1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,402 >>> REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR JAN BREWER MAKES HER 2 00:00:03,404 --> 00:00:04,136 BREWER MAKES HER COUNTERINTUITIVE POLITICAL MOVE 3 00:00:04,138 --> 00:00:06,105 COUNTERINTUITIVE POLITICAL MOVE TO EXPAND MEDICAID. 4 00:00:06,107 --> 00:00:08,073 TO EXPAND MEDICAID. >> THIS MEDICAID RESTORATION 5 00:00:08,075 --> 00:00:10,309 >> THIS MEDICAID RESTORATION PLAN WILL BRING $8 BILLION INTO 6 00:00:10,311 --> 00:00:11,276 PLAN WILL BRING $8 BILLION INTO OUR ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT FOUR 7 00:00:11,278 --> 00:00:13,045 OUR ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. 8 00:00:13,047 --> 00:00:16,281 YEARS. IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A 9 00:00:16,283 --> 00:00:17,916 IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS 10 00:00:17,918 --> 00:00:18,817 SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF 11 00:00:18,819 --> 00:00:20,219 STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF CARING FOR THE UNINSURED. 12 00:00:20,221 --> 00:00:22,588 CARING FOR THE UNINSURED. >> DEMOCRATS ARE ALL FOR IT, BUT 13 00:00:22,590 --> 00:00:26,592 >> DEMOCRATS ARE ALL FOR IT, BUT WILL BREWER SELL A REPUBLICANS 14 00:00:26,594 --> 00:00:26,925 WILL BREWER SELL A REPUBLICANS BUY-IN? 15 00:00:26,927 --> 00:00:28,427 BUY-IN? >> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON 16 00:00:28,429 --> 00:00:28,727 >> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON THIS. 17 00:00:28,729 --> 00:00:29,928 THIS. WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT 18 00:00:29,930 --> 00:00:30,996 WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN HER STATE OF THE UNION 19 00:00:30,998 --> 00:00:32,131 IN HER STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE 20 00:00:32,133 --> 00:00:33,499 SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND 21 00:00:33,501 --> 00:00:34,333 THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND APPLAUDED HER. 22 00:00:34,335 --> 00:00:36,101 APPLAUDED HER. I WAS SO SURPRISED. 23 00:00:36,103 --> 00:00:38,437 I WAS SO SURPRISED. >> WILL I STAND WITH MY 24 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:39,371 >> WILL I STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND 25 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:42,174 CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF 26 00:00:42,176 --> 00:00:43,575 I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF ARIZONIANS IN REJECTING 27 00:00:43,577 --> 00:00:45,411 ARIZONIANS IN REJECTING OBAMACARE IN THIS STATE, THIS 28 00:00:45,413 --> 00:00:47,212 OBAMACARE IN THIS STATE, THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE STATE OF 29 00:00:47,214 --> 00:00:47,546 WILL BANKRUPT THE STATE OF ARIZONA. 30 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:49,982 ARIZONA. >> STATE CAPITOL POLITICS TURNED 31 00:00:49,984 --> 00:00:50,349 >> STATE CAPITOL POLITICS TURNED SIDEWAYS. 32 00:00:50,351 --> 00:00:51,884 SIDEWAYS. IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." 33 00:00:51,886 --> 00:00:53,652 IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." >> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" 34 00:00:53,654 --> 00:00:54,987 >> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A 35 00:00:54,989 --> 00:00:56,588 IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL 36 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:58,323 GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF 37 00:00:58,325 --> 00:00:59,258 FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF ARIZONA MUST BE MEDIA. 38 00:00:59,260 --> 00:00:59,958 ARIZONA MUST BE MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED 39 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:04,630 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. 40 00:01:04,632 --> 00:01:19,011 >>> ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR. >> GOVERNOR BREWER HAS STEPPED 41 00:01:19,013 --> 00:01:21,413 >> GOVERNOR BREWER HAS STEPPED INTO ARIZONA'S POLITICAL BREACH 42 00:01:21,415 --> 00:01:23,415 INTO ARIZONA'S POLITICAL BREACH BY PROPOSING THAT THE STATE 43 00:01:23,417 --> 00:01:24,817 BY PROPOSING THAT THE STATE ACCEPT FEDERAL AFFORDABLE CARE 44 00:01:24,819 --> 00:01:28,120 ACCEPT FEDERAL AFFORDABLE CARE ACT MONEY TO EXPAND MEDICAID. 45 00:01:28,122 --> 00:01:29,888 ACT MONEY TO EXPAND MEDICAID. SHE SAYS IT WOULD PROVIDE HEALTH 46 00:01:29,890 --> 00:01:35,194 SHE SAYS IT WOULD PROVIDE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR AN ADECISIDITIONA 47 00:01:35,196 --> 00:01:35,994 INSURANCE FOR AN ADECISIDITIONA 240,000 PEOPLE. 48 00:01:35,996 --> 00:01:37,262 240,000 PEOPLE. BUT KEY REPUBLICANS IN THE 49 00:01:37,264 --> 00:01:39,031 BUT KEY REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE SAY THEY'RE OPPOSED. 50 00:01:39,033 --> 00:01:40,132 LEGISLATURE SAY THEY'RE OPPOSED. TONIGHT WE'LL EXPLORE THE TEST 51 00:01:40,134 --> 00:01:42,701 TONIGHT WE'LL EXPLORE THE TEST OF WILLS THAT IS TAKING SHAPE. 52 00:01:42,703 --> 00:01:44,236 OF WILLS THAT IS TAKING SHAPE. FIRST, THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL 53 00:01:44,238 --> 00:01:45,204 FIRST, THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL AS SHE PRESENTED IT THIS WEEK AT 54 00:01:45,206 --> 00:01:47,439 AS SHE PRESENTED IT THIS WEEK AT THE STATE CAPITOL. 55 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:49,541 THE STATE CAPITOL. >> ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE 56 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:51,510 >> ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED THIS 57 00:01:51,512 --> 00:01:54,079 CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED THIS PROGRAM AND HAVE TWICE VOTED BY 58 00:01:54,081 --> 00:01:56,048 PROGRAM AND HAVE TWICE VOTED BY WIDE MARGINS TO EXPAND COVERAGE 59 00:01:56,050 --> 00:01:56,715 WIDE MARGINS TO EXPAND COVERAGE FOR THE WORKING POOR IN OUR 60 00:01:56,717 --> 00:01:59,051 FOR THE WORKING POOR IN OUR STATE. 61 00:01:59,053 --> 00:02:01,019 STATE. TODAY I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT 62 00:02:01,021 --> 00:02:04,256 TODAY I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE CRAFTED A THOUGHTFUL, 63 00:02:04,258 --> 00:02:05,657 WE HAVE CRAFTED A THOUGHTFUL, CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION THAT 64 00:02:05,659 --> 00:02:06,391 CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION THAT HONORS THE WILL OF THE ARIZONA 65 00:02:06,393 --> 00:02:08,127 HONORS THE WILL OF THE ARIZONA VOTERS. 66 00:02:08,129 --> 00:02:10,295 VOTERS. WHAT'S MORE, THIS MEDICAID 67 00:02:10,297 --> 00:02:12,764 WHAT'S MORE, THIS MEDICAID RESTORATION PLAN WILL BRING $8 68 00:02:12,766 --> 00:02:13,899 RESTORATION PLAN WILL BRING $8 BILLION INTO OUR ECONOMY OVER 69 00:02:13,901 --> 00:02:15,901 BILLION INTO OUR ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. 70 00:02:15,903 --> 00:02:19,171 THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A 71 00:02:19,173 --> 00:02:21,039 IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS 72 00:02:21,041 --> 00:02:21,974 SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF 73 00:02:21,976 --> 00:02:23,208 STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF CARING FOR THE UNINSURED. 74 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:24,543 CARING FOR THE UNINSURED. AND IT WILL KEEP ARIZONA'S TAX 75 00:02:24,545 --> 00:02:27,045 AND IT WILL KEEP ARIZONA'S TAX DOLLARS HERE AT HOME. 76 00:02:27,047 --> 00:02:28,814 DOLLARS HERE AT HOME. RATHER THAN ALLOWING THEM TO GO 77 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:30,549 RATHER THAN ALLOWING THEM TO GO TO WASHINGTON TO BE SPENT ON WHO 78 00:02:30,551 --> 00:02:32,885 TO WASHINGTON TO BE SPENT ON WHO KNOWS WHAT. 79 00:02:32,887 --> 00:02:36,655 KNOWS WHAT. BEST OF ALL, MY PLAN COMES AT NO 80 00:02:36,657 --> 00:02:38,924 BEST OF ALL, MY PLAN COMES AT NO COST TO OUR STATE GENERAL FUND. 81 00:02:38,926 --> 00:02:40,526 COST TO OUR STATE GENERAL FUND. >> BREWER HAS SUSPENDED HER 82 00:02:40,528 --> 00:02:41,793 >> BREWER HAS SUSPENDED HER OPPOSITION TO PART OF THE 83 00:02:41,795 --> 00:02:43,195 OPPOSITION TO PART OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO PUSH 84 00:02:43,197 --> 00:02:45,264 AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO PUSH MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE STATE. 85 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:48,233 MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE STATE. SHE INSISTS HERS IS A CONSISTENT 86 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:48,934 SHE INSISTS HERS IS A CONSISTENT CONSERVATIVE POSITION. 87 00:02:48,936 --> 00:02:50,202 CONSERVATIVE POSITION. EVEN TYING HEALTH CARE FOR THE 88 00:02:50,204 --> 00:02:52,504 EVEN TYING HEALTH CARE FOR THE POOR TO THE PRO-LIFE STANCE THAT 89 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:53,772 POOR TO THE PRO-LIFE STANCE THAT SHE SAYS IS HER TRUE CHARACTER 90 00:02:53,774 --> 00:02:55,607 SHE SAYS IS HER TRUE CHARACTER AND THAT OF OTHER REPUBLICANS. 91 00:02:55,609 --> 00:02:57,242 AND THAT OF OTHER REPUBLICANS. >> BUT THERE'S SOMETHING EVEN 92 00:02:57,244 --> 00:02:58,243 >> BUT THERE'S SOMETHING EVEN MORE IMPORTANT AT STAKE TODAY. 93 00:02:58,245 --> 00:03:00,879 MORE IMPORTANT AT STAKE TODAY. PEOPLE. 94 00:03:00,881 --> 00:03:02,548 PEOPLE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TENS OF 95 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:04,816 I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF OUR FELLOW 96 00:03:04,818 --> 00:03:06,485 THOUSANDS OF OUR FELLOW ARIZONIANS WHO HAVE LOST JOBS 97 00:03:06,487 --> 00:03:07,152 ARIZONIANS WHO HAVE LOST JOBS AND THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE 98 00:03:07,154 --> 00:03:08,754 AND THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE DURING THE GREAT RECESSION. 99 00:03:08,756 --> 00:03:10,789 DURING THE GREAT RECESSION. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS 100 00:03:10,791 --> 00:03:12,824 I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS MORE WHO CONTINUE TO WORK BUT 101 00:03:12,826 --> 00:03:13,959 MORE WHO CONTINUE TO WORK BUT SIMPLY DON'T EARN ENOUGH TO 102 00:03:13,961 --> 00:03:16,395 SIMPLY DON'T EARN ENOUGH TO AFFORD PRIVATE INSURANCE. 103 00:03:16,397 --> 00:03:17,996 AFFORD PRIVATE INSURANCE. IF YOU'RE ONE OF THESE 104 00:03:17,998 --> 00:03:20,165 IF YOU'RE ONE OF THESE ARIZONIANS AND YOU DON'T HAVE 105 00:03:20,167 --> 00:03:21,033 ARIZONIANS AND YOU DON'T HAVE CHILDREN, YOU'RE CURRENTLY 106 00:03:21,035 --> 00:03:21,667 CHILDREN, YOU'RE CURRENTLY LOCKED OUT OF OUR ACCESS 107 00:03:21,669 --> 00:03:25,704 LOCKED OUT OF OUR ACCESS PROGRAM. 108 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:28,807 PROGRAM. THEY WALK A DAILY TIGHTROPE 109 00:03:28,809 --> 00:03:30,375 THEY WALK A DAILY TIGHTROPE KNOWING THEY ARE ONE-CAR 110 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:32,044 KNOWING THEY ARE ONE-CAR ACCIDENT, ONE FREAK INJURY OR 111 00:03:32,046 --> 00:03:33,879 ACCIDENT, ONE FREAK INJURY OR ONE SERIOUS ILLNESS AWAY FROM 112 00:03:33,881 --> 00:03:37,249 ONE SERIOUS ILLNESS AWAY FROM DISASTER. 113 00:03:37,251 --> 00:03:38,584 DISASTER. WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NEED 114 00:03:38,586 --> 00:03:40,352 WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NEED CARE, THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY 115 00:03:40,354 --> 00:03:41,019 CARE, THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM IS USUALLY THEIR ONLY 116 00:03:41,021 --> 00:03:42,821 ROOM IS USUALLY THEIR ONLY OPTION. 117 00:03:42,823 --> 00:03:44,323 OPTION. THIS IS NOT JUST THE MOST 118 00:03:44,325 --> 00:03:46,925 THIS IS NOT JUST THE MOST EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR TAXPAYERS, 119 00:03:46,927 --> 00:03:50,295 EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR TAXPAYERS, IT IS THE LEAST EFFECTIVE WAY TO 120 00:03:50,297 --> 00:03:51,029 IT IS THE LEAST EFFECTIVE WAY TO TREAT A CHRONIC CONDITION LIKE 121 00:03:51,031 --> 00:03:53,232 TREAT A CHRONIC CONDITION LIKE CANCER OR DIABETES. 122 00:03:53,234 --> 00:03:55,901 CANCER OR DIABETES. SO THE PATIENTS GET SICKER, AND 123 00:03:55,903 --> 00:03:58,136 SO THE PATIENTS GET SICKER, AND THE REST OF ARIZONA PAYS FOR IT. 124 00:03:58,138 --> 00:04:01,273 THE REST OF ARIZONA PAYS FOR IT. >> THE MEDICAID PROPOSAL WOULD 125 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:03,208 >> THE MEDICAID PROPOSAL WOULD EXPAND ELIGIBILITY FOR THE 126 00:04:03,210 --> 00:04:04,843 EXPAND ELIGIBILITY FOR THE FEDERAL HEALTH PLAN TO PEOPLE 127 00:04:04,845 --> 00:04:07,112 FEDERAL HEALTH PLAN TO PEOPLE WHOSE INCOMES ARE AT 133% OF THE 128 00:04:07,114 --> 00:04:08,113 WHOSE INCOMES ARE AT 133% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. 129 00:04:08,115 --> 00:04:09,481 FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. THAT MEANS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT AN 130 00:04:09,483 --> 00:04:11,116 THAT MEANS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WITH AN INCOME OF 131 00:04:11,118 --> 00:04:13,485 INDIVIDUAL WITH AN INCOME OF $15,000 A YEAR WOULD BE 132 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:13,852 $15,000 A YEAR WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. 133 00:04:13,854 --> 00:04:15,787 ELIGIBLE. AS WOULD A FAMILY OF FOUR WITH 134 00:04:15,789 --> 00:04:18,357 AS WOULD A FAMILY OF FOUR WITH TOTAL INCOME OF $31,000 A YEAR. 135 00:04:18,359 --> 00:04:20,826 TOTAL INCOME OF $31,000 A YEAR. >> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE 136 00:04:20,828 --> 00:04:23,829 >> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF A PRO-LIFE PARTY. 137 00:04:23,831 --> 00:04:26,865 A MEMBER OF A PRO-LIFE PARTY. WITH THIS LEGISLATION, WE'RE 138 00:04:26,867 --> 00:04:27,599 WITH THIS LEGISLATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. 139 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:28,967 TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING 140 00:04:28,969 --> 00:04:31,136 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES. 141 00:04:31,138 --> 00:04:34,906 PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'M A PRO-LIFE GOVERNOR. 142 00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:36,541 I'M A PRO-LIFE GOVERNOR. I REFUSE TO STAND BY AND ALLOW 143 00:04:36,543 --> 00:04:38,977 I REFUSE TO STAND BY AND ALLOW THIS MANY PEOPLE TO NEEDLESSLY 144 00:04:38,979 --> 00:04:40,579 THIS MANY PEOPLE TO NEEDLESSLY SUFFER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE 145 00:04:40,581 --> 00:04:43,715 SUFFER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE A SOLUTION. 146 00:04:43,717 --> 00:04:48,387 A SOLUTION. THAT'S WHAT -- THANK YOU. 147 00:04:48,389 --> 00:04:50,522 THAT'S WHAT -- THANK YOU. >> THE STATE WOULD GET A 148 00:04:50,524 --> 00:04:51,690 >> THE STATE WOULD GET A WINDFALL FROM EXPANSION, 149 00:04:51,692 --> 00:04:53,625 WINDFALL FROM EXPANSION, ESTIMATED AT $1.6 BILLION A 150 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:53,925 ESTIMATED AT $1.6 BILLION A YEAR. 151 00:04:53,927 --> 00:04:56,061 YEAR. ALL COSTS WOULD BE BORNE BY THE 152 00:04:56,063 --> 00:04:56,962 ALL COSTS WOULD BE BORNE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE EARLY 153 00:04:56,964 --> 00:04:58,830 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE EARLY YEARS GOING TO 90% FEDERAL 154 00:04:58,832 --> 00:05:00,899 YEARS GOING TO 90% FEDERAL COVERAGE AFTER THREE YEARS. 155 00:05:00,901 --> 00:05:02,768 COVERAGE AFTER THREE YEARS. EVEN THEN BREWER'S PLAN CALLS 156 00:05:02,770 --> 00:05:04,503 EVEN THEN BREWER'S PLAN CALLS FOR THE STATE'S SHARE ESTIMATED 157 00:05:04,505 --> 00:05:07,172 FOR THE STATE'S SHARE ESTIMATED AT $250 MILLION A YEAR TO BE 158 00:05:07,174 --> 00:05:09,141 AT $250 MILLION A YEAR TO BE COVERED BY A FEE ON HOSPITALS 159 00:05:09,143 --> 00:05:09,741 COVERED BY A FEE ON HOSPITALS AND NOT COME FROM STATE 160 00:05:09,743 --> 00:05:11,877 AND NOT COME FROM STATE TAXPAYERS. 161 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:13,478 TAXPAYERS. BREWER HAS ASSEMBLED A BROAD 162 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,347 BREWER HAS ASSEMBLED A BROAD COALITION OF SUPPORT FOR THE 163 00:05:15,349 --> 00:05:16,882 COALITION OF SUPPORT FOR THE EXPANSION, AND SHE WAS QUICK TO 164 00:05:16,884 --> 00:05:18,583 EXPANSION, AND SHE WAS QUICK TO SHOW THAT OFF AND TO EMPHASIZE 165 00:05:18,585 --> 00:05:21,086 SHOW THAT OFF AND TO EMPHASIZE THAT ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE 166 00:05:21,088 --> 00:05:22,220 THAT ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE APPROVED EXPANDED HEALTH CARE 167 00:05:22,222 --> 00:05:23,322 APPROVED EXPANDED HEALTH CARE FOR THE POOR MORE THAN ONCE. 168 00:05:23,324 --> 00:05:27,359 FOR THE POOR MORE THAN ONCE. >> I AM SO HONORED TODAY TO BE 169 00:05:27,361 --> 00:05:29,995 >> I AM SO HONORED TODAY TO BE HERE, JOINED BY THIS BROAD AND 170 00:05:29,997 --> 00:05:32,064 HERE, JOINED BY THIS BROAD AND DIVERSE COALITION REPRESENTING 171 00:05:32,066 --> 00:05:33,398 DIVERSE COALITION REPRESENTING MORE THAN 110 ORGANIZATIONS 172 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,168 MORE THAN 110 ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS ARIZONA. 173 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:39,404 ACROSS ARIZONA. BUSINESS LEADERS, DOCTORS, 174 00:05:39,406 --> 00:05:41,340 BUSINESS LEADERS, DOCTORS, NURSES, COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE 175 00:05:41,342 --> 00:05:44,443 NURSES, COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE CATHOLIC DIOCESE, UNIVERSITY 176 00:05:44,445 --> 00:05:45,110 CATHOLIC DIOCESE, UNIVERSITY REGENTS, MENTAL HEALTH 177 00:05:45,112 --> 00:05:55,887 REGENTS, MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND MORE. 178 00:05:55,889 --> 00:05:58,557 PROFESSIONALS AND MORE. WHAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS 179 00:05:58,559 --> 00:06:01,126 WHAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS THEIR DESIRE TO SEE THE ARIZONA 180 00:06:01,128 --> 00:06:02,994 THEIR DESIRE TO SEE THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE JOIN ME IN ENACTING 181 00:06:02,996 --> 00:06:05,831 LEGISLATURE JOIN ME IN ENACTING THIS PLAN TO RESTORE MEDICAID 182 00:06:05,833 --> 00:06:07,399 THIS PLAN TO RESTORE MEDICAID COVERAGE, BOOST OUR ECONOMY, 183 00:06:07,401 --> 00:06:09,935 COVERAGE, BOOST OUR ECONOMY, TAKE PRESSURE OFF OUR STATE 184 00:06:09,937 --> 00:06:11,403 TAKE PRESSURE OFF OUR STATE BUDGET, AND PROVIDE 185 00:06:11,405 --> 00:06:12,437 BUDGET, AND PROVIDE COST-EFFECTIVE CARE TO 186 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:15,974 COST-EFFECTIVE CARE TO ARIZONIANS WHO NEED IT THE MOST. 187 00:06:15,976 --> 00:06:20,445 ARIZONIANS WHO NEED IT THE MOST. AND REMEMBER, ARIZONIANS VOTED 188 00:06:20,447 --> 00:06:22,147 AND REMEMBER, ARIZONIANS VOTED TWICE DEMANDED THIS. 189 00:06:22,149 --> 00:06:22,814 TWICE DEMANDED THIS. TWICE THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA 190 00:06:22,816 --> 00:06:24,149 TWICE THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA VOTED. 191 00:06:24,151 --> 00:06:26,151 VOTED. >> LEGISLATIVE REACTION WAS 192 00:06:26,153 --> 00:06:27,652 >> LEGISLATIVE REACTION WAS SWIFT AND DECISIVE. 193 00:06:27,654 --> 00:06:29,287 SWIFT AND DECISIVE. ELECTED OFFICIALS ALREADY WERE 194 00:06:29,289 --> 00:06:31,690 ELECTED OFFICIALS ALREADY WERE LARGELY IN TWO CAMPS BEFORE THE 195 00:06:31,692 --> 00:06:32,124 LARGELY IN TWO CAMPS BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT. 196 00:06:32,126 --> 00:06:32,858 ANNOUNCEMENT. AND IT SERVED TO INTENSIFY THEIR 197 00:06:32,860 --> 00:06:36,928 AND IT SERVED TO INTENSIFY THEIR STANCE. 198 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:38,130 STANCE. WHAT'S YOUR STAND ON THE 199 00:06:38,132 --> 00:06:39,664 WHAT'S YOUR STAND ON THE MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PROPOSED 200 00:06:39,666 --> 00:06:40,699 MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PROPOSED BY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER? 201 00:06:40,701 --> 00:06:42,501 BY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER? >> I SUPPORT HER WHOLEHEARTEDLY. 202 00:06:42,503 --> 00:06:43,802 >> I SUPPORT HER WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED 203 00:06:43,804 --> 00:06:45,771 I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO ESPECIALLY WITH THE RURAL 204 00:06:45,773 --> 00:06:47,139 TO DO ESPECIALLY WITH THE RURAL HOSPITALS. 205 00:06:47,141 --> 00:06:48,039 HOSPITALS. WE HAVE RURALS THAT ARE ABOUT TO 206 00:06:48,041 --> 00:06:49,341 WE HAVE RURALS THAT ARE ABOUT TO GO BROKE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'VE 207 00:06:49,343 --> 00:06:50,742 GO BROKE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'VE HAD UNCOMPENSATED CARE FOR THE 208 00:06:50,744 --> 00:06:52,344 HAD UNCOMPENSATED CARE FOR THE LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS. 209 00:06:52,346 --> 00:06:54,413 LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS. AND IT'S TIME WE COME BACK IN 210 00:06:54,415 --> 00:06:57,382 AND IT'S TIME WE COME BACK IN AND START WITH THE 204 211 00:06:57,384 --> 00:06:58,450 AND START WITH THE 204 POPULATION, WHICH IS THE 212 00:06:58,452 --> 00:07:00,719 POPULATION, WHICH IS THE CHILDLESS ADULTS FIRST, AND THEN 213 00:07:00,721 --> 00:07:02,087 CHILDLESS ADULTS FIRST, AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO GO ON, AND IT'S 214 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:03,422 WE'VE GOT TO GO ON, AND IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF MONEY 215 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:03,989 GOING TO BRING A LOT OF MONEY INTO ARIZONA. 216 00:07:03,991 --> 00:07:05,223 INTO ARIZONA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH CARE 217 00:07:05,225 --> 00:07:09,461 IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH CARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON 218 00:07:09,463 --> 00:07:10,162 FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON COMPENSATED CARE WHICH WE'RE 219 00:07:10,164 --> 00:07:12,798 COMPENSATED CARE WHICH WE'RE PAYING FOR ANYWAYS, AND IT'S 220 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,865 PAYING FOR ANYWAYS, AND IT'S HURTING SMALL BUSINESS TO DO 221 00:07:13,867 --> 00:07:14,966 HURTING SMALL BUSINESS TO DO THAT, BUTT IT'S GOING TO GIVE 222 00:07:14,968 --> 00:07:15,867 THAT, BUTT IT'S GOING TO GIVE COVERAGE TO THEM. 223 00:07:15,869 --> 00:07:17,402 COVERAGE TO THEM. AND THEN OVER THE NEXT FEW 224 00:07:17,404 --> 00:07:19,237 AND THEN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, IT'S 300 AND SOME 225 00:07:19,239 --> 00:07:19,571 YEARS, IT'S 300 AND SOME MILLION. 226 00:07:19,573 --> 00:07:23,575 MILLION. IT'S $1.6 BILLION IN '15, $1.7 227 00:07:23,577 --> 00:07:24,509 IT'S $1.6 BILLION IN '15, $1.7 BILLION IN '16. 228 00:07:24,511 --> 00:07:27,913 BILLION IN '16. AND THAT'S HUGE TO THE STATE. 229 00:07:27,915 --> 00:07:30,949 AND THAT'S HUGE TO THE STATE. JUST THE MATH OF IT IS ENORMOUS. 230 00:07:30,951 --> 00:07:31,583 JUST THE MATH OF IT IS ENORMOUS. I SUPPORT IT. 231 00:07:31,585 --> 00:07:32,918 I SUPPORT IT. THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT WE 232 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,852 THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT WE NEED TO DO IT. 233 00:07:33,854 --> 00:07:35,987 NEED TO DO IT. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 234 00:07:35,989 --> 00:07:39,524 IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I KNOW PEOPLE THAT WERE PUSHED 235 00:07:39,526 --> 00:07:40,926 I KNOW PEOPLE THAT WERE PUSHED OFF, VETS THAT CAME BACK FROM 236 00:07:40,928 --> 00:07:42,394 OFF, VETS THAT CAME BACK FROM IRAQ, AND THEY WERE PUSHED OR AM 237 00:07:42,396 --> 00:07:42,661 IRAQ, AND THEY WERE PUSHED OR AM SES. 238 00:07:42,663 --> 00:07:45,263 SES. >> I STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS 239 00:07:45,265 --> 00:07:46,631 >> I STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND I BELIEVE 240 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:47,966 IN MY DISTRICT, AND I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY IN ARIZONIANS 241 00:07:47,968 --> 00:07:49,935 THE VAST MAJORITY IN ARIZONIANS IN REJECTING OBAMACARE IN THIS 242 00:07:49,937 --> 00:07:51,169 IN REJECTING OBAMACARE IN THIS STATE, THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE 243 00:07:51,171 --> 00:07:55,006 STATE, THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND CREATE A 244 00:07:55,008 --> 00:07:55,307 STATE OF ARIZONA AND CREATE A LASSO. 245 00:07:55,309 --> 00:07:58,176 LASSO. IT WILL PULL A NOOSE AROUND THE 246 00:07:58,178 --> 00:07:59,277 IT WILL PULL A NOOSE AROUND THE TAXPAYERS, AND THOSE WHO FRANKLY 247 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:00,445 TAXPAYERS, AND THOSE WHO FRANKLY NEED HEALTH CARE THE MOST. 248 00:08:00,447 --> 00:08:01,680 NEED HEALTH CARE THE MOST. >> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON 249 00:08:01,682 --> 00:08:03,648 >> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON THIS. 250 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:05,083 THIS. WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT 251 00:08:05,085 --> 00:08:06,685 WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN HER STATE OF THE UNION 252 00:08:06,687 --> 00:08:07,853 IN HER STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE 253 00:08:07,855 --> 00:08:09,287 SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND 254 00:08:09,289 --> 00:08:10,255 THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND APPLAUDED HER. 255 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:14,259 APPLAUDED HER. I WAS SO SURPRISED AND SO 256 00:08:14,261 --> 00:08:16,228 I WAS SO SURPRISED AND SO THRILLED THAT SHE'S DOING THIS. 257 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:16,962 THRILLED THAT SHE'S DOING THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS 258 00:08:16,964 --> 00:08:18,563 THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY I GOT INTO OFFICE IN THE 259 00:08:18,565 --> 00:08:19,531 WHY I GOT INTO OFFICE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 260 00:08:19,533 --> 00:08:20,832 FIRST PLACE. THE WHOLE REASON I RAN WAS 261 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:21,967 THE WHOLE REASON I RAN WAS BECAUSE I WAS SEEING THE 262 00:08:21,969 --> 00:08:22,968 BECAUSE I WAS SEEING THE INJUSTICE AND THE FACT THAT 263 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:25,136 INJUSTICE AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THEIR 264 00:08:25,138 --> 00:08:27,105 PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THEIR MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS 265 00:08:27,107 --> 00:08:27,372 MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS MET. 266 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:28,206 MET. THEY'RE JUST NOT. 267 00:08:28,208 --> 00:08:31,409 THEY'RE JUST NOT. AND THAT'S INEXCUSABLE. 268 00:08:31,411 --> 00:08:35,046 AND THAT'S INEXCUSABLE. WE HAVE THIS SYSTEM NOW THAT IS 269 00:08:35,048 --> 00:08:37,249 WE HAVE THIS SYSTEM NOW THAT IS OFFERING US $10 TO EVERY $1 270 00:08:37,251 --> 00:08:38,250 OFFERING US $10 TO EVERY $1 ARIZONA SPENDS. 271 00:08:38,252 --> 00:08:39,518 ARIZONA SPENDS. WE'D BE CRAZY NOT TO TAKE 272 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,488 WE'D BE CRAZY NOT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. 273 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:44,489 ADVANTAGE OF THAT. THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS. 274 00:08:44,491 --> 00:08:46,925 THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS. WE NEED TO BRING THOSE TAX 275 00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:47,726 WE NEED TO BRING THOSE TAX DOLLARS BACK TO ARIZONA. 276 00:08:47,728 --> 00:08:49,427 DOLLARS BACK TO ARIZONA. IF THEY DON'T, THEY'RE GOING TO 277 00:08:49,429 --> 00:08:50,896 IF THEY DON'T, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO MEXICO, CALIFORNIA, TO 278 00:08:50,898 --> 00:08:52,097 GO TO MEXICO, CALIFORNIA, TO ANOTHER STATE, AND WE WILL LOSE 279 00:08:52,099 --> 00:08:52,964 ANOTHER STATE, AND WE WILL LOSE OUT ON THIS. 280 00:08:52,966 --> 00:08:56,268 OUT ON THIS. AND WE WILL HAVE OUR VULNERABLE 281 00:08:56,270 --> 00:08:57,569 AND WE WILL HAVE OUR VULNERABLE CITIZENS, OUR MOST VULNERABLE 282 00:08:57,571 --> 00:08:58,703 CITIZENS, OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE, NOT ABLE TO GET THE 283 00:08:58,705 --> 00:08:59,804 PEOPLE, NOT ABLE TO GET THE HEALTH CARE THAT THEY DESERVE. 284 00:08:59,806 --> 00:09:01,373 HEALTH CARE THAT THEY DESERVE. >> IT'S THE SAME AS IT'S BEEN 285 00:09:01,375 --> 00:09:03,341 >> IT'S THE SAME AS IT'S BEEN SINCE I WAS RUNNING FOR 286 00:09:03,343 --> 00:09:04,109 SINCE I WAS RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION, AND THAT IS I 287 00:09:04,111 --> 00:09:06,211 RE-ELECTION, AND THAT IS I OPPOSE IT. 288 00:09:06,213 --> 00:09:07,579 OPPOSE IT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING 289 00:09:07,581 --> 00:09:09,314 I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING THE BILL THAT SHE'S PLANNING ON 290 00:09:09,316 --> 00:09:11,149 THE BILL THAT SHE'S PLANNING ON INTRODUCING. 291 00:09:11,151 --> 00:09:15,387 INTRODUCING. AND SEEING WHAT DETAILS ARE 292 00:09:15,389 --> 00:09:17,088 AND SEEING WHAT DETAILS ARE THERE AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM 293 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:17,822 THERE AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. 294 00:09:17,824 --> 00:09:19,491 THERE. >> COULD YOUR READING OF THAT 295 00:09:19,493 --> 00:09:20,725 >> COULD YOUR READING OF THAT BILL CHANGE YOUR MIND? 296 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:22,193 BILL CHANGE YOUR MIND? >> WELL, I DOUBT IT BECAUSE I 297 00:09:22,195 --> 00:09:24,062 >> WELL, I DOUBT IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE 298 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:26,464 DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING NEW FROM WHAT WE'VE 299 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:28,433 ANYTHING NEW FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING IN SPEECHES AND IN 300 00:09:28,435 --> 00:09:28,900 BEEN HEARING IN SPEECHES AND IN DISCUSSION. 301 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:32,237 DISCUSSION. >> AND DO YOU -- YOU BEAR A DUAL 302 00:09:32,239 --> 00:09:32,537 >> AND DO YOU -- YOU BEAR A DUAL ROLE. 303 00:09:32,539 --> 00:09:33,872 ROLE. NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A VOTE AS A 304 00:09:33,874 --> 00:09:35,674 NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A VOTE AS A SENATOR, BUT YOU SHEPHERD THE 305 00:09:35,676 --> 00:09:38,276 SENATOR, BUT YOU SHEPHERD THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IN THE SENATE. 306 00:09:38,278 --> 00:09:39,911 REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IN THE SENATE. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING GOING ON 307 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:41,580 WHAT ARE YOU SEEING GOING ON THERE AS FAR AS SUPPORT FOR OR 308 00:09:41,582 --> 00:09:42,981 THERE AS FAR AS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO THE MEDICAID 309 00:09:42,983 --> 00:09:43,481 OPPOSITION TO THE MEDICAID EXPANSION? 310 00:09:43,483 --> 00:09:45,584 EXPANSION? >> I THINK PRIMARILY UNTIL NOW, 311 00:09:45,586 --> 00:09:46,751 >> I THINK PRIMARILY UNTIL NOW, EVERYBODY'S BEEN WANTING TO SEE 312 00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:48,353 EVERYBODY'S BEEN WANTING TO SEE A BILL SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THE 313 00:09:48,355 --> 00:09:49,955 A BILL SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS, MAKE DECISIONS. 314 00:09:49,957 --> 00:09:52,023 LANGUAGE IS, MAKE DECISIONS. I THINK THAT THERE ARE 315 00:09:52,025 --> 00:09:53,291 I THINK THAT THERE ARE INHERENTLY A FEW THAT SUPPORT 316 00:09:53,293 --> 00:09:54,893 INHERENTLY A FEW THAT SUPPORT IT, AND THERE'S INHERENTLY SOME 317 00:09:54,895 --> 00:09:57,062 IT, AND THERE'S INHERENTLY SOME WHO DON'T SUPPORT IT. 318 00:09:57,064 --> 00:09:58,863 WHO DON'T SUPPORT IT. I THINK MOST EVERYBODY WANTS TO 319 00:09:58,865 --> 00:10:01,066 I THINK MOST EVERYBODY WANTS TO GIVE A CHANCE TO READ WHAT'S IN 320 00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:04,135 GIVE A CHANCE TO READ WHAT'S IN THE BILL, AND THEN WE CAN ASK 321 00:10:04,137 --> 00:10:05,437 THE BILL, AND THEN WE CAN ASK EVEN MORE QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW 322 00:10:05,439 --> 00:10:05,804 EVEN MORE QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW IT WORKS. 323 00:10:05,806 --> 00:10:09,975 IT WORKS. >> I'M SUPPORTIVE. 324 00:10:09,977 --> 00:10:12,377 >> I'M SUPPORTIVE. AS LONG AS THERE'S NO STRINGS 325 00:10:12,379 --> 00:10:12,978 AS LONG AS THERE'S NO STRINGS ATTACHED. 326 00:10:12,980 --> 00:10:14,913 ATTACHED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT 327 00:10:14,915 --> 00:10:17,082 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT COMES AS A SINGLE ISSUE EITHER 328 00:10:17,084 --> 00:10:19,017 COMES AS A SINGLE ISSUE EITHER IN THE BUDGET OR A DIFFERENT 329 00:10:19,019 --> 00:10:19,317 IN THE BUDGET OR A DIFFERENT BILL. 330 00:10:19,319 --> 00:10:21,152 BILL. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY STRINGS? 331 00:10:21,154 --> 00:10:22,487 >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY STRINGS? WHAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM 332 00:10:22,489 --> 00:10:23,655 WHAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM SUPPORTING IT IN THE WAY OF 333 00:10:23,657 --> 00:10:24,489 SUPPORTING IT IN THE WAY OF STRINGS ATTACHED? 334 00:10:24,491 --> 00:10:25,924 STRINGS ATTACHED? >> WELL, JUST FROM HAVING BEEN 335 00:10:25,926 --> 00:10:27,359 >> WELL, JUST FROM HAVING BEEN DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL, IN 336 00:10:27,361 --> 00:10:30,428 DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL, IN ORDER TO GET VOTES, SOMETIMES 337 00:10:30,430 --> 00:10:31,763 ORDER TO GET VOTES, SOMETIMES THE GOVERNOR MAY HAVE TO OFFER 338 00:10:31,765 --> 00:10:32,464 THE GOVERNOR MAY HAVE TO OFFER CERTAIN PEOPLE SOMETHING FOR 339 00:10:32,466 --> 00:10:35,834 CERTAIN PEOPLE SOMETHING FOR THEIR VOTE. 340 00:10:35,836 --> 00:10:38,103 THEIR VOTE. AND IF IT'S THINGS THAT I 341 00:10:38,105 --> 00:10:41,039 AND IF IT'S THINGS THAT I WOULDN'T SUPPORT OR OUR CAUCUS 342 00:10:41,041 --> 00:10:43,708 WOULDN'T SUPPORT OR OUR CAUCUS WOULDN'T SUPPORT, SHE MAY LOSE 343 00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:44,009 WOULDN'T SUPPORT, SHE MAY LOSE VOTES. 344 00:10:44,011 --> 00:10:45,944 VOTES. SO SHE HAS TO WALK A TIGHTROPE 345 00:10:45,946 --> 00:10:46,244 SO SHE HAS TO WALK A TIGHTROPE HERE. 346 00:10:46,246 --> 00:10:46,978 HERE. AND IT'S A CHALLENGING POSITION 347 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:48,546 AND IT'S A CHALLENGING POSITION TO BE IN. 348 00:10:48,548 --> 00:10:50,281 TO BE IN. TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED. 349 00:10:50,283 --> 00:10:52,951 TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED. >> AND YOUR CASE FOR IT BEING A 350 00:10:52,953 --> 00:10:55,687 >> AND YOUR CASE FOR IT BEING A VIABLE OPTION FOR ARIZONA? 351 00:10:55,689 --> 00:10:56,454 VIABLE OPTION FOR ARIZONA? >> TWO REASONS. 352 00:10:56,456 --> 00:10:58,523 >> TWO REASONS. I MEAN, FIRST, IT'S ECONOMIC 353 00:10:58,525 --> 00:10:58,923 I MEAN, FIRST, IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 354 00:10:58,925 --> 00:11:00,759 DEVELOPMENT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE 355 00:11:00,761 --> 00:11:02,560 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE INFLUX OF MONEY, 2 PLUS BILLION 356 00:11:02,562 --> 00:11:03,561 INFLUX OF MONEY, 2 PLUS BILLION DOLLARS COMING INTO THE ECONOMY 357 00:11:03,563 --> 00:11:04,329 DOLLARS COMING INTO THE ECONOMY HERE IN THE STATE. 358 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:06,264 HERE IN THE STATE. THAT'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF 359 00:11:06,266 --> 00:11:06,564 THAT'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS. 360 00:11:06,566 --> 00:11:07,866 JOBS. AND YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT 361 00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:09,401 AND YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING COVERAGE FOR 300,000 362 00:11:09,403 --> 00:11:10,568 EXPANDING COVERAGE FOR 300,000 PLUS PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE. 363 00:11:10,570 --> 00:11:11,870 PLUS PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE. PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT COVERAGE 364 00:11:11,872 --> 00:11:13,004 PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT COVERAGE WHO THEN ONCE THEY GET THAT 365 00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:13,705 WHO THEN ONCE THEY GET THAT COVERAGE CAN GET BACK TO WORK 366 00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:15,507 COVERAGE CAN GET BACK TO WORK AND BE MORE PRODUCTIVE. 367 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:16,641 AND BE MORE PRODUCTIVE. >> YOUR STAND ON THE GOVERNOR'S 368 00:11:16,643 --> 00:11:18,710 >> YOUR STAND ON THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID EXPANSION PLAN? 369 00:11:18,712 --> 00:11:20,779 MEDICAID EXPANSION PLAN? >> WELL, CLEARLY THE PEOPLE HAVE 370 00:11:20,781 --> 00:11:21,112 >> WELL, CLEARLY THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. 371 00:11:21,114 --> 00:11:22,814 SPOKEN. AND THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION 372 00:11:22,816 --> 00:11:25,150 AND THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT 373 00:11:25,152 --> 00:11:26,685 MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THEY WANT FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR 374 00:11:26,687 --> 00:11:27,385 THEY WANT FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR HEALTH CARE. 375 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:29,754 HEALTH CARE. IN FACT, MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR 376 00:11:29,756 --> 00:11:31,256 IN FACT, MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HEALTH CARE AND AGAINST 377 00:11:31,258 --> 00:11:32,724 HEALTH CARE AND AGAINST OBAMACARE THAN VOTED FOR PROP 378 00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:32,991 OBAMACARE THAN VOTED FOR PROP 204. 379 00:11:32,993 --> 00:11:35,160 204. >> THE GOVERNOR CITES TWO VOTES 380 00:11:35,162 --> 00:11:37,729 >> THE GOVERNOR CITES TWO VOTES BY THE VOTERS IN ARIZONA TO 381 00:11:37,731 --> 00:11:39,998 BY THE VOTERS IN ARIZONA TO EXPAND MEDICAID, TO EXPAND 382 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,132 EXPAND MEDICAID, TO EXPAND ACCESS IN THE STATE. 383 00:11:41,134 --> 00:11:43,601 ACCESS IN THE STATE. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO IS THAT? 384 00:11:43,603 --> 00:11:44,436 HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO IS THAT? >> SHE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 385 00:11:44,438 --> 00:11:46,304 >> SHE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT SHE 386 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:47,372 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT SHE DID NOT TELL YOU IS THAT THAT 387 00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:48,506 DID NOT TELL YOU IS THAT THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE SUED PEOPLE LIKE 388 00:11:48,508 --> 00:11:49,974 GROUP OF PEOPLE SUED PEOPLE LIKE ME IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO 389 00:11:49,976 --> 00:11:50,408 ME IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO CHANGED THAT. 390 00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:52,110 CHANGED THAT. THEY LOST IN COURT. 391 00:11:52,112 --> 00:11:57,348 THEY LOST IN COURT. THE ARIZONA TRIAL COURT, THE 392 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:58,116 THE ARIZONA TRIAL COURT, THE AA 393 00:11:58,118 --> 00:11:58,783 AA APPELLATE COURT AND SUPREME 394 00:11:58,785 --> 00:12:01,453 APPELLATE COURT AND SUPREME COURT REFUSED TO HEAR THE CASE, 395 00:12:01,455 --> 00:12:02,887 COURT REFUSED TO HEAR THE CASE, WHICH SAID FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR 396 00:12:02,889 --> 00:12:03,354 WHICH SAID FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR HEALTH CARE. 397 00:12:03,356 --> 00:12:05,390 HEALTH CARE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE 398 00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:06,357 IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE APPELLATE COURT OF ARIZONA SAID 399 00:12:06,359 --> 00:12:07,826 APPELLATE COURT OF ARIZONA SAID IT'S UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO 400 00:12:07,828 --> 00:12:09,060 IT'S UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO DETERMINE WHERE TO SPEND THE 401 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:10,929 DETERMINE WHERE TO SPEND THE PUBLIC'S MONEY, NOT THE COURTS. 402 00:12:10,931 --> 00:12:13,865 PUBLIC'S MONEY, NOT THE COURTS. SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S THE 403 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:14,933 SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S THE ABSOLUTE WHEELHOUSE OF THE 404 00:12:14,935 --> 00:12:15,667 ABSOLUTE WHEELHOUSE OF THE LEGISLATURE TO APPROPRIATE THE 405 00:12:15,669 --> 00:12:16,835 LEGISLATURE TO APPROPRIATE THE MONIES OF THE STATE. 406 00:12:16,837 --> 00:12:17,569 MONIES OF THE STATE. AND FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE 407 00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:19,137 AND FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. 408 00:12:19,139 --> 00:12:20,238 MONEY. CONGRESSMAN RYAN HAS MADE IT 409 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,539 CONGRESSMAN RYAN HAS MADE IT CLEAR AS OF THIS LAST SUNDAY 410 00:12:21,541 --> 00:12:22,240 CLEAR AS OF THIS LAST SUNDAY THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO 411 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:23,842 THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO FUND IT IN THE BUDGET. 412 00:12:23,844 --> 00:12:25,844 FUND IT IN THE BUDGET. SO WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A 413 00:12:25,846 --> 00:12:27,278 SO WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR BE TALKING 414 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,947 REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR BE TALKING ABOUT A DEFUNDED DEMOCRAT HEALTH 415 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:29,314 ABOUT A DEFUNDED DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN? 416 00:12:29,316 --> 00:12:31,316 CARE PLAN? I DON'T GET IT. 417 00:12:31,318 --> 00:12:32,150 I DON'T GET IT. IT'S DEFUNDED. 418 00:12:32,152 --> 00:12:33,485 IT'S DEFUNDED. THE COURTS HAVE SAID WE DON'T 419 00:12:33,487 --> 00:12:34,419 THE COURTS HAVE SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. 420 00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:35,920 HAVE TO DO IT. THE U.S. SUPREME COURT, 421 00:12:35,922 --> 00:12:37,188 THE U.S. SUPREME COURT, MOREOVER, HAS SAID IT'S 422 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:37,555 MOREOVER, HAS SAID IT'S OPTIONAL. 423 00:12:37,557 --> 00:12:38,790 OPTIONAL. SO FOR THE GOVERNOR TO RUN INTO 424 00:12:38,792 --> 00:12:40,024 SO FOR THE GOVERNOR TO RUN INTO AN OPTION THAT'S GOING TO RUN US 425 00:12:40,026 --> 00:12:41,126 AN OPTION THAT'S GOING TO RUN US INTO DEBT AND BANKRUPT THIS 426 00:12:41,128 --> 00:12:42,527 INTO DEBT AND BANKRUPT THIS STATE AND EVERY STATE IN THE 427 00:12:42,529 --> 00:12:45,497 STATE AND EVERY STATE IN THE UNION THAT DOES IT, GIVEN THAT 428 00:12:45,499 --> 00:12:46,264 UNION THAT DOES IT, GIVEN THAT FLORIDA HAS ALREADY SAID NO, 429 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:47,632 FLORIDA HAS ALREADY SAID NO, UTAH HAS SAID NO, AND I HOPE 430 00:12:47,634 --> 00:12:49,167 UTAH HAS SAID NO, AND I HOPE MANY MORE STATES SAY NO. 431 00:12:49,169 --> 00:12:50,602 MANY MORE STATES SAY NO. >> AS AN EMERGENCY ROOM 432 00:12:50,604 --> 00:12:53,071 >> AS AN EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN, YOU SAID YOU'VE 433 00:12:53,073 --> 00:12:54,005 PHYSICIAN, YOU SAID YOU'VE EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE DOWN 434 00:12:54,007 --> 00:12:55,640 EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE DOWN SIDE OF THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH 435 00:12:55,642 --> 00:12:56,708 SIDE OF THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T 436 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:58,476 COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT OTHERWISE. 437 00:12:58,478 --> 00:12:59,844 AFFORD IT OTHERWISE. DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC 438 00:12:59,846 --> 00:13:00,545 DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC EXPERIENCES YOU COULD TELL US 439 00:13:00,547 --> 00:13:01,746 EXPERIENCES YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT IN THAT REGARD? 440 00:13:01,748 --> 00:13:05,416 ABOUT IN THAT REGARD? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. 441 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:07,018 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. NOT ONLY PRACTICE BUT I RAN A 442 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:09,587 NOT ONLY PRACTICE BUT I RAN A LARGE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. 443 00:13:09,589 --> 00:13:10,855 LARGE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. WE HAD LOTS OF PATIENTS THAT 444 00:13:10,857 --> 00:13:13,458 WE HAD LOTS OF PATIENTS THAT CAME IN, WHETHER -- I MEAN, AND 445 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:14,926 CAME IN, WHETHER -- I MEAN, AND YOU CAN USE MENTAL HEALTH 446 00:13:14,928 --> 00:13:15,794 YOU CAN USE MENTAL HEALTH PATIENTS AS AN EXAMPLE. 447 00:13:15,796 --> 00:13:18,630 PATIENTS AS AN EXAMPLE. BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE 448 00:13:18,632 --> 00:13:20,098 BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE LONG-TERM CARE WHERE THEY'RE ON 449 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,000 LONG-TERM CARE WHERE THEY'RE ON THEIR MEDS AND GET SOME 450 00:13:22,002 --> 00:13:23,535 THEIR MEDS AND GET SOME FOLLOW-UP, THEY END UP COMING TO 451 00:13:23,537 --> 00:13:25,370 FOLLOW-UP, THEY END UP COMING TO THE ER OFF THEIR MEDICATIONS. 452 00:13:25,372 --> 00:13:26,805 THE ER OFF THEIR MEDICATIONS. A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE BROUGHT 453 00:13:26,807 --> 00:13:29,140 A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE BROUGHT IN BY POLICE OFFICERS. 454 00:13:29,142 --> 00:13:31,209 IN BY POLICE OFFICERS. AND WE HAVE TO ADMIT THEM TO GET 455 00:13:31,211 --> 00:13:32,877 AND WE HAVE TO ADMIT THEM TO GET THEM BACK UNDER CONTROL, GET 456 00:13:32,879 --> 00:13:34,512 THEM BACK UNDER CONTROL, GET THEM ON THEIR MEDS. 457 00:13:34,514 --> 00:13:35,814 THEM ON THEIR MEDS. IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. 458 00:13:35,816 --> 00:13:36,481 IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. AND THEN WE HAVE TO FIND 459 00:13:36,483 --> 00:13:38,416 AND THEN WE HAVE TO FIND PLACEMENT FOR THEM. 460 00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:40,985 PLACEMENT FOR THEM. AND IF WE DON'T KEEP THEM ON 461 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:42,420 AND IF WE DON'T KEEP THEM ON THEIR REGULAR MEDICATIONS, WHICH 462 00:13:42,422 --> 00:13:44,823 THEIR REGULAR MEDICATIONS, WHICH IS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, WE 463 00:13:44,825 --> 00:13:47,992 IS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, WE END UP INCURRING THESE LARGE 464 00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:48,293 END UP INCURRING THESE LARGE COSTS. 465 00:13:48,295 --> 00:13:50,628 COSTS. AND THEY'RE ALL COVERED EITHER 466 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:52,897 AND THEY'RE ALL COVERED EITHER BY THE HOSPITAL AS UNCOMPENSATED 467 00:13:52,899 --> 00:13:54,632 BY THE HOSPITAL AS UNCOMPENSATED CARE AND THE PHYSICIANS AS 468 00:13:54,634 --> 00:13:55,166 CARE AND THE PHYSICIANS AS UNCOMPENSATED CARE. 469 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:56,835 UNCOMPENSATED CARE. >> SO HOW DO WE PROVIDE HEALTH 470 00:13:56,837 --> 00:13:58,403 >> SO HOW DO WE PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR THOSE WHO DO NEED IT? 471 00:13:58,405 --> 00:13:59,938 CARE FOR THOSE WHO DO NEED IT? >> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO THE 472 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:01,272 >> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO THE PATH TO PROSPERITY. 473 00:14:01,274 --> 00:14:04,175 PATH TO PROSPERITY. YOU KNOW, ARIZONA, I FULLY 474 00:14:04,177 --> 00:14:06,010 YOU KNOW, ARIZONA, I FULLY EXPECT TO GO THE SAME WAY THAT 475 00:14:06,012 --> 00:14:09,747 EXPECT TO GO THE SAME WAY THAT THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS DONE 476 00:14:09,749 --> 00:14:11,316 THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS DONE IN BUCKING A GOVERNOR WHO 477 00:14:11,318 --> 00:14:12,851 IN BUCKING A GOVERNOR WHO SUPPORTS OBAMACARE, THE 478 00:14:12,853 --> 00:14:14,285 SUPPORTS OBAMACARE, THE LEGISLATURE WILL STAND STRONG 479 00:14:14,287 --> 00:14:16,087 LEGISLATURE WILL STAND STRONG FOR THE TAXPAYER, AND WE WILL 480 00:14:16,089 --> 00:14:17,789 FOR THE TAXPAYER, AND WE WILL PUSH FOR FREE MARKET REFORMS 481 00:14:17,791 --> 00:14:19,090 PUSH FOR FREE MARKET REFORMS WHEREAS IF YOU WANT BIG 482 00:14:19,092 --> 00:14:21,092 WHEREAS IF YOU WANT BIG GOVERNMENT, GO TO CALIFORNIA. 483 00:14:21,094 --> 00:14:24,529 GOVERNMENT, GO TO CALIFORNIA. IF YOU WANT PROSPERITY, COME TO 484 00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:24,863 IF YOU WANT PROSPERITY, COME TO ARIZONA. 485 00:14:24,865 --> 00:14:25,797 ARIZONA. THAT'S THROUGH JOBS. 486 00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:28,466 THAT'S THROUGH JOBS. >> IN SPECIFIC TERMS, HOW DOES 487 00:14:28,468 --> 00:14:30,034 >> IN SPECIFIC TERMS, HOW DOES SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT NOW HAVE 488 00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:31,135 SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT NOW HAVE HEALTH CARE AND IS NOT NOW 489 00:14:31,137 --> 00:14:33,071 HEALTH CARE AND IS NOT NOW COVERED BY ACCESS OR MEDICAID 490 00:14:33,073 --> 00:14:36,774 COVERED BY ACCESS OR MEDICAID GET IT IN ARIZONA THROUGH YOUR 491 00:14:36,776 --> 00:14:37,075 GET IT IN ARIZONA THROUGH YOUR PATH? 492 00:14:37,077 --> 00:14:38,910 PATH? >> OUR PATH SAYS SMALL GROUPS, 493 00:14:38,912 --> 00:14:40,545 >> OUR PATH SAYS SMALL GROUPS, SMALL BUSINESSES CAN GROUP 494 00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:41,913 SMALL BUSINESSES CAN GROUP TOGETHER AND HAVE BETTER 495 00:14:41,915 --> 00:14:43,548 TOGETHER AND HAVE BETTER PURCHASING POWER FOR THEIR OWN 496 00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:44,515 PURCHASING POWER FOR THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE. 497 00:14:44,517 --> 00:14:46,150 HEALTH CARE. WE BELIEVE IN TORT REFORM TO 498 00:14:46,152 --> 00:14:48,086 WE BELIEVE IN TORT REFORM TO LIMIT OUTRAGEOUS LAWSUITS, 499 00:14:48,088 --> 00:14:51,289 LIMIT OUTRAGEOUS LAWSUITS, LOWERING THE COST OF HEALTH CARE 500 00:14:51,291 --> 00:14:52,724 LOWERING THE COST OF HEALTH CARE AS WELL AS HEALTH SAVINGS 501 00:14:52,726 --> 00:14:54,726 AS WELL AS HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO 502 00:14:54,728 --> 00:14:56,060 ACCOUNTS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO UNFORTUNATELY MIGHT LOSE THEIR 503 00:14:56,062 --> 00:14:57,128 UNFORTUNATELY MIGHT LOSE THEIR JOB ARE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR 504 00:14:57,130 --> 00:15:00,064 JOB ARE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR HEALTH CARE ALONG WITH THEM. 505 00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:01,232 HEALTH CARE ALONG WITH THEM. THIS FREE MARKET PATH IS A FAR 506 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:02,967 THIS FREE MARKET PATH IS A FAR BETTER LONG-TERM SOLUTION. 507 00:15:02,969 --> 00:15:06,004 BETTER LONG-TERM SOLUTION. >> BREWER'S BATTLE WILL BE 508 00:15:06,006 --> 00:15:07,305 >> BREWER'S BATTLE WILL BE DOOR-TO-DOOR COMBAT IN THE HALLS 509 00:15:07,307 --> 00:15:08,840 DOOR-TO-DOOR COMBAT IN THE HALLS OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. 510 00:15:08,842 --> 00:15:09,841 OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. WE ASKED LEGISLATORS WHAT THEY 511 00:15:09,843 --> 00:15:11,809 WE ASKED LEGISLATORS WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THE CHANCES. 512 00:15:11,811 --> 00:15:12,944 THOUGHT OF THE CHANCES. GOVERNOR BREWER IS REALLY 513 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:14,045 GOVERNOR BREWER IS REALLY CRANKING UP THE PRESSURE HERE. 514 00:15:14,047 --> 00:15:16,247 CRANKING UP THE PRESSURE HERE. SHE'S HAD A NUMBER OF RALLIES 515 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:17,148 SHE'S HAD A NUMBER OF RALLIES INCLUDING ONE HERE THIS WEEK ON 516 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:19,951 INCLUDING ONE HERE THIS WEEK ON THE CAPITOL LAWN. 517 00:15:19,953 --> 00:15:20,585 THE CAPITOL LAWN. WILL THAT BE RESISTED BY 518 00:15:20,587 --> 00:15:21,686 WILL THAT BE RESISTED BY REPUBLICANS? 519 00:15:21,688 --> 00:15:24,956 REPUBLICANS? >> IT ALREADY HAS BEEN. 520 00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:27,992 >> IT ALREADY HAS BEEN. I BELIEVE MOST, IF NOT EVERY, 521 00:15:27,994 --> 00:15:29,594 I BELIEVE MOST, IF NOT EVERY, COUNTY'S REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS 522 00:15:29,596 --> 00:15:32,096 COUNTY'S REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS COME OUT AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE 523 00:15:32,098 --> 00:15:32,463 COME OUT AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE EXPANSION. 524 00:15:32,465 --> 00:15:34,032 EXPANSION. THEY'RE AGAINST OBAMACARE. 525 00:15:34,034 --> 00:15:35,600 THEY'RE AGAINST OBAMACARE. AND FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT BUYING 526 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:36,968 AND FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT BUYING WHAT SHE'S SELLING. 527 00:15:36,970 --> 00:15:38,670 WHAT SHE'S SELLING. SHE IS SELLING EMPTY PROMISES 528 00:15:38,672 --> 00:15:40,438 SHE IS SELLING EMPTY PROMISES FROM WASHINGTON, THOSE WHO ARE 529 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,907 FROM WASHINGTON, THOSE WHO ARE SUPPORTING OBAMACARE ARE 530 00:15:42,909 --> 00:15:44,442 SUPPORTING OBAMACARE ARE SUPPORTING FURTHERING BUDGET 531 00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:46,311 SUPPORTING FURTHERING BUDGET DEFICITS, PUTTING ARIZONA ON THE 532 00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:48,079 DEFICITS, PUTTING ARIZONA ON THE SAME PATH OF FISCAL CLIFF THAT 533 00:15:48,081 --> 00:15:50,481 SAME PATH OF FISCAL CLIFF THAT THE COUNTRY HAS AS A WHOLE. 534 00:15:50,483 --> 00:15:52,050 THE COUNTRY HAS AS A WHOLE. WE LOOK TOWARD REAL SOLUTIONS 535 00:15:52,052 --> 00:15:53,217 WE LOOK TOWARD REAL SOLUTIONS AND LONG-TERM PROSPERITY TO 536 00:15:53,219 --> 00:15:54,786 AND LONG-TERM PROSPERITY TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. 537 00:15:54,788 --> 00:15:56,087 SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. >> AND DO YOU THINK IT HAS A 538 00:15:56,089 --> 00:15:57,488 >> AND DO YOU THINK IT HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF PASSAGE IN THE 539 00:15:57,490 --> 00:15:59,490 GOOD CHANCE OF PASSAGE IN THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE? 540 00:15:59,492 --> 00:16:00,925 SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE? >> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE 541 00:16:00,927 --> 00:16:02,460 >> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING THAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE 542 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:03,428 SAYING THAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE STORY YET. 543 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:05,096 THE WHOLE STORY YET. AND I THINK ONCE THEY GET THE 544 00:16:05,098 --> 00:16:06,030 AND I THINK ONCE THEY GET THE WHOLE STORY, WE'LL WIN SOME OF 545 00:16:06,032 --> 00:16:06,597 WHOLE STORY, WE'LL WIN SOME OF THEM OVER. 546 00:16:06,599 --> 00:16:08,099 THEM OVER. I THINK WE CAN GET IT PASSED. 547 00:16:08,101 --> 00:16:09,767 I THINK WE CAN GET IT PASSED. I KNOW WE CAN GET IT PASSED. 548 00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:11,970 I KNOW WE CAN GET IT PASSED. THE GOVERNOR HAS A VETO PIN, AND 549 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:13,604 THE GOVERNOR HAS A VETO PIN, AND SHE CAN SIT UP THERE ALL SUMMER 550 00:16:13,606 --> 00:16:14,739 SHE CAN SIT UP THERE ALL SUMMER IF SHE WANTS UNTIL SHE GETS WHAT 551 00:16:14,741 --> 00:16:16,407 IF SHE WANTS UNTIL SHE GETS WHAT SHE WANTS. 552 00:16:16,409 --> 00:16:17,542 SHE WANTS. THE RIGHT THING WOULD BE TO GET 553 00:16:17,544 --> 00:16:19,077 THE RIGHT THING WOULD BE TO GET ALL THE FACTS, LET EVERYBODY 554 00:16:19,079 --> 00:16:20,645 ALL THE FACTS, LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE FACTS, AND THEN MOVE 555 00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:21,980 KNOW THE FACTS, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, AND I THINK WE 556 00:16:21,982 --> 00:16:22,613 FORWARD WITH IT, AND I THINK WE CAN DO IT. 557 00:16:22,615 --> 00:16:23,481 CAN DO IT. >> I WISH I HAD THE CRYSTAL 558 00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:26,284 >> I WISH I HAD THE CRYSTAL BALL. 559 00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:27,952 BALL. I HAVE MY FINGERS CROSSED. 560 00:16:27,954 --> 00:16:29,754 I HAVE MY FINGERS CROSSED. I HAVE MY EYES CROSSED, MY TOES 561 00:16:29,756 --> 00:16:30,355 I HAVE MY EYES CROSSED, MY TOES ARE CROSSED ON THIS ONE. 562 00:16:30,357 --> 00:16:32,890 ARE CROSSED ON THIS ONE. I REALLY HOPE SO. 563 00:16:32,892 --> 00:16:33,958 I REALLY HOPE SO. I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD AS A 564 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,760 I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD AS A STATE TO NOT PASS IT. 565 00:16:35,762 --> 00:16:38,029 STATE TO NOT PASS IT. IT'S CRITICAL. 566 00:16:38,031 --> 00:16:39,197 IT'S CRITICAL. IT TRULY IS CRITICAL. 567 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:40,631 IT TRULY IS CRITICAL. >> THIS IS MY THIRD TERM DOWN AT 568 00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:41,499 >> THIS IS MY THIRD TERM DOWN AT THE CAPITOL NOW. 569 00:16:41,501 --> 00:16:43,167 THE CAPITOL NOW. AND WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN, I 570 00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:44,902 AND WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN, I HAD BEEN ON A SCHOOL BOARD AND 571 00:16:44,904 --> 00:16:47,138 HAD BEEN ON A SCHOOL BOARD AND COME DOWN HERE LOBBYING. 572 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:48,706 COME DOWN HERE LOBBYING. BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS YOU CAN 573 00:16:48,708 --> 00:16:49,774 BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS YOU CAN NEVER PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO 574 00:16:49,776 --> 00:16:52,143 NEVER PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL. 575 00:16:52,145 --> 00:16:52,877 HAPPEN DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL. MY HOPE IS THAT WE MAKE A 576 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,080 MY HOPE IS THAT WE MAKE A SENSIBLE DECISION. 577 00:16:56,082 --> 00:16:57,382 SENSIBLE DECISION. THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR 578 00:16:57,384 --> 00:16:58,416 THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR STATE IF WE DO EXPAND ACCESS TO 579 00:16:58,418 --> 00:17:00,251 STATE IF WE DO EXPAND ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. 580 00:17:00,253 --> 00:17:01,352 HEALTH CARE. >> HANDICAP THE RESULTS HERE. 581 00:17:01,354 --> 00:17:03,354 >> HANDICAP THE RESULTS HERE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? 582 00:17:03,356 --> 00:17:04,155 WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> IT'S STILL TOUGH. 583 00:17:04,157 --> 00:17:05,990 >> IT'S STILL TOUGH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GIVE 584 00:17:05,992 --> 00:17:07,358 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GIVE GOVERNOR BREWER CREDIT FOR 585 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:08,826 GOVERNOR BREWER CREDIT FOR COMING OUT EARLY ON IN SESSION 586 00:17:08,828 --> 00:17:10,395 COMING OUT EARLY ON IN SESSION FROM DAY ONE, ACTUALLY, SAYING 587 00:17:10,397 --> 00:17:12,296 FROM DAY ONE, ACTUALLY, SAYING WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT SHE 588 00:17:12,298 --> 00:17:13,398 WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY SUPPORT 589 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,066 DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY SUPPORT YET FROM HER GOP CAUCUS IN 590 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:16,567 YET FROM HER GOP CAUCUS IN EITHER THE SENATE OR THE HOUSE. 591 00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:18,669 EITHER THE SENATE OR THE HOUSE. SO I'D SAY IT'S STILL TENUOUS. 592 00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:20,138 SO I'D SAY IT'S STILL TENUOUS. IT'S PROBABLY 50/50. 593 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:21,339 IT'S PROBABLY 50/50. IT COULD GO EITHER WAY AT THIS 594 00:17:21,341 --> 00:17:21,639 IT COULD GO EITHER WAY AT THIS POINT. 595 00:17:21,641 --> 00:17:23,341 POINT. >> WELL, THE PEOPLE DESERVE A 596 00:17:23,343 --> 00:17:25,410 >> WELL, THE PEOPLE DESERVE A THING CALLED PROP 108. 597 00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:28,913 THING CALLED PROP 108. WHICH IF THE FEES ON THE TAXES 598 00:17:28,915 --> 00:17:30,982 WHICH IF THE FEES ON THE TAXES OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE 599 00:17:30,984 --> 00:17:32,183 OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGED, THE PEOPLE REQUIRE A 600 00:17:32,185 --> 00:17:33,618 CHANGED, THE PEOPLE REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE 601 00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:35,820 SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE LEGISLATURE, THAT'S 40 AND 20. 602 00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:37,388 LEGISLATURE, THAT'S 40 AND 20. THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO SLIP 603 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:39,057 THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO SLIP SLEW A LOOPHOLE AND PUT THIS BED 604 00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:40,358 SLEW A LOOPHOLE AND PUT THIS BED TAX IN PLACE PROBABLY WITHOUT A 605 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,559 TAX IN PLACE PROBABLY WITHOUT A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. 606 00:17:41,561 --> 00:17:42,927 SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. ONCE AGAIN, WE STILL NEED TO SEE 607 00:17:42,929 --> 00:17:43,461 ONCE AGAIN, WE STILL NEED TO SEE THE BILL. 608 00:17:43,463 --> 00:17:45,129 THE BILL. IT'S STILL NOT IN MY HANDS YET. 609 00:17:45,131 --> 00:17:47,398 IT'S STILL NOT IN MY HANDS YET. >> SHE'S CALLING IT A FEE, NOT A 610 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,665 >> SHE'S CALLING IT A FEE, NOT A TAX. 611 00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:49,734 TAX. WOULD THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE? 612 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:50,435 WOULD THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE? >> NO. 613 00:17:50,437 --> 00:17:52,070 >> NO. IN FACT, PROP 108 SAYS ANY 614 00:17:52,072 --> 00:17:53,638 IN FACT, PROP 108 SAYS ANY INCREASE IN REVENUE, IT REALLY 615 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,105 INCREASE IN REVENUE, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. 616 00:17:54,107 --> 00:17:56,107 DOESN'T MATTER. >> YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY 617 00:17:56,109 --> 00:17:56,808 >> YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY PRETEND TO BE CLAIRVOYANT ON 618 00:17:56,810 --> 00:17:57,809 PRETEND TO BE CLAIRVOYANT ON THAT. 619 00:17:57,811 --> 00:17:59,544 THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE STILL EARLY ENOUGH 620 00:17:59,546 --> 00:18:02,580 I MEAN, WE'RE STILL EARLY ENOUGH IN THE PROCESS ON THIS SPECIFIC 621 00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:05,016 IN THE PROCESS ON THIS SPECIFIC BILL, AND I STILL THINK THERE'S 622 00:18:05,018 --> 00:18:06,284 BILL, AND I STILL THINK THERE'S TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A 623 00:18:06,286 --> 00:18:07,185 TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF PUSH 624 00:18:07,187 --> 00:18:08,886 LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF PUSH AND PULL ON THIS. 625 00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:10,488 AND PULL ON THIS. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THIS 626 00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:15,626 I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THIS BILL COMES OUT AS IT'S BEEN -- 627 00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:16,694 BILL COMES OUT AS IT'S BEEN -- IT WASN'T INTRODUCED, BUT IT WAS 628 00:18:16,696 --> 00:18:19,330 IT WASN'T INTRODUCED, BUT IT WAS PRESENTED TODAY TO THE PUBLIC. 629 00:18:19,332 --> 00:18:20,131 PRESENTED TODAY TO THE PUBLIC. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE 630 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:21,699 I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME AMENDMENTS 631 00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:24,535 GOING TO SEE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT GO ON THIS THING WHICH 632 00:18:24,537 --> 00:18:25,236 THAT GO ON THIS THING WHICH MIGHT BRING SOME ON AND PUSH 633 00:18:25,238 --> 00:18:26,804 MIGHT BRING SOME ON AND PUSH SOME OFF. 634 00:18:26,806 --> 00:18:28,639 SOME OFF. IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO 635 00:18:28,641 --> 00:18:30,374 IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT AND HANDICAP THAT RIGHT 636 00:18:30,376 --> 00:18:30,641 PREDICT AND HANDICAP THAT RIGHT NOW. 637 00:18:30,643 --> 00:18:32,110 NOW. >> WE'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OF YOUR 638 00:18:32,112 --> 00:18:33,744 >> WE'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE. 639 00:18:33,746 --> 00:18:34,445 COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE. AND THEY ARE DEAD SET AGAINST 640 00:18:34,447 --> 00:18:35,847 AND THEY ARE DEAD SET AGAINST THIS. 641 00:18:35,849 --> 00:18:36,514 THIS. HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GET IT 642 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:38,082 HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GET IT THROUGH? 643 00:18:38,084 --> 00:18:39,917 THROUGH? >> WELL, I THINK THAT THERE ARE 644 00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:41,586 >> WELL, I THINK THAT THERE ARE 90 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE, 645 00:18:41,588 --> 00:18:42,587 90 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE, IN THE HOUSE SPECIFICALLY WE 646 00:18:42,589 --> 00:18:44,088 IN THE HOUSE SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE 60. 647 00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:45,189 HAVE 60. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON 648 00:18:45,191 --> 00:18:46,457 AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, MEETING WITH 649 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:47,725 RIGHT NOW, MEETING WITH DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES. 650 00:18:47,727 --> 00:18:49,427 DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES. AS WITH ANY BILL, THERE WILL BE 651 00:18:49,429 --> 00:18:50,461 AS WITH ANY BILL, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR IT AND 652 00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:51,662 PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR IT AND PEOPLE THAT VOTE AGAINST IT. 653 00:18:51,664 --> 00:18:53,197 PEOPLE THAT VOTE AGAINST IT. SO AS WE INTRODUCE THE LANGUAGE 654 00:18:53,199 --> 00:18:55,099 SO AS WE INTRODUCE THE LANGUAGE AND GO THROUGH A SERIES OF 655 00:18:55,101 --> 00:18:56,267 AND GO THROUGH A SERIES OF EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIONAL 656 00:18:56,269 --> 00:18:57,935 EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIONAL HEARINGS AND MEETINGS, I THINK 657 00:18:57,937 --> 00:18:59,537 HEARINGS AND MEETINGS, I THINK THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL ALSO 658 00:18:59,539 --> 00:19:01,239 THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL ALSO SEE -- DRAW THE SAME CONCLUSION. 659 00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:03,007 SEE -- DRAW THE SAME CONCLUSION. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, 660 00:19:03,009 --> 00:19:04,575 I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE GOVERNOR HAS A GREAT TRACK 661 00:19:04,577 --> 00:19:04,909 THE GOVERNOR HAS A GREAT TRACK RECORD. 662 00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:06,577 RECORD. WITH HAD SHE PUTS AN IDEA 663 00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:07,612 WITH HAD SHE PUTS AN IDEA FORWARD, WE ABSOLUTELY GET IT 664 00:19:07,614 --> 00:19:07,912 FORWARD, WE ABSOLUTELY GET IT DONE. 665 00:19:07,914 --> 00:19:09,080 DONE. WILL IT BE EASY? 666 00:19:09,082 --> 00:19:09,347 WILL IT BE EASY? NO. 667 00:19:09,349 --> 00:19:10,381 NO. BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT I THINK 668 00:19:10,383 --> 00:19:11,749 BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'LL GET DONE AT THE END OF THE 669 00:19:11,751 --> 00:19:12,083 WE'LL GET DONE AT THE END OF THE DAY? 670 00:19:12,085 --> 00:19:12,750 DAY? I BELIEVE SO. 671 00:19:12,752 --> 00:19:13,584 I BELIEVE SO. AND I HOPE SO FOR THE CITIZENS 672 00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:15,586 AND I HOPE SO FOR THE CITIZENS OF ARIZONA. 673 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:17,655 OF ARIZONA. >> AS WE'VE NOTED, THE GOVERNOR 674 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:18,556 >> AS WE'VE NOTED, THE GOVERNOR CAUGHT MANY BY SURPRISE IN 675 00:19:18,558 --> 00:19:20,858 CAUGHT MANY BY SURPRISE IN CALLING FOR MEDICAID EXPANSION. 676 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:21,559 CALLING FOR MEDICAID EXPANSION. WHAT'S BEHIND THAT AND WHAT'S 677 00:19:21,561 --> 00:19:23,161 WHAT'S BEHIND THAT AND WHAT'S HER MOTIVATION? 678 00:19:23,163 --> 00:19:25,129 HER MOTIVATION? TO GET A SENSE OF IT, I SPOKE 679 00:19:25,131 --> 00:19:27,732 TO GET A SENSE OF IT, I SPOKE WITH FERNANDO SANTOS, PHOENIX 680 00:19:27,734 --> 00:19:29,634 WITH FERNANDO SANTOS, PHOENIX BUREAU CHIEF OF "THE NEW YORK 681 00:19:29,636 --> 00:19:29,967 BUREAU CHIEF OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES." 682 00:19:29,969 --> 00:19:32,036 TIMES." SHE HAS REPORTED AND WRITTEN 683 00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:33,004 SHE HAS REPORTED AND WRITTEN EXTENSIVELY ABOUT BREWER AND 684 00:19:33,006 --> 00:19:34,071 EXTENSIVELY ABOUT BREWER AND STATE POLITICS INCLUDING A PIECE 685 00:19:34,073 --> 00:19:41,579 STATE POLITICS INCLUDING A PIECE ON MEDICAID JUST THIS WEEK. 686 00:19:41,581 --> 00:19:42,747 ON MEDICAID JUST THIS WEEK. FERNANDA, THANKS FOR SPEAKING 687 00:19:42,749 --> 00:19:43,414 FERNANDA, THANKS FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. 688 00:19:43,416 --> 00:19:44,081 WITH ME. >> MY PLEASURE. 689 00:19:44,083 --> 00:19:45,650 >> MY PLEASURE. >> IT'S NOT POLITICS AS USUAL IN 690 00:19:45,652 --> 00:19:47,318 >> IT'S NOT POLITICS AS USUAL IN ARIZONA RIGHT NOW WITH GOVERNOR 691 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,754 ARIZONA RIGHT NOW WITH GOVERNOR BREWER PUSHING FOR HER MEDICAID 692 00:19:49,756 --> 00:19:50,121 BREWER PUSHING FOR HER MEDICAID EXPANSION. 693 00:19:50,123 --> 00:19:50,755 EXPANSION. WHAT'S CAUSING THAT SHIFT? 694 00:19:50,757 --> 00:19:51,756 WHAT'S CAUSING THAT SHIFT? >> WELL, THE INTERESTING THING 695 00:19:51,758 --> 00:19:53,457 >> WELL, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT GOVERNOR BREWER IS THAT 696 00:19:53,459 --> 00:19:54,292 ABOUT GOVERNOR BREWER IS THAT SHE'S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE 697 00:19:54,294 --> 00:19:56,260 SHE'S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE POLITICIAN. 698 00:19:56,262 --> 00:19:58,763 POLITICIAN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE YEARS SHE 699 00:19:58,765 --> 00:20:00,765 IF YOU LOOK AT THE YEARS SHE SPENT IN STATE GOVERNMENT HERE, 700 00:20:00,767 --> 00:20:05,102 SPENT IN STATE GOVERNMENT HERE, LOOK BACK TO 2009, EARLY 2010, 701 00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:06,337 LOOK BACK TO 2009, EARLY 2010, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SHE PUSHED 702 00:20:06,339 --> 00:20:08,739 YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SHE PUSHED VERY HARD FOR THE TEMPORARY 703 00:20:08,741 --> 00:20:11,042 VERY HARD FOR THE TEMPORARY SALES TAX INCREASE HERE IN 704 00:20:11,044 --> 00:20:12,510 SALES TAX INCREASE HERE IN ARIZONA AS A WAY TO OFFSET SOME 705 00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:14,278 ARIZONA AS A WAY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE DEEP CUTS THEY HAD TO 706 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,146 OF THE DEEP CUTS THEY HAD TO MAKE ON THE BUDGET. 707 00:20:15,148 --> 00:20:16,581 MAKE ON THE BUDGET. AND THAT WAS A VERY UNPOPULAR 708 00:20:16,583 --> 00:20:18,382 AND THAT WAS A VERY UNPOPULAR MEASURE WITH REPUBLICANS. 709 00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:20,818 MEASURE WITH REPUBLICANS. SHE NONETHELESS KEPT GOING, TOOK 710 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:22,486 SHE NONETHELESS KEPT GOING, TOOK THE ISSUE TO THE VOTERS. 711 00:20:22,488 --> 00:20:24,021 THE ISSUE TO THE VOTERS. THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS SALES 712 00:20:24,023 --> 00:20:25,590 THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS SALES TAX INCREASE, AND WE HAVE IT IN 713 00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:28,025 TAX INCREASE, AND WE HAVE IT IN PLACE UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR. 714 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:29,894 PLACE UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR. AND SLEAHE'S DOING IT AGAIN RIG 715 00:20:29,896 --> 00:20:30,161 AND SLEAHE'S DOING IT AGAIN RIG NOW. 716 00:20:30,163 --> 00:20:31,762 NOW. SHE IS PUSHING A MEASURE, THE 717 00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:33,030 SHE IS PUSHING A MEASURE, THE EXPANSION OF MEDICAID, WHICH IS 718 00:20:33,032 --> 00:20:35,233 EXPANSION OF MEDICAID, WHICH IS VERY POPULAR WITH DEMOCRATS, 719 00:20:35,235 --> 00:20:35,800 VERY POPULAR WITH DEMOCRATS, HIGHLY UNPOPULAR WITH 720 00:20:35,802 --> 00:20:38,869 HIGHLY UNPOPULAR WITH REPUBLICANS. 721 00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:39,904 REPUBLICANS. AND IF SHE HAS GONE ALL OUT, 722 00:20:39,906 --> 00:20:41,239 AND IF SHE HAS GONE ALL OUT, SHE'S TRAVELED THE STATE. 723 00:20:41,241 --> 00:20:42,206 SHE'S TRAVELED THE STATE. SHE'S HELD EVENTS, RIGHT OUTSIDE 724 00:20:42,208 --> 00:20:44,442 SHE'S HELD EVENTS, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE CAPITOL. 725 00:20:44,444 --> 00:20:45,910 OF THE CAPITOL. AND SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET 726 00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:46,777 AND SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET THIS PASSED. 727 00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:50,548 THIS PASSED. SO IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A 728 00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:51,916 SO IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A TYPICAL REPUBLICAN REACTION, BUT 729 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:53,517 TYPICAL REPUBLICAN REACTION, BUT IT'S A REPUBLICAN REACTION BASED 730 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:55,319 IT'S A REPUBLICAN REACTION BASED ON THE FINANCIAL REALITIES OF 731 00:20:55,321 --> 00:20:56,520 ON THE FINANCIAL REALITIES OF THE STATE AS SHE PUT IT. 732 00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:59,056 THE STATE AS SHE PUT IT. >> SO THE FINANCIAL REALITIES, 733 00:20:59,058 --> 00:21:00,524 >> SO THE FINANCIAL REALITIES, ARE THEY THE MOTIVATION FOR HER? 734 00:21:00,526 --> 00:21:02,460 ARE THEY THE MOTIVATION FOR HER? >> WELL, THAT'S THE MAIN 735 00:21:02,462 --> 00:21:03,861 >> WELL, THAT'S THE MAIN MOTIVATION NOT ONLY FOR HER BUT 736 00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:05,062 MOTIVATION NOT ONLY FOR HER BUT FOR OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS 737 00:21:05,064 --> 00:21:06,297 FOR OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SAME 738 00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:06,764 WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SAME POSITION. 739 00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:09,500 POSITION. ONE OF THEM BEING THE NEIGHBOR 740 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:13,871 ONE OF THEM BEING THE NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST, NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR 741 00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:15,406 TO THE EAST, NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR SUSANA MARTINEZ, GOVERNOR DUVALL 742 00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:17,441 SUSANA MARTINEZ, GOVERNOR DUVALL OF NEVADA, OTHER GOVERNORS IN 743 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:18,542 OF NEVADA, OTHER GOVERNORS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE. 744 00:21:18,544 --> 00:21:20,711 DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE. THAT'S THE MAIN THING THEY 745 00:21:20,713 --> 00:21:21,545 THAT'S THE MAIN THING THEY MENTIONED HERE. 746 00:21:21,547 --> 00:21:22,813 MENTIONED HERE. BUT THE INTERESTING THING, IF 747 00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:24,782 BUT THE INTERESTING THING, IF YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF THE NATION, 748 00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:27,251 YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF THE NATION, AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE REPUBLICAN 749 00:21:27,253 --> 00:21:28,719 AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS STAND ON MEDICAID 750 00:21:28,721 --> 00:21:30,021 GOVERNORS STAND ON MEDICAID EXPANSION, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN 751 00:21:30,023 --> 00:21:32,189 EXPANSION, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE SOUTH, THERE IS OVERWHELMING 752 00:21:32,191 --> 00:21:33,391 THE SOUTH, THERE IS OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION TO THE EXPANSION 753 00:21:33,393 --> 00:21:35,126 OPPOSITION TO THE EXPANSION WHEREAS IN THE SOUTHWEST, THE 754 00:21:35,128 --> 00:21:35,960 WHEREAS IN THE SOUTHWEST, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ARE ALL IN 755 00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:37,928 REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT. 756 00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:40,131 FAVOR OF IT. YOU KNOW, ONE CANNOT OVERLOOK 757 00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:41,832 YOU KNOW, ONE CANNOT OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT IN THE SOUTHWEST, 758 00:21:41,834 --> 00:21:43,868 THE FACT THAT IN THE SOUTHWEST, THERE HAS BEEN A PROFOUND -- 759 00:21:43,870 --> 00:21:45,503 THERE HAS BEEN A PROFOUND -- THERE IS A PROFOUND 760 00:21:45,505 --> 00:21:47,238 THERE IS A PROFOUND TRANSFORMATION OCCURRING OF THE 761 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,039 TRANSFORMATION OCCURRING OF THE ELECTORATE HERE WITH THE 762 00:21:48,041 --> 00:21:50,207 ELECTORATE HERE WITH THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LATINO 763 00:21:50,209 --> 00:21:51,742 INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LATINO VOTERS WHO TEND TO BE 764 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:54,111 VOTERS WHO TEND TO BE DEMOCRAT -- OR ACTUALLY 765 00:21:54,113 --> 00:21:56,781 DEMOCRAT -- OR ACTUALLY OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS. 766 00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:59,583 OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS. ONE CANNOT FORGET THAT IF ANYONE 767 00:21:59,585 --> 00:22:01,118 ONE CANNOT FORGET THAT IF ANYONE HAS HIGHER ASPIRATIONS, 768 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:03,454 HAS HIGHER ASPIRATIONS, POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS HERE, HE 769 00:22:03,456 --> 00:22:04,588 POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS HERE, HE OR SHE CANNOT OVERLOOK THAT 770 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:06,090 OR SHE CANNOT OVERLOOK THAT PORTION OF THE ELECTORATE WHICH 771 00:22:06,092 --> 00:22:07,892 PORTION OF THE ELECTORATE WHICH HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE THE 772 00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:09,327 HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE THE SIZE OF ESPECIALLY IN THE 773 00:22:09,329 --> 00:22:10,561 SIZE OF ESPECIALLY IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IN NEVADA 774 00:22:10,563 --> 00:22:11,395 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IN NEVADA MORE SPECIFICALLY, IN HELPING 775 00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:13,764 MORE SPECIFICALLY, IN HELPING ELECT PRESIDENT OBAMA. 776 00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:16,200 ELECT PRESIDENT OBAMA. >> IS GOVERNOR BREWER SEEKING 777 00:22:16,202 --> 00:22:18,803 >> IS GOVERNOR BREWER SEEKING LEGACY HERE, OR DOES SHE HAVE 778 00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:19,937 LEGACY HERE, OR DOES SHE HAVE SOME HIGHER MOTIVATION FOR 779 00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:22,306 SOME HIGHER MOTIVATION FOR TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED? 780 00:22:22,308 --> 00:22:23,874 TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO 781 00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:25,576 >> WELL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING HER VERY 782 00:22:25,578 --> 00:22:28,212 HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING HER VERY CLOSELY WILL SAY THAT ONE OF HER 783 00:22:28,214 --> 00:22:30,081 CLOSELY WILL SAY THAT ONE OF HER INTERESTS IS TO TAKE THE 784 00:22:30,083 --> 00:22:32,049 INTERESTS IS TO TAKE THE ATTENTION AWAY FROM IMMIGRATION, 785 00:22:32,051 --> 00:22:32,350 ATTENTION AWAY FROM IMMIGRATION, RIGHT? 786 00:22:32,352 --> 00:22:33,584 RIGHT? SHE HAS BEEN KNOWN ACROSS THE 787 00:22:33,586 --> 00:22:36,287 SHE HAS BEEN KNOWN ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS THE GOVERNOR WHO 788 00:22:36,289 --> 00:22:38,989 COUNTRY AS THE GOVERNOR WHO PASSED THE FIRST AND ONE OF THE 789 00:22:38,991 --> 00:22:40,191 PASSED THE FIRST AND ONE OF THE MOST RESTRICTIVE IMMIGRATION 790 00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:41,525 MOST RESTRICTIVE IMMIGRATION LAWS IN THE COUNTRY. 791 00:22:41,527 --> 00:22:43,527 LAWS IN THE COUNTRY. SHE HAS STOOD VERY STEADFASTLY 792 00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:44,895 SHE HAS STOOD VERY STEADFASTLY ON HER POSITION ABOUT SECURING 793 00:22:44,897 --> 00:22:47,164 ON HER POSITION ABOUT SECURING THE BORDERS. 794 00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:52,203 THE BORDERS. AND SHE HAS NOT WAVERED FROM IT 795 00:22:52,205 --> 00:22:52,903 AND SHE HAS NOT WAVERED FROM IT AT ANY MOMENT. 796 00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:54,372 AT ANY MOMENT. THAT'S WHAT SHE'S KNOWN FOR, 797 00:22:54,374 --> 00:22:54,872 THAT'S WHAT SHE'S KNOWN FOR, REMEMBERED FOR. 798 00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:56,407 REMEMBERED FOR. MAYBE NOT SO MUCH IN ARIZONA BUT 799 00:22:56,409 --> 00:22:57,141 MAYBE NOT SO MUCH IN ARIZONA BUT CERTAINLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE 800 00:22:57,143 --> 00:22:59,710 CERTAINLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. 801 00:22:59,712 --> 00:23:01,312 COUNTRY. SO THERE ISN'T A MOTIVATION TO 802 00:23:01,314 --> 00:23:02,546 SO THERE ISN'T A MOTIVATION TO KIND OF BE KNOWN FOR SOMETHING 803 00:23:02,548 --> 00:23:04,648 KIND OF BE KNOWN FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH IS NOT A 804 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:06,884 OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH IS NOT A VERY POSITIVE LEGACY. 805 00:23:06,886 --> 00:23:08,686 VERY POSITIVE LEGACY. IF ONE IS TO LOOK AT NATIONALLY 806 00:23:08,688 --> 00:23:10,388 IF ONE IS TO LOOK AT NATIONALLY HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE HER. 807 00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:13,524 HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE HER. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SHE IS A 808 00:23:13,526 --> 00:23:14,658 BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SHE IS A PRAGMATIC, AND SHE'S SURROUNDED 809 00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:15,926 PRAGMATIC, AND SHE'S SURROUNDED BY VERY PRAGMATIC PEOPLE. 810 00:23:15,928 --> 00:23:19,063 BY VERY PRAGMATIC PEOPLE. AND A LOT OF HER DECISIONS ARE 811 00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:21,165 AND A LOT OF HER DECISIONS ARE MADE NOT ON HER OWN, BUT SHE 812 00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:23,567 MADE NOT ON HER OWN, BUT SHE MAKES THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH 813 00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:26,404 MAKES THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH ADVISERS WHO HAVE TAKEN A VERY 814 00:23:26,406 --> 00:23:27,905 ADVISERS WHO HAVE TAKEN A VERY PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO THE VERY 815 00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:29,940 PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO THE VERY SORT OF DOLLARS AND CENTS 816 00:23:29,942 --> 00:23:31,142 SORT OF DOLLARS AND CENTS APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE. 817 00:23:31,144 --> 00:23:32,676 APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE. IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE STATE 818 00:23:32,678 --> 00:23:33,077 IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE STATE FINANCIALLY. 819 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,112 FINANCIALLY. IT IS A 90% REIMBURSEMENT FROM 820 00:23:35,114 --> 00:23:36,013 IT IS A 90% REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST 821 00:23:36,015 --> 00:23:37,114 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST IN THE BEGINNING. 822 00:23:37,116 --> 00:23:39,550 IN THE BEGINNING. SHE HAS BUILT IN A CIRCUIT 823 00:23:39,552 --> 00:23:40,551 SHE HAS BUILT IN A CIRCUIT BREAKER AS SHE CALLS IT, WHICH 824 00:23:40,553 --> 00:23:43,854 BREAKER AS SHE CALLS IT, WHICH IS THAT IF THE REIMBURSEMENT 825 00:23:43,856 --> 00:23:45,689 IS THAT IF THE REIMBURSEMENT GOES BELOW 80%, SHE WOULD NO 826 00:23:45,691 --> 00:23:47,124 GOES BELOW 80%, SHE WOULD NO LONGER COVER CHILDLESS ADULTS. 827 00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:48,793 LONGER COVER CHILDLESS ADULTS. SHE'S SORT OF SHIELDING HERSELF 828 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:52,163 SHE'S SORT OF SHIELDING HERSELF FROM CRITICISM FROM THE 829 00:23:52,165 --> 00:23:52,930 FROM CRITICISM FROM THE REPUBLICANS WHILE AT THE SAME 830 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:54,432 REPUBLICANS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BUILDING SUPPORT FOR THIS 831 00:23:54,434 --> 00:23:55,800 TIME BUILDING SUPPORT FOR THIS ARGUMENT THAT THE STATE WILL 832 00:23:55,802 --> 00:23:56,434 ARGUMENT THAT THE STATE WILL SAVE MONEY IF IT EXPANDS 833 00:23:56,436 --> 00:23:57,735 SAVE MONEY IF IT EXPANDS MEDICAID. 834 00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,904 MEDICAID. >> NOW, YOU MENTIONED DOLLARS 835 00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:00,671 >> NOW, YOU MENTIONED DOLLARS AND CENTS. 836 00:24:00,673 --> 00:24:02,106 AND CENTS. AND THE REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION TO 837 00:24:02,108 --> 00:24:03,641 AND THE REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION TO THIS HAS ITS OWN ARGUMENT ABOUT 838 00:24:03,643 --> 00:24:05,443 THIS HAS ITS OWN ARGUMENT ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS, THAT THIS IS 839 00:24:05,445 --> 00:24:07,311 DOLLARS AND CENTS, THAT THIS IS ADDING TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT, 840 00:24:07,313 --> 00:24:10,080 ADDING TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT, THAT IT CAN'T BE AFFORDED 841 00:24:10,082 --> 00:24:10,414 THAT IT CAN'T BE AFFORDED OVERALL. 842 00:24:10,416 --> 00:24:11,715 OVERALL. HOW IS SHE GOING TO OVERCOME 843 00:24:11,717 --> 00:24:12,016 HOW IS SHE GOING TO OVERCOME THAT? 844 00:24:12,018 --> 00:24:12,950 THAT? IS THERE ENOUGH MOMENTUM 845 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:14,518 IS THERE ENOUGH MOMENTUM BUILDING TO ALLOW HER TO DO 846 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:14,819 BUILDING TO ALLOW HER TO DO THAT? 847 00:24:14,821 --> 00:24:16,787 THAT? >> SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET THIS 848 00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:17,121 >> SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET THIS PASSED. 849 00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:19,123 PASSED. AS HER SPOKESMAN PUT TO ME, WHEN 850 00:24:19,125 --> 00:24:22,660 AS HER SPOKESMAN PUT TO ME, WHEN SHE DIGS IN HER HEELS, SHE DIGS 851 00:24:22,662 --> 00:24:23,727 SHE DIGS IN HER HEELS, SHE DIGS THEM IN, AND SHE WILL GO 852 00:24:23,729 --> 00:24:24,061 THEM IN, AND SHE WILL GO FORWARD. 853 00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:25,996 FORWARD. THE LEGISLATURE IS AN 854 00:24:25,998 --> 00:24:28,432 THE LEGISLATURE IS AN INTERESTING BODY BECAUSE AS YOU 855 00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:30,367 INTERESTING BODY BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY 856 00:24:30,369 --> 00:24:34,171 KNOW WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT USE ARGUMENTS, FINANCIAL 857 00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:35,606 MIGHT USE ARGUMENTS, FINANCIAL ARGUMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO 858 00:24:35,608 --> 00:24:36,540 ARGUMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO JUSTIFY THEIR POSITION AGAINST 859 00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:39,210 JUSTIFY THEIR POSITION AGAINST THE EXPANSION, IT IS A VERY 860 00:24:39,212 --> 00:24:40,778 THE EXPANSION, IT IS A VERY POLITICAL BODY AND A VERY -- AND 861 00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:41,946 POLITICAL BODY AND A VERY -- AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE 862 00:24:41,948 --> 00:24:43,080 WHEN IT COMES TO THE REPUBLICANS, THERE IS A VERY 863 00:24:43,082 --> 00:24:44,648 REPUBLICANS, THERE IS A VERY STRONG TEA PARTY TYPE OF 864 00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:46,083 STRONG TEA PARTY TYPE OF MENTALITY AMONG MANY OF THE 865 00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:47,418 MENTALITY AMONG MANY OF THE REPUBLICANS HERE WHO ARE VERY 866 00:24:47,420 --> 00:24:49,720 REPUBLICANS HERE WHO ARE VERY TIED TO THE IDEAS OF NOT 867 00:24:49,722 --> 00:24:50,988 TIED TO THE IDEAS OF NOT EXPANDING THE DEFICIT, NOT 868 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:53,290 EXPANDING THE DEFICIT, NOT CONTRIBUTING TO A BIGGER ROLE OF 869 00:24:53,292 --> 00:24:57,027 CONTRIBUTING TO A BIGGER ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN THE LIVES OF S 870 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:57,895 GOVERNMENT IN THE LIVES OF S CITIZ 871 00:24:57,897 --> 00:24:58,796 CITIZ CITIZENS, VERY PHILOSOPHICAL 872 00:24:58,798 --> 00:24:59,563 CITIZENS, VERY PHILOSOPHICAL IDEOLOGICAL POSITIONS AGAINST 873 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:02,166 IDEOLOGICAL POSITIONS AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT 874 00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:03,901 THE HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA PROPOSED, AND 875 00:25:03,903 --> 00:25:05,803 PRESIDENT OBAMA PROPOSED, AND THAT IS NOW A LAW IN THIS 876 00:25:05,805 --> 00:25:06,136 THAT IS NOW A LAW IN THIS COUNTRY. 877 00:25:06,138 --> 00:25:08,339 COUNTRY. SO YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT 878 00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:10,341 SO YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO 879 00:25:10,343 --> 00:25:12,009 SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO LITTLE STILL SOMEWHAT UP IN THE 880 00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:12,276 LITTLE STILL SOMEWHAT UP IN THE AIR. 881 00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:13,878 AIR. I'M SURE THAT HER PEOPLE ARE 882 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,345 I'M SURE THAT HER PEOPLE ARE WORKING HARD. 883 00:25:14,347 --> 00:25:16,780 WORKING HARD. WHEN I TALK TO MANY PEOPLE IN 884 00:25:16,782 --> 00:25:17,982 WHEN I TALK TO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS EFFORT, THEY SEEM TO THINK 885 00:25:17,984 --> 00:25:19,383 THIS EFFORT, THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE, BUT 886 00:25:19,385 --> 00:25:20,351 THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE, BUT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE 887 00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:21,151 THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IT THROUGH. 888 00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:22,686 TO GET IT THROUGH. >> DEMOCRATS SEEM UNITED IN 889 00:25:22,688 --> 00:25:23,354 >> DEMOCRATS SEEM UNITED IN FAVOR OF IT. 890 00:25:23,356 --> 00:25:25,189 FAVOR OF IT. AND IN FACT, THIS SEEMS TO HAVE 891 00:25:25,191 --> 00:25:27,091 AND IN FACT, THIS SEEMS TO HAVE GIVEN DEMOCRATS HERE IN THE 892 00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:28,025 GIVEN DEMOCRATS HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE SOME ENERGY AFTER 893 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:34,999 LEGISLATURE SOME ENERGY AFTER YEARS AND YEARS OF NOT LETHARGY 894 00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:36,233 YEARS AND YEARS OF NOT LETHARGY BUT OF ALMOST VOICELESS BECAUSE 895 00:25:36,235 --> 00:25:37,368 BUT OF ALMOST VOICELESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POWER. 896 00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:38,435 THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POWER. ARE THEY GOING TO HOLD TOGETHER 897 00:25:38,437 --> 00:25:39,169 ARE THEY GOING TO HOLD TOGETHER ON THIS? 898 00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:40,704 ON THIS? >> IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION 899 00:25:40,706 --> 00:25:41,772 >> IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE I SPOKE TO SOME LEADERS 900 00:25:41,774 --> 00:25:43,541 BECAUSE I SPOKE TO SOME LEADERS IN THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS, AND 901 00:25:43,543 --> 00:25:45,109 IN THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS, AND THEY EXPRESS A LITTLE CONCERN 902 00:25:45,111 --> 00:25:48,412 THEY EXPRESS A LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT THE FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS 903 00:25:48,414 --> 00:25:51,115 ABOUT THE FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THE HOUSE SPEAKER, ANDY 904 00:25:51,117 --> 00:25:56,487 BECAUSE THE HOUSE SPEAKER, ANDY BIGGS, A REPUBLICAN -- 905 00:25:56,489 --> 00:25:57,821 BIGGS, A REPUBLICAN -- >> ANDY TOEBBIN. 906 00:25:57,823 --> 00:25:59,557 >> ANDY TOEBBIN. >> I'M SORRY. 907 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:01,425 >> I'M SORRY. HE'S BEEN MEETING WITH THEM. 908 00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:03,060 HE'S BEEN MEETING WITH THEM. HE CAN DECIDE WHICH BILLS GET 909 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:04,495 HE CAN DECIDE WHICH BILLS GET THROUGH, WHICH BILLS DON'T. 910 00:26:04,497 --> 00:26:07,498 THROUGH, WHICH BILLS DON'T. AND NOT THAT NOBODY SAID THAT 911 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,300 AND NOT THAT NOBODY SAID THAT HE'S BEEN EXPLICITLY USING HIS 912 00:26:09,302 --> 00:26:12,770 HE'S BEEN EXPLICITLY USING HIS POWER TO TRY TO GET THEM -- 913 00:26:12,772 --> 00:26:13,537 POWER TO TRY TO GET THEM -- FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS TO VOTE 914 00:26:13,539 --> 00:26:15,272 FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS TO VOTE AGAINST THE EXPANSION, BUT I 915 00:26:15,274 --> 00:26:16,340 AGAINST THE EXPANSION, BUT I THINK IT'S EMPLOYEED THAT IF 916 00:26:16,342 --> 00:26:17,508 THINK IT'S EMPLOYEED THAT IF THEY'RE MEETING WITH YOU AND 917 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:18,509 THEY'RE MEETING WITH YOU AND DISCUSSING HOW TO GET THEIR 918 00:26:18,511 --> 00:26:21,245 DISCUSSING HOW TO GET THEIR BILLS THROUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW -- 919 00:26:21,247 --> 00:26:22,479 BILLS THROUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW -- AND HE IS BRINGING UP THE 920 00:26:22,481 --> 00:26:24,081 AND HE IS BRINGING UP THE MEDICAID ISSUE, THEN MAYBE THERE 921 00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:25,816 MEDICAID ISSUE, THEN MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING THEY CAN WORK OUT 922 00:26:25,818 --> 00:26:26,350 IS SOMETHING THEY CAN WORK OUT IN BETWEEN. 923 00:26:26,352 --> 00:26:29,720 IN BETWEEN. BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY, IT IS A 924 00:26:29,722 --> 00:26:31,255 BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY, IT IS A DEFINING MOMENT FOR THE 925 00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:32,856 DEFINING MOMENT FOR THE DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE WHO HAVE 926 00:26:32,858 --> 00:26:33,891 DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE WHO HAVE BEEN VIRTUALLY WITHOUT ANY POWER 927 00:26:33,893 --> 00:26:36,493 BEEN VIRTUALLY WITHOUT ANY POWER FOR DECADES HERE. 928 00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:37,995 FOR DECADES HERE. AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR 929 00:26:37,997 --> 00:26:39,964 AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 930 00:26:39,966 --> 00:26:41,732 DEMOCRATS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND THEY FEEL ALMOST THAT IT'S 931 00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:43,767 AND THEY FEEL ALMOST THAT IT'S THEIR DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO 932 00:26:43,769 --> 00:26:45,803 THEIR DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO HELP THE GOVERNOR IN EVERY WAY 933 00:26:45,805 --> 00:26:47,738 HELP THE GOVERNOR IN EVERY WAY THEY CAN TO GET THIS PASSED, NOT 934 00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:49,473 THEY CAN TO GET THIS PASSED, NOT STAND IN HER WAY, MEANING NOT 935 00:26:49,475 --> 00:26:52,443 STAND IN HER WAY, MEANING NOT MAKING ANY OF THE MEMBERS VOTE 936 00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:53,544 MAKING ANY OF THE MEMBERS VOTE AGAINST THE EXPANSION. 937 00:26:53,546 --> 00:26:57,848 AGAINST THE EXPANSION. >> FERNANDA SANTOS, THANKS FOR 938 00:26:57,850 --> 00:26:58,349 >> FERNANDA SANTOS, THANKS FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. 939 00:26:58,351 --> 00:26:59,383 SPEAKING WITH ME. >> MY PLEASURE. 940 00:26:59,385 --> 00:27:00,317 >> MY PLEASURE. IT WAS GREAT BEING HERE. 941 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:02,987 IT WAS GREAT BEING HERE. >> THERE'S MORE ON MEDICAID AND 942 00:27:02,989 --> 00:27:04,588 >> THERE'S MORE ON MEDICAID AND BREWER'S EXPANSION PLAN ON OUR 943 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:04,922 BREWER'S EXPANSION PLAN ON OUR WEBSITE. 944 00:27:04,924 --> 00:27:05,823 WEBSITE. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY, 945 00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:07,992 THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY, MARCH 15th, 2013. 946 00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:09,627 MARCH 15th, 2013. NEXT WEEK, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT 947 00:27:09,629 --> 00:27:12,162 NEXT WEEK, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT OFFICIALS ARE CALLING A DRAMATIC 948 00:27:12,164 --> 00:27:13,230 OFFICIALS ARE CALLING A DRAMATIC SHIFT IN THE STATE 949 00:27:13,232 --> 00:27:13,897 SHIFT IN THE STATE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S 950 00:27:13,899 --> 00:27:15,633 TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S HIGHWAY PRIORITIES. 951 00:27:15,635 --> 00:27:19,003 HIGHWAY PRIORITIES. FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL 952 00:27:19,005 --> 00:27:20,471 FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL CHEHA. 953 00:27:20,473 --> 00:27:24,473 >>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.