1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,045 HEAD TO THE POLLS. A POLITICAL STRATEGIST WEIGHS IN 2 00:00:13,047 --> 00:00:14,813 A POLITICAL STRATEGIST WEIGHS IN BEHIND THE SCENE ON A MIDTERM 3 00:00:14,815 --> 00:00:15,180 BEHIND THE SCENE ON A MIDTERM ELECTION. 4 00:00:15,182 --> 00:00:16,115 ELECTION. >> RIGHT NOW IT'S DIRECT CONTACT 5 00:00:16,117 --> 00:00:19,251 >> RIGHT NOW IT'S DIRECT CONTACT AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALMOST 6 00:00:19,253 --> 00:00:20,719 AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALMOST LIMITED IN THEIR RESOURCES. 7 00:00:20,721 --> 00:00:22,888 LIMITED IN THEIR RESOURCES. >>> PLUS, THE STATE'S MAIN 8 00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:24,323 >>> PLUS, THE STATE'S MAIN OFFICES UP FOR GRABS. 9 00:00:24,325 --> 00:00:26,191 OFFICES UP FOR GRABS. COULD THIS ELECTION CHANGE 10 00:00:26,193 --> 00:00:27,760 COULD THIS ELECTION CHANGE ARIZONA'S POLITICAL LANDSCAPE 11 00:00:27,762 --> 00:00:31,997 ARIZONA'S POLITICAL LANDSCAPE AND MAYBE SIGNAL A CHANGE 12 00:00:31,999 --> 00:00:32,631 AND MAYBE SIGNAL A CHANGE NATIONALLY? 13 00:00:32,633 --> 00:00:35,467 NATIONALLY? >> IF YOU HAVE NATIONAL 14 00:00:35,469 --> 00:00:37,636 >> IF YOU HAVE NATIONAL CANDIDATES DO WELL IN ARIZONA, 15 00:00:37,638 --> 00:00:39,905 CANDIDATES DO WELL IN ARIZONA, AND ARIZONA IS AN EARLY PRIMARY 16 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:42,908 AND ARIZONA IS AN EARLY PRIMARY STATE, THAT'S A MICROCOSM OF HOW 17 00:00:42,910 --> 00:00:45,344 STATE, THAT'S A MICROCOSM OF HOW WELL YOU MAY DO IN THE WEST. 18 00:00:45,346 --> 00:00:46,545 WELL YOU MAY DO IN THE WEST. >> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 19 00:00:46,547 --> 00:01:03,429 >> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." ¶ 20 00:01:03,431 --> 00:01:05,197 ¶ >> ON TUESDAY, VOTERS WILL HEAD 21 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:06,131 >> ON TUESDAY, VOTERS WILL HEAD TO THE POLLS. 22 00:01:06,133 --> 00:01:07,766 TO THE POLLS. IN FACT, MANY HAVE ALREADY VOTED 23 00:01:07,768 --> 00:01:08,700 IN FACT, MANY HAVE ALREADY VOTED BY MAIL. 24 00:01:08,702 --> 00:01:12,004 BY MAIL. MARIO DIAZ IS A POLITICAL 25 00:01:12,006 --> 00:01:14,373 MARIO DIAZ IS A POLITICAL STRATEGIST IN PHOENIX WHO HAS 26 00:01:14,375 --> 00:01:15,908 STRATEGIST IN PHOENIX WHO HAS EXPERIENCED ARIZONA POLITICS. 27 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:18,110 EXPERIENCED ARIZONA POLITICS. HE'S A DEMOCRAT WHO SAYS WE'RE 28 00:01:18,112 --> 00:01:19,578 HE'S A DEMOCRAT WHO SAYS WE'RE WITNESSING POLITICAL HISTORY IN 29 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:20,546 WITNESSING POLITICAL HISTORY IN THE STATE. 30 00:01:20,548 --> 00:01:22,247 THE STATE. WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ARIZONA'S 31 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:22,948 WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ARIZONA'S POLITICAL LANDSCAPE? 32 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:23,715 POLITICAL LANDSCAPE? WHAT'S CHANGING? 33 00:01:23,717 --> 00:01:25,317 WHAT'S CHANGING? >> WELL, I THINK WE'RE IN THE 34 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,352 >> WELL, I THINK WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A POLITICAL 35 00:01:27,354 --> 00:01:28,654 MIDDLE OF A POLITICAL TRANSFORMATION IN ARIZONA. 36 00:01:28,656 --> 00:01:31,924 TRANSFORMATION IN ARIZONA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MICROCOSM OF 37 00:01:31,926 --> 00:01:33,192 IF YOU LOOK AT THE MICROCOSM OF POLITICS, YOU LOOK AT TUCSON 38 00:01:33,194 --> 00:01:35,360 POLITICS, YOU LOOK AT TUCSON WHERE A FEW YEARS AGO YOU HAD A 39 00:01:35,362 --> 00:01:36,962 WHERE A FEW YEARS AGO YOU HAD A REPUBLICAN MAYOR AND NOW YOU 40 00:01:36,964 --> 00:01:38,964 REPUBLICAN MAYOR AND NOW YOU HAVE A DEMOCRATIC MAYOR. 41 00:01:38,966 --> 00:01:40,966 HAVE A DEMOCRATIC MAYOR. YOU HAVE A REPUBLICAN AND A 42 00:01:40,968 --> 00:01:42,234 YOU HAVE A REPUBLICAN AND A GENERALLY DEMOCRATIC AREA. 43 00:01:42,236 --> 00:01:45,003 GENERALLY DEMOCRATIC AREA. YOU LOOK AT OUR STATEWIDE 44 00:01:45,005 --> 00:01:46,271 YOU LOOK AT OUR STATEWIDE OFFICES WHERE YOU HAVE 45 00:01:46,273 --> 00:01:47,473 OFFICES WHERE YOU HAVE CANDIDATES THAT ONE COULD -- MAY 46 00:01:47,475 --> 00:01:49,274 CANDIDATES THAT ONE COULD -- MAY NOT HAVE IMAGINED A FEW YEARS 47 00:01:49,276 --> 00:01:50,876 NOT HAVE IMAGINED A FEW YEARS AGO THAT HAS A POTENTIAL OF 48 00:01:50,878 --> 00:01:53,445 AGO THAT HAS A POTENTIAL OF WINNING A STATEWIDE OFFICE AND 49 00:01:53,447 --> 00:01:55,647 WINNING A STATEWIDE OFFICE AND DR. DAVID GARCIA FOR STATE 50 00:01:55,649 --> 00:01:56,115 DR. DAVID GARCIA FOR STATE SUPERINTENDENT. 51 00:01:56,117 --> 00:01:58,317 SUPERINTENDENT. THIS IS A POLITICAL 52 00:01:58,319 --> 00:01:59,051 THIS IS A POLITICAL TRANSFORMATION HAPPENING RIGHT 53 00:01:59,053 --> 00:02:00,085 TRANSFORMATION HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES. 54 00:02:00,087 --> 00:02:01,587 BEFORE OUR EYES. >> ARIZONA HAS TRADITIONALLY 55 00:02:01,589 --> 00:02:02,855 >> ARIZONA HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN A REPUBLICAN STATE. 56 00:02:02,857 --> 00:02:04,590 BEEN A REPUBLICAN STATE. IF SOME STATE OFFICES END UP IN 57 00:02:04,592 --> 00:02:06,925 IF SOME STATE OFFICES END UP IN THE DEMOCRATIC REALM THIS 58 00:02:06,927 --> 00:02:09,228 THE DEMOCRATIC REALM THIS ELECTION, DOES THAT MEAN WE ARE 59 00:02:09,230 --> 00:02:10,863 ELECTION, DOES THAT MEAN WE ARE IN FOR A CHANGE AND ARIZONA IS 60 00:02:10,865 --> 00:02:12,498 IN FOR A CHANGE AND ARIZONA IS ABOUT TO BECOME A DEMOCRATIC 61 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:13,632 ABOUT TO BECOME A DEMOCRATIC STATE AS WE KNOW IT? 62 00:02:13,634 --> 00:02:15,934 STATE AS WE KNOW IT? >> I THINK THAT ARIZONA HAS BEEN 63 00:02:15,936 --> 00:02:17,769 >> I THINK THAT ARIZONA HAS BEEN A REPUBLICAN STATE OR DOMINATED 64 00:02:17,771 --> 00:02:20,639 A REPUBLICAN STATE OR DOMINATED BY ONE PARTY BECAUSE A DEMOCRAT 65 00:02:20,641 --> 00:02:22,374 BY ONE PARTY BECAUSE A DEMOCRAT PARTY IN A CERTAIN WAY HAS 66 00:02:22,376 --> 00:02:23,542 PARTY IN A CERTAIN WAY HAS ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. 67 00:02:23,544 --> 00:02:27,112 ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE VOTERS -- 68 00:02:27,114 --> 00:02:29,181 WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE VOTERS -- AND I SAY "WE" BECAUSE I'M A 69 00:02:29,183 --> 00:02:31,150 AND I SAY "WE" BECAUSE I'M A DEMOCRAT -- WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE 70 00:02:31,152 --> 00:02:32,451 DEMOCRAT -- WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE VOTERS CANDIDATES LIKE WE HAVE 71 00:02:32,453 --> 00:02:35,220 VOTERS CANDIDATES LIKE WE HAVE IN THE PAST FEW CYCLES, QUITE 72 00:02:35,222 --> 00:02:35,587 IN THE PAST FEW CYCLES, QUITE FRANKLY. 73 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:39,658 FRANKLY. NOW YOU HAVE TERRY GODDARD, FRED 74 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:42,661 NOW YOU HAVE TERRY GODDARD, FRED DUVAL, WE HAD JANET NAPOLITANO. 75 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:44,429 DUVAL, WE HAD JANET NAPOLITANO. SMART CANDIDATES, PASSIONATE 76 00:02:44,431 --> 00:02:45,664 SMART CANDIDATES, PASSIONATE CANDIDATES, NOT JUST A CANDIDATE 77 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:46,899 CANDIDATES, NOT JUST A CANDIDATE TO FILL THE BALLOT. 78 00:02:46,901 --> 00:02:48,233 TO FILL THE BALLOT. AND SO NOW YOU'RE SEEING THE 79 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:48,567 AND SO NOW YOU'RE SEEING THE RESULTS. 80 00:02:48,569 --> 00:02:51,436 RESULTS. WE HAVE 33% OF THE POPULATION IN 81 00:02:51,438 --> 00:02:53,539 WE HAVE 33% OF THE POPULATION IN ARIZONA AS INDEPENDENT, 33% 82 00:02:53,541 --> 00:02:55,607 ARIZONA AS INDEPENDENT, 33% REPUBLICAN AND 33% DEMOCRAT. 83 00:02:55,609 --> 00:02:56,942 REPUBLICAN AND 33% DEMOCRAT. EVERY STATE OFFICE IS IN PLAY 84 00:02:56,944 --> 00:02:57,376 EVERY STATE OFFICE IS IN PLAY RIGHT NOW. 85 00:02:57,378 --> 00:03:01,647 RIGHT NOW. >> AS A STRATEGIST, WHAT IS THE 86 00:03:01,649 --> 00:03:02,481 >> AS A STRATEGIST, WHAT IS THE MINDSET RIGHT NOW? 87 00:03:02,483 --> 00:03:06,051 MINDSET RIGHT NOW? >> THE BULK OF THE VOTERS HAS 88 00:03:06,053 --> 00:03:08,554 >> THE BULK OF THE VOTERS HAS ALREADY TURNED IN THEIR EARLY 89 00:03:08,556 --> 00:03:08,887 ALREADY TURNED IN THEIR EARLY BALLOTS. 90 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:11,023 BALLOTS. SO NOW WE HAVE THE ELECTION DAY 91 00:03:11,025 --> 00:03:13,625 SO NOW WE HAVE THE ELECTION DAY VOTERS OR THOSE HOLDING ON TO 92 00:03:13,627 --> 00:03:14,960 VOTERS OR THOSE HOLDING ON TO BALLOTS, WHICH THERE ARE STILL A 93 00:03:14,962 --> 00:03:15,694 BALLOTS, WHICH THERE ARE STILL A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. 94 00:03:15,696 --> 00:03:16,929 SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. RIGHT NOW IT'S DIRECT CONTACT 95 00:03:16,931 --> 00:03:20,132 RIGHT NOW IT'S DIRECT CONTACT AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALMOST 96 00:03:20,134 --> 00:03:22,234 AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALMOST LIMITING -- LIMITED IN THEIR 97 00:03:22,236 --> 00:03:22,601 LIMITING -- LIMITED IN THEIR RESOURCES. 98 00:03:22,603 --> 00:03:24,937 RESOURCES. SO THIS FACTOR OUTSIDE MONEY, 99 00:03:24,939 --> 00:03:27,105 SO THIS FACTOR OUTSIDE MONEY, DARK MONEY, AS WE CALL IT, AS IT 100 00:03:27,107 --> 00:03:29,041 DARK MONEY, AS WE CALL IT, AS IT HAS BEEN CALLED, IS PLAYING A 101 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:30,409 HAS BEEN CALLED, IS PLAYING A SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO SHORE UP THE 102 00:03:30,411 --> 00:03:32,344 SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO SHORE UP THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN. 103 00:03:32,346 --> 00:03:34,513 LAST TWO WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN. >> EVERY CAMPAIGN WE HEAR, EVERY 104 00:03:34,515 --> 00:03:36,782 >> EVERY CAMPAIGN WE HEAR, EVERY ELECTION SEASON WE SEE LOTS OF 105 00:03:36,784 --> 00:03:37,883 ELECTION SEASON WE SEE LOTS OF MONEY COMING IN. 106 00:03:37,885 --> 00:03:39,618 MONEY COMING IN. EVERY YEAR IT BECOMES MORE AND 107 00:03:39,620 --> 00:03:39,952 EVERY YEAR IT BECOMES MORE AND GREATER. 108 00:03:39,954 --> 00:03:41,987 GREATER. SO WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING 109 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:43,488 SO WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM AND YOU SAY DARK MONEY. 110 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:46,625 FROM AND YOU SAY DARK MONEY. >> WELL, LOOK, IT'S WHAT IT IS 111 00:03:46,627 --> 00:03:46,959 >> WELL, LOOK, IT'S WHAT IT IS TERMED. 112 00:03:46,961 --> 00:03:47,926 TERMED. I DON'T CALL IT THAT. 113 00:03:47,928 --> 00:03:49,461 I DON'T CALL IT THAT. IT LOOKS GREEN TO ME. 114 00:03:49,463 --> 00:03:51,496 IT LOOKS GREEN TO ME. BUT I WOULD SAY THERE'S JUST SO 115 00:03:51,498 --> 00:03:55,467 BUT I WOULD SAY THERE'S JUST SO MUCH VESTED INTEREST NOW IN OUR 116 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:55,767 MUCH VESTED INTEREST NOW IN OUR STATE. 117 00:03:55,769 --> 00:03:58,770 STATE. THE STATE IS GROWING. 118 00:03:58,772 --> 00:04:01,273 THE STATE IS GROWING. WE ARE TRANSFORMING OUR ECONOMY 119 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:03,909 WE ARE TRANSFORMING OUR ECONOMY FROM MORE OF A BASIC JOB ECONOMY 120 00:04:03,911 --> 00:04:05,344 FROM MORE OF A BASIC JOB ECONOMY LIKE TELEMARKETING. 121 00:04:05,346 --> 00:04:06,345 LIKE TELEMARKETING. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT 122 00:04:06,347 --> 00:04:07,846 THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BUT WE'RE TAKING IT TO A 123 00:04:07,848 --> 00:04:09,314 BUT WE'RE TAKING IT TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF HEALTH CARE 124 00:04:09,316 --> 00:04:11,450 DIFFERENT LEVEL OF HEALTH CARE TO MANUFACTURING, ELECTRONICS. 125 00:04:11,452 --> 00:04:12,751 TO MANUFACTURING, ELECTRONICS. AND SO THERE'S MORE VESTED 126 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:14,052 AND SO THERE'S MORE VESTED INTEREST IN PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING 127 00:04:14,054 --> 00:04:15,654 INTEREST IN PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DECIDE PUBLIC POLICY. 128 00:04:15,656 --> 00:04:17,723 TO DECIDE PUBLIC POLICY. AND LET ME TELL YOU, LORRAINE, 129 00:04:17,725 --> 00:04:19,625 AND LET ME TELL YOU, LORRAINE, PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THIS OUTSIDE 130 00:04:19,627 --> 00:04:21,927 PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THIS OUTSIDE MONEY BUT UNTIL IT'S NOT THE 131 00:04:21,929 --> 00:04:24,529 MONEY BUT UNTIL IT'S NOT THE LAW, THIS IS PART OF OUR 132 00:04:24,531 --> 00:04:25,330 LAW, THIS IS PART OF OUR CONSTITUTION. 133 00:04:25,332 --> 00:04:27,299 CONSTITUTION. IT'S PART OF OUR DEMOCRACY. 134 00:04:27,301 --> 00:04:28,800 IT'S PART OF OUR DEMOCRACY. WE CAN LIKE IT OR NOT BUT IT'S 135 00:04:28,802 --> 00:04:29,668 WE CAN LIKE IT OR NOT BUT IT'S HERE TO STAY. 136 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:32,471 HERE TO STAY. >> WHY DO HISPANICS IN THE STATE 137 00:04:32,473 --> 00:04:38,310 >> WHY DO HISPANICS IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN 138 00:04:38,312 --> 00:04:39,011 OF ARIZONA, WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN A L 139 00:04:39,013 --> 00:04:40,712 A L HIGH LEVEL OF POLITICAL 140 00:04:40,714 --> 00:04:41,079 HIGH LEVEL OF POLITICAL CANDIDATE? 141 00:04:41,081 --> 00:04:42,714 CANDIDATE? WHY IS ARIZONA LEFT OUT OF THE 142 00:04:42,716 --> 00:04:43,115 WHY IS ARIZONA LEFT OUT OF THE MIX? 143 00:04:43,117 --> 00:04:45,183 MIX? >> THE SOUTHWEST HAS -- WE'VE 144 00:04:45,185 --> 00:04:46,451 >> THE SOUTHWEST HAS -- WE'VE LAGGED BEHIND THE SOUTHWEST IN 145 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:46,918 LAGGED BEHIND THE SOUTHWEST IN THAT DEPARTMENT. 146 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,820 THAT DEPARTMENT. A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, 147 00:04:48,822 --> 00:04:51,323 A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, FIRST OF ALL, IF LATINOS WANT TO 148 00:04:51,325 --> 00:04:54,359 FIRST OF ALL, IF LATINOS WANT TO GET ELECTED OR LATINAS WANT TO 149 00:04:54,361 --> 00:04:56,128 GET ELECTED OR LATINAS WANT TO GET ELECTED, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 150 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:57,796 GET ELECTED, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NOW WE'RE SEEING THEM RUNNING 151 00:04:57,798 --> 00:04:59,364 NOW WE'RE SEEING THEM RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW, 152 00:04:59,366 --> 00:05:01,166 FOR OFFICE AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW, WE'RE PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL. 153 00:05:01,168 --> 00:05:02,834 WE'RE PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL. WE LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE, 154 00:05:02,836 --> 00:05:04,169 WE LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE, ACROSS THE STATE, WE'RE IN 155 00:05:04,171 --> 00:05:07,506 ACROSS THE STATE, WE'RE IN SCHOOL BOARDS, WE'RE IN COUNTY 156 00:05:07,508 --> 00:05:08,740 SCHOOL BOARDS, WE'RE IN COUNTY SUPERVISORY POSITIONS AND NOW 157 00:05:08,742 --> 00:05:10,275 SUPERVISORY POSITIONS AND NOW WE'RE RIDING FOR STATEWIDE 158 00:05:10,277 --> 00:05:10,609 WE'RE RIDING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICES. 159 00:05:10,611 --> 00:05:13,011 OFFICES. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THE 160 00:05:13,013 --> 00:05:14,646 WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THE LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY 161 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:17,549 LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND 162 00:05:17,551 --> 00:05:19,151 FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND TELLING ITSELF, WE ARE IMPORTANT 163 00:05:19,153 --> 00:05:21,753 TELLING ITSELF, WE ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS ELECTORAL PROCESS. 164 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:24,289 IN THIS ELECTORAL PROCESS. >> WHY DO HISPANICS 165 00:05:24,291 --> 00:05:25,724 >> WHY DO HISPANICS TRADITIONALLY VOTE DEMOCRATIC? 166 00:05:25,726 --> 00:05:27,893 TRADITIONALLY VOTE DEMOCRATIC? >> LATINOS HAVE A LONG HISTORY, 167 00:05:27,895 --> 00:05:30,062 >> LATINOS HAVE A LONG HISTORY, A LONG HISTORY, AS YOU KNOW, 168 00:05:30,064 --> 00:05:31,330 A LONG HISTORY, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. 169 00:05:31,332 --> 00:05:33,332 WITH THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. WE STILL HAVE SHRINES OF THE 170 00:05:33,334 --> 00:05:36,802 WE STILL HAVE SHRINES OF THE KENNEDY FAMILY IN OUR HOUSES. 171 00:05:36,804 --> 00:05:38,670 KENNEDY FAMILY IN OUR HOUSES. AND SO THAT HISTORY HAS STAYED 172 00:05:38,672 --> 00:05:39,504 AND SO THAT HISTORY HAS STAYED WITH US. 173 00:05:39,506 --> 00:05:42,507 WITH US. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL 174 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:46,311 BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL LANDSCAPE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE 175 00:05:46,313 --> 00:05:49,147 LANDSCAPE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE LATINO REPUBLICANS, GOVERNOR IN 176 00:05:49,149 --> 00:05:51,316 LATINO REPUBLICANS, GOVERNOR IN NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO, MARTINEZ, 177 00:05:51,318 --> 00:05:55,687 NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO, MARTINEZ, THE SENATORS IN FLORIDA AND IN 178 00:05:55,689 --> 00:05:57,723 THE SENATORS IN FLORIDA AND IN OTHER PLACES WHERE -- AND IN 179 00:05:57,725 --> 00:05:58,090 OTHER PLACES WHERE -- AND IN TEXAS. 180 00:05:58,092 --> 00:06:00,125 TEXAS. WHERE NOW IF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY 181 00:06:00,127 --> 00:06:01,860 WHERE NOW IF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS NOT CAREFUL, I THINK THE 182 00:06:01,862 --> 00:06:03,228 IS NOT CAREFUL, I THINK THE REPUBLICANS ARE ONTO SOMETHING 183 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:04,663 REPUBLICANS ARE ONTO SOMETHING ABOUT THE TYPE OF CANDIDATE THAT 184 00:06:04,665 --> 00:06:07,699 ABOUT THE TYPE OF CANDIDATE THAT THEY ARE PUTTING OUT TO ATTRACT 185 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:08,033 THEY ARE PUTTING OUT TO ATTRACT LATINOS. 186 00:06:08,035 --> 00:06:10,302 LATINOS. BUT STILL, WE ARE A LOYAL GROUP 187 00:06:10,304 --> 00:06:13,338 BUT STILL, WE ARE A LOYAL GROUP AND LATINOS ARE CANDIDATES 188 00:06:13,340 --> 00:06:15,741 AND LATINOS ARE CANDIDATES FOR -- DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ARE 189 00:06:15,743 --> 00:06:17,576 FOR -- DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ARE RIGHT ON THE ISSUE IMPORTANT TO 190 00:06:17,578 --> 00:06:18,110 RIGHT ON THE ISSUE IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. 191 00:06:18,112 --> 00:06:20,545 OUR COMMUNITY. >> LOCALLY HERE IN ARIZONA, 192 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:23,415 >> LOCALLY HERE IN ARIZONA, MARICOPA COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY 193 00:06:23,417 --> 00:06:25,951 MARICOPA COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY REPUBLICAN. 194 00:06:25,953 --> 00:06:27,819 REPUBLICAN. PIMA COUNTY MOSTLY DEMOCRAT BUT 195 00:06:27,821 --> 00:06:29,287 PIMA COUNTY MOSTLY DEMOCRAT BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT COULD SHIFT? 196 00:06:29,289 --> 00:06:31,390 YOU'RE SAYING THAT COULD SHIFT? >> I BELIEVE IF A DEMOCRAT 197 00:06:31,392 --> 00:06:33,125 >> I BELIEVE IF A DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE FEELS THAT THERE'S A 198 00:06:33,127 --> 00:06:34,626 CANDIDATE FEELS THAT THERE'S A LOSING CAUSE BECAUSE MARICOPA 199 00:06:34,628 --> 00:06:36,027 LOSING CAUSE BECAUSE MARICOPA COUNTY IS PREDOMINANTLY 200 00:06:36,029 --> 00:06:37,696 COUNTY IS PREDOMINANTLY REPUBLICAN OR HAS HAD A HISTORY 201 00:06:37,698 --> 00:06:39,998 REPUBLICAN OR HAS HAD A HISTORY OF IT BEING REPUBLICAN, THEN 202 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,600 OF IT BEING REPUBLICAN, THEN THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE 203 00:06:41,602 --> 00:06:44,136 THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT IN OUR 204 00:06:44,138 --> 00:06:46,071 DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT IN OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICES, ELECTED 205 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:46,438 GOVERNMENT OFFICES, ELECTED OFFICIALS. 206 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,873 OFFICIALS. WE HAVE TO GET OVER THAT. 207 00:06:47,875 --> 00:06:49,241 WE HAVE TO GET OVER THAT. ARE THEY CANDIDATES? 208 00:06:49,243 --> 00:06:50,409 ARE THEY CANDIDATES? ARE THEY A CANDIDATE? 209 00:06:50,411 --> 00:06:52,644 ARE THEY A CANDIDATE? THE CANDIDATE HAS TO BE ABLE TO 210 00:06:52,646 --> 00:06:58,283 THE CANDIDATE HAS TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO POLITICAL AISLES 211 00:06:58,285 --> 00:06:59,885 REACH OUT TO POLITICAL AISLES AND ONCE THE CANDIDATE DOES 212 00:06:59,887 --> 00:07:01,119 AND ONCE THE CANDIDATE DOES THAT, IT IS POSSIBLE. 213 00:07:01,121 --> 00:07:02,254 THAT, IT IS POSSIBLE. >> ARIZONA HAS NEVER BEEN A 214 00:07:02,256 --> 00:07:03,555 >> ARIZONA HAS NEVER BEEN A SWING STATE BUT ARE YOU SAYING 215 00:07:03,557 --> 00:07:04,823 SWING STATE BUT ARE YOU SAYING THAT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IT 216 00:07:04,825 --> 00:07:05,190 THAT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IT COULD BE? 217 00:07:05,192 --> 00:07:09,094 COULD BE? >> LOOK, IF I'M SITTING THERE 218 00:07:09,096 --> 00:07:13,832 >> LOOK, IF I'M SITTING THERE ADVISING BUSH, JEB BUSH FOR 2016 219 00:07:13,834 --> 00:07:17,235 ADVISING BUSH, JEB BUSH FOR 2016 OR HILLARY CLINTON ABOUT 2016, 220 00:07:17,237 --> 00:07:19,571 OR HILLARY CLINTON ABOUT 2016, ABOUT ARIZONA, GIVEN WHAT IS 221 00:07:19,573 --> 00:07:21,907 ABOUT ARIZONA, GIVEN WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ONE 222 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:24,476 HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ONE STATE THAT IS ON MY RADAR SCREEN 223 00:07:24,478 --> 00:07:26,711 STATE THAT IS ON MY RADAR SCREEN AS A POTENTIAL SWING STATE FOR 224 00:07:26,713 --> 00:07:28,780 AS A POTENTIAL SWING STATE FOR THE DEMOCRATS. 225 00:07:28,782 --> 00:07:30,215 THE DEMOCRATS. OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONE REPUBLICAN 226 00:07:30,217 --> 00:07:31,183 OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONE REPUBLICAN EXCEPT FOR WHEN PRESIDENT 227 00:07:31,185 --> 00:07:32,584 EXCEPT FOR WHEN PRESIDENT CLINTON RAN BUT I THINK THIS 228 00:07:32,586 --> 00:07:34,719 CLINTON RAN BUT I THINK THIS STATE COULD BE IN PLAY IN 2016. 229 00:07:34,721 --> 00:07:36,288 STATE COULD BE IN PLAY IN 2016. AND THAT'S WHY THIS ELECTION IS 230 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:38,190 AND THAT'S WHY THIS ELECTION IS SO IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHY 231 00:07:38,192 --> 00:07:40,859 SO IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHY PARTLY YOU HAVE SO MUCH OUTSIDE 232 00:07:40,861 --> 00:07:43,028 PARTLY YOU HAVE SO MUCH OUTSIDE MONEY FROM NATIONAL POLITICAL 233 00:07:43,030 --> 00:07:44,629 MONEY FROM NATIONAL POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT PLAY BECAUSE 234 00:07:44,631 --> 00:07:47,132 ORGANIZATIONS THAT PLAY BECAUSE 2016 IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL FOR 235 00:07:47,134 --> 00:07:50,302 2016 IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL FOR THEIR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. 236 00:07:50,304 --> 00:07:53,805 THEIR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. >> IS ARIZONA'S POLITICAL PATH, 237 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:55,540 >> IS ARIZONA'S POLITICAL PATH, DOES THAT PLAY A FACTOR RIGHT 238 00:07:55,542 --> 00:07:55,807 DOES THAT PLAY A FACTOR RIGHT NOW? 239 00:07:55,809 --> 00:07:58,910 NOW? >> I THINK LITTLE BY LITTLE, 240 00:07:58,912 --> 00:08:04,616 >> I THINK LITTLE BY LITTLE, ARIZONA IS GETTING OVER THE 241 00:08:04,618 --> 00:08:07,452 ARIZONA IS GETTING OVER THE UNFORTUNATE, UGLY TIME PERIOD WE 242 00:08:07,454 --> 00:08:10,322 UNFORTUNATE, UGLY TIME PERIOD WE HAD WITH RUSSELL PEARCE AND THE 243 00:08:10,324 --> 00:08:13,959 HAD WITH RUSSELL PEARCE AND THE OTHER INITIATIVES WITH -- THAT 244 00:08:13,961 --> 00:08:19,498 OTHER INITIATIVES WITH -- THAT APPEAR TO BE ANTI-LGBT, 245 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:20,232 APPEAR TO BE ANTI-LGBT, ANTI-MINORITY, WE'RE GETTING 246 00:08:20,234 --> 00:08:21,666 ANTI-MINORITY, WE'RE GETTING OVER THAT, IN MY OPINION. 247 00:08:21,668 --> 00:08:25,103 OVER THAT, IN MY OPINION. >>> HERE NOW IS MY INTERVIEW 248 00:08:25,105 --> 00:08:26,671 >>> HERE NOW IS MY INTERVIEW WITH A MAN WHO WAS BORN AND 249 00:08:26,673 --> 00:08:30,575 WITH A MAN WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN NOGALES AND SERVED AS 250 00:08:30,577 --> 00:08:31,877 RAISED IN NOGALES AND SERVED AS SUPERINTENDENT FOR ARIZONA 251 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:32,410 SUPERINTENDENT FOR ARIZONA PUBLIC INSTRUCTION. 252 00:08:32,412 --> 00:08:34,746 PUBLIC INSTRUCTION. HE RUNS A GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC 253 00:08:34,748 --> 00:08:37,249 HE RUNS A GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS FIRM IN THE PHOENIX 254 00:08:37,251 --> 00:08:37,816 AFFAIRS FIRM IN THE PHOENIX AREA. 255 00:08:37,818 --> 00:08:43,955 AREA. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DAYS TO 256 00:08:43,957 --> 00:08:44,222 WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DAYS TO GO. 257 00:08:44,224 --> 00:08:45,757 GO. WHAT ARE THE REPUBLICANS DOING 258 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:47,192 WHAT ARE THE REPUBLICANS DOING TO GEAR UP FOR THE BIG DAY? 259 00:08:47,194 --> 00:08:48,727 TO GEAR UP FOR THE BIG DAY? >> IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING YOUR 260 00:08:48,729 --> 00:08:52,597 >> IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING YOUR BASE OUT AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S 261 00:08:52,599 --> 00:08:53,865 BASE OUT AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHY I THINK DUCEY HAS AN 262 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:54,232 WHY I THINK DUCEY HAS AN ADVANTAGE. 263 00:08:54,234 --> 00:08:55,433 ADVANTAGE. IF HE GET REPUBLICANS MOTIVATED 264 00:08:55,435 --> 00:08:59,237 IF HE GET REPUBLICANS MOTIVATED TO VOTE AND WE HAVE A PRETTY 265 00:08:59,239 --> 00:09:01,139 TO VOTE AND WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD GAP OF REPUBLICANS 266 00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:02,541 GOOD GAP OF REPUBLICANS OUTWEIGHING THE DEMOCRATS, YOU 267 00:09:02,543 --> 00:09:04,075 OUTWEIGHING THE DEMOCRATS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL 268 00:09:04,077 --> 00:09:04,876 KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL TO HIM. 269 00:09:04,878 --> 00:09:06,511 TO HIM. BUT CERTAINLY FRED DUVAL NEEDS 270 00:09:06,513 --> 00:09:08,179 BUT CERTAINLY FRED DUVAL NEEDS TO MAKE SURE AS MANY DEMOCRATS 271 00:09:08,181 --> 00:09:09,314 TO MAKE SURE AS MANY DEMOCRATS COME OUT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE 272 00:09:09,316 --> 00:09:10,882 COME OUT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T GIVE UP THAT 273 00:09:10,884 --> 00:09:11,349 THEY JUST CAN'T GIVE UP THAT MUCH GROUND. 274 00:09:11,351 --> 00:09:13,051 MUCH GROUND. >> WE HAVE A FEW CONTESTED 275 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:13,351 >> WE HAVE A FEW CONTESTED RACES. 276 00:09:13,353 --> 00:09:15,287 RACES. ATTORNEY GENERAL, SECRETARY OF 277 00:09:15,289 --> 00:09:16,788 ATTORNEY GENERAL, SECRETARY OF STATE, PUBLIC INSTRUCTION. 278 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:18,356 STATE, PUBLIC INSTRUCTION. WHERE DO YOU SEE THESE RACES 279 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:20,158 WHERE DO YOU SEE THESE RACES GOING OR IS IT TOO EARLY TO 280 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:20,458 GOING OR IS IT TOO EARLY TO TELL? 281 00:09:20,460 --> 00:09:21,993 TELL? >> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE 282 00:09:21,995 --> 00:09:22,294 >> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT. 283 00:09:22,296 --> 00:09:23,795 TIGHT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME VERY 284 00:09:23,797 --> 00:09:25,697 WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME VERY SPIRITED CAMPAIGNS BUT I THINK 285 00:09:25,699 --> 00:09:27,499 SPIRITED CAMPAIGNS BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AS A 286 00:09:27,501 --> 00:09:28,199 YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AS A REPUBLICAN YEAR. 287 00:09:28,201 --> 00:09:30,368 REPUBLICAN YEAR. I MEAN, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF 288 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:32,504 I MEAN, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF ARIZONA BUT NATIONALLY. 289 00:09:32,506 --> 00:09:34,606 ARIZONA BUT NATIONALLY. THERE'S A LOT OF THE POLITICAL 290 00:09:34,608 --> 00:09:35,941 THERE'S A LOT OF THE POLITICAL PUNDITS SORT OF THINKING THAT 291 00:09:35,943 --> 00:09:37,809 PUNDITS SORT OF THINKING THAT THE SENATE IS GOING TO SWING 292 00:09:37,811 --> 00:09:40,345 THE SENATE IS GOING TO SWING BACK TO THE REPUBLICANS, THE 293 00:09:40,347 --> 00:09:40,745 BACK TO THE REPUBLICANS, THE U.S. SENATE. 294 00:09:40,747 --> 00:09:43,114 U.S. SENATE. THEY ARE GOING TO GAIN A LOT OF 295 00:09:43,116 --> 00:09:45,116 THEY ARE GOING TO GAIN A LOT OF GROUND ON THE -- IN CONGRESS. 296 00:09:45,118 --> 00:09:46,718 GROUND ON THE -- IN CONGRESS. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO 297 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,422 AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO TRANSLATE, ESPECIALLY IN A STATE 298 00:09:50,424 --> 00:09:52,324 TRANSLATE, ESPECIALLY IN A STATE LIKE ARIZONA, AND IF YOU HAVE A 299 00:09:52,326 --> 00:09:54,492 LIKE ARIZONA, AND IF YOU HAVE A LOW VOTER TURNOUT AND YOU HAVE 300 00:09:54,494 --> 00:09:56,161 LOW VOTER TURNOUT AND YOU HAVE MORE REPUBLICANS FIRED UP TO 301 00:09:56,163 --> 00:09:58,496 MORE REPUBLICANS FIRED UP TO VOTE, IT JUST BODES WELL AND IT 302 00:09:58,498 --> 00:10:00,732 VOTE, IT JUST BODES WELL AND IT BODES WELL WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE 303 00:10:00,734 --> 00:10:01,066 BODES WELL WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE TICKET. 304 00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:07,606 TICKET. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, FELICIA 305 00:10:07,608 --> 00:10:08,907 BUT HAVING SAID THAT, FELICIA RODALINI IS A STRONG CANDIDATE 306 00:10:08,909 --> 00:10:11,242 RODALINI IS A STRONG CANDIDATE AND YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT 307 00:10:11,244 --> 00:10:17,148 AND YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT RACE IS A TOSS-UP. 308 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:18,450 RACE IS A TOSS-UP. SAME THING WITH THE STATE SCHOOL 309 00:10:18,452 --> 00:10:18,917 SAME THING WITH THE STATE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT. 310 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:20,685 SUPERINTENDENT. EVERYTHING HAS TO GO TO -- THOSE 311 00:10:20,687 --> 00:10:21,987 EVERYTHING HAS TO GO TO -- THOSE CAMPAIGNS HAVE TO GO RIGHT FOR 312 00:10:21,989 --> 00:10:23,588 CAMPAIGNS HAVE TO GO RIGHT FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN AND RIGHT 313 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:27,192 THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN AND RIGHT NOW I'D GIVE THE EDGE TO THE 314 00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:27,626 NOW I'D GIVE THE EDGE TO THE REPUBLICANS. 315 00:10:27,628 --> 00:10:29,027 REPUBLICANS. >> ARIZONA IS TRADITIONALLY A 316 00:10:29,029 --> 00:10:30,328 >> ARIZONA IS TRADITIONALLY A REPUBLICAN STATE BUT YOU'RE 317 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:31,229 REPUBLICAN STATE BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS 318 00:10:31,231 --> 00:10:32,597 SAYING THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY MEAN THE SAME THING. 319 00:10:32,599 --> 00:10:34,265 NECESSARILY MEAN THE SAME THING. >> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. 320 00:10:34,267 --> 00:10:35,000 >> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. CANDIDATES MATTER. 321 00:10:35,002 --> 00:10:37,535 CANDIDATES MATTER. THE WAY THEY RUN THEIR CAMPAIGNS 322 00:10:37,537 --> 00:10:38,069 THE WAY THEY RUN THEIR CAMPAIGNS ABSOLUTELY MATTER. 323 00:10:38,071 --> 00:10:40,505 ABSOLUTELY MATTER. BUT WHEN YOU ADD 175,000 MORE 324 00:10:40,507 --> 00:10:42,774 BUT WHEN YOU ADD 175,000 MORE REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS, WHEN 325 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:45,110 REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS, WHEN YOU ADD MOTIVATIONAL FACTORS 326 00:10:45,112 --> 00:10:47,178 YOU ADD MOTIVATIONAL FACTORS THERE, THE LOW PRESIDENTIAL 327 00:10:47,180 --> 00:10:49,014 THERE, THE LOW PRESIDENTIAL NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN LIKE AN 328 00:10:49,016 --> 00:10:51,116 NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN LIKE AN ANCHOR FOR DEMOCRATS, EVEN WITH 329 00:10:51,118 --> 00:10:53,551 ANCHOR FOR DEMOCRATS, EVEN WITH OUR CONGRESSIONAL RACES, PATRICK 330 00:10:53,553 --> 00:10:57,956 OUR CONGRESSIONAL RACES, PATRICK UP NORTH, IT STARTS TO HAVE A 331 00:10:57,958 --> 00:11:00,191 UP NORTH, IT STARTS TO HAVE A TOLL. 332 00:11:00,193 --> 00:11:01,693 TOLL. AND SO IF REPUBLICANS GET OUT 333 00:11:01,695 --> 00:11:04,462 AND SO IF REPUBLICANS GET OUT THERE, IT COULD BE A LONG NIGHT 334 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:07,098 THERE, IT COULD BE A LONG NIGHT FOR THE DEMS. 335 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,167 FOR THE DEMS. >> A LOT OF HISPANICS IN 336 00:11:09,169 --> 00:11:10,669 >> A LOT OF HISPANICS IN ARIZONA, THE LATINOS. 337 00:11:10,671 --> 00:11:11,903 ARIZONA, THE LATINOS. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS 338 00:11:11,905 --> 00:11:12,637 WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS TIME AROUND? 339 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:17,008 TIME AROUND? >> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S BEEN 340 00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:21,413 >> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S BEEN THE ACHILLES HEEL NOT JUST FOR 341 00:11:21,415 --> 00:11:23,848 THE ACHILLES HEEL NOT JUST FOR THE DEMOCRATS BUT WE DON'T HAVE 342 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:25,850 THE DEMOCRATS BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LATINO TURNOUT AND THAT'S 343 00:11:25,852 --> 00:11:27,986 ENOUGH LATINO TURNOUT AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO 344 00:11:27,988 --> 00:11:28,553 SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AT SOME POINT. 345 00:11:28,555 --> 00:11:29,921 ADDRESS AT SOME POINT. I THINK IT STEMS FROM THE WAY 346 00:11:29,923 --> 00:11:37,562 I THINK IT STEMS FROM THE WAY THAT WE GERRYMANDER DISTRICTS 347 00:11:37,564 --> 00:11:39,230 THAT WE GERRYMANDER DISTRICTS AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE 348 00:11:39,232 --> 00:11:41,700 AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR THE HONOR TO HAVE 349 00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:42,667 FIGHTING FOR THE HONOR TO HAVE LATINOS VOTE FOR THEM AND I 350 00:11:42,669 --> 00:11:43,868 LATINOS VOTE FOR THEM AND I THINK IT STARTS TO TAKE A TOLL. 351 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:45,136 THINK IT STARTS TO TAKE A TOLL. >> ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF 352 00:11:45,138 --> 00:11:46,571 >> ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THINGS, WE'VE SEEN HIGH-LEVEL 353 00:11:46,573 --> 00:11:47,939 THINGS, WE'VE SEEN HIGH-LEVEL CANDIDATES IN NEVADA, NEW 354 00:11:47,941 --> 00:11:49,340 CANDIDATES IN NEVADA, NEW MEXICO, TEXAS, FLORIDA. 355 00:11:49,342 --> 00:11:50,709 MEXICO, TEXAS, FLORIDA. BUT ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT 356 00:11:50,711 --> 00:11:51,843 BUT ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT OUT OF THE MIX. 357 00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:54,746 OUT OF THE MIX. WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG, 358 00:11:54,748 --> 00:11:56,514 WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG, HISPANIC REPUBLICAN REPRESENT 359 00:11:56,516 --> 00:11:56,881 HISPANIC REPUBLICAN REPRESENT THE STATE? 360 00:11:56,883 --> 00:11:58,283 THE STATE? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 361 00:11:58,285 --> 00:12:01,886 >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. 362 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:04,122 THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. IN NEVADA YOU HAVE SUSAN 363 00:12:04,124 --> 00:12:10,361 IN NEVADA YOU HAVE SUSAN MARTINEZ IN NEW MEXICO AND I 364 00:12:10,363 --> 00:12:13,031 MARTINEZ IN NEW MEXICO AND I THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL HAPPEN 365 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:15,700 THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL HAPPEN BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE NOT 366 00:12:15,702 --> 00:12:17,402 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE NOT SEEN REPUBLICANS, IN MY OPINION, 367 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:18,937 SEEN REPUBLICANS, IN MY OPINION, GO AFTER THOSE CANDIDATES AND 368 00:12:18,939 --> 00:12:20,605 GO AFTER THOSE CANDIDATES AND RECRUIT THEM THE WAY THAT I 369 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:21,473 RECRUIT THEM THE WAY THAT I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD. 370 00:12:21,475 --> 00:12:22,540 THINK THAT THEY SHOULD. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT MONEY. 371 00:12:22,542 --> 00:12:25,009 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT MONEY. EVERY YEAR WE SAY, EVERY 372 00:12:25,011 --> 00:12:26,211 EVERY YEAR WE SAY, EVERY ELECTION YEAR SEEMS TO BE MORE 373 00:12:26,213 --> 00:12:27,178 ELECTION YEAR SEEMS TO BE MORE COMING AT US. 374 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:29,080 COMING AT US. THIS TIME AROUND, WE'RE REALLY 375 00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:30,348 THIS TIME AROUND, WE'RE REALLY TALKING SOME HEAVY CASH. 376 00:12:30,350 --> 00:12:32,484 TALKING SOME HEAVY CASH. SO HOW DOES THAT INFLUENCE THE 377 00:12:32,486 --> 00:12:32,817 SO HOW DOES THAT INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME? 378 00:12:32,819 --> 00:12:34,886 OUTCOME? >> OH, IT HAS A HUGE INFLUENCE. 379 00:12:34,888 --> 00:12:36,621 >> OH, IT HAS A HUGE INFLUENCE. BUT IT STEMS FROM THE SUPREME 380 00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:37,489 BUT IT STEMS FROM THE SUPREME COURT DECISION. 381 00:12:37,491 --> 00:12:39,257 COURT DECISION. THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING, 382 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:44,729 THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING, WHICH ALLOWED FOR AN INFLUX OF 383 00:12:44,731 --> 00:12:45,964 WHICH ALLOWED FOR AN INFLUX OF SO-CALLED DARK MONEY, 384 00:12:45,966 --> 00:12:47,565 SO-CALLED DARK MONEY, INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES HAS 385 00:12:47,567 --> 00:12:50,435 INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES HAS CHANGED THE WAY CAMPAIGNS ARE 386 00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:50,702 CHANGED THE WAY CAMPAIGNS ARE RUN. 387 00:12:50,704 --> 00:12:52,604 RUN. IF YOU LOOK AT ANDY TOBIN WHO IS 388 00:12:52,606 --> 00:12:54,372 IF YOU LOOK AT ANDY TOBIN WHO IS RUNNING IN CONGRESSIONAL 389 00:12:54,374 --> 00:13:01,312 RUNNING IN CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1 AGAINST ANN 390 00:13:01,314 --> 00:13:02,647 DISTRICT 1 AGAINST ANN KIRKPATRICK, SHE'S OUTRAISED HIM 391 00:13:02,649 --> 00:13:03,882 KIRKPATRICK, SHE'S OUTRAISED HIM TWO TO ONE. 392 00:13:03,884 --> 00:13:06,785 TWO TO ONE. SOME ACCUSE TOBIN AS NOT BEING A 393 00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:11,589 SOME ACCUSE TOBIN AS NOT BEING A STRONG CAMPAIGNER BUT HE'S NECK 394 00:13:11,591 --> 00:13:13,057 STRONG CAMPAIGNER BUT HE'S NECK IN NECK WITH KIRKPATRICK. 395 00:13:13,059 --> 00:13:15,627 IN NECK WITH KIRKPATRICK. YOU HAVE THE U.S. CHAMBER OF 396 00:13:15,629 --> 00:13:17,162 YOU HAVE THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PUMP MILLIONS AND 397 00:13:17,164 --> 00:13:19,798 COMMERCE PUMP MILLIONS AND MILLIONS INTO THAT RACE AND ALL 398 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,034 MILLIONS INTO THAT RACE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN TOBIN IS 399 00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:24,269 OF A SUDDEN TOBIN IS NECK-AND-NECK AND SOME PEOPLE 400 00:13:24,271 --> 00:13:26,771 NECK-AND-NECK AND SOME PEOPLE THINK HE WILL PULL THAT OUT. 401 00:13:26,773 --> 00:13:33,311 THINK HE WILL PULL THAT OUT. IF IT WASN'T FOR THE OUTSIDE 402 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:33,745 IF IT WASN'T FOR THE OUTSIDE EXPENDITURES. 403 00:13:33,747 --> 00:13:36,147 EXPENDITURES. >> THE 2016 ELECTION IS NOT FAR 404 00:13:36,149 --> 00:13:36,881 >> THE 2016 ELECTION IS NOT FAR AWAY. 405 00:13:36,883 --> 00:13:38,550 AWAY. WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR PRESIDENTIAL 406 00:13:38,552 --> 00:13:38,883 WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR PRESIDENTIAL RACES? 407 00:13:38,885 --> 00:13:41,686 RACES? >> WELL, IT WILL BE INTERESTING, 408 00:13:41,688 --> 00:13:43,054 >> WELL, IT WILL BE INTERESTING, BECAUSE IF CONSERVATIVES AND 409 00:13:43,056 --> 00:13:45,924 BECAUSE IF CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS DO AS WELL AS SOME 410 00:13:45,926 --> 00:13:47,959 REPUBLICANS DO AS WELL AS SOME PEOPLE ARE PREDICTING IN 411 00:13:47,961 --> 00:13:51,629 PEOPLE ARE PREDICTING IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, THEN I 412 00:13:51,631 --> 00:13:54,465 NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, THEN I THINK IT MIGHT HEARTEN PEOPLE 413 00:13:54,467 --> 00:13:58,670 THINK IT MIGHT HEARTEN PEOPLE LIKE A RAND PAUL OR TED CRUZ TO 414 00:13:58,672 --> 00:14:00,338 LIKE A RAND PAUL OR TED CRUZ TO SAY THERE'S A NATIONAL 415 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:01,506 SAY THERE'S A NATIONAL REFERENDUM, WE NEED TO HAVE 416 00:14:01,508 --> 00:14:02,574 REFERENDUM, WE NEED TO HAVE STRONG CONSERVATIVES. 417 00:14:02,576 --> 00:14:04,442 STRONG CONSERVATIVES. WE NEED TO HAVE REAL 418 00:14:04,444 --> 00:14:05,310 WE NEED TO HAVE REAL QUOTE/UNQUOTE REPUBLICANS. 419 00:14:05,312 --> 00:14:08,213 QUOTE/UNQUOTE REPUBLICANS. AND SO IT WILL LEAD THEM, IN MY 420 00:14:08,215 --> 00:14:09,681 AND SO IT WILL LEAD THEM, IN MY OPINION, TO GO AFTER THE CHRIS 421 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:11,416 OPINION, TO GO AFTER THE CHRIS CHRISTIES AND GO AFTER THE MORE 422 00:14:11,418 --> 00:14:12,717 CHRISTIES AND GO AFTER THE MORE MODERATE WING AND SAY, 423 00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:14,552 MODERATE WING AND SAY, REPUBLICANS CAN WIN IF WE STAY 424 00:14:14,554 --> 00:14:17,789 REPUBLICANS CAN WIN IF WE STAY TRUE AND HAVE THE REAL SO-CALLED 425 00:14:17,791 --> 00:14:19,057 TRUE AND HAVE THE REAL SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVES RUNNING AND I 426 00:14:19,059 --> 00:14:20,225 CONSERVATIVES RUNNING AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN 427 00:14:20,227 --> 00:14:21,626 THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON SOME PEOPLE'S 428 00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:22,493 INFLUENCE ON SOME PEOPLE'S DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY 429 00:14:22,495 --> 00:14:23,161 DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO WIN. 430 00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:24,729 WANT TO WIN. >> ARIZONA IS NOT A SWING STATE. 431 00:14:24,731 --> 00:14:27,465 >> ARIZONA IS NOT A SWING STATE. SHOULD POLITICIANS, SHOULD BIG 432 00:14:27,467 --> 00:14:29,167 SHOULD POLITICIANS, SHOULD BIG PARTIES BE LOOKING AT IT SAYING 433 00:14:29,169 --> 00:14:30,368 PARTIES BE LOOKING AT IT SAYING WE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION? 434 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:31,169 WE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION? >> ABSOLUTELY. 435 00:14:31,171 --> 00:14:32,604 >> ABSOLUTELY. FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. 436 00:14:32,606 --> 00:14:36,274 FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ARIZONA IS STILL GROWING AND OUR 437 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:39,210 ARIZONA IS STILL GROWING AND OUR ELECTORAL COLLEGE CONTINUES TO 438 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:39,510 ELECTORAL COLLEGE CONTINUES TO GROW. 439 00:14:39,512 --> 00:14:41,512 GROW. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A BIG LATINO 440 00:14:41,514 --> 00:14:42,914 BUT WE ALSO HAVE A BIG LATINO POPULATION AND I THINK IF YOU 441 00:14:42,916 --> 00:14:44,682 POPULATION AND I THINK IF YOU HAVE NATIONAL CANDIDATES DO WELL 442 00:14:44,684 --> 00:14:46,484 HAVE NATIONAL CANDIDATES DO WELL IN ARIZONA, AND ALSO ARIZONA IS 443 00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:48,353 IN ARIZONA, AND ALSO ARIZONA IS ONE OF THE EARLY PRIMARY STATES, 444 00:14:48,355 --> 00:14:49,954 ONE OF THE EARLY PRIMARY STATES, TOO, YOU DO WELL IN ARIZONA, 445 00:14:49,956 --> 00:14:52,023 TOO, YOU DO WELL IN ARIZONA, THAT'S A MICROCOSM OF HOW WELL 446 00:14:52,025 --> 00:14:53,825 THAT'S A MICROCOSM OF HOW WELL YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IN THE 447 00:14:53,827 --> 00:14:54,225 YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IN THE WEST. 448 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:57,262 WEST. AND SO I THINK ARIZONA'S STATURE 449 00:14:57,264 --> 00:14:58,296 AND SO I THINK ARIZONA'S STATURE IS STARTING TO GROW JUST FOR 450 00:14:58,298 --> 00:14:59,831 IS STARTING TO GROW JUST FOR THAT REASON. 451 00:14:59,833 --> 00:15:03,468 THAT REASON. ¶ 452 00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:05,236 ¶ >> THE BUZZ NOW JOINING US FROM 453 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:07,572 >> THE BUZZ NOW JOINING US FROM PHOENIX IS MARY JOE PISTOL, THE 454 00:15:07,574 --> 00:15:08,539 PHOENIX IS MARY JOE PISTOL, THE ARIZONA STATE GOVERNMENT 455 00:15:08,541 --> 00:15:09,841 ARIZONA STATE GOVERNMENT REPORTER AT THE ARIZONA 456 00:15:09,843 --> 00:15:10,208 REPORTER AT THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC. 457 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:16,247 REPUBLIC. AND MY COLLEAGUE, CHRISTOPHER 458 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:16,581 AND MY COLLEAGUE, CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. 459 00:15:16,583 --> 00:15:18,683 CONOVER. THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. 460 00:15:18,685 --> 00:15:22,620 THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. MARY JO, NEW POLLS ARE COMING 461 00:15:22,622 --> 00:15:22,887 MARY JO, NEW POLLS ARE COMING OUT? 462 00:15:22,889 --> 00:15:26,391 OUT? >> THE CONSENSUS POLLS SHOW THAT 463 00:15:26,393 --> 00:15:28,326 >> THE CONSENSUS POLLS SHOW THAT THE REPUBLICAN DOUG DUCEY HAS A 464 00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:32,463 THE REPUBLICAN DOUG DUCEY HAS A DECENT LEAD IN THE GOVERNOR'S 465 00:15:32,465 --> 00:15:32,764 DECENT LEAD IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE. 466 00:15:32,766 --> 00:15:34,966 RACE. SOME PEOPLE EXPECT HIM TO WIN BY 467 00:15:34,968 --> 00:15:36,701 SOME PEOPLE EXPECT HIM TO WIN BY AS MUCH AS 7 TO 8 POINTS. 468 00:15:36,703 --> 00:15:38,469 AS MUCH AS 7 TO 8 POINTS. FRED DUVAL'S CAMPAIGN PUSHES 469 00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:40,371 FRED DUVAL'S CAMPAIGN PUSHES BACK SAYING THAT THEY SEE OTHER 470 00:15:40,373 --> 00:15:41,773 BACK SAYING THAT THEY SEE OTHER POLLING THAT IT'S A VERY TIGHT 471 00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:44,208 POLLING THAT IT'S A VERY TIGHT RACE AND IT WILL ALL TURN ON 472 00:15:44,210 --> 00:15:45,877 RACE AND IT WILL ALL TURN ON INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS 473 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:47,345 INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS GETTING OUT TO VOTE. 474 00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:49,113 GETTING OUT TO VOTE. THEY ARE NOT AS READY TO RETURN 475 00:15:49,115 --> 00:15:51,015 THEY ARE NOT AS READY TO RETURN THEIR EARLY BALLOTS AS 476 00:15:51,017 --> 00:15:51,416 THEIR EARLY BALLOTS AS REPUBLICANS. 477 00:15:51,418 --> 00:15:53,251 REPUBLICANS. BUT I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT IT 478 00:15:53,253 --> 00:15:56,187 BUT I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LEANING TOWARDS 479 00:15:56,189 --> 00:15:56,521 LOOKS LIKE IT'S LEANING TOWARDS DUCEY. 480 00:15:56,523 --> 00:15:57,822 DUCEY. >> AND CHRISTOPHER, YOU SEEM TO 481 00:15:57,824 --> 00:15:59,190 >> AND CHRISTOPHER, YOU SEEM TO BELIEVE THE SAME THING, BASED ON 482 00:15:59,192 --> 00:15:59,958 BELIEVE THE SAME THING, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SEEING? 483 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,360 WHAT YOU'RE SEEING? >> BASED ON THE POLLS THAT MARY 484 00:16:02,362 --> 00:16:04,095 >> BASED ON THE POLLS THAT MARY JO AND I ARE SEEING APPARENTLY 485 00:16:04,097 --> 00:16:04,896 JO AND I ARE SEEING APPARENTLY THE SAME POLLS. 486 00:16:04,898 --> 00:16:06,564 THE SAME POLLS. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 487 00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:09,367 THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND ALSO, AT LEAST HERE IN 488 00:16:09,369 --> 00:16:13,404 AND ALSO, AT LEAST HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA, DEMOCRATS TEND 489 00:16:13,406 --> 00:16:15,773 SOUTHERN ARIZONA, DEMOCRATS TEND TO GET THEIR BALLOTS BACK 490 00:16:15,775 --> 00:16:18,309 TO GET THEIR BALLOTS BACK EARLIER AND REPUBLICANS TEND TO 491 00:16:18,311 --> 00:16:20,411 EARLIER AND REPUBLICANS TEND TO COME OUT AND VOTE ON ELECTION 492 00:16:20,413 --> 00:16:21,245 COME OUT AND VOTE ON ELECTION DAY. 493 00:16:21,247 --> 00:16:24,949 DAY. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CD-2 RACE, 494 00:16:24,951 --> 00:16:26,351 FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CD-2 RACE, WHERE THE REPUBLICAN IN THAT 495 00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:27,885 WHERE THE REPUBLICAN IN THAT RACE WILL WIN ELECTION DAY BUT 496 00:16:27,887 --> 00:16:29,721 RACE WILL WIN ELECTION DAY BUT IT'S THE EARLY BALLOTS THAT 497 00:16:29,723 --> 00:16:31,022 IT'S THE EARLY BALLOTS THAT PUSHES THE DEMOCRAT OVER. 498 00:16:31,024 --> 00:16:33,291 PUSHES THE DEMOCRAT OVER. SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THIS 499 00:16:33,293 --> 00:16:34,492 SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THIS ALL PLAYS OUT. 500 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,527 ALL PLAYS OUT. I GUESS WE'RE DOWN TO THE POINT 501 00:16:36,529 --> 00:16:37,929 I GUESS WE'RE DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE ONLY ONE POLL MATTERS AND 502 00:16:37,931 --> 00:16:39,464 WHERE ONLY ONE POLL MATTERS AND THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE ALL WAITING 503 00:16:39,466 --> 00:16:42,867 THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE ALL WAITING FOR TUESDAY NIGHT AT 8:00. 504 00:16:42,869 --> 00:16:44,402 FOR TUESDAY NIGHT AT 8:00. >> AND CHRISTOPHER, IN THE 505 00:16:44,404 --> 00:16:46,004 >> AND CHRISTOPHER, IN THE PROGRAM WE SAW SOME STRATEGISTS 506 00:16:46,006 --> 00:16:47,305 PROGRAM WE SAW SOME STRATEGISTS TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING 507 00:16:47,307 --> 00:16:48,773 TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE 508 00:16:48,775 --> 00:16:50,742 BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE CAMPAIGN AND IT'S THAT LAST BIT 509 00:16:50,744 --> 00:16:52,977 CAMPAIGN AND IT'S THAT LAST BIT OF REACH TO VOTERS WHO ARE 510 00:16:52,979 --> 00:16:55,046 OF REACH TO VOTERS WHO ARE UNDECIDED OR MAYBE GOING TO THE 511 00:16:55,048 --> 00:16:55,546 UNDECIDED OR MAYBE GOING TO THE POLLS ON TUESDAY. 512 00:16:55,548 --> 00:16:58,416 POLLS ON TUESDAY. >> WE'RE INTO THE BARNSTORM 513 00:16:58,418 --> 00:16:59,283 >> WE'RE INTO THE BARNSTORM PORTION. 514 00:16:59,285 --> 00:17:01,486 PORTION. TERRY GODDARD, THE DEMOCRAT 515 00:17:01,488 --> 00:17:03,788 TERRY GODDARD, THE DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR SECRETARY OF STATE, 516 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:06,958 RUNNING FOR SECRETARY OF STATE, IS ON A STATEWIDE TOUR. 517 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,594 IS ON A STATEWIDE TOUR. DOUG DUCEY KICKED ONE OFF TODAY 518 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:10,461 DOUG DUCEY KICKED ONE OFF TODAY HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 519 00:17:10,463 --> 00:17:12,864 HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. HE'S APPEARING WITH A NUMBER OF 520 00:17:12,866 --> 00:17:13,998 HE'S APPEARING WITH A NUMBER OF CANDIDATES THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN 521 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,332 CANDIDATES THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 522 00:17:14,334 --> 00:17:16,167 ARIZONA. FRED DUVAL IS HERE IN SOUTHERN 523 00:17:16,169 --> 00:17:18,536 FRED DUVAL IS HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA WITH DR. JILL BIDEN, THE 524 00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:20,538 ARIZONA WITH DR. JILL BIDEN, THE VICE PRESIDENT'S WIFE STUMPING 525 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:21,372 VICE PRESIDENT'S WIFE STUMPING WITH DEMOCRATS. 526 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,908 WITH DEMOCRATS. WE'RE TO THAT POINT WHERE 527 00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:26,744 WE'RE TO THAT POINT WHERE IT'S -- SHAKE AS MANY HANDS AS 528 00:17:26,746 --> 00:17:27,478 IT'S -- SHAKE AS MANY HANDS AS YOU CAN AND GET AS MANY PEOPLE 529 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,213 YOU CAN AND GET AS MANY PEOPLE TO EITHER SEND IN THOSE BALLOTS 530 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:30,348 TO EITHER SEND IN THOSE BALLOTS OR VOTE ON TUESDAY. 531 00:17:30,350 --> 00:17:31,649 OR VOTE ON TUESDAY. >> MARY JO, YOU HAVE BEEN DOING 532 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:32,617 >> MARY JO, YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE NOW. 533 00:17:32,619 --> 00:17:34,719 THIS FOR A WHILE NOW. HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THIS LAST 534 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:36,054 HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THIS LAST MINUTE PUSH CAN MAKE A 535 00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:37,255 MINUTE PUSH CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR A CANDIDATE? 536 00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:38,890 DIFFERENCE FOR A CANDIDATE? >> OH, IT DEFINITELY CAN. 537 00:17:38,892 --> 00:17:40,925 >> OH, IT DEFINITELY CAN. ESPECIALLY IN VERY CLOSE RACES. 538 00:17:40,927 --> 00:17:42,427 ESPECIALLY IN VERY CLOSE RACES. THIS MIGHT MATTER MORE IN 539 00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:44,028 THIS MIGHT MATTER MORE IN LEGISLATIVE RACES WHERE YOU HAVE 540 00:17:44,030 --> 00:17:45,596 LEGISLATIVE RACES WHERE YOU HAVE A MUCH SMALLER POOL OF A 541 00:17:45,598 --> 00:17:47,331 A MUCH SMALLER POOL OF A UNIVERSE OF VOTERS THAT WOULD 542 00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:48,099 UNIVERSE OF VOTERS THAT WOULD DETERMINE IT. 543 00:17:48,101 --> 00:17:49,567 DETERMINE IT. YEAH, IT DEFINITELY CAN MAKE A 544 00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:49,967 YEAH, IT DEFINITELY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 545 00:17:49,969 --> 00:17:51,369 DIFFERENCE. >> AND WITH THAT LAST-MINUTE 546 00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:53,371 >> AND WITH THAT LAST-MINUTE PUSH, WE'RE ALSO SEEING HEAVY 547 00:17:53,373 --> 00:17:54,772 PUSH, WE'RE ALSO SEEING HEAVY CAMPAIGNING THROUGH THE 548 00:17:54,774 --> 00:17:55,940 CAMPAIGNING THROUGH THE AIRWAVES, RADIO AND TELEVISION. 549 00:17:55,942 --> 00:17:57,742 AIRWAVES, RADIO AND TELEVISION. A LOT OF MONEY THAT IT'S TAKING 550 00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:00,845 A LOT OF MONEY THAT IT'S TAKING TO REALLY MAKE THESE RACES 551 00:18:00,847 --> 00:18:01,145 TO REALLY MAKE THESE RACES COUNT. 552 00:18:01,147 --> 00:18:03,848 COUNT. WE'RE TALKING UPWARD OF 26 553 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:04,215 WE'RE TALKING UPWARD OF 26 MILLION. 554 00:18:04,217 --> 00:18:05,950 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING 555 00:18:05,952 --> 00:18:06,350 IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING CHRISTOPHER? 556 00:18:06,352 --> 00:18:07,618 CHRISTOPHER? >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING. 557 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:09,487 >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS 558 00:18:09,489 --> 00:18:11,155 MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE AND THE 559 00:18:11,157 --> 00:18:12,623 COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE AND THE CANDIDATES, ALSO, HAVE PLENTY OF 560 00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:14,459 CANDIDATES, ALSO, HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY THAT THEY ARE SPENDING. 561 00:18:14,461 --> 00:18:17,495 MONEY THAT THEY ARE SPENDING. SO FOR A COUPLE MORE DAYS, OUR 562 00:18:17,497 --> 00:18:19,130 SO FOR A COUPLE MORE DAYS, OUR AIRWAVES ARE GOING TO BE 563 00:18:19,132 --> 00:18:19,497 AIRWAVES ARE GOING TO BE INUNDATED. 564 00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:20,698 INUNDATED. THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF 565 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:21,833 THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF OPEN SPACE LEFT IF SOMEBODY 566 00:18:21,835 --> 00:18:24,402 OPEN SPACE LEFT IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUY A LAST-MINUTE AD. 567 00:18:24,404 --> 00:18:26,704 WANTED TO BUY A LAST-MINUTE AD. IT'S PROBABLY NOT AVAILABLE AT 568 00:18:26,706 --> 00:18:27,105 IT'S PROBABLY NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS POINT. 569 00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:29,774 THIS POINT. >> MARY JO, IN THE PHOENIX AREA, 570 00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:31,409 >> MARY JO, IN THE PHOENIX AREA, I IMAGINE YOU'RE SEEING THOSE 571 00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:32,877 I IMAGINE YOU'RE SEEING THOSE ADS HIT THE AIRWAVES AS WELL? 572 00:18:32,879 --> 00:18:35,913 ADS HIT THE AIRWAVES AS WELL? >> OH, YEAH. 573 00:18:35,915 --> 00:18:39,250 >> OH, YEAH. YOU'RE SEEING CD-1 DOWN IN PINAL 574 00:18:39,252 --> 00:18:41,018 YOU'RE SEEING CD-1 DOWN IN PINAL COUNTY AND THE STATEWIDE MARKET 575 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:42,086 COUNTY AND THE STATEWIDE MARKET COMES OUT OF PHOENIX. 576 00:18:42,088 --> 00:18:44,222 COMES OUT OF PHOENIX. YOU TUNE IN AT THE 10:00 HOUR AT 577 00:18:44,224 --> 00:18:46,958 YOU TUNE IN AT THE 10:00 HOUR AT NIGHT AND IT'S SOLID POLITICAL 578 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,225 NIGHT AND IT'S SOLID POLITICAL ADS. 579 00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:48,893 ADS. I SHOULD ADD THAT THE 26 MILLION 580 00:18:48,895 --> 00:18:51,496 I SHOULD ADD THAT THE 26 MILLION IS IN OUTSIDE SPENDING. 581 00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:53,631 IS IN OUTSIDE SPENDING. AS CHRISTOPHER NOTED, ON TOP OF 582 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:54,532 AS CHRISTOPHER NOTED, ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE THE MONEY THAT 583 00:18:54,534 --> 00:18:56,200 THAT, YOU HAVE THE MONEY THAT THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES ARE 584 00:18:56,202 --> 00:18:56,601 THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES ARE SPENDING. 585 00:18:56,603 --> 00:18:59,237 SPENDING. THIS IS ADDING UP TO BE A VERY 586 00:18:59,239 --> 00:19:00,805 THIS IS ADDING UP TO BE A VERY EXPENSIVE ELECTION BUT THE 587 00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:02,106 EXPENSIVE ELECTION BUT THE BIGGER MONEY WILL COME FROM 588 00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:05,843 BIGGER MONEY WILL COME FROM OUTSIDE AND BY OUTSIDE MONEY, WE 589 00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:08,045 OUTSIDE AND BY OUTSIDE MONEY, WE MEAN POLITICAL ACTION 590 00:19:08,047 --> 00:19:08,813 MEAN POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES, INDEPENDENT 591 00:19:08,815 --> 00:19:10,281 COMMITTEES, INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES, SOME WHO 592 00:19:10,283 --> 00:19:11,849 EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES, SOME WHO DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS, OTHERS 593 00:19:11,851 --> 00:19:12,683 DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS, OTHERS WHO DON'T. 594 00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:15,286 WHO DON'T. THAT COULD SEND THEM IN THE DARK 595 00:19:15,288 --> 00:19:17,788 THAT COULD SEND THEM IN THE DARK CATEGORY MONEY, WHICH HAS BEEN 596 00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:24,629 CATEGORY MONEY, WHICH HAS BEEN ANOTHER THEME RUNNING THROUGHOUT 597 00:19:24,631 --> 00:19:26,297 ANOTHER THEME RUNNING THROUGHOUT THIS ELECTION SIGHICYCLE. 598 00:19:26,299 --> 00:19:29,901 THIS ELECTION SIGHICYCLE. >> FELICIA RODALINI DECLINED THE 599 00:19:29,903 --> 00:19:30,201 >> FELICIA RODALINI DECLINED THE MONEY? 600 00:19:30,203 --> 00:19:32,436 MONEY? >> DARK MONEY HAS BECOME AN 601 00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:34,305 >> DARK MONEY HAS BECOME AN ISSUE IN THESE RACES. 602 00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:36,774 ISSUE IN THESE RACES. WE HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT IT IN 603 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:39,010 WE HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT IT IN THE GOVERNOR ISSUE BUT IN THE 604 00:19:39,012 --> 00:19:40,711 THE GOVERNOR ISSUE BUT IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE RACE AND IN 605 00:19:40,713 --> 00:19:42,046 SECRETARY OF STATE RACE AND IN THE CORPORATION COMMISSION RACE, 606 00:19:42,048 --> 00:19:44,582 THE CORPORATION COMMISSION RACE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT DARK 607 00:19:44,584 --> 00:19:48,653 WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT DARK MONEY. 608 00:19:48,655 --> 00:19:50,021 MONEY. RODALIN ICH 609 00:19:50,023 --> 00:19:50,755 RODALIN ICH RODALINI HAS TURNED DOWN MONEY 610 00:19:50,757 --> 00:19:52,557 RODALINI HAS TURNED DOWN MONEY FROM THE DARK MONEY ACCOUNTS, IT 611 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:58,396 FROM THE DARK MONEY ACCOUNTS, IT LOOKS LIKE, AND TERRY GODDARD 612 00:19:58,398 --> 00:20:00,965 LOOKS LIKE, AND TERRY GODDARD WAS A RECIPIENT AGAINST THE DARK 613 00:20:00,967 --> 00:20:01,966 WAS A RECIPIENT AGAINST THE DARK MONEY ORGANIZATION. 614 00:20:01,968 --> 00:20:06,370 MONEY ORGANIZATION. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF DARK MONEY 615 00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:07,338 SO THERE'S PLENTY OF DARK MONEY NOTING AROUND. 616 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:09,941 NOTING AROUND. SOME OF THESE -- I DON'T WANT TO 617 00:20:09,943 --> 00:20:11,809 SOME OF THESE -- I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM SECOND-TIER RACES BUT 618 00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:13,611 CALL THEM SECOND-TIER RACES BUT RACES BELOW THE GOVERNOR RACE. 619 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:15,713 RACES BELOW THE GOVERNOR RACE. >> AND THEY TALK ABOUT EVERY 620 00:20:15,715 --> 00:20:17,114 >> AND THEY TALK ABOUT EVERY ELECTION IT'S MORE MONEY EVERY 621 00:20:17,116 --> 00:20:18,182 ELECTION IT'S MORE MONEY EVERY SINGLE ELECTION. 622 00:20:18,184 --> 00:20:19,750 SINGLE ELECTION. SO AT WHAT POINT WILL IT HIT 623 00:20:19,752 --> 00:20:20,785 SO AT WHAT POINT WILL IT HIT THAT PEAK? 624 00:20:20,787 --> 00:20:22,453 THAT PEAK? AND ONE OF THEM SAYS IT'S THEIR 625 00:20:22,455 --> 00:20:24,055 AND ONE OF THEM SAYS IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO SPEND 626 00:20:24,057 --> 00:20:24,388 RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY. 627 00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:25,223 MONEY. MARY JO? 628 00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:26,691 MARY JO? >> OH, IT'S DEFINITELY THEIR 629 00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:26,991 >> OH, IT'S DEFINITELY THEIR RIGHT. 630 00:20:26,993 --> 00:20:28,826 RIGHT. IN FACT, A LOT OF THIS GOES BACK 631 00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:30,861 IN FACT, A LOT OF THIS GOES BACK TO THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING 632 00:20:30,863 --> 00:20:33,431 TO THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING FROM THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IN 633 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:35,533 FROM THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IN 2010 WHICH BASICALLY SAID THAT 634 00:20:35,535 --> 00:20:37,969 2010 WHICH BASICALLY SAID THAT THERE CANNOT BE LIMITS ON 635 00:20:37,971 --> 00:20:39,170 THERE CANNOT BE LIMITS ON CORPORATIONS AND OTHER GROUPS IN 636 00:20:39,172 --> 00:20:41,739 CORPORATIONS AND OTHER GROUPS IN TERMS OF THEIR CAMPAIGN 637 00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:42,106 TERMS OF THEIR CAMPAIGN SPENDING. 638 00:20:42,108 --> 00:20:45,109 SPENDING. THEN YOU HAD THAT OVERLAID WITH 639 00:20:45,111 --> 00:20:47,945 THEN YOU HAD THAT OVERLAID WITH SOME OF THE IRS RULES THAT RULED 640 00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:49,247 SOME OF THE IRS RULES THAT RULED POLITICAL NONPROFITS WHICH DO 641 00:20:49,249 --> 00:20:51,148 POLITICAL NONPROFITS WHICH DO NOT HAVE TO DISCLOSE THEIR 642 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:53,384 NOT HAVE TO DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS IF AT LEAST 51% OF THEIR 643 00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:54,919 DONORS IF AT LEAST 51% OF THEIR ACTIVITY IS FOR A SOCIAL WELFARE 644 00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:55,219 ACTIVITY IS FOR A SOCIAL WELFARE CAUSE. 645 00:20:55,221 --> 00:20:56,587 CAUSE. THAT MEANS THEY CAN SPEND THE 646 00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,155 THAT MEANS THEY CAN SPEND THE REST ON POLITICAL ACTIVITIES 647 00:20:58,157 --> 00:20:59,757 REST ON POLITICAL ACTIVITIES WITHOUT NAMING WHO THEIR DONORS 648 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:00,024 WITHOUT NAMING WHO THEIR DONORS ARE. 649 00:21:00,026 --> 00:21:02,393 ARE. SO IT'S CERTAINLY ALL VERY 650 00:21:02,395 --> 00:21:02,693 SO IT'S CERTAINLY ALL VERY LEGAL. 651 00:21:02,695 --> 00:21:04,428 LEGAL. I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT, YOU 652 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:06,264 I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE, IT HELPS TO KNOW WHO 653 00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:08,132 KNOW, ONE, IT HELPS TO KNOW WHO THESE OUTSIDE INFLUENCES ARE FOR 654 00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:10,735 THESE OUTSIDE INFLUENCES ARE FOR THE MEDIA, FOR THE PUBLIC TO 655 00:21:10,737 --> 00:21:13,070 THE MEDIA, FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHO MIGHT BE TRYING 656 00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:15,039 UNDERSTAND WHO MIGHT BE TRYING TO PULL WHOSE STRINGS AND, 657 00:21:15,041 --> 00:21:16,274 TO PULL WHOSE STRINGS AND, SECONDLY, JUST THE MAGNITUDE OF 658 00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:16,807 SECONDLY, JUST THE MAGNITUDE OF THE MONEY. 659 00:21:16,809 --> 00:21:18,342 THE MONEY. YOU DO WONDER WHERE IT'S GOING 660 00:21:18,344 --> 00:21:19,143 YOU DO WONDER WHERE IT'S GOING TO STOP. 661 00:21:19,145 --> 00:21:20,311 TO STOP. >> ONE OF THE INTERESTING 662 00:21:20,313 --> 00:21:22,546 >> ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS, LORRAINE, I LOOKED AT 663 00:21:22,548 --> 00:21:24,915 THINGS, LORRAINE, I LOOKED AT THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2 664 00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:26,183 THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2 SPENDING, WHICH IS NOT A 665 00:21:26,185 --> 00:21:27,618 SPENDING, WHICH IS NOT A STATEWIDE RACE, AT THE BEGINNING 666 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:29,854 STATEWIDE RACE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS WEEK. 667 00:21:29,856 --> 00:21:31,822 OF THIS WEEK. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2 AND 1 668 00:21:31,824 --> 00:21:33,858 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2 AND 1 WERE IN THE TOP TEN OF SPENDING 669 00:21:33,860 --> 00:21:35,459 WERE IN THE TOP TEN OF SPENDING FOR CONGRESSIONAL RACES IN THE 670 00:21:35,461 --> 00:21:35,793 FOR CONGRESSIONAL RACES IN THE NATION. 671 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,528 NATION. AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1 AT 672 00:21:37,530 --> 00:21:39,430 AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1 AT THE VERY END OF LAST WEEK HAD 673 00:21:39,432 --> 00:21:41,332 THE VERY END OF LAST WEEK HAD THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF OUTSIDE 674 00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:42,800 THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF OUTSIDE MONEY BEING SPENT ON ANY 675 00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:44,101 MONEY BEING SPENT ON ANY CONGRESSIONAL RACE IN THE 676 00:21:44,103 --> 00:21:44,435 CONGRESSIONAL RACE IN THE NATION. 677 00:21:44,437 --> 00:21:46,070 NATION. NOW, THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED. 678 00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:47,638 NOW, THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED. WE WERE WATCHING SPENDING 679 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,374 WE WERE WATCHING SPENDING UPWARDS OF $1 MILLION A DAY IN 680 00:21:50,376 --> 00:21:51,709 UPWARDS OF $1 MILLION A DAY IN SOME OF THE RACES EVEN IN 681 00:21:51,711 --> 00:21:53,077 SOME OF THE RACES EVEN IN ARIZONA BY OUTSIDE GROUPS SO 682 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:54,278 ARIZONA BY OUTSIDE GROUPS SO THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT 683 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,348 THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, CD 1 WAS THE 684 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:58,849 EARLIER THIS WEEK, CD 1 WAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE OUTSIDE MONEY 685 00:21:58,851 --> 00:21:59,784 MOST EXPENSIVE OUTSIDE MONEY RACE IN THE NATION. 686 00:21:59,786 --> 00:22:01,252 RACE IN THE NATION. >> CHRIS, YOU'VE BEEN COVERING 687 00:22:01,254 --> 00:22:03,321 >> CHRIS, YOU'VE BEEN COVERING THAT RACE PRETTY EXTENSIVELY. 688 00:22:03,323 --> 00:22:04,789 THAT RACE PRETTY EXTENSIVELY. WHY SPEND SO MUCH MONEY ON 689 00:22:04,791 --> 00:22:05,623 WHY SPEND SO MUCH MONEY ON KEEPING THAT SEAT? 690 00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:07,658 KEEPING THAT SEAT? >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING SEAT 691 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,027 >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING SEAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS DRAWN. 692 00:22:10,029 --> 00:22:11,329 BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS DRAWN. IT TOUCHES SOUTHERN ARIZONA, 693 00:22:11,331 --> 00:22:13,831 IT TOUCHES SOUTHERN ARIZONA, NORTHERN PIMA COUNTY AND ALL THE 694 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:15,933 NORTHERN PIMA COUNTY AND ALL THE WAY UP TO THE UTAH BORDER. 695 00:22:15,935 --> 00:22:17,868 WAY UP TO THE UTAH BORDER. SO TO BUY AN AD IN THAT RACE, 696 00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:19,937 SO TO BUY AN AD IN THAT RACE, YOU HAVE TO BUY IN THE PHOENIX 697 00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:21,205 YOU HAVE TO BUY IN THE PHOENIX MARKET AND YOU HAVE TO BUY IN 698 00:22:21,207 --> 00:22:22,440 MARKET AND YOU HAVE TO BUY IN THE FLAGSTAFF MARKET AND YOU 699 00:22:22,442 --> 00:22:24,675 THE FLAGSTAFF MARKET AND YOU HAVE TO BUY IN THE TUCSON 700 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:25,009 HAVE TO BUY IN THE TUCSON MARKET. 701 00:22:25,011 --> 00:22:26,444 MARKET. YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT MARKETS 702 00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:27,745 YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT MARKETS YOU HAVE TO BUY IN. 703 00:22:27,747 --> 00:22:29,780 YOU HAVE TO BUY IN. PLUS, ALL OF YOUR MAILING AND 704 00:22:29,782 --> 00:22:30,414 PLUS, ALL OF YOUR MAILING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 705 00:22:30,416 --> 00:22:32,683 EVERYTHING ELSE. SO IT'S JUST A MORE EXPENSIVE 706 00:22:32,685 --> 00:22:34,785 SO IT'S JUST A MORE EXPENSIVE MARKET TO GET INTO OR MORE 707 00:22:34,787 --> 00:22:36,387 MARKET TO GET INTO OR MORE EXPENSIVE RACE TO GET INTO. 708 00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:37,088 EXPENSIVE RACE TO GET INTO. >> MARY JO -- 709 00:22:37,090 --> 00:22:38,322 >> MARY JO -- >> AND I THINK THAT -- 710 00:22:38,324 --> 00:22:39,156 >> AND I THINK THAT -- >> GO AHEAD. 711 00:22:39,158 --> 00:22:39,557 >> GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. 712 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:41,659 I'M SORRY. >> I THINK THAT RACE IS ALSO 713 00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:43,227 >> I THINK THAT RACE IS ALSO HOTLY CONTESTED BECAUSE IT'S 714 00:22:43,229 --> 00:22:44,929 HOTLY CONTESTED BECAUSE IT'S FLIPPED BETWEEN REPUBLICAN AND 715 00:22:44,931 --> 00:22:48,099 FLIPPED BETWEEN REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT IN RECENT YEARS AND 716 00:22:48,101 --> 00:22:49,667 DEMOCRAT IN RECENT YEARS AND KIRKPATRICK HAD IT IN 2010. 717 00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:53,270 KIRKPATRICK HAD IT IN 2010. SHE LOST THE SEAT IN 2012. 718 00:22:53,272 --> 00:22:55,539 SHE LOST THE SEAT IN 2012. NO, I GOT IT BACKWARDS. 719 00:22:55,541 --> 00:22:57,608 NO, I GOT IT BACKWARDS. ANYWAY, IF SHE CAN WIN THIS IN 720 00:22:57,610 --> 00:23:00,010 ANYWAY, IF SHE CAN WIN THIS IN TWO CYCLES CONSECUTIVELY, THAT 721 00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:01,612 TWO CYCLES CONSECUTIVELY, THAT MIGHT SORT OF CEMENT IT FOR A 722 00:23:01,614 --> 00:23:02,213 MIGHT SORT OF CEMENT IT FOR A WHILE TO COME. 723 00:23:02,215 --> 00:23:04,014 WHILE TO COME. SO THE REPUBLICANS REALLY WANT 724 00:23:04,016 --> 00:23:05,282 SO THE REPUBLICANS REALLY WANT TO GET THEIR PERSON IN THERE. 725 00:23:05,284 --> 00:23:07,051 TO GET THEIR PERSON IN THERE. >> AND, OF COURSE, YOU ALWAYS 726 00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:08,853 >> AND, OF COURSE, YOU ALWAYS RUN THE RISK IF YOUR CANDIDATE 727 00:23:08,855 --> 00:23:12,356 RUN THE RISK IF YOUR CANDIDATE LOSES ALL OF THAT MONEY WENT FOR 728 00:23:12,358 --> 00:23:14,392 LOSES ALL OF THAT MONEY WENT FOR WHAT EXACTLY? 729 00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:15,626 WHAT EXACTLY? >> VOTER FRUSTRATION. 730 00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:16,060 >> VOTER FRUSTRATION. >> ALL RIGHT. 731 00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:17,628 >> ALL RIGHT. TALK ABOUT THE VOTERS, WE'RE 732 00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:18,496 TALK ABOUT THE VOTERS, WE'RE SEEING EARLY BALLOTS IN. 733 00:23:18,498 --> 00:23:20,464 SEEING EARLY BALLOTS IN. SOME OF THESE NUMBERS STARTED TO 734 00:23:20,466 --> 00:23:24,468 SOME OF THESE NUMBERS STARTED TO COME IN ON PIMA COUNTY, MARICOPA 735 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:24,802 COME IN ON PIMA COUNTY, MARICOPA COUNTY. 736 00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:26,737 COUNTY. IS THAT A GOOD INDICATION OR ARE 737 00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:28,072 IS THAT A GOOD INDICATION OR ARE THINGS MOVING SLOWLY, 738 00:23:28,074 --> 00:23:28,472 THINGS MOVING SLOWLY, CHRISTOPHER? 739 00:23:28,474 --> 00:23:29,473 CHRISTOPHER? >> IT'S A GOOD INDICATION. 740 00:23:29,475 --> 00:23:31,809 >> IT'S A GOOD INDICATION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD OR 741 00:23:31,811 --> 00:23:32,076 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD OR BAD. 742 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:34,712 BAD. BUT IN PIMA COUNTY THEY ARE 743 00:23:34,714 --> 00:23:36,280 BUT IN PIMA COUNTY THEY ARE PREDICTING OVER 50%. 744 00:23:36,282 --> 00:23:38,315 PREDICTING OVER 50%. THEY WERE PREDICTING 50% BY 745 00:23:38,317 --> 00:23:39,950 THEY WERE PREDICTING 50% BY THURSDAY MORNING TO BE IN. 746 00:23:39,952 --> 00:23:41,519 THURSDAY MORNING TO BE IN. 50% OF THE BALLOTS THAT HAVE 747 00:23:41,521 --> 00:23:42,887 50% OF THE BALLOTS THAT HAVE BEEN MAILED OUT. 748 00:23:42,889 --> 00:23:44,188 BEEN MAILED OUT. MARICOPA COUNTY, THEY ARE COMING 749 00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:46,257 MARICOPA COUNTY, THEY ARE COMING IN A LITTLE SLOWER. 750 00:23:46,259 --> 00:23:48,492 IN A LITTLE SLOWER. THE LAST NUMBER I SAW EARLIER 751 00:23:48,494 --> 00:23:49,994 THE LAST NUMBER I SAW EARLIER THIS WEEK WAS ABOUT A THIRD OF 752 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:51,295 THIS WEEK WAS ABOUT A THIRD OF BALLOTS COMING IN. 753 00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:54,765 BALLOTS COMING IN. IN PIMA COUNTY, 62% OF 754 00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:56,333 IN PIMA COUNTY, 62% OF REGISTERED VOTERS REQUESTED AN 755 00:23:56,335 --> 00:23:57,134 REGISTERED VOTERS REQUESTED AN EARLY BALLOT. 756 00:23:57,136 --> 00:23:59,236 EARLY BALLOT. IF WE'RE OVER THE 50% MARK, THAT 757 00:23:59,238 --> 00:24:02,173 IF WE'RE OVER THE 50% MARK, THAT MEANS A VAST NUMBER OF VOTERS 758 00:24:02,175 --> 00:24:03,741 MEANS A VAST NUMBER OF VOTERS HAVE ALREADY VOTED IN THESE 759 00:24:03,743 --> 00:24:04,041 HAVE ALREADY VOTED IN THESE RACES. 760 00:24:04,043 --> 00:24:05,276 RACES. TUESDAY DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM. 761 00:24:05,278 --> 00:24:08,112 TUESDAY DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM. IT'S ABOUT THE COUNTING AT THAT 762 00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:08,446 IT'S ABOUT THE COUNTING AT THAT POINT. 763 00:24:08,448 --> 00:24:08,779 POINT. >> OKAY. 764 00:24:08,781 --> 00:24:10,681 >> OKAY. AND MARY JO, ARE YOU HEARING ANY 765 00:24:10,683 --> 00:24:12,950 AND MARY JO, ARE YOU HEARING ANY CONVERSATION HERE IN PHOENIX 766 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:14,385 CONVERSATION HERE IN PHOENIX ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL HAVE 767 00:24:14,387 --> 00:24:15,719 ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL HAVE RESULTS FOR THESE BIG RACES ON 768 00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:17,588 RESULTS FOR THESE BIG RACES ON TUESDAY NIGHT OR WILL IT LAST 769 00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:18,189 TUESDAY NIGHT OR WILL IT LAST THROUGH THE WEEK? 770 00:24:18,191 --> 00:24:22,460 THROUGH THE WEEK? >> I KNOW MARICOPA COUNTY'S 771 00:24:22,462 --> 00:24:24,962 >> I KNOW MARICOPA COUNTY'S RECORDER OFFICE WAS SAYING IT 772 00:24:24,964 --> 00:24:26,664 RECORDER OFFICE WAS SAYING IT MAY TAKE A WEEK OR TWO TO COUNT 773 00:24:26,666 --> 00:24:27,731 MAY TAKE A WEEK OR TWO TO COUNT THEM AFTERWARDS. 774 00:24:27,733 --> 00:24:28,732 THEM AFTERWARDS. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN 775 00:24:28,734 --> 00:24:29,633 THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN EVERYTHING WILL HANG. 776 00:24:29,635 --> 00:24:32,269 EVERYTHING WILL HANG. I THINK SOME OF THE TOP TIER 777 00:24:32,271 --> 00:24:33,571 I THINK SOME OF THE TOP TIER RACES WILL PROBABLY BE DECIDED 778 00:24:33,573 --> 00:24:34,271 RACES WILL PROBABLY BE DECIDED FAIRLY QUICKLY. 779 00:24:34,273 --> 00:24:38,075 FAIRLY QUICKLY. MAYBE NOT IN TIME FOR OUR PRINT 780 00:24:38,077 --> 00:24:39,043 MAYBE NOT IN TIME FOR OUR PRINT DEADLINES BUT ESPECIALLY SOME OF 781 00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:42,346 DEADLINES BUT ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE RACES AND 782 00:24:42,348 --> 00:24:47,485 THE LEGISLATIVE RACES AND PERHAPS CD 1, CD 2, MAYBE EVEN 783 00:24:47,487 --> 00:24:49,453 PERHAPS CD 1, CD 2, MAYBE EVEN SECRETARY OF STATE, THOSE THINGS 784 00:24:49,455 --> 00:24:50,821 SECRETARY OF STATE, THOSE THINGS COULD DRAG ON FOR A WHILE. 785 00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:53,324 COULD DRAG ON FOR A WHILE. >> MARY JO, LET'S MOVE ON FROM 786 00:24:53,326 --> 00:24:55,593 >> MARY JO, LET'S MOVE ON FROM THE ELECTION NEWS TO SCHOOL 787 00:24:55,595 --> 00:24:55,926 THE ELECTION NEWS TO SCHOOL FUNDING. 788 00:24:55,928 --> 00:24:56,894 FUNDING. $1 BILLION. 789 00:24:56,896 --> 00:24:58,128 $1 BILLION. THERE'S TALK THAT THE STATE 790 00:24:58,130 --> 00:24:59,597 THERE'S TALK THAT THE STATE CANNOT AFFORD IT AND OTHER FOLKS 791 00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:01,232 CANNOT AFFORD IT AND OTHER FOLKS WHO SAY WE HAVE A RAINY DAY 792 00:25:01,234 --> 00:25:01,532 WHO SAY WE HAVE A RAINY DAY FUND. 793 00:25:01,534 --> 00:25:02,433 FUND. WHAT DO YOU SAY? 794 00:25:02,435 --> 00:25:06,103 WHAT DO YOU SAY? >> WELL, WE'VE HAD A WEEKS' 795 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:08,138 >> WELL, WE'VE HAD A WEEKS' WORTH OF TESTIMONY IN MARICOPA 796 00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:09,039 WORTH OF TESTIMONY IN MARICOPA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT. 797 00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:10,674 COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT. WHAT IS SETTLED IS THAT THE 798 00:25:10,676 --> 00:25:13,143 WHAT IS SETTLED IS THAT THE STATE SHORTED THE K-12 SYSTEM TO 799 00:25:13,145 --> 00:25:17,114 STATE SHORTED THE K-12 SYSTEM TO THE TUNE OF $1.3 BILLION DURING 800 00:25:17,116 --> 00:25:18,282 THE TUNE OF $1.3 BILLION DURING THE GREAT RECESSION WHEN THEY 801 00:25:18,284 --> 00:25:19,583 THE GREAT RECESSION WHEN THEY DID NOT FUND THE SCHOOLS. 802 00:25:19,585 --> 00:25:21,151 DID NOT FUND THE SCHOOLS. THE SUPREME COURTS MADE IT 803 00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:23,187 THE SUPREME COURTS MADE IT CLEAR, YOU'VE GOT TO ADJUST THAT 804 00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:23,554 CLEAR, YOU'VE GOT TO ADJUST THAT SPENDING. 805 00:25:23,556 --> 00:25:25,589 SPENDING. YOU'VE GOT TO PAY THAT. 806 00:25:25,591 --> 00:25:28,425 YOU'VE GOT TO PAY THAT. SO THEY ARE IN COURT NOW TO TRY 807 00:25:28,427 --> 00:25:30,594 SO THEY ARE IN COURT NOW TO TRY TO -- THE LEGISLATURE IS -- TO 808 00:25:30,596 --> 00:25:32,496 TO -- THE LEGISLATURE IS -- TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE, WHEN DO WE 809 00:25:32,498 --> 00:25:33,998 TRY TO NEGOTIATE, WHEN DO WE HAVE TO SEND THAT BACK AND 810 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,165 HAVE TO SEND THAT BACK AND REALLY FOR THE BACK PAYMENTS 811 00:25:35,167 --> 00:25:37,167 REALLY FOR THE BACK PAYMENTS THAT THE SCHOOLS SAY THEY ARE 812 00:25:37,169 --> 00:25:39,203 THAT THE SCHOOLS SAY THEY ARE OWED, YOU KNOW, THE STATE IS 813 00:25:39,205 --> 00:25:40,471 OWED, YOU KNOW, THE STATE IS ARGUING, WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO 814 00:25:40,473 --> 00:25:41,038 ARGUING, WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO PAY THAT. 815 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,973 PAY THAT. WE'VE HAD SOME YEARS WHERE WE 816 00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:44,341 WE'VE HAD SOME YEARS WHERE WE OVERPAID THE SCHOOLS. 817 00:25:44,343 --> 00:25:46,043 OVERPAID THE SCHOOLS. THE STATE'S ARGUMENT GENERALLY 818 00:25:46,045 --> 00:25:47,678 THE STATE'S ARGUMENT GENERALLY IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH 819 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,245 IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. 820 00:25:48,247 --> 00:25:50,014 MONEY. YES, THERE IS A RAINY DAY FUND 821 00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:51,582 YES, THERE IS A RAINY DAY FUND BUT THAT ONLY GOES PARTLY 822 00:25:51,584 --> 00:25:52,816 BUT THAT ONLY GOES PARTLY TOWARDS THE SOLUTION. 823 00:25:52,818 --> 00:25:55,686 TOWARDS THE SOLUTION. THEN YOU HAVE ONGOING ISSUES. 824 00:25:55,688 --> 00:25:57,521 THEN YOU HAVE ONGOING ISSUES. THE SCHOOLS HAVE PUT WITNESSES 825 00:25:57,523 --> 00:25:59,156 THE SCHOOLS HAVE PUT WITNESSES ON THE STAND OUTLINING DIFFERENT 826 00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:00,691 ON THE STAND OUTLINING DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE STATES COULD GET 827 00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:04,428 WAYS THAT THE STATES COULD GET THE MONEY, SUCH AS BY ROLLING 828 00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:06,397 THE MONEY, SUCH AS BY ROLLING BACK TAX BREAKS THAT ARE 829 00:26:06,399 --> 00:26:08,299 BACK TAX BREAKS THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, 830 00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:10,134 SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES, SOME 831 00:26:10,136 --> 00:26:11,669 CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES, SOME THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE GETTING 832 00:26:11,671 --> 00:26:13,771 THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE GETTING RID OF SOME OF THE SCHOOL 833 00:26:13,773 --> 00:26:15,573 RID OF SOME OF THE SCHOOL TUITION, ORGANIZATION, TAX 834 00:26:15,575 --> 00:26:15,906 TUITION, ORGANIZATION, TAX CREDITS. 835 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,741 CREDITS. THEY PUT AN ARRAY OF CHOICES OUT 836 00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:18,976 THEY PUT AN ARRAY OF CHOICES OUT THERE TO MAKE THE POINT THAT 837 00:26:18,978 --> 00:26:21,111 THERE TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THERE IS A WAY TO DO THIS. 838 00:26:21,113 --> 00:26:23,080 THERE IS A WAY TO DO THIS. IT'S JUST NOT VERY PALATABLE TO 839 00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:24,548 IT'S JUST NOT VERY PALATABLE TO MANY MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE. 840 00:26:24,550 --> 00:26:24,949 MANY MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE. >> OKAY. 841 00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:26,850 >> OKAY. AND THEN CHRISTOPHER, HERE WE'RE 842 00:26:26,852 --> 00:26:29,853 AND THEN CHRISTOPHER, HERE WE'RE ALSO NEXT WEEK, THE GOVERNOR 843 00:26:29,855 --> 00:26:32,222 ALSO NEXT WEEK, THE GOVERNOR WILL BE IN TUCSON FOR TALKS OVER 844 00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:33,290 WILL BE IN TUCSON FOR TALKS OVER THE MEDICAID EXPANSION. 845 00:26:33,292 --> 00:26:34,558 THE MEDICAID EXPANSION. WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? 846 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,494 WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? >> THE MEDICAID EXPANSION IS THE 847 00:26:37,496 --> 00:26:38,996 >> THE MEDICAID EXPANSION IS THE ISSUE WHERE THE GOVERNOR WAS 848 00:26:38,998 --> 00:26:41,832 ISSUE WHERE THE GOVERNOR WAS ABLE TO PULL DOWN SOME FEDERAL 849 00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:43,634 ABLE TO PULL DOWN SOME FEDERAL DOLLARS, MUCH TO THE DISMAY OF 850 00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:45,836 DOLLARS, MUCH TO THE DISMAY OF MANY MEMBERS OF HER OWN PARTY, 851 00:26:45,838 --> 00:26:47,438 MANY MEMBERS OF HER OWN PARTY, TO EXPAND MEDICAID TO MORE 852 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:47,771 TO EXPAND MEDICAID TO MORE PEOPLE. 853 00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,774 PEOPLE. THE LEGISLATURE SAID BECAUSE OF 854 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:52,643 THE LEGISLATURE SAID BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WAS FUNDED, THE 855 00:26:52,645 --> 00:26:54,612 THE WAY THAT WAS FUNDED, THE STATE'S MATCH ON IT, IT'S 856 00:26:54,614 --> 00:26:54,979 STATE'S MATCH ON IT, IT'S ILLEGAL. 857 00:26:54,981 --> 00:26:57,147 ILLEGAL. IT'S NOW GOING TO BE UP TO THE 858 00:26:57,149 --> 00:26:57,948 IT'S NOW GOING TO BE UP TO THE SUPREME COURT. 859 00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:59,917 SUPREME COURT. THAT HEARING TAKES PLACE TWO 860 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:01,785 THAT HEARING TAKES PLACE TWO DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION SO THE 861 00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:03,287 DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION SO THE NEXT GOVERNOR, IF WE KNOW WHO 862 00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:04,788 NEXT GOVERNOR, IF WE KNOW WHO THAT IS AT THAT POINT, WILL HAVE 863 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:06,090 THAT IS AT THAT POINT, WILL HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S 864 00:27:06,092 --> 00:27:07,491 TO PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO FIGURE INTO THEIR 865 00:27:07,493 --> 00:27:07,825 GOING TO FIGURE INTO THEIR BUDGET. 866 00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:09,259 BUDGET. >> A LOT FOR THE NEXT GOVERNOR 867 00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:11,195 >> A LOT FOR THE NEXT GOVERNOR AND, OF COURSE, OTHER STATE 868 00:27:11,197 --> 00:27:12,496 AND, OF COURSE, OTHER STATE OFFICES TO HAVE TO BE INVOLVED 869 00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:14,832 OFFICES TO HAVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING 870 00:27:14,834 --> 00:27:15,232 WITH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. 871 00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:17,601 ON. MARY JO JOINING US FROM PHOENIX 872 00:27:17,603 --> 00:27:19,103 MARY JO JOINING US FROM PHOENIX AND CHRISTOPHER CONOVER FROM 873 00:27:19,105 --> 00:27:22,139 AND CHRISTOPHER CONOVER FROM ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA, THANK YOU 874 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:23,273 ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA, THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US. 875 00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:23,807 BOTH FOR JOINING US. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. 876 00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:25,643 THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. BE SURE TO JOIN US NEXT WEEK 877 00:27:25,645 --> 00:27:27,344 BE SURE TO JOIN US NEXT WEEK BECAUSE BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK 878 00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:30,381 BECAUSE BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK WE SHOULD KNOW WHO OUR STATE 879 00:27:30,383 --> 00:27:31,281 WE SHOULD KNOW WHO OUR STATE GOVERNOR AND STATE LEADERS ARE. 880 00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:32,816 GOVERNOR AND STATE LEADERS ARE. WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THE RACES 881 00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:34,351 WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THE RACES CLOSELY AND WILL HAVE LIVE 882 00:27:34,353 --> 00:27:35,653 CLOSELY AND WILL HAVE LIVE COVERAGE ON ELECTION NIGHT. 883 00:27:35,655 --> 00:27:36,587 COVERAGE ON ELECTION NIGHT. YOU CAN FIND ALL OF THAT 884 00:27:36,589 --> 00:27:39,256 YOU CAN FIND ALL OF THAT INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE. 885 00:27:39,258 --> 00:27:42,159 INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE. FOR ALL OF US HERE AT ARIZONA 886 00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:45,863 FOR ALL OF US HERE AT ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA, I'M LORRAINE 887 00:27:45,865 --> 00:27:46,196 PUBLIC MEDIA, I'M LORRAINE RIVERA. 888 00:27:46,198 --> 00:27:47,197 RIVERA. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.