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- County Mayor Lee Harris
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and Germantown
Mayor Mike Palazzolo
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on the deal for the
Germantown Schools.
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I'm Eric Barnes with
the Daily Memphian,
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and thanks for joining us.
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I am joined tonight
by two mayors.
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Mayor Lee Harris, Shelby County.
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Thanks for being here again.
- Sure.
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- Mike Palazzolo,
Mayor of Germantown.
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Thank you for being here.
- Good to be here.
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Along with two reporters,
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Bill Dries from
the Daily Memphian,
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and Abigail Warren from
the Daily Memphian.
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So thank you all for being here.
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I'm gonna start
with the reporters.
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This is a very complicated deal
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that we are all very close
to and know a lot about.
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You all have lived, you all
have reported, not everyone has,
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or understand some
of the history
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behind these three
schools in Germantown.
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The relationship to
the county school
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or county/city school system.
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I'll start with Bill
and then Abigail,
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and just give people a
primer of how this started
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and what has been proposed,
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and then we'll go
through all the details
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with the two mayors.
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- All right, well, we're
almost 10 years of the merger
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and slightly more than
that for the de-merger
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that followed the
following school year
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in the 2014-2015 school year.
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As part of the de-merger
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into the six suburban
school systems,
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there had to be some
kind of resolution
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of what happens to the schools
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that are in the six
towns and cities.
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And what happened was
there was an agreement
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between those towns and cities,
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each one of those
towns and cities,
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and what was then
Shelby County Schools
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for how those buildings
would be dealt with.
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In most cases, not all cases,
which is why we're here today,
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but in most cases, those schools
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that were within
Collierville, Arlington,
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Lakeland, and Bartlett, went
to the new school systems.
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And that agreement was
taken before a federal judge
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and approved by a federal judge
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and the County Commission
signed off on it too.
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In the case of Germantown,
the agreement was different.
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The 3Gs, as we've
called them a lot,
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Germantown Elementary,
Germantown Middle School,
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and Germantown High School,
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remained with Shelby County
Schools in the de-merger.
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The school system said that
it needed those schools
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because of the population
growth in southeast Memphis.
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Also, Lucy Elementary School,
which is within Millington,
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remained with Shelby
County Schools
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what is today Memphis
and Shelby County Schools.
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- And those three Germantown
schools that you'll see us
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do headlines and others do
headlines referring to the 3Gs.
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And people are like,
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why are we talking about
cell phone coverage?
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But it is the three
Germantown schools.
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Abigail, anything to
add on that history
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and where we are?
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- Nothing really to
add, but it has been
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in the last two years,
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there's been even more
discussion about it
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as Germantown sought
to look at possibly
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regaining those
schools and even asking
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the state legislature
to step in.
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I mean, four or five years ago,
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there was an offer
to purchase them.
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The county--
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- An offer from Germantown.
- An offer from Germantown
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to purchase them for 25 million.
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The county said no.
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And so in the past two years,
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the state legislatures looked at
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how they can help
resolve the issue.
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- Or force the issue.
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I mean, I'm not
taking a side on this,
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but a law passed in the last
legislation session said
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that really the
arrangement that it existed
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for some eight, nine
years is no longer valid,
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which forced these negotiations.
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And again, I'm gonna get the
mayors in here in a second.
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Any other background before
we get them in, Bill?
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- Yeah, the legislation
basically gave
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both sides in this until
the end of the year
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just in a couple of weeks
now to work this out
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or the legislature would do it.
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And the principle behind
the legislation was that
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the schools within
the school system
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should be within the boundaries
of that school system.
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- And so come to y'all.
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Thanks for your patience
'cause you all have lived this
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obviously for quite some time.
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But I think for people
who aren't as close,
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it's good to walk through
what's going on and why.
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And right now the
deal is it came out,
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and you all are
gonna fill us in,
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and it's probably to
some degree a moving
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and fast moving target as
we record this on Thursday.
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The offer right now is
that the City of Germantown
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will pay $5 million for the
3 properties in the schools.
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The County Commission has
agreed to put up $72 million
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for the county school system,
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Memphis-Shelby
County School system,
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to build a new high school
in Cordova down the road.
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And the transition of ownership,
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for lack of a better
word or control,
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will be over nine years
for all three schools.
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And then the other
big question is,
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will all three of these
schools at this point
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continue as schools or
will they be demolished?
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Will they be repurposed and
what will happen there?
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I'll go to you county
mayor, what did I miss?
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Anything else that we got wrong
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or that has even changed since
we last reported on this?
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- So the only missing piece
is the Germantown High School.
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So Germantown High School,
under the framework
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that we've all worked
so hard on, would remain
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in Memphis-Shelby County
School's hands to be sold.
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And the City of
Germantown is gonna work
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in collaboration with
the school system
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to sell the property.
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We've currently pegged
the value of the property
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at around $22.5 million.
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So the Germantown piece is 22.5
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because of the value
of that property,
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plus 5 million in cash, 27.5.
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Plus 72 from the county.
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The total investment in kids
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from Memphis-Shelby
County Schools
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to have a first rate
high school in Cordova,
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the total investment
is expected to be
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at least $100 million.
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And I say at least $100 million
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because as you say, there's
a long ramping period here.
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And over the course of
that long ramping period,
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it is conceivable that the
Germantown High School property
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may even fetch higher
than $22.5 million.
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That's a possibility.
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But the point is, is we are
dealing with or have targeted
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around a $100 million
to be invested
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in the Memphis-Shelby
County School system
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to make sure that they bring
a new high school to market,
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which will be the
first time they have
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a new high school for
their kids, for our kids
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in more than 10 years.
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- Okay, so that big piece
I left out, apologies.
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The 22.5 million is
the target for selling,
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for the county selling the
Germantown High School.
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And you all then I'm
gonna segue to you,
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you all are on board
with this deal?
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- Sure.
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- Anything you wanna
add, change, adjust?
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- Sure, and the
mayor did a good job
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of giving an overview,
and I'd be remiss
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if I didn't thank
him for, in essence,
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mediating and leading
all the parties together
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to come around a table
and try to come up
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with a solution
and a compromise.
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And yeah, one of the
linchpins is exactly
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the high school property itself
because it will be marketed,
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and the free market could
come in aggressively
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and buy that particular
property and that can go toward
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the funding of a new high school
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and kind of make everyone whole.
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And we're excited about
it because it's a solution
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that takes care of families
and students and faculty,
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and it ends, various
bill mentioned it,
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it ends a very long
unsustainable saga
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of having an LEA operate in
another LEA's jurisdiction.
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And the only thing I would
take, not exception to,
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on Bill's reporting,
but, you know, literally
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the state legislation
made it legal to do that,
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but all sides have to
come to an agreement
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or make some type of an accord.
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So it's actually this kind
of benefited, you know,
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moving the ball down
the field, so to speak.
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- An LEA is?
- A local education agency.
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- Oh, I thought I
had it, but I didn't.
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Questions, Abigail?
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- I know you talked
about the agreement.
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The discussions
have been ongoing
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for two years, maybe longer.
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And I've heard, what
was the turning point?
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There have been conversations
and conversations.
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I know Mayor Harris that you
stepped in maybe more recently,
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I'm not quite sure.
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But what was the turning point
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when it was finally the
parties came together and said,
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oh, this is a compromise that
we're all comfortable with?
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- Well, I think obviously
operation of state law.
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I mean, that's one of the things
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that played a factor here.
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From my piece, I'll
say that state law
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is obviously a challenge
for all of us at the table,
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but I'd like to view
it as an opportunity.
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Certainly it boxed us in into
a deadline and a schedule,
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and that's the challenge piece.
08:49.028 --> 08:51.497 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
But the opportunity piece was
Memphis-Shelby County Schools
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has a lot of
deferred maintenance.
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And even these buildings,
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as the Germantown
Mayor can tell you,
08:56.335 --> 08:58.671 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
have a lot of deferred
maintenance packed in them.
08:58.671 --> 09:01.107 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
And the one way you
get out of that,
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having kids go to buildings
that need a lot of maintenance,
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is to bring new
product to market.
09:07.513 --> 09:10.516 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And so that's what I view
as an opportunity here
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is that we can build
a new high school
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for the kids in Cordova.
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It can be a first
rate high school,
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the first high school
in more than 10 years.
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And so, you know,
the political will
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is sometimes hard to summon.
09:20.059 --> 09:22.862 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
But you put a deadline out
there and we get in a place
09:22.862 --> 09:24.430 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
where people are summoning
the political will,
09:24.430 --> 09:25.598 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and we still got a
long way to go, right?
09:25.598 --> 09:26.832 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
That's why we're here today
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'cause we got four
different bodies
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that we've gotta
get approvals from
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and we're hopeful
we'll get there.
09:31.103 --> 09:32.872 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
That people will see
this as an opportunity,
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not just a challenge.
09:35.241 --> 09:37.543 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
- Yeah, and I would
just add, I mean,
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not to play on the
school card but, you know,
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I always waited
to the last minute
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on my term papers in college.
09:43.182 --> 09:47.019 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
And it's amazing what urgency
and a deadline will do
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to a transaction
or an agreement.
09:49.755 --> 09:51.757 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And again, the mayor's
done a great job
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of bringing all those
parties together.
09:53.960 --> 09:55.161 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
- Bill.
09:55.161 --> 10:00.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
- So Mayor Harris, where
is the $72.5 million
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that the county is putting
up here going to come from?
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I don't have to tell you, but
maybe the viewers need to know
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that in the coming
budget season,
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that they're gonna
be some other issues
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like funding for Regional
One, I believe further funding
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of a Frayser
Comprehensive High School.
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Is there $72.5 million
there currently?
10:22.588 --> 10:26.559 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
- There's absolutely $72.5
million to make sure kids
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are able to get a first
rate learning environment.
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And so if we can get the
Commission's approval
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and the other legislative bodies
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that have gotta get
a word in on this,
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then I think we're
gonna make it happen.
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The good thing on
the county side,
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we've really been
budget conscious
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over these last
four or five years.
10:40.806 --> 10:43.509 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
So each one of our capital
improvement budgets
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have been limited
to $75 million.
10:45.578 --> 10:49.215 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
And because of that, we've
created some room, capacity
10:49.215 --> 10:52.051 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
to do projects like this if
the political will is there.
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Our credit rating is stellar.
10:53.753 --> 10:56.155 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
We've just gone before the
credit rating agencies,
10:56.155 --> 10:58.257 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and received our credit
rating for the year.
10:58.257 --> 11:01.227 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And so this is another reason
why this is a good time,
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and we've just gone out
to market for new debt
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on the county side.
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And so our interest rate came in
at a very low four percent,
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which is remarkable.
11:10.803 --> 11:15.508 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
And so we have actual cash on
hand or access to cash on hand
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if the political will is
there to get this done.
11:18.511 --> 11:20.980 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- And again, this would
not be $72.5 million
11:20.980 --> 11:22.214 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
in a single year.
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This would be, oh, would
this be over probably
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a nine-year period?
11:26.652 --> 11:29.255 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
- If the County Commission
approves the plan
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as currently set
out, they would amend
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this year's budget right now
for half of the money, 36.25,
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and I would put another
36.25 in the next budget
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that I present to the County
Commission in the spring.
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- And that's part of
the capital budget,
11:44.070 --> 11:46.072 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
not the operating budget?
- That's exactly right.
11:46.072 --> 11:47.807 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Construction capital budget.
11:47.807 --> 11:52.545 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- Mayor Palazzolo, are
there any restrictions
11:52.545 --> 11:55.581 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
on the use of the Germantown
High School property?
11:55.581 --> 11:59.218 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
If you wipe the school
off of that property now,
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demolish it, are you
limited to just something
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that is educational or
could it be any use?
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- Well, the state
statute really pins
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those three properties
for educational use.
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Now if they're an
agreement is reached
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before the state statute
before January 1,
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there can be some, a little
bit more flexibility.
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Those properties,
Germantown Elementary,
12:20.973 --> 12:23.976 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Middle, and High School are all
zoned residential right now.
12:23.976 --> 12:26.746 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
So they'd have to go
through a rezoning process.
12:26.746 --> 12:30.015 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
And, you know, that
pretty much looks the same
12:30.015 --> 12:31.283 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
in all of America.
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It's a step and it
has to go through
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vetting and regulatory bodies,
12:35.421 --> 12:38.457 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
but it's something that
cities do all the time.
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- Does the municipal
school district
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need the space at
this current time?
12:43.429 --> 12:46.465 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Because my impression was
that several years ago,
12:46.465 --> 12:48.567 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
this reached kind
of a choke point,
12:48.567 --> 12:50.636 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
and Jason Manuel,
the superintendent
12:50.636 --> 12:54.340 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
of the Germantown Schools, said
we either expand Riverdale,
12:54.340 --> 12:58.911 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
do an elementary school,
or we get the 3Gs.
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If we don't get the
3Gs, then we do this.
13:01.347 --> 13:02.548 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
- Sure.
13:02.548 --> 13:04.250 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Well, as Abigail
alluded to earlier,
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we made an offer for
all three schools
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for 25 million in 2017.
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That was designed because
we had pressure points
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at the elementary school level.
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When that proposed agreement
did not come to fruition,
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we moved forward with
building in elementary.
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And right now we project
that we're pretty good shape
13:21.600 --> 13:22.968 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
for 10 years.
13:22.968 --> 13:26.238 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
We want to acquire
property for 20 or 25 years
13:26.238 --> 13:27.439 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
down the road.
13:27.439 --> 13:28.841 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
We do a lot of
long-term planning
13:28.841 --> 13:30.943 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
and are a little
bit more strategic,
13:30.943 --> 13:33.045 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
but those buildings
would be used
13:33.045 --> 13:35.347 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
for educational
purposes eventually.
13:35.347 --> 13:37.983 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
- So after the current
students transition out,
13:37.983 --> 13:40.586 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
if there's not a need for 'em,
do the buildings just sit vacant
13:40.586 --> 13:42.254 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
until there is a need for them?
13:42.254 --> 13:43.889 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- Well, that would be
a determination between
13:43.889 --> 13:45.791 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
our friends at Germantown
Municipal School District
13:45.791 --> 13:47.626 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
and the City of Germantown.
13:47.626 --> 13:48.894 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
It's part of an agreement
13:48.894 --> 13:51.530 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that continues to go
back and forth right now.
13:51.530 --> 13:53.299 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
We tend to go back and
look at the statute
13:53.299 --> 13:56.135 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that was passed
because that helps us
13:56.135 --> 13:59.772 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
be grounded in state law,
and we want to follow that
13:59.772 --> 14:01.907 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
because that's the
right thing to do.
14:01.907 --> 14:05.177 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
And so it'll be
determined later on.
14:05.177 --> 14:06.912 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
- So just to go
back through that,
14:06.912 --> 14:08.080 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
'cause there's a lot
of moving pieces here.
14:08.080 --> 14:10.783 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
So the high school specifically,
14:10.783 --> 14:13.118 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
which is gonna
continue to be owned,
14:13.118 --> 14:14.753 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
if this agreement goes through
14:14.753 --> 14:16.522 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
and we'll talk about
those steps also,
14:16.522 --> 14:19.558 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
but that is now
valued at $22 million.
14:20.826 --> 14:22.728 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
I took that as a
fair market value
14:22.728 --> 14:26.765 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
that some private developer
might put up $22 million.
14:26.765 --> 14:28.167 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
They're not gonna
wanna build a school
14:28.167 --> 14:30.035 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
or an educational
facility for $22 million.
14:30.035 --> 14:31.503 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I mean, ostensible unless
there's some college
14:31.503 --> 14:32.738 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
going on in there.
14:32.738 --> 14:34.240 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
So it could, am I
just missing it?
14:34.240 --> 14:37.109 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I mean, it could very much
part of built into this plan
14:37.109 --> 14:40.212 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
is the assumption that that
high school gets repurposed.
14:40.212 --> 14:43.649 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
- Well, the market and
we know the market bears
14:43.649 --> 14:45.117 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
whatever the market bears.
14:45.117 --> 14:48.587 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
And so, you know, a developer
or a prospective developer
14:48.587 --> 14:50.890 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
could come in and
put something there
14:50.890 --> 14:54.894 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
that could be residential or
they could ask for rezoning.
14:54.894 --> 14:57.997 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
It has an institutional
use now in a school.
14:57.997 --> 15:00.432 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
But yeah, it's subject
to what the market bears.
15:00.432 --> 15:01.634 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50%
- Right.
15:01.634 --> 15:04.570 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Methodist, Methodist
Hospital Group,
15:04.570 --> 15:07.139 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
has been talked about
as a use or going,
15:07.139 --> 15:08.507 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
there was a talk
of a cancer center.
15:08.507 --> 15:10.643 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Are you talking to Methodist?
15:10.643 --> 15:12.444 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Are they very interested
in that property?
15:12.444 --> 15:15.381 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
- Well, you guys have
reported a lot about that.
15:15.381 --> 15:16.916 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Of course we've got
a great relationship
15:16.916 --> 15:18.617 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
with Methodist
Le Bonheur Germantown.
15:18.617 --> 15:21.687 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
They're an anchor healthcare
provider in our city.
15:21.687 --> 15:24.123 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
We talk to them, but it
has not moved anything.
15:24.123 --> 15:27.593 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
There's no application,
none of that has occurred.
15:27.593 --> 15:29.194 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
- Am I right though
that Methodist,
15:29.194 --> 15:31.297 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
either because it's a nonprofit
15:31.297 --> 15:32.731 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
or because it's
religious affiliated,
15:32.731 --> 15:34.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
it does not pay taxes
or does not pay the tax
15:34.800 --> 15:37.436 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
that a other type of
development would do that?
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- Yeah, but that's not always
the case in healthcare.
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We have a major
rehabilitation hospital
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that someone else owns the
land, and they pay taxes,
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and they lease, so it
can be complicated.
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- Because that's heavy
on your mind though, right?
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I mean, Germantown
is land locked.
15:50.115 --> 15:52.818 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
It has no more growth
area and you've got
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over many decades, a limit,
I mean, you've talked
15:55.321 --> 15:56.588 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
about this before.
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A limited set of
developable land.
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- Well, our biggest industry,
if you wanna call that,
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in our community is healthcare.
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And so those things
bring, you know,
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even though they may not pay
property taxes, some of them,
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they bring a lot of
other ancillary benefits.
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- Let's go to this question
of kind of two part question
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of what has to happen next.
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You've talked, Mayor Harris,
about County Commission
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has to approve this.
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One, has the County Commission
16:19.611 --> 16:20.913 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
or is leadership at
County Commission
16:20.913 --> 16:22.448 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
been involved in
these negotiations?
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And two, what in the world,
this may be inside baseball,
16:25.117 --> 16:27.653 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but what in the world happened
when the press release came out
16:27.653 --> 16:29.722 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and a whole lot of county
commissioners said,
16:29.722 --> 16:31.357 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
"I had no idea this
was happening."
16:31.357 --> 16:35.160 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Was that just a
miscommunication?
16:35.160 --> 16:36.762 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
Was that a necessity?
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And what are you doing
to get County Commission
16:40.032 --> 16:41.900 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
educated on the deal?
16:41.900 --> 16:43.268 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
- So I talk to
commissioners every day.
16:43.268 --> 16:44.770 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
There's no doubt about it.
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The Mayor of Germantown is
also engaged in that process
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and we're hopeful that
we'll get them to see
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the opportunity here.
16:49.174 --> 16:51.643 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And in terms of working
through the deal,
16:51.643 --> 16:53.145 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
there's no doubt about it.
16:53.145 --> 16:54.980 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
Commissioners were involved
as we worked through the deal.
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So on my end at the
administration level,
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I deal primarily with the
chairman of the Commission.
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So everything I know he knows.
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As we've gone through
every milestone
17:06.091 --> 17:07.826 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
involved in the
negotiation process.
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At the same time, we brought
in many commissioners
17:09.828 --> 17:12.431 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
for one-on-one briefings
including the commissioner
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that is involved in Cordova,
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the commissioner who chairs
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the Education
Commission Committee,
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the commissioner who
chairs the budget committee
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all along the way.
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So we deal with them often and
make sure they're apprised.
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With respect to the release,
17:24.710 --> 17:29.014 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
remember, these things are
hard, fragile, and complex.
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So there's one milestone
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when we get all the parties in
the room and we actually reach
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a framework that
everyone can live with.
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Another milestone is
how you report out
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what the group agreed to.
17:39.725 --> 17:42.361 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And my sentiment, just
speaking for myself,
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is as soon as I get all four
of these parties agreeable
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that they're ready to
give public notice,
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so this is different
from framework,
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but agreeable to public
notice, the public has to know.
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And so that's all on my end.
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We were moving toward this.
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As soon as all four
sides agree, four people,
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four legislative bodies agree,
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then we're gonna
send this thing out.
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So it had nothing to do with
the commissioner anyway.
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It's about that the
public has to know,
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you can't hide anything
from the public.
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And the second, you know,
you get some agreement
18:10.589 --> 18:12.658 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
around the public notice,
the public has a right to know,
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and we're not
gonna hide anything
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on the administrative end.
- The other entities, when you-
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I'm sorry I cut you off there.
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The four entities are Germantown
City, Germantown Schools...
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- Memphis-Shelby County Schools,
Shelby County government.
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- And Shelby County Government.
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And in that scenario, you're
saying Shelby County government
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is both you the mayor and
the County Commission?
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- I'm saying the statement-
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- Because it sounds
like five entities.
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I'm not to be ticky,
but it sounds like five.
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- Well, I guess you
could go up to eight
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if you were to do it.
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Administrative, legislative
sides of each one of those.
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I just meant the
negotiating parties.
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There were four
negotiating parties,
18:44.790 --> 18:48.193 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
and those four negotiating
parties have an obligation,
18:48.193 --> 18:50.662 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
in my opinion, to
reveal the product
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and negotiate to the public
and that's what we're all about.
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- Who all really quickly,
and I'll go back to them,
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who all has to take a vote
for this to be approved?
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County Commission?
- Yes.
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- City of Germantown.
- The board of alderman.
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- Germantown Municipal
School District.
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- And the school board?
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And Memphis-Shelby
County Schools.
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And you've been in
communication with them as well?
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They've been party to this?
- Everyone.
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- Yes, okay. I'm sorry,
go back to you guys.
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- There's been in the statute,
19:14.620 --> 19:16.355 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
it talks about the
land transferring
19:16.355 --> 19:18.557 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
to the city or the LEA.
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Who owns the land when it's
transferred, the campuses,
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the elementary and
middle school campuses?
19:24.930 --> 19:26.798 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
- And I'll take that question.
19:26.798 --> 19:28.367 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
You know, and again,
we're trying to follow
19:28.367 --> 19:32.671 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
the statute that was passed
and stay true to the statute.
19:32.671 --> 19:34.907 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
And so it says either/or.
19:34.907 --> 19:38.043 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
We're working through that
with our school district,
19:38.043 --> 19:41.680 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and at the end of the
day, we're one community.
19:41.680 --> 19:44.016 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
So we'll work through
that piece of things.
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- Either/or being the City of
Germantown or the school system?
19:46.618 --> 19:48.287 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
- Yes.
- Germantown Municipal schools?
19:48.287 --> 19:50.255 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
- Yeah. Back.
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- Mayor Harris, I
believe this budget year
19:53.258 --> 19:55.994 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
had some preliminary
funding for the design
19:55.994 --> 19:58.397 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
of a new comprehensive
high school in Frayser.
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Am I right on that?
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- Let's keep going. Maybe.
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Go ahead.
- All right.
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Is this an either/or situation
20:06.738 --> 20:10.776 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
that the county is involved
in a high school for Cordova
20:10.776 --> 20:12.544 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
or one for Frayser,
but not both?
20:12.544 --> 20:14.813 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Can they both coexist?
- Absolutely.
20:14.813 --> 20:17.382 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
So in terms of background there,
20:17.382 --> 20:18.984 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
the only reason I say I
hesitated a little bit
20:18.984 --> 20:20.485 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
because there's been some action
20:20.485 --> 20:23.956 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
on the part of the county
side and some action on part
20:23.956 --> 20:25.657 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
of Memphis-Shelby
County School system
20:25.657 --> 20:27.192 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
with respect to
Frayser High School.
20:27.192 --> 20:31.530 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And without getting into
every detail of that process,
20:31.530 --> 20:33.398 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
we would love for
there to be investment
20:33.398 --> 20:34.900 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
in the Frayser area.
20:34.900 --> 20:37.936 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And we think that it is ripe
for there to be investment
20:37.936 --> 20:40.606 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
in the Frayser area
with a new high school.
20:40.606 --> 20:42.441 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
There's no one in this community
20:42.441 --> 20:44.443 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that is talked about
investment in Frayser
20:44.443 --> 20:46.878 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
or a new high school
more than yours truly,
20:46.878 --> 20:49.248 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
other than Stephanie
Love on the school board.
20:49.248 --> 20:50.749 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
So I've been beating the drum
20:50.749 --> 20:52.284 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
and raising the
profile of this issue
20:52.284 --> 20:53.719 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
for the last several years.
20:53.719 --> 20:56.855 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
The important piece to
remember is the last Commission
20:56.855 --> 20:59.992 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
voted to take out the money
for the Frayser High School.
20:59.992 --> 21:02.661 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I'm not trying to besmirch
them, but that's what happened.
21:02.661 --> 21:03.962 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
We had money for
Frayser High School.
21:03.962 --> 21:05.197 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
They took it out.
21:05.197 --> 21:08.567 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Edmond Ford, who's a
commissioner, made an amendment
21:08.567 --> 21:10.369 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
to remove the money for
the Frayser High School.
21:10.369 --> 21:13.839 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
And so that kind of, you
know, put us back a little bit
21:13.839 --> 21:15.307 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
on one of the
administration priorities,
21:15.307 --> 21:18.510 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
but that is still a priority
of this administration.
21:18.510 --> 21:22.547 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
And I believe we
can get it done.
21:22.547 --> 21:24.516 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Right now, what we
are all focused on,
21:24.516 --> 21:26.818 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
the four bodies that everybody's
been talking about today,
21:26.818 --> 21:28.353 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
we're focused on the state law,
21:28.353 --> 21:30.789 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
which has an expiration, right?
21:30.789 --> 21:32.491 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
If we don't get something
done at the end of the year,
21:32.491 --> 21:34.393 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
then we're likely
to be in litigation.
21:34.393 --> 21:37.429 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
And this community
has seen too much
21:37.429 --> 21:38.897 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
of that us versus them,
21:38.897 --> 21:42.434 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
suburban versus urban
core, black versus white,
21:42.434 --> 21:43.902 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
wealthy versus hopeful.
21:43.902 --> 21:46.171 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
And I for one am tired of it,
21:46.171 --> 21:49.141 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and I would love to see us with
an ability in this community
21:49.141 --> 21:54.112 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
to reach some sort of consensus
and to go forward together.
21:55.113 --> 21:56.481 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
So that's what this is about
is we've got a state law,
21:56.481 --> 21:58.583 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
which has an expiration.
21:58.583 --> 21:59.818 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
How do you get something done?
21:59.818 --> 22:02.321 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And the county is
always willing, right?
22:02.321 --> 22:06.258 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Frayser, Cordova, South Memphis,
wherever to invest in kids.
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There is no shortage of
resources in my mind,
22:09.361 --> 22:12.364 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
under my administration for
opportunities to invest in kids.
22:13.565 --> 22:15.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
- Let me-
- Three minutes left here.
22:15.133 --> 22:17.903 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
- Okay, let me stray just
a little bit further then.
22:17.903 --> 22:20.605 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
What about Lucy Elementary?
22:20.605 --> 22:21.840 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- So that's not
something I've actually
22:21.840 --> 22:23.141 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
worked on very closely.
22:23.141 --> 22:24.843 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I mean, I've talked a little bit
22:24.843 --> 22:26.478 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
with the superintendent
of Millington Schools.
22:26.478 --> 22:28.714 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
I've mentioned
this a time or two
22:28.714 --> 22:30.248 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
to the county attorney's office.
22:30.248 --> 22:33.285 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
What has happened with this,
with the 3Gs situation,
22:33.285 --> 22:34.986 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
obviously it's persisted
for a very long time
22:34.986 --> 22:37.089 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
and there's, you know, and for.
22:37.089 --> 22:39.257 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I got the feeling, I'm not
gonna speak for anybody.
22:39.257 --> 22:41.193 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I got the feeling that
there wasn't as much
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high level communication around
how to resolve those issues.
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And so for whatever
reason we said,
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well, let's try
to get that done.
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All the parties, right?
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Let's try to take one
last stab at that.
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And so momentum picked up,
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but maybe there's
a solution there.
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That they aren't talking
or that there is not
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a path forward with
respect to other schools,
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I have not heard that.
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So I have not worked on that.
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- I did talk to Millington
Superintendent Bo Griffin
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before we stepped
in here and he said,
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"There's not a date
to sit down and talk
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with Shelby County
Schools at this point."
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So there was a lot of...
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communication
regarding Germantown.
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There's not been a...
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They've had conversations,
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they've gone and they've
toured Lucy Elementary,
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but it's not been they
haven't moved as quickly
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or as maybe aggressively
as Germantown has.
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But Millington has said
if they acquire Lucy,
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that they do plan to continue
to use it as a school
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because they do
need that facility
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due to the growth out there.
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- The nature of the state law
that if you all do nothing,
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it's gonna go to the
Millington School District?
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I mean, you're also a
former law professor, right?
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I mean, just taking
your seat out.
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Like, the way the law is
structured, it's gonna go.
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- And potentially there's
no controversy there
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because if it goes to
Millington School District
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and the students don't
have to move out of there,
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and there is some
sentiment that the students
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might not have to
move out of there,
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then it's just a status quo.
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- And they have four
years to operate
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so they actually have some
time to work through this.
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- I'm glad you mentioned that
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because just with
two minutes here,
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the transition with the
students and the students
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who are going to school in
Germantown Elementary right now
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and the high school and so on.
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How does this, I don't even
know which of you to ask,
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but what about them?
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- Well, I will only answer
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that the children, and the
students, and the families
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are very important to
me and my community.
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And so the nine years
that they'll be able
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to stay at the elementary
and middle school
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are important for
them to conclude
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their education
where they started.
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And that's been important
for us from day one,
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but that's more of a
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Memphis-Shelby County
schools question.
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But we're committed to that.
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- The transition
period of nine years,
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as far as I can tell from
all my conversations,
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it's plenty of time
for all the parties
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to, you know, start a
construction project
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to give a path forward to
all the affected families
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and to make sure that, you know,
every eye is dyed and so forth.
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- Yeah, and we're
looking to have
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the interim superintendent
Tony Williams
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from Memphis-Shelby County
Schools on very soon
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to talk about that
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and all kinds of other
things with the schools.
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Any last questions from y'all?
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We got 40 seconds here.
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- Yeah, with...
[Bill laughs]
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- Yeah. No, that's fine.
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Fast ball.
25:16.715 --> 25:21.152 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
- With 40 seconds left,
mayor, technically
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you didn't have to get
involved in this, did you?
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- No, no, I don't have
to get involved in this,
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but, you know, long-standing
problems, persistent problems,
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yeah, I don't like to see
that in our community.
25:34.799 --> 25:37.335 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So these parties wanted
to try to work it out.
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They really wanted
to try to, you know,
25:39.070 --> 25:41.973 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
get the long-term planning
activity going in Germantown,
25:41.973 --> 25:44.943 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
get a path forward for
displaced families.
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So they had some real objectives
25:46.244 --> 25:49.214 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
that squared really well with
Shelby County's objectives.
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- I'll spend my five seconds
to tell Mayor Harris thank you,
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because county mayors can lead
25:54.452 --> 25:57.122 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and this is an
example of leadership.
25:57.122 --> 25:58.390 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
- All right, we'll
leave it there.
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We'll obviously be
doing a whole lot
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more reporting from these
folks and others on this
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as it goes forward.
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We'll probably do another show
after the Christmas break.
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But thank you for joining us.
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Join us again next week.
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District Attorney
Steve Mulroy is on
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talking about all kinds
of things about crime,
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and changes he's
making in that office.
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If you missed any
of the show today,
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you can get it at wkno.org,
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Thanks, we'll see you next week.
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