WEBVTT 00:01.768 --> 00:05.803 align:start >>> LOOKING BACK ON YARNELL, A 00:05.806 --> 00:06.804 align:start WILDFIRE THAT CLAIMED THE LIVES 00:06.807 --> 00:07.739 align:start OF 19 MEN. 00:07.742 --> 00:09.040 align:start >> IT WAS DECISION AFTER 00:09.043 --> 00:11.776 align:start DECISION THAT WAS MADE OR NOT 00:11.779 --> 00:13.244 align:start MADE THAT ULTIMATELY LED TO THIS 00:13.247 --> 00:14.779 align:start CREW BEING ALONE ON A MOUNTAIN. 00:14.782 --> 00:16.447 align:start >> FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'RE 00:16.450 --> 00:16.748 align:start HEARING FROM THE 20th MAN ON THE 00:16.751 --> 00:21.352 align:start CREW. 00:21.355 --> 00:24.188 align:start >> I NEEDED TO TELL MY BROTHER'S 00:24.191 --> 00:25.323 align:start STORY AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD 00:25.326 --> 00:28.159 align:start TELL THAT IS IF I OPENED UP LIFE 00:28.162 --> 00:38.336 align:start AFTER THE YARNELL HILL FIRE. 00:38.339 --> 00:40.505 align:start THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 00:40.508 --> 00:42.473 align:start >>> THREE YEARS AGO, LIGHTNING 00:42.476 --> 00:43.574 align:start SPARKED ONE OF THE DEADLIEST 00:43.577 --> 00:45.109 align:start WILDFIRES IN AMERICAN HISTORY. 00:45.112 --> 00:46.711 align:start FLAMES BURNED FOR MORE THAN TEN 00:46.714 --> 00:49.247 align:start DAYS AND IN THE END CLAIMED THE 00:49.250 --> 00:51.616 align:start LIVES OF 19 MEN. 00:51.619 --> 00:53.885 align:start BUT 20 MEN WERE PART OF THE 00:53.888 --> 00:56.187 align:start GRANITE MOUNTAIN HOT SHOT CREW. 00:56.190 --> 00:57.055 align:start ON THAT DAY BRENDAN McDONOUGH 00:57.058 --> 00:58.389 align:start SERVED AS LOOKOUT. 00:58.392 --> 01:00.458 align:start THREE YEARS AFTER THE TRAGEDY 01:00.461 --> 01:03.428 align:start HE'S WRITTEN A BOOK ABOUT HOW 01:03.431 --> 01:03.728 align:start BEING A HOT SHOT CHANGED HIS 01:03.731 --> 01:05.496 align:start LIFE. 01:05.499 --> 01:07.265 align:start WHAT DOES BEING A HOT SHOT MEAN 01:07.268 --> 01:07.732 align:start TO YOU, WHAT DID IT MEAN FOR 01:07.735 --> 01:09.967 align:start YOU? 01:09.970 --> 01:10.568 align:start >> AT FIRST WHAT IT MEANT WAS A 01:10.571 --> 01:12.370 align:start PAYCHECK. 01:12.373 --> 01:13.104 align:start AND A WAY TO SUPPORT MY 01:13.107 --> 01:14.072 align:start DAUGHTER. 01:14.075 --> 01:15.740 align:start AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS FIGHTING 01:15.743 --> 01:18.276 align:start FOR. 01:18.279 --> 01:18.609 align:start THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO, YOU 01:18.612 --> 01:20.311 align:start KNOW. 01:20.314 --> 01:21.679 align:start I KIND OF DIVED INTO PRETTY DARK 01:21.682 --> 01:22.613 align:start PLACES WITH MY DAUGHTER AND 01:22.616 --> 01:28.786 align:start WHERE I NEEDED TO BE. 01:28.789 --> 01:30.121 align:start AND -- AS I LEARNED ABOUT 01:30.124 --> 01:32.457 align:start FIREFIGHT, AS I LEARNED ABOUT 01:32.460 --> 01:33.891 align:start THESE GUYS AND WHO THEY WERE AND 01:33.894 --> 01:37.662 align:start WHAT THEY STOOD FOR, NOT ONLY ON 01:37.665 --> 01:40.198 align:start THE LINE BUT AT HOME, IT WAS 01:40.201 --> 01:42.567 align:start MORE THE WEREHOOD, IT WAS MORE 01:42.570 --> 01:45.303 align:start THAN JUST GETTING A PAYCHECK. 01:45.306 --> 01:46.270 align:start IT WAS MORE THAN SUPPORTING MY 01:46.273 --> 01:47.305 align:start DAUGHTER. 01:47.308 --> 01:50.608 align:start BECOMING A BETTER FATHER, NOT 01:50.611 --> 01:52.543 align:start ONLY LEARNING LESSONS THAT I'D 01:52.546 --> 01:54.712 align:start HAVE JUST IN, BUT LESSONS I'LL 01:54.715 --> 01:55.013 align:start CARRY WITH ME THE REST OF MY 01:55.016 --> 01:55.747 align:start LIFE. 01:55.750 --> 01:57.148 align:start >> TELL ME ABOUT THAT ADRENALINE 01:57.151 --> 01:58.149 align:start YOU WOULD FEEL WHEN YOU GET 01:58.152 --> 01:59.317 align:start CALLED TO A FIRE. 01:59.320 --> 02:00.184 align:start WHAT WAS YOUR SAYING AS YOU 02:00.187 --> 02:01.919 align:start ROLLED OUT OF THE PARKING LOT? 02:01.922 --> 02:04.355 align:start >> I'D JUST BE SO EXCITED. 02:04.358 --> 02:04.722 align:start I'D BE YELLING AND HOOTING AND 02:04.725 --> 02:07.025 align:start HOLLERING. 02:07.028 --> 02:08.526 align:start JUST LIKE SHAKING GUYS' CHAIRS 02:08.529 --> 02:09.127 align:start AND STUFF. 02:09.130 --> 02:13.264 align:start YOU KNOW, JUST FULL OF 02:13.267 --> 02:15.433 align:start EXCITEMENT. 02:15.436 --> 02:16.768 align:start THAT I WAS ABLE TO DO SOMETHING 02:16.771 --> 02:17.135 align:start THAT WAS PROVIDING FOR MY 02:17.138 --> 02:18.436 align:start DAUGHTER. 02:18.439 --> 02:21.105 align:start >> IN THE BOOK YOU SAY THAT LOT 02:21.108 --> 02:21.506 align:start OF IT IS FINANCIAL, IT WAS FOR 02:21.509 --> 02:22.640 align:start MICHAELA. 02:22.643 --> 02:23.941 align:start THEN THERE'S THAT MOMENT WHERE 02:23.944 --> 02:25.777 align:start YOU'RE SITTING DOWN TO CHOW, YOU 02:25.780 --> 02:26.911 align:start CAN SEE THOSE FAMILIES, YOU 02:26.914 --> 02:27.211 align:start REALIZE, THEY JUST LOST THEIR 02:27.214 --> 02:29.881 align:start HOME. 02:29.884 --> 02:32.150 align:start THAT'S WHEN IT HIT IT FOR YOU, 02:32.153 --> 02:34.686 align:start THAT YOU SAID, I'M DOING THIS TO 02:34.689 --> 02:35.353 align:start SAVE SOMEONE'S PROPERTY, THEIR 02:35.356 --> 02:37.021 align:start LIVELIHOOD, THEIR MEMORIES. 02:37.024 --> 02:38.389 align:start >> YEAH, YOU TRULY CAN'T -- 02:38.392 --> 02:39.424 align:start THERE'S SOME THINGS IN LIFE YOU 02:39.427 --> 02:40.825 align:start CAN'T UNDERSTAND UNLESS YOU'VE 02:40.828 --> 02:41.125 align:start BEEN THROUGH THEM AND WITNESSED 02:41.128 --> 02:43.494 align:start THEM. 02:43.497 --> 02:45.463 align:start THAT WAS MY FIRST EXPERIENCE 02:45.466 --> 02:47.031 align:start DOWN ON THE MONUMENT FIRE OF 02:47.034 --> 02:48.933 align:start WHAT WE WERE DOING AND WHY WE 02:48.936 --> 02:52.837 align:start WERE DOING IT. 02:52.840 --> 02:54.238 align:start AND WHY I WAS WITH WHO I WAS. 02:54.241 --> 02:56.908 align:start IT JUST HIT ME. 02:56.911 --> 03:01.546 align:start WHEN I SAW THEIR FACES. 03:01.549 --> 03:04.716 align:start AND KNOWING THAT IT'S NOT -- 03:04.719 --> 03:06.217 align:start IT'S NOT THE HOME, IT'S NOT THE 03:06.220 --> 03:06.517 align:start STRUCTURE, THE HOME, THAT THEY 03:06.520 --> 03:08.286 align:start MISS. 03:08.289 --> 03:09.420 align:start IT'S THE THINGS THAT ARE INSIDE. 03:09.423 --> 03:10.154 align:start THE MEMORIES. 03:10.157 --> 03:11.756 align:start THE FAMILY. 03:11.759 --> 03:12.790 align:start THE BARBECUES THEY HAD. 03:12.793 --> 03:17.562 align:start IT'S THE CHRISTMAS DINNERS. 03:17.565 --> 03:18.296 align:start THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I 03:18.299 --> 03:21.199 align:start SOMETIMES DIDN'T HAVE THAT WERE 03:21.202 --> 03:22.667 align:start THE BEST. 03:22.670 --> 03:24.035 align:start BUT I DO REMEMBER THE GOOD ONES. 03:24.038 --> 03:25.136 align:start I REMEMBER THE ONES WITH MY 03:25.139 --> 03:26.504 align:start MOTHER AND MY BROTHER. 03:26.507 --> 03:27.939 align:start I REMEMBER THOSE ONES. 03:27.942 --> 03:29.874 align:start AND THEY STUCK IN MY HEAD. 03:29.877 --> 03:30.608 align:start AND I WANTED TO DO EVERYTHING I 03:30.611 --> 03:33.845 align:start COULD TO CONTINUE TO LET PEOPLE 03:33.848 --> 03:35.279 align:start HAVE THAT. 03:35.282 --> 03:36.014 align:start IT'S NOT THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW. 03:36.017 --> 03:39.017 align:start IT'S THE MEMORIES THAT ARE BUILT 03:39.020 --> 03:40.551 align:start IN IT. 03:40.554 --> 03:40.952 align:start AND THAT'S WHAT I FOUGHT SO HARD 03:40.955 --> 03:43.221 align:start FOR. 03:43.224 --> 03:43.521 align:start THAT'S WHAT WE ALL FIGHT SO HARD 03:43.524 --> 03:45.590 align:start FOR. 03:45.593 --> 03:47.425 align:start >> IN THE BOOK YOU TALK ABOUT 03:47.428 --> 03:48.960 align:start THE HORSESHOE TWO FIRE, HOW IT 03:48.963 --> 03:50.995 align:start WAS A DIFFERENT KIND OF FIRE 03:50.998 --> 03:52.830 align:start THAN YOU HAD SEEN BEFORE. 03:52.833 --> 03:53.831 align:start DID THAT PREPARE YOU FOR WHAT 03:53.834 --> 03:55.466 align:start YARNELL TURNED OUT TO BE? 03:55.469 --> 03:58.803 align:start >> LOOKING BACK, I THINK EVERY 03:58.806 --> 04:00.138 align:start FIRE I WAS ON KIND OF PREPARED 04:00.141 --> 04:02.440 align:start ME WITHIN MY TWO AND A HALF 04:02.443 --> 04:08.746 align:start YEARS BEING A HOT SHOT, I SAW A 04:08.749 --> 04:09.180 align:start LOT OF FIRES THAT WERE VERY -- 04:09.183 --> 04:12.116 align:start VERY POWERFUL. 04:12.119 --> 04:13.985 align:start A LOT OF THEM WERE THE BIGGEST 04:13.988 --> 04:15.086 align:start FIRES THAT SOME OF THE STATE WET 04:15.089 --> 04:17.155 align:start WERE IN HAD SEEN. 04:17.158 --> 04:19.090 align:start AND THEY'VE CONTINUED TO GROW. 04:19.093 --> 04:21.059 align:start I FEEL LIKE WITHIN THE LAST FIVE 04:21.062 --> 04:22.193 align:start YEARS, THE FIRE SEASON'S JUST 04:22.196 --> 04:24.462 align:start CONTINUED TO BUILD AND BUILD AND 04:24.465 --> 04:26.230 align:start COMPOUND ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. 04:26.233 --> 04:27.999 align:start >> BRENDAN WAS 19 YEARS OLD WHEN 04:28.002 --> 04:28.666 align:start HE JOINED THE GRANITE MOUNTAIN 04:28.669 --> 04:31.002 align:start HOT SHOTS. 04:31.005 --> 04:32.537 align:start AS A CREW THEY TRAVELED ALL OVER 04:32.540 --> 04:34.372 align:start ARIZONA AND THE SOUTHWEST. 04:34.375 --> 04:36.040 align:start THEN THE WEEK OF JUNE 30th. 04:36.043 --> 04:37.475 align:start A CALL TO FIGHT FLAMES RIGHT 04:37.478 --> 04:39.110 align:start OUTSIDE THEIR HOMETOWN OF 04:39.113 --> 04:40.878 align:start PRESCOTT IN A SLEEPY TOWN OF 04:40.881 --> 04:43.748 align:start YARNELL. 04:43.751 --> 04:44.749 align:start TELL ME ABOUT JUNE 30th. 04:44.752 --> 04:45.183 align:start YOU THINK IT'S SORT OF RUN OF 04:45.186 --> 04:45.983 align:start THE MILL. 04:45.986 --> 04:49.187 align:start YOU'RE GOING TO GO FIGHT ANOTHER 04:49.190 --> 04:50.488 align:start FIRE. 04:50.491 --> 04:50.755 align:start WHAT WAS SO DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS 04:50.758 --> 04:54.459 align:start ONE? 04:54.462 --> 04:55.426 align:start >> JUNE 30th -- UNTIL MY 04:55.429 --> 04:59.063 align:start BROTHERS DIED, THERE'S NOTHING 04:59.066 --> 04:59.831 align:start DIFFERENT ABOUT IT. 04:59.834 --> 05:03.701 align:start IT WAS LIKE ANY OTHER DAY OF 05:03.704 --> 05:04.969 align:start FIREFIGHTING. 05:04.972 --> 05:07.538 align:start YOU KNOW, EXPECTING TO BE THERE 05:07.541 --> 05:10.475 align:start FOR TWO WEEKS OR EXPECTING TO BE 05:10.478 --> 05:14.812 align:start HOME THE NEXT DAY OR, YOU KNOW, 05:14.815 --> 05:15.580 align:start JUST -- ENDLESS QUESTIONS AND 05:15.583 --> 05:17.782 align:start CONTINUING TO TRY AND FIND THOSE 05:17.785 --> 05:21.686 align:start ANSWERS. 05:21.689 --> 05:23.354 align:start IT'S JUST -- I THINK -- THE 05:23.357 --> 05:25.523 align:start MARINE CORPS SAYS THAT, YOU 05:25.526 --> 05:29.060 align:start KNOW, REMAIN FLEXIBLE. 05:29.063 --> 05:30.528 align:start I THINK THAT STICKS WITH WILD 05:30.531 --> 05:32.296 align:start LAND FIREFIGHTS AS WELL. 05:32.299 --> 05:33.031 align:start REMAIN FLEXIBLE BECAUSE THE PLAN 05:33.034 --> 05:34.832 align:start CAN ALWAYS CHANGE. 05:34.835 --> 05:36.200 align:start GOING INTO THAT DAY THAT MORNING 05:36.203 --> 05:36.501 align:start IT WAS LIKE ANY OTHER DAY ON A 05:36.504 --> 05:38.202 align:start FIRE. 05:38.205 --> 05:41.272 align:start GO IN, GET A BRIEFING, FIND A 05:41.275 --> 05:44.642 align:start PIECE OF LINE TO DIG INTO, GET A 05:44.645 --> 05:45.610 align:start LOOKOUT, GET A SAFETY ZONE, 05:45.613 --> 05:47.645 align:start ESTABLISH LC, GET THOSE THINGS 05:47.648 --> 05:49.514 align:start GOING. 05:49.517 --> 05:51.516 align:start AND PUT IT OUT. 05:51.519 --> 05:53.017 align:start WHETHER IT TOOK ONE DAY, FIVE 05:53.020 --> 05:54.719 align:start DAYS, TWO WEEKS. 05:54.722 --> 05:56.187 align:start I MEAN, SOMETIMES YOU'RE HOME 05:56.190 --> 05:58.589 align:start FOR TWO DAYS AND YOU COME BACK 05:58.592 --> 05:59.691 align:start AND FIGHT THE SAME EXACT FIRE. 05:59.694 --> 06:00.491 align:start SO THAT WAS KIND OF MINDSET IN 06:00.494 --> 06:02.226 align:start THE MORNING. 06:02.229 --> 06:03.027 align:start JUST READY TO DO THE JOB, 06:03.030 --> 06:04.862 align:start WHATEVER IT HAD. 06:04.865 --> 06:07.332 align:start >> AS YOU WATCHED THE FLAMES AND 06:07.335 --> 06:08.633 align:start YOU WERE THE LOOKOUT THAT DAY, 06:08.636 --> 06:09.434 align:start NOTHING LOOKED OUT OF THE 06:09.437 --> 06:10.702 align:start ORDINARY TO YOU? 06:10.705 --> 06:14.372 align:start >> NO, NOT UNTIL THE WEATHER 06:14.375 --> 06:16.341 align:start STARTED TO SHIFT. 06:16.344 --> 06:17.709 align:start WHAT IS SO HARD I THINK FOR 06:17.712 --> 06:19.510 align:start PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IS THE 06:19.513 --> 06:21.212 align:start VANTAGE POINT THAT MY BROTHERS 06:21.215 --> 06:23.414 align:start DID HAVE. 06:23.417 --> 06:25.249 align:start YOU KNOW, ALMOST 100% SIMILAR 06:25.252 --> 06:26.017 align:start VIEW OF WHAT I WAS SEEING IS 06:26.020 --> 06:27.085 align:start WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. 06:27.088 --> 06:31.789 align:start JUST FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE. 06:31.792 --> 06:37.595 align:start AND SO -- IT WAS JUST ONE OF 06:37.598 --> 06:38.529 align:start THOSE DAYS -- THAT AS IT 06:38.532 --> 06:42.333 align:start UNFOLDED, THINGS CONTINUED TO 06:42.336 --> 06:44.969 align:start FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. 06:44.972 --> 06:47.005 align:start COULD HAVE BEEN DONE, COULD HAVE 06:47.008 --> 06:47.939 align:start SHOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE TO DEATH. 06:47.942 --> 06:49.340 align:start BUT THAT'S JUST I GUESS THE 06:49.343 --> 06:51.442 align:start NATURE OF THE JOB. 06:51.445 --> 06:55.246 align:start LEARNING HOW TO ADAPT WITH 06:55.249 --> 06:55.947 align:start DIFFERENT CHANGES. 06:55.950 --> 06:56.647 align:start >> THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTION 06:56.650 --> 06:57.482 align:start ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY 06:57.485 --> 06:58.216 align:start WHAT WENT WRONG. 06:58.219 --> 07:01.419 align:start FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, HOW DID 07:01.422 --> 07:03.354 align:start THIS HAPPEN? 07:03.357 --> 07:04.155 align:start >> I THINK IT WASN'T ONE 07:04.158 --> 07:07.358 align:start DECISION. 