>>> IT'S A DAY AMERICANS WILL
NEVER FORGET, LOOKING BACK ON

NEVER FORGET, LOOKING BACK ON
THE --

>>> IT'S A DAY AMERICANS WILL
NEVER FORGET.

NEVER FORGET.
LOOKING BACK ON THE TERROR OF

LOOKING BACK ON THE TERROR OF
9/11.

9/11.
>> IN MY MIND, THE THING THAT I

>> IN MY MIND, THE THING THAT I
REMEMBER MOST IS THIS

REMEMBER MOST IS THIS
REDDISH-ORANGE FIREBALL ROLLING

REDDISH-ORANGE FIREBALL ROLLING
OVER THE TOP OF THE PENTAGON

OVER THE TOP OF THE PENTAGON
TOWARDS THE POTOMAC RIVER.

TOWARDS THE POTOMAC RIVER.
>> AND A BORDER EXPERT WEIGHS IN

>> AND A BORDER EXPERT WEIGHS IN
ON WHETHER A THREAT EXISTS ALONG

ON WHETHER A THREAT EXISTS ALONG
OUR SOUTHERN BORDER.

OUR SOUTHERN BORDER.
>> IF A MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL WERE

>> IF A MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL WERE
EVER TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH HARD

EVER TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH HARD
EVIDENCE WITH A TERRORIST

EVIDENCE WITH A TERRORIST
ORGANIZATION, THERE IS NO FASTER

ORGANIZATION, THERE IS NO FASTER
WAY TO SHUT DOWN A

WAY TO SHUT DOWN A
DRUG-SMUGGLING OR HUMAN

DRUG-SMUGGLING OR HUMAN
SMUGGLING OPERATION.

SMUGGLING OPERATION.
>> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."

>> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
¶

>>> HELLO AND THANKS FOR JOINING
US.

US.
I'M LORRAINE RIVETTA, LAST WEEK

I'M LORRAINE RIVETTA, LAST WEEK
WE TOLD YOU REPUBLICAN

WE TOLD YOU REPUBLICAN
GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE DOUG

GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE DOUG
DOOSEY WOULD BE ON THIS PROGRAM.

DOOSEY WOULD BE ON THIS PROGRAM.
ON MONDAY HIS OFFICE CANCELED

ON MONDAY HIS OFFICE CANCELED
AND RESCHEDULED OUR INTERVIEW.

AND RESCHEDULED OUR INTERVIEW.
WE EXPECT TO INTERVIEW HIM NEXT

WE EXPECT TO INTERVIEW HIM NEXT
WEEK AND HAVE THE INTERVIEW NEXT

WEEK AND HAVE THE INTERVIEW NEXT
FRIDAY.

FRIDAY.
BACK TO THIS PROGRAM.

BACK TO THIS PROGRAM.
SEPTEMBER 11th WAS THE LARGEST

SEPTEMBER 11th WAS THE LARGEST
TERRORIST ATTACK ON U.S. SOIL.

TERRORIST ATTACK ON U.S. SOIL.
NEARLY 3,000 PEOPLE WERE KILLED

NEARLY 3,000 PEOPLE WERE KILLED
WHEN COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS FLEW

WHEN COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS FLEW
INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TWIN

INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TWIN
TOWERS AND THE PENTAGON.

TOWERS AND THE PENTAGON.
TONY COHLSON WAS A DRUG

TONY COHLSON WAS A DRUG
ENFORCEMENT AGENT AT THE TIME

ENFORCEMENT AGENT AT THE TIME
AND WAS IN BAESHDS.

AND WAS IN BAESHDS.
NOW RETIRED AND LIVING IN

NOW RETIRED AND LIVING IN
SOUTHERN ARIZONA, IN HIS OWN

SOUTHERN ARIZONA, IN HIS OWN
WORDS, HE TELLS US ABOUT THAT

WORDS, HE TELLS US ABOUT THAT
DAY.

DAY.
>> I ACTUALLY WAS WORKING, I

>> I ACTUALLY WAS WORKING, I
ACTUALLY GOT IN THAT MORNING

ACTUALLY GOT IN THAT MORNING
FROM NEW YORK CITY.

FROM NEW YORK CITY.
I CAME IN, CAUGHT A TRAIN BACK

I CAME IN, CAUGHT A TRAIN BACK
TO D.C., BECAUSE I WAS IN NEW

TO D.C., BECAUSE I WAS IN NEW
YORK, ON WORKING AND DOING SOME

YORK, ON WORKING AND DOING SOME
WORK THERE AND CAME BACK THAT

WORK THERE AND CAME BACK THAT
MORNING.

MORNING.
INTO HEADQUARTERS.

INTO HEADQUARTERS.
SO WHEN I CAME IN, THE DAME

SO WHEN I CAME IN, THE DAME
STARTED OFF NORMAL FOR ALL OF

STARTED OFF NORMAL FOR ALL OF
US.

US.
AND PRETTY SOON IT WAS A, YOU

AND PRETTY SOON IT WAS A, YOU
KNOW, A PLANE HIT ONE OF THE

KNOW, A PLANE HIT ONE OF THE
TOWERS IN NEW YORK.

TOWERS IN NEW YORK.
AND OF COURSE, EVERYONE IN DEA

AND OF COURSE, EVERYONE IN DEA
HEADQUARTERS AND AROUND THE

HEADQUARTERS AND AROUND THE
WORLD SWITCHED ON THE TVs AND

WORLD SWITCHED ON THE TVs AND
STARTED WATCHING WITH HORROR AND

STARTED WATCHING WITH HORROR AND
FASCINATION AT THE SAME TIME.

FASCINATION AT THE SAME TIME.
OF HOW THIS COULD HAPPEN.

OF HOW THIS COULD HAPPEN.
SOON AFTER THAT, A SECOND PLANE

SOON AFTER THAT, A SECOND PLANE
HIT THE OTHER TOWER.

HIT THE OTHER TOWER.
AND IT WAS IN THAT INSTANCE THAT

AND IT WAS IN THAT INSTANCE THAT
AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT,

AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT,
FROM WHERE I WAS STANDING, THAT

FROM WHERE I WAS STANDING, THAT
DEA, WE REALIZE THAT WE WERE

DEA, WE REALIZE THAT WE WERE
UNDER ATTACK.

UNDER ATTACK.
AND THINGS STARTED TO CHANGE

AND THINGS STARTED TO CHANGE
DRAMATICALLY FOR US AT THAT

DRAMATICALLY FOR US AT THAT
MOMENT.

MOMENT.
I WALKED TO MY BOSS'S OFFICE,

I WALKED TO MY BOSS'S OFFICE,
WHICH WAS ON THE OVERLOOKING THE

WHICH WAS ON THE OVERLOOKING THE
PENTAGON, OVERLOOKING THE SIDE

PENTAGON, OVERLOOKING THE SIDE
OF THE PENTAGON WHERE THE PLANE

OF THE PENTAGON WHERE THE PLANE
STRUCK.

STRUCK.
AND BEFORE, BEFORE THE PLANE

AND BEFORE, BEFORE THE PLANE
STRUCK THE PENTAGON.

STRUCK THE PENTAGON.
AND YOU REMEMBER CERTAIN

AND YOU REMEMBER CERTAIN
INSTANCES IN THAT DAY SO

INSTANCES IN THAT DAY SO
CLEARLY, THAT YOU RECALL.

CLEARLY, THAT YOU RECALL.
AND I REMEMBER SITTING THERE

AND I REMEMBER SITTING THERE
WITH MY BOSS, WHO WAS THEN THE

WITH MY BOSS, WHO WAS THEN THE
ACTING DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF

ACTING DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
DEA.

DEA.
AND WE'RE LOOKING OUT THE

AND WE'RE LOOKING OUT THE
WINDOW.

WINDOW.
AND WE WERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT

AND WE WERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT
THE PENTAGON AND WE WERE JUST

THE PENTAGON AND WE WERE JUST
SAYING, THAT'S A TARGET OVER

SAYING, THAT'S A TARGET OVER
THERE.

THERE.
AND WE'RE THE TALLEST BUILDINGS

AND WE'RE THE TALLEST BUILDINGS
NEXT TO THAT TARGET.

NEXT TO THAT TARGET.
AND WE'RE UNDER ATTACK.

AND WE'RE UNDER ATTACK.
WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO

WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO
MOBILIZE AROUND THIS, THIS

MOBILIZE AROUND THIS, THIS
ISSUE.

ISSUE.
AND I REMEMBER WALKING BACK TO

AND I REMEMBER WALKING BACK TO
MY OFFICE, WHICH WAS YOU KNOW,

MY OFFICE, WHICH WAS YOU KNOW,
20 FEET DOWN THE HALL, STANDING

20 FEET DOWN THE HALL, STANDING
IN MY OFFICE WHEN THE PLANE HIT

IN MY OFFICE WHEN THE PLANE HIT
THE PENTAGON.

THE PENTAGON.
AND ALTHOUGH I COULDN'T SEE THE

AND ALTHOUGH I COULDN'T SEE THE
IMPACT OF IT, YOU COULD HEAR IT,

IMPACT OF IT, YOU COULD HEAR IT,
YOU COULD FEEL THE BUILDING

YOU COULD FEEL THE BUILDING
SHAKE THAT WE WERE IN, BECAUSE

SHAKE THAT WE WERE IN, BECAUSE
WE WERE ONLY A FEW HUNDRED YARDS

WE WERE ONLY A FEW HUNDRED YARDS
AWAY FROM THE SIDE OF THE

AWAY FROM THE SIDE OF THE
PENTAGON.

PENTAGON.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
FREEWAY.

FREEWAY.
AND IN MY MIND, THE THING THAT I

AND IN MY MIND, THE THING THAT I
REMEMBER MOST IS THIS REDDISH

REMEMBER MOST IS THIS REDDISH
ORANGE FIREBALL ROLLING OVER THE

ORANGE FIREBALL ROLLING OVER THE
TOP OF THE PENTAGON TOWARDS THE

TOP OF THE PENTAGON TOWARDS THE
POTOMAC RIVER.

POTOMAC RIVER.
BECAUSE THE PLANE HIT ON THE

BECAUSE THE PLANE HIT ON THE
OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND I REMEMBER OUR STAFF

AND I REMEMBER OUR STAFF
ASSISTANT, AND THE SECRETARY, I

ASSISTANT, AND THE SECRETARY, I
REMEMBER THE LOOK ON HER FACE,

REMEMBER THE LOOK ON HER FACE,
THE HORROR, THE TERRIFIED TO THE

THE HORROR, THE TERRIFIED TO THE
BONE.

BONE.
AND THAT'S WHEN AN EMERGENCY

AND THAT'S WHEN AN EMERGENCY
SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, WHERE

SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, WHERE
TRAINING KICKS IN.

TRAINING KICKS IN.
AND YOU JUST START REACTING

AND YOU JUST START REACTING
AUTOMATICALLY.

AUTOMATICALLY.
ESPECIALLY FROM A LAW

ESPECIALLY FROM A LAW
ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT.

ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT.
YOU START ASSESSING THE

YOU START ASSESSING THE
PERSONNEL AROUND YOU, MAKING

PERSONNEL AROUND YOU, MAKING
SURE THAT THEY'RE OKAY, THAT

SURE THAT THEY'RE OKAY, THAT
THEY'RE CALM.

THEY'RE CALM.
AND THEN YOU KNOW, MY FIRST

AND THEN YOU KNOW, MY FIRST
RESPONSE WAS -- YOU KNOW, TO MY

RESPONSE WAS -- YOU KNOW, TO MY
BOSS, SITTING AND MANY ON THAT

BOSS, SITTING AND MANY ON THAT
SIDE OF THE BUILDING ACTUALLY

SIDE OF THE BUILDING ACTUALLY
OBSERVED THE AIRCRAFT COMING IN.

OBSERVED THE AIRCRAFT COMING IN.
AND IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE A LOT OF

AND IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE A LOT OF
FOLKS DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT THEY

FOLKS DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT THEY
COULD HEAR THE ENGINES.

COULD HEAR THE ENGINES.
THEY COULD HEAR THE ENGINES

THEY COULD HEAR THE ENGINES
REVVING AS IT CAME IN.

REVVING AS IT CAME IN.
AND HIT THE PENTAGON.

AND HIT THE PENTAGON.
AND THEN THE DEVASTATION FROM

AND THEN THE DEVASTATION FROM
THAT, THE FIRES THAT BROKE OUT,

THAT, THE FIRES THAT BROKE OUT,
THE SMOKE.

THE SMOKE.
BECAME PRETTY, PRETTY POWERFUL,

BECAME PRETTY, PRETTY POWERFUL,
OUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS.

OUR FIRST RESPONSE WAS.
TO MANAGE WHAT WAS COMING OVER

TO MANAGE WHAT WAS COMING OVER
FROM THE PENTAGON INTO OUR AREA.

FROM THE PENTAGON INTO OUR AREA.
AND SO DEA, LAW ENFORCEMENT,

AND SO DEA, LAW ENFORCEMENT,
FIRST RESPONDERS SET UP A TRIAGE

FIRST RESPONDERS SET UP A TRIAGE
ON THE ACTUAL LAWN OF THE DEA

ON THE ACTUAL LAWN OF THE DEA
HEADQUARTERS, A TRIAGE CENTER.

HEADQUARTERS, A TRIAGE CENTER.
AND AS FIRE AND POLICE

AND AS FIRE AND POLICE
RESPONDED, AS THE MILITARY

RESPONDED, AS THE MILITARY
RESPONDED, WE WOULD GO OUT IN

RESPONDED, WE WOULD GO OUT IN
THE FRONT PART OF THE LAWN WAS,

THE FRONT PART OF THE LAWN WAS,
EVACUATING THE WALKING WOUNDED

EVACUATING THE WALKING WOUNDED
TO THAT PLACE.

TO THAT PLACE.
AND SO IT WAS KIND OF, IT WAS

AND SO IT WAS KIND OF, IT WAS
KIND OF SURREAL.

KIND OF SURREAL.
AND WE HAD TO EVACUATE 2500

AND WE HAD TO EVACUATE 2500
PEOPLE FROM TWO BUILDINGS AND WE

PEOPLE FROM TWO BUILDINGS AND WE
HAD ANOTHER GOVERNMENT BUILDING

HAD ANOTHER GOVERNMENT BUILDING
IN CRYSTAL CITY.

IN CRYSTAL CITY.
SO WE HAD TO CONCERN OURSELVES

SO WE HAD TO CONCERN OURSELVES
ABOUT EVACUATION OF THOSE

ABOUT EVACUATION OF THOSE
PERSONNEL.

PERSONNEL.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE SMOKE

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE SMOKE
FROM THE PENTAGON WAS COMING IN

FROM THE PENTAGON WAS COMING IN
THE DIRECTION OF OUR BUILDING.

THE DIRECTION OF OUR BUILDING.
AND OUR AIR CONDITIONING UNITS

AND OUR AIR CONDITIONING UNITS
WERE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN SMOKE

WERE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN SMOKE
INTO THE BUILDING.

INTO THE BUILDING.
SO WE EVACUATED THE BUILDING, WE

SO WE EVACUATED THE BUILDING, WE
HAD TO FIGURE OUT, I'M SITTING

HAD TO FIGURE OUT, I'M SITTING
WITH THE BOSS WHO IS DIRECTING

WITH THE BOSS WHO IS DIRECTING
THIS FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE,

THIS FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE,
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE
COULD GET PEOPLE BACK ON THE

COULD GET PEOPLE BACK ON THE
ROADS AND BACK HOME.

ROADS AND BACK HOME.
WHICH WAS GOING TO BE A

WHICH WAS GOING TO BE A
NIGHTMARE FOR US.

NIGHTMARE FOR US.
WE CLOSED DOWN DEA HEADQUARTERS,

WE CLOSED DOWN DEA HEADQUARTERS,
LEFT A SIZEABLE AGENT SECURITY

LEFT A SIZEABLE AGENT SECURITY
FORCE AT THE FACILITY.

FORCE AT THE FACILITY.
AND MOVED TO OUR ALTERNATE

AND MOVED TO OUR ALTERNATE
COMMAND SITE IN VIRGINIA.

COMMAND SITE IN VIRGINIA.
AS WE GATHERED OUT YOU KNOW, 20,

AS WE GATHERED OUT YOU KNOW, 20,
30 MINUTES AFTER THE PLANE

30 MINUTES AFTER THE PLANE
CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON,

CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON,
ALREADY ALL THE COMMERCIAL

ALREADY ALL THE COMMERCIAL
AIRCRAFT HAD BEEN BROUGHT DOWN

AIRCRAFT HAD BEEN BROUGHT DOWN
TO THE GROUND LEVEL, TO AIRPORTS

TO THE GROUND LEVEL, TO AIRPORTS
WHEREVER THEY WERE.

WHEREVER THEY WERE.
AIR TRAFFIC STOPPED LITERALLY.

AIR TRAFFIC STOPPED LITERALLY.
IN THE UNITED STATES.

IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE

AND IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE
SURREAL MOMENTS WHEN YOU ARE

SURREAL MOMENTS WHEN YOU ARE
STANDING OUTSIDE, TRAFFIC,

STANDING OUTSIDE, TRAFFIC,
THERE'S NO TRAFFIC EXCEPT FOR

THERE'S NO TRAFFIC EXCEPT FOR
EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
THERE'S SMOKE FROM THE FIRES AT

THERE'S SMOKE FROM THE FIRES AT
THE PENTAGON RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

THE PENTAGON RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
AND YOU HAVE, AND YOU LOOK UP IN

AND YOU HAVE, AND YOU LOOK UP IN
THE SKY AND THE SKY IS CRYSTAL

THE SKY AND THE SKY IS CRYSTAL
BLUE SKIES.

BLUE SKIES.
AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE SKY.

AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE SKY.
AND WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE

AND WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE
NATIONAL AIRPORT.

NATIONAL AIRPORT.
AND THERE'S NO SOUNDS.

AND THERE'S NO SOUNDS.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING IN

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING IN
THE SKY.

THE SKY.
THERE'S NO PLANES.

THERE'S NO PLANES.
YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT CONTRAIL

YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT CONTRAIL
ETCH-A-SKETCH IN THE SKY.

ETCH-A-SKETCH IN THE SKY.
IT WAS A VERY SURREAL MOMENT IN

IT WAS A VERY SURREAL MOMENT IN
TERMS OF -- YOU KNOW, THE WORLD

TERMS OF -- YOU KNOW, THE WORLD
HAS STOPPED.

HAS STOPPED.
>> CAN TERRORISTS GAIN ENTRY TO

>> CAN TERRORISTS GAIN ENTRY TO
THE UNITED STATES THROUGH OUR

THE UNITED STATES THROUGH OUR
NATION'S SOUTHERN BORDER?

NATION'S SOUTHERN BORDER?
THE VERY QUESTION POSED THIS

THE VERY QUESTION POSED THIS
WEEK IN FRONT OF A HOUSE

WEEK IN FRONT OF A HOUSE
CONGRESSIONAL PANEL.

CONGRESSIONAL PANEL.
SYLVIA LONGMEYER WROTE A BOOK

SYLVIA LONGMEYER WROTE A BOOK
FIGHTED "BORDER INSECURITY" AND

FIGHTED "BORDER INSECURITY" AND
SHE SAID TERRORISTS SNEAKING IN

SHE SAID TERRORISTS SNEAKING IN
THROUGH THE U.S./MEXICO BOARD

THROUGH THE U.S./MEXICO BOARD
CERTIFICATE HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

CERTIFICATE HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
>> IT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN ANY

>> IT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN ANY
TIME YOU SEE 5,000 PEOPLE WHO

TIME YOU SEE 5,000 PEOPLE WHO
ARE COMING ACROSS WITHOUT

ARE COMING ACROSS WITHOUT
GETTING CAUGHT, WHO KNOWS HOW

GETTING CAUGHT, WHO KNOWS HOW
MANY MORE ARE COMING ACROSS AND

MANY MORE ARE COMING ACROSS AND
NOT GETTING CAUGHT.

NOT GETTING CAUGHT.
YOU SAY IF YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE

YOU SAY IF YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE
FOLKS FROM MEXICO AND CENTRAL

FOLKS FROM MEXICO AND CENTRAL
AMERICA COMING THROUGH, WHAT'S

AMERICA COMING THROUGH, WHAT'S
TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM THE MIDDLE

TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM THE MIDDLE
EAST FROM COMING ACROSS?

EAST FROM COMING ACROSS?
IT'S ALL ABOUT INTENTION AND

IT'S ALL ABOUT INTENTION AND
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LOGISTICS AND

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LOGISTICS AND
WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS WOULD BE

WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS WOULD BE
IF SOMEBODY WERE TO GET CAUGHT

IF SOMEBODY WERE TO GET CAUGHT
DOING THAT.

DOING THAT.
EITHER BY THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT

EITHER BY THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT
OR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.

OR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
IT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY, BUT

IT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY, BUT
FOR MANY COMPLEX REASONS, I

FOR MANY COMPLEX REASONS, I
REALLY DON'T THINK THEY'RE

REALLY DON'T THINK THEY'RE
COMING THROUGH MEXICO TO THE

COMING THROUGH MEXICO TO THE
UNITED STATES THAT WAY RIGHT

UNITED STATES THAT WAY RIGHT
NOW.

NOW.
>> BUT THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE

>> BUT THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE
SAID FOR MAYBE THE CARTELS

SAID FOR MAYBE THE CARTELS
LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING, IF

LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING, IF
WE CAN GET THE MOMS AND DADS AND

WE CAN GET THE MOMS AND DADS AND
THE CHILDREN COMING THROUGH THE

THE CHILDREN COMING THROUGH THE
BORDER, WHY NOT GET A HIGH LEVEL

BORDER, WHY NOT GET A HIGH LEVEL
TERRORIST WHO WANTS TO COME IN

TERRORIST WHO WANTS TO COME IN
AND INFILTRATE THE COUNTRY.

AND INFILTRATE THE COUNTRY.
>> SURE, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

>> SURE, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
CERTAIN HUMAN SMUGGLING RINGS

CERTAIN HUMAN SMUGGLING RINGS
THAT SPECIALIZE IN WHAT

THAT SPECIALIZE IN WHAT
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
AT LEAST USED TO CALL SPECIAL

AT LEAST USED TO CALL SPECIAL
INTEREST RAIL YENS.

INTEREST RAIL YENS.
INDIVIDUALS THAT COME FROM

INDIVIDUALS THAT COME FROM
ROUGHLY 30-32 COUNTRIES THAT ARE

ROUGHLY 30-32 COUNTRIES THAT ARE
ASSOCIATED IN SOME WAYS WITH

ASSOCIATED IN SOME WAYS WITH
TERRORISM.

TERRORISM.
WHETHER IT'S SYRIA, IRAQ, ET

WHETHER IT'S SYRIA, IRAQ, ET
CETERA.

CETERA.
AND THEY CHARGE A CONSIDERABLE

AND THEY CHARGE A CONSIDERABLE
AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MOVE THESE

AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MOVE THESE
PEOPLE INTO THE UNITED STATES.

PEOPLE INTO THE UNITED STATES.
HOWEVER, IF A MEXICAN DRUG

HOWEVER, IF A MEXICAN DRUG
CARTEL WERE EVER TO BE

CARTEL WERE EVER TO BE
ASSOCIATED WITH HARD EVIDENCE,

ASSOCIATED WITH HARD EVIDENCE,
WITH A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION,

WITH A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION,
THERE IS NO FASTER WAY TO SHUT

THERE IS NO FASTER WAY TO SHUT
DOWN A DRUG SMUGGLING OR HUMAN

DOWN A DRUG SMUGGLING OR HUMAN
SMUGGLING ORGANIZATION, NO

SMUGGLING ORGANIZATION, NO
FASTER WAY TO SHUT DOWN

FASTER WAY TO SHUT DOWN
CROSS-BORDER TRADE OR

CROSS-BORDER TRADE OR
CROSS-BORDER FLOW.

CROSS-BORDER FLOW.
THAT BOTH NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE

THAT BOTH NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE
PROFITS OF DRUG CARTELS AND IT

PROFITS OF DRUG CARTELS AND IT
NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE MEXICAN

NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE MEXICAN
ECONOMY, SO IT'S NOT IN THE BEST

ECONOMY, SO IT'S NOT IN THE BEST
INTERESTS OF THE CARTELS TO

INTERESTS OF THE CARTELS TO
ASSOCIATE THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF

ASSOCIATE THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF
THE REPERCUSSIONS AND MIGHT EVEN

THE REPERCUSSIONS AND MIGHT EVEN
OPEN THE DOOR TO THE MEXICAN

OPEN THE DOOR TO THE MEXICAN
GOVERNMENT ASKING THE U.S.

GOVERNMENT ASKING THE U.S.
MILITARY TO COME IN AN

MILITARY TO COME IN AN
INTERFERE.

INTERFERE.
>> YOU TALK ABOUT THAT

>> YOU TALK ABOUT THAT
ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT IN YOUR

ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT IN YOUR
BOOK.

BOOK.
AND YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT MAYBE

AND YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT MAYBE
PRAYER RUGS AND CONNECTIONS TO

PRAYER RUGS AND CONNECTIONS TO
HEZBOLLAH.

HEZBOLLAH.
HOW MUCH TRUTH IS THAT TO THAT

HOW MUCH TRUTH IS THAT TO THAT
PARAPHERNALIA ALONG THE BORDER.

PARAPHERNALIA ALONG THE BORDER.
GO WE HAVE A LOT OF RANCHERS WHO

GO WE HAVE A LOT OF RANCHERS WHO
LIVE ALONG THE BORDER.

LIVE ALONG THE BORDER.
GOOD CHUNK OF THE TEXAS/MEXICO

GOOD CHUNK OF THE TEXAS/MEXICO
BORDER.

BORDER.
EVERY NOW AND THEN THEY MAKE

EVERY NOW AND THEN THEY MAKE
REPORTS THAT THEY'RE FINDING

REPORTS THAT THEY'RE FINDING
CRAYONS OR OTHER BOOKS IN

CRAYONS OR OTHER BOOKS IN
FOREIGN LANGUAGES FROM THE

FOREIGN LANGUAGES FROM THE
MIDDLE EAST AND WHAT THEY SAY

MIDDLE EAST AND WHAT THEY SAY
ARE PRAYER RUGS.

ARE PRAYER RUGS.
PRAYER RUGS HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC

PRAYER RUGS HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC
LOOK TO THEM.

LOOK TO THEM.
BUT ANY MUSLIM CAN USE ANY KIND

BUT ANY MUSLIM CAN USE ANY KIND
OF RUG IN A PINCH TO DO THEIR

OF RUG IN A PINCH TO DO THEIR
DAILY PRAYERS.

DAILY PRAYERS.
SO FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT

SO FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT
FAMILIAR WITH THE ISLAMIC FAITH

FAMILIAR WITH THE ISLAMIC FAITH
AND WHAT THE RITUALS AND

AND WHAT THE RITUALS AND
EVERYTHING ARE, TO JUST SAY HEY,

EVERYTHING ARE, TO JUST SAY HEY,
I FOUND THIS RUG IN THE DESERT

I FOUND THIS RUG IN THE DESERT
AND THIS IS A PRAYER RUG,

AND THIS IS A PRAYER RUG,
SOMETIMES CAN BE A REAL STRETCH.

SOMETIMES CAN BE A REAL STRETCH.
LOOKING BACK ON SOME OF THE

LOOKING BACK ON SOME OF THE
OTHER THINGS, PATCHES, THEY SAY

OTHER THINGS, PATCHES, THEY SAY
IT'S AEN AIRPLANE FLYING INTO

IT'S AEN AIRPLANE FLYING INTO
THE TWIN TOWERS AND FURTHER

THE TWIN TOWERS AND FURTHER
RESEARCH SHOWED IT BELONGED TO A

RESEARCH SHOWED IT BELONGED TO A
JANITORIAL COMPANY AND IT HAD

JANITORIAL COMPANY AND IT HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH AN AIRPLANE

NOTHING TO DO WITH AN AIRPLANE
GOING INTO THE TWIN TOWERS.

GOING INTO THE TWIN TOWERS.
SO IT'S EASY TO FIND SOMETHING

SO IT'S EASY TO FIND SOMETHING
THAT LOOKS FOREIGN OR STRANGE IN

THAT LOOKS FOREIGN OR STRANGE IN
THE DESERT AND SAY THIS IS

THE DESERT AND SAY THIS IS
ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE

ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE
MUSLIM TERRORISTS COMING INTO

MUSLIM TERRORISTS COMING INTO
THE UNITED STATES.

THE UNITED STATES.
WE DO HAVE MUSLIMS THAT

WE DO HAVE MUSLIMS THAT
OCCASIONALLY ILLEGALLY COME TO

OCCASIONALLY ILLEGALLY COME TO
THE UNITED STATES FOR DIFFERENT

THE UNITED STATES FOR DIFFERENT
REASONS.

REASONS.
BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT AN

BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT AN
OPERATIONAL TERRORIST HAS EVER

OPERATIONAL TERRORIST HAS EVER
ENTERED THE UNITED STATES COMING

ENTERED THE UNITED STATES COMING
THROUGH THE BORDER.

THROUGH THE BORDER.
SO SOMETIMES IT'S COINCIDENTAL.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S COINCIDENTAL.
IT CAN'T ALWAYS BE DISCOUNTED.

IT CAN'T ALWAYS BE DISCOUNTED.
BUT RIGHT NOW THAT QUOTE-UNQUOTE

BUT RIGHT NOW THAT QUOTE-UNQUOTE
EVIDENCE IS JUST NOT, IT'S JUST

EVIDENCE IS JUST NOT, IT'S JUST
NOT HEAVY ENOUGH TO SHOW

NOT HEAVY ENOUGH TO SHOW
ANYTHING DEFINITIVE.

ANYTHING DEFINITIVE.
>> IN YOUR RESEARCH, DO YOU FIND

>> IN YOUR RESEARCH, DO YOU FIND
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ALWAYS

THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ALWAYS
KEEPING ON THEIR TOES WHEN IT

KEEPING ON THEIR TOES WHEN IT
COMES TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT

COMES TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT
COULD HAPPEN THROUGH OUR

COULD HAPPEN THROUGH OUR
SOUTHERN BOARD CENTRE.

SOUTHERN BOARD CENTRE.
>> OF COURSE.

>> OF COURSE.
ESPECIALLY SINCE 9/11, LAW

ESPECIALLY SINCE 9/11, LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE

ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE
DEDICATED NOT ONLY TO STOPPING

DEDICATED NOT ONLY TO STOPPING
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
BUT THEY'RE REALLY DIALED INTO

BUT THEY'RE REALLY DIALED INTO
TASK FORCES AND THE STATE FUSION

TASK FORCES AND THE STATE FUSION
CENTERS TO KEEP AN EAR TO THE

CENTERS TO KEEP AN EAR TO THE
GROUND FOR ANY POSSIBLE

GROUND FOR ANY POSSIBLE
TERRORIST ACTIVITIES.

TERRORIST ACTIVITIES.
SO BASED ON INTELLIGENCE COMING

SO BASED ON INTELLIGENCE COMING
IN, THEY'RE LEARNING IF THERE'S

IN, THEY'RE LEARNING IF THERE'S
ANY CHATTER OR ANY TRAFFIC THAT

ANY CHATTER OR ANY TRAFFIC THAT
COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THEIR

COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THEIR
COMMUNITIES, THEIR COUNTY,

COMMUNITIES, THEIR COUNTY,
WHATEVER AGENCY IT IS THAT THEY

WHATEVER AGENCY IT IS THAT THEY
WORK TO.

WORK TO.
SO, YES, THEY'RE DEFINITELY

SO, YES, THEY'RE DEFINITELY
ATTUNED TO THE FACT.

ATTUNED TO THE FACT.
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE

THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
POSSIBILITY AND THEY'RE ALSO

POSSIBILITY AND THEY'RE ALSO
INVOLVED IN MITIGATING ANY KIND

INVOLVED IN MITIGATING ANY KIND
OF TERRORIST ACTIVITY IN THEIR

OF TERRORIST ACTIVITY IN THEIR
AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY.

AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY.
>> SO IN MANY CASES THEY COME

>> SO IN MANY CASES THEY COME
THROUGH LEGITIMATELY?

THROUGH LEGITIMATELY?
>> OUT OF THE 36 OPERATIONAL

>> OUT OF THE 36 OPERATIONAL
TERRORISTS THAT HAVE BEEN

TERRORISTS THAT HAVE BEEN
APPREHENDED IN THE UNITED

APPREHENDED IN THE UNITED
STATES, SINCE 9/11 AND EVEN

STATES, SINCE 9/11 AND EVEN
BEFORE THAT, LIKE THE MILLENNIUM

BEFORE THAT, LIKE THE MILLENNIUM
BOMBER WAS BEFORE THEN.

BOMBER WAS BEFORE THEN.
THE UNDERWEAR BOMBER.

THE UNDERWEAR BOMBER.
ALL OF THEM HAVE ENTERED THE

ALL OF THEM HAVE ENTERED THE
STATES THROUGH ANOTHER PORT OF

STATES THROUGH ANOTHER PORT OF
ENTRY.

ENTRY.
NOT A SINGLE ONE HAS COME

NOT A SINGLE ONE HAS COME
THROUGH MEXICO.

THROUGH MEXICO.
THEY'VE EITHER ENTERED THROUGH

THEY'VE EITHER ENTERED THROUGH
AIRPORTS OR COME THROUGH A

AIRPORTS OR COME THROUGH A
VEHICLE OR FERRY FROM CANADA.

VEHICLE OR FERRY FROM CANADA.
THEY'VE ALL HAD LEGITIMATE

THEY'VE ALL HAD LEGITIMATE
TRAVEL DOCUMENTS, SOME OF THE

TRAVEL DOCUMENTS, SOME OF THE
PASSPORTS WERE FRAUDULENT, BUT

PASSPORTS WERE FRAUDULENT, BUT
AT LEAST LOOKING AT IT, IT'S A

AT LEAST LOOKING AT IT, IT'S A
REAL PASSPORT AND THEY'RE USING

REAL PASSPORT AND THEY'RE USING
PLANE TICKETS.

PLANE TICKETS.
GROUPS LIKE AL QAEDA, HEZBOLLAH

GROUPS LIKE AL QAEDA, HEZBOLLAH
AND PERHAPS NOW ISIS AND WE'LL

AND PERHAPS NOW ISIS AND WE'LL
SEE THAT MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD,

SEE THAT MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD,
THAT WILL BE A BIGGER CONCERN.

THAT WILL BE A BIGGER CONCERN.
THEY INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN

THEY INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN
THEIR OPERATIVES.

THEIR OPERATIVES.
THERE IS A HUGE RISK TO SEND

THERE IS A HUGE RISK TO SEND
SOMEBODY THROUGH A PLACE AS

SOMEBODY THROUGH A PLACE AS
DANGEROUS AS MEXICO AND RISK

DANGEROUS AS MEXICO AND RISK
DEALING WITH VERY DEADLY DRUG

DEALING WITH VERY DEADLY DRUG
CARTELS AND POSSIBLY HAVING ONE

CARTELS AND POSSIBLY HAVING ONE
OF THESE OPERATIONAL TERRORISTS

OF THESE OPERATIONAL TERRORISTS
DIE IN THE DESERT.

DIE IN THE DESERT.
TERRORISTS GROUPS TAKE THE PATH

TERRORISTS GROUPS TAKE THE PATH
OF LEAST RESISTANCE, AND LATELY

OF LEAST RESISTANCE, AND LATELY
IT'S BEEN TO TRAIN THEM AND

IT'S BEEN TO TRAIN THEM AND
RECRUIT PEOPLE WHO HAVE CLEAN

RECRUIT PEOPLE WHO HAVE CLEAN
BACKGROUNDS, SO THEY'RE NOT

BACKGROUNDS, SO THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO POP UP ON SOME TYPE OF

GOING TO POP UP ON SOME TYPE OF
TERRORIST WATCH LIST.

TERRORIST WATCH LIST.
THEY CAN FLY INTO THE UNITED

THEY CAN FLY INTO THE UNITED
STATES WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.

STATES WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.
WHY GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE AND

WHY GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE AND
DANGER OF SENDING THEM THROUGH

DANGER OF SENDING THEM THROUGH
MEXICO WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY

MEXICO WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY
OTHER EASIER WAYS TO GET HERE.

OTHER EASIER WAYS TO GET HERE.
THAT'S ANOTHER ARGUMENT FOR WHY

THAT'S ANOTHER ARGUMENT FOR WHY
THEY WOULDN'T COME IN ACROSS THE

THEY WOULDN'T COME IN ACROSS THE
SOUTHERN BORDER.

SOUTHERN BORDER.
>> HOW DO YOU DEFINE TERROR?

>> HOW DO YOU DEFINE TERROR?
ONE FORMER POLICE OFFICER SAYS

ONE FORMER POLICE OFFICER SAYS
MASS SHOOTINGS CARRY THE SAME

MASS SHOOTINGS CARRY THE SAME
LEVEL OF TERROR AS WHAT HAPPENED

LEVEL OF TERROR AS WHAT HAPPENED
ON 9/11.

ON 9/11.
HERE'S MY INTERVIEW WITH MICHAEL

HERE'S MY INTERVIEW WITH MICHAEL
WIDMER, A FORMER POLICE SERGEANT

WIDMER, A FORMER POLICE SERGEANT
WHO AUTHORED A BOOK ENTITLED

WHO AUTHORED A BOOK ENTITLED
"INTERVENTION."

"INTERVENTION."
>> I BELIEVE IT IS AN EPIDEMIC.

>> I BELIEVE IT IS AN EPIDEMIC.
I BELIEVE IT'S COME TO THE

I BELIEVE IT'S COME TO THE
PROPORTIONS WHERE IT CAN'T BE

PROPORTIONS WHERE IT CAN'T BE
MEASURED ANY MORE.

MEASURED ANY MORE.
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WAY OF

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WAY OF
PREDICTING IT.

PREDICTING IT.
THE FICTIONAL STORY TELLS WHAT

THE FICTIONAL STORY TELLS WHAT
SOME PEOPLE WISH WOULD HAPPEN.

SOME PEOPLE WISH WOULD HAPPEN.
WHICH IS THERE'S SOME MAGICAL

WHICH IS THERE'S SOME MAGICAL
WAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE A SYSTEM

WAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE A SYSTEM
THAT DETERMINE WHO IS IS GOING

THAT DETERMINE WHO IS IS GOING
TO DO THESE THINGS.

TO DO THESE THINGS.
AND THEN YOU GO AFTER THEM

AND THEN YOU GO AFTER THEM
BEFORE THEY DO IT.

BEFORE THEY DO IT.
THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.

THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
THE FICTIONAL STORY IS DESIGNED

THE FICTIONAL STORY IS DESIGNED
TO ENTERTAIN YOU AND MAKE YOU

TO ENTERTAIN YOU AND MAKE YOU
THINK ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE

THINK ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE
IN THE FUTURE TO MAYBE PREVENT

IN THE FUTURE TO MAYBE PREVENT
SOME OF THESE THINGS.

SOME OF THESE THINGS.
>> AND IN THE BOOK, IT'S REALLY

>> AND IN THE BOOK, IT'S REALLY
KIND OF SET ON A NATIONAL SCALE.

KIND OF SET ON A NATIONAL SCALE.
WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS INVOLVED,

WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS INVOLVED,
HE'S AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

HE'S AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
BUT THAT THE PRESIDENT KNOWS AND

BUT THAT THE PRESIDENT KNOWS AND
IT'S ON A LOCAL LEVEL, THESE

IT'S ON A LOCAL LEVEL, THESE
INCIDENTS KEEP HAPPENING AND THE

INCIDENTS KEEP HAPPENING AND THE
TEAM GOES INTO ELIMINATE THE

TEAM GOES INTO ELIMINATE THE
THREAT, I THINK IS HOW MAYBE HE

THREAT, I THINK IS HOW MAYBE HE
PUT IT.

PUT IT.
THIS IS NOT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO

THIS IS NOT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO
HEAR.

HEAR.
THAT THE MOMENT YOU KNOW SOMEONE

THAT THE MOMENT YOU KNOW SOMEONE
IS GOING TO ACT, YOU STOP THEM

IS GOING TO ACT, YOU STOP THEM
BEFORE THEY DO IT.

BEFORE THEY DO IT.
>> IF YOU STOP AND THINK ABOUT

>> IF YOU STOP AND THINK ABOUT
IT, WE'VE NEVER BEEN CONFRONTED

IT, WE'VE NEVER BEEN CONFRONTED
WITH IT AT THIS LEVEL BEFORE.

WITH IT AT THIS LEVEL BEFORE.
FOR YEARS IN THE PAST, PEOPLE

FOR YEARS IN THE PAST, PEOPLE
HAD TO FACE THE POSSIBILITY THAT

HAD TO FACE THE POSSIBILITY THAT
THERE WAS GOING TO BE MASS

THERE WAS GOING TO BE MASS
SHOOTINGS BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO

SHOOTINGS BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO
DIE, THEY WANT TO KILL

DIE, THEY WANT TO KILL
THEMSELVES, IN CERTAIN

THEMSELVES, IN CERTAIN
SITUATIONS, THEY HAVE BAD TIMES

SITUATIONS, THEY HAVE BAD TIMES
IN THEIR LIFE.

IN THEIR LIFE.
NOW IT'S TO THE PLACE WHERE IT'S

NOW IT'S TO THE PLACE WHERE IT'S
BECOME WHEN YOU USE THE WORD

BECOME WHEN YOU USE THE WORD
EPIDEMIC, A CULT.

EPIDEMIC, A CULT.
SO WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO TALK

SO WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO TALK
ABOUT IT, IT'S DIFFICULT,

ABOUT IT, IT'S DIFFICULT,
BECAUSE NOBODY HAS PUT THEIR

BECAUSE NOBODY HAS PUT THEIR
HAND ON THE WAY TO FIX THIS.

HAND ON THE WAY TO FIX THIS.
SO IT LEAVES IT WIDE OPEN TO

SO IT LEAVES IT WIDE OPEN TO
SPECULATION.

SPECULATION.
YOU AND I DISCUSSED EARLIER.

YOU AND I DISCUSSED EARLIER.
SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE

SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE
GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY.

GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY.
I CAN TELL THAW IT'S STILL NOT

I CAN TELL THAW IT'S STILL NOT
UNDER CONTROL, IT'S NOT GOING TO

UNDER CONTROL, IT'S NOT GOING TO
BE UNDER CONTROL UNTIL PEOPLE

BE UNDER CONTROL UNTIL PEOPLE
TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN

TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN
ENVIRONMENT?

ENVIRONMENT?
>> AT THE END OF THE BOOK YOU

>> AT THE END OF THE BOOK YOU
PROVIDE SOME RESOURCES OR IDEAS

PROVIDE SOME RESOURCES OR IDEAS
FOR SCHOOLS TO REALLY LOOK AT

FOR SCHOOLS TO REALLY LOOK AT
HOW THEY MANAGE SECURITY.

HOW THEY MANAGE SECURITY.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS

WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS
THAT YOU THINK COULD GO A LONG

THAT YOU THINK COULD GO A LONG
WAY.

WAY.
SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE NOT

SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE NOT
AFFORDABLE, THEY'RE NOT

AFFORDABLE, THEY'RE NOT
REALISTIC.

REALISTIC.
THEY ARE IDEAS AND MAYBE IN YOUR

THEY ARE IDEAS AND MAYBE IN YOUR
OPINION, STEPS IN THE RIGHT

OPINION, STEPS IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.

DIRECTION.
>> SO IN THE BOOK I PUT IN THAT

>> SO IN THE BOOK I PUT IN THAT
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FIRST AN

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FIRST AN
INTELLIGIBLE CAMERA SYSTEM TO BE

INTELLIGIBLE CAMERA SYSTEM TO BE
MONITORED DURING THE DAY.

MONITORED DURING THE DAY.
TO GIVE WARNING OF SOMEBODY

TO GIVE WARNING OF SOMEBODY
APPROACHING THE SCHOOL.

APPROACHING THE SCHOOL.
NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, THE

NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, THE
PERPETRATORS OF THESE CRIMES GET

PERPETRATORS OF THESE CRIMES GET
OUT OF THESE CARS, PULL A MASK

OUT OF THESE CARS, PULL A MASK
OUT OF THEIR FACE AND GET A

OUT OF THEIR FACE AND GET A
RIFLE OR GUN AND WALK RIGHT UP

RIFLE OR GUN AND WALK RIGHT UP
TO THE SCHOOL.

TO THE SCHOOL.
THAT'S THE FIRST STEP, IS TO BE

THAT'S THE FIRST STEP, IS TO BE
ABLE TO SPOT IT.

ABLE TO SPOT IT.
THE SECOND STEP IS TO BE ABLE TO

THE SECOND STEP IS TO BE ABLE TO
KEEP PEOPLE FROM GETTING IN LONG

KEEP PEOPLE FROM GETTING IN LONG
ENOUGH FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO

ENOUGH FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
GET THERE.

GET THERE.
THAT'S GOING TO INVOLVE

THAT'S GOING TO INVOLVE
RETROFITTING SOME OLD SCHOOLS,

RETROFITTING SOME OLD SCHOOLS,
CHANGING SOME OF THE

CHANGING SOME OF THE
CONSTRUCTION AND MAKING NEW

CONSTRUCTION AND MAKING NEW
SCHOOLS COMPLETELY STOCKED WITH

SCHOOLS COMPLETELY STOCKED WITH
THE KIND OF THINGS THAT KEEP

THE KIND OF THINGS THAT KEEP
PEOPLE OUT.

PEOPLE OUT.
ONCE YOU KEEP THEM OUT, YOU NEED

ONCE YOU KEEP THEM OUT, YOU NEED
A WAY TO KEEP THEM OUT IF THEY

A WAY TO KEEP THEM OUT IF THEY
PERSIST.

PERSIST.
THAT MAY INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT

THAT MAY INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT
TRAINING PROGRAM WITH LOCAL LAW

TRAINING PROGRAM WITH LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT.

ENFORCEMENT.
AND TEACH THEM HOW TO ACTUALLY

AND TEACH THEM HOW TO ACTUALLY
USE ASSAULT RIFLES AND HAVE THEM

USE ASSAULT RIFLES AND HAVE THEM
AVAILABLE FOR THEM ON CAMPUS.

AVAILABLE FOR THEM ON CAMPUS.
THEY DON'T NEED IT CARRY THEM

THEY DON'T NEED IT CARRY THEM
AROUND THE CLASSROOM.

AROUND THE CLASSROOM.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS, NOBODY CAN

THAT'S RIDICULOUS, NOBODY CAN
CARE RAY GUN IN CLASS, THAT'S

CARE RAY GUN IN CLASS, THAT'S
NOT GOING TO WORK.

NOT GOING TO WORK.
FOR THE MOST PART, THEY NEED TO

FOR THE MOST PART, THEY NEED TO
TAKE A LESSON, LEARN HOW TO USE

TAKE A LESSON, LEARN HOW TO USE
THE GUN AND BE ABLE TO RESIST

THE GUN AND BE ABLE TO RESIST
LONG ENOUGH FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT

LONG ENOUGH FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO GET THERE.

TO GET THERE.
THEN THE SCENE HAS TO BE TURNED

THEN THE SCENE HAS TO BE TURNED
BACK OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

BACK OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THEN IT HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED

THEN IT HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED
TO A REASONABLE DEGREE.

TO A REASONABLE DEGREE.
THE LONG-TERM EXPENSIVE

THE LONG-TERM EXPENSIVE
INVESTIGATIONS, ALL THAT MONEY

INVESTIGATIONS, ALL THAT MONEY
COULD BE USED TO HELP SCHOOLS

COULD BE USED TO HELP SCHOOLS
SHORE UP THEIR SECURITY SYSTEMS

SHORE UP THEIR SECURITY SYSTEMS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
THERE'S SOME BARRIER THINGS THAT

THERE'S SOME BARRIER THINGS THAT
GO UP TO KEEP VEHICLES AWAY.

GO UP TO KEEP VEHICLES AWAY.
THERE'S SOME CONSTRUCTION

THERE'S SOME CONSTRUCTION
CONSIDERATIONS THAT I THINK, I'M

CONSIDERATIONS THAT I THINK, I'M
NOT SAYING I'M A CONSTRUCTION

NOT SAYING I'M A CONSTRUCTION
EXPERT OR ANYTHING.

EXPERT OR ANYTHING.
BUT I LOOKED AT IT ON THE

BUT I LOOKED AT IT ON THE
COMMON-SENSE SIDE.

COMMON-SENSE SIDE.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED YET.

THIS HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED YET.
IT'S NOT WORKED ANYWHERE THAT

IT'S NOT WORKED ANYWHERE THAT
I'VE SEEN.

I'VE SEEN.
AND EVEN ONE OF THE MORE

AND EVEN ONE OF THE MORE
PREDOMINANT ONES THAT HAPPEN,

PREDOMINANT ONES THAT HAPPEN,
ACTUALLY CHANGED TO WHERE THE

ACTUALLY CHANGED TO WHERE THE
DOORS WERE LOCKED ALL DAY LONG.

DOORS WERE LOCKED ALL DAY LONG.
BUT THEN THE PERPETRATOR SHOT

BUT THEN THE PERPETRATOR SHOT
HIS WAY THROUGH THE GLASS.

HIS WAY THROUGH THE GLASS.
SO IT HAS TO BE BULLETPROOF OR

SO IT HAS TO BE BULLETPROOF OR
BULLET-RESISTANT, ANYWAY.

BULLET-RESISTANT, ANYWAY.
>> IT'S A TOUGH CONVERSATION,

>> IT'S A TOUGH CONVERSATION,
BUT YOU THINK IT'S NECESSARY?

BUT YOU THINK IT'S NECESSARY?
>> THEY LOOK AND SAY, IT DOESN'T

>> THEY LOOK AND SAY, IT DOESN'T
AFFECT ME RIGHT NOW.

AFFECT ME RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING

WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING
TO COME TO MY SCHOOL.

TO COME TO MY SCHOOL.
THEY PROBABLY WON'T, BECAUSE

THEY PROBABLY WON'T, BECAUSE
THEY'VE NEVER COME TO THIS

THEY'VE NEVER COME TO THIS
SCHOOL, SO IT'S NEVER GOING TO

SCHOOL, SO IT'S NEVER GOING TO
HAPPEN.

HAPPEN.
THE REALITY IS, WE DON'T KNOW.

THE REALITY IS, WE DON'T KNOW.
1500 STUDENTS AT SOUTH PASADENA

1500 STUDENTS AT SOUTH PASADENA
HIGH SCHOOL.

HIGH SCHOOL.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BLOODBATH.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BLOODBATH.
AND IT WAS PREVENTED AND

AND IT WAS PREVENTED AND
STOPPED.

STOPPED.
SOMEBODY GOT THERE BEFORE THE

SOMEBODY GOT THERE BEFORE THE
SHOOTING STARTED.

SHOOTING STARTED.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO
HAPPEN IF THEY WANT TO KEEP

HAPPEN IF THEY WANT TO KEEP
THESE THINGS FROM TAKING OVER

THESE THINGS FROM TAKING OVER
THE MINDS AND THE THOUGHTS OF

THE MINDS AND THE THOUGHTS OF
ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THIS COUNTRY.

ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THIS COUNTRY.
CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION?

CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION?
IF SOMEONE PULLS UP TO YOUR

IF SOMEONE PULLS UP TO YOUR
SCHOOL AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING,

SCHOOL AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING,
OPENS THE CAR DOOR, PULL AS MASK

OPENS THE CAR DOOR, PULL AS MASK
OVER THEIR FACE AND TAKES A GUN

OVER THEIR FACE AND TAKES A GUN
UP TO THE SCHOOL, CAN THE SCHOOL

UP TO THE SCHOOL, CAN THE SCHOOL
PROTECT YOUR CHILD?

PROTECT YOUR CHILD?
MY ASSERTION IS ON MOST LEVELS,

MY ASSERTION IS ON MOST LEVELS,
CAN YOU PRETTY MUCH SAY WE

CAN YOU PRETTY MUCH SAY WE
HAVEN'T REACHED THAT STAGE YET.

HAVEN'T REACHED THAT STAGE YET.
WHERE WE CAN PROTECT OUR KIDS.

WHERE WE CAN PROTECT OUR KIDS.
AND SO, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

AND SO, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE
ARE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS TO

ARE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS TO
TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER AND I

TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER AND I
THINK THEY'RE ALL REALLY, REALLY

THINK THEY'RE ALL REALLY, REALLY
MOTIVATED AND THEY'RE REALLY

MOTIVATED AND THEY'RE REALLY
WANT TO DO MORE.

WANT TO DO MORE.
YES, MONEY IS RESTRICTIVE, YES,

YES, MONEY IS RESTRICTIVE, YES,
FINANCING, YES.

FINANCING, YES.
RESOURCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

RESOURCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS

BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS
THAT COMMUNITIES CAN WORK

THAT COMMUNITIES CAN WORK
TOGETHER TO GATHER.

TOGETHER TO GATHER.
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE KIDS ARE

TO MAKE SURE THAT THE KIDS ARE
SAFE.

SAFE.
UNTIL THE COPS GET THERE.

UNTIL THE COPS GET THERE.
>> IN THE DAYS FOLLOWING 9/11,

>> IN THE DAYS FOLLOWING 9/11,
COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY

COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY
BEGAN TO FORMULATE IDEAS ON HOW

BEGAN TO FORMULATE IDEAS ON HOW
TO BETTER IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY

TO BETTER IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY
AND THEIR RESPONSE TO CRISIS

AND THEIR RESPONSE TO CRISIS
SITUATIONS.

SITUATIONS.
IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA, PIMA COUNTY

IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA, PIMA COUNTY
IS HOME TO OFFICE OF EMERGENCY

IS HOME TO OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT AND DEPARTMENT OF

MANAGEMENT AND DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY.

HOMELAND SECURITY.
JEFF GUTHRIE IS THE DEPUTY

JEFF GUTHRIE IS THE DEPUTY
DIRECTOR AND EXPLAINS HOW

DIRECTOR AND EXPLAINS HOW
FACILITIES LIKE THESE SERVE AS

FACILITIES LIKE THESE SERVE AS
AN INFORMATION CENTER DURING A

AN INFORMATION CENTER DURING A
CRISIS.

CRISIS.
>> ONCE WE RECEIVE A CALL THAT

>> ONCE WE RECEIVE A CALL THAT
THERE'S AN EMERGENCY WITHIN THE

THERE'S AN EMERGENCY WITHIN THE
COMMUNITY, WE START TO TRY TO

COMMUNITY, WE START TO TRY TO
UNDERSTAND WHO WE NEED TO BRING

UNDERSTAND WHO WE NEED TO BRING
IN TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS

IN TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS
CENTER.

CENTER.
TO HELP SUPPORT THAT EMERGENCY.

TO HELP SUPPORT THAT EMERGENCY.
AND EACH TIME IT'S DIFFERENT.

AND EACH TIME IT'S DIFFERENT.
EVERY TIME WE OPEN UP THE DOORS

EVERY TIME WE OPEN UP THE DOORS
AND WE STAFF THIS OUT, IT'S A

AND WE STAFF THIS OUT, IT'S A
DIFFERENT STAFFING ORGANIZATION.

DIFFERENT STAFFING ORGANIZATION.
THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE ON STAFF,

THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE ON STAFF,
WITH PIMA COUNTY IS TYPICALLY

WITH PIMA COUNTY IS TYPICALLY
THEY'RE COUNTY EMPLOYEES OR

THEY'RE COUNTY EMPLOYEES OR
THEY'RE FIRE CHIEFS OR LAW

THEY'RE FIRE CHIEFS OR LAW
ENFORCE.

ENFORCE.
OFFICERS THAT WE'VE ASKED TO BE

OFFICERS THAT WE'VE ASKED TO BE
ON OUR TEAM.

ON OUR TEAM.
SO WE'LL CALL THEM AND ASK THEM

SO WE'LL CALL THEM AND ASK THEM
TO COME IN AND HELP US SUPPORT

TO COME IN AND HELP US SUPPORT
THE INCIDENT.

THE INCIDENT.
AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE

AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE
INCIDENT IS WE'LL TYPICALLY

INCIDENT IS WE'LL TYPICALLY
BRIEF THEM OUT.

BRIEF THEM OUT.
IF THEY NEED TO HELP SUPPORT THE

IF THEY NEED TO HELP SUPPORT THE
INCIDENT, WE'LL ASK THEM TO

INCIDENT, WE'LL ASK THEM TO
STAY.

STAY.
THOSE THAT DON'T, WE'LL ASK THEM

THOSE THAT DON'T, WE'LL ASK THEM
TO GO HOME, AT LEAST MONITOR THE

TO GO HOME, AT LEAST MONITOR THE
SITUATION, AND IF IT ESCALATES,

SITUATION, AND IF IT ESCALATES,
WE'LL CALL THEM BACK AND ASK

WE'LL CALL THEM BACK AND ASK
THEM TO STAY HERE AND HELP

THEM TO STAY HERE AND HELP
SUPPORT US.

SUPPORT US.
>> IF THERE WERE ANOTHER 9/11

>> IF THERE WERE ANOTHER 9/11
TYPE TRAGEDY ON A NATIONAL

TYPE TRAGEDY ON A NATIONAL
SCALE, WOULD YOU MOBILIZE HERE

SCALE, WOULD YOU MOBILIZE HERE
LOCALLY?

LOCALLY?
>> WE WOULD.

>> WE WOULD.
WE WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT

WE WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
THE THREAT IS TO THE COMMUNITY

THE THREAT IS TO THE COMMUNITY
LOCALLY.

LOCALLY.
WE'D BRING IN OUR LAW

WE'D BRING IN OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT INTEL OFFICE AND ASK

ENFORCEMENT INTEL OFFICE AND ASK
THEM TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION

THEM TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION
THEY HAVE AND LET US KNOW WHAT

THEY HAVE AND LET US KNOW WHAT
LEVEL OF THREAT WE MIGHT BE

LEVEL OF THREAT WE MIGHT BE
FACED HERE LOCALLY AND WE WOULD

FACED HERE LOCALLY AND WE WOULD
OF COURSE START TO RELEASE THAT

OF COURSE START TO RELEASE THAT
INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC

INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC
AND REASSURE THEM, MAKE SURE OUR

AND REASSURE THEM, MAKE SURE OUR
ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ANY TYPES

ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ANY TYPES
OF LOCAL JURISDICTIONS HAVE BEEN

OF LOCAL JURISDICTIONS HAVE BEEN
BRIEFED UP ON WHAT IT IS WE MAY

BRIEFED UP ON WHAT IT IS WE MAY
BE FACED WITH.

BE FACED WITH.
IF THERE WERE A SITUATION WITH A

IF THERE WERE A SITUATION WITH A
SCHOOL SHOOTING, THIS WOULD ALSO

SCHOOL SHOOTING, THIS WOULD ALSO
BECOME THAT COMMAND POST FOR

BECOME THAT COMMAND POST FOR
RESOURCES.

RESOURCES.
>> RIGHT, YEAH.

>> RIGHT, YEAH.
>> THE COMMAND POST IS GOING TO

>> THE COMMAND POST IS GOING TO
BE LOCALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE

BE LOCALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE
OFFSITE.

OFFSITE.
THIS EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER

THIS EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER
IS HERE TO SUPPORT THE INCIDENT

IS HERE TO SUPPORT THE INCIDENT
COMMANDER.

COMMANDER.
ONCE THEY'VE EXHAUSTED RESOURCES

ONCE THEY'VE EXHAUSTED RESOURCES
OR THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS

OR THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS
THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAND

THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAND
THAT WILL WE CAN TAKE OFF THEIR

THAT WILL WE CAN TAKE OFF THEIR
PLATE, WE CAN HANDLE THAT HERE.

PLATE, WE CAN HANDLE THAT HERE.
LIKE A SCHOOL SHOOTING.

LIKE A SCHOOL SHOOTING.
THERE MAY BE SOME COMMUNITY

THERE MAY BE SOME COMMUNITY
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT NEED

MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT NEED
TO BE ADDRESSED.

TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO WE CAN START TO BRING

SO WE CAN START TO BRING
TOGETHER THE COMMUNITY MENTAL

TOGETHER THE COMMUNITY MENTAL
HEALTH ASSOCIATIONS AND HAVE

HEALTH ASSOCIATIONS AND HAVE
THEM START TO MEET AND

THEM START TO MEET AND
DETERMINE, DISCUSS HOW THEY'RE

DETERMINE, DISCUSS HOW THEY'RE
GOING TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY

GOING TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY
MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THAT WE MAY

MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THAT WE MAY
BE FACED WITH.

BE FACED WITH.
SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN

SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN
TAKE UP, THE PLATE OFF THE

TAKE UP, THE PLATE OFF THE
INCIDENT COMMANDER, THEY'RE

INCIDENT COMMANDER, THEY'RE
BUSY, FACED WITH THE INCIDENT

BUSY, FACED WITH THE INCIDENT
THEY HAVE ON HAND.

THEY HAVE ON HAND.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE
NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT

NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT
DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
>> YOUR BACKGROUND YOU SAID WITH

>> YOUR BACKGROUND YOU SAID WITH
THE TUCSON AIRPORT FIRE

THE TUCSON AIRPORT FIRE
DEPARTMENT.

DEPARTMENT.
AS A FIRST RESPONDER, HOW

AS A FIRST RESPONDER, HOW
CRITICAL ARE OPERATIONS LIKE

CRITICAL ARE OPERATIONS LIKE
THIS ONE?

THIS ONE?
>> YOU REALLY DON'T REALIZE HOW

>> YOU REALLY DON'T REALIZE HOW
HELPFUL THEY CAN BE UNTIL YOU

HELPFUL THEY CAN BE UNTIL YOU
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING

UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING
FOR YOU.

FOR YOU.
BECAUSE THE INCIDENT COMMANDER

BECAUSE THE INCIDENT COMMANDER
ON SITE IS GOING TO GO THROUGH

ON SITE IS GOING TO GO THROUGH
THEIR NORMAL PROCESS, THEY'RE

THEIR NORMAL PROCESS, THEY'RE
GOING TO MITIGATE THE INCIDENT

GOING TO MITIGATE THE INCIDENT
THEY'RE FACED WITH RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE FACED WITH RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY

THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY
NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT GO AWAY.

NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT GO AWAY.
AND THE RECOVERY PIECE IS

AND THE RECOVERY PIECE IS
SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME

SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME
BACK TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS

BACK TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS
CENTER.

CENTER.
AND THE SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL

AND THE SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES THEY MAY NOT HAVE ON

RESOURCES THEY MAY NOT HAVE ON
HAND AT THE SITE.

HAND AT THE SITE.
WE CAN START TO UNDERSTAND WHERE

WE CAN START TO UNDERSTAND WHERE
THOSE ARE AT, HOW FAST WE CAN

THOSE ARE AT, HOW FAST WE CAN
GET THEM, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR

GET THEM, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR
THEM AND START TO MOBILIZE THE

THEM AND START TO MOBILIZE THE
RESOURCES OUT TO THE INCIDENT

RESOURCES OUT TO THE INCIDENT
COMMANDER AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN

COMMANDER AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN
HAVE THOSE EN ROUTE BY THE TIME

HAVE THOSE EN ROUTE BY THE TIME
THEY ASK FOR THEM.

THEY ASK FOR THEM.
>> THE STATE OF THE ART FACILITY

>> THE STATE OF THE ART FACILITY
THAT KIND OF HELPS REPRESENT THE

THAT KIND OF HELPS REPRESENT THE
SOUTHWEST IN THAT RESPECT OF

SOUTHWEST IN THAT RESPECT OF
MANAGING CRISIS SITUATIONS.

MANAGING CRISIS SITUATIONS.
DO YOU THINK THIS IS KIND OF THE

DO YOU THINK THIS IS KIND OF THE
BE-ALL FOR SITUATIONS MOVING

BE-ALL FOR SITUATIONS MOVING
FORWARD?

FORWARD?
>> I THINK THAT THIS IS THE TYPE

>> I THINK THAT THIS IS THE TYPE
OF EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER

OF EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER
THAT EVERYONE SHOULD GO TO.

THAT EVERYONE SHOULD GO TO.
IT'S COST-EFFECTIVE.

IT'S COST-EFFECTIVE.
IT'S EASY TO MAINTAIN.

IT'S EASY TO MAINTAIN.
AND IT'S VERSATILE ENOUGH THAT

AND IT'S VERSATILE ENOUGH THAT
CAN YOU CHANGE IT DOWN THE ROAD.

CAN YOU CHANGE IT DOWN THE ROAD.
IF THE, THE WAY EMERGENCY

IF THE, THE WAY EMERGENCY
OPERATIONS CENTERS CHANGE, WE

OPERATIONS CENTERS CHANGE, WE
CAN REMODEL THIS ROOM AND USE

CAN REMODEL THIS ROOM AND USE
THE SAME SPACE, IT WILL BE COST

THE SAME SPACE, IT WILL BE COST
EFFECTIVE TO HANDLE SITUATIONS

EFFECTIVE TO HANDLE SITUATIONS
DOWN THE ROAD AS THE INCIDENT

DOWN THE ROAD AS THE INCIDENT
COMMAND DOES AND EOCs CHANGE.

COMMAND DOES AND EOCs CHANGE.
>> DO YOU FEEL IF THERE WERE A

>> DO YOU FEEL IF THERE WERE A
MASSIVE CRISIS SITUATION IN THIS

MASSIVE CRISIS SITUATION IN THIS
REGION, WE WOULD BE PREPARED FOR

REGION, WE WOULD BE PREPARED FOR
IT?

IT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> SINCE 9/11, PRESIDENT BUSH

>> SINCE 9/11, PRESIDENT BUSH
PASSED THE NATIONAL INCIDENT

PASSED THE NATIONAL INCIDENT
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT IS ALL

MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT IS ALL
FIRST RESPONDERS WILL HANDLE

FIRST RESPONDERS WILL HANDLE
INCIDENTS IN THE SAME MANNER

INCIDENTS IN THE SAME MANNER
ACROSS THE NATION.

ACROSS THE NATION.
AND REQUIRED CERTAIN LEVELS OF

AND REQUIRED CERTAIN LEVELS OF
TRAINING.

TRAINING.
SO THE FIRST RESPONDERS ARE

SO THE FIRST RESPONDERS ARE
BETTER TRAINED, BETTER EQUIPPED

BETTER TRAINED, BETTER EQUIPPED
THROUGH THE HOMELAND SECURITY

THROUGH THE HOMELAND SECURITY
FUNDING THAT WAS RELEASED DURING

FUNDING THAT WAS RELEASED DURING
2001.

2001.
WE CONTINUE TO UPGRADE OUR

WE CONTINUE TO UPGRADE OUR
EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING AS THE

EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING AS THE
FIRST RESPONDERS RETIRE OUT.

FIRST RESPONDERS RETIRE OUT.
WE TRAIN THE NEW GUYS THAT ARE

WE TRAIN THE NEW GUYS THAT ARE
COMING UP THROUGH THE RANKS.

COMING UP THROUGH THE RANKS.
AND REPLACE EQUIPMENT THAT IS

AND REPLACE EQUIPMENT THAT IS
OUTDATED AND I THINK WE'RE VERY

OUTDATED AND I THINK WE'RE VERY
WELL PREPARED TO HANDLE AN

WELL PREPARED TO HANDLE AN
EMERGENCY IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.

EMERGENCY IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
¶

¶
¶

¶
>> MUCH DIFFERENT NEWS NOW AND

>> MUCH DIFFERENT NEWS NOW AND
THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE,

THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE,
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.

CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.
ANOTHER WEEK CLOSER TO THE

ANOTHER WEEK CLOSER TO THE
GENERAL ELECTION, THINGS

GENERAL ELECTION, THINGS
STARTING TO HEAT UP.

STARTING TO HEAT UP.
WE HAD A DEBATE THIS WEEK

WE HAD A DEBATE THIS WEEK
BETWEEN THE TWO GUBERNATORIAL

BETWEEN THE TWO GUBERNATORIAL
CANDIDATES.

CANDIDATES.
>> WE HAD OUR FIRST

>> WE HAD OUR FIRST
GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE OF THE

GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE OF THE
GENERAL ELECTION SEASON.

GENERAL ELECTION SEASON.
IT MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMY

IT MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMY
AND EDUCATION CAME TO PLAY IN

AND EDUCATION CAME TO PLAY IN
THAT.

THAT.
DEMOCRAT FRED DUVALL SAYS REALLY

DEMOCRAT FRED DUVALL SAYS REALLY
ONE OF THE WAYS TO FIX THE

ONE OF THE WAYS TO FIX THE
ECONOMY IS MAKE EDUCATION

ECONOMY IS MAKE EDUCATION
BETTER.

BETTER.
AND WHERE EDUCATION REALLY CAME

AND WHERE EDUCATION REALLY CAME
IN WAS THE K-12 FUNDING THAT THE

IN WAS THE K-12 FUNDING THAT THE
JUDGES RULED THE STATE OWES TO

JUDGES RULED THE STATE OWES TO
THE K-12 SYSTEM.

THE K-12 SYSTEM.
DUVALL SAYS IF HE'S GOVERNOR,

DUVALL SAYS IF HE'S GOVERNOR,
THE MONEY GETS PAID RIGHT AWAY.

THE MONEY GETS PAID RIGHT AWAY.
THE REPUBLICAN SAYS SLOW DOWN,

THE REPUBLICAN SAYS SLOW DOWN,
HE WANTS TO SEE THE APPEAL OF

HE WANTS TO SEE THE APPEAL OF
THAT RULING GO THROUGH BEFORE

THAT RULING GO THROUGH BEFORE
ANY CHECKS GET RITEN.

ANY CHECKS GET RITEN.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME

SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME
DIVIDE.

DIVIDE.
>> NO REAL FIREWORKS DURING THAT

>> NO REAL FIREWORKS DURING THAT
DEBATE UP IN PHOENIX.

DEBATE UP IN PHOENIX.
BUT WE ARE SEEING THE ADS REALLY

BUT WE ARE SEEING THE ADS REALLY
RAMP UP FOR THIS RACE.

RAMP UP FOR THIS RACE.
WE ARE REALLY SEEING THE ADS.

WE ARE REALLY SEEING THE ADS.
WE HAVE DEBATE COMING UP IN

WE HAVE DEBATE COMING UP IN
SOUTHERN ARIZONA THIS WEEK.

SOUTHERN ARIZONA THIS WEEK.
I'LL BE MODERATING IT.

I'LL BE MODERATING IT.
IT'S WITH THE TUCSON HISPANIC

IT'S WITH THE TUCSON HISPANIC
CHAMBER, THE YWCA AND THE JEWISH

CHAMBER, THE YWCA AND THE JEWISH
FEDERATION OF SOUTHERN ARIZONA,

FEDERATION OF SOUTHERN ARIZONA,
LATE THEY ARE WEEK WE COULD GET

LATE THEY ARE WEEK WE COULD GET
SOME FIREWORKS, BUT WE ARE

SOME FIREWORKS, BUT WE ARE
SEEING NEW ADS AND OUTSIDE ADS

SEEING NEW ADS AND OUTSIDE ADS
COMING IN AND ATTACKING DOUG

COMING IN AND ATTACKING DOUG
DEUCY SPECIFICALLY ON COLDSTONE

DEUCY SPECIFICALLY ON COLDSTONE
CREAMERY.

CREAMERY.
>> THE QUESTION OF SOME OF HIS

>> THE QUESTION OF SOME OF HIS
DEPARTURE FROM THE COMPANY.

DEPARTURE FROM THE COMPANY.
>> HIS DEPARTURE AND SBA LOANS.

>> HIS DEPARTURE AND SBA LOANS.
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" WROTE

THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" WROTE
AN ARTICLE THIS WEEK, THE 10

AN ARTICLE THIS WEEK, THE 10
WORST-FRANCHISED COMPANIES FOR

WORST-FRANCHISED COMPANIES FOR
DEFAULTING ON SBA, SMALL

DEFAULTING ON SBA, SMALL
BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION LOANS

BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION LOANS
AND COLDSTONE CREAMERY MADE THE

AND COLDSTONE CREAMERY MADE THE
LIST OF TOP 10.

LIST OF TOP 10.
AND THAT AD GOES AFTER DOUG

AND THAT AD GOES AFTER DOUG
DEUCY.

DEUCY.
AROUND THAT ISSUE.

AROUND THAT ISSUE.
>> ALSO THE POLLS, A NEW ONE

>> ALSO THE POLLS, A NEW ONE
OUT, THEY'RE SOMEWHAT CLOSED, SO

OUT, THEY'RE SOMEWHAT CLOSED, SO
I THINK DOUG DEUCY IS IN THE

I THINK DOUG DEUCY IS IN THE
LEAD?

LEAD?
>> HE'S IN THE LEAD BY A POINT.

>> HE'S IN THE LEAD BY A POINT.
SO AGAIN A VERY CLOSE.

SO AGAIN A VERY CLOSE.
THERE WAS A POLL LATE LAST WEEK

THERE WAS A POLL LATE LAST WEEK
THAT HAD HIM UP BY 13, BUT IT

THAT HAD HIM UP BY 13, BUT IT
WAS ONLY IN CONGRESSIONAL

WAS ONLY IN CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICT 1.

DISTRICT 1.
SO THAT WAS NOT A GOOD SNAPSHOT

SO THAT WAS NOT A GOOD SNAPSHOT
OF THE WHOLE STATE.

OF THE WHOLE STATE.
NEW POLL, "NEW YORK TIMES" AND

NEW POLL, "NEW YORK TIMES" AND
CBS AND OTHERS PUT OUT, HAS IT

CBS AND OTHERS PUT OUT, HAS IT
BASICALLY TIED.

BASICALLY TIED.
SECOND POLL WE'VE SEEN THAT HAS

SECOND POLL WE'VE SEEN THAT HAS
THE RACE BETWEEN DEUCY AND

THE RACE BETWEEN DEUCY AND
DUVALL TIED.

DUVALL TIED.
>> WE'LL SEE NEW ONES AS WE GET

>> WE'LL SEE NEW ONES AS WE GET
CLOSER.

CLOSER.
>>> THAT'S OUR PROGRAM, A

>>> THAT'S OUR PROGRAM, A
REMINDER FOR YOU, I DO EXPECT TO

REMINDER FOR YOU, I DO EXPECT TO
INTERVIEW REPUBLICAN

INTERVIEW REPUBLICAN
GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE DOUG

GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE DOUG
DEUCY NEXT WEEK, WE EXPECT HIS

DEUCY NEXT WEEK, WE EXPECT HIS
INTERVIEW WILL BE FEATURED ON

INTERVIEW WILL BE FEATURED ON
THE NEXT WEEK'S PROGRAM.

THE NEXT WEEK'S PROGRAM.
FOR ALL OF US HERE AT ARIZONA

FOR ALL OF US HERE AT ARIZONA
PUBLIC MEDIA I'M LORRAINE

PUBLIC MEDIA I'M LORRAINE
RIVETTA.

RIVETTA.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.

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