>> HOST: IN THIS EDITION

 

OF ARTWORKS.

 

A LEGENDARY ROCK STAR.

 

A SMASH BROADWAY PRODUCTION

 

GALLOPING ACROSS THE NATION.

 

AN ARTIST WITH

 

WEST AFRICAN ROOTS

 

AND A GLOBAL AESTHETIC.

 

AND THE IMPACT

 

OF A FAMOUS POP ARTIST.

 

IT'S ALL AHEAD ON ARTWORKS.

 

>> ANNOUNCER: ARTWORKS IS MADE

 

POSSIBLE IN PART BY:

 

THE MPT NEW INITIATIVES FUND,

 

FOUNDED BY

 

IRENE AND EDWARD H. KAPLAN.

 

>> HELLO,

 

I'M RHEA FEIKIN

 

AND THIS IS ARTWORKS.

 

STAY TUNED FOR SOME

 

EXCITING STORIES THIS WEEK.

 

>> I'M KWAME KWEI-ARMAH.

 

MANY KNOW PETE TOWNSEND

 

AS A FOUNDING MEMBER

 

OF THE LEGENDARY BRITISH

 

ROCK 'N' ROLL BAND THE WHO.

 

THE GUITARIST WHO SMASHED

 

HIS GUITARS ONSTAGE.

 

>> RHEA: IN THIS INTERVIEW

 

WITH PAUL HOLDENGRABER

 

AT THE NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY,

 

TOWNSEND DESCRIBES HOW

 

ART SCHOOL INSPIRED HIM

 

TO FORM ONE OF THE MOST

 

INFLUENTIAL ROCK BANDS

 

IN HISTORY.

 

>> KWAME: AND ABOUT THOSE

 

SMASHING GUITARS?

 

THERE WAS METHOD BEHIND

 

THE MADNESS SO HE SAYS.

 

HERE'S A LOOK.

 

>> PETE TOWNSHEND: I WAS VERY

 

LUCKY.

 

I WASN'T JUST LUCKY

 

TO HAVE BEEN THE SON

 

OF A POPULAR MUSICIAN

 

OR A MUSICIAN PLAYING

 

POPULAR MUSIC.

 

I WAS ALSO VERY LUCKY TO HAVE

 

THE TIMING FOR ME

 

WHEN I MOVED.

 

IF I'D HAVE MOVED INTO MUSIC

 

PROFESSIONALLY BEFORE I WENT

 

TO ART SCHOOL

 

I WOULD HAVE MISSED ONE

 

OF THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY

 

ART SCHOOL COURSES

 

THAT THE UK EVER PRODUCED,

 

WHICH WAS CALLED

 

THE BASIC COURSE.

 

AND IT WAS REVISED BY THIS

 

EXTRAORDINARY MAN CALLED,

 

ROY ASCOT WITH TWO OTHER GUYS

 

HOWARD COHEN,

 

WHO WAS A COMPUTER VISIONARY

 

AS AN ARTIST,

 

AND HIS BROTHER,

 

BERNARD WHO WENT ON TO BE

 

THE HEAD AT THE SLADE

 

THE FINEST ART SCHOOL

 

IN, IN BRITAIN.

 

AND YOUNG PAINTERS FROM CORNWALL

 

AND LECTURERS BROUGHT

 

IN LIKE LARRY RIVERS,

 

CAME AND STAYED AT OUR COLLEGE

 

FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS.

 

AND GUSTAV METZGER,

 

THE AUTO-DESTRUCTIVE ARTIST

 

WHOSE WORK WAS NOTHING

 

TO DO WITH DESTRUCTION AT ALL.

 

IT WAS TO DO WITH THE FACT

 

THAT WE AS PEOPLE WERE

 

DESTROYING OUR ENVIRONMENT.

 

NO,

 

WE WERE DESTROYING NATURE

 

AND CALLING IT AN ENVIRONMENT.

 

AND AS AN ARTIST,

 

WHAT YOU HAD WAS THE DUTY

 

TO REFLECT THAT,

 

TO REFLECT THAT DESTRUCTION.

 

AND, UH SO,

 

ARMED WITH THE IDEA THAT,

 

THAT, THAT THE END WAS COMING.

 

THE CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE

 

THAT THE END WAS COMING.

 

ARMED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE

 

THAT I HAD A DUTY TO MAKE

 

MY MUSIC SOUND LIKE

 

WHAT IT WAS THAT I THOUGHT

 

WAS COMING,

 

ARMED WITH THE IDEA

 

THAT I HAD TO DO SOMETHING

 

WITH THIS BAND, WHO OKAY,

 

THEY WERE NOT THE PERFECT

 

INSTRUMENT.

 

I DIDN'T FEEL THEY WERE

 

AT THE TIME.

 

BUT THEY BECAME SO.

 

YOU KNOW,

 

THE WHO, I COULDN'T HAVE

 

HAD BETTER MEN BESIDE ME.

 

I COULDN'T HAVE.

 

YOU KNOW, THAT IN FACT,

 

IF IT WE HAD BEEN FOUR

 

ARTY-FARTY ART STUDENTS

 

WHO ALL THOUGHT LIKE I DID,

 

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN

 

A COMPLETE MESS, YOU KNOW.

 

I JUST USED TO KIND

 

OF WALK AROUND WITH MY ARTY

 

IDEAS AND THE REST OF THEM

 

GOT ON WITH THE JOB.

 

YOU KNOW,

 

ROGER OFTEN TALKS ABOUT

 

THE FACT THAT HE USED

 

TO HAVE TO COME ROUND

 

AND DIG ME OUT OF BED, YOU KNOW.

 

BUT, TO GO TO SHOWS.

 

BECAUSE I WAS A DEEP THINKER.

 

I LISTENED TO YOU KNOW,

 

R&BRECORDS.

 

BUT THAT MOMENT OF UNITING

 

WHAT HAD HAPPENED WHAT I

 

WAS WHAT I'D BEEN TAUGHT

 

AT ART SCHOOL AND SUDDENLY

 

REALIZING THAT THIS LITTLE BAND

 

I WAS IN,

 

THIS LITTLE R&BBAND

 

WE WERE JUST ONE OF THE BANDS

 

AROUND AT THE TIME

 

IN WEST LONDON

 

HAD THIS POTENTIAL TO MAKE THIS

 

EXTRAORDINARY NOISE.

 

AND ROGER AS A SINGER IS

 

QUITE INTERESTING BECAUSE

 

HE HIS TWO OF THE SINGERS

 

THAT HE LOVED THE MOST

 

ONE WAS HOWLING WOLF,

 

WHO HOWLED LIKE A WOLF.

 

SMOKESTACK LIGHTNING.

 

YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT.

 

SING.

 

AND,

 

AND THAT THIS LITTLE SKINNY,

 

LITTLE GUY.

 

THIS LITTLE MOD GUY

 

IN FRONT OF THE BAND,

 

HOWLING WITH THIS HUGE VOICE.

 

ME, MAKING MY NOISE.

 

AND JOHN ENTWISTLE

 

AS A BASS PLAYER WAS ANOTHER

 

EXTRAORDINARY CHARACTER.

 

HE WASN'T CONTENT TO PLAY

 

THE BASS.

 

HE WANTED IT TO BE MORE.

 

HE WANTED IT TO BE LIKE

 

A HUGE ORGAN.

 

AND HAD THESE SPECIAL STRINGS

 

MADE THAT DIDN'T GO BOOM.

 

THEY WENT WANG.

 

AND, UM WOULD BANG AWAY.

 

AND, UH KEITH MOON,

 

OF COURSE,

 

WE ALL WE ALL KNOW ABOUT

 

THIS INCREDIBLY EXPRESSIVE,

 

FLUID,

 

ALMOST ORCHESTRAL DRUMMER.

 

HE HE DIDN'T PLAY BOM,

 

BOM, BOM,

 

LIKE MOST R&BDRUMMERS DO.

 

HE'D GO BUM-BUM-PSSSSH,

 

BUM-BUM-PSSSH,

 

BUM-BAH-BUM-BAH-BUM-BAH-BO OM.

 

AND IT WAS ALL KIND OF LIKE

 

ORCHESTRAL DRUMMING.

 

IT WAS DECORATIVE.

 

AND SO,

 

WHEN I'M STANDING THERE

 

PRETENDING TO BE,

 

YOU KNOW,

 

THE BIG PLANE THAT'S BRINGING

 

THE BOMB THAT'S GOING TO BE

 

THE END OF THE WORLD,

 

ISN'T IT SAD.

 

YOU KNOW.

 

RRRRRRRRRRRRR.

 

DON'T LOOK AT MY NOSE.

 

IT'S COMING.

 

RRRRRRR.

 

AROUND ME,

 

THIS ROGER GUY RRRRRRRAARRRRR,

 

JOHN ENTWISTLE BANGING AWAY,

 

MAKING A NOISE LIKE FIVE

 

OR SIX, YOU KNOW,

 

HUGE THEATER ORGANS

 

ALL PLAYING AT ONCE

 

AND KEITH MAKING THIS

 

IN YOU KNOW,

 

INCREDIBLE KIND OF ALMOST

 

LIKE TYMPANI AND CYMBALS

 

AND, YOU KNOW,

 

NOT LIKE THE NORMAL KIND

 

OF MUSIC THAT OTHER BANDS

 

WERE MAKING.

 

IT WAS BEDLAM,

 

TO SAY THE LEAST.

 

AND IT WAS PART OF IT FOR

 

THE ARTISTIC STATEMENT

 

I WANTED TO MAKE.

 

>> PAUL HOLDENGROBER: SO,

 

THE GENEALOGY

 

OF THE DESTRUCTION

 

OF THE GUITARS COMES FROM...

 

>> PETE TOWNSHEND: IT COMES OUT

 

OF THAT THING OF THINKING

 

AFTER A WHILE THAT THIS

 

ISN'T ENOUGH AND THAT

 

WHAT I HAVE TO DO

 

IS I HAVE TO MAKE SOME NEW

 

SOUNDS.

 

AND I START BANGING THE GUITAR

 

AROUND AND I AND THEN

 

THAT BECOMES VERY,

 

VERY INTERESTING.

 

THE GUITAR I WAS USING IN THESE

 

EARLY DAYS,

 

WAS A RICKENBACKER.

 

IT'S A VERY LIGHT-BUILT GUITAR.

 

IT'S VERY DELICATE.

 

AND THIN WOOD.

 

AND VERY VIBRANT.

 

IT'S A SEMI-ACOUSTIC GUITAR.

 

SO,

 

IT WOULD FEEDBACK EASILY

 

AND MAKE THIS INCREDIBLY

 

EXTRAORDINARY SOUND.

 

BUT THEN I WOULD BANG IT

 

IN THE AMPLIFIER

 

AND AS I DID SO,

 

IT WOULD KIND OF GO BOING-CRASH.

 

AND SCRAPE THE STRINGS

 

AND THAT KIND OF BECAME

 

ANOTHER SOUND AND SCRAPE

 

SCRAPING THE STRINGS UP AND DOWN

 

THE MIC STAND.

 

AND,

 

I IMAGINED THAT WHEN I BROKE

 

THE GUITAR,

 

I HIT THE GUITAR ON THE GROUND,

 

BOUNCED THE GUITAR

 

ON THE GROUND,

 

BASHED IT ON THE CEILING

 

OR WHATEVER,

 

THAT IT WOULD MAKE

 

AN INTERESTING SOUND.

 

AND IT DID.

 

AND IT WAS ALSO, YOU KNOW,

 

I LOOKED PRETTY COOL

 

DOING IT AS WELL.

 

[LAUGHTER]

 

>> RHEA: SO, DID YOU SEE THEM?

 

>> KWAME: WHO?

 

>> RHEA: THE WHO THEY JUST

 

COMPLETED A NORTH AMERICAN TOUR

 

IN FEBRUARY.

 

BUT YOU'LL FIND

 

PETE TOWNSHEND'S MEMOIR,

 

"WHO I AM" ON THE BOOKSHELVES

 

NOW.

 

>> KWAME: SINCE ITS DEBUT

 

AT THE NATIONAL THEATER

 

IN LONDON'S WEST END,

 

"WAR HORSE" HAS GALLOPED AWAY

 

WITH A STREAM OF ACCOLADES,

 

INCLUDING A TONY AWARD

 

FOR BEST PLAY IN 2011.

 

NOW THE FIRST NATIONAL

 

TOURING PRODUCTION OF THE PLAY

 

IS TRAVELING ACROSS THE U.S..

 

JARED BOWEN SEIZED A CHANCE

 

TO MEET WITH THE COMPANY

 

AND GET A REVEALING LOOK

 

AT THE SHOW'S UNIQUE EQUINE

 

STAR.

 

>> JARED BOWEN: IT'S

 

THE ENGLISH COUNTRYSIDE,

 

1912.

 

A TEENAGER NAMED ALBERT RAISES

 

A COLT HE CALLS JOEY.

 

THEIR BOND IS IMMEDIATE

 

AND UNWAVERING.

 

BUT AT THE OUTBREAK

 

OF WORLD WAR I,

 

JOEY IS CONSCRIPTED

 

INTO THE BRITISH ARMY.

 

>> I DO SOLEMLY SWEAR

 

THAT WE SHALL BE TOGETHER AGAIN.

 

>> JARED: WAR HORSE TRACES

 

JOEY'S BRUTAL PATH THROUGH WAR

 

AND THE MAJESTIC ANIMAL'S

 

ENDURANCE IN A LANDSCAPE

 

OF HORROR.

 

ANDREW VEENSTRA PLAYS ALBERT.

 

>> ANDREW VEENSTRA: I DEFINITELY

 

THINK IT'S AN ANTHEM OF PEACE.

 

YOU LOOK AT THE ATROCITIES

 

THAT WERE COMMITTED

 

AND WHY THEY WERE COMMITTED

 

AND YOU'RE LEFT QUESTIONING

 

WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT

 

AND WHY IT'S THERE.

 

>> JARED: THE EMOTIONAL

 

HEFT OF THE SHOW COMES

 

FROM THE HORSES LIFE-SIZED

 

PUPPETS CREATED BY

 

THE HANDSPRING PUPPET COMPANY

 

WHICH RECEIVED A SPECIAL

 

TONY AWARD FOR THE EFFORT.

 

IT'S AT THE BOSTON OPERA HOUSE

 

WHERE JOEY TROTTED IN TO MEET

 

US.

 

>> VEENSTRA: THIS IS JOEY.

 

HE'LL GET TO KNOW YOU.

 

HE'LL SMELL YOU.

 

YOU JUST REACH OUT.

 

HE'S NO DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER

 

HORSE.

 

HE'LL GIVE YOU A LOT OF PRESSURE

 

ON YOUR HAND.

 

>> JARED: THIS IS REMARKABLE.

 

I'M SOMEONE WHO GREW UP

 

RIDING HORSES,

 

I RIDE EVERY SUMMER

 

AND THEY HAVE THE MANNERISMS

 

EXACTLY DOWN.

 

THIS IS A HORSE!

 

>> VEENSTRA: YEAH ABSOLUTELY.

 

>> JARED: JOEY IS AN ELABORATE

 

CREATION HANDMADE BY OVER

 

A DOZEN PEOPLE,

 

HE IS 120 POUNDS,

 

ROUGHLY TEN FEET LONG

 

AND EIGHT FEET TALL.

 

HE IS FRAMED IN CANE

 

AND ALUMINUM.

 

LEATHER DRAPES HIS BACK

 

AND A HOSIERY-LIKE FABRIC

 

COMPRISES HIS SKIN.

 

BUT HE IS IMBUED WITH LIFE.

 

>> VEENSTRA: "THE LUNGS

 

OF THE HORSE ARE ABOUT

 

THREE TIMES THE SIZE

 

OF HUMAN BEINGS LUNGS.

 

SO TO GET THE SOUND PRODUCED,

 

THE EXHALES, INHALES,

 

IT TAKES THREE PEOPLE TO CREATE

 

THAT.

 

AND ALL THREE OF THEM CREATE

 

THE HORSE SOUNDS AND EVERYTHING

 

INVOLVING THE HORSE.

 

>> JARED: THE THREE ACTORS SLASH

 

PUPPETEERS INHABITING JOEY

 

SERVE AS THE HEAD,

 

HEART AND HIND MANIPULATING

 

THE HORSE THROUGH A SERIES

 

OF LEVERS CONTROLLING 20 JOINTS.

 

>> BRIAN ROBERT BURNS: "WE ALL

 

INFORM EACH OTHER.

 

THE HIND THAT IS THE ENGINE

 

OF THE BODY AND THE HEAD BEING

 

THE THOUGHT OF THAT ANIMAL,

 

THE BREATH AND THE ENGINE

 

AND THE MIND ALL WORK TOGETHER

 

AND YOU KNOW CREATE THIS REALLY

 

BEAUTIFUL ORGANISM."

 

>> JARED: AND IT'S A PROCESS

 

THAT HAS BECOME ORGANIC SAY

 

THE ACTORS.

 

WHILE THEY HAVE BASIC

 

CHOREOGRAPHY ON STAGE

 

TELLING THEM WHERE TO BE

 

AND WHEN,

 

THEY'RE OTHERWISE GIVEN FREE

 

REIGN.

 

>> DANNY YOERGES: "AS WE GET

 

FURTHER INTO THIS TOUR WE START

 

TO REALLY FLESH OUT THESE REALLY

 

TINY DETAILS OF WHAT THE HORSE

 

IS THINKING.

 

AND THEY SURPRISE US WHEN

 

WE'RE ON STAGE.

 

THAT'S THE EXCITING THING."

 

>> JESSICA KRUEGER: "I HAVE

 

A TERRIBLE HABIT

 

OF SEEING SOMETHING,

 

STEALING IT,

 

PUTTING IT IN THE SHOW

 

LIKE RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT TELLING

 

ANYBODY I'LL SEE THINGS

 

ON YOUTUBE, IN A LIVE HORSE,

 

ANYTHING AND I'LL JUST

 

AHHH I'LL FIND A PLACE

 

TO PUT IT AND I WILL.

 

MAYBE IT WORKS,

 

MAYBE IT DOESN'T."

 

>> JARED: FOR VEENSTRA THERE

 

IS LITTLE QUESTION.

 

>> VEENSTRA: "JOEY IS NEVER

 

ANYTHING BUT JOEY TO US

 

IN THE CAST.

 

I FORGET QUITE HONESTLY

 

PROBABLY QUICKER THAN

 

THE AUDIENCE DOES WHICH

 

IS PRETTY QUICK THAT IT'S EVEN

 

OPERATED BY PEOPLE.

 

YOU JUST IMMEDIATELY ARE FEELING

 

FOR THIS ANIMAL.

 

>> JARED: WHICH MAKES WAR HORSE

 

AN UNBRIDLED SUCCESS.

 

>> KWAME: FILMMAKER

 

STEVEN SPIELBERG ADAPTED

 

THE PLAY INTO A FILM,

 

WHICH WAS NOMINATED

 

FOR EIGHT ACADEMY AWARDS

 

IN 2012.

 

NOW,

 

OUR NEXT ARTIST'S WORK

 

IS ALL ABOUT TRANSFORMATION.

 

THE CELEBRATED

 

WEST AFRICAN ARTIST,

 

EL ANATSUI,

 

USES FOUND MATERIALS

 

SUCH AS CONDENSED MILK TINS

 

AND ALUMINUM BOTTLE CAPS.

 

THIS ARTIST DRAWS

 

ON THE AESTHETIC TRADITIONS

 

OF HIS NATIVE COUNTRY AS WELL

 

AS WESTERN INFLUENCES.

 

HIS 40 YEAR RETROSPECTIVE,

 

RECENTLY AT THE DENVER ART

 

MUSEUM,

 

REVEALS EL ANATSUI'S

 

CREATIVE PROCESS AND GLOBAL

 

APPROACH TO ART.

 

>> EL ANATSUI: I THINK ART

 

SHOULD ALLOW US TO QUESTION

 

OUR OWN EXPERIENCES

 

AND CHALLENGE US TO WANT TO KNOW

 

MORE ABOUT OTHERS.

 

SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WORK

 

OF EL ANATSUI IT'S VERY EASY

 

TO DO THAT.

 

YOU COME TO HIS WORK AND YOU SEE

 

THAT CLEARY IT'S SOMETHING

 

FROM AFRICA OR FROM A PLACE

 

THAT YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH

 

AND IT MAKES YOU QUESTION

 

YOURSELF AND YOUR PLACE

 

IN THE WORLD AND YOUR

 

RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER SPACES.

 

>> THIS IS A RETROSPECTIVE

 

OF HIS 40 YEAR CAREER.

 

>> EL ANATSUI: SEEING 40 YEARS

 

OF MY WORK AND BROUGHT TOGETHER

 

UNDER ONE ROOF IS HUMBLING,

 

GIVES ME A FEELING

 

OF EXHILARATION.

 

IT'S LIKE HAVING A REUNION

 

OF PEOPLE I'VE MET SO MANY YEARS

 

BACK.

 

YOU GO TO SOME OF THE EARLIER

 

WORKS AND IT GIVES YOU THE SENSE

 

THAT YOU ACTUALLY DIDN'T TAKE

 

A BIG LEAP BUT THAT WHAT YOU

 

WERE DOING WAS TAKING LITTLE

 

STEPS TO GET TO THIS STAGE.

 

>> NANCY BLOMBERG: THIS IS AN

 

EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITY

 

FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY LOOK

 

AT AN ARTIST.

 

HOW HE HAS CHANGED.

 

HOW HIS IDEAS HAVE CHANGED

 

OVER TIME AND YOU DON'T OFTEN

 

SEE THAT.

 

>> LISA BINDER: EL IS A VERY

 

QUIET MAN,

 

VERY PRIVATE PERSON BUT SOMEONE

 

WHO LOVES TO ENGAGE

 

WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT HE MEETS

 

ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HE LOVES

 

TO ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE ABOUT ART.

 

>> NANCY: WELL,

 

HE IS CERTAINLY

 

AN INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN ARTIST.

 

HE WAS PRETTY WELL KNOWN

 

IN AFRICA FOR THE FIRST 30 YEARS

 

AND KNOWN IN EUROPE AS WELL.

 

>> LISA: HE REMAINS

 

VERY IMPORTANT IN AFRICA

 

SPECIFICALLY WEST AFRICA.

 

HE'S FROM GHANA BUT HAS LIVED

 

AND WORKED IN NIGERIA SINCE 1975

 

AND IS VERY WELL-KNOWN THERE.

 

>> NANCY: BUT,

 

HE REALLY BURST

 

ONTO THE INTERNATIONAL SCENE

 

IN ABOUT 2007 WHEN HE BEGAN

 

CREATING A SERIES OF THESE

 

METAL WALL SCULPTURES.

 

>> AMANDA THOMPSON: FOR ME

 

THE AMAZING THING ABOUT

 

EL ANATSUI'S WORK

 

IS THAT IT IS SO ACCESSIBLE.

 

DESIGN PEOPLE CAN ENGAGE

 

WITH IT,

 

CRAFTS PEOPLE CAN ENGAGE

 

WITH IT,

 

PAINTERS CAN ENGAGE WITH IT

 

AND THE BACK STORY OF IT,

 

THE USE OF RECYCLED,

 

REUSED BOTTLE CAPS IT'S

 

SO VERY CURRENT TO ISSUES

 

GOING ON IN THE WORLD

 

AND THE STORY IS INTIMATE

 

TO THE HISTORY OF WEST AFRICA

 

AS WELL.

 

>> EL ANATSUI: THERE CAME

 

A TIME WHEN I DEVELOPED

 

THE AFFINITY FOR ONLY MATERIAL

 

THAT HAS SEEN SOME USE,

 

THAT HAD HAD SOME CONTACT

 

WITH PEOPLE.

 

I FIND THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING

 

RICH ABOUT THEM.

 

MAYBE SOMETHING PSYCHIC

 

OR SPIRITUAL IT'S KIND

 

OF BUILDS A BOND BETWEEN ME

 

AND ANYBODY WHO HAS HAD REACTION

 

WITH THE OBJECT.

 

>> LISA: HIS WORK IS MADE

 

OF THE THINGS OF LIFE.

 

OF THE THINGS THAT WE EXPERIENCE

 

IN OUR EVERY DAY WORLD

 

AND SO WE ARE ABLE TO COME

 

TO IT WITH OUR OWN EXPERIENCES

 

AND SAY OK I UNDERSTAND

 

THAT THAT'S SOME THING

 

THAT IS IN MY WORLD TOO.

 

>> EL: I LIKE THE IDEA

 

OF PICKING COMMONPLACE THINGS

 

AND GIVING THEM A NEW LEASE

 

OF LIFE.

 

MOST OF THE TIME THE MEDIA

 

I WORKED WITH CAME

 

INADVERTENTLY.

 

IT HAS TO ANNOUNCE ITSELF

 

OR BRING ITSELF

 

IN SURREPTITIOUSLY.

 

>> NANCY: EL USES

 

VERY ORDINARY MATERIALS

 

TO CREATE INCREDIBLE WORKS

 

OF ART.

 

HE USES THESE PIECES

 

IN INSTALLATIONS OR IN SINGLE

 

WORKS TO TELL VERY PERSONAL

 

STORIES.

 

SOMETIMES HIS OWN PERSONAL

 

STORIES AND OTHER TIMES

 

TO TELL UNIVERSAL STORIES

 

OR STORIES ABOUT AFRICAN

 

HISTORY.

 

>> EL: ALMOST ALL THE WORK

 

I'VE DONE,

 

ALL THE PHASES

 

THAT I'VE PASSED THROUGH,

 

COULD BE LINKED ONE WAY

 

OR ANOTHER WITH HISTORY.

 

NOT THAT I WAS TRYING

 

TO RECOUNT HISTORY BUT WAS KIND

 

OF LOOKING AT HISTORY

 

AS SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS

 

BACK TO ME.

 

>> AMANDA THOMPSON: THIS IS MY

 

5TH TIME INSTALLING THIS

 

EXHIBITION.

 

SO IT'S WONDERFUL FOR ME

 

TO SEET INSTALLED

 

IN A DIFFERENT SPACE EACH TIME

 

BECAUSE THE PIECES TAKE ON

 

A WHOLE NEW LIFE.

 

THE DENVER ART MUSEUM IS

 

GOING TO BE FANTASTIC

 

BECAUSE OF ALL THE ANGLES.

 

>> LISA: THE LIBESKIND BUILDING

 

IS PERFECT FOR AN ARTIST

 

SUCH AS EL WHO MAKES WORKS

 

SPECIFICALLY TO ADAPT

 

TO THE ENVIRONMENT

 

IN WHICH IT IS DISPLAYED.

 

IT CAN BE,

 

IT'S MEANT TO BE,

 

DIFFERENT EVERY TIME

 

IT'S INSTALLED.

 

>> NANCY: OUR WALLS

 

ARE CHALLENGING THEY SLANT

 

OUTWARD.

 

AND SO,

 

HOW DO YOU HANG THEM

 

BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE HUNG FLAT

 

ON THE WALL?

 

SO,

 

WE WORKED WITH FORKLIFTS.

 

WE WORK WITH TEAMS OF PEOPLE

 

TO SHAPE THEM.

 

AND THAT'S WHAT I GET TO DO.

 

SO,

 

I HAVE SOMEONE IN THE BACK

 

AND I'M IN THE FRONT

 

AND I'M LITERALLY LIFTING UP

 

THE PIECES AND SAYING OKAY,

 

LET'S PUT A HOOK HERE

 

AND THEN I'LL STEP BACK

 

AND SAY UM,

 

THAT DOESN'T WORK.

 

TAKE THAT OUT.

 

SO,

 

IT'S A PROCESS THAT YOU WORK ON

 

FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS

 

TO SHAPE EACH OF THESE PIECES.

 

AND,

 

IT IS GREAT FUN

 

BECAUSE I GET TO CREATE

 

ALONG WITH THE ARTIST.

 

IT IS A COMPLETE JOY TO HANG

 

HIS WORKS.

 

WHETHER THEY ARE HANGING,

 

WHETHER THEY ARE ON PLATFORMS,

 

THERE'S NO ONE RIGHT WAY

 

TO DO IT.

 

MOST ARTISTS HAVE

 

A PARTICULAR WAY THAT THEY LIKE

 

THE PIECE TO BE SEEN,

 

THEY CREATE IT IN A CERTAIN WAY

 

AND THEY LIKE IT PRESENTED

 

IN A CERTAIN WAY.

 

AND EL ENCOURAGES EVERYONE

 

TO SHAPE THE PIECES

 

AS THEY SEE FIT

 

FOR THEIR SPACES.

 

I THINK ART SHOULD INSPIRE YOU.

 

YOU CAN WALK THROUGH HERE

 

AND SEE A JUST

 

A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BEAUTY.

 

I THINK IT SHOULD TELL STORIES,

 

I THINK IT SHOULD MATTER TO YOU.

 

>> RHEA: EL ANATSUI'S WORK

 

HAS BEEN SEEN THROUGHOUT

 

THE WORLD.

 

AND NOW,

 

HERE'S THIS WEEK

 

IN ARTS HISTORY.

 

IN HIS OWN TIME,

 

ARTIST ANDY WARHOL PUSHED

 

THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT DEFINED

 

ART,

 

CHALLENGING EXPECTATIONS

 

WITH HIS PORTRAYALS

 

OF POPULAR CULTURE.

 

IN THE RECENT EXHIBITION,

 

CALLED "REGARDING WARHOL

 

SIXTY ARTISTS, FIFTY YEARS"

 

AT THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM

 

OF ART IN NEW YORK CITY,

 

THE WORKS OF WARHOL WERE SHOWN

 

FOR THE FIRST TIME

 

JUXTAPOSED WITH THE ARTISTS

 

THAT REINTERPRETED

 

HIS GROUNDBREAKING WORK.

 

>> MARK ROSENTHAL:

 

THE EXHIBITION IS MEANT

 

TO BE A LOOK AT WARHOL

 

AND HIS IMPACT

 

ON CONTEMPORARY ART

 

OF THE LAST 50 YEARS.

 

WARHOL WAS WILLING TO EMBRACE

 

ANYTHING.

 

AND THAT'S THE WARHOL EFFECT.

 

>> MARLA PRATHER: WELL IT'S

 

A VERY LARGE SHOW SO THERE

 

ARE 157 WORKS TOTAL

 

AND 51 OF THOSE ARE BY WARHOL.

 

>> MARK: IN EACH GROUPING

 

OF WORKS THERE'LL BE A WARHOL,

 

OR MAYBE 2 WARHOLS,

 

AND A GROUP OF WORKS BY OTHER

 

ARTISTS.

 

EACH GROUPING IS MEANT

 

TO INTRODUCE OTHER APPROACHES

 

TO WHAT WARHOL SET OUT.

 

>> MARLA: THE FIRST SECTION

 

IS A VERY LARGE SECTION

 

CALLED "DAILY NEWS

 

FROM BANALITY TO DISASTER"

 

HE WAS CONSTANTLY LOOKING

 

AT CURRENT EVENTS AND LOOKING

 

TO NEWSPAPERS, TO MAGAZINES.

 

>> MARK: WARHOL'S SOURCES

 

WERE SO OFTEN THE MOST BANAL

 

OF SUBJECTS.

 

BUT ALSO FROM THE DAILY NEWS

 

HE TOOK DISASTERS,

 

AND HE WOULD MAKE PAINTINGS

 

BASED ON THAT.

 

>> MARLA: SO THEN THAT SECTION

 

MOVES INTO AN AREA THAT HAS

 

TO DO WITH AMERICAN CONSUMERISM,

 

WITH LOGOS,

 

AND HOW OTHER ARTISTS LIKE

 

AI WEI WEI HAVE APPROPRIATED

 

THOSE IMAGES.

 

>> MARK: FOR ME ONE

 

OF THE EXCITING THINGS ABOUT

 

THE SHOW IS TO SEE WARHOL

 

JUXTAPOSED,

 

FOR EXAMPLE AN ARTIST

 

NAMED HANS HAACKE,

 

AND HE CARRIES THE WARHOL

 

EXAMPLE INTO VERY POLITICAL

 

DIMENSIONS.

 

SO HERE HE'S USING THE LOOK

 

OF PACKAGING,

 

LIKE WARHOL'S SOUP CAN,

 

TO THEN MAKE

 

A POLITICAL STATEMENT

 

ABOUT WHERE CIGARETTES ARE MADE,

 

AND THE SENATOR JESSE HELMS.

 

THERE'S LOTS OF SURPRISES

 

LIKE THAT WHERE ARTISTS

 

CAN CARRY THE WARHOL EXAMPLE.

 

>> MARLA: ANOTHER VERY LARGE

 

SECTION IS THE PORTRAITURE

 

SECTION.

 

WE CALL IT CELEBRITY AND POWER.

 

FOR ME THE 1964 TURQUOISE

 

MARILYN,

 

IS SUCH AN ICONIC IMAGE

 

AND IS SO,

 

BEAUTIFUL TO BEGIN WITH,

 

IT'S ABSOLUTELY ELECTRIC

 

IN TERMS OF ITS TURQUOISE

 

COLORATION.

 

I LOVE THE FACT THAT MARILYN

 

SAID THAT MARILYN WAS THE VEIL

 

THAT SHE WORE OVER NORMA JEAN,

 

AND I THINK THAT WARHOL REALLY

 

SORT OF UNDERSTOOD

 

THAT THERE WAS SOME OTHER

 

HUMAN BEING BENEATH THIS SURFACE

 

OF ALL OF THIS BLONDE HAIR

 

AND COLOR.

 

>> MARK: IN 1960 IN NEW YORK

 

THERE WERE ALMOST NO PEOPLE

 

MAKING PORTRAITS.

 

WE HAVE WARHOL'S "DIAMOND DUST

 

PORTRAIT OF JOSEPH BEUYS"

 

TO EXEMPLIFY WARHOL CELEBRATING

 

ARTISTS.

 

SO BEHIND ME IS A FAMOUS

 

PORTRAIT BY CHUCK CLOSE

 

OF THE MUSICIAN PHIL GLASS.

 

THERE'S ALSO A PHOTOGRAPH

 

RICHARD AVEDON MADE

 

OF TRUMAN CAPOTE.

 

THERE'S A PAINTING BY ALEX KATZ

 

OF THE POET TED BERRIGAN,

 

SO THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE

 

OF HOW WITH WARHOL AS AN EXAMPLE

 

THINGS EXPAND OUT

 

AND BECOME VERY EXCITING.

 

>> MARLA: THERE'S ANOTHER

 

SECTION CALLED "QUEER STUDIES,"

 

WHICH IS REALLY

 

ABOUT SHIFTING IDENTITIES,

 

ASSUMED PERSONALITIES,

 

THE IDEA THAT IDENTITY,

 

ESPECIALLY SEXUAL IDENTITY,

 

IS SOMETHING

 

THAT CAN BE ALTERED,

 

CAN BE USED IN A KIND OF FLUID

 

AND SHIFTING AND CHANGING WAY.

 

AND THEN THE LAST SECTIONS

 

ARE REALLY MORE ABOUT

 

WARHOL-IAN TECHNIQUES,

 

THERE'S A SECTION CALLED

 

"CONSUMING IMAGES" ABOUT

 

ABSTRACTION,

 

SERIALITY AND REPETITION.

 

AND IT BEGINS WITH A WONDERFUL

 

IMAGE OF THE "MONA LISA."

 

SO THE REST OF THE GALLERY

 

IS IN PART ABOUT HOW OTHER

 

ARTISTS HAVE ABSORBED

 

THIS APPROPRIATION TECHNIQUE.

 

AND THEN THERE IS A SECTION

 

CALLED "NO BOUNDARIES,"

 

AND IT REALLY HAS TO DO

 

WITH THIS WONDERFUL KIND

 

OF EXPLOSION OF THE WHOLE

 

WARHOL-IAN PHENOMENON,

 

AND THE IDEA THAT ART

 

REALLY CAN BE ANYTHING.

 

>> MARK: ONE OF THE INTERESTING

 

THINGS ABOUT DOING

 

THIS EXHIBITION,

 

WAS TO THINK ABOUT HOW ALIVE

 

THE LEGACY IS RIGHT NOW.

 

RYAN TRECARTIN IS A FILMMAKER.

 

IF YOU COMPARE THEM

 

TO THE ANDY WARHOL FILMS

 

YOU QUICKLY REALIZE THAT

 

RYAN TRECARTIN IS A DESCENDANT

 

OF ANDY WARHOL,

 

A SHOW OF HIS WORK OPENED

 

A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO

 

AND WAS MET BY UNBELIEVABLE

 

PRAISE.

 

IF A CONTEMPORARY ARTIST

 

IS STILL MOVED BY ANDY WARHOL

 

AND THAT ARTIST HAPPENS

 

TO BE SO CELEBRATED,

 

THEN THE WARHOL EFFECT IS STILL

 

WITH US.

 

>> MARLA: OUR IDEA ABOUT

 

THE EXHIBITION WAS NOT SIMPLY

 

AN IDEA OF DIRECT INFLUENCE,

 

BUT THE IMPACT THROUGH

 

THE CULTURE OF WARHOL.

 

BUT ALSO NOT WITH THE IDEA

 

THAT THIS IS THE DEFINITIVE

 

SHOW.

 

IT SHOULD GET PEOPLE TALKING.

 

I WOULD HOPE THAT PEOPLE THINK

 

ABOUT WHERE WARHOL'S IMPACT

 

GOES BEYOND THE GALLERIES,

 

AND TO HAVE A KIND OF HEIGHTENED

 

AWARENESS,

 

WHEN THEY NEXT GO TO GALLERIES

 

OR TO A DEPARTMENT STORE

 

OR FLIP THROUGH A MAGAZINE

 

OR SURF THE WEB,

 

AND HOW WARHOL WILL SEEM

 

VERY EVER PRESENT.

 

>> RHEA: AFTER WARHOL'S

 

UNEXPECTED DEATH IN 1987,

 

A FOUNDATION WAS SET UP

 

IN HIS NAME TO ADVANCE

 

THE VISUAL ARTS.

 

FOR MORE INFORMATION VISIT

 

WARHOLFOUNDATION.ORG.

 

>> KWAME: THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT,

 

BUT TUNE IN NEXT WEEK

 

FOR MORE ARTIST PROFILES.

 

I'M KWAME KWEI-ARMAH.

 

>> AND I'M RHEA FEIKIN.

 

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