.266 --> 21:26.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% which would lead the roots less insulated. 21:26.366 --> 21:28.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Andrea also notes that in spite of the name, 21:28.400 --> 21:31.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Texas star hibiscus, this local favorite 21:31.866 --> 21:34.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% actually isn't native to the Lone Star State. 21:34.366 --> 21:37.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's indigenous to Florida and the South Eastern U.S. 21:37.433 --> 21:41.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Sometimes patience pays off to get spectacular flowers. 21:41.033 --> 21:44.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% In Dallas, Charles Woodard grows a night-blooming cereus 21:44.200 --> 21:45.733 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% in a container. 21:45.733 --> 21:47.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It sits outside in warm weather 21:47.733 --> 21:51.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but for 15 years he's brought it indoors every winter. 21:51.500 --> 21:53.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This year, his diligence paid off 21:53.166 --> 21:55.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% with at least seven outstanding flowers. 21:55.833 --> 21:59.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Each opens in the evening and only lasts for one day, 21:59.200 --> 22:01.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but that was enough time to get these great pictures. 22:01.466 --> 22:03.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% But Susan Doss discovered a wren 22:03.400 --> 22:05.900 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% happily chomping into her euphorbia. 22:05.900 --> 22:09.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Indeed, in drier times, thirsty birds and other critters 22:09.333 --> 22:11.400 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% seek a drink from our succulents. 22:11.400 --> 22:14.066 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Thankfully, this damage doesn't appear too bad 22:14.066 --> 22:16.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I think the plant will easily recover. 22:16.033 --> 22:18.533 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Outdoors, gardens aren't made in a day, 22:18.533 --> 22:20.900 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Susan Velzy just put the finishing touches 22:20.900 --> 22:23.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% on her new garden rooms but we know, Susan, 22:23.666 --> 22:25.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% that a garden is always growing. 22:25.700 --> 22:28.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Anna Poole started her garden six years ago, 22:28.566 --> 22:30.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% took her a while since she's got a large backyard 22:30.733 --> 22:32.233 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and lots of shade. 22:32.233 --> 22:34.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Her first building project was a deck for lounging 22:34.733 --> 22:36.100 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% to watch it all. 22:36.100 --> 22:38.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Recently, she started putting in pathways 22:38.333 --> 22:40.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to an evergrowing beautiful garden. 22:40.800 --> 22:43.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% She's got sun in front, so that's where she's planting 22:43.200 --> 22:45.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% fragrant roses and other flowers. 22:45.666 --> 22:48.133 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% In Bulverde, Charlene and Michaels Lowe 22:48.133 --> 22:50.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% sent a video of migrating hummingbirds 22:50.166 --> 22:51.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% flocking to their feeders. 22:51.866 --> 22:54.066 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Hey tell us, "After planting many things 22:54.066 --> 22:56.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% "that attract hummingbirds and butterflies, 22:56.133 --> 22:58.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% "our garden has been very active." 22:58.433 --> 23:00.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And we'd love to hear your stories. 23:00.733 --> 23:03.200 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Head over to centraltexasgardener.org 23:03.200 --> 23:06.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and send us your questions, pictures and video. 23:06.800 --> 23:10.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - Next, Molly Pikarsky has your Backyard Basics tip. 23:10.100 --> 23:12.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (bright music) 23:14.200 --> 23:15.800 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% - If you would like to add some spice 23:15.800 --> 23:19.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% to your holiday cooking, might I suggest microgreens? 23:19.066 --> 23:21.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Microgreens are easy-peasy. 23:21.533 --> 23:23.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% As with all things horticulture, 23:23.233 --> 23:25.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you can travel deep into complicated town 23:25.733 --> 23:27.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% or you can keep it simple. 23:27.500 --> 23:29.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% You know me, I keep it simple. 23:29.733 --> 23:31.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% With just a few simple supplies, 23:31.833 --> 23:33.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% you can have fresh microgreens 23:33.500 --> 23:35.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to spice up your cooking year round. 23:35.700 --> 23:38.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You can grow microgreens in a super bright window, 23:38.833 --> 23:42.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% or like me with an inexpensive utility light 23:42.633 --> 23:44.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and a LED grow bulb. 23:44.900 --> 23:48.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I love those LEDs because they stay cool. 23:48.000 --> 23:50.