WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.574 >>> A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR 00:08.576 --> 00:09.074 THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR ARIZONA GOVERNOR. 00:09.076 --> 00:13.679 ARIZONA GOVERNOR. >> CRITICAL MOMENT IN THE STATE 00:13.681 --> 00:15.514 >> CRITICAL MOMENT IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND I LOVE THIS 00:15.516 --> 00:15.814 OF ARIZONA AND I LOVE THIS STATE. 00:15.816 --> 00:17.483 STATE. I BELIEVE THIS IS A PIONEERING 00:17.485 --> 00:17.883 I BELIEVE THIS IS A PIONEERING STATE. 00:17.885 --> 00:19.651 STATE. WHEN I GREW UP HERE IN TUCSON, 00:19.653 --> 00:20.285 WHEN I GREW UP HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA WAS A PLACE THAT 00:20.287 --> 00:21.453 ARIZONA WAS A PLACE THAT EVERYONE WANTED TO COME. 00:21.455 --> 00:23.288 EVERYONE WANTED TO COME. BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE. 00:23.290 --> 00:24.423 BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE. >> AND THE REPORTER ROUNDTABLE 00:24.425 --> 00:28.861 >> AND THE REPORTER ROUNDTABLE WITH AN ANALYSIS OF THE UPCOMING 00:28.863 --> 00:29.161 WITH AN ANALYSIS OF THE UPCOMING RACE. 00:29.163 --> 00:31.530 RACE. >> THAT PRIMARY, THAT DUCEY JUST 00:31.532 --> 00:32.798 >> THAT PRIMARY, THAT DUCEY JUST WON, THAT WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. 00:32.800 --> 00:33.899 WON, THAT WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. A LOT OF MUD SLINGING. 00:33.901 --> 00:35.434 A LOT OF MUD SLINGING. I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE 00:35.436 --> 00:37.236 I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE ALL THAT MUCH AS WE HEAD TOWARDS 00:37.238 --> 00:37.603 ALL THAT MUCH AS WE HEAD TOWARDS NOVEMBER. 00:37.605 --> 00:44.710 NOVEMBER. >> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 00:44.712 --> 00:45.310 >> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." FRED DuVAL IS ARIZONA'S 00:45.312 --> 00:50.382 FRED DuVAL IS ARIZONA'S DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR 00:50.384 --> 00:50.749 DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR. 00:50.751 --> 00:52.618 GOVERNOR. TWO MONTHS UNTIL VOTERS HEAD TO 00:52.620 --> 00:54.219 TWO MONTHS UNTIL VOTERS HEAD TO THE POLLS, HE IS ON THE CAMPAIGN 00:54.221 --> 00:57.556 THE POLLS, HE IS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND MAKING STOPS ALL OVER 00:57.558 --> 00:58.157 TRAIL AND MAKING STOPS ALL OVER THE STATE, INCLUDING AN 00:58.159 --> 00:58.857 THE STATE, INCLUDING AN INTERVIEW WITH ARIZONA PUBLIC 00:58.859 --> 01:02.494 INTERVIEW WITH ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA STUDIOS IN TUCSON. 01:02.496 --> 01:04.763 MEDIA STUDIOS IN TUCSON. FRED DuVAL, DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE 01:04.765 --> 01:08.667 FRED DuVAL, DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR 01:08.669 --> 01:09.068 FOR GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 01:09.070 --> 01:09.735 BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 01:09.737 --> 01:10.769 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> LET'S GET TO IT. 01:10.771 --> 01:15.107 >> LET'S GET TO IT. ONE OF YOUR MAJOR PLATFORMS IS 01:15.109 --> 01:15.474 ONE OF YOUR MAJOR PLATFORMS IS EDUCATION. 01:15.476 --> 01:16.141 EDUCATION. YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 01:16.143 --> 01:16.875 YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THIS STATE. 01:16.877 --> 01:17.543 EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THIS STATE. >> WE HAVE TO STOP THE CUTS. 01:17.545 --> 01:18.243 >> WE HAVE TO STOP THE CUTS. WE CUT DEEPER THAN ANY OTHER 01:18.245 --> 01:25.984 WE CUT DEEPER THAN ANY OTHER STATE IN THE UNITED STATES AND 01:25.986 --> 01:26.718 STATE IN THE UNITED STATES AND WE HAVE NOW SEEN THE RESULTS OF 01:26.720 --> 01:27.152 WE HAVE NOW SEEN THE RESULTS OF THAT DECISION. 01:27.154 --> 01:27.786 THAT DECISION. WE LOSE ONE-THIRD OF THE 01:27.788 --> 01:28.754 WE LOSE ONE-THIRD OF THE TEACHERS EVERY YEAR. 01:28.756 --> 01:30.589 TEACHERS EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE THE LARGEST CLASS SIZES 01:30.591 --> 01:34.393 WE HAVE THE LARGEST CLASS SIZES IN THE UNITED STATES. 01:34.395 --> 01:35.027 IN THE UNITED STATES. THESE ARE NOT OPTIMAL FOR 01:35.029 --> 01:35.761 THESE ARE NOT OPTIMAL FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT ACROSS EVERY 01:35.763 --> 01:36.095 STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT ACROSS EVERY SCHOOL. 01:36.097 --> 01:37.296 SCHOOL. WE'RE BALKANIZING THE SYSTEM. 01:37.298 --> 01:38.230 WE'RE BALKANIZING THE SYSTEM. SOME HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY THAN 01:38.232 --> 01:38.564 SOME HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY THAN OTHERS. 01:38.566 --> 01:42.101 OTHERS. I'M IN FAVOR OF A CHOICE 01:42.103 --> 01:42.501 I'M IN FAVOR OF A CHOICE ENVIRONMENT. 01:42.503 --> 01:43.735 ENVIRONMENT. I THINK PARENTS SHOULD HAVE A 01:43.737 --> 01:44.937 I THINK PARENTS SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE, BUT A GOOD CHOICE AND A 01:44.939 --> 01:47.039 CHOICE, BUT A GOOD CHOICE AND A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE KIND 01:47.041 --> 01:48.440 GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE KIND OF EDUCATION WE WANT. 01:48.442 --> 01:50.042 OF EDUCATION WE WANT. SO WE HAVE THE SKILL SETS FOR 01:50.044 --> 01:51.310 SO WE HAVE THE SKILL SETS FOR THE CHILDREN OF THE FUTURE. 01:51.312 --> 01:53.045 THE CHILDREN OF THE FUTURE. >> WHEN IT COMES TO 01:53.047 --> 01:54.480 >> WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS HOW DO YOU 01:54.482 --> 01:56.115 SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS HOW DO YOU COMPARE TO KIDS IN BORDER TOWNS 01:56.117 --> 01:58.484 COMPARE TO KIDS IN BORDER TOWNS LIKE DOUGLAS AND HOW DO THEY GET 01:58.486 --> 01:59.418 LIKE DOUGLAS AND HOW DO THEY GET EDUCATION IN THE PREMIERE 01:59.420 --> 02:00.719 EDUCATION IN THE PREMIERE SCHOOLS IN THE PHOENIX AREA? 02:00.721 --> 02:01.453 SCHOOLS IN THE PHOENIX AREA? >> IT'S A TOUGH AREA, AND SCHOOL 02:01.455 --> 02:02.187 >> IT'S A TOUGH AREA, AND SCHOOL EQUALIZATION, WE HAVE TO ENSURE 02:02.189 --> 02:06.658 EQUALIZATION, WE HAVE TO ENSURE WE CAN KEEP GOOD TEACHERS AND 02:06.660 --> 02:07.292 WE CAN KEEP GOOD TEACHERS AND HAVE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE 02:07.294 --> 02:07.659 HAVE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE EFFECTIVE. 02:07.661 --> 02:09.094 EFFECTIVE. IT IS REALLY THE TEACHER 02:09.096 --> 02:12.865 IT IS REALLY THE TEACHER SITUATION IS REALLY I WANT TO 02:12.867 --> 02:13.599 SITUATION IS REALLY I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE-THIRD OF THE 02:13.601 --> 02:15.467 EMPHASIZE ONE-THIRD OF THE TEACHERS EVERY YEAR. 02:15.469 --> 02:16.835 TEACHERS EVERY YEAR. THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS 02:16.837 --> 02:17.503 THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS DESCRIBE SEVENTH GRADE MATH 02:17.505 --> 02:20.606 DESCRIBE SEVENTH GRADE MATH WHERE THEY CAN'T GET A MATH 02:20.608 --> 02:21.340 WHERE THEY CAN'T GET A MATH TEACHER, SO THEY GET SUBSTITUTE 02:21.342 --> 02:21.907 TEACHER, SO THEY GET SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS BY THE WEEK. 02:21.909 --> 02:22.441 TEACHERS BY THE WEEK. DIFFERENT TEACHERS. 02:22.443 --> 02:25.611 DIFFERENT TEACHERS. REALLY NOT IDEAL AT ALL. 02:25.613 --> 02:26.345 REALLY NOT IDEAL AT ALL. AND RURAL ARIZONA IS 02:26.347 --> 02:26.945 AND RURAL ARIZONA IS PARTICULARLY CHALLENGED. 02:26.947 --> 02:29.781 PARTICULARLY CHALLENGED. THE FUNDING FORMULA IS NOT FAIR 02:29.783 --> 02:30.849 THE FUNDING FORMULA IS NOT FAIR TO THEM ON THAT END. 02:30.851 --> 02:33.685 TO THEM ON THAT END. I THINK THAT TALENT IS EQUALLY 02:33.687 --> 02:38.190 I THINK THAT TALENT IS EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED, BUT OPPORTUNITY IS 02:38.192 --> 02:38.457 DISTRIBUTED, BUT OPPORTUNITY IS NOT. 02:38.459 --> 02:39.124 NOT. OUR REAL GOOD IS HOW DO YOU 02:39.126 --> 02:39.791 OUR REAL GOOD IS HOW DO YOU CLOSE THE GAP SO THAT EVERY 02:39.793 --> 02:40.859 CLOSE THE GAP SO THAT EVERY CHILD NO MATTER WHERE THEY START 02:40.861 --> 02:42.427 CHILD NO MATTER WHERE THEY START IN LIFE HAS THE FULL OPPORTUNITY 02:42.429 --> 02:43.529 IN LIFE HAS THE FULL OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEIR GOD GIVEN TALENTS 02:43.531 --> 02:44.229 TO BRING THEIR GOD GIVEN TALENTS INTO OUR ECONOMY AND INTO OUR 02:44.231 --> 02:44.563 INTO OUR ECONOMY AND INTO OUR LIVES. 02:44.565 --> 02:51.703 LIVES. >> HOW DO YOU CONVINCE RECENT 02:51.705 --> 02:53.972 >> HOW DO YOU CONVINCE RECENT GRADUATES OF THE ARIZONA 02:53.974 --> 02:56.175 GRADUATES OF THE ARIZONA UNIVERSITIES TO GO AND LIVE IN 02:56.177 --> 02:56.608 UNIVERSITIES TO GO AND LIVE IN REMOTE AREAS? 02:56.610 --> 02:57.309 REMOTE AREAS? >> IT'S A CHALLENGE IN RURAL 02:57.311 --> 03:00.979 >> IT'S A CHALLENGE IN RURAL AREAS BUT WHAT'S A BIGGER 03:00.981 --> 03:01.914 AREAS BUT WHAT'S A BIGGER CHALLENGE THAN THAT IS EVEN 03:01.916 --> 03:02.714 CHALLENGE THAN THAT IS EVEN STAYING IN ARIZONA. 03:02.716 --> 03:04.917 STAYING IN ARIZONA. I WAS AT A CLEAR HERE OF U OF A, 03:04.919 --> 03:06.718 I WAS AT A CLEAR HERE OF U OF A, I ASKED HOW MANY OF YOU LIVE 03:06.720 --> 03:07.286 I ASKED HOW MANY OF YOU LIVE HERE -- ARE FROM ADD? 03:07.288 --> 03:07.819 HERE -- ARE FROM ADD? TWO-THIRDS SAID YES. 03:07.821 --> 03:08.554 TWO-THIRDS SAID YES. THEN I SAID HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE 03:08.556 --> 03:11.990 THEN I SAID HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO STAY HERE 03:11.992 --> 03:16.061 MADE THE COMMITMENT TO STAY HERE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES? 03:16.063 --> 03:16.595 FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES? THREE HANDS WENT UP. 03:16.597 --> 03:17.296 THREE HANDS WENT UP. I CALLED THE BOARD OF REGENTS 03:17.298 --> 03:18.197 I CALLED THE BOARD OF REGENTS WHERE I USED TO SERVE AS 03:18.199 --> 03:19.898 WHERE I USED TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT 03:19.900 --> 03:21.700 CHAIRMAN, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE DEPARTURE RATE OF GRADUATES? 03:21.702 --> 03:22.868 THE DEPARTURE RATE OF GRADUATES? IT'S BECOMING A RECORD LEVEL. 03:22.870 --> 03:27.139 IT'S BECOMING A RECORD LEVEL. SO WE'RE LOSING TALENT NOT JUST 03:27.141 --> 03:27.873 SO WE'RE LOSING TALENT NOT JUST A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT 03:27.875 --> 03:28.607 A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT HELPS REVITALIZE RURAL ARIZONA, 03:28.609 --> 03:29.441 HELPS REVITALIZE RURAL ARIZONA, BUT WHETHER WE CAN KEEP IT IN 03:29.443 --> 03:30.409 BUT WHETHER WE CAN KEEP IT IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA OR WHETHER 03:30.411 --> 03:31.109 THE STATE OF ARIZONA OR WHETHER THEY'RE JUST COMPELLED BY THE 03:31.111 --> 03:31.777 THEY'RE JUST COMPELLED BY THE STRONGER ECONOMIES OF OTHER 03:31.779 --> 03:32.511 STRONGER ECONOMIES OF OTHER PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES AND 03:32.513 --> 03:34.446 PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THIS LONG TERM BRAIN DRAIN AND 03:34.448 --> 03:35.614 THIS LONG TERM BRAIN DRAIN AND TALENT DRAIN IS GOING TO CAUSE 03:35.616 --> 03:38.650 TALENT DRAIN IS GOING TO CAUSE LONG TERM LOSS OF JOBS, LOSS OF 03:38.652 --> 03:43.655 LONG TERM LOSS OF JOBS, LOSS OF GROWTH, LOSS OF OPPORTUNITY AND 03:43.657 --> 03:45.057 GROWTH, LOSS OF OPPORTUNITY AND I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. 