>>> REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR JAN
BREWER MAKES HER

BREWER MAKES HER
COUNTERINTUITIVE POLITICAL MOVE

COUNTERINTUITIVE POLITICAL MOVE
TO EXPAND MEDICAID.

TO EXPAND MEDICAID.
>> THIS MEDICAID RESTORATION

>> THIS MEDICAID RESTORATION
PLAN WILL BRING $8 BILLION INTO

PLAN WILL BRING $8 BILLION INTO
OUR ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT FOUR

OUR ECONOMY OVER THE NEXT FOUR
YEARS.

YEARS.
IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A

IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A
SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS

SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS
STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF

STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF
CARING FOR THE UNINSURED.

CARING FOR THE UNINSURED.
>> DEMOCRATS ARE ALL FOR IT, BUT

>> DEMOCRATS ARE ALL FOR IT, BUT
WILL BREWER SELL A REPUBLICANS

WILL BREWER SELL A REPUBLICANS
BUY-IN?

BUY-IN?
>> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON

>> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON
THIS.

THIS.
WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT

WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT
IN HER STATE OF THE UNION

IN HER STATE OF THE UNION
SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE

SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE
THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND

THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND
APPLAUDED HER.

APPLAUDED HER.
I WAS SO SURPRISED.

I WAS SO SURPRISED.
>> WILL I STAND WITH MY

>> WILL I STAND WITH MY
CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND

CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND
I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF

I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF
ARIZONIANS IN REJECTING

ARIZONIANS IN REJECTING
OBAMACARE IN THIS STATE, THIS

OBAMACARE IN THIS STATE, THIS
WILL BANKRUPT THE STATE OF

WILL BANKRUPT THE STATE OF
ARIZONA.

ARIZONA.
>> STATE CAPITOL POLITICS TURNED

>> STATE CAPITOL POLITICS TURNED
SIDEWAYS.

SIDEWAYS.
IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK."

IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK."
>> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK"

>> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK"
IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A

IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A
GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL

GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL
FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF

FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF
ARIZONA MUST BE MEDIA.

ARIZONA MUST BE MEDIA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
SUPPORT.

>>> ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR.
>> GOVERNOR BREWER HAS STEPPED

>> GOVERNOR BREWER HAS STEPPED
INTO ARIZONA'S POLITICAL BREACH

INTO ARIZONA'S POLITICAL BREACH
BY PROPOSING THAT THE STATE

BY PROPOSING THAT THE STATE
ACCEPT FEDERAL AFFORDABLE CARE

ACCEPT FEDERAL AFFORDABLE CARE
ACT MONEY TO EXPAND MEDICAID.

ACT MONEY TO EXPAND MEDICAID.
SHE SAYS IT WOULD PROVIDE HEALTH

SHE SAYS IT WOULD PROVIDE HEALTH
INSURANCE FOR AN ADECISIDITIONA

INSURANCE FOR AN ADECISIDITIONA
240,000 PEOPLE.

240,000 PEOPLE.
BUT KEY REPUBLICANS IN THE

BUT KEY REPUBLICANS IN THE
LEGISLATURE SAY THEY'RE OPPOSED.

LEGISLATURE SAY THEY'RE OPPOSED.
TONIGHT WE'LL EXPLORE THE TEST

TONIGHT WE'LL EXPLORE THE TEST
OF WILLS THAT IS TAKING SHAPE.

OF WILLS THAT IS TAKING SHAPE.
FIRST, THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL

FIRST, THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL
AS SHE PRESENTED IT THIS WEEK AT

AS SHE PRESENTED IT THIS WEEK AT
THE STATE CAPITOL.

THE STATE CAPITOL.
>> ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE

>> ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE
CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED THIS

CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED THIS
PROGRAM AND HAVE TWICE VOTED BY

PROGRAM AND HAVE TWICE VOTED BY
WIDE MARGINS TO EXPAND COVERAGE

WIDE MARGINS TO EXPAND COVERAGE
FOR THE WORKING POOR IN OUR

FOR THE WORKING POOR IN OUR
STATE.

STATE.
TODAY I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT

TODAY I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT
WE HAVE CRAFTED A THOUGHTFUL,

WE HAVE CRAFTED A THOUGHTFUL,
CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION THAT

CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION THAT
HONORS THE WILL OF THE ARIZONA

HONORS THE WILL OF THE ARIZONA
VOTERS.

VOTERS.
WHAT'S MORE, THIS MEDICAID

WHAT'S MORE, THIS MEDICAID
RESTORATION PLAN WILL BRING $8

RESTORATION PLAN WILL BRING $8
BILLION INTO OUR ECONOMY OVER

BILLION INTO OUR ECONOMY OVER
THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A

IT WILL THROW A LIFE LINE TO A
SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS

SAFETY NET IN RURAL HOSPITALS
STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF

STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF
CARING FOR THE UNINSURED.

CARING FOR THE UNINSURED.
AND IT WILL KEEP ARIZONA'S TAX

AND IT WILL KEEP ARIZONA'S TAX
DOLLARS HERE AT HOME.

DOLLARS HERE AT HOME.
RATHER THAN ALLOWING THEM TO GO

RATHER THAN ALLOWING THEM TO GO
TO WASHINGTON TO BE SPENT ON WHO

TO WASHINGTON TO BE SPENT ON WHO
KNOWS WHAT.

KNOWS WHAT.
BEST OF ALL, MY PLAN COMES AT NO

BEST OF ALL, MY PLAN COMES AT NO
COST TO OUR STATE GENERAL FUND.

COST TO OUR STATE GENERAL FUND.
>> BREWER HAS SUSPENDED HER

>> BREWER HAS SUSPENDED HER
OPPOSITION TO PART OF THE

OPPOSITION TO PART OF THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO PUSH

AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO PUSH
MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE STATE.

MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE STATE.
SHE INSISTS HERS IS A CONSISTENT

SHE INSISTS HERS IS A CONSISTENT
CONSERVATIVE POSITION.

CONSERVATIVE POSITION.
EVEN TYING HEALTH CARE FOR THE

EVEN TYING HEALTH CARE FOR THE
POOR TO THE PRO-LIFE STANCE THAT

POOR TO THE PRO-LIFE STANCE THAT
SHE SAYS IS HER TRUE CHARACTER

SHE SAYS IS HER TRUE CHARACTER
AND THAT OF OTHER REPUBLICANS.

AND THAT OF OTHER REPUBLICANS.
>> BUT THERE'S SOMETHING EVEN

>> BUT THERE'S SOMETHING EVEN
MORE IMPORTANT AT STAKE TODAY.

MORE IMPORTANT AT STAKE TODAY.
PEOPLE.

PEOPLE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TENS OF

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF OUR FELLOW

THOUSANDS OF OUR FELLOW
ARIZONIANS WHO HAVE LOST JOBS

ARIZONIANS WHO HAVE LOST JOBS
AND THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE

AND THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE
DURING THE GREAT RECESSION.

DURING THE GREAT RECESSION.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS
MORE WHO CONTINUE TO WORK BUT

MORE WHO CONTINUE TO WORK BUT
SIMPLY DON'T EARN ENOUGH TO

SIMPLY DON'T EARN ENOUGH TO
AFFORD PRIVATE INSURANCE.

AFFORD PRIVATE INSURANCE.
IF YOU'RE ONE OF THESE

IF YOU'RE ONE OF THESE
ARIZONIANS AND YOU DON'T HAVE

ARIZONIANS AND YOU DON'T HAVE
CHILDREN, YOU'RE CURRENTLY

CHILDREN, YOU'RE CURRENTLY
LOCKED OUT OF OUR ACCESS

LOCKED OUT OF OUR ACCESS
PROGRAM.

PROGRAM.
THEY WALK A DAILY TIGHTROPE

THEY WALK A DAILY TIGHTROPE
KNOWING THEY ARE ONE-CAR

KNOWING THEY ARE ONE-CAR
ACCIDENT, ONE FREAK INJURY OR

ACCIDENT, ONE FREAK INJURY OR
ONE SERIOUS ILLNESS AWAY FROM

ONE SERIOUS ILLNESS AWAY FROM
DISASTER.

DISASTER.
WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NEED

WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NEED
CARE, THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY

CARE, THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY
ROOM IS USUALLY THEIR ONLY

ROOM IS USUALLY THEIR ONLY
OPTION.

OPTION.
THIS IS NOT JUST THE MOST

THIS IS NOT JUST THE MOST
EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR TAXPAYERS,

EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR TAXPAYERS,
IT IS THE LEAST EFFECTIVE WAY TO

IT IS THE LEAST EFFECTIVE WAY TO
TREAT A CHRONIC CONDITION LIKE

TREAT A CHRONIC CONDITION LIKE
CANCER OR DIABETES.

CANCER OR DIABETES.
SO THE PATIENTS GET SICKER, AND

SO THE PATIENTS GET SICKER, AND
THE REST OF ARIZONA PAYS FOR IT.

THE REST OF ARIZONA PAYS FOR IT.
>> THE MEDICAID PROPOSAL WOULD

>> THE MEDICAID PROPOSAL WOULD
EXPAND ELIGIBILITY FOR THE

EXPAND ELIGIBILITY FOR THE
FEDERAL HEALTH PLAN TO PEOPLE

FEDERAL HEALTH PLAN TO PEOPLE
WHOSE INCOMES ARE AT 133% OF THE

WHOSE INCOMES ARE AT 133% OF THE
FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL.

FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL.
THAT MEANS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT AN

THAT MEANS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT AN
INDIVIDUAL WITH AN INCOME OF

INDIVIDUAL WITH AN INCOME OF
$15,000 A YEAR WOULD BE

$15,000 A YEAR WOULD BE
ELIGIBLE.

ELIGIBLE.
AS WOULD A FAMILY OF FOUR WITH

AS WOULD A FAMILY OF FOUR WITH
TOTAL INCOME OF $31,000 A YEAR.

TOTAL INCOME OF $31,000 A YEAR.
>> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE

>> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE
A MEMBER OF A PRO-LIFE PARTY.

A MEMBER OF A PRO-LIFE PARTY.
WITH THIS LEGISLATION, WE'RE

WITH THIS LEGISLATION, WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES.

TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING
PEOPLE'S LIVES.

PEOPLE'S LIVES.
I'M A PRO-LIFE GOVERNOR.

I'M A PRO-LIFE GOVERNOR.
I REFUSE TO STAND BY AND ALLOW

I REFUSE TO STAND BY AND ALLOW
THIS MANY PEOPLE TO NEEDLESSLY

THIS MANY PEOPLE TO NEEDLESSLY
SUFFER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE

SUFFER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE
A SOLUTION.

A SOLUTION.
THAT'S WHAT -- THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHAT -- THANK YOU.
>> THE STATE WOULD GET A

>> THE STATE WOULD GET A
WINDFALL FROM EXPANSION,

WINDFALL FROM EXPANSION,
ESTIMATED AT $1.6 BILLION A

ESTIMATED AT $1.6 BILLION A
YEAR.

YEAR.
ALL COSTS WOULD BE BORNE BY THE

ALL COSTS WOULD BE BORNE BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE EARLY

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE EARLY
YEARS GOING TO 90% FEDERAL

YEARS GOING TO 90% FEDERAL
COVERAGE AFTER THREE YEARS.

COVERAGE AFTER THREE YEARS.
EVEN THEN BREWER'S PLAN CALLS

EVEN THEN BREWER'S PLAN CALLS
FOR THE STATE'S SHARE ESTIMATED

FOR THE STATE'S SHARE ESTIMATED
AT $250 MILLION A YEAR TO BE

AT $250 MILLION A YEAR TO BE
COVERED BY A FEE ON HOSPITALS

COVERED BY A FEE ON HOSPITALS
AND NOT COME FROM STATE

AND NOT COME FROM STATE
TAXPAYERS.

TAXPAYERS.
BREWER HAS ASSEMBLED A BROAD

BREWER HAS ASSEMBLED A BROAD
COALITION OF SUPPORT FOR THE

COALITION OF SUPPORT FOR THE
EXPANSION, AND SHE WAS QUICK TO

EXPANSION, AND SHE WAS QUICK TO
SHOW THAT OFF AND TO EMPHASIZE

SHOW THAT OFF AND TO EMPHASIZE
THAT ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE

THAT ARIZONA VOTERS HAVE
APPROVED EXPANDED HEALTH CARE

APPROVED EXPANDED HEALTH CARE
FOR THE POOR MORE THAN ONCE.

FOR THE POOR MORE THAN ONCE.
>> I AM SO HONORED TODAY TO BE

>> I AM SO HONORED TODAY TO BE
HERE, JOINED BY THIS BROAD AND

HERE, JOINED BY THIS BROAD AND
DIVERSE COALITION REPRESENTING

DIVERSE COALITION REPRESENTING
MORE THAN 110 ORGANIZATIONS

MORE THAN 110 ORGANIZATIONS
ACROSS ARIZONA.

ACROSS ARIZONA.
BUSINESS LEADERS, DOCTORS,

BUSINESS LEADERS, DOCTORS,
NURSES, COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE

NURSES, COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE
CATHOLIC DIOCESE, UNIVERSITY

CATHOLIC DIOCESE, UNIVERSITY
REGENTS, MENTAL HEALTH

REGENTS, MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS AND MORE.

PROFESSIONALS AND MORE.
WHAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS

WHAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS
THEIR DESIRE TO SEE THE ARIZONA

THEIR DESIRE TO SEE THE ARIZONA
LEGISLATURE JOIN ME IN ENACTING

LEGISLATURE JOIN ME IN ENACTING
THIS PLAN TO RESTORE MEDICAID

THIS PLAN TO RESTORE MEDICAID
COVERAGE, BOOST OUR ECONOMY,

COVERAGE, BOOST OUR ECONOMY,
TAKE PRESSURE OFF OUR STATE

TAKE PRESSURE OFF OUR STATE
BUDGET, AND PROVIDE

BUDGET, AND PROVIDE
COST-EFFECTIVE CARE TO

COST-EFFECTIVE CARE TO
ARIZONIANS WHO NEED IT THE MOST.

ARIZONIANS WHO NEED IT THE MOST.
AND REMEMBER, ARIZONIANS VOTED

AND REMEMBER, ARIZONIANS VOTED
TWICE DEMANDED THIS.

TWICE DEMANDED THIS.
TWICE THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA

TWICE THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA
VOTED.

VOTED.
>> LEGISLATIVE REACTION WAS

>> LEGISLATIVE REACTION WAS
SWIFT AND DECISIVE.

SWIFT AND DECISIVE.
ELECTED OFFICIALS ALREADY WERE

ELECTED OFFICIALS ALREADY WERE
LARGELY IN TWO CAMPS BEFORE THE

LARGELY IN TWO CAMPS BEFORE THE
ANNOUNCEMENT.

ANNOUNCEMENT.
AND IT SERVED TO INTENSIFY THEIR

AND IT SERVED TO INTENSIFY THEIR
STANCE.

STANCE.
WHAT'S YOUR STAND ON THE

WHAT'S YOUR STAND ON THE
MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PROPOSED

MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PROPOSED
BY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER?

BY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER?
>> I SUPPORT HER WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

>> I SUPPORT HER WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED
TO DO ESPECIALLY WITH THE RURAL

TO DO ESPECIALLY WITH THE RURAL
HOSPITALS.

HOSPITALS.
WE HAVE RURALS THAT ARE ABOUT TO

WE HAVE RURALS THAT ARE ABOUT TO
GO BROKE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'VE

GO BROKE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'VE
HAD UNCOMPENSATED CARE FOR THE

HAD UNCOMPENSATED CARE FOR THE
LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS.

LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS.
AND IT'S TIME WE COME BACK IN

AND IT'S TIME WE COME BACK IN
AND START WITH THE 204

AND START WITH THE 204
POPULATION, WHICH IS THE

POPULATION, WHICH IS THE
CHILDLESS ADULTS FIRST, AND THEN

CHILDLESS ADULTS FIRST, AND THEN
WE'VE GOT TO GO ON, AND IT'S

WE'VE GOT TO GO ON, AND IT'S
GOING TO BRING A LOT OF MONEY

GOING TO BRING A LOT OF MONEY
INTO ARIZONA.

INTO ARIZONA.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH CARE

IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH CARE
FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON

FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON
COMPENSATED CARE WHICH WE'RE

COMPENSATED CARE WHICH WE'RE
PAYING FOR ANYWAYS, AND IT'S

PAYING FOR ANYWAYS, AND IT'S
HURTING SMALL BUSINESS TO DO

HURTING SMALL BUSINESS TO DO
THAT, BUTT IT'S GOING TO GIVE

THAT, BUTT IT'S GOING TO GIVE
COVERAGE TO THEM.

COVERAGE TO THEM.
AND THEN OVER THE NEXT FEW

AND THEN OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS, IT'S 300 AND SOME

YEARS, IT'S 300 AND SOME
MILLION.

MILLION.
IT'S $1.6 BILLION IN '15, $1.7

IT'S $1.6 BILLION IN '15, $1.7
BILLION IN '16.

BILLION IN '16.
AND THAT'S HUGE TO THE STATE.

AND THAT'S HUGE TO THE STATE.
JUST THE MATH OF IT IS ENORMOUS.

JUST THE MATH OF IT IS ENORMOUS.
I SUPPORT IT.

I SUPPORT IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT WE

THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT WE
NEED TO DO IT.

NEED TO DO IT.
IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
I KNOW PEOPLE THAT WERE PUSHED

I KNOW PEOPLE THAT WERE PUSHED
OFF, VETS THAT CAME BACK FROM

OFF, VETS THAT CAME BACK FROM
IRAQ, AND THEY WERE PUSHED OR AM

IRAQ, AND THEY WERE PUSHED OR AM
SES.

SES.
>> I STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS

>> I STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS
IN MY DISTRICT, AND I BELIEVE

IN MY DISTRICT, AND I BELIEVE
THE VAST MAJORITY IN ARIZONIANS

THE VAST MAJORITY IN ARIZONIANS
IN REJECTING OBAMACARE IN THIS

IN REJECTING OBAMACARE IN THIS
STATE, THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE

STATE, THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE
STATE OF ARIZONA AND CREATE A

STATE OF ARIZONA AND CREATE A
LASSO.

LASSO.
IT WILL PULL A NOOSE AROUND THE

IT WILL PULL A NOOSE AROUND THE
TAXPAYERS, AND THOSE WHO FRANKLY

TAXPAYERS, AND THOSE WHO FRANKLY
NEED HEALTH CARE THE MOST.

NEED HEALTH CARE THE MOST.
>> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON

>> I AM FULLY BEHIND HER ON
THIS.

THIS.
WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT

WHEN SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT
IN HER STATE OF THE UNION

IN HER STATE OF THE UNION
SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE

SPEECH, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE
THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND

THAT ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND
APPLAUDED HER.

APPLAUDED HER.
I WAS SO SURPRISED AND SO

I WAS SO SURPRISED AND SO
THRILLED THAT SHE'S DOING THIS.

THRILLED THAT SHE'S DOING THIS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS

THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS
WHY I GOT INTO OFFICE IN THE

WHY I GOT INTO OFFICE IN THE
FIRST PLACE.

FIRST PLACE.
THE WHOLE REASON I RAN WAS

THE WHOLE REASON I RAN WAS
BECAUSE I WAS SEEING THE

BECAUSE I WAS SEEING THE
INJUSTICE AND THE FACT THAT

INJUSTICE AND THE FACT THAT
PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THEIR

PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THEIR
MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS

MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS
MET.

MET.
THEY'RE JUST NOT.

THEY'RE JUST NOT.
AND THAT'S INEXCUSABLE.

AND THAT'S INEXCUSABLE.
WE HAVE THIS SYSTEM NOW THAT IS

WE HAVE THIS SYSTEM NOW THAT IS
OFFERING US $10 TO EVERY $1

OFFERING US $10 TO EVERY $1
ARIZONA SPENDS.

ARIZONA SPENDS.
WE'D BE CRAZY NOT TO TAKE

WE'D BE CRAZY NOT TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS.

THOSE ARE TAX DOLLARS.
WE NEED TO BRING THOSE TAX

WE NEED TO BRING THOSE TAX
DOLLARS BACK TO ARIZONA.

DOLLARS BACK TO ARIZONA.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY'RE GOING TO

IF THEY DON'T, THEY'RE GOING TO
GO TO MEXICO, CALIFORNIA, TO

GO TO MEXICO, CALIFORNIA, TO
ANOTHER STATE, AND WE WILL LOSE

ANOTHER STATE, AND WE WILL LOSE
OUT ON THIS.

OUT ON THIS.
AND WE WILL HAVE OUR VULNERABLE

AND WE WILL HAVE OUR VULNERABLE
CITIZENS, OUR MOST VULNERABLE

CITIZENS, OUR MOST VULNERABLE
PEOPLE, NOT ABLE TO GET THE

PEOPLE, NOT ABLE TO GET THE
HEALTH CARE THAT THEY DESERVE.

HEALTH CARE THAT THEY DESERVE.
>> IT'S THE SAME AS IT'S BEEN

>> IT'S THE SAME AS IT'S BEEN
SINCE I WAS RUNNING FOR

SINCE I WAS RUNNING FOR
RE-ELECTION, AND THAT IS I

RE-ELECTION, AND THAT IS I
OPPOSE IT.

OPPOSE IT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING
THE BILL THAT SHE'S PLANNING ON

THE BILL THAT SHE'S PLANNING ON
INTRODUCING.

INTRODUCING.
AND SEEING WHAT DETAILS ARE

AND SEEING WHAT DETAILS ARE
THERE AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM

THERE AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM
THERE.

THERE.
>> COULD YOUR READING OF THAT

>> COULD YOUR READING OF THAT
BILL CHANGE YOUR MIND?

BILL CHANGE YOUR MIND?
>> WELL, I DOUBT IT BECAUSE I

>> WELL, I DOUBT IT BECAUSE I
DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE

DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE
ANYTHING NEW FROM WHAT WE'VE

ANYTHING NEW FROM WHAT WE'VE
BEEN HEARING IN SPEECHES AND IN

BEEN HEARING IN SPEECHES AND IN
DISCUSSION.

DISCUSSION.
>> AND DO YOU -- YOU BEAR A DUAL

>> AND DO YOU -- YOU BEAR A DUAL
ROLE.

ROLE.
NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A VOTE AS A

NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A VOTE AS A
SENATOR, BUT YOU SHEPHERD THE

SENATOR, BUT YOU SHEPHERD THE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IN THE SENATE.

REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IN THE SENATE.
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING GOING ON

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING GOING ON
THERE AS FAR AS SUPPORT FOR OR

THERE AS FAR AS SUPPORT FOR OR
OPPOSITION TO THE MEDICAID

OPPOSITION TO THE MEDICAID
EXPANSION?

EXPANSION?
>> I THINK PRIMARILY UNTIL NOW,

>> I THINK PRIMARILY UNTIL NOW,
EVERYBODY'S BEEN WANTING TO SEE

EVERYBODY'S BEEN WANTING TO SEE
A BILL SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THE

A BILL SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THE
LANGUAGE IS, MAKE DECISIONS.

LANGUAGE IS, MAKE DECISIONS.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE

I THINK THAT THERE ARE
INHERENTLY A FEW THAT SUPPORT

INHERENTLY A FEW THAT SUPPORT
IT, AND THERE'S INHERENTLY SOME

IT, AND THERE'S INHERENTLY SOME
WHO DON'T SUPPORT IT.

WHO DON'T SUPPORT IT.
I THINK MOST EVERYBODY WANTS TO

I THINK MOST EVERYBODY WANTS TO
GIVE A CHANCE TO READ WHAT'S IN

GIVE A CHANCE TO READ WHAT'S IN
THE BILL, AND THEN WE CAN ASK

THE BILL, AND THEN WE CAN ASK
EVEN MORE QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW

EVEN MORE QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW
IT WORKS.

IT WORKS.
>> I'M SUPPORTIVE.

>> I'M SUPPORTIVE.
AS LONG AS THERE'S NO STRINGS

AS LONG AS THERE'S NO STRINGS
ATTACHED.

ATTACHED.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT
COMES AS A SINGLE ISSUE EITHER

COMES AS A SINGLE ISSUE EITHER
IN THE BUDGET OR A DIFFERENT

IN THE BUDGET OR A DIFFERENT
BILL.

BILL.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY STRINGS?

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY STRINGS?
WHAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM

WHAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM
SUPPORTING IT IN THE WAY OF

SUPPORTING IT IN THE WAY OF
STRINGS ATTACHED?

STRINGS ATTACHED?
>> WELL, JUST FROM HAVING BEEN

>> WELL, JUST FROM HAVING BEEN
DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL, IN

DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL, IN
ORDER TO GET VOTES, SOMETIMES

ORDER TO GET VOTES, SOMETIMES
THE GOVERNOR MAY HAVE TO OFFER

THE GOVERNOR MAY HAVE TO OFFER
CERTAIN PEOPLE SOMETHING FOR

CERTAIN PEOPLE SOMETHING FOR
THEIR VOTE.

THEIR VOTE.
AND IF IT'S THINGS THAT I

AND IF IT'S THINGS THAT I
WOULDN'T SUPPORT OR OUR CAUCUS

WOULDN'T SUPPORT OR OUR CAUCUS
WOULDN'T SUPPORT, SHE MAY LOSE

WOULDN'T SUPPORT, SHE MAY LOSE
VOTES.

VOTES.
SO SHE HAS TO WALK A TIGHTROPE

SO SHE HAS TO WALK A TIGHTROPE
HERE.

HERE.
AND IT'S A CHALLENGING POSITION

AND IT'S A CHALLENGING POSITION
TO BE IN.

TO BE IN.
TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED.

TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED.
>> AND YOUR CASE FOR IT BEING A

>> AND YOUR CASE FOR IT BEING A
VIABLE OPTION FOR ARIZONA?

VIABLE OPTION FOR ARIZONA?
>> TWO REASONS.

>> TWO REASONS.
I MEAN, FIRST, IT'S ECONOMIC

I MEAN, FIRST, IT'S ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.

DEVELOPMENT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE
INFLUX OF MONEY, 2 PLUS BILLION

INFLUX OF MONEY, 2 PLUS BILLION
DOLLARS COMING INTO THE ECONOMY

DOLLARS COMING INTO THE ECONOMY
HERE IN THE STATE.

HERE IN THE STATE.
THAT'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF

THAT'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
JOBS.

JOBS.
AND YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT

AND YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT
EXPANDING COVERAGE FOR 300,000

EXPANDING COVERAGE FOR 300,000
PLUS PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE.

PLUS PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE.
PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT COVERAGE

PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT COVERAGE
WHO THEN ONCE THEY GET THAT

WHO THEN ONCE THEY GET THAT
COVERAGE CAN GET BACK TO WORK

COVERAGE CAN GET BACK TO WORK
AND BE MORE PRODUCTIVE.

AND BE MORE PRODUCTIVE.
>> YOUR STAND ON THE GOVERNOR'S

>> YOUR STAND ON THE GOVERNOR'S
MEDICAID EXPANSION PLAN?

MEDICAID EXPANSION PLAN?
>> WELL, CLEARLY THE PEOPLE HAVE

>> WELL, CLEARLY THE PEOPLE HAVE
SPOKEN.

SPOKEN.
AND THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION

AND THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION
MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT

MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT
THEY WANT FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR

THEY WANT FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR
HEALTH CARE.

HEALTH CARE.
IN FACT, MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR

IN FACT, MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR
HEALTH CARE AND AGAINST

HEALTH CARE AND AGAINST
OBAMACARE THAN VOTED FOR PROP

OBAMACARE THAN VOTED FOR PROP
204.

204.
>> THE GOVERNOR CITES TWO VOTES

>> THE GOVERNOR CITES TWO VOTES
BY THE VOTERS IN ARIZONA TO

BY THE VOTERS IN ARIZONA TO
EXPAND MEDICAID, TO EXPAND

EXPAND MEDICAID, TO EXPAND
ACCESS IN THE STATE.

ACCESS IN THE STATE.
HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO IS THAT?

HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO IS THAT?
>> SHE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

>> SHE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT SHE

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT SHE
DID NOT TELL YOU IS THAT THAT

DID NOT TELL YOU IS THAT THAT
GROUP OF PEOPLE SUED PEOPLE LIKE

GROUP OF PEOPLE SUED PEOPLE LIKE
ME IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO

ME IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO
CHANGED THAT.

CHANGED THAT.
THEY LOST IN COURT.

THEY LOST IN COURT.
THE ARIZONA TRIAL COURT, THE

THE ARIZONA TRIAL COURT, THE
AA

AA
APPELLATE COURT AND SUPREME

APPELLATE COURT AND SUPREME
COURT REFUSED TO HEAR THE CASE,

COURT REFUSED TO HEAR THE CASE,
WHICH SAID FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR

WHICH SAID FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR
HEALTH CARE.

HEALTH CARE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE
APPELLATE COURT OF ARIZONA SAID

APPELLATE COURT OF ARIZONA SAID
IT'S UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO

IT'S UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO
DETERMINE WHERE TO SPEND THE

DETERMINE WHERE TO SPEND THE
PUBLIC'S MONEY, NOT THE COURTS.

PUBLIC'S MONEY, NOT THE COURTS.
SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S THE

SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S THE
ABSOLUTE WHEELHOUSE OF THE

ABSOLUTE WHEELHOUSE OF THE
LEGISLATURE TO APPROPRIATE THE

LEGISLATURE TO APPROPRIATE THE
MONIES OF THE STATE.

MONIES OF THE STATE.
AND FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE

AND FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE
MONEY.

MONEY.
CONGRESSMAN RYAN HAS MADE IT

CONGRESSMAN RYAN HAS MADE IT
CLEAR AS OF THIS LAST SUNDAY

CLEAR AS OF THIS LAST SUNDAY
THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO

THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO
FUND IT IN THE BUDGET.

FUND IT IN THE BUDGET.
SO WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A

SO WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A
REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR BE TALKING

REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR BE TALKING
ABOUT A DEFUNDED DEMOCRAT HEALTH

ABOUT A DEFUNDED DEMOCRAT HEALTH
CARE PLAN?

CARE PLAN?
I DON'T GET IT.

I DON'T GET IT.
IT'S DEFUNDED.

IT'S DEFUNDED.
THE COURTS HAVE SAID WE DON'T

THE COURTS HAVE SAID WE DON'T
HAVE TO DO IT.

HAVE TO DO IT.
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT,

THE U.S. SUPREME COURT,
MOREOVER, HAS SAID IT'S

MOREOVER, HAS SAID IT'S
OPTIONAL.

OPTIONAL.
SO FOR THE GOVERNOR TO RUN INTO

SO FOR THE GOVERNOR TO RUN INTO
AN OPTION THAT'S GOING TO RUN US

AN OPTION THAT'S GOING TO RUN US
INTO DEBT AND BANKRUPT THIS

INTO DEBT AND BANKRUPT THIS
STATE AND EVERY STATE IN THE

STATE AND EVERY STATE IN THE
UNION THAT DOES IT, GIVEN THAT

UNION THAT DOES IT, GIVEN THAT
FLORIDA HAS ALREADY SAID NO,

FLORIDA HAS ALREADY SAID NO,
UTAH HAS SAID NO, AND I HOPE

UTAH HAS SAID NO, AND I HOPE
MANY MORE STATES SAY NO.

MANY MORE STATES SAY NO.
>> AS AN EMERGENCY ROOM

>> AS AN EMERGENCY ROOM
PHYSICIAN, YOU SAID YOU'VE

PHYSICIAN, YOU SAID YOU'VE
EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE DOWN

EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE DOWN
SIDE OF THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH

SIDE OF THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH
COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T

COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T
AFFORD IT OTHERWISE.

AFFORD IT OTHERWISE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC
EXPERIENCES YOU COULD TELL US

EXPERIENCES YOU COULD TELL US
ABOUT IN THAT REGARD?

ABOUT IN THAT REGARD?
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
NOT ONLY PRACTICE BUT I RAN A

NOT ONLY PRACTICE BUT I RAN A
LARGE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.

LARGE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.
WE HAD LOTS OF PATIENTS THAT

WE HAD LOTS OF PATIENTS THAT
CAME IN, WHETHER -- I MEAN, AND

CAME IN, WHETHER -- I MEAN, AND
YOU CAN USE MENTAL HEALTH

YOU CAN USE MENTAL HEALTH
PATIENTS AS AN EXAMPLE.

PATIENTS AS AN EXAMPLE.
BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE

BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE
LONG-TERM CARE WHERE THEY'RE ON

LONG-TERM CARE WHERE THEY'RE ON
THEIR MEDS AND GET SOME

THEIR MEDS AND GET SOME
FOLLOW-UP, THEY END UP COMING TO

FOLLOW-UP, THEY END UP COMING TO
THE ER OFF THEIR MEDICATIONS.

THE ER OFF THEIR MEDICATIONS.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE BROUGHT

A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE BROUGHT
IN BY POLICE OFFICERS.

IN BY POLICE OFFICERS.
AND WE HAVE TO ADMIT THEM TO GET

AND WE HAVE TO ADMIT THEM TO GET
THEM BACK UNDER CONTROL, GET

THEM BACK UNDER CONTROL, GET
THEM ON THEIR MEDS.

THEM ON THEIR MEDS.
IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.

IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO FIND

AND THEN WE HAVE TO FIND
PLACEMENT FOR THEM.

PLACEMENT FOR THEM.
AND IF WE DON'T KEEP THEM ON

AND IF WE DON'T KEEP THEM ON
THEIR REGULAR MEDICATIONS, WHICH

THEIR REGULAR MEDICATIONS, WHICH
IS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, WE

IS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, WE
END UP INCURRING THESE LARGE

END UP INCURRING THESE LARGE
COSTS.

COSTS.
AND THEY'RE ALL COVERED EITHER

AND THEY'RE ALL COVERED EITHER
BY THE HOSPITAL AS UNCOMPENSATED

BY THE HOSPITAL AS UNCOMPENSATED
CARE AND THE PHYSICIANS AS

CARE AND THE PHYSICIANS AS
UNCOMPENSATED CARE.

UNCOMPENSATED CARE.
>> SO HOW DO WE PROVIDE HEALTH

>> SO HOW DO WE PROVIDE HEALTH
CARE FOR THOSE WHO DO NEED IT?

CARE FOR THOSE WHO DO NEED IT?
>> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO THE

>> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO THE
PATH TO PROSPERITY.

PATH TO PROSPERITY.
YOU KNOW, ARIZONA, I FULLY

YOU KNOW, ARIZONA, I FULLY
EXPECT TO GO THE SAME WAY THAT

EXPECT TO GO THE SAME WAY THAT
THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS DONE

THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS DONE
IN BUCKING A GOVERNOR WHO

IN BUCKING A GOVERNOR WHO
SUPPORTS OBAMACARE, THE

SUPPORTS OBAMACARE, THE
LEGISLATURE WILL STAND STRONG

LEGISLATURE WILL STAND STRONG
FOR THE TAXPAYER, AND WE WILL

FOR THE TAXPAYER, AND WE WILL
PUSH FOR FREE MARKET REFORMS

PUSH FOR FREE MARKET REFORMS
WHEREAS IF YOU WANT BIG

WHEREAS IF YOU WANT BIG
GOVERNMENT, GO TO CALIFORNIA.

GOVERNMENT, GO TO CALIFORNIA.
IF YOU WANT PROSPERITY, COME TO

IF YOU WANT PROSPERITY, COME TO
ARIZONA.

ARIZONA.
THAT'S THROUGH JOBS.

THAT'S THROUGH JOBS.
>> IN SPECIFIC TERMS, HOW DOES

>> IN SPECIFIC TERMS, HOW DOES
SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT NOW HAVE

SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT NOW HAVE
HEALTH CARE AND IS NOT NOW

HEALTH CARE AND IS NOT NOW
COVERED BY ACCESS OR MEDICAID

COVERED BY ACCESS OR MEDICAID
GET IT IN ARIZONA THROUGH YOUR

GET IT IN ARIZONA THROUGH YOUR
PATH?

PATH?
>> OUR PATH SAYS SMALL GROUPS,

>> OUR PATH SAYS SMALL GROUPS,
SMALL BUSINESSES CAN GROUP

SMALL BUSINESSES CAN GROUP
TOGETHER AND HAVE BETTER

TOGETHER AND HAVE BETTER
PURCHASING POWER FOR THEIR OWN

PURCHASING POWER FOR THEIR OWN
HEALTH CARE.

HEALTH CARE.
WE BELIEVE IN TORT REFORM TO

WE BELIEVE IN TORT REFORM TO
LIMIT OUTRAGEOUS LAWSUITS,

LIMIT OUTRAGEOUS LAWSUITS,
LOWERING THE COST OF HEALTH CARE

LOWERING THE COST OF HEALTH CARE
AS WELL AS HEALTH SAVINGS

AS WELL AS HEALTH SAVINGS
ACCOUNTS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO

ACCOUNTS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO
UNFORTUNATELY MIGHT LOSE THEIR

UNFORTUNATELY MIGHT LOSE THEIR
JOB ARE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR

JOB ARE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR
HEALTH CARE ALONG WITH THEM.

HEALTH CARE ALONG WITH THEM.
THIS FREE MARKET PATH IS A FAR

THIS FREE MARKET PATH IS A FAR
BETTER LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

BETTER LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
>> BREWER'S BATTLE WILL BE

>> BREWER'S BATTLE WILL BE
DOOR-TO-DOOR COMBAT IN THE HALLS

DOOR-TO-DOOR COMBAT IN THE HALLS
OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
WE ASKED LEGISLATORS WHAT THEY

WE ASKED LEGISLATORS WHAT THEY
THOUGHT OF THE CHANCES.

THOUGHT OF THE CHANCES.
GOVERNOR BREWER IS REALLY

GOVERNOR BREWER IS REALLY
CRANKING UP THE PRESSURE HERE.

CRANKING UP THE PRESSURE HERE.
SHE'S HAD A NUMBER OF RALLIES

SHE'S HAD A NUMBER OF RALLIES
INCLUDING ONE HERE THIS WEEK ON

INCLUDING ONE HERE THIS WEEK ON
THE CAPITOL LAWN.

THE CAPITOL LAWN.
WILL THAT BE RESISTED BY

WILL THAT BE RESISTED BY
REPUBLICANS?

REPUBLICANS?
>> IT ALREADY HAS BEEN.

>> IT ALREADY HAS BEEN.
I BELIEVE MOST, IF NOT EVERY,

I BELIEVE MOST, IF NOT EVERY,
COUNTY'S REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS

COUNTY'S REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS
COME OUT AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE

COME OUT AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE
EXPANSION.

EXPANSION.
THEY'RE AGAINST OBAMACARE.

THEY'RE AGAINST OBAMACARE.
AND FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT BUYING

AND FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT BUYING
WHAT SHE'S SELLING.

WHAT SHE'S SELLING.
SHE IS SELLING EMPTY PROMISES

SHE IS SELLING EMPTY PROMISES
FROM WASHINGTON, THOSE WHO ARE

FROM WASHINGTON, THOSE WHO ARE
SUPPORTING OBAMACARE ARE

SUPPORTING OBAMACARE ARE
SUPPORTING FURTHERING BUDGET

SUPPORTING FURTHERING BUDGET
DEFICITS, PUTTING ARIZONA ON THE

DEFICITS, PUTTING ARIZONA ON THE
SAME PATH OF FISCAL CLIFF THAT

SAME PATH OF FISCAL CLIFF THAT
THE COUNTRY HAS AS A WHOLE.

THE COUNTRY HAS AS A WHOLE.
WE LOOK TOWARD REAL SOLUTIONS

WE LOOK TOWARD REAL SOLUTIONS
AND LONG-TERM PROSPERITY TO

AND LONG-TERM PROSPERITY TO
SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.

SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.
>> AND DO YOU THINK IT HAS A

>> AND DO YOU THINK IT HAS A
GOOD CHANCE OF PASSAGE IN THE

GOOD CHANCE OF PASSAGE IN THE
SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE?

SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE?
>> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE
SAYING THAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE

SAYING THAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE
THE WHOLE STORY YET.

THE WHOLE STORY YET.
AND I THINK ONCE THEY GET THE

AND I THINK ONCE THEY GET THE
WHOLE STORY, WE'LL WIN SOME OF

WHOLE STORY, WE'LL WIN SOME OF
THEM OVER.

THEM OVER.
I THINK WE CAN GET IT PASSED.

I THINK WE CAN GET IT PASSED.
I KNOW WE CAN GET IT PASSED.

I KNOW WE CAN GET IT PASSED.
THE GOVERNOR HAS A VETO PIN, AND

THE GOVERNOR HAS A VETO PIN, AND
SHE CAN SIT UP THERE ALL SUMMER

SHE CAN SIT UP THERE ALL SUMMER
IF SHE WANTS UNTIL SHE GETS WHAT

IF SHE WANTS UNTIL SHE GETS WHAT
SHE WANTS.

SHE WANTS.
THE RIGHT THING WOULD BE TO GET

THE RIGHT THING WOULD BE TO GET
ALL THE FACTS, LET EVERYBODY

ALL THE FACTS, LET EVERYBODY
KNOW THE FACTS, AND THEN MOVE

KNOW THE FACTS, AND THEN MOVE
FORWARD WITH IT, AND I THINK WE

FORWARD WITH IT, AND I THINK WE
CAN DO IT.

CAN DO IT.
>> I WISH I HAD THE CRYSTAL

>> I WISH I HAD THE CRYSTAL
BALL.

BALL.
I HAVE MY FINGERS CROSSED.

I HAVE MY FINGERS CROSSED.
I HAVE MY EYES CROSSED, MY TOES

I HAVE MY EYES CROSSED, MY TOES
ARE CROSSED ON THIS ONE.

ARE CROSSED ON THIS ONE.
I REALLY HOPE SO.

I REALLY HOPE SO.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD AS A

I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD AS A
STATE TO NOT PASS IT.

STATE TO NOT PASS IT.
IT'S CRITICAL.

IT'S CRITICAL.
IT TRULY IS CRITICAL.

IT TRULY IS CRITICAL.
>> THIS IS MY THIRD TERM DOWN AT

>> THIS IS MY THIRD TERM DOWN AT
THE CAPITOL NOW.

THE CAPITOL NOW.
AND WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN, I

AND WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN, I
HAD BEEN ON A SCHOOL BOARD AND

HAD BEEN ON A SCHOOL BOARD AND
COME DOWN HERE LOBBYING.

COME DOWN HERE LOBBYING.
BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS YOU CAN

BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS YOU CAN
NEVER PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO

NEVER PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL.

HAPPEN DOWN HERE AT THE CAPITOL.
MY HOPE IS THAT WE MAKE A

MY HOPE IS THAT WE MAKE A
SENSIBLE DECISION.

SENSIBLE DECISION.
THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR

THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR
STATE IF WE DO EXPAND ACCESS TO

STATE IF WE DO EXPAND ACCESS TO
HEALTH CARE.

HEALTH CARE.
>> HANDICAP THE RESULTS HERE.

>> HANDICAP THE RESULTS HERE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> IT'S STILL TOUGH.

>> IT'S STILL TOUGH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GIVE

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GIVE
GOVERNOR BREWER CREDIT FOR

GOVERNOR BREWER CREDIT FOR
COMING OUT EARLY ON IN SESSION

COMING OUT EARLY ON IN SESSION
FROM DAY ONE, ACTUALLY, SAYING

FROM DAY ONE, ACTUALLY, SAYING
WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT SHE

WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT SHE
DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY SUPPORT

DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY SUPPORT
YET FROM HER GOP CAUCUS IN

YET FROM HER GOP CAUCUS IN
EITHER THE SENATE OR THE HOUSE.

EITHER THE SENATE OR THE HOUSE.
SO I'D SAY IT'S STILL TENUOUS.

SO I'D SAY IT'S STILL TENUOUS.
IT'S PROBABLY 50/50.

IT'S PROBABLY 50/50.
IT COULD GO EITHER WAY AT THIS

IT COULD GO EITHER WAY AT THIS
POINT.

POINT.
>> WELL, THE PEOPLE DESERVE A

>> WELL, THE PEOPLE DESERVE A
THING CALLED PROP 108.

THING CALLED PROP 108.
WHICH IF THE FEES ON THE TAXES

WHICH IF THE FEES ON THE TAXES
OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE

OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE
CHANGED, THE PEOPLE REQUIRE A

CHANGED, THE PEOPLE REQUIRE A
SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE

SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE
LEGISLATURE, THAT'S 40 AND 20.

LEGISLATURE, THAT'S 40 AND 20.
THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO SLIP

THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO SLIP
SLEW A LOOPHOLE AND PUT THIS BED

SLEW A LOOPHOLE AND PUT THIS BED
TAX IN PLACE PROBABLY WITHOUT A

TAX IN PLACE PROBABLY WITHOUT A
SUPER MAJORITY VOTE.

SUPER MAJORITY VOTE.
ONCE AGAIN, WE STILL NEED TO SEE

ONCE AGAIN, WE STILL NEED TO SEE
THE BILL.

THE BILL.
IT'S STILL NOT IN MY HANDS YET.

IT'S STILL NOT IN MY HANDS YET.
>> SHE'S CALLING IT A FEE, NOT A

>> SHE'S CALLING IT A FEE, NOT A
TAX.

TAX.
WOULD THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE?

WOULD THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE?
>> NO.

>> NO.
IN FACT, PROP 108 SAYS ANY

IN FACT, PROP 108 SAYS ANY
INCREASE IN REVENUE, IT REALLY

INCREASE IN REVENUE, IT REALLY
DOESN'T MATTER.

DOESN'T MATTER.
>> YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY

>> YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY
PRETEND TO BE CLAIRVOYANT ON

PRETEND TO BE CLAIRVOYANT ON
THAT.

THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE STILL EARLY ENOUGH

I MEAN, WE'RE STILL EARLY ENOUGH
IN THE PROCESS ON THIS SPECIFIC

IN THE PROCESS ON THIS SPECIFIC
BILL, AND I STILL THINK THERE'S

BILL, AND I STILL THINK THERE'S
TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A

TIME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A
LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF PUSH

LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF PUSH
AND PULL ON THIS.

AND PULL ON THIS.
I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THIS

I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THIS
BILL COMES OUT AS IT'S BEEN --

BILL COMES OUT AS IT'S BEEN --
IT WASN'T INTRODUCED, BUT IT WAS

IT WASN'T INTRODUCED, BUT IT WAS
PRESENTED TODAY TO THE PUBLIC.

PRESENTED TODAY TO THE PUBLIC.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO SEE SOME AMENDMENTS

GOING TO SEE SOME AMENDMENTS
THAT GO ON THIS THING WHICH

THAT GO ON THIS THING WHICH
MIGHT BRING SOME ON AND PUSH

MIGHT BRING SOME ON AND PUSH
SOME OFF.

SOME OFF.
IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO

IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO
PREDICT AND HANDICAP THAT RIGHT

PREDICT AND HANDICAP THAT RIGHT
NOW.

NOW.
>> WE'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OF YOUR

>> WE'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OF YOUR
COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE.

COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE.
AND THEY ARE DEAD SET AGAINST

AND THEY ARE DEAD SET AGAINST
THIS.

THIS.
HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GET IT

HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GET IT
THROUGH?

THROUGH?
>> WELL, I THINK THAT THERE ARE

>> WELL, I THINK THAT THERE ARE
90 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE,

90 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE,
IN THE HOUSE SPECIFICALLY WE

IN THE HOUSE SPECIFICALLY WE
HAVE 60.

HAVE 60.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON
RIGHT NOW, MEETING WITH

RIGHT NOW, MEETING WITH
DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES.

DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES.
AS WITH ANY BILL, THERE WILL BE

AS WITH ANY BILL, THERE WILL BE
PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR IT AND

PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR IT AND
PEOPLE THAT VOTE AGAINST IT.

PEOPLE THAT VOTE AGAINST IT.
SO AS WE INTRODUCE THE LANGUAGE

SO AS WE INTRODUCE THE LANGUAGE
AND GO THROUGH A SERIES OF

AND GO THROUGH A SERIES OF
EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIONAL

EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIONAL
HEARINGS AND MEETINGS, I THINK

HEARINGS AND MEETINGS, I THINK
THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL ALSO

THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL ALSO
SEE -- DRAW THE SAME CONCLUSION.

SEE -- DRAW THE SAME CONCLUSION.
I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY,

I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY,
THE GOVERNOR HAS A GREAT TRACK

THE GOVERNOR HAS A GREAT TRACK
RECORD.

RECORD.
WITH HAD SHE PUTS AN IDEA

WITH HAD SHE PUTS AN IDEA
FORWARD, WE ABSOLUTELY GET IT

FORWARD, WE ABSOLUTELY GET IT
DONE.

DONE.
WILL IT BE EASY?

WILL IT BE EASY?
NO.

NO.
BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT I THINK

BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT I THINK
WE'LL GET DONE AT THE END OF THE

WE'LL GET DONE AT THE END OF THE
DAY?

DAY?
I BELIEVE SO.

I BELIEVE SO.
AND I HOPE SO FOR THE CITIZENS

AND I HOPE SO FOR THE CITIZENS
OF ARIZONA.

OF ARIZONA.
>> AS WE'VE NOTED, THE GOVERNOR

>> AS WE'VE NOTED, THE GOVERNOR
CAUGHT MANY BY SURPRISE IN

CAUGHT MANY BY SURPRISE IN
CALLING FOR MEDICAID EXPANSION.

CALLING FOR MEDICAID EXPANSION.
WHAT'S BEHIND THAT AND WHAT'S

WHAT'S BEHIND THAT AND WHAT'S
HER MOTIVATION?

HER MOTIVATION?
TO GET A SENSE OF IT, I SPOKE

TO GET A SENSE OF IT, I SPOKE
WITH FERNANDO SANTOS, PHOENIX

WITH FERNANDO SANTOS, PHOENIX
BUREAU CHIEF OF "THE NEW YORK

BUREAU CHIEF OF "THE NEW YORK
TIMES."

TIMES."
SHE HAS REPORTED AND WRITTEN

SHE HAS REPORTED AND WRITTEN
EXTENSIVELY ABOUT BREWER AND

EXTENSIVELY ABOUT BREWER AND
STATE POLITICS INCLUDING A PIECE

STATE POLITICS INCLUDING A PIECE
ON MEDICAID JUST THIS WEEK.

ON MEDICAID JUST THIS WEEK.
FERNANDA, THANKS FOR SPEAKING

FERNANDA, THANKS FOR SPEAKING
WITH ME.

WITH ME.
>> MY PLEASURE.

>> MY PLEASURE.
>> IT'S NOT POLITICS AS USUAL IN

>> IT'S NOT POLITICS AS USUAL IN
ARIZONA RIGHT NOW WITH GOVERNOR

ARIZONA RIGHT NOW WITH GOVERNOR
BREWER PUSHING FOR HER MEDICAID

BREWER PUSHING FOR HER MEDICAID
EXPANSION.

EXPANSION.
WHAT'S CAUSING THAT SHIFT?

WHAT'S CAUSING THAT SHIFT?
>> WELL, THE INTERESTING THING

>> WELL, THE INTERESTING THING
ABOUT GOVERNOR BREWER IS THAT

ABOUT GOVERNOR BREWER IS THAT
SHE'S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE

SHE'S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE
POLITICIAN.

POLITICIAN.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE YEARS SHE

IF YOU LOOK AT THE YEARS SHE
SPENT IN STATE GOVERNMENT HERE,

SPENT IN STATE GOVERNMENT HERE,
LOOK BACK TO 2009, EARLY 2010,

LOOK BACK TO 2009, EARLY 2010,
YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SHE PUSHED

YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SHE PUSHED
VERY HARD FOR THE TEMPORARY

VERY HARD FOR THE TEMPORARY
SALES TAX INCREASE HERE IN

SALES TAX INCREASE HERE IN
ARIZONA AS A WAY TO OFFSET SOME

ARIZONA AS A WAY TO OFFSET SOME
OF THE DEEP CUTS THEY HAD TO

OF THE DEEP CUTS THEY HAD TO
MAKE ON THE BUDGET.

MAKE ON THE BUDGET.
AND THAT WAS A VERY UNPOPULAR

AND THAT WAS A VERY UNPOPULAR
MEASURE WITH REPUBLICANS.

MEASURE WITH REPUBLICANS.
SHE NONETHELESS KEPT GOING, TOOK

SHE NONETHELESS KEPT GOING, TOOK
THE ISSUE TO THE VOTERS.

THE ISSUE TO THE VOTERS.
THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS SALES

THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS SALES
TAX INCREASE, AND WE HAVE IT IN

TAX INCREASE, AND WE HAVE IT IN
PLACE UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR.

PLACE UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR.
AND SLEAHE'S DOING IT AGAIN RIG

AND SLEAHE'S DOING IT AGAIN RIG
NOW.

NOW.
SHE IS PUSHING A MEASURE, THE

SHE IS PUSHING A MEASURE, THE
EXPANSION OF MEDICAID, WHICH IS

EXPANSION OF MEDICAID, WHICH IS
VERY POPULAR WITH DEMOCRATS,

VERY POPULAR WITH DEMOCRATS,
HIGHLY UNPOPULAR WITH

HIGHLY UNPOPULAR WITH
REPUBLICANS.

REPUBLICANS.
AND IF SHE HAS GONE ALL OUT,

AND IF SHE HAS GONE ALL OUT,
SHE'S TRAVELED THE STATE.

SHE'S TRAVELED THE STATE.
SHE'S HELD EVENTS, RIGHT OUTSIDE

SHE'S HELD EVENTS, RIGHT OUTSIDE
OF THE CAPITOL.

OF THE CAPITOL.
AND SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET

AND SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET
THIS PASSED.

THIS PASSED.
SO IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A

SO IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A
TYPICAL REPUBLICAN REACTION, BUT

TYPICAL REPUBLICAN REACTION, BUT
IT'S A REPUBLICAN REACTION BASED

IT'S A REPUBLICAN REACTION BASED
ON THE FINANCIAL REALITIES OF

ON THE FINANCIAL REALITIES OF
THE STATE AS SHE PUT IT.

THE STATE AS SHE PUT IT.
>> SO THE FINANCIAL REALITIES,

>> SO THE FINANCIAL REALITIES,
ARE THEY THE MOTIVATION FOR HER?

ARE THEY THE MOTIVATION FOR HER?
>> WELL, THAT'S THE MAIN

>> WELL, THAT'S THE MAIN
MOTIVATION NOT ONLY FOR HER BUT

MOTIVATION NOT ONLY FOR HER BUT
FOR OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS

FOR OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS
WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SAME

WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SAME
POSITION.

POSITION.
ONE OF THEM BEING THE NEIGHBOR

ONE OF THEM BEING THE NEIGHBOR
TO THE EAST, NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR

TO THE EAST, NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR
SUSANA MARTINEZ, GOVERNOR DUVALL

SUSANA MARTINEZ, GOVERNOR DUVALL
OF NEVADA, OTHER GOVERNORS IN

OF NEVADA, OTHER GOVERNORS IN
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE.

DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE.
THAT'S THE MAIN THING THEY

THAT'S THE MAIN THING THEY
MENTIONED HERE.

MENTIONED HERE.
BUT THE INTERESTING THING, IF

BUT THE INTERESTING THING, IF
YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF THE NATION,

YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF THE NATION,
AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE REPUBLICAN

AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE REPUBLICAN
GOVERNORS STAND ON MEDICAID

GOVERNORS STAND ON MEDICAID
EXPANSION, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN

EXPANSION, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN
THE SOUTH, THERE IS OVERWHELMING

THE SOUTH, THERE IS OVERWHELMING
OPPOSITION TO THE EXPANSION

OPPOSITION TO THE EXPANSION
WHEREAS IN THE SOUTHWEST, THE

WHEREAS IN THE SOUTHWEST, THE
REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ARE ALL IN

REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ARE ALL IN
FAVOR OF IT.

FAVOR OF IT.
YOU KNOW, ONE CANNOT OVERLOOK

YOU KNOW, ONE CANNOT OVERLOOK
THE FACT THAT IN THE SOUTHWEST,

THE FACT THAT IN THE SOUTHWEST,
THERE HAS BEEN A PROFOUND --

THERE HAS BEEN A PROFOUND --
THERE IS A PROFOUND

THERE IS A PROFOUND
TRANSFORMATION OCCURRING OF THE

TRANSFORMATION OCCURRING OF THE
ELECTORATE HERE WITH THE

ELECTORATE HERE WITH THE
INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LATINO

INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LATINO
VOTERS WHO TEND TO BE

VOTERS WHO TEND TO BE
DEMOCRAT -- OR ACTUALLY

DEMOCRAT -- OR ACTUALLY
OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS.

OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS.
ONE CANNOT FORGET THAT IF ANYONE

ONE CANNOT FORGET THAT IF ANYONE
HAS HIGHER ASPIRATIONS,

HAS HIGHER ASPIRATIONS,
POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS HERE, HE

POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS HERE, HE
OR SHE CANNOT OVERLOOK THAT

OR SHE CANNOT OVERLOOK THAT
PORTION OF THE ELECTORATE WHICH

PORTION OF THE ELECTORATE WHICH
HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE THE

HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE THE
SIZE OF ESPECIALLY IN THE

SIZE OF ESPECIALLY IN THE
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IN NEVADA

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IN NEVADA
MORE SPECIFICALLY, IN HELPING

MORE SPECIFICALLY, IN HELPING
ELECT PRESIDENT OBAMA.

ELECT PRESIDENT OBAMA.
>> IS GOVERNOR BREWER SEEKING

>> IS GOVERNOR BREWER SEEKING
LEGACY HERE, OR DOES SHE HAVE

LEGACY HERE, OR DOES SHE HAVE
SOME HIGHER MOTIVATION FOR

SOME HIGHER MOTIVATION FOR
TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED?

TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING HER VERY

HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING HER VERY
CLOSELY WILL SAY THAT ONE OF HER

CLOSELY WILL SAY THAT ONE OF HER
INTERESTS IS TO TAKE THE

INTERESTS IS TO TAKE THE
ATTENTION AWAY FROM IMMIGRATION,

ATTENTION AWAY FROM IMMIGRATION,
RIGHT?

RIGHT?
SHE HAS BEEN KNOWN ACROSS THE

SHE HAS BEEN KNOWN ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AS THE GOVERNOR WHO

COUNTRY AS THE GOVERNOR WHO
PASSED THE FIRST AND ONE OF THE

PASSED THE FIRST AND ONE OF THE
MOST RESTRICTIVE IMMIGRATION

MOST RESTRICTIVE IMMIGRATION
LAWS IN THE COUNTRY.

LAWS IN THE COUNTRY.
SHE HAS STOOD VERY STEADFASTLY

SHE HAS STOOD VERY STEADFASTLY
ON HER POSITION ABOUT SECURING

ON HER POSITION ABOUT SECURING
THE BORDERS.

THE BORDERS.
AND SHE HAS NOT WAVERED FROM IT

AND SHE HAS NOT WAVERED FROM IT
AT ANY MOMENT.

AT ANY MOMENT.
THAT'S WHAT SHE'S KNOWN FOR,

THAT'S WHAT SHE'S KNOWN FOR,
REMEMBERED FOR.

REMEMBERED FOR.
MAYBE NOT SO MUCH IN ARIZONA BUT

MAYBE NOT SO MUCH IN ARIZONA BUT
CERTAINLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE

CERTAINLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE
COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.
SO THERE ISN'T A MOTIVATION TO

SO THERE ISN'T A MOTIVATION TO
KIND OF BE KNOWN FOR SOMETHING

KIND OF BE KNOWN FOR SOMETHING
OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH IS NOT A

OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH IS NOT A
VERY POSITIVE LEGACY.

VERY POSITIVE LEGACY.
IF ONE IS TO LOOK AT NATIONALLY

IF ONE IS TO LOOK AT NATIONALLY
HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE HER.

HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE HER.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SHE IS A

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SHE IS A
PRAGMATIC, AND SHE'S SURROUNDED

PRAGMATIC, AND SHE'S SURROUNDED
BY VERY PRAGMATIC PEOPLE.

BY VERY PRAGMATIC PEOPLE.
AND A LOT OF HER DECISIONS ARE

AND A LOT OF HER DECISIONS ARE
MADE NOT ON HER OWN, BUT SHE

MADE NOT ON HER OWN, BUT SHE
MAKES THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH

MAKES THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH
ADVISERS WHO HAVE TAKEN A VERY

ADVISERS WHO HAVE TAKEN A VERY
PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO THE VERY

PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO THE VERY
SORT OF DOLLARS AND CENTS

SORT OF DOLLARS AND CENTS
APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE.

APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE.
IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE STATE

IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE STATE
FINANCIALLY.

FINANCIALLY.
IT IS A 90% REIMBURSEMENT FROM

IT IS A 90% REIMBURSEMENT FROM
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST
IN THE BEGINNING.

IN THE BEGINNING.
SHE HAS BUILT IN A CIRCUIT

SHE HAS BUILT IN A CIRCUIT
BREAKER AS SHE CALLS IT, WHICH

BREAKER AS SHE CALLS IT, WHICH
IS THAT IF THE REIMBURSEMENT

IS THAT IF THE REIMBURSEMENT
GOES BELOW 80%, SHE WOULD NO

GOES BELOW 80%, SHE WOULD NO
LONGER COVER CHILDLESS ADULTS.

LONGER COVER CHILDLESS ADULTS.
SHE'S SORT OF SHIELDING HERSELF

SHE'S SORT OF SHIELDING HERSELF
FROM CRITICISM FROM THE

FROM CRITICISM FROM THE
REPUBLICANS WHILE AT THE SAME

REPUBLICANS WHILE AT THE SAME
TIME BUILDING SUPPORT FOR THIS

TIME BUILDING SUPPORT FOR THIS
ARGUMENT THAT THE STATE WILL

ARGUMENT THAT THE STATE WILL
SAVE MONEY IF IT EXPANDS

SAVE MONEY IF IT EXPANDS
MEDICAID.

MEDICAID.
>> NOW, YOU MENTIONED DOLLARS

>> NOW, YOU MENTIONED DOLLARS
AND CENTS.

AND CENTS.
AND THE REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION TO

AND THE REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION TO
THIS HAS ITS OWN ARGUMENT ABOUT

THIS HAS ITS OWN ARGUMENT ABOUT
DOLLARS AND CENTS, THAT THIS IS

DOLLARS AND CENTS, THAT THIS IS
ADDING TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT,

ADDING TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT,
THAT IT CAN'T BE AFFORDED

THAT IT CAN'T BE AFFORDED
OVERALL.

OVERALL.
HOW IS SHE GOING TO OVERCOME

HOW IS SHE GOING TO OVERCOME
THAT?

THAT?
IS THERE ENOUGH MOMENTUM

IS THERE ENOUGH MOMENTUM
BUILDING TO ALLOW HER TO DO

BUILDING TO ALLOW HER TO DO
THAT?

THAT?
>> SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET THIS

>> SHE IS DETERMINED TO GET THIS
PASSED.

PASSED.
AS HER SPOKESMAN PUT TO ME, WHEN

AS HER SPOKESMAN PUT TO ME, WHEN
SHE DIGS IN HER HEELS, SHE DIGS

SHE DIGS IN HER HEELS, SHE DIGS
THEM IN, AND SHE WILL GO

THEM IN, AND SHE WILL GO
FORWARD.

FORWARD.
THE LEGISLATURE IS AN

THE LEGISLATURE IS AN
INTERESTING BODY BECAUSE AS YOU

INTERESTING BODY BECAUSE AS YOU
KNOW WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY

KNOW WELL, EVEN THOUGH THEY
MIGHT USE ARGUMENTS, FINANCIAL

MIGHT USE ARGUMENTS, FINANCIAL
ARGUMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO

ARGUMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO
JUSTIFY THEIR POSITION AGAINST

JUSTIFY THEIR POSITION AGAINST
THE EXPANSION, IT IS A VERY

THE EXPANSION, IT IS A VERY
POLITICAL BODY AND A VERY -- AND

POLITICAL BODY AND A VERY -- AND
WHEN IT COMES TO THE

WHEN IT COMES TO THE
REPUBLICANS, THERE IS A VERY

REPUBLICANS, THERE IS A VERY
STRONG TEA PARTY TYPE OF

STRONG TEA PARTY TYPE OF
MENTALITY AMONG MANY OF THE

MENTALITY AMONG MANY OF THE
REPUBLICANS HERE WHO ARE VERY

REPUBLICANS HERE WHO ARE VERY
TIED TO THE IDEAS OF NOT

TIED TO THE IDEAS OF NOT
EXPANDING THE DEFICIT, NOT

EXPANDING THE DEFICIT, NOT
CONTRIBUTING TO A BIGGER ROLE OF

CONTRIBUTING TO A BIGGER ROLE OF
GOVERNMENT IN THE LIVES OF S

GOVERNMENT IN THE LIVES OF S
CITIZ

CITIZ
CITIZENS, VERY PHILOSOPHICAL

CITIZENS, VERY PHILOSOPHICAL
IDEOLOGICAL POSITIONS AGAINST

IDEOLOGICAL POSITIONS AGAINST
THE HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT

THE HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT
PRESIDENT OBAMA PROPOSED, AND

PRESIDENT OBAMA PROPOSED, AND
THAT IS NOW A LAW IN THIS

THAT IS NOW A LAW IN THIS
COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.
SO YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT

SO YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT
SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO

SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO
LITTLE STILL SOMEWHAT UP IN THE

LITTLE STILL SOMEWHAT UP IN THE
AIR.

AIR.
I'M SURE THAT HER PEOPLE ARE

I'M SURE THAT HER PEOPLE ARE
WORKING HARD.

WORKING HARD.
WHEN I TALK TO MANY PEOPLE IN

WHEN I TALK TO MANY PEOPLE IN
THIS EFFORT, THEY SEEM TO THINK

THIS EFFORT, THEY SEEM TO THINK
THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE, BUT

THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE, BUT
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE

THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO GET IT THROUGH.

TO GET IT THROUGH.
>> DEMOCRATS SEEM UNITED IN

>> DEMOCRATS SEEM UNITED IN
FAVOR OF IT.

FAVOR OF IT.
AND IN FACT, THIS SEEMS TO HAVE

AND IN FACT, THIS SEEMS TO HAVE
GIVEN DEMOCRATS HERE IN THE

GIVEN DEMOCRATS HERE IN THE
LEGISLATURE SOME ENERGY AFTER

LEGISLATURE SOME ENERGY AFTER
YEARS AND YEARS OF NOT LETHARGY

YEARS AND YEARS OF NOT LETHARGY
BUT OF ALMOST VOICELESS BECAUSE

BUT OF ALMOST VOICELESS BECAUSE
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POWER.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POWER.
ARE THEY GOING TO HOLD TOGETHER

ARE THEY GOING TO HOLD TOGETHER
ON THIS?

ON THIS?
>> IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION

>> IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION
BECAUSE I SPOKE TO SOME LEADERS

BECAUSE I SPOKE TO SOME LEADERS
IN THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS, AND

IN THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS, AND
THEY EXPRESS A LITTLE CONCERN

THEY EXPRESS A LITTLE CONCERN
ABOUT THE FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS

ABOUT THE FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS
BECAUSE THE HOUSE SPEAKER, ANDY

BECAUSE THE HOUSE SPEAKER, ANDY
BIGGS, A REPUBLICAN --

BIGGS, A REPUBLICAN --
>> ANDY TOEBBIN.

>> ANDY TOEBBIN.
>> I'M SORRY.

>> I'M SORRY.
HE'S BEEN MEETING WITH THEM.

HE'S BEEN MEETING WITH THEM.
HE CAN DECIDE WHICH BILLS GET

HE CAN DECIDE WHICH BILLS GET
THROUGH, WHICH BILLS DON'T.

THROUGH, WHICH BILLS DON'T.
AND NOT THAT NOBODY SAID THAT

AND NOT THAT NOBODY SAID THAT
HE'S BEEN EXPLICITLY USING HIS

HE'S BEEN EXPLICITLY USING HIS
POWER TO TRY TO GET THEM --

POWER TO TRY TO GET THEM --
FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS TO VOTE

FRESHMEN DEMOCRATS TO VOTE
AGAINST THE EXPANSION, BUT I

AGAINST THE EXPANSION, BUT I
THINK IT'S EMPLOYEED THAT IF

THINK IT'S EMPLOYEED THAT IF
THEY'RE MEETING WITH YOU AND

THEY'RE MEETING WITH YOU AND
DISCUSSING HOW TO GET THEIR

DISCUSSING HOW TO GET THEIR
BILLS THROUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW --

BILLS THROUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW --
AND HE IS BRINGING UP THE

AND HE IS BRINGING UP THE
MEDICAID ISSUE, THEN MAYBE THERE

MEDICAID ISSUE, THEN MAYBE THERE
IS SOMETHING THEY CAN WORK OUT

IS SOMETHING THEY CAN WORK OUT
IN BETWEEN.

IN BETWEEN.
BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY, IT IS A

BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY, IT IS A
DEFINING MOMENT FOR THE

DEFINING MOMENT FOR THE
DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE WHO HAVE

DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE WHO HAVE
BEEN VIRTUALLY WITHOUT ANY POWER

BEEN VIRTUALLY WITHOUT ANY POWER
FOR DECADES HERE.

FOR DECADES HERE.
AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR

AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR
DEMOCRATS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

DEMOCRATS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND THEY FEEL ALMOST THAT IT'S

AND THEY FEEL ALMOST THAT IT'S
THEIR DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO

THEIR DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO
HELP THE GOVERNOR IN EVERY WAY

HELP THE GOVERNOR IN EVERY WAY
THEY CAN TO GET THIS PASSED, NOT

THEY CAN TO GET THIS PASSED, NOT
STAND IN HER WAY, MEANING NOT

STAND IN HER WAY, MEANING NOT
MAKING ANY OF THE MEMBERS VOTE

MAKING ANY OF THE MEMBERS VOTE
AGAINST THE EXPANSION.

AGAINST THE EXPANSION.
>> FERNANDA SANTOS, THANKS FOR

>> FERNANDA SANTOS, THANKS FOR
SPEAKING WITH ME.

SPEAKING WITH ME.
>> MY PLEASURE.

>> MY PLEASURE.
IT WAS GREAT BEING HERE.

IT WAS GREAT BEING HERE.
>> THERE'S MORE ON MEDICAID AND

>> THERE'S MORE ON MEDICAID AND
BREWER'S EXPANSION PLAN ON OUR

BREWER'S EXPANSION PLAN ON OUR
WEBSITE.

WEBSITE.
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY,

THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY,
MARCH 15th, 2013.

MARCH 15th, 2013.
NEXT WEEK, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT

NEXT WEEK, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT
OFFICIALS ARE CALLING A DRAMATIC

OFFICIALS ARE CALLING A DRAMATIC
SHIFT IN THE STATE

SHIFT IN THE STATE
TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S

TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S
HIGHWAY PRIORITIES.

HIGHWAY PRIORITIES.
FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL

FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL
CHEHA.

>>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
SUPPORT.