07:07.361 --> 07:08.793 align:start I THINK IT WAS A MULTIPLETUDE OF 07:08.796 --> 07:10.094 align:start DIFFERENT THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET 07:10.097 --> 07:15.900 align:start PUT IN PLACE. 07:15.903 --> 07:17.769 align:start OR WASN'T EXECUTED TO 100%. 07:17.772 --> 07:19.671 align:start AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 07:19.674 --> 07:20.471 align:start THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO 07:20.474 --> 07:22.540 align:start 100% IN. 07:22.543 --> 07:23.641 align:start WE CAN'T BE PERFECT IN ANYTHING 07:23.644 --> 07:24.809 align:start THAT WE DO IN LIFE. 07:24.812 --> 07:25.977 align:start THERE'S NOT ONE THING THAT 07:25.980 --> 07:27.512 align:start SOMEONE COULD SIT THERE AND SAY, 07:27.515 --> 07:29.247 align:start I'M PERFECT IN THIS. 07:29.250 --> 07:33.685 align:start IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 07:33.688 --> 07:34.952 align:start SO WE HAVE ALL THESE OTHER 07:34.955 --> 07:36.754 align:start BACKUP PLANS OR RESOURCES THAT 07:36.757 --> 07:38.556 align:start WE USE TO TRY AND MAKE IT THE 07:38.559 --> 07:40.058 align:start BEST SITUATION POSSIBLE TO DEAL 07:40.061 --> 07:41.626 align:start WITH WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. 07:41.629 --> 07:43.761 align:start I MEAN, WE ARE FIGHTING A 07:43.764 --> 07:45.930 align:start NATURAL DISASTER. 07:45.933 --> 07:48.599 align:start YOU DON'T SEND SOMEONE TO GO 07:48.602 --> 07:50.668 align:start CORRAL A TORNADO. 07:50.671 --> 07:52.437 align:start WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT. 07:52.440 --> 07:54.672 align:start YOU WAIT TILL THE AFTERMATH AND 07:54.675 --> 07:57.008 align:start YOU COME IN AND GIVE HELP AND 07:57.011 --> 07:59.510 align:start TRY AND DO THE BEST YOU CAN. 07:59.513 --> 08:02.113 align:start FOR US, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FIGHTING 08:02.116 --> 08:03.047 align:start THESE FIRES THAT ARE 08:03.050 --> 08:04.349 align:start TREMENDOUSLY HUGE WITH A SMALL 08:04.352 --> 08:05.283 align:start AMOUNT OF RESOURCES. 08:05.286 --> 08:07.785 align:start >> IN THE BOOK YOU DESCRIBE 08:07.788 --> 08:08.086 align:start THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND 08:08.089 --> 08:09.921 align:start FORTH. 08:09.924 --> 08:11.989 align:start IT SOUNDS LIKE CHAOS TO ME. 08:11.992 --> 08:13.691 align:start AT WHAT POINT DID YOU REALIZE 08:13.694 --> 08:14.926 align:start THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT, THAT 08:14.929 --> 08:15.226 align:start SOMETHING HAD GONE TERRIBLY 08:15.229 --> 08:17.128 align:start WRONG? 08:17.131 --> 08:18.029 align:start >> FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE -- I CAN 08:18.032 --> 08:20.031 align:start UNDERSTAND WHERE IT CAN SEEM 08:20.034 --> 08:21.933 align:start LIKE CHAOS, BUT FOR US, I MEAN, 08:21.936 --> 08:23.434 align:start THAT'S JUST WHAT WE LIVE IN. 08:23.437 --> 08:24.569 align:start YOU KNOW -- AND SOME 08:24.572 --> 08:26.537 align:start FIREFIGHTERS WILL HAVE A 08:26.540 --> 08:29.440 align:start DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF CHAOS 08:29.443 --> 08:29.741 align:start AND IT'S NOT THE SAME ACROSS THE 08:29.744 --> 08:32.076 align:start BOARD. 08:32.079 --> 08:36.080 align:start THERE WAS WORSE MOMENTS THAT 08:36.083 --> 08:37.482 align:start DAY, PRETTY CHAOTIC. 08:37.485 --> 08:39.350 align:start THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRAINED TO BE 08:39.353 --> 08:40.852 align:start IN, THAT'S WHY WE TRAIN SO HARD, 08:40.855 --> 08:43.021 align:start THAT'S WHY WE PRACTICE, THAT'S 08:43.024 --> 08:43.621 align:start WHY WE HAVE SUCH A HIGH LEVEL OF 08:43.624 --> 08:45.523 align:start PHYSICAL FITNESS. 08:45.526 --> 08:45.857 align:start WE'RE TRAINED TO BE IN THOSE 08:45.860 --> 08:47.458 align:start MOMENTS. 08:47.461 --> 08:48.960 align:start IT'S NOT ONLY OUR BODY WE'RE 08:48.963 --> 08:51.262 align:start TRAINING, MENTALLY WE'RE 08:51.265 --> 08:52.030 align:start PREPARING TO MAKE THE CORRECT 08:52.033 --> 08:52.363 align:start DECISIONS IN THE CORRECT AMOUNT 08:52.366 --> 08:59.837 align:start OF TIME. 08:59.840 --> 09:01.472 align:start SO -- GETTING BACK TO YOUR 09:01.475 --> 09:02.807 align:start QUESTION, I DIDN'T FEEL AS IF 09:02.810 --> 09:05.143 align:start THEY WERE IN DANGER UNTIL I 09:05.146 --> 09:06.911 align:start HEARD THEM -- MY SUPERINTENDENT 09:06.914 --> 09:07.278 align:start TALK ABOUT DEPLOYING THE FIRE 09:07.281 --> 09:08.780 align:start SHELTERS. 09:08.783 --> 09:09.681 align:start THAT'S WHEN I KNEW THEY WERE IN 09:09.684 --> 09:14.952 align:start DANGER. 09:14.955 --> 09:16.287 align:start UP UNTIL THEN, I SUSPECTED I'D 09:16.290 --> 09:16.954 align:start SEEN THEM COME ON THE ROAD, 09:16.957 --> 09:19.891 align:start FIVE, TEN MINUTES. 09:19.894 --> 09:20.391 align:start THAT WAS THE MINDFRAME THAT I 09:20.394 --> 09:21.592 align:start HAD AT THAT POINT. 09:21.595 --> 09:21.993 align:start WAS THERE A FIRE BURNING THROUGH 09:21.996 --> 09:22.260 align:start TOWN? 09:22.263 --> 09:23.828 align:start YES. 09:23.831 --> 09:24.962 align:start WAS THERE HELICOPTERS FLYING 09:24.965 --> 09:25.330 align:start OVER? 09:25.333 --> 09:28.499 align:start THERE WAS. 09:28.502 --> 09:30.034 align:start BUT THAT'S A LOT OF FIRES. 09:30.037 --> 09:30.501 align:start PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT OF 09:30.504 --> 09:31.402 align:start NEIGHBORHOODS. 09:31.405 --> 09:33.705 align:start OH, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING HERE, 09:33.708 --> 09:34.072 align:start SO WE PULL OUT. 09:34.075 --> 09:36.007 align:start REASSESS. 09:36.010 --> 09:38.309 align:start TRY ANOTHER PLAN. 09:38.312 --> 09:38.676 align:start THAT DOESN'T WORK, PULL OUT, 09:38.679 --> 09:39.677 align:start REASSESS. 09:39.680 --> 09:42.547 align:start YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE NATURE OF 09:42.550 --> 09:43.881 align:start THE JOB IS JUST CONTINUE TO TRY 09:43.884 --> 09:44.682 align:start UNTIL YOU CAN'T TRY ANY MORE, 09:44.685 --> 09:46.918 align:start UNTIL YOU WIN. 09:46.921 --> 09:51.989 align:start >> WHEN YOU HEARD THEY WERE 09:51.992 --> 09:53.157 align:start DEPLOYING FIRE SHELTERS WHAT 09:53.160 --> 09:55.593 align:start DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? 09:55.596 --> 09:56.027 align:start YOU'D BEEN TRAINED TO DEPLOY 09:56.030 --> 09:57.128 align:start THEM AS WELL. 09:57.131 --> 09:59.030 align:start >> IT'S YOUR LAST EFFORT TO 09:59.033 --> 09:59.297 align:start COMBATING THE FIRE OVERCOMING 09:59.300 --> 10:00.031 align:start YOU. 10:00.034 --> 10:03.768 align:start IT'S A PLACE YOU DON'T WANT TO 10:03.771 --> 10:04.802 align:start BE IN. 10:04.805 --> 10:08.373 align:start IT'S A MOMENT OBVIOUSLY NO ONE 10:08.376 --> 10:14.278 align:start WOULD EVER EMBRACE. 10:14.281 --> 10:15.113 align:start AND IT'S -- SOMETHING YOU HOPE 10:15.116 --> 10:19.450 align:start YOU TRAINED FOR AND YOU TOOK 10:19.453 --> 10:21.319 align:start SERIOUS. 10:21.322 --> 10:23.921 align:start WHEN THEY WERE FOUND, IT WASN'T 10:23.924 --> 10:24.255 align:start LIKE THERE WASN'T A FIRE STILL 10:24.258 --> 10:24.956 align:start RAGING. 10:24.959 --> 10:25.323 align:start >> CHRIS WAS YOUR ROOMMATE AT 10:25.326 --> 10:26.991 align:start THE TIME. 10:26.994 --> 10:28.559 align:start >> YEAH. 10:28.562 --> 10:30.328 align:start >> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE GOING HOME 10:30.331 --> 10:35.700 align:start AND HE'S NOT THERE? 10:35.703 --> 10:37.268 align:start >> OH, WOW. 10:37.271 --> 10:38.670 align:start I -- I DON'T EVEN THINK I WENT 10:38.673 --> 10:39.203 align:start HOME FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS, TO 10:39.206 --> 10:41.439 align:start BE HONEST. 10:41.442 --> 10:43.041 align:start I DON'T EVEN THINK I WAS THERE. 10:43.044 --> 10:43.675 align:start IT TOOK -- IT TOOK A LONG TIME 10:43.678 --> 10:45.810 align:start TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE 10:45.813 --> 10:46.310 align:start APARTMENT. 10:46.313 --> 10:50.181 align:start IT WAS EMOTIONAL. 10:50.184 --> 10:51.983 align:start IT WAS TOUGH. 10:51.986 --> 10:54.619 align:start NOT ONLY WAS THE PERSON WHO 10:54.622 --> 10:56.354 align:start SLEPT SIX FEET AWAY FROM ME 10:56.357 --> 10:58.189 align:start GONE, BUT EVERY OTHER PERSON 10:58.192 --> 10:59.991 align:start THROUGHOUT THE SUMMERS THAT I 10:59.994 --> 11:04.228 align:start SLEPT TWO FEET AWAY FROM WAS 11:04.231 --> 11:06.130 align:start GONE TOO. 11:06.133 --> 11:07.332 align:start >> MORE FROM BRENDAN IN A FEW 11:07.335 --> 11:09.534 align:start MOMENTS. 11:09.537 --> 11:10.635 align:start BUT NOW FOR THE "NEW YORK TIMES" 11:10.638 --> 11:11.769 align:start PHOENIX BUREAU CHIEF. 11:11.772 --> 11:13.905 align:start SHE ALSO WROTE A BOOK. 11:13.908 --> 11:15.139 align:start AS A JOURNALIST SHE SAYS THE 11:15.142 --> 11:17.742 align:start YARNELL HILL FIRE WAS A STORY 11:17.745 --> 11:20.044 align:start SHE COULDN'T LET GO OF. 11:20.047 --> 11:23.014 align:start >> AS I WAS WRITING STORIES 11:23.017 --> 11:25.283 align:start ABOUT THIS FIRE, I KEPT FINDING 11:25.286 --> 11:26.317 align:start MYSELF HAVING MORE QUESTIONS 11:26.320 --> 11:28.052 align:start THAN ANSWERS. 11:28.055 --> 11:30.722 align:start QUESTIONS AS SIMPLE AS, HOW DO 11:30.725 --> 11:31.856 align:start WILDFIRES BURN? 11:31.859 --> 11:34.025 align:start WHAT'S UP WITH WEATHER? 11:34.028 --> 11:35.927 align:start WHAT ARE MONSOON STORMS? 11:35.930 --> 11:38.029 align:start I HADN'T BEEN IN ARIZONA VERY 11:38.032 --> 11:39.664 align:start LONG SO I DIDN'T QUITE 11:39.667 --> 11:42.800 align:start UNDERSTAND EVEN HOW THE WEATHER 11:42.803 --> 11:45.203 align:start THIS TIME OF THE YEAR WORKED. 11:45.206 --> 11:47.372 align:start AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN 11:47.375 --> 11:50.241 align:start THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN -- A 11:50.244 --> 11:52.377 align:start SHORT LIFE SPAN TO BIG NEWS 11:52.380 --> 11:56.714 align:start STORIES WITH NEWSPAPERS, THERE 11:56.717 --> 11:57.048 align:start WAS LIMITED INTEREST FROM MY 11:57.051 --> 12:00.118 align:start EDITORS. 12:00.121 --> 12:00.852 align:start AND THAT CURIOSITY LINGERED. 12:00.855 --> 12:01.219 align:start MANY TIMES THAT CURIOSITY KIND 12:01.222 --> 12:03.354 align:start OF WANED. 12:03.357 --> 12:04.288 align:start YOU MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE, 12:04.291 --> 12:05.089 align:start YOU BECOME CURIOUS ABOUT 12:05.092 --> 12:06.557 align:start SOMETHING ELSE. 12:06.560 --> 12:08.026 align:start BUT I REMAINED CURIOUS ABOUT 12:08.029 --> 12:09.160 align:start THIS STORY, ABOUT THE LIVES OF 12:09.163 --> 12:11.029 align:start THESE MEN. 12:11.032 --> 12:13.564 align:start SO, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT THE 12:13.567 --> 12:15.166 align:start BEST WAY TO SOLVE -- TO SATISFY 12:15.169 --> 12:16.901 align:start MY CURIOSITY WOULD BE TO WRITE A 12:16.904 --> 12:18.236 align:start BOOK. 12:18.239 --> 12:19.137 align:start >> WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS THE 12:19.140 --> 12:21.806 align:start MOST FASCINATING THING YOU 12:21.809 --> 12:24.075 align:start LEARNED DURING THIS PROCESS? 12:24.078 --> 12:26.177 align:start >> IT WAS REALLY A REDEFINITION 12:26.180 --> 12:27.812 align:start OF THE WORD GUILT OR BLAME. 12:27.815 --> 12:29.547 align:start THERE WAS A LOT OF FOCUS ON THAT 12:29.550 --> 12:30.948 align:start WHEN THE FIRE HAPPENED. 12:30.951 --> 12:32.283 align:start WHO MADE THE ORDER -- WHO GAVE 12:32.286 --> 12:34.085 align:start THE ORDER FOR THIS CREW TO GO 12:34.088 --> 12:34.786 align:start DOWN THE MOUNTAIN? 12:34.789 --> 12:36.654 align:start ESSENTIALLY, WHO WAS TO BLAME 12:36.657 --> 12:38.690 align:start FOR THEIR DEATHS? 12:38.693 --> 12:41.192 align:start AND BLAME HAS A VERY SHIFTY 12:41.195 --> 12:42.327 align:start MEANING IN THIS STORY BECAUSE IT 12:42.330 --> 12:43.027 align:start DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN 12:43.030 --> 12:43.861 align:start SOMETHING BAD. 12:43.864 --> 12:46.597 align:start YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHAT 12:46.600 --> 12:48.599 align:start HAPPENED WAS HORRIBLE. 12:48.602 --> 12:50.635 align:start BUT IT MEANS MAKING DECISIONS 12:50.638 --> 12:51.769 align:start THAT CARRY A LOT OF RISK, BUT 12:51.772 --> 12:54.138 align:start THEY WERE NOT NECESSARILY MADE 12:54.141 --> 12:55.973 align:start WITH THE INTENT OF CAUSING HARM. 12:55.976 --> 12:57.542 align:start AND THEN ONCE I ACCEPTED THAT, 12:57.545 --> 12:59.243 align:start IT WAS ALMOST AS IF I WAS 12:59.246 --> 13:01.646 align:start LIBERATED TO REALLY PURSUE THIS 13:01.649 --> 13:03.614 align:start STORY AS I THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE 13:03.617 --> 13:04.382 align:start PURSUED, WHICH WAS MORE THE 13:04.385 --> 13:07.085 align:start HUMAN SIDE OF THIS FIRE. 13:07.088 --> 13:07.485 align:start >> IN ALL YOUR RESEARCH, HOW DID 13:07.488 --> 13:08.920 align:start THIS HAPPEN? 13:08.923 --> 13:09.687 align:start WHAT DECISION WAS MADE, WHAT LED 13:09.690 --> 13:12.523 align:start TO THIS? 13:12.526 --> 13:15.293 align:start >> IT'S NOT A SIMPLE ANSWER. 13:15.296 --> 13:17.462 align:start BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ONE THEN 13:17.465 --> 13:19.397 align:start OR ONE DECISION THAT I CAN POINT 13:19.400 --> 13:21.499 align:start TO DO SAY, THIS IS WHAT CAUSED 13:21.502 --> 13:22.467 align:start THE DEATHS OF THESE 19 MEN. 13:22.470 --> 13:26.270 align:start IT WAS DECISION AFTER DECISION 13:26.273 --> 13:27.372 align:start THAT WAS MADE OR NOT MADE THAT 13:27.375 --> 13:30.008 align:start ULTIMATELY LED TO THIS CREW 13:30.011 --> 13:31.876 align:start BEING ALONE ON A MOUNTAIN AND 13:31.879 --> 13:33.678 align:start HAVING TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE 13:33.681 --> 13:38.483 align:start DECISION ALL BY ITSELF. 13:38.486 --> 13:39.117 align:start AND HAVING NO ONE TO BE THERE 13:39.120 --> 13:40.284 align:start BALANCED, TO CHECK. 13:40.287 --> 13:40.985 align:start NO ONE TO SAY, IS THIS REALLY 13:40.988 --> 13:43.654 align:start THE BEST THING TO DO AT THIS 13:43.657 --> 13:45.323 align:start MOMENT? 13:45.326 --> 13:45.823 align:start SO THERE'S NO ONE THING THAT YOU 13:45.826 --> 13:46.724 align:start CAN BLAME. 13:46.727 --> 13:48.626 align:start IT'S SYSTEMIC. 13:48.629 --> 13:49.560 align:start THERE'S SYSTEMIC FLAWS, THERE'S 13:49.563 --> 13:51.462 align:start HUMAN FACTORS. 13:51.465 --> 13:52.196 align:start A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT 13:52.199 --> 13:54.065 align:start LED TO WHAT HAPPENED. 