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You must, however, situate that bulb 23:50.533 --> 23:52.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% right above your micro greens. 23:52.666 --> 23:55.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If it's too tall, you will not have good results. 23:55.966 --> 23:58.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% My bulbs usually are about 10 to 12 inches 23:58.500 --> 24:00.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% above my microgreen tray. 24:00.166 --> 24:02.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If you want your micro greens to stretch and be tall, 24:02.766 --> 24:04.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% raise the bulb a little. 24:04.300 --> 24:07.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% For short, more chunky microgreens, 24:07.066 --> 24:09.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% keep the bulb lower to the tray. 24:09.066 --> 24:11.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You'll need something to grow them in 24:11.066 --> 24:14.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and options range from grow trays to deli cups. 24:14.433 --> 24:16.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I personally like the deli cups. 24:16.333 --> 24:19.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You can reuse them and they're a very manageable size. 24:19.133 --> 24:21.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You have many options when it comes to choosing 24:21.433 --> 24:22.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% a growing medium. 24:22.933 --> 24:24.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% You can use anything from agar 24:24.866 --> 24:27.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% to a high quality potted medium. 24:27.000 --> 24:30.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Just make sure it's all vegetative organic material, 24:30.433 --> 24:32.066 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% no topsoil, no sand. 24:32.066 --> 24:34.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I use cellulose grow mats. 24:34.266 --> 24:36.833 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% This soil-less option was the right one for me 24:36.833 --> 24:39.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% because it makes harvesting them much easier. 24:39.000 --> 24:40.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% There's no soil to wash off. 24:40.466 --> 24:43.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% There are so many options for microgreens. 24:43.300 --> 24:46.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% I currently grow a spicy salad mix, 24:46.166 --> 24:50.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% a mild salad mix, radishes, basil, and peas. 24:50.233 --> 24:51.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% If you're just getting started, 24:51.800 --> 24:54.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the mild salad mix is a quick, easy one 24:54.700 --> 24:56.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and it goes well with most recipes. 24:56.733 --> 25:00.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Before you sprinkle your seeds on the seed mat or soil, 25:00.100 --> 25:05.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% make sure the seed mat is wet by misting it. 25:06.233 --> 25:07.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Next, sprinkle the seeds on the mat. 25:07.500 --> 25:09.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Right here I have some radish seeds. 25:09.666 --> 25:12.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm just gently going to sprinkle these on the mat. 25:12.466 --> 25:16.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If it looks like poppy seeds on top of a bagel, 25:16.233 --> 25:17.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you've pretty much done it right. 25:17.833 --> 25:20.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% After you sow, check your seeds daily. 25:20.933 --> 25:22.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They should never get dry. 25:22.966 --> 25:25.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Keep a pump up mister and spray them 25:25.066 --> 25:27.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% as often as they require. 25:27.333 --> 25:29.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Great news, you're going to eat this quickly, 25:29.800 --> 25:31.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% like within seven days. 25:31.333 --> 25:33.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So fertilizer is not necessary. 25:33.800 --> 25:37.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You will eat these before they even produce any true leaves, 25:37.033 --> 25:39.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so they have all the nutrients they need. 25:39.366 --> 25:41.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Once your micro greens are ready, 25:41.333 --> 25:44.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% simply cut them off and start the next crop 25:44.133 --> 25:47.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% with a clean container and a new grow mat. 25:47.133 --> 25:50.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Microgreens are fun, easy, and your setup 25:50.233 --> 25:52.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% does not have to break the bank. 25:52.000 --> 25:55.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% If you would like to learn more, please visit my blog. 25:55.333 --> 25:57.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% This has been Molly, your rebel horticulturist, 25:57.900 --> 25:59.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% reminding you to learn the rules well 25:59.933 --> 26:01.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% so you know which ones to break. 26:01.633 --> 26:03.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - Find out more and watch online 26:03.733 --> 26:06.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% at centraltexasgardener.org. 26:06.300 --> 26:09.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Until next time, remember to adopt the pace of nature; 26:09.866 --> 26:12.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% her secret is patience. 26:12.266 --> 26:14.866 align:left position:30% line:5% 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