1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,574 >>> A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR 2 00:00:08,576 --> 00:00:09,074 THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR ARIZONA GOVERNOR. 3 00:00:09,076 --> 00:00:13,679 ARIZONA GOVERNOR. >> CRITICAL MOMENT IN THE STATE 4 00:00:13,681 --> 00:00:15,514 >> CRITICAL MOMENT IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND I LOVE THIS 5 00:00:15,516 --> 00:00:15,814 OF ARIZONA AND I LOVE THIS STATE. 6 00:00:15,816 --> 00:00:17,483 STATE. I BELIEVE THIS IS A PIONEERING 7 00:00:17,485 --> 00:00:17,883 I BELIEVE THIS IS A PIONEERING STATE. 8 00:00:17,885 --> 00:00:19,651 STATE. WHEN I GREW UP HERE IN TUCSON, 9 00:00:19,653 --> 00:00:20,285 WHEN I GREW UP HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA WAS A PLACE THAT 10 00:00:20,287 --> 00:00:21,453 ARIZONA WAS A PLACE THAT EVERYONE WANTED TO COME. 11 00:00:21,455 --> 00:00:23,288 EVERYONE WANTED TO COME. BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE. 12 00:00:23,290 --> 00:00:24,423 BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE. >> AND THE REPORTER ROUNDTABLE 13 00:00:24,425 --> 00:00:28,861 >> AND THE REPORTER ROUNDTABLE WITH AN ANALYSIS OF THE UPCOMING 14 00:00:28,863 --> 00:00:29,161 WITH AN ANALYSIS OF THE UPCOMING RACE. 15 00:00:29,163 --> 00:00:31,530 RACE. >> THAT PRIMARY, THAT DUCEY JUST 16 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:32,798 >> THAT PRIMARY, THAT DUCEY JUST WON, THAT WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. 17 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,899 WON, THAT WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. A LOT OF MUD SLINGING. 18 00:00:33,901 --> 00:00:35,434 A LOT OF MUD SLINGING. I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE 19 00:00:35,436 --> 00:00:37,236 I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE ALL THAT MUCH AS WE HEAD TOWARDS 20 00:00:37,238 --> 00:00:37,603 ALL THAT MUCH AS WE HEAD TOWARDS NOVEMBER. 21 00:00:37,605 --> 00:00:44,710 NOVEMBER. >> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 22 00:00:44,712 --> 00:00:45,310 >> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." FRED DuVAL IS ARIZONA'S 23 00:00:45,312 --> 00:00:50,382 FRED DuVAL IS ARIZONA'S DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR 24 00:00:50,384 --> 00:00:50,749 DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR. 25 00:00:50,751 --> 00:00:52,618 GOVERNOR. TWO MONTHS UNTIL VOTERS HEAD TO 26 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:54,219 TWO MONTHS UNTIL VOTERS HEAD TO THE POLLS, HE IS ON THE CAMPAIGN 27 00:00:54,221 --> 00:00:57,556 THE POLLS, HE IS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND MAKING STOPS ALL OVER 28 00:00:57,558 --> 00:00:58,157 TRAIL AND MAKING STOPS ALL OVER THE STATE, INCLUDING AN 29 00:00:58,159 --> 00:00:58,857 THE STATE, INCLUDING AN INTERVIEW WITH ARIZONA PUBLIC 30 00:00:58,859 --> 00:01:02,494 INTERVIEW WITH ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA STUDIOS IN TUCSON. 31 00:01:02,496 --> 00:01:04,763 MEDIA STUDIOS IN TUCSON. FRED DuVAL, DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE 32 00:01:04,765 --> 00:01:08,667 FRED DuVAL, DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR 33 00:01:08,669 --> 00:01:09,068 FOR GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 34 00:01:09,070 --> 00:01:09,735 BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 35 00:01:09,737 --> 00:01:10,769 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> LET'S GET TO IT. 36 00:01:10,771 --> 00:01:15,107 >> LET'S GET TO IT. ONE OF YOUR MAJOR PLATFORMS IS 37 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:15,474 ONE OF YOUR MAJOR PLATFORMS IS EDUCATION. 38 00:01:15,476 --> 00:01:16,141 EDUCATION. YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 39 00:01:16,143 --> 00:01:16,875 YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THIS STATE. 40 00:01:16,877 --> 00:01:17,543 EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THIS STATE. >> WE HAVE TO STOP THE CUTS. 41 00:01:17,545 --> 00:01:18,243 >> WE HAVE TO STOP THE CUTS. WE CUT DEEPER THAN ANY OTHER 42 00:01:18,245 --> 00:01:25,984 WE CUT DEEPER THAN ANY OTHER STATE IN THE UNITED STATES AND 43 00:01:25,986 --> 00:01:26,718 STATE IN THE UNITED STATES AND WE HAVE NOW SEEN THE RESULTS OF 44 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,152 WE HAVE NOW SEEN THE RESULTS OF THAT DECISION. 45 00:01:27,154 --> 00:01:27,786 THAT DECISION. WE LOSE ONE-THIRD OF THE 46 00:01:27,788 --> 00:01:28,754 WE LOSE ONE-THIRD OF THE TEACHERS EVERY YEAR. 47 00:01:28,756 --> 00:01:30,589 TEACHERS EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE THE LARGEST CLASS SIZES 48 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:34,393 WE HAVE THE LARGEST CLASS SIZES IN THE UNITED STATES. 49 00:01:34,395 --> 00:01:35,027 IN THE UNITED STATES. THESE ARE NOT OPTIMAL FOR 50 00:01:35,029 --> 00:01:35,761 THESE ARE NOT OPTIMAL FOR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT ACROSS EVERY 51 00:01:35,763 --> 00:01:36,095 STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT ACROSS EVERY SCHOOL. 52 00:01:36,097 --> 00:01:37,296 SCHOOL. WE'RE BALKANIZING THE SYSTEM. 53 00:01:37,298 --> 00:01:38,230 WE'RE BALKANIZING THE SYSTEM. SOME HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY THAN 54 00:01:38,232 --> 00:01:38,564 SOME HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY THAN OTHERS. 55 00:01:38,566 --> 00:01:42,101 OTHERS. I'M IN FAVOR OF A CHOICE 56 00:01:42,103 --> 00:01:42,501 I'M IN FAVOR OF A CHOICE ENVIRONMENT. 57 00:01:42,503 --> 00:01:43,735 ENVIRONMENT. I THINK PARENTS SHOULD HAVE A 58 00:01:43,737 --> 00:01:44,937 I THINK PARENTS SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE, BUT A GOOD CHOICE AND A 59 00:01:44,939 --> 00:01:47,039 CHOICE, BUT A GOOD CHOICE AND A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE KIND 60 00:01:47,041 --> 00:01:48,440 GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE KIND OF EDUCATION WE WANT. 61 00:01:48,442 --> 00:01:50,042 OF EDUCATION WE WANT. SO WE HAVE THE SKILL SETS FOR 62 00:01:50,044 --> 00:01:51,310 SO WE HAVE THE SKILL SETS FOR THE CHILDREN OF THE FUTURE. 63 00:01:51,312 --> 00:01:53,045 THE CHILDREN OF THE FUTURE. >> WHEN IT COMES TO 64 00:01:53,047 --> 00:01:54,480 >> WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS HOW DO YOU 65 00:01:54,482 --> 00:01:56,115 SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS HOW DO YOU COMPARE TO KIDS IN BORDER TOWNS 66 00:01:56,117 --> 00:01:58,484 COMPARE TO KIDS IN BORDER TOWNS LIKE DOUGLAS AND HOW DO THEY GET 67 00:01:58,486 --> 00:01:59,418 LIKE DOUGLAS AND HOW DO THEY GET EDUCATION IN THE PREMIERE 68 00:01:59,420 --> 00:02:00,719 EDUCATION IN THE PREMIERE SCHOOLS IN THE PHOENIX AREA? 69 00:02:00,721 --> 00:02:01,453 SCHOOLS IN THE PHOENIX AREA? >> IT'S A TOUGH AREA, AND SCHOOL 70 00:02:01,455 --> 00:02:02,187 >> IT'S A TOUGH AREA, AND SCHOOL EQUALIZATION, WE HAVE TO ENSURE 71 00:02:02,189 --> 00:02:06,658 EQUALIZATION, WE HAVE TO ENSURE WE CAN KEEP GOOD TEACHERS AND 72 00:02:06,660 --> 00:02:07,292 WE CAN KEEP GOOD TEACHERS AND HAVE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE 73 00:02:07,294 --> 00:02:07,659 HAVE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE EFFECTIVE. 74 00:02:07,661 --> 00:02:09,094 EFFECTIVE. IT IS REALLY THE TEACHER 75 00:02:09,096 --> 00:02:12,865 IT IS REALLY THE TEACHER SITUATION IS REALLY I WANT TO 76 00:02:12,867 --> 00:02:13,599 SITUATION IS REALLY I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE-THIRD OF THE 77 00:02:13,601 --> 00:02:15,467 EMPHASIZE ONE-THIRD OF THE TEACHERS EVERY YEAR. 78 00:02:15,469 --> 00:02:16,835 TEACHERS EVERY YEAR. THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS 79 00:02:16,837 --> 00:02:17,503 THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS DESCRIBE SEVENTH GRADE MATH 80 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:20,606 DESCRIBE SEVENTH GRADE MATH WHERE THEY CAN'T GET A MATH 81 00:02:20,608 --> 00:02:21,340 WHERE THEY CAN'T GET A MATH TEACHER, SO THEY GET SUBSTITUTE 82 00:02:21,342 --> 00:02:21,907 TEACHER, SO THEY GET SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS BY THE WEEK. 83 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:22,441 TEACHERS BY THE WEEK. DIFFERENT TEACHERS. 84 00:02:22,443 --> 00:02:25,611 DIFFERENT TEACHERS. REALLY NOT IDEAL AT ALL. 85 00:02:25,613 --> 00:02:26,345 REALLY NOT IDEAL AT ALL. AND RURAL ARIZONA IS 86 00:02:26,347 --> 00:02:26,945 AND RURAL ARIZONA IS PARTICULARLY CHALLENGED. 87 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:29,781 PARTICULARLY CHALLENGED. THE FUNDING FORMULA IS NOT FAIR 88 00:02:29,783 --> 00:02:30,849 THE FUNDING FORMULA IS NOT FAIR TO THEM ON THAT END. 89 00:02:30,851 --> 00:02:33,685 TO THEM ON THAT END. I THINK THAT TALENT IS EQUALLY 90 00:02:33,687 --> 00:02:38,190 I THINK THAT TALENT IS EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED, BUT OPPORTUNITY IS 91 00:02:38,192 --> 00:02:38,457 DISTRIBUTED, BUT OPPORTUNITY IS NOT. 92 00:02:38,459 --> 00:02:39,124 NOT. OUR REAL GOOD IS HOW DO YOU 93 00:02:39,126 --> 00:02:39,791 OUR REAL GOOD IS HOW DO YOU CLOSE THE GAP SO THAT EVERY 94 00:02:39,793 --> 00:02:40,859 CLOSE THE GAP SO THAT EVERY CHILD NO MATTER WHERE THEY START 95 00:02:40,861 --> 00:02:42,427 CHILD NO MATTER WHERE THEY START IN LIFE HAS THE FULL OPPORTUNITY 96 00:02:42,429 --> 00:02:43,529 IN LIFE HAS THE FULL OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEIR GOD GIVEN TALENTS 97 00:02:43,531 --> 00:02:44,229 TO BRING THEIR GOD GIVEN TALENTS INTO OUR ECONOMY AND INTO OUR 98 00:02:44,231 --> 00:02:44,563 INTO OUR ECONOMY AND INTO OUR LIVES. 99 00:02:44,565 --> 00:02:51,703 LIVES. >> HOW DO YOU CONVINCE RECENT 100 00:02:51,705 --> 00:02:53,972 >> HOW DO YOU CONVINCE RECENT GRADUATES OF THE ARIZONA 101 00:02:53,974 --> 00:02:56,175 GRADUATES OF THE ARIZONA UNIVERSITIES TO GO AND LIVE IN 102 00:02:56,177 --> 00:02:56,608 UNIVERSITIES TO GO AND LIVE IN REMOTE AREAS? 103 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:57,309 REMOTE AREAS? >> IT'S A CHALLENGE IN RURAL 104 00:02:57,311 --> 00:03:00,979 >> IT'S A CHALLENGE IN RURAL AREAS BUT WHAT'S A BIGGER 105 00:03:00,981 --> 00:03:01,914 AREAS BUT WHAT'S A BIGGER CHALLENGE THAN THAT IS EVEN 106 00:03:01,916 --> 00:03:02,714 CHALLENGE THAN THAT IS EVEN STAYING IN ARIZONA. 107 00:03:02,716 --> 00:03:04,917 STAYING IN ARIZONA. I WAS AT A CLEAR HERE OF U OF A, 108 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,718 I WAS AT A CLEAR HERE OF U OF A, I ASKED HOW MANY OF YOU LIVE 109 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,286 I ASKED HOW MANY OF YOU LIVE HERE -- ARE FROM ADD? 110 00:03:07,288 --> 00:03:07,819 HERE -- ARE FROM ADD? TWO-THIRDS SAID YES. 111 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:08,554 TWO-THIRDS SAID YES. THEN I SAID HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE 112 00:03:08,556 --> 00:03:11,990 THEN I SAID HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO STAY HERE 113 00:03:11,992 --> 00:03:16,061 MADE THE COMMITMENT TO STAY HERE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES? 114 00:03:16,063 --> 00:03:16,595 FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES? THREE HANDS WENT UP. 115 00:03:16,597 --> 00:03:17,296 THREE HANDS WENT UP. I CALLED THE BOARD OF REGENTS 116 00:03:17,298 --> 00:03:18,197 I CALLED THE BOARD OF REGENTS WHERE I USED TO SERVE AS 117 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:19,898 WHERE I USED TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT 118 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:21,700 CHAIRMAN, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE DEPARTURE RATE OF GRADUATES? 119 00:03:21,702 --> 00:03:22,868 THE DEPARTURE RATE OF GRADUATES? IT'S BECOMING A RECORD LEVEL. 120 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:27,139 IT'S BECOMING A RECORD LEVEL. SO WE'RE LOSING TALENT NOT JUST 121 00:03:27,141 --> 00:03:27,873 SO WE'RE LOSING TALENT NOT JUST A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT 122 00:03:27,875 --> 00:03:28,607 A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT HELPS REVITALIZE RURAL ARIZONA, 123 00:03:28,609 --> 00:03:29,441 HELPS REVITALIZE RURAL ARIZONA, BUT WHETHER WE CAN KEEP IT IN 124 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:30,409 BUT WHETHER WE CAN KEEP IT IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA OR WHETHER 125 00:03:30,411 --> 00:03:31,109 THE STATE OF ARIZONA OR WHETHER THEY'RE JUST COMPELLED BY THE 126 00:03:31,111 --> 00:03:31,777 THEY'RE JUST COMPELLED BY THE STRONGER ECONOMIES OF OTHER 127 00:03:31,779 --> 00:03:32,511 STRONGER ECONOMIES OF OTHER PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES AND 128 00:03:32,513 --> 00:03:34,446 PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THIS LONG TERM BRAIN DRAIN AND 129 00:03:34,448 --> 00:03:35,614 THIS LONG TERM BRAIN DRAIN AND TALENT DRAIN IS GOING TO CAUSE 130 00:03:35,616 --> 00:03:38,650 TALENT DRAIN IS GOING TO CAUSE LONG TERM LOSS OF JOBS, LOSS OF 131 00:03:38,652 --> 00:03:43,655 LONG TERM LOSS OF JOBS, LOSS OF GROWTH, LOSS OF OPPORTUNITY AND 132 00:03:43,657 --> 00:03:45,057 GROWTH, LOSS OF OPPORTUNITY AND I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. 133 00:03:45,059 --> 00:03:46,825 I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. >> HOW DO YOU CONVINCE THE 134 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:47,626 >> HOW DO YOU CONVINCE THE LEGISLATURE TO START SPENDING 135 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:49,761 LEGISLATURE TO START SPENDING MORE MONEY ON EDUCATION? 136 00:03:49,763 --> 00:03:52,097 MORE MONEY ON EDUCATION? >> THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS 137 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:52,464 >> THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS CRITICAL. 138 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:54,099 CRITICAL. I MAKE PRO -- I'M A PRO BUSINESS 139 00:03:54,101 --> 00:03:54,366 I MAKE PRO -- I'M A PRO BUSINESS GUY. 140 00:03:54,368 --> 00:03:55,767 GUY. WE HAVE TO GROW THE BUSINESS 141 00:03:55,769 --> 00:03:59,705 WE HAVE TO GROW THE BUSINESS ECONOMY IN ARIZONA. 142 00:03:59,707 --> 00:04:00,472 ECONOMY IN ARIZONA. I MEAN, COMPETITIVE TAX RATE. 143 00:04:00,474 --> 00:04:01,707 I MEAN, COMPETITIVE TAX RATE. REASONABLE REGULATORY SCHEME. 144 00:04:01,709 --> 00:04:03,375 REASONABLE REGULATORY SCHEME. BUT PROVIDING THE WORKFORCE THAT 145 00:04:03,377 --> 00:04:04,776 BUT PROVIDING THE WORKFORCE THAT WE NEED AND THE BUSINESS 146 00:04:04,778 --> 00:04:08,847 WE NEED AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS THE FIRST NOW TO 147 00:04:08,849 --> 00:04:09,548 COMMUNITY IS THE FIRST NOW TO STEP UP AND SAY WE NEED MORE 148 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:12,050 STEP UP AND SAY WE NEED MORE COLLEGE GRADUATES, WE NEED MORE 149 00:04:12,052 --> 00:04:13,485 COLLEGE GRADUATES, WE NEED MORE COMMUNITY COLLEGE GRADUATES WITH 150 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:14,319 COMMUNITY COLLEGE GRADUATES WITH SKILLS TO COMPETE. 151 00:04:14,321 --> 00:04:15,287 SKILLS TO COMPETE. AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS 152 00:04:15,289 --> 00:04:16,855 AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS NOW READY TO SAY THAT'S OUR 153 00:04:16,857 --> 00:04:17,923 NOW READY TO SAY THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN ARIZONA. 154 00:04:17,925 --> 00:04:19,024 NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN ARIZONA. I AGREE WITH THAT. 155 00:04:19,026 --> 00:04:22,995 I AGREE WITH THAT. >> MOVING ON TO HIGHER EDUCATION 156 00:04:22,997 --> 00:04:23,729 >> MOVING ON TO HIGHER EDUCATION DURING YOUR TIME WITH THE BOARD 157 00:04:23,731 --> 00:04:25,030 DURING YOUR TIME WITH THE BOARD OF REGENTS, A NEW AD SAYS IT'S 158 00:04:25,032 --> 00:04:26,932 OF REGENTS, A NEW AD SAYS IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU THAT WE HAD 159 00:04:26,934 --> 00:04:27,599 BECAUSE OF YOU THAT WE HAD HIGHER TUITION FOR COLLEGE 160 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:28,233 HIGHER TUITION FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS DURING THAT TIME. 161 00:04:28,235 --> 00:04:28,900 STUDENTS DURING THAT TIME. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? 162 00:04:28,902 --> 00:04:35,641 HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? >> WE TOOK $400 MILLION OF CUTS 163 00:04:35,643 --> 00:04:36,742 >> WE TOOK $400 MILLION OF CUTS IN ONE YEAR. 164 00:04:36,744 --> 00:04:37,709 IN ONE YEAR. IT WAS DEVASTATING. 165 00:04:37,711 --> 00:04:38,944 IT WAS DEVASTATING. PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID, LET'S 166 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:41,146 PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID, LET'S CLOSE CAMPUSES. 167 00:04:41,148 --> 00:04:45,384 CLOSE CAMPUSES. LET'S TELL STUDENTS THAT JUST A 168 00:04:45,386 --> 00:04:46,118 LET'S TELL STUDENTS THAT JUST A COUPLE OF COURSES SHORT OF THEIR 169 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,818 COUPLE OF COURSES SHORT OF THEIR DEGREE, SORRY WE'RE GOING TO 170 00:04:46,820 --> 00:04:47,552 DEGREE, SORRY WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE DOOR ON YOU. 171 00:04:47,554 --> 00:04:51,890 CLOSE THE DOOR ON YOU. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. 172 00:04:51,892 --> 00:04:52,591 WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. WE SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO 173 00:04:52,593 --> 00:04:52,891 WE SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. 174 00:04:52,893 --> 00:04:53,625 THAT. WE SAID WE'LL CUT DEEPLY AND WE 175 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:53,892 WE SAID WE'LL CUT DEEPLY AND WE DID. 176 00:04:53,894 --> 00:04:55,560 DID. WE CUT A DOLLAR OUT OF 177 00:04:55,562 --> 00:04:55,961 WE CUT A DOLLAR OUT OF OPERATIONS. 178 00:04:55,963 --> 00:04:56,662 OPERATIONS. YOU CAN TALK THE FOLKS AROUND 179 00:04:56,664 --> 00:04:57,362 YOU CAN TALK THE FOLKS AROUND THE U OF A AND OTHER CAMPUSES. 180 00:04:57,364 --> 00:04:57,963 THE U OF A AND OTHER CAMPUSES. DEVASTATING, DEEP CUTS. 181 00:04:57,965 --> 00:05:02,467 DEVASTATING, DEEP CUTS. BUT OUR BASIC PRINCIPAL IS WE'LL 182 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:03,769 BUT OUR BASIC PRINCIPAL IS WE'LL KEEP THE DOORS OPEN. 183 00:05:03,771 --> 00:05:05,070 KEEP THE DOORS OPEN. WE INCREASED FINANCIAL AID 184 00:05:05,072 --> 00:05:05,504 WE INCREASED FINANCIAL AID DRAMATICALLY. 185 00:05:05,506 --> 00:05:06,204 DRAMATICALLY. INCREASED MORE FINANCIAL AID 186 00:05:06,206 --> 00:05:06,938 INCREASED MORE FINANCIAL AID THAN WE DID TUITION TO MAKE SURE 187 00:05:06,940 --> 00:05:11,510 THAN WE DID TUITION TO MAKE SURE THAT -- AND IN FACT THE DATA 188 00:05:11,512 --> 00:05:13,378 THAT -- AND IN FACT THE DATA SHOWS MORE MIDDLE AND LOWER 189 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:14,780 SHOWS MORE MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASS KIDS THAT ARE GIFT AND 190 00:05:14,782 --> 00:05:16,114 CLASS KIDS THAT ARE GIFT AND SMART ARE IN OUR UNIVERSITIES 191 00:05:16,116 --> 00:05:17,149 SMART ARE IN OUR UNIVERSITIES TODAY THAN THEY WERE BEFORE. 192 00:05:17,151 --> 00:05:19,318 TODAY THAN THEY WERE BEFORE. SO WE SURVIVED THE CRISIS. 193 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,886 SO WE SURVIVED THE CRISIS. WE HAD TO MAKE HARD CHOICES BOTH 194 00:05:20,888 --> 00:05:23,655 WE HAD TO MAKE HARD CHOICES BOTH IN THE CUTS AND IN THE TUITION. 195 00:05:23,657 --> 00:05:25,924 IN THE CUTS AND IN THE TUITION. WE HAD TO KEEP ACCESS OPEN. 196 00:05:25,926 --> 00:05:27,392 WE HAD TO KEEP ACCESS OPEN. I REALIZED THE TUITION RAISES 197 00:05:27,394 --> 00:05:28,093 I REALIZED THE TUITION RAISES HAVE GOT TO STOP. 198 00:05:28,095 --> 00:05:30,929 HAVE GOT TO STOP. AND SO I DESIGNED A NEW SYSTEM 199 00:05:30,931 --> 00:05:34,132 AND SO I DESIGNED A NEW SYSTEM CALLED AZ TRANSFER.COM WHICH IS 200 00:05:34,134 --> 00:05:35,334 CALLED AZ TRANSFER.COM WHICH IS A NOW A NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE 201 00:05:35,336 --> 00:05:37,035 A NOW A NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE AND ALLOWS STUDENTS TO TAKE 202 00:05:37,037 --> 00:05:37,903 AND ALLOWS STUDENTS TO TAKE CLASSES FROM BOTH UNIVERSITIES 203 00:05:37,905 --> 00:05:39,137 CLASSES FROM BOTH UNIVERSITIES AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 204 00:05:39,139 --> 00:05:41,073 AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES. GET THEIR DEGREE AT ONE-THIRD 205 00:05:41,075 --> 00:05:42,040 GET THEIR DEGREE AT ONE-THIRD LOWER COST. 206 00:05:42,042 --> 00:05:44,109 LOWER COST. AND AS CHAIRMAN OF THE REGENTS I 207 00:05:44,111 --> 00:05:45,711 AND AS CHAIRMAN OF THE REGENTS I PRODUCED THE FIRST ZERO TUITION 208 00:05:45,713 --> 00:05:46,378 PRODUCED THE FIRST ZERO TUITION INCREASE IN MODERN ARIZONA 209 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:46,712 INCREASE IN MODERN ARIZONA HISTORY. 210 00:05:46,714 --> 00:05:47,412 HISTORY. SO WE MADE -- WE SURVIVED THE 211 00:05:47,414 --> 00:05:48,146 SO WE MADE -- WE SURVIVED THE CRISIS AND MADE LONG TERM CHANGE 212 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:53,452 CRISIS AND MADE LONG TERM CHANGE TO ASSURE MORE PATHWAYS OF 213 00:05:53,454 --> 00:05:56,421 TO ASSURE MORE PATHWAYS OF ACCESS AT LOWER COST FOR MORE 214 00:05:56,423 --> 00:05:56,788 ACCESS AT LOWER COST FOR MORE STUDENTS. 215 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:58,857 STUDENTS. >> DuVAL SERVED ON THE ARIZONA 216 00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:02,694 >> DuVAL SERVED ON THE ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS FROM 2006 TO 217 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:02,994 BOARD OF REGENTS FROM 2006 TO 2012. 218 00:06:02,996 --> 00:06:05,263 2012. AND DURING THAT TIME, TUITION AT 219 00:06:05,265 --> 00:06:05,997 AND DURING THAT TIME, TUITION AT ARIZONA UNIVERSITIES 220 00:06:05,999 --> 00:06:07,165 ARIZONA UNIVERSITIES APPROXIMATELY DOUBLED. 221 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:08,767 APPROXIMATELY DOUBLED. THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS 222 00:06:08,769 --> 00:06:10,435 THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION TOOK OUT AN AD 223 00:06:10,437 --> 00:06:11,837 ASSOCIATION TOOK OUT AN AD ATTACKING DuVAL FOR THOSE VOTES. 224 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,706 ATTACKING DuVAL FOR THOSE VOTES. HE POINTS OUT THE STATE REDUCED 225 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:15,540 HE POINTS OUT THE STATE REDUCED FUNDING TO ARIZONA UNIVERSITY 226 00:06:15,542 --> 00:06:17,342 FUNDING TO ARIZONA UNIVERSITY DURING THAT TIME PERIOD AS WELL. 227 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:18,076 DURING THAT TIME PERIOD AS WELL. HERE'S MORE OF MY INTERVIEW WITH 228 00:06:18,078 --> 00:06:18,777 HERE'S MORE OF MY INTERVIEW WITH THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, FRED 229 00:06:18,779 --> 00:06:22,781 THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, FRED DuVAL. 230 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:24,716 DuVAL. LET'S MOVE ON TO ARIZONA'S 231 00:06:24,718 --> 00:06:25,050 LET'S MOVE ON TO ARIZONA'S ECONOMY. 232 00:06:25,052 --> 00:06:25,751 ECONOMY. IT'S STRUGGLING, $800 MILLION 233 00:06:25,753 --> 00:06:26,251 IT'S STRUGGLING, $800 MILLION DEFICIT PROJECTED. 234 00:06:26,253 --> 00:06:31,323 DEFICIT PROJECTED. IT COULD GROW. 235 00:06:31,325 --> 00:06:33,692 IT COULD GROW. BEFORE YOU OR MR. DUCEY TAKES 236 00:06:33,694 --> 00:06:34,025 BEFORE YOU OR MR. DUCEY TAKES OFFICE. 237 00:06:34,027 --> 00:06:34,760 OFFICE. HOW DO YOU PLAN TO SHRINK THAT 238 00:06:34,762 --> 00:06:35,093 HOW DO YOU PLAN TO SHRINK THAT NUMBER? 239 00:06:35,095 --> 00:06:35,494 NUMBER? IT IS HUGE. 240 00:06:35,496 --> 00:06:35,927 IT IS HUGE. >> IT IS HUGE. 241 00:06:35,929 --> 00:06:39,398 >> IT IS HUGE. AND OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY IS NOT 242 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,400 AND OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY IS NOT AT ALL WHAT WE'RE USED TO. 243 00:06:41,402 --> 00:06:43,201 AT ALL WHAT WE'RE USED TO. LET ME GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS 244 00:06:43,203 --> 00:06:43,869 LET ME GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS ABOUT THAT. 245 00:06:43,871 --> 00:06:45,604 ABOUT THAT. WE ARE ONE OF ONLY A HANDFUL OF 246 00:06:45,606 --> 00:06:48,473 WE ARE ONE OF ONLY A HANDFUL OF STATES THAT HASN'T REGAINED THE 247 00:06:48,475 --> 00:06:49,141 STATES THAT HASN'T REGAINED THE FULL ECONOMIC STRENGTH FROM 248 00:06:49,143 --> 00:06:50,208 FULL ECONOMIC STRENGTH FROM BEFORE THE RECESSION. 249 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:51,576 BEFORE THE RECESSION. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE HAVE LOST 250 00:06:51,578 --> 00:06:52,277 WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE HAVE LOST MIDDLE CLASS WORKING FAMILY 251 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,577 MIDDLE CLASS WORKING FAMILY JOBS. 252 00:06:52,579 --> 00:06:53,311 JOBS. WE HAVE INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE 253 00:06:53,313 --> 00:06:53,612 WE HAVE INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE JOBS. 254 00:06:53,614 --> 00:06:54,346 JOBS. MANY OF THE FOLKS MOVED FROM ONE 255 00:06:54,348 --> 00:06:57,015 MANY OF THE FOLKS MOVED FROM ONE TO TAKING TWO OF THE OTHER. 256 00:06:57,017 --> 00:06:57,716 TO TAKING TWO OF THE OTHER. AND SO THE ECONOMIC GROWTH IS 257 00:06:57,718 --> 00:06:58,183 AND SO THE ECONOMIC GROWTH IS REALLY STAGNANT. 258 00:06:58,185 --> 00:07:04,122 REALLY STAGNANT. AND THIS IS A LONG TERM 259 00:07:04,124 --> 00:07:04,823 AND THIS IS A LONG TERM CONTAMINANT ON OUR ABILITY TO 260 00:07:04,825 --> 00:07:05,323 CONTAMINANT ON OUR ABILITY TO GROW THE ECONOMY. 261 00:07:05,325 --> 00:07:05,991 GROW THE ECONOMY. WE NEED A NUMBER OF THINGS. 262 00:07:05,993 --> 00:07:10,328 WE NEED A NUMBER OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IN THE UNIVERSITY 263 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:11,830 NUMBER ONE, IN THE UNIVERSITY SPACE AND IN THE RESEARCH AND 264 00:07:11,832 --> 00:07:13,498 SPACE AND IN THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT SPACE, WE NEED MORE 265 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:14,299 DEVELOPMENT SPACE, WE NEED MORE INNOVATION, DISCOVERRY. 266 00:07:14,301 --> 00:07:16,601 INNOVATION, DISCOVERRY. WE NEED MORE ACTIVITY IN THE NEW 267 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:17,302 WE NEED MORE ACTIVITY IN THE NEW PRODUCTS AND IDEAS THAT WILL 268 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:18,036 PRODUCTS AND IDEAS THAT WILL DRIVE 21st CENTURY EXPORTS AND 269 00:07:18,038 --> 00:07:24,276 DRIVE 21st CENTURY EXPORTS AND CONSUMER PURCHASES. 270 00:07:24,278 --> 00:07:25,677 CONSUMER PURCHASES. THAT'S INCOME TO THE STATE OF 271 00:07:25,679 --> 00:07:26,011 THAT'S INCOME TO THE STATE OF ARIZONA. 272 00:07:26,013 --> 00:07:27,345 ARIZONA. SECOND, WE'RE A SMALL BUSINESS 273 00:07:27,347 --> 00:07:27,646 SECOND, WE'RE A SMALL BUSINESS STATE. 274 00:07:27,648 --> 00:07:29,448 STATE. WE NEED TO NURSE SMALL 275 00:07:29,450 --> 00:07:31,116 WE NEED TO NURSE SMALL BUSINESSES TO HEALTH FROM THE 276 00:07:31,118 --> 00:07:35,253 BUSINESSES TO HEALTH FROM THE DINING ROOM TABLE TO THE FIRST 277 00:07:35,255 --> 00:07:35,720 DINING ROOM TABLE TO THE FIRST LEASABLE SPACE. 278 00:07:35,722 --> 00:07:36,321 LEASABLE SPACE. WE LOSE TOO MANY SMALL 279 00:07:36,323 --> 00:07:37,989 WE LOSE TOO MANY SMALL BUSINESSES AT LAUNCH. 280 00:07:37,991 --> 00:07:42,127 BUSINESSES AT LAUNCH. WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ANY THAT -- A 281 00:07:42,129 --> 00:07:43,328 WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ANY THAT -- A NEW ECONOMY THAT MAKES SURE THEY 282 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:45,530 NEW ECONOMY THAT MAKES SURE THEY CAN GET STARTED AND HAVE A 283 00:07:45,532 --> 00:07:49,968 CAN GET STARTED AND HAVE A STABLE GLIDE PATH TO BECOME 284 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:50,669 STABLE GLIDE PATH TO BECOME EMPLOYERS AND THEN WE'LL GROW 285 00:07:50,671 --> 00:07:51,102 EMPLOYERS AND THEN WE'LL GROW OUR ECONOMY. 286 00:07:51,104 --> 00:07:51,736 OUR ECONOMY. >> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK 287 00:07:51,738 --> 00:07:52,471 >> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK EDUCATION AND THE ECONOMY BOUNCE 288 00:07:52,473 --> 00:07:52,938 EDUCATION AND THE ECONOMY BOUNCE OFF EACH OTHER? 289 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:53,638 OFF EACH OTHER? >> I THINK THEY'RE COMPLETELY 290 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,039 >> I THINK THEY'RE COMPLETELY INTERLINKED. 291 00:07:54,041 --> 00:07:54,773 INTERLINKED. I THINK IT'S THE MISSING LINK IN 292 00:07:54,775 --> 00:07:55,207 I THINK IT'S THE MISSING LINK IN OUR STRATEGY. 293 00:07:55,209 --> 00:07:58,877 OUR STRATEGY. WE HAVE -- WE HAVE BEEN VERY 294 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:02,747 WE HAVE -- WE HAVE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE ON THE TAX REDUCTION 295 00:08:02,749 --> 00:08:03,048 AGGRESSIVE ON THE TAX REDUCTION SIDE. 296 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:03,782 SIDE. WE HAVE LOWERED TAXES IN 23 OF 297 00:08:03,784 --> 00:08:04,516 WE HAVE LOWERED TAXES IN 23 OF THE LAST 24 YEARS AS A STRATEGY 298 00:08:04,518 --> 00:08:06,318 THE LAST 24 YEARS AS A STRATEGY TO GROW THE ECONOMY AND OUR 299 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,819 TO GROW THE ECONOMY AND OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS NOW STILL 300 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:08,820 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS NOW STILL ALMOST A POINT ABOVE THE 301 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:09,454 ALMOST A POINT ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. 302 00:08:09,456 --> 00:08:11,857 NATIONAL AVERAGE. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT 303 00:08:11,859 --> 00:08:12,491 THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT COMPETITIVE TAXES AREN'T 304 00:08:12,493 --> 00:08:12,858 COMPETITIVE TAXES AREN'T IMPORTANT. 305 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:13,458 IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING. 306 00:08:13,460 --> 00:08:17,128 IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD 307 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:18,864 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION PLATFORM, PRODUCING 308 00:08:18,866 --> 00:08:23,368 EDUCATION PLATFORM, PRODUCING GOOD, SMART GRADUATES THAT ARE 309 00:08:23,370 --> 00:08:24,102 GOOD, SMART GRADUATES THAT ARE MOTIVATED AND READY TO PERFORM 310 00:08:24,104 --> 00:08:24,603 MOTIVATED AND READY TO PERFORM IN THE WORKPLACE. 311 00:08:24,605 --> 00:08:25,337 IN THE WORKPLACE. >> THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WATCHING 312 00:08:25,339 --> 00:08:26,071 >> THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS INTERVIEW WHO SAY I LIVE IN 313 00:08:26,073 --> 00:08:28,940 THIS INTERVIEW WHO SAY I LIVE IN A RURAL ECONOMY. 314 00:08:28,942 --> 00:08:30,408 A RURAL ECONOMY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR ME? 315 00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:32,110 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR ME? >> WE NEED A STATEWIDE STRATEGY. 316 00:08:32,112 --> 00:08:34,179 >> WE NEED A STATEWIDE STRATEGY. IT'S TOO URBAN CENTRIC TO BE 317 00:08:34,181 --> 00:08:34,880 IT'S TOO URBAN CENTRIC TO BE SURE. 318 00:08:34,882 --> 00:08:39,317 SURE. EACH COMMUNITY HAS ITS OWN 319 00:08:39,319 --> 00:08:40,519 EACH COMMUNITY HAS ITS OWN PARTICULAR ECONOMIC DESIGN, ITS 320 00:08:40,521 --> 00:08:41,953 PARTICULAR ECONOMIC DESIGN, ITS OWN CULTURAL DNA. 321 00:08:41,955 --> 00:08:44,055 OWN CULTURAL DNA. WE HAVE TO BE IN ALIGNMENT SO 322 00:08:44,057 --> 00:08:44,756 WE HAVE TO BE IN ALIGNMENT SO THAT THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY IN 323 00:08:44,758 --> 00:08:50,362 THAT THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY IN NORTHERN ARIZONA AND THE 324 00:08:50,364 --> 00:08:52,197 NORTHERN ARIZONA AND THE RANCHING INDUSTRY IN COCHISE 325 00:08:52,199 --> 00:08:52,931 RANCHING INDUSTRY IN COCHISE COUNTY IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. 326 00:08:52,933 --> 00:08:57,602 COUNTY IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. EACH HAS ITS OWN SPECIAL NEEDS 327 00:08:57,604 --> 00:08:59,304 EACH HAS ITS OWN SPECIAL NEEDS AND OUR STATE HAS TO HAVE A 328 00:08:59,306 --> 00:09:01,573 AND OUR STATE HAS TO HAVE A FULLY NUANCED AND FULLY THOUGHT 329 00:09:01,575 --> 00:09:03,041 FULLY NUANCED AND FULLY THOUGHT THROUGH STRATEGY AS TO HOW IT IS 330 00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:03,742 THROUGH STRATEGY AS TO HOW IT IS THAT WE GIVE THE COMMUNITIES, 331 00:09:03,744 --> 00:09:04,476 THAT WE GIVE THE COMMUNITIES, THE TOOLS, STATEWIDE IN TERMS OF 332 00:09:04,478 --> 00:09:09,581 THE TOOLS, STATEWIDE IN TERMS OF POLICY AND MICROSTRATEGIES THAT 333 00:09:09,583 --> 00:09:12,117 POLICY AND MICROSTRATEGIES THAT ARE TARGETED TO MAKE SURE EACH 334 00:09:12,119 --> 00:09:13,552 ARE TARGETED TO MAKE SURE EACH ECONOMY HAS A CHANCE TO GROW. 335 00:09:13,554 --> 00:09:14,986 ECONOMY HAS A CHANCE TO GROW. >> ALL TOO OFTEN WE HEAR THAT 336 00:09:14,988 --> 00:09:16,488 >> ALL TOO OFTEN WE HEAR THAT ARIZONA NEEDS TO BE SECURED. 337 00:09:16,490 --> 00:09:17,689 ARIZONA NEEDS TO BE SECURED. WHAT IS ARIZONA'S ROLE IN 338 00:09:17,691 --> 00:09:18,323 WHAT IS ARIZONA'S ROLE IN SECURING THE BORDER? 339 00:09:18,325 --> 00:09:19,524 SECURING THE BORDER? >> I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. 340 00:09:19,526 --> 00:09:23,662 >> I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. IT IS A -- IT'S OBVIOUSLY 341 00:09:23,664 --> 00:09:24,329 IT IS A -- IT'S OBVIOUSLY COMPLEX BECAUSE THERE'S AN 342 00:09:24,331 --> 00:09:25,030 COMPLEX BECAUSE THERE'S AN IMPORTANT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 343 00:09:25,032 --> 00:09:25,330 IMPORTANT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ROLE. 344 00:09:25,332 --> 00:09:28,800 ROLE. I JOINED REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP 345 00:09:28,802 --> 00:09:29,801 I JOINED REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP JOHN McCAIN AND SENATOR FLAKE 346 00:09:29,803 --> 00:09:31,102 JOHN McCAIN AND SENATOR FLAKE AND OTHERS THAT GET AFTER A 347 00:09:31,104 --> 00:09:31,937 AND OTHERS THAT GET AFTER A BIPARTISAN STRATEGY AT THE 348 00:09:31,939 --> 00:09:33,104 BIPARTISAN STRATEGY AT THE FEDERAL ROLE WHICH IS INCREASING 349 00:09:33,106 --> 00:09:35,040 FEDERAL ROLE WHICH IS INCREASING THE BORDER PATROL, INCREASING 350 00:09:35,042 --> 00:09:39,544 THE BORDER PATROL, INCREASING THE CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT. 351 00:09:39,546 --> 00:09:40,278 THE CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT. INCREASING FEDERAL SURVEILLANCE 352 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:40,979 INCREASING FEDERAL SURVEILLANCE ON THE BORDER SO THAT WE CAN 353 00:09:40,981 --> 00:09:41,613 ON THE BORDER SO THAT WE CAN CREATE SECURITY ALONG THE 354 00:09:41,615 --> 00:09:41,947 CREATE SECURITY ALONG THE BORDER. 355 00:09:41,949 --> 00:09:48,320 BORDER. THE STATE HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE 356 00:09:48,322 --> 00:09:49,054 THE STATE HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE ROLE, PARTICULARLY DEALING WITH 357 00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:49,721 ROLE, PARTICULARLY DEALING WITH THE CARTELS, THE BAD ACTORS. 358 00:09:49,723 --> 00:09:50,422 THE CARTELS, THE BAD ACTORS. WE HAVE TOOLS IN THE BANKING 359 00:09:50,424 --> 00:09:51,156 WE HAVE TOOLS IN THE BANKING DEPARTMENT, IN THE STATUTES TO 360 00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:52,991 DEPARTMENT, IN THE STATUTES TO TRY AND REALLY BREAK THE 361 00:09:52,993 --> 00:09:54,326 TRY AND REALLY BREAK THE FINANCING OF THE CARTELS AND WE 362 00:09:54,328 --> 00:09:55,594 FINANCING OF THE CARTELS AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT. 363 00:09:55,596 --> 00:09:56,895 HAVE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE AN EMPLOYER SANCTION LAW 364 00:09:56,897 --> 00:09:57,963 WE HAVE AN EMPLOYER SANCTION LAW IN ARIZONA THAT I THINK NEEDS TO 365 00:09:57,965 --> 00:09:58,697 IN ARIZONA THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED AS PART OF THE WAY 366 00:09:58,699 --> 00:09:59,397 BE ENFORCED AS PART OF THE WAY OF DISCOURAGING THE MIGRATION. 367 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:05,503 OF DISCOURAGING THE MIGRATION. THERE ARE SOME STATES -- WE HAVE 368 00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:07,839 THERE ARE SOME STATES -- WE HAVE TO ADEQUATELY FUND OUR STATE 369 00:10:07,841 --> 00:10:08,173 TO ADEQUATELY FUND OUR STATE POLICE. 370 00:10:08,175 --> 00:10:12,844 POLICE. OUR STATE POLICE WORKS FOR THE 371 00:10:12,846 --> 00:10:13,578 OUR STATE POLICE WORKS FOR THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ALONG THE 372 00:10:13,580 --> 00:10:14,312 LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ALONG THE BORDER COMMUNITIES AND WE NEED 373 00:10:14,314 --> 00:10:16,948 BORDER COMMUNITIES AND WE NEED TO FULLY RESOURCE THE POLICE TO 374 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:17,515 TO FULLY RESOURCE THE POLICE TO DO THEIR JOB AS WELL. 375 00:10:17,517 --> 00:10:18,583 DO THEIR JOB AS WELL. >> FUNDING AND RESOURCE ALL 376 00:10:18,585 --> 00:10:20,685 >> FUNDING AND RESOURCE ALL SOUNDS VERY EXPENSIVE. 377 00:10:20,687 --> 00:10:22,887 SOUNDS VERY EXPENSIVE. HOW DO YOU SELL THE LEGISLATURE 378 00:10:22,889 --> 00:10:23,221 HOW DO YOU SELL THE LEGISLATURE ON THAT? 379 00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:23,955 ON THAT? >> THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO GROW, 380 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:27,425 >> THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO GROW, AND THE BIG DEBATE DO WE DO WE 381 00:10:27,427 --> 00:10:29,227 AND THE BIG DEBATE DO WE DO WE INCOME TAX REPEAL OR CORPORATE 382 00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:31,262 INCOME TAX REPEAL OR CORPORATE INCOME TAX REPEAL WHICH IS 40% 383 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:32,197 INCOME TAX REPEAL WHICH IS 40% OF THE STATE BUDGET. 384 00:10:32,199 --> 00:10:33,632 OF THE STATE BUDGET. DOUG'S PROPOSAL TO ABOLISH THE 385 00:10:33,634 --> 00:10:35,133 DOUG'S PROPOSAL TO ABOLISH THE INCOME TAX, IT'S VERY 386 00:10:35,135 --> 00:10:35,533 INCOME TAX, IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE. 387 00:10:35,535 --> 00:10:37,869 ATTRACTIVE. I'D LOVE TO PANDER AND SAY NO 388 00:10:37,871 --> 00:10:38,870 I'D LOVE TO PANDER AND SAY NO MORE TAXES FOR ANYONE. 389 00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:41,573 MORE TAXES FOR ANYONE. IT IS MORE THAN ALL THE MONEY WE 390 00:10:41,575 --> 00:10:42,173 IT IS MORE THAN ALL THE MONEY WE CURRENTLY SPEND ON K-12 391 00:10:42,175 --> 00:10:42,540 CURRENTLY SPEND ON K-12 EDUCATION. 392 00:10:42,542 --> 00:10:43,274 EDUCATION. MEANWHILE THE COURT HAS SAID IN 393 00:10:43,276 --> 00:10:47,979 MEANWHILE THE COURT HAS SAID IN THE NEW DECISION, THE VOTERS 394 00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:51,049 THE NEW DECISION, THE VOTERS ARE -- HAVE INSISTED THAT THE 395 00:10:51,051 --> 00:10:51,883 ARE -- HAVE INSISTED THAT THE LEGISLATURE FUND EDUCATION, 396 00:10:51,885 --> 00:10:53,018 LEGISLATURE FUND EDUCATION, GROWING WITH THE RATE OF 397 00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:53,385 GROWING WITH THE RATE OF INFLATION. 398 00:10:53,387 --> 00:10:54,719 INFLATION. THE LEGISLATURE HASN'T DONE IT. 399 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:55,987 THE LEGISLATURE HASN'T DONE IT. NOW THE ISSUE IS ARE WE GOING TO 400 00:10:55,989 --> 00:10:57,856 NOW THE ISSUE IS ARE WE GOING TO KEEP APPEALING THIS DECISION 401 00:10:57,858 --> 00:10:59,124 KEEP APPEALING THIS DECISION WHICH DOUG WANTS TO DO OR ARE WE 402 00:10:59,126 --> 00:10:59,858 WHICH DOUG WANTS TO DO OR ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS DECISION 403 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:00,592 GOING TO ENFORCE THIS DECISION AND GET ON WITH INVESTING IN OUR 404 00:11:00,594 --> 00:11:01,026 AND GET ON WITH INVESTING IN OUR KIDS' SCHOOLS? 405 00:11:01,028 --> 00:11:02,327 KIDS' SCHOOLS? THAT'S THE PATH I TAKE. 406 00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:07,599 THAT'S THE PATH I TAKE. AND I JOIN WITH PARENTS AND 407 00:11:07,601 --> 00:11:08,333 AND I JOIN WITH PARENTS AND TEACHERS ALL OVER THE STATE IN 408 00:11:08,335 --> 00:11:09,000 TEACHERS ALL OVER THE STATE IN SAYING, DOUG, REVERSE YOUR 409 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:09,467 SAYING, DOUG, REVERSE YOUR OPINION ON THIS. 410 00:11:09,469 --> 00:11:12,937 OPINION ON THIS. LET'S STOP APPEALING AND START 411 00:11:12,939 --> 00:11:15,874 LET'S STOP APPEALING AND START FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS AGAIN. 412 00:11:15,876 --> 00:11:21,913 FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS AGAIN. >> LET'S GO BACK TO THE BORDER, 413 00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:25,884 >> LET'S GO BACK TO THE BORDER, YOU HAVE BEEN IN COCHISE AREA. 414 00:11:25,886 --> 00:11:26,551 YOU HAVE BEEN IN COCHISE AREA. DO YOU THINK THE BORDER IS 415 00:11:26,553 --> 00:11:26,885 DO YOU THINK THE BORDER IS SECURE? 416 00:11:26,887 --> 00:11:27,619 SECURE? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S PERFECTLY 417 00:11:27,621 --> 00:11:28,753 >> I DON'T THINK IT'S PERFECTLY SECURE, AND WE HAVE TO DO MORE 418 00:11:28,755 --> 00:11:29,354 SECURE, AND WE HAVE TO DO MORE TO ENSURE IT IS SECURE. 419 00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:30,088 TO ENSURE IT IS SECURE. AS WELL AS MAKE SURE THERE ARE 420 00:11:30,090 --> 00:11:34,159 AS WELL AS MAKE SURE THERE ARE CRITICAL TRADING RELATIONSHIP 421 00:11:34,161 --> 00:11:37,295 CRITICAL TRADING RELATIONSHIP WITH MEXICO -- YOU KNOW, TEXAS'S 422 00:11:37,297 --> 00:11:38,663 WITH MEXICO -- YOU KNOW, TEXAS'S TRADE RATE WITH MEXICO IS 423 00:11:38,665 --> 00:11:39,531 TRADE RATE WITH MEXICO IS SIGNIFICANTLY OUTPACING US. 424 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:40,231 SIGNIFICANTLY OUTPACING US. THE NEW DEEP WATER PORT IS A 425 00:11:40,233 --> 00:11:40,632 THE NEW DEEP WATER PORT IS A HUGE ASSET. 426 00:11:40,634 --> 00:11:41,366 HUGE ASSET. MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE 427 00:11:41,368 --> 00:11:42,000 MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS. 428 00:11:42,002 --> 00:11:47,939 TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS. THE PORT OF ENTRY IS A 429 00:11:47,941 --> 00:11:48,373 THE PORT OF ENTRY IS A BOTTLENECK. 430 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:50,809 BOTTLENECK. WE'VE GOT TO GET AFTER THE 431 00:11:50,811 --> 00:11:51,509 WE'VE GOT TO GET AFTER THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN 432 00:11:51,511 --> 00:11:52,243 INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN FULLY EMBRACE THE GROWING MIDDLE 433 00:11:52,245 --> 00:11:52,911 FULLY EMBRACE THE GROWING MIDDLE CLASS IN MEXICO, THAT IS A 434 00:11:52,913 --> 00:11:55,980 CLASS IN MEXICO, THAT IS A MARKET FOR US. 435 00:11:55,982 --> 00:11:57,282 MARKET FOR US. SO GETTING BORDER SECURITY RIGHT 436 00:11:57,284 --> 00:11:58,783 SO GETTING BORDER SECURITY RIGHT AND GETTING THE TRADE 437 00:11:58,785 --> 00:12:01,586 AND GETTING THE TRADE RELATIONSHIP RIGHT IS A CRITICAL 438 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:02,120 RELATIONSHIP RIGHT IS A CRITICAL TWO-PART STRATEGY. 439 00:12:02,122 --> 00:12:03,488 TWO-PART STRATEGY. >> FRED DuVAL SERVED ON THE 440 00:12:03,490 --> 00:12:06,257 >> FRED DuVAL SERVED ON THE ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS, THE 441 00:12:06,259 --> 00:12:06,958 ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE 442 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,761 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND IN THE '90s WORKED IN THE 443 00:12:09,763 --> 00:12:11,129 AND IN THE '90s WORKED IN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. 444 00:12:11,131 --> 00:12:13,331 CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. HE'S A HUSBAND, A FATHER, AND 445 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:14,699 HE'S A HUSBAND, A FATHER, AND THE 59-YEAR-OLD SAYS HIS 446 00:12:14,701 --> 00:12:15,433 THE 59-YEAR-OLD SAYS HIS EXPERIENCE MAKES HIM QUALIFIED 447 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:19,270 EXPERIENCE MAKES HIM QUALIFIED TO BE ARIZONA'S NEXT GOVERNOR. 448 00:12:19,272 --> 00:12:19,971 TO BE ARIZONA'S NEXT GOVERNOR. YOU'VE BEEN A BIT OF A BEHIND 449 00:12:19,973 --> 00:12:20,705 YOU'VE BEEN A BIT OF A BEHIND THE SCENES GUY WHEN IT COMES TO 450 00:12:20,707 --> 00:12:24,209 THE SCENES GUY WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS. 451 00:12:24,211 --> 00:12:25,543 POLITICS. NOW YOU'RE REALLY PUTTING 452 00:12:25,545 --> 00:12:26,144 NOW YOU'RE REALLY PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE. 453 00:12:26,146 --> 00:12:26,778 YOURSELF OUT THERE. YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 454 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:27,378 YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN POLITICS SINCE YOUR 20s. 455 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:27,712 POLITICS SINCE YOUR 20s. WHY NOW? 456 00:12:27,714 --> 00:12:32,484 WHY NOW? >> IT'S -- A CRITICAL MOMENT IN 457 00:12:32,486 --> 00:12:34,252 >> IT'S -- A CRITICAL MOMENT IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND I LOVE 458 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:34,753 THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND I LOVE THIS STATE. 459 00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:36,121 THIS STATE. I BELIEVE THIS IS A PIONEERING 460 00:12:36,123 --> 00:12:36,421 I BELIEVE THIS IS A PIONEERING STATE. 461 00:12:36,423 --> 00:12:40,625 STATE. WHEN I GREW UP HERE IN TUCSON, 462 00:12:40,627 --> 00:12:41,359 WHEN I GREW UP HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA WAS A PLACE EVERYONE IN 463 00:12:41,361 --> 00:12:42,026 ARIZONA WAS A PLACE EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY WANTED TO COME 464 00:12:42,028 --> 00:12:43,161 THE COUNTRY WANTED TO COME BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE. 465 00:12:43,163 --> 00:12:44,929 BECAUSE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE. WE WERE INVENTING THINGS HERE. 466 00:12:44,931 --> 00:12:45,597 WE WERE INVENTING THINGS HERE. WHEN I WORKED WITH GOVERNOR 467 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:46,264 WHEN I WORKED WITH GOVERNOR BABBITT WITH THE REPUBLICAN 468 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:46,898 BABBITT WITH THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE, WE HAD A BIG 469 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:51,069 LEGISLATURE, WE HAD A BIG STRATEGIC GOAL. 470 00:12:51,071 --> 00:12:52,904 STRATEGIC GOAL. ACCESS TOOK TWO YEARS. 471 00:12:52,906 --> 00:12:54,606 ACCESS TOOK TWO YEARS. THE PHOENIX FREEWAY SYSTEM, ONE 472 00:12:54,608 --> 00:12:58,076 THE PHOENIX FREEWAY SYSTEM, ONE YEAR. 473 00:12:58,078 --> 00:12:58,777 YEAR. A BIG GOAL THAT WE WENT AFTER 474 00:12:58,779 --> 00:12:59,144 A BIG GOAL THAT WE WENT AFTER EACH YEAR. 475 00:12:59,146 --> 00:13:05,016 EACH YEAR. WE PUT THE PARTISAN POLITICS 476 00:13:05,018 --> 00:13:09,187 WE PUT THE PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE AND LET'S STOP FIGHTING 477 00:13:09,189 --> 00:13:09,687 ASIDE AND LET'S STOP FIGHTING AND START FIXING. 478 00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:10,388 AND START FIXING. IT IS NOT GROWING THE KIND OF 479 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:11,623 IT IS NOT GROWING THE KIND OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WANT AND OUR 480 00:13:11,625 --> 00:13:12,991 OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WANT AND OUR KIDS SOME ARE GETTING A GREAT 481 00:13:12,993 --> 00:13:14,592 KIDS SOME ARE GETTING A GREAT EDUCATION, SOME ARE NOT. 482 00:13:14,594 --> 00:13:16,828 EDUCATION, SOME ARE NOT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE LIFT 483 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:18,797 WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE LIFT EVERY CHILD TO THEIR FULL 484 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:19,197 EVERY CHILD TO THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. 485 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:20,465 POTENTIAL. >> YOUR COMPETITOR, DOUG DUCEY 486 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:21,566 >> YOUR COMPETITOR, DOUG DUCEY HAS TED CRUZ AND SARAH PALIN. 487 00:13:21,568 --> 00:13:23,067 HAS TED CRUZ AND SARAH PALIN. BUT YOU HAVE YOURS AS WELL. 488 00:13:23,069 --> 00:13:27,605 BUT YOU HAVE YOURS AS WELL. TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE 489 00:13:27,607 --> 00:13:28,239 TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE SUPPORT YOU'RE RECEIVING. 490 00:13:28,241 --> 00:13:31,709 SUPPORT YOU'RE RECEIVING. >> WELL, I HAVE A LOT OF 491 00:13:31,711 --> 00:13:32,443 >> WELL, I HAVE A LOT OF BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND MY FIRST 492 00:13:32,445 --> 00:13:32,944 BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND MY FIRST AD IS GRANT WOODS. 493 00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:36,981 AD IS GRANT WOODS. FORMER REPUBLICAN ATTORNEY 494 00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:38,183 FORMER REPUBLICAN ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HE'S KNOWN ME MOST 495 00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:38,583 GENERAL AND HE'S KNOWN ME MOST OF MY LIFE. 496 00:13:38,585 --> 00:13:39,250 OF MY LIFE. HIS POINT IS, THIS GUY FRED 497 00:13:39,252 --> 00:13:43,555 HIS POINT IS, THIS GUY FRED DuVAL REALLY COLLABORATES WELL 498 00:13:43,557 --> 00:13:45,590 DuVAL REALLY COLLABORATES WELL ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS AROUND 499 00:13:45,592 --> 00:13:47,258 ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS AROUND BIG, STRATEGIC GOALS. 500 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:51,663 BIG, STRATEGIC GOALS. I HAVE WATCHED HIM MY WHOLE 501 00:13:51,665 --> 00:13:51,963 I HAVE WATCHED HIM MY WHOLE LIFE. 502 00:13:51,965 --> 00:13:52,697 LIFE. AFTER THE PARTISAN FIGHTING THAT 503 00:13:52,699 --> 00:13:58,136 AFTER THE PARTISAN FIGHTING THAT HAD GOTTEN INTO A LOT OF THIS 504 00:13:58,138 --> 00:13:58,736 HAD GOTTEN INTO A LOT OF THIS MESS IT'S TIME FOR THIS 505 00:13:58,738 --> 00:13:59,137 MESS IT'S TIME FOR THIS LEADERSHIP. 506 00:13:59,139 --> 00:14:01,406 LEADERSHIP. JAN BREWER'S BEST PART IS WHEN 507 00:14:01,408 --> 00:14:02,907 JAN BREWER'S BEST PART IS WHEN SHE LED THE BIPARTISAN EFFORTS 508 00:14:02,909 --> 00:14:05,343 SHE LED THE BIPARTISAN EFFORTS AROUND MEDICAID EXPANSION AND 509 00:14:05,345 --> 00:14:06,010 AROUND MEDICAID EXPANSION AND EXPECTATIONS IN EDUCATION, 510 00:14:06,012 --> 00:14:06,411 EXPECTATIONS IN EDUCATION, COMMON CORE. 511 00:14:06,413 --> 00:14:07,145 COMMON CORE. THAT'S THE KIND OF TRADITION I 512 00:14:07,147 --> 00:14:07,512 THAT'S THE KIND OF TRADITION I COME FROM. 513 00:14:07,514 --> 00:14:08,146 COME FROM. AND SARAH PALIN, TED CRUZ 514 00:14:08,148 --> 00:14:11,850 AND SARAH PALIN, TED CRUZ PARTISAN POLITICS, I DON'T 515 00:14:11,852 --> 00:14:12,550 PARTISAN POLITICS, I DON'T EMBRACE IT IN THE DEMOCRATIC 516 00:14:12,552 --> 00:14:18,089 EMBRACE IT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. 517 00:14:18,091 --> 00:14:20,758 PARTY. DOUG DOES EMBRACE IT, AND THAT'S 518 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:21,993 DOUG DOES EMBRACE IT, AND THAT'S POLITICS THAT ALIENATES PEOPLE 519 00:14:21,995 --> 00:14:23,428 POLITICS THAT ALIENATES PEOPLE AND WHY THERE ARE SO MANY 520 00:14:23,430 --> 00:14:23,862 AND WHY THERE ARE SO MANY INDEPENDENTS. 521 00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:24,696 INDEPENDENTS. THEY'RE REGISTERED. 522 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:25,830 THEY'RE REGISTERED. THEY CARE ABOUT THE STATE. 523 00:14:25,832 --> 00:14:26,531 THEY CARE ABOUT THE STATE. THEY CARE ABOUT THESE ISSUES. 524 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:27,232 THEY CARE ABOUT THESE ISSUES. THEY'RE SICK OF THE PARTISAN 525 00:14:27,234 --> 00:14:31,169 THEY'RE SICK OF THE PARTISAN POLITICS WHICH IS NOT ADDRESSING 526 00:14:31,171 --> 00:14:32,036 POLITICS WHICH IS NOT ADDRESSING OUR NEEDS. 527 00:14:32,038 --> 00:14:33,304 OUR NEEDS. >> ON THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE, 528 00:14:33,306 --> 00:14:34,305 >> ON THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE, IT APPEARS THAT ARIZONA IS A BIT 529 00:14:34,307 --> 00:14:34,973 IT APPEARS THAT ARIZONA IS A BIT OF A REPUBLICAN STRONG HOLD. 530 00:14:34,975 --> 00:14:35,707 OF A REPUBLICAN STRONG HOLD. HOW DO YOU HOPE TO CHANGE THAT? 531 00:14:35,709 --> 00:14:37,909 HOW DO YOU HOPE TO CHANGE THAT? >> WELL, TWO THINGS. 532 00:14:37,911 --> 00:14:38,576 >> WELL, TWO THINGS. FIRST IS WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY 533 00:14:38,578 --> 00:14:47,619 FIRST IS WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY ELECTED DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS. 534 00:14:47,621 --> 00:14:48,353 ELECTED DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS. SECOND, I JUST I NO LONGER THINK 535 00:14:48,355 --> 00:14:48,953 SECOND, I JUST I NO LONGER THINK THE REPUBLICAN AND THE 536 00:14:48,955 --> 00:14:49,687 THE REPUBLICAN AND THE DEMOCRATIC TAGS IS THE WAY THAT 537 00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:50,388 DEMOCRATIC TAGS IS THE WAY THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT POLITICS. 538 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:51,522 PEOPLE LOOK AT POLITICS. THEY WANT PROBLEM SOLVING. 539 00:14:51,524 --> 00:14:52,223 THEY WANT PROBLEM SOLVING. THEY WANT LEADERS. 540 00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:53,424 THEY WANT LEADERS. THEY CALL IT THE WAY THEY SEE 541 00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:53,892 THEY CALL IT THE WAY THEY SEE IT. 542 00:14:53,894 --> 00:14:54,993 IT. INDEPENDENT MINDED. 543 00:14:54,995 --> 00:14:56,427 INDEPENDENT MINDED. THEY PUT THE STATE FIRST, FIGHT 544 00:14:56,429 --> 00:14:58,329 THEY PUT THE STATE FIRST, FIGHT THE STATE'S BATTLE AGAINST 545 00:14:58,331 --> 00:14:59,397 THE STATE'S BATTLE AGAINST WASHINGTON WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. 546 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:00,164 WASHINGTON WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. PUTS PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE 547 00:15:00,166 --> 00:15:00,698 PUTS PARTISAN POLITICS ASIDE WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. 548 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:05,536 WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. GETS THE JOB DONE, AND GETS -- 549 00:15:05,538 --> 00:15:06,271 GETS THE JOB DONE, AND GETS -- HAS THE DISCIPLINE TO SAY, 550 00:15:06,273 --> 00:15:06,971 HAS THE DISCIPLINE TO SAY, ENOUGH OF THE RED VERSUS BLUE. 551 00:15:06,973 --> 00:15:12,176 ENOUGH OF THE RED VERSUS BLUE. ENOUGH OF THE SHARP STICKS. 552 00:15:12,178 --> 00:15:17,649 ENOUGH OF THE SHARP STICKS. IT'S JUST -- IT'S NOT ADDRESSING 553 00:15:17,651 --> 00:15:18,316 IT'S JUST -- IT'S NOT ADDRESSING OUR ECONOMIC AND EDUCATION 554 00:15:18,318 --> 00:15:18,616 OUR ECONOMIC AND EDUCATION NEEDS. 555 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:19,317 NEEDS. I PLAN TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY. 556 00:15:19,319 --> 00:15:20,118 I PLAN TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY. >> MR. DuVAL, DO YOU HAVE 557 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,052 >> MR. DuVAL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? 558 00:15:21,054 --> 00:15:21,986 ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? >> ONE OTHER THING. 559 00:15:21,988 --> 00:15:23,254 >> ONE OTHER THING. YOU KNOW, MY THREE PRIORITIES, I 560 00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:24,322 YOU KNOW, MY THREE PRIORITIES, I TALKED ABOUT EDUCATION, I TALKED 561 00:15:24,324 --> 00:15:25,123 TALKED ABOUT EDUCATION, I TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY. 562 00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:27,325 ABOUT THE ECONOMY. LET ME ADDRESS ONE FINAL THING. 563 00:15:27,327 --> 00:15:27,959 LET ME ADDRESS ONE FINAL THING. WE HAVE BECOME AN ETHICAL 564 00:15:27,961 --> 00:15:28,326 WE HAVE BECOME AN ETHICAL NIGHTMARE. 565 00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:29,060 NIGHTMARE. WE ARE NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY 566 00:15:29,062 --> 00:15:30,995 WE ARE NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY KNOWN FOR OUR POLITICS OF 567 00:15:30,997 --> 00:15:31,396 KNOWN FOR OUR POLITICS OF DYSFUNCTION. 568 00:15:31,398 --> 00:15:33,598 DYSFUNCTION. FOR POLITICIANS THAT ARE DEALING 569 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,332 FOR POLITICIANS THAT ARE DEALING WITH PAY BACKS AND SELF-INTEREST 570 00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:41,272 WITH PAY BACKS AND SELF-INTEREST AND IT HAS REALLY HURT OUR AND 571 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:42,640 AND IT HAS REALLY HURT OUR AND TO RECRUIT BUSINESSES AND 572 00:15:42,642 --> 00:15:43,107 TO RECRUIT BUSINESSES AND VENTURE CAPITAL. 573 00:15:43,109 --> 00:15:43,775 VENTURE CAPITAL. THE KIND OF GROWTH WE WANT. 574 00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:44,175 THE KIND OF GROWTH WE WANT. 1062, 1070. 575 00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:49,580 1062, 1070. THESE IDEOLOGICAL AND 576 00:15:49,582 --> 00:15:54,319 THESE IDEOLOGICAL AND SELF-INTERESTED POLITICAL 577 00:15:54,321 --> 00:15:54,919 SELF-INTERESTED POLITICAL AGENDAS ARE IN THE WAY. 578 00:15:54,921 --> 00:15:55,653 AGENDAS ARE IN THE WAY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING 579 00:15:55,655 --> 00:15:56,321 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO PURSUE IS AN INDEPENDENT 580 00:15:56,323 --> 00:15:57,255 TO PURSUE IS AN INDEPENDENT STATE ETHICS COMMISSION SO WE 581 00:15:57,257 --> 00:15:57,989 STATE ETHICS COMMISSION SO WE HAVE NONPARTISAN, NONPOLITICAL 582 00:15:57,991 --> 00:16:03,061 HAVE NONPARTISAN, NONPOLITICAL FOLKS WHO APPLY STATE LAW AND 583 00:16:03,063 --> 00:16:05,029 FOLKS WHO APPLY STATE LAW AND STATE POLITICIANS WHO ARE 584 00:16:05,031 --> 00:16:06,331 STATE POLITICIANS WHO ARE SELF-SERVING OR PLAYING GAMES, 585 00:16:06,333 --> 00:16:10,535 SELF-SERVING OR PLAYING GAMES, KNOCK IT OFF. 586 00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:11,269 KNOCK IT OFF. WE'LL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE AND 587 00:16:11,271 --> 00:16:11,970 WE'LL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE AND TRY TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN 588 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:12,704 TRY TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN STATE GOVERNMENT SO THAT VOTERS 589 00:16:12,706 --> 00:16:13,538 STATE GOVERNMENT SO THAT VOTERS CAN BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE 590 00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:15,606 CAN BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE KIND OF FUTURE WE ALL ASPIRE TO 591 00:16:15,608 --> 00:16:16,341 KIND OF FUTURE WE ALL ASPIRE TO IN THIS GREAT STATE. 592 00:16:16,343 --> 00:16:18,142 IN THIS GREAT STATE. >> YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE IMAGE 593 00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:18,943 >> YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE IMAGE OF ARIZONA. 594 00:16:18,945 --> 00:16:21,079 OF ARIZONA. >> IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. 595 00:16:21,081 --> 00:16:22,680 >> IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. IN A BORDERLESS ECONOMY, WHERE 596 00:16:22,682 --> 00:16:24,615 IN A BORDERLESS ECONOMY, WHERE STATE BORDERS AND NATIONAL 597 00:16:24,617 --> 00:16:25,883 STATE BORDERS AND NATIONAL BORDERS MEAN LESS AND LESS, 598 00:16:25,885 --> 00:16:28,019 BORDERS MEAN LESS AND LESS, WHERE VENTURE CAPITAL AND 599 00:16:28,021 --> 00:16:29,887 WHERE VENTURE CAPITAL AND BUSINESS GROWTH MOVES WHERE 600 00:16:29,889 --> 00:16:31,356 BUSINESS GROWTH MOVES WHERE OPPORTUNITY IS, BRAND MATTERS. 601 00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:32,557 OPPORTUNITY IS, BRAND MATTERS. WHEN YOU'RE VIEWED AS A STATE 602 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:33,257 WHEN YOU'RE VIEWED AS A STATE THAT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL, THAT IS 603 00:16:33,259 --> 00:16:39,330 THAT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL, THAT IS OVERLY PARTISAN, THAT HAS 604 00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:40,164 OVERLY PARTISAN, THAT HAS POLITICALLY SELF-INTERESTED 605 00:16:40,166 --> 00:16:42,567 POLITICALLY SELF-INTERESTED POLITICIANS THAT DON'T PUT 606 00:16:42,569 --> 00:16:43,234 POLITICIANS THAT DON'T PUT ECONOMIC, SMART STRATEGIES 607 00:16:43,236 --> 00:16:43,901 ECONOMIC, SMART STRATEGIES FIRST, WE SUFFER AND WE'RE 608 00:16:43,903 --> 00:16:44,602 FIRST, WE SUFFER AND WE'RE WATCHING THAT IN OUR ECONOMY. 609 00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:46,104 WATCHING THAT IN OUR ECONOMY. BUSINESS GROWTH IS NOT COMING 610 00:16:46,106 --> 00:16:46,838 BUSINESS GROWTH IS NOT COMING BACK THE WAY WE WANT IT TO AND 611 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,405 BACK THE WAY WE WANT IT TO AND BRAND REALLY MATTERS. 612 00:16:47,407 --> 00:16:48,973 BRAND REALLY MATTERS. I WANT ARIZONA TO BE KNOWN FOR 613 00:16:48,975 --> 00:16:53,411 I WANT ARIZONA TO BE KNOWN FOR WHAT I REALLY THINK IT IS. 614 00:16:53,413 --> 00:16:55,646 WHAT I REALLY THINK IT IS. AND INCLUSIVE, INVITING. 615 00:16:55,648 --> 00:16:56,214 AND INCLUSIVE, INVITING. PRO BUSINESS. 616 00:16:56,216 --> 00:16:56,881 PRO BUSINESS. A STATE THAT CELEBRATES OUR 617 00:16:56,883 --> 00:16:57,582 A STATE THAT CELEBRATES OUR DIVERSITY AND CELEBRATES THIS 618 00:16:57,584 --> 00:17:03,321 DIVERSITY AND CELEBRATES THIS UNIQUE STARTUP, INNOVATIVE, 619 00:17:03,323 --> 00:17:04,789 UNIQUE STARTUP, INNOVATIVE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH RISK. 620 00:17:04,791 --> 00:17:06,491 WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH RISK. WE COME FROM SOME PLACE ELSE. 621 00:17:06,493 --> 00:17:07,525 WE COME FROM SOME PLACE ELSE. WE START ANEW HERE. 622 00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:08,459 WE START ANEW HERE. THAT'S A WONDERFUL ASSET TO HAVE 623 00:17:08,461 --> 00:17:09,193 THAT'S A WONDERFUL ASSET TO HAVE IN THE 21st CENTURY ECONOMY AND 624 00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:13,164 IN THE 21st CENTURY ECONOMY AND WE SHOULD USE EVERY BIT OF IT. 625 00:17:13,166 --> 00:17:14,932 WE SHOULD USE EVERY BIT OF IT. >> AND JOINING ME NOW FOR THE 626 00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:16,501 >> AND JOINING ME NOW FOR THE ANALYSIS OF THE UPCOMING 627 00:17:16,503 --> 00:17:17,602 ANALYSIS OF THE UPCOMING GOVERNOR'S RACE, ARE JOE 628 00:17:17,604 --> 00:17:18,336 GOVERNOR'S RACE, ARE JOE FERGUSON, POLITICAL REPORTER AT 629 00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:18,970 FERGUSON, POLITICAL REPORTER AT THE "ARIZONA DAILY STAR." 630 00:17:18,972 --> 00:17:22,206 THE "ARIZONA DAILY STAR." AND JEREMY DUDA FROM THE ARIZONA 631 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:22,640 AND JEREMY DUDA FROM THE ARIZONA CAPITAL TIMES. 632 00:17:22,642 --> 00:17:23,307 CAPITAL TIMES. HE'S JOINING US FROM FELIX. 633 00:17:23,309 --> 00:17:26,744 HE'S JOINING US FROM FELIX. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 634 00:17:26,746 --> 00:17:27,478 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. JOE, DuVAL SAID THAT EDUCATION 635 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,917 JOE, DuVAL SAID THAT EDUCATION IS HIS PLATFORM AND HE'S 636 00:17:32,919 --> 00:17:34,318 IS HIS PLATFORM AND HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE'S LACK 637 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,521 CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE'S LACK OF FUNDING FOR EDUCATION. 638 00:17:36,523 --> 00:17:36,854 OF FUNDING FOR EDUCATION. >> SURE. 639 00:17:36,856 --> 00:17:37,555 >> SURE. FRED DuVAL HAS AN AREA WHERE 640 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:38,289 FRED DuVAL HAS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT CAN 641 00:17:38,291 --> 00:17:38,623 THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT CAN BE DONE. 642 00:17:38,625 --> 00:17:42,827 BE DONE. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE 643 00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:44,762 SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN EDUCATION, SO IT 644 00:17:44,764 --> 00:17:46,164 INTERESTED IN EDUCATION, SO IT BECOMES A NATURAL FIT FOR A 645 00:17:46,166 --> 00:17:46,931 BECOMES A NATURAL FIT FOR A FORMER CHAIR OF THE ARIZONA 646 00:17:46,933 --> 00:17:49,867 FORMER CHAIR OF THE ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS TO TALK ABOUT, 647 00:17:49,869 --> 00:17:51,335 BOARD OF REGENTS TO TALK ABOUT, MAKING CHANGES TO EDUCATION. 648 00:17:51,337 --> 00:17:52,036 MAKING CHANGES TO EDUCATION. >> HE SAID SOME THINGS IN THE 649 00:17:52,038 --> 00:17:52,770 >> HE SAID SOME THINGS IN THE INTERVIEW ABOUT ARIZONA LOSING 650 00:17:52,772 --> 00:18:02,013 INTERVIEW ABOUT ARIZONA LOSING SO MANY TEACHERS THAT CLASS SIZE 651 00:18:02,015 --> 00:18:02,647 SO MANY TEACHERS THAT CLASS SIZE IS EXTRAORDINARILY LARGE. 652 00:18:02,649 --> 00:18:03,381 IS EXTRAORDINARILY LARGE. WE HAVE SOME TROUBLE BEING ABLE 653 00:18:03,383 --> 00:18:04,048 WE HAVE SOME TROUBLE BEING ABLE TO CONFIRM THE NUMBERS THAT 654 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:04,715 TO CONFIRM THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE HEARING BUT HE IS ON 655 00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:05,817 WE'RE HEARING BUT HE IS ON TRACK, I MEAN THE NUMBERS ARE 656 00:18:05,819 --> 00:18:06,250 TRACK, I MEAN THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY BLEAK. 657 00:18:06,252 --> 00:18:07,618 PRETTY BLEAK. >> THEY'RE PRETTY BLEAK. 658 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:08,753 >> THEY'RE PRETTY BLEAK. WE KNOW THERE'S HIGH TURNOVERS 659 00:18:08,755 --> 00:18:10,121 WE KNOW THERE'S HIGH TURNOVERS IN THE SCHOOLS. 660 00:18:10,123 --> 00:18:11,456 IN THE SCHOOLS. WE KNOW THERE'S LARGE CLASS 661 00:18:11,458 --> 00:18:13,057 WE KNOW THERE'S LARGE CLASS SIZES COMPARED TO THE REST OF 662 00:18:13,059 --> 00:18:13,491 SIZES COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. 663 00:18:13,493 --> 00:18:16,294 THE COUNTRY. >> AND JEREMY, EDUCATION BEING 664 00:18:16,296 --> 00:18:18,463 >> AND JEREMY, EDUCATION BEING HIS PLATFORM, WHEREAS SOME OTHER 665 00:18:18,465 --> 00:18:19,764 HIS PLATFORM, WHEREAS SOME OTHER CANDIDATES, DOUG DUCEY TALKED OF 666 00:18:19,766 --> 00:18:21,666 CANDIDATES, DOUG DUCEY TALKED OF THE ECONOMY AND THE BORDER. 667 00:18:21,668 --> 00:18:23,301 THE ECONOMY AND THE BORDER. IS FRED DuVAL MAYBE GIVING 668 00:18:23,303 --> 00:18:24,001 IS FRED DuVAL MAYBE GIVING VOTERS THE RIGHT INFORMATION 669 00:18:24,003 --> 00:18:24,669 VOTERS THE RIGHT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO 670 00:18:24,671 --> 00:18:25,036 RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION? 671 00:18:25,038 --> 00:18:25,770 EDUCATION? >> WELL, HE'S GOT A MESSAGE THAT 672 00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:29,907 >> WELL, HE'S GOT A MESSAGE THAT I THINK -- YOU KNOW, ITS REALLY 673 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:30,975 I THINK -- YOU KNOW, ITS REALLY TOUCHES ON SOMETHING THAT A LOT 674 00:18:30,977 --> 00:18:31,709 TOUCHES ON SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN UPSET ABOUT 675 00:18:31,711 --> 00:18:32,410 OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN UPSET ABOUT WHICH IS THE MASSIVE CUTS WE 676 00:18:32,412 --> 00:18:36,614 WHICH IS THE MASSIVE CUTS WE HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY 677 00:18:36,616 --> 00:18:38,549 HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SINCE -- STARTING IN 2009 AS A 678 00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:40,084 SINCE -- STARTING IN 2009 AS A RESULT OF THE RECESSION AND THE 679 00:18:40,086 --> 00:18:41,886 RESULT OF THE RECESSION AND THE MAJOR BUDGET CUTS. 680 00:18:41,888 --> 00:18:43,654 MAJOR BUDGET CUTS. HE'S TALKING ABOUT RESTORING, 681 00:18:43,656 --> 00:18:45,022 HE'S TALKING ABOUT RESTORING, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION BASICALLY TO 682 00:18:45,024 --> 00:18:46,457 YOU KNOW, EDUCATION BASICALLY TO THE 2008 LEVEL. 683 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:46,991 THE 2008 LEVEL. WHICH IS TALL ORDER. 684 00:18:46,993 --> 00:18:47,692 WHICH IS TALL ORDER. BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ALL-TIME 685 00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:48,092 BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ALL-TIME RECORD HIGH. 686 00:18:48,094 --> 00:18:48,826 RECORD HIGH. RUNNING ON A MESSAGE OF NO MORE 687 00:18:48,828 --> 00:18:52,997 RUNNING ON A MESSAGE OF NO MORE EDUCATION CUTS. 688 00:18:52,999 --> 00:18:54,165 EDUCATION CUTS. AND I THINK EDUCATION IS GOING 689 00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:56,100 AND I THINK EDUCATION IS GOING TO PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN THE 690 00:18:56,102 --> 00:18:56,400 TO PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN THE RACE. 691 00:18:56,402 --> 00:18:57,835 RACE. YOU SEE DOUG DUCEY TALKING ABOUT 692 00:18:57,837 --> 00:18:58,569 YOU SEE DOUG DUCEY TALKING ABOUT THIS AS WELL. 693 00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:00,404 THIS AS WELL. SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THINGS HE'S 694 00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:01,239 SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THINGS HE'S TALKING MORE ABOUT CHARTER 695 00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:02,473 TALKING MORE ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND TRYING TO EMULATE 696 00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:05,443 SCHOOLS AND TRYING TO EMULATE THE BEST PRACTICES OF -- YOU 697 00:19:05,445 --> 00:19:06,377 THE BEST PRACTICES OF -- YOU KNOW, THE BEST DISTRICT AND 698 00:19:06,379 --> 00:19:07,145 KNOW, THE BEST DISTRICT AND CHARTER SCHOOLS. 699 00:19:07,147 --> 00:19:08,312 CHARTER SCHOOLS. BUT DuVAL HAS SEIZED ON 700 00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:08,980 BUT DuVAL HAS SEIZED ON EDUCATION AS HIS KEY ISSUE 701 00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:09,313 EDUCATION AS HIS KEY ISSUE THERE. 702 00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:10,047 THERE. >> ESPECIALLY I THINK LOOKING AT 703 00:19:10,049 --> 00:19:12,550 >> ESPECIALLY I THINK LOOKING AT THE RACE FOR SUPERINTENDENT 704 00:19:12,552 --> 00:19:13,584 THE RACE FOR SUPERINTENDENT PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, A VERY 705 00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:17,822 PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, A VERY CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT. 706 00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:18,523 CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT. THIS MAY BE FOR HIM THE RIGHT 707 00:19:18,525 --> 00:19:23,594 THIS MAY BE FOR HIM THE RIGHT TIME TO SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY, 708 00:19:23,596 --> 00:19:25,663 TIME TO SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY, JEREMY, WOULD YOU AGREE? 709 00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:26,931 JEREMY, WOULD YOU AGREE? >> DEFINITELY. 710 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:28,432 >> DEFINITELY. ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMMON CORE 711 00:19:28,434 --> 00:19:29,500 ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS OR THE COLLEGE AND 712 00:19:29,502 --> 00:19:30,101 STANDARDS OR THE COLLEGE AND CAREER READY STANDARDS. 713 00:19:30,103 --> 00:19:30,801 CAREER READY STANDARDS. YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE IS AT THE 714 00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:34,906 YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE IS AT THE FOREFRONT, YOU KNOW, FRED DuVAL 715 00:19:34,908 --> 00:19:37,041 FOREFRONT, YOU KNOW, FRED DuVAL IS VERY MUCH FOR THE STANDARDS. 716 00:19:37,043 --> 00:19:40,077 IS VERY MUCH FOR THE STANDARDS. DUCEY HAS SPOKEN OUT PRETTY 717 00:19:40,079 --> 00:19:41,212 DUCEY HAS SPOKEN OUT PRETTY VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THEM. 718 00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:43,314 VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THEM. THOUGH HE HASN'T COMMITTED TO 719 00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:44,015 THOUGH HE HASN'T COMMITTED TO GETTING RID OF THEM. 720 00:19:44,017 --> 00:19:45,116 GETTING RID OF THEM. I THINK THEY'LL TRY TO FIND 721 00:19:45,118 --> 00:19:47,385 I THINK THEY'LL TRY TO FIND OTHER AREAS OF EDUCATION BESIDES 722 00:19:47,387 --> 00:19:48,419 OTHER AREAS OF EDUCATION BESIDES THAT TO TALK ABOUT. 723 00:19:48,421 --> 00:19:50,154 THAT TO TALK ABOUT. THAT -- THE COMMON CORE 724 00:19:50,156 --> 00:19:51,389 THAT -- THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS HAVE DOMINATED EVERY 725 00:19:51,391 --> 00:19:52,323 STANDARDS HAVE DOMINATED EVERY CONVERSATION WE HAVE SEEN ON THE 726 00:19:52,325 --> 00:19:53,457 CONVERSATION WE HAVE SEEN ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN ALL KINDS OF 727 00:19:53,459 --> 00:19:54,158 CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN ALL KINDS OF RACES WHEN IT COMES TO K-12 728 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,525 RACES WHEN IT COMES TO K-12 EDUCATION. 729 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:55,193 EDUCATION. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER 730 00:19:55,195 --> 00:19:59,864 BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES THERE IN THE FUNDING AND, 731 00:19:59,866 --> 00:20:01,299 ISSUES THERE IN THE FUNDING AND, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING CHARTER 732 00:20:01,301 --> 00:20:02,133 YOU KNOW, EXPANDING CHARTER SCHOOLS AND IMPROVING TEACHER 733 00:20:02,135 --> 00:20:06,003 SCHOOLS AND IMPROVING TEACHER PAY. 734 00:20:06,005 --> 00:20:06,704 PAY. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT FRED 735 00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:07,305 A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT FRED DuVAL IS TALKING ABOUT. 736 00:20:07,307 --> 00:20:07,972 DuVAL IS TALKING ABOUT. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO HIGHER 737 00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:08,339 >> LET'S MOVE ON TO HIGHER EDUCATION. 738 00:20:08,341 --> 00:20:09,073 EDUCATION. JOE, HERE AT THE "ARIZONA DAILY 739 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:09,774 JOE, HERE AT THE "ARIZONA DAILY STAR" YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING 740 00:20:09,776 --> 00:20:10,441 STAR" YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING SOME OF THE ADS COMING OUT. 741 00:20:10,443 --> 00:20:13,578 SOME OF THE ADS COMING OUT. ONE THAT CAME OUT RECENTLY 742 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:14,779 ONE THAT CAME OUT RECENTLY PRETTY TERRIFYING FOR PEOPLE WHO 743 00:20:14,781 --> 00:20:16,514 PRETTY TERRIFYING FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WATCHING THE LOCAL NEWS 744 00:20:16,516 --> 00:20:17,582 MAY BE WATCHING THE LOCAL NEWS AND SEE THAT SUDDENLY. 745 00:20:17,584 --> 00:20:18,182 AND SEE THAT SUDDENLY. TELL US ABOUT THIS AD. 746 00:20:18,184 --> 00:20:18,916 TELL US ABOUT THIS AD. >> WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 747 00:20:18,918 --> 00:20:19,650 >> WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS AD TALKING 748 00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:24,222 REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS AD TALKING ABOUT EXPLAINING THE HIGHER 749 00:20:24,224 --> 00:20:29,794 ABOUT EXPLAINING THE HIGHER RATES OF TUITION, LINKING HIM TO 750 00:20:29,796 --> 00:20:30,962 RATES OF TUITION, LINKING HIM TO HIGHER EDUCATION WHEN HE WAS ON 751 00:20:30,964 --> 00:20:32,630 HIGHER EDUCATION WHEN HE WAS ON THE BOARD OF REGENTS BUT THE 752 00:20:32,632 --> 00:20:33,364 THE BOARD OF REGENTS BUT THE BOARD OF REGENTS IS TAKING MONEY 753 00:20:33,366 --> 00:20:34,098 BOARD OF REGENTS IS TAKING MONEY FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND 754 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:34,765 FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR AND PUTTING IT 755 00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:35,933 THE GOVERNOR AND PUTTING IT TOWARDS THE THREE UNIVERSITIES. 756 00:20:35,935 --> 00:20:38,336 TOWARDS THE THREE UNIVERSITIES. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION OF 757 00:20:38,338 --> 00:20:39,503 SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION OF THE CUTS CAME FROM THE 758 00:20:39,505 --> 00:20:39,904 THE CUTS CAME FROM THE LEGISLATURE. 759 00:20:39,906 --> 00:20:45,576 LEGISLATURE. AND SO THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR'S 760 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:46,210 AND SO THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION IS MAKING THE 761 00:20:46,212 --> 00:20:46,944 ASSOCIATION IS MAKING THE COMPARISON SAYING THAT DuVAL IS 762 00:20:46,946 --> 00:20:50,414 COMPARISON SAYING THAT DuVAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CUTS WHEN HE 763 00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:51,082 RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CUTS WHEN HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO 764 00:20:51,084 --> 00:20:51,816 DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE TUITION -- OR INCREASE 765 00:20:51,818 --> 00:20:55,253 INCREASE TUITION -- OR INCREASE REVENUE COMING IN. 766 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:56,554 REVENUE COMING IN. SO IT'S A BIG ISSUE. 767 00:20:56,556 --> 00:20:58,356 SO IT'S A BIG ISSUE. >> OKAY, LET'S LISTEN IN ON THAT 768 00:20:58,358 --> 00:20:58,689 >> OKAY, LET'S LISTEN IN ON THAT AD NOW. 769 00:20:58,691 --> 00:20:59,390 AD NOW. >> IT KEEPS PARENTS AWAKE AT 770 00:20:59,392 --> 00:21:00,891 >> IT KEEPS PARENTS AWAKE AT NIGHT. 771 00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:01,626 NIGHT. WORRYING ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF 772 00:21:01,628 --> 00:21:05,696 WORRYING ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF COLLEGE TUITION. 773 00:21:05,698 --> 00:21:08,199 COLLEGE TUITION. AND IT GETS MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY 774 00:21:08,201 --> 00:21:08,599 AND IT GETS MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY YEAR. 775 00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,401 YEAR. IT'S JUST NOT FAIR, BUT LOBBYIST 776 00:21:10,403 --> 00:21:11,102 IT'S JUST NOT FAIR, BUT LOBBYIST FRED DuVAL VOTED TO INCREASE 777 00:21:11,104 --> 00:21:11,836 FRED DuVAL VOTED TO INCREASE COLLEGE TUITION ON THE BOARD OF 778 00:21:11,838 --> 00:21:12,169 COLLEGE TUITION ON THE BOARD OF REGENTS. 779 00:21:12,171 --> 00:21:17,141 REGENTS. UNDER DuVAL TUITION AND FEES 780 00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:21,746 UNDER DuVAL TUITION AND FEES ROSE 99% DOUBLING THE PRICE OF 781 00:21:21,748 --> 00:21:22,079 ROSE 99% DOUBLING THE PRICE OF COLLEGE. 782 00:21:22,081 --> 00:21:22,813 COLLEGE. COSTING ARIZONA STUDENTS NEARLY 783 00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:25,149 COSTING ARIZONA STUDENTS NEARLY $5,000 MORE A YEAR. 784 00:21:25,151 --> 00:21:26,884 $5,000 MORE A YEAR. LOBBYIST FRED DuVAL MADE MIDDLE 785 00:21:26,886 --> 00:21:27,818 LOBBYIST FRED DuVAL MADE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES PAY MORE. 786 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:30,288 CLASS FAMILIES PAY MORE. COME ON, FRED, THAT'S NOT FAIR. 787 00:21:30,290 --> 00:21:31,022 COME ON, FRED, THAT'S NOT FAIR. >> NOW, WE TOOK A LOOK AT SOME 788 00:21:31,024 --> 00:21:31,489 >> NOW, WE TOOK A LOOK AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS. 789 00:21:31,491 --> 00:21:38,429 OF THE NUMBERS. IT'S NOT -- NOT TRUE. 790 00:21:38,431 --> 00:21:39,163 IT'S NOT -- NOT TRUE. IT IS TRUE, EXCUSE ME, THAT THE 791 00:21:39,165 --> 00:21:39,897 IT IS TRUE, EXCUSE ME, THAT THE COST FOR TUITION DID IN FACT GO 792 00:21:39,899 --> 00:21:40,164 COST FOR TUITION DID IN FACT GO UP. 793 00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:41,065 UP. >> ABSOLUTELY. 794 00:21:41,067 --> 00:21:41,799 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE DID SEE THE STATE CREATE 795 00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:42,500 >> WE DID SEE THE STATE CREATE SOME FUNDING -- FUNDING CUTS 796 00:21:42,502 --> 00:21:46,704 SOME FUNDING -- FUNDING CUTS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. 797 00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:48,572 DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. JEREMY, ADS LIKE THIS, DO THEY 798 00:21:48,574 --> 00:21:50,841 JEREMY, ADS LIKE THIS, DO THEY HELP OR HURT FRED WHO IS 799 00:21:50,843 --> 00:21:51,542 HELP OR HURT FRED WHO IS ACKNOWLEDGING, YES, THIS IS 800 00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:52,276 ACKNOWLEDGING, YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF THE 801 00:21:52,278 --> 00:21:52,877 SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL THAT HAD TO HAPPEN? 802 00:21:52,879 --> 00:21:53,611 DEAL THAT HAD TO HAPPEN? >> I MEAN, YEAH, PROBABLY DOES 803 00:21:53,613 --> 00:21:53,911 >> I MEAN, YEAH, PROBABLY DOES HURT. 804 00:21:53,913 --> 00:21:57,748 HURT. YOU KNOW, WHAT PARENT WANTS TO 805 00:21:57,750 --> 00:22:00,384 YOU KNOW, WHAT PARENT WANTS TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS GUY 806 00:22:00,386 --> 00:22:01,185 HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS GUY VOTED -- ASKING FOR THEIR VOTE, 807 00:22:01,187 --> 00:22:01,819 VOTED -- ASKING FOR THEIR VOTE, VOTED FOR ALL THE TUITION 808 00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:02,186 VOTED FOR ALL THE TUITION INCREASES. 809 00:22:02,188 --> 00:22:05,923 INCREASES. NOW OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, 810 00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:06,657 NOW OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY TRUE, BY SIDE STEPS 811 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:07,358 TECHNICALLY TRUE, BY SIDE STEPS THAT MAJOR ISSUE BECAUSE, YOU 812 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:11,762 THAT MAJOR ISSUE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MUCH LIKE K-12, BECAUSE OF 813 00:22:11,764 --> 00:22:13,664 KNOW, MUCH LIKE K-12, BECAUSE OF THE FISCAL CRISIS, THE 814 00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:15,433 THE FISCAL CRISIS, THE LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR BREWER 815 00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:16,734 LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR BREWER CUT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS FROM 816 00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:17,835 CUT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS FROM THE HIGHER EDUCATION BUDGET. 817 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:20,204 THE HIGHER EDUCATION BUDGET. THE BOARD OF REGENTS, YOU KNOW, 818 00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,006 THE BOARD OF REGENTS, YOU KNOW, RESPONDED WITH ALL THESE TUITION 819 00:22:22,008 --> 00:22:22,373 RESPONDED WITH ALL THESE TUITION INCREASES. 820 00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:23,107 INCREASES. WHICH DID, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH 821 00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:23,741 WHICH DID, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH DOUBLE THE TUITION RATES. 822 00:22:23,743 --> 00:22:27,978 DOUBLE THE TUITION RATES. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT 823 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:28,713 AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WELL, HE 824 00:22:28,715 --> 00:22:29,280 LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WELL, HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. 825 00:22:29,282 --> 00:22:32,750 DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WELL, 826 00:22:32,752 --> 00:22:36,587 OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO 827 00:22:36,589 --> 00:22:37,922 YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO RAISE IT SO MUCH. 828 00:22:37,924 --> 00:22:39,623 RAISE IT SO MUCH. BUT MOST OF THEM WERE 829 00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:40,024 BUT MOST OF THEM WERE AFTERWARDS. 830 00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:40,825 AFTERWARDS. BUT I THINK IT WILL BE AN 831 00:22:40,827 --> 00:22:42,960 BUT I THINK IT WILL BE AN EFFECTIVE HIT AND RIGHT NOW 832 00:22:42,962 --> 00:22:45,162 EFFECTIVE HIT AND RIGHT NOW UNFORTUNATELY FOR DuVAL, THE 833 00:22:45,164 --> 00:22:46,464 UNFORTUNATELY FOR DuVAL, THE RGA, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS 834 00:22:46,466 --> 00:22:47,465 RGA, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION, THEY'RE RUNNING A 835 00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:48,699 ASSOCIATION, THEY'RE RUNNING A LOT MORE ADS THAN HE'S RUNNING 836 00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:49,433 LOT MORE ADS THAN HE'S RUNNING RIGHT NOW. 837 00:22:49,435 --> 00:22:51,669 RIGHT NOW. HE'S KIND OF AN UNKNOWN TO MOST 838 00:22:51,671 --> 00:22:53,938 HE'S KIND OF AN UNKNOWN TO MOST VOTERS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE A 839 00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:54,271 VOTERS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE A PRIMARY. 840 00:22:54,273 --> 00:22:55,740 PRIMARY. SO AS VOTERS ARE JUST STARTING 841 00:22:55,742 --> 00:22:56,941 SO AS VOTERS ARE JUST STARTING TO LEARN ABOUT HIM, FOR A LOT OF 842 00:22:56,943 --> 00:22:58,776 TO LEARN ABOUT HIM, FOR A LOT OF THEM THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE 843 00:22:58,778 --> 00:22:59,143 THEM THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING. 844 00:22:59,145 --> 00:23:00,077 LEARNING. THIS MESSAGE. 845 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:01,812 THIS MESSAGE. >> AND JOE, WE TALKED ABOUT 846 00:23:01,814 --> 00:23:02,113 >> AND JOE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 847 00:23:02,115 --> 00:23:02,847 THIS. THIS AD CAME OUT NOW IN SPANISH, 848 00:23:02,849 --> 00:23:03,481 THIS AD CAME OUT NOW IN SPANISH, SO IT'S GAINING SOME MORE 849 00:23:03,483 --> 00:23:04,448 SO IT'S GAINING SOME MORE TRACTION IF YOU WILL AS THE TIME 850 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:09,887 TRACTION IF YOU WILL AS THE TIME GETS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER HERE. 851 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,255 GETS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER HERE. BUT HE HAS SAID, LOOK THIS IS 852 00:23:11,257 --> 00:23:11,989 BUT HE HAS SAID, LOOK THIS IS PART OF WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. 853 00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:12,723 PART OF WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN. WE CREATED OTHER SITUATIONS TO 854 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:17,795 WE CREATED OTHER SITUATIONS TO TRY AND HELP EASE THAT COST 855 00:23:17,797 --> 00:23:18,896 TRY AND HELP EASE THAT COST ISSUE THAT STUDENTS WERE FACING. 856 00:23:18,898 --> 00:23:19,597 ISSUE THAT STUDENTS WERE FACING. BUT DO VOTERS EVEN HEAR THAT 857 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:20,064 BUT DO VOTERS EVEN HEAR THAT MESSAGE ANYMORE? 858 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:24,702 MESSAGE ANYMORE? >> NO, THEY DON'T. 859 00:23:24,704 --> 00:23:26,737 >> NO, THEY DON'T. THEY HAVE -- THEY HEAR THE 860 00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:28,639 THEY HAVE -- THEY HEAR THE NUMBER, THE NUMBER OF TUITION 861 00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:29,006 NUMBER, THE NUMBER OF TUITION DOUBLING. 862 00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:30,174 DOUBLING. THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE FOCUSED ON 863 00:23:30,176 --> 00:23:33,043 THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE FOCUSED ON THE PILOT PROGRAMS AND ALL THE 864 00:23:33,045 --> 00:23:34,779 THE PILOT PROGRAMS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE 865 00:23:34,781 --> 00:23:35,646 OTHER THINGS THAT WERE MITIGATING THE COSTS AREN'T WHAT 866 00:23:35,648 --> 00:23:39,049 MITIGATING THE COSTS AREN'T WHAT MOST STUDENTS PAID FOR AND WHAT 867 00:23:39,051 --> 00:23:39,750 MOST STUDENTS PAID FOR AND WHAT PARENTS HAD THE APPROVE LOANS 868 00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:40,050 PARENTS HAD THE APPROVE LOANS FOR. 869 00:23:40,052 --> 00:23:40,785 FOR. >> ONE OF THE THINGS HE TALKED 870 00:23:40,787 --> 00:23:41,452 >> ONE OF THE THINGS HE TALKED ABOUT IN THE INTERVIEW, HIM 871 00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:43,621 ABOUT IN THE INTERVIEW, HIM SAYING THAT WE COULD HAVE CLOSED 872 00:23:43,623 --> 00:23:44,355 SAYING THAT WE COULD HAVE CLOSED UNIVERSITIES OR CUT PROGRAMS AND 873 00:23:44,357 --> 00:23:45,756 UNIVERSITIES OR CUT PROGRAMS AND THAT WAS SOMETHING WE SIMPLY 874 00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:51,929 THAT WAS SOMETHING WE SIMPLY COULD NOT AFFORD TO DO. 875 00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:53,030 COULD NOT AFFORD TO DO. JOE, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT 876 00:23:53,032 --> 00:23:53,831 JOE, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING 877 00:23:53,833 --> 00:23:57,134 MEANS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING AT HOME AND THINKING, WOW, YOU 878 00:23:57,136 --> 00:23:57,868 AT HOME AND THINKING, WOW, YOU REALLY DID HELP US THOUGH IT DID 879 00:23:57,870 --> 00:23:58,169 REALLY DID HELP US THOUGH IT DID HURT. 880 00:23:58,171 --> 00:23:58,903 HURT. >> A LOT OF PASSION IN TERMS OF 881 00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:03,073 >> A LOT OF PASSION IN TERMS OF EDUCATION, SO I'M NOT REALLY 882 00:24:03,075 --> 00:24:03,374 EDUCATION, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE. 883 00:24:03,376 --> 00:24:04,775 SURE. >> JEREMY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? 884 00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:05,509 >> JEREMY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I'M -- WELL, YOU KNOW, KIND 885 00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:06,043 >> I'M -- WELL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BALANCING GAME. 886 00:24:06,045 --> 00:24:13,017 OF A BALANCING GAME. AS YOU LOOK BACK AT, YOU KNOW, 887 00:24:13,019 --> 00:24:13,751 AS YOU LOOK BACK AT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROP 100, THE 888 00:24:13,753 --> 00:24:14,452 FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROP 100, THE TEMPORARY SALES TAX INCREASE, 889 00:24:14,454 --> 00:24:15,186 TEMPORARY SALES TAX INCREASE, THAT WAS PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY 890 00:24:15,188 --> 00:24:15,886 THAT WAS PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY IN -- BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WERE 891 00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:19,290 IN -- BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO PAY MORE TO OFF SET 892 00:24:19,292 --> 00:24:22,893 WILLING TO PAY MORE TO OFF SET SOME OF THE CUTS TO THINGS LIKE 893 00:24:22,895 --> 00:24:24,361 SOME OF THE CUTS TO THINGS LIKE K-12 EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY. 894 00:24:24,363 --> 00:24:26,230 K-12 EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT STILL CUTS TO THOSE THINGS. 895 00:24:26,232 --> 00:24:27,531 BUT STILL CUTS TO THOSE THINGS. THIS WAS AN OFF SET. 896 00:24:27,533 --> 00:24:29,166 THIS WAS AN OFF SET. SO PEOPLE -- WOULD PEOPLE HAVE 897 00:24:29,168 --> 00:24:30,501 SO PEOPLE -- WOULD PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WILLING TO PASS A TAX HIKE 898 00:24:30,503 --> 00:24:41,111 BEEN WILLING TO PASS A TAX HIKE THREE TIMES AS LARGE TO 899 00:24:41,113 --> 00:24:41,846 THREE TIMES AS LARGE TO ELIMINATE OR FOUR TIMES AS LARGE 900 00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:42,580 ELIMINATE OR FOUR TIMES AS LARGE TO ELIMINATE ALL THE CUTS, MAYBE 901 00:24:42,582 --> 00:24:43,080 TO ELIMINATE ALL THE CUTS, MAYBE NOT QUITE SO MUCH. 902 00:24:43,082 --> 00:24:43,747 NOT QUITE SO MUCH. DuVAL HAS A STRONG POINT, A 903 00:24:43,749 --> 00:24:44,381 DuVAL HAS A STRONG POINT, A STRONG CRITIQUE OF THE AD. 904 00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:45,115 STRONG CRITIQUE OF THE AD. A CHEAP SHOT IN A LOT OF WAYS, 905 00:24:45,117 --> 00:24:45,716 A CHEAP SHOT IN A LOT OF WAYS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE 906 00:24:45,718 --> 00:24:46,750 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO MAKE THE 907 00:24:46,752 --> 00:24:47,785 LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO MAKE THE CUTS AND PASS THE BUCK TO 908 00:24:47,787 --> 00:24:48,486 CUTS AND PASS THE BUCK TO SOMEONE ELSE. 909 00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:49,587 SOMEONE ELSE. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO HAD TO DEAL 910 00:24:49,589 --> 00:24:49,920 THEY'RE THE ONES WHO HAD TO DEAL WITH IT. 911 00:24:49,922 --> 00:24:50,654 WITH IT. BUT WILL PEOPLE FORGIVE DOUBLING 912 00:24:50,656 --> 00:24:55,960 BUT WILL PEOPLE FORGIVE DOUBLING TUITION IN, YOU KNOW, THE SPAN 913 00:24:55,962 --> 00:24:57,695 TUITION IN, YOU KNOW, THE SPAN OF WHAT, SEVEN YEARS OR SO. 914 00:24:57,697 --> 00:25:01,632 OF WHAT, SEVEN YEARS OR SO. YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HARDER -- A 915 00:25:01,634 --> 00:25:02,233 YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HARDER -- A LITTLE HARDER TO GAUGE. 916 00:25:02,235 --> 00:25:03,534 LITTLE HARDER TO GAUGE. >> OKAY. 917 00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:03,934 >> OKAY. WELL, OKAY. 918 00:25:03,936 --> 00:25:04,668 WELL, OKAY. WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT IN A FEW 919 00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:04,969 WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT IN A FEW WEEKS. 920 00:25:04,971 --> 00:25:13,043 WEEKS. HE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND 921 00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:13,711 HE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND THE BORDER AND HE SAID THE 922 00:25:13,713 --> 00:25:14,411 THE BORDER AND HE SAID THE BORDER IS NOT AS SECURE AS IT 923 00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:14,778 BORDER IS NOT AS SECURE AS IT COULD BE. 924 00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:15,446 COULD BE. WHAT IMPRESSION DID YOU GET 925 00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:22,353 WHAT IMPRESSION DID YOU GET ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS MOVING 926 00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:23,053 ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS MOVING FORWARD WITH BORDER SECURITY? 927 00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:23,787 FORWARD WITH BORDER SECURITY? >> HE TALKS A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT 928 00:25:23,789 --> 00:25:24,522 >> HE TALKS A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A 929 00:25:24,524 --> 00:25:25,256 HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT ARE PRETTY 930 00:25:25,258 --> 00:25:25,823 COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH DEAD ON ARRIVAL. 931 00:25:25,825 --> 00:25:26,457 MUCH DEAD ON ARRIVAL. THE IDEA THAT THE FEDERAL 932 00:25:26,459 --> 00:25:27,191 THE IDEA THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO PAY FOR 933 00:25:27,193 --> 00:25:27,825 GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO PAY FOR TROOPS ON THE BORDERS IS 934 00:25:27,827 --> 00:25:28,559 TROOPS ON THE BORDERS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS NOT 935 00:25:28,561 --> 00:25:29,193 SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS NOT REALLY A PRIORITY FOR HIM. 936 00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:30,961 REALLY A PRIORITY FOR HIM. IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE'S LOOKING 937 00:25:30,963 --> 00:25:31,695 IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE'S LOOKING FOR OTHER SOLUTIONS IN TERMS OF 938 00:25:31,697 --> 00:25:32,429 FOR OTHER SOLUTIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STATE CAN DO IN TERMS 939 00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:37,968 WHAT THE STATE CAN DO IN TERMS OF SECURING THE BORDER. 940 00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:39,737 OF SECURING THE BORDER. IT'S MORE WORKING WITH LOCAL LAW 941 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:40,437 IT'S MORE WORKING WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, LOBBYING THE 942 00:25:40,439 --> 00:25:41,138 ENFORCEMENT, LOBBYING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THINGS OF 943 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:41,572 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 944 00:25:41,574 --> 00:25:42,006 THAT NATURE. >> ALL RIGHT. 945 00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:42,706 >> ALL RIGHT. JEREMY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE 946 00:25:42,708 --> 00:25:46,577 JEREMY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE ECONOMY AND DOUG DUCEY REALLY 947 00:25:46,579 --> 00:25:48,078 ECONOMY AND DOUG DUCEY REALLY TALKING ABOUT HIS HOPE FOR THE 948 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,480 TALKING ABOUT HIS HOPE FOR THE ECONOMY AND WE SAW A NEW AD THAT 949 00:25:49,482 --> 00:25:50,681 ECONOMY AND WE SAW A NEW AD THAT CAME OUT WHERE HE SAYS THAT HE 950 00:25:50,683 --> 00:25:54,151 CAME OUT WHERE HE SAYS THAT HE DID WONDERS IN A BUSINESS, COLD 951 00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:55,853 DID WONDERS IN A BUSINESS, COLD STONE CREAMERY. 952 00:25:55,855 --> 00:25:57,354 STONE CREAMERY. ARE VOTERS LISTENING TO THAT, 953 00:25:57,356 --> 00:25:59,023 ARE VOTERS LISTENING TO THAT, THINKING THIS IS THE RIGHT MAN 954 00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:01,058 THINKING THIS IS THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS 955 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,293 FOR THE JOB SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS HIS RESUME? 956 00:26:02,295 --> 00:26:03,060 IS HIS RESUME? >> WHEN THE CANDIDATE WANTS TO 957 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:04,395 >> WHEN THE CANDIDATE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT GROWING THE ECONOMY, 958 00:26:04,397 --> 00:26:05,596 TALK ABOUT GROWING THE ECONOMY, HAVING THAT KIND OF BUSINESS 959 00:26:05,598 --> 00:26:06,664 HAVING THAT KIND OF BUSINESS RESUME CAN BE -- YOU KNOW, THAT 960 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:08,098 RESUME CAN BE -- YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE A MAJOR PLUS. 961 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:09,400 CAN BE A MAJOR PLUS. NOW OF COURSE, AS WE SAW IT 962 00:26:09,402 --> 00:26:11,201 NOW OF COURSE, AS WE SAW IT DURING THE PRIMARY, DUCEY HAS 963 00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:13,203 DURING THE PRIMARY, DUCEY HAS SOME KNOCKS AGAINST HIS BUSINESS 964 00:26:13,205 --> 00:26:15,039 SOME KNOCKS AGAINST HIS BUSINESS RECORD AS WELL WHICH I'M SURE 965 00:26:15,041 --> 00:26:16,874 RECORD AS WELL WHICH I'M SURE FRED DuVAL WILL TRY TO EXPLOIT. 966 00:26:16,876 --> 00:26:18,242 FRED DuVAL WILL TRY TO EXPLOIT. THAT LENDS SOME CREDIBILITY WHEN 967 00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,276 THAT LENDS SOME CREDIBILITY WHEN YOU CAN SAY I BUILT THIS 968 00:26:19,278 --> 00:26:21,178 YOU CAN SAY I BUILT THIS BUSINESS AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN 969 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:22,446 BUSINESS AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN TALKING ABOUT COLD STONE 970 00:26:22,448 --> 00:26:23,180 TALKING ABOUT COLD STONE CREAMERY EVERYONE IN THE STATE 971 00:26:23,182 --> 00:26:23,847 CREAMERY EVERYONE IN THE STATE PROBABLY DRIVES PAST TWO OR 972 00:26:23,849 --> 00:26:24,515 PROBABLY DRIVES PAST TWO OR THREE OF THEM ON THE WAY TO 973 00:26:24,517 --> 00:26:24,815 THREE OF THEM ON THE WAY TO WORK. 974 00:26:24,817 --> 00:26:25,449 WORK. THEY SEE THEM EVERYWHERE. 975 00:26:25,451 --> 00:26:27,651 THEY SEE THEM EVERYWHERE. THIS IS A HUGE BUSINESS. 976 00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:28,919 THIS IS A HUGE BUSINESS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE 977 00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:29,954 PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE STATE FOR A LONG TIME HAVE BEEN, 978 00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:31,622 STATE FOR A LONG TIME HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, SEEING THEM FOR 20 979 00:26:31,624 --> 00:26:31,922 YOU KNOW, SEEING THEM FOR 20 YEARS. 980 00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,157 YEARS. I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT 981 00:26:33,159 --> 00:26:34,091 I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT HELPS HIM OUT WHEN THEY CAN 982 00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:34,792 HELPS HIM OUT WHEN THEY CAN ASSOCIATE HIM WITH SOMETHING 983 00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:35,492 ASSOCIATE HIM WITH SOMETHING THAT VOTERS I THINK GENERALLY 984 00:26:35,494 --> 00:26:40,130 THAT VOTERS I THINK GENERALLY ASSOCIATE AS A SUCCESSFUL BRAND. 985 00:26:40,132 --> 00:26:40,564 ASSOCIATE AS A SUCCESSFUL BRAND. >> OKAY. 986 00:26:40,566 --> 00:26:42,132 >> OKAY. AND JOE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU 987 00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:43,233 AND JOE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD ON THIS. 988 00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:44,234 THE LAST WORD ON THIS. MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE GOT 989 00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:44,835 MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE GOT ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO GO. 990 00:26:44,837 --> 00:26:46,837 ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO GO. WE'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS 991 00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:48,105 WE'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS ESCALATE QUITE A BIT FOR THIS 992 00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:48,405 ESCALATE QUITE A BIT FOR THIS RACE. 993 00:26:48,407 --> 00:26:48,739 RACE. >> YEAH. 994 00:26:48,741 --> 00:26:49,974 >> YEAH. WE CAN EXPECT A LOT OF ADS. 995 00:26:49,976 --> 00:26:53,110 WE CAN EXPECT A LOT OF ADS. WE CAN EXPECT A LOT OF VISITS 996 00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:57,214 WE CAN EXPECT A LOT OF VISITS HERE IN TOWN FOR THE CANDIDATES 997 00:26:57,216 --> 00:26:57,948 HERE IN TOWN FOR THE CANDIDATES AS THEY TRY TO GRAB INDEPENDENT 998 00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:59,783 AS THEY TRY TO GRAB INDEPENDENT VOTERS IN THE COUNTIES. 999 00:26:59,785 --> 00:27:01,385 VOTERS IN THE COUNTIES. >> JEREMY, THESE TWO GUYS ARE 1000 00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:02,519 >> JEREMY, THESE TWO GUYS ARE FRIENDS AND THEY HAVE A PRETTY 1001 00:27:02,521 --> 00:27:06,890 FRIENDS AND THEY HAVE A PRETTY DECENT RELATIONSHIP. 1002 00:27:06,892 --> 00:27:07,625 DECENT RELATIONSHIP. SO HOW DOES THIS MOVE FORWARD IN 1003 00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:08,158 SO HOW DOES THIS MOVE FORWARD IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS? 1004 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,628 THE LAST FEW WEEKS? >> I MEAN, IT WILL BE A NASTY 1005 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:10,928 >> I MEAN, IT WILL BE A NASTY FIGHT. 1006 00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:14,832 FIGHT. I THINK DuVAL AND DUCEY WILL TRY 1007 00:27:14,834 --> 00:27:15,566 I THINK DuVAL AND DUCEY WILL TRY TO STAY AS POSITIVE AS THEY CAN. 1008 00:27:15,568 --> 00:27:19,003 TO STAY AS POSITIVE AS THEY CAN. BUT THAT'S WHAT INDEPENDENT 1009 00:27:19,005 --> 00:27:19,870 BUT THAT'S WHAT INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES ARE FOR AS WE HAVE 1010 00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:22,139 EXPENDITURES ARE FOR AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH THE REPUBLICANS 1011 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:25,909 SEEN WITH THE REPUBLICANS GOVERNOR ASSOCIATION. 1012 00:27:25,911 --> 00:27:26,610 GOVERNOR ASSOCIATION. THAT PRIMARY THAT DUCEY JUST 1013 00:27:26,612 --> 00:27:27,277 THAT PRIMARY THAT DUCEY JUST WON, THAT WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. 1014 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:28,012 WON, THAT WAS PRETTY BRUTAL. THERE WAS A LOT OF MUD SLINGING. 1015 00:27:28,014 --> 00:27:28,846 THERE WAS A LOT OF MUD SLINGING. I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE 1016 00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:30,047 I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE ALL THAT MUCH AS WE HEAD TO 1017 00:27:30,049 --> 00:27:30,414 ALL THAT MUCH AS WE HEAD TO NOVEMBER. 1018 00:27:30,416 --> 00:27:30,814 NOVEMBER. >> OKAY. 1019 00:27:30,816 --> 00:27:32,616 >> OKAY. A LOT ON THE LINE. 1020 00:27:32,618 --> 00:27:33,717 A LOT ON THE LINE. OF COURSE, ARIZONA HERE. 1021 00:27:33,719 --> 00:27:34,618 OF COURSE, ARIZONA HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, GENTLEMEN, 1022 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:35,819 THANK YOU SO MUCH, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. 1023 00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:36,920 FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PROGRAM. 1024 00:27:36,922 --> 00:27:39,390 THAT CONCLUDES OUR PROGRAM. FOR NEXT WEEK WE HAVE INVITED 1025 00:27:39,392 --> 00:27:43,127 FOR NEXT WEEK WE HAVE INVITED REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL 1026 00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:43,794 REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE DOUG DUCEY FOR A 1027 00:27:43,796 --> 00:27:44,361 CANDIDATE DOUG DUCEY FOR A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW. 1028 00:27:44,363 --> 00:27:46,897 ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW. FROM ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC 1029 00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:47,664 FROM ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC ME