13:54.068 --> 13:54.599 align:start >> YOU REACHED OUT TO EACH ONE 13:54.602 --> 13:56.934 align:start OF THE 19 FAMILIES? 13:56.937 --> 14:00.605 align:start >> I DID. 14:00.608 --> 14:01.806 align:start I REALLY WANTED TO MEET THESE 14:01.809 --> 14:03.975 align:start GUYS. 14:03.978 --> 14:07.045 align:start I WROTE A FRONT-PAGE PROFILE OF 14:07.048 --> 14:07.979 align:start THE CREW AND THE MAN THAT RAN 14:07.982 --> 14:09.847 align:start THE -- THE FATALITIES HAPPENED 14:09.850 --> 14:11.716 align:start ON JUNE 30th, 2013. 14:11.719 --> 14:12.884 align:start THAT STORY RAN ON THE FRONT PAGE 14:12.887 --> 14:13.184 align:start OF THE NEW YORK TIMES ON JULY 14:13.187 --> 14:16.087 align:start 2nd. 14:16.090 --> 14:17.422 align:start AND I WROTE IT ON JULY 1st AS I 14:17.425 --> 14:18.523 align:start WAS REPORTING. 14:18.526 --> 14:20.625 align:start AND I REMEMBERED THAT I ONLY 14:20.628 --> 14:20.892 align:start KNEW THE NAMES OF A FEW OF THE 14:20.895 --> 14:23.828 align:start MEN. 14:23.831 --> 14:28.933 align:start AND IT REALLY BOTHERED ME THAT I 14:28.936 --> 14:31.169 align:start WAS WRITING SO THOR THOR 14:31.172 --> 14:32.403 align:start DATEIVELY ABOUT A GROUP OF MEN I 14:32.406 --> 14:34.672 align:start KNEW VERY LITTLE ABOUT. 14:34.675 --> 14:35.773 align:start ENOUGH FOR A NEWS STORY BUT NOT 14:35.776 --> 14:37.542 align:start ENOUGH FOR AN UNDERSTANDING OF 14:37.545 --> 14:38.876 align:start THEM AS PEOPLE. 14:38.879 --> 14:40.511 align:start AND OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T SIT DOWN 14:40.514 --> 14:41.813 align:start AND TALK TO THEM. 14:41.816 --> 14:43.114 align:start AND THE BEST WAY TO MEET THEM 14:43.117 --> 14:46.651 align:start WAS TO MEET THEIR FAMILIES. 14:46.654 --> 14:49.120 align:start AND I MADE A POINT IN MEETING 14:49.123 --> 14:50.855 align:start EVERY ONE OF THEM. 14:50.858 --> 14:53.291 align:start >> SHE SAYS THE 19 MEN 14:53.294 --> 14:54.859 align:start REPRESENTED THE EPITOME OF 14:54.862 --> 14:55.727 align:start TEAMWORK AND BRAVERY BECAUSE 14:55.730 --> 14:58.196 align:start THEY HAD THE COURAGE TO STAY 14:58.199 --> 15:00.765 align:start TOGETHER UNTIL THE VERY END. 15:00.768 --> 15:03.267 align:start >> YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR A LOT 15:03.270 --> 15:06.204 align:start OF PEOPLE TO THINK OF A BOOK 15:06.207 --> 15:08.773 align:start ABOUT A FIRE WHERE 19 PEOPLE 15:08.776 --> 15:10.241 align:start DIRKSD A BOOK CALLED "THE FIRE 15:10.244 --> 15:10.942 align:start LINE," AND NOT BE CAUGHT UP ON 15:10.945 --> 15:13.544 align:start THE IDEA THAT THIS IS A FIRE 15:13.547 --> 15:16.114 align:start BOOK. 15:16.117 --> 15:19.117 align:start I'D LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS A 15:19.120 --> 15:21.519 align:start UNIVERSAL STORY, A STORY THAT IS 15:21.522 --> 15:22.787 align:start ABOUT 19 MEN WHO LOVED ONE 15:22.790 --> 15:24.489 align:start ANOTHER, LOVED WHAT THEY DID, 15:24.492 --> 15:25.890 align:start AND CHOSE TO STAY TOGETHER UNTIL 15:25.893 --> 15:27.959 align:start THE END. 15:27.962 --> 15:29.127 align:start I OPEN MY BOOK WITH A PICTURE 15:29.130 --> 15:30.528 align:start FROM ONE OF THE INVESTIGATIVE 15:30.531 --> 15:32.497 align:start REPORTS THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION, 15:32.500 --> 15:33.665 align:start THE POSITIONING OF THE BODIES 15:33.668 --> 15:35.733 align:start WHEN THEY WERE FOUND. 15:35.736 --> 15:37.035 align:start AND THESE WERE -- THEY WERE 15:37.038 --> 15:38.870 align:start VERY, VERY CLOSE. 15:38.873 --> 15:39.971 align:start AND THAT WAS THE PICTURE THAT 15:39.974 --> 15:40.805 align:start SHOWED ME THAT THIS WAS A 15:40.808 --> 15:43.241 align:start DIFFERENT STORY. 15:43.244 --> 15:44.142 align:start THIS WAS NOT THE STORY ABOUT A 15:44.145 --> 15:46.177 align:start DECISION, A BAD DECISION, MADE 15:46.180 --> 15:48.579 align:start BY WHOEVER. 15:48.582 --> 15:51.249 align:start IT WAS A STORY ABOUT THE CULTURE 15:51.252 --> 15:54.719 align:start OF LOYALTY THAT THEY FOSTERED, 15:54.722 --> 15:57.355 align:start THAT WHEN IT CAME TIME TO MAKE 15:57.358 --> 15:59.123 align:start A -- AN ULTIMATE DECISION, DO WE 15:59.126 --> 16:01.259 align:start STAY TOGETHER AND TRY TO SURVIVE 16:01.262 --> 16:03.761 align:start THIS WAVE OF FIRE THAT'S COMING 16:03.764 --> 16:04.662 align:start OUR WAY, OR DO WE EACH TRY TO 16:04.665 --> 16:05.863 align:start RUN FOR OUR LIVES? 16:05.866 --> 16:07.365 align:start THEY DIDN'T TAKE A VOTE. 16:07.368 --> 16:08.566 align:start THEY STAYED TOGETHER. 16:08.569 --> 16:10.835 align:start THE LAST RADIO COMMUNICATION 16:10.838 --> 16:12.270 align:start THAT YOU HEAR, YOU HEAR THIS 16:12.273 --> 16:14.272 align:start BUZZING IN THE BACKGROUND. 16:14.275 --> 16:17.942 align:start THEY WERE STILL WORKING TOGETHER 16:17.945 --> 16:18.876 align:start TRYING TO SAVE THEMSELVES AS A 16:18.879 --> 16:21.079 align:start UNIT. 16:21.082 --> 16:23.981 align:start AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAD EVER 16:23.984 --> 16:25.983 align:start COME ACROSS PEOPLE, OTHER THAN 16:25.986 --> 16:27.585 align:start SOLDIERS, WHO WOULD BE WILLING 16:27.588 --> 16:29.520 align:start TO RISK THEIR LIVES -- OR POLICE 16:29.523 --> 16:30.154 align:start OFFICERS DO THAT TOO -- RISK 16:30.157 --> 16:32.724 align:start THEIR LIVES TO SAVE THEIR 16:32.727 --> 16:34.726 align:start PARTNER. 16:34.729 --> 16:36.728 align:start YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT WAS -- 16:36.731 --> 16:37.462 align:start THERE WAS SUCH A POWERFUL 16:37.465 --> 16:39.864 align:start MESSAGE. 16:39.867 --> 16:40.531 align:start AND MY BOOK IS BUILT EXACTLY TO 16:40.534 --> 16:43.668 align:start EXPLAIN THAT. 16:43.671 --> 16:44.268 align:start WHAT IS IT THAT MADE THESE GUYS 16:44.271 --> 16:45.636 align:start STAY TOGETHER? 16:45.639 --> 16:47.071 align:start FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT 16:47.074 --> 16:49.774 align:start YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND WHO 16:49.777 --> 16:51.109 align:start THEY WERE, WHAT THE CREW WAS 16:51.112 --> 16:52.477 align:start ABOUT, WHAT THE JOB WAS ABOUT. 16:52.480 --> 16:54.579 align:start ALL OF IT DEPENDED ON THE IDEA 16:54.582 --> 16:56.547 align:start OF UNITY AND TEAMWORK. 16:56.550 --> 17:00.118 align:start AND SO, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO SAY 17:00.121 --> 17:01.486 align:start THAT IT'S A BOOK ABOUT PEOPLE 17:01.489 --> 17:02.787 align:start THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE FIRE AS A 17:02.790 --> 17:03.855 align:start SETTING, IT'S NOT A FIRE BOOK. 17:03.858 --> 17:04.389 align:start >> THERE WERE LAWSUITS AND 17:04.392 --> 17:05.990 align:start LITIGATION INVOLVED. 17:05.993 --> 17:08.860 align:start WHERE ARE WE NOW WITH THAT? 17:08.863 --> 17:11.763 align:start IS THAT OVER? 17:11.766 --> 17:12.096 align:start >> IT'S A MUCH LESS CONTENTIOUS 17:12.099 --> 17:14.132 align:start PROCESS. 17:14.135 --> 17:15.900 align:start THE FIRES OF THE LAWSUITS -- THE 17:15.903 --> 17:19.804 align:start LAWSUITS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE 17:19.807 --> 17:21.506 align:start 19 MEMBERS WHO DIED ON JUNE 17:21.509 --> 17:22.774 align:start 30th, ONLY SIX WERE FULL-TIME 17:22.777 --> 17:23.141 align:start EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF 17:23.144 --> 17:27.145 align:start PRESCOTT. 17:27.148 --> 17:29.280 align:start AND WHAT THAT MEANT WAS THAT IN 17:29.283 --> 17:31.949 align:start LIFE, THE 14 SEASONAL EMPLOYEES 17:31.952 --> 17:33.117 align:start DID NOT HAVE PAID VACATION, PAID 17:33.120 --> 17:34.585 align:start HOLIDAYS, PAID SICK DAYS. 17:34.588 --> 17:36.621 align:start AND IN DEATH, THEY DIDN'T 17:36.624 --> 17:38.790 align:start QUALIFY FOR THE BENEFITS THAT 17:38.793 --> 17:40.291 align:start THE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES DID. 17:40.294 --> 17:42.760 align:start THE PENSIONS THEY RECEIVED. 17:42.763 --> 17:45.697 align:start THEY WERE PART OF THE ARIZONA 17:45.700 --> 17:47.031 align:start STATE PENSION SYSTEM, THEY WERE 17:47.034 --> 17:47.999 align:start PART OF A STRUCTURAL FIRE 17:48.002 --> 17:48.633 align:start DEPARTMENT, THEY WERE UNION 17:48.636 --> 17:49.934 align:start MEMBERS, SO FORTH. 17:49.937 --> 17:52.603 align:start SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE THOSE TYPES 17:52.606 --> 17:55.239 align:start OF BENEFITS, THESE 14 FAMILIES. 17:55.242 --> 17:58.276 align:start OF THESE 14 FAMILIES, MANY OF 17:58.279 --> 17:58.710 align:start THEM WERE WOMEN WHO HAD CHILDREN 17:58.713 --> 18:00.144 align:start TO RAISE. 18:00.147 --> 18:02.013 align:start THIS IS THE JOB THAT TAKES THE 18:02.016 --> 18:03.514 align:start MAN AWAY FOR LONG PERIODS IN THE 18:03.517 --> 18:06.050 align:start SUMMER SO IT WAS HARD FOR SOME 18:06.053 --> 18:06.718 align:start OF THEM TO EVEN KEEP FULL-TIME 18:06.721 --> 18:07.885 align:start EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE THEY HAD 18:07.888 --> 18:10.355 align:start THEIR KIDS AT HOME, THEY HAD TO 18:10.358 --> 18:12.990 align:start TAKE CARE OF THE HOUSE WHILE 18:12.993 --> 18:15.126 align:start THEIR HUSBANDS WERE NOT THERE. 18:15.129 --> 18:15.526 align:start SOME FAMILIES HAVE STARTED 18:15.529 --> 18:17.562 align:start FOUNDATIONS. 18:17.565 --> 18:18.696 align:start OTHER FAMILIES HAVE SORT OF 18:18.699 --> 18:19.931 align:start RETREATED AND TRY TO LIVE THEIR 18:19.934 --> 18:21.265 align:start LIVES AS MUCH AS THEY CAN WITH 18:21.268 --> 18:23.001 align:start AS MUCH NORMALLY AS THEY CAN. 18:23.004 --> 18:23.334 align:start ALWAYS HAVING A HOLE IN THEIR 18:23.337 --> 18:25.403 align:start HEARTS. 18:25.406 --> 18:29.273 align:start AND OTHERS HAVE MET OTHER 18:29.276 --> 18:29.941 align:start PEOPLE, SOME OF THE WIDOWS HAVE 18:29.944 --> 18:34.045 align:start REMARRIED OR HAVE PARTNERS 18:34.048 --> 18:38.116 align:start LIVING WITH THEM. 18:38.119 --> 18:41.219 align:start AT LEAST TWO OF THEM HAVE HAD 18:41.222 --> 18:41.652 align:start CHILDREN FROM THESE 18:41.655 --> 18:44.455 align:start RELATIONSHIPS. 18:44.458 --> 18:44.989 align:start AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE 18:44.992 --> 18:46.824 align:start CARRYING ON. 18:46.827 --> 18:48.660 align:start WHICH DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY 18:48.663 --> 18:49.594 align:start FORGOT THE PEOPLE WHO DIED, IT 18:49.597 --> 18:52.463 align:start JUST MEANS THAT THEY STILL HAVE 18:52.466 --> 18:53.698 align:start A LOT OF LIFE AHEAD OF THEM AND 18:53.701 --> 18:55.066 align:start THEY NEED TO PLAN FOR THAT. 18:55.069 --> 18:57.735 align:start >> THREE YEARS AFTER THE FIRE, 18:57.738 --> 18:58.703 align:start HOW ARE YOU DESCRIBING THE BEGAN 18:58.706 --> 19:00.038 align:start NET MOUNTAIN HOT SHOT CREW? 19:00.041 --> 19:00.371 align:start >> THEY REALLY APPRECIATED 19:00.374 --> 19:02.707 align:start NATURE. 19:02.710 --> 19:03.875 align:start THEY LOVED THE LAND THAT THEY 19:03.878 --> 19:05.543 align:start WORKED ON. 19:05.546 --> 19:06.711 align:start THEY LOVED ONE ANOTHER. 19:06.714 --> 19:07.979 align:start THEY LOVED THEIR FAMILIES. 19:07.982 --> 19:09.414 align:start THEY LOVED THE JOB THEY DID. 19:09.417 --> 19:10.214 align:start AND THOSE THINGS ARE SO RARE 19:10.217 --> 19:13.651 align:start THESE DAYS. 19:13.654 --> 19:15.019 align:start PEOPLE WHO DO EVERYTHING THEY DO 19:15.022 --> 19:17.655 align:start WITH PASSION. 19:17.658 --> 19:18.890 align:start 100% IN. 19:18.893 --> 19:21.826 align:start AND -- MY OPINION OF THEM HAS 19:21.829 --> 19:24.095 align:start NEVER CHANGED. 19:24.098 --> 19:25.296 align:start YOU KNOW, I GOT TO LEARN ABOUT A 19:25.299 --> 19:27.165 align:start LOT ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL LIVES. 19:27.168 --> 19:29.033 align:start I GOT TO BERN ABOUT THE WAY SOME 19:29.036 --> 19:29.567 align:start OF THEM STUMBLED ALONG THEIR 19:29.570 --> 19:31.235 align:start PERSONAL LIVES. 19:31.238 --> 19:32.937 align:start I GOT TO LEARN ABOUT HOW THEY 19:32.940 --> 19:34.605 align:start PICKED THEMSELVES UP AND REBUILT 19:34.608 --> 19:35.506 align:start THEIR LIVES. 19:35.509 --> 19:38.009 align:start AND THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT MY 19:38.012 --> 19:41.312 align:start RESPECT. 19:41.315 --> 19:43.448 align:start YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A 19:43.451 --> 19:45.216 align:start SCIENTIST OR SOMEONE WHO 19:45.219 --> 19:45.550 align:start DISCOVERS THE CURE TO SOME BIG 19:45.553 --> 19:48.953 align:start DISEASE. 19:48.956 --> 19:50.254 align:start THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE 19:50.257 --> 19:50.588 align:start LIKE THE WORLDWIDE EFFECT ON 19:50.591 --> 19:51.789 align:start THINGS. 19:51.792 --> 19:53.224 align:start YOU CAN BE A VERY SPECIAL 19:53.227 --> 19:55.059 align:start INDIVIDUAL IN YOUR OWN WORLD. 19:55.062 --> 19:56.794 align:start AND THOSE GUYS WERE SPECIAL IN 19:56.797 --> 19:58.129 align:start THEIR OWN WAY TO THE PEOPLE THEY 19:58.132 --> 19:59.397 align:start CARED ABOUT AND THE WORLD THEY 19:59.400 --> 20:00.765 align:start LIVED IN. 20:00.768 --> 20:03.434 align:start AND FOR THAT I'M GRATEFUL 20:03.437 --> 20:04.569 align:start BECAUSE THEY MADE ME UNDERSTAND 20:04.572 --> 20:05.703 align:start THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE 20:05.706 --> 20:07.138 align:start ORDINARY PEOPLE SOMETIMES. 20:07.141 --> 20:07.939 align:start THE REGULAR PEOPLE WE SEE ON THE 20:07.942 --> 20:11.876 align:start STREETS THAT YOU FIND THE MOST 20:11.879 --> 20:13.277 align:start AMAZING OF STORIES. 20:13.280 --> 20:14.746 align:start >> BRENDAN SAYS THE LAST THREE 20:14.749 --> 20:15.146 align:start YEARS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY 20:15.149 --> 20:16.781 align:start CHALLENGING. 20:16.784 --> 20:18.082 align:start AND NOT A DAY GOES BY THAT HE 20:18.085 --> 20:21.052 align:start DOESN'T REFLECT ON HIS TIME WITH 20:21.055 --> 20:23.121 align:start HIS LOST BROTHERS. 20:23.124 --> 20:24.322 align:start TELL ME, WHAT HAVE THE LAST FEW 20:24.325 --> 20:25.256 align:start YEARS BEEN LIKE FOR YOU? 20:25.259 --> 20:28.993 align:start HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THEM? 20:28.996 --> 20:31.863 align:start >> LIVING HELL. 20:31.866 --> 20:34.632 align:start THAT WAS THE BEGINNING. 20:34.635 --> 20:36.000 align:start THEN IT JUST KIND OF -- RECENTLY 20:36.003 --> 20:37.502 align:start I WOULD SAY, RIGHT AROUND THE 20:37.505 --> 20:38.703 align:start TIME OF STARTING TO WRITE THIS 20:38.706 --> 20:41.806 align:start BOOK, IT'S JUST BEEN GRADUALLY 20:41.809 --> 20:45.343 align:start GETTING BETTER AND BETTER. 20:45.346 --> 20:47.745 align:start GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE 20:47.748 --> 20:48.880 align:start BOOK AND COUNSELING AT THE SAME 20:48.883 --> 20:49.914 align:start TIME WAS PROBABLY THE BEST THING 20:49.917 --> 20:51.683 align:start I COULD HAVE DONE. 20:51.686 --> 20:53.418 align:start BECAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN ONE TO 20:53.421 --> 20:54.118 align:start WRITE IN A DIARY. 20:54.121 --> 20:58.856 align:start NEVER BEEN ONE TO TALK ABOUT 20:58.859 --> 21:00.992 align:start SOMETHING. 21:00.995 --> 21:05.196 align:start AND SO WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO WAS, 21:05.199 --> 21:06.931 align:start I NEEDED TO TELL MY BROTHERS' 21:06.934 --> 21:08.299 align:start STORY AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD 21:08.302 --> 21:10.535 align:start TELL THAT WAS IF I OPENED UP. 21:10.538 --> 21:11.269 align:start IT WASN'T ABOUT ME OPENING UP, 21:11.272 --> 21:13.538 align:start IT WAS ABOUT ME OPENING UP FOR 21:13.541 --> 21:17.775 align:start THEM. 21:17.778 --> 21:18.476 align:start SO PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO READ 21:18.479 --> 21:20.578 align:start THIS BOOK. 21:20.581 --> 21:23.581 align:start AND THAT'S -- I'M JUST LITERALLY 21:23.584 --> 21:24.782 align:start REALIZING THIS AS WE SIT HERE. 21:24.785 --> 21:27.085 align:start THAT IF IT PROBABLY WASN'T FOR 21:27.088 --> 21:28.119 align:start THE BOOK, I PROBABLY NEVER WOULD 21:28.122 --> 21:29.754 align:start HAVE OPENED AND UP CONTINUED 21:29.757 --> 21:31.155 align:start WITH COUNSELING. 21:31.158 --> 21:32.690 align:start I PROBABLY WOULD NEVER HAVE DUG 21:32.693 --> 21:33.691 align:start AS DEEP AS I DID TO TRY AND PUT 21:33.694 --> 21:35.093 align:start EVERYTHING OUT THERE. 21:35.096 --> 21:35.393 align:start >> HOW HAVE YOU MANAGED SINCE 21:35.396 --> 21:37.061 align:start THEN? 21:37.064 --> 21:39.163 align:start YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT HOW YOU 21:39.166 --> 21:39.464 align:start WERE A DRUG USER, YOU WERE A 21:39.467 --> 21:41.733 align:start FELON. 21:41.736 --> 21:44.802 align:start THE HOT SHOTS SAVED YOUR LIFE. 21:44.805 --> 21:45.603 align:start AND THEN YOU GET BACK INTO THIS 21:45.606 --> 21:46.504 align:start DARK PLACE AGAIN. 21:46.507 --> 21:46.804 align:start HOW DID YOU COME BACK UP FROM 21:46.807 --> 21:52.210 align:start THAT? 21:52.213 --> 21:55.880 align:start >> I THINK -- I CAN ADMIT THAT 21:55.883 --> 21:58.950 align:start IT'S STILL A PROCESS TODAY. 21:58.953 --> 22:01.019 align:start THAT THERE'S NO FINISH LINE. 22:01.022 --> 22:03.654 align:start I THINK IT'S JUST A LIFELONG 22:03.657 --> 22:06.991 align:start MARATHON. 22:06.994 --> 22:09.627 align:start BUT KNOWING WHAT MY BROTHERS 22:09.630 --> 22:11.362 align:start TAUGHT ME AND FIGHTING SO HARD, 22:11.365 --> 22:12.330 align:start I KNEW THERE WAS NO WAY I'D GO 22:12.333 --> 22:14.565 align:start BACK TO DRUGS. 22:14.568 --> 22:19.570 align:start I JUST KNEW THERE'S NO WAY THAT 22:19.573 --> 22:21.172 align:start I WANTED TO BE A PART OF THAT. 22:21.175 --> 22:22.507 align:start THAT THAT'S THE LEGACY THAT I 22:22.510 --> 22:24.375 align:start WANTED TO LEAVE BEHIND, THE 22:24.378 --> 22:25.376 align:start SURVIVOR OVERDOSED ON HEROIN -- 22:25.379 --> 22:26.110 align:start THAT WASN'T SOMETHING -- I 22:26.113 --> 22:27.979 align:start DIDN'T WANT MY PARENTS TO HAVE 22:27.982 --> 22:29.280 align:start TO DEAL WITH, MY DAUGHTER, MY 22:29.283 --> 22:32.517 align:start FAMILY, EVEN THE OTHER FAMILIES. 22:32.520 --> 22:34.218 align:start FOR ME TO SURVIVE AND THEN TO GO 22:34.221 --> 22:36.954 align:start DOWN THAT DESTRUCTIVE PATH WOULD 22:36.957 --> 22:39.357 align:start HAVE BEEN A SLAP IN THE FACE. 22:39.360 --> 22:40.858 align:start AND I CAN ADMIT THIS TOO, 22:40.861 --> 22:41.826 align:start THERE'S BEEN SOME THINGS 22:41.829 --> 22:43.194 align:start RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST THREE 22:43.197 --> 22:45.229 align:start YEARS THAT I'VE DONE THAT I'M 22:45.232 --> 22:48.533 align:start NOT PROUD OF. 22:48.536 --> 22:50.134 align:start YOU KNOW, I'VE FILLED VOIDS WITH 22:50.137 --> 22:51.769 align:start THINGS THAT AREN'T GOING TO -- 22:51.772 --> 22:52.136 align:start THAT WEREN'T GOING TO HELP ME 22:52.139 --> 22:52.870 align:start PROGRESS. 22:52.873 --> 22:55.473 align:start AND I CAN ADMIT THAT. 22:55.476 --> 22:57.008 align:start AND NOW GOING THROUGH COUNSELING 22:57.011 --> 22:58.443 align:start I CAN LOOK BACK AND SAY, THOSE 22:58.446 --> 22:59.677 align:start ARE NOT THE THINGS I WANT TO 22:59.680 --> 23:01.479 align:start FILL MY HEART WITH, THESE ARE 23:01.482 --> 23:02.880 align:start THE THINGS I WANT TO FILL MY 23:02.883 --> 23:05.350 align:start HEART WITH, THESE ARE THE THINGS 23:05.353 --> 23:06.017 align:start THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE ME A 23:06.020 --> 23:06.351 align:start BETTER PERSON AND A BETTER 23:06.354 --> 23:08.786 align:start FATHER. 23:08.789 --> 23:10.455 align:start IT MAY NOT BE FIREFIGHTING BUT 23:10.458 --> 23:12.490 align:start THERE'S OTHER WAYS I CAN FEEL 23:12.493 --> 23:13.591 align:start THAT FULFILLMENT OF GIVING BACK. 23:13.594 --> 23:16.194 align:start >> YOU ASKED YOURSELF A LOT 23:16.197 --> 23:16.461 align:start THEN, WHY DID I SURVIVE, WHY NOT 23:16.464 --> 23:18.196 align:start ME? 23:18.199 --> 23:19.697 align:start WHAT HAVE YOU DECIDED WAS THE 23:19.700 --> 23:22.567 align:start ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS? 23:22.570 --> 23:24.168 align:start >> I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. 23:24.171 --> 23:25.603 align:start I DO HAVE AN ANSWER -- GOD. 23:25.606 --> 23:27.138 align:start IT'S GOD. 23:27.141 --> 23:30.241 align:start THAT'S MY ANSWER. 23:30.244 --> 23:35.313 align:start WHY I SURVIVED -- A DEFINITION 23:35.316 --> 23:36.547 align:start OR MORE INFORMATION -- I CAN'T 23:36.550 --> 23:38.883 align:start EVEN FATHOM OR TRY TO BEGIN TO 23:38.886 --> 23:40.585 align:start TRY AND EXPLAIN THAT. 23:40.588 --> 23:42.320 align:start I JUST KNOW THAT I'M HERE TODAY 23:42.323 --> 23:43.654 align:start AND THAT I HAVE A PURPOSE AND 23:43.657 --> 23:45.323 align:start THAT I NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY 23:45.326 --> 23:46.657 align:start AND LIVE OUT THAT PURPOSE. 23:46.660 --> 23:48.159 align:start >> YOU'RE TALKING WITH PEOPLE 23:48.162 --> 23:49.594 align:start ABOUT THIS EXPERIENCE. 23:49.597 --> 23:52.230 align:start WHAT DO YOU WANT EVERYONE ELSE 23:52.233 --> 23:54.499 align:start TO GAIN FROM THIS? 23:54.502 --> 23:57.502 align:start >> I THINK WHAT I WANT PEOPLE TO 23:57.505 --> 23:59.237 align:start GAIN FROM WHEN I SPEAK IS JUST 23:59.240 --> 23:59.937 align:start THE ABILITY TO ACCEPT THE FACT 23:59.940 --> 24:02.573 align:start THAT WE'RE GOING TO STRUGGLE 24:02.576 --> 24:03.408 align:start THROUGH THINGS. 24:03.411 --> 24:06.277 align:start AND THAT IT'S OKAY TO REACH OUT 24:06.280 --> 24:08.646 align:start FOR HELP. 24:08.649 --> 24:09.113 align:start WE LOSE SO MANY VETERANS TO 24:09.116 --> 24:12.784 align:start SUICIDE. 24:12.787 --> 24:16.387 align:start WE LOSE SO MANY POLICE UNITS, 24:16.390 --> 24:17.855 align:start FIRE PERSONNEL, TO THIS EPIDEMIC 24:17.858 --> 24:21.492 align:start OF THEM NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE 24:21.495 --> 24:23.161 align:start WITH ASKING FOR HELP. 24:23.164 --> 24:26.597 align:start AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST STEP. 24:26.600 --> 24:29.667 align:start AND I THINK IT'S ALMOST ONE OF 24:29.670 --> 24:30.535 align:start THE EASIEST ONES. 24:30.538 --> 24:33.404 align:start IS JUST TO ASK FOR HELP AND THE 24:33.407 --> 24:34.939 align:start REST WILL COME. 24:34.942 --> 24:35.273 align:start AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO SPEAK 24:35.276 --> 24:35.973 align:start ABOUT. 24:35.976 --> 24:38.743 align:start THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO TELL 24:38.746 --> 24:39.110 align:start PEOPLE. 24:39.113 --> 24:43.381 align:start AND SHARE. 24:43.384 --> 24:46.551 align:start BECAUSE -- THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH 24:46.554 --> 24:47.452 align:start I CAN SAY WITHOUT GOING, NO. 24:47.455 --> 24:48.886 align:start THERE'S ONLY SO MANY ANSWERS 24:48.889 --> 24:49.520 align:start THAT I DON'T HAVE AND A LOT OF 24:49.523 --> 24:52.156 align:start US DON'T HAVE. 24:52.159 --> 24:53.524 align:start BUT WHAT I DO KNOW WHAT IS I'VE 24:53.527 --> 24:54.325 align:start BEEN THROUGH AND WHAT'S HELPED 24:54.328 --> 24:56.327 align:start ME GET HERE TODAY. 24:56.330 --> 24:57.996 align:start >> WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO WRITE 24:57.999 --> 24:58.896 align:start "MY LOST BROTHERS"? 24:58.899 --> 25:00.231 align:start YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T SOMEBODY 25:00.234 --> 25:00.965 align:start WHO WROTE IN A DIARY OR THOUGHT 25:00.968 --> 25:02.166 align:start ABOUT THIS SORT OF THING. 25:02.169 --> 25:08.139 align:start WHY DID YOU DO IT? 25:08.142 --> 25:08.806 align:start >> I WROTE IT -- BECAUSE IT'S AN 25:08.809 --> 25:12.110 align:start OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR 25:12.113 --> 25:14.779 align:start LEGACY. 25:14.782 --> 25:16.347 align:start AND TALKING WITH MY MOM, SHE HAD 25:16.350 --> 25:19.984 align:start SEEN WHAT HAD BEEN PORTRAYED TO 25:19.987 --> 25:20.351 align:start THE MEDIA AND WHAT HAD KIND OF 25:20.354 --> 25:21.986 align:start UNFOLDED. 25:21.989 --> 25:24.789 align:start AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY EVER 25:24.792 --> 25:29.761 align:start GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY 25:29.764 --> 25:32.397 align:start LEARN HOW THEY SAVED MY LIFE. 25:32.400 --> 25:35.199 align:start I DON'T THINK THAT WAS DOVE INTO 25:35.202 --> 25:35.566 align:start ENOUGH FOR ME TO BE SATISFIED, 25:35.569 --> 25:36.968 align:start YOU KNOW. 25:36.971 --> 25:38.503 align:start FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK 25:38.506 --> 25:41.706 align:start AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I FEEL 25:41.709 --> 25:45.777 align:start LIKE PEOPLE KNOW. 25:45.780 --> 25:46.511 align:start HOW DEEP I WAS, IN SUCH A DARK 25:46.514 --> 25:47.745 align:start PLACE, AND WHERE THEY PULLED ME 25:47.748 --> 25:49.847 align:start OUT OF. 25:49.850 --> 25:51.115 align:start I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS ABLE TO 25:51.118 --> 25:53.084 align:start EXPRESS THAT. 25:53.087 --> 25:54.552 align:start KNEW IF I TOOK THE TIME TO WRITE 25:54.555 --> 25:56.354 align:start THIS BOOK THAT I COULD DO THAT. 25:56.357 --> 25:58.656 align:start I COULD EXPRESS TO PEOPLE, I 25:58.659 --> 25:59.924 align:start COULD SHOW THEM ALL MY 25:59.927 --> 26:01.059 align:start VULNERABILITIES. 26:01.062 --> 26:03.328 align:start I DON'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT BEING 26:03.331 --> 26:04.829 align:start A DRUG ADDICT. 26:04.832 --> 26:05.797 align:start THOSE AREN'T THINGS I'M PROUD 26:05.800 --> 26:06.531 align:start OF, THOSE AREN'T DECISIONS I'M 26:06.534 --> 26:10.068 align:start HAPPY ABOUT, THOSE THINGS TURN 26:10.071 --> 26:13.137 align:start MY STOMACH. 26:13.140 --> 26:15.573 align:start BUT IF IT MEANS SHEDDING LIGHT 26:15.576 --> 26:16.741 align:start TO THOSE THINGS AND FOR PEOPLE 26:16.744 --> 26:21.079 align:start TO UNDERSTAND HOW FAR MY 26:21.082 --> 26:21.879 align:start BROTHERS WENT FOR ME -- THEN 26:21.882 --> 26:24.415 align:start IT'S ALL WORTH IT. 26:24.418 --> 26:24.782 align:start >> WHAT IS NEXT FOR BRENDAN 26:24.785 --> 26:27.352 align:start McDONOUGH? 26:27.355 --> 26:28.252 align:start >> WHAT IS NEXT FOR ME? 26:28.255 --> 26:31.055 align:start I THINK JUST LIVING A LIFE THAT 26:31.058 --> 26:32.857 align:start HONORS THEM. 26:32.860 --> 26:33.191 align:start THAT'S DEFINITELY A LIFE WORTH 26:33.194 --> 26:36.260 align:start LIVING. 26:36.263 --> 26:38.396 align:start AND BEING A DAD AND TRYING TO 26:38.399 --> 26:42.333 align:start JUST BE AN ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE 26:42.336 --> 26:44.435 align:start THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO KNOW AND 26:44.438 --> 26:48.740 align:start BE WILLING TO ACCEPT HELP. 26:48.743 --> 26:50.575 align:start I SEE TOO MANY GREAT MEN AND 26:50.578 --> 26:52.844 align:start WOMEN LOSE THEMSELVES TO SUICIDE 26:52.847 --> 26:55.646 align:start AND THEIR FAMILIES AND I WANT TO 26:55.649 --> 26:57.148 align:start BE A BETTER PART OF FIXING THAT. 26:57.151 --> 26:58.016 align:start I MEAN, THEY'VE GIVEN SO MUCH 26:58.019 --> 27:00.351 align:start FOR OUR COUNTRY. 27:00.354 --> 27:01.219 align:start WITHOUT THEM WE WOULDN'T HAVE 27:01.222 --> 27:01.719 align:start THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE 27:01.722 --> 27:02.687 align:start SITTING HERE. 27:02.690 --> 27:03.988 align:start I WOULDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY 27:03.991 --> 27:06.090 align:start TO WRITE A BOOK. 27:06.093 --> 27:07.291 align:start YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN ANOTHER 27:07.294 --> 27:08.292 align:start COUNTRY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE 27:08.295 --> 27:10.628 align:start OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. 27:10.631 --> 27:12.130 align:start IT'S THEIR SACRIFICES. 27:12.133 --> 27:13.231 align:start THEY THOUGHT WE WERE WORTH IT. 27:13.234 --> 27:14.932 align:start I WANT TO BE WORTH IT. 27:14.935 --> 27:15.333 align:start I WANT TO BE WORTH ALL THEIR 27:15.336 --> 27:18.269 align:start SACRIFICES. 27:18.272 --> 27:20.738 align:start I WANT THE PEOPLE AROUND ME TO 27:20.741 --> 27:22.273 align:start FEEL LIKE, THE MEN AND WOMEN 27:22.276 --> 27:23.708 align:start THAT HAVE DIED, THEY CAN LOOK AT 27:23.711 --> 27:27.578 align:start US AND THEY CAN SIT THERE AND 27:27.581 --> 27:29.347 align:start SAY, THEY'RE WORTH IT. 27:29.350 --> 27:31.983 align:start >> BRENDAN AND FERNANDEZ SAY 27:31.986 --> 27:33.317 align:start THEIR BOOKS WERE NOT ABOUT THE 27:33.320 --> 27:34.519 align:start YARNELL HILL FIRE BUT RATHER 27:34.522 --> 27:36.654 align:start ABOUT THE LEGACY AND THE LIVES 27:36.657 --> 27:38.156 align:start OF THE 19 MEN. 27:38.159 --> 27:41.092 align:start FOR ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC