1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,530 ♪♪ 2 00:00:00,530 --> 00:00:01,530 >> PRODUCTION OF "BROAD & HIGH" 3 00:00:01,530 --> 00:00:03,200 IS FUNDED IN PART BY THE GREATER 4 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,300 COLUMBUS ARTS COUNCIL. 5 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:05,370 SUPPORTING ARTS, ADVANCING 6 00:00:05,370 --> 00:00:06,970 CULTURE AND CONNECTING THE 7 00:00:06,970 --> 00:00:09,600 COMMUNITY TO ARTISTS, EVENTS AND 8 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,100 CLASSES AT COLUMBUSMAKESART.COM. 9 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:14,300 >> FROM THESE CONTRIBUTING 10 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:16,100 SPONSORS -- AND VIEWERS LIKE 11 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:17,300 YOU. 12 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:21,270 THANK YOU. 13 00:00:21,270 --> 00:00:23,900 >>> THIS TIME ON BROAD AND HIGH. 14 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:25,230 EXPLORING THE PROMINENT ROLE 15 00:00:25,230 --> 00:00:26,970 WOMEN PLAYED IN THE HISTORY OF 16 00:00:26,970 --> 00:00:29,200 THE COLUMBUS SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA. 17 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,800 LOCAL AUTHOR AND EDUCATOR 18 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,800 CARLOTTA PENN HOPES YOUNG 19 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,930 CHILDREN OF COLOR CAN SEE AND 20 00:00:32,930 --> 00:00:33,500 CELEBRATE THEMSELVES IN HER 21 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:36,670 PICTURE BOOKS. 22 00:00:36,670 --> 00:00:38,370 AN ARTIST GET PHYSICAL, WITH HER 23 00:00:38,370 --> 00:00:41,030 ABSTRACT CANVASES. 24 00:00:41,030 --> 00:00:42,900 AND BEAUTIFUL HARMONIES FROM A 25 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:44,230 PAIR OF BROTHERS WHO CALL 26 00:00:44,230 --> 00:00:45,770 THEMSELVES INGRAM STREET. 27 00:00:45,770 --> 00:00:47,100 THIS AND MORE RIGHT NOW ON 28 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:49,070 “BROAD & HIGH.” 29 00:00:49,070 --> 00:00:51,200 ♪♪ 30 00:00:51,200 --> 00:01:04,430 ♪♪ 31 00:01:04,430 --> 00:01:05,700 >>> HI, I'M DAVID HOLM YOUR HOST 32 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,100 FOR THIS EPISODE OF “BROAD & 33 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:09,300 HIGH.” 34 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:10,570 COLUMBUS WOMEN PLAYED A BIG ROLE 35 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:13,070 IN THE COLUMBUS LITTLE 36 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:14,270 ORCHESTRA, THAT WAS THE 37 00:01:14,270 --> 00:01:15,330 PREDECESSOR TO TODAY'S COLUMBUS 38 00:01:15,330 --> 00:01:17,370 SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA. 39 00:01:17,370 --> 00:01:19,230 HISTORIAN DOREEN UHAS SAUER 40 00:01:19,230 --> 00:01:21,230 SHOWS US HOW WOMEN ANSWERED THE 41 00:01:21,230 --> 00:01:22,330 CALL AND HELPED SAVE COLUMBUS'S 42 00:01:22,330 --> 00:01:25,430 SYMPHONY. 43 00:01:25,430 --> 00:01:27,170 ♪♪ 44 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:31,070 ♪♪ 45 00:01:31,070 --> 00:01:33,570 >> I AM SO PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE 46 00:01:33,570 --> 00:01:35,030 TO INTERVIEW THE TWO OF YOU 47 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:36,330 BECAUSE, TODAY WE'RE TALKING 48 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:37,300 ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION THAT SAVED 49 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:39,430 AN ORGANIZATION. 50 00:01:39,430 --> 00:01:40,970 AND I'M WONDERING IF I COULD 51 00:01:40,970 --> 00:01:42,700 START WITH YOU SANDY, JUST TALK 52 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:44,200 ABOUT WHAT THE ORGANIZATION IS 53 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,100 WERE TALKING ABOUT -- 54 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:48,500 >> WELL WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 55 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:49,500 WOMEN WHO WERE INVOLVED IN 56 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:51,100 CREATING AND HAVE BEEN 57 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:53,100 SUPPORTING THE COLUMBUS 58 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:54,970 SYMPHONY. 59 00:01:54,970 --> 00:01:56,600 IT'S CURRENT NAME, FOR -- 60 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,700 SEVENTY YEARS. 61 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:00,530 WHICH IS AN AMAZING THOUGHT, 62 00:02:00,530 --> 00:02:03,970 THAT HERE WE ARE AND WE'RE 63 00:02:03,970 --> 00:02:06,930 SITTING IN AN ARCHIVE THAT HAS 64 00:02:06,930 --> 00:02:09,730 REALLY DOCUMENTED WHAT HAPPENED 65 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:12,300 FROM THE BEGINNING AND HOW IT 66 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:13,730 HAS GROWN AND HOW MUCH ITS MEANT 67 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:15,670 TO PEOPLE. 68 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:16,430 >> THERESA, COULD YOU GIVE A 69 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:18,070 LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE 70 00:02:18,070 --> 00:02:19,900 BEGINNING AND THE IMPORTANCE OF 71 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:21,400 IT. 72 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,770 >> IT WAS FOUNDED PRETTY MUCH 73 00:02:22,770 --> 00:02:23,970 STANDARDLY BY CITY FATHERS 74 00:02:23,970 --> 00:02:25,200 AROUND 1941. 75 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,670 AND IT WAS MORE OR LESS BIRTHED 76 00:02:29,670 --> 00:02:32,730 FULL GROWN. 77 00:02:32,730 --> 00:02:34,030 THEY STARTED IN AN ORCHESTRA 78 00:02:34,030 --> 00:02:35,430 WITH PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AND 79 00:02:35,430 --> 00:02:37,430 THEY HIRED A FIRST CLASS 80 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:41,170 CONDUCTOR, IZLER SOLOMON. 81 00:02:41,170 --> 00:02:43,700 AND THEN IT GARNERED THE SUPPORT 82 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:45,200 OF THE WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION OF 83 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,400 THE PHILHARMONIC, THEY WERE 84 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,700 KNOWN THEN. 85 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:49,330 WHO WOULD TRY TO RAISE MONEY 86 00:02:49,330 --> 00:02:50,500 THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS AND 87 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:51,870 SUPPORT THEM. 88 00:02:51,870 --> 00:02:53,870 >> I GUESS IN LOOKING THROUGH 89 00:02:53,870 --> 00:02:55,430 THE MANY SCRAPBOOKS THAT HAVE 90 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:56,000 BEEN OUT, AND THIS IS JUST A 91 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,570 FRACTION OF THEM. 92 00:02:57,570 --> 00:02:59,030 IT'S VERY EASY TO SEE THAT THERE 93 00:02:59,030 --> 00:03:00,670 ARE LUNCHEONS AND THERE ARE 94 00:03:00,670 --> 00:03:01,730 LOT'S OF PEOPLE WITH HATS AND 95 00:03:01,730 --> 00:03:04,530 GLOVES ON, THE REQUIRED FASHION 96 00:03:04,530 --> 00:03:07,370 MODE OF THE DAY. 97 00:03:07,370 --> 00:03:10,100 AND -- THAT SORT OF LED PERHAPS 98 00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:11,300 TO WHAT, SANDY, IT'S KIND OF IN 99 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:13,030 FRONT OF YOU AND IT'S ABOUT 100 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:14,600 USING HISTORIC THEMES AND 101 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,870 FASHION SHOW. 102 00:03:16,870 --> 00:03:18,330 >> SO CLEARLY THERE HAVE BEEN A 103 00:03:18,330 --> 00:03:22,070 LOT OF FASHION SHOWS THAT WERE 104 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:23,130 USED TO UNITE DIFFERENT SYMPHONY 105 00:03:23,130 --> 00:03:25,530 UNITS AND HAVE A PROGRAM THAT 106 00:03:25,530 --> 00:03:26,830 THEY ALL COULD ENJOY TOGETHER. 107 00:03:26,830 --> 00:03:30,430 AND CERTAINLY MUSIC WAS A PART 108 00:03:30,430 --> 00:03:33,830 OF THEM WITHOUT ANY QUESTION, 109 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:35,270 AND IN FACT IN OUR PARTICULAR 110 00:03:35,270 --> 00:03:35,870 UNIT WE WOULD SPONSOR AN ANNUAL 111 00:03:35,870 --> 00:03:36,800 LUNCHEON. 112 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,170 WHERE WE WOULD HAVE -- SOME OF 113 00:03:38,170 --> 00:03:39,430 THE SYMPHONY MEMBERS AND THEIR 114 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:41,430 STUDENTS PLAY FOR US, BUT THEN 115 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:46,430 THERE WOULD BE A FASHION SHOW. 116 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:47,700 AND WE ALSO WOULD HAVE A SILENT 117 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:48,900 AUCTION SO THAT WE COULD BE 118 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:50,830 RAISING MONEY THAT WE COULD GIVE 119 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:52,370 TO THE SYMPHONY. 120 00:03:52,370 --> 00:03:53,470 SO IT WAS ALWAYS SORT OF A 121 00:03:53,470 --> 00:03:54,930 COMBINATION, BUT THERE'VE BEEN 122 00:03:54,930 --> 00:03:57,900 SO MANY OTHER FUNDRAISING EVENTS 123 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:01,970 THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE THE HATS AND 124 00:04:01,970 --> 00:04:03,200 GLOVES. 125 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,600 ♪♪ 126 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,000 ♪♪ 127 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,430 THE LECTURES OF NOTE WERE 128 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:08,970 SPONSORED BY THE WOMEN'S 129 00:04:08,970 --> 00:04:09,530 ASSOCIATION OF THE COLUMBUS 130 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:11,200 SYMPHONY, AND WAS HELD IN THE 131 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,200 OHIO THEATRE. 132 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,100 AND THERE WAS A SERIES AND YOU 133 00:04:15,100 --> 00:04:17,270 COULD BUY A SEASON SUBSCRIPTION 134 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:20,170 TO THEM. AND THEY WOULD BRING IN 135 00:04:20,170 --> 00:04:24,830 CELEBRITIES AND HAVE THEM TALK 136 00:04:24,830 --> 00:04:26,030 ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS. 137 00:04:26,030 --> 00:04:27,100 I MEAN -- FOR EXAMPLE HERE IS 138 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:28,500 RAY BOLGER TALKED ABOUT HIS 139 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:29,900 WORLD. 140 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:32,700 CELESTE HOLM, JUST ASK ME. 141 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:34,500 BUT THEN ALSO HERE'S 142 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:36,530 THOMAS HOVING, TALKING ABOUT THE 143 00:04:36,530 --> 00:04:38,000 TOMB OF TUTANKHAMUN, SO IT WAS A 144 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,700 REAL VARIETY. 145 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:41,600 >> A SMORGASBORD? 146 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,870 >> YES, AND THEY WERE SELLOUTS. 147 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:44,700 AND WE HAD LOTS OF OTHER WAYS 148 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:47,870 THAT WOMEN COULD BE INVOLVED, 149 00:04:47,870 --> 00:04:49,370 BUT COULD INVOLVE THE REST OF 150 00:04:49,370 --> 00:04:51,500 THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. 151 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:53,230 >> AND WE ALSO HAVE LIKE THIS 152 00:04:53,230 --> 00:04:54,930 LITTLE BOOKLET HERE. 153 00:04:54,930 --> 00:04:56,630 WHICH IS ABOUT THE CANTERBURY 154 00:04:56,630 --> 00:04:58,670 UNIT, WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT 155 00:04:58,670 --> 00:05:00,170 THE UNITS, AND THEIR 156 00:05:00,170 --> 00:05:01,870 ORGANIZATION. 157 00:05:01,870 --> 00:05:04,200 AND WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN THEIR 158 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,730 RULE IN A SEASON OF THE 159 00:05:05,730 --> 00:05:08,030 ORCHESTRA, OR PRECEDING IT? 160 00:05:08,030 --> 00:05:10,670 >> WELL, I THINK THE UNITS WERE 161 00:05:10,670 --> 00:05:14,070 REALLY A WONDERFUL WAY FOR A 162 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:18,170 VERY EXTENSIVE ORGANIZATION TO 163 00:05:18,170 --> 00:05:20,770 HAVE SOME SMALLER GROUPS THAT 164 00:05:20,770 --> 00:05:21,700 PLAYED A ROLE IN CARRYING OUT 165 00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:23,270 THE MISSION, OF THE WOMEN'S 166 00:05:23,270 --> 00:05:25,730 ASSOCIATION. 167 00:05:25,730 --> 00:05:28,230 >> AND I THINK THAT IN THAT 168 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:30,670 SMALLER GROUP PEOPLE COULD COME 169 00:05:30,670 --> 00:05:33,170 UP WITH IDEAS, BUT THEY ALL THEN 170 00:05:33,170 --> 00:05:35,800 COULD JOIN THEIR IDEAS AND WORK 171 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,730 TOGETHER ON ALL KINDS OF 172 00:05:37,730 --> 00:05:39,330 PROJECTS. 173 00:05:39,330 --> 00:05:41,430 FOR FUNDRAISING AND THE 174 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:43,030 VOLUNTEERISM HAS BEEN EXTENSIVE 175 00:05:43,030 --> 00:05:44,870 THROUGH THE YEARS. 176 00:05:44,870 --> 00:05:46,500 >> THEY WERE SO ACTIVE THAT WHEN 177 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:49,270 THE PHILHARMONIC DISBANDED THEY 178 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:51,270 INSISTED ON STAYING TOGETHER. 179 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:53,330 ♪♪ 180 00:05:53,330 --> 00:05:55,100 IN 1949, THEY WERE RUNNING A 181 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:56,870 DEFICIT. 182 00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:58,200 THEY HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE 183 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,430 ENDS MEET -- SO AT THAT POINT 184 00:06:00,430 --> 00:06:02,300 THE CITY FATHERS GOT TOGETHER, 185 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:04,370 THE BOARD MEMBERS AND SAID “WERE 186 00:06:04,370 --> 00:06:05,270 NOT GOING TO BE THROWING ANY 187 00:06:05,270 --> 00:06:06,530 MORE MONEY AT THIS, BUT WE WILL 188 00:06:06,530 --> 00:06:08,370 PAY YOUR DEBTS. AND YOU'LL HAVE 189 00:06:08,370 --> 00:06:11,130 TO DISBAND” THE WOMEN'S 190 00:06:11,130 --> 00:06:14,930 ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILHARMONICS 191 00:06:14,930 --> 00:06:17,900 SAID “OH NO, WE WON'T GO” AND SO 192 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:19,470 THEY STAYED. 193 00:06:19,470 --> 00:06:20,730 AND FOR THE YEARS OF FORTY-NINE, 194 00:06:20,730 --> 00:06:23,070 FIFTY, AND EARLY FIFTY-ONE THEY 195 00:06:23,070 --> 00:06:25,500 WERE CONTINUING TO HAVE CARD 196 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:28,300 PARTIES, FASHION SHOWS, ALL THE 197 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:29,630 WAYS THAT THEY RAISED MONEY BUT 198 00:06:29,630 --> 00:06:30,470 THEY WERE DONATING IT TOWARDS 199 00:06:30,470 --> 00:06:31,970 SCHOLARSHIPS -- FOR MUSIC 200 00:06:31,970 --> 00:06:34,070 STUDENTS. 201 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:35,600 THEN GEORGE HARDESTY AND THE 202 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,200 GROUP OF THE ADMINISTRATION 203 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,800 DECIDED THEY COULD SWING A SMALL 204 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,970 ORCHESTRA. 205 00:06:42,970 --> 00:06:43,800 IT WASN'T GOING TO BE THE 206 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:44,570 PHILHARMONIC. 207 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:45,430 IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A 208 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:46,670 PROFESSIONAL ORCHESTRA BUT IT 209 00:06:46,670 --> 00:06:47,670 WAS GOING TO BE A PROFESSIONAL 210 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:49,930 ORCHESTRA --SO MUCH AS THEY 211 00:06:49,930 --> 00:06:51,400 WOULD BE UNION RATE MUSICIANS 212 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,330 BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE -- HAVE 213 00:06:52,330 --> 00:06:57,400 FULL TIME SALARIES. 214 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,200 SO THAT WAS HOW THE COLUMBUS 215 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,670 LITTLE SYMPHONY WAS FORMED. 216 00:07:01,670 --> 00:07:04,200 AND THEN THERE HAD BEEN A GRANT 217 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,670 FROM THE TELL, THAT WAS A LARGE 218 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:10,730 SUM OF MONEY AROUND 1978, I 219 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:11,500 THINK, AND THAT MADE THEM DECIDE 220 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:14,100 TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE FULL 221 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:15,870 TIMERS. 222 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:17,100 FROM THAT POINT ON WE WERE A 223 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:18,970 PROFESSIONAL ORCHESTRA AGAIN, 224 00:07:18,970 --> 00:07:21,830 AFTER A LAPSE OF MAYBE FORTY, 225 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:23,870 FIFTY YEARS BUT BY THE TIME WE 226 00:07:23,870 --> 00:07:26,100 HAD REACHED THE YEAR 227 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:27,370 2000 GRADUALLY AND INCREMENTALLY 228 00:07:27,370 --> 00:07:28,770 THE ORCHESTRA THAT HAD BEEN, HAD 229 00:07:28,770 --> 00:07:29,270 BEEN RECREATED AS THE FULL TIME 230 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:34,170 PROFESSIONAL ORCHESTRA. 231 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:35,870 >> ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED 232 00:07:35,870 --> 00:07:36,770 IN GOING THROUGH SCRAPBOOKS, AND 233 00:07:36,770 --> 00:07:38,830 I THINK I WAS ONLY FOUR PAGES 234 00:07:38,830 --> 00:07:39,700 INTO LOOKING WERE THE NUMBER OF 235 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:41,030 WOMAN WHO WERE SO WELL KNOWN AND 236 00:07:41,030 --> 00:07:45,670 THEY ARE STILL WELL KNOWN. 237 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:48,200 AND I'M THINKING YOU KNOW THERE 238 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,400 WAS ELEANOR GELPY. 239 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,970 THERE WAS MARY BISHOP, WHO LATER 240 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:53,770 ACTUALLY SAVES THE OHIO THEATRE 241 00:07:53,770 --> 00:07:55,200 TO A GREAT EXTENT. 242 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,300 NOT JUST SAVING THE ORCHESTRA 243 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:57,600 NOW NOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 244 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,170 SAVING THE HOME. 245 00:07:59,170 --> 00:08:00,300 >> THE PHYSICAL THEATER. 246 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:01,770 >> FOR AN ORCHESTRA >> YES. 247 00:08:01,770 --> 00:08:03,500 >> WHEN IT BECAME APPARENT THAT 248 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:06,000 THE COLUMBUS SYMPHONY AT 249 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,170 VETERANS MEMORIAL WASN'T GOING 250 00:08:08,170 --> 00:08:10,970 TO CONTINUE, BUT AT THE SAME 251 00:08:10,970 --> 00:08:13,870 TIME THE OHIO THEATRE WAS IN 252 00:08:13,870 --> 00:08:15,400 DANGER OF BEING RAISED. 253 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,470 IT TOOK A LOT OF EFFORT, BUT IT 254 00:08:17,470 --> 00:08:18,900 TURNED OUT WITH A WONDERFUL 255 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:21,870 OUTCOME THAT THE WOMEN AND MEN 256 00:08:21,870 --> 00:08:24,000 CAME TOGETHER AND REALLY WORKED 257 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 HARD TO SAVE THE OHIO THEATRE. 258 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,770 THERE WAS A BIG PUSH FROM THE 259 00:08:28,770 --> 00:08:29,900 WOMEN TO MAKE SURE THAT 260 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:31,300 HAPPENED. 261 00:08:31,300 --> 00:08:32,400 >> AND LOOKING BACK AT ALL OF 262 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,370 THIS. 263 00:08:33,370 --> 00:08:34,670 WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE 264 00:08:34,670 --> 00:08:37,300 LEGACIES OF ALL OF THIS HISTORY, 265 00:08:37,300 --> 00:08:39,330 AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS GROUP 266 00:08:39,330 --> 00:08:40,500 TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND 267 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:42,200 WHERE -- THE SYMPHONY HOPES TO 268 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,330 BE IN THE FUTURE? 269 00:08:45,330 --> 00:08:47,100 >> I DO THINK THAT -- IN MANY 270 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:49,070 WAYS THE COLUMBUS SYMPHONY MAY 271 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:50,770 HAVE A UNIQUE ORIGIN STORY 272 00:08:50,770 --> 00:08:52,700 BECAUSE GENERALLY MOST OF THESE 273 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:55,100 ORCHESTRAS WERE BEGUN BY CIVIC 274 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:56,900 MINDED CITY LEADERS WHO WANTED 275 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:59,930 TO HAVE THIS CULTURAL THING FOR 276 00:08:59,930 --> 00:09:01,630 THEIR COMMUNITY AND -- OFTEN IN 277 00:09:01,630 --> 00:09:06,900 THE WAY OF STATUS AND THIS 278 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:09,030 ORCHESTRA WAS BEGUN BECAUSE 279 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:10,570 WOMEN DUG THEIR HEELS IN. 280 00:09:10,570 --> 00:09:11,300 ♪♪ 281 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:12,230 ♪♪ 282 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:13,670 AND DECIDED NO. 283 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:14,700 THE MEN HAVE FAILED, WE ARE 284 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:16,170 GOING TO PICK IT UP. 285 00:09:16,170 --> 00:09:17,470 WE'RE GOING TO START SMALL, AND 286 00:09:17,470 --> 00:09:18,800 WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT. 287 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,100 THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT WOMEN IN 288 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:21,870 THAT DAY AND THERE'S A 289 00:09:21,870 --> 00:09:23,100 PERSISTENCE. 290 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:24,930 >> TENACIOUS. 291 00:09:24,930 --> 00:09:26,430 >> YES, A TENACIOUS QUALITY OF, 292 00:09:26,430 --> 00:09:29,500 WE WANT THIS, NOT FOR THE 293 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:30,430 ACCOLADES AND NOT FOR THE GLORY 294 00:09:30,430 --> 00:09:31,800 BUT FOR OUR CHILDREN. 295 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,370 WE WANT THIS FOR A LEGACY. 296 00:09:34,370 --> 00:09:35,170 FOR OUR CITY. 297 00:09:35,170 --> 00:09:36,470 >> VERY WELL PUT. 298 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:37,730 >> THE LEGACY REALLY IS EMBODIED 299 00:09:37,730 --> 00:09:40,730 IN ALL OF THIS. 300 00:09:40,730 --> 00:09:42,800 YOU KNOW MUSIC IS THE HEART OF 301 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,330 SO MANY OF PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND 302 00:09:46,330 --> 00:09:50,470 NOW ITS REALLY COME TO MEAN SO 303 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:52,070 MUCH FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TO 304 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:54,530 HAVE THE KIND OF VARIETY WE 305 00:09:54,530 --> 00:09:55,600 HAVE. 306 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,530 WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLES CONCERTS, 307 00:09:58,530 --> 00:10:01,300 WE HAVE CLASSICAL MUSIC SERIES, 308 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:03,900 WE HAVE PICNIC AT THE POPS. 309 00:10:03,900 --> 00:10:06,670 AND IT'S A REAL COMMUNITY GEM. 310 00:10:06,670 --> 00:10:08,400 A COMMUNITY ASSET, AND WE ALL 311 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,130 ARE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THE 312 00:10:13,130 --> 00:10:14,570 HISTORY THAT THESE WOMEN REALLY 313 00:10:14,570 --> 00:10:16,000 PROMOTED FROM THE BEGINNING. 314 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,170 ♪♪ 315 00:10:19,170 --> 00:10:24,670 ♪♪ 316 00:10:24,670 --> 00:10:25,430 ♪♪ 317 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:38,730 ♪♪ 318 00:10:38,730 --> 00:10:39,970 >>> COLUMBUS AUTHOR AND EDUCATOR 319 00:10:39,970 --> 00:10:41,970 CARLOTTA PENN WAS FRUSTRATED BY 320 00:10:41,970 --> 00:10:43,700 THE LACK OF DIVERSITY IN 321 00:10:43,700 --> 00:10:45,130 CHILDREN'S LITERATURE. 322 00:10:45,130 --> 00:10:46,570 SO, SHE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT 323 00:10:46,570 --> 00:10:47,500 AND WROTE NOT ONE, BUT TWO BOOKS 324 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:50,670 FOR KIDS. 325 00:10:50,670 --> 00:10:51,530 THE LATEST IS CALLED “THE TURTLE 326 00:10:51,530 --> 00:10:52,530 WITH AN AFRO.” 327 00:10:52,530 --> 00:10:53,530 AND IT ENCOURAGES YOUNG BLACK 328 00:10:53,530 --> 00:10:54,600 GIRLS TO LOVE AND EMBRACE THE 329 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,570 VERSATILITY OF THEIR HAIR. 330 00:10:56,570 --> 00:11:00,870 HERE'S HERE STORY. 331 00:11:00,870 --> 00:11:05,300 ♪♪ 332 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:07,900 >>> TURTLE WAS FRUSTRATED. 333 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:09,330 IT WAS A BAD HAIR DAY. 334 00:11:09,330 --> 00:11:11,530 HER SPRINGY, SPRIGHTLY CURLS 335 00:11:11,530 --> 00:11:15,530 ABSOLUTLEY, POSITIVELY WOULD NOT 336 00:11:15,530 --> 00:11:17,700 STAY IN PLACE. 337 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:19,200 I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING 338 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,930 AND VERY TELLING WHEN I THINK 339 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:22,300 ABOUT CULTURE AND BLACK CULTURE 340 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:23,430 AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE, 341 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:24,200 AND THEN AFRICAN-AMERICAN 342 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,300 WOMEN'S CULTURE. 343 00:11:26,300 --> 00:11:27,900 EVEN THOUGH AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND 344 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:29,570 AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN ARE 345 00:11:29,570 --> 00:11:30,670 DIVERSE. 346 00:11:30,670 --> 00:11:32,070 THERE ARE STILL SO MANY THINGS 347 00:11:32,070 --> 00:11:33,430 THAT TIE US TOGETHER AND ONE OF 348 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:34,670 THOSE THINGS IS THE HAIR 349 00:11:34,670 --> 00:11:35,930 EXPERIENCE. 350 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:38,530 THEY REFUSE TO OBEY THE BRUSH OR 351 00:11:38,530 --> 00:11:40,000 THE COMB. 352 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,500 THEY DID NOT CARE HOW LOUD SHE 353 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:50,230 SCREAMED, OR HOW SHE MOANED. 354 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:53,230 THEY WERE FANTASTIC, FABULOUS, 355 00:11:53,230 --> 00:11:58,600 FROLICKING, AND FISTY. 356 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,930 WHY, OH WHY? TURTLE ASKED. 357 00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:05,770 WON'T YOU JUST BE NICE TO ME? 358 00:12:05,770 --> 00:12:07,170 YOU KNOW, MY RELATIONSHIP WITH 359 00:12:07,170 --> 00:12:08,500 MY OWN HAIR IS A DAILY 360 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:09,900 EXPERIENCE. 361 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:11,500 AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IS NOT AN 362 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:12,370 EXPERIENCE THAT IS HAD IN OTHER 363 00:12:12,370 --> 00:12:13,430 COMMUNITIES. 364 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:14,630 BUT, I KNOW THE WAY WE TALK 365 00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:17,500 ABOUT OUR HAIR IS UNIQUE TO OUR 366 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:19,570 COMMUNITY. 367 00:12:19,570 --> 00:12:23,430 AND SO, FOR ME THE STORY IS NOT 368 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:25,100 ABOUT -- 369 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:25,830 IT'S NOT A CONVERSATION WITH 370 00:12:25,830 --> 00:12:27,570 MAINSTREAM ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT 371 00:12:27,570 --> 00:12:30,600 THE HAIR IS OKAY, WHICH I THINK 372 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,130 HAS BEEN DONE IN BOOKS. 373 00:12:32,130 --> 00:12:32,800 WHERE I THINK “THE TURTLE WITH 374 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,930 AN AFRO” IS DIFFERENT IS THAT 375 00:12:33,930 --> 00:12:36,630 IT'S MORE OF AN ETERNAL 376 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:37,430 CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WHO 377 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:38,330 HAVE CURLY HAIR WHO WE KNOW GET 378 00:12:38,330 --> 00:12:39,470 FRUSTRATED WITH IT. 379 00:12:39,470 --> 00:12:40,600 WE WANT OUR CURLY HAIR. 380 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,970 YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ABOUT ME 381 00:12:41,970 --> 00:12:43,500 WANTING MY HAIR TO BE STRAIGHT. 382 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:44,830 I JUST WANT IT TO DO WHAT I WANT 383 00:12:44,830 --> 00:12:46,100 IT TO DO AND IT DOESN'T DO THE 384 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:47,970 SAME THING EVERY DAY. 385 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:49,730 OR, IT TAKES TIME. 386 00:12:49,730 --> 00:12:51,030 AND THAT'S FRUSTRATING. 387 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:52,300 BUT, THOSE CRAZY CURLS HAD 388 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:54,370 EXTRAVAGANT PLANS. 389 00:12:54,370 --> 00:12:55,370 TO DANCE, AND JUMP, AND BOUNCE 390 00:12:55,370 --> 00:12:58,830 ALL OVER HER HEAD. 391 00:12:58,830 --> 00:13:00,230 SHIMMY, SHIMMY, SHIMMY. 392 00:13:00,230 --> 00:13:02,270 SLIPE, SLIDE, TWIRL. 393 00:13:02,270 --> 00:13:04,130 SHAKE, SHAKE, SHAKE IT OUT. 394 00:13:04,130 --> 00:13:07,130 WHIRL, WHIRL, WHIRL. 395 00:13:07,130 --> 00:13:08,900 I LIKE WHEN STORIES, YOU KNOW, 396 00:13:08,900 --> 00:13:11,630 ARE POETRY AND ARE SONG. 397 00:13:11,630 --> 00:13:12,800 AND KIDS LOVE POETRY AND SONG. 398 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,900 RAINBOW, BLUE SKY, OPEN UP 399 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:18,770 YOUR -- 400 00:13:18,770 --> 00:13:20,400 >> EYES. 401 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,400 >> I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN 402 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,130 COLUMBUS, OHIO. 403 00:13:23,130 --> 00:13:24,100 WE GREW UP ON THE EAST SIDE OF 404 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:25,800 COLUMBUS. 405 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,830 MY LOVE OF BOOKS STARTED WITH MY 406 00:13:26,830 --> 00:13:27,830 MOTHER. 407 00:13:27,830 --> 00:13:28,870 SHE READ A LOT TO US WHEN WE 408 00:13:28,870 --> 00:13:30,170 WERE YOUNGER. 409 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:31,700 SO, JUST THE TYPICAL LIKE 410 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:34,030 READING STORIES AT BED TIME. 411 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:35,400 AND MY PARENTS WERE REALLY BIG 412 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,270 ON INSTILLING IN US JUST THE 413 00:13:36,270 --> 00:13:38,970 BEAUTY OF BLACK CULTURE AND 414 00:13:38,970 --> 00:13:40,030 AFRICAN CULTURE. 415 00:13:40,030 --> 00:13:41,300 WHEN I GOT A LITTLE BIT OLDER IS 416 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:42,630 WHEN I CAN REMEMBER BOOKS WITH 417 00:13:42,630 --> 00:13:45,400 BLACK CHRACTERS. 418 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,330 >> TURTLE WATCHED THEM TWIST AND 419 00:13:46,330 --> 00:13:49,030 TURN, FULL OF SHIMMER AND SHINE. 420 00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:52,330 A THOUSAND WORKS OF ART SHE 421 00:13:52,330 --> 00:13:56,670 THOUGHT AND EACH ONE IS MINE. 422 00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:57,630 >> SO, TODAY I HAVE A HUSBAND 423 00:13:57,630 --> 00:13:59,200 AND TWO CHILDREN. 424 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,100 AND I'M AN EDUCATOR AND A 425 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:02,330 WRITER. 426 00:14:02,330 --> 00:14:03,700 I'VE GOT MY MASTERS DEGREE IN 427 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:04,570 COMPARATIVE STUDIES WHERE I 428 00:14:04,570 --> 00:14:07,400 STUDIED AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN 429 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,600 AND THINKING ABOUT RACE AND THE 430 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,700 INFLUENCE OF COLORISM IN 431 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:15,130 AFIRCAN-AMERICAN WOMEN. 