WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.974 >>> A NEW YEAR AND A NEW U.S. SENATOR FOR ARIZONA. 00:08.976 --> 00:09.675 SENATOR FOR ARIZONA. REPUBLICAN JEFF FLECK. 00:09.677 --> 00:12.144 REPUBLICAN JEFF FLECK. >> THE RULES ARE SET UP THE 00:12.146 --> 00:14.613 >> THE RULES ARE SET UP THE MAJORITY AND THE SENATE, THEY'RE 00:14.615 --> 00:18.350 MAJORITY AND THE SENATE, THEY'RE SET UP TO PROTECT THE 00:18.352 --> 00:18.751 SET UP TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUAL. 00:18.753 --> 00:22.454 INDIVIDUAL. >> FLECK AND HIS COLLEAGUES FACE 00:22.456 --> 00:24.523 >> FLECK AND HIS COLLEAGUES FACE THE SAME ISSUES THAT BEDEVILLED 00:24.525 --> 00:26.925 THE SAME ISSUES THAT BEDEVILLED THE LAST LONG. 00:26.927 --> 00:28.360 THE LAST LONG. INCLUDING IMMIGRATION REFORM. 00:28.362 --> 00:30.763 INCLUDING IMMIGRATION REFORM. >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEPORT 00:30.765 --> 00:35.634 >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEPORT THEM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO 00:35.636 --> 00:36.035 THEM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SELF-DEPORT. 00:36.037 --> 00:38.604 SELF-DEPORT. >> TONIGHT GETTING TO KNOW 00:38.606 --> 00:46.145 >> TONIGHT GETTING TO KNOW SKBREF FLAKE AND TO GET A CHANCE 00:46.147 --> 01:09.201 SKBREF FLAKE AND TO GET A CHANCE TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS. 01:09.203 --> 01:12.104 TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS. >>> JEFF FLAKE WAS SWORN IN AS 01:12.106 --> 01:13.205 >>> JEFF FLAKE WAS SWORN IN AS ARIZONA'S JUNIOR SENATOR THREE 01:13.207 --> 01:14.573 ARIZONA'S JUNIOR SENATOR THREE WEEKS AGO. 01:14.575 --> 01:16.375 WEEKS AGO. HE SPOKE WITH US FROM THE HOUSE 01:16.377 --> 01:17.609 HE SPOKE WITH US FROM THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE 01:17.611 --> 01:19.778 OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE ISSUES THAT HE AND HIS 01:19.780 --> 01:21.013 ISSUES THAT HE AND HIS COLLEAGUES FACE. 01:21.015 --> 01:23.215 COLLEAGUES FACE. WE'LL START WITH IMGLAIGS. 01:23.217 --> 01:24.750 WE'LL START WITH IMGLAIGS. WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN REGARD 01:24.752 --> 01:27.119 WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN REGARD TO IMMIGRATION REFORM IN THE 01:27.121 --> 01:27.453 TO IMMIGRATION REFORM IN THE COUNTRY? 01:27.455 --> 01:29.488 COUNTRY? >> WELL, FOUR BIG THINGS. 01:29.490 --> 01:31.790 >> WELL, FOUR BIG THINGS. ONE INCREASED MOTOR SECURITY. 01:31.792 --> 01:34.593 ONE INCREASED MOTOR SECURITY. THE NICE THING IN ARIZONA IS 01:34.595 --> 01:36.295 THE NICE THING IN ARIZONA IS THAT WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE 01:36.297 --> 01:38.397 THAT WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE IT WORKS AND KIND OF AN EXAMPLE 01:38.399 --> 01:42.534 IT WORKS AND KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE AND 01:42.536 --> 01:45.471 OF WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE AND THAT'S THE TUCSON SECTOR. 01:45.473 --> 01:49.174 THAT'S THE TUCSON SECTOR. WE HAVE 270 MILES OF BORDER. 01:49.176 --> 01:52.578 WE HAVE 270 MILES OF BORDER. THEN WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A 01:52.580 --> 01:54.813 THEN WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A ROBUST TEMPORARY WORKER PROGRAM 01:54.815 --> 01:55.881 ROBUST TEMPORARY WORKER PROGRAM GOING AHEAD. 01:55.883 --> 01:57.983 GOING AHEAD. THE FUTURE LABOR NEEDS, WE'RE 01:57.985 --> 01:59.952 THE FUTURE LABOR NEEDS, WE'RE SFOG TO NEED ADDITIONAL LABOR 01:59.954 --> 02:02.588 SFOG TO NEED ADDITIONAL LABOR AND THAT OUGHT TO BE TAKEN CARE 02:02.590 --> 02:05.491 AND THAT OUGHT TO BE TAKEN CARE OF WITH A TEMPORARY WORKER PLAN. 02:05.493 --> 02:09.528 OF WITH A TEMPORARY WORKER PLAN. THIRD, WE NEED INTERIOR 02:09.530 --> 02:12.364 THIRD, WE NEED INTERIOR ENFORCEMENT, ON THE EMPLOYER 02:12.366 --> 02:16.001 ENFORCEMENT, ON THE EMPLOYER SIDE, WHETHER IT'S E VERY NI OR 02:16.003 --> 02:16.869 SIDE, WHETHER IT'S E VERY NI OR SOMETHING ELSE. 02:16.871 --> 02:20.506 SOMETHING ELSE. FOU, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A 02:20.508 --> 02:22.908 FOU, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A MECHANISM TO DEAL WITH THOSE WHO 02:22.910 --> 02:25.077 MECHANISM TO DEAL WITH THOSE WHO ARE HERE IN THE AREA ELLIELY 02:25.079 --> 02:27.112 ARE HERE IN THE AREA ELLIELY NOW. 02:27.114 --> 02:28.981 NOW. THEY'RE GOING TO SELF DEPORT. 02:28.983 --> 02:32.084 THEY'RE GOING TO SELF DEPORT. WE NEED A REASONABLE, 02:32.086 --> 02:33.452 WE NEED A REASONABLE, RESPONSIBLE MECHANISM FOR THEM 02:33.454 --> 02:35.487 RESPONSIBLE MECHANISM FOR THEM TO DO IT. 02:35.489 --> 02:39.124 TO DO IT. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE 02:39.126 --> 02:41.226 I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE AMNESTY, IT SHOULDN'T. 02:41.228 --> 02:43.562 AMNESTY, IT SHOULDN'T. BUT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT 02:43.564 --> 02:44.296 BUT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE THAT ARE HERE ARE NOT 02:44.298 --> 02:46.865 THOSE THAT ARE HERE ARE NOT GOING TO SELF-DEPORT. 02:46.867 --> 02:51.069 GOING TO SELF-DEPORT. >> WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE BE 02:51.071 --> 02:52.704 >> WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE BE DONE ABOUT THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE? 02:52.706 --> 02:55.374 DONE ABOUT THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE? >> I THINK THE BEST FRAME WORK 02:55.376 --> 03:00.379 >> I THINK THE BEST FRAME WORK SO FAR IS THE TRY VAC, THAT SAYS 03:00.381 --> 03:02.381 SO FAR IS THE TRY VAC, THAT SAYS IF YOU AIR HERE ILL LEGALLY AND 03:02.383 --> 03:06.485 IF YOU AIR HERE ILL LEGALLY AND YOU WISH TO STAY IN A TEMPORARY 03:06.487 --> 03:09.188 YOU WISH TO STAY IN A TEMPORARY WORKER STATUS, YOU LEARN 03:09.190 --> 03:11.757 WORKER STATUS, YOU LEARN ENGLISH, YOU PAY BACK TAXES, YOU 03:11.759 --> 03:13.425 ENGLISH, YOU PAY BACK TAXES, YOU JUMP THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS, 03:13.427 --> 03:14.826 JUMP THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS, ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY CRIMINAL 03:14.828 --> 03:17.429 ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY CRIMINAL RECORD WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO 03:17.431 --> 03:18.697 RECORD WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THIS PROGRAM. 03:18.699 --> 03:20.399 ENTER THIS PROGRAM. BUT IF THEY WISH LATER, TO 03:20.401 --> 03:22.601 BUT IF THEY WISH LATER, TO ADJUST THEIR STATUS AND PERHAPS 03:22.603 --> 03:24.836 ADJUST THEIR STATUS AND PERHAPS GO TOWARD CITIZENSHIP, THEY 03:24.838 --> 03:26.572 GO TOWARD CITIZENSHIP, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 03:26.574 --> 03:29.508 WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL EVERYBODY WHO'S IN THE LINE 03:29.510 --> 03:32.110 EVERYBODY WHO'S IN THE LINE GOING THROUGH THE LEGAL ORDERLY 03:32.112 --> 03:36.548 GOING THROUGH THE LEGAL ORDERLY PROCESS, THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT 03:36.550 --> 03:37.416 PROCESS, THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT THROUGH IT. 03:37.418 --> 03:40.786 THROUGH IT. THAT TO ME IS WHAT DEFINED 03:40.788 --> 03:43.322 THAT TO ME IS WHAT DEFINED AMNESTY, THOSE WHO CUT IN THE 03:43.324 --> 03:45.023 AMNESTY, THOSE WHO CUT IN THE LINE AHEAD OF THOSE WHO ARE 03:45.025 --> 03:46.525 LINE AHEAD OF THOSE WHO ARE LEGALLY GOING THROUGH THE 03:46.527 --> 03:46.858 LEGALLY GOING THROUGH THE PROSETZ. 03:46.860 --> 03:48.727 PROSETZ. >> YOU SAID THAT THE 34RI8 03:48.729 --> 03:50.195 >> YOU SAID THAT THE 34RI8 REALITY IN IMMIGRATION REFORM 03:50.197 --> 03:50.996 REALITY IN IMMIGRATION REFORM WAS THAT BORDER SECURITY HAD TO 03:50.998 --> 03:53.832 WAS THAT BORDER SECURITY HAD TO COME FIRST. 03:53.834 --> 03:56.101 COME FIRST. DO WE HAVE A NEW POLITICAL 03:56.103 --> 03:58.570 DO WE HAVE A NEW POLITICAL REALITY NOW BASED ON THE NEW 03:58.572 --> 03:59.304 REALITY NOW BASED ON THE NEW POLITICAL OUTCOME. 03:59.306 --> 04:01.306 POLITICAL OUTCOME. >> I THINK REPUBLICANS, 04:01.308 --> 04:02.641 >> I THINK REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, EVERYBODY, REALIZES 04:02.643 --> 04:06.478 DEMOCRATS, EVERYBODY, REALIZES THAT WHICH KNEED TO DEAL WITH 04:06.480 --> 04:08.347 THAT WHICH KNEED TO DEAL WITH THIS, BOTH FOR SUBSTANTIVE AND 04:08.349 --> 04:10.616 THIS, BOTH FOR SUBSTANTIVE AND POLITICAL REASONS. 04:10.618 --> 04:14.553 POLITICAL REASONS. ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE I THINK 04:14.555 --> 04:15.954 ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE I THINK THERE IT'S A REAL REASON THAT WE 04:15.956 --> 04:17.990 THERE IT'S A REAL REASON THAT WE CAN'T TAKE THE EGG POSITION THAT 04:17.992 --> 04:20.125 CAN'T TAKE THE EGG POSITION THAT WE HAVE TAKEN IN THE PAST. 04:20.127 --> 04:21.860 WE HAVE TAKEN IN THE PAST. BOARDER SECURITY NEEDS TO BE 04:21.862 --> 04:23.996 BOARDER SECURITY NEEDS TO BE PARAMOUNT, I THINK THAT IT WILL 04:23.998 --> 04:28.433 PARAMOUNT, I THINK THAT IT WILL BE, IT HAS TO BE IN ANY SOLUTION 04:28.435 --> 04:28.734 BE, IT HAS TO BE IN ANY SOLUTION HERE. 04:28.736 --> 04:29.701 HERE. IN ORDER TO MOVE AHEAD WITH SOME 04:29.703 --> 04:35.674 IN ORDER TO MOVE AHEAD WITH SOME OF THE ITEMS I TALKED ABOUT IN 04:35.676 --> 04:36.808 OF THE ITEMS I TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH THOSE WHO 04:36.810 --> 04:39.177 TERMS OF DEALING WITH THOSE WHO ARE HERE EMOTIONALLY. 04:39.179 --> 04:40.612 ARE HERE EMOTIONALLY. THE BORDER IS CHANGED OVER THE 04:40.614 --> 04:43.849 THE BORDER IS CHANGED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 04:43.851 --> 04:46.385 LAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY OF 04:46.387 --> 04:48.754 AND, YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY OF THOSE WHO HOLD PROPERTY NEAR AND 04:48.756 --> 04:53.759 THOSE WHO HOLD PROPERTY NEAR AND ON THE BORDER, THAT HAS TO BE 04:53.761 --> 04:57.429 ON THE BORDER, THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONTRACT. 04:57.431 --> 04:58.697 TAKEN INTO CONTRACT. I THINK WE CAN DO ALL THAT AND 04:58.699 --> 05:05.070 I THINK WE CAN DO ALL THAT AND THE FACT THAT WE HA--? 05:05.072 --> 05:07.472 THE FACT THAT WE HA--? HOW CAN THEY GET FROM ENFRENCHED 05:07.474 --> 05:09.207 HOW CAN THEY GET FROM ENFRENCHED POSITIONS TO SOLUTIONS? 05:09.209 --> 05:19.718 POSITIONS TO SOLUTIONS? I SPOKE WITH JUDITH GANS. 05:19.720 --> 05:22.387 I SPOKE WITH JUDITH GANS. THANKTS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH 05:22.389 --> 05:22.788 THANKTS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH ME. 05:22.790 --> 05:25.023 ME. FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, 05:25.025 --> 05:26.591 FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, RATHER THAN A POLITICAL 05:26.593 --> 05:28.527 RATHER THAN A POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE, WHAT NEEDS TO 05:28.529 --> 05:30.362 PERSPECTIVE, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO GET UP TO IMMIGRATION 05:30.364 --> 05:30.696 HAPPEN TO GET UP TO IMMIGRATION REFORM? 05:30.698 --> 05:32.964 REFORM? >> THE BIGGEST THING THAT NEEDS 05:32.966 --> 05:38.303 >> THE BIGGEST THING THAT NEEDS HAPPEN IS TO BRING THE LEGAL -- 05:38.305 --> 05:40.339 HAPPEN IS TO BRING THE LEGAL -- OTHER CURRENT SYSTEM WAS PUT IN 05:40.341 --> 05:44.242 OTHER CURRENT SYSTEM WAS PUT IN PLAITS IN THE MID 1960s AND IT'S 05:44.244 --> 05:48.380 PLAITS IN THE MID 1960s AND IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY OUT OF ALIGNMENT 05:48.382 --> 05:49.948 FUNDAMENTALLY OUT OF ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT U.S. ECONOMY. 05:49.950 --> 05:51.049 WITH THE CURRENT U.S. ECONOMY. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT 05:51.051 --> 05:51.350 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT THOSE. 05:51.352 --> 05:53.118 THOSE. ONE AT A TIME. 05:53.120 --> 05:55.253 ONE AT A TIME. THE FIRST ONE IS, BORDER 05:55.255 --> 05:56.154 THE FIRST ONE IS, BORDER SECURITY, WHICH OF COURSE A LOT 05:56.156 --> 05:58.824 SECURITY, WHICH OF COURSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY HAS TO COME FIRST. 05:58.826 --> 06:03.995 OF PEOPLE SAY HAS TO COME FIRST. >>> THAT'S A DILEMMA, BECAUSE 06:03.997 --> 06:06.898 >>> THAT'S A DILEMMA, BECAUSE IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT MIME 06:06.900 --> 06:10.068 IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT MIME ARE WORRIED ABOUT ILLEGAL 06:10.070 --> 06:10.502 ARE WORRIED ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATIONS. 06:10.504 --> 06:16.808 IMMIGRATIONS. BUT ILLEGAL IM ---RIGHT NOW THE 06:16.810 --> 06:19.578 BUT ILLEGAL IM ---RIGHT NOW THE ECONOMIC SEGMENT -- THE 06:19.580 --> 06:20.345 ECONOMIC SEGMENT -- THE OVERWHELMING THE LEGAL 06:20.347 --> 06:21.780 OVERWHELMING THE LEGAL IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. 06:21.782 --> 06:23.148 IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. SO IT ACTUALLY DIFFICULT TO 06:23.150 --> 06:34.426 SO IT ACTUALLY DIFFICULT TO SECURE THE BORDER WHEN THEREA 06:34.428 --> 06:37.863 SECURE THE BORDER WHEN THEREA THAT BIG OF -- ILLEGAL 06:37.865 --> 06:39.965 THAT BIG OF -- ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A SYMPTOM OF THE 06:39.967 --> 06:41.333 IMMIGRATION IS A SYMPTOM OF THE PROBLEM, AND IT IS A PROBLEM, 06:41.335 --> 06:44.836 PROBLEM, AND IT IS A PROBLEM, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THIS MISMATCH 06:44.838 --> 06:47.038 BUT THE PROBLEM IS THIS MISMATCH OF LEGAL CHANNELS. 06:47.040 --> 06:48.507 OF LEGAL CHANNELS. WE HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT GOETHE 06:48.509 --> 06:50.542 WE HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT GOETHE IN SERVICE SECTOR JOBS. 06:50.544 --> 06:53.745 IN SERVICE SECTOR JOBS. MOST OF THE -- WHEN WE TALK 06:53.747 --> 06:58.383 MOST OF THE -- WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LOW CELL, WE TALK ABOUT 06:58.385 --> 07:00.018 ABOUT LOW CELL, WE TALK ABOUT TIPLY LOW BASEMENT -- THEY'RE 07:00.020 --> 07:02.988 TIPLY LOW BASEMENT -- THEY'RE FROM A TIME WHEN GRADUATING FROM 07:02.990 --> 07:04.823 FROM A TIME WHEN GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL IS A BIG DEAL AND 07:04.825 --> 07:06.291 HIGH SCHOOL IS A BIG DEAL AND YOUNG IMMIGRANT WORKERS HAVE 07:06.293 --> 07:10.662 YOUNG IMMIGRANT WORKERS HAVE BEEN COMING IN ILLEGALLY BECAUSE 07:10.664 --> 07:13.799 BEEN COMING IN ILLEGALLY BECAUSE THE LEGAL CHANNEL IS STUDYING 07:13.801 --> 07:15.600 THE LEGAL CHANNEL IS STUDYING HOW TO FILL IN THE GAPS IN THE 07:15.602 --> 07:18.036 HOW TO FILL IN THE GAPS IN THE ECONOMY "WHAT LOOKS BEST FROM A 07:18.038 --> 07:19.671 ECONOMY "WHAT LOOKS BEST FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE WHEN IT COMES 07:19.673 --> 07:20.539 POLICY PERSPECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT? 07:20.541 --> 07:22.040 TO THAT? >> THE MAIN THING THAT'S 07:22.042 --> 07:25.544 >> THE MAIN THING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS FOR CONGRESS TO 07:25.546 --> 07:27.446 IMPORTANT IS FOR CONGRESS TO CREATE FLEX LT IN THE SYSTEM. 07:27.448 --> 07:29.748 CREATE FLEX LT IN THE SYSTEM. RIGHT NOW THE SYSTEM IS, WE DO 07:29.750 --> 07:34.219 RIGHT NOW THE SYSTEM IS, WE DO HAVE GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS. 07:34.221 --> 07:37.722 HAVE GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS. THERE ARE AGRICULTURAL VISAS FOR 07:37.724 --> 07:41.560 THERE ARE AGRICULTURAL VISAS FOR PEOPLE TO WORK IN HOTEL, SKI 07:41.562 --> 07:42.928 PEOPLE TO WORK IN HOTEL, SKI RESORTS, THAT SORT OF THING. 07:42.930 --> 07:44.996 RESORTS, THAT SORT OF THING. BUT CONGRESS NEEDS TO CREATE 07:44.998 --> 07:46.565 BUT CONGRESS NEEDS TO CREATE EXPANDED GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS 07:46.567 --> 07:48.567 EXPANDED GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS THAT ARE FLEXIBLE THAT CAN 07:48.569 --> 07:50.101 THAT ARE FLEXIBLE THAT CAN CHANGE WITH THE ECONOMY. 07:50.103 --> 07:53.038 CHANGE WITH THE ECONOMY. >> AND IS THERE A NEED FOR A 07:53.040 --> 07:55.273 >> AND IS THERE A NEED FOR A PERMANENT WORKER PROGRAM OF 07:55.275 --> 07:57.242 PERMANENT WORKER PROGRAM OF FOREIGNERS AT THE LOW SKILL 07:57.244 --> 07:57.943 FOREIGNERS AT THE LOW SKILL LEVEL? 07:57.945 --> 08:01.246 LEVEL? >> I THINK THAT'S LESS STRAIGHT 08:01.248 --> 08:01.580 >> I THINK THAT'S LESS STRAIGHT FORWARD. 08:01.582 --> 08:04.449 FORWARD. I THINK AS A PUBLIC POLICY 08:04.451 --> 08:06.451 I THINK AS A PUBLIC POLICY QUESTION, ANY TIME YOU CREATE A 08:06.453 --> 08:08.386 QUESTION, ANY TIME YOU CREATE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WORKERS AND 08:08.388 --> 08:09.688 DISTINCTION BETWEEN WORKERS AND STEPS, THAT CREATES PROBLEMS IN 08:09.690 --> 08:10.889 STEPS, THAT CREATES PROBLEMS IN THE LONG RUN. 08:10.891 --> 08:14.559 THE LONG RUN. WE DO WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE 08:14.561 --> 08:15.660 WE DO WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE TO LEARN ENGLISH, TO BECOME PART 08:15.662 --> 08:17.496 TO LEARN ENGLISH, TO BECOME PART OF OUR SOCIETY, BUT IF WE'RE 08:17.498 --> 08:19.664 OF OUR SOCIETY, BUT IF WE'RE REALLY SAYING, NO, WE REALLY 08:19.666 --> 08:21.633 REALLY SAYING, NO, WE REALLY WOOCHBT YOU TO WORK AND BY THE 08:21.635 --> 08:24.302 WOOCHBT YOU TO WORK AND BY THE WAY, LEAVE WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH 08:24.304 --> 08:26.538 WAY, LEAVE WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH YOU, THAT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD 08:26.540 --> 08:31.409 YOU, THAT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD BALANCE. 08:31.411 --> 08:33.044 BALANCE. CREATE MORE PERMANENT LEGAL 08:33.046 --> 08:35.347 CREATE MORE PERMANENT LEGAL CHANNELS SOA PEOPLE CAN COME AND 08:35.349 --> 08:37.616 CHANNELS SOA PEOPLE CAN COME AND JOIN OUR SOCIETY AND BECOME 08:37.618 --> 08:39.150 JOIN OUR SOCIETY AND BECOME FULL-FLEDGED MEMBERS OF IT. 08:39.152 --> 08:41.319 FULL-FLEDGED MEMBERS OF IT. >> AND TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE IN 08:41.321 --> 08:42.854 >> AND TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE IN RELATION TO THE AYE SKILLED 08:42.856 --> 08:43.288 RELATION TO THE AYE SKILLED PROGRAMS. 08:43.290 --> 08:44.689 PROGRAMS. THESE PROGRAMS HAVE STRICT 08:44.691 --> 08:47.359 THESE PROGRAMS HAVE STRICT LIMITS ON THEM AND A LOT OF 08:47.361 --> 08:48.026 LIMITS ON THEM AND A LOT OF BUSINESSES SAY THEY'RE NOT 08:48.028 --> 08:49.127 BUSINESSES SAY THEY'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH OF THOSE WORKER 08:49.129 --> 08:53.265 GETTING ENOUGH OF THOSE WORKER INTO THE COUNTRY. 08:53.267 --> 08:55.667 INTO THE COUNTRY. >>> AGAIN FOR FLEXIBILITY AND 08:55.669 --> 08:58.803 >>> AGAIN FOR FLEXIBILITY AND THE NUMBER TO BE FLEXIBILITY. 08:58.805 --> 09:01.640 THE NUMBER TO BE FLEXIBILITY. >> THE REAL CRITICISMS OF OUR 09:01.642 --> 09:03.808 >> THE REAL CRITICISMS OF OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, IS WE'RE 09:03.810 --> 09:05.277 CURRENT SYSTEM, IS WE'RE EDUCATING A LOT OF HIGH SKILLED 09:05.279 --> 09:07.212 EDUCATING A LOT OF HIGH SKILLED FOREIGN STUDENTS IN OUR 09:07.214 --> 09:07.646 FOREIGN STUDENTS IN OUR UNIVERSITIES. 09:07.648 --> 09:08.413 UNIVERSITIES. IT'S CURRENTLY FOR THAT 09:08.415 --> 09:10.882 IT'S CURRENTLY FOR THAT KNOWLEDGE TO STAY HERE IN THE 09:10.884 --> 09:11.216 KNOWLEDGE TO STAY HERE IN THE COUNTRY. 09:11.218 --> 09:13.218 COUNTRY. IF PEOPLE COME IN HERE ON 09:13.220 --> 09:16.187 IF PEOPLE COME IN HERE ON STUDENT VISAS AND GET ENGINEERS 09:16.189 --> 09:17.789 STUDENT VISAS AND GET ENGINEERS OR COMMUTER SCIENCE DEGREES, AND 09:17.791 --> 09:20.325 OR COMMUTER SCIENCE DEGREES, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND 09:20.327 --> 09:21.726 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO STAY AS 09:21.728 --> 09:24.095 EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO STAY AS PERMANENT WORKERS. 09:24.097 --> 09:24.829 PERMANENT WORKERS. >> NOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE 09:24.831 --> 09:27.599 >> NOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE VISA SYSTEM FOR THE FAMILIES OF 09:27.601 --> 09:29.067 VISA SYSTEM FOR THE FAMILIES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY, 09:29.069 --> 09:31.636 PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY, WHETHER THEY'RE CITIZENS OR 09:31.638 --> 09:34.072 WHETHER THEY'RE CITIZENS OR PERMANENT RESIDENTS, FOR FIXES 09:34.074 --> 09:35.206 PERMANENT RESIDENTS, FOR FIXES NEEDED THERE? 09:35.208 --> 09:37.642 NEEDED THERE? >> IN 2007 WHEN SENATORS KENNEDY 09:37.644 --> 09:39.945 >> IN 2007 WHEN SENATORS KENNEDY AND DIAL PROPOSED A SIGNIFICANT 09:39.947 --> 09:41.713 AND DIAL PROPOSED A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE IMMIGRATION 09:41.715 --> 09:43.348 CHANGE TO THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM, THERE WAS TALK AT THAT 09:43.350 --> 09:46.351 SYSTEM, THERE WAS TALK AT THAT TIME ABOUT MOVING TO A OPPONENT 09:46.353 --> 09:49.654 TIME ABOUT MOVING TO A OPPONENT BASIS, WHERE INSTEAD -- IF YOU 09:49.656 --> 09:52.557 BASIS, WHERE INSTEAD -- IF YOU ARE A U.S. CITIZEN WITH CLOSE 09:52.559 --> 09:53.858 ARE A U.S. CITIZEN WITH CLOSE RELATIVES WHO ARE FOREIGN 09:53.860 --> 09:55.760 RELATIVES WHO ARE FOREIGN NATIONALS, IT'S REALLY, REALLY 09:55.762 --> 09:58.863 NATIONALS, IT'S REALLY, REALLY EASY FOR THOSE FOLKS TO 09:58.865 --> 10:01.099 EASY FOR THOSE FOLKS TO IMMIGRATE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR 10:01.101 --> 10:03.702 IMMIGRATE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR MATCH OF, OR THEIR SORT OF SKILL 10:03.704 --> 10:07.172 MATCH OF, OR THEIR SORT OF SKILL OF WORKERS TO THE U.S. MY. 10:07.174 --> 10:08.873 OF WORKERS TO THE U.S. MY. THE AT THE TIME IT WAS TO GO TO 10:08.875 --> 10:11.476 THE AT THE TIME IT WAS TO GO TO A POINT SYSTEM AND THERE WAS 10:11.478 --> 10:12.978 A POINT SYSTEM AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY -- 10:12.980 --> 10:14.646 SOME CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY -- DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE 10:14.648 --> 10:17.082 DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE RIGHTS, SO THERE WAS TALK AT 10:17.084 --> 10:18.917 RIGHTS, SO THERE WAS TALK AT THAT POINT OF INCLUDING FAMILY 10:18.919 --> 10:19.851 THAT POINT OF INCLUDING FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS AS ONE OF THE 10:19.853 --> 10:21.987 RELATIONSHIPS AS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU GET POINTS FOR, BUT 10:21.989 --> 10:24.422 THINGS YOU GET POINTS FOR, BUT ALL OF THIS IS REALLY UP IN THE 10:24.424 --> 10:25.924 ALL OF THIS IS REALLY UP IN THE AIR, CONGRESS HAS ALLOWED 10:25.926 --> 10:28.193 AIR, CONGRESS HAS ALLOWED DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CAN 10:28.195 --> 10:31.029 DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CAN STRUCTURE THE SYSTEM, BUT IT 10:31.031 --> 10:34.332 STRUCTURE THE SYSTEM, BUT IT NIDS TO BE STRUCTURED TO BE IN 10:34.334 --> 10:37.168 NIDS TO BE STRUCTURED TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT 10:37.170 --> 10:37.736 ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT REALITIES. 10:37.738 --> 10:39.904 REALITIES. >> WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE 10:39.906 --> 10:41.239 >> WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE ESTIMATED 11 MILLION PEOPLE IN 10:41.241 --> 10:43.508 ESTIMATED 11 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY NOW ILLEGALLY? 10:43.510 --> 10:48.546 THE COUNTRY NOW ILLEGALLY? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THEROR 10:48.548 --> 10:50.248 WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THEROR WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN THERE? 10:50.250 --> 10:54.219 WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN THERE? >> THAT THE QUESTION OF AMNESTY 10:54.221 --> 10:56.821 >> THAT THE QUESTION OF AMNESTY IS SLIGHTLY OVER THE 2007 10:56.823 --> 10:58.556 IS SLIGHTLY OVER THE 2007 NEGOTIATIONS, AND REALLY WHAT'S 10:58.558 --> 11:00.125 NEGOTIATIONS, AND REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS A POLITICAL DEBATE 11:00.127 --> 11:01.793 HAPPENING IS A POLITICAL DEBATE WITHIN THE COUNTRY ABOUT WHAT'S 11:01.795 --> 11:03.128 WITHIN THE COUNTRY ABOUT WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE PENALTY FOR 11:03.130 --> 11:05.163 THE APPROPRIATE PENALTY FOR BEING IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. 11:05.165 --> 11:07.599 BEING IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. ONE SIDE WILL SAY, LOOK, THEY 11:07.601 --> 11:10.435 ONE SIDE WILL SAY, LOOK, THEY BROKE OUR LAWS, THEY SHOULD BE 11:10.437 --> 11:12.337 BROKE OUR LAWS, THEY SHOULD BE DEPORTED AND THERE SHOULD BE NO 11:12.339 --> 11:13.071 DEPORTED AND THERE SHOULD BE NO MERCY. 11:13.073 --> 11:15.607 MERCY. THAT'S AT BEEN END OF THE 11:15.609 --> 11:16.074 THAT'S AT BEEN END OF THE SPECTRUM. 11:16.076 --> 11:19.878 SPECTRUM. >> ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE 11:19.880 --> 11:23.281 >> ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE EMPLOY KBRERS SAYING, WE TAUGHT 11:23.283 --> 11:26.251 EMPLOY KBRERS SAYING, WE TAUGHT THEM A SKILL AND THEY'RE MARRIED 11:26.253 --> 11:27.519 THEM A SKILL AND THEY'RE MARRIED TO U.S. CITIZENS, THEY'RE 11:27.521 --> 11:32.957 TO U.S. CITIZENS, THEY'RE EMBEDDED IN OUR SOCIETY, LET'S 11:32.959 --> 11:35.493 EMBEDDED IN OUR SOCIETY, LET'S JUST LET IT GO. 11:35.495 --> 11:37.062 JUST LET IT GO. SO WE'RE HAVING THIS POLITICAL 11:37.064 --> 11:38.963 SO WE'RE HAVING THIS POLITICAL DEBATE OVER WHAT THE APPROPRIATE 11:38.965 --> 11:40.598 DEBATE OVER WHAT THE APPROPRIATE PENALTY SHOULD BE AND ONCE THAT 11:40.600 --> 11:43.134 PENALTY SHOULD BE AND ONCE THAT I 11:43.136 --> 11:46.371 I IS -- ONCE THAT SETTLES, I THINK 11:46.373 --> 11:49.174 IS -- ONCE THAT SETTLES, I THINK WE CAN GO ON TO MAKE THE OTHER 11:49.176 --> 11:50.008 WE CAN GO ON TO MAKE THE OTHER CHANGES IN THE SYSTEM. 11:50.010 --> 11:55.013 CHANGES IN THE SYSTEM. BUT SO FAR THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY 11:55.015 --> 11:57.515 BUT SO FAR THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY LIMITED THE PROIMMIGRATION 11:57.517 --> 11:57.849 LIMITED THE PROIMMIGRATION SYSTEM. 11:57.851 --> 12:00.251 SYSTEM. >> AS A LONG-TIME STUDENT OF 12:00.253 --> 12:01.653 >> AS A LONG-TIME STUDENT OF IMMIGRATION POLICY IN THIS 12:01.655 --> 12:04.956 IMMIGRATION POLICY IN THIS COUNTRY, WHAT GIVES YOU HOPE NOW 12:04.958 --> 12:06.024 COUNTRY, WHAT GIVES YOU HOPE NOW THAT THIS DISCUSSION IS BACK ON 12:06.026 --> 12:07.392 THAT THIS DISCUSSION IS BACK ON THE FRONT BURNER? 12:07.394 --> 12:09.294 THE FRONT BURNER? >> AS I SAID SEVERAL TIMES, WHAT 12:09.296 --> 12:11.429 >> AS I SAID SEVERAL TIMES, WHAT A DIFFERENCE AN ELECTION MAKES. 12:11.431 --> 12:12.897 A DIFFERENCE AN ELECTION MAKES. I THINK THE MOST RECENT 12:12.899 --> 12:14.532 I THINK THE MOST RECENT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND THE 12:14.534 --> 12:16.434 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND THE CHANGES NA WE SAW IN THE 12:16.436 --> 12:20.338 CHANGES NA WE SAW IN THE CONGRESS HAVE REALLY CHANGED THE 12:20.340 --> 12:20.839 CONGRESS HAVE REALLY CHANGED THE DYNAMICS. 12:20.841 --> 12:24.442 DYNAMICS. THE ROLE OF HISPANIC VOTERS IN 12:24.444 --> 12:27.579 THE ROLE OF HISPANIC VOTERS IN THE UNITED STATES, IT'S CLEARLY 12:27.581 --> 12:28.313 THE UNITED STATES, IT'S CLEARLY COMING TO KNEW WHICH IS IF YOU 12:28.315 --> 12:29.981 COMING TO KNEW WHICH IS IF YOU WILL. 12:29.983 --> 12:33.051 WILL. I THINK THERE'S A DYNAMIC THAT 12:33.053 --> 12:34.986 I THINK THERE'S A DYNAMIC THAT WE CAN'T JUST KEEP DEMONIZING 12:34.988 --> 12:38.356 WE CAN'T JUST KEEP DEMONIZING OUR IMMIGRANTS FOR THE FACT THAT 12:38.358 --> 12:40.692 OUR IMMIGRANTS FOR THE FACT THAT OUR -- STEP TO SOLVING THE 12:40.694 --> 12:41.760 OUR -- STEP TO SOLVING THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE THERE. 12:41.762 --> 12:52.537 PROBLEMS THAT ARE THERE. >> JEW DUJU DEATH GANZ. 12:52.539 --> 12:55.573 >> JEW DUJU DEATH GANZ. >> IMMIGRATION ISN'T THE ONLY 12:55.575 --> 12:58.443 >> IMMIGRATION ISN'T THE ONLY BIG ITEM ON THE SENATOR'S 12:58.445 --> 13:00.078 BIG ITEM ON THE SENATOR'S AJEOPARDY DACHLT HERE'S MORE OF 13:00.080 --> 13:00.879 AJEOPARDY DACHLT HERE'S MORE OF MY INTERVIEW WITH JART JEFF 13:00.881 --> 13:04.582 MY INTERVIEW WITH JART JEFF FLAKE. 13:04.584 --> 13:06.918 FLAKE. >> ONE OF YOUR LAST ACTIONS AS A 13:06.920 --> 13:09.454 >> ONE OF YOUR LAST ACTIONS AS A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE WAS THE VOTE 13:09.456 --> 13:11.689 MEMBER OF THE HOUSE WAS THE VOTE ON THE TERIN RARE, IF WE MAY 13:11.691 --> 13:14.893 ON THE TERIN RARE, IF WE MAY CALL IT THAT, NIS CALL REPAIR OR 13:14.895 --> 13:16.961 CALL IT THAT, NIS CALL REPAIR OR HOW EVER WOULD YOU LIKE TO 13:16.963 --> 13:17.996 HOW EVER WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHARACTERIZE IT, I WOULD URGE 13:17.998 --> 13:19.264 CHARACTERIZE IT, I WOULD URGE YOU TO DO THAT. 13:19.266 --> 13:21.900 YOU TO DO THAT. AND YOUR VOTE WAS GEPT THE PACK 13:21.902 --> 13:23.635 AND YOUR VOTE WAS GEPT THE PACK FAJ THAT CAME THROUGH, COULD YOU 13:23.637 --> 13:24.602 FAJ THAT CAME THROUGH, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? 13:24.604 --> 13:26.905 EXPLAIN THAT? >> I NET THAT WE HAVE TO INCLUDE 13:26.907 --> 13:28.706 >> I NET THAT WE HAVE TO INCLUDE SOME SPENDING CUTS AT SOME 13:28.708 --> 13:33.878 SOME SPENDING CUTS AT SOME POINT, I'M NOT A FAN OF THE 13:33.880 --> 13:34.913 POINT, I'M NOT A FAN OF THE SEQUEST 13:34.915 --> 13:36.147 SEQUEST SEQUESTER, I'M NOT FOND OF THE 13:36.149 --> 13:37.949 SEQUESTER, I'M NOT FOND OF THE BUDGET CONTROL THAT CAME ABOUT A 13:37.951 --> 13:39.284 BUDGET CONTROL THAT CAME ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. 13:39.286 --> 13:41.586 YEAR AND A HALF AGO. IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE 13:41.588 --> 13:42.954 IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE SEQUESTER, WE HAVE GOT TO FIND 13:42.956 --> 13:44.622 SEQUESTER, WE HAVE GOT TO FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO CUT. 13:44.624 --> 13:46.524 OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO CUT. IT WAS JUST UNBELIEVABLE THAT WE 13:46.526 --> 13:48.593 IT WAS JUST UNBELIEVABLE THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THE FISCAL CLIFF, 13:48.595 --> 13:50.728 COULD ADDRESS THE FISCAL CLIFF, THE CLIFF IS THERE BECAUSE OF 13:50.730 --> 13:53.131 THE CLIFF IS THERE BECAUSE OF OUR MASSIVE DEBTS AND DEFICIT 13:53.133 --> 13:55.300 OUR MASSIVE DEBTS AND DEFICIT AND ACTUALLY PASS A BILL THAT 13:55.302 --> 13:59.337 AND ACTUALLY PASS A BILL THAT INCREASES SPENDING AND THEN JUST 13:59.339 --> 14:01.840 INCREASES SPENDING AND THEN JUST KEEP THE SPENDING CUTS DOWN THE 14:01.842 --> 14:02.307 KEEP THE SPENDING CUTS DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN. 14:02.309 --> 14:04.342 ROAD AGAIN. I COULDN'T BE A PART OF THAT. 14:04.344 --> 14:07.312 I COULDN'T BE A PART OF THAT. >> IT NOT TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD, 14:07.314 --> 14:12.350 >> IT NOT TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD, BUT IT'S JUST A MO OR MORE THAT 14:12.352 --> 14:14.519 BUT IT'S JUST A MO OR MORE THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS TO WORK ON 14:14.521 --> 14:14.853 THE PRESIDENT HAS TO WORK ON THAT. 14:14.855 --> 14:18.256 THAT. >> WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? 14:18.258 --> 14:20.024 >> WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? >> THE SOLUTION IS TO CUT 14:20.026 --> 14:20.391 >> THE SOLUTION IS TO CUT SPENDING. 14:20.393 --> 14:21.125 SPENDING. THE PRESIDENT HASLEM MADE ITS 14:21.127 --> 14:23.461 THE PRESIDENT HASLEM MADE ITS CLEAR HE WANTS TO SHAKE THE 14:23.463 --> 14:24.362 CLEAR HE WANTS TO SHAKE THE REVENUE TREE ONCE AGAIN. 14:24.364 --> 14:25.930 REVENUE TREE ONCE AGAIN. THAT ONLY GOES SO FAR. 14:25.932 --> 14:27.732 THAT ONLY GOES SO FAR. WE HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME TAX 14:27.734 --> 14:29.133 WE HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME TAX INCREASES AND I THINK IT'S TIME 14:29.135 --> 14:30.235 INCREASES AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO CUT SPENDING NOW. 14:30.237 --> 14:32.503 TO CUT SPENDING NOW. >> LIKE I SAID, I THOUGHT THAT 14:32.505 --> 14:35.707 >> LIKE I SAID, I THOUGHT THAT THE SEQUESTER, I STILL PLEN THAT 14:35.709 --> 14:39.811 THE SEQUESTER, I STILL PLEN THAT IT HITS FAR TOO HARD ON DEFENSE 14:39.813 --> 14:41.145 IT HITS FAR TOO HARD ON DEFENSE RATHER THAN SOME OTHER AREAS. 14:41.147 --> 14:44.716 RATHER THAN SOME OTHER AREAS. IN THE HOUSE WE HAVE A GOOD 14:44.718 --> 14:46.951 IN THE HOUSE WE HAVE A GOOD BLUEPRINT, THE RYAN BUDGET. 14:46.953 --> 15:02.300 BLUEPRINT, THE RYAN BUDGET. YOU'VE GOT THE SIMPSON BOWLES -- 15:02.302 --> 15:06.037 YOU'VE GOT THE SIMPSON BOWLES -- WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN THAT. 15:06.039 --> 15:07.906 WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN THAT. IT'S I ANYBODY WHO SAYS THAT IN 15:07.908 --> 15:10.708 IT'S I ANYBODY WHO SAYS THAT IN A $700 BILLION DEFENSE BUDGET, 15:10.710 --> 15:12.510 A $700 BILLION DEFENSE BUDGET, BUT THERE'S NO ROOM FOR 15:12.512 --> 15:14.412 BUT THERE'S NO ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL SAVINGS, ISN'T 15:14.414 --> 15:15.380 ADDITIONAL SAVINGS, ISN'T LOOKING REGARD ENOUGH. 15:15.382 --> 15:18.716 LOOKING REGARD ENOUGH. HAVING SAID THAT, THE SEQUESTER 15:18.718 --> 15:21.953 HAVING SAID THAT, THE SEQUESTER GOES FAR TOO FAR, AND WE NEED TO 15:21.955 --> 15:24.289 GOES FAR TOO FAR, AND WE NEED TO FIND THAT RIGHT APPROACH AND 15:24.291 --> 15:25.623 FIND THAT RIGHT APPROACH AND TAKE IT. 15:25.625 --> 15:28.660 TAKE IT. BUT WE HAVE GOT TO CUT EVERY 15:28.662 --> 15:31.129 BUT WE HAVE GOT TO CUT EVERY AREA, BELIEVE ME, WHEN YOU'RE 15:31.131 --> 15:35.366 AREA, BELIEVE ME, WHEN YOU'RE BORROWING 40 CENTS ON EACH 15:35.368 --> 15:39.671 BORROWING 40 CENTS ON EACH DOLLAR, MORE CUTS NEED TO BE. 15:39.673 --> 15:42.240 DOLLAR, MORE CUTS NEED TO BE. >> WE ARE THE ENTITLEMENT 15:42.242 --> 15:43.975 >> WE ARE THE ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM, AND IN PARTICULAR, 15:43.977 --> 15:45.843 PROGRAM, AND IN PARTICULAR, MEDICARE, AND TO A CERTAIN 15:45.845 --> 15:47.946 MEDICARE, AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT MEDICAID, WITH MEDICARE 15:47.948 --> 15:49.514 EXTENT MEDICAID, WITH MEDICARE WE HAVE GOT TO DO A LOT OF 15:49.516 --> 15:51.282 WE HAVE GOT TO DO A LOT OF THINGS AND WE OUTLINED SOME OF 15:51.284 --> 15:53.384 THINGS AND WE OUTLINED SOME OF THOSE IN THE RYAN BUDGET OR THE 15:53.386 --> 15:54.152 THOSE IN THE RYAN BUDGET OR THE RYAN APPROACH. 15:54.154 --> 15:57.689 RYAN APPROACH. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO RAISE THE 15:57.691 --> 15:59.624 WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO RAISE THE REQUIREMENT AGE FOR SOCIAL 15:59.626 --> 16:00.692 REQUIREMENT AGE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND FOR MEDICARE. 16:00.694 --> 16:07.165 SECURITY AND FOR MEDICARE. WE HAVE GOT TO GO TO 67 LIKE WE 16:07.167 --> 16:08.433 WE HAVE GOT TO GO TO 67 LIKE WE ARE TO 67. 16:08.435 --> 16:11.169 ARE TO 67. IT'S NOT A VOUCHER MODEL THAT 16:11.171 --> 16:13.504 IT'S NOT A VOUCHER MODEL THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS THOSE WHO ARE 16:13.506 --> 16:16.474 ACTUALLY ALLOWS THOSE WHO ARE UNDER AGE 55 TO HAVE SOME HOPE 16:16.476 --> 16:17.608 UNDER AGE 55 TO HAVE SOME HOPE THAT THE PROGRAM WILL BE AROUND 16:17.610 --> 16:18.776 THAT THE PROGRAM WILL BE AROUND FOR THEM. 16:18.778 --> 16:21.045 FOR THEM. UNDER CURRENT POLICY, IT WON'T B 16:21.047 --> 16:24.549 UNDER CURRENT POLICY, IT WON'T B AND SO WE HAVE GOT THE CHANGE 16:24.551 --> 16:24.849 AND SO WE HAVE GOT THE CHANGE THAT. 16:24.851 --> 16:28.653 THAT. >> HOW WILL THE -- WHICH THE 16:28.655 --> 16:29.988 >> HOW WILL THE -- WHICH THE DEMOCRATS ARE OPPOSED TO OR 16:29.990 --> 16:31.723 DEMOCRATS ARE OPPOSED TO OR WITHOUT SOME KIND OF SIGNIFICANT 16:31.725 --> 16:34.492 WITHOUT SOME KIND OF SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN REVENUES, TAX 16:34.494 --> 16:36.794 INCREASES IN REVENUES, TAX REVENUES, WHICH REPUBLICANS ARE 16:36.796 --> 16:37.161 REVENUES, WHICH REPUBLICANS ARE CLOSE TO? 16:37.163 --> 16:38.429 CLOSE TO? HOW CAN WE DO IT? 16:38.431 --> 16:40.264 HOW CAN WE DO IT? >> WE HAVE ALREADY ON THE TAX 16:40.266 --> 16:41.099 >> WE HAVE ALREADY ON THE TAX SIDE, WE HAVE ALREADY RAISED THE 16:41.101 --> 16:44.502 SIDE, WE HAVE ALREADY RAISED THE TOP RATE. 16:44.504 --> 16:46.671 TOP RATE. $650 BILLION IN ADDITIONAL 16:46.673 --> 16:47.805 $650 BILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE WILL BE COMING THERE. 16:47.807 --> 16:53.044 REVENUE WILL BE COMING THERE. IN THE CONTEXT OF REAL TAX 16:53.046 --> 16:53.945 IN THE CONTEXT OF REAL TAX REFORM, WE'LL LIKELY RECEIVE OR 16:53.947 --> 16:56.981 REFORM, WE'LL LIKELY RECEIVE OR REALIZE ADDITIONAL REVENUE WHEN 16:56.983 --> 16:59.317 REALIZE ADDITIONAL REVENUE WHEN YOU YOU CAN GET RID OF 16:59.319 --> 17:02.553 YOU YOU CAN GET RID OF TEMPLEATIONS AND LOOPHOLES. 17:02.555 --> 17:05.123 TEMPLEATIONS AND LOOPHOLES. AND CERTAINLY, THE DEMOCRATS, I 17:05.125 --> 17:06.290 AND CERTAINLY, THE DEMOCRATS, I THINK THE REPUBLICANS HAVE 17:06.292 --> 17:08.659 THINK THE REPUBLICANS HAVE LARMLY GOTTEN OVER OUR AVERSION 17:08.661 --> 17:11.329 LARMLY GOTTEN OVER OUR AVERSION TO ADDITIONAL RESIDUE COMING IN. 17:11.331 --> 17:13.631 TO ADDITIONAL RESIDUE COMING IN. THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO GET OVER 17:13.633 --> 17:15.266 THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO GET OVER THEIR AVERSION TO DEALING WITH 17:15.268 --> 17:16.167 THEIR AVERSION TO DEALING WITH SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. 17:16.169 --> 17:18.803 SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. 17:18.805 --> 17:20.805 WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. AND THE PRESIDENT HASSED A TIMES 17:20.807 --> 17:23.107 AND THE PRESIDENT HASSED A TIMES SNALED THAT HE'S WILLING TO GO 17:23.109 --> 17:26.677 SNALED THAT HE'S WILLING TO GO THERE, BUT THEN HE SEEMS TO BE 17:26.679 --> 17:28.513 THERE, BUT THEN HE SEEMS TO BE YANKED RIGHT BACK BY HIS BASE OR 17:28.515 --> 17:30.081 YANKED RIGHT BACK BY HIS BASE OR BY OTHER INTERESTS. 17:30.083 --> 17:32.984 BY OTHER INTERESTS. IT GOT TO BE DONE. 17:32.986 --> 17:35.253 IT GOT TO BE DONE. >> WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO 17:35.255 --> 17:37.088 >> WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO PRESIDENT OBAMA'S GUN CONTROL 17:37.090 --> 17:40.258 PRESIDENT OBAMA'S GUN CONTROL SUGGESTIONS THAT HE JUST ISSUED 17:40.260 --> 17:40.625 SUGGESTIONS THAT HE JUST ISSUED RECENTLY? 17:40.627 --> 17:43.428 RECENTLY? >> THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF THAT 17:43.430 --> 17:48.332 >> THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF THAT THAT WE DO NEED TO IMPLEMENT. 17:48.334 --> 17:50.701 THAT WE DO NEED TO IMPLEMENT. I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE 17:50.703 --> 17:51.602 I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS. 17:51.604 --> 17:54.806 BACKGROUND CHECKS. I THINK THE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST 17:54.808 --> 17:56.841 I THINK THE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN TECHNOLOGICAL ONES. 17:56.843 --> 17:59.343 HAVE BEEN TECHNOLOGICAL ONES. YOU NEED THE MAKE SURE THAT 17:59.345 --> 18:02.613 YOU NEED THE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ACCESS IN A TIMELY 18:02.615 --> 18:02.947 THERE'S ACCESS IN A TIMELY FASHION. 18:02.949 --> 18:04.816 FASHION. THAT HASN'T BEEN POSSIBLE IN 18:04.818 --> 18:08.019 THAT HASN'T BEEN POSSIBLE IN SOME CASES WITH GUN SHOWS AND 18:08.021 --> 18:08.519 SOME CASES WITH GUN SHOWS AND SOME OTHER THINGS. 18:08.521 --> 18:09.821 SOME OTHER THINGS. IF WE CAN CROSS THE 18:09.823 --> 18:13.891 IF WE CAN CROSS THE TECHNOLOGICAL HURDLE, LET'S KEEP 18:13.893 --> 18:15.726 TECHNOLOGICAL HURDLE, LET'S KEEP IN MIND, THAT IS WHERE WE CAN 18:15.728 --> 18:17.295 IN MIND, THAT IS WHERE WE CAN MAKE SOME REAL PROGRESS. 18:17.297 --> 18:20.565 MAKE SOME REAL PROGRESS. THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUES, AN 18:20.567 --> 18:25.269 THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUES, AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND OTHER 18:25.271 --> 18:27.305 ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MORE COSMETIC, 18:27.307 --> 18:29.207 THINGS THAT ARE MORE COSMETIC, IF YOU WILL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT 18:29.209 --> 18:30.575 IF YOU WILL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ASSAULT WEAPONS THAT ARE 18:30.577 --> 18:32.009 THE ASSAULT WEAPONS THAT ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT. 18:32.011 --> 18:35.813 BEING TALKED ABOUT. I THINK THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN 18:35.815 --> 18:40.284 I THINK THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN LESS THAN 1/2 OF 1% FOR ALL OF 18:40.286 --> 18:42.019 LESS THAN 1/2 OF 1% FOR ALL OF GUN VIOLENCE, SO I THINK THE 18:42.021 --> 18:43.955 GUN VIOLENCE, SO I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO ARE 18:43.957 --> 18:45.189 MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO ARE LOOKING AT BACK GROUND CHECKS 18:45.191 --> 18:46.858 LOOKING AT BACK GROUND CHECKS AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE WHO 18:46.860 --> 18:49.260 AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE WHO HAVE WEAPONS HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT 18:49.262 --> 18:50.695 HAVE WEAPONS HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO HAVE THEM AND SHOULD HAVE 18:50.697 --> 18:50.995 TO HAVE THEM AND SHOULD HAVE THEM. 18:50.997 --> 18:53.564 THEM. >> ANY WEAPON, ASSAULT WEAPONS, 18:53.566 --> 18:54.799 >> ANY WEAPON, ASSAULT WEAPONS, EXTENDED MAG DEEPS? 18:54.801 --> 18:57.568 EXTENDED MAG DEEPS? >> WELL,LIKE I SAID, WE'LL DEAL 18:57.570 --> 18:58.336 >> WELL,LIKE I SAID, WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT. 18:58.338 --> 19:00.404 WITH THAT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REALITIES 19:00.406 --> 19:02.240 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REALITIES IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE, I 19:02.242 --> 19:04.942 IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE, I THINK YOU HAVE HAD HARRY REID 19:04.944 --> 19:07.345 THINK YOU HAVE HAD HARRY REID AND AL FRANKEN COME OUT IN THE 19:07.347 --> 19:09.247 AND AL FRANKEN COME OUT IN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS SAYING THEY 19:09.249 --> 19:10.615 LAST SEVERAL DAYS SAYING THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT BUT THAT WILL 19:10.617 --> 19:12.416 DON'T BELIEVE IT BUT THAT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE SENATE. 19:12.418 --> 19:13.918 MOVE THROUGH THE SENATE. IF YOU HAVE PROBABLE DEMOCRATS 19:13.920 --> 19:15.820 IF YOU HAVE PROBABLE DEMOCRATS LIKE THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT 19:15.822 --> 19:18.623 LIKE THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT WILL B REALLY BE ON THE TABLE. 19:18.625 --> 19:22.527 WILL B REALLY BE ON THE TABLE. BUT FLOOR SOME MEASURES THAT WE 19:22.529 --> 19:23.327 BUT FLOOR SOME MEASURES THAT WE CAN TAKE. 19:23.329 --> 19:25.830 CAN TAKE. >> IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT 80% OF 19:25.832 --> 19:29.767 >> IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT 80% OF AMERICANS GROW WITH BACKGROUND 19:29.769 --> 19:39.210 AMERICANS GROW WITH BACKGROUND CHECKS WITH ALL GUN SALES. 19:39.212 --> 19:40.945 CHECKS WITH ALL GUN SALES. A LOT OF GUN SHOWS TAKE LAYS ON 19:40.947 --> 19:41.612 A LOT OF GUN SHOWS TAKE LAYS ON THE WEEKEND. 19:41.614 --> 19:44.015 THE WEEKEND. DO WE HAVE THE MANPOWER AND 19:44.017 --> 19:44.916 DO WE HAVE THE MANPOWER AND RESOURCES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL 19:44.918 --> 19:46.717 RESOURCES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 19:46.719 --> 19:49.921 IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED AND LEGAL 19:49.923 --> 19:52.056 PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED AND LEGAL CAN WE DO THAT AND STILL GIVE 19:52.058 --> 19:53.758 CAN WE DO THAT AND STILL GIVE PEOPLE TIMELY ACCESS TO GUNS 19:53.760 --> 19:56.527 PEOPLE TIMELY ACCESS TO GUNS THAT THEY FEEL THEY NEED FOR 19:56.529 --> 19:56.994 THAT THEY FEEL THEY NEED FOR PROTECTION? 19:56.996 --> 19:59.163 PROTECTION? THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DELVE 19:59.165 --> 20:01.299 THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DELVE INTO AND LOOK AT. 20:01.301 --> 20:03.534 INTO AND LOOK AT. I THINK ALL OF US WHO ARGUE THAT 20:03.536 --> 20:07.672 I THINK ALL OF US WHO ARGUE THAT THE BEST PROGRESS THAT CAN BE 20:07.674 --> 20:09.307 THE BEST PROGRESS THAT CAN BE MADE WITH GUN VIOLENCE IS TO 20:09.309 --> 20:10.675 MADE WITH GUN VIOLENCE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT CRIMINALS DON'T 20:10.677 --> 20:11.509 MAKE SURE THAT CRIMINALS DON'T HAVE GUNS AND DON'T HAVE ACCESS 20:11.511 --> 20:13.711 HAVE GUNS AND DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO GUNS. 20:13.713 --> 20:16.581 TO GUNS. THEN THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT. 20:16.583 --> 20:19.650 THEN THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT. >> FINALLY TONIGHT, FLAKE SPOKE 20:19.652 --> 20:21.285 >> FINALLY TONIGHT, FLAKE SPOKE ABOUT HIS NEW ROLE AS A SENATOR 20:21.287 --> 20:23.955 ABOUT HIS NEW ROLE AS A SENATOR AFTER HIS 12 YEARS REPRESENTING 20:23.957 --> 20:26.557 AFTER HIS 12 YEARS REPRESENTING A SUBURBAN PHOENIX DISTRICT IN 20:26.559 --> 20:29.126 A SUBURBAN PHOENIX DISTRICT IN THE U.P.S. HOUSE OF 20:29.128 --> 20:29.594 THE U.P.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. 20:29.596 --> 20:30.928 REPRESENTATIVES. TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 20:30.930 --> 20:33.731 TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE. 20:33.733 --> 20:35.666 THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE. YOU'RE JUST MOVING FROM THE 20:35.668 --> 20:37.735 YOU'RE JUST MOVING FROM THE HOUSE INTO THE SENATE. 20:37.737 --> 20:40.438 HOUSE INTO THE SENATE. IS THERE A GREAT DEAL OF 20:40.440 --> 20:42.006 IS THERE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCES? 20:42.008 --> 20:46.077 DIFFERENCES? >> THERE'S A TREMENDOUS DIVIDE 20:46.079 --> 20:51.515 >> THERE'S A TREMENDOUS DIVIDE ON BOTH SUDS OF THE ROTUNDA. 20:51.517 --> 20:59.390 ON BOTH SUDS OF THE ROTUNDA. SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE WHILE TO 20:59.392 --> 21:00.992 SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE WHILE TO GET USED TO IT. 21:00.994 --> 21:04.128 GET USED TO IT. I REALIZE THAT WHY IT'S A 21:04.130 --> 21:06.230 I REALIZE THAT WHY IT'S A SIX-YEAR TERM IN THE SENATE, IT 21:06.232 --> 21:08.065 SIX-YEAR TERM IN THE SENATE, IT TAKES ABOUT THAT LONG TO GET 21:08.067 --> 21:09.800 TAKES ABOUT THAT LONG TO GET YOUR OFFICE. 21:09.802 --> 21:11.669 YOUR OFFICE. FRANKLY FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME 21:11.671 --> 21:15.506 FRANKLY FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME WITH MY LEANINGS AND MY 21:15.508 --> 21:17.408 WITH MY LEANINGS AND MY PHILOSOPHY, I THINK IT'S A MORE 21:17.410 --> 21:18.142 PHILOSOPHY, I THINK IT'S A MORE COMFORTABLE PLACE TO BE BECAUSE 21:18.144 --> 21:21.412 COMFORTABLE PLACE TO BE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR MORE INDEPENDENCE. 21:21.414 --> 21:27.752 IT ALLOWS FOR MORE INDEPENDENCE. YOU -- IN THE HOUSE, THE RULES 21:27.754 --> 21:32.857 YOU -- IN THE HOUSE, THE RULES ARE REALLY SET UP TO PROTECT THE 21:32.859 --> 21:35.559 ARE REALLY SET UP TO PROTECT THE MAJORITY AND THE SENATE IS SET 21:35.561 --> 21:38.863 MAJORITY AND THE SENATE IS SET UP TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUAL. 21:38.865 --> 21:42.466 UP TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUAL. >> WHAT DIFFERENCES WILL THERE 21:42.468 --> 21:42.733 >> WHAT DIFFERENCES WILL THERE BE. 21:42.735 --> 21:43.567 BE. >> CURRENTLY WE'RE IN THE 21:43.569 --> 21:45.670 >> CURRENTLY WE'RE IN THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND GOING 21:45.672 --> 21:47.405 MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND GOING INTO A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL 21:47.407 --> 21:48.372 INTO A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL MINORITY IN THE SENATE. 21:48.374 --> 21:50.908 MINORITY IN THE SENATE. BUT THE WAY THE SENATE RULES ARE 21:50.910 --> 21:53.144 BUT THE WAY THE SENATE RULES ARE SET UP, SOMEBODY IN THE MINORITY 21:53.146 --> 21:55.212 SET UP, SOMEBODY IN THE MINORITY CAN HAVE PROBABLY A LOT MORE 21:55.214 --> 21:57.148 CAN HAVE PROBABLY A LOT MORE LEVERAGE THAN YOU CAN IN THE 21:57.150 --> 21:57.715 LEVERAGE THAN YOU CAN IN THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE. 21:57.717 --> 21:59.350 MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE. I'M SORRY IN THE SENATE. 21:59.352 --> 22:02.687 I'M SORRY IN THE SENATE. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. 22:02.689 --> 22:04.055 SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT 22:04.057 --> 22:05.890 THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE SENATE WILL CHANGE 22:05.892 --> 22:09.627 WHETHER THE SENATE WILL CHANGE THE RULES, HOLD A SO-CALLED 22:09.629 --> 22:10.995 THE RULES, HOLD A SO-CALLED NUCLEAR OPTION WHICH WOULD 22:10.997 --> 22:12.596 NUCLEAR OPTION WHICH WOULD BASICALLY GET RID OF THE 22:12.598 --> 22:14.632 BASICALLY GET RID OF THE FILIBUSTER ON A MOTION TO 22:14.634 --> 22:16.767 FILIBUSTER ON A MOTION TO PROCEED TO A BILL, I REALLY HOPE 22:16.769 --> 22:18.069 PROCEED TO A BILL, I REALLY HOPE THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT. 22:18.071 --> 22:21.005 THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT. WHEN REPUBLICANS WERE TRYING TO 22:21.007 --> 22:23.741 WHEN REPUBLICANS WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR A FEW YEARS 22:23.743 --> 22:27.645 DO SOMETHING SIMILAR A FEW YEARS AGO, I THOUGHT IT WAS AN AWFUL 22:27.647 --> 22:27.945 AGO, I THOUGHT IT WAS AN AWFUL IDEA. 22:27.947 --> 22:28.879 IDEA. I THINK IT'S AWFUL IDEA FOR THE 22:28.881 --> 22:30.514 I THINK IT'S AWFUL IDEA FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO DO IT NOW. 22:30.516 --> 22:33.651 DEMOCRATS TO DO IT NOW. THIS IS AN INSTITUTION THAT HAS 22:33.653 --> 22:35.286 THIS IS AN INSTITUTION THAT HAS RULES THAT DATE BACK TO THE 22:35.288 --> 22:36.220 RULES THAT DATE BACK TO THE GOWNEDING. 22:36.222 --> 22:38.689 GOWNEDING. AND WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE THOSE 22:38.691 --> 22:39.757 AND WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE THOSE RULES LIKE THAT. 22:39.759 --> 22:42.426 RULES LIKE THAT. >> THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER 22:42.428 --> 22:44.528 >> THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER LAWS THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SEEM 22:44.530 --> 22:47.231 LAWS THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SEEM ARCAIN OR EVEN ARCHAIC. 22:47.233 --> 22:50.968 ARCAIN OR EVEN ARCHAIC. THE SECRET HOLD ON APPOINTMENTS, 22:50.970 --> 22:57.341 THE SECRET HOLD ON APPOINTMENTS, SENATOR IS ALLOWED TO DO THAT. 22:57.343 --> 23:01.078 SENATOR IS ALLOWED TO DO THAT. AND THE SEN YORT SYSTEM THAT 23:01.080 --> 23:02.179 AND THE SEN YORT SYSTEM THAT CERTAINLY DON'T WORK IN YOUR 23:02.181 --> 23:03.714 CERTAINLY DON'T WORK IN YOUR FAVRE NOW. 23:03.716 --> 23:10.287 FAVRE NOW. >> THERE'S -- I THINK THAT THE 23:10.289 --> 23:12.857 >> THERE'S -- I THINK THAT THE SECRET HOLD IS OFTEN ABUSED BY 23:12.859 --> 23:13.624 SECRET HOLD IS OFTEN ABUSED BY BOTH PARTIES. 23:13.626 --> 23:16.627 BOTH PARTIES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF I 23:16.629 --> 23:19.830 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF I HAVE A LAR CONCERN -- A WHOLE 23:19.832 --> 23:21.899 HAVE A LAR CONCERN -- A WHOLE POLICY ISSUE, I'LL LET I BE 23:21.901 --> 23:22.199 POLICY ISSUE, I'LL LET I BE DONE. 23:22.201 --> 23:23.968 DONE. I INTEND TO MAKE THOSE PUBLIC. 23:23.970 --> 23:26.771 I INTEND TO MAKE THOSE PUBLIC. SO I THINK THAT IT CAN BE 23:26.773 --> 23:31.075 SO I THINK THAT IT CAN BE ABUSED, HAS BEEN ABUSED. 23:31.077 --> 23:33.944 ABUSED, HAS BEEN ABUSED. SO THESE KIND OF RULES THAT 23:33.946 --> 23:35.112 SO THESE KIND OF RULES THAT ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE 23:35.114 --> 23:35.813 ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE PERHAPS MORE POWER OR ON THE 23:35.815 --> 23:43.020 PERHAPS MORE POWER OR ON THE WHOLE GOOD. 23:43.022 --> 23:45.489 WHOLE GOOD. >> THIS -- THAT FOLLOWS ABOUT 23:45.491 --> 23:47.825 >> THIS -- THAT FOLLOWS ABOUT TEN YEARS OF HOUSE ON THE 23:47.827 --> 23:51.028 TEN YEARS OF HOUSE ON THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. 23:51.030 --> 23:54.899 FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. ALSO THE ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT 23:54.901 --> 23:55.433 ALSO THE ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT C 23:55.435 --> 23:57.835 C COMMITTEES OUR PUBLIC WORKS, 23:57.837 --> 23:59.970 COMMITTEES OUR PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC LAND USE IS OBVIOUSLY 23:59.972 --> 24:01.238 PUBLIC LAND USE IS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT TO ARIZONA. 24:01.240 --> 24:03.207 VERY IMPORTANT TO ARIZONA. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE 24:03.209 --> 24:04.975 AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A SAY ON ENERGY POWER 24:04.977 --> 24:06.610 A SAY ON ENERGY POWER GENERATION, MINERAL EXTRACTION, 24:06.612 --> 24:07.878 GENERATION, MINERAL EXTRACTION, THESE KINDS OF THINGS. 24:07.880 --> 24:08.746 THESE KINDS OF THINGS. SO THAT COMMITTEE WILL BE GOOD 24:08.748 --> 24:09.580 SO THAT COMMITTEE WILL BE GOOD FOR THAT. 24:09.582 --> 24:12.183 FOR THAT. I'LL ALSO SIT ON THE JUDICIARY 24:12.185 --> 24:13.751 I'LL ALSO SIT ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, AND OBVIOUSLY IN THE 24:13.753 --> 24:16.487 COMMITTEE, AND OBVIOUSLY IN THE SENATE, I WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY 24:16.489 --> 24:19.356 SENATE, I WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE ADVISE AND CONSENT ON 24:19.358 --> 24:21.058 TO PROVIDE ADVISE AND CONSENT ON MOM KNEES. 24:21.060 --> 24:24.695 MOM KNEES. AND THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 24:24.697 --> 24:26.063 AND THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. OBVIOUSLY NOMINATION MOVES 24:26.065 --> 24:27.998 OBVIOUSLY NOMINATION MOVES THROUGH THE ELECTION ISSUES. 24:28.000 --> 24:29.400 THROUGH THE ELECTION ISSUES. SO WE'RE DOING TO BE BUSY. 24:29.402 --> 24:33.871 SO WE'RE DOING TO BE BUSY. >> WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO YOU SEE 24:33.873 --> 24:36.674 >> WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO YOU SEE AS PART OF YOUR AGENDA IN THE 24:36.676 --> 24:38.008 AS PART OF YOUR AGENDA IN THE WORK OF THOSE CITIES? 24:38.010 --> 24:40.678 WORK OF THOSE CITIES? >> WITH REGARD TO FOREIGN 24:40.680 --> 24:43.214 >> WITH REGARD TO FOREIGN AFFAIRS, I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF 24:43.216 --> 24:47.751 AFFAIRS, I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF FREE TRADE, I HOPE WE CAN ENTER 24:47.753 --> 24:50.654 FREE TRADE, I HOPE WE CAN ENTER INTO SOME FREE TRADE TREATMENT, 24:50.656 --> 24:52.423 INTO SOME FREE TRADE TREATMENT, I THINK WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 24:52.425 --> 24:54.325 I THINK WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN POLICY WORK IN AFGHANISTAN, I 24:54.327 --> 24:56.460 POLICY WORK IN AFGHANISTAN, I JUST RETURNED FROM AFGHANISTAN, 24:56.462 --> 24:57.495 JUST RETURNED FROM AFGHANISTAN, THE MIDDLE EAST AS WELL. 24:57.497 --> 24:59.697 THE MIDDLE EAST AS WELL. I SPENT A COUPLE OF YEARS IN 24:59.699 --> 25:01.632 I SPENT A COUPLE OF YEARS IN AFRICA, I EXPECT TO BE ON THE 25:01.634 --> 25:02.633 AFRICA, I EXPECT TO BE ON THE AFRICA SUBCOMMITTEE THERE. 25:02.635 --> 25:04.201 AFRICA SUBCOMMITTEE THERE. AND OBVIOUSLY SOME THINGS ARE 25:04.203 --> 25:05.903 AND OBVIOUSLY SOME THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN NORTH AFRICA RIGHT 25:05.905 --> 25:07.037 HAPPENING IN NORTH AFRICA RIGHT NOW THAT ARE A BIT DANGEROUS. 25:07.039 --> 25:09.907 NOW THAT ARE A BIT DANGEROUS. SO THERE'S ALWAYS A FULL PLATE 25:09.909 --> 25:12.443 SO THERE'S ALWAYS A FULL PLATE ON THE FOREIGN POLICY SIDE. 25:12.445 --> 25:14.311 ON THE FOREIGN POLICY SIDE. WITH REGARD TO SWRU DISH AREA, I 25:14.313 --> 25:16.313 WITH REGARD TO SWRU DISH AREA, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED OBVIOUSLY 25:16.315 --> 25:18.249 HAVE BEEN INVOLVED OBVIOUSLY INNISM GRAGS REFORM IN ALL MY 25:18.251 --> 25:20.518 INNISM GRAGS REFORM IN ALL MY TIME AT THE HOUSE AND I INTEND 25:20.520 --> 25:23.020 TIME AT THE HOUSE AND I INTEND TO CONTINUE THAT INTO THE SENATE 25:23.022 --> 25:25.322 TO CONTINUE THAT INTO THE SENATE AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PRESIDENT 25:25.324 --> 25:27.391 AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PRESIDENT SAYING HE'S WILLING AND READY TO 25:27.393 --> 25:28.926 SAYING HE'S WILLING AND READY TO MOVE AHEAD, I HOPE THAT HE IS 25:28.928 --> 25:30.394 MOVE AHEAD, I HOPE THAT HE IS AND I HOPE THE HOUSE AND THE 25:30.396 --> 25:31.428 AND I HOPE THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE ARE AS WELL. 25:31.430 --> 25:34.064 SENATE ARE AS WELL. >> TELL US WHAT ADVICE YOU GOT 25:34.066 --> 25:36.934 >> TELL US WHAT ADVICE YOU GOT FROM YOUR PREDECESSOR JOHN KYLE? 25:36.936 --> 25:41.138 FROM YOUR PREDECESSOR JOHN KYLE? >> HE SAYS REMEMBER WHO ELECTED 25:41.140 --> 25:43.908 >> HE SAYS REMEMBER WHO ELECTED YOU AND REMEMBER TO GET AROUND, 25:43.910 --> 25:46.377 YOU AND REMEMBER TO GET AROUND, JOHN KYLE DID SO MUCH GOOD WORK 25:46.379 --> 25:50.147 JOHN KYLE DID SO MUCH GOOD WORK ON THE ISSUES THAT MAKE ARIZONA, 25:50.149 --> 25:52.349 ON THE ISSUES THAT MAKE ARIZONA, ARIZONA, WE'RE ABOUT 845% 25:52.351 --> 25:54.485 ARIZONA, WE'RE ABOUT 845% PUBLICLY OWNED AND ALL THE LAND 25:54.487 --> 25:56.954 PUBLICLY OWNED AND ALL THE LAND ISSUES THAT BRING ISSUES LIKE 25:56.956 --> 26:01.892 ISSUES THAT BRING ISSUES LIKE PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY TO THE 26:01.894 --> 26:02.826 PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY TO THE SHORE. 26:02.828 --> 26:03.928 SHORE. WATER MANAGEMENT, THAT'S A HEAVY 26:03.930 --> 26:09.166 WATER MANAGEMENT, THAT'S A HEAVY LIFT. 26:09.168 --> 26:11.035 LIFT. AND TO GET AROUND THE STATE AND 26:11.037 --> 26:13.404 AND TO GET AROUND THE STATE AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT 26:13.406 --> 26:15.773 MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND GET A GOOD 26:15.775 --> 26:16.574 YOU'RE DOING AND GET A GOOD STAFF TOGETHER. 26:16.576 --> 26:20.578 STAFF TOGETHER. THAT UNDERSTAND THESE ISSUES AND 26:20.580 --> 26:22.246 THAT UNDERSTAND THESE ISSUES AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THAT. 26:22.248 --> 26:28.252 WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THAT. AND I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO 26:28.254 --> 26:29.920 AND I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO FINISHING SOME OF THE 26:29.922 --> 26:31.021 FINISHING SOME OF THE INITIATIVES HE'S BEGUN. 26:31.023 --> 26:33.958 INITIATIVES HE'S BEGUN. >> AND CONSIDERING JOHN McCAIN, 26:33.960 --> 26:34.425 >> AND CONSIDERING JOHN McCAIN, YOUR -- 26:34.427 --> 26:36.293 YOUR -- >> WELL, I TELL YOU, THE LONGER 26:36.295 --> 26:38.529 >> WELL, I TELL YOU, THE LONGER I'M IN WASHINGTON, THE MORE 26:38.531 --> 26:40.130 I'M IN WASHINGTON, THE MORE RESPECT I HAVE FOR SOME OF THE 26:40.132 --> 26:42.066 RESPECT I HAVE FOR SOME OF THE STANTDS THAT JOHN McCAIN HAS 26:42.068 --> 26:43.968 STANTDS THAT JOHN McCAIN HAS TAKEN OVER THE YEARS, 26:43.970 --> 26:46.136 TAKEN OVER THE YEARS, PARTICULARLY ON SPENDING, AND 26:46.138 --> 26:46.470 PARTICULARLY ON SPENDING, AND DEFICIT. 26:46.472 --> 26:48.272 DEFICIT. HE HAS STOOD UP TIME AND TIME 26:48.274 --> 26:48.572 HE HAS STOOD UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN. 26:48.574 --> 26:50.674 AGAIN. LET ME TELL YOU, IT WEARS ON 26:50.676 --> 26:52.209 LET ME TELL YOU, IT WEARS ON YOU, EITHER IN THE HOUSE OR THE 26:52.211 --> 26:52.543 YOU, EITHER IN THE HOUSE OR THE SENATE. 26:52.545 --> 26:55.980 SENATE. HE'S DONE IT FOR A LONG TIME. 26:55.982 --> 26:59.049 HE'S DONE IT FOR A LONG TIME. HIS ADVICE IS TO TAKE SOME OF 26:59.051 --> 27:00.818 HIS ADVICE IS TO TAKE SOME OF THE POSITIONS WITH REGARD TO 27:00.820 --> 27:02.987 THE POSITIONS WITH REGARD TO HOUSE WITH REGARD TO SPENDING 27:02.989 --> 27:05.189 HOUSE WITH REGARD TO SPENDING AND DEBT AND DEFICIT AND WORK ON 27:05.191 --> 27:06.156 AND DEBT AND DEFICIT AND WORK ON THOSE IN THE SENATE. 27:06.158 --> 27:09.259 THOSE IN THE SENATE. >> MY FULL UNEDITED INTERVIEW 27:09.261 --> 27:14.431 >> MY FULL UNEDITED INTERVIEW WITH SENATOR FLAKE IS ON YOUR 27:14.433 --> 27:18.433 WITH SENATOR FLAKE IS ON YOUR WEBSITE, A.