HEAD TO THE POLLS.
A POLITICAL STRATEGIST WEIGHS IN

A POLITICAL STRATEGIST WEIGHS IN
BEHIND THE SCENE ON A MIDTERM

BEHIND THE SCENE ON A MIDTERM
ELECTION.

ELECTION.
>> RIGHT NOW IT'S DIRECT CONTACT

>> RIGHT NOW IT'S DIRECT CONTACT
AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALMOST

AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALMOST
LIMITED IN THEIR RESOURCES.

LIMITED IN THEIR RESOURCES.
>>> PLUS, THE STATE'S MAIN

>>> PLUS, THE STATE'S MAIN
OFFICES UP FOR GRABS.

OFFICES UP FOR GRABS.
COULD THIS ELECTION CHANGE

COULD THIS ELECTION CHANGE
ARIZONA'S POLITICAL LANDSCAPE

ARIZONA'S POLITICAL LANDSCAPE
AND MAYBE SIGNAL A CHANGE

AND MAYBE SIGNAL A CHANGE
NATIONALLY?

NATIONALLY?
>> IF YOU HAVE NATIONAL

>> IF YOU HAVE NATIONAL
CANDIDATES DO WELL IN ARIZONA,

CANDIDATES DO WELL IN ARIZONA,
AND ARIZONA IS AN EARLY PRIMARY

AND ARIZONA IS AN EARLY PRIMARY
STATE, THAT'S A MICROCOSM OF HOW

STATE, THAT'S A MICROCOSM OF HOW
WELL YOU MAY DO IN THE WEST.

WELL YOU MAY DO IN THE WEST.
>> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."

>> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
¶

¶
>> ON TUESDAY, VOTERS WILL HEAD

>> ON TUESDAY, VOTERS WILL HEAD
TO THE POLLS.

TO THE POLLS.
IN FACT, MANY HAVE ALREADY VOTED

IN FACT, MANY HAVE ALREADY VOTED
BY MAIL.

BY MAIL.
MARIO DIAZ IS A POLITICAL

MARIO DIAZ IS A POLITICAL
STRATEGIST IN PHOENIX WHO HAS

STRATEGIST IN PHOENIX WHO HAS
EXPERIENCED ARIZONA POLITICS.

EXPERIENCED ARIZONA POLITICS.
HE'S A DEMOCRAT WHO SAYS WE'RE

HE'S A DEMOCRAT WHO SAYS WE'RE
WITNESSING POLITICAL HISTORY IN

WITNESSING POLITICAL HISTORY IN
THE STATE.

THE STATE.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ARIZONA'S

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ARIZONA'S
POLITICAL LANDSCAPE?

POLITICAL LANDSCAPE?
WHAT'S CHANGING?

WHAT'S CHANGING?
>> WELL, I THINK WE'RE IN THE

>> WELL, I THINK WE'RE IN THE
MIDDLE OF A POLITICAL

MIDDLE OF A POLITICAL
TRANSFORMATION IN ARIZONA.

TRANSFORMATION IN ARIZONA.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MICROCOSM OF

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MICROCOSM OF
POLITICS, YOU LOOK AT TUCSON

POLITICS, YOU LOOK AT TUCSON
WHERE A FEW YEARS AGO YOU HAD A

WHERE A FEW YEARS AGO YOU HAD A
REPUBLICAN MAYOR AND NOW YOU

REPUBLICAN MAYOR AND NOW YOU
HAVE A DEMOCRATIC MAYOR.

HAVE A DEMOCRATIC MAYOR.
YOU HAVE A REPUBLICAN AND A

YOU HAVE A REPUBLICAN AND A
GENERALLY DEMOCRATIC AREA.

GENERALLY DEMOCRATIC AREA.
YOU LOOK AT OUR STATEWIDE

YOU LOOK AT OUR STATEWIDE
OFFICES WHERE YOU HAVE

OFFICES WHERE YOU HAVE
CANDIDATES THAT ONE COULD -- MAY

CANDIDATES THAT ONE COULD -- MAY
NOT HAVE IMAGINED A FEW YEARS

NOT HAVE IMAGINED A FEW YEARS
AGO THAT HAS A POTENTIAL OF

AGO THAT HAS A POTENTIAL OF
WINNING A STATEWIDE OFFICE AND

WINNING A STATEWIDE OFFICE AND
DR. DAVID GARCIA FOR STATE

DR. DAVID GARCIA FOR STATE
SUPERINTENDENT.

SUPERINTENDENT.
THIS IS A POLITICAL

THIS IS A POLITICAL
TRANSFORMATION HAPPENING RIGHT

TRANSFORMATION HAPPENING RIGHT
BEFORE OUR EYES.

BEFORE OUR EYES.
>> ARIZONA HAS TRADITIONALLY

>> ARIZONA HAS TRADITIONALLY
BEEN A REPUBLICAN STATE.

BEEN A REPUBLICAN STATE.
IF SOME STATE OFFICES END UP IN

IF SOME STATE OFFICES END UP IN
THE DEMOCRATIC REALM THIS

THE DEMOCRATIC REALM THIS
ELECTION, DOES THAT MEAN WE ARE

ELECTION, DOES THAT MEAN WE ARE
IN FOR A CHANGE AND ARIZONA IS

IN FOR A CHANGE AND ARIZONA IS
ABOUT TO BECOME A DEMOCRATIC

ABOUT TO BECOME A DEMOCRATIC
STATE AS WE KNOW IT?

STATE AS WE KNOW IT?
>> I THINK THAT ARIZONA HAS BEEN

>> I THINK THAT ARIZONA HAS BEEN
A REPUBLICAN STATE OR DOMINATED

A REPUBLICAN STATE OR DOMINATED
BY ONE PARTY BECAUSE A DEMOCRAT

BY ONE PARTY BECAUSE A DEMOCRAT
PARTY IN A CERTAIN WAY HAS

PARTY IN A CERTAIN WAY HAS
ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN.

ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN.
WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE VOTERS --

WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE VOTERS --
AND I SAY "WE" BECAUSE I'M A

AND I SAY "WE" BECAUSE I'M A
DEMOCRAT -- WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE

DEMOCRAT -- WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE
VOTERS CANDIDATES LIKE WE HAVE

VOTERS CANDIDATES LIKE WE HAVE
IN THE PAST FEW CYCLES, QUITE

IN THE PAST FEW CYCLES, QUITE
FRANKLY.

FRANKLY.
NOW YOU HAVE TERRY GODDARD, FRED

NOW YOU HAVE TERRY GODDARD, FRED
DUVAL, WE HAD JANET NAPOLITANO.

DUVAL, WE HAD JANET NAPOLITANO.
SMART CANDIDATES, PASSIONATE

SMART CANDIDATES, PASSIONATE
CANDIDATES, NOT JUST A CANDIDATE

CANDIDATES, NOT JUST A CANDIDATE
TO FILL THE BALLOT.

TO FILL THE BALLOT.
AND SO NOW YOU'RE SEEING THE

AND SO NOW YOU'RE SEEING THE
RESULTS.

RESULTS.
WE HAVE 33% OF THE POPULATION IN

WE HAVE 33% OF THE POPULATION IN
ARIZONA AS INDEPENDENT, 33%

ARIZONA AS INDEPENDENT, 33%
REPUBLICAN AND 33% DEMOCRAT.

REPUBLICAN AND 33% DEMOCRAT.
EVERY STATE OFFICE IS IN PLAY

EVERY STATE OFFICE IS IN PLAY
RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW.
>> AS A STRATEGIST, WHAT IS THE

>> AS A STRATEGIST, WHAT IS THE
MINDSET RIGHT NOW?

MINDSET RIGHT NOW?
>> THE BULK OF THE VOTERS HAS

>> THE BULK OF THE VOTERS HAS
ALREADY TURNED IN THEIR EARLY

ALREADY TURNED IN THEIR EARLY
BALLOTS.

BALLOTS.
SO NOW WE HAVE THE ELECTION DAY

SO NOW WE HAVE THE ELECTION DAY
VOTERS OR THOSE HOLDING ON TO

VOTERS OR THOSE HOLDING ON TO
BALLOTS, WHICH THERE ARE STILL A

BALLOTS, WHICH THERE ARE STILL A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
RIGHT NOW IT'S DIRECT CONTACT

RIGHT NOW IT'S DIRECT CONTACT
AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALMOST

AND THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALMOST
LIMITING -- LIMITED IN THEIR

LIMITING -- LIMITED IN THEIR
RESOURCES.

RESOURCES.
SO THIS FACTOR OUTSIDE MONEY,

SO THIS FACTOR OUTSIDE MONEY,
DARK MONEY, AS WE CALL IT, AS IT

DARK MONEY, AS WE CALL IT, AS IT
HAS BEEN CALLED, IS PLAYING A

HAS BEEN CALLED, IS PLAYING A
SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO SHORE UP THE

SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO SHORE UP THE
LAST TWO WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN.

LAST TWO WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN.
>> EVERY CAMPAIGN WE HEAR, EVERY

>> EVERY CAMPAIGN WE HEAR, EVERY
ELECTION SEASON WE SEE LOTS OF

ELECTION SEASON WE SEE LOTS OF
MONEY COMING IN.

MONEY COMING IN.
EVERY YEAR IT BECOMES MORE AND

EVERY YEAR IT BECOMES MORE AND
GREATER.

GREATER.
SO WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING

SO WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING
FROM AND YOU SAY DARK MONEY.

FROM AND YOU SAY DARK MONEY.
>> WELL, LOOK, IT'S WHAT IT IS

>> WELL, LOOK, IT'S WHAT IT IS
TERMED.

TERMED.
I DON'T CALL IT THAT.

I DON'T CALL IT THAT.
IT LOOKS GREEN TO ME.

IT LOOKS GREEN TO ME.
BUT I WOULD SAY THERE'S JUST SO

BUT I WOULD SAY THERE'S JUST SO
MUCH VESTED INTEREST NOW IN OUR

MUCH VESTED INTEREST NOW IN OUR
STATE.

STATE.
THE STATE IS GROWING.

THE STATE IS GROWING.
WE ARE TRANSFORMING OUR ECONOMY

WE ARE TRANSFORMING OUR ECONOMY
FROM MORE OF A BASIC JOB ECONOMY

FROM MORE OF A BASIC JOB ECONOMY
LIKE TELEMARKETING.

LIKE TELEMARKETING.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT
BUT WE'RE TAKING IT TO A

BUT WE'RE TAKING IT TO A
DIFFERENT LEVEL OF HEALTH CARE

DIFFERENT LEVEL OF HEALTH CARE
TO MANUFACTURING, ELECTRONICS.

TO MANUFACTURING, ELECTRONICS.
AND SO THERE'S MORE VESTED

AND SO THERE'S MORE VESTED
INTEREST IN PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING

INTEREST IN PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING
TO DECIDE PUBLIC POLICY.

TO DECIDE PUBLIC POLICY.
AND LET ME TELL YOU, LORRAINE,

AND LET ME TELL YOU, LORRAINE,
PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THIS OUTSIDE

PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THIS OUTSIDE
MONEY BUT UNTIL IT'S NOT THE

MONEY BUT UNTIL IT'S NOT THE
LAW, THIS IS PART OF OUR

LAW, THIS IS PART OF OUR
CONSTITUTION.

CONSTITUTION.
IT'S PART OF OUR DEMOCRACY.

IT'S PART OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
WE CAN LIKE IT OR NOT BUT IT'S

WE CAN LIKE IT OR NOT BUT IT'S
HERE TO STAY.

HERE TO STAY.
>> WHY DO HISPANICS IN THE STATE

>> WHY DO HISPANICS IN THE STATE
OF ARIZONA, WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN

OF ARIZONA, WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN
A L

A L
HIGH LEVEL OF POLITICAL

HIGH LEVEL OF POLITICAL
CANDIDATE?

CANDIDATE?
WHY IS ARIZONA LEFT OUT OF THE

WHY IS ARIZONA LEFT OUT OF THE
MIX?

MIX?
>> THE SOUTHWEST HAS -- WE'VE

>> THE SOUTHWEST HAS -- WE'VE
LAGGED BEHIND THE SOUTHWEST IN

LAGGED BEHIND THE SOUTHWEST IN
THAT DEPARTMENT.

THAT DEPARTMENT.
A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH,

A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH,
FIRST OF ALL, IF LATINOS WANT TO

FIRST OF ALL, IF LATINOS WANT TO
GET ELECTED OR LATINAS WANT TO

GET ELECTED OR LATINAS WANT TO
GET ELECTED, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

GET ELECTED, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NOW WE'RE SEEING THEM RUNNING

NOW WE'RE SEEING THEM RUNNING
FOR OFFICE AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW,

FOR OFFICE AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW,
WE'RE PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL.

WE'RE PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL.
WE LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE,

WE LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE,
ACROSS THE STATE, WE'RE IN

ACROSS THE STATE, WE'RE IN
SCHOOL BOARDS, WE'RE IN COUNTY

SCHOOL BOARDS, WE'RE IN COUNTY
SUPERVISORY POSITIONS AND NOW

SUPERVISORY POSITIONS AND NOW
WE'RE RIDING FOR STATEWIDE

WE'RE RIDING FOR STATEWIDE
OFFICES.

OFFICES.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THE

WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THE
LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY

LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY
FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND

FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND
TELLING ITSELF, WE ARE IMPORTANT

TELLING ITSELF, WE ARE IMPORTANT
IN THIS ELECTORAL PROCESS.

IN THIS ELECTORAL PROCESS.
>> WHY DO HISPANICS

>> WHY DO HISPANICS
TRADITIONALLY VOTE DEMOCRATIC?

TRADITIONALLY VOTE DEMOCRATIC?
>> LATINOS HAVE A LONG HISTORY,

>> LATINOS HAVE A LONG HISTORY,
A LONG HISTORY, AS YOU KNOW,

A LONG HISTORY, AS YOU KNOW,
WITH THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.

WITH THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.
WE STILL HAVE SHRINES OF THE

WE STILL HAVE SHRINES OF THE
KENNEDY FAMILY IN OUR HOUSES.

KENNEDY FAMILY IN OUR HOUSES.
AND SO THAT HISTORY HAS STAYED

AND SO THAT HISTORY HAS STAYED
WITH US.

WITH US.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL
LANDSCAPE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE

LANDSCAPE, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE
LATINO REPUBLICANS, GOVERNOR IN

LATINO REPUBLICANS, GOVERNOR IN
NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO, MARTINEZ,

NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO, MARTINEZ,
THE SENATORS IN FLORIDA AND IN

THE SENATORS IN FLORIDA AND IN
OTHER PLACES WHERE -- AND IN

OTHER PLACES WHERE -- AND IN
TEXAS.

TEXAS.
WHERE NOW IF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY

WHERE NOW IF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY
IS NOT CAREFUL, I THINK THE

IS NOT CAREFUL, I THINK THE
REPUBLICANS ARE ONTO SOMETHING

REPUBLICANS ARE ONTO SOMETHING
ABOUT THE TYPE OF CANDIDATE THAT

ABOUT THE TYPE OF CANDIDATE THAT
THEY ARE PUTTING OUT TO ATTRACT

THEY ARE PUTTING OUT TO ATTRACT
LATINOS.

LATINOS.
BUT STILL, WE ARE A LOYAL GROUP

BUT STILL, WE ARE A LOYAL GROUP
AND LATINOS ARE CANDIDATES

AND LATINOS ARE CANDIDATES
FOR -- DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ARE

FOR -- DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ARE
RIGHT ON THE ISSUE IMPORTANT TO

RIGHT ON THE ISSUE IMPORTANT TO
OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR COMMUNITY.
>> LOCALLY HERE IN ARIZONA,

>> LOCALLY HERE IN ARIZONA,
MARICOPA COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY

MARICOPA COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY
REPUBLICAN.

REPUBLICAN.
PIMA COUNTY MOSTLY DEMOCRAT BUT

PIMA COUNTY MOSTLY DEMOCRAT BUT
YOU'RE SAYING THAT COULD SHIFT?

YOU'RE SAYING THAT COULD SHIFT?
>> I BELIEVE IF A DEMOCRAT

>> I BELIEVE IF A DEMOCRAT
CANDIDATE FEELS THAT THERE'S A

CANDIDATE FEELS THAT THERE'S A
LOSING CAUSE BECAUSE MARICOPA

LOSING CAUSE BECAUSE MARICOPA
COUNTY IS PREDOMINANTLY

COUNTY IS PREDOMINANTLY
REPUBLICAN OR HAS HAD A HISTORY

REPUBLICAN OR HAS HAD A HISTORY
OF IT BEING REPUBLICAN, THEN

OF IT BEING REPUBLICAN, THEN
THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE

THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE
DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT IN OUR

DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT IN OUR
GOVERNMENT OFFICES, ELECTED

GOVERNMENT OFFICES, ELECTED
OFFICIALS.

OFFICIALS.
WE HAVE TO GET OVER THAT.

WE HAVE TO GET OVER THAT.
ARE THEY CANDIDATES?

ARE THEY CANDIDATES?
ARE THEY A CANDIDATE?

ARE THEY A CANDIDATE?
THE CANDIDATE HAS TO BE ABLE TO

THE CANDIDATE HAS TO BE ABLE TO
REACH OUT TO POLITICAL AISLES

REACH OUT TO POLITICAL AISLES
AND ONCE THE CANDIDATE DOES

AND ONCE THE CANDIDATE DOES
THAT, IT IS POSSIBLE.

THAT, IT IS POSSIBLE.
>> ARIZONA HAS NEVER BEEN A

>> ARIZONA HAS NEVER BEEN A
SWING STATE BUT ARE YOU SAYING

SWING STATE BUT ARE YOU SAYING
THAT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IT

THAT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IT
COULD BE?

COULD BE?
>> LOOK, IF I'M SITTING THERE

>> LOOK, IF I'M SITTING THERE
ADVISING BUSH, JEB BUSH FOR 2016

ADVISING BUSH, JEB BUSH FOR 2016
OR HILLARY CLINTON ABOUT 2016,

OR HILLARY CLINTON ABOUT 2016,
ABOUT ARIZONA, GIVEN WHAT IS

ABOUT ARIZONA, GIVEN WHAT IS
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ONE

HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ONE
STATE THAT IS ON MY RADAR SCREEN

STATE THAT IS ON MY RADAR SCREEN
AS A POTENTIAL SWING STATE FOR

AS A POTENTIAL SWING STATE FOR
THE DEMOCRATS.

THE DEMOCRATS.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONE REPUBLICAN

OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONE REPUBLICAN
EXCEPT FOR WHEN PRESIDENT

EXCEPT FOR WHEN PRESIDENT
CLINTON RAN BUT I THINK THIS

CLINTON RAN BUT I THINK THIS
STATE COULD BE IN PLAY IN 2016.

STATE COULD BE IN PLAY IN 2016.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS ELECTION IS

AND THAT'S WHY THIS ELECTION IS
SO IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHY

SO IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHY
PARTLY YOU HAVE SO MUCH OUTSIDE

PARTLY YOU HAVE SO MUCH OUTSIDE
MONEY FROM NATIONAL POLITICAL

MONEY FROM NATIONAL POLITICAL
ORGANIZATIONS THAT PLAY BECAUSE

ORGANIZATIONS THAT PLAY BECAUSE
2016 IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL FOR

2016 IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL FOR
THEIR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.

THEIR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
>> IS ARIZONA'S POLITICAL PATH,

>> IS ARIZONA'S POLITICAL PATH,
DOES THAT PLAY A FACTOR RIGHT

DOES THAT PLAY A FACTOR RIGHT
NOW?

NOW?
>> I THINK LITTLE BY LITTLE,

>> I THINK LITTLE BY LITTLE,
ARIZONA IS GETTING OVER THE

ARIZONA IS GETTING OVER THE
UNFORTUNATE, UGLY TIME PERIOD WE

UNFORTUNATE, UGLY TIME PERIOD WE
HAD WITH RUSSELL PEARCE AND THE

HAD WITH RUSSELL PEARCE AND THE
OTHER INITIATIVES WITH -- THAT

OTHER INITIATIVES WITH -- THAT
APPEAR TO BE ANTI-LGBT,

APPEAR TO BE ANTI-LGBT,
ANTI-MINORITY, WE'RE GETTING

ANTI-MINORITY, WE'RE GETTING
OVER THAT, IN MY OPINION.

OVER THAT, IN MY OPINION.
>>> HERE NOW IS MY INTERVIEW

>>> HERE NOW IS MY INTERVIEW
WITH A MAN WHO WAS BORN AND

WITH A MAN WHO WAS BORN AND
RAISED IN NOGALES AND SERVED AS

RAISED IN NOGALES AND SERVED AS
SUPERINTENDENT FOR ARIZONA

SUPERINTENDENT FOR ARIZONA
PUBLIC INSTRUCTION.

PUBLIC INSTRUCTION.
HE RUNS A GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC

HE RUNS A GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC
AFFAIRS FIRM IN THE PHOENIX

AFFAIRS FIRM IN THE PHOENIX
AREA.

AREA.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DAYS TO

WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DAYS TO
GO.

GO.
WHAT ARE THE REPUBLICANS DOING

WHAT ARE THE REPUBLICANS DOING
TO GEAR UP FOR THE BIG DAY?

TO GEAR UP FOR THE BIG DAY?
>> IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING YOUR

>> IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING YOUR
BASE OUT AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S

BASE OUT AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S
WHY I THINK DUCEY HAS AN

WHY I THINK DUCEY HAS AN
ADVANTAGE.

ADVANTAGE.
IF HE GET REPUBLICANS MOTIVATED

IF HE GET REPUBLICANS MOTIVATED
TO VOTE AND WE HAVE A PRETTY

TO VOTE AND WE HAVE A PRETTY
GOOD GAP OF REPUBLICANS

GOOD GAP OF REPUBLICANS
OUTWEIGHING THE DEMOCRATS, YOU

OUTWEIGHING THE DEMOCRATS, YOU
KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL

KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL
TO HIM.

TO HIM.
BUT CERTAINLY FRED DUVAL NEEDS

BUT CERTAINLY FRED DUVAL NEEDS
TO MAKE SURE AS MANY DEMOCRATS

TO MAKE SURE AS MANY DEMOCRATS
COME OUT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE

COME OUT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE
THEY JUST CAN'T GIVE UP THAT

THEY JUST CAN'T GIVE UP THAT
MUCH GROUND.

MUCH GROUND.
>> WE HAVE A FEW CONTESTED

>> WE HAVE A FEW CONTESTED
RACES.

RACES.
ATTORNEY GENERAL, SECRETARY OF

ATTORNEY GENERAL, SECRETARY OF
STATE, PUBLIC INSTRUCTION.

STATE, PUBLIC INSTRUCTION.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THESE RACES

WHERE DO YOU SEE THESE RACES
GOING OR IS IT TOO EARLY TO

GOING OR IS IT TOO EARLY TO
TELL?

TELL?
>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE

>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE
TIGHT.

TIGHT.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME VERY

WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME VERY
SPIRITED CAMPAIGNS BUT I THINK

SPIRITED CAMPAIGNS BUT I THINK
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AS A

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AS A
REPUBLICAN YEAR.

REPUBLICAN YEAR.
I MEAN, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF

I MEAN, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF
ARIZONA BUT NATIONALLY.

ARIZONA BUT NATIONALLY.
THERE'S A LOT OF THE POLITICAL

THERE'S A LOT OF THE POLITICAL
PUNDITS SORT OF THINKING THAT

PUNDITS SORT OF THINKING THAT
THE SENATE IS GOING TO SWING

THE SENATE IS GOING TO SWING
BACK TO THE REPUBLICANS, THE

BACK TO THE REPUBLICANS, THE
U.S. SENATE.

U.S. SENATE.
THEY ARE GOING TO GAIN A LOT OF

THEY ARE GOING TO GAIN A LOT OF
GROUND ON THE -- IN CONGRESS.

GROUND ON THE -- IN CONGRESS.
AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO
TRANSLATE, ESPECIALLY IN A STATE

TRANSLATE, ESPECIALLY IN A STATE
LIKE ARIZONA, AND IF YOU HAVE A

LIKE ARIZONA, AND IF YOU HAVE A
LOW VOTER TURNOUT AND YOU HAVE

LOW VOTER TURNOUT AND YOU HAVE
MORE REPUBLICANS FIRED UP TO

MORE REPUBLICANS FIRED UP TO
VOTE, IT JUST BODES WELL AND IT

VOTE, IT JUST BODES WELL AND IT
BODES WELL WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE

BODES WELL WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE
TICKET.

TICKET.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, FELICIA

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, FELICIA
RODALINI IS A STRONG CANDIDATE

RODALINI IS A STRONG CANDIDATE
AND YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT

AND YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT
RACE IS A TOSS-UP.

RACE IS A TOSS-UP.
SAME THING WITH THE STATE SCHOOL

SAME THING WITH THE STATE SCHOOL
SUPERINTENDENT.

SUPERINTENDENT.
EVERYTHING HAS TO GO TO -- THOSE

EVERYTHING HAS TO GO TO -- THOSE
CAMPAIGNS HAVE TO GO RIGHT FOR

CAMPAIGNS HAVE TO GO RIGHT FOR
THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN AND RIGHT

THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN AND RIGHT
NOW I'D GIVE THE EDGE TO THE

NOW I'D GIVE THE EDGE TO THE
REPUBLICANS.

REPUBLICANS.
>> ARIZONA IS TRADITIONALLY A

>> ARIZONA IS TRADITIONALLY A
REPUBLICAN STATE BUT YOU'RE

REPUBLICAN STATE BUT YOU'RE
SAYING THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS

SAYING THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS
NECESSARILY MEAN THE SAME THING.

NECESSARILY MEAN THE SAME THING.
>> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

>> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
CANDIDATES MATTER.

CANDIDATES MATTER.
THE WAY THEY RUN THEIR CAMPAIGNS

THE WAY THEY RUN THEIR CAMPAIGNS
ABSOLUTELY MATTER.

ABSOLUTELY MATTER.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD 175,000 MORE

BUT WHEN YOU ADD 175,000 MORE
REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS, WHEN

REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS, WHEN
YOU ADD MOTIVATIONAL FACTORS

YOU ADD MOTIVATIONAL FACTORS
THERE, THE LOW PRESIDENTIAL

THERE, THE LOW PRESIDENTIAL
NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN LIKE AN

NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN LIKE AN
ANCHOR FOR DEMOCRATS, EVEN WITH

ANCHOR FOR DEMOCRATS, EVEN WITH
OUR CONGRESSIONAL RACES, PATRICK

OUR CONGRESSIONAL RACES, PATRICK
UP NORTH, IT STARTS TO HAVE A

UP NORTH, IT STARTS TO HAVE A
TOLL.

TOLL.
AND SO IF REPUBLICANS GET OUT

AND SO IF REPUBLICANS GET OUT
THERE, IT COULD BE A LONG NIGHT

THERE, IT COULD BE A LONG NIGHT
FOR THE DEMS.

FOR THE DEMS.
>> A LOT OF HISPANICS IN

>> A LOT OF HISPANICS IN
ARIZONA, THE LATINOS.

ARIZONA, THE LATINOS.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS
TIME AROUND?

TIME AROUND?
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S BEEN

>> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S BEEN
THE ACHILLES HEEL NOT JUST FOR

THE ACHILLES HEEL NOT JUST FOR
THE DEMOCRATS BUT WE DON'T HAVE

THE DEMOCRATS BUT WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH LATINO TURNOUT AND THAT'S

ENOUGH LATINO TURNOUT AND THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO

SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO
ADDRESS AT SOME POINT.

ADDRESS AT SOME POINT.
I THINK IT STEMS FROM THE WAY

I THINK IT STEMS FROM THE WAY
THAT WE GERRYMANDER DISTRICTS

THAT WE GERRYMANDER DISTRICTS
AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE

AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE
FIGHTING FOR THE HONOR TO HAVE

FIGHTING FOR THE HONOR TO HAVE
LATINOS VOTE FOR THEM AND I

LATINOS VOTE FOR THEM AND I
THINK IT STARTS TO TAKE A TOLL.

THINK IT STARTS TO TAKE A TOLL.
>> ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF

>> ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF
THINGS, WE'VE SEEN HIGH-LEVEL

THINGS, WE'VE SEEN HIGH-LEVEL
CANDIDATES IN NEVADA, NEW

CANDIDATES IN NEVADA, NEW
MEXICO, TEXAS, FLORIDA.

MEXICO, TEXAS, FLORIDA.
BUT ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT

BUT ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT
OUT OF THE MIX.

OUT OF THE MIX.
WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG,

WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG,
HISPANIC REPUBLICAN REPRESENT

HISPANIC REPUBLICAN REPRESENT
THE STATE?

THE STATE?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
IN NEVADA YOU HAVE SUSAN

IN NEVADA YOU HAVE SUSAN
MARTINEZ IN NEW MEXICO AND I

MARTINEZ IN NEW MEXICO AND I
THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL HAPPEN

THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL HAPPEN
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE NOT

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE NOT
SEEN REPUBLICANS, IN MY OPINION,

SEEN REPUBLICANS, IN MY OPINION,
GO AFTER THOSE CANDIDATES AND

GO AFTER THOSE CANDIDATES AND
RECRUIT THEM THE WAY THAT I

RECRUIT THEM THE WAY THAT I
THINK THAT THEY SHOULD.

THINK THAT THEY SHOULD.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT MONEY.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT MONEY.
EVERY YEAR WE SAY, EVERY

EVERY YEAR WE SAY, EVERY
ELECTION YEAR SEEMS TO BE MORE

ELECTION YEAR SEEMS TO BE MORE
COMING AT US.

COMING AT US.
THIS TIME AROUND, WE'RE REALLY

THIS TIME AROUND, WE'RE REALLY
TALKING SOME HEAVY CASH.

TALKING SOME HEAVY CASH.
SO HOW DOES THAT INFLUENCE THE

SO HOW DOES THAT INFLUENCE THE
OUTCOME?

OUTCOME?
>> OH, IT HAS A HUGE INFLUENCE.

>> OH, IT HAS A HUGE INFLUENCE.
BUT IT STEMS FROM THE SUPREME

BUT IT STEMS FROM THE SUPREME
COURT DECISION.

COURT DECISION.
THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING,

THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING,
WHICH ALLOWED FOR AN INFLUX OF

WHICH ALLOWED FOR AN INFLUX OF
SO-CALLED DARK MONEY,

SO-CALLED DARK MONEY,
INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES HAS

INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES HAS
CHANGED THE WAY CAMPAIGNS ARE

CHANGED THE WAY CAMPAIGNS ARE
RUN.

RUN.
IF YOU LOOK AT ANDY TOBIN WHO IS

IF YOU LOOK AT ANDY TOBIN WHO IS
RUNNING IN CONGRESSIONAL

RUNNING IN CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICT 1 AGAINST ANN

DISTRICT 1 AGAINST ANN
KIRKPATRICK, SHE'S OUTRAISED HIM

KIRKPATRICK, SHE'S OUTRAISED HIM
TWO TO ONE.

TWO TO ONE.
SOME ACCUSE TOBIN AS NOT BEING A

SOME ACCUSE TOBIN AS NOT BEING A
STRONG CAMPAIGNER BUT HE'S NECK

STRONG CAMPAIGNER BUT HE'S NECK
IN NECK WITH KIRKPATRICK.

IN NECK WITH KIRKPATRICK.
YOU HAVE THE U.S. CHAMBER OF

YOU HAVE THE U.S. CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE PUMP MILLIONS AND

COMMERCE PUMP MILLIONS AND
MILLIONS INTO THAT RACE AND ALL

MILLIONS INTO THAT RACE AND ALL
OF A SUDDEN TOBIN IS

OF A SUDDEN TOBIN IS
NECK-AND-NECK AND SOME PEOPLE

NECK-AND-NECK AND SOME PEOPLE
THINK HE WILL PULL THAT OUT.

THINK HE WILL PULL THAT OUT.
IF IT WASN'T FOR THE OUTSIDE

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE OUTSIDE
EXPENDITURES.

EXPENDITURES.
>> THE 2016 ELECTION IS NOT FAR

>> THE 2016 ELECTION IS NOT FAR
AWAY.

AWAY.
WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR PRESIDENTIAL

WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR PRESIDENTIAL
RACES?

RACES?
>> WELL, IT WILL BE INTERESTING,

>> WELL, IT WILL BE INTERESTING,
BECAUSE IF CONSERVATIVES AND

BECAUSE IF CONSERVATIVES AND
REPUBLICANS DO AS WELL AS SOME

REPUBLICANS DO AS WELL AS SOME
PEOPLE ARE PREDICTING IN

PEOPLE ARE PREDICTING IN
NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, THEN I

NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, THEN I
THINK IT MIGHT HEARTEN PEOPLE

THINK IT MIGHT HEARTEN PEOPLE
LIKE A RAND PAUL OR TED CRUZ TO

LIKE A RAND PAUL OR TED CRUZ TO
SAY THERE'S A NATIONAL

SAY THERE'S A NATIONAL
REFERENDUM, WE NEED TO HAVE

REFERENDUM, WE NEED TO HAVE
STRONG CONSERVATIVES.

STRONG CONSERVATIVES.
WE NEED TO HAVE REAL

WE NEED TO HAVE REAL
QUOTE/UNQUOTE REPUBLICANS.

QUOTE/UNQUOTE REPUBLICANS.
AND SO IT WILL LEAD THEM, IN MY

AND SO IT WILL LEAD THEM, IN MY
OPINION, TO GO AFTER THE CHRIS

OPINION, TO GO AFTER THE CHRIS
CHRISTIES AND GO AFTER THE MORE

CHRISTIES AND GO AFTER THE MORE
MODERATE WING AND SAY,

MODERATE WING AND SAY,
REPUBLICANS CAN WIN IF WE STAY

REPUBLICANS CAN WIN IF WE STAY
TRUE AND HAVE THE REAL SO-CALLED

TRUE AND HAVE THE REAL SO-CALLED
CONSERVATIVES RUNNING AND I

CONSERVATIVES RUNNING AND I
THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN

THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN
INFLUENCE ON SOME PEOPLE'S

INFLUENCE ON SOME PEOPLE'S
DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY

DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY
WANT TO WIN.

WANT TO WIN.
>> ARIZONA IS NOT A SWING STATE.

>> ARIZONA IS NOT A SWING STATE.
SHOULD POLITICIANS, SHOULD BIG

SHOULD POLITICIANS, SHOULD BIG
PARTIES BE LOOKING AT IT SAYING

PARTIES BE LOOKING AT IT SAYING
WE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION?

WE NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION?
>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.
FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
ARIZONA IS STILL GROWING AND OUR

ARIZONA IS STILL GROWING AND OUR
ELECTORAL COLLEGE CONTINUES TO

ELECTORAL COLLEGE CONTINUES TO
GROW.

GROW.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE A BIG LATINO

BUT WE ALSO HAVE A BIG LATINO
POPULATION AND I THINK IF YOU

POPULATION AND I THINK IF YOU
HAVE NATIONAL CANDIDATES DO WELL

HAVE NATIONAL CANDIDATES DO WELL
IN ARIZONA, AND ALSO ARIZONA IS

IN ARIZONA, AND ALSO ARIZONA IS
ONE OF THE EARLY PRIMARY STATES,

ONE OF THE EARLY PRIMARY STATES,
TOO, YOU DO WELL IN ARIZONA,

TOO, YOU DO WELL IN ARIZONA,
THAT'S A MICROCOSM OF HOW WELL

THAT'S A MICROCOSM OF HOW WELL
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IN THE

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IN THE
WEST.

WEST.
AND SO I THINK ARIZONA'S STATURE

AND SO I THINK ARIZONA'S STATURE
IS STARTING TO GROW JUST FOR

IS STARTING TO GROW JUST FOR
THAT REASON.

THAT REASON.
¶

¶
>> THE BUZZ NOW JOINING US FROM

>> THE BUZZ NOW JOINING US FROM
PHOENIX IS MARY JOE PISTOL, THE

PHOENIX IS MARY JOE PISTOL, THE
ARIZONA STATE GOVERNMENT

ARIZONA STATE GOVERNMENT
REPORTER AT THE ARIZONA

REPORTER AT THE ARIZONA
REPUBLIC.

REPUBLIC.
AND MY COLLEAGUE, CHRISTOPHER

AND MY COLLEAGUE, CHRISTOPHER
CONOVER.

CONOVER.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.
MARY JO, NEW POLLS ARE COMING

MARY JO, NEW POLLS ARE COMING
OUT?

OUT?
>> THE CONSENSUS POLLS SHOW THAT

>> THE CONSENSUS POLLS SHOW THAT
THE REPUBLICAN DOUG DUCEY HAS A

THE REPUBLICAN DOUG DUCEY HAS A
DECENT LEAD IN THE GOVERNOR'S

DECENT LEAD IN THE GOVERNOR'S
RACE.

RACE.
SOME PEOPLE EXPECT HIM TO WIN BY

SOME PEOPLE EXPECT HIM TO WIN BY
AS MUCH AS 7 TO 8 POINTS.

AS MUCH AS 7 TO 8 POINTS.
FRED DUVAL'S CAMPAIGN PUSHES

FRED DUVAL'S CAMPAIGN PUSHES
BACK SAYING THAT THEY SEE OTHER

BACK SAYING THAT THEY SEE OTHER
POLLING THAT IT'S A VERY TIGHT

POLLING THAT IT'S A VERY TIGHT
RACE AND IT WILL ALL TURN ON

RACE AND IT WILL ALL TURN ON
INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS

INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS
GETTING OUT TO VOTE.

GETTING OUT TO VOTE.
THEY ARE NOT AS READY TO RETURN

THEY ARE NOT AS READY TO RETURN
THEIR EARLY BALLOTS AS

THEIR EARLY BALLOTS AS
REPUBLICANS.

REPUBLICANS.
BUT I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT IT

BUT I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT IT
LOOKS LIKE IT'S LEANING TOWARDS

LOOKS LIKE IT'S LEANING TOWARDS
DUCEY.

DUCEY.
>> AND CHRISTOPHER, YOU SEEM TO

>> AND CHRISTOPHER, YOU SEEM TO
BELIEVE THE SAME THING, BASED ON

BELIEVE THE SAME THING, BASED ON
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING?

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING?
>> BASED ON THE POLLS THAT MARY

>> BASED ON THE POLLS THAT MARY
JO AND I ARE SEEING APPARENTLY

JO AND I ARE SEEING APPARENTLY
THE SAME POLLS.

THE SAME POLLS.
THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND ALSO, AT LEAST HERE IN

AND ALSO, AT LEAST HERE IN
SOUTHERN ARIZONA, DEMOCRATS TEND

SOUTHERN ARIZONA, DEMOCRATS TEND
TO GET THEIR BALLOTS BACK

TO GET THEIR BALLOTS BACK
EARLIER AND REPUBLICANS TEND TO

EARLIER AND REPUBLICANS TEND TO
COME OUT AND VOTE ON ELECTION

COME OUT AND VOTE ON ELECTION
DAY.

DAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CD-2 RACE,

FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CD-2 RACE,
WHERE THE REPUBLICAN IN THAT

WHERE THE REPUBLICAN IN THAT
RACE WILL WIN ELECTION DAY BUT

RACE WILL WIN ELECTION DAY BUT
IT'S THE EARLY BALLOTS THAT

IT'S THE EARLY BALLOTS THAT
PUSHES THE DEMOCRAT OVER.

PUSHES THE DEMOCRAT OVER.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THIS

SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THIS
ALL PLAYS OUT.

ALL PLAYS OUT.
I GUESS WE'RE DOWN TO THE POINT

I GUESS WE'RE DOWN TO THE POINT
WHERE ONLY ONE POLL MATTERS AND

WHERE ONLY ONE POLL MATTERS AND
THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE ALL WAITING

THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE ALL WAITING
FOR TUESDAY NIGHT AT 8:00.

FOR TUESDAY NIGHT AT 8:00.
>> AND CHRISTOPHER, IN THE

>> AND CHRISTOPHER, IN THE
PROGRAM WE SAW SOME STRATEGISTS

PROGRAM WE SAW SOME STRATEGISTS
TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING

TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING
BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE

BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE
CAMPAIGN AND IT'S THAT LAST BIT

CAMPAIGN AND IT'S THAT LAST BIT
OF REACH TO VOTERS WHO ARE

OF REACH TO VOTERS WHO ARE
UNDECIDED OR MAYBE GOING TO THE

UNDECIDED OR MAYBE GOING TO THE
POLLS ON TUESDAY.

POLLS ON TUESDAY.
>> WE'RE INTO THE BARNSTORM

>> WE'RE INTO THE BARNSTORM
PORTION.

PORTION.
TERRY GODDARD, THE DEMOCRAT

TERRY GODDARD, THE DEMOCRAT
RUNNING FOR SECRETARY OF STATE,

RUNNING FOR SECRETARY OF STATE,
IS ON A STATEWIDE TOUR.

IS ON A STATEWIDE TOUR.
DOUG DUCEY KICKED ONE OFF TODAY

DOUG DUCEY KICKED ONE OFF TODAY
HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.

HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
HE'S APPEARING WITH A NUMBER OF

HE'S APPEARING WITH A NUMBER OF
CANDIDATES THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN

CANDIDATES THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN
ARIZONA.

ARIZONA.
FRED DUVAL IS HERE IN SOUTHERN

FRED DUVAL IS HERE IN SOUTHERN
ARIZONA WITH DR. JILL BIDEN, THE

ARIZONA WITH DR. JILL BIDEN, THE
VICE PRESIDENT'S WIFE STUMPING

VICE PRESIDENT'S WIFE STUMPING
WITH DEMOCRATS.

WITH DEMOCRATS.
WE'RE TO THAT POINT WHERE

WE'RE TO THAT POINT WHERE
IT'S -- SHAKE AS MANY HANDS AS

IT'S -- SHAKE AS MANY HANDS AS
YOU CAN AND GET AS MANY PEOPLE

YOU CAN AND GET AS MANY PEOPLE
TO EITHER SEND IN THOSE BALLOTS

TO EITHER SEND IN THOSE BALLOTS
OR VOTE ON TUESDAY.

OR VOTE ON TUESDAY.
>> MARY JO, YOU HAVE BEEN DOING

>> MARY JO, YOU HAVE BEEN DOING
THIS FOR A WHILE NOW.

THIS FOR A WHILE NOW.
HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THIS LAST

HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THIS LAST
MINUTE PUSH CAN MAKE A

MINUTE PUSH CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE FOR A CANDIDATE?

DIFFERENCE FOR A CANDIDATE?
>> OH, IT DEFINITELY CAN.

>> OH, IT DEFINITELY CAN.
ESPECIALLY IN VERY CLOSE RACES.

ESPECIALLY IN VERY CLOSE RACES.
THIS MIGHT MATTER MORE IN

THIS MIGHT MATTER MORE IN
LEGISLATIVE RACES WHERE YOU HAVE

LEGISLATIVE RACES WHERE YOU HAVE
A MUCH SMALLER POOL OF A

A MUCH SMALLER POOL OF A
UNIVERSE OF VOTERS THAT WOULD

UNIVERSE OF VOTERS THAT WOULD
DETERMINE IT.

DETERMINE IT.
YEAH, IT DEFINITELY CAN MAKE A

YEAH, IT DEFINITELY CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE.

DIFFERENCE.
>> AND WITH THAT LAST-MINUTE

>> AND WITH THAT LAST-MINUTE
PUSH, WE'RE ALSO SEEING HEAVY

PUSH, WE'RE ALSO SEEING HEAVY
CAMPAIGNING THROUGH THE

CAMPAIGNING THROUGH THE
AIRWAVES, RADIO AND TELEVISION.

AIRWAVES, RADIO AND TELEVISION.
A LOT OF MONEY THAT IT'S TAKING

A LOT OF MONEY THAT IT'S TAKING
TO REALLY MAKE THESE RACES

TO REALLY MAKE THESE RACES
COUNT.

COUNT.
WE'RE TALKING UPWARD OF 26

WE'RE TALKING UPWARD OF 26
MILLION.

MILLION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING
CHRISTOPHER?

CHRISTOPHER?
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING.
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE AND THE

COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE AND THE
CANDIDATES, ALSO, HAVE PLENTY OF

CANDIDATES, ALSO, HAVE PLENTY OF
MONEY THAT THEY ARE SPENDING.

MONEY THAT THEY ARE SPENDING.
SO FOR A COUPLE MORE DAYS, OUR

SO FOR A COUPLE MORE DAYS, OUR
AIRWAVES ARE GOING TO BE

AIRWAVES ARE GOING TO BE
INUNDATED.

INUNDATED.
THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF

THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF
OPEN SPACE LEFT IF SOMEBODY

OPEN SPACE LEFT IF SOMEBODY
WANTED TO BUY A LAST-MINUTE AD.

WANTED TO BUY A LAST-MINUTE AD.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT AVAILABLE AT

IT'S PROBABLY NOT AVAILABLE AT
THIS POINT.

THIS POINT.
>> MARY JO, IN THE PHOENIX AREA,

>> MARY JO, IN THE PHOENIX AREA,
I IMAGINE YOU'RE SEEING THOSE

I IMAGINE YOU'RE SEEING THOSE
ADS HIT THE AIRWAVES AS WELL?

ADS HIT THE AIRWAVES AS WELL?
>> OH, YEAH.

>> OH, YEAH.
YOU'RE SEEING CD-1 DOWN IN PINAL

YOU'RE SEEING CD-1 DOWN IN PINAL
COUNTY AND THE STATEWIDE MARKET

COUNTY AND THE STATEWIDE MARKET
COMES OUT OF PHOENIX.

COMES OUT OF PHOENIX.
YOU TUNE IN AT THE 10:00 HOUR AT

YOU TUNE IN AT THE 10:00 HOUR AT
NIGHT AND IT'S SOLID POLITICAL

NIGHT AND IT'S SOLID POLITICAL
ADS.

ADS.
I SHOULD ADD THAT THE 26 MILLION

I SHOULD ADD THAT THE 26 MILLION
IS IN OUTSIDE SPENDING.

IS IN OUTSIDE SPENDING.
AS CHRISTOPHER NOTED, ON TOP OF

AS CHRISTOPHER NOTED, ON TOP OF
THAT, YOU HAVE THE MONEY THAT

THAT, YOU HAVE THE MONEY THAT
THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES ARE

THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES ARE
SPENDING.

SPENDING.
THIS IS ADDING UP TO BE A VERY

THIS IS ADDING UP TO BE A VERY
EXPENSIVE ELECTION BUT THE

EXPENSIVE ELECTION BUT THE
BIGGER MONEY WILL COME FROM

BIGGER MONEY WILL COME FROM
OUTSIDE AND BY OUTSIDE MONEY, WE

OUTSIDE AND BY OUTSIDE MONEY, WE
MEAN POLITICAL ACTION

MEAN POLITICAL ACTION
COMMITTEES, INDEPENDENT

COMMITTEES, INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES, SOME WHO

EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES, SOME WHO
DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS, OTHERS

DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS, OTHERS
WHO DON'T.

WHO DON'T.
THAT COULD SEND THEM IN THE DARK

THAT COULD SEND THEM IN THE DARK
CATEGORY MONEY, WHICH HAS BEEN

CATEGORY MONEY, WHICH HAS BEEN
ANOTHER THEME RUNNING THROUGHOUT

ANOTHER THEME RUNNING THROUGHOUT
THIS ELECTION SIGHICYCLE.

THIS ELECTION SIGHICYCLE.
>> FELICIA RODALINI DECLINED THE

>> FELICIA RODALINI DECLINED THE
MONEY?

MONEY?
>> DARK MONEY HAS BECOME AN

>> DARK MONEY HAS BECOME AN
ISSUE IN THESE RACES.

ISSUE IN THESE RACES.
WE HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT IT IN

WE HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT IT IN
THE GOVERNOR ISSUE BUT IN THE

THE GOVERNOR ISSUE BUT IN THE
SECRETARY OF STATE RACE AND IN

SECRETARY OF STATE RACE AND IN
THE CORPORATION COMMISSION RACE,

THE CORPORATION COMMISSION RACE,
WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT DARK

WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT DARK
MONEY.

MONEY.
RODALIN ICH

RODALIN ICH
RODALINI HAS TURNED DOWN MONEY

RODALINI HAS TURNED DOWN MONEY
FROM THE DARK MONEY ACCOUNTS, IT

FROM THE DARK MONEY ACCOUNTS, IT
LOOKS LIKE, AND TERRY GODDARD

LOOKS LIKE, AND TERRY GODDARD
WAS A RECIPIENT AGAINST THE DARK

WAS A RECIPIENT AGAINST THE DARK
MONEY ORGANIZATION.

MONEY ORGANIZATION.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF DARK MONEY

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF DARK MONEY
NOTING AROUND.

NOTING AROUND.
SOME OF THESE -- I DON'T WANT TO

SOME OF THESE -- I DON'T WANT TO
CALL THEM SECOND-TIER RACES BUT

CALL THEM SECOND-TIER RACES BUT
RACES BELOW THE GOVERNOR RACE.

RACES BELOW THE GOVERNOR RACE.
>> AND THEY TALK ABOUT EVERY

>> AND THEY TALK ABOUT EVERY
ELECTION IT'S MORE MONEY EVERY

ELECTION IT'S MORE MONEY EVERY
SINGLE ELECTION.

SINGLE ELECTION.
SO AT WHAT POINT WILL IT HIT

SO AT WHAT POINT WILL IT HIT
THAT PEAK?

THAT PEAK?
AND ONE OF THEM SAYS IT'S THEIR

AND ONE OF THEM SAYS IT'S THEIR
RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO SPEND

RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO SPEND
MONEY.

MONEY.
MARY JO?

MARY JO?
>> OH, IT'S DEFINITELY THEIR

>> OH, IT'S DEFINITELY THEIR
RIGHT.

RIGHT.
IN FACT, A LOT OF THIS GOES BACK

IN FACT, A LOT OF THIS GOES BACK
TO THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING

TO THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING
FROM THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IN

FROM THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IN
2010 WHICH BASICALLY SAID THAT

2010 WHICH BASICALLY SAID THAT
THERE CANNOT BE LIMITS ON

THERE CANNOT BE LIMITS ON
CORPORATIONS AND OTHER GROUPS IN

CORPORATIONS AND OTHER GROUPS IN
TERMS OF THEIR CAMPAIGN

TERMS OF THEIR CAMPAIGN
SPENDING.

SPENDING.
THEN YOU HAD THAT OVERLAID WITH

THEN YOU HAD THAT OVERLAID WITH
SOME OF THE IRS RULES THAT RULED

SOME OF THE IRS RULES THAT RULED
POLITICAL NONPROFITS WHICH DO

POLITICAL NONPROFITS WHICH DO
NOT HAVE TO DISCLOSE THEIR

NOT HAVE TO DISCLOSE THEIR
DONORS IF AT LEAST 51% OF THEIR

DONORS IF AT LEAST 51% OF THEIR
ACTIVITY IS FOR A SOCIAL WELFARE

ACTIVITY IS FOR A SOCIAL WELFARE
CAUSE.

CAUSE.
THAT MEANS THEY CAN SPEND THE

THAT MEANS THEY CAN SPEND THE
REST ON POLITICAL ACTIVITIES

REST ON POLITICAL ACTIVITIES
WITHOUT NAMING WHO THEIR DONORS

WITHOUT NAMING WHO THEIR DONORS
ARE.

ARE.
SO IT'S CERTAINLY ALL VERY

SO IT'S CERTAINLY ALL VERY
LEGAL.

LEGAL.
I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT, YOU

I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT, YOU
KNOW, ONE, IT HELPS TO KNOW WHO

KNOW, ONE, IT HELPS TO KNOW WHO
THESE OUTSIDE INFLUENCES ARE FOR

THESE OUTSIDE INFLUENCES ARE FOR
THE MEDIA, FOR THE PUBLIC TO

THE MEDIA, FOR THE PUBLIC TO
UNDERSTAND WHO MIGHT BE TRYING

UNDERSTAND WHO MIGHT BE TRYING
TO PULL WHOSE STRINGS AND,

TO PULL WHOSE STRINGS AND,
SECONDLY, JUST THE MAGNITUDE OF

SECONDLY, JUST THE MAGNITUDE OF
THE MONEY.

THE MONEY.
YOU DO WONDER WHERE IT'S GOING

YOU DO WONDER WHERE IT'S GOING
TO STOP.

TO STOP.
>> ONE OF THE INTERESTING

>> ONE OF THE INTERESTING
THINGS, LORRAINE, I LOOKED AT

THINGS, LORRAINE, I LOOKED AT
THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2

THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2
SPENDING, WHICH IS NOT A

SPENDING, WHICH IS NOT A
STATEWIDE RACE, AT THE BEGINNING

STATEWIDE RACE, AT THE BEGINNING
OF THIS WEEK.

OF THIS WEEK.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2 AND 1

CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2 AND 1
WERE IN THE TOP TEN OF SPENDING

WERE IN THE TOP TEN OF SPENDING
FOR CONGRESSIONAL RACES IN THE

FOR CONGRESSIONAL RACES IN THE
NATION.

NATION.
AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1 AT

AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1 AT
THE VERY END OF LAST WEEK HAD

THE VERY END OF LAST WEEK HAD
THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF OUTSIDE

THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF OUTSIDE
MONEY BEING SPENT ON ANY

MONEY BEING SPENT ON ANY
CONGRESSIONAL RACE IN THE

CONGRESSIONAL RACE IN THE
NATION.

NATION.
NOW, THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED.

NOW, THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED.
WE WERE WATCHING SPENDING

WE WERE WATCHING SPENDING
UPWARDS OF $1 MILLION A DAY IN

UPWARDS OF $1 MILLION A DAY IN
SOME OF THE RACES EVEN IN

SOME OF THE RACES EVEN IN
ARIZONA BY OUTSIDE GROUPS SO

ARIZONA BY OUTSIDE GROUPS SO
THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT

THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT
EARLIER THIS WEEK, CD 1 WAS THE

EARLIER THIS WEEK, CD 1 WAS THE
MOST EXPENSIVE OUTSIDE MONEY

MOST EXPENSIVE OUTSIDE MONEY
RACE IN THE NATION.

RACE IN THE NATION.
>> CHRIS, YOU'VE BEEN COVERING

>> CHRIS, YOU'VE BEEN COVERING
THAT RACE PRETTY EXTENSIVELY.

THAT RACE PRETTY EXTENSIVELY.
WHY SPEND SO MUCH MONEY ON

WHY SPEND SO MUCH MONEY ON
KEEPING THAT SEAT?

KEEPING THAT SEAT?
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING SEAT

>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING SEAT
BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS DRAWN.

BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS DRAWN.
IT TOUCHES SOUTHERN ARIZONA,

IT TOUCHES SOUTHERN ARIZONA,
NORTHERN PIMA COUNTY AND ALL THE

NORTHERN PIMA COUNTY AND ALL THE
WAY UP TO THE UTAH BORDER.

WAY UP TO THE UTAH BORDER.
SO TO BUY AN AD IN THAT RACE,

SO TO BUY AN AD IN THAT RACE,
YOU HAVE TO BUY IN THE PHOENIX

YOU HAVE TO BUY IN THE PHOENIX
MARKET AND YOU HAVE TO BUY IN

MARKET AND YOU HAVE TO BUY IN
THE FLAGSTAFF MARKET AND YOU

THE FLAGSTAFF MARKET AND YOU
HAVE TO BUY IN THE TUCSON

HAVE TO BUY IN THE TUCSON
MARKET.

MARKET.
YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT MARKETS

YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT MARKETS
YOU HAVE TO BUY IN.

YOU HAVE TO BUY IN.
PLUS, ALL OF YOUR MAILING AND

PLUS, ALL OF YOUR MAILING AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.

EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO IT'S JUST A MORE EXPENSIVE

SO IT'S JUST A MORE EXPENSIVE
MARKET TO GET INTO OR MORE

MARKET TO GET INTO OR MORE
EXPENSIVE RACE TO GET INTO.

EXPENSIVE RACE TO GET INTO.
>> MARY JO --

>> MARY JO --
>> AND I THINK THAT --

>> AND I THINK THAT --
>> GO AHEAD.

>> GO AHEAD.
I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.
>> I THINK THAT RACE IS ALSO

>> I THINK THAT RACE IS ALSO
HOTLY CONTESTED BECAUSE IT'S

HOTLY CONTESTED BECAUSE IT'S
FLIPPED BETWEEN REPUBLICAN AND

FLIPPED BETWEEN REPUBLICAN AND
DEMOCRAT IN RECENT YEARS AND

DEMOCRAT IN RECENT YEARS AND
KIRKPATRICK HAD IT IN 2010.

KIRKPATRICK HAD IT IN 2010.
SHE LOST THE SEAT IN 2012.

SHE LOST THE SEAT IN 2012.
NO, I GOT IT BACKWARDS.

NO, I GOT IT BACKWARDS.
ANYWAY, IF SHE CAN WIN THIS IN

ANYWAY, IF SHE CAN WIN THIS IN
TWO CYCLES CONSECUTIVELY, THAT

TWO CYCLES CONSECUTIVELY, THAT
MIGHT SORT OF CEMENT IT FOR A

MIGHT SORT OF CEMENT IT FOR A
WHILE TO COME.

WHILE TO COME.
SO THE REPUBLICANS REALLY WANT

SO THE REPUBLICANS REALLY WANT
TO GET THEIR PERSON IN THERE.

TO GET THEIR PERSON IN THERE.
>> AND, OF COURSE, YOU ALWAYS

>> AND, OF COURSE, YOU ALWAYS
RUN THE RISK IF YOUR CANDIDATE

RUN THE RISK IF YOUR CANDIDATE
LOSES ALL OF THAT MONEY WENT FOR

LOSES ALL OF THAT MONEY WENT FOR
WHAT EXACTLY?

WHAT EXACTLY?
>> VOTER FRUSTRATION.

>> VOTER FRUSTRATION.
>> ALL RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT.
TALK ABOUT THE VOTERS, WE'RE

TALK ABOUT THE VOTERS, WE'RE
SEEING EARLY BALLOTS IN.

SEEING EARLY BALLOTS IN.
SOME OF THESE NUMBERS STARTED TO

SOME OF THESE NUMBERS STARTED TO
COME IN ON PIMA COUNTY, MARICOPA

COME IN ON PIMA COUNTY, MARICOPA
COUNTY.

COUNTY.
IS THAT A GOOD INDICATION OR ARE

IS THAT A GOOD INDICATION OR ARE
THINGS MOVING SLOWLY,

THINGS MOVING SLOWLY,
CHRISTOPHER?

CHRISTOPHER?
>> IT'S A GOOD INDICATION.

>> IT'S A GOOD INDICATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD OR

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD OR
BAD.

BAD.
BUT IN PIMA COUNTY THEY ARE

BUT IN PIMA COUNTY THEY ARE
PREDICTING OVER 50%.

PREDICTING OVER 50%.
THEY WERE PREDICTING 50% BY

THEY WERE PREDICTING 50% BY
THURSDAY MORNING TO BE IN.

THURSDAY MORNING TO BE IN.
50% OF THE BALLOTS THAT HAVE

50% OF THE BALLOTS THAT HAVE
BEEN MAILED OUT.

BEEN MAILED OUT.
MARICOPA COUNTY, THEY ARE COMING

MARICOPA COUNTY, THEY ARE COMING
IN A LITTLE SLOWER.

IN A LITTLE SLOWER.
THE LAST NUMBER I SAW EARLIER

THE LAST NUMBER I SAW EARLIER
THIS WEEK WAS ABOUT A THIRD OF

THIS WEEK WAS ABOUT A THIRD OF
BALLOTS COMING IN.

BALLOTS COMING IN.
IN PIMA COUNTY, 62% OF

IN PIMA COUNTY, 62% OF
REGISTERED VOTERS REQUESTED AN

REGISTERED VOTERS REQUESTED AN
EARLY BALLOT.

EARLY BALLOT.
IF WE'RE OVER THE 50% MARK, THAT

IF WE'RE OVER THE 50% MARK, THAT
MEANS A VAST NUMBER OF VOTERS

MEANS A VAST NUMBER OF VOTERS
HAVE ALREADY VOTED IN THESE

HAVE ALREADY VOTED IN THESE
RACES.

RACES.
TUESDAY DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM.

TUESDAY DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM.
IT'S ABOUT THE COUNTING AT THAT

IT'S ABOUT THE COUNTING AT THAT
POINT.

POINT.
>> OKAY.

>> OKAY.
AND MARY JO, ARE YOU HEARING ANY

AND MARY JO, ARE YOU HEARING ANY
CONVERSATION HERE IN PHOENIX

CONVERSATION HERE IN PHOENIX
ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL HAVE

ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL HAVE
RESULTS FOR THESE BIG RACES ON

RESULTS FOR THESE BIG RACES ON
TUESDAY NIGHT OR WILL IT LAST

TUESDAY NIGHT OR WILL IT LAST
THROUGH THE WEEK?

THROUGH THE WEEK?
>> I KNOW MARICOPA COUNTY'S

>> I KNOW MARICOPA COUNTY'S
RECORDER OFFICE WAS SAYING IT

RECORDER OFFICE WAS SAYING IT
MAY TAKE A WEEK OR TWO TO COUNT

MAY TAKE A WEEK OR TWO TO COUNT
THEM AFTERWARDS.

THEM AFTERWARDS.
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN

THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN
EVERYTHING WILL HANG.

EVERYTHING WILL HANG.
I THINK SOME OF THE TOP TIER

I THINK SOME OF THE TOP TIER
RACES WILL PROBABLY BE DECIDED

RACES WILL PROBABLY BE DECIDED
FAIRLY QUICKLY.

FAIRLY QUICKLY.
MAYBE NOT IN TIME FOR OUR PRINT

MAYBE NOT IN TIME FOR OUR PRINT
DEADLINES BUT ESPECIALLY SOME OF

DEADLINES BUT ESPECIALLY SOME OF
THE LEGISLATIVE RACES AND

THE LEGISLATIVE RACES AND
PERHAPS CD 1, CD 2, MAYBE EVEN

PERHAPS CD 1, CD 2, MAYBE EVEN
SECRETARY OF STATE, THOSE THINGS

SECRETARY OF STATE, THOSE THINGS
COULD DRAG ON FOR A WHILE.

COULD DRAG ON FOR A WHILE.
>> MARY JO, LET'S MOVE ON FROM

>> MARY JO, LET'S MOVE ON FROM
THE ELECTION NEWS TO SCHOOL

THE ELECTION NEWS TO SCHOOL
FUNDING.

FUNDING.
$1 BILLION.

$1 BILLION.
THERE'S TALK THAT THE STATE

THERE'S TALK THAT THE STATE
CANNOT AFFORD IT AND OTHER FOLKS

CANNOT AFFORD IT AND OTHER FOLKS
WHO SAY WE HAVE A RAINY DAY

WHO SAY WE HAVE A RAINY DAY
FUND.

FUND.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?

WHAT DO YOU SAY?
>> WELL, WE'VE HAD A WEEKS'

>> WELL, WE'VE HAD A WEEKS'
WORTH OF TESTIMONY IN MARICOPA

WORTH OF TESTIMONY IN MARICOPA
COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT.

COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT.
WHAT IS SETTLED IS THAT THE

WHAT IS SETTLED IS THAT THE
STATE SHORTED THE K-12 SYSTEM TO

STATE SHORTED THE K-12 SYSTEM TO
THE TUNE OF $1.3 BILLION DURING

THE TUNE OF $1.3 BILLION DURING
THE GREAT RECESSION WHEN THEY

THE GREAT RECESSION WHEN THEY
DID NOT FUND THE SCHOOLS.

DID NOT FUND THE SCHOOLS.
THE SUPREME COURTS MADE IT

THE SUPREME COURTS MADE IT
CLEAR, YOU'VE GOT TO ADJUST THAT

CLEAR, YOU'VE GOT TO ADJUST THAT
SPENDING.

SPENDING.
YOU'VE GOT TO PAY THAT.

YOU'VE GOT TO PAY THAT.
SO THEY ARE IN COURT NOW TO TRY

SO THEY ARE IN COURT NOW TO TRY
TO -- THE LEGISLATURE IS -- TO

TO -- THE LEGISLATURE IS -- TO
TRY TO NEGOTIATE, WHEN DO WE

TRY TO NEGOTIATE, WHEN DO WE
HAVE TO SEND THAT BACK AND

HAVE TO SEND THAT BACK AND
REALLY FOR THE BACK PAYMENTS

REALLY FOR THE BACK PAYMENTS
THAT THE SCHOOLS SAY THEY ARE

THAT THE SCHOOLS SAY THEY ARE
OWED, YOU KNOW, THE STATE IS

OWED, YOU KNOW, THE STATE IS
ARGUING, WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO

ARGUING, WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO
PAY THAT.

PAY THAT.
WE'VE HAD SOME YEARS WHERE WE

WE'VE HAD SOME YEARS WHERE WE
OVERPAID THE SCHOOLS.

OVERPAID THE SCHOOLS.
THE STATE'S ARGUMENT GENERALLY

THE STATE'S ARGUMENT GENERALLY
IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH

IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
MONEY.

MONEY.
YES, THERE IS A RAINY DAY FUND

YES, THERE IS A RAINY DAY FUND
BUT THAT ONLY GOES PARTLY

BUT THAT ONLY GOES PARTLY
TOWARDS THE SOLUTION.

TOWARDS THE SOLUTION.
THEN YOU HAVE ONGOING ISSUES.

THEN YOU HAVE ONGOING ISSUES.
THE SCHOOLS HAVE PUT WITNESSES

THE SCHOOLS HAVE PUT WITNESSES
ON THE STAND OUTLINING DIFFERENT

ON THE STAND OUTLINING DIFFERENT
WAYS THAT THE STATES COULD GET

WAYS THAT THE STATES COULD GET
THE MONEY, SUCH AS BY ROLLING

THE MONEY, SUCH AS BY ROLLING
BACK TAX BREAKS THAT ARE

BACK TAX BREAKS THAT ARE
SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR,

SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR,
CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES, SOME

CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES, SOME
THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE GETTING

THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE GETTING
RID OF SOME OF THE SCHOOL

RID OF SOME OF THE SCHOOL
TUITION, ORGANIZATION, TAX

TUITION, ORGANIZATION, TAX
CREDITS.

CREDITS.
THEY PUT AN ARRAY OF CHOICES OUT

THEY PUT AN ARRAY OF CHOICES OUT
THERE TO MAKE THE POINT THAT

THERE TO MAKE THE POINT THAT
THERE IS A WAY TO DO THIS.

THERE IS A WAY TO DO THIS.
IT'S JUST NOT VERY PALATABLE TO

IT'S JUST NOT VERY PALATABLE TO
MANY MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE.

MANY MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
>> OKAY.

>> OKAY.
AND THEN CHRISTOPHER, HERE WE'RE

AND THEN CHRISTOPHER, HERE WE'RE
ALSO NEXT WEEK, THE GOVERNOR

ALSO NEXT WEEK, THE GOVERNOR
WILL BE IN TUCSON FOR TALKS OVER

WILL BE IN TUCSON FOR TALKS OVER
THE MEDICAID EXPANSION.

THE MEDICAID EXPANSION.
WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?

WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?
>> THE MEDICAID EXPANSION IS THE

>> THE MEDICAID EXPANSION IS THE
ISSUE WHERE THE GOVERNOR WAS

ISSUE WHERE THE GOVERNOR WAS
ABLE TO PULL DOWN SOME FEDERAL

ABLE TO PULL DOWN SOME FEDERAL
DOLLARS, MUCH TO THE DISMAY OF

DOLLARS, MUCH TO THE DISMAY OF
MANY MEMBERS OF HER OWN PARTY,

MANY MEMBERS OF HER OWN PARTY,
TO EXPAND MEDICAID TO MORE

TO EXPAND MEDICAID TO MORE
PEOPLE.

PEOPLE.
THE LEGISLATURE SAID BECAUSE OF

THE LEGISLATURE SAID BECAUSE OF
THE WAY THAT WAS FUNDED, THE

THE WAY THAT WAS FUNDED, THE
STATE'S MATCH ON IT, IT'S

STATE'S MATCH ON IT, IT'S
ILLEGAL.

ILLEGAL.
IT'S NOW GOING TO BE UP TO THE

IT'S NOW GOING TO BE UP TO THE
SUPREME COURT.

SUPREME COURT.
THAT HEARING TAKES PLACE TWO

THAT HEARING TAKES PLACE TWO
DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION SO THE

DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION SO THE
NEXT GOVERNOR, IF WE KNOW WHO

NEXT GOVERNOR, IF WE KNOW WHO
THAT IS AT THAT POINT, WILL HAVE

THAT IS AT THAT POINT, WILL HAVE
TO PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S

TO PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S
GOING TO FIGURE INTO THEIR

GOING TO FIGURE INTO THEIR
BUDGET.

BUDGET.
>> A LOT FOR THE NEXT GOVERNOR

>> A LOT FOR THE NEXT GOVERNOR
AND, OF COURSE, OTHER STATE

AND, OF COURSE, OTHER STATE
OFFICES TO HAVE TO BE INVOLVED

OFFICES TO HAVE TO BE INVOLVED
WITH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING

WITH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING
ON.

ON.
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WE SHOULD KNOW WHO OUR STATE

WE SHOULD KNOW WHO OUR STATE
GOVERNOR AND STATE LEADERS ARE.

GOVERNOR AND STATE LEADERS ARE.
WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THE RACES

WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THE RACES
CLOSELY AND WILL HAVE LIVE

CLOSELY AND WILL HAVE LIVE
COVERAGE ON ELECTION NIGHT.

COVERAGE ON ELECTION NIGHT.
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