432 00:14:15,130 --> 00:14:16,200 AND I EVENTUALLY WENT ON TO GET 433 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,270 MY DOCTORATE IN EDUCATION WHERE 434 00:14:17,270 --> 00:14:19,730 MY FOCUS WAS MULTICULTURAL AND 435 00:14:19,730 --> 00:14:22,430 EQUITY STUDIES. 436 00:14:22,430 --> 00:14:25,330 AND SO, WHAT I THINK THE 437 00:14:25,330 --> 00:14:26,270 THROUGHLINE THROUGH ALL OF THAT 438 00:14:26,270 --> 00:14:27,070 IS JUST THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE 439 00:14:27,070 --> 00:14:28,070 AND DIVERSITY IN OUR STORIES AND 440 00:14:28,070 --> 00:14:29,070 HOW THEY MATTER TO THE LIVES 441 00:14:29,070 --> 00:14:31,300 THAT WE LIVE. 442 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:32,370 >> SHE WHIPPED HER HEAD AROUND 443 00:14:32,370 --> 00:14:33,130 AND AROUND. 444 00:14:33,130 --> 00:14:34,200 JUMPED BACK, FORTH, UP, AND 445 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,030 DOWN. 446 00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:39,030 STYLING AND PROFILING WITH HER 447 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:42,200 LOVELY LOCKS. 448 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,970 TURTLE WAS READY TO ROCK. 449 00:14:45,970 --> 00:14:46,900 >> AND I'M NOT AN ARTIST. 450 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:49,070 MY FATHER WAS AN ARTIST. 451 00:14:49,070 --> 00:14:50,130 MY BROTHER'S AN ARTIST. 452 00:14:50,130 --> 00:14:51,400 I DIDN'T GET THE ART GENE. 453 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,770 IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME FOR THE 454 00:14:52,770 --> 00:14:54,770 ILLUSTRATOR TO BE A BLACK WOMAN. 455 00:14:54,770 --> 00:14:56,530 AND SO I FOUND HER ON INSTAGRAM. 456 00:14:56,530 --> 00:14:57,630 I WENT THROUGH AND FOUND SOME 457 00:14:57,630 --> 00:14:58,500 POSTS ABOUT BLACK WOMEN 458 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:00,200 ILLUSTRATORS. 459 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,900 WE BOTH TALKED ABOUT BEING 460 00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:05,430 SENSATIVE TO THE TOPIC OF HAIR 461 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:08,100 AND THE IDEA OF THIS TURLE WAS 462 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:09,570 HAVING A BAD HAIR DAY. 463 00:15:09,570 --> 00:15:10,300 HOW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COULD 464 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:12,500 COME OFF AS SEEING CURLY HAIR AS 465 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:13,970 NEGATIVE. 466 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:15,000 SO, REALLY BEING INTENTIONAL 467 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,600 THROUGH THE STORY AND PICTURES 468 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,330 TO CONVEY THAT IT'S NOT THE HAIR 469 00:15:18,330 --> 00:15:20,870 THAT WAS BAD. 470 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:22,030 EVERYBODY HAS BAD HAIR DAYS. 471 00:15:22,030 --> 00:15:23,630 BUT, THIS IS A STORY ABOUT, YOU 472 00:15:23,630 --> 00:15:25,800 KNOW, A TURTLE THAT'S 473 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,330 NEGOTIATING HER LOVE FOR HER 474 00:15:26,330 --> 00:15:27,830 HAIR. 475 00:15:27,830 --> 00:15:28,970 >> SO, JUST LIKE THAT TURTLE SAW 476 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:30,200 THE LIGHT. 477 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,230 HER CURLS WERE ABSOLUTELY, 478 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:37,670 POSITIVELY DYNAMITE. 479 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:38,700 >> WHEN THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I 480 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:39,800 FEEL LIKE FRUSTRATIONS WITH JUST 481 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,370 BEING AN INDEPENDENT PUBLISHER. 482 00:15:42,370 --> 00:15:43,470 AND, YOU KNOW, THE STRUGGLES OF 483 00:15:43,470 --> 00:15:44,430 KNOWING THAT I FEEL LIKE I HAVE 484 00:15:44,430 --> 00:15:45,470 A GOOD STORY AND I WANT THE 485 00:15:45,470 --> 00:15:48,070 EXPOSURE. 486 00:15:48,070 --> 00:15:49,330 YOU KNOW, YOU GET THOSE VOICES 487 00:15:49,330 --> 00:15:50,770 IN YOUR HEAD AND THEN I HEAR 488 00:15:50,770 --> 00:15:52,430 BACK FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE 489 00:15:52,430 --> 00:15:54,270 THIS STORY MATTERS. 490 00:15:54,270 --> 00:15:55,370 MY KIDS LIKE THIS STORY. 491 00:15:55,370 --> 00:15:56,700 IT'S IMPORTANT AND DRIVES YOU TO 492 00:15:56,700 --> 00:15:57,830 GO AHEAD AND KEEP PUTTING THOSE 493 00:15:57,830 --> 00:15:59,000 STORIES OUT THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE 494 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,870 WANT THEM AND APPRECIATE THEM. 495 00:16:01,870 --> 00:16:02,970 AND THEIR LIVES ARE CHANGED BY 496 00:16:02,970 --> 00:16:04,370 STORIES. 497 00:16:04,370 --> 00:16:05,700 JUST LIKE MY LIFE WAS CHANGED BY 498 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:07,200 STORIES. 499 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,370 SO, IT MATTERS. 500 00:16:08,370 --> 00:16:10,230 ♪♪ 501 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:11,370 >> FLOW, FIERCE, AND FLY FREE 502 00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:12,770 TURTLE SAID. 503 00:16:12,770 --> 00:16:14,730 AND LOOK AT THAT AFRO. 504 00:16:14,730 --> 00:16:16,230 A CROWN ON HER HEAD. 505 00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:18,930 ♪♪ 506 00:16:18,930 --> 00:16:29,670 ♪♪ 507 00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:31,070 >>> ARTIST SUSAN HANDAU'S 508 00:16:31,070 --> 00:16:32,430 CANVASES ARE OF A MINIMALISTIC 509 00:16:32,430 --> 00:16:34,030 NATURE. 510 00:16:34,030 --> 00:16:35,270 WITH COLOR AND TEXTURE, SHE 511 00:16:35,270 --> 00:16:36,700 CREATES ABSTRACT SHAPES 512 00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:39,330 SURROUNDED BY NEUTRAL HUES. 513 00:16:39,330 --> 00:16:40,430 WE HAD TO RENO, NEVADA FOR HER 514 00:16:40,430 --> 00:16:44,470 STORY. 515 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:52,270 ♪♪ 516 00:16:52,270 --> 00:16:54,170 >>> MY NAME IS SUSAN HANDAU AND 517 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:56,470 I'M AN ABSTRACT ARTIST. 518 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:58,300 I WORK IN MIXED MEDIA. 519 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:00,170 I DO ACRYLIC, OIL, SOMETIMES 520 00:17:00,170 --> 00:17:03,130 WAX. 521 00:17:03,130 --> 00:17:04,770 I PUT GYPSUM, MIX IT WIT GLUE 522 00:17:04,770 --> 00:17:06,970 FOR TEXTURE. 523 00:17:06,970 --> 00:17:09,370 AND SOMETIMES I CUT UP PAINTINGS 524 00:17:09,370 --> 00:17:14,670 AND SEW THEM BACK TOGETHER. 525 00:17:14,670 --> 00:17:16,170 I DO COLOR BLOCKING. 526 00:17:16,170 --> 00:17:18,470 IT'S JUST BLOCKS OF COLOR THAT 527 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:20,530 ARE THATCHED AWAY. 528 00:17:20,530 --> 00:17:22,070 IT'S AN ORGANIC KIND OF SHAPE. 529 00:17:22,070 --> 00:17:23,730 IT'S NOT LIKE A SQUARE ANYMORE. 530 00:17:23,730 --> 00:17:26,170 I'VE BEEN CHIPPING AWAY AT IT, 531 00:17:26,170 --> 00:17:27,930 SCRATCHING AWAY AT IT. 532 00:17:27,930 --> 00:17:29,230 AND THEN I'LL DO THE BORDER OR 533 00:17:29,230 --> 00:17:29,970 THE BACKGROUND IN A NEUTRAL 534 00:17:29,970 --> 00:17:33,830 COLOR. 535 00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:34,870 CAN'T REALLY SAY WELL, THAT'S A 536 00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:36,270 TREE OR SOMETHING. 537 00:17:36,270 --> 00:17:40,070 OR, THAT'S LIKE EVEN LIKE A BOX 538 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:40,970 OR SOMETHING. 539 00:17:40,970 --> 00:17:41,730 YOU KIND OF SAY OH, IT ALMOST 540 00:17:41,730 --> 00:17:42,570 LOOKS LIKE THIS, BUT NO IT'S 541 00:17:42,570 --> 00:17:44,100 NOT. 542 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:55,130 ♪♪ 543 00:17:55,130 --> 00:17:56,630 WHEN I START A PAINTING, ALL I 544 00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:57,900 KNOW IS THAT I'M GOING TO DO 545 00:17:57,900 --> 00:17:59,970 COLOR BLOCKING. 546 00:17:59,970 --> 00:18:01,500 AND REALLY I DO A LAYER OF 547 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:05,430 COLORS UPON COLORS. 548 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:07,230 AND THEN I PUT THE GYPSUM IN. 549 00:18:07,230 --> 00:18:08,800 I CALL IT MUD. 550 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,030 YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY MUD, 551 00:18:10,030 --> 00:18:11,170 BUT I JUST PUT THE MUD DOWN 552 00:18:11,170 --> 00:18:14,030 THERE TO BUILD THE TEXTURE UP. 553 00:18:14,030 --> 00:18:14,830 AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT IT 554 00:18:14,830 --> 00:18:17,970 CRACKS A LOT. 555 00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:19,530 IT DRIES AND THEN I START 556 00:18:19,530 --> 00:18:20,670 PUTTING DIFFENT COLOR ON THERE 557 00:18:20,670 --> 00:18:22,170 AND PUSH THE COLOR AROUND IN THE 558 00:18:22,170 --> 00:18:24,300 CRACKS. 559 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:25,300 THEN I'LL PAINT ANOTHER COLOR 560 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:26,470 OVER TOP OF IT AND THEN THE ONE 561 00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:28,170 COLOR WILL STAY IN THE CRACK AND 562 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:30,470 THEN I REALLY SCRAPE IT. 563 00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:32,870 I START SCRAPING AND MARKING, 564 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:33,500 IN. 565 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:34,870 BECAUSE THEN YOU GET DIFFERENT 566 00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:37,130 LAYERS THAT POP OUT. 567 00:18:37,130 --> 00:18:44,470 ♪♪ 568 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:46,700 SO, THAT'S MY CANVASES. 569 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:47,500 SO, WITH MY PAPER THAT'S A WHOLE 570 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:48,500 DIFFERENT STORY. 571 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:49,430 WITH MY PAPER OUTPUT, A LITTLE 572 00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:50,470 TEXTURE ON THERE. 573 00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:51,430 AND THEN I'LL DO THE SAME KIND 574 00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:52,470 OF THING WITH THE PAINT, THE 575 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:55,430 COLOR BLOCKING. 576 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:56,930 AND THEN WHEN I GET IT JUST SO, 577 00:18:56,930 --> 00:18:58,500 JUST HOW I LIKE IT; THEN I CUT 578 00:18:58,500 --> 00:18:59,370 IT UP. 579 00:18:59,370 --> 00:19:00,870 I ACUTALLY CUT THE PAPER. 580 00:19:00,870 --> 00:19:01,630 AND THEN I SEW IT ON TO ANOTHER 581 00:19:01,630 --> 00:19:05,870 PIECE OF PAPER. 582 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:07,230 THEN I'LL JUST SEE HOW IT GOES 583 00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:08,130 AND I DON'T REALLY EVER HAVE 584 00:19:08,130 --> 00:19:09,130 ANYTHING PLANNED. 585 00:19:09,130 --> 00:19:12,600 ♪♪ 586 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,230 COLOR TO ME IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. 587 00:19:15,230 --> 00:19:16,200 WHEN I'M MIXING COLORS TO FIND 588 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,800 AN UNUSUAL COLOR, BIZARRE COLOR 589 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,830 COMBINATIONS, OR ONES THAT 590 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:21,300 REALLY YOU DON'T EXPECT TO SEE 591 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:25,570 TOGETHER. 592 00:19:25,570 --> 00:19:27,300 AND THEN OF COURSE SHAPE. 593 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,370 I REALLY LIKE TO CUT AWAY AT AN 594 00:19:28,370 --> 00:19:30,830 IMAGE TO MAKE IT REALLY MORE 595 00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:34,770 ORGANIC. 596 00:19:34,770 --> 00:19:37,500 IF IT'S NOT RIGHT IN MY MIND, I 597 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:40,800 CAN'T SHOW IT. 598 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,670 JUST KEEP WORKING ON IT UNTIL 599 00:19:41,670 --> 00:19:43,030 ITS RIGHT FOR ME. 600 00:19:43,030 --> 00:19:44,400 EVEN THEN, AFTER A SHOW, IF A 601 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,470 PAINTING DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT; 602 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:47,500 I'LL CHANGE IT. 603 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:48,970 I'LL PAINT OVER IT. 604 00:19:48,970 --> 00:19:49,630 I'VE PAINTED OVER SO MANY 605 00:19:49,630 --> 00:19:50,670 PAINTINGS. 606 00:19:50,670 --> 00:19:53,600 THIS ONE HERE BEHIND ME. 607 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,500 THAT LIKE -- 608 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:55,770 THERE MIGHT BE TWO OR THREE 609 00:19:55,770 --> 00:20:00,400 PAINTINGS UNDER THAT ONE. 610 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,400 I REALLY LIKE BEAUTIFUL THINGS 611 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,100 AND THAT'S LIKE MY GOAL IS TO 612 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:06,670 FOR MYSELF TO REALLY LIKE IT. 613 00:20:06,670 --> 00:20:08,100 THEN I'M SO PROUD OF IT BECAUSE 614 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:11,530 I LOVE IT SO MUCH. 615 00:20:11,530 --> 00:20:12,870 WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS MY PAINTING 616 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:14,330 I'M LIKE OH MY GOSH. 617 00:20:14,330 --> 00:20:17,770 THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY I FEEL. 618 00:20:17,770 --> 00:20:20,100 IT'S NOT THE MONEY THING. 619 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:23,070 IT'S THE FACT THAT WOW, SOMEBODY 620 00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:24,130 REALLY LIKES WHAT I LIKE. 621 00:20:24,130 --> 00:20:25,800 THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD. 622 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,770 IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. 623 00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:38,900 ♪♪ 624 00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:54,200 ♪♪ 625 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,170 WOODY AND MINQUEL INGRAM GREW UP 626 00:20:55,170 --> 00:20:57,030 SINGING FOR SCHOOL TALENT SHOWS 627 00:20:57,030 --> 00:20:59,130 AND REGIONAL SHOWCASES. 628 00:20:59,130 --> 00:21:00,430 THEY'RE CONTINIUING THEIR MUSIC 629 00:21:00,430 --> 00:21:01,930 JOURNEY AS INGRAM STREET, A 630 00:21:01,930 --> 00:21:03,700 COLUMBUS BASED R&B BROTHER DUO 631 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:05,630 DISHING OUT SMOOTH VOCALS AND 632 00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:07,600 CATCHY VERSES. 633 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,600 JOINING THEM IS WIB SCHNEIDER ON 634 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,870 GUITAR. 635 00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:11,270 ENJOY THE MUSIC OF INGRAM 636 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:14,530 STREET. 637 00:21:14,530 --> 00:21:29,330 ♪♪ 638 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:31,830 ♪ BABY BEING WITH YOU IS 639 00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:33,830 BEAUTIFUL ♪ 640 00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:37,670 ♪ HOLDING YOU IS BEAUTIFUL ♪ 641 00:21:37,670 --> 00:21:40,570 ♪ IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR 642 00:21:40,570 --> 00:21:44,130 US ♪ 643 00:21:44,130 --> 00:21:46,700 ♪ BABY TOUCHING YOU IS 644 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:48,800 BEAUTIFUL ♪ 645 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,830 ♪ KISSING YOU IS BEAUTIFUL ♪ 646 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:55,400 ♪ IS THERE A POSSIBLITY FOR 647 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,770 LOVE ♪ 648 00:21:59,770 --> 00:22:01,730 ♪ IT'S BEEN SO HEAVY IN MY 649 00:22:01,730 --> 00:22:03,300 MIND ♪ 650 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:05,170 ♪ CONSTANTLY PLAYING ALL THE 651 00:22:05,170 --> 00:22:07,130 TIME ♪ 652 00:22:07,130 --> 00:22:11,730 ♪ SO MANY EXPECTATIONS ♪ 653 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:16,100 ♪ AND UNSEEN REVELATIONS ♪ 654 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:20,300 ♪ ANCIENT ANTICIPATING ♪ 655 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:22,800 ♪ OH YES I'VE BEEN HERE 656 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,630 WAITING ♪ 657 00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:25,470 ♪ TO FIGURE OUT THIS LOVE ♪ 658 00:22:25,470 --> 00:22:26,370 ♪ AND DIFFERENCE GREW BETWEEN ME 659 00:22:26,370 --> 00:22:27,370 AND YOU ♪ 660 00:22:27,370 --> 00:22:29,130 ♪ BABY BEING WITH YOU IS 661 00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:31,200 BEAUTIFUL ♪ 662 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,070 ♪ HOLDING YOU IS BEAUTIFUL ♪ 663 00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:42,730 ♪ IS THERE A POSSIBLITY FOR US ♪ 664 00:22:42,730 --> 00:22:45,700 ♪ BABY TOUCHING YOU IS 665 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:46,700 BEAUTIFUL ♪ 666 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:48,900 ♪ KISSING YOU IS BEAUTIFUL ♪ 667 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:52,930 ♪ IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR 668 00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:58,630 LOVE♪ 669 00:22:58,630 --> 00:23:00,730 ♪ THIS IS A SIMPLE QUESTION ♪ 670 00:23:00,730 --> 00:23:02,400 ♪ THE ANSWER LEAVES NO 671 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,970 GUESSING ♪ 672 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:07,030 ♪ A LITTLE TREPIDATION ♪ 673 00:23:07,030 --> 00:23:10,100 ♪ MY HEART JUST NEEDS SOME 674 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:12,070 CONFIRMATION ♪ 675 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:14,570 ♪ I'LL FIND A TRILLION REASONS ♪ 676 00:23:14,570 --> 00:23:17,070 ♪ OUR LOVE WILL LAST FOR ALL 677 00:23:17,070 --> 00:23:18,330 SEASONS ♪ 678 00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:20,870 ♪ WINTER I'LL FALL FOR YOU ♪ 679 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:22,730 ♪ THE WHOLE SPRING AND SUMMER 680 00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:24,470 THROUGH ♪ 681 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:26,930 ♪ BABY BEING WITH YOU IS 682 00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:28,230 BEAUTIFUL ♪ 683 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:31,770 ♪ HOLDING YOU IS BEAUTIFUL ♪ 684 00:23:31,770 --> 00:23:35,200 ♪ IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOS 685 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,870 US ♪ 686 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:41,430 ♪ BABY TOUCHING YOU IS 687 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:44,130 BEAUTIFUL ♪ 688 00:23:44,130 --> 00:23:45,900 ♪ KISSING YOU IS BEAUTIFUL ♪ 689 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:49,800 ♪ IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR 690 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,300 LOVE ♪ 691 00:23:52,300 --> 00:24:01,870 ♪♪ 692 00:24:01,870 --> 00:24:07,600 ♪♪ 693 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:15,100 ♪ OOO ♪ 694 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:23,070 ♪♪ 695 00:24:23,070 --> 00:24:26,030 >> FROM THE MOMENT THAT WE MET, 696 00:24:26,030 --> 00:24:29,630 I'VE ONLY HAD EYES FOR YOU. 697 00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:30,530 I THINK ABOUT YOU MORNING AND 698 00:24:30,530 --> 00:24:33,330 NOON. 699 00:24:33,330 --> 00:24:36,670 AND EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. 700 00:24:36,670 --> 00:24:37,930 AND THE THOUGHTS THAT GO THROUGH 701 00:24:37,930 --> 00:24:42,170 MY MIND ABOUT ME AND YOU, 702 00:24:42,170 --> 00:24:43,730 THEY'RE 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