.
>>> IT WILL BECOME PROGRESSIVELY

>>> IT WILL BECOME PROGRESSIVELY
DRIER AND HOTTER.

DRIER AND HOTTER.
>> HOW STATE AND FEDERAL

>> HOW STATE AND FEDERAL
AGENCIES READY FOR WHAT HAS

AGENCIES READY FOR WHAT HAS
BECOME THEI INEVITABLE.

BECOME THEI INEVITABLE.
>> IT'S REALLY IN OUR INTEREST

>> IT'S REALLY IN OUR INTEREST
TO LEARN TO ADAPT TO TO FIRE.

TO LEARN TO ADAPT TO TO FIRE.
>> THE DESERT CLIMATE CREATING A

>> THE DESERT CLIMATE CREATING A
VIRTUAL BOX.

VIRTUAL BOX.
THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."

THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
>>> ARIZONA'S DRY DESERT CLIMATE

>>> ARIZONA'S DRY DESERT CLIMATE
IS PRONE TO WILDFIRES, THE

IS PRONE TO WILDFIRES, THE
DEADLIEST SEASON YET LAST YEAR.

DEADLIEST SEASON YET LAST YEAR.
19 MEN FROM THE GRANITE MOUNTAIN

19 MEN FROM THE GRANITE MOUNTAIN
HOT SHOT CREW WERE KILLED.

HOT SHOT CREW WERE KILLED.
A PAINFUL REMINDER OF A

A PAINFUL REMINDER OF A
WILDFIRE'S DESTRUCTION.

WILDFIRE'S DESTRUCTION.
>> MICHELLE FROM THE NATIONAL

>> MICHELLE FROM THE NATIONAL
PARK SERVICE.

PARK SERVICE.
THANK YOU FORRING BEING HERE

THANK YOU FORRING BEING HERE
TODAY.

TODAY.
THERE'S A CAMPAIGN BEING

THERE'S A CAMPAIGN BEING
LAUNCHED THIS YEAR THAT HOPES TO

LAUNCHED THIS YEAR THAT HOPES TO
MAYBE IMPACT THE FIRE SEASON

MAYBE IMPACT THE FIRE SEASON
WE'VE SEEN.

WE'VE SEEN.
TALK ABOUT THAT.

TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LET

>> SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LET
PEOPLE KNOW IS ONE LESS SPARK

PEOPLE KNOW IS ONE LESS SPARK
MEANS ONE LESS WILDFIRE.

MEANS ONE LESS WILDFIRE.
THAT'S REALLY ABOUT EMPHASIZING

THAT'S REALLY ABOUT EMPHASIZING
THAT WILDFIRE PREVENTION IS

THAT WILDFIRE PREVENTION IS
EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY.

EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY.
SO WHETHER YOU'RE DRIVING A

SO WHETHER YOU'RE DRIVING A
VEHICLE DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S

VEHICLE DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S
LOTS OF ROADS THAT CAN CAUSE A

LOTS OF ROADS THAT CAN CAUSE A
FIRE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT THINK

FIRE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT THINK
OF.

OF.
DRAGS CHAINS ON THE HIGHWAY CAN

DRAGS CHAINS ON THE HIGHWAY CAN
CAUSE A SPARK.

CAUSE A SPARK.
IF DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU

IF DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU
HAVE A BLOWOUT.

HAVE A BLOWOUT.
RIMS DRAGGING ON THE PAVEMENT

RIMS DRAGGING ON THE PAVEMENT
CAN CAUSE A SPARK.

CAN CAUSE A SPARK.
PEOPLE LIKE TO PULL OVER AND

PEOPLE LIKE TO PULL OVER AND
PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
IF YOU PULL IN THE GAS, YOUR HOT

IF YOU PULL IN THE GAS, YOUR HOT
CONVERTER CAN IGNITE A WILDFIRE

CONVERTER CAN IGNITE A WILDFIRE
AS WELL.

AS WELL.
THOSE ARE CONSIDERATION OS TO

THOSE ARE CONSIDERATION OS TO
KEEP IN MIND WHEN USING

KEEP IN MIND WHEN USING
VEHICLES.

VEHICLES.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED
TO THINK SOMETHING AS SMALL AS A

TO THINK SOMETHING AS SMALL AS A
CIGARETTE BUTT CAN CAUSE A

CIGARETTE BUTT CAN CAUSE A
CATASTROPHE.

CATASTROPHE.
>> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT.
ANYTHING USING OUTDOORS,

ANYTHING USING OUTDOORS,
ANYTHING THAT CAN CAUSE A SPARK.

ANYTHING THAT CAN CAUSE A SPARK.
IF YOU MAKE I FIRE.

IF YOU MAKE I FIRE.
PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE COAL AND

PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE COAL AND
MAKE SURE IT'S COMPLETELY OUT

MAKE SURE IT'S COMPLETELY OUT
BEFORE YOU LEAVE IT.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE IT.
>> SOMEONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR

>> SOMEONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
STARTING A FIRE ON PUBLIC LAND.

STARTING A FIRE ON PUBLIC LAND.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
PERSON CAN EXPECT TO FIND IF

PERSON CAN EXPECT TO FIND IF
AUTHORITIES TRACE IT BACK TO

AUTHORITIES TRACE IT BACK TO
THEN?

THEN?
>> FOLKS CAN BE HELD

>> FOLKS CAN BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.

ACCOUNTABLE.
THERE CAN BE MONETARY FINES AS

THERE CAN BE MONETARY FINES AS
WELL AS NOBODY WANTS TO TO HAVE

WELL AS NOBODY WANTS TO TO HAVE
THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND HAVE

THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND HAVE
THEM ON THEM.

THEM ON THEM.
BE CAUTIOUS.

BE CAUTIOUS.
THINK AHEAD.

THINK AHEAD.
PRACTICE LEAVE NO TRACE

PRACTICE LEAVE NO TRACE
PRINCIPLES.

PRINCIPLES.
IF YOU ARE USING A CIGARETTE,

IF YOU ARE USING A CIGARETTE,
BACK OUT THAT BUTT SO YOU'RE NOT

BACK OUT THAT BUTT SO YOU'RE NOT
CONTRIBUTING TO LITTER AND

CONTRIBUTING TO LITTER AND
PREVENTING THE WILDFIRE FROM

PREVENTING THE WILDFIRE FROM
GETTING STARTED.

GETTING STARTED.
>> YOU BEEN ON THE FRONT LINES

>> YOU BEEN ON THE FRONT LINES
OF FIGHTING THE STARS.

OF FIGHTING THE STARS.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR
EXPERIENCE BEING OUT THERE AND

EXPERIENCE BEING OUT THERE AND
KNOWING THIS IS MORE THAN SEEING

KNOWING THIS IS MORE THAN SEEING
IMAGES ON THE NEWS OF A WILDFIRE

IMAGES ON THE NEWS OF A WILDFIRE
BURNING IN THE MOUNTAINS OR

BURNING IN THE MOUNTAINS OR
HOMES BEING DESTROYED.

HOMES BEING DESTROYED.
>> WILDFIRES KNOW NO BOUNDARIES.

>> WILDFIRES KNOW NO BOUNDARIES.
THAT'S THE ONE THING WE SEE.

THAT'S THE ONE THING WE SEE.
IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BURN

IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BURN
ANYWHERE IN ARIZONA.

ANYWHERE IN ARIZONA.
WE LIVE IN THE NATURAL AREA AS

WE LIVE IN THE NATURAL AREA AS
THAT BUMP UP AGAINST OUR HOMES

THAT BUMP UP AGAINST OUR HOMES
AND COMMUNITIES.

AND COMMUNITIES.
SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE PART OF

SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE PART OF
THAT SOLUTION AND UNDERSTANDING

THAT SOLUTION AND UNDERSTANDING
LIVING WITH FIRE IS SOMETHING WE

LIVING WITH FIRE IS SOMETHING WE
DEAL WITH HERE.

DEAL WITH HERE.
WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR IT,

WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR IT,
CREATE FIRE ADAPTED COMMUNITIES

CREATE FIRE ADAPTED COMMUNITIES
SO WE'RE PREPARED WHEN FIRES

SO WE'RE PREPARED WHEN FIRES
BURN THROUGH AREAS.

BURN THROUGH AREAS.
WAYS TO DO THAT.

WAYS TO DO THAT.
INCORPORATE FIRE PRINCIPLES

INCORPORATE FIRE PRINCIPLES
AROUND YOUR HOUSE.

AROUND YOUR HOUSE.
CLEANING TREES, PINE NEEDLES ON

CLEANING TREES, PINE NEEDLES ON
YOUR ROOF AND DECK.

YOUR ROOF AND DECK.
KEEP IT LEAN AND GREEN.

KEEP IT LEAN AND GREEN.
PROJECTS OUT NOW WHILE IT'S NICE

PROJECTS OUT NOW WHILE IT'S NICE
OUT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO

OUT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO
PROTECT YOUR HOME, COMMUNITY AND

PROTECT YOUR HOME, COMMUNITY AND
FIREFIGHTERS WHEN A WILDFIRE MAY

FIREFIGHTERS WHEN A WILDFIRE MAY
BE APPROACHING.

BE APPROACHING.
>> IN ARIZONA WE SAW A

>> IN ARIZONA WE SAW A
DEVASTATING SEASON LAST YEAR

DEVASTATING SEASON LAST YEAR
WITH THE DEATHS OF 19 MEN IN THE

WITH THE DEATHS OF 19 MEN IN THE
HOT SHOT CREW.

HOT SHOT CREW.
ARE THERE OTHER THINGS YOU WANT

ARE THERE OTHER THINGS YOU WANT
PEOPLE TO KNOW FROM WHAT

PEOPLE TO KNOW FROM WHAT
HAPPENED?

HAPPENED?
>> THE KEY THING IS FIREFIGHTER

>> THE KEY THING IS FIREFIGHTER
AND PUBLIC SAFETY ARE OUR NUMBER

AND PUBLIC SAFETY ARE OUR NUMBER
ONE PRIORITY.

ONE PRIORITY.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE ACTION

IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE ACTION
NOW AND DO THOSE THINGS, CREATE

NOW AND DO THOSE THINGS, CREATE
THE FENCEABLE SPACE.

THE FENCEABLE SPACE.
WORK WITH NEIGHBORS AND

WORK WITH NEIGHBORS AND
COMMUNITY TO CREATE THE FIRE

COMMUNITY TO CREATE THE FIRE
WISE COMMUNITY AND FIRE ADAPTED

WISE COMMUNITY AND FIRE ADAPTED
COMMUNITY SO WE'RE ALL BETTER

COMMUNITY SO WE'RE ALL BETTER
PREPARED GOING INTO THE SEASON.

PREPARED GOING INTO THE SEASON.
>> THESE ARE THE MOUNTAINS NEAR

>> THESE ARE THE MOUNTAINS NEAR
THE CITY OFFER RA VISTA.

THE CITY OFFER RA VISTA.
THE MONUMENT FIRE BURNED OVER

THE MONUMENT FIRE BURNED OVER
29,000 ACRES DESTROYING DOZEN BS

29,000 ACRES DESTROYING DOZEN BS
OF HOMES AND BUSINESSES.

OF HOMES AND BUSINESSES.
THE FIRE DAMAGED THE LADY

THE FIRE DAMAGED THE LADY
SHRINE.

SHRINE.
IT DID NOT SINGE THE SPIRIT OF

IT DID NOT SINGE THE SPIRIT OF
THIS CHURCH.

THIS CHURCH.
>> A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF

>> A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF
DEREK STORES AT LADY SHRINE,

DEREK STORES AT LADY SHRINE,
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.

I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.
>> LET'S TALK -- GO BACK TO 1998

>> LET'S TALK -- GO BACK TO 1998
WHEN THIS CHAPEL OPENED TO THE

WHEN THIS CHAPEL OPENED TO THE
PUBL

PUBL
PUBLI

PUBLI
PUBLIC.

PUBLIC.
WHAT'S THE STORY BEHIND THIS

WHAT'S THE STORY BEHIND THIS
BEAUTIFUL PLACE?

BEAUTIFUL PLACE?
>> THE STORY IS INTERESTING.

>> THE STORY IS INTERESTING.
IN 1987 -- I'LL CALL THEM

IN 1987 -- I'LL CALL THEM
FOUNDERS NOW -- HUSBAND AND WIFE

FOUNDERS NOW -- HUSBAND AND WIFE
A CAME TO VISIT RELATIVES.

A CAME TO VISIT RELATIVES.
THEY WERE WALKING AND STUMBLED

THEY WERE WALKING AND STUMBLED
ACROSS FOR SALE SIGNS.

ACROSS FOR SALE SIGNS.
THEY NOETICED THE GORGEOUS

THEY NOETICED THE GORGEOUS
SCENERY.

SCENERY.
THAT WAS 1987.

THAT WAS 1987.
1988 THEY ACTUALLY CAME BACK AND

1988 THEY ACTUALLY CAME BACK AND
BOUGHT A PARCEL OF EIGHT ACHE

BOUGHT A PARCEL OF EIGHT ACHE
AREAS TO BUILD THEIR FUTURE

AREAS TO BUILD THEIR FUTURE
RETIERMT HOME.

RETIERMT HOME.
IN 1990 THEY HAD A CALLING TO GO

IN 1990 THEY HAD A CALLING TO GO
ON A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE.

ON A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE.
THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY

THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY
EXPERIENCE AN A PIFNY THERE.

EXPERIENCE AN A PIFNY THERE.
THEY WERE STANDING BY THIS STONE

THEY WERE STANDING BY THIS STONE
CROSS.

CROSS.
THEN THEY CAME BACK AND STARTED

THEN THEY CAME BACK AND STARTED
BUILDING THE HOME IN 1990.

BUILDING THE HOME IN 1990.
IT WAS COMPLETED IN 1991.

IT WAS COMPLETED IN 1991.
AT THE TAIL END OF THAT BUILDING

AT THE TAIL END OF THAT BUILDING
PROCESS, THE HUSBAND THOUGHT IT

PROCESS, THE HUSBAND THOUGHT IT
WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE A

WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE A
CROSS UP HERE, A 20 FOOT CROSS,

CROSS UP HERE, A 20 FOOT CROSS,
FACING THE VALLEY.

FACING THE VALLEY.
SO THAT WAS THE BEGINNING

SO THAT WAS THE BEGINNING
PROCESS OF THIS JOURNEY.

PROCESS OF THIS JOURNEY.
HIS WIFE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE

HIS WIFE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
IMPORTANT IN HER MIND TO HAVE A

IMPORTANT IN HER MIND TO HAVE A
STATUE OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN

STATUE OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN
MARY WITH HER RIGHT HAND TOWARD

MARY WITH HER RIGHT HAND TOWARD
THE CROSS AND TOWARDS MEXICO.

THE CROSS AND TOWARDS MEXICO.
IN 1993 THEN THEY STARTED THE

IN 1993 THEN THEY STARTED THE
PROCESS OF BUILDING THESE TWO

PROCESS OF BUILDING THESE TWO
STATUES.

STATUES.
IN THE MEANTIME THEY HAD OF

IN THE MEANTIME THEY HAD OF
COURSE RUN ACROSS THE COMPANY IN

COURSE RUN ACROSS THE COMPANY IN
TUCSON CAPABLE OF BUILDING

TUCSON CAPABLE OF BUILDING
STRUCTURES OF THIS SIZE OUT OF

STRUCTURES OF THIS SIZE OUT OF
STUCCO AND FIBERGLASS AND STEEL.

STUCCO AND FIBERGLASS AND STEEL.
SO IN 1993 AS I SAID, THEY

SO IN 1993 AS I SAID, THEY
STARTED BUILDING THOSE TWO

STARTED BUILDING THOSE TWO
ITEMS.

ITEMS.
THEN FROM THEN UNTIL 1997 THERE

THEN FROM THEN UNTIL 1997 THERE
WAS A TERRIBLE TIME FOR THEM

WAS A TERRIBLE TIME FOR THEM
TRYING TO GET THROUGH LEGAL

TRYING TO GET THROUGH LEGAL
PROCESSES AND PERMITS FROM THE

PROCESSES AND PERMITS FROM THE
COUNTY TO BUILD THESE FACILITIES

COUNTY TO BUILD THESE FACILITIES
HERE.

HERE.
IN 1997 THEY GOT IT STARTED AND

IN 1997 THEY GOT IT STARTED AND
IT WAS COMPLETED IN 1998 A YEAR

IT WAS COMPLETED IN 1998 A YEAR
LATER.

LATER.
>> THERE WERE SOME CONCERN BEING

>> THERE WERE SOME CONCERN BEING
IN THE MOUNTAIN RANGE OF

IN THE MOUNTAIN RANGE OF
WILDFIRES.

WILDFIRES.
IN '97 THERE WAS A WILDFIRE THAT

IN '97 THERE WAS A WILDFIRE THAT
SPARED THIS SHRINE.

SPARED THIS SHRINE.
>> TRUE STATEMENT.

>> TRUE STATEMENT.
>> TALK ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF

>> TALK ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF
WATCHING FLAMES NEARBY AND NOT

WATCHING FLAMES NEARBY AND NOT
KNOWING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

KNOWING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.
IT WAS A CONCERN.

IT WAS A CONCERN.
I WAS IN THE CAR AT THE FIRE

I WAS IN THE CAR AT THE FIRE
STATION WATCHING THAT COME OVER

STATION WATCHING THAT COME OVER
THE MOUNTAIN DOWN INTO THE

THE MOUNTAIN DOWN INTO THE
VALLEY.

VALLEY.
I PERSONALLY THOUGHT MAYBE THE

I PERSONALLY THOUGHT MAYBE THE
CHAPEL WOULD NOT SURVIVE.

CHAPEL WOULD NOT SURVIVE.
MIRACULOUSLY IT DID.

MIRACULOUSLY IT DID.
IT WENT AROUND AND SPARED IT

IT WENT AROUND AND SPARED IT
ENTIRELY.

ENTIRELY.
SO WE KIND OF THOUGHT THIS WAS A

SO WE KIND OF THOUGHT THIS WAS A
SIGN IF YOU WILL.

SIGN IF YOU WILL.
>> THEN COMES 2011.

>> THEN COMES 2011.
>> THEN COMES 2011, THE BIG

>> THEN COMES 2011, THE BIG
FIRE, MONUMENT FIRE WHICH WAS

FIRE, MONUMENT FIRE WHICH WAS
MUCH BIGGER, MUCH HOTTER.

MUCH BIGGER, MUCH HOTTER.
THE MONUMENT FIRE CAME OVER THE

THE MONUMENT FIRE CAME OVER THE
HILL AS WELL THEN SORT OF

HILL AS WELL THEN SORT OF
STOPPED AND BACKED OFF.

STOPPED AND BACKED OFF.
WE THOUGHT ONCE AGAIN THIS AREA

WE THOUGHT ONCE AGAIN THIS AREA
WOULD BE SPARED.

WOULD BE SPARED.
WINDS CHANGED.

WINDS CHANGED.
IT CAME ROARING THROUGH AND TOOK

IT CAME ROARING THROUGH AND TOOK
EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE CHAPEL

EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE CHAPEL
AND EVERYTHING IN IT.

AND EVERYTHING IN IT.
>> YOU YOURSELF WERE EVACUATED

>> YOU YOURSELF WERE EVACUATED
FROM YOUR HOME.

FROM YOUR HOME.
FOUNDERS WERE WATCHING TO SEE

FOUNDERS WERE WATCHING TO SEE
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
WHAT WAS RUNNING THROUGH YOUR

WHAT WAS RUNNING THROUGH YOUR
MIND?

MIND?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW -- IT WAS WHY.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW -- IT WAS WHY.
THERE'S ALWAYS A QUESTION OF WHY

THERE'S ALWAYS A QUESTION OF WHY
DOES IT HAPPEN HERE AND NOT

DOES IT HAPPEN HERE AND NOT
THERE?

THERE?
THIS FIRE WAS ONE OF THOSE.

THIS FIRE WAS ONE OF THOSE.
IT TOOK SOME AREAS, TOOK SOME

IT TOOK SOME AREAS, TOOK SOME
HOMES, SOME FACILITIES AND

HOMES, SOME FACILITIES AND
SPARED OTHER ONES.

SPARED OTHER ONES.
I PERSONALLY WONDERED WHY, WHAT

I PERSONALLY WONDERED WHY, WHAT
WAS BEHIND THIS.

WAS BEHIND THIS.
THERE'S NO ANSWER OF COURSE TO

THERE'S NO ANSWER OF COURSE TO
THAT.

THAT.
>> THE STATIONS OF THE CROSS,

>> THE STATIONS OF THE CROSS,
WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE?
>> THE STATIONS AND CROSS WERE

>> THE STATIONS AND CROSS WERE
BURNED DOWN BESIDES ONE.

BURNED DOWN BESIDES ONE.
WHEN YOU LOOK, THEY'VE ALL BEEN

WHEN YOU LOOK, THEY'VE ALL BEEN
REPLACED AGAIN.

REPLACED AGAIN.
THE ONE THAT WAS REMAINING WAS

THE ONE THAT WAS REMAINING WAS
USED TO MAKE SMALL CROSSES YOU

USED TO MAKE SMALL CROSSES YOU
COULD PUT AROUND YOUR NECK.

COULD PUT AROUND YOUR NECK.
THOSE HAVE BEEN A BIG HIT WITH

THOSE HAVE BEEN A BIG HIT WITH
PEOPLE.

PEOPLE.
>> THE DECISION WAS MADE TO

>> THE DECISION WAS MADE TO
REBUILD THIS CHAPEL.

REBUILD THIS CHAPEL.
>> YES.

>> YES.
>> WHY?

>> WHY?
>> IT WAS NEVER A DOUBT.

>> IT WAS NEVER A DOUBT.
THIS WAS A CALLING.

THIS WAS A CALLING.
WE THINK GOD WANTED US TO REBID.

WE THINK GOD WANTED US TO REBID.
THERE WAS NO QUESTION IN OUR

THERE WAS NO QUESTION IN OUR
MINDS.

MINDS.
ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WE BEGAN

ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WE BEGAN
REBUILDING THE CHAPEL AGAIN.

REBUILDING THE CHAPEL AGAIN.
IT GOES WITH THE SCENE.

IT GOES WITH THE SCENE.
WHEN YOU REBUILD THE FACILITY

WHEN YOU REBUILD THE FACILITY
HERE, THAT'S A SIGN OF HOPE.

HERE, THAT'S A SIGN OF HOPE.
WHEN YOU SEE THE TREES THAT HAD

WHEN YOU SEE THE TREES THAT HAD
BURNED DOWN TO THE GROUND AND WE

BURNED DOWN TO THE GROUND AND WE
CUT THEM DOWN.

CUT THEM DOWN.
THERE'S NEW GROWTH COMING UP OUT

THERE'S NEW GROWTH COMING UP OUT
OF THE BOTTOM, THAT'S THE SAME

OF THE BOTTOM, THAT'S THE SAME
SIGN.

SIGN.
A SIGN IN OUR OPINION OF GOD AT

A SIGN IN OUR OPINION OF GOD AT
WORK.

WORK.
IT'S HOPE.

IT'S HOPE.
IT'S THE FUTURE.

IT'S THE FUTURE.
SOME OF US WON'T BE AROUND TO BE

SOME OF US WON'T BE AROUND TO BE
ABLE TO ENJOY THOSE OAK TREES

ABLE TO ENJOY THOSE OAK TREES
WHEN THEY'RE GROWN BACK.

WHEN THEY'RE GROWN BACK.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SMALL

WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SMALL
CHILDREN, YOUNGSTERS VISIT THE

CHILDREN, YOUNGSTERS VISIT THE
AREA AND BE INSPIRED BY IT.

AREA AND BE INSPIRED BY IT.
>> SHOULD THIS HAPPEN AGAIN,

>> SHOULD THIS HAPPEN AGAIN,
WILL THERE BE ANOTHER T

WILL THERE BE ANOTHER T
DISCUSSION OF WHAT THE FUTURE

DISCUSSION OF WHAT THE FUTURE
WILL LOOK LIKE HERE?

WILL LOOK LIKE HERE?
>> THERE PROBABLY WILL BE.

>> THERE PROBABLY WILL BE.
I DOUBT THERE'S A QUESTION OF

I DOUBT THERE'S A QUESTION OF
WHETHER WE REBUILD OR NOT.

WHETHER WE REBUILD OR NOT.
WE THINK IT'S A CALLING.

WE THINK IT'S A CALLING.
IT'S A REQUIREMENT WE HAVE THIS

IT'S A REQUIREMENT WE HAVE THIS
CHAP A EL HERE.

CHAP A EL HERE.
WE SEE IT AS A HOPE.

WE SEE IT AS A HOPE.
WHEN THE CHAPEL IS FINISHED AND

WHEN THE CHAPEL IS FINISHED AND
WE WERE ABLE TO LIGHT UP THE

WE WERE ABLE TO LIGHT UP THE
CROSS AND MADONNA AGAIN AT

CROSS AND MADONNA AGAIN AT
NIGHTTIME, IT WAS LIKE A HUGE

NIGHTTIME, IT WAS LIKE A HUGE
BEACON OF HOPE CAME ON AGAIN.

BEACON OF HOPE CAME ON AGAIN.
YES, WE'D PROBABLY DO IT AGAIN.

YES, WE'D PROBABLY DO IT AGAIN.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE MOUNTAIN

>> WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE MOUNTAIN
RANGE, YOU SEE THE MADONNA NEXT

RANGE, YOU SEE THE MADONNA NEXT
TO THE CROSS AND CAN'T HELP BUT

TO THE CROSS AND CAN'T HELP BUT
BE TAKEN REGARDLESS OF YOUR

BE TAKEN REGARDLESS OF YOUR
FAITH.

FAITH.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU AND

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU AND
THE BOARD IS THIS.

THE BOARD IS THIS.
>> IT MEANS IT'S A PLACE PEOPLE

>> IT MEANS IT'S A PLACE PEOPLE
CAN COME AND PRAY AND BE IN A

CAN COME AND PRAY AND BE IN A
QUIET AREA AND HAVE HOPE ABOUT

QUIET AREA AND HAVE HOPE ABOUT
THE FUTURE.

THE FUTURE.
IT'S JUST A PLACE WE LIKE TO

IT'S JUST A PLACE WE LIKE TO
HAVE PEOPLE COME AND VISIT AND

HAVE PEOPLE COME AND VISIT AND
FEEL COMFORTABLE LIKE YOU SAID

FEEL COMFORTABLE LIKE YOU SAID
REGARDLESS OF FAITH.

REGARDLESS OF FAITH.
PLEASE COME SEE IT.

PLEASE COME SEE IT.
IT'S INSPIRATION.

IT'S INSPIRATION.
IT'S GOT A GORGEOUS VIEW OF THE

IT'S GOT A GORGEOUS VIEW OF THE
VALLEY.

VALLEY.
BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE MOUNTAIN

BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE MOUNTAIN
AS TO THE NORTH, SNOW CAPPED IN

AS TO THE NORTH, SNOW CAPPED IN
THE WINTER SOMETIMES.

THE WINTER SOMETIMES.
IT'S SOMETHING WE HOPE PEOPLE

IT'S SOMETHING WE HOPE PEOPLE
WILL COME ENJOY AND HAVE AN

WILL COME ENJOY AND HAVE AN
EXPERIENCE.

EXPERIENCE.
>> ARIZONA IS HOME TO SIX

>> ARIZONA IS HOME TO SIX
NATIONAL FORESTS.

NATIONAL FORESTS.
THE CORNADO AMONG THE THEM.

THE CORNADO AMONG THE THEM.
IN RESENT WE'RE, DEVASTATING

IN RESENT WE'RE, DEVASTATING
WILDFIRES HAVE DESTROYED

WILDFIRES HAVE DESTROYED
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES,

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES,
LESSONS LEARNED.

LESSONS LEARNED.
CAN THE FOREST SERVICE EVER

CAN THE FOREST SERVICE EVER
PREPARE FOR A FIRE STORM?

PREPARE FOR A FIRE STORM?
HEIDI FROM THE CORNADO NATIONAL

HEIDI FROM THE CORNADO NATIONAL
FOREST, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

FOREST, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS YEAR'S

LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS YEAR'S
FIRE SEASON AND WHAT IT LOOKED

FIRE SEASON AND WHAT IT LOOKED
LIKE.

LIKE.
I SHOULD BE CLEAR IT'S NOT A

I SHOULD BE CLEAR IT'S NOT A
FIRE SEASON BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS

FIRE SEASON BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS
IN FIRE SEASON.

IN FIRE SEASON.
>> WE'RE ALWAYS IN FIRE SEASON

>> WE'RE ALWAYS IN FIRE SEASON
12 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR IN THE

12 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR IN THE
FOREST.

FOREST.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPRING AND

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPRING AND
SUMMER, ABOVE NORMAL POTENTIAL

SUMMER, ABOVE NORMAL POTENTIAL
FOR WILDFIRES DUE TO SEVERAL

FOR WILDFIRES DUE TO SEVERAL
FACTORS THAT CAN WORK INTO THIS.

FACTORS THAT CAN WORK INTO THIS.
ONE IS IS ONGOING DROUGHT.

ONE IS IS ONGOING DROUGHT.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANY

THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANY
TIME SOON.

TIME SOON.
TWO DRY WINTERS IN A ROW BACK TO

TWO DRY WINTERS IN A ROW BACK TO
BACK.

BACK.
FIELDS ARE MORE DRY.

FIELDS ARE MORE DRY.
SOME PARTS OF THE STATE RECEIVED

SOME PARTS OF THE STATE RECEIVED
PRECIPITATION FROM THE MONSOON

PRECIPITATION FROM THE MONSOON
THIS SUMMER.

THIS SUMMER.
OVER IN LOWER ELEVATIONS THERE

OVER IN LOWER ELEVATIONS THERE
ARE A LOT OF GRASSY BRUSHY

ARE A LOT OF GRASSY BRUSHY
FIELDS THAT GREW.

FIELDS THAT GREW.
THEY'VE BECOME FLAMMABLE AT THIS

THEY'VE BECOME FLAMMABLE AT THIS
POINT ALREADY.

POINT ALREADY.
NOW WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR

NOW WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR
WEATHER IS KIND OF PULSES OF

WEATHER IS KIND OF PULSES OF
WHAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY.
HOT, DRY, WINDY.

HOT, DRY, WINDY.
LITTLE SYSTEMS WILL TRY TO COME

LITTLE SYSTEMS WILL TRY TO COME
THROUGH AND BRING COOLER

THROUGH AND BRING COOLER
TEMPERATURES, HIGHER R

TEMPERATURES, HIGHER R
PRECIPITATIONS, MAYBE NOT.

PRECIPITATIONS, MAYBE NOT.
THOSE WILL BRING SHORT TERM

THOSE WILL BRING SHORT TERM
RELIEF FROM HEATING AND DRYING

RELIEF FROM HEATING AND DRYING
AND BACK TO THE HOT AND DRY.

AND BACK TO THE HOT AND DRY.
WIND COMPLICATES THINGS.

WIND COMPLICATES THINGS.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL
FOR WILDFIRES HERE THIS SUMMER.

FOR WILDFIRES HERE THIS SUMMER.
WE HAVE THE FUELS, WEATHER

WE HAVE THE FUELS, WEATHER
CONDITIONS.

CONDITIONS.
IT WILL BECOME PROGRESSIVELY

IT WILL BECOME PROGRESSIVELY
HOTTER AND DRIER.

HOTTER AND DRIER.
WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS SHAPE UP.

WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS SHAPE UP.
>> WHAT ARE THE FORESTERS DOING

>> WHAT ARE THE FORESTERS DOING
DIFFERENTLY TO PREPARE FOR THIS

DIFFERENTLY TO PREPARE FOR THIS
SEASON?

SEASON?
>> WELL, LIKE EVERY YEAR, WE

>> WELL, LIKE EVERY YEAR, WE
HAVE FIREFIGHTERS ON OUR

HAVE FIREFIGHTERS ON OUR
PERMANENT POSITIONS ALL FILLED.

PERMANENT POSITIONS ALL FILLED.
WE HAVE ENGINE STAFF, TEN

WE HAVE ENGINE STAFF, TEN
ENGINES ACROSS THE STAFF.

ENGINES ACROSS THE STAFF.
THE FIRST IS COMING IN TODAY.

THE FIRST IS COMING IN TODAY.
WE HAVE THE LIBBY AIR TANKER

WE HAVE THE LIBBY AIR TANKER
BASE WHICH WILL BE READY TO OPEN

BASE WHICH WILL BE READY TO OPEN
DOORS AT NOI THYME TO SERVICE

DOORS AT NOI THYME TO SERVICE
AIR TANKERS DROPPING ON FIRES.

AIR TANKERS DROPPING ON FIRES.
AND SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH WHERE

AND SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH WHERE
WE NEED TO BE.

WE NEED TO BE.
WE HAVE ALSO A TYPE TWO INITIAL

WE HAVE ALSO A TYPE TWO INITIAL
ATTACK HAND CREW WHICH IS 20

ATTACK HAND CREW WHICH IS 20
PEOPLE.

PEOPLE.
THEY'RE ALL TRAINED UP AND

THEY'RE ALL TRAINED UP AND
QUALIFIED AND READY TO GO.

QUALIFIED AND READY TO GO.
WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON COURSE.

WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON COURSE.
WE'RE RESPONDING TO AN INCIDENT

WE'RE RESPONDING TO AN INCIDENT
RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE READY TO RESPOND TO

WE ARE READY TO RESPOND TO
INCIDENTS.

INCIDENTS.
WHEN WE GO TO SUPPRESS FIRE, WE

WHEN WE GO TO SUPPRESS FIRE, WE
USE CLOSES FORCES AND ENGAGE

USE CLOSES FORCES AND ENGAGE
LOCAL AND VOLUNTEER FIRE

LOCAL AND VOLUNTEER FIRE
DEPARTMENTS.

DEPARTMENTS.
WE DO INITIAL ATTACK.

WE DO INITIAL ATTACK.
TRY TO PUT THE FIRE OUT NOW.

TRY TO PUT THE FIRE OUT NOW.
IF WE NEED MORE RESOURCES SUCH

IF WE NEED MORE RESOURCES SUCH
AS MORE AIRCRAFT OR FIREFIGHTERS

AS MORE AIRCRAFT OR FIREFIGHTERS
OR BULLDOZERS OR WHO KNOWS WHAT,

OR BULLDOZERS OR WHO KNOWS WHAT,
WE CAN ORDER THOSE AND THEY'LL

WE CAN ORDER THOSE AND THEY'LL
BE DISPATCHED THROUGH THE

BE DISPATCHED THROUGH THE
AUCHLTS WE HAVE DIFFERE

AUCHLTS WE HAVE DIFFERE
OFFICE.

OFFICE.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT RESOURCES

WE HAVE DIFFERENT RESOURCES
AVAILABLE TO US.

AVAILABLE TO US.
>> SEEMS LIKE THE FOREST SERVICE

>> SEEMS LIKE THE FOREST SERVICE
IS MUCH MORE PREPARED THAN EVER.

IS MUCH MORE PREPARED THAN EVER.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?
>> WE ALWAYS TRY TO BE PREPARED.

>> WE ALWAYS TRY TO BE PREPARED.
PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE ON THE

PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE ON THE
CORNADO WE ARE FIVE RANGER

CORNADO WE ARE FIVE RANGER
DISTRICTS IN PROMXIMITIES TO

DISTRICTS IN PROMXIMITIES TO
CITIES.

CITIES.
WE HAVE THE RESOURCES IN PLACE

WE HAVE THE RESOURCES IN PLACE
THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT

THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT
THOSE.

THOSE.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL BE A

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL BE A
CHALLENGING SUMMER AHEAD.

CHALLENGING SUMMER AHEAD.
LOOKING FORWARD, IS THERE

LOOKING FORWARD, IS THERE
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PUT OUT TO

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PUT OUT TO
THE PUBLIC, REMINDER ABOUT BEING

THE PUBLIC, REMINDER ABOUT BEING
SMART?

SMART?
>> I WOULD REMIND PEOPLE TO TAKE

>> I WOULD REMIND PEOPLE TO TAKE
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
IF A LIGHTNING FIRE STARTS

IF A LIGHTNING FIRE STARTS
THAT'S ONE THING.

THAT'S ONE THING.
MOST FIRES ARE HUMAN CAUSED.

MOST FIRES ARE HUMAN CAUSED.
THEY NEED AN IGNITION SOURCE.

THEY NEED AN IGNITION SOURCE.
THE FIELD IS THERE, DRY

THE FIELD IS THERE, DRY
CONDITIONS THERE, HEAT IS THERE.

CONDITIONS THERE, HEAT IS THERE.
EVERYTHING IS LINED UP.

EVERYTHING IS LINED UP.
ALL IT NEEDS IS SOMETHING TO

ALL IT NEEDS IS SOMETHING TO
START THAT FIRE.

START THAT FIRE.
WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT

WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT
WHAT YOU'RE DOING, TRY TO MAKE

WHAT YOU'RE DOING, TRY TO MAKE
SURE YOU'RE NOT THE ONE THAT

SURE YOU'RE NOT THE ONE THAT
STARTS THE FIRE.

STARTS THE FIRE.
NEVER, NEVER LEAVE A CAMPFIRE

NEVER, NEVER LEAVE A CAMPFIRE
UNATTENDED FOR ANY AMOUNT OF

UNATTENDED FOR ANY AMOUNT OF
TIME FOR ANY REASON.

TIME FOR ANY REASON.
BE CAREFUL IN DAY-TO-DAY

BE CAREFUL IN DAY-TO-DAY
ACTIVITIES.

ACTIVITIES.
MOWING YOUR LAWN, LAWN MOWER

MOWING YOUR LAWN, LAWN MOWER
BLADE CAN STRIKE A ROCK AND

BLADE CAN STRIKE A ROCK AND
START A FIRE.

START A FIRE.
RECREATIONAL SHOOTING, BULLETS

RECREATIONAL SHOOTING, BULLETS
RICOCHET.

RICOCHET.
THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS

THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS
THAT START FIRES.

THAT START FIRES.
WE ARE REALLY HOPING PEOPLE WILL

WE ARE REALLY HOPING PEOPLE WILL
BE THINKING WHEN THEY'RE DOING

BE THINKING WHEN THEY'RE DOING
ACTIVITIES WHEN IN THE HOTTER

ACTIVITIES WHEN IN THE HOTTER
TIME OF THE YEAR.

TIME OF THE YEAR.
>> THIS IS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT

>> THIS IS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT
WILDFIRES.

WILDFIRES.
THIS IS ABOUT PERSONAL SAFETY

THIS IS ABOUT PERSONAL SAFETY
FOR MEN AND WOMEN THAT WORK ON

FOR MEN AND WOMEN THAT WORK ON
THESE FIRES.

THESE FIRES.
>> FIREFIGHTER AND PUBLIC SAFETY

>> FIREFIGHTER AND PUBLIC SAFETY
IS ALWAYS THE FIRST OBJECTIVE ON

IS ALWAYS THE FIRST OBJECTIVE ON
ANY FIRE.

ANY FIRE.
THOSE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT

THOSE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT
ONES.

ONES.
WE COULD REMIND PEOPLE FIREWORKS

WE COULD REMIND PEOPLE FIREWORKS
ARE ALWAYS PROHIBITED ON ALL

ARE ALWAYS PROHIBITED ON ALL
PUBLIC LAND.

PUBLIC LAND.
I THINK THE REALLY IMPORTANT

I THINK THE REALLY IMPORTANT
THING THOUGH THAT I WOULD HOPE

THING THOUGH THAT I WOULD HOPE
EVERYBODY WOULD REMEMBER IS THAT

EVERYBODY WOULD REMEMBER IS THAT
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE USE OUR PUBLIC

A LOT OF PEOPLE USE OUR PUBLIC
LANDS BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEM,

LANDS BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEM,
CARE ABOUT THEM, GET ALL KINDS

CARE ABOUT THEM, GET ALL KINDS
OF DIFFERENT BENEFITS FROM BEING

OF DIFFERENT BENEFITS FROM BEING
OUT THERE.

OUT THERE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD WANT

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD WANT
TO BE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE

TO BE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE
DENYING THAT EXPERIENCE TO A LOT

DENYING THAT EXPERIENCE TO A LOT
OF PEOPLE.

OF PEOPLE.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO
KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BE

KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BE
REALLY CAREFUL OUT THERE AND

REALLY CAREFUL OUT THERE AND
HELP KEEP LANDS ENJOYABLE FOR

HELP KEEP LANDS ENJOYABLE FOR
ALL OF US.

ALL OF US.
>> WILDFIRES HAVE RAVAGED

>> WILDFIRES HAVE RAVAGED
HUNDREDS OF SQUARE MILES

HUNDREDS OF SQUARE MILES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF ARIZONA.
IN SOME AREAS YOU CAN SEE

IN SOME AREAS YOU CAN SEE
REMNANTS OF A FIRE N. OTHERS,

REMNANTS OF A FIRE N. OTHERS,
REGROWTH.

REGROWTH.
AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO LEARN, THE

AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO LEARN, THE
VEGETATION, LANDSCAPE CAN IN

VEGETATION, LANDSCAPE CAN IN
FACT SURVIVE AND THEN FLOURISH.

FACT SURVIVE AND THEN FLOURISH.
>> DAWN FOLK FROM THE SCHOOL OF

>> DAWN FOLK FROM THE SCHOOL OF
NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE

NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE
ENVIRONMENT HERE AT UNIVERSITY

ENVIRONMENT HERE AT UNIVERSITY
OF ARIZONA, THANK YOU FOR BEING

OF ARIZONA, THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.

HERE.
>> MY PLEASURE.

>> MY PLEASURE.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS
AFTER THE FIREFIGHTER.

AFTER THE FIREFIGHTER.
>> TV STATIONS ARE GONE,

>> TV STATIONS ARE GONE,
NEWSPAPERS ARE NO LONGER

NEWSPAPERS ARE NO LONGER
COVERING THE FIRE.

COVERING THE FIRE.
WHAT'S HAPPENING?

WHAT'S HAPPENING?
IT'S BASICALLY RECOVERING.

IT'S BASICALLY RECOVERING.
IN SOME CASES THE FIRE BURNED

IN SOME CASES THE FIRE BURNED
SEVERELY AND RECOVERY CAN BE

SEVERELY AND RECOVERY CAN BE
SLOW.

SLOW.
IT CAN TAKE YEARS.

IT CAN TAKE YEARS.
IN OTHER CASES IT CAN BE QUICK.

IN OTHER CASES IT CAN BE QUICK.
IN YEARS YOU HAVE THE SAME PLANT

IN YEARS YOU HAVE THE SAME PLANT
COMMUNITY YOU HAD BEFORE THE

COMMUNITY YOU HAD BEFORE THE
FIRE.

FIRE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY

IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY
DIFFERENT OUTCOMES HAPPEN.

DIFFERENT OUTCOMES HAPPEN.
>> HOW IS IT TO BELIEVE POSSIBLE

>> HOW IS IT TO BELIEVE POSSIBLE
TO GO TO AN AREA WHERE THERE WAS

TO GO TO AN AREA WHERE THERE WAS
A FIRE, MAYBE A YEAR LATER,

A FIRE, MAYBE A YEAR LATER,
THERE'S SOME GREENERY AND STILL

THERE'S SOME GREENERY AND STILL
ASH?

ASH?
>> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT.
SO THE FIRST THING TO REMEMBER

SO THE FIRST THING TO REMEMBER
IN OUR SOUTH WESTERN ECO SYSTEMS

IN OUR SOUTH WESTERN ECO SYSTEMS
IS THAT FIRE IS PART OF THE

IS THAT FIRE IS PART OF THE
EVOLUTIONARY ENVIRONMENT OF

EVOLUTIONARY ENVIRONMENT OF
THESE ECO M SYSTEMS HUNDREDS OF

THESE ECO M SYSTEMS HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
ALL WILD LIFE AND VEGETATION ARE

ALL WILD LIFE AND VEGETATION ARE
ALL ADAPTED TO FIRES.

ALL ADAPTED TO FIRES.
IT SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISING THEY

IT SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISING THEY
BOUNCE BACK AND HAVE THE

BOUNCE BACK AND HAVE THE
CAPACITY.

CAPACITY.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMALS?

>> WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMALS?
>> IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

>> IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
WE ASSUME THE WILDFIRE IS

WE ASSUME THE WILDFIRE IS
UNMITIGATED DISASTER FOR WILD

UNMITIGATED DISASTER FOR WILD
LIFE.

LIFE.
IN FACT THE MORTALITY OF ANIMALS

IN FACT THE MORTALITY OF ANIMALS
EVEN DURING A WILDFIRE IS LOW.

EVEN DURING A WILDFIRE IS LOW.
ANIMALS CAN BURROW UNDERGROUND.

ANIMALS CAN BURROW UNDERGROUND.
THEY'RE PROTECT ED FROM THE

THEY'RE PROTECT ED FROM THE
HEAT.

HEAT.
BIG ANIMALS LIKE ELK AND BISON

BIG ANIMALS LIKE ELK AND BISON
CAN RUN AWAY.

CAN RUN AWAY.
WHEN WE STUDY WILD LIFE DURING

WHEN WE STUDY WILD LIFE DURING
WILDFIRES IT'S NOT A MAJOR

WILDFIRES IT'S NOT A MAJOR
PROBLEM.

PROBLEM.
IN FACT MANY BENEFIT.

IN FACT MANY BENEFIT.
RIGHT AFTER THE FIRE, THERE'S A

RIGHT AFTER THE FIRE, THERE'S A
NEW GROWTH.

NEW GROWTH.
THOSE EARLY POST FIRE

THOSE EARLY POST FIRE
ENVIRONMENTS CAN BE PRODUCTIVE

ENVIRONMENTS CAN BE PRODUCTIVE
AND PROVIDE GREAT FOOD FOR LOTS

AND PROVIDE GREAT FOOD FOR LOTS
OF WILD LIFE.

OF WILD LIFE.
>>> WE'VE SEEN THE MONUMENT FIRE

>>> WE'VE SEEN THE MONUMENT FIRE
WHERE PEOPLE LOSE HOMES AND

WHERE PEOPLE LOSE HOMES AND
BUSINESSES.

BUSINESSES.
THEN THERE ARE FOLKS THAT LOSE

THEN THERE ARE FOLKS THAT LOSE
PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE

PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE
AFTERMATH, RAIN COMING DOWN

AFTERMATH, RAIN COMING DOWN
BRINGING ASH TO LOWER LEVELS.

BRINGING ASH TO LOWER LEVELS.
WHAT EXACTLY TAKES PLACE WHEN

WHAT EXACTLY TAKES PLACE WHEN
THAT HAPPENS?

THAT HAPPENS?
>> THIS IS AN INTERESTING

>> THIS IS AN INTERESTING
SITUATION IN THE WEST THAT'S

SITUATION IN THE WEST THAT'S
REALLY ONLY APPRECIATED NOW.

REALLY ONLY APPRECIATED NOW.
WE HAD THE CANYON FIRE IN

WE HAD THE CANYON FIRE IN
COLORADO LAST YEAR.

COLORADO LAST YEAR.
MULTIPLE OTHER FIRES.

MULTIPLE OTHER FIRES.
THE FIRE IN FLAG STAFF WHERE IT

THE FIRE IN FLAG STAFF WHERE IT
WAS NOT SO MUCH THE FIRE ITSELF,

WAS NOT SO MUCH THE FIRE ITSELF,
NOT ONLY THE FIRE ITSELF, BUT

NOT ONLY THE FIRE ITSELF, BUT
WHAT WE CALL THE POST FIRE HYDRO

WHAT WE CALL THE POST FIRE HYDRO
LOGIC RESPONSE.

LOGIC RESPONSE.
YOU HAVE A BIG HIGH SEVERITY

YOU HAVE A BIG HIGH SEVERITY
FIRE AND A STRONG MONSOON.

FIRE AND A STRONG MONSOON.
YOU WOULD THINK A STRONG MONSOON

YOU WOULD THINK A STRONG MONSOON
WOULD BE A GOOD THING AND HELP

WOULD BE A GOOD THING AND HELP
THE ECOSYSTEM TO RECOVER.

THE ECOSYSTEM TO RECOVER.
THAT'S TRURKS BUT AREAS ON STEEP

THAT'S TRURKS BUT AREAS ON STEEP
SLOPES THAT ARE SE VOOERLY

SLOPES THAT ARE SE VOOERLY
BURNED, YOU GET NORMOUS WASHING

BURNED, YOU GET NORMOUS WASHING
DOWN IN THE STREAMS.

DOWN IN THE STREAMS.
ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE A

ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE A
THOUSAND YEAR FLOOD HAPPENING

THOUSAND YEAR FLOOD HAPPENING
AFTER A FAIRLY NORMAL RAINFALL.

AFTER A FAIRLY NORMAL RAINFALL.
THIS POST FIRE HYDRO LOGIC

THIS POST FIRE HYDRO LOGIC
RESPONSE MEANS THAT NOW

RESPONSE MEANS THAT NOW
COMMUNITIES ARE AT RISK FROM NOT

COMMUNITIES ARE AT RISK FROM NOT
SO MUCH THE FIRE ITSELF BUT FROM

SO MUCH THE FIRE ITSELF BUT FROM
THE FLOODING AFTER THE FIRE.

THE FLOODING AFTER THE FIRE.
>> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A
HARD TIME BELIEVING COMMUNITIES

HARD TIME BELIEVING COMMUNITIES
CAN ACTUALLY SURVIVE AND

CAN ACTUALLY SURVIVE AND
FLOURISH AFTER A FIRE.

FLOURISH AFTER A FIRE.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE
THAT SAY, WOW HOW DID THAT

THAT SAY, WOW HOW DID THAT
HAPPEN?

HAPPEN?
>> THE CAPACITY HAS THE RECOVERY

>> THE CAPACITY HAS THE RECOVERY
BECAUSE THERE ARE STRATEGIES FOR

BECAUSE THERE ARE STRATEGIES FOR
SURVIVING.

SURVIVING.
PLANTS RESPROUT.

PLANTS RESPROUT.
ASPEN WHICH WE ALL LOVE IS A

ASPEN WHICH WE ALL LOVE IS A
POST FIRE REGENERATING SPECIES.

POST FIRE REGENERATING SPECIES.
IT WAITS FOR FIRE.

IT WAITS FOR FIRE.
ASPEN WILL ACTUALLY COME UP AND

ASPEN WILL ACTUALLY COME UP AND
HAVE THE MOMENT IN THE SUN

HAVE THE MOMENT IN THE SUN
LITERALLY.

LITERALLY.
IN MANY WILD LIFE HAVE INCREASED

IN MANY WILD LIFE HAVE INCREASED
FOOD RESOURCE AFTER FIRES.

FOOD RESOURCE AFTER FIRES.
TREE SPECIES WILL GO THROUGH A

TREE SPECIES WILL GO THROUGH A
PERIOD OF TIME THEY'RE NOT

PERIOD OF TIME THEY'RE NOT
PRESENT.

PRESENT.
THEY'LL START TO PUT SEEDS BACK

THEY'LL START TO PUT SEEDS BACK
INTO THE ECOSYSTEM.

INTO THE ECOSYSTEM.
THERE ARE MANY, MANY DIFFERENT

THERE ARE MANY, MANY DIFFERENT
PATHWAYS FOR AN ECOSYSTEM TO

PATHWAYS FOR AN ECOSYSTEM TO
RECOVER.

RECOVER.
THE KEY THING REALLY IS WHAT WE

THE KEY THING REALLY IS WHAT WE
CALL SEVERITY.

CALL SEVERITY.
THAT'S HOW STRONG WAS THE IMPACT

THAT'S HOW STRONG WAS THE IMPACT
OF THE FIRE AT THE TIME IT

OF THE FIRE AT THE TIME IT
HAPPENED?

HAPPENED?
IF THE FIRE IS LOW SEVERITY

IF THE FIRE IS LOW SEVERITY
WHICH MEANS MOST TREES OR SHRUBS

WHICH MEANS MOST TREES OR SHRUBS
THERE BEFORE THE FIRE SURVIVE,

THERE BEFORE THE FIRE SURVIVE,
ALMOST CERTAINLY WITHIN A SHORT

ALMOST CERTAINLY WITHIN A SHORT
AMOUNT OF TIME, IN A FEW YEAR,

AMOUNT OF TIME, IN A FEW YEAR,
THEY'LL BOUNCE BACK TO THE PLANT

THEY'LL BOUNCE BACK TO THE PLANT
COMMUNITY YOU HAD BEFOREHAND.

COMMUNITY YOU HAD BEFOREHAND.
IF MOST TREES AND SHRUBS ARE

IF MOST TREES AND SHRUBS ARE
KILLED IN A HIGH SEVERITY FIRE,

KILLED IN A HIGH SEVERITY FIRE,
THEN YOU MAY LOSE FOREST

THEN YOU MAY LOSE FOREST
ENTIRELY.

ENTIRELY.
YOU MACON VERT FROM FORESTED

YOU MACON VERT FROM FORESTED
AREA TO SHRUB LAND AND NOT COME

AREA TO SHRUB LAND AND NOT COME
BACK.

BACK.
IN FACTS, BIG AREAS OF THE

IN FACTS, BIG AREAS OF THE
CATALINAS OUTSIDE OF TUCSON.

CATALINAS OUTSIDE OF TUCSON.
WE'VE SEEN LARGE AREAS THAT

WE'VE SEEN LARGE AREAS THAT
BURNED IN THE ASPEN FIRES ABOUT

BURNED IN THE ASPEN FIRES ABOUT
A DECADE AGO.

A DECADE AGO.
THEY'RE CONVERTED TO SHRUB LAND.

THEY'RE CONVERTED TO SHRUB LAND.
>> SOME MIGHT LISTEN TO THIS AND

>> SOME MIGHT LISTEN TO THIS AND
SAY IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETIMES A

SAY IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETIMES A
FIRE CAN BE POSITIVE FOR THE

FIRE CAN BE POSITIVE FOR THE
ECOSYSTEM.

ECOSYSTEM.
IS THAT A FAR STRETCH?

IS THAT A FAR STRETCH?
>> IT'S NOT A STRETCH AT ALL.

>> IT'S NOT A STRETCH AT ALL.
IT SEEMS TO US THAT FIRE IS LIKE

IT SEEMS TO US THAT FIRE IS LIKE
A DISEASE OR HURRICANE.

A DISEASE OR HURRICANE.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT
THAT.

THAT.
THE FACT IS FIRE HAS BEEN PART

THE FACT IS FIRE HAS BEEN PART
OF ECOSYSTEMS ON EARTH FOR AT

OF ECOSYSTEMS ON EARTH FOR AT
LEAST 400 MILLION YEARS, ALMOST

LEAST 400 MILLION YEARS, ALMOST
AS LONG AS PLANTS HAVE BEEN

AS LONG AS PLANTS HAVE BEEN
LIVING ON LAND WE HAVE EVIDENCE

LIVING ON LAND WE HAVE EVIDENCE
OF FIERCHLT IT'S AFTER I

OF FIERCHLT IT'S AFTER I
NATURAL, FUNDAMENTAL PROCESS.

NATURAL, FUNDAMENTAL PROCESS.
IT'S IN THE RECYCLING NUTRIENTS

IT'S IN THE RECYCLING NUTRIENTS
IN PLANT EVOLUTION.

IN PLANT EVOLUTION.
THERE ARE WAYS ALL LIFE ON EARTH

THERE ARE WAYS ALL LIFE ON EARTH
HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY FIRE N. THE

HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY FIRE N. THE
LAST COUPLE OF DECADES WE'VE

LAST COUPLE OF DECADES WE'VE
BECOME TO APPRECIATE HOW FIRE

BECOME TO APPRECIATE HOW FIRE
IS.

IS.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS RESTRICTED TO

WE THOUGHT IT WAS RESTRICTED TO
CERTAIN AREAS AND SPOESHL

CERTAIN AREAS AND SPOESHL
CIRCUMSTANCES.

CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE SEE EVIDENCE OF FIRE IN THE

WE SEE EVIDENCE OF FIRE IN THE
TROPICS, THE FOREST, ASIA,

TROPICS, THE FOREST, ASIA,
CANADA.

CANADA.
ALMOST EVERYWHERE WE LOOK, WE

ALMOST EVERYWHERE WE LOOK, WE
SEE EVIDENCE OF THE FIRE INTO

SEE EVIDENCE OF THE FIRE INTO
POLLEN AND TREE RING RECORD.

POLLEN AND TREE RING RECORD.
>> IS ARIZONA MORE SUSCEPTIBLE

>> IS ARIZONA MORE SUSCEPTIBLE
TO SUSTAINING WILDFIRES THAN

TO SUSTAINING WILDFIRES THAN
OTHER STATES BECAUSE OF THE

OTHER STATES BECAUSE OF THE
TERRAIN HERE?

TERRAIN HERE?
>> SO THERE'S A QUESTION OF

>> SO THERE'S A QUESTION OF
VULNERABILITY NOW.

VULNERABILITY NOW.
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, WHAT

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, WHAT
MAKES CERTAIN AREAS MORE

MAKES CERTAIN AREAS MORE
VULNERABLE?

VULNERABLE?
LET'S ASK SPECIFICALLY LIKE A

LET'S ASK SPECIFICALLY LIKE A
GAME CHANGING FIRE.

GAME CHANGING FIRE.
ALL AREAS THROUGHOUT THE WEST

ALL AREAS THROUGHOUT THE WEST
HAVE FIRE.

HAVE FIRE.
THE QUESTION IS, WHAT KINDS OF

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT KINDS OF
FIRE WOULD REALLY ELIMINATE

FIRE WOULD REALLY ELIMINATE
FOREST AND CAUSE A CONVERSION TO

FOREST AND CAUSE A CONVERSION TO
SHRUB OR GRASS LAND?

SHRUB OR GRASS LAND?
WE HAVE A BIG CHANGE.

WE HAVE A BIG CHANGE.
WELL, SO WE HAVE IN THE SKY LAND

WELL, SO WE HAVE IN THE SKY LAND
STEEP TOPOGRAPHY, COMPLEX

STEEP TOPOGRAPHY, COMPLEX
GEOLOGY.

GEOLOGY.
WE'RE SEMI A RID.

WE'RE SEMI A RID.
THIS YEAR WE HAD A POOR

THIS YEAR WE HAD A POOR
RAINFALL.

RAINFALL.
A LOT OF PLANTS ARE DROUGHT

A LOT OF PLANTS ARE DROUGHT
STRESSED.

STRESSED.
IN THAT CONDITION THEY'RE ABLE

IN THAT CONDITION THEY'RE ABLE
TO CARRY FIRE QUICKLY.

TO CARRY FIRE QUICKLY.
YOU HAVE THE RECIPE OF CARRYING

YOU HAVE THE RECIPE OF CARRYING
A BIG FIRE.

A BIG FIRE.
I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS
TO RECOGNIZE THAT FIRE IS,

TO RECOGNIZE THAT FIRE IS,
ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND ALWAYS WILL

ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND ALWAYS WILL
BE PART OF ECOSYSTEMS.

BE PART OF ECOSYSTEMS.
IT'S IN OUR INTEREST TO LEARN TO

IT'S IN OUR INTEREST TO LEARN TO
ADAPT TO FIRE.

ADAPT TO FIRE.
THE MORE WE TRY TO PUSH IT OUT

THE MORE WE TRY TO PUSH IT OUT
AND EXCLUDE IT, EVENTUALLY IT

AND EXCLUDE IT, EVENTUALLY IT
COMES BACK AND BITES US TEN

COMES BACK AND BITES US TEN
TIMES AS HARD.

TIMES AS HARD.
WE'LL R WE'D KB BETTER OFF

WE'LL R WE'D KB BETTER OFF
LEARNING TO MANAGE OUR LAND

LEARNING TO MANAGE OUR LAND
YOOUS AND DEVELOPMENT TO LIVE

YOOUS AND DEVELOPMENT TO LIVE
WITH FIRE SUSTAINABILITY.

WITH FIRE SUSTAINABILITY.
>>> THAT COMPLETES OUR WILDFIRE

>>> THAT COMPLETES OUR WILDFIRE
COVERAGE.

COVERAGE.
FROM THE MOUNTAIN, I'M LORAIN.

FROM THE MOUNTAIN, I'M LORAIN.
WE'LL SEND IT BACK TO THE STUDIO

WE'LL SEND IT BACK TO THE STUDIO
FOR THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE

FOR THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE
CHRISTOPHER.

CHRISTOPHER.
>>> THE BUZZ THIS WEEK WAS THE

>>> THE BUZZ THIS WEEK WAS THE
CONTINUING SHOW DOWN ON THE

CONTINUING SHOW DOWN ON THE
BUDGET.

BUDGET.
THE SENATE TOOK OVER THE HOUSE

THE SENATE TOOK OVER THE HOUSE
BUDGET, STRIPPED OUT ADDITIONS

BUDGET, STRIPPED OUT ADDITIONS
THE HOUSE PUT IN AND SENT IT

THE HOUSE PUT IN AND SENT IT
BACK.

BACK.
NOT SURPRISINGLY THE HOUSE DID

NOT SURPRISINGLY THE HOUSE DID
NOT AGREE.

NOT AGREE.
IN PASS BEGAN.

IN PASS BEGAN.
AT THE END OF THE WEEK IT WAS

AT THE END OF THE WEEK IT WAS
OBVIOUSLY THE IMPASSE WAS DEEP.

OBVIOUSLY THE IMPASSE WAS DEEP.
WHEN THE HOUSE FINISHED THE

WHEN THE HOUSE FINISHED THE
FLOOR SESSION THURSDAY, ANDY

FLOOR SESSION THURSDAY, ANDY
APPOINTED HIMSELF AND ERIC MIRE

APPOINTED HIMSELF AND ERIC MIRE
TO A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE TO

TO A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE TO
HASH OUT WITH THE SENATE.

HASH OUT WITH THE SENATE.
MOMENTS LATER, THE SENATE

MOMENTS LATER, THE SENATE
WRAPPED UP WORK FOR THE WEEK.

WRAPPED UP WORK FOR THE WEEK.
ANDY BIGS DID NOT APPOINT A

ANDY BIGS DID NOT APPOINT A
CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.

CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.
OFFICIALLY THAT MEANS THERE WILL

OFFICIALLY THAT MEANS THERE WILL
BE NO TALKS OVER THE WEEKEND.

BE NO TALKS OVER THE WEEKEND.
IN REALITY THE FACT THE HOUSE

IN REALITY THE FACT THE HOUSE
APPOINTED A COMMITTEE AND HOUSE

APPOINTED A COMMITTEE AND HOUSE
DID NOT, INFORMAL TALKS BETWEEN

DID NOT, INFORMAL TALKS BETWEEN
THE CHAMBERS ARE NOT YIELDING

THE CHAMBERS ARE NOT YIELDING
SPENDING AGREEMENTS.

SPENDING AGREEMENTS.
BIGS IS NOT INDICATES HE'S NOT

BIGS IS NOT INDICATES HE'S NOT
WILLING TO NEGOTIATE SOME OF THE

WILLING TO NEGOTIATE SOME OF THE
POINTS UNTIL HOUSE LEADERS HAVE

POINTS UNTIL HOUSE LEADERS HAVE
VOTES TO PASS PROPOSALS.

VOTES TO PASS PROPOSALS.
COMPLICATES BACK AND FORTH IN

COMPLICATES BACK AND FORTH IN
THE LEGISLATOR IS GOVERNOR.

THE LEGISLATOR IS GOVERNOR.
SHE'S REPEATEDLY INDICATED SHE

SHE'S REPEATEDLY INDICATED SHE
DOESN'T LIKE THE SENATE BUDGET

DOESN'T LIKE THE SENATE BUDGET
PLAN AND WOULD VETO IT.

PLAN AND WOULD VETO IT.
SHE TOULD LAWMAKER THIS IS WEEK

SHE TOULD LAWMAKER THIS IS WEEK
BUDGET IS A PRIORITY AND SHE'LL

BUDGET IS A PRIORITY AND SHE'LL
VETO ANY BILL THEY SEND BEFORE

VETO ANY BILL THEY SEND BEFORE
IT ARRIVES BEFORE THE BUDGET.

IT ARRIVES BEFORE THE BUDGET.
THAT'S THE BUZZ THIS WEEK.

THAT'S THE BUZZ THIS WEEK.
WE'VE REACHED THE END OF THIS

WE'VE REACHED THE END OF THIS
EPISODE OF ARIZONA WEEK.

EPISODE OF ARIZONA WEEK.
FOR THE ENTIRE ARIZONA WEEK

FOR THE ENTIRE ARIZONA WEEK
TEAM, IT'S CHRISTOPHER CER