03:45.059 --> 03:46.825 I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. >> HOW DO YOU CONVINCE THE 03:46.827 --> 03:47.626 >> HOW DO YOU CONVINCE THE LEGISLATURE TO START SPENDING 03:47.628 --> 03:49.761 LEGISLATURE TO START SPENDING MORE MONEY ON EDUCATION? 03:49.763 --> 03:52.097 MORE MONEY ON EDUCATION? >> THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS 03:52.099 --> 03:52.464 >> THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS CRITICAL. 03:52.466 --> 03:54.099 CRITICAL. I MAKE PRO -- I'M A PRO BUSINESS 03:54.101 --> 03:54.366 I MAKE PRO -- I'M A PRO BUSINESS GUY. 03:54.368 --> 03:55.767 GUY. WE HAVE TO GROW THE BUSINESS 03:55.769 --> 03:59.705 WE HAVE TO GROW THE BUSINESS ECONOMY IN ARIZONA. 03:59.707 --> 04:00.472 ECONOMY IN ARIZONA. I MEAN, COMPETITIVE TAX RATE. 04:00.474 --> 04:01.707 I MEAN, COMPETITIVE TAX RATE. REASONABLE REGULATORY SCHEME. 04:01.709 --> 04:03.375 REASONABLE REGULATORY SCHEME. BUT PROVIDING THE WORKFORCE THAT 04:03.377 --> 04:04.776 BUT PROVIDING THE WORKFORCE THAT WE NEED AND THE BUSINESS 04:04.778 --> 04:08.847 WE NEED AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS THE FIRST NOW TO 04:08.849 --> 04:09.548 COMMUNITY IS THE FIRST NOW TO STEP UP AND SAY WE NEED MORE 04:09.550 --> 04:12.050 STEP UP AND SAY WE NEED MORE COLLEGE GRADUATES, WE NEED MORE 04:12.052 --> 04:13.485 COLLEGE GRADUATES, WE NEED MORE COMMUNITY COLLEGE GRADUATES WITH 04:13.487 --> 04:14.319 COMMUNITY COLLEGE GRADUATES WITH SKILLS TO COMPETE. 04:14.321 --> 04:15.287 SKILLS TO COMPETE. AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS 04:15.289 --> 04:16.855 AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS NOW READY TO SAY THAT'S OUR 04:16.857 --> 04:17.923 NOW READY TO SAY THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN ARIZONA. 04:17.925 --> 04:19.024 NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN ARIZONA. I AGREE WITH THAT. 04:19.026 --> 04:22.995 I AGREE WITH THAT. >> MOVING ON TO HIGHER EDUCATION 04:22.997 --> 04:23.729 >> MOVING ON TO HIGHER EDUCATION DURING YOUR TIME WITH THE BOARD 04:23.731 --> 04:25.030 DURING YOUR TIME WITH THE BOARD OF REGENTS, A NEW AD SAYS IT'S 04:25.032 --> 04:26.932 OF REGENTS, A NEW AD SAYS IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU THAT WE HAD 04:26.934 --> 04:27.599 BECAUSE OF YOU THAT WE HAD HIGHER TUITION FOR COLLEGE 04:27.601 --> 04:28.233 HIGHER TUITION FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS DURING THAT TIME. 04:28.235 --> 04:28.900 STUDENTS DURING THAT TIME. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? 04:28.902 --> 04:35.641 HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? >> WE TOOK $400 MILLION OF CUTS 04:35.643 --> 04:36.742 >> WE TOOK $400 MILLION OF CUTS IN ONE YEAR. 04:36.744 --> 04:37.709 IN ONE YEAR. IT WAS DEVASTATING. 04:37.711 --> 04:38.944 IT WAS DEVASTATING. PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID, LET'S 04:38.946 --> 04:41.146 PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID, LET'S CLOSE CAMPUSES. 04:41.148 --> 04:45.384 CLOSE CAMPUSES. LET'S TELL STUDENTS THAT JUST A 04:45.386 --> 04:46.118 LET'S TELL STUDENTS THAT JUST A COUPLE OF COURSES SHORT OF THEIR 04:46.120 --> 04:46.818 COUPLE OF COURSES SHORT OF THEIR DEGREE, SORRY WE'RE GOING TO 04:46.820 --> 04:47.552 DEGREE, SORRY WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE DOOR ON YOU. 04:47.554 --> 04:51.890 CLOSE THE DOOR ON YOU. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. 04:51.892 --> 04:52.591 WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. WE SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO 04:52.593 --> 04:52.891 WE SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. 04:52.893 --> 04:53.625 THAT. WE SAID WE'LL CUT DEEPLY AND WE 04:53.627 --> 04:53.892 WE SAID WE'LL CUT DEEPLY AND WE DID. 04:53.894 --> 04:55.560 DID. WE CUT A DOLLAR OUT OF 04:55.562 --> 04:55.961 WE CUT A DOLLAR OUT OF OPERATIONS. 04:55.963 --> 04:56.662 OPERATIONS. YOU CAN TALK THE FOLKS AROUND 04:56.664 --> 04:57.362 YOU CAN TALK THE FOLKS AROUND THE U OF A AND OTHER CAMPUSES. 04:57.364 --> 04:57.963 THE U OF A AND OTHER CAMPUSES. DEVASTATING, DEEP CUTS. 04:57.965 --> 05:02.467 DEVASTATING, DEEP CUTS. BUT OUR BASIC PRINCIPAL IS WE'LL 05:02.469 --> 05:03.769 BUT OUR BASIC PRINCIPAL IS WE'LL KEEP THE DOORS OPEN. 05:03.771 --> 05:05.070 KEEP THE DOORS OPEN. WE INCREASED FINANCIAL AID 05:05.072 --> 05:05.504 WE INCREASED FINANCIAL AID DRAMATICALLY. 05:05.506 --> 05:06.204 DRAMATICALLY. INCREASED MORE FINANCIAL AID 05:06.206 --> 05:06.938 INCREASED MORE FINANCIAL AID THAN WE DID TUITION TO MAKE SURE 05:06.940 --> 05:11.510 THAN WE DID TUITION TO MAKE SURE THAT -- AND IN FACT THE DATA 05:11.512 --> 05:13.378 THAT -- AND IN FACT THE DATA SHOWS MORE MIDDLE AND LOWER 05:13.380 --> 05:14.780 SHOWS MORE MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASS KIDS THAT ARE GIFT AND 05:14.782 --> 05:16.114 CLASS KIDS THAT ARE GIFT AND SMART ARE IN OUR UNIVERSITIES 05:16.116 --> 05:17.149 SMART ARE IN OUR UNIVERSITIES TODAY THAN THEY WERE BEFORE. 05:17.151 --> 05:19.318 TODAY THAN THEY WERE BEFORE. SO WE SURVIVED THE CRISIS. 05:19.320 --> 05:20.886 SO WE SURVIVED THE CRISIS. WE HAD TO MAKE HARD CHOICES BOTH 05:20.888 --> 05:23.655 WE HAD TO MAKE HARD CHOICES BOTH IN THE CUTS AND IN THE TUITION. 05:23.657 --> 05:25.924 IN THE CUTS AND IN THE TUITION. WE HAD TO KEEP ACCESS OPEN. 05:25.926 --> 05:27.392 WE HAD TO KEEP ACCESS OPEN. I REALIZED THE TUITION RAISES 05:27.394 --> 05:28.093 I REALIZED THE TUITION RAISES HAVE GOT TO STOP. 05:28.095 --> 05:30.929 HAVE GOT TO STOP. AND SO I DESIGNED A NEW SYSTEM 05:30.931 --> 05:34.132 AND SO I DESIGNED A NEW SYSTEM CALLED AZ TRANSFER.COM WHICH IS 05:34.134 --> 05:35.334 CALLED AZ TRANSFER.COM WHICH IS A NOW A NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE 05:35.336 --> 05:37.035 A NOW A NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE AND ALLOWS STUDENTS TO TAKE 05:37.037 --> 05:37.903 AND ALLOWS STUDENTS TO TAKE CLASSES FROM BOTH UNIVERSITIES 05:37.905 --> 05:39.137 CLASSES FROM BOTH UNIVERSITIES AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 05:39.139 --> 05:41.073 AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES. GET THEIR DEGREE AT ONE-THIRD 05:41.075 --> 05:42.040 GET THEIR DEGREE AT ONE-THIRD LOWER COST. 05:42.042 --> 05:44.109 LOWER COST. AND AS CHAIRMAN OF THE REGENTS I 05:44.111 --> 05:45.711 AND AS CHAIRMAN OF THE REGENTS I PRODUCED THE FIRST ZERO TUITION 05:45.713 --> 05:46.378 PRODUCED THE FIRST ZERO TUITION INCREASE IN MODERN ARIZONA 05:46.380 --> 05:46.712 INCREASE IN MODERN ARIZONA HISTORY. 05:46.714 --> 05:47.412 HISTORY. SO WE MADE -- WE SURVIVED THE 05:47.414 --> 05:48.146 SO WE MADE -- WE SURVIVED THE CRISIS AND MADE LONG TERM CHANGE 05:48.148 --> 05:53.452 CRISIS AND MADE LONG TERM CHANGE TO ASSURE MORE PATHWAYS OF 05:53.454 --> 05:56.421 TO ASSURE MORE PATHWAYS OF ACCESS AT LOWER COST FOR MORE 05:56.423 --> 05:56.788 ACCESS AT LOWER COST FOR MORE STUDENTS. 05:56.790 --> 05:58.857 STUDENTS. >> DuVAL SERVED ON THE ARIZONA 05:58.859 --> 06:02.694 >> DuVAL SERVED ON THE ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS FROM 2006 TO 06:02.696 --> 06:02.994 BOARD OF REGENTS FROM 2006 TO 2012. 06:02.996 --> 06:05.263 2012. AND DURING THAT TIME, TUITION AT 06:05.265 --> 06:05.997 AND DURING THAT TIME, TUITION AT ARIZONA UNIVERSITIES 06:05.999 --> 06:07.165 ARIZONA UNIVERSITIES APPROXIMATELY DOUBLED. 06:07.167 --> 06:08.767 APPROXIMATELY DOUBLED. THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS 06:08.769 --> 06:10.435 THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION TOOK OUT AN AD 06:10.437 --> 06:11.837 ASSOCIATION TOOK OUT AN AD ATTACKING DuVAL FOR THOSE VOTES. 06:11.839 --> 06:14.706 ATTACKING DuVAL FOR THOSE VOTES. HE POINTS OUT THE STATE REDUCED 06:14.708 --> 06:15.540 HE POINTS OUT THE STATE REDUCED FUNDING TO ARIZONA UNIVERSITY 06:15.542 --> 06:17.342 FUNDING TO ARIZONA UNIVERSITY DURING THAT TIME PERIOD AS WELL. 06:17.344 --> 06:18.076 DURING THAT TIME PERIOD AS WELL. HERE'S MORE OF MY INTERVIEW WITH 06:18.078 --> 06:18.777 HERE'S MORE OF MY INTERVIEW WITH THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, FRED 06:18.779 --> 06:22.781 THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, FRED DuVAL. 06:22.783 --> 06:24.716 DuVAL. LET'S MOVE ON TO ARIZONA'S 06:24.718 --> 06:25.050 LET'S MOVE ON TO ARIZONA'S ECONOMY. 06:25.052 --> 06:25.751 ECONOMY. IT'S STRUGGLING, $800 MILLION 06:25.753 --> 06:26.251 IT'S STRUGGLING, $800 MILLION DEFICIT PROJECTED. 06:26.253 --> 06:31.323 DEFICIT PROJECTED. IT COULD GROW. 06:31.325 --> 06:33.692 IT COULD GROW. BEFORE YOU OR MR. DUCEY TAKES 06:33.694 --> 06:34.025 BEFORE YOU OR MR. DUCEY TAKES OFFICE. 06:34.027 --> 06:34.760 OFFICE. HOW DO YOU PLAN TO SHRINK THAT 06:34.762 --> 06:35.093 HOW DO YOU PLAN TO SHRINK THAT NUMBER? 06:35.095 --> 06:35.494 NUMBER? IT IS HUGE. 06:35.496 --> 06:35.927 IT IS HUGE. >> IT IS HUGE. 06:35.929 --> 06:39.398 >> IT IS HUGE. AND OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY IS NOT 06:39.400 --> 06:41.400 AND OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY IS NOT AT ALL WHAT WE'RE USED TO. 06:41.402 --> 06:43.201 AT ALL WHAT WE'RE USED TO. LET ME GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS 06:43.203 --> 06:43.869 LET ME GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS ABOUT THAT. 06:43.871 --> 06:45.604 ABOUT THAT. WE ARE ONE OF ONLY A HANDFUL OF 06:45.606 --> 06:48.473 WE ARE ONE OF ONLY A HANDFUL OF STATES THAT HASN'T REGAINED THE 06:48.475 --> 06:49.141 STATES THAT HASN'T REGAINED THE FULL ECONOMIC STRENGTH FROM 06:49.143 --> 06:50.208 FULL ECONOMIC STRENGTH FROM BEFORE THE RECESSION. 06:50.210 --> 06:51.576 BEFORE THE RECESSION. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE HAVE LOST 06:51.578 --> 06:52.277 WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE HAVE LOST MIDDLE CLASS WORKING FAMILY 06:52.279 --> 06:52.577 MIDDLE CLASS WORKING FAMILY JOBS. 06:52.579 --> 06:53.311 JOBS. WE HAVE INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE 06:53.313 --> 06:53.612 WE HAVE INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE JOBS. 06:53.614 --> 06:54.346 JOBS. MANY OF THE FOLKS MOVED FROM ONE 06:54.348 --> 06:57.015 MANY OF THE FOLKS MOVED FROM ONE TO TAKING TWO OF THE OTHER. 06:57.017 --> 06:57.716 TO TAKING TWO OF THE OTHER. AND SO THE ECONOMIC GROWTH IS 06:57.718 --> 06:58.183 AND SO THE ECONOMIC GROWTH IS REALLY STAGNANT. 06:58.185 --> 07:04.122 REALLY STAGNANT. AND THIS IS A LONG TERM 07:04.124 --> 07:04.823 AND THIS IS A LONG TERM CONTAMINANT ON OUR ABILITY TO 07:04.825 --> 07:05.323 CONTAMINANT ON OUR ABILITY TO GROW THE ECONOMY. 07:05.325 --> 07:05.991 GROW THE ECONOMY. WE NEED A NUMBER OF THINGS. 07:05.993 --> 07:10.328 WE NEED A NUMBER OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IN THE UNIVERSITY 07:10.330 --> 07:11.830 NUMBER ONE, IN THE UNIVERSITY SPACE AND IN THE RESEARCH AND 07:11.832 --> 07:13.498 SPACE AND IN THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT SPACE, WE NEED MORE 07:13.500 --> 07:14.299 DEVELOPMENT SPACE, WE NEED MORE INNOVATION, DISCOVERRY. 07:14.301 --> 07:16.601 INNOVATION, DISCOVERRY. WE NEED MORE ACTIVITY IN THE NEW 07:16.603 --> 07:17.302 WE NEED MORE ACTIVITY IN THE NEW PRODUCTS AND IDEAS THAT WILL 07:17.304 --> 07:18.036 PRODUCTS AND IDEAS THAT WILL DRIVE 21st CENTURY EXPORTS AND 07:18.038 --> 07:24.276 DRIVE 21st CENTURY EXPORTS AND CONSUMER PURCHASES. 07:24.278 --> 07:25.677 CONSUMER PURCHASES. THAT'S INCOME TO THE STATE OF 07:25.679 --> 07:26.011 THAT'S INCOME TO THE STATE OF ARIZONA. 07:26.013 --> 07:27.345 ARIZONA. SECOND, WE'RE A SMALL BUSINESS 07:27.347 --> 07:27.646 SECOND, WE'RE A SMALL BUSINESS STATE. 07:27.648 --> 07:29.448 STATE. WE NEED TO NURSE SMALL 07:29.450 --> 07:31.116 WE NEED TO NURSE SMALL BUSINESSES TO HEALTH FROM THE 07:31.118 --> 07:35.253 BUSINESSES TO HEALTH FROM THE DINING ROOM TABLE TO THE FIRST 07:35.255 --> 07:35.720 DINING ROOM TABLE TO THE FIRST LEASABLE SPACE. 07:35.722 --> 07:36.321 LEASABLE SPACE. WE LOSE TOO MANY SMALL 07:36.323 --> 07:37.989 WE LOSE TOO MANY SMALL BUSINESSES AT LAUNCH. 07:37.991 --> 07:42.127 BUSINESSES AT LAUNCH. WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ANY THAT -- A 07:42.129 --> 07:43.328 WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ANY THAT -- A NEW ECONOMY THAT MAKES SURE THEY 07:43.330 --> 07:45.530 NEW ECONOMY THAT MAKES SURE THEY CAN GET STARTED AND HAVE A 07:45.532 --> 07:49.968 CAN GET STARTED AND HAVE A STABLE GLIDE PATH TO BECOME 07:49.970 --> 07:50.669 STABLE GLIDE PATH TO BECOME EMPLOYERS AND THEN WE'LL GROW 07:50.671 --> 07:51.102 EMPLOYERS AND THEN WE'LL GROW OUR ECONOMY. 07:51.104 --> 07:51.736 OUR ECONOMY. >> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK 07:51.738 --> 07:52.471 >> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK EDUCATION AND THE ECONOMY BOUNCE 07:52.473 --> 07:52.938 EDUCATION AND THE ECONOMY BOUNCE OFF EACH OTHER? 07:52.940 --> 07:53.638 OFF EACH OTHER? >> I THINK THEY'RE COMPLETELY 07:53.640 --> 07:54.039 >> I THINK THEY'RE COMPLETELY INTERLINKED. 07:54.041 --> 07:54.773 INTERLINKED. I THINK IT'S THE MISSING LINK IN 07:54.775 --> 07:55.207 I THINK IT'S THE MISSING LINK IN OUR STRATEGY. 07:55.209 --> 07:58.877 OUR STRATEGY. WE HAVE -- WE HAVE BEEN VERY 07:58.879 --> 08:02.747 WE HAVE -- WE HAVE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE ON THE TAX REDUCTION 08:02.749 --> 08:03.048 AGGRESSIVE ON THE TAX REDUCTION SIDE. 08:03.050 --> 08:03.782 SIDE. WE HAVE LOWERED TAXES IN 23 OF 08:03.784 --> 08:04.516 WE HAVE LOWERED TAXES IN 23 OF THE LAST 24 YEARS AS A STRATEGY 08:04.518 --> 08:06.318 THE LAST 24 YEARS AS A STRATEGY TO GROW THE ECONOMY AND OUR 08:06.320 --> 08:07.819 TO GROW THE ECONOMY AND OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS NOW STILL 08:07.821 --> 08:08.820 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS NOW STILL ALMOST A POINT ABOVE THE 08:08.822 --> 08:09.454 ALMOST A POINT ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. 08:09.456 --> 08:11.857 NATIONAL AVERAGE. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT 08:11.859 --> 08:12.491 THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT COMPETITIVE TAXES AREN'T 08:12.493 --> 08:12.858 COMPETITIVE TAXES AREN'T IMPORTANT. 08:12.860 --> 08:13.458 IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING. 08:13.460 --> 08:17.128 IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD 08:17.130 --> 08:18.864 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION PLATFORM, PRODUCING 08:18.866 --> 08:23.368 EDUCATION PLATFORM, PRODUCING GOOD, SMART GRADUATES THAT ARE 08:23.370 --> 08:24.102 GOOD, SMART GRADUATES THAT ARE MOTIVATED AND READY TO PERFORM 08:24.104 --> 08:24.603 MOTIVATED AND READY TO PERFORM IN THE WORKPLACE. 08:24.605 --> 08:25.337 IN THE WORKPLACE. >> THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WATCHING 08:25.339 --> 08:26.071 >> THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS INTERVIEW WHO SAY I LIVE IN 08:26.073 --> 08:28.940 THIS INTERVIEW WHO SAY I LIVE IN A RURAL ECONOMY. 08:28.942 --> 08:30.408 A RURAL ECONOMY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR ME? 08:30.410 --> 08:32.110 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR ME? >> WE NEED A STATEWIDE STRATEGY. 08:32.112 --> 08:34.179 >> WE NEED A STATEWIDE STRATEGY. IT'S TOO URBAN CENTRIC TO BE 08:34.181 --> 08:34.880 IT'S TOO URBAN CENTRIC TO BE SURE. 08:34.882 --> 08:39.317 SURE. EACH COMMUNITY HAS ITS OWN 08:39.319 --> 08:40.519 EACH COMMUNITY HAS ITS OWN PARTICULAR ECONOMIC DESIGN, ITS 08:40.521 --> 08:41.953 PARTICULAR ECONOMIC DESIGN, ITS OWN CULTURAL DNA. 08:41.955 --> 08:44.055 OWN CULTURAL DNA. WE HAVE TO BE IN ALIGNMENT SO 08:44.057 --> 08:44.756 WE HAVE TO BE IN ALIGNMENT SO THAT THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY IN 08:44.758 --> 08:50.362 THAT THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY IN NORTHERN ARIZONA AND THE 08:50.364 --> 08:52.197 NORTHERN ARIZONA AND THE RANCHING INDUSTRY IN COCHISE 08:52.199 --> 08:52.931 RANCHING INDUSTRY IN COCHISE COUNTY IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. 08:52.933 --> 08:57.602 COUNTY IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. EACH HAS ITS OWN SPECIAL NEEDS 08:57.604 --> 08:59.304 EACH HAS ITS OWN SPECIAL NEEDS AND OUR STATE HAS TO HAVE A 08:59.306 --> 09:01.573 AND OUR STATE HAS TO HAVE A FULLY NUANCED AND FULLY THOUGHT 09:01.575 --> 09:03.041 FULLY NUANCED AND FULLY THOUGHT THROUGH STRATEGY AS TO HOW IT IS 09:03.043 --> 09:03.742 THROUGH STRATEGY AS TO HOW IT IS THAT WE GIVE THE COMMUNITIES, 09:03.744 --> 09:04.476 THAT WE GIVE THE COMMUNITIES, THE TOOLS, STATEWIDE IN TERMS OF 09:04.478 --> 09:09.581 THE TOOLS, STATEWIDE IN TERMS OF POLICY AND MICROSTRATEGIES THAT 09:09.583 --> 09:12.117 POLICY AND MICROSTRATEGIES THAT ARE TARGETED TO MAKE SURE EACH 09:12.119 --> 09:13.552 ARE TARGETED TO MAKE SURE EACH ECONOMY HAS A CHANCE TO GROW. 09:13.554 --> 09:14.986 ECONOMY HAS A CHANCE TO GROW. >> ALL TOO OFTEN WE HEAR THAT 09:14.988 --> 09:16.488 >> ALL TOO OFTEN WE HEAR THAT ARIZONA NEEDS TO BE SECURED. 09:16.490 --> 09:17.689 ARIZONA NEEDS TO BE SECURED. WHAT IS ARIZONA'S ROLE IN 09:17.691 --> 09:18.323 WHAT IS ARIZONA'S ROLE IN SECURING THE BORDER? 09:18.325 --> 09:19.524 SECURING THE BORDER? >> I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. 09:19.526 --> 09:23.662 >> I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. IT IS A -- IT'S OBVIOUSLY 09:23.664 --> 09:24.329 IT IS A -- IT'S OBVIOUSLY COMPLEX BECAUSE THERE'S AN 09:24.331 --> 09:25.030 COMPLEX BECAUSE THERE'S AN IMPORTANT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 09:25.032 --> 09:25.330 IMPORTANT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ROLE. 09:25.332 --> 09:28.800 ROLE. I JOINED REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP 09:28.802 --> 09:29.801 I JOINED REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP JOHN McCAIN AND SENATOR FLAKE 09:29.803 --> 09:31.102 JOHN McCAIN AND SENATOR FLAKE AND OTHERS THAT GET AFTER A 09:31.104 --> 09:31.937 AND OTHERS THAT GET AFTER A BIPARTISAN STRATEGY AT THE 09:31.939 --> 09:33.104 BIPARTISAN STRATEGY AT THE FEDERAL ROLE WHICH IS INCREASING 09:33.106 --> 09:35.040 FEDERAL ROLE WHICH IS INCREASING THE BORDER PATROL, INCREASING 09:35.042 --> 09:39.544 THE BORDER PATROL, INCREASING THE CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT. 09:39.546 --> 09:40.278 THE CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT. INCREASING FEDERAL SURVEILLANCE 09:40.280 --> 09:40.979 INCREASING FEDERAL SURVEILLANCE ON THE BORDER SO THAT WE CAN 09:40.981 --> 09:41.613 ON THE BORDER SO THAT WE CAN CREATE SECURITY ALONG THE 09:41.615 --> 09:41.947 CREATE SECURITY ALONG THE BORDER. 09:41.949 --> 09:48.320 BORDER. THE STATE HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE 09:48.322 --> 09:49.054 THE STATE HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE ROLE, PARTICULARLY DEALING WITH 09:49.056 --> 09:49.721 ROLE, PARTICULARLY DEALING WITH THE CARTELS, THE BAD ACTORS. 09:49.723 --> 09:50.422 THE CARTELS, THE BAD ACTORS. WE HAVE TOOLS IN THE BANKING 09:50.424 --> 09:51.156 WE HAVE TOOLS IN THE BANKING DEPARTMENT, IN THE STATUTES TO 09:51.158 --> 09:52.991 DEPARTMENT, IN THE STATUTES TO TRY AND REALLY BREAK THE 09:52.993 --> 09:54.326 TRY AND REALLY BREAK THE FINANCING OF THE CARTELS AND WE 09:54.328 --> 09:55.594 FINANCING OF THE CARTELS AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT. 09:55.596 --> 09:56.895 HAVE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE AN EMPLOYER SANCTION LAW 09:56.897 --> 09:57.963 WE HAVE AN EMPLOYER SANCTION LAW IN ARIZONA THAT I THINK NEEDS TO 09:57.965 --> 09:58.697 IN ARIZONA THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED AS PART OF THE WAY 09:58.699 --> 09:59.397 BE ENFORCED AS PART OF THE WAY OF DISCOURAGING THE MIGRATION. 09:59.399 --> 10:05.503 OF DISCOURAGING THE MIGRATION. THERE ARE SOME STATES -- WE HAVE 10:05.505 --> 10:07.839 THERE ARE SOME STATES -- WE HAVE TO ADEQUATELY FUND OUR STATE 10:07.841 --> 10:08.173 TO ADEQUATELY FUND OUR STATE POLICE. 10:08.175 --> 10:12.844 POLICE. OUR STATE POLICE WORKS FOR THE 10:12.846 --> 10:13.578 OUR STATE POLICE WORKS FOR THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ALONG THE 10:13.580 --> 10:14.312 LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ALONG THE BORDER COMMUNITIES AND WE NEED 10:14.314 --> 10:16.948 BORDER COMMUNITIES AND WE NEED TO FULLY RESOURCE THE POLICE TO 10:16.950 --> 10:17.515 TO FULLY RESOURCE THE POLICE TO DO THEIR JOB AS WELL. 10:17.517 --> 10:18.583 DO THEIR JOB AS WELL. >> FUNDING AND RESOURCE ALL 10:18.585 --> 10:20.685 >> FUNDING AND RESOURCE ALL SOUNDS VERY EXPENSIVE. 10:20.687 --> 10:22.887 SOUNDS VERY EXPENSIVE. HOW DO YOU SELL THE LEGISLATURE 10:22.889 --> 10:23.221 HOW DO YOU SELL THE LEGISLATURE ON THAT? 10:23.223 --> 10:23.955 ON THAT? >> THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO GROW, 10:23.957 --> 10:27.425 >> THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO GROW, AND THE BIG DEBATE DO WE DO WE 10:27.427 --> 10:29.227 AND THE BIG DEBATE DO WE DO WE INCOME TAX REPEAL OR CORPORATE 10:29.229 --> 10:31.262 INCOME TAX REPEAL OR CORPORATE INCOME TAX REPEAL WHICH IS 40% 10:31.264 --> 10:32.197 INCOME TAX REPEAL WHICH IS 40% OF THE STATE BUDGET. 10:32.199 --> 10:33.632 OF THE STATE BUDGET. DOUG'S PROPOSAL TO ABOLISH THE 10:33.634 --> 10:35.133 DOUG'S PROPOSAL TO ABOLISH THE INCOME TAX, IT'S VERY 10:35.135 --> 10:35.533 INCOME TAX, IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE. 10:35.535 --> 10:37.869 ATTRACTIVE. I'D LOVE TO PANDER AND SAY NO 10:37.871 --> 10:38.870 I'D LOVE TO PANDER AND SAY NO MORE TAXES FOR ANYONE. 10:38.872 --> 10:41.573 MORE TAXES FOR ANYONE. IT IS MORE THAN ALL THE MONEY WE 10:41.575 --> 10:42.173 IT IS MORE THAN ALL THE MONEY WE CURRENTLY SPEND ON K-12 10:42.175 --> 10:42.540 CURRENTLY SPEND ON K-12 EDUCATION. 10:42.542 --> 10:43.274 EDUCATION. MEANWHILE THE COURT HAS SAID IN 10:43.276 --> 10:47.979 MEANWHILE THE COURT HAS SAID IN THE NEW DECISION, THE VOTERS 10:47.981 --> 10:51.049 THE NEW DECISION, THE VOTERS ARE -- HAVE INSISTED THAT THE 10:51.051 --> 10:51.883 ARE -- HAVE INSISTED THAT THE LEGISLATURE FUND EDUCATION, 10:51.885 --> 10:53.018 LEGISLATURE FUND EDUCATION, GROWING WITH THE RATE OF 10:53.020 --> 10:53.385 GROWING WITH THE RATE OF INFLATION. 10:53.387 --> 10:54.719 INFLATION. THE LEGISLATURE HASN'T DONE IT. 10:54.721 --> 10:55.987 THE LEGISLATURE HASN'T DONE IT. NOW THE ISSUE IS ARE WE GOING TO 10:55.989 --> 10:57.856 NOW THE ISSUE IS ARE WE GOING TO KEEP APPEALING THIS DECISION 10:57.858 --> 10:59.124 KEEP APPEALING THIS DECISION WHICH DOUG WANTS TO DO OR ARE WE 10:59.126 --> 10:59.858 WHICH DOUG WANTS TO DO OR ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS DECISION 10:59.860 --> 11:00.592 GOING TO ENFORCE THIS DECISION AND GET ON WITH INVESTING IN OUR 11:00.594 --> 11:01.026 AND GET ON WITH INVESTING IN OUR KIDS' SCHOOLS? 11:01.028 --> 11:02.327 KIDS' SCHOOLS? THAT'S THE PATH I TAKE. 11:02.329 --> 11:07.599 THAT'S THE PATH I TAKE. AND I JOIN WITH PARENTS AND 11:07.601 --> 11:08.333 AND I JOIN WITH PARENTS AND TEACHERS ALL OVER THE STATE IN 11:08.335 --> 11:09.000 TEACHERS ALL OVER THE STATE IN SAYING, DOUG, REVERSE YOUR 11:09.002 --> 11:09.467 SAYING, DOUG, REVERSE YOUR OPINION ON THIS. 11:09.469 --> 11:12.937 OPINION ON THIS. LET'S STOP APPEALING AND START 11:12.939 --> 11:15.874 LET'S STOP APPEALING AND START FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS AGAIN. 11:15.876 --> 11:21.913 FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS AGAIN. >> LET'S GO BACK TO THE BORDER, 11:21.915 --> 11:25.884 >> LET'S GO BACK TO THE BORDER, YOU HAVE BEEN IN COCHISE AREA. 11:25.886 --> 11:26.551 YOU HAVE BEEN IN COCHISE AREA. DO YOU THINK THE BORDER IS 11:26.553 --> 11:26.885 DO YOU THINK THE BORDER IS SECURE? 11:26.887 --> 11:27.619 SECURE? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S PERFECTLY 11:27.621 --> 11:28.753 >> I DON'T THINK IT'S PERFECTLY SECURE, AND WE HAVE TO DO MORE 11:28.755 --> 11:29.354 SECURE, AND WE HAVE TO DO MORE TO ENSURE IT IS SECURE. 11:29.356 --> 11:30.088 TO ENSURE IT IS SECURE. AS WELL AS MAKE SURE THERE ARE 11:30.090 --> 11:34.159 AS WELL AS MAKE SURE THERE ARE CRITICAL TRADING RELATIONSHIP 11:34.161 --> 11:37.295 CRITICAL TRADING RELATIONSHIP WITH MEXICO -- YOU KNOW, TEXAS'S 11:37.297 --> 11:38.663 WITH MEXICO -- YOU KNOW, TEXAS'S TRADE RATE WITH MEXICO IS 11:38.665 --> 11:39.531 TRADE RATE WITH MEXICO IS SIGNIFICANTLY OUTPACING US. 11:39.533 --> 11:40.231 SIGNIFICANTLY OUTPACING US. THE NEW DEEP WATER PORT IS A 11:40.233 --> 11:40.632 THE NEW DEEP WATER PORT IS A HUGE ASSET. 11:40.634 --> 11:41.366 HUGE ASSET. MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE 11:41.368 --> 11:42.000 MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS. 11:42.002 --> 11:47.939 TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS. THE PORT OF ENTRY IS A 11:47.941 --> 11:48.373 THE PORT OF ENTRY IS A BOTTLENECK. 11:48.375 --> 11:50.809 BOTTLENECK. WE'VE GOT TO GET AFTER THE 11:50.811 --> 11:51.509 WE'VE GOT TO GET AFTER THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN 11:51.511 --> 11:52.243 INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN FULLY EMBRACE THE GROWING MIDDLE 11:52.245 --> 11:52.911 FULLY EMBRACE THE GROWING MIDDLE CLASS IN MEXICO, THAT IS A 11:52.913 --> 11:55.980 CLASS IN MEXICO, THAT IS A MARKET FOR US. 11:55.982 --> 11:57.282 MARKET FOR US. SO GETTING BORDER SECURITY RIGHT 11:57.284 --> 11:58.783 SO GETTING BORDER SECURITY RIGHT AND GETTING THE TRADE 11:58.785 --> 12:01.586 AND GETTING THE TRADE RELATIONSHIP RIGHT IS A CRITICAL 12:01.588 --> 12:02.120 RELATIONSHIP RIGHT IS A CRITICAL TWO-PART STRATEGY. 12:02.122 --> 12:03.488 TWO-PART STRATEGY. >> FRED DuVAL SERVED ON THE 12:03.490 --> 12:06.257 >> FRED DuVAL SERVED ON THE ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS, THE 12:06.259 --> 12:06.958 ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE 12:06.960 --> 12:09.761 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND IN THE '90s WORKED IN THE 12:09.763 --> 12:11.129 AND IN THE '90s WORKED IN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. 12:11.131 --> 12:13.331 CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. HE'S A HUSBAND, A FATHER, AND 12:13.333 --> 12:14.699 HE'S A HUSBAND, A FATHER, AND THE 59-YEAR-OLD SAYS HIS 12:14.701 --> 12:15.433 THE 59-YEAR-OLD SAYS HIS EXPERIENCE MAKES HIM QUALIFIED 12:15.435 --> 12:19.270 EXPERIENCE MAKES HIM QUALIFIED TO BE ARIZONA'S NEXT GOVERNOR. 12:19.272 --> 12:19.971 TO BE ARIZONA'S NEXT GOVERNOR. YOU'VE BEEN A BIT OF A BEHIND 12:19.973 --> 12:20.705 YOU'VE BEEN A BIT OF A BEHIND THE SCENES GUY WHEN IT COMES TO 12:20.707 --> 12:24.209 THE SCENES GUY WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS. 12:24.211 --> 12:25.543 POLITICS. NOW YOU'RE REALLY PUTTING 12:25.545 --> 12:26.144 NOW YOU'RE REALLY PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE. 12:26.146 --> 12:26.778 YOURSELF OUT THERE. YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 12:26.780 --> 12:27.378 YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN POLITICS SINCE YOUR 20s. 12:27.380 --> 12:27.712 POLITICS SINCE YOUR 20s. WHY NOW? 12:27.714 --> 12:32.484 WHY NOW? >> IT'S -- A CRITICAL MOMENT IN 12:32.486 --> 12:34.252 >> IT'S -- A CRITICAL MOMENT IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND I LOVE 12:34.254 --> 12:34.753 THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND I LOVE THIS STATE. 12:34.755 --> 12:36.121 THIS STATE. I BELIEVE THIS IS A PIONEERING 12:36.123 --> 12:36.421 I BELIEVE THIS IS A PIONEERING STATE. 12:36.423 --> 12:40.625 STATE. WHEN I GREW UP HERE IN TUCSON, 12:40.627 --> 12:41.359 WHEN I GREW UP HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA WAS A PLACE EVERYONE IN 12:41.361 --> 12:42.026 ARIZONA WAS A PLACE EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY WANTED TO COME 12:42.028 --> 12:43.161 THE COUNTRY WANTED TO COME BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE. 12:43.163 --> 12:44.929 BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE. WE WERE INVENTING THINGS HERE. 12:44.931 --> 12:45.597 WE WERE INVENTING THINGS HERE. WHEN I WORKED WITH GOVERNOR 12:45.599 --> 12:46.264 WHEN I WORKED WITH GOVERNOR BABBITT WITH THE REPUBLICAN 12:46.266 --> 12:46.898 BABBITT WITH THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE, WE HAD A BIG 12:46.900 --> 12:51.069 LEGISLATURE, WE HAD A BIG STRATEGIC GOAL. 12:51.071 --> 12:52.904 STRATEGIC GOAL. ACCESS TOOK TWO YEARS. 12:52.906 --> 12:54.606 ACCESS TOOK TWO YEARS. THE PHOENIX FREEWAY SYSTEM, ONE 12:54.608 --> 12:58.076 THE PHOENIX FREEWAY SYSTEM, ONE YEAR. 12:58.078 --> 12:58.777 YEAR. A BIG GOAL THAT WE WENT AFTER 12:58.779 --> 12:59.144 A BIG GOAL THAT WE WENT AFTER EACH YEAR. 12:59.146 --> 13:05.016 EACH YEAR. WE PUT THE PARTISAN POLITICS 13:05.018 --> 13:09.187 WE PUT THE PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE AND LET'S STOP FIGHTING 13:09.189 --> 13:09.687 ASIDE AND LET'S STOP FIGHTING AND START FIXING. 13:09.689 --> 13:10.388 AND START FIXING. IT IS NOT GROWING THE KIND OF 13:10.390 --> 13:11.623 IT IS NOT GROWING THE KIND OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WANT AND OUR 13:11.625 --> 13:12.991 OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WANT AND OUR KIDS SOME ARE GETTING A GREAT 13:12.993 --> 13:14.592 KIDS SOME ARE GETTING A GREAT EDUCATION, SOME ARE NOT. 13:14.594 --> 13:16.828 EDUCATION, SOME ARE NOT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE LIFT 13:16.830 --> 13:18.797 WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE LIFT EVERY CHILD TO THEIR FULL 13:18.799 --> 13:19.197 EVERY CHILD TO THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. 13:19.199 --> 13:20.465 POTENTIAL. >> YOUR COMPETITOR, DOUG DUCEY 13:20.467 --> 13:21.566 >> YOUR COMPETITOR, DOUG DUCEY HAS TED CRUZ AND SARAH PALIN. 13:21.568 --> 13:23.067 HAS TED CRUZ AND SARAH PALIN. BUT YOU HAVE YOURS AS WELL. 13:23.069 --> 13:27.605 BUT YOU HAVE YOURS AS WELL. TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE 13:27.607 --> 13:28.239 TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE SUPPORT YOU'RE RECEIVING. 13:28.241 --> 13:31.709 SUPPORT YOU'RE RECEIVING. >> WELL, I HAVE A LOT OF 13:31.711 --> 13:32.443 >> WELL, I HAVE A LOT OF BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND MY FIRST 13:32.445 --> 13:32.944 BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND MY FIRST AD IS GRANT WOODS. 13:32.946 --> 13:36.981 AD IS GRANT WOODS. FORMER REPUBLICAN ATTORNEY 13:36.983 --> 13:38.183 FORMER REPUBLICAN ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HE'S KNOWN ME MOST 13:38.185 --> 13:38.583 GENERAL AND HE'S KNOWN ME MOST OF MY LIFE. 13:38.585 --> 13:39.250 OF MY LIFE. HIS POINT IS, THIS GUY FRED 13:39.252 --> 13:43.555 HIS POINT IS, THIS GUY FRED DuVAL REALLY COLLABORATES WELL 13:43.557 --> 13:45.590 DuVAL REALLY COLLABORATES WELL ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS AROUND 13:45.592 --> 13:47.258 ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS AROUND BIG, STRATEGIC GOALS. 13:47.260 --> 13:51.663 BIG, STRATEGIC GOALS. I HAVE WATCHED HIM MY WHOLE 13:51.665 --> 13:51.963 I HAVE WATCHED HIM MY WHOLE LIFE. 13:51.965 --> 13:52.697 LIFE. AFTER THE PARTISAN FIGHTING THAT 13:52.699 --> 13:58.136 AFTER THE PARTISAN FIGHTING THAT HAD GOTTEN INTO A LOT OF THIS 13:58.138 --> 13:58.736 HAD GOTTEN INTO A LOT OF THIS MESS IT'S TIME FOR THIS 13:58.738 --> 13:59.137 MESS IT'S TIME FOR THIS LEADERSHIP. 13:59.139 --> 14:01.406 LEADERSHIP. JAN BREWER'S BEST PART IS WHEN 14:01.408 --> 14:02.907 JAN BREWER'S BEST PART IS WHEN SHE LED THE BIPARTISAN EFFORTS 14:02.909 --> 14:05.343 SHE LED THE BIPARTISAN EFFORTS AROUND MEDICAID EXPANSION AND 14:05.345 --> 14:06.010 AROUND MEDICAID EXPANSION AND EXPECTATIONS IN EDUCATION, 14:06.012 --> 14:06.411 EXPECTATIONS IN EDUCATION, COMMON CORE. 14:06.413 --> 14:07.145 COMMON CORE. THAT'S THE KIND OF TRADITION I 14:07.147 --> 14:07.512 THAT'S THE KIND OF TRADITION I COME FROM. 14:07.514 --> 14:08.146 COME FROM. AND SARAH PALIN, TED CRUZ 14:08.148 --> 14:11.850 AND SARAH PALIN, TED CRUZ PARTISAN POLITICS, I DON'T 14:11.852 --> 14:12.550 PARTISAN POLITICS, I DON'T EMBRACE IT IN THE DEMOCRATIC 14:12.552 --> 14:18.089 EMBRACE IT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. 14:18.091 --> 14:20.758 PARTY. DOUG DOES EMBRACE IT, AND THAT'S 14:20.760 --> 14:21.993 DOUG DOES EMBRACE IT, AND THAT'S POLITICS THAT ALIENATES PEOPLE 14:21.995 --> 14:23.428 POLITICS THAT ALIENATES PEOPLE AND WHY THERE ARE SO MANY 14:23.430 --> 14:23.862 AND WHY THERE ARE SO MANY INDEPENDENTS. 14:23.864 --> 14:24.696 INDEPENDENTS. THEY'RE REGISTERED. 14:24.698 --> 14:25.830 THEY'RE REGISTERED. THEY CARE ABOUT THE STATE. 14:25.832 --> 14:26.531 THEY CARE ABOUT THE STATE. THEY CARE ABOUT THESE ISSUES. 14:26.533 --> 14:27.232 THEY CARE ABOUT THESE ISSUES. THEY'RE SICK OF THE PARTISAN 14:27.234 --> 14:31.169 THEY'RE SICK OF THE PARTISAN POLITICS WHICH IS NOT ADDRESSING 14:31.171 --> 14:32.036 POLITICS WHICH IS NOT ADDRESSING OUR NEEDS. 14:32.038 --> 14:33.304 OUR NEEDS. >> ON THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE, 14:33.306 --> 14:34.305 >> ON THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE, IT APPEARS THAT ARIZONA IS A BIT 14:34.307 --> 14:34.973 IT APPEARS THAT ARIZONA IS A BIT OF A REPUBLICAN STRONG HOLD. 14:34.975 --> 14:35.707 OF A REPUBLICAN STRONG HOLD. HOW DO YOU HOPE TO CHANGE THAT? 14:35.709 --> 14:37.909 HOW DO YOU HOPE TO CHANGE THAT? >> WELL, TWO THINGS. 14:37.911 --> 14:38.576 >> WELL, TWO THINGS. FIRST IS WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY 14:38.578 --> 14:47.619 FIRST IS WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY ELECTED DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS. 14:47.621 --> 14:48.353 ELECTED DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS. SECOND, I JUST I NO LONGER THINK 14:48.355 --> 14:48.953 SECOND, I JUST I NO LONGER THINK THE REPUBLICAN AND THE 14:48.955 --> 14:49.687 THE REPUBLICAN AND THE DEMOCRATIC TAGS IS THE WAY THAT 14:49.689 --> 14:50.388 DEMOCRATIC TAGS IS THE WAY THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT POLITICS. 14:50.390 --> 14:51.522 PEOPLE LOOK AT POLITICS. THEY WANT PROBLEM SOLVING. 14:51.524 --> 14:52.223 THEY WANT PROBLEM SOLVING. THEY WANT LEADERS. 14:52.225 --> 14:53.424 THEY WANT LEADERS. THEY CALL IT THE WAY THEY SEE 14:53.426 --> 14:53.892 THEY CALL IT THE WAY THEY SEE IT. 14:53.894 --> 14:54.993 IT. INDEPENDENT MINDED. 14:54.995 --> 14:56.427 INDEPENDENT MINDED. THEY PUT THE STATE FIRST, FIGHT 14:56.429 --> 14:58.329 THEY PUT THE STATE FIRST, FIGHT THE STATE'S BATTLE AGAINST 14:58.331 --> 14:59.397 THE STATE'S BATTLE AGAINST WASHINGTON WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. 14:59.399 --> 15:00.164 WASHINGTON WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. PUTS PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE 15:00.166 --> 15:00.698 PUTS PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. 15:00.700 --> 15:05.536 WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. GETS THE JOB DONE, AND GETS -- 15:05.538 --> 15:06.271 GETS THE JOB DONE, AND GETS -- HAS THE DISCIPLINE TO SAY, 15:06.273 --> 15:06.971 HAS THE DISCIPLINE TO SAY, ENOUGH OF THE RED VERSUS BLUE. 15:06.973 --> 15:12.176 ENOUGH OF THE RED VERSUS BLUE. ENOUGH OF THE SHARP STICKS. 15:12.178 --> 15:17.649 ENOUGH OF THE SHARP STICKS. IT'S JUST -- IT'S NOT ADDRESSING 15:17.651 --> 15:18.316 IT'S JUST -- IT'S NOT ADDRESSING OUR ECONOMIC AND EDUCATION 15:18.318 --> 15:18.616 OUR ECONOMIC AND EDUCATION NEEDS. 15:18.618 --> 15:19.317 NEEDS. I PLAN TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY. 15:19.319 --> 15:20.118 I PLAN TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY. >> MR. DuVAL, DO YOU HAVE 15:20.120 --> 15:21.052 >> MR. DuVAL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? 15:21.054 --> 15:21.986 ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? >> ONE OTHER THING. 15:21.988 --> 15:23.254 >> ONE OTHER THING. YOU KNOW, MY THREE PRIORITIES, I 15:23.256 --> 15:24.322 YOU KNOW, MY THREE PRIORITIES, I TALKED ABOUT EDUCATION, I TALKED 15:24.324 --> 15:25.123 TALKED ABOUT EDUCATION, I TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY. 15:25.125 --> 15:27.325 ABOUT THE ECONOMY. LET ME ADDRESS ONE FINAL THING. 15:27.327 --> 15:27.959 LET ME ADDRESS ONE FINAL THING. WE HAVE BECOME AN ETHICAL 15:27.961 --> 15:28.326 WE HAVE BECOME AN ETHICAL NIGHTMARE. 15:28.328 --> 15:29.060 NIGHTMARE. WE ARE NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY 15:29.062 --> 15:30.995 WE ARE NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY KNOWN FOR OUR POLITICS OF 15:30.997 --> 15:31.396 KNOWN FOR OUR POLITICS OF DYSFUNCTION. 15:31.398 --> 15:33.598 DYSFUNCTION. FOR POLITICIANS THAT ARE DEALING 15:33.600 --> 15:34.332 FOR POLITICIANS THAT ARE DEALING WITH PAY BACKS AND SELF-INTEREST 15:34.334 --> 15:41.272 WITH PAY BACKS AND SELF-INTEREST AND IT HAS REALLY HURT OUR AND 15:41.274 --> 15:42.640 AND IT HAS REALLY HURT OUR AND TO RECRUIT BUSINESSES AND 15:42.642 --> 15:43.107 TO RECRUIT BUSINESSES AND VENTURE CAPITAL. 15:43.109 --> 15:43.775 VENTURE CAPITAL. THE KIND OF GROWTH WE WANT. 15:43.777 --> 15:44.175 THE KIND OF GROWTH WE WANT. 1062, 1070. 15:44.177 --> 15:49.580 1062, 1070. THESE IDEOLOGICAL AND 15:49.582 --> 15:54.319 THESE IDEOLOGICAL AND SELF-INTERESTED POLITICAL 15:54.321 --> 15:54.919 SELF-INTERESTED POLITICAL AGENDAS ARE IN THE WAY. 15:54.921 --> 15:55.653 AGENDAS ARE IN THE WAY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING 15:55.655 --> 15:56.321 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO PURSUE IS AN INDEPENDENT 15:56.323 --> 15:57.255 TO PURSUE IS AN INDEPENDENT STATE ETHICS COMMISSION SO WE 15:57.257 --> 15:57.989 STATE ETHICS COMMISSION SO WE HAVE NONPARTISAN, NONPOLITICAL 15:57.991 --> 16:03.061 HAVE NONPARTISAN, NONPOLITICAL FOLKS WHO APPLY STATE LAW AND 16:03.063 --> 16:05.029 FOLKS WHO APPLY STATE LAW AND STATE POLITICIANS WHO ARE 16:05.031 --> 16:06.331 STATE POLITICIANS WHO ARE SELF-SERVING OR PLAYING GAMES, 16:06.333 --> 16:10.535 SELF-SERVING OR PLAYING GAMES, KNOCK IT OFF. 16:10.537 --> 16:11.269 KNOCK IT OFF. WE'LL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE AND 16:11.271 --> 16:11.970 WE'LL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE AND TRY TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN 16:11.972 --> 16:12.704 TRY TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN STATE GOVERNMENT SO THAT VOTERS 16:12.706 --> 16:13.538 STATE GOVERNMENT SO THAT VOTERS CAN BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE 16:13.540 --> 16:15.606 CAN BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE KIND OF FUTURE WE ALL ASPIRE TO 16:15.608 --> 16:16.341 KIND OF FUTURE WE ALL ASPIRE TO IN THIS GREAT STATE. 16:16.343 --> 16:18.142 IN THIS GREAT STATE. >> YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE IMAGE 16:18.144 --> 16:18.943 >> YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE IMAGE OF ARIZONA. 16:18.945 --> 16:21.079 OF ARIZONA. >> IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. 16:21.081 --> 16:22.680 >> IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. IN A BORDERLESS ECONOMY, WHERE 16:22.682 --> 16:24.615 IN A BORDERLESS ECONOMY, WHERE STATE BORDERS AND NATIONAL 16:24.617 --> 16:25.883 STATE BORDERS AND NATIONAL BORDERS MEAN LESS AND LESS, 16:25.885 --> 16:28.019 BORDERS MEAN LESS AND LESS, WHERE VENTURE CAPITAL AND 16:28.021 --> 16:29.887 WHERE VENTURE CAPITAL AND BUSINESS GROWTH MOVES WHERE 16:29.889 --> 16:31.356 BUSINESS GROWTH MOVES WHERE OPPORTUNITY IS, BRAND MATTERS. 16:31.358 --> 16:32.557 OPPORTUNITY IS, BRAND MATTERS. WHEN YOU'RE VIEWED AS A STATE 16:32.559 --> 16:33.257 WHEN YOU'RE VIEWED AS A STATE THAT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL, THAT IS 16:33.259 --> 16:39.330 THAT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL, THAT IS OVERLY PARTISAN, THAT HAS 16:39.332 --> 16:40.164 OVERLY PARTISAN, THAT HAS POLITICALLY SELF-INTERESTED 16:40.166 --> 16:42.567 POLITICALLY SELF-INTERESTED POLITICIANS THAT DON'T PUT 16:42.569 --> 16:43.234 POLITICIANS THAT DON'T PUT ECONOMIC, SMART STRATEGIES 16:43.236 --> 16:43.901 ECONOMIC, SMART STRATEGIES FIRST, WE SUFFER AND WE'RE 16:43.903 --> 16:44.602 FIRST, WE SUFFER AND WE'RE WATCHING THAT IN OUR ECONOMY. 16:44.604 --> 16:46.104 WATCHING THAT IN OUR ECONOMY. BUSINESS GROWTH IS NOT COMING 16:46.106 --> 16:46.838 BUSINESS GROWTH IS NOT COMING BACK THE WAY WE WANT IT TO AND 16:46.840 --> 16:47.405 BACK THE WAY WE WANT IT TO AND BRAND REALLY MATTERS. 16:47.407 --> 16:48.973 BRAND REALLY MATTERS. I WANT ARIZONA TO BE KNOWN FOR 16:48.975 --> 16:53.411 I WANT ARIZONA TO BE KNOWN FOR WHAT I REALLY THINK IT IS. 16:53.413 --> 16:55.646 WHAT I REALLY THINK IT IS. AND INCLUSIVE, INVITING. 16:55.648 --> 16:56.214 AND INCLUSIVE, INVITING. PRO BUSINESS. 16:56.216 --> 16:56.881 PRO BUSINESS. A STATE THAT CELEBRATES OUR 16:56.883 --> 16:57.582 A STATE THAT CELEBRATES OUR DIVERSITY AND CELEBRATES THIS 16:57.584 --> 17:03.321 DIVERSITY AND CELEBRATES THIS UNIQUE STARTUP, INNOVATIVE, 17:03.323 --> 17:04.789 UNIQUE STARTUP, INNOVATIVE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH RISK. 17:04.791 --> 17:06.491 WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH RISK. WE COME FROM SOME PLACE ELSE. 17:06.493 --> 17:07.525 WE COME FROM SOME PLACE ELSE. WE START ANEW HERE. 17:07.527 --> 17:08.459 WE START ANEW HERE. THAT'S A WONDERFUL ASSET TO HAVE 17:08.461 --> 17:09.193 THAT'S A WONDERFUL ASSET TO HAVE IN THE 21st CENTURY ECONOMY AND 17:09.195 --> 17:13.164 IN THE 21st CENTURY ECONOMY AND WE SHOULD USE EVERY BIT OF IT. 17:13.166 --> 17:14.932 WE SHOULD USE EVERY BIT OF IT. >> AND JOINING ME NOW FOR THE 17:14.934 --> 17:16.501 >> AND JOINING ME NOW FOR THE ANALYSIS OF THE UPCOMING 17:16.503 --> 17:17.602 ANALYSIS OF THE UPCOMING GOVERNOR'S RACE, ARE JOE 17:17.604 --> 17:18.336 GOVERNOR'S RACE, ARE JOE FERGUSON, POLITICAL REPORTER AT 17:18.338 --> 17:18.970 FERGUSON, POLITICAL REPORTER AT THE "ARIZONA DAILY STAR." 17:18.972 --> 17:22.206 THE "ARIZONA DAILY STAR." AND JEREMY DUDA FROM THE ARIZONA 17:22.208 --> 17:22.640 AND JEREMY DUDA FROM THE ARIZONA CAPITAL TIMES. 17:22.642 --> 17:23.307 CAPITAL TIMES. HE'S JOINING US FROM FELIX. 17:23.309 --> 17:26.744 HE'S JOINING US FROM FELIX. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 17:26.746 --> 17:27.478 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. JOE, DuVAL SAID THAT EDUCATION 17:27.480 --> 17:32.917 JOE, DuVAL SAID THAT EDUCATION IS HIS PLATFORM AND HE'S 17:32.919 --> 17:34.318 IS HIS PLATFORM AND HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE'S LACK 17:34.320 --> 17:36.521 CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE'S LACK OF FUNDING FOR EDUCATION. 17:36.523 --> 17:36.854 OF FUNDING FOR EDUCATION. >> SURE. 17:36.856 --> 17:37.555 >> SURE. FRED DuVAL HAS AN AREA WHERE 17:37.557 --> 17:38.289 FRED DuVAL HAS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT CAN 17:38.291 --> 17:38.623 THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT CAN BE DONE. 17:38.625 --> 17:42.827 BE DONE. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE 17:42.829 --> 17:44.762 SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN EDUCATION, SO IT 17:44.764 --> 17:46.164 INTERESTED IN EDUCATION, SO IT BECOMES A NATURAL FIT FOR A 17:46.166 --> 17:46.931 BECOMES A NATURAL FIT FOR A FORMER CHAIR OF THE ARIZONA 17:46.933 --> 17:49.867 FORMER CHAIR OF THE ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS TO TALK ABOUT, 17:49.869 --> 17:51.335 BOARD OF REGENTS TO TALK ABOUT, MAKING CHANGES TO EDUCATION. 17:51.337 --> 17:52.036 MAKING CHANGES TO EDUCATION. >> HE SAID SOME THINGS IN THE 17:52.038 --> 17:52.770 >> HE SAID SOME THINGS IN THE INTERVIEW ABOUT ARIZONA LOSING 17:52.772 --> 18:02.013 INTERVIEW ABOUT ARIZONA LOSING SO MANY TEACHERS THAT CLASS SIZE 18:02.015 --> 18:02.647 SO MANY TEACHERS THAT CLASS SIZE IS EXTRAORDINARILY LARGE. 18:02.649 --> 18:03.381 IS EXTRAORDINARILY LARGE. WE HAVE SOME TROUBLE BEING ABLE 18:03.383 --> 18:04.048 WE HAVE SOME TROUBLE BEING ABLE TO CONFIRM THE NUMBERS THAT 18:04.050 --> 18:04.715 TO CONFIRM THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE HEARING BUT HE IS ON 18:04.717 --> 18:05.817 WE'RE HEARING BUT HE IS ON TRACK, I MEAN THE NUMBERS ARE 18:05.819 --> 18:06.250 TRACK, I MEAN THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY BLEAK. 18:06.252 --> 18:07.618 PRETTY BLEAK. >> THEY'RE PRETTY BLEAK. 18:07.620 --> 18:08.753 >> THEY'RE PRETTY BLEAK. WE KNOW THERE'S HIGH TURNOVERS 18:08.755 --> 18:10.121 WE KNOW THERE'S HIGH TURNOVERS IN THE SCHOOLS. 18:10.123 --> 18:11.456 IN THE SCHOOLS. WE KNOW THERE'S LARGE CLASS 18:11.458 --> 18:13.057 WE KNOW THERE'S LARGE CLASS SIZES COMPARED TO THE REST OF 18:13.059 --> 18:13.491 SIZES COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. 18:13.493 --> 18:16.294 THE COUNTRY. >> AND JEREMY, EDUCATION BEING 18:16.296 --> 18:18.463 >> AND JEREMY, EDUCATION BEING HIS PLATFORM, WHEREAS SOME OTHER 18:18.465 --> 18:19.764 HIS PLATFORM, WHEREAS SOME OTHER CANDIDATES, DOUG DUCEY TALKED OF 18:19.766 --> 18:21.666 CANDIDATES, DOUG DUCEY TALKED OF THE ECONOMY AND THE BORDER. 18:21.668 --> 18:23.301 THE ECONOMY AND THE BORDER. IS FRED DuVAL MAYBE GIVING 18:23.303 --> 18:24.001 IS FRED DuVAL MAYBE GIVING VOTERS THE RIGHT INFORMATION 18:24.003 --> 18:24.669 VOTERS THE RIGHT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO 18:24.671 --> 18:25.036 RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION? 18:25.038 --> 18:25.770 EDUCATION? >> WELL, HE'S GOT A MESSAGE THAT 18:25.772 --> 18:29.907 >> WELL, HE'S GOT A MESSAGE THAT I THINK -- YOU KNOW, ITS REALLY 18:29.909 --> 18:30.975 I THINK -- YOU KNOW, ITS REALLY TOUCHES ON SOMETHING THAT A LOT 18:30.977 --> 18:31.709 TOUCHES ON SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN UPSET ABOUT 18:31.711 --> 18:32.410 OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN UPSET ABOUT WHICH IS THE MASSIVE CUTS WE 18:32.412 --> 18:36.614 WHICH IS THE MASSIVE CUTS WE HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY 18:36.616 --> 18:38.549 HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SINCE -- STARTING IN 2009 AS A 18:38.551 --> 18:40.084 SINCE -- STARTING IN 2009 AS A RESULT OF THE RECESSION AND THE 18:40.086 --> 18:41.886 RESULT OF THE RECESSION AND THE MAJOR BUDGET CUTS. 18:41.888 --> 18:43.654 MAJOR BUDGET CUTS. HE'S TALKING ABOUT RESTORING, 18:43.656 --> 18:45.022 HE'S TALKING ABOUT RESTORING, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION BASICALLY TO 18:45.024 --> 18:46.457 YOU KNOW, EDUCATION BASICALLY TO THE 2008 LEVEL. 18:46.459 --> 18:46.991 THE 2008 LEVEL. WHICH IS TALL ORDER. 18:46.993 --> 18:47.692 WHICH IS TALL ORDER. BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ALL-TIME 18:47.694 --> 18:48.092 BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ALL-TIME RECORD HIGH. 18:48.094 --> 18:48.826 RECORD HIGH. RUNNING ON A MESSAGE OF NO MORE 18:48.828 --> 18:52.997 RUNNING ON A MESSAGE OF NO MORE EDUCATION CUTS. 18:52.999 --> 18:54.165 EDUCATION CUTS. AND I THINK EDUCATION IS GOING 18:54.167 --> 18:56.100 AND I THINK EDUCATION IS GOING TO PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN THE 18:56.102 --> 18:56.400 TO PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN THE RACE. 18:56.402 --> 18:57.835 RACE. YOU SEE DOUG DUCEY TALKING ABOUT 18:57.837 --> 18:58.569 YOU SEE DOUG DUCEY TALKING ABOUT THIS AS WELL. 18:58.571 --> 19:00.404 THIS AS WELL. SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THINGS HE'S 19:00.406 --> 19:01.239 SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THINGS HE'S TALKING MORE ABOUT CHARTER 19:01.241 --> 19:02.473 TALKING MORE ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND TRYING TO EMULATE 19:02.475 --> 19:05.443 SCHOOLS AND TRYING TO EMULATE THE BEST PRACTICES OF -- YOU 19:05.445 --> 19:06.377 THE BEST PRACTICES OF -- YOU KNOW, THE BEST DISTRICT AND 19:06.379 --> 19:07.145 KNOW, THE BEST DISTRICT AND CHARTER SCHOOLS. 19:07.147 --> 19:08.312 CHARTER SCHOOLS. BUT DuVAL HAS SEIZED ON 19:08.314 --> 19:08.980 BUT DuVAL HAS SEIZED ON EDUCATION AS HIS KEY ISSUE 19:08.982 --> 19:09.313 EDUCATION AS HIS KEY ISSUE THERE. 19:09.315 --> 19:10.047 THERE. >> ESPECIALLY I THINK LOOKING AT 19:10.049 --> 19:12.550 >> ESPECIALLY I THINK LOOKING AT THE RACE FOR SUPERINTENDENT 19:12.552 --> 19:13.584 THE RACE FOR SUPERINTENDENT PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, A VERY 19:13.586 --> 19:17.822 PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, A VERY CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT. 19:17.824 --> 19:18.523 CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT. THIS MAY BE FOR HIM THE RIGHT 19:18.525 --> 19:23.594 THIS MAY BE FOR HIM THE RIGHT TIME TO SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY, 19:23.596 --> 19:25.663 TIME TO SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY, JEREMY, WOULD YOU AGREE? 19:25.665 --> 19:26.931 JEREMY, WOULD YOU AGREE? >> DEFINITELY. 19:26.933 --> 19:28.432 >> DEFINITELY. ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMMON CORE 19:28.434 --> 19:29.500 ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS OR THE COLLEGE AND 19:29.502 --> 19:30.101 STANDARDS OR THE COLLEGE AND CAREER READY STANDARDS. 19:30.103 --> 19:30.801 CAREER READY STANDARDS. YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE IS AT THE 19:30.803 --> 19:34.906 YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE IS AT THE FOREFRONT, YOU KNOW, FRED DuVAL 19:34.908 --> 19:37.041 FOREFRONT, YOU KNOW, FRED DuVAL IS VERY MUCH FOR THE STANDARDS. 19:37.043 --> 19:40.077 IS VERY MUCH FOR THE STANDARDS. DUCEY HAS SPOKEN OUT PRETTY 19:40.079 --> 19:41.212 DUCEY HAS SPOKEN OUT PRETTY VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THEM. 19:41.214 --> 19:43.314 VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THEM. THOUGH HE HASN'T COMMITTED TO 19:43.316 --> 19:44.015 THOUGH HE HASN'T COMMITTED TO GETTING RID OF THEM. 19:44.017 --> 19:45.116 GETTING RID OF THEM. I THINK THEY'LL TRY TO FIND 19:45.118 --> 19:47.385 I THINK THEY'LL TRY TO FIND OTHER AREAS OF EDUCATION BESIDES 19:47.387 --> 19:48.419 OTHER AREAS OF EDUCATION BESIDES THAT TO TALK ABOUT. 19:48.421 --> 19:50.154 THAT TO TALK ABOUT. THAT -- THE COMMON CORE 19:50.156 --> 19:51.389 THAT -- THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS HAVE DOMINATED EVERY 19:51.391 --> 19:52.323 STANDARDS HAVE DOMINATED EVERY CONVERSATION WE HAVE SEEN ON THE 19:52.325 --> 19:53.457 CONVERSATION WE HAVE SEEN ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN ALL KINDS OF 19:53.459 --> 19:54.158 CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN ALL KINDS OF RACES WHEN IT COMES TO K-12 19:54.160 --> 19:54.525 RACES WHEN IT COMES TO K-12 EDUCATION. 19:54.527 --> 19:55.193 EDUCATION. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER 19:55.195 --> 19:59.864 BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES THERE IN THE FUNDING AND, 19:59.866 --> 20:01.299 ISSUES THERE IN THE FUNDING AND, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING CHARTER 20:01.301 --> 20:02.133 YOU KNOW, EXPANDING CHARTER SCHOOLS AND IMPROVING TEACHER 20:02.135 --> 20:06.003 SCHOOLS AND IMPROVING TEACHER PAY. 20:06.005 --> 20:06.704 PAY. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT FRED 20:06.706 --> 20:07.305 A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT FRED DuVAL IS TALKING ABOUT. 20:07.307 --> 20:07.972 DuVAL IS TALKING ABOUT. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO HIGHER 20:07.974 --> 20:08.339 >> LET'S MOVE ON TO HIGHER EDUCATION. 20:08.341 --> 20:09.073 EDUCATION. JOE, HERE AT THE "ARIZONA DAILY 20:09.075 --> 20:09.774 JOE, HERE AT THE "ARIZONA DAILY STAR" YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING 20:09.776 --> 20:10.441 STAR" YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING SOME OF THE ADS COMING OUT. 20:10.443 --> 20:13.578 SOME OF THE ADS COMING OUT. ONE THAT CAME OUT RECENTLY 20:13.580 --> 20:14.779 ONE THAT CAME OUT RECENTLY PRETTY TERRIFYING FOR PEOPLE WHO 20:14.781 --> 20:16.514 PRETTY TERRIFYING FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WATCHING THE LOCAL NEWS 20:16.516 --> 20:17.582 MAY BE WATCHING THE LOCAL NEWS AND SEE THAT SUDDENLY. 20:17.584 --> 20:18.182 AND SEE THAT SUDDENLY. TELL US ABOUT THIS AD. 20:18.184 --> 20:18.916 TELL US ABOUT THIS AD. >> WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 20:18.918 --> 20:19.650 >> WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS AD TALKING 20:19.652 --> 20:24.222 REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS AD TALKING ABOUT EXPLAINING THE HIGHER 20:24.224 --> 20:29.794 ABOUT EXPLAINING THE HIGHER RATES OF TUITION, LINKING HIM TO 20:29.796 --> 20:30.962 RATES OF TUITION, LINKING HIM TO HIGHER EDUCATION WHEN HE WAS ON 20:30.964 --> 20:32.630 HIGHER EDUCATION WHEN HE WAS ON THE BOARD OF REGENTS BUT THE 20:32.632 --> 20:33.364 THE BOARD OF REGENTS BUT THE BOARD OF REGENTS IS TAKING MONEY 20:33.366 --> 20:34.098 BOARD OF REGENTS IS TAKING MONEY FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND 20:34.100 --> 20:34.765 FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR AND PUTTING IT 20:34.767 --> 20:35.933 THE GOVERNOR AND PUTTING IT TOWARDS THE THREE UNIVERSITIES. 20:35.935 --> 20:38.336 TOWARDS THE THREE UNIVERSITIES. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION OF 20:38.338 --> 20:39.503 SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION OF THE CUTS CAME FROM THE 20:39.505 --> 20:39.904 THE CUTS CAME FROM THE LEGISLATURE. 20:39.906 --> 20:45.576 LEGISLATURE. AND SO THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR'S 20:45.578 --> 20:46.210 AND SO THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION IS MAKING THE 20:46.212 --> 20:46.944 ASSOCIATION IS MAKING THE COMPARISON SAYING THAT DuVAL IS 20:46.946 --> 20:50.414 COMPARISON SAYING THAT DuVAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CUTS WHEN HE 20:50.416 --> 20:51.082 RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CUTS WHEN HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO 20:51.084 --> 20:51.816 DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE TUITION -- OR INCREASE 20:51.818 --> 20:55.253 INCREASE TUITION -- OR INCREASE REVENUE COMING IN. 20:55.255 --> 20:56.554 REVENUE COMING IN. SO IT'S A BIG ISSUE. 20:56.556 --> 20:58.356 SO IT'S A BIG ISSUE. >> OKAY, LET'S LISTEN IN ON THAT 20:58.358 --> 20:58.689 >> OKAY, LET'S LISTEN IN ON THAT AD NOW. 20:58.691 --> 20:59.390 AD NOW. >> IT KEEPS PARENTS AWAKE AT 20:59.392 --> 21:00.891 >> IT KEEPS PARENTS AWAKE AT NIGHT. 21:00.893 --> 21:01.626 NIGHT. WORRYING ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF 21:01.628 --> 21:05.696 WORRYING ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF COLLEGE TUITION. 21:05.698 --> 21:08.199 COLLEGE TUITION. AND IT GETS MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY 21:08.201 --> 21:08.599 AND IT GETS MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY YEAR. 21:08.601 --> 21:10.401 YEAR. IT'S JUST NOT FAIR, BUT LOBBYIST 21:10.403 --> 21:11.102 IT'S JUST NOT FAIR, BUT LOBBYIST FRED DuVAL VOTED TO INCREASE 21:11.104 --> 21:11.836 FRED DuVAL VOTED TO INCREASE COLLEGE TUITION ON THE BOARD OF 21:11.838 --> 21:12.169 COLLEGE TUITION ON THE BOARD OF REGENTS. 21:12.171 --> 21:17.141 REGENTS. UNDER DuVAL TUITION AND FEES 21:17.143 --> 21:21.746 UNDER DuVAL TUITION AND FEES ROSE 99% DOUBLING THE PRICE OF 21:21.748 --> 21:22.079 ROSE 99% DOUBLING THE PRICE OF COLLEGE. 21:22.081 --> 21:22.813 COLLEGE. COSTING ARIZONA STUDENTS NEARLY 21:22.815 --> 21:25.149 COSTING ARIZONA STUDENTS NEARLY $5,000 MORE A YEAR. 21:25.151 --> 21:26.884 $5,000 MORE A YEAR. LOBBYIST FRED DuVAL MADE MIDDLE 21:26.886 --> 21:27.818 LOBBYIST FRED DuVAL MADE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES PAY MORE. 21:27.820 --> 21:30.288 CLASS FAMILIES PAY MORE. COME ON, FRED, THAT'S NOT FAIR. 21:30.290 --> 21:31.022 COME ON, FRED, THAT'S NOT FAIR. >> NOW, WE TOOK A LOOK AT SOME 21:31.024 --> 21:31.489 >> NOW, WE TOOK A LOOK AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS. 21:31.491 --> 21:38.429 OF THE NUMBERS. IT'S NOT -- NOT TRUE. 21:38.431 --> 21:39.163 IT'S NOT -- NOT TRUE. IT IS TRUE, EXCUSE ME, THAT THE 21:39.165 --> 21:39.897 IT IS TRUE, EXCUSE ME, THAT THE COST FOR TUITION DID IN FACT GO 21:39.899 --> 21:40.164 COST FOR TUITION DID IN FACT GO UP. 21:40.166 --> 21:41.065 UP. >> ABSOLUTELY. 21:41.067 --> 21:41.799 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE DID SEE THE STATE CREATE 21:41.801 --> 21:42.500 >> WE DID SEE THE STATE CREATE SOME FUNDING -- FUNDING CUTS 21:42.502 --> 21:46.704 SOME FUNDING -- FUNDING CUTS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. 21:46.706 --> 21:48.572 DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. JEREMY, ADS LIKE THIS, DO THEY 21:48.574 --> 21:50.841 JEREMY, ADS LIKE THIS, DO THEY HELP OR HURT FRED WHO IS 21:50.843 --> 21:51.542 HELP OR HURT FRED WHO IS ACKNOWLEDGING, YES, THIS IS 21:51.544 --> 21:52.276 ACKNOWLEDGING, YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF THE 21:52.278 --> 21:52.877 SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL THAT HAD TO HAPPEN? 21:52.879 --> 21:53.611 DEAL THAT HAD TO HAPPEN? >> I MEAN, YEAH, PROBABLY DOES 21:53.613 --> 21:53.911 >> I MEAN, YEAH, PROBABLY DOES HURT. 21:53.913 --> 21:57.748 HURT. YOU KNOW, WHAT PARENT WANTS TO 21:57.750 --> 22:00.384 YOU KNOW, WHAT PARENT WANTS TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS GUY 22:00.386 --> 22:01.185 HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS GUY VOTED -- ASKING FOR THEIR VOTE, 22:01.187 --> 22:01.819 VOTED -- ASKING FOR THEIR VOTE, VOTED FOR ALL THE TUITION 22:01.821 --> 22:02.186 VOTED FOR ALL THE TUITION INCREASES. 22:02.188 --> 22:05.923 INCREASES. NOW OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, 22:05.925 --> 22:06.657 NOW OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY TRUE, BY SIDE STEPS 22:06.659 --> 22:07.358 TECHNICALLY TRUE, BY SIDE STEPS THAT MAJOR ISSUE BECAUSE, YOU 22:07.360 --> 22:11.762 THAT MAJOR ISSUE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MUCH LIKE K-12, BECAUSE OF 22:11.764 --> 22:13.664 KNOW, MUCH LIKE K-12, BECAUSE OF THE FISCAL CRISIS, THE 22:13.666 --> 22:15.433 THE FISCAL CRISIS, THE LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR BREWER 22:15.435 --> 22:16.734 LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR BREWER CUT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS FROM 22:16.736 --> 22:17.835 CUT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS FROM THE HIGHER EDUCATION BUDGET. 22:17.837 --> 22:20.204 THE HIGHER EDUCATION BUDGET. THE BOARD OF REGENTS, YOU KNOW, 22:20.206 --> 22:22.006 THE BOARD OF REGENTS, YOU KNOW, RESPONDED WITH ALL THESE TUITION 22:22.008 --> 22:22.373 RESPONDED WITH ALL THESE TUITION INCREASES. 22:22.375 --> 22:23.107 INCREASES. WHICH DID, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH 22:23.109 --> 22:23.741 WHICH DID, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH DOUBLE THE TUITION RATES. 22:23.743 --> 22:27.978 DOUBLE THE TUITION RATES. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT 22:27.980 --> 22:28.713 AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WELL, HE 22:28.715 --> 22:29.280 LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WELL, HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. 22:29.282 --> 22:32.750 DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WELL, 22:32.752 --> 22:36.587 OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO 22:36.589 --> 22:37.922 YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO RAISE IT SO MUCH. 22:37.924 --> 22:39.623 RAISE IT SO MUCH. BUT MOST OF THEM WERE 22:39.625 --> 22:40.024 BUT MOST OF THEM WERE AFTERWARDS. 22:40.026 --> 22:40.825 AFTERWARDS. BUT I THINK IT WILL BE AN 22:40.827 --> 22:42.960 BUT I THINK IT WILL BE AN EFFECTIVE HIT AND RIGHT NOW 22:42.962 --> 22:45.162 EFFECTIVE HIT AND RIGHT NOW UNFORTUNATELY FOR DuVAL, THE 22:45.164 --> 22:46.464 UNFORTUNATELY FOR DuVAL, THE RGA, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS 22:46.466 --> 22:47.465 RGA, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION, THEY'RE RUNNING A 22:47.467 --> 22:48.699 ASSOCIATION, THEY'RE RUNNING A LOT MORE ADS THAN HE'S RUNNING 22:48.701 --> 22:49.433 LOT MORE ADS THAN HE'S RUNNING RIGHT NOW. 22:49.435 --> 22:51.669 RIGHT NOW. HE'S KIND OF AN UNKNOWN TO MOST 22:51.671 --> 22:53.938 HE'S KIND OF AN UNKNOWN TO MOST VOTERS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE A 22:53.940 --> 22:54.271 VOTERS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE A PRIMARY. 22:54.273 --> 22:55.740 PRIMARY. SO AS VOTERS ARE JUST STARTING 22:55.742 --> 22:56.941 SO AS VOTERS ARE JUST STARTING TO LEARN ABOUT HIM, FOR A LOT OF 22:56.943 --> 22:58.776 TO LEARN ABOUT HIM, FOR A LOT OF THEM THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE 22:58.778 --> 22:59.143 THEM THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING. 22:59.145 --> 23:00.077 LEARNING. THIS MESSAGE. 23:00.079 --> 23:01.812 THIS MESSAGE. >> AND JOE, WE TALKED ABOUT 23:01.814 --> 23:02.113 >> AND JOE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 23:02.115 --> 23:02.847 THIS. THIS AD CAME OUT NOW IN SPANISH, 23:02.849 --> 23:03.481 THIS AD CAME OUT NOW IN SPANISH, SO IT'S GAINING SOME MORE 23:03.483 --> 23:04.448 SO IT'S GAINING SOME MORE TRACTION IF YOU WILL AS THE TIME 23:04.450 --> 23:09.887 TRACTION IF YOU WILL AS THE TIME GETS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER HERE. 23:09.889 --> 23:11.255 GETS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER HERE. BUT HE HAS SAID, LOOK THIS IS 23:11.257 --> 23:11.989 BUT HE HAS SAID, LOOK THIS IS PART OF WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. 23:11.991 --> 23:12.723 PART OF WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. WE CREATED OTHER SITUATIONS TO 23:12.725 --> 23:17.795 WE CREATED OTHER SITUATIONS TO TRY AND HELP EASE THAT COST 23:17.797 --> 23:18.896 TRY AND HELP EASE THAT COST ISSUE THAT STUDENTS WERE FACING. 23:18.898 --> 23:19.597 ISSUE THAT STUDENTS WERE FACING. BUT DO VOTERS EVEN HEAR THAT 23:19.599 --> 23:20.064 BUT DO VOTERS EVEN HEAR THAT MESSAGE ANYMORE? 23:20.066 --> 23:24.702 MESSAGE ANYMORE? >> NO, THEY DON'T. 23:24.704 --> 23:26.737 >> NO, THEY DON'T. THEY HAVE -- THEY HEAR THE 23:26.739 --> 23:28.639 THEY HAVE -- THEY HEAR THE NUMBER, THE NUMBER OF TUITION 23:28.641 --> 23:29.006 NUMBER, THE NUMBER OF TUITION DOUBLING. 23:29.008 --> 23:30.174 DOUBLING. THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE FOCUSED ON 23:30.176 --> 23:33.043 THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE FOCUSED ON THE PILOT PROGRAMS AND ALL THE 23:33.045 --> 23:34.779 THE PILOT PROGRAMS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE 23:34.781 --> 23:35.646 OTHER THINGS THAT WERE MITIGATING THE COSTS AREN'T WHAT 23:35.648 --> 23:39.049 MITIGATING THE COSTS AREN'T WHAT MOST STUDENTS PAID FOR AND WHAT 23:39.051 --> 23:39.750 MOST STUDENTS PAID FOR AND WHAT PARENTS HAD THE APPROVE LOANS 23:39.752 --> 23:40.050 PARENTS HAD THE APPROVE LOANS FOR. 23:40.052 --> 23:40.785 FOR. >> ONE OF THE THINGS HE TALKED 23:40.787 --> 23:41.452 >> ONE OF THE THINGS HE TALKED ABOUT IN THE INTERVIEW, HIM 23:41.454 --> 23:43.621 ABOUT IN THE INTERVIEW, HIM SAYING THAT WE COULD HAVE CLOSED 23:43.623 --> 23:44.355 SAYING THAT WE COULD HAVE CLOSED UNIVERSITIES OR CUT PROGRAMS AND 23:44.357 --> 23:45.756 UNIVERSITIES OR CUT PROGRAMS AND THAT WAS SOMETHING WE SIMPLY 23:45.758 --> 23:51.929 THAT WAS SOMETHING WE SIMPLY COULD NOT AFFORD TO DO. 23:51.931 --> 23:53.030 COULD NOT AFFORD TO DO. JOE, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT 23:53.032 --> 23:53.831 JOE, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING 23:53.833 --> 23:57.134 MEANS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING AT HOME AND THINKING, WOW, YOU 23:57.136 --> 23:57.868 AT HOME AND THINKING, WOW, YOU REALLY DID HELP US THOUGH IT DID 23:57.870 --> 23:58.169 REALLY DID HELP US THOUGH IT DID HURT. 23:58.171 --> 23:58.903 HURT. >> A LOT OF PASSION IN TERMS OF 23:58.905 --> 24:03.073 >> A LOT OF PASSION IN TERMS OF EDUCATION, SO I'M NOT REALLY 24:03.075 --> 24:03.374 EDUCATION, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE. 24:03.376 --> 24:04.775 SURE. >> JEREMY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? 24:04.777 --> 24:05.509 >> JEREMY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I'M -- WELL, YOU KNOW, KIND 24:05.511 --> 24:06.043 >> I'M -- WELL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BALANCING GAME. 24:06.045 --> 24:13.017 OF A BALANCING GAME. AS YOU LOOK BACK AT, YOU KNOW, 24:13.019 --> 24:13.751 AS YOU LOOK BACK AT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROP 100, THE 24:13.753 --> 24:14.452 FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROP 100, THE TEMPORARY SALES TAX INCREASE, 24:14.454 --> 24:15.186 TEMPORARY SALES TAX INCREASE, THAT WAS PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY 24:15.188 --> 24:15.886 THAT WAS PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY IN -- BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WERE 24:15.888 --> 24:19.290 IN -- BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO PAY MORE TO OFF SET 24:19.292 --> 24:22.893 WILLING TO PAY MORE TO OFF SET SOME OF THE CUTS TO THINGS LIKE 24:22.895 --> 24:24.361 SOME OF THE CUTS TO THINGS LIKE K-12 EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY. 24:24.363 --> 24:26.230 K-12 EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT STILL CUTS TO THOSE THINGS. 24:26.232 --> 24:27.531 BUT STILL CUTS TO THOSE THINGS. THIS WAS AN OFF SET. 24:27.533 --> 24:29.166 THIS WAS AN OFF SET. SO PEOPLE -- WOULD PEOPLE HAVE 24:29.168 --> 24:30.501 SO PEOPLE -- WOULD PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WILLING TO PASS A TAX HIKE 24:30.503 --> 24:41.111 BEEN WILLING TO PASS A TAX HIKE THREE TIMES AS LARGE TO 24:41.113 --> 24:41.846 THREE TIMES AS LARGE TO ELIMINATE OR FOUR TIMES AS LARGE 24:41.848 --> 24:42.580 ELIMINATE OR FOUR TIMES AS LARGE TO ELIMINATE ALL THE CUTS, MAYBE 24:42.582 --> 24:43.080 TO ELIMINATE ALL THE CUTS, MAYBE NOT QUITE SO MUCH. 24:43.082 --> 24:43.747 NOT QUITE SO MUCH. DuVAL HAS A STRONG POINT, A 24:43.749 --> 24:44.381 DuVAL HAS A STRONG POINT, A STRONG CRITIQUE OF THE AD. 24:44.383 --> 24:45.115 STRONG CRITIQUE OF THE AD. A CHEAP SHOT IN A LOT OF WAYS, 24:45.117 --> 24:45.716 A CHEAP SHOT IN A LOT OF WAYS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE 24:45.718 --> 24:46.750 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO MAKE THE 24:46.752 --> 24:47.785 LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO MAKE THE CUTS AND PASS THE BUCK TO 24:47.787 --> 24:48.486 CUTS AND PASS THE BUCK TO SOMEONE ELSE. 24:48.488 --> 24:49.587 SOMEONE ELSE. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO HAD TO DEAL 24:49.589 --> 24:49.920 THEY'RE THE ONES WHO HAD TO DEAL WITH IT. 24:49.922 --> 24:50.654 WITH IT. BUT WILL PEOPLE FORGIVE DOUBLING 24:50.656 --> 24:55.960 BUT WILL PEOPLE FORGIVE DOUBLING TUITION IN, YOU KNOW, THE SPAN 24:55.962 --> 24:57.695 TUITION IN, YOU KNOW, THE SPAN OF WHAT, SEVEN YEARS OR SO. 24:57.697 --> 25:01.632 OF WHAT, SEVEN YEARS OR SO. YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HARDER -- A 25:01.634 --> 25:02.233 YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HARDER -- A LITTLE HARDER TO GAUGE. 25:02.235 --> 25:03.534 LITTLE HARDER TO GAUGE. >> OKAY. 25:03.536 --> 25:03.934 >> OKAY. WELL, OKAY. 25:03.936 --> 25:04.668 WELL, OKAY. WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT IN A FEW 25:04.670 --> 25:04.969 WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT IN A FEW WEEKS. 25:04.971 --> 25:13.043 WEEKS. HE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND 25:13.045 --> 25:13.711 HE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND THE BORDER AND HE SAID THE 25:13.713 --> 25:14.411 THE BORDER AND HE SAID THE BORDER IS NOT AS SECURE AS IT 25:14.413 --> 25:14.778 BORDER IS NOT AS SECURE AS IT COULD BE. 25:14.780 --> 25:15.446 COULD BE. WHAT IMPRESSION DID YOU GET 25:15.448 --> 25:22.353 WHAT IMPRESSION DID YOU GET ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS MOVING 25:22.355 --> 25:23.053 ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS MOVING FORWARD WITH BORDER SECURITY? 25:23.055 --> 25:23.787 FORWARD WITH BORDER SECURITY? >> HE TALKS A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT 25:23.789 --> 25:24.522 >> HE TALKS A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A 25:24.524 --> 25:25.256 HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT ARE PRETTY 25:25.258 --> 25:25.823 COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH DEAD ON ARRIVAL. 25:25.825 --> 25:26.457 MUCH DEAD ON ARRIVAL. THE IDEA THAT THE FEDERAL 25:26.459 --> 25:27.191 THE IDEA THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO PAY FOR 25:27.193 --> 25:27.825 GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO PAY FOR TROOPS ON THE BORDERS IS 25:27.827 --> 25:28.559 TROOPS ON THE BORDERS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS NOT 25:28.561 --> 25:29.193 SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS NOT REALLY A PRIORITY FOR HIM. 25:29.195 --> 25:30.961 REALLY A PRIORITY FOR HIM. IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE'S LOOKING 25:30.963 --> 25:31.695 IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE'S LOOKING FOR OTHER SOLUTIONS IN TERMS OF 25:31.697 --> 25:32.429 FOR OTHER SOLUTIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STATE CAN DO IN TERMS 25:32.431 --> 25:37.968 WHAT THE STATE CAN DO IN TERMS OF SECURING THE BORDER. 25:37.970 --> 25:39.737 OF SECURING THE BORDER. IT'S MORE WORKING WITH LOCAL LAW 25:39.739 --> 25:40.437 IT'S MORE WORKING WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, LOBBYING THE 25:40.439 --> 25:41.138 ENFORCEMENT, LOBBYING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THINGS OF 25:41.140 --> 25:41.572 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 25:41.574 --> 25:42.006 THAT NATURE. >> ALL RIGHT. 25:42.008 --> 25:42.706 >> ALL RIGHT. JEREMY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE 25:42.708 --> 25:46.577 JEREMY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE ECONOMY AND DOUG DUCEY REALLY 25:46.579 --> 25:48.078 ECONOMY AND DOUG DUCEY REALLY TALKING ABOUT HIS HOPE FOR THE 25:48.080 --> 25:49.480 TALKING ABOUT HIS HOPE FOR THE ECONOMY AND WE SAW A NEW AD THAT 25:49.482 --> 25:50.681 ECONOMY AND WE SAW A NEW AD THAT CAME OUT WHERE HE SAYS THAT HE 25:50.683 --> 25:54.151 CAME OUT WHERE HE SAYS THAT HE DID WONDERS IN A BUSINESS, COLD 25:54.153 --> 25:55.853 DID WONDERS IN A BUSINESS, COLD STONE CREAMERY. 25:55.855 --> 25:57.354 STONE CREAMERY. ARE VOTERS LISTENING TO THAT, 25:57.356 --> 25:59.023 ARE VOTERS LISTENING TO THAT, THINKING THIS IS THE RIGHT MAN 25:59.025 --> 26:01.058 THINKING THIS IS THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS 26:01.060 --> 26:02.293 FOR THE JOB SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS HIS RESUME? 26:02.295 --> 26:03.060 IS HIS RESUME? >> WHEN THE CANDIDATE WANTS TO 26:03.062 --> 26:04.395 >> WHEN THE CANDIDATE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT GROWING THE ECONOMY, 26:04.397 --> 26:05.596 TALK ABOUT GROWING THE ECONOMY, HAVING THAT KIND OF BUSINESS 26:05.598 --> 26:06.664 HAVING THAT KIND OF BUSINESS RESUME CAN BE -- YOU KNOW, THAT 26:06.666 --> 26:08.098 RESUME CAN BE -- YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE A MAJOR PLUS. 26:08.100 --> 26:09.400 CAN BE A MAJOR PLUS. NOW OF COURSE, AS WE SAW IT 26:09.402 --> 26:11.201 NOW OF COURSE, AS WE SAW IT DURING THE PRIMARY, DUCEY HAS 26:11.203 --> 26:13.203 DURING THE PRIMARY, DUCEY HAS SOME KNOCKS AGAINST HIS BUSINESS 26:13.205 --> 26:15.039 SOME KNOCKS AGAINST HIS BUSINESS RECORD AS WELL WHICH I'M SURE 26:15.041 --> 26:16.874 RECORD AS WELL WHICH I'M SURE FRED DuVAL WILL TRY TO EXPLOIT. 26:16.876 --> 26:18.242 FRED DuVAL WILL TRY TO EXPLOIT. THAT LENDS SOME CREDIBILITY WHEN 26:18.244 --> 26:19.276 THAT LENDS SOME CREDIBILITY WHEN YOU CAN SAY I BUILT THIS 26:19.278 --> 26:21.178 YOU CAN SAY I BUILT THIS BUSINESS AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN 26:21.180 --> 26:22.446 BUSINESS AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN TALKING ABOUT COLD STONE 26:22.448 --> 26:23.180 TALKING ABOUT COLD STONE CREAMERY EVERYONE IN THE STATE 26:23.182 --> 26:23.847 CREAMERY EVERYONE IN THE STATE PROBABLY DRIVES PAST TWO OR 26:23.849 --> 26:24.515 PROBABLY DRIVES PAST TWO OR THREE OF THEM ON THE WAY TO 26:24.517 --> 26:24.815 THREE OF THEM ON THE WAY TO WORK. 26:24.817 --> 26:25.449 WORK. THEY SEE THEM EVERYWHERE. 26:25.451 --> 26:27.651 THEY SEE THEM EVERYWHERE. THIS IS A HUGE BUSINESS. 26:27.653 --> 26:28.919 THIS IS A HUGE BUSINESS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE 26:28.921 --> 26:29.954 PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE STATE FOR A LONG TIME HAVE BEEN, 26:29.956 --> 26:31.622 STATE FOR A LONG TIME HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, SEEING THEM FOR 20 26:31.624 --> 26:31.922 YOU KNOW, SEEING THEM FOR 20 YEARS. 26:31.924 --> 26:33.157 YEARS. I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT 26:33.159 --> 26:34.091 I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT HELPS HIM OUT WHEN THEY CAN 26:34.093 --> 26:34.792 HELPS HIM OUT WHEN THEY CAN ASSOCIATE HIM WITH SOMETHING 26:34.794 --> 26:35.492 ASSOCIATE HIM WITH SOMETHING THAT VOTERS I THINK GENERALLY 26:35.494 --> 26:40.130 THAT VOTERS I THINK GENERALLY ASSOCIATE AS A SUCCESSFUL BRAND. 26:40.132 --> 26:40.564 ASSOCIATE AS A SUCCESSFUL BRAND. >> OKAY. 26:40.566 --> 26:42.132 >> OKAY. AND JOE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU 26:42.134 --> 26:43.233 AND JOE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD ON THIS. 26:43.235 --> 26:44.234 THE LAST WORD ON THIS. MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE GOT 26:44.236 --> 26:44.835 MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE GOT ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO GO. 26:44.837 --> 26:46.837 ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO GO. WE'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS 26:46.839 --> 26:48.105 WE'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS ESCALATE QUITE A BIT FOR THIS 26:48.107 --> 26:48.405 ESCALATE QUITE A BIT FOR THIS RACE. 26:48.407 --> 26:48.739 RACE. >> YEAH. 26:48.741 --> 26:49.974 >> YEAH. WE CAN EXPECT A LOT OF ADS. 26:49.976 --> 26:53.110 WE CAN EXPECT A LOT OF ADS. WE CAN EXPECT A LOT OF VISITS 26:53.112 --> 26:57.214 WE CAN EXPECT A LOT OF VISITS HERE IN TOWN FOR THE CANDIDATES 26:57.216 --> 26:57.948 HERE IN TOWN FOR THE CANDIDATES AS THEY TRY TO GRAB INDEPENDENT 26:57.950 --> 26:59.783 AS THEY TRY TO GRAB INDEPENDENT VOTERS IN THE COUNTIES. 26:59.785 --> 27:01.385 VOTERS IN THE COUNTIES. >> JEREMY, THESE TWO GUYS ARE 27:01.387 --> 27:02.519 >> JEREMY, THESE TWO GUYS ARE FRIENDS AND THEY HAVE A PRETTY 27:02.521 --> 27:06.890 FRIENDS AND THEY HAVE A PRETTY DECENT RELATIONSHIP. 27:06.892 --> 27:07.625 DECENT RELATIONSHIP. SO HOW DOES THIS MOVE FORWARD IN 27:07.627 --> 27:08.158 SO HOW DOES THIS MOVE FORWARD IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS? 27:08.160 --> 27:10.628 THE LAST FEW WEEKS? >> I MEAN, IT WILL BE A NASTY 27:10.630 --> 27:10.928 >> I MEAN, IT WILL BE A NASTY FIGHT. 27:10.930 --> 27:14.832 FIGHT. I THINK DuVAL AND DUCEY WILL TRY 27:14.834 --> 27:15.566 I THINK DuVAL AND DUCEY WILL TRY TO STAY AS POSITIVE AS THEY CAN. 27:15.568 --> 27:19.003 TO STAY AS POSITIVE AS THEY CAN. BUT THAT'S WHAT INDEPENDENT 27:19.005 --> 27:19.870 BUT THAT'S WHAT INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES ARE FOR AS WE HAVE 27:19.872 --> 27:22.139 EXPENDITURES ARE FOR AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH THE REPUBLICANS 27:22.141 --> 27:25.909 SEEN WITH THE REPUBLICANS GOVERNOR ASSOCIATION. 27:25.911 --> 27:26.610 GOVERNOR ASSOCIATION. THAT PRIMARY THAT DUCEY JUST 27:26.612 --> 27:27.277 THAT PRIMARY THAT DUCEY JUST WON, THAT WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. 27:27.279 --> 27:28.012 WON, THAT WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. THERE WAS A LOT OF MUD SLINGING. 27:28.014 --> 27:28.846 THERE WAS A LOT OF MUD SLINGING. I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE 27:28.848 --> 27:30.047 I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE ALL THAT MUCH AS WE HEAD TO 27:30.049 --> 27:30.414 ALL THAT MUCH AS WE HEAD TO NOVEMBER. 27:30.416 --> 27:30.814 NOVEMBER. >> OKAY. 27:30.816 --> 27:32.616 >> OKAY. A LOT ON THE LINE. 27:32.618 --> 27:33.717 A LOT ON THE LINE. OF COURSE, ARIZONA HERE. 27:33.719 --> 27:34.618 OF COURSE, ARIZONA HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, GENTLEMEN, 27:34.620 --> 27:35.819 THANK YOU SO MUCH, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. 27:35.821 --> 27:36.920 FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PROGRAM. 27:36.922 --> 27:39.390 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PROGRAM. FOR NEXT WEEK WE HAVE INVITED 27:39.392 --> 27:43.127 FOR NEXT WEEK WE HAVE INVITED REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL 27:43.129 --> 27:43.794 REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE DOUG DUCEY FOR A 27:43.796 --> 27:44.361 CANDIDATE DOUG DUCEY FOR A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW. 27:44.363 --> 27:46.897 ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW. FROM ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC 27:46.899 --> 27:47.664 FROM ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC ME