WEBVTT 00:06.773 --> 00:08.773 align:start >>> A NEW YEAR BRINGS CHANGES TO 00:08.776 --> 00:11.009 align:start MEDICARE. 00:11.012 --> 00:12.110 align:start WHAT IT MEANS TO PATIENTS AND 00:12.113 --> 00:14.879 align:start THEIR DOCTORS. 00:14.882 --> 00:16.514 align:start >> I THINK MORE PEOPLE WILL BE 00:16.517 --> 00:19.717 align:start RECEPTIVE TO THE VALUE OF CARE 00:19.720 --> 00:20.651 align:start AND BE MORE RECEPTIVE TO HOSPICE 00:20.654 --> 00:22.320 align:start CARE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'LL 00:22.323 --> 00:26.591 align:start HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR 00:26.594 --> 00:28.192 align:start WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS. 00:28.195 --> 00:28.726 align:start >> PLUS, ARIZONA LAWMAKERS GO 00:28.729 --> 00:29.594 align:start BACK TO THE CAPITAL. 00:29.597 --> 00:30.828 align:start A LOOK BACK AT 2015 AND WHAT'S 00:30.831 --> 00:32.430 align:start IN STORE FOR THE NEW YEAR. 00:32.433 --> 00:32.830 align:start >> WE'RE GOING SHRINK 00:32.833 --> 00:34.032 align:start GOVERNMENT. 00:34.035 --> 00:34.932 align:start MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT. 00:34.935 --> 00:37.001 align:start >> PLUS, WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE 00:37.004 --> 00:47.745 align:start GOVERNOR'S STATE OF THE STATE. 00:54.187 --> 01:00.391 align:start HELLO AND THANKS FOR JOINING US. 01:00.394 --> 01:05.530 align:start IT'S ESTIMATED NEARLY 2 MILLION 01:05.533 --> 01:06.898 align:start MEDICAID PEOPLE WILL DIE THIS 01:06.901 --> 01:09.033 align:start YEAR. 01:09.036 --> 01:09.734 align:start MEDICARE ADDED ADDITIONAL 01:09.737 --> 01:10.401 align:start COVERAGE FOR END OF LIFE CARE 01:10.404 --> 01:14.072 align:start FOR AMERICANS 65 AND OLDER. 01:14.075 --> 01:15.373 align:start ONE POLICY CHANGE WILL ALLOW 01:15.376 --> 01:16.841 align:start PHYSICIANS ADDITIONAL 01:16.844 --> 01:17.475 align:start OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS END OF 01:17.478 --> 01:17.842 align:start LIFE PLANNING WITH THEIR 01:17.845 --> 01:18.576 align:start PATIENTS. 01:18.579 --> 01:19.277 align:start A LOOK NOW AT HOW THESE CHANGES 01:19.280 --> 01:20.812 align:start ARE IMPORTANT TO DOCTORS AND 01:20.815 --> 01:22.080 align:start PATIENTS IN ARIZONA. 01:22.083 --> 01:24.449 align:start >> HOW ARE YOU TODAY? 01:24.452 --> 01:25.550 align:start >> PRETTY GOOD. 01:25.553 --> 01:26.751 align:start THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING PRETTY 01:26.754 --> 01:28.286 align:start WELL FOR ME. 01:28.289 --> 01:29.153 align:start I'M VERY SATISFIED WITH MY LIFE 01:29.156 --> 01:32.490 align:start RIGHT NOW. 01:32.493 --> 01:33.291 align:start SOMETIMES, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE 01:33.294 --> 01:34.225 align:start TO TRAVEL. 01:34.228 --> 01:36.160 align:start I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVER 01:36.163 --> 01:37.695 align:start GOING TO BE POSSIBLE AGAIN. 01:37.698 --> 01:41.332 align:start BUT I DON'T HAVE REALLY MUCH TO 01:41.335 --> 01:42.834 align:start COMPLAIN ABOUT. 01:42.837 --> 01:43.568 align:start >> MEDICARE HAS PREVIOUSLY PAID 01:43.571 --> 01:44.302 align:start FOR PATIENTS TO HAVE AN END OF 01:44.305 --> 01:45.370 align:start LIFE PLANNING CONVERSATION WITH 01:45.373 --> 01:47.271 align:start THEIR DOCTOR JUST ONCE. 01:47.274 --> 01:49.574 align:start THIS OCCURRED DURING THEIR 01:49.577 --> 01:53.211 align:start INITIAL WELCOME TO MEDICARE 01:53.214 --> 01:53.978 align:start CONVERSATION WHEN END OF LIFE 01:53.981 --> 01:56.514 align:start ISSUES ARE THE LAST THING ON THE 01:56.517 --> 01:58.182 align:start NEW ENROLLEE'S MIND. 01:58.185 --> 01:59.684 align:start THESE TALKS CAN BE VERY 01:59.687 --> 02:01.819 align:start DIFFICULT, BUT SHOULD IDEALLY 02:01.822 --> 02:03.755 align:start LEAD TO THE COMPLETION OF STATE 02:03.758 --> 02:04.889 align:start MANDATED FORMS, CALLED END OF 02:04.892 --> 02:06.090 align:start LIFE DIRECTIVES. 02:06.093 --> 02:07.558 align:start THESE DESCRIBE THE PATIENTS 02:07.561 --> 02:10.628 align:start WISHES REGARDING THEIR OWN DEATH 02:10.631 --> 02:10.962 align:start AND DICTATE A WIDE RANGE OF 02:10.965 --> 02:13.498 align:start ACTIONS. 02:13.501 --> 02:16.334 align:start FROM TOTAL AND AGGRESSIVE 02:16.337 --> 02:18.469 align:start MEDICAL INTERVENTIONS TO DO NOT 02:18.472 --> 02:19.203 align:start RESUSCITATE OR DNR ORDERS. 02:19.206 --> 02:21.973 align:start ALL SHOULD DESIGNATE A MEDICAL 02:21.976 --> 02:23.741 align:start POWER OF ATTORNEY. 02:23.744 --> 02:26.277 align:start BEGINNING THIS YEAR, MEDICARE 02:26.280 --> 02:28.446 align:start WILL NOW PAY FOR PATIENTS AND 02:28.449 --> 02:31.616 align:start DOCTORS TO HAVE MORE OF THESE 02:31.619 --> 02:32.984 align:start SENSITIVE AND LENGTHY 02:32.987 --> 02:33.418 align:start CONVERSATIONS. 02:33.421 --> 02:34.686 align:start CONVERSATIONS. 02:34.689 --> 02:36.287 align:start >> FROM WHAT WE KNOW OF 02:36.290 --> 02:37.689 align:start PHYSICIANS AND NURSE PRAK TIGS 02:37.692 --> 02:39.824 align:start NERS THAT WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE 02:39.827 --> 02:41.559 align:start OF THIS BENEFIT, THEY'RE VERY 02:41.562 --> 02:42.827 align:start BUSY PEOPLE AND THIS ISN'T 02:42.830 --> 02:44.195 align:start SOMETHING YOU CAN JAM INTO A 02:44.198 --> 02:45.330 align:start COUPLE OF MINUTES IN HALLWAY. 02:45.333 --> 02:46.164 align:start YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOME TIME AND 02:46.167 --> 02:47.699 align:start THINK ABOUT IT. 02:47.702 --> 02:53.171 align:start THE FACT IT CAN BE REIMBURSED IS 02:53.174 --> 02:54.005 align:start A LITTLE BIT MORE DESIRABLE IF 02:54.008 --> 02:54.706 align:start YOU'RE GOING TO PLAN TO SET 02:54.709 --> 02:55.440 align:start ASIDE 30 OR 60 MINUTES WITH A 02:55.443 --> 02:56.441 align:start PATIENT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE OUT 02:56.444 --> 02:58.076 align:start A BIG PIECE OF YOUR DAY. 02:58.079 --> 02:59.977 align:start JUST SEEMS A NATURAL THING. 02:59.980 --> 03:02.413 align:start >> DAVID IS THE MEDICARE 03:02.416 --> 03:03.214 align:start REGIONAL ADMINISTRATOR FOR 03:03.217 --> 03:04.916 align:start DISTRICT NINE. 03:04.919 --> 03:06.818 align:start HEADQUARTERED IN SAN FRANCISCO, 03:06.821 --> 03:08.052 align:start CALIFORNIA, DISTRICT NINE 03:08.055 --> 03:11.189 align:start INCLUDES CALIFORNIA, NEVADA, 03:11.192 --> 03:15.059 align:start HAWAII AND ARIZONA. 03:15.062 --> 03:16.527 align:start >> IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 03:16.530 --> 03:17.595 align:start PATIENT WANTS TO DO AT THE TIME 03:17.598 --> 03:19.998 align:start THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION 03:20.001 --> 03:22.367 align:start AND SHE'S NOT ABLE TO TELL US, 03:22.370 --> 03:22.667 align:start HOW COULD IT BE PATIENT CENTERED 03:22.670 --> 03:24.202 align:start CARE? 03:24.205 --> 03:25.837 align:start SO, I THINK IT'S ABOUT FAMILIES 03:25.840 --> 03:27.138 align:start AND PATIENTS AND ABOUT 03:27.141 --> 03:28.272 align:start PHYSICIANS BEING MORE 03:28.275 --> 03:29.173 align:start COMFORTABLE AND NOT HAVING TO 03:29.176 --> 03:30.842 align:start GUESS OR DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES 03:30.845 --> 03:31.909 align:start HOW TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT 03:31.912 --> 03:34.278 align:start TREATMENTS TO GIVE PEOPLE. 03:34.281 --> 03:36.514 align:start >> THE WAY REIMBURSEMENT IS NOW, 03:36.517 --> 03:37.915 align:start IT'S MORE BASED ON QUANTITY, THE 03:37.918 --> 03:39.550 align:start NUMBER OF PATIENTS WE SEE. 03:39.553 --> 03:45.156 align:start HOW QUICKLY YOU SEE THEM. 03:45.159 --> 03:48.793 align:start BUT THERE'S BEEN A REAL SHIFT 03:48.796 --> 03:49.527 align:start MORE TOWARDS VALUE BASED CARE. 03:49.530 --> 03:51.162 align:start THE CARE YOU PROVIDE QUALITY 03:51.165 --> 03:53.331 align:start CARE AND COST EFFECTIVE CARE AS 03:53.334 --> 03:55.033 align:start WELL. 03:55.036 --> 03:57.168 align:start I THINK THIS IS A MIND, I THINK, 03:57.171 --> 04:01.205 align:start TO BEGIN REIMBURSE PHYSICIANS TO 04:01.208 --> 04:01.572 align:start SIT DOWN AND SPEND THE TIME WITH 04:01.575 --> 04:02.273 align:start PATIENTS. 04:02.276 --> 04:05.376 align:start I THINK MOST PHYSICIANS WOULD 04:05.379 --> 04:10.682 align:start WANT THAT. 04:10.685 --> 04:13.751 align:start >> DR. GOBI IS WITH THE HOSPICE 04:13.754 --> 04:15.386 align:start OF THE VALLEY IN FEEPICS. 04:15.389 --> 04:17.055 align:start >> IF THAT CONVERSATION ISN'T 04:17.058 --> 04:18.156 align:start HAD, IT'S ASSUMED THAT THE 04:18.159 --> 04:19.657 align:start PATIENT WOULD WANT EVERYTHING. 04:19.660 --> 04:20.558 align:start AS A MEDICAL SYSTEM, THAT'S THE 04:20.561 --> 04:22.393 align:start WAY WE'RE DESIGNED. 04:22.396 --> 04:25.663 align:start IF PATIENT COMES IN, WE'LL 04:25.666 --> 04:26.464 align:start CONTINUE TO TREAT, CONTINUE TO 04:26.467 --> 04:30.134 align:start AGGRESSIVELY TREAT UNTIL SOMEONE 04:30.137 --> 04:32.103 align:start SAYS TO STOP THAT TREATMENT. 04:32.106 --> 04:34.672 align:start IF IT'S NOT IN WRITING, IT'S 04:34.675 --> 04:36.007 align:start VERY DIFFICULT, SO, IF THERE'S A 04:36.010 --> 04:37.842 align:start SITUATION WHERE A PATIENT IS 04:37.845 --> 04:40.178 align:start UNABLE TO COMMUNICATE, THEN IT 04:40.181 --> 04:40.978 align:start GOES TO THE NEXT, TO A 04:40.981 --> 04:43.214 align:start SURROGATE. 04:43.217 --> 04:44.048 align:start IDEALLY, YOU HAVE A MEDICAL 04:44.051 --> 04:45.817 align:start POWER OF ATTORNEY. 04:45.820 --> 04:47.819 align:start IF WROU DON'T HAVE PAPER WORK, 04:47.822 --> 04:48.920 align:start IT FALLS TO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS 04:48.923 --> 04:50.655 align:start AND THAT'S A DIFFICULT PLACE TO 04:50.658 --> 04:52.623 align:start PUT A FAMILY MEMBER. 04:52.626 --> 04:54.158 align:start THERE COULD BE A LOT OF GUILT 04:54.161 --> 04:59.063 align:start SURROUNDING THOSE DECISIONS. 04:59.066 --> 05:00.531 align:start ESPECIALLY IF A CONVERSATION 05:00.534 --> 05:02.166 align:start HADN'T HAVE BEEN HAD PRIOR. 05:02.169 --> 05:02.900 align:start >> THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF. 05:02.903 --> 05:08.139 align:start THE WHOLE HOSPITAL, REHAB, ALL 05:08.142 --> 05:12.577 align:start THAT STUFF. 05:12.580 --> 05:18.549 align:start I DON'T WANT TO BE A MAJOR 05:18.552 --> 05:19.050 align:start DISTRACTION IN A NEGATIVE SENSE 05:19.053 --> 05:19.584 align:start SH TO MY DAUGHTER. 05:19.587 --> 05:20.318 align:start >> BUT HAVING NIESE 05:20.321 --> 05:21.185 align:start CONVERSATIONS ALLOWS PEOPLE TO 05:21.188 --> 05:22.220 align:start BE ABLE TO MAKE A MORE INFORMED 05:22.223 --> 05:24.956 align:start DECISION WHEN THEY GET INTO THE 05:24.959 --> 05:28.292 align:start HOSPITAL WHEN SOME OF THESE 05:28.295 --> 05:30.294 align:start ISSUES MA OCCUR AND FOR SOME, 05:30.297 --> 05:31.429 align:start WE'VE PREVENTED THAT LAST 05:31.432 --> 05:32.230 align:start HOSPITALIZATION AND WE'VE 05:32.233 --> 05:33.031 align:start DISCUSSED SOME OF THESE 05:33.034 --> 05:34.799 align:start CONDITIONS AND UNFORTUNATELY, 05:34.802 --> 05:36.534 align:start THERE'S NOT A CURE. 05:36.537 --> 05:38.703 align:start THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. 05:38.706 --> 05:41.606 align:start THEY'RE TREATABLE, BUT NOT 05:41.609 --> 05:42.273 align:start CURABLE. 05:42.276 --> 05:42.573 align:start KNOWING THAT, WHAT ARE YOU 05:42.576 --> 05:44.609 align:start GOALS? 05:44.612 --> 05:47.845 align:start WHAT ARE YOUR HOPES? 05:47.848 --> 05:48.780 align:start >> WELL, I'M NOT AFRAID OF MUCH. 05:48.783 --> 05:50.214 align:start AT THIS POINT. 05:50.217 --> 05:52.216 align:start >> HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT 05:52.219 --> 05:52.650 align:start YOU WOULD WANT IF THE DISEASE 05:52.653 --> 05:53.317 align:start DID PROGRESS? 05:53.320 --> 05:59.691 align:start >> I WOULD WANT TO GO INTO 05:59.694 --> 06:00.958 align:start HOSPICE. 06:00.961 --> 06:02.794 align:start >> NEARLY HALF OF ALL MEDICARE 06:02.797 --> 06:03.961 align:start BENEFICIARIES DIE WHILE ENROLLED 06:03.964 --> 06:06.397 align:start IN HOSPICE. 06:06.400 --> 06:09.901 align:start THAT'S TWICE THE NUMBER 15 YEARS 06:09.904 --> 06:11.602 align:start AGO. 06:11.605 --> 06:13.538 align:start MOST OFTEN, HOSPICE CARE IS 06:13.541 --> 06:14.272 align:start PROVIDED AT HOME. 06:14.275 --> 06:17.075 align:start THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 90 06:17.078 --> 06:18.776 align:start HOSPICE PROVIDERS IN ARIZONA. 06:18.779 --> 06:22.647 align:start >> HOSPICE IS SPECIALIZED CARE 06:22.650 --> 06:23.014 align:start FOR PATIENTS WITH A TERMINAL 06:23.017 --> 06:24.782 align:start DIAGNOSIS. 06:24.785 --> 06:26.384 align:start SO, FOR A PATIENT TO GET THE 06:26.387 --> 06:28.119 align:start BENEFITS OF HOSPICE, TWO FI 06:28.122 --> 06:29.320 align:start SAGSS NEED TO STATE THAT A 06:29.323 --> 06:32.156 align:start PATIENT IN THEIR BEST 06:32.159 --> 06:32.457 align:start ESTIMATION, HAS SIX MONTHS OR 06:32.460 --> 06:34.258 align:start LESS. 06:34.261 --> 06:37.628 align:start THE GOAL IS TO FOCUS ON 06:37.631 --> 06:38.262 align:start IMPROVING OR MAINTAINING A 06:38.265 --> 06:40.231 align:start PATIENT'S QUALITY OF LIFE. 06:40.234 --> 06:40.965 align:start AND ALLOWING THEM TO LIVE WELL 06:40.968 --> 06:47.572 align:start IN THE DAYS OR MONTHS THAT THEY 06:47.575 --> 06:48.306 align:start HAVE LEFT. 06:48.309 --> 06:49.040 align:start WITH HOSPICE CARE, PATIENT DOES 06:49.043 --> 06:52.043 align:start NEED TO GIVE UP AGGRESSIVE CARE. 06:52.046 --> 06:55.513 align:start TO RECEIVE HOSPICE CARE. 06:55.516 --> 06:56.214 align:start >> FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A 06:56.217 --> 06:56.848 align:start TERMINAL ILLNESS, THERE IS A 06:56.851 --> 06:58.082 align:start MEDICARE BENEFIT CALLED A 06:58.085 --> 06:59.484 align:start HOSPICE BENEFIT THAT PROVIDES 06:59.487 --> 07:01.586 align:start THINGS THAT MEDICARE WOULDN'T 07:01.589 --> 07:02.720 align:start NORMALLY COVER. 07:02.723 --> 07:03.855 align:start THAT IS A VALUABLE SERVICE. 07:03.858 --> 07:04.756 align:start WE DON'T THINK ENOUGH PEOPLE 07:04.759 --> 07:06.457 align:start TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. 07:06.460 --> 07:08.793 align:start MANY ONLY DO IT AT THE VERY END 07:08.796 --> 07:10.595 align:start OF THEIR LIFE BECAUSE THEY VIEW 07:10.598 --> 07:14.532 align:start IT AS SORT OF THROWING IN THE 07:14.535 --> 07:15.266 align:start TOWEL IF YOU WILL BECAUSE THE 07:15.269 --> 07:15.900 align:start WAY THE LAW IS CONSTRUCTED, WHEN 07:15.903 --> 07:16.701 align:start YOU OPT TO RECEIVE THOSE 07:16.704 --> 07:18.836 align:start BENEFITS, YOU'RE NO LONGER 07:18.839 --> 07:22.607 align:start GETTING THE OTHER BENEFITS LIKE 07:22.610 --> 07:23.307 align:start CHEMOTHERAPY, RADIATION, THAT 07:23.310 --> 07:23.608 align:start MIGHT BE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR 07:23.611 --> 07:24.342 align:start LIFE. 07:24.345 --> 07:25.176 align:start >> ALTHOUGH THEY USE DIFFERENT 07:25.179 --> 07:26.944 align:start TERMS, ANOTHER BENEFIT IS THE 07:26.947 --> 07:27.745 align:start PRACTICE OF PALTIVE CARE OR 07:27.748 --> 07:29.647 align:start COMFORT CARE. 07:29.650 --> 07:30.381 align:start >> GO UP THE CALF IN. 07:30.384 --> 07:33.217 align:start >> RIGHT HERE. 07:33.220 --> 07:39.424 align:start >> SO, PALTIVE CARE IS NOT 07:39.427 --> 07:39.957 align:start NECESSARILY FWEERED TOWARDS 07:39.960 --> 07:40.625 align:start CURING THE DISEASE. 07:40.628 --> 07:41.359 align:start SIMILAR TO HOSPICE, IT CAN 07:41.362 --> 07:43.027 align:start ADDRESS THE PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL 07:43.030 --> 07:45.630 align:start AND SOCIAL NEEDS OF A TERMINAL 07:45.633 --> 07:48.766 align:start DIAGNOSIS OR A SERIOUS ILLNESS. 07:48.769 --> 07:50.268 align:start MOST IMPORTANT IS -- IS THAT YOU 07:50.271 --> 07:51.302 align:start CAN CONTINUE WITH AGGRESSIVE 07:51.305 --> 07:52.737 align:start TREATMENTS WHILE YOU GET PALTIVE 07:52.740 --> 07:54.939 align:start CARE. 07:54.942 --> 07:58.009 align:start SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT INSTATE 07:58.012 --> 07:59.644 align:start CANCER PATIENT CAN CONTINUE 07:59.647 --> 08:03.815 align:start CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION AND 08:03.818 --> 08:04.549 align:start GET CONCURRENT CARE. 08:04.552 --> 08:05.817 align:start END STAGE KIDNEY DISEASE PATIENT 08:05.820 --> 08:06.184 align:start CAN CONTINUE DIAL SIS AND STILL 08:06.187 --> 08:08.353 align:start GET CARE. 08:08.356 --> 08:10.154 align:start THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. 08:10.157 --> 08:12.724 align:start PALTIVE CARE IS NOT ALWAYS 08:12.727 --> 08:15.193 align:start HOSPICE CARE, BUT HOSPICE CARE 08:15.196 --> 08:17.061 align:start IS PALTIVE CARE. 08:17.064 --> 08:21.766 align:start >> MEDICARE DOES PAY FOR PALTIVE 08:21.769 --> 08:23.368 align:start CARE DURING HOSPICE, HOWEVER, 08:23.371 --> 08:24.102 align:start THE INABILITY TO PAY FOR 08:24.105 --> 08:26.738 align:start MEDICARE TO PAY FOR CURATIVE OR 08:26.741 --> 08:27.438 align:start AGGRESSIVE CARE IN CONJUNCTION 08:27.441 --> 08:29.374 align:start WITH HOSPICE CARE HAS LED TO 08:29.377 --> 08:29.674 align:start ANOTHER CHANGE BEGINNING IN 08:29.677 --> 08:33.845 align:start 2016. 08:33.848 --> 08:34.545 align:start A MULTIYEAR STUDY IS NOW 08:34.548 --> 08:35.179 align:start UNDERWAY AT OVER 140 HOSPICES 08:35.182 --> 08:36.314 align:start NATIONWIDE LOOKING AT THE 08:36.317 --> 08:38.983 align:start POSSIBILITY OF PROVIDING BOTH 08:38.986 --> 08:40.685 align:start KINDS OF CARE TO BENEFICIARIES. 08:40.688 --> 08:43.888 align:start >> THIS PROGRAM, THE MEDICARE 08:43.891 --> 08:45.223 align:start CARE CHOICES MODEL, WILL ALLOW 08:45.226 --> 08:47.625 align:start PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED 08:47.628 --> 08:48.793 align:start WITH A TERMINAL DISEASE TO 08:48.796 --> 08:50.395 align:start CONTINUE CURATIVE TREATMENT FOR 08:50.398 --> 08:53.631 align:start THEIR DISEASE AND AT THE SAME 08:53.634 --> 08:55.299 align:start TIME, ACCESS SOME OF THE PALTIVE 08:55.302 --> 08:57.835 align:start CARE BENEFITS OF THE MEDICARE 08:57.838 --> 08:59.437 align:start HOSPICE BENEFIT LIKE SOCIAL WORK 08:59.440 --> 09:04.676 align:start COUNSELING, LIKE COUNSELING FOR 09:04.679 --> 09:07.945 align:start THE FAMILY. 09:07.948 --> 09:09.681 align:start LIKE SOME -- AT THE SAME TIME, 09:09.684 --> 09:11.516 align:start NORMALLY CEASE THE CURATIVE 09:11.519 --> 09:11.883 align:start TREATMENT AND GO INTO THE 09:11.886 --> 09:16.287 align:start HOSPITAL. 09:16.290 --> 09:17.021 align:start WHAT WE BELIEVE IS WE LIKE TO 09:17.024 --> 09:17.722 align:start DETERMINE IS GIVING THIS FULLER, 09:17.725 --> 09:21.092 align:start RICHER SETS OF BENEFITS, WILL 09:21.095 --> 09:21.759 align:start RESOLVE IN A BETTER PATIENT 09:21.762 --> 09:23.528 align:start CENTERED EXPERIENCE FOR THE 09:23.531 --> 09:27.231 align:start PATIENT AND FAMILY CARE GIVERS 09:27.234 --> 09:27.832 align:start AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. 09:27.835 --> 09:31.035 align:start >> DON'T YOU LOOK CUTE. 09:31.038 --> 09:35.239 align:start HI. 09:35.242 --> 09:36.007 align:start LOOK AT GWINN. 09:36.010 --> 09:36.641 align:start >> THE CARE CHOICES MODEL ALLOWS 09:36.644 --> 09:40.578 align:start FOR A PATIENT TO HAVE, TO 09:40.581 --> 09:43.881 align:start CONTINUE WITH THEIR AGGRESSIVE 09:43.884 --> 09:44.615 align:start CARE. 09:44.618 --> 09:47.685 align:start THE CURRENT PATH OF CARE, SO, 09:47.688 --> 09:48.419 align:start THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA. 09:48.422 --> 09:49.721 align:start SO A PATIENT AT THIS TIME WOULD 09:49.724 --> 09:51.689 align:start HAVE TO QUALIFY TR HOSPICE, SO, 09:51.692 --> 09:54.859 align:start AGAIN, PATIENT THAT WOULD HAVE 09:54.862 --> 09:56.728 align:start POTENTIALLY AGAIN, BEST 09:56.731 --> 10:01.899 align:start ESTIMATION OF A PHYSICIAN, SIX 10:01.902 --> 10:02.433 align:start MONTHS OR LESS, SO THEY'RE 10:02.436 --> 10:03.167 align:start HOSPICE APPROPRIATE. 10:03.170 --> 10:03.935 align:start STILL SEEKING AGGRESSIVE CARE, 10:03.938 --> 10:04.268 align:start THEY WOULD QUALIFY TR THIS 10:04.271 --> 10:05.837 align:start PROGRAM. 10:05.840 --> 10:07.905 align:start THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE TWO 10:07.908 --> 10:10.141 align:start HOSPITALIZATIONS RELATED TO 10:10.144 --> 10:11.042 align:start THEIR GENERAL DIAGNOSIS TO 10:11.045 --> 10:14.946 align:start QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM AS WELL 10:14.949 --> 10:19.484 align:start AS THREE VISITS WITH THE 10:19.487 --> 10:19.984 align:start PHYSICIAN TREATING THAT 10:19.987 --> 10:21.085 align:start DIAGNOSIS AS WELL. 10:21.088 --> 10:22.653 align:start SO, IT WAS THE ONLY HOSPICE IN 10:22.656 --> 10:23.121 align:start ANTHONY A SELECTED FOR THE CARE 10:23.124 --> 10:28.159 align:start CHOICES PROGRAM. 10:28.162 --> 10:29.661 align:start WE'VE HAD A PALTIVE CARE PROGRAM 10:29.664 --> 10:30.895 align:start FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS. 10:30.898 --> 10:32.563 align:start >> I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN HEAR 10:32.566 --> 10:33.131 align:start OVER THIS JACKET, BUT WE'LL TRY 10:33.134 --> 10:36.968 align:start IT. 10:36.971 --> 10:37.802 align:start SPEAKING OF THAT, HOW'S THE 10:37.805 --> 10:39.837 align:start BLOOD PRESSURES BEEN? 10:39.840 --> 10:41.472 align:start >> GWINN WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE 10:41.475 --> 10:42.940 align:start MODEL TO RECEIVE CURATIVE CARE 10:42.943 --> 10:45.510 align:start WHILE ON HOSPICE. 10:45.513 --> 10:50.181 align:start SHE'S CURRENTLY UNDER THE CARE 10:50.184 --> 10:54.452 align:start OF HER OLD TWIN SISTERS. 10:54.455 --> 10:59.624 align:start >> SHE HAS NONHOGKINS LIMB FOE 10:59.627 --> 11:00.324 align:start MA, SO THEY HAVE HELPED US 11:00.327 --> 11:01.059 align:start EVALUATE AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE 11:01.062 --> 11:02.894 align:start DOING IS GOING ALONG ALL RIGHT. 11:02.897 --> 11:04.662 align:start SHE WAS IN A GROUP HOME AND SO, 11:04.665 --> 11:07.231 align:start ONCE SHE BECAME ILL, WE MOVED 11:07.234 --> 11:07.932 align:start HER OUT OF THERE AND WE MOVE HER 11:07.935 --> 11:11.536 align:start BETWEEN OUR TWO HOUSES AS OUR 11:11.539 --> 11:14.005 align:start SCHEDULE WORKS FOR US. 11:14.008 --> 11:16.274 align:start DEPENDING ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. 11:16.277 --> 11:17.575 align:start SO, USUALLY, SHE PENDS TWO WEEKS 11:17.578 --> 11:19.644 align:start AT ONE HOUSE AND TWO IN ANOTHER 11:19.647 --> 11:24.749 align:start AND SO FAR, SHE'S BEEN VERY 11:24.752 --> 11:25.149 align:start HAPPY WITH MOVING IN BETWEEN. 11:25.152 --> 11:25.783 align:start THE HOUSES. 11:25.786 --> 11:26.617 align:start AND I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW 11:26.620 --> 11:32.390 align:start SPECIFICALLY THE DIFFERENCE 11:32.393 --> 11:32.690 align:start BETWEEN PALTIVE CARE AND HOSPICE 11:32.693 --> 11:33.358 align:start CARE. 11:33.361 --> 11:34.092 align:start IN FACT, THAT WAS ONE OF MY 11:34.095 --> 11:34.959 align:start FIRST QUESTIONS THE FIRST TIME 11:34.962 --> 11:37.562 align:start THEY CAME WAS, IF WE CHOOSE 11:37.565 --> 11:40.064 align:start PALTIVE CARE, CAN SHE STILL 11:40.067 --> 11:44.502 align:start CONTINUE TO BE TREATED? 11:44.505 --> 11:46.137 align:start I WANTED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE IF 11:46.140 --> 11:46.504 align:start THEY WOULDN'T, WE WEREN'T READY 11:46.507 --> 11:47.171 align:start FOR THAT. 11:47.174 --> 11:49.574 align:start THAT SHE COULD CONTINUE ON 11:49.577 --> 11:51.476 align:start MEDICATION. 11:51.479 --> 11:52.210 align:start THAT THEY WOULD TREAT THE 11:52.213 --> 11:54.946 align:start SITUATION THAT WAS OCCURRING AND 11:54.949 --> 11:57.215 align:start IT WAS TO BE OUR CHOICE. 11:57.218 --> 11:58.950 align:start AND WE WANTED TO CONTINUE. 11:58.953 --> 11:59.350 align:start WE WANTED TO TRY THIS NEW 11:59.353 --> 12:04.188 align:start MEDICATION. 12:04.191 --> 12:04.922 align:start >> KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE AN 12:04.925 --> 12:05.656 align:start OPTION, THEY DON'T HAVE TO 12:05.659 --> 12:06.391 align:start CHOOSE ONE OR ANOTHER, I THINK 12:06.394 --> 12:06.691 align:start THEY'LL BE MORE OPEN TO PALTIVE 12:06.694 --> 12:07.458 align:start CARE. 12:07.461 --> 12:10.561 align:start I ALSO THINK IN THE LONG RUN, 12:10.564 --> 12:12.230 align:start THEY'LL BE MORE OPEN TO HOSPICE 12:12.233 --> 12:13.498 align:start CARE BECAUSE I THINK MANY THINK 12:13.501 --> 12:15.533 align:start HOSPICE CARE IS A PLACE WHERE 12:15.536 --> 12:17.935 align:start YOU GO AND YOU DIE. 12:17.938 --> 12:19.404 align:start WHERE IT'S A PHILOSOPHY OF CARE. 12:19.407 --> 12:21.072 align:start FOR PATIENTS, MAJORITY OF THE 12:21.075 --> 12:23.207 align:start PATIENTS END UP AT HOME. 12:23.210 --> 12:24.776 align:start THEY DIE AT HOME. 12:24.779 --> 12:26.711 align:start SO, I THINK MORE PEOPLE WILL BE 12:26.714 --> 12:28.179 align:start RECEPTIVE TO PALTIVE CARE. 12:28.182 --> 12:31.349 align:start BUT I THINK ALSO IN TURN, MORE 12:31.352 --> 12:33.151 align:start PEOPLE WILL END UP BEING MORE 12:33.154 --> 12:34.552 align:start RECEPTIVE TO HOSPICE CARE AS 12:34.555 --> 12:35.486 align:start WELL BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE A 12:35.489 --> 12:35.753 align:start BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT 12:35.756 --> 12:42.894 align:start IS. 12:42.897 --> 12:43.628 align:start >> SYSTEM OF THE MEDICARE CARE 12:43.631 --> 12:44.329 align:start CHOICES STUDY SITES WILL START 12:44.332 --> 12:44.829 align:start TO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT FROM 12:44.832 --> 12:45.563 align:start MEDICARE IN 2016. 12:45.566 --> 12:47.832 align:start THE OTHERS INCLUDING HOSPICE OF 12:47.835 --> 12:51.502 align:start THE VALLEY, WON'T GET 12:51.505 --> 12:52.103 align:start REIMBURSEMENTS UNTIL 2018, BUT 12:52.106 --> 12:52.737 align:start THEY HAVE ALREADY BEGUN 12:52.740 --> 12:58.409 align:start PROVIDING DUAL CARE. 12:58.412 --> 12:59.110 align:start >> WE ARE THE LARGEST NOT FOR 12:59.113 --> 13:00.712 align:start PROFIT HOSPICE IN ARIZONA, SO 13:00.715 --> 13:03.748 align:start WE'RE ABLE TO EVEN FUND THIS 13:03.751 --> 13:04.849 align:start WHEN MEDICARE WASN'T PAYING FOR 13:04.852 --> 13:07.919 align:start THIS. 13:07.922 --> 13:08.586 align:start RECENTLY, WE'VE HAD SOME 13:08.589 --> 13:09.053 align:start RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEDICARE 13:09.056 --> 13:10.822 align:start ADVANTAGE PLANS. 13:10.825 --> 13:11.723 align:start THAT ARE PAYING FOR THIS. 13:11.726 --> 13:13.925 align:start >> PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES 13:13.928 --> 13:17.228 align:start CAN OFFER A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE 13:17.231 --> 13:18.763 align:start PLAN. 13:18.766 --> 13:19.497 align:start THIS KIND OF PLAN TRT KRTHS WITH 13:19.500 --> 13:20.231 align:start MEDICARE TO PROVIDE A PATIENT'S 13:20.234 --> 13:21.733 align:start TOTAL MEDICARE BENEFITS THROUGH 13:21.736 --> 13:24.502 align:start THEIR COMPANY. 13:24.505 --> 13:27.171 align:start EVEN BEFORE THE 2016 MEDICARE 13:27.174 --> 13:31.576 align:start CARE CHOICES PROJECT, SIGONA 13:31.579 --> 13:32.310 align:start PARTNERED WITH HOSPICE OF THE 13:32.313 --> 13:33.511 align:start VALLEY TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY 13:33.514 --> 13:35.747 align:start OF OFFERING THESE DUAL BENEFITS. 13:35.750 --> 13:37.415 align:start >> WE IN THE MEDICAL GROUP 13:37.418 --> 13:38.816 align:start ESTABLISHED A PILOT PROJECT 13:38.819 --> 13:40.351 align:start ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. 13:40.354 --> 13:42.086 align:start AGAIN, WE IDENTIFIED THERE WERE 13:42.089 --> 13:44.055 align:start A LOT OF PATIENTS WHO SEEMED TO 13:44.058 --> 13:45.390 align:start HAVE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL 13:45.393 --> 13:48.559 align:start LEVELS OF SERVICE TO ADDRESS 13:48.562 --> 13:50.094 align:start THEIR SERIOUS AND CHRONIC 13:50.097 --> 13:51.863 align:start MEDICAL CONDITIONS THAT WE 13:51.866 --> 13:52.630 align:start COULDN'T MEET NECESSARILY IN THE 13:52.633 --> 13:56.100 align:start CLINIC OR THROUGH THE HOSPITAL 13:56.103 --> 13:56.901 align:start AND WE REALLY WANTED TO TRY TO 13:56.904 --> 13:58.536 align:start DEVELOP A CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR 13:58.539 --> 13:59.237 align:start THOSE PATIENTS THAT INCLUDED A 13:59.240 --> 14:01.906 align:start HOME BASED PROJECT OR A HOME 14:01.909 --> 14:06.177 align:start BASED LEVEL OF CARE. 14:06.180 --> 14:06.811 align:start BEING IN THE PALTIVE CARE 14:06.814 --> 14:07.412 align:start PROGRAM DOES NOT EXCLUDE 14:07.415 --> 14:08.012 align:start CURATIVE TREATMENTS OR 14:08.015 --> 14:09.414 align:start TREATMENTS THAT INCLUDE 14:09.417 --> 14:11.916 align:start HOSPITALIZATION FOR EXAMPLE. 14:11.919 --> 14:14.185 align:start IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE A PATIENT TO 14:14.188 --> 14:15.286 align:start DISENGAGE FROM THEIR PRIMARY 14:15.289 --> 14:18.156 align:start PHYSICIAN OR SPECIALIST. 14:18.159 --> 14:19.557 align:start THEY CAN ACCESS ALL OF THOSE 14:19.560 --> 14:20.291 align:start SERVICES WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, 14:20.294 --> 14:22.460 align:start RECEIVING COMFORT CARE IN THEIR 14:22.463 --> 14:23.795 align:start HOME. 14:23.798 --> 14:24.829 align:start IT IS A STANDARD PRACTICE FOR 14:24.832 --> 14:26.831 align:start THE MEDICAL GROUP NOW. 14:26.834 --> 14:27.765 align:start WE ACTUALLY MOVED FROM OUR PILOT 14:27.768 --> 14:28.499 align:start PROGRAM WITHIN A COUPLE OF 14:28.502 --> 14:30.401 align:start MONTHS BECAUSE IT WAS SIMPLY SO 14:30.404 --> 14:33.037 align:start SUCCESSFUL. 14:33.040 --> 14:33.938 align:start WE HAD SUCH A REALLY 14:33.941 --> 14:34.305 align:start OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE 14:34.308 --> 14:36.040 align:start RESPONSE. 14:36.043 --> 14:36.774 align:start NOT OM FROM THE PATIENTS, BUT 14:36.777 --> 14:44.248 align:start FROM THE CLINICIANS WHO REFERRED 14:44.251 --> 14:44.615 align:start THEM. 14:44.618 --> 14:45.950 align:start >> HELLO. 14:45.953 --> 14:47.719 align:start >> LOOK AT THAT HAT. 14:47.722 --> 14:49.487 align:start >> THE MEDICARE CARE CHOICES TUD 14:49.490 --> 14:50.988 align:start DI WILL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO 14:50.991 --> 14:53.224 align:start DETERMINE THE COST, THE BENEFITS 14:53.227 --> 14:53.858 align:start AND FEASIBILITY OF PROVIDING 14:53.861 --> 14:56.527 align:start PALTIVE AND CURATIVE CARE 14:56.530 --> 14:58.029 align:start SIMULTANEOUSLY. 14:58.032 --> 15:00.631 align:start HOWEVER, SOME PATIENTS WHO WOULD 15:00.634 --> 15:03.067 align:start BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM LIKE 15:03.070 --> 15:07.739 align:start PAMELA BARNES, ARE ALREADY 15:07.742 --> 15:08.439 align:start RECEIVING THIS TYPE OF CARE AND 15:08.442 --> 15:12.176 align:start FEEL IT IS MAKING A DIF REBS. 15:12.179 --> 15:15.513 align:start >> SO, WHEN I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH 15:15.516 --> 15:16.748 align:start CANCER ABOUT THE TIME THAT MY 15:16.751 --> 15:19.250 align:start HUSBAND DIED, THEY WERE THE 15:19.253 --> 15:20.952 align:start FIRST PEOPLE THAT I CALLED. 15:20.955 --> 15:23.087 align:start BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS A MATTER 15:23.090 --> 15:25.256 align:start OF TIME THAT I WAS GOING TO NEED 15:25.259 --> 15:27.225 align:start TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE FOR ME. 15:27.228 --> 15:29.594 align:start ON A REGULAR BASIS. 15:29.597 --> 15:34.699 align:start I HAVE PANCREATIC CANCER, SO, 15:34.702 --> 15:35.600 align:start YOU KNOW, IF I DIDN'T TAKE 15:35.603 --> 15:37.001 align:start CHEMO, I WOULD PROBABLY ONLY 15:37.004 --> 15:39.804 align:start LIVE ABOUT SIX MONTHS. 15:39.807 --> 15:43.174 align:start SO, RIGHT NOW, WITH TWO LITTLE 15:43.177 --> 15:43.908 align:start GREAT GRANDCHILDREN, I WOULD 15:43.911 --> 15:45.710 align:start LIKE TO LIVE LONGER THAN THAT, 15:45.713 --> 15:48.346 align:start BUT GOD ONLY KNOWS. 15:48.349 --> 15:51.549 align:start I HATE TO RELY ON PEOPLE. 15:51.552 --> 15:52.183 align:start AT SOME POINT, I WILL HAVE TO. 15:52.186 --> 15:52.550 align:start >> AS MUCH YOU CAN DO IT 15:52.553 --> 15:54.318 align:start YOURSELF. 15:54.321 --> 15:57.488 align:start WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE PERSON. 15:57.491 --> 15:58.990 align:start NOT JUST THE CANCER OR THE HEART 15:58.993 --> 16:00.024 align:start DISEASE OR WHATEVER IT IS. 16:00.027 --> 16:01.759 align:start AND I THINK YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT 16:01.762 --> 16:02.427 align:start THEIR MENTAL STATE. 16:02.430 --> 16:07.165 align:start WE LOOK AT THEIR EMOTIONAL 16:07.168 --> 16:07.865 align:start STATE. 16:07.868 --> 16:08.466 align:start WE TRY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT 16:08.469 --> 16:08.833 align:start OTHER PEOPLE DON'T EVEN 16:08.836 --> 16:09.534 align:start CONSIDER. 16:09.537 --> 16:10.068 align:start I THINK IT'S THE WAVE OF THE 16:10.071 --> 16:12.003 align:start FUTURE. 16:12.006 --> 16:14.572 align:start AND WE'RE ALL ABOUT PREVENTION. 16:14.575 --> 16:16.607 align:start SO IT'S GOING TO SAVE IN THE 16:16.610 --> 16:20.445 align:start SO IT'S GOING TO SAVE IN THE 16:20.448 --> 16:21.112 align:start LONG RUN, THE TAXPAYERS, IF WE 16:21.115 --> 16:21.846 align:start CAN KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE 16:21.849 --> 16:22.213 align:start HOSPITAL, OUT OF THE EMERGENCY 16:22.216 --> 16:22.847 align:start ROOMS. 16:22.850 --> 16:23.581 align:start SO, I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT 16:23.584 --> 16:25.650 align:start MEDICARE WILL SEE THE BENEFIT IN 16:25.653 --> 16:26.317 align:start IT. 16:26.320 --> 16:29.587 align:start DEFINITELY A BIG SERVICE TO 16:29.590 --> 16:32.223 align:start PEOPLE WHEN THEY NEED IT. 16:32.226 --> 16:33.825 align:start >> MEDICARE CARE CHOICES MODEL, 16:33.828 --> 16:34.559 align:start I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 16:34.562 --> 16:37.362 align:start SHOWS THAT MEDICARE CARES ABOUT 16:37.365 --> 16:38.096 align:start THIS TYPE OF CARE. 16:38.099 --> 16:40.765 align:start I'M HOPING FOR GOOD THINGS FROM 16:40.768 --> 16:47.438 align:start HERE. 16:47.441 --> 16:49.140 align:start >> THAT REPORT WAS NARRATED BY 16:49.143 --> 16:49.507 align:start DESALA TELL US AND PRODUCED BY 16:49.510 --> 16:50.241 align:start TOM KOSPI. 16:50.244 --> 16:52.577 align:start THE HOUR LONG DOCUMENTARY ON END 16:52.580 --> 16:54.445 align:start OF LIFE ISSUES, PASSING ON, 16:54.448 --> 16:55.880 align:start PREMIERS FEBRUARY 22nd AT 9:00 17:00.487 --> 17:10.328 align:start >>> THE BUZZ NOW IN DIFFERENT 17:10.331 --> 17:10.995 align:start NEWS, THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE 17:10.998 --> 17:11.663 align:start BEGINS ITS REGULAR SESSION 17:11.666 --> 17:12.397 align:start MONDAY AND THAT'S WHEN THE 17:12.400 --> 17:14.599 align:start GOVERNOR DELIVERS HIS STATE OF 17:14.602 --> 17:15.333 align:start THE STATE ADDRESS. 17:15.336 --> 17:16.501 align:start FOR AN ANALYSIS, I'M JOINED BY 17:16.504 --> 17:18.002 align:start CHRISTOPHER AND HOWARD. 17:18.005 --> 17:19.604 align:start HE JOINS US FROM PHOENIX. 17:19.607 --> 17:21.873 align:start HOWARD, WE'LL START WITH YOU. 17:21.876 --> 17:26.044 align:start WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WAS THE BIG 17:26.047 --> 17:26.778 align:start STORY OF 2015 IN. 17:26.781 --> 17:29.580 align:start >> WELL, THE STORY WAS WE WENT 17:29.583 --> 17:31.315 align:start FROM A BILLION DOLL LAIR DEFICIT 17:31.318 --> 17:36.054 align:start TO ENDING THE FISCAL YEAR WITH 17:36.057 --> 17:36.788 align:start ABOUT 290 TO 325 IN THE BANK AND 17:36.791 --> 17:39.857 align:start SO, THAT LEADS TO THE BIG STORY 17:39.860 --> 17:41.759 align:start OF 2016, WHICH IS WHAT DO WE DO 17:41.762 --> 17:43.928 align:start WITH THE EXTRA MONEY? 17:43.931 --> 17:44.762 align:start >> NOT EVERYONE AGREED WITH IT. 17:44.765 --> 17:48.132 align:start CHRISTOPHER, WE KNOW SOME PEOPLE 17:48.135 --> 17:48.866 align:start FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT THE BEST 17:48.869 --> 17:52.704 align:start DECISION, IE, THE STATE 17:52.707 --> 17:53.805 align:start TREASURER. 17:53.808 --> 17:58.309 align:start >> EXACTLY. 17:58.312 --> 18:02.413 align:start YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROP 123 OR 18:02.416 --> 18:03.047 align:start 1230, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT 18:03.050 --> 18:03.681 align:start TO KOUBT THAT, WHERE THE 18:03.684 --> 18:04.415 align:start GOVERNOR PROPOSED AND THE 18:04.418 --> 18:06.884 align:start LEGISLATURE PASSED. 18:06.887 --> 18:07.618 align:start IT WILL TAKE MORE MONEY OUT OF 18:07.621 --> 18:09.454 align:start THE THE STATE LAND TRUST TO GIVE 18:09.457 --> 18:11.589 align:start TO EDUCATION OVER TEN YEARS. 18:11.592 --> 18:12.690 align:start JEFF DeWITT SAYS THIS IS BAD 18:12.693 --> 18:14.025 align:start FISCAL POLICY. 18:14.028 --> 18:16.461 align:start WE'RE KIND OF ROBBING THE 18:16.464 --> 18:17.495 align:start FUTURE, I BELIEVE IS THE PHRASE 18:17.498 --> 18:18.429 align:start HE'S USED. 18:18.432 --> 18:20.598 align:start IT'S ACTUALLY UP TO THE VOTERS 18:20.601 --> 18:21.332 align:start IN THE END. 18:21.335 --> 18:21.666 align:start WE'RE HAVING A SPECIAL ELECTION 18:21.669 --> 18:22.233 align:start IN MAY. 18:22.236 --> 18:24.202 align:start WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE 18:24.205 --> 18:25.470 align:start INSTITUTION TO DO THIS. 18:25.473 --> 18:28.306 align:start IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THAT'S 18:28.309 --> 18:29.140 align:start GOING TO PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN 18:29.143 --> 18:31.009 align:start A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION 18:31.012 --> 18:34.545 align:start BECAUSE PART OF THIS MONEY GOES 18:34.548 --> 18:35.780 align:start FOR SETTLING A LAWSUIT FROM 18:35.783 --> 18:37.281 align:start SCHOOLS THAT SAID THEY WERE 18:37.284 --> 18:40.485 align:start SHORTED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND 18:40.488 --> 18:44.122 align:start THE COURTS AGREED ON MONEY. 18:44.125 --> 18:44.789 align:start >> SO, CHANGING THE STATE 18:44.792 --> 18:45.957 align:start CONSTITUTION, HOWARD, WE'VE 18:45.960 --> 18:47.759 align:start HEARD THAT'S GOOD OR BAD OR 18:47.762 --> 18:50.194 align:start JUST, WHAT ARE PEOPLE SAYING AT 18:50.197 --> 18:50.862 align:start THIS POINT? 18:50.865 --> 18:52.463 align:start >> WELL, THERE'S A CERTAIN 18:52.466 --> 18:54.098 align:start AMOUNT OF SKEPTICISM. 18:54.101 --> 18:55.933 align:start ON ONE HAND, EVERYONE'S GLAD 18:55.936 --> 18:58.102 align:start THAT THIS LAWSUIT GETS SETTLED. 18:58.105 --> 19:02.907 align:start NOW, IT'S GETTING SETTLED FOR 19:02.910 --> 19:03.608 align:start ABOUT 67 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR IN 19:03.611 --> 19:04.042 align:start TERMS OF WHAT THE SCHOOLS SAY 19:04.045 --> 19:04.709 align:start THEY'RE OWED. 19:04.712 --> 19:08.179 align:start REMEMBER, THIS GOES BACK TO 19:08.182 --> 19:08.880 align:start 2000, WHERE VOTERS TOLD THE 19:08.883 --> 19:09.614 align:start LEGISLATURE YOU WILL INCREASE 19:09.617 --> 19:10.081 align:start STATE AID TO COUNTER INFLATION 19:10.084 --> 19:11.215 align:start EVERY YEAR. 19:11.218 --> 19:12.684 align:start IN 2009, THEY SAID MAYBE THEY 19:12.687 --> 19:13.384 align:start DIDN'T REALLY MEAN THAT. 19:13.387 --> 19:15.653 align:start OBVIOUSLY, THE SUPREME COURT 19:15.656 --> 19:19.157 align:start SAID YES, THEY DID AND WE'RE 19:19.160 --> 19:20.258 align:start STILL ARGUING OVER THE AMOUNTS 19:20.261 --> 19:24.028 align:start OWED, BUT THE QUESTION BECOMES 19:24.031 --> 19:24.662 align:start WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF 19:24.665 --> 19:25.830 align:start AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION. 19:25.833 --> 19:26.798 align:start I THINK A LOT OF THE CONCERN HAS 19:26.801 --> 19:28.099 align:start TO DO WITH THE TRIGGERS. 19:28.102 --> 19:30.234 align:start FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAYS WHILE WE'RE 19:30.237 --> 19:31.869 align:start GOING TO GET $3.5 MILLION OVER 19:31.872 --> 19:33.538 align:start THE NEXT TEN YEARS IN ADDITIONAL 19:33.541 --> 19:34.572 align:start MONEY, MOST FROM THE TRUST 19:34.575 --> 19:36.507 align:start CHRISTOPHER MENTIONED, THERE'S 19:36.510 --> 19:41.979 align:start ALSO THE QUESTION OF AFTER THAT, 19:41.982 --> 19:42.647 align:start THERE'S A LID ON IT. 19:42.650 --> 19:43.314 align:start IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN STATE 19:43.317 --> 19:44.349 align:start SCHOOL SPENDING HITS 49% OF 19:44.352 --> 19:45.249 align:start TOTAL SPENDING, THEY DON'T HAVE 19:45.252 --> 19:46.884 align:start TO SPEND ANYMORE ON EDUCATION 19:46.887 --> 19:48.319 align:start AND THAT LEADS TO QUESTIONS OF 19:48.322 --> 19:49.787 align:start CAN YOU GAIN THE SYSTEM? 19:49.790 --> 19:51.255 align:start IN ORDER, CAN YOU TAKE CERTAIN 19:51.258 --> 19:52.357 align:start THINGS OFF THE BUDGET TO KEEP 19:52.360 --> 19:53.491 align:start EDUCATION FUNDING DOWN AND 19:53.494 --> 19:54.158 align:start THAT'S A BIG FEAR THAT'S GOING 19:54.161 --> 19:56.861 align:start DOWN THE ROAD. 19:56.864 --> 19:58.496 align:start >> SO, MAY, WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL 19:58.499 --> 19:59.263 align:start ELECTION TO LEARN MORE ABOUT 19:59.266 --> 20:00.798 align:start THIS THEN. 20:00.801 --> 20:02.567 align:start CHRISTOPHER, ALL INDICATIONS 20:02.570 --> 20:03.968 align:start THIS WILL GO THROUGH OR WILL 20:03.971 --> 20:06.304 align:start THERE BE SOME LAST DITCH EFFORT? 20:06.307 --> 20:09.707 align:start >> THERE IS A GROUP THAT IS 20:09.710 --> 20:10.608 align:start WORKING, AN OFFICIAL GROUP WORK, 20:10.611 --> 20:11.976 align:start AGAINST IT. 20:11.979 --> 20:13.678 align:start JEFF DeWITT IS VERY MUCH AGAINST 20:13.681 --> 20:15.246 align:start IT. 20:15.249 --> 20:18.983 align:start DEAN MARTIN, WHO PROCEEDED THE 20:18.986 --> 20:19.684 align:start GOVERNOR AS TREASURER, IS IS 20:19.687 --> 20:20.385 align:start ALSO AGAINST IT CH THEY HAVE 20:20.388 --> 20:21.386 align:start BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT IT, BUT 20:21.389 --> 20:22.920 align:start THERE'S A GROUP LOBBYING FOR IT. 20:22.923 --> 20:24.756 align:start THEY RAISED NEARLY $2 MILLION 20:24.759 --> 20:25.123 align:start ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN 20:25.126 --> 20:26.557 align:start REPORTING. 20:26.560 --> 20:30.862 align:start BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR TO 20:30.865 --> 20:31.596 align:start PUSH THIS FORWARD. 20:31.599 --> 20:32.296 align:start WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF TV 20:32.299 --> 20:32.964 align:start ADS PROBABLY ABOUT THIS. 20:32.967 --> 20:37.402 align:start THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS 20:37.405 --> 20:38.136 align:start BEHIND IT. 20:38.139 --> 20:38.536 align:start O, THERE'S A LOT OF GROUND SWELL 20:38.539 --> 20:40.338 align:start BEHIND THIS. 20:40.341 --> 20:43.007 align:start WE JUST HAVE TO SEE IF THE 20:43.010 --> 20:46.077 align:start FORMER TREASURERS, NOT INCLUDING 20:46.080 --> 20:46.944 align:start THE CURRENT GOVERNOR'S ARGUMENT 20:46.947 --> 20:49.047 align:start RESOGNATE WITH PEOPLE AND IT'S 20:49.050 --> 20:52.016 align:start HOW WE MENTIONED SOME OF THOSE 20:52.019 --> 20:56.421 align:start TRIGGERS, LIKE THAT 49% TRIGGER. 20:56.424 --> 20:57.155 align:start THAT MAY RESOGNATE WITH PEOPLE, 20:57.158 --> 20:57.889 align:start ALSO, A REAL FEAR THAT MAYBE WE 20:57.892 --> 20:58.723 align:start NEED TO GET MORE THAN HALF THE 20:58.726 --> 21:01.759 align:start STATE BUDGET POTENTIALLY THE 21:01.762 --> 21:02.126 align:start EDUCATION, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE 21:02.129 --> 21:07.098 align:start TIMES ARE. 21:07.101 --> 21:07.765 align:start SO, THERE ARE A LOT OF ARGUMENTS 21:07.768 --> 21:08.066 align:start THAT STILL HAVE TO BE DEALT 21:08.069 --> 21:08.800 align:start WITH. 21:08.803 --> 21:09.500 align:start >> HOWARD, THIS WAS A BIG STORY 21:09.503 --> 21:12.870 align:start FOR 2015 AT THE END THERE. 21:12.873 --> 21:13.171 align:start WILL IT BE THE BIG STORY FOR 21:13.174 --> 21:16.641 align:start 2016? 21:16.644 --> 21:17.375 align:start >> WELL, DEPENDING ON WHETHER 21:17.378 --> 21:18.109 align:start THE LEGISLATURE IS STILL AROUND. 21:18.112 --> 21:18.543 align:start OBVIOUS, WHATEVER HAPPENS WILL 21:18.546 --> 21:19.911 align:start BE IMPORTANT. 21:19.914 --> 21:20.278 align:start BUT HERE'S WHERE IT GETS REALLY 21:20.281 --> 21:21.779 align:start SPRESING. 21:21.782 --> 21:24.315 align:start IF IN FACT YOU DECIDE TO USE THE 21:24.318 --> 21:25.516 align:start TRUST MONEY TO FUND THE SCHOOL 21:25.519 --> 21:27.919 align:start SETTLEMENT, THAT STILL LEAVES A 21:27.922 --> 21:29.253 align:start LOT OF MONEY AROUND TO DECIDE, 21:29.256 --> 21:30.555 align:start WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT? 21:30.558 --> 21:33.191 align:start NOW, I'VE TALKED TO THE GOVERNOR 21:33.194 --> 21:35.860 align:start AN HE SAID HE'S COMMITTED TO 21:35.863 --> 21:37.428 align:start DOIPG QUOTE UNQUOTE TAX REFORM. 21:37.431 --> 21:39.030 align:start ANOTHER WORD FOR TAX CUTS, WHICH 21:39.033 --> 21:40.865 align:start IS GOING TO ANGER SOME FOLKS TO 21:40.868 --> 21:42.233 align:start SAY, WAIT A SECOND, WHY ARE WE 21:42.236 --> 21:46.571 align:start TAKING MONEY OUT OF AN EDUCATION 21:46.574 --> 21:47.305 align:start TRUST ACCOUNT TO GIVE IT AWAY 21:47.308 --> 21:47.672 align:start INSTEAD TO BUSINESS AND SPECIAL 21:47.675 --> 21:48.840 align:start INTERESTS? 21:48.843 --> 21:49.140 align:start THERE'S THE QUESTION OF OTHER 21:49.143 --> 21:52.410 align:start NEEDS. 21:52.413 --> 21:54.579 align:start EVERYONE ADMIT, INCLUDES THE 21:54.582 --> 21:55.913 align:start GOVERNOR, THAT THIS $3.5 BILLION 21:55.916 --> 21:56.481 align:start DOESN'T SOLVE ALL OF THE 21:56.484 --> 21:58.616 align:start EDUCATION PROBLEMS. 21:58.619 --> 22:01.252 align:start REMEMBER, IT COMES DOWN TO ABOUT 22:01.255 --> 22:02.820 align:start $300 PER YEAR PER CHILD AND 22:02.823 --> 22:04.288 align:start GIVEN HOW FAR WE'VE FALLEN IN 22:04.291 --> 22:04.722 align:start EDUCATION RANKINGS, THAT MAY NOT 22:04.725 --> 22:05.857 align:start BE ENOUGH. 22:05.860 --> 22:07.458 align:start AND THERE'S THE QUESTION OF 22:07.461 --> 22:12.263 align:start OTHER NEEDS. 22:12.266 --> 22:12.964 align:start DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, THE 22:12.967 --> 22:13.398 align:start GOVERNOR WANTS A BORDER TAXES 22:13.401 --> 22:14.098 align:start FORCE ON THAT. 22:14.101 --> 22:14.799 align:start THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTION, 22:14.802 --> 22:19.003 align:start WHETHER WE NEED MORE PRISONS. 22:19.006 --> 22:19.737 align:start YOU HAVE THE WHOLE ISSUE OF THE 22:19.740 --> 22:20.405 align:start DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SAFETY AND 22:20.408 --> 22:22.840 align:start THE FACT THEY STILL HAVE A 22:22.843 --> 22:23.841 align:start BACKLOG OF 15,000 CASES THAT 22:23.844 --> 22:25.309 align:start HAVE GONE UNINVESTIGATED AND 22:25.312 --> 22:29.647 align:start UNTOUCHED FOR MORE THAN 60 DAYS. 22:29.650 --> 22:30.381 align:start SO, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF 22:30.384 --> 22:31.015 align:start DEMANDS ON THAT MONEY AND THAT'S 22:31.018 --> 22:31.849 align:start GOIN TO BE THE BIG STORY. 22:31.852 --> 22:32.784 align:start HOW DOES IT GET DIVIDED UP. 22:32.787 --> 22:33.351 align:start >> LET'S GO TO THE BORDER 22:33.354 --> 22:34.619 align:start STRIKE. 22:34.622 --> 22:39.657 align:start THAT'S SORT OF MADE ITS WAY IN 22:39.660 --> 22:40.391 align:start TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR 22:40.394 --> 22:41.092 align:start THERE, BUT HOW FAR DOES THIS GO? 22:41.095 --> 22:41.459 align:start IS THE MONEY REALLY THERE FOR 22:41.462 --> 22:44.996 align:start THAT NOW? 22:44.999 --> 22:45.697 align:start >> WELL, THE GOVERNOR INSISTS 22:45.700 --> 22:47.498 align:start THAT HE CAN DO SOME OF IT BY 22:47.501 --> 22:49.300 align:start MOVING THINGS AROUND WITHIN DPS 22:49.303 --> 22:51.102 align:start AND THAT SOME OF IT NEEDS NEW 22:51.105 --> 22:52.837 align:start MONEY. 22:52.840 --> 22:53.237 align:start NOW, HERE'S WHERE IT GETS 22:53.240 --> 22:54.672 align:start INTERESTING. 22:54.675 --> 22:56.374 align:start TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE MOVING 22:56.377 --> 22:58.409 align:start THINGS AROUND, YOU'RE IN A 22:58.412 --> 23:00.678 align:start SITUATION WHERE PERHAPS SAY 23:00.681 --> 23:04.649 align:start WE'LL TAKE SOME FOLKS OFF THE 23:04.652 --> 23:05.683 align:start ROAD ON HIGHWAY 0I9 OR SIERRA 23:05.686 --> 23:08.686 align:start VISTA OR I-19. 23:08.689 --> 23:09.687 align:start SO YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SO MANY 23:09.690 --> 23:11.189 align:start DOLLARS TO SPREAD AROUND. 23:11.192 --> 23:12.990 align:start SO, THE BORDER SHERIFFS HAVE 23:12.993 --> 23:15.560 align:start TOLD ME, LOOK, IF HE'S GOT EXTRA 23:15.563 --> 23:15.893 align:start MONEY FOR THE BORDER, GIVE IT TO 23:15.896 --> 23:16.294 align:start US. 23:16.297 --> 23:17.729 align:start WE'RE THERE. 23:17.732 --> 23:20.264 align:start WE KNOW HOW TO SPEND IT. 23:20.267 --> 23:24.702 align:start >> WE'VE HEARD THE TALK THAT 23:24.705 --> 23:25.403 align:start MAYBE DPS SHOULD BE BETTER 23:25.406 --> 23:26.637 align:start SERVED WORKING THE CRIME LAB. 23:26.640 --> 23:28.539 align:start WHY NOT LEAVE THE FEDS, THERE 23:28.542 --> 23:31.376 align:start ARE 4,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS. 23:31.379 --> 23:31.676 align:start WHY NOT LEAVE THE BOARER TO 23:31.679 --> 23:33.177 align:start THEM? 23:33.180 --> 23:34.212 align:start >> THE OLD ORGT WE'VE HEARD FOR 23:34.215 --> 23:37.482 align:start A COUPLE OF GOVERNORS, THE FED'S 23:37.485 --> 23:39.817 align:start JUST NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE. 23:39.820 --> 23:40.585 align:start SO, THE STATE IS GOING TO HELP 23:40.588 --> 23:44.689 align:start THEM, IF YOU WILL, AND TRY AND 23:44.692 --> 23:47.091 align:start GET THE JOB DONE. 23:47.094 --> 23:49.627 align:start AS WE'VE REPORTED AND AS HOWARD 23:49.630 --> 23:50.862 align:start MENTIONED, SOME OF THE BORDER 23:50.865 --> 23:51.863 align:start SHERIFFS, SHERIFF ESTRADA, NOT A 23:51.866 --> 23:53.431 align:start BIG FAN OF THIS. 23:53.434 --> 23:55.233 align:start HE SAYS IN HIS COUNTY, AFTER 23:55.236 --> 23:56.834 align:start 2:00 A.M., THERE ARE NO DPS 23:56.837 --> 23:58.736 align:start OFFICERS ON THE ROAD NOW. 23:58.739 --> 23:59.771 align:start WHY NOT GIVE HIM THE MONEY, LET 23:59.774 --> 24:01.339 align:start HIM HANDLE THE BORDER. 24:01.342 --> 24:07.545 align:start HE KNOWS THE BORDER. 24:07.548 --> 24:07.845 align:start HE'S A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THAT 24:07.848 --> 24:08.579 align:start AREA. 24:08.582 --> 24:15.053 align:start HIS OFFICERS, DEPUTIES KNOW WORD 24:15.056 --> 24:15.753 align:start BORDER AND LET'S PUT MORE DPS 24:15.756 --> 24:16.187 align:start OFFICERS ON THE BORDER TO DO 24:16.190 --> 24:17.155 align:start WHAT DPS DOES. 24:17.158 --> 24:18.990 align:start AND WE'VE HEARD THIS FROM A 24:18.993 --> 24:20.591 align:start NUMBER OF BORDER SHERIFFS. 24:20.594 --> 24:21.292 align:start A NUMBER OF THEM HAVE HAD 24:21.295 --> 24:22.593 align:start SIMILAR COMMENTS. 24:22.596 --> 24:24.028 align:start >> HOWARD, WE HEAR FROM THE 24:24.031 --> 24:25.797 align:start BORDER SHERIFFS, BUT HAVEN'T 24:25.800 --> 24:29.767 align:start HEARD FROM SOME OTHERS. 24:29.770 --> 24:30.601 align:start MAYBE SHERIFF PAUL BABU IN 24:30.604 --> 24:34.939 align:start PINIELLA COUNTY. 24:34.942 --> 24:36.174 align:start WE'VE NOT HEARD IT ALL FROM THE 24:36.177 --> 24:37.041 align:start AUTUMN NATION, WHICH IS A BIG 24:37.044 --> 24:41.245 align:start AREA FOR THE BORDER. 24:41.248 --> 24:42.013 align:start >> THAT'S GOING TO BE 24:42.016 --> 24:42.680 align:start INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT 24:42.683 --> 24:42.980 align:start SOME OTHER DYNAMICS AT WORK 24:42.983 --> 24:44.048 align:start THERE. 24:44.051 --> 24:47.085 align:start OBVIOUSLY, SHERIFF JOE, WHO SAYS 24:47.088 --> 24:48.586 align:start HE'S THE TOUGHEST SHERIFF THIS 24:48.589 --> 24:50.121 align:start SIDE OF O RYAN, IS A GUY WHO CAN 24:50.124 --> 24:51.155 align:start SUCK THE AIR OUT OF EVERY ROOM 24:51.158 --> 24:51.956 align:start AND DECIDE HOW HE WANTS TO SET 24:51.959 --> 24:53.591 align:start THE AGENDA. 24:53.594 --> 24:53.958 align:start NOW, PAUL IS RUNNING FOR 24:53.961 --> 24:55.793 align:start CONGRESS. 24:55.796 --> 24:59.197 align:start HE'S GOING TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF 24:59.200 --> 24:59.630 align:start THIS TO SEE WHICH WAY THE WIND'S 24:59.633 --> 25:04.135 align:start BLOWING ON IT. 25:04.138 --> 25:04.936 align:start BUT HE'S MADE IT VERY CLEAR HE 25:04.939 --> 25:05.536 align:start THINKS IT'S MORE RESOURCE IS IS 25:05.539 --> 25:06.204 align:start NEEDED FOR THE BOARD E. 25:06.207 --> 25:07.105 align:start IS THIS THE WAY OF DOING IT? 25:07.108 --> 25:08.573 align:start OF COURSE, HE'S TECHNICALLY NOT 25:08.576 --> 25:11.109 align:start A BORDER SHERIFF AND IF HE'S NOT 25:11.112 --> 25:12.810 align:start GOING TO GET ANY RESOURCE, HE 25:12.813 --> 25:13.077 align:start MAY SAY, WELL, LET'S GIVE IT TO 25:13.080 --> 25:14.612 align:start DPS. 25:14.615 --> 25:15.780 align:start >> MOVE ALONG THIS WEEK, 25:15.783 --> 25:17.382 align:start PRESIDENT OBAMA ISSUES AN 25:17.385 --> 25:19.617 align:start EXECUTIVE ORDER REGARDING GUNS. 25:19.620 --> 25:21.619 align:start HERE WE ARE ON THE FIFTH 25:21.622 --> 25:22.120 align:start ANNIVERSARY OF THE TRAGEDY IN 25:22.123 --> 25:23.621 align:start TUCSON. 25:23.624 --> 25:27.058 align:start HOWARD, WILL DOES THIS BAN ON 25:27.061 --> 25:27.392 align:start GUNS REALLY STAND HERE IN 25:27.395 --> 25:28.893 align:start ARIZONA? 25:28.896 --> 25:32.030 align:start >> WELL, FACT IS, IT'S ALL GOING 25:32.033 --> 25:33.297 align:start TO COME DOWN TO FEDERAL ISSUES. 25:33.300 --> 25:34.532 align:start THE ANTHONY A LEGISLATURE HAS 25:34.535 --> 25:36.834 align:start MADE IT CLEAR THEY DON'T WANT 25:36.837 --> 25:38.269 align:start ANY RESTRICTIONS ON GUNS. 25:38.272 --> 25:39.337 align:start IN FACT, YOU'LL REMEMBER, THEY 25:39.340 --> 25:40.672 align:start ACTUALLY HAVE PASSED LAWS 25:40.675 --> 25:41.472 align:start SPECIFICALLY AIMED AT THE CITY 25:41.475 --> 25:43.741 align:start OF TUCSON. 25:43.744 --> 25:45.276 align:start REMEMBER, TUCSON TRIED TO SAY WE 25:45.279 --> 25:45.977 align:start OUGHT TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS AT 25:45.980 --> 25:48.012 align:start GUN SHOWS AND THE LEGISLATURE 25:48.015 --> 25:51.315 align:start SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T. 25:51.318 --> 25:51.716 align:start THETY TRIED TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC 25:51.719 --> 25:55.653 align:start BUILDINGS. 25:55.656 --> 25:56.387 align:start THAT'S STILL AN OPEN DEBATE, SO, 25:56.390 --> 25:57.922 align:start WHETHER PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO 25:57.925 --> 25:59.757 align:start BRING THEIR WEAPONS INTO PUBLIC 25:59.760 --> 26:00.658 align:start BUILDINGS IF THERE AREN'T METAL 26:00.661 --> 26:02.193 align:start DETECTORS AND SUCH THERE. 26:02.196 --> 26:03.628 align:start BUT THIS IS GOING TO PLAY OUT AT 26:03.631 --> 26:05.063 align:start THE NATIONAL LEVEL. 26:05.066 --> 26:06.264 align:start NOW, OF COURSE, TO A CERTAIN 26:06.267 --> 26:08.299 align:start EXTENT, WHAT THE PRESIDENT 26:08.302 --> 26:10.368 align:start ANNOUNCED WAS NOT QUITE THE 26:10.371 --> 26:10.668 align:start EXECUTIVE EDICT THAT SOME FOLKS 26:10.671 --> 26:13.204 align:start SAID. 26:13.207 --> 26:14.706 align:start IT SIMPLY SAYS IF YOU SELL A 26:14.709 --> 26:15.673 align:start CERTAIN NUMBER OF GUNS AND HE'S 26:15.676 --> 26:16.708 align:start NEVER SAID AN AMOUNT, WE'RE 26:16.711 --> 26:18.409 align:start GOING TO CONSIDER YOU A DEALER 26:18.412 --> 26:19.911 align:start AND THEREFORE, NO HATTER WHERE 26:19.914 --> 26:23.481 align:start YOU SELL, YOU HAVE TO DO 26:23.484 --> 26:24.215 align:start BACKGROUND CHECKS. 26:24.218 --> 26:25.516 align:start AND THAT MAY REQUIRE CERTAINLY 26:25.519 --> 26:28.986 align:start LEGISLATURE IN CONGRESS 26:28.989 --> 26:29.687 align:start INCLUDING FINDING MORE ATF 26:29.690 --> 26:30.021 align:start PEOPLE TO DO THOSE BACKGROUND 26:30.024 --> 26:30.888 align:start CHECKS. 26:30.891 --> 26:31.589 align:start >> CHRISTOPHER, YOU HAD A 26:31.592 --> 26:32.490 align:start CONVERSATION TODAY ABOUT THIS. 26:32.493 --> 26:34.459 align:start >> I DID. 26:34.462 --> 26:36.194 align:start I SPOKE WITH KEN RAINIER, THE 26:36.197 --> 26:37.996 align:start EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF GUN OWNERS 26:37.999 --> 26:39.197 align:start OF ARIZONA AND OVERALL, HE SAID 26:39.200 --> 26:51.242 align:start WHAT THE PRESIDENT DOES JUST 26:51.245 --> 26:51.876 align:start TALKS ABOUT CURRENT LAW. 26:51.879 --> 26:52.577 align:start AND HE HAS A VERY SIMILAR 26:52.580 --> 26:53.311 align:start QUESTION TO WHAT HOWARD JUST 26:53.314 --> 26:53.644 align:start RAISED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL ATF 26:53.647 --> 26:54.345 align:start AGENTS. 26:54.348 --> 26:55.013 align:start BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T 26:55.016 --> 26:55.580 align:start HAVE THE BUDGETARY POWER TO 26:55.583 --> 26:56.314 align:start BRING IN MORE AGENTS. 26:56.317 --> 26:57.015 align:start THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH CONGRESS. 26:57.018 --> 26:57.382 align:start CONGRESS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR 26:57.385 --> 26:58.116 align:start THIS WEEK. 26:58.119 --> 26:58.916 align:start AT LEAST THE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS 26:58.919 --> 26:59.217 align:start OF CONGRESS HAVE BEEN CLEAR THIS 26:59.220 --> 27:00.184 align:start WEEK. 27:00.187 --> 27:01.686 align:start THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THE 27:01.689 --> 27:02.453 align:start PRESIDENT IS DOING. 27:02.456 --> 27:04.589 align:start SO, GETTING MORE AGENTS COULD BE 27:04.592 --> 27:06.290 align:start A REAL PROBLEM FOR HIM. 27:06.293 --> 27:09.260 align:start >> OKAY, HOWARD, WE'VE JUST GOT 27:09.263 --> 27:09.927 align:start A FEW SECONDS LEFT. 27:09.930 --> 27:11.929 align:start WHAT WILL WE HEAR FROM THE 27:11.932 --> 27:12.997 align:start GOVERNOR ON MONDAY IN HIS STATE 27:13.000 --> 27:15.433 align:start OF THE STATE IS THIS. 27:15.436 --> 27:17.301 align:start >> WE'LL HEAR FROM HIM ABOUT A, 27:17.304 --> 27:21.072 align:start AREN'T AGREAT, I DID SOME 27:21.075 --> 27:21.606 align:start WONDERFUL THINGS FOR THE STATE 27:21.609 --> 27:22.273 align:start OVER THE LAST YEAR. 27:22.276 --> 27:23.207 align:start B, MORE OF THE SAME COMING. 27:23.210 --> 27:24.042 align:start C, WE'RE GOING TO SHRINK 27:24.045 --> 27:24.442 align:start GOVERNMENT, RIGHT SIZE 27:24.445 --> 27:26.377 align:start GOVERNMENT. 27:26.380 --> 27:29.113 align:start MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT. 27:29.116 --> 27:30.214 align:start D, THERE WILL BE TAX CUTS. 27:30.217 --> 27:30.948 align:start AND E, I THINK YOU'LL SEE A 27:30.951 --> 27:33.251 align:start LITTLE SURPRISE IN THERE IN THE 27:33.254 --> 27:35.353 align:start AREA OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM. 27:35.356 --> 27:36.587 align:start >> OKAY. 27:36.590 --> 27:37.255 align:start HOWARD, ALWAYS TELLINGING IT 27:37.258 --> 27:39.123 align:start LIKE IT IS. 27:39.126 --> 27:43.361 align:start THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS AND 27:43.364 --> 27:43.961 align:start THANKS TO YOU AND THANK YOU SO 27:43.964 --> 27:44.696 align:start MUCH FOR JOININGING US. 27:44.699 --> 27:45.296 align:start FOR ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC