>>> GOVERNOR JANUARY BREWER
SURPRISED ARIZONA SAYING SHE

SURPRISED ARIZONA SAYING SHE
WANTS TO USE THE FEDERAL

WANTS TO USE THE FEDERAL
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO EXPAND

AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO EXPAND
MEDICAID.

MEDICAID.
>> TODAY WE ARE FACED WITH THIS

>> TODAY WE ARE FACED WITH THIS
EXPANSION THAT IS SOMETHING THE

EXPANSION THAT IS SOMETHING THE
VOTERS ALREADY AGREED TO.

VOTERS ALREADY AGREED TO.
THEY SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

THEY SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE SUFFERING

THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE SUFFERING
WITHOUT INSURANCE.

WITHOUT INSURANCE.
>> THE GOVERNOR SAID SHE WANTS

>> THE GOVERNOR SAID SHE WANTS
TO CHANGE THE WAY SCHOOLS ARE

TO CHANGE THE WAY SCHOOLS ARE
FUNDED TO INSTITUTIONALIZE

FUNDED TO INSTITUTIONALIZE
HIGHER STANDARDS.

HIGHER STANDARDS.
>> WITH PERFORMANCE BASED

>> WITH PERFORMANCE BASED
RATIONAL, THOSE THAT IMPROVE,

RATIONAL, THOSE THAT IMPROVE,
THEN THEY WILL GET ADDITIONAL

THEN THEY WILL GET ADDITIONAL
FUNDING.

FUNDING.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY WON'T.

IF THEY DON'T, THEY WON'T.
>> TONIGHT, THE GOVERNOR'S PLANS

>> TONIGHT, THE GOVERNOR'S PLANS
AND REACTION TO THEM.

AND REACTION TO THEM.
IT'S ARIZONA WEEK.

IT'S ARIZONA WEEK.
>>> Announcer: PRODUCTION OF

>>> Announcer: PRODUCTION OF
ARIZONA WEEK IS MADE POSSIBLE IN

ARIZONA WEEK IS MADE POSSIBLE IN
PART BY GRANTS AND MEMBERS OF

PART BY GRANTS AND MEMBERS OF
THE ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.

THE ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUES

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUES
PUBLIC SUPPORT.

PUBLIC SUPPORT.
¶

¶
>>> Announcer: ONCE AGAIN, YOUR

>>> Announcer: ONCE AGAIN, YOUR
MODERATOR, MICHAEL CHIHAK.

MODERATOR, MICHAEL CHIHAK.
>> GOVERNOR BREWER RELEASED HER

>> GOVERNOR BREWER RELEASED HER
PROPOSAL PLANNING FOR A BIG

PROPOSAL PLANNING FOR A BIG
EXPANSE OF HEALTH CARE FOR THE

EXPANSE OF HEALTH CARE FOR THE
POOR AND A SHIFT IN HOW PUBLIC

POOR AND A SHIFT IN HOW PUBLIC
EDUCATION IS FUNDED.

EDUCATION IS FUNDED.
WE SPOKE WITH HER EARLIER IN THE

WE SPOKE WITH HER EARLIER IN THE
WEEK ASKING FIRST ABOUT

WEEK ASKING FIRST ABOUT
MEDICAID.

MEDICAID.
YOU CALLED FOR EXPANSION OF

YOU CALLED FOR EXPANSION OF
MEDICAID UNDER THE AFFORDABLE

MEDICAID UNDER THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT TO REACH PERHAPS

CARE ACT TO REACH PERHAPS
ANOTHER 240,000 ARIZONA WITHOUT

ANOTHER 240,000 ARIZONA WITHOUT
INSURANCE.

INSURANCE.
WHAT WERE THE FACTORS IN COMING

WHAT WERE THE FACTORS IN COMING
TO THAT DECISION?

TO THAT DECISION?
>> THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING

>> THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
FOR A LONG TIME DURING DIFFICULT

FOR A LONG TIME DURING DIFFICULT
TIMES.

TIMES.
VOTERS VOTED TWICE TO EXPAND

VOTERS VOTED TWICE TO EXPAND
MEDICAID.

MEDICAID.
WE HAD TO GO IN AND DO SERIOUS

WE HAD TO GO IN AND DO SERIOUS
THINKING ABOUT HOW WE WERE GOING

THINKING ABOUT HOW WE WERE GOING
TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET.

TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET.
WE PUT A PLACE HOLDER ON THE

WE PUT A PLACE HOLDER ON THE
ADULTS.

ADULTS.
THROUGH ATTRITION, THE PEOPLE

THROUGH ATTRITION, THE PEOPLE
FELL OFF THE ACCESS ROLES.

FELL OFF THE ACCESS ROLES.
TODAY, WE ARE FACED WITH THIS

TODAY, WE ARE FACED WITH THIS
EXPANSION THAT IS SOMETHING THE

EXPANSION THAT IS SOMETHING THE
VOTERS ALREADY AGREED TO.

VOTERS ALREADY AGREED TO.
THEY HAVE SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY

THEY HAVE SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY
WANT.

WANT.
THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE SUFFERING

THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE SUFFERING
WITHOUT INSURANCE.

WITHOUT INSURANCE.
ARIZONA CAN BENEFIT BY DOING

ARIZONA CAN BENEFIT BY DOING
THIS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACTS

THIS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACTS
AND FIGURES.

AND FIGURES.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXPAND

WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXPAND
MEDICAID, DELIVER GOOD SERVICES

MEDICAID, DELIVER GOOD SERVICES
AND IT WON'T COST THE TAXPAYERS

AND IT WON'T COST THE TAXPAYERS
ANY MONEY, NONE AT ALL.

ANY MONEY, NONE AT ALL.
WE ARE PAYING FOR THESE PEOPLE

WE ARE PAYING FOR THESE PEOPLE
WE ARE GOING TO SERVE THROUGH A

WE ARE GOING TO SERVE THROUGH A
HIDDEN TAX.

HIDDEN TAX.
BY BUYING OUR INSURANCE, WE ARE

BY BUYING OUR INSURANCE, WE ARE
PAYING FOR THE UNINSURED THAT

PAYING FOR THE UNINSURED THAT
THE HOSPITALS PROVIDE SERVICES

THE HOSPITALS PROVIDE SERVICES
TO, WHICH AMOUNTS TO MILLIONS

TO, WHICH AMOUNTS TO MILLIONS
AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF

AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS.

DOLLARS.
>> WOULD YOU SAY IT'S A MOVE OF

>> WOULD YOU SAY IT'S A MOVE OF
POLITICAL PRAGMATISM ON YOUR

POLITICAL PRAGMATISM ON YOUR
PART?

PART?
IS IT AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT

IS IT AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT
GOVERNMENT HAS A ROLE IN TRYING

GOVERNMENT HAS A ROLE IN TRYING
TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE?

TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE?
>> I THINK THAT IT IS PRAGMATIC

>> I THINK THAT IT IS PRAGMATIC
THAT WE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO

THAT WE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO
LOOK AT THE FACTS AND FIGURES.

LOOK AT THE FACTS AND FIGURES.
DO THE MATH.

DO THE MATH.
ANYBODY CAN DO THE MATH.

ANYBODY CAN DO THE MATH.
IT'S A WIN/WIN.

IT'S A WIN/WIN.
IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
>> WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS

>> WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS
HAVE YOU HAD WITH LEGISLATURES

HAVE YOU HAD WITH LEGISLATURES
WHO MAY BE RELUCTANT TO DO THIS

WHO MAY BE RELUCTANT TO DO THIS
INCLUDING LEGISLATURES IN

INCLUDING LEGISLATURES IN
ARIZONA SAYING THEY HAVE AN

ARIZONA SAYING THEY HAVE AN
OBLIGATION NOT TO SPEND THE

OBLIGATION NOT TO SPEND THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S MONEY.

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S MONEY.
>> AGAIN, LET ME ANSWER THE LAST

>> AGAIN, LET ME ANSWER THE LAST
QUESTION FIRST.

QUESTION FIRST.
NOT THE SPEND THE FEDERAL

NOT THE SPEND THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT'S MONEY.

GOVERNMENT'S MONEY.
IF WE DON'T USE IT TO BENEFIT

IF WE DON'T USE IT TO BENEFIT
OUR CITIZENS AND OUR ECONOMY AND

OUR CITIZENS AND OUR ECONOMY AND
OUR JOB GROWTH AND PROTECT OUR

OUR JOB GROWTH AND PROTECT OUR
HOSPITALS FROM GOING BANKRUPT,

HOSPITALS FROM GOING BANKRUPT,
SOME OTHER STATE WILL.

SOME OTHER STATE WILL.
IT'S NOT GOING TO REDUCE THE

IT'S NOT GOING TO REDUCE THE
FEDERAL DEFICIT ONE PENNY.

FEDERAL DEFICIT ONE PENNY.
>> WILL THE BALANCE IN THE

>> WILL THE BALANCE IN THE
LEGISLATURE THAT'S CHANGED SINCE

LEGISLATURE THAT'S CHANGED SINCE
THE ELECTION STILL REPUBLICAN

THE ELECTION STILL REPUBLICAN
MAJORITIES IN BOTH HOUSES BUT

MAJORITIES IN BOTH HOUSES BUT
SMALLER REPUBLICAN MAJORITIES,

SMALLER REPUBLICAN MAJORITIES,
WILL THAT WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

WILL THAT WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE
IN THIS?

IN THIS?
DEMOCRATS WOULD BE EXPECTED TO

DEMOCRATS WOULD BE EXPECTED TO
SUPPORT THIS.

SUPPORT THIS.
>> I THINK WITH THE TENOR OF

>> I THINK WITH THE TENOR OF
EVERYBODY COMING FORWARD AFTER

EVERYBODY COMING FORWARD AFTER
THE ROUGHEST OF TIMES ARIZONA

THE ROUGHEST OF TIMES ARIZONA
FACED, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE

FACED, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE
UPLIFTING.

UPLIFTING.
THEY WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.

THEY WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPEFUL FOR.

THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPEFUL FOR.
YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO THE

YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO THE
PERCENTAGES, IT IS.

PERCENTAGES, IT IS.
IT PROBABLY WILL BE A LITTLE BIT

IT PROBABLY WILL BE A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT.

DIFFERENT.
I JUST WANT GOOD ELECTED

I JUST WANT GOOD ELECTED
OFFICIALS DOING THE RIGHT

OFFICIALS DOING THE RIGHT
THINGS.

THINGS.
GETTING THE FACTS AND DOING WHAT

GETTING THE FACTS AND DOING WHAT
THEY BELIEVE IS BEST FOR THEIR

THEY BELIEVE IS BEST FOR THEIR
CONSTITUENTS.

CONSTITUENTS.
I BELIEVE WITH MEDICAID, THEY

I BELIEVE WITH MEDICAID, THEY
WILL COME TO THE SAME

WILL COME TO THE SAME
CONCLUSION.

CONCLUSION.
I DID NOT DO THIS LIGHTLY.

I DID NOT DO THIS LIGHTLY.
I TOOK IT UNDER GREAT

I TOOK IT UNDER GREAT
DELIBERATION AND CONSIDERATION

DELIBERATION AND CONSIDERATION
AS I EXPECT THEY WILL.

AS I EXPECT THEY WILL.
ONCE I MADE UP MY MIND, I KNEW

ONCE I MADE UP MY MIND, I KNEW
ABSOLUTELY AS THE GOVERNOR OF

ABSOLUTELY AS THE GOVERNOR OF
THE STATE AND I GOVERN THAT THIS

THE STATE AND I GOVERN THAT THIS
IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND

IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND
THAT I WILL BE COMMITTED TO IT

THAT I WILL BE COMMITTED TO IT
AND DOING THE RIGHT THING

AND DOING THE RIGHT THING
DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN DOING THE

DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN DOING THE
EASY THING, YOU KNOW?

EASY THING, YOU KNOW?
THIS SHOULD BE EASY, BY THE WAY,

THIS SHOULD BE EASY, BY THE WAY,
BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE.

BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE.
>> ARIZONA MATCH UNDER THIS WILL

>> ARIZONA MATCH UNDER THIS WILL
BE COVERED UNDER YOUR PROPOSAL

BE COVERED UNDER YOUR PROPOSAL
BY A PROVIDER TAX, IF YOU WILL,

BY A PROVIDER TAX, IF YOU WILL,
OR A PROVIDER FEE.

OR A PROVIDER FEE.
>> ASSESSMENT.

>> ASSESSMENT.
>> HOW WILL THAT WORK AND WHAT

>> HOW WILL THAT WORK AND WHAT
BUY IN DO YOU HAVE FROM THE

BUY IN DO YOU HAVE FROM THE
HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY?

HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY?
>> THE HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION AND

>> THE HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION AND
THE INDUSTRIES OUT THERE ARE

THE INDUSTRIES OUT THERE ARE
SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
THEY WILL ASSESS A BED TAX ON

THEY WILL ASSESS A BED TAX ON
THEIR FACILITIES AND USE THAT

THEIR FACILITIES AND USE THAT
MONEY TO GO TO THE FEDERAL

MONEY TO GO TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO GET THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT TO GET THE FEDERAL
MATCH.

MATCH.
SO, $1 THAT THEY PUT IN, WE

SO, $1 THAT THEY PUT IN, WE
RECEIVE $5 BACK.

RECEIVE $5 BACK.
THEY ARE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING

THEY ARE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING
THEY CANNOT PASS THAT ON TO THE

THEY CANNOT PASS THAT ON TO THE
PATIENT.

PATIENT.
>> CANNOT PASS IT ON TO

>> CANNOT PASS IT ON TO
PATIENTS.

PATIENTS.
>> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT.
>> IT WILL COME OUT OF THEIR

>> IT WILL COME OUT OF THEIR
PROFITS?

PROFITS?
>> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT.
>> WHAT ABOUT NON-PROFIT

>> WHAT ABOUT NON-PROFIT
OPERATIONS?

OPERATIONS?
>> IT COMES OUT OF THEIR

>> IT COMES OUT OF THEIR
PROFITS, ALSO.

PROFITS, ALSO.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE
DEBATED IN THE LEGISLATURE.

DEBATED IN THE LEGISLATURE.
THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS THAT ARE

THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS THAT ARE
QUESTIONED BUT AT THIS POINT AND

QUESTIONED BUT AT THIS POINT AND
TIME, I THINK EVERYBODY IS

TIME, I THINK EVERYBODY IS
PROBABLY ASSUMING THEY WILL

PROBABLY ASSUMING THEY WILL
PASS.

PASS.
>> IS YOUR PLAN AN

>> IS YOUR PLAN AN
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT HEALTH CARE

ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT HEALTH CARE
PROVISION IS A PUBLIC GOODS,

PROVISION IS A PUBