>> HOST: IN THIS EDITION

 

OF ARTWORKS.

 

AN IN DEPTH LOOK AT THE COMPLEX

 

CHARACTERS OF "DOWNTON ABBEY."

 

>> WE CAN SEE SHADES OF GRAY

 

IN ALL OF THEM.

 

>> HOST: AN ACTOR DISCOVERS

 

THE CHALLENGE OF BEING CHAPLIN.

 

>> AND THAT SHOULD BE HARD.

 

SO IT IS.

 

>> HOST: A PAINTER WHO LAYERS

 

HIS MESSAGES.

 

AND STUDENTS WHO APPLY CLASSROOM

 

SKILLS FOR GLOBAL GOOD.

 

>> WE USE DESIGN AS A TOOL

 

TO HELP THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

 

>> HOST: IT'S ALL AHEAD ON THIS

 

EDITION OF ARTWORKS!

 

>> ANNOUNCER: ARTWORKS IS MADE

 

POSSIBLE IN PART BY:

 

THE MPT NEW INITIATIVES FUND,

 

FOUNDED BY

 

IRENE AND EDWARD H. KAPLAN.

 

>> HELLO,

 

I'M RHEA FEIKIN

 

AND THIS IS ARTWORKS,

 

A SERIES FOR THE CREATIVELY

 

CURIOUS.

 

>> AND I'M KWAME KWEI-ARMAH.

 

WELCOME BACK.

 

>> RHEA: FANS OF THE HIT SERIES

 

"DOWNTON ABBEY"

 

MIGHT THINK THEY KNOW ALL

 

OF THE CHARACTERS,

 

BUT IN HER NEW OFFICIAL

 

COMPANION BOOK TO THE SERIES,

 

"THE CHRONICLES

 

OF DOWNTON ABBEY,"

 

AUTHOR JESSICA FELLOWES GIVES

 

VIEWERS AN INSIDER'S SCOOP.

 

>> KWAME: FELLOWES HIGHLIGHTS

 

THE BEHIND-THE-SCENES DRAMA

 

DURING THE FILMING OF SEASON 3.

 

AS THE CAST OF "DOWNTON ABBEY"

 

ENTERS THE TUMULTUOUS 1920s.

 

HERE'S A LOOK.

 

>> JESSICA FELLOWES: THE

 

"CHRONICLES OF DOWNTON ABBEY"

 

IS THE OFFICIAL TIE-IN COMPANION

 

BOOK FOR THE TELEVISION SERIES

 

"DOWNTON ABBEY."

 

AND IT'S THE SECOND BOOK

 

THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE SHOW.

 

AND THIS ONE IS VERY CHARACTER

 

LED SO EACH CHAPTER IS HEADED

 

UP BY ONE OR TWO CHARACTERS.

 

AND WE TOOK A TRIPLE-LED

 

APPROACH TO IT,

 

SO THERE'S A LOOK AT THE SHOW

 

ITSELF,

 

THE SERIES AS IF IT WERE A LIVE

 

AND PRESENT THING,

 

WHICH IS HOW IT FEELS WHEN

 

IT COMES INTO OUR TVS ON SUNDAY

 

NIGHTS.

 

AND THEN WE LOOK AT HOW

 

THE PRODUCTION BROUGHT ALL

 

OF THAT TOGETHER,

 

SO JULIAN'S SCRIPTS,

 

THE ACTORS AND WHAT THEY THINK

 

ABOUT THEIR OWN BACK STORIES,

 

THE ART DEPARTMENT,

 

THE HAIR AND COSTUMES

 

AND ALL THE, YOU KNOW,

 

PROPS AND ALL THE REST OF IT.

 

AND THEN THE THIRD LAYER

 

IS THE SOCIAL HISTORIES,

 

THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THE THING

 

IS SET,

 

WHICH DEMONSTRATES

 

THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE SHOW.

 

WHAT IS QUITE INTERESTING IS,

 

I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENT

 

ATMOSPHERE ON THE SETS.

 

THE HIGHCLERE CASTLE,

 

WHICH WAS THE SETTING

 

FOR THE HOUSE AND ALL

 

THE ABOVE-STARS SCENES.

 

I MEAN IT IS A REAL,

 

WORKING HOUSE, YOU KNOW.

 

IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE

 

LIKE THAT FOR THE LAST 400,

 

500 YEARS OR WHATEVER.

 

AND THERE'S THAT REAL SENSE

 

OF ITS PRESENCE AS YOU ARRIVE.

 

AND I THINK IT MAKES

 

ALL THE ACTORS,

 

I MEAN I CAN FEEL MYSELF

 

SITTING UP STRAIGHTER JUST

 

TALKING ABOUT IT.

 

YOU KNOW,

 

YOU KIND OF HAVE TO HAVE

 

THAT PRESENCE IN A ROOM

 

AND YOU TALK IN A DIFFERENT KIND

 

OF WAY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE

 

RESPECT FOR THE HOUSE,

 

IT'S A LOT OF VALUABLES THERE.

 

I MEAN,

 

THE ART DEPARTMENT DOESN'T PUT

 

VERY MUCH IN THERE APART

 

FROM A FEW POTTED PALMS.

 

I MEAN,

 

ALL THOSE THINGS LIKE COSTUMES,

 

THEY REALLY HELP.

 

AND THAT'S WHY,

 

THAT'S PARTLY WHY IT'S SO

 

IMPORTANT THAT EVERYTHING

 

IS AUTHENTIC IN THE WAY

 

THAT IT IS.

 

NOT JUST THAT IT LOOKS RIGHT

 

FOR US,

 

BUT IT HELPS THE ACTORS TO SIT

 

PROPERLY.

 

I MEAN,

 

THE STARCHED COLLARS

 

PARTICULARLY FOR THE MEN,

 

I GATHER,

 

ARE PRETTY HORRIBLE,

 

RUBBING THEIR NECKS QUITE RAW.

 

THE WOMEN OBVIOUSLY HAVE

 

THE CORSETS,

 

HAVE BEGUN TO GET A LITTLE BIT

 

EASIER NOW FOR THE THIRD SEASON,

 

THEY'RE NOT QUITE AS

 

CONSTRICTING AND SORT OF,

 

THEY HAVE THIS SORT

 

OF S-BEND SHAPE ALMOST

 

IN THE FIRST SEASON.

 

NOW IT'S MORE ABOUT FLATTENING

 

THE FIGURE OUT.

 

NEVERTHELESS,

 

THEY ALL HAVE TO WEAR THEM

 

AND LIVE WITH THAT.

 

BUT THAT DOES MAKE THEM SIT

 

IN THE RIGHT WAY AND WALK

 

IN THE RIGHT WAY.

 

AND I THINK ALSO THEY'VE PICKED

 

IT UP AS THEY GO.

 

ROB COLLIER,

 

WHO PLAYS THOMAS,

 

SAYS THAT HE DOESN'T REALLY

 

LIKE WATCHING SCENES

 

FROM THE FIRST SEASON

 

BECAUSE HE THINKS

 

HE WAS WALKING THE WRONG WAY,

 

BECAUSE THEY LEARN

 

YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PUT

 

YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS

 

AND HAVING TO SIT UP

 

AND SIT DOWN AND STAND UP.

 

YOU KNOW,

 

THEY HAD TO RE-SHOOT A SCENE

 

WHEN THE HISTORICAL ADVISER

 

WAS AWAY THAT DAY

 

AND MATTHEW CRAWLEY

 

DIDN'T STAND UP WHEN THE DOWAGER

 

COUNTESS CAME INTO THE ROOM.

 

HE SAID THERE'S ABSOLUTELY

 

NO WAY THAT COULD EVER HAVE

 

HAPPENED.

 

YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY AIR

 

A SCENE LIKE THAT.

 

SO THEY HAD TO REDO IT.

 

JULIAN SAID THAT HE ALWAYS

 

BEGINS WITH THE FUNDAMENTAL

 

BELIEF THAT EVERYBODY IS GOOD.

 

THEY START GOOD

 

AND THEN SOMETHING MAY TAKE

 

THEM OFF THAT PATH ALONG

 

THE WAY.

 

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT

 

IS REALLY INTERESTING ABOUT

 

THE CHARACTERS IS THAT

 

THEY'RE NOT BLACK OR WHITE.

 

THEY'RE NOT GOODIES OR BADDIES.

 

WE CAN SEE SHADES OF GRAY

 

IN ALL OF THEM.

 

I MEAN, EVEN O'BRIEN,

 

WHO'S PROBABLY THE MOST EVIL

 

SCHEMER OF ALL AND EVEN JULIAN

 

WILL ADMIT THAT,

 

THERE ARE STILL TIMES WHEN

 

YOU SEE HER AND YOU THINK,

 

THERE ARE SOME SOFT SPOTS

 

IN THAT HEART.

 

NOW WE WOULD PROBABLY CALL

 

HER DAMAGED AND SEND

 

HER TO THERAPY AND THINGS.

 

BUT THEN SHE JUST HAD TO LIVE

 

HER WAY THROUGH IT.

 

I ALWAYS GET ASKED WHAT'S

 

MY FAVORITE CHARACTER

 

AND IT'S SLIGHTLY LIKE SELECTING

 

YOUR CHILDREN OUT.

 

I'VE GOT TO KNOW THEM ALL

 

SO WELL NOW,

 

I FEEL LIKE I'VE SEEN THEM

 

DEVELOP OVER THREE SEASONS

 

AND TALK TO THE ACTORS AND TALK

 

TO THE PRODUCTION AND,

 

YOU KNOW,

 

ALL THESE SORT OF DETAILS

 

ABOUT THEM.

 

I KIND OF LOVE THEM ALL

 

IN THEIR OWN SPECIAL WAY.

 

>> RHEA: YOU'LL FIND "THE

 

CHRONICLES OF DOWNTON ABBEY"

 

ON BOOKSHELVES NOW AND YOU CAN

 

SEE SEASON THREE ONLINE AT:

 

VIDEO.MPT.TV.

 

ENJOY!

 

>> KWAME: THE NAME

 

"CHARLIE CHAPLIN"

 

CONJURES IMAGES OF A BOWLER HAT

 

AND MUSTACHE.

 

BUT THE ACTOR'S CAREER WAS MUCH

 

BIGGER THAN HIS OVERSIZED

 

TROUSERS AS WE SEE IN THIS

 

INTERVIEW WITH ROB MCCLURE,

 

WHO PLAYS THE MUSTACHED MAN

 

IN THE BROADWAY MUSICAL,

 

"CHAPLIN."

 

>> STEVE ADUBATO: THAT GUY'S

 

GOOD.

 

HE'S RIGHT HERE.

 

HIS NAME'S ROB MCCLURE,

 

HE'S STARRING IN "CHAPLIN,"

 

PLAYING AT THE ETHEL BARRYMORE

 

THEATRE.

 

HE'S AN ACTOR

 

AND HE IS TERRIFIC.

 

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

 

>> ROB MCCLURE: THANKS, STEVE,

 

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

 

>> STEVE: WHAT'S IT LIKE TO SEE

 

YOURSELF STARRING IN "CHAPLIN"

 

LIKE THAT.

 

>> ROB: IT'S WILD, IT'S WILD.

 

IT'S PROFOUNDLY MOVING EVERY

 

NIGHT.

 

YOU KNOW,

 

PEOPLE COME TO THIS SHOW

 

WITH EXPECTATIONS.

 

THEY KNOW THAT SILHOUETTE.

 

THEY KNOW THE HAT,

 

THE CANE AND THE MOUSTACHE.

 

AND FANS OR NOT,

 

YOU OWE IT TO THAT MAN

 

AND THAT LEGACY TO GET

 

THAT RIGHT,

 

AND IT'S REALLY AN HONOR

 

TO TAKE A STAB AT IT EIGHT SHOWS

 

A WEEK.

 

>> STEVE: I WANT YOU TO SHARE

 

WITH US A LITTLE BIT BY THE WAY,

 

YOU'RE BORN AND RAISED

 

IN NEW JERSEY.

 

>> ROB: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT,

 

JUST OVER THE BRIDGE.

 

>> STEVE: PROUD TO HAVE YOU,

 

AS SOMEONE WHO WAS BORN

 

AND RAISED IN JERSEY,

 

TO SEE SOMEONE WHO MADE

 

IT ON BROADWAY.

 

>> ROB: YEAH,

 

I GOT MY START OUT THERE

 

AT THE PAPER MILL.

 

>> STEVE: YEAH,

 

THE PAPER MILL PLAYHOUSE

 

IN MILLBURN.

 

>> ROB: RIGHT, IN MILLBURN.

 

>> STEVE: I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE

 

WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE PERFORMING,

 

TO GO FROM THE PAPER MILL

 

PLAYHOUSE IN MILLBURN

 

TO BROADWAY.

 

BUT I'VE GOT TO ASK YOU,

 

YOU WERE TELLING ME BEFORE

 

YOU GOT ON THE AIR THE RESEARCH

 

YOU DID TO UNDERSTAND CHAPLIN.

 

BY THE WAY, CHAPLIN BOOTCAMP?

 

>> ROB: YES.

 

>> STEVE: BECAUSE HE'S SO

 

PHYSICAL.

 

YOU HAD TO LEARN

 

TO ROLLER SKATE,

 

PLAY THE VIOLIN AND DO THE LAST

 

PART.

 

>> ROB: AND TIGHT ROPE WALKING.

 

>> STEVE: GET OUT OF HERE.

 

>> ROB: YES, IT'S WILD.

 

>> STEVE: YOU DIDN'T KNOW

 

HOW TO TIGHT ROPE WALK?

 

>> ROB: I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO

 

ANY OF THAT STUFF.

 

AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT,

 

PLAYING THE VIOLIN IS ULTIMATELY

 

HARDER THAN EVEN THE TIGHTROPE.

 

IT'S AN INSTRUMENT

 

YOU CAN'T HIDE BEHIND,

 

YOU'RE DEALING WITH HORSE HAIR,

 

YOU KNOW.

 

ANY LITTLE NERVE THEY CAN HEAR.

 

BUT YOU KNOW,

 

IF YOU'RE PLAYING ONE

 

OF THE MOST FAMOUS FUNNY MANS

 

OF ALL TIME,

 

THAT SHOULD BE HARD.

 

SO IT IS.

 

>> STEVE: WELL, TALK ABOUT HARD.

 

CHAPLIN GROWS UP IN A VERY POOR

 

SECTION OF LONDON.

 

>> ROB: SOUTH LONDON, YEAH.

 

>> STEVE: AND YOU SAY 1913

 

HE COMES TO HOLLYWOOD.

 

AND SEVEN YEARS LATER?

 

>> ROB: HE'S THE MOST FAMOUS

 

MAN IN THE WORLD.

 

>> STEVE: NOW,

 

YOU SAID BEFORE WE WENT

 

ON THE AIR THAT YOU REALLY

 

WANTED TO UNDERSTAND

 

THAT JOURNEY AND UNDERSTAND

 

SO MUCH ABOUT WHO HE WAS,

 

WHICH IMPACTED HOW HE PERFORMED.

 

>> ROB: YEAH.

 

>> STEVE: TELL FOLKS SOME

 

OF THE THINGS YOU WERE TELLING

 

ME THAT HAD TO DO WITH HIS

 

PHYSICAL PERSONA,

 

WHICH WAS MUCH DEEPER THAN

 

WE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.

 

>> ROB: YEAH,

 

THE LITTLE TRAMP CHARACTER

 

I DESPERATELY WANTED TO KNOW

 

WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THAT CHARACTER

 

THAT WAS SO TRANSCENDENT

 

THAT ALLOWED HIM TO BECOME

 

SO FAMOUS SO QUICKLY

 

AND SO UNIVERSALLY.

 

I MEAN,

 

FIRST OF ALL THEY WERE SILENT

 

PICTURES SO THEY HAD A UNIVERSAL

 

APPEAL THAT IS UNLIKE ANY MEDIUM

 

TODAY.

 

YOU KNOW,

 

WE GET PEOPLE AT THE STAGE DOOR

 

WHO ARE FROM EASTERN EUROPE

 

AND FROM JAPAN AND FROM ALL OVER

 

THE WORLD AND THEY SAY, LISTEN,

 

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HE MEANS

 

TO US BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE

 

CHILDREN GROWING UP,

 

THOSE WERE THE ONLY AMERICAN

 

MOVIES WE COULD WATCH BECAUSE

 

OF THE LANGUAGE BARRIER.

 

OH MY GOSH, OF COURSE.

 

SO IT TRULY EXPLODED

 

IN A UNIVERSAL WAY, THOUGH,

 

THAT HAD NOT BEEN SEEN BEFORE

 

IN THAT MEDIUM.

 

AND WHAT WAS IT ABOUT

 

THAT CHARACTER THAT MADE PEOPLE

 

CARE SO MUCH?

 

AND I THINK IT WAS WHAT

 

WAS UNDERNEATH THE COMEDY.

 

>> STEVE: SO THE BIG PANTS,

 

ILL-FITTING CLOTHES.

 

>> ROB: YEAH,

 

THEY DIDN'T FIT NOT ONLY BECAUSE

 

THEY MAKE A FUNNY SILHOUETTE

 

BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HIS

 

CLOTHES.

 

HE'S A HOMELESS NOBODY LIVING

 

ON THE STREET,

 

HE PICKED THOSE CLOTHES

 

OUT OF A TRASH CAN,

 

THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T FIT.

 

A LOT OF WHAT GOES ON UNDERNEATH

 

THAT CHARACTER IS A VERY SWEET,

 

MELANCHOLY EVERYMAN TRYING

 

TO MAKE IT AND BE TAKEN

 

SERIOUSLY.

 

>> STEVE: TALK ABOUT THE HAT.

 

>> ROB: YEAH,

 

HE USED TO TIP HIS HAT AT PEOPLE

 

AS THEY WALKED BY,

 

WHETHER IT BE THE FRONT

 

OF THE HAT OR THE BACK

 

OF THE HAT,

 

AND WE ASSOCIATE THAT WITH

 

THE COMEDY OR THE QUIRK

 

OF THAT CHARACTER,

 

BUT REALLY THE MORE I WATCH

 

THE MORE I REALIZE

 

HE WAS DESPERATELY TRYING

 

TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY PEOPLE.

 

SO IF HE COULD FOOL THEM

 

INTO THINKING HE WAS A DIGNITARY

 

OR A WEALTHY PERSON,

 

SOMEONE WOULD TAKE

 

HIM SERIOUSLY.

 

AND WHAT'S SO HEARTBREAKING

 

IS THAT HE WAS FOOLING NOBODY

 

BUT HIMSELF.

 

SO YOU WOULD WATCH THIS SWEET

 

NOBODY OF A MAN AND TRYING

 

TO PUT ONE OVER ON PEOPLE

 

INTO TAKING HIM SERIOUSLY.

 

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY

 

DREW PEOPLE TO HIM.

 

>> STEVE: TALK ABOUT DRAWING

 

PEOPLE TO PERFORMERS,

 

PEOPLE ARE DRAWN TO YOU.

 

HAVE NOT SEEN IT,

 

BUT EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD

 

AND PAULA IS IN MY EAR

 

RIGHT NOW SAYING,

 

ASK ROB ABOUT HIS ABANDON

 

WHEN HE IS PERFORMING.

 

AND THAT'S WHAT I KEEP HEARING,

 

THAT YOU JUST GO FOR IT.

 

WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN?

 

>> ROB: I THINK THERE'S A SENSE

 

OF PLAY WHEN IT COMES

 

WITH THEATER,

 

AND A SENSE OF MAKE BELIEVE.

 

I MEAN, REALLY,

 

WHAT I THINK WE'RE DOING

 

IS PLAYING MAKE BELIEVE

 

IN THE WAY YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE

 

FOUR OR FIVE,

 

YOU JUST GET GOOD ENOUGH

 

AT IT THAT PEOPLE PAY TO WATCH

 

YOU DO IT.

 

THEY START BELIEVING YOU ARE WHO

 

YOU'RE PRETENDING TO BE.

 

>> STEVE: ARE YOU?

 

>> ROB: I THINK FOR THOSE

 

TWO-AND-A-HALF HOURS I THINK

 

I AM.

 

AND WHAT'S GREAT IS THAT

 

IN THOSE MOMENTS IN THE SHOW

 

WHEN THE MAGIC STARTS TO HAPPEN

 

AND THE MOUSTACHE GOES ON,

 

AND THE CANE GOES ON,

 

AND THE HAT,

 

I DO START TO FEEL THE AUDIENCE

 

LEAN IN AND GIVE ME PERMISSION

 

TO BE CHARLIE CHAPLIN FOR THOSE

 

TWO HOURS.

 

AND IT'S A HUGE GIFT AND I GET

 

ALL OF THAT AFFECTION THEY HAVE

 

FOR THAT MAN AND THAT CHARACTER

 

PUT ON ME,

 

WHICH IS SUCH A GREAT HONOR.

 

>> STEVE: AND IT WAS NOT EASY

 

GETTING THAT GIG.

 

YOU HAD SIX CALL BACKS.

 

YOU FOUGHT FOR THIS ROLE.

 

WHY?

 

>> ROB: I DID, I DID.

 

I LOVED IT.

 

I LOVED THE MAN,

 

I LOVED HIS STORY,

 

HE HAD A WILDLY COMPLICATED LIFE

 

WITH UPS AND DOWNS.

 

AND, YEAH,

 

THE AUDITION PROCESS

 

WAS INTENSE.

 

I REMEMBER FOR THE FINAL

 

CALL BACK,

 

IT WAS 5 O'CLOCK ON A MONDAY

 

AND THEY SAID TOMORROW TUESDAY

 

AT 10 A.M. COME BACK AND HAVE

 

TWO MINUTES OF A CHAPLIN-Y

 

THING.

 

>> STEVE: A CHAPLIN-Y THING.

 

>> ROB: A CHAPLIN-Y THING.

 

I SAID,

 

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT

 

THAT MEANS.

 

SO I RAN HOME AND I WAS TRYING

 

TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING

 

AND IT WAS 2:30 IN THE MORNING

 

AND MY WIFE ROLLED OVER IN BED

 

AND SAID,

 

WELL WHY DON'T YOU BRING MUSIC

 

SO YOU'RE NOT COMPLETELY

 

HUNG OUT TO DRY

 

WITH THE SILENCE OF THE ROOM

 

AND I THOUGHT,

 

OH THAT'S GOOD.

 

SO I STARTED LOOKING THROUGH

 

MY PHONE AND IN MY CLASSICAL

 

MUSIC PLAYLIST AND I HAD

 

FLIGHT OF THE BUMBLE BEE.

 

AND I THOUGHT I'M GOING TO BRING

 

THAT AND A FLY SWATTER.

 

AND I'LL FIGHT AN INVISIBLE

 

FLY AND LOSE.

 

AND I THOUGHT, THAT'S IT,

 

AND I FELL ASLEEP.

 

AND THEN THE NEXT MORNING

 

I WOKE UP AND I GOT ON

 

THE AMTRAK TRAIN ON MY WAY

 

TO NEW YORK FROM BOSTON,

 

I WAS DOING A SHOW IN BOSTON,

 

AND I HAD MY HEADPHONES

 

AND A FLY SWATTER AND I'M SURE

 

EVERYONE ON THE TRAIN THOUGHT

 

I WAS OUT OF MY MIND,

 

TRYING TO COME UP WITH THIS BIT.

 

AND THE FIRST TIME I DID IT ON

 

MY FEET WAS IN THE ROOM

 

FOR THE TEAM,

 

AND IT WENT WELL I GUESS.

 

>> STEVE: WHEN YOU WERE DOING

 

IT AND THEY HAD TO MAKE

 

A DECISION, HOW NERVOUS?

 

>> ROB: OH, I'M ALWAYS VERY,

 

VERY NERVOUS.

 

ALWAYS.

 

AND, YOU KNOW,

 

AUDITIONING DOESN'T GET EASIER.

 

YOU KNOW,

 

PEOPLE TALK ABOUT MAKING IT.

 

YOU KNOW,

 

WHEN I DID AVENUE Q

 

I DID AVENUE Q FOR THREE YEARS,

 

ONE OF THE GREATEST THRILLS

 

THEY SAID, YOU MADE IT.

 

WELL WHENEVER THAT JOB ENDS,

 

YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IT AGAIN.

 

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

 

YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

 

SO THERE IS THAT SENSE,

 

EVERY AUDITION YOU'VE GOT

 

TO GO IN AND GIVE IT

 

AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE THE RIGHT

 

FIT.

 

>> STEVE: IT'S NO DIFFERENT

 

HERE.

 

WE'RE MAKING IT.

 

WE'RE HERE IN LINCOLN CENTER

 

DOING THE SHOW.

 

I'M LIKE,

 

HEY I HOPE THIS SHOW KEEPS

 

GOING.

 

IT'S LIKE,

 

WHATEVER IT IS.

 

>> ROB: THAT'S IT, THAT'S IT,

 

THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.

 

AND IT'S ONE OF THE THRILLING

 

THINGS ABOUT THIS BUSINESS,

 

IS THAT EVERY SHOW I DO,

 

THERE'S A NEW BAG OF TRICKS.

 

AND THIS ONE ESPECIALLY,

 

YOU KEEP ADDING THINGS

 

TO YOUR SPECIAL SKILLS SECTION

 

OF YOUR RESUME AND LEARNING

 

TO DO CRAZY PUPPETRY

 

OR WALKING TIGHTROPE OR PLAYING

 

THE VIOLIN AND IT ALLOWS

 

YOU TO FLEX DIFFERENT MUSCLES.

 

>> STEVE: I CAN'T LIKE I SAID,

 

I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE,

 

TO ME,

 

GROWING UP LOVING THE YANKEES,

 

IT'S KIND OF LIKE PLAYING

 

IN YANKEE STADIUM.

 

I'M JUST HAPPY FOR YOU

 

AND I WISH YOU NOTHING

 

BUT THE BEST.

 

ALL THE BEST.

 

>> ROB: THANKS SO MUCH, STEVE,

 

I APPRECIATE IT.

 

>> KWAME: ROB MCCLURE ORIGINALLY

 

CREATED HIS ROLE

 

OF CHARLIE CHAPLIN

 

IN CALIFORNIA'S LA JOLLA

 

PLAYHOUSE IN 2010.

 

>> RHEA: GREGORY EUCLIDE IS NOT

 

YOUR AVERAGE LANDSCAPE ARTIST.

 

WITH INTUITIVE LAYERING

 

OF SPATULA APPLIED PAINT

 

AND FOUND MATERIALS,

 

EUCLID'S PROCESS IS ALMOST

 

AS BREATHTAKING AS THE FINISHED

 

PIECE.

 

TAKE A LOOK.

 

>> GREGORY EUCLIDE: WELL

 

AS A YOUNG ARTIST,

 

I STARTED JUST DRAWING MOSTLY

 

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU COULD

 

GET ATTENTION AND,

 

LIKE ANY PSYCHOLOGIST WILL

 

TELL YOU,

 

IF YOU CAN GET ATTENTION

 

FROM DOING SOMETHING THEN

 

YOU'LL CONTINUE TO DO IT.

 

THIS IS WHERE I GET MY MATERIAL.

 

EVERY TIME IT RAINS YOU CAN

 

FIND,

 

THIS IS SOME KIND OF STYROFOAM,

 

YOU'LL FIND IT ALL OVER HERE.

 

*

 

IF SOMEONE HASN'T SEEN MY WORK

 

BEFORE,

 

I TEND TO DESCRIBE IT

 

AS LANDSCAPE PAINTING,

 

MAYBE CONTEMPORARY LANDSCAPE

 

PAINTING.

 

SO WHAT I'LL DO IS PICK IT ALL

 

UP AND PUT IT IN MY POCKET

 

AND BRING IT ALL BACK.

 

WHENEVER I TRY TO EXPLAIN

 

IT TO SOMEONE IT ENDS UP

 

GETTING VERY LONG WINDED

 

AND VERY CONFUSING AND I USUALLY

 

JUST END UP SAYING

 

IT'S LANDSCAPE PAINTING.

 

I GOT TO KEEP RAINING OTHERWISE

 

I'LL RUN OUT OF SUPPLIES.

 

WELL I USE THE STYROFOAM IN MY

 

WORK TO KIND OF SYMBOLIZE

 

THIS THING THAT'S MAN-MADE.

 

BUT OMNIPRESENT

 

IN THE LANDSCAPE,

 

SO IT'S NOT VERY DIFFICULT

 

TO FIND THIS STUFF EVERYWHERE

 

YOU GO.

 

SO SOMETIMES I'LL USE A SPATULA

 

TO SCRAPE THE PAINT ACROSS

 

THE SURFACE AND LET THE PAINT

 

KIND OF ACT AS PAINT AND NOT

 

APPEAR SO REPRESENTATIONAL.

 

I ALSO LIKE THE WAY

 

THAT IT KIND OF STUMBLES ALONG

 

THE SURFACE.

 

*

 

SO THERE'S LAND HERE

 

AND IN THE CENTER OF THIS SCENE

 

I'M GOING TO CREATE SOME TYPE

 

OF INDUSTRY THAT MOVES

 

IN AND KIND OF STARTS,

 

IS BUILT UPON THAT LAND.

 

THE STUFF THAT'S AROUND

 

THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE

 

DELIBERATE AND ORGANIZED BECAUSE

 

IT'S A CITY,

 

SO CITY PLANNING IS MUCH

 

DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW,

 

A NATURAL PRAIRIE OR A FOREST.

 

I THINK OF IT AS AN EXPERIENCE

 

IN MEMORY SO WHEN I GO OUT

 

INTO A FOREST I WALK THROUGH

 

THE FOREST AND I'M EXPERIENCING

 

THESE VIGNETTES,

 

MOMENT BY MOMENT.

 

AND BY VIGNETTES I MEAN,

 

MAYBE YOU WALK DOWN A HILL

 

AND YOU REMEMBER THAT MOMENT

 

OF WALKING DOWN THE HILL

 

OR YOU COME ACROSS A POND

 

AND THEN YOU REMEMBER SEEING

 

THAT OR SPENDING TIME THERE

 

AND THEN YOU MOVE ON TO A NEW

 

PLACE.

 

YOU START TO THINK ABOUT

 

THE ECOSYSTEMS AND IN GENERAL

 

IT'S JUST OVERWHELMING.

 

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ONE PERSON

 

TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S EVEN

 

GOING ON IN ONE FOOT OF SPACE

 

IN THE FOREST.

 

AND THAT COMPLEXITY AND THAT

 

DENSITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART

 

OF MY WORK.

 

IT'S LIKE YOU THINK THAT'S JUST

 

A CITY?

 

WELL, NO IT'S A,

 

THERE USED TO BE OAK SAVANNAH

 

THERE AND BEFORE

 

THE OAK SAVANNAH IT USED

 

TO BE HUNTED BY, YOU KNOW,

 

DAKOTA AND SUE,

 

AND BEFORE THAT IT'S LIKE.

 

THE HISTORY OF SPACE IS,

 

WE OFTEN FORGET ABOUT.

 

THIS IS NATURE,

 

LIKE DEAD NATURE AND THEN

 

CULTURE.

 

SO YOU'VE GOT COFFEE CUPS,

 

STYROFOAM,

 

IT'S LIKE THIS IS THE PERFECT

 

BLENDING POT RIGHT HERE.

 

THIS IS LIKE REALITY OF WHAT

 

EXISTS.

 

I'VE GOT THIS FRAMEWORK

 

ESTABLISHED HERE,

 

AND THE WATER WORKS GREAT

 

BECAUSE I CAN GO AND ERASE

 

THINGS.

 

LIKE THIS AREA RIGHT HERE,

 

IF I SPRAY THAT UP CLOSE

 

YOU CAN SEE THAT LIKE ANY PAINT

 

THAT WAS STILL WET WILL START

 

TO FALL AWAY.

 

AND YOU GET THIS PATTERN

 

OF DECAY AND THEN HAVING

 

THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN ON

 

THE SURFACE OF THE PAINTING

 

ALWAYS SEEMED INTERESTING.

 

IN ORDER TO HOLD THEM,

 

THEY NEED TO DRY LIKE THAT.

 

I THINK ABOUT WHAT'S

 

REPRESENTED TWO-DIMENSIONALLY

 

AND SOMETIMES TRY TO CREATE

 

A COMPLEMENT TO IT

 

THREE-DIMENSIONALLY.

 

THIS ALL STARTED BY,

 

I MADE SOME PAINTINGS THAT

 

HAD TWO OR THREE SHEETS

 

OF PAPER ON IT.

 

AND I WOULD GO THROUGH

 

AND I WOULD RIP THROUGH THEM

 

AND THEN I'D START PAINTING

 

THE NEXT SCENE ON TO THAT

 

AS THOUGH IT'S LIKE A MOMENT

 

IN TIME.

 

AND THEN YOU PASS THROUGH

 

THE THRESHOLD OF THAT MOMENT

 

INTO THE NEXT STAGE.

 

THE PAINT THAT DRIPS DOWN

 

WOULD POOL UP INSIDE OF THESE,

 

LIKE, RELIEF AREAS.

 

I THOUGHT OKAY WELL THAT RELIEF

 

AREA THEN BECOMES A LAKE.

 

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN

 

AROUND A LAKE?

 

YOU'RE GONNA GET,

 

THERE'S WATER THERE

 

SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE GROWTH

 

UP AROUND THE LAKE,

 

SO IT SEEMED LIKE A RICH PLACE

 

TO KIND OF START PUTTING

 

THE RELIEF ELEMENTS IN.

 

JUST HAVING THEM STAND THERE

 

LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN

 

BECAUSE THE PAPER COMES OUT

 

IN RELIEF,

 

THEN THE OBJECTS CAN USE

 

THAT AS A FOOTHOLD TO START,

 

IT'S LIKE ON THE SIDE

 

OF A CLIFF.

 

ANY ROCK THAT COMES OUT,

 

THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING

 

THAT'S GROWING ON THERE,

 

WHERE AS THE CLIFF FACE

 

IT'S MUCH MORE RARE.

 

WHEN I BRING SCULPTURAL ELEMENTS

 

IN OR LIKE PIECES FROM THE LAND,

 

I HAVE A TENDENCY TO THINK ABOUT

 

MODES OF REPRESENTATION.

 

DO YOU HAVE AN ILLUSIONISTIC

 

SPACE THAT IS PAINTED

 

WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO

 

AND WITH THEIR MIND YOU HAVE

 

A SPACE THAT ACTUALLY COMES OUT

 

THAT PEOPLE CAN MOVE AROUND

 

WITH THEIR BODY AND THEN

 

YOU HAVE THESE LIKE FAKE KIND

 

OF MODEL TYPE MATERIALS THAT

 

ARE PRODUCED ON THERE.

 

TREES THAT I MAKE FROM SEDUM

 

OR LIKE THE TEXTURAL TYPE

 

OF THINGS.

 

SO I STARTED FOOLING AROUND

 

WITH VARIOUS PLASTIC BAGS.

 

THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN TAKE

 

AND MAKE A FORM THAT LOOKS

 

LIKE SOMETHING NATURAL OUT

 

OF SOMETHING THAT'S YOU KNOW,

 

PETROLEUM BASED AND COMPLETELY

 

DESTRUCTIVE AND HAVE THAT

 

IN THIS LANDSCAPE THAT'S KIND

 

OF IMPORTANT BECAUSE

 

THE LANDSCAPE ITSELF SEEMS

 

VERY PICTURESQUE.

 

BUT, YOU KNOW,

 

THESE ARE THE THINGS WE USE

 

ON A DAILY BASIS THAT ARE

 

THE ANTITHESIS TO THIS KIND

 

OF IDEA.

 

ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MODES

 

OF REPRESENTATION

 

GET INTRODUCED INTO

 

THE SCULPTURAL MIX AND IT'S

 

KIND OF LEFT TO THE VIEWER

 

TO NEGOTIATE HOW THOSE THINGS

 

BLEND TOGETHER.

 

IF I JUST MADE BEAUTIFUL

 

PAINTINGS,

 

WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET

 

AT WITHIN THE WORK WOULD BE

 

LOST, YOU KNOW.

 

SO IF I COULD INTRODUCE AS MUCH

 

GARBAGE AS POSSIBLE

 

FROM THE LAND INTO THE WORK,

 

THAT KIND OF REFLECTS ON

 

THE STATE OF LAND TODAY

 

AS WELL AS MAKING THE PAINTING

 

A LITTLE MORE REALISTIC TO ME.

 

I WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE

 

I'M PRESENT IN THE LAND

 

IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW,

 

AND IT CONTAINS ALL

 

OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAVE.

 

I THINK THAT'S HOW I WANT

 

TO JUST KEEP MAKING IT MORE

 

AND MORE REALISTIC IN THAT

 

SENSE.

 

WHEN I LOOK AT A LANDSCAPE

 

PAINTING I THINK WELL

 

THAT'S LIKE ONE-TWELFTH

 

OF THE STORY.

 

>> RHEA: GREGORY EUCLIDE

 

RECENTLY WRAPPED SHOWS

 

IN MINNEAPOLIS, MIAMI,

 

AND NEW YORK.

 

HIS ART IS ALSO FEATURED

 

ON THE COVERS OF SEVERAL

 

BON IVER ALBUMS.

 

TO FIND OUT MORE,

 

VISIT

 

GREGORYEUCLIDE.COM.

 

NEXT,

 

WE VISIT PRATT INSTITUTE

 

IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK.

 

PRATT IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S

 

MOST PRESTIGIOUS COLLEGES

 

OF ART, DESIGN,

 

AND ARCHITECTURE.

 

ITS ALUMNI AND FACULTY HAVE

 

PRODUCED WORKS THAT HAVE CHANGED

 

THE WORLD.

 

NOW CELEBRATING ITS 125TH YEAR,

 

PRATT INSTITUTE IS HELPING

 

DESIGN STUDENTS MAKE

 

A MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE WORLD

 

WITH ITS "DESIGN INCUBATOR."

 

STUDENTS USE THEIR SKILLS

 

TO CREATE SUSTAINABLE PRODUCTS

 

AND SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE

 

COMPANIES.

 

HERE'S A LOOK.

 

>> DEBERA JOHNSON: THE "DESIGN

 

INCUBATOR" IS REALLY FOCUSING

 

ON TRANSITIONING DESIGNERS

 

INTO DESIGN ENTREPRENEURS.

 

THESE CREATIVE,

 

TALENTED PEOPLE

 

STARTING ENTERPRISES,

 

BEING ENTREPRENEURS AND THIS

 

IS A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME

 

IN AND THEY CAN FIGURE OUT

 

HOW TO DO THIS.

 

WE WANT TO DO THINGS THAT

 

ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY BETTER,

 

SOCIALLY BETTER AND SO IT'S

 

THOSE VALUES THAT CONNECT

 

US ALL.

 

>> SAMUEL COCHRAN: YOU KNOW,

 

WHEN WE STARTED,

 

WE DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT

 

HOW TO START A BUSINESS

 

AND THE INCUBATOR

 

AND ITS RESOURCES HAS ALLOWED

 

FOR US TO GAIN THAT EDUCATION

 

IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

 

WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE OF OUR

 

FIRST PROTOTYPES OF SOLAR IVY

 

AND SOLAR IVY IS A SYSTEM

 

OF SOLAR PANELS OR PHOTOVOLTAICS

 

THAT INTERACT WITH OUR BUILT

 

ENVIRONMENT SUCH THAT THEY

 

CAN BE TUNED TO BE OPTIMIZED

 

FOR CAPTURING ENERGY

 

AND PRODUCING ELECTRICITY

 

WHILE LOOKING LIKE IVY ON

 

THE SIDE OF A BUILDING.

 

>> ASHLEY THORFINNSON: DESIGNING

 

HOPE IS AN INTERDISCIPLINARY

 

DESIGN FIRM THAT WORKS

 

WITH NON-PROFITS AND SOCIAL

 

VENTURES AND WE USE DESIGN

 

AS A TOOL TO HELP THESE

 

ORGANIZATIONS MAKE A POSITIVE

 

IMPACT.

 

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING

 

WITH TILONIA,

 

THEY ARE A NOT PROFIT ARTISAN

 

GROUP BASED OUT OF INDIA.

 

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING

 

WITH THEIR DESIGNERS

 

IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY TO HELP

 

BRING A LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION

 

TO THEIR ALREADY EXISTING

 

CRAFT WORK WHICH GIVES THEM

 

MARKET ACCESS IN NORTH AMERICA.

 

>> DEBERA: IN THE

 

"DESIGN INCUBATOR" WE'RE REALLY

 

QUITE PRACTICAL.

 

AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE

 

OF CHARLES PRATT'S IDEAS

 

WAS THIS IDEA OF BEING ABLE

 

TO TRAIN PEOPLE TO GO OUT

 

AND DO THINGS IN A PRACTICAL

 

WAY.

 

>> RHEA: AS PART OF ITS

 

125TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION,

 

PRATT INSTITUTE IS HOSTING

 

AN EXHIBITION AT ITS NEW YORK

 

CAMPUS OF ICONIC WORKS CREATED

 

BY PRATT ALUMNI AND FACULTY.

 

THESE RANGE FROM THE SCRABBLE

 

BOARD GAME TO THE CHRYSLER

 

BUILDING TO OX-OH GOOD GRIPS

 

KITCHEN UTENSILS.

 

AND NOW,

 

HERE'S A LOOK AT SOME

 

OF THE ARTS EVENTS HAPPENING

 

THIS WEEK IN OUR TOWN.

 

>> KWAME: THAT WRAPS IT UP

 

FOR THIS EDITION OF ARTWORKS.

 

I'M KWAME KWEI-ARMAH.

 

>> RHEA: FOR MORE ARTS

 

AND CULTURE,

 

VISIT MPT.ORG/ARTWORKS.

 

I'M RHEA FEIKIN,

 

THANKS FOR WATCHING.

 

AND,

 

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY

 

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON

 

YOUR INDUCTION TO THE ORDER

 

OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE.

 

WE ARE VERY PROUD TO HAVE YOU

 

ON ARTWORKS.

 

>> KWAME: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

 

AND PLEASE,

 

DO TUNE IN NEXT WEEK AND SUPPORT

 

THE ARTS.

 

>> ANNOUNCER: ARTWORKS IS MADE

 

POSSIBLE IN PART BY:

 

THE MPT NEW INITIATIVES FUND,

 

FOUNDED BY

 

IRENE AND EDWARD H. KAPLAN.