[PIANO INTRO] - TAKE HIM RIGHT HERE. GOOD ONE, BUDDY. YOU GOT IT? WHY DON'T YOU GRAB THE FISH? GRAB THE FISH. THERE YOU GO. DAVIS, LET ME SEE THAT THING, BUDDY. HOLD HIM UP TO ME; LET ME LOOK AT IT. TURN HIM SIDEWAYS; LET ME LOOK. OH, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, BOY. THAT'S THE SAME-- YOU THINK THAT'S THE SAME ONE I CAUGHT OR BIGGER? - YOURS WAS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN THAT. - I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A FINE ONE, BUDDY. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. TAKE HIM ON OUT AND LET HIM GO RIGHT THERE. LOOK AT THERE, DAVIS. YOU DONE PUT US ON A HOT SPOT NOW, DAVIS. - [MALE ANNOUNCER]: THE PRODUCTION OF CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY: - [FEMALE ANNOUNCER]: THE NORTH CAROLINA WILDLIFE RESCOURCES COMMISSION. A FISHING LICENSE GOES A LONG WAY TOWARDS WILDLIFE CONSERVATION IN NORTH CAROLINA. OVER 38,000 MILES OF MANAGED STREAMS AND RIVERS, AND 250,000 ACRES OF LAKES AND RESERVOIRS. - [MALE ANNOUNCER]: AND BY EZ BAIT AND TACKLE, FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED. WE FISH FROM FRESH TO SALTWATER. WE PROVIDE FISHING SUPPLIES AND AD VICE TO EVERY TYPE OF ANGLER. FOR ALL YOUR FISHING NEEDS, EZ BAIT AND TACKLE. AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM PBS NC VI EWERS LIKE YOU. [LIGHT INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC] ♪ - HELLO, AND WELCOME TO THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL. WELL, ONE OF MY FAVORITE KIND OF FISHING IS CRAPPIE FISHING, AND, JOE, WE'RE HEADED OUT THAT WAY TODAY. - THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA BE FISHING OUTSIDE OF WILSON, NORTH CAROLINA, ON A LITTLE THREE-ACRE POND FULL OF CRAPPIE, AND WE'RE GONNA BE FISHING WITH A YOUNG MAN WHO KNOWS HOW TO FISH, AND THIS IS ACCORDING TO ONE OF OUR CAPTAINS THAT WE WORK WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS, CAPTAIN RICKY KELLUM OUT OF JACKSONVILLE. WE'RE FISHING WITH DAVIS BOYD, EIGHT-YEAR-OLD DAVIS BOYD TODAY, WHO KNOWS HOW TO FISH. HE'S BEEN FISHING WITH CAPTAIN RICKY FOR THREE YEARS, SINCE HE'S TURNED FIVE, AND HAS CAUGHT HIS SHARE OF SPECKLED TROUT WITH RICKY, AND SO RICKY CALLED ME ONE DAY AND SAID, "HEY, YOU NEED TO DO A SHOW WITH DAVIS. HE'S QUITE THE ANGLER." SO WE DID, AND WE CAUGHT SOME FISH. - GEAR TIME OUGHT TO BE INTERESTING TODAY. - WELL, THEY GO OVER THE TACKLE. WE'RE USING REAL LIGHT SIX-FOOT TFO RODS, REAL ULTRALIGHT FOUR-POUND TEST, REAL LIGHT, AND IT MATCHES WITH THE FISH WE'RE CATCHING TODAY, AND THE GUYS CAUGHT SOME FISH. - NOW, DONNA'S GOT A RECIPE CALLED FISH POT PIE. THIS IS A NEW ONE ON ME. - YEAH, THIS IS A NEW RECIPE FROM HER AND REAL--REAL TASTY. I THINK IT GOES ALONG WITH THE SHOW. - ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME FUN WITH DAVIS BOYD TODAY HERE ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL. - DAVIS, I'M SO GLAD YOU INVITED ME TO GO CATCH SOME CRAPPIE. YOU READY? - READY. - YOU GONNA PUT ME ON THEM? IT'S ABOUT MIDDLE OF MARCH; WE GOT A NICE WARM DAY TODAY. IT'S ABOUT, WHAT, 70 DEGREES OUT HERE TODAY? WHAT'S YOUR WATER TEMPERATURE? ANY IDEA? - COLD. - JUST RIGHT? - JUST RIGHT, KIND OF-- A LITTLE BIT COLDER. - FOUR-POUND TEST. THESE LITTLE JIGS. AND A POPPING CORK ON IT. IS THIS GONNA DO THE TRICK FOR ME? NOW, YOU KNOW THIS IS MY FIRST TIME FISHING, RIGHT? YOU ALWAYS GO WITH ME TROUT FISHING. - YEAH. - BUT NOW I'M COMING WITH YOU. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HELP ME OUT, ALL RIGHT? - ALL RIGHT. - SO LET ME CATCH AT LEAST ONE IS ALL I WANT. - ONE, TWO, OR THREE? - ALL RIGHT, ONE AT A TIME, LET'S GO DO IT. LET'S GO. ALL RIGHT, DAVIS, I'M GONNA SLIDE US ON IN. WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF WIND TO PUT UP WITH TODAY, BUT WE'LL-- WE'LL MAKE IT WORK. ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET BACK HERE ON THIS TROLLING MOTOR. ALL RIGHT, DAVIS, WHICH WAY YOU WANT ME TO HEAD? - STRAIGHT. STRAIGHT AND KIND OF-- - STRAIGHT AHEAD. - STRAIGHT AHEAD AND KIND OF-- - I WANT TO GO TO THE DAVIS HONEY HOLE, IS WHERE I WANT TO GO. - GO--GO TOWARDS THE MIDDLE AND KIND OF GO-- - ALL RIGHT, I'M HEADING TOWARDS THE MIDDLE. YOU TELL ME WHEN TO PUT THE ANCHOR OUT. ALL RIGHT, DAVIS, WHERE DO I NEED TO BE CASTING? - JUST CAST CLOSE TO THE BANK, AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET. - CLOSE TO THE BANK AS I CAN GET. ALL RIGHT, SHOW ME. OH, YEAH, I SEE THAT. THAT WAS A MONEY SHOT RIGHT THERE. - MM-HMM. - ALL RIGHT, AND REEL IT SLOW? - YEAH, REEL IT-- - YOU HELP ME NOW. - SLOWISH, FASTISH. - SLOW, OKAY. ARE YOU WATCHING THE-- THERE HE IS RIGHT THERE, DAVIS. YOU PUT--WE'RE DOUBLED UP. OH, BOY. MINE GOT OFF. GET HIM. IS THAT A CRAPPIE? CAN YOU TELL BY THE WAY THEY PULL? OH, YEAH. - THAT'S A BLACK ONE-- BIG OLD BLACK ONE. - THAT'S A PRETTY ONE. YOU GOT HIM? THAT IS A PRETTY FISH, DAVIS. LOOK AT THERE. MINE AIN'T AS BIG AS YOURS. - YEAH, THAT'S A DOUBLE. - YOU GOT THEM TRAINED, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. HE'S ALMOST SPOTTED UP LIKE A TROUT. IT'S A PRETTY ONE. YEAH, PRETTY FELLAS. YOU SAID BY THE BANK, DIDN'T YOU? - I HOPE--YEAH. I DID. MISSED HIM. - HE COME OFF. - THAT GUY CAME OFF. - DAVIS, IF I HAD A LAKE IN MY BACKYARD, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D EVER GET ANY WORK DONE. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. UH-OH. LOOK AT THERE, DAVIS. LOOK AT THAT ROD. - OH. YOU MIGHT HAVE A STRIPER. - NAH. ONE OF THEM CRAPPIE YOU WERE TELLING ME ABOUT. - THAT'S A SMALL ONE. - A SMALL ONE? - YEAH. HE'S SMALL. - EVERY TIME I THINK I'M DOING GOOD, YOU TELL ME IT'S A SMALL ONE. - LOOK AT THAT. LOOK. - THAT'S A SMALL ONE. - OH, YEAH. - HE'LL BE BIG NEXT YEAR, THOUGH. WHAT DO YOU THINK? - HEY. - THEY'RE ALL GOOD, AIN'T THEY? - HE PROBABLY IS. YEP, SMALL. - TELL YOU WHAT, THEY TAKE IT LIKE THEY'RE NICE. - HEY, OOH, GOT ONE. - THERE HE IS. I'VE BEEN WATCHING YOU, DAVIS. YOU'RE SHOWING ME YOUR SECRET. OH, YEAH. - IF YOU WANT THIS ONE-- OKAY. YOU CAN HAVE IT. - HAVE WHAT? - THIS ONE. - OH, YOU'RE GONNA SWAP WITH ME NOW. [LAUGHS] I GOT YOU. OKAY. YOU'RE GONNA PLAY SOME DEFENSE ON ME, HUH? YOU GOT THIS HOOK COVERED A LITTLE BIT. I GOT TO CHANGE IT. DID YOU MEAN TO COVER THAT HOOK UP ON PURPOSE LIKE THAT AND HAND IT TO ME? - WHAT? NO. - YOU HAD THE BARB AND ALL COVERED UP, BOY. YOU BEEN CATCHING BIGGER FISH IN THIS CORNER? - KIND OF. - KIND OF? AIN'T NO GUARANTEES, IS THERE? - NO. - ALL RIGHT, I'LL TAKE WHATEVER BITES. THIS WHAT WE'RE AFTER? I'VE JUST GOT TO... - YEP. - TRY TO FIND HIS MAMA. YOU THREW IT RIGHT IN MY SPOT. GET HIM. YOU GOT HIM, TOO, DIDN'T YOU? I HEAR YOU, BOY. THAT'S A LITTLE BETTER FISH, HUH? - LITTLE BETTER. - HE'S GOING SIDEWAYS ON YOU. YOU WANT ME TO FIGHT HIM FOR YOU? - NAH. HE'S A SMALL ONE. BUT I'LL TAKE HIM. - HE GOT A BIG HEART. ALL RIGHT, DAVIS, I'LL SET MINE A LITTLE DEEPER. DO YOU KNOW HOW DEEP IT IS OVER THERE NEXT TO THE BANK? - ONE OR TWO FEET. - ONE OR TWO FEET. I'M ABOUT TWO FOOT DEEP TOO. IT MUST BE RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM TODAY. OH, HE TURNED IT LOOSE, DAVIS. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT FISH? ALL RIGHT, LET'S TRY THAT AGAIN. I NEED SOME HELP WITH THIS ONE. NO, HE'S-- HE--HE JUST BIT BIG, DAVIS. LOOK AT THERE. - THAT ONE DIDN'T WASTE NO TIME. - I THINK THE BIG ONE GOT OFF, DAVIS, AND THAT LITTLE ONE GOT ON THERE. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. HERE YOU GO. WATCH THEM RIGHT HERE, DAVIS. WHAT YOU GOT? - ANOTHER CRAPPIE. - QUICK, ISN'T HE? GOT HIM? - I GOT HIM. - I BELIEVE I GOT ONE, DAVIS. THAT MUST BE A LITTLE ONE; HE HIT REAL LIGHT. THEY JUST SUCK IT RIGHT DOWN, DON'T THEY? LOOK AT THAT, DAVIS. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HIM BEFORE? - YEP. - WHAT? - ONE OR TWO YEARS OLD. - THAT WAS WITHOUT THE-- WITHOUT THE BOBBER. MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE, DAVIS. LOOK AT HERE, HE'S PULLING THE BOAT AROUND. OH, DID HE GET OFF? NO, HE'S COMING TO ME, DAVIS. OH, ME. WHAT DO WE GOT HERE, DAVIS? - IT'S A BIG CRAPPIE. - WHAT DO WE GOT HERE, BOY? OH, YEAH. - OH, MY. - IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING? - HECK, YEAH. - THAT'S IT, AIN'T IT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING. - THAT'S A BIG ONE. - THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, DAVIS. YOU COME UP WITH THAT, TOO, WITHOUT THE BARBER, YOU MIGHT BE ON SOMETHING, BUDDY. YOU WANT YOURS BACK? - YEP. - DOUBLED UP, DAVIS. YOURS IS BIGGER THAN MINE I BET. HE'S PEGGING DRAG OVER THERE, AIN'T HE? OH, YEAH, LOOK AT THERE. GONNA GET MY SMALL ONE BACK IN THE WATER REAL-- LOOK, SEE ALL THAT TENSION, DAVIS? MAKE SURE YOU GOT SOME-- PLENTY OF SLACK. BE CAREFUL. THAT'S A GOOD FISH. AIN'T WALTER, IS IT? - NO, WALTER'S MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT. - I SAY HE IS. ALL RIGHT, I GOT THE SECRET THIS TIME FOR YOU. LOOK AT THERE. OH, ME. THAT ONE HIT IT JUST AS SOON AS IT HIT THE WATER, DAVIS. HAVE YOU EVER USED LIVE BAIT OUT HERE, DAVIS? - WE DO SOME. - YEAH? THE FISH ANY BIGGER ON IT? OR SAME SIZE? GOT ANOTHER ONE RIGHT THERE? - REALLY, IF YOU GO TO BASS PRO SHOPS, THEY GOT SOME STUFF THAT, I MEAN-- - SITTING RIGHT ON 'EM, HUH? - THEY GOT SOME TIMBUKTU. BUY THAT. BUY THE CRICKET. THEM THINGS WILL WORK LIKE A HEDGEHOG. - WHAT'S THE NAME OF THEM? - TIMBUKTU. - TIMBUKTU. - CRICKETS. - OH. - GET THE CRICKET ONES. - DIVE, HE'S GONNA DIVE NOW. RIGHT NOW, HE'S GONNA DIVE. BOOM. - OH, YEAH. - OH, YEAH. - HE CAUGHT HIS THE SAME TIME I CAUGHT MINE. HE GOT HIM THAT TIME TOO. ALL RIGHT, DAVIS, HERE WE GO. WATCH THIS RIGHT HERE. - I CAN'T WATCH. I GOT A FISH ON. - YOU AIN'T GOT TIME TO WATCH, DO YOU? - NOPE. - LEAVE YOU PLENTY OF SLACK, REMEMBER? - IT'S BETTER RIGHT ON THE TOP. - ON THE TOP? - RIGHT ON THE TOP. - TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY MUST KNOW IT'S SUPPER TIME. I WANT A HONEST ANSWER FROM YOU NOW. YOU LIKE CRAPPIE FISHING OR TROUT FISHING THE BEST? WHICH ONE IS YOUR FAVORITE? - CRAPPIE. - HUH? YOU DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT A MINUTE? - NO. - I DON'T BLAME YOU. THIS IS A--I'VE CAUGHT MORE CRAPPIE TODAY THAN I HAVE TROUT ALL YEAR, I BELIEVE. THIS IS FUN. I COULD GET HOOKED ON THIS REAL QUICK. WATCH THIS. - WE CAN BRING A COUPLE CHARGERS OUT HERE. - BRING A COUPLE OF WHAT? - CHARGERS. - THAT AIN'T A BAD IDEA. DAVIS, WHERE'S YOUR GAFF AT, BOY? DAVIS, LOOK RIGHT HERE. - THAT IS A NICEY. - OH, MERCY SAKES. - THAT MIGHT BE WALTER. - IS THAT WALTER? OH, NO. LET ME SEE. OH, DAVIS, LOOK AT THERE, BOY. DAVIS, IS THIS WALTER RIGHT HERE? YOU THINK THIS IS HIM? - NO. - NO? HE'S BIGGER? - YES. - WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT. I DON'T CARE IF I CATCH ANY BIGGER THAN THAT. THAT'S A FINE ONE RIGHT THERE. THAT IS A BEAUTY. WE'RE GONNA LET HIM GO, ALL RIGHT? - YEP. - ALL RIGHT, DAVIS. - ALL THESE FISH ARE CATCH AND RELEASE. - YOU PUT ME ON THEM JUST LIKE YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO. I OWE YOU ONE. YOU THINK THERE'S A BIGGER ONE OUT THERE, HUH? - MM-HMM. - ALL RIGHT. HERE HE GOES RIGHT HERE. WATCH THIS. I'VE BEEN GETTING A HIT EVERY CAST RIGHT THERE. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I KNEW IT WHEN THAT ONE HIT, DAVIS. HE HIT LIKE A TON OF BRICKS. THAT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT STRIKE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE I WAS AT. TAKE HIM RIGHT HERE. GOOD ONE, BUDDY. YOU GOT HIM? GRAB THE FISH. GRAB THE FISH. THERE YOU GO. DAVIS, LET ME SEE THAT THING, BUDDY. HOLD HIM UP TO ME. LET ME LOOK AT IT. TURN HIM SIDEWAYS, LET ME LOOK. OH, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, BOY. THAT'S THE SAME-- YOU THINK THAT'S THE SAME ONE I CAUGHT OR BIGGER? - YOURS WAS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN THAT. - I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A FINE ONE, BUDDY. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. TAKE HIM ON OUT AND LET HIM GO RIGHT THERE. LOOK AT THERE, DAVIS. YOU DONE PUT US ON THE HOT SPOT NOW, DAVIS. YOU BEEN SAVING THIS SPOT? - YEP. - YOU HAVE, HAVEN'T YOU? AFTERNOON HOLE, HUH? - PRETTY MUCH. - PRETTY MUCH? - TODAY IT IS. - TELL YOU WHAT. HAVE TO BRING MY BIG ROD NEXT TIME I COME. - THAT YOUNG MAN CERTAINLY WAS HAVING A GOOD TIME, BUT, JOE, WHO'S WALTER? - WELL, WALTER'S A CRAPPIE, AND THEN WE'LL-- YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE SHOW FOR-- TO SEE WALTER. THEY WERE ACTUALLY FISHING FOR HIM, BUT WE'LL SHOW YOU WALTER HERE IN A LITTLE WHILE. - WELL, LET'S GET THERE PRETTY QUICK, BUT LET'S GO TO GEAR TIME. - ALL RIGHT, DAVIS, WE USED A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT STUFF TODAY. THAT GULP WAS REAL GOOD. WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE PACK OF THEM. - YEP. - WHAT DO YOU LIKE THE BEST OUT HERE? WHAT WORKS THE BEST OUT HERE? - THE--I WOULD SAY THE-- - WHICH ONE? - IT'S A HARD DECISION. - RIGHT. BUT TODAY-- THEY WERE PRETTY EQUAL TODAY. WE CAUGHT THEM UNDER A FLOAT, I KNOW YOU STARTED OUT WITH YOUR RATTLE CORK. THAT WORKED REAL GOOD. - YEAH. - AND THEN I TURNED AROUND, AND YOU TOOK THE RATTLE CORK OFF, TRIED TO PULL A FAST ONE ON ME. - YEAH. - AND STARTED CATCHING THEM. SO EITHER WAY WORKS, DOESN'T IT? - YEP. - AND I TELL YOU, WE CAUGHT SOME NICE ONES ON THAT--THAT GULP BAIT. YEP, THAT WORKED GOOD. - AND THE PINK AND THE PURPLE. - YEAH. - AND CHARTREUSE. - YOU THINK THE HEAD COLOR MATTERS? WHICH COLOR YOU LIKE THE BEST OUT HERE? - CHARTREUSE. - YEAH, CHARTREUSE. AND THESE LITTLE REELS ARE THE TICKET, AREN'T THEY? - THEY ARE. - FOUR-POUND TEST. SUPER LIGHT. THEY HAD IT BENT DOUBLE. I KNOW THAT. - YEAH. - I HAD A GOOD TIME CATCHING THESE THINGS WITH THIS. - WE CAUGHT THEM OUT BIG TIME. - THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVER FISHING FOR THEM. I LOVE SOME CROPPIE FISHING. CRAPPIE FISHING. YOU CORRECTED ME ON THAT, DIDN'T YOU? CRAPPIE FISHING. - YEAH. - ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME COME WITH YOU. I OWE YOU A TROUT TRIP NOW. PUT IT RIGHT THERE. APPRECIATE IT, BUDDY. I'M GONNA COME BACK AND SEE YOU VERY SOON. - THANKS, FELLAS, FOR THAT INFORMATION. STILL TO COME, WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT WALTER. RIGHT NOW, LET'S CATCH UP WITH DONNA. SHE'S IN THE KITCHEN WITH A RECIPE FOR FISH POT PIE. - HI. WELCOME TO SIMPLE COOKING. TODAY IN THE KITCHEN, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A FISH POT PIE. IT'S A LITTLE TAKE OFF OF THE ORIGINAL CHICKEN POT PIE, BUT WE'RE GONNA USE SOME FISH, AND IT'S GONNA BE GREAT. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WE'RE GONNA USE A LOT OF CONVENIENCE ITEMS IN THIS RECIPE. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU CAN PUT TOGETHER REALLY QUICK AND EASILY AFTER YOU COME HOME FROM WORK OR AFTER YOU'VE HAD A HARD DAY. MAYBE YOU'RE IN YOUR CABIN. IT'S GREAT THINGS TO KEEP STOCKED WITH AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD ONE CAN OF VEG-ALL, BASICALLY. IT'S GOING TO BE ALL YOUR CARROTS AND PEAS AND GREEN BEANS AND POTATOES ALREADY CUT UP FOR YOU. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO USE SOME CANNED MUSHROOMS IN THIS. AND I USE SOME BACON THAT IS ALREADY COOKED. I JUST CHOPPED IT WITH MY SCISSORS. IF YOU WANT OR YOU HAVE SOME LEFT OVER MAYBE FROM THE DAY BEFORE OR THE BREAKFAST BEFORE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND THROW THAT IN THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST GONNA USE THE BACON. WE'RE NOT USING THE GREASE FOR IT. AND WE'RE GONNA ALSO USE ABOUT 2 CUPS OR A CUP OR SO OF CHOPPED WHITEFISH, WHATEVER YOU MIGHT HAVE. IF YOU HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SMALL FILETS LEFT OVER, AND YOU WANT TO USE THEM UP, GO AHEAD, JUST PUT IT ALL IN THERE. YOU'RE GONNA ADD SALT AND PEPPER TO TASTE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MIX THAT TOGETHER AND ADD ABOUT 2 TABLESPOONS OF JUST ALL-PURPOSE FLOUR. THAT WILL HELP KIND OF MAKE A LITTLE GRAVY OR KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER FOR YOU AS WELL. KEEP THOSE JUICES AND MAKE THEM NICE AND CREAMY. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA TOSS THAT TOGETHER. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO POUR IT INTO OUR 8X8 BAKING DISH. AND THAT IS OUR FILLING, AND WE'RE READY TO GO. THEN WE'RE GONNA MAKE OUR TOPPING TO THIS. AND WE'RE GOING TO USE 2 CUPS OF BUTTERMILK BISCUIT MIX, AND WE'RE GONNA USE ABOUT 1/2 CUP OF WATER. DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH HUMIDITY YOU HAVE IN THE AIR AT THE TIME, YOU MAY NEED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE WATER OR MAYBE NOT QUITE AS MUCH. SO IT'S KIND OF A BASIC OUTLINE FOR YOU. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA MIX THAT TOGETHER. AND THEN TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF A HOMEMADE KIND OF AN UNUSUAL LITTLE TOUCH, WE'RE GOING TO ROLL IT OUT AND MAKE BISCUITS WITH THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST MAKE THE TRADITIONAL ROUND BISCUITS. WE'RE GONNA USE A FISH COOKIE CUTTER AND MAKE FISH BISCUITS. JUST ADD A LITTLE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE'RE GONNA THROW-- PUT THAT OUT ONTO OUR BOARD. AND KIND OF KNEAD IT WITH OUR HANDS, AND THEN ROLL IT OUT WITH OUR ROLLING PIN, AND THEN CUT THEM OUT WITH OUR FISH COOKIE CUTTERS. AND YOU CAN USE DIFFERENT SHAPES IF YOU LIKE. I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE KIND OF FUN AND ADD A LITTLE INTEREST TO OUR DISH. AND THEN I LIKE TO PUT MY FISH SWIMMING UPSTREAM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING. AND THEN I JUST OVERLAY THEM. AND I'M JUST GONNA PUT THEM OUT HERE. AND YOU'RE READY TO GO. SO WE'RE GONNA BAKE THIS AT ABOUT 350, 375, FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES, JUST UNTIL YOUR BISCUITS ARE NICE AND GOLDEN BROWN AND COOKED THOROUGHLY, AS WELL AS YOUR MIXTURE IS NICE AND CREAMY AND BUBBLY. SO THAT'S ALL YOU DO. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT'S FINISHED. AS YOU CAN SEE, MY BISCUITS ARE NICE AND GOLDEN BROWN, HAVE A NICE GOLDEN SHEEN TO THEM. YOU CAN ALSO BRUSH THOSE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BUTTER IF YOU'D LIKE WHEN THEY FIRST COME OUT AND THE INSIDE IS NICE AND WARM. IT'S A GREAT DISH FOR A NICE COLD EVENING. SO I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE FISH POT PIE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU HERE NEXT TIME ON CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL. - THANKS, DONNA, FOR THAT RECIPE, AND IF YOU LIKE THAT RECIPE, YOU'LL FIND A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL COOKBOOK. JUST GO ONLINE, AND WE'LL GET ONE TO YOU JUST AS FAST AS WE CAN. JOE, WALTER IS A LEGEND. - WELL, HE'S A LEGEND IN THAT POND. HE WAS ACTUALLY-- AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF WALTER, WHO WAS CAUGHT BY DAVIS THE WEEK BEFORE WE DID THE SHOW, AND THAT FISH PROBABLY WEIGHED CLOSE TO 4 POUNDS, WHICH IS A REALLY BIG-- ANYBODY THAT FISHES CRAPPIE ANYWHERE KNOWS A 4-POUND CRAPPIE IS A HUGE CRAPPIE. BUT THAT FISH IS STILL SWIMMING. HE RELEASED IT THE SAME DAY HE CAUGHT IT. AND--BUT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE WAS SOME BIG CRAPPIE IN THAT POND. WE DIDN'T CATCH ANY BIG CRAPPIE THAT DAY. WE CAUGHT A LOT OF CRAPPIE THAT DAY AND-- BUT WALTER STILL SWIMS. - IT WAS BIG FUN WITH DAVIS THAT DAY. FOR JOE ALBEA, I'M JOHN MOORE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL. - [MALE ANNOUNCER]: AND MAKE SURE TO VISIT OUR WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION. - [MALE ANNOUNCER]: THE PRODUCTION OF CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY: - [FEMALE ANNOUNCER]: THE NORTH CAROLINA WILDLIFE RESCOURCES COMMISSION. A FISHING LICENSE GOES A LONG WAY TOWARDS WILDLIFE CONSERVATION IN NORTH CAROLINA. OVER 38,000 MILES OF MANAGED STREAMS AND RIVERS, AND 250,000 ACRES OF LAKES AND RESERVOIRS. - [MALE ANNOUNCER]: AND BY EZ BAIT AND TACKLE, FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED. WE FISH FROM FRESH TO SALTWATER. WE PROVIDE FISHING SUPPLIES AND AD VICE TO EVERY TYPE OF ANGLER. FOR ALL YOUR FISHING NEEDS, EZ BAIT AND TACKLE. AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM PBS NC VI EWERS LIKE YOU. [LIGHT INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC] ♪