WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:03.402 >>> REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR JAN BREWER MAKES HER 00:03.404 --> 00:04.136 BREWER MAKES HER COUNTERINTUITIVE POLITICAL MOVE 00:04.138 --> 00:06.105 COUNTERINTUITIVE POLITICAL MOVE TO EXPAND MEDICAID. 00:06.107 --> 00:08.073 TO EXPAND MEDICAID. >> THIS MEDICAID RESTORATION 00:08.075 --> 00:10.309 >> THIS MEDICAID RESTORATION PLAN WILL BRING $8 BILLION INTO 00:10.311 --> 00:11.276 PLAN WILL BRING $8 BILLION INTO OUR ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT FOUR 00:11.278 --> 00:13.045 OUR ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. 00:13.047 --> 00:16.281 YEARS. IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A 00:16.283 --> 00:17.916 IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS 00:17.918 --> 00:18.817 SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF 00:18.819 --> 00:20.219 STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF CARING FOR THE UNINSURED. 00:20.221 --> 00:22.588 CARING FOR THE UNINSURED. >> DEMOCRATS ARE ALL FOR IT, BUT 00:22.590 --> 00:26.592 >> DEMOCRATS ARE ALL FOR IT, BUT WILL BREWER SELL A REPUBLICANS 00:26.594 --> 00:26.925 WILL BREWER SELL A REPUBLICANS BUY-IN? 00:26.927 --> 00:28.427 BUY-IN? >> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON 00:28.429 --> 00:28.727 >> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON THIS. 00:28.729 --> 00:29.928 THIS. WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT 00:29.930 --> 00:30.996 WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN HER STATE OF THE UNION 00:30.998 --> 00:32.131 IN HER STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE 00:32.133 --> 00:33.499 SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND 00:33.501 --> 00:34.333 THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND APPLAUDED HER. 00:34.335 --> 00:36.101 APPLAUDED HER. I WAS SO SURPRISED. 00:36.103 --> 00:38.437 I WAS SO SURPRISED. >> WILL I STAND WITH MY 00:38.439 --> 00:39.371 >> WILL I STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND 00:39.373 --> 00:42.174 CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF 00:42.176 --> 00:43.575 I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF ARIZONIANS IN REJECTING 00:43.577 --> 00:45.411 ARIZONIANS IN REJECTING OBAMACARE IN THIS STATE, THIS 00:45.413 --> 00:47.212 OBAMACARE IN THIS STATE, THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE STATE OF 00:47.214 --> 00:47.546 WILL BANKRUPT THE STATE OF ARIZONA. 00:47.548 --> 00:49.982 ARIZONA. >> STATE CAPITOL POLITICS TURNED 00:49.984 --> 00:50.349 >> STATE CAPITOL POLITICS TURNED SIDEWAYS. 00:50.351 --> 00:51.884 SIDEWAYS. IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." 00:51.886 --> 00:53.652 IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." >> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" 00:53.654 --> 00:54.987 >> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A 00:54.989 --> 00:56.588 IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL 00:56.590 --> 00:58.323 GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF 00:58.325 --> 00:59.258 FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF ARIZONA MUST BE MEDIA. 00:59.260 --> 00:59.958 ARIZONA MUST BE MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED 00:59.960 --> 01:04.630 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. 01:04.632 --> 01:19.011 >>> ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR. >> GOVERNOR BREWER HAS STEPPED 01:19.013 --> 01:21.413 >> GOVERNOR BREWER HAS STEPPED INTO ARIZONA'S POLITICAL BREACH 01:21.415 --> 01:23.415 INTO ARIZONA'S POLITICAL BREACH BY PROPOSING THAT THE STATE 01:23.417 --> 01:24.817 BY PROPOSING THAT THE STATE ACCEPT FEDERAL AFFORDABLE CARE 01:24.819 --> 01:28.120 ACCEPT FEDERAL AFFORDABLE CARE ACT MONEY TO EXPAND MEDICAID. 01:28.122 --> 01:29.888 ACT MONEY TO EXPAND MEDICAID. SHE SAYS IT WOULD PROVIDE HEALTH 01:29.890 --> 01:35.194 SHE SAYS IT WOULD PROVIDE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR AN ADECISIDITIONA 01:35.196 --> 01:35.994 INSURANCE FOR AN ADECISIDITIONA 240,000 PEOPLE. 01:35.996 --> 01:37.262 240,000 PEOPLE. BUT KEY REPUBLICANS IN THE 01:37.264 --> 01:39.031 BUT KEY REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE SAY THEY'RE OPPOSED. 01:39.033 --> 01:40.132 LEGISLATURE SAY THEY'RE OPPOSED. TONIGHT WE'LL EXPLORE THE TEST 01:40.134 --> 01:42.701 TONIGHT WE'LL EXPLORE THE TEST OF WILLS THAT IS TAKING SHAPE. 01:42.703 --> 01:44.236 OF WILLS THAT IS TAKING SHAPE. FIRST, THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL 01:44.238 --> 01:45.204 FIRST, THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL AS SHE PRESENTED IT THIS WEEK AT 01:45.206 --> 01:47.439 AS SHE PRESENTED IT THIS WEEK AT THE STATE CAPITOL. 01:47.441 --> 01:49.541 THE STATE CAPITOL. >> ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE 01:49.543 --> 01:51.510 >> ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED THIS 01:51.512 --> 01:54.079 CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED THIS PROGRAM AND HAVE TWICE VOTED BY 01:54.081 --> 01:56.048 PROGRAM AND HAVE TWICE VOTED BY WIDE MARGINS TO EXPAND COVERAGE 01:56.050 --> 01:56.715 WIDE MARGINS TO EXPAND COVERAGE FOR THE WORKING POOR IN OUR 01:56.717 --> 01:59.051 FOR THE WORKING POOR IN OUR STATE. 01:59.053 --> 02:01.019 STATE. TODAY I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT 02:01.021 --> 02:04.256 TODAY I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE CRAFTED A THOUGHTFUL, 02:04.258 --> 02:05.657 WE HAVE CRAFTED A THOUGHTFUL, CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION THAT 02:05.659 --> 02:06.391 CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION THAT HONORS THE WILL OF THE ARIZONA 02:06.393 --> 02:08.127 HONORS THE WILL OF THE ARIZONA VOTERS. 02:08.129 --> 02:10.295 VOTERS. WHAT'S MORE, THIS MEDICAID 02:10.297 --> 02:12.764 WHAT'S MORE, THIS MEDICAID RESTORATION PLAN WILL BRING $8 02:12.766 --> 02:13.899 RESTORATION PLAN WILL BRING $8 BILLION INTO OUR ECONOMY OVER 02:13.901 --> 02:15.901 BILLION INTO OUR ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. 02:15.903 --> 02:19.171 THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A 02:19.173 --> 02:21.039 IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS 02:21.041 --> 02:21.974 SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF 02:21.976 --> 02:23.208 STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF CARING FOR THE UNINSURED. 02:23.210 --> 02:24.543 CARING FOR THE UNINSURED. AND IT WILL KEEP ARIZONA'S TAX 02:24.545 --> 02:27.045 AND IT WILL KEEP ARIZONA'S TAX DOLLARS HERE AT HOME. 02:27.047 --> 02:28.814 DOLLARS HERE AT HOME. RATHER THAN ALLOWING THEM TO GO 02:28.816 --> 02:30.549 RATHER THAN ALLOWING THEM TO GO TO WASHINGTON TO BE SPENT ON WHO 02:30.551 --> 02:32.885 TO WASHINGTON TO BE SPENT ON WHO KNOWS WHAT. 02:32.887 --> 02:36.655 KNOWS WHAT. BEST OF ALL, MY PLAN COMES AT NO 02:36.657 --> 02:38.924 BEST OF ALL, MY PLAN COMES AT NO COST TO OUR STATE GENERAL FUND. 02:38.926 --> 02:40.526 COST TO OUR STATE GENERAL FUND. >> BREWER HAS SUSPENDED HER 02:40.528 --> 02:41.793 >> BREWER HAS SUSPENDED HER OPPOSITION TO PART OF THE 02:41.795 --> 02:43.195 OPPOSITION TO PART OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO PUSH 02:43.197 --> 02:45.264 AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO PUSH MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE STATE. 02:45.266 --> 02:48.233 MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE STATE. SHE INSISTS HERS IS A CONSISTENT 02:48.235 --> 02:48.934 SHE INSISTS HERS IS A CONSISTENT CONSERVATIVE POSITION. 02:48.936 --> 02:50.202 CONSERVATIVE POSITION. EVEN TYING HEALTH CARE FOR THE 02:50.204 --> 02:52.504 EVEN TYING HEALTH CARE FOR THE POOR TO THE PRO-LIFE STANCE THAT 02:52.506 --> 02:53.772 POOR TO THE PRO-LIFE STANCE THAT SHE SAYS IS HER TRUE CHARACTER 02:53.774 --> 02:55.607 SHE SAYS IS HER TRUE CHARACTER AND THAT OF OTHER REPUBLICANS. 02:55.609 --> 02:57.242 AND THAT OF OTHER REPUBLICANS. >> BUT THERE'S SOMETHING EVEN 02:57.244 --> 02:58.243 >> BUT THERE'S SOMETHING EVEN MORE IMPORTANT AT STAKE TODAY. 02:58.245 --> 03:00.879 MORE IMPORTANT AT STAKE TODAY. PEOPLE. 03:00.881 --> 03:02.548 PEOPLE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TENS OF 03:02.550 --> 03:04.816 I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF OUR FELLOW 03:04.818 --> 03:06.485 THOUSANDS OF OUR FELLOW ARIZONIANS WHO HAVE LOST JOBS 03:06.487 --> 03:07.152 ARIZONIANS WHO HAVE LOST JOBS AND THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE 03:07.154 --> 03:08.754 AND THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE DURING THE GREAT RECESSION. 03:08.756 --> 03:10.789 DURING THE GREAT RECESSION. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS 03:10.791 --> 03:12.824 I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS MORE WHO CONTINUE TO WORK BUT 03:12.826 --> 03:13.959 MORE WHO CONTINUE TO WORK BUT SIMPLY DON'T EARN ENOUGH TO 03:13.961 --> 03:16.395 SIMPLY DON'T EARN ENOUGH TO AFFORD PRIVATE INSURANCE. 03:16.397 --> 03:17.996 AFFORD PRIVATE INSURANCE. IF YOU'RE ONE OF THESE 03:17.998 --> 03:20.165 IF YOU'RE ONE OF THESE ARIZONIANS AND YOU DON'T HAVE 03:20.167 --> 03:21.033 ARIZONIANS AND YOU DON'T HAVE CHILDREN, YOU'RE CURRENTLY 03:21.035 --> 03:21.667 CHILDREN, YOU'RE CURRENTLY LOCKED OUT OF OUR ACCESS 03:21.669 --> 03:25.704 LOCKED OUT OF OUR ACCESS PROGRAM. 03:25.706 --> 03:28.807 PROGRAM. THEY WALK A DAILY TIGHTROPE 03:28.809 --> 03:30.375 THEY WALK A DAILY TIGHTROPE KNOWING THEY ARE ONE-CAR 03:30.377 --> 03:32.044 KNOWING THEY ARE ONE-CAR ACCIDENT, ONE FREAK INJURY OR 03:32.046 --> 03:33.879 ACCIDENT, ONE FREAK INJURY OR ONE SERIOUS ILLNESS AWAY FROM 03:33.881 --> 03:37.249 ONE SERIOUS ILLNESS AWAY FROM DISASTER. 03:37.251 --> 03:38.584 DISASTER. WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NEED 03:38.586 --> 03:40.352 WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NEED CARE, THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY 03:40.354 --> 03:41.019 CARE, THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM IS USUALLY THEIR ONLY 03:41.021 --> 03:42.821 ROOM IS USUALLY THEIR ONLY OPTION. 03:42.823 --> 03:44.323 OPTION. THIS IS NOT JUST THE MOST 03:44.325 --> 03:46.925 THIS IS NOT JUST THE MOST EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR TAXPAYERS, 03:46.927 --> 03:50.295 EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR TAXPAYERS, IT IS THE LEAST EFFECTIVE WAY TO 03:50.297 --> 03:51.029 IT IS THE LEAST EFFECTIVE WAY TO TREAT A CHRONIC CONDITION LIKE 03:51.031 --> 03:53.232 TREAT A CHRONIC CONDITION LIKE CANCER OR DIABETES. 03:53.234 --> 03:55.901 CANCER OR DIABETES. SO THE PATIENTS GET SICKER, AND 03:55.903 --> 03:58.136 SO THE PATIENTS GET SICKER, AND THE REST OF ARIZONA PAYS FOR IT. 03:58.138 --> 04:01.273 THE REST OF ARIZONA PAYS FOR IT. >> THE MEDICAID PROPOSAL WOULD 04:01.275 --> 04:03.208 >> THE MEDICAID PROPOSAL WOULD EXPAND ELIGIBILITY FOR THE 04:03.210 --> 04:04.843 EXPAND ELIGIBILITY FOR THE FEDERAL HEALTH PLAN TO PEOPLE 04:04.845 --> 04:07.112 FEDERAL HEALTH PLAN TO PEOPLE WHOSE INCOMES ARE AT 133% OF THE 04:07.114 --> 04:08.113 WHOSE INCOMES ARE AT 133% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. 04:08.115 --> 04:09.481 FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. THAT MEANS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT AN 04:09.483 --> 04:11.116 THAT MEANS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WITH AN INCOME OF 04:11.118 --> 04:13.485 INDIVIDUAL WITH AN INCOME OF $15,000 A YEAR WOULD BE 04:13.487 --> 04:13.852 $15,000 A YEAR WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. 04:13.854 --> 04:15.787 ELIGIBLE. AS WOULD A FAMILY OF FOUR WITH 04:15.789 --> 04:18.357 AS WOULD A FAMILY OF FOUR WITH TOTAL INCOME OF $31,000 A YEAR. 04:18.359 --> 04:20.826 TOTAL INCOME OF $31,000 A YEAR. >> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE 04:20.828 --> 04:23.829 >> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF A PRO-LIFE PARTY. 04:23.831 --> 04:26.865 A MEMBER OF A PRO-LIFE PARTY. WITH THIS LEGISLATION, WE'RE 04:26.867 --> 04:27.599 WITH THIS LEGISLATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. 04:27.601 --> 04:28.967 TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING 04:28.969 --> 04:31.136 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES. 04:31.138 --> 04:34.906 PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'M A PRO-LIFE GOVERNOR. 04:34.908 --> 04:36.541 I'M A PRO-LIFE GOVERNOR. I REFUSE TO STAND BY AND ALLOW 04:36.543 --> 04:38.977 I REFUSE TO STAND BY AND ALLOW THIS MANY PEOPLE TO NEEDLESSLY 04:38.979 --> 04:40.579 THIS MANY PEOPLE TO NEEDLESSLY SUFFER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE 04:40.581 --> 04:43.715 SUFFER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE A SOLUTION. 04:43.717 --> 04:48.387 A SOLUTION. THAT'S WHAT -- THANK YOU. 04:48.389 --> 04:50.522 THAT'S WHAT -- THANK YOU. >> THE STATE WOULD GET A 04:50.524 --> 04:51.690 >> THE STATE WOULD GET A WINDFALL FROM EXPANSION, 04:51.692 --> 04:53.625 WINDFALL FROM EXPANSION, ESTIMATED AT $1.6 BILLION A 04:53.627 --> 04:53.925 ESTIMATED AT $1.6 BILLION A YEAR. 04:53.927 --> 04:56.061 YEAR. ALL COSTS WOULD BE BORNE BY THE 04:56.063 --> 04:56.962 ALL COSTS WOULD BE BORNE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE EARLY 04:56.964 --> 04:58.830 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE EARLY YEARS GOING TO 90% FEDERAL 04:58.832 --> 05:00.899 YEARS GOING TO 90% FEDERAL COVERAGE AFTER THREE YEARS. 05:00.901 --> 05:02.768 COVERAGE AFTER THREE YEARS. EVEN THEN BREWER'S PLAN CALLS 05:02.770 --> 05:04.503 EVEN THEN BREWER'S PLAN CALLS FOR THE STATE'S SHARE ESTIMATED 05:04.505 --> 05:07.172 FOR THE STATE'S SHARE ESTIMATED AT $250 MILLION A YEAR TO BE 05:07.174 --> 05:09.141 AT $250 MILLION A YEAR TO BE COVERED BY A FEE ON HOSPITALS 05:09.143 --> 05:09.741 COVERED BY A FEE ON HOSPITALS AND NOT COME FROM STATE 05:09.743 --> 05:11.877 AND NOT COME FROM STATE TAXPAYERS. 05:11.879 --> 05:13.478 TAXPAYERS. BREWER HAS ASSEMBLED A BROAD 05:13.480 --> 05:15.347 BREWER HAS ASSEMBLED A BROAD COALITION OF SUPPORT FOR THE 05:15.349 --> 05:16.882 COALITION OF SUPPORT FOR THE EXPANSION, AND SHE WAS QUICK TO 05:16.884 --> 05:18.583 EXPANSION, AND SHE WAS QUICK TO SHOW THAT OFF AND TO EMPHASIZE 05:18.585 --> 05:21.086 SHOW THAT OFF AND TO EMPHASIZE THAT ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE 05:21.088 --> 05:22.220 THAT ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE APPROVED EXPANDED HEALTH CARE 05:22.222 --> 05:23.322 APPROVED EXPANDED HEALTH CARE FOR THE POOR MORE THAN ONCE. 05:23.324 --> 05:27.359 FOR THE POOR MORE THAN ONCE. >> I AM SO HONORED TODAY TO BE 05:27.361 --> 05:29.995 >> I AM SO HONORED TODAY TO BE HERE, JOINED BY THIS BROAD AND 05:29.997 --> 05:32.064 HERE, JOINED BY THIS BROAD AND DIVERSE COALITION REPRESENTING 05:32.066 --> 05:33.398 DIVERSE COALITION REPRESENTING MORE THAN 110 ORGANIZATIONS 05:33.400 --> 05:36.168 MORE THAN 110 ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS ARIZONA. 05:36.170 --> 05:39.404 ACROSS ARIZONA. BUSINESS LEADERS, DOCTORS, 05:39.406 --> 05:41.340 BUSINESS LEADERS, DOCTORS, NURSES, COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE 05:41.342 --> 05:44.443 NURSES, COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE CATHOLIC DIOCESE, UNIVERSITY 05:44.445 --> 05:45.110 CATHOLIC DIOCESE, UNIVERSITY REGENTS, MENTAL HEALTH 05:45.112 --> 05:55.887 REGENTS, MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND MORE. 05:55.889 --> 05:58.557 PROFESSIONALS AND MORE. WHAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS 05:58.559 --> 06:01.126 WHAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS THEIR DESIRE TO SEE THE ARIZONA 06:01.128 --> 06:02.994 THEIR DESIRE TO SEE THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE JOIN ME IN ENACTING 06:02.996 --> 06:05.831 LEGISLATURE JOIN ME IN ENACTING THIS PLAN TO RESTORE MEDICAID 06:05.833 --> 06:07.399 THIS PLAN TO RESTORE MEDICAID COVERAGE, BOOST OUR ECONOMY, 06:07.401 --> 06:09.935 COVERAGE, BOOST OUR ECONOMY, TAKE PRESSURE OFF OUR STATE 06:09.937 --> 06:11.403 TAKE PRESSURE OFF OUR STATE BUDGET, AND PROVIDE 06:11.405 --> 06:12.437 BUDGET, AND PROVIDE COST-EFFECTIVE CARE TO 06:12.439 --> 06:15.974 COST-EFFECTIVE CARE TO ARIZONIANS WHO NEED IT THE MOST. 06:15.976 --> 06:20.445 ARIZONIANS WHO NEED IT THE MOST. AND REMEMBER, ARIZONIANS VOTED 06:20.447 --> 06:22.147 AND REMEMBER, ARIZONIANS VOTED TWICE DEMANDED THIS. 06:22.149 --> 06:22.814 TWICE DEMANDED THIS. TWICE THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA 06:22.816 --> 06:24.149 TWICE THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA VOTED. 06:24.151 --> 06:26.151 VOTED. >> LEGISLATIVE REACTION WAS 06:26.153 --> 06:27.652 >> LEGISLATIVE REACTION WAS SWIFT AND DECISIVE. 06:27.654 --> 06:29.287 SWIFT AND DECISIVE. ELECTED OFFICIALS ALREADY WERE 06:29.289 --> 06:31.690 ELECTED OFFICIALS ALREADY WERE LARGELY IN TWO CAMPS BEFORE THE 06:31.692 --> 06:32.124 LARGELY IN TWO CAMPS BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT. 06:32.126 --> 06:32.858 ANNOUNCEMENT. AND IT SERVED TO INTENSIFY THEIR 06:32.860 --> 06:36.928 AND IT SERVED TO INTENSIFY THEIR STANCE. 06:36.930 --> 06:38.130 STANCE. WHAT'S YOUR STAND ON THE 06:38.132 --> 06:39.664 WHAT'S YOUR STAND ON THE MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PROPOSED 06:39.666 --> 06:40.699 MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PROPOSED BY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER? 06:40.701 --> 06:42.501 BY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER? >> I SUPPORT HER WHOLEHEARTEDLY. 06:42.503 --> 06:43.802 >> I SUPPORT HER WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED 06:43.804 --> 06:45.771 I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO ESPECIALLY WITH THE RURAL 06:45.773 --> 06:47.139 TO DO ESPECIALLY WITH THE RURAL HOSPITALS. 06:47.141 --> 06:48.039 HOSPITALS. WE HAVE RURALS THAT ARE ABOUT TO 06:48.041 --> 06:49.341 WE HAVE RURALS THAT ARE ABOUT TO GO BROKE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'VE 06:49.343 --> 06:50.742 GO BROKE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'VE HAD UNCOMPENSATED CARE FOR THE 06:50.744 --> 06:52.344 HAD UNCOMPENSATED CARE FOR THE LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS. 06:52.346 --> 06:54.413 LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS. AND IT'S TIME WE COME BACK IN 06:54.415 --> 06:57.382 AND IT'S TIME WE COME BACK IN AND START WITH THE 204 06:57.384 --> 06:58.450 AND START WITH THE 204 POPULATION, WHICH IS THE 06:58.452 --> 07:00.719 POPULATION, WHICH IS THE CHILDLESS ADULTS FIRST, AND THEN 07:00.721 --> 07:02.087 CHILDLESS ADULTS FIRST, AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO GO ON, AND IT'S 07:02.089 --> 07:03.422 WE'VE GOT TO GO ON, AND IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF MONEY 07:03.424 --> 07:03.989 GOING TO BRING A LOT OF MONEY INTO ARIZONA. 07:03.991 --> 07:05.223 INTO ARIZONA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH CARE 07:05.225 --> 07:09.461 IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH CARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON 07:09.463 --> 07:10.162 FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON COMPENSATED CARE WHICH WE'RE 07:10.164 --> 07:12.798 COMPENSATED CARE WHICH WE'RE PAYING FOR ANYWAYS, AND IT'S 07:12.800 --> 07:13.865 PAYING FOR ANYWAYS, AND IT'S HURTING SMALL BUSINESS TO DO 07:13.867 --> 07:14.966 HURTING SMALL BUSINESS TO DO THAT, BUTT IT'S GOING TO GIVE 07:14.968 --> 07:15.867 THAT, BUTT IT'S GOING TO GIVE COVERAGE TO THEM. 07:15.869 --> 07:17.402 COVERAGE TO THEM. AND THEN OVER THE NEXT FEW 07:17.404 --> 07:19.237 AND THEN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, IT'S 300 AND SOME 07:19.239 --> 07:19.571 YEARS, IT'S 300 AND SOME MILLION. 07:19.573 --> 07:23.575 MILLION. IT'S $1.6 BILLION IN '15, $1.7 07:23.577 --> 07:24.509 IT'S $1.6 BILLION IN '15, $1.7 BILLION IN '16. 07:24.511 --> 07:27.913 BILLION IN '16. AND THAT'S HUGE TO THE STATE. 07:27.915 --> 07:30.949 AND THAT'S HUGE TO THE STATE. JUST THE MATH OF IT IS ENORMOUS. 07:30.951 --> 07:31.583 JUST THE MATH OF IT IS ENORMOUS. I SUPPORT IT. 07:31.585 --> 07:32.918 I SUPPORT IT. THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT WE 07:32.920 --> 07:33.852 THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT WE NEED TO DO IT. 07:33.854 --> 07:35.987 NEED TO DO IT. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 07:35.989 --> 07:39.524 IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I KNOW PEOPLE THAT WERE PUSHED 07:39.526 --> 07:40.926 I KNOW PEOPLE THAT WERE PUSHED OFF, VETS THAT CAME BACK FROM 07:40.928 --> 07:42.394 OFF, VETS THAT CAME BACK FROM IRAQ, AND THEY WERE PUSHED OR AM 07:42.396 --> 07:42.661 IRAQ, AND THEY WERE PUSHED OR AM SES. 07:42.663 --> 07:45.263 SES. >> I STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS 07:45.265 --> 07:46.631 >> I STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND I BELIEVE 07:46.633 --> 07:47.966 IN MY DISTRICT, AND I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY IN ARIZONIANS 07:47.968 --> 07:49.935 THE VAST MAJORITY IN ARIZONIANS IN REJECTING OBAMACARE IN THIS 07:49.937 --> 07:51.169 IN REJECTING OBAMACARE IN THIS STATE, THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE 07:51.171 --> 07:55.006 STATE, THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND CREATE A 07:55.008 --> 07:55.307 STATE OF ARIZONA AND CREATE A LASSO. 07:55.309 --> 07:58.176 LASSO. IT WILL PULL A NOOSE AROUND THE 07:58.178 --> 07:59.277 IT WILL PULL A NOOSE AROUND THE TAXPAYERS, AND THOSE WHO FRANKLY 07:59.279 --> 08:00.445 TAXPAYERS, AND THOSE WHO FRANKLY NEED HEALTH CARE THE MOST. 08:00.447 --> 08:01.680 NEED HEALTH CARE THE MOST. >> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON 08:01.682 --> 08:03.648 >> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON THIS. 08:03.650 --> 08:05.083 THIS. WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT 08:05.085 --> 08:06.685 WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN HER STATE OF THE UNION 08:06.687 --> 08:07.853 IN HER STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE 08:07.855 --> 08:09.287 SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND 08:09.289 --> 08:10.255 THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND APPLAUDED HER. 08:10.257 --> 08:14.259 APPLAUDED HER. I WAS SO SURPRISED AND SO 08:14.261 --> 08:16.228 I WAS SO SURPRISED AND SO THRILLED THAT SHE'S DOING THIS. 08:16.230 --> 08:16.962 THRILLED THAT SHE'S DOING THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS 08:16.964 --> 08:18.563 THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY I GOT INTO OFFICE IN THE 08:18.565 --> 08:19.531 WHY I GOT INTO OFFICE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 08:19.533 --> 08:20.832 FIRST PLACE. THE WHOLE REASON I RAN WAS 08:20.834 --> 08:21.967 THE WHOLE REASON I RAN WAS BECAUSE I WAS SEEING THE 08:21.969 --> 08:22.968 BECAUSE I WAS SEEING THE INJUSTICE AND THE FACT THAT 08:22.970 --> 08:25.136 INJUSTICE AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THEIR 08:25.138 --> 08:27.105 PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THEIR MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS 08:27.107 --> 08:27.372 MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS MET. 08:27.374 --> 08:28.206 MET. THEY'RE JUST NOT. 08:28.208 --> 08:31.409 THEY'RE JUST NOT. AND THAT'S INEXCUSABLE. 08:31.411 --> 08:35.046 AND THAT'S INEXCUSABLE. WE HAVE THIS SYSTEM NOW THAT IS 08:35.048 --> 08:37.249 WE HAVE THIS SYSTEM NOW THAT IS OFFERING US $10 TO EVERY $1 08:37.251 --> 08:38.250 OFFERING US $10 TO EVERY $1 ARIZONA SPENDS. 08:38.252 --> 08:39.518 ARIZONA SPENDS. WE'D BE CRAZY NOT TO TAKE 08:39.520 --> 08:43.488 WE'D BE CRAZY NOT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. 08:43.490 --> 08:44.489 ADVANTAGE OF THAT. THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS. 08:44.491 --> 08:46.925 THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS. WE NEED TO BRING THOSE TAX 08:46.927 --> 08:47.726 WE NEED TO BRING THOSE TAX DOLLARS BACK TO ARIZONA. 08:47.728 --> 08:49.427 DOLLARS BACK TO ARIZONA. IF THEY DON'T, THEY'RE GOING TO 08:49.429 --> 08:50.896 IF THEY DON'T, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO MEXICO, CALIFORNIA, TO 08:50.898 --> 08:52.097 GO TO MEXICO, CALIFORNIA, TO ANOTHER STATE, AND WE WILL LOSE 08:52.099 --> 08:52.964 ANOTHER STATE, AND WE WILL LOSE OUT ON THIS. 08:52.966 --> 08:56.268 OUT ON THIS. AND WE WILL HAVE OUR VULNERABLE 08:56.270 --> 08:57.569 AND WE WILL HAVE OUR VULNERABLE CITIZENS, OUR MOST VULNERABLE 08:57.571 --> 08:58.703 CITIZENS, OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE, NOT ABLE TO GET THE 08:58.705 --> 08:59.804 PEOPLE, NOT ABLE TO GET THE HEALTH CARE THAT THEY DESERVE. 08:59.806 --> 09:01.373 HEALTH CARE THAT THEY DESERVE. >> IT'S THE SAME AS IT'S BEEN 09:01.375 --> 09:03.341 >> IT'S THE SAME AS IT'S BEEN SINCE I WAS RUNNING FOR 09:03.343 --> 09:04.109 SINCE I WAS RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION, AND THAT IS I 09:04.111 --> 09:06.211 RE-ELECTION, AND THAT IS I OPPOSE IT. 09:06.213 --> 09:07.579 OPPOSE IT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING 09:07.581 --> 09:09.314 I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING THE BILL THAT SHE'S PLANNING ON 09:09.316 --> 09:11.149 THE BILL THAT SHE'S PLANNING ON INTRODUCING. 09:11.151 --> 09:15.387 INTRODUCING. AND SEEING WHAT DETAILS ARE 09:15.389 --> 09:17.088 AND SEEING WHAT DETAILS ARE THERE AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM 09:17.090 --> 09:17.822 THERE AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. 09:17.824 --> 09:19.491 THERE. >> COULD YOUR READING OF THAT 09:19.493 --> 09:20.725 >> COULD YOUR READING OF THAT BILL CHANGE YOUR MIND? 09:20.727 --> 09:22.193 BILL CHANGE YOUR MIND? >> WELL, I DOUBT IT BECAUSE I 09:22.195 --> 09:24.062 >> WELL, I DOUBT IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE 09:24.064 --> 09:26.464 DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING NEW FROM WHAT WE'VE 09:26.466 --> 09:28.433 ANYTHING NEW FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING IN SPEECHES AND IN 09:28.435 --> 09:28.900 BEEN HEARING IN SPEECHES AND IN DISCUSSION. 09:28.902 --> 09:32.237 DISCUSSION. >> AND DO YOU -- YOU BEAR A DUAL 09:32.239 --> 09:32.537 >> AND DO YOU -- YOU BEAR A DUAL ROLE. 09:32.539 --> 09:33.872 ROLE. NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A VOTE AS A 09:33.874 --> 09:35.674 NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A VOTE AS A SENATOR, BUT YOU SHEPHERD THE 09:35.676 --> 09:38.276 SENATOR, BUT YOU SHEPHERD THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IN THE SENATE. 09:38.278 --> 09:39.911 REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IN THE SENATE. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING GOING ON 09:39.913 --> 09:41.580 WHAT ARE YOU SEEING GOING ON THERE AS FAR AS SUPPORT FOR OR 09:41.582 --> 09:42.981 THERE AS FAR AS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO THE MEDICAID 09:42.983 --> 09:43.481 OPPOSITION TO THE MEDICAID EXPANSION? 09:43.483 --> 09:45.584 EXPANSION? >> I THINK PRIMARILY UNTIL NOW, 09:45.586 --> 09:46.751 >> I THINK PRIMARILY UNTIL NOW, EVERYBODY'S BEEN WANTING TO SEE 09:46.753 --> 09:48.353 EVERYBODY'S BEEN WANTING TO SEE A BILL SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THE 09:48.355 --> 09:49.955 A BILL SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS, MAKE DECISIONS. 09:49.957 --> 09:52.023 LANGUAGE IS, MAKE DECISIONS. I THINK THAT THERE ARE 09:52.025 --> 09:53.291 I THINK THAT THERE ARE INHERENTLY A FEW THAT SUPPORT 09:53.293 --> 09:54.893 INHERENTLY A FEW THAT SUPPORT IT, AND THERE'S INHERENTLY SOME 09:54.895 --> 09:57.062 IT, AND THERE'S INHERENTLY SOME WHO DON'T SUPPORT IT. 09:57.064 --> 09:58.863 WHO DON'T SUPPORT IT. I THINK MOST EVERYBODY WANTS TO 09:58.865 --> 10:01.066 I THINK MOST EVERYBODY WANTS TO GIVE A CHANCE TO READ WHAT'S IN 10:01.068 --> 10:04.135 GIVE A CHANCE TO READ WHAT'S IN THE BILL, AND THEN WE CAN ASK 10:04.137 --> 10:05.437 THE BILL, AND THEN WE CAN ASK EVEN MORE QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW 10:05.439 --> 10:05.804 EVEN MORE QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW IT WORKS. 10:05.806 --> 10:09.975 IT WORKS. >> I'M SUPPORTIVE. 10:09.977 --> 10:12.377 >> I'M SUPPORTIVE. AS LONG AS THERE'S NO STRINGS 10:12.379 --> 10:12.978 AS LONG AS THERE'S NO STRINGS ATTACHED. 10:12.980 --> 10:14.913 ATTACHED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT 10:14.915 --> 10:17.082 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT COMES AS A SINGLE ISSUE EITHER 10:17.084 --> 10:19.017 COMES AS A SINGLE ISSUE EITHER IN THE BUDGET OR A DIFFERENT 10:19.019 --> 10:19.317 IN THE BUDGET OR A DIFFERENT BILL. 10:19.319 --> 10:21.152 BILL. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY STRINGS? 10:21.154 --> 10:22.487 >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY STRINGS? WHAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM 10:22.489 --> 10:23.655 WHAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM SUPPORTING IT IN THE WAY OF 10:23.657 --> 10:24.489 SUPPORTING IT IN THE WAY OF STRINGS ATTACHED? 10:24.491 --> 10:25.924 STRINGS ATTACHED? >> WELL, JUST FROM HAVING BEEN 10:25.926 --> 10:27.359 >> WELL, JUST FROM HAVING BEEN DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL, IN 10:27.361 --> 10:30.428 DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL, IN ORDER TO GET VOTES, SOMETIMES 10:30.430 --> 10:31.763 ORDER TO GET VOTES, SOMETIMES THE GOVERNOR MAY HAVE TO OFFER 10:31.765 --> 10:32.464 THE GOVERNOR MAY HAVE TO OFFER CERTAIN PEOPLE SOMETHING FOR 10:32.466 --> 10:35.834 CERTAIN PEOPLE SOMETHING FOR THEIR VOTE. 10:35.836 --> 10:38.103 THEIR VOTE. AND IF IT'S THINGS THAT I 10:38.105 --> 10:41.039 AND IF IT'S THINGS THAT I WOULDN'T SUPPORT OR OUR CAUCUS 10:41.041 --> 10:43.708 WOULDN'T SUPPORT OR OUR CAUCUS WOULDN'T SUPPORT, SHE MAY LOSE 10:43.710 --> 10:44.009 WOULDN'T SUPPORT, SHE MAY LOSE VOTES. 10:44.011 --> 10:45.944 VOTES. SO SHE HAS TO WALK A TIGHTROPE 10:45.946 --> 10:46.244 SO SHE HAS TO WALK A TIGHTROPE HERE. 10:46.246 --> 10:46.978 HERE. AND IT'S A CHALLENGING POSITION 10:46.980 --> 10:48.546 AND IT'S A CHALLENGING POSITION TO BE IN. 10:48.548 --> 10:50.281 TO BE IN. TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED. 10:50.283 --> 10:52.951 TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED. >> AND YOUR CASE FOR IT BEING A 10:52.953 --> 10:55.687 >> AND YOUR CASE FOR IT BEING A VIABLE OPTION FOR ARIZONA? 10:55.689 --> 10:56.454 VIABLE OPTION FOR ARIZONA? >> TWO REASONS. 10:56.456 --> 10:58.523 >> TWO REASONS. I MEAN, FIRST, IT'S ECONOMIC 10:58.525 --> 10:58.923 I MEAN, FIRST, IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 10:58.925 --> 11:00.759 DEVELOPMENT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE 11:00.761 --> 11:02.560 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE INFLUX OF MONEY, 2 PLUS BILLION 11:02.562 --> 11:03.561 INFLUX OF MONEY, 2 PLUS BILLION DOLLARS COMING INTO THE ECONOMY 11:03.563 --> 11:04.329 DOLLARS COMING INTO THE ECONOMY HERE IN THE STATE. 11:04.331 --> 11:06.264 HERE IN THE STATE. THAT'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF 11:06.266 --> 11:06.564 THAT'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS. 11:06.566 --> 11:07.866 JOBS. AND YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT 11:07.868 --> 11:09.401 AND YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING COVERAGE FOR 300,000 11:09.403 --> 11:10.568 EXPANDING COVERAGE FOR 300,000 PLUS PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE. 11:10.570 --> 11:11.870 PLUS PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE. PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT COVERAGE 11:11.872 --> 11:13.004 PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT COVERAGE WHO THEN ONCE THEY GET THAT 11:13.006 --> 11:13.705 WHO THEN ONCE THEY GET THAT COVERAGE CAN GET BACK TO WORK 11:13.707 --> 11:15.507 COVERAGE CAN GET BACK TO WORK AND BE MORE PRODUCTIVE. 11:15.509 --> 11:16.641 AND BE MORE PRODUCTIVE. >> YOUR STAND ON THE GOVERNOR'S 11:16.643 --> 11:18.710 >> YOUR STAND ON THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID EXPANSION PLAN? 11:18.712 --> 11:20.779 MEDICAID EXPANSION PLAN? >> WELL, CLEARLY THE PEOPLE HAVE 11:20.781 --> 11:21.112 >> WELL, CLEARLY THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. 11:21.114 --> 11:22.814 SPOKEN. AND THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION 11:22.816 --> 11:25.150 AND THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT 11:25.152 --> 11:26.685 MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THEY WANT FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR 11:26.687 --> 11:27.385 THEY WANT FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR HEALTH CARE. 11:27.387 --> 11:29.754 HEALTH CARE. IN FACT, MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR 11:29.756 --> 11:31.256 IN FACT, MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HEALTH CARE AND AGAINST 11:31.258 --> 11:32.724 HEALTH CARE AND AGAINST OBAMACARE THAN VOTED FOR PROP 11:32.726 --> 11:32.991 OBAMACARE THAN VOTED FOR PROP 204. 11:32.993 --> 11:35.160 204. >> THE GOVERNOR CITES TWO VOTES 11:35.162 --> 11:37.729 >> THE GOVERNOR CITES TWO VOTES BY THE VOTERS IN ARIZONA TO 11:37.731 --> 11:39.998 BY THE VOTERS IN ARIZONA TO EXPAND MEDICAID, TO EXPAND 11:40.000 --> 11:41.132 EXPAND MEDICAID, TO EXPAND ACCESS IN THE STATE. 11:41.134 --> 11:43.601 ACCESS IN THE STATE. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO IS THAT? 11:43.603 --> 11:44.436 HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO IS THAT? >> SHE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 11:44.438 --> 11:46.304 >> SHE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT SHE 11:46.306 --> 11:47.372 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT SHE DID NOT TELL YOU IS THAT THAT 11:47.374 --> 11:48.506 DID NOT TELL YOU IS THAT THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE SUED PEOPLE LIKE 11:48.508 --> 11:49.974 GROUP OF PEOPLE SUED PEOPLE LIKE ME IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO 11:49.976 --> 11:50.408 ME IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO CHANGED THAT. 11:50.410 --> 11:52.110 CHANGED THAT. THEY LOST IN COURT. 11:52.112 --> 11:57.348 THEY LOST IN COURT. THE ARIZONA TRIAL COURT, THE 11:57.350 --> 11:58.116 THE ARIZONA TRIAL COURT, THE AA 11:58.118 --> 11:58.783 AA APPELLATE COURT AND SUPREME 11:58.785 --> 12:01.453 APPELLATE COURT AND SUPREME COURT REFUSED TO HEAR THE CASE, 12:01.455 --> 12:02.887 COURT REFUSED TO HEAR THE CASE, WHICH SAID FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR 12:02.889 --> 12:03.354 WHICH SAID FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR HEALTH CARE. 12:03.356 --> 12:05.390 HEALTH CARE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE 12:05.392 --> 12:06.357 IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE APPELLATE COURT OF ARIZONA SAID 12:06.359 --> 12:07.826 APPELLATE COURT OF ARIZONA SAID IT'S UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO 12:07.828 --> 12:09.060 IT'S UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO DETERMINE WHERE TO SPEND THE 12:09.062 --> 12:10.929 DETERMINE WHERE TO SPEND THE PUBLIC'S MONEY, NOT THE COURTS. 12:10.931 --> 12:13.865 PUBLIC'S MONEY, NOT THE COURTS. SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S THE 12:13.867 --> 12:14.933 SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S THE ABSOLUTE WHEELHOUSE OF THE 12:14.935 --> 12:15.667 ABSOLUTE WHEELHOUSE OF THE LEGISLATURE TO APPROPRIATE THE 12:15.669 --> 12:16.835 LEGISLATURE TO APPROPRIATE THE MONIES OF THE STATE. 12:16.837 --> 12:17.569 MONIES OF THE STATE. AND FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE 12:17.571 --> 12:19.137 AND FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. 12:19.139 --> 12:20.238 MONEY. CONGRESSMAN RYAN HAS MADE IT 12:20.240 --> 12:21.539 CONGRESSMAN RYAN HAS MADE IT CLEAR AS OF THIS LAST SUNDAY 12:21.541 --> 12:22.240 CLEAR AS OF THIS LAST SUNDAY THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO 12:22.242 --> 12:23.842 THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO FUND IT IN THE BUDGET. 12:23.844 --> 12:25.844 FUND IT IN THE BUDGET. SO WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A 12:25.846 --> 12:27.278 SO WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR BE TALKING 12:27.280 --> 12:28.947 REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR BE TALKING ABOUT A DEFUNDED DEMOCRAT HEALTH 12:28.949 --> 12:29.314 ABOUT A DEFUNDED DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN? 12:29.316 --> 12:31.316 CARE PLAN? I DON'T GET IT. 12:31.318 --> 12:32.150 I DON'T GET IT. IT'S DEFUNDED. 12:32.152 --> 12:33.485 IT'S DEFUNDED. THE COURTS HAVE SAID WE DON'T 12:33.487 --> 12:34.419 THE COURTS HAVE SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. 12:34.421 --> 12:35.920 HAVE TO DO IT. THE U.S. SUPREME COURT, 12:35.922 --> 12:37.188 THE U.S. SUPREME COURT, MOREOVER, HAS SAID IT'S 12:37.190 --> 12:37.555 MOREOVER, HAS SAID IT'S OPTIONAL. 12:37.557 --> 12:38.790 OPTIONAL. SO FOR THE GOVERNOR TO RUN INTO 12:38.792 --> 12:40.024 SO FOR THE GOVERNOR TO RUN INTO AN OPTION THAT'S GOING TO RUN US 12:40.026 --> 12:41.126 AN OPTION THAT'S GOING TO RUN US INTO DEBT AND BANKRUPT THIS 12:41.128 --> 12:42.527 INTO DEBT AND BANKRUPT THIS STATE AND EVERY STATE IN THE 12:42.529 --> 12:45.497 STATE AND EVERY STATE IN THE UNION THAT DOES IT, GIVEN THAT 12:45.499 --> 12:46.264 UNION THAT DOES IT, GIVEN THAT FLORIDA HAS ALREADY SAID NO, 12:46.266 --> 12:47.632 FLORIDA HAS ALREADY SAID NO, UTAH HAS SAID NO, AND I HOPE 12:47.634 --> 12:49.167 UTAH HAS SAID NO, AND I HOPE MANY MORE STATES SAY NO. 12:49.169 --> 12:50.602 MANY MORE STATES SAY NO. >> AS AN EMERGENCY ROOM 12:50.604 --> 12:53.071 >> AS AN EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN, YOU SAID YOU'VE 12:53.073 --> 12:54.005 PHYSICIAN, YOU SAID YOU'VE EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE DOWN 12:54.007 --> 12:55.640 EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE DOWN SIDE OF THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH 12:55.642 --> 12:56.708 SIDE OF THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T 12:56.710 --> 12:58.476 COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT OTHERWISE. 12:58.478 --> 12:59.844 AFFORD IT OTHERWISE. DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC 12:59.846 --> 13:00.545 DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC EXPERIENCES YOU COULD TELL US 13:00.547 --> 13:01.746 EXPERIENCES YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT IN THAT REGARD? 13:01.748 --> 13:05.416 ABOUT IN THAT REGARD? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. 13:05.418 --> 13:07.018 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. NOT ONLY PRACTICE BUT I RAN A 13:07.020 --> 13:09.587 NOT ONLY PRACTICE BUT I RAN A LARGE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. 13:09.589 --> 13:10.855 LARGE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. WE HAD LOTS OF PATIENTS THAT 13:10.857 --> 13:13.458 WE HAD LOTS OF PATIENTS THAT CAME IN, WHETHER -- I MEAN, AND 13:13.460 --> 13:14.926 CAME IN, WHETHER -- I MEAN, AND YOU CAN USE MENTAL HEALTH 13:14.928 --> 13:15.794 YOU CAN USE MENTAL HEALTH PATIENTS AS AN EXAMPLE. 13:15.796 --> 13:18.630 PATIENTS AS AN EXAMPLE. BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE 13:18.632 --> 13:20.098 BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE LONG-TERM CARE WHERE THEY'RE ON 13:20.100 --> 13:22.000 LONG-TERM CARE WHERE THEY'RE ON THEIR MEDS AND GET SOME 13:22.002 --> 13:23.535 THEIR MEDS AND GET SOME FOLLOW-UP, THEY END UP COMING TO 13:23.537 --> 13:25.370 FOLLOW-UP, THEY END UP COMING TO THE ER OFF THEIR MEDICATIONS. 13:25.372 --> 13:26.805 THE ER OFF THEIR MEDICATIONS. A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE BROUGHT 13:26.807 --> 13:29.140 A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE BROUGHT IN BY POLICE OFFICERS. 13:29.142 --> 13:31.209 IN BY POLICE OFFICERS. AND WE HAVE TO ADMIT THEM TO GET 13:31.211 --> 13:32.877 AND WE HAVE TO ADMIT THEM TO GET THEM BACK UNDER CONTROL, GET 13:32.879 --> 13:34.512 THEM BACK UNDER CONTROL, GET THEM ON THEIR MEDS. 13:34.514 --> 13:35.814 THEM ON THEIR MEDS. IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. 13:35.816 --> 13:36.481 IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. AND THEN WE HAVE TO FIND 13:36.483 --> 13:38.416 AND THEN WE HAVE TO FIND PLACEMENT FOR THEM. 13:38.418 --> 13:40.985 PLACEMENT FOR THEM. AND IF WE DON'T KEEP THEM ON 13:40.987 --> 13:42.420 AND IF WE DON'T KEEP THEM ON THEIR REGULAR MEDICATIONS, WHICH 13:42.422 --> 13:44.823 THEIR REGULAR MEDICATIONS, WHICH IS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, WE 13:44.825 --> 13:47.992 IS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, WE END UP INCURRING THESE LARGE 13:47.994 --> 13:48.293 END UP INCURRING THESE LARGE COSTS. 13:48.295 --> 13:50.628 COSTS. AND THEY'RE ALL COVERED EITHER 13:50.630 --> 13:52.897 AND THEY'RE ALL COVERED EITHER BY THE HOSPITAL AS UNCOMPENSATED 13:52.899 --> 13:54.632 BY THE HOSPITAL AS UNCOMPENSATED CARE AND THE PHYSICIANS AS 13:54.634 --> 13:55.166 CARE AND THE PHYSICIANS AS UNCOMPENSATED CARE. 13:55.168 --> 13:56.835 UNCOMPENSATED CARE. >> SO HOW DO WE PROVIDE HEALTH 13:56.837 --> 13:58.403 >> SO HOW DO WE PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR THOSE WHO DO NEED IT? 13:58.405 --> 13:59.938 CARE FOR THOSE WHO DO NEED IT? >> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO THE 13:59.940 --> 14:01.272 >> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO THE PATH TO PROSPERITY. 14:01.274 --> 14:04.175 PATH TO PROSPERITY. YOU KNOW, ARIZONA, I FULLY 14:04.177 --> 14:06.010 YOU KNOW, ARIZONA, I FULLY EXPECT TO GO THE SAME WAY THAT 14:06.012 --> 14:09.747 EXPECT TO GO THE SAME WAY THAT THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS DONE 14:09.749 --> 14:11.316 THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS DONE IN BUCKING A GOVERNOR WHO 14:11.318 --> 14:12.851 IN BUCKING A GOVERNOR WHO SUPPORTS OBAMACARE, THE 14:12.853 --> 14:14.285 SUPPORTS OBAMACARE, THE LEGISLATURE WILL STAND STRONG 14:14.287 --> 14:16.087 LEGISLATURE WILL STAND STRONG FOR THE TAXPAYER, AND WE WILL 14:16.089 --> 14:17.789 FOR THE TAXPAYER, AND WE WILL PUSH FOR FREE MARKET REFORMS 14:17.791 --> 14:19.090 PUSH FOR FREE MARKET REFORMS WHEREAS IF YOU WANT BIG 14:19.092 --> 14:21.092 WHEREAS IF YOU WANT BIG GOVERNMENT, GO TO CALIFORNIA. 14:21.094 --> 14:24.529 GOVERNMENT, GO TO CALIFORNIA. IF YOU WANT PROSPERITY, COME TO 14:24.531 --> 14:24.863 IF YOU WANT PROSPERITY, COME TO ARIZONA. 14:24.865 --> 14:25.797 ARIZONA. THAT'S THROUGH JOBS. 14:25.799 --> 14:28.466 THAT'S THROUGH JOBS. >> IN SPECIFIC TERMS, HOW DOES 14:28.468 --> 14:30.034 >> IN SPECIFIC TERMS, HOW DOES SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT NOW HAVE 14:30.036 --> 14:31.135 SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT NOW HAVE HEALTH CARE AND IS NOT NOW 14:31.137 --> 14:33.071 HEALTH CARE AND IS NOT NOW COVERED BY ACCESS OR MEDICAID 14:33.073 --> 14:36.774 COVERED BY ACCESS OR MEDICAID GET IT IN ARIZONA THROUGH YOUR 14:36.776 --> 14:37.075 GET IT IN ARIZONA THROUGH YOUR PATH? 14:37.077 --> 14:38.910 PATH? >> OUR PATH SAYS SMALL GROUPS, 14:38.912 --> 14:40.545 >> OUR PATH SAYS SMALL GROUPS, SMALL BUSINESSES CAN GROUP 14:40.547 --> 14:41.913 SMALL BUSINESSES CAN GROUP TOGETHER AND HAVE BETTER 14:41.915 --> 14:43.548 TOGETHER AND HAVE BETTER PURCHASING POWER FOR THEIR OWN 14:43.550 --> 14:44.515 PURCHASING POWER FOR THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE. 14:44.517 --> 14:46.150 HEALTH CARE. WE BELIEVE IN TORT REFORM TO 14:46.152 --> 14:48.086 WE BELIEVE IN TORT REFORM TO LIMIT OUTRAGEOUS LAWSUITS, 14:48.088 --> 14:51.289 LIMIT OUTRAGEOUS LAWSUITS, LOWERING THE COST OF HEALTH CARE 14:51.291 --> 14:52.724 LOWERING THE COST OF HEALTH CARE AS WELL AS HEALTH SAVINGS 14:52.726 --> 14:54.726 AS WELL AS HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO 14:54.728 --> 14:56.060 ACCOUNTS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO UNFORTUNATELY MIGHT LOSE THEIR 14:56.062 --> 14:57.128 UNFORTUNATELY MIGHT LOSE THEIR JOB ARE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR 14:57.130 --> 15:00.064 JOB ARE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR HEALTH CARE ALONG WITH THEM. 15:00.066 --> 15:01.232 HEALTH CARE ALONG WITH THEM. THIS FREE MARKET PATH IS A FAR 15:01.234 --> 15:02.967 THIS FREE MARKET PATH IS A FAR BETTER LONG-TERM SOLUTION. 15:02.969 --> 15:06.004 BETTER LONG-TERM SOLUTION. >> BREWER'S BATTLE WILL BE 15:06.006 --> 15:07.305 >> BREWER'S BATTLE WILL BE DOOR-TO-DOOR COMBAT IN THE HALLS 15:07.307 --> 15:08.840 DOOR-TO-DOOR COMBAT IN THE HALLS OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. 15:08.842 --> 15:09.841 OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. WE ASKED LEGISLATORS WHAT THEY 15:09.843 --> 15:11.809 WE ASKED LEGISLATORS WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THE CHANCES. 15:11.811 --> 15:12.944 THOUGHT OF THE CHANCES. GOVERNOR BREWER IS REALLY 15:12.946 --> 15:14.045 GOVERNOR BREWER IS REALLY CRANKING UP THE PRESSURE HERE. 15:14.047 --> 15:16.247 CRANKING UP THE PRESSURE HERE. SHE'S HAD A NUMBER OF RALLIES 15:16.249 --> 15:17.148 SHE'S HAD A NUMBER OF RALLIES INCLUDING ONE HERE THIS WEEK ON 15:17.150 --> 15:19.951 INCLUDING ONE HERE THIS WEEK ON THE CAPITOL LAWN. 15:19.953 --> 15:20.585 THE CAPITOL LAWN. WILL THAT BE RESISTED BY 15:20.587 --> 15:21.686 WILL THAT BE RESISTED BY REPUBLICANS? 15:21.688 --> 15:24.956 REPUBLICANS? >> IT ALREADY HAS BEEN. 15:24.958 --> 15:27.992 >> IT ALREADY HAS BEEN. I BELIEVE MOST, IF NOT EVERY, 15:27.994 --> 15:29.594 I BELIEVE MOST, IF NOT EVERY, COUNTY'S REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS 15:29.596 --> 15:32.096 COUNTY'S REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS COME OUT AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE 15:32.098 --> 15:32.463 COME OUT AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE EXPANSION. 15:32.465 --> 15:34.032 EXPANSION. THEY'RE AGAINST OBAMACARE. 15:34.034 --> 15:35.600 THEY'RE AGAINST OBAMACARE. AND FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT BUYING 15:35.602 --> 15:36.968 AND FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT BUYING WHAT SHE'S SELLING. 15:36.970 --> 15:38.670 WHAT SHE'S SELLING. SHE IS SELLING EMPTY PROMISES 15:38.672 --> 15:40.438 SHE IS SELLING EMPTY PROMISES FROM WASHINGTON, THOSE WHO ARE 15:40.440 --> 15:42.907 FROM WASHINGTON, THOSE WHO ARE SUPPORTING OBAMACARE ARE 15:42.909 --> 15:44.442 SUPPORTING OBAMACARE ARE SUPPORTING FURTHERING BUDGET 15:44.444 --> 15:46.311 SUPPORTING FURTHERING BUDGET DEFICITS, PUTTING ARIZONA ON THE 15:46.313 --> 15:48.079 DEFICITS, PUTTING ARIZONA ON THE SAME PATH OF FISCAL CLIFF THAT 15:48.081 --> 15:50.481 SAME PATH OF FISCAL CLIFF THAT THE COUNTRY HAS AS A WHOLE. 15:50.483 --> 15:52.050 THE COUNTRY HAS AS A WHOLE. WE LOOK TOWARD REAL SOLUTIONS 15:52.052 --> 15:53.217 WE LOOK TOWARD REAL SOLUTIONS AND LONG-TERM PROSPERITY TO 15:53.219 --> 15:54.786 AND LONG-TERM PROSPERITY TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. 15:54.788 --> 15:56.087 SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. >> AND DO YOU THINK IT HAS A 15:56.089 --> 15:57.488 >> AND DO YOU THINK IT HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF PASSAGE IN THE 15:57.490 --> 15:59.490 GOOD CHANCE OF PASSAGE IN THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE? 15:59.492 --> 16:00.925 SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE? >> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE 16:00.927 --> 16:02.460 >> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING THAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE 16:02.462 --> 16:03.428 SAYING THAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE STORY YET. 16:03.430 --> 16:05.096 THE WHOLE STORY YET. AND I THINK ONCE THEY GET THE 16:05.098 --> 16:06.030 AND I THINK ONCE THEY GET THE WHOLE STORY, WE'LL WIN SOME OF 16:06.032 --> 16:06.597 WHOLE STORY, WE'LL WIN SOME OF THEM OVER. 16:06.599 --> 16:08.099 THEM OVER. I THINK WE CAN GET IT PASSED. 16:08.101 --> 16:09.767 I THINK WE CAN GET IT PASSED. I KNOW WE CAN GET IT PASSED. 16:09.769 --> 16:11.970 I KNOW WE CAN GET IT PASSED. THE GOVERNOR HAS A VETO PIN, AND 16:11.972 --> 16:13.604 THE GOVERNOR HAS A VETO PIN, AND SHE CAN SIT UP THERE ALL SUMMER 16:13.606 --> 16:14.739 SHE CAN SIT UP THERE ALL SUMMER IF SHE WANTS UNTIL SHE GETS WHAT 16:14.741 --> 16:16.407 IF SHE WANTS UNTIL SHE GETS WHAT SHE WANTS. 16:16.409 --> 16:17.542 SHE WANTS. THE RIGHT THING WOULD BE TO GET 16:17.544 --> 16:19.077 THE RIGHT THING WOULD BE TO GET ALL THE FACTS, LET EVERYBODY 16:19.079 --> 16:20.645 ALL THE FACTS, LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE FACTS, AND THEN MOVE 16:20.647 --> 16:21.980 KNOW THE FACTS, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, AND I THINK WE 16:21.982 --> 16:22.613 FORWARD WITH IT, AND I THINK WE CAN DO IT. 16:22.615 --> 16:23.481 CAN DO IT. >> I WISH I HAD THE CRYSTAL 16:23.483 --> 16:26.284 >> I WISH I HAD THE CRYSTAL BALL. 16:26.286 --> 16:27.952 BALL. I HAVE MY FINGERS CROSSED. 16:27.954 --> 16:29.754 I HAVE MY FINGERS CROSSED. I HAVE MY EYES CROSSED, MY TOES 16:29.756 --> 16:30.355 I HAVE MY EYES CROSSED, MY TOES ARE CROSSED ON THIS ONE. 16:30.357 --> 16:32.890 ARE CROSSED ON THIS ONE. I REALLY HOPE SO. 16:32.892 --> 16:33.958 I REALLY HOPE SO. I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD AS A 16:33.960 --> 16:35.760 I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD AS A STATE TO NOT PASS IT. 16:35.762 --> 16:38.029 STATE TO NOT PASS IT. IT'S CRITICAL. 16:38.031 --> 16:39.197 IT'S CRITICAL. IT TRULY IS CRITICAL. 16:39.199 --> 16:40.631 IT TRULY IS CRITICAL. >> THIS IS MY THIRD TERM DOWN AT 16:40.633 --> 16:41.499 >> THIS IS MY THIRD TERM DOWN AT THE CAPITOL NOW. 16:41.501 --> 16:43.167 THE CAPITOL NOW. AND WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN, I 16:43.169 --> 16:44.902 AND WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN, I HAD BEEN ON A SCHOOL BOARD AND 16:44.904 --> 16:47.138 HAD BEEN ON A SCHOOL BOARD AND COME DOWN HERE LOBBYING. 16:47.140 --> 16:48.706 COME DOWN HERE LOBBYING. BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS YOU CAN 16:48.708 --> 16:49.774 BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS YOU CAN NEVER PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO 16:49.776 --> 16:52.143 NEVER PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL. 16:52.145 --> 16:52.877 HAPPEN DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL. MY HOPE IS THAT WE MAKE A 16:52.879 --> 16:56.080 MY HOPE IS THAT WE MAKE A SENSIBLE DECISION. 16:56.082 --> 16:57.382 SENSIBLE DECISION. THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR 16:57.384 --> 16:58.416 THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR STATE IF WE DO EXPAND ACCESS TO 16:58.418 --> 17:00.251 STATE IF WE DO EXPAND ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. 17:00.253 --> 17:01.352 HEALTH CARE. >> HANDICAP THE RESULTS HERE. 17:01.354 --> 17:03.354 >> HANDICAP THE RESULTS HERE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? 17:03.356 --> 17:04.155 WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> IT'S STILL TOUGH. 17:04.157 --> 17:05.990 >> IT'S STILL TOUGH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GIVE 17:05.992 --> 17:07.358 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GIVE GOVERNOR BREWER CREDIT FOR 17:07.360 --> 17:08.826 GOVERNOR BREWER CREDIT FOR COMING OUT EARLY ON IN SESSION 17:08.828 --> 17:10.395 COMING OUT EARLY ON IN SESSION FROM DAY ONE, ACTUALLY, SAYING 17:10.397 --> 17:12.296 FROM DAY ONE, ACTUALLY, SAYING WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT SHE 17:12.298 --> 17:13.398 WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY SUPPORT 17:13.400 --> 17:15.066 DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY SUPPORT YET FROM HER GOP CAUCUS IN 17:15.068 --> 17:16.567 YET FROM HER GOP CAUCUS IN EITHER THE SENATE OR THE HOUSE. 17:16.569 --> 17:18.669 EITHER THE SENATE OR THE HOUSE. SO I'D SAY IT'S STILL TENUOUS. 17:18.671 --> 17:20.138 SO I'D SAY IT'S STILL TENUOUS. IT'S PROBABLY 50/50. 17:20.140 --> 17:21.339 IT'S PROBABLY 50/50. IT COULD GO EITHER WAY AT THIS 17:21.341 --> 17:21.639 IT COULD GO EITHER WAY AT THIS POINT. 17:21.641 --> 17:23.341 POINT. >> WELL, THE PEOPLE DESERVE A 17:23.343 --> 17:25.410 >> WELL, THE PEOPLE DESERVE A THING CALLED PROP 108. 17:25.412 --> 17:28.913 THING CALLED PROP 108. WHICH IF THE FEES ON THE TAXES 17:28.915 --> 17:30.982 WHICH IF THE FEES ON THE TAXES OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE 17:30.984 --> 17:32.183 OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGED, THE PEOPLE REQUIRE A 17:32.185 --> 17:33.618 CHANGED, THE PEOPLE REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE 17:33.620 --> 17:35.820 SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE LEGISLATURE, THAT'S 40 AND 20. 17:35.822 --> 17:37.388 LEGISLATURE, THAT'S 40 AND 20. THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO SLIP 17:37.390 --> 17:39.057 THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO SLIP SLEW A LOOPHOLE AND PUT THIS BED 17:39.059 --> 17:40.358 SLEW A LOOPHOLE AND PUT THIS BED TAX IN PLACE PROBABLY WITHOUT A 17:40.360 --> 17:41.559 TAX IN PLACE PROBABLY WITHOUT A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. 17:41.561 --> 17:42.927 SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. ONCE AGAIN, WE STILL NEED TO SEE 17:42.929 --> 17:43.461 ONCE AGAIN, WE STILL NEED TO SEE THE BILL. 17:43.463 --> 17:45.129 THE BILL. IT'S STILL NOT IN MY HANDS YET. 17:45.131 --> 17:47.398 IT'S STILL NOT IN MY HANDS YET. >> SHE'S CALLING IT A FEE, NOT A 17:47.400 --> 17:47.665 >> SHE'S CALLING IT A FEE, NOT A TAX. 17:47.667 --> 17:49.734 TAX. WOULD THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE? 17:49.736 --> 17:50.435 WOULD THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE? >> NO. 17:50.437 --> 17:52.070 >> NO. IN FACT, PROP 108 SAYS ANY 17:52.072 --> 17:53.638 IN FACT, PROP 108 SAYS ANY INCREASE IN REVENUE, IT REALLY 17:53.640 --> 17:54.105 INCREASE IN REVENUE, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. 17:54.107 --> 17:56.107 DOESN'T MATTER. >> YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY 17:56.109 --> 17:56.808 >> YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY PRETEND TO BE CLAIRVOYANT ON 17:56.810 --> 17:57.809 PRETEND TO BE CLAIRVOYANT ON THAT. 17:57.811 --> 17:59.544 THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE STILL EARLY ENOUGH 17:59.546 --> 18:02.580 I MEAN, WE'RE STILL EARLY ENOUGH IN THE PROCESS ON THIS SPECIFIC 18:02.582 --> 18:05.016 IN THE PROCESS ON THIS SPECIFIC BILL, AND I STILL THINK THERE'S 18:05.018 --> 18:06.284 BILL, AND I STILL THINK THERE'S TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A 18:06.286 --> 18:07.185 TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF PUSH 18:07.187 --> 18:08.886 LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF PUSH AND PULL ON THIS. 18:08.888 --> 18:10.488 AND PULL ON THIS. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THIS 18:10.490 --> 18:15.626 I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THIS BILL COMES OUT AS IT'S BEEN -- 18:15.628 --> 18:16.694 BILL COMES OUT AS IT'S BEEN -- IT WASN'T INTRODUCED, BUT IT WAS 18:16.696 --> 18:19.330 IT WASN'T INTRODUCED, BUT IT WAS PRESENTED TODAY TO THE PUBLIC. 18:19.332 --> 18:20.131 PRESENTED TODAY TO THE PUBLIC. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE 18:20.133 --> 18:21.699 I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME AMENDMENTS 18:21.701 --> 18:24.535 GOING TO SEE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT GO ON THIS THING WHICH 18:24.537 --> 18:25.236 THAT GO ON THIS THING WHICH MIGHT BRING SOME ON AND PUSH 18:25.238 --> 18:26.804 MIGHT BRING SOME ON AND PUSH SOME OFF. 18:26.806 --> 18:28.639 SOME OFF. IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO 18:28.641 --> 18:30.374 IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT AND HANDICAP THAT RIGHT 18:30.376 --> 18:30.641 PREDICT AND HANDICAP THAT RIGHT NOW. 18:30.643 --> 18:32.110 NOW. >> WE'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OF YOUR 18:32.112 --> 18:33.744 >> WE'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE. 18:33.746 --> 18:34.445 COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE. AND THEY ARE DEAD SET AGAINST 18:34.447 --> 18:35.847 AND THEY ARE DEAD SET AGAINST THIS. 18:35.849 --> 18:36.514 THIS. HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GET IT 18:36.516 --> 18:38.082 HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GET IT THROUGH? 18:38.084 --> 18:39.917 THROUGH? >> WELL, I THINK THAT THERE ARE 18:39.919 --> 18:41.586 >> WELL, I THINK THAT THERE ARE 90 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE, 18:41.588 --> 18:42.587 90 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE, IN THE HOUSE SPECIFICALLY WE 18:42.589 --> 18:44.088 IN THE HOUSE SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE 60. 18:44.090 --> 18:45.189 HAVE 60. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON 18:45.191 --> 18:46.457 AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, MEETING WITH 18:46.459 --> 18:47.725 RIGHT NOW, MEETING WITH DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES. 18:47.727 --> 18:49.427 DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES. AS WITH ANY BILL, THERE WILL BE 18:49.429 --> 18:50.461 AS WITH ANY BILL, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR IT AND 18:50.463 --> 18:51.662 PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR IT AND PEOPLE THAT VOTE AGAINST IT. 18:51.664 --> 18:53.197 PEOPLE THAT VOTE AGAINST IT. SO AS WE INTRODUCE THE LANGUAGE 18:53.199 --> 18:55.099 SO AS WE INTRODUCE THE LANGUAGE AND GO THROUGH A SERIES OF 18:55.101 --> 18:56.267 AND GO THROUGH A SERIES OF EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIONAL 18:56.269 --> 18:57.935 EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIONAL HEARINGS AND MEETINGS, I THINK 18:57.937 --> 18:59.537 HEARINGS AND MEETINGS, I THINK THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL ALSO 18:59.539 --> 19:01.239 THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL ALSO SEE -- DRAW THE SAME CONCLUSION. 19:01.241 --> 19:03.007 SEE -- DRAW THE SAME CONCLUSION. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, 19:03.009 --> 19:04.575 I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE GOVERNOR HAS A GREAT TRACK 19:04.577 --> 19:04.909 THE GOVERNOR HAS A GREAT TRACK RECORD. 19:04.911 --> 19:06.577 RECORD. WITH HAD SHE PUTS AN IDEA 19:06.579 --> 19:07.612 WITH HAD SHE PUTS AN IDEA FORWARD, WE ABSOLUTELY GET IT 19:07.614 --> 19:07.912 FORWARD, WE ABSOLUTELY GET IT DONE. 19:07.914 --> 19:09.080 DONE. WILL IT BE EASY? 19:09.082 --> 19:09.347 WILL IT BE EASY? NO. 19:09.349 --> 19:10.381 NO. BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT I THINK 19:10.383 --> 19:11.749 BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'LL GET DONE AT THE END OF THE 19:11.751 --> 19:12.083 WE'LL GET DONE AT THE END OF THE DAY? 19:12.085 --> 19:12.750 DAY? I BELIEVE SO. 19:12.752 --> 19:13.584 I BELIEVE SO. AND I HOPE SO FOR THE CITIZENS 19:13.586 --> 19:15.586 AND I HOPE SO FOR THE CITIZENS OF ARIZONA. 19:15.588 --> 19:17.655 OF ARIZONA. >> AS WE'VE NOTED, THE GOVERNOR 19:17.657 --> 19:18.556 >> AS WE'VE NOTED, THE GOVERNOR CAUGHT MANY BY SURPRISE IN 19:18.558 --> 19:20.858 CAUGHT MANY BY SURPRISE IN CALLING FOR MEDICAID EXPANSION. 19:20.860 --> 19:21.559 CALLING FOR MEDICAID EXPANSION. WHAT'S BEHIND THAT AND WHAT'S 19:21.561 --> 19:23.161 WHAT'S BEHIND THAT AND WHAT'S HER MOTIVATION? 19:23.163 --> 19:25.129 HER MOTIVATION? TO GET A SENSE OF IT, I SPOKE 19:25.131 --> 19:27.732 TO GET A SENSE OF IT, I SPOKE WITH FERNANDO SANTOS, PHOENIX 19:27.734 --> 19:29.634 WITH FERNANDO SANTOS, PHOENIX BUREAU CHIEF OF "THE NEW YORK 19:29.636 --> 19:29.967 BUREAU CHIEF OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES." 19:29.969 --> 19:32.036 TIMES." SHE HAS REPORTED AND WRITTEN 19:32.038 --> 19:33.004 SHE HAS REPORTED AND WRITTEN EXTENSIVELY ABOUT BREWER AND 19:33.006 --> 19:34.071 EXTENSIVELY ABOUT BREWER AND STATE POLITICS INCLUDING A PIECE 19:34.073 --> 19:41.579 STATE POLITICS INCLUDING A PIECE ON MEDICAID JUST THIS WEEK. 19:41.581 --> 19:42.747 ON MEDICAID JUST THIS WEEK. FERNANDA, THANKS FOR SPEAKING 19:42.749 --> 19:43.414 FERNANDA, THANKS FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. 19:43.416 --> 19:44.081 WITH ME. >> MY PLEASURE. 19:44.083 --> 19:45.650 >> MY PLEASURE. >> IT'S NOT POLITICS AS USUAL IN 19:45.652 --> 19:47.318 >> IT'S NOT POLITICS AS USUAL IN ARIZONA RIGHT NOW WITH GOVERNOR 19:47.320 --> 19:49.754 ARIZONA RIGHT NOW WITH GOVERNOR BREWER PUSHING FOR HER MEDICAID 19:49.756 --> 19:50.121 BREWER PUSHING FOR HER MEDICAID EXPANSION. 19:50.123 --> 19:50.755 EXPANSION. WHAT'S CAUSING THAT SHIFT? 19:50.757 --> 19:51.756 WHAT'S CAUSING THAT SHIFT? >> WELL, THE INTERESTING THING 19:51.758 --> 19:53.457 >> WELL, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT GOVERNOR BREWER IS THAT 19:53.459 --> 19:54.292 ABOUT GOVERNOR BREWER IS THAT SHE'S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE 19:54.294 --> 19:56.260 SHE'S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE POLITICIAN. 19:56.262 --> 19:58.763 POLITICIAN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE YEARS SHE 19:58.765 --> 20:00.765 IF YOU LOOK AT THE YEARS SHE SPENT IN STATE GOVERNMENT HERE, 20:00.767 --> 20:05.102 SPENT IN STATE GOVERNMENT HERE, LOOK BACK TO 2009, EARLY 2010, 20:05.104 --> 20:06.337 LOOK BACK TO 2009, EARLY 2010, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SHE PUSHED 20:06.339 --> 20:08.739 YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SHE PUSHED VERY HARD FOR THE TEMPORARY 20:08.741 --> 20:11.042 VERY HARD FOR THE TEMPORARY SALES TAX INCREASE HERE IN 20:11.044 --> 20:12.510 SALES TAX INCREASE HERE IN ARIZONA AS A WAY TO OFFSET SOME 20:12.512 --> 20:14.278 ARIZONA AS A WAY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE DEEP CUTS THEY HAD TO 20:14.280 --> 20:15.146 OF THE DEEP CUTS THEY HAD TO MAKE ON THE BUDGET. 20:15.148 --> 20:16.581 MAKE ON THE BUDGET. AND THAT WAS A VERY UNPOPULAR 20:16.583 --> 20:18.382 AND THAT WAS A VERY UNPOPULAR MEASURE WITH REPUBLICANS. 20:18.384 --> 20:20.818 MEASURE WITH REPUBLICANS. SHE NONETHELESS KEPT GOING, TOOK 20:20.820 --> 20:22.486 SHE NONETHELESS KEPT GOING, TOOK THE ISSUE TO THE VOTERS. 20:22.488 --> 20:24.021 THE ISSUE TO THE VOTERS. THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS SALES 20:24.023 --> 20:25.590 THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS SALES TAX INCREASE, AND WE HAVE IT IN 20:25.592 --> 20:28.025 TAX INCREASE, AND WE HAVE IT IN PLACE UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR. 20:28.027 --> 20:29.894 PLACE UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR. AND SLEAHE'S DOING IT AGAIN RIG 20:29.896 --> 20:30.161 AND SLEAHE'S DOING IT AGAIN RIG NOW. 20:30.163 --> 20:31.762 NOW. SHE IS PUSHING A MEASURE, THE 20:31.764 --> 20:33.030 SHE IS PUSHING A MEASURE, THE EXPANSION OF MEDICAID, WHICH IS 20:33.032 --> 20:35.233 EXPANSION OF MEDICAID, WHICH IS VERY POPULAR WITH DEMOCRATS, 20:35.235 --> 20:35.800 VERY POPULAR WITH DEMOCRATS, HIGHLY UNPOPULAR WITH 20:35.802 --> 20:38.869 HIGHLY UNPOPULAR WITH REPUBLICANS. 20:38.871 --> 20:39.904 REPUBLICANS. AND IF SHE HAS GONE ALL OUT, 20:39.906 --> 20:41.239 AND IF SHE HAS GONE ALL OUT, SHE'S TRAVELED THE STATE. 20:41.241 --> 20:42.206 SHE'S TRAVELED THE STATE. SHE'S HELD EVENTS, RIGHT OUTSIDE 20:42.208 --> 20:44.442 SHE'S HELD EVENTS, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE CAPITOL. 20:44.444 --> 20:45.910 OF THE CAPITOL. AND SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET 20:45.912 --> 20:46.777 AND SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET THIS PASSED. 20:46.779 --> 20:50.548 THIS PASSED. SO IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A 20:50.550 --> 20:51.916 SO IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A TYPICAL REPUBLICAN REACTION, BUT 20:51.918 --> 20:53.517 TYPICAL REPUBLICAN REACTION, BUT IT'S A REPUBLICAN REACTION BASED 20:53.519 --> 20:55.319 IT'S A REPUBLICAN REACTION BASED ON THE FINANCIAL REALITIES OF 20:55.321 --> 20:56.520 ON THE FINANCIAL REALITIES OF THE STATE AS SHE PUT IT. 20:56.522 --> 20:59.056 THE STATE AS SHE PUT IT. >> SO THE FINANCIAL REALITIES, 20:59.058 --> 21:00.524 >> SO THE FINANCIAL REALITIES, ARE THEY THE MOTIVATION FOR HER? 21:00.526 --> 21:02.460 ARE THEY THE MOTIVATION FOR HER? >> WELL, THAT'S THE MAIN 21:02.462 --> 21:03.861 >> WELL, THAT'S THE MAIN MOTIVATION NOT ONLY FOR HER BUT 21:03.863 --> 21:05.062 MOTIVATION NOT ONLY FOR HER BUT FOR OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS 21:05.064 --> 21:06.297 FOR OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SAME 21:06.299 --> 21:06.764 WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SAME POSITION. 21:06.766 --> 21:09.500 POSITION. ONE OF THEM BEING THE NEIGHBOR 21:09.502 --> 21:13.871 ONE OF THEM BEING THE NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST, NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR 21:13.873 --> 21:15.406 TO THE EAST, NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR SUSANA MARTINEZ, GOVERNOR DUVALL 21:15.408 --> 21:17.441 SUSANA MARTINEZ, GOVERNOR DUVALL OF NEVADA, OTHER GOVERNORS IN 21:17.443 --> 21:18.542 OF NEVADA, OTHER GOVERNORS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE. 21:18.544 --> 21:20.711 DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE. THAT'S THE MAIN THING THEY 21:20.713 --> 21:21.545 THAT'S THE MAIN THING THEY MENTIONED HERE. 21:21.547 --> 21:22.813 MENTIONED HERE. BUT THE INTERESTING THING, IF 21:22.815 --> 21:24.782 BUT THE INTERESTING THING, IF YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF THE NATION, 21:24.784 --> 21:27.251 YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF THE NATION, AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE REPUBLICAN 21:27.253 --> 21:28.719 AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS STAND ON MEDICAID 21:28.721 --> 21:30.021 GOVERNORS STAND ON MEDICAID EXPANSION, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN 21:30.023 --> 21:32.189 EXPANSION, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE SOUTH, THERE IS OVERWHELMING 21:32.191 --> 21:33.391 THE SOUTH, THERE IS OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION TO THE EXPANSION 21:33.393 --> 21:35.126 OPPOSITION TO THE EXPANSION WHEREAS IN THE SOUTHWEST, THE 21:35.128 --> 21:35.960 WHEREAS IN THE SOUTHWEST, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ARE ALL IN 21:35.962 --> 21:37.928 REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT. 21:37.930 --> 21:40.131 FAVOR OF IT. YOU KNOW, ONE CANNOT OVERLOOK 21:40.133 --> 21:41.832 YOU KNOW, ONE CANNOT OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT IN THE SOUTHWEST, 21:41.834 --> 21:43.868 THE FACT THAT IN THE SOUTHWEST, THERE HAS BEEN A PROFOUND -- 21:43.870 --> 21:45.503 THERE HAS BEEN A PROFOUND -- THERE IS A PROFOUND 21:45.505 --> 21:47.238 THERE IS A PROFOUND TRANSFORMATION OCCURRING OF THE 21:47.240 --> 21:48.039 TRANSFORMATION OCCURRING OF THE ELECTORATE HERE WITH THE 21:48.041 --> 21:50.207 ELECTORATE HERE WITH THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LATINO 21:50.209 --> 21:51.742 INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LATINO VOTERS WHO TEND TO BE 21:51.744 --> 21:54.111 VOTERS WHO TEND TO BE DEMOCRAT -- OR ACTUALLY 21:54.113 --> 21:56.781 DEMOCRAT -- OR ACTUALLY OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS. 21:56.783 --> 21:59.583 OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS. ONE CANNOT FORGET THAT IF ANYONE 21:59.585 --> 22:01.118 ONE CANNOT FORGET THAT IF ANYONE HAS HIGHER ASPIRATIONS, 22:01.120 --> 22:03.454 HAS HIGHER ASPIRATIONS, POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS HERE, HE 22:03.456 --> 22:04.588 POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS HERE, HE OR SHE CANNOT OVERLOOK THAT 22:04.590 --> 22:06.090 OR SHE CANNOT OVERLOOK THAT PORTION OF THE ELECTORATE WHICH 22:06.092 --> 22:07.892 PORTION OF THE ELECTORATE WHICH HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE THE 22:07.894 --> 22:09.327 HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE THE SIZE OF ESPECIALLY IN THE 22:09.329 --> 22:10.561 SIZE OF ESPECIALLY IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IN NEVADA 22:10.563 --> 22:11.395 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IN NEVADA MORE SPECIFICALLY, IN HELPING 22:11.397 --> 22:13.764 MORE SPECIFICALLY, IN HELPING ELECT PRESIDENT OBAMA. 22:13.766 --> 22:16.200 ELECT PRESIDENT OBAMA. >> IS GOVERNOR BREWER SEEKING 22:16.202 --> 22:18.803 >> IS GOVERNOR BREWER SEEKING LEGACY HERE, OR DOES SHE HAVE 22:18.805 --> 22:19.937 LEGACY HERE, OR DOES SHE HAVE SOME HIGHER MOTIVATION FOR 22:19.939 --> 22:22.306 SOME HIGHER MOTIVATION FOR TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED? 22:22.308 --> 22:23.874 TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO 22:23.876 --> 22:25.576 >> WELL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING HER VERY 22:25.578 --> 22:28.212 HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING HER VERY CLOSELY WILL SAY THAT ONE OF HER 22:28.214 --> 22:30.081 CLOSELY WILL SAY THAT ONE OF HER INTERESTS IS TO TAKE THE 22:30.083 --> 22:32.049 INTERESTS IS TO TAKE THE ATTENTION AWAY FROM IMMIGRATION, 22:32.051 --> 22:32.350 ATTENTION AWAY FROM IMMIGRATION, RIGHT? 22:32.352 --> 22:33.584 RIGHT? SHE HAS BEEN KNOWN ACROSS THE 22:33.586 --> 22:36.287 SHE HAS BEEN KNOWN ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS THE GOVERNOR WHO 22:36.289 --> 22:38.989 COUNTRY AS THE GOVERNOR WHO PASSED THE FIRST AND ONE OF THE 22:38.991 --> 22:40.191 PASSED THE FIRST AND ONE OF THE MOST RESTRICTIVE IMMIGRATION 22:40.193 --> 22:41.525 MOST RESTRICTIVE IMMIGRATION LAWS IN THE COUNTRY. 22:41.527 --> 22:43.527 LAWS IN THE COUNTRY. SHE HAS STOOD VERY STEADFASTLY 22:43.529 --> 22:44.895 SHE HAS STOOD VERY STEADFASTLY ON HER POSITION ABOUT SECURING 22:44.897 --> 22:47.164 ON HER POSITION ABOUT SECURING THE BORDERS. 22:47.166 --> 22:52.203 THE BORDERS. AND SHE HAS NOT WAVERED FROM IT 22:52.205 --> 22:52.903 AND SHE HAS NOT WAVERED FROM IT AT ANY MOMENT. 22:52.905 --> 22:54.372 AT ANY MOMENT. THAT'S WHAT SHE'S KNOWN FOR, 22:54.374 --> 22:54.872 THAT'S WHAT SHE'S KNOWN FOR, REMEMBERED FOR. 22:54.874 --> 22:56.407 REMEMBERED FOR. MAYBE NOT SO MUCH IN ARIZONA BUT 22:56.409 --> 22:57.141 MAYBE NOT SO MUCH IN ARIZONA BUT CERTAINLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE 22:57.143 --> 22:59.710 CERTAINLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. 22:59.712 --> 23:01.312 COUNTRY. SO THERE ISN'T A MOTIVATION TO 23:01.314 --> 23:02.546 SO THERE ISN'T A MOTIVATION TO KIND OF BE KNOWN FOR SOMETHING 23:02.548 --> 23:04.648 KIND OF BE KNOWN FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH IS NOT A 23:04.650 --> 23:06.884 OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH IS NOT A VERY POSITIVE LEGACY. 23:06.886 --> 23:08.686 VERY POSITIVE LEGACY. IF ONE IS TO LOOK AT NATIONALLY 23:08.688 --> 23:10.388 IF ONE IS TO LOOK AT NATIONALLY HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE HER. 23:10.390 --> 23:13.524 HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE HER. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SHE IS A 23:13.526 --> 23:14.658 BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SHE IS A PRAGMATIC, AND SHE'S SURROUNDED 23:14.660 --> 23:15.926 PRAGMATIC, AND SHE'S SURROUNDED BY VERY PRAGMATIC PEOPLE. 23:15.928 --> 23:19.063 BY VERY PRAGMATIC PEOPLE. AND A LOT OF HER DECISIONS ARE 23:19.065 --> 23:21.165 AND A LOT OF HER DECISIONS ARE MADE NOT ON HER OWN, BUT SHE 23:21.167 --> 23:23.567 MADE NOT ON HER OWN, BUT SHE MAKES THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH 23:23.569 --> 23:26.404 MAKES THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH ADVISERS WHO HAVE TAKEN A VERY 23:26.406 --> 23:27.905 ADVISERS WHO HAVE TAKEN A VERY PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO THE VERY 23:27.907 --> 23:29.940 PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO THE VERY SORT OF DOLLARS AND CENTS 23:29.942 --> 23:31.142 SORT OF DOLLARS AND CENTS APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE. 23:31.144 --> 23:32.676 APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE. IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE STATE 23:32.678 --> 23:33.077 IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE STATE FINANCIALLY. 23:33.079 --> 23:35.112 FINANCIALLY. IT IS A 90% REIMBURSEMENT FROM 23:35.114 --> 23:36.013 IT IS A 90% REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST 23:36.015 --> 23:37.114 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST IN THE BEGINNING. 23:37.116 --> 23:39.550 IN THE BEGINNING. SHE HAS BUILT IN A CIRCUIT 23:39.552 --> 23:40.551 SHE HAS BUILT IN A CIRCUIT BREAKER AS SHE CALLS IT, WHICH 23:40.553 --> 23:43.854 BREAKER AS SHE CALLS IT, WHICH IS THAT IF THE REIMBURSEMENT 23:43.856 --> 23:45.689 IS THAT IF THE REIMBURSEMENT GOES BELOW 80%, SHE WOULD NO 23:45.691 --> 23:47.124 GOES BELOW 80%, SHE WOULD NO LONGER COVER CHILDLESS ADULTS. 23:47.126 --> 23:48.793 LONGER COVER CHILDLESS ADULTS. SHE'S SORT OF SHIELDING HERSELF 23:48.795 --> 23:52.163 SHE'S SORT OF SHIELDING HERSELF FROM CRITICISM FROM THE 23:52.165 --> 23:52.930 FROM CRITICISM FROM THE REPUBLICANS WHILE AT THE SAME 23:52.932 --> 23:54.432 REPUBLICANS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BUILDING SUPPORT FOR THIS 23:54.434 --> 23:55.800 TIME BUILDING SUPPORT FOR THIS ARGUMENT THAT THE STATE WILL 23:55.802 --> 23:56.434 ARGUMENT THAT THE STATE WILL SAVE MONEY IF IT EXPANDS 23:56.436 --> 23:57.735 SAVE MONEY IF IT EXPANDS MEDICAID. 23:57.737 --> 23:59.904 MEDICAID. >> NOW, YOU MENTIONED DOLLARS 23:59.906 --> 24:00.671 >> NOW, YOU MENTIONED DOLLARS AND CENTS. 24:00.673 --> 24:02.106 AND CENTS. AND THE REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION TO 24:02.108 --> 24:03.641 AND THE REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION TO THIS HAS ITS OWN ARGUMENT ABOUT 24:03.643 --> 24:05.443 THIS HAS ITS OWN ARGUMENT ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS, THAT THIS IS 24:05.445 --> 24:07.311 DOLLARS AND CENTS, THAT THIS IS ADDING TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT, 24:07.313 --> 24:10.080 ADDING TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT, THAT IT CAN'T BE AFFORDED 24:10.082 --> 24:10.414 THAT IT CAN'T BE AFFORDED OVERALL. 24:10.416 --> 24:11.715 OVERALL. HOW IS SHE GOING TO OVERCOME 24:11.717 --> 24:12.016 HOW IS SHE GOING TO OVERCOME THAT? 24:12.018 --> 24:12.950 THAT? IS THERE ENOUGH MOMENTUM 24:12.952 --> 24:14.518 IS THERE ENOUGH MOMENTUM BUILDING TO ALLOW HER TO DO 24:14.520 --> 24:14.819 BUILDING TO ALLOW HER TO DO THAT? 24:14.821 --> 24:16.787 THAT? >> SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET THIS 24:16.789 --> 24:17.121 >> SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET THIS PASSED. 24:17.123 --> 24:19.123 PASSED. AS HER SPOKESMAN PUT TO ME, WHEN 24:19.125 --> 24:22.660 AS HER SPOKESMAN PUT TO ME, WHEN SHE DIGS IN HER HEELS, SHE DIGS 24:22.662 --> 24:23.727 SHE DIGS IN HER HEELS, SHE DIGS THEM IN, AND SHE WILL GO 24:23.729 --> 24:24.061 THEM IN, AND SHE WILL GO FORWARD. 24:24.063 --> 24:25.996 FORWARD. THE LEGISLATURE IS AN 24:25.998 --> 24:28.432 THE LEGISLATURE IS AN INTERESTING BODY BECAUSE AS YOU 24:28.434 --> 24:30.367 INTERESTING BODY BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY 24:30.369 --> 24:34.171 KNOW WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT USE ARGUMENTS, FINANCIAL 24:34.173 --> 24:35.606 MIGHT USE ARGUMENTS, FINANCIAL ARGUMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO 24:35.608 --> 24:36.540 ARGUMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO JUSTIFY THEIR POSITION AGAINST 24:36.542 --> 24:39.210 JUSTIFY THEIR POSITION AGAINST THE EXPANSION, IT IS A VERY 24:39.212 --> 24:40.778 THE EXPANSION, IT IS A VERY POLITICAL BODY AND A VERY -- AND 24:40.780 --> 24:41.946 POLITICAL BODY AND A VERY -- AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE 24:41.948 --> 24:43.080 WHEN IT COMES TO THE REPUBLICANS, THERE IS A VERY 24:43.082 --> 24:44.648 REPUBLICANS, THERE IS A VERY STRONG TEA PARTY TYPE OF 24:44.650 --> 24:46.083 STRONG TEA PARTY TYPE OF MENTALITY AMONG MANY OF THE 24:46.085 --> 24:47.418 MENTALITY AMONG MANY OF THE REPUBLICANS HERE WHO ARE VERY 24:47.420 --> 24:49.720 REPUBLICANS HERE WHO ARE VERY TIED TO THE IDEAS OF NOT 24:49.722 --> 24:50.988 TIED TO THE IDEAS OF NOT EXPANDING THE DEFICIT, NOT 24:50.990 --> 24:53.290 EXPANDING THE DEFICIT, NOT CONTRIBUTING TO A BIGGER ROLE OF 24:53.292 --> 24:57.027 CONTRIBUTING TO A BIGGER ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN THE LIVES OF S 24:57.029 --> 24:57.895 GOVERNMENT IN THE LIVES OF S CITIZ 24:57.897 --> 24:58.796 CITIZ CITIZENS, VERY PHILOSOPHICAL 24:58.798 --> 24:59.563 CITIZENS, VERY PHILOSOPHICAL IDEOLOGICAL POSITIONS AGAINST 24:59.565 --> 25:02.166 IDEOLOGICAL POSITIONS AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT 25:02.168 --> 25:03.901 THE HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA PROPOSED, AND 25:03.903 --> 25:05.803 PRESIDENT OBAMA PROPOSED, AND THAT IS NOW A LAW IN THIS 25:05.805 --> 25:06.136 THAT IS NOW A LAW IN THIS COUNTRY. 25:06.138 --> 25:08.339 COUNTRY. SO YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT 25:08.341 --> 25:10.341 SO YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO 25:10.343 --> 25:12.009 SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO LITTLE STILL SOMEWHAT UP IN THE 25:12.011 --> 25:12.276 LITTLE STILL SOMEWHAT UP IN THE AIR. 25:12.278 --> 25:13.878 AIR. I'M SURE THAT HER PEOPLE ARE 25:13.880 --> 25:14.345 I'M SURE THAT HER PEOPLE ARE WORKING HARD. 25:14.347 --> 25:16.780 WORKING HARD. WHEN I TALK TO MANY PEOPLE IN 25:16.782 --> 25:17.982 WHEN I TALK TO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS EFFORT, THEY SEEM TO THINK 25:17.984 --> 25:19.383 THIS EFFORT, THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE, BUT 25:19.385 --> 25:20.351 THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE, BUT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE 25:20.353 --> 25:21.151 THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IT THROUGH. 25:21.153 --> 25:22.686 TO GET IT THROUGH. >> DEMOCRATS SEEM UNITED IN 25:22.688 --> 25:23.354 >> DEMOCRATS SEEM UNITED IN FAVOR OF IT. 25:23.356 --> 25:25.189 FAVOR OF IT. AND IN FACT, THIS SEEMS TO HAVE 25:25.191 --> 25:27.091 AND IN FACT, THIS SEEMS TO HAVE GIVEN DEMOCRATS HERE IN THE 25:27.093 --> 25:28.025 GIVEN DEMOCRATS HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE SOME ENERGY AFTER 25:28.027 --> 25:34.999 LEGISLATURE SOME ENERGY AFTER YEARS AND YEARS OF NOT LETHARGY 25:35.001 --> 25:36.233 YEARS AND YEARS OF NOT LETHARGY BUT OF ALMOST VOICELESS BECAUSE 25:36.235 --> 25:37.368 BUT OF ALMOST VOICELESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POWER. 25:37.370 --> 25:38.435 THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POWER. ARE THEY GOING TO HOLD TOGETHER 25:38.437 --> 25:39.169 ARE THEY GOING TO HOLD TOGETHER ON THIS? 25:39.171 --> 25:40.704 ON THIS? >> IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION 25:40.706 --> 25:41.772 >> IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE I SPOKE TO SOME LEADERS 25:41.774 --> 25:43.541 BECAUSE I SPOKE TO SOME LEADERS IN THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS, AND 25:43.543 --> 25:45.109 IN THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS, AND THEY EXPRESS A LITTLE CONCERN 25:45.111 --> 25:48.412 THEY EXPRESS A LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT THE FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS 25:48.414 --> 25:51.115 ABOUT THE FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THE HOUSE SPEAKER, ANDY 25:51.117 --> 25:56.487 BECAUSE THE HOUSE SPEAKER, ANDY BIGGS, A REPUBLICAN -- 25:56.489 --> 25:57.821 BIGGS, A REPUBLICAN -- >> ANDY TOEBBIN. 25:57.823 --> 25:59.557 >> ANDY TOEBBIN. >> I'M SORRY. 25:59.559 --> 26:01.425 >> I'M SORRY. HE'S BEEN MEETING WITH THEM. 26:01.427 --> 26:03.060 HE'S BEEN MEETING WITH THEM. HE CAN DECIDE WHICH BILLS GET 26:03.062 --> 26:04.495 HE CAN DECIDE WHICH BILLS GET THROUGH, WHICH BILLS DON'T. 26:04.497 --> 26:07.498 THROUGH, WHICH BILLS DON'T. AND NOT THAT NOBODY SAID THAT 26:07.500 --> 26:09.300 AND NOT THAT NOBODY SAID THAT HE'S BEEN EXPLICITLY USING HIS 26:09.302 --> 26:12.770 HE'S BEEN EXPLICITLY USING HIS POWER TO TRY TO GET THEM -- 26:12.772 --> 26:13.537 POWER TO TRY TO GET THEM -- FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS TO VOTE 26:13.539 --> 26:15.272 FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS TO VOTE AGAINST THE EXPANSION, BUT I 26:15.274 --> 26:16.340 AGAINST THE EXPANSION, BUT I THINK IT'S EMPLOYEED THAT IF 26:16.342 --> 26:17.508 THINK IT'S EMPLOYEED THAT IF THEY'RE MEETING WITH YOU AND 26:17.510 --> 26:18.509 THEY'RE MEETING WITH YOU AND DISCUSSING HOW TO GET THEIR 26:18.511 --> 26:21.245 DISCUSSING HOW TO GET THEIR BILLS THROUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW -- 26:21.247 --> 26:22.479 BILLS THROUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW -- AND HE IS BRINGING UP THE 26:22.481 --> 26:24.081 AND HE IS BRINGING UP THE MEDICAID ISSUE, THEN MAYBE THERE 26:24.083 --> 26:25.816 MEDICAID ISSUE, THEN MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING THEY CAN WORK OUT 26:25.818 --> 26:26.350 IS SOMETHING THEY CAN WORK OUT IN BETWEEN. 26:26.352 --> 26:29.720 IN BETWEEN. BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY, IT IS A 26:29.722 --> 26:31.255 BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY, IT IS A DEFINING MOMENT FOR THE 26:31.257 --> 26:32.856 DEFINING MOMENT FOR THE DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE WHO HAVE 26:32.858 --> 26:33.891 DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE WHO HAVE BEEN VIRTUALLY WITHOUT ANY POWER 26:33.893 --> 26:36.493 BEEN VIRTUALLY WITHOUT ANY POWER FOR DECADES HERE. 26:36.495 --> 26:37.995 FOR DECADES HERE. AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR 26:37.997 --> 26:39.964 AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 26:39.966 --> 26:41.732 DEMOCRATS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND THEY FEEL ALMOST THAT IT'S 26:41.734 --> 26:43.767 AND THEY FEEL ALMOST THAT IT'S THEIR DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO 26:43.769 --> 26:45.803 THEIR DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO HELP THE GOVERNOR IN EVERY WAY 26:45.805 --> 26:47.738 HELP THE GOVERNOR IN EVERY WAY THEY CAN TO GET THIS PASSED, NOT 26:47.740 --> 26:49.473 THEY CAN TO GET THIS PASSED, NOT STAND IN HER WAY, MEANING NOT 26:49.475 --> 26:52.443 STAND IN HER WAY, MEANING NOT MAKING ANY OF THE MEMBERS VOTE 26:52.445 --> 26:53.544 MAKING ANY OF THE MEMBERS VOTE AGAINST THE EXPANSION. 26:53.546 --> 26:57.848 AGAINST THE EXPANSION. >> FERNANDA SANTOS, THANKS FOR 26:57.850 --> 26:58.349 >> FERNANDA SANTOS, THANKS FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. 26:58.351 --> 26:59.383 SPEAKING WITH ME. >> MY PLEASURE. 26:59.385 --> 27:00.317 >> MY PLEASURE. IT WAS GREAT BEING HERE. 27:00.319 --> 27:02.987 IT WAS GREAT BEING HERE. >> THERE'S MORE ON MEDICAID AND 27:02.989 --> 27:04.588 >> THERE'S MORE ON MEDICAID AND BREWER'S EXPANSION PLAN ON OUR 27:04.590 --> 27:04.922 BREWER'S EXPANSION PLAN ON OUR WEBSITE. 27:04.924 --> 27:05.823 WEBSITE. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY, 27:05.825 --> 27:07.992 THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY, MARCH 15th, 2013. 27:07.994 --> 27:09.627 MARCH 15th, 2013. NEXT WEEK, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT 27:09.629 --> 27:12.162 NEXT WEEK, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT OFFICIALS ARE CALLING A DRAMATIC 27:12.164 --> 27:13.230 OFFICIALS ARE CALLING A DRAMATIC SHIFT IN THE STATE 27:13.232 --> 27:13.897 SHIFT IN THE STATE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S 27:13.899 --> 27:15.633 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S HIGHWAY PRIORITIES. 27:15.635 --> 27:19.003 HIGHWAY PRIORITIES. FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL 27:19.005 --> 27:20.471 FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL CHEHA. 27:20.473 --> 27:24.473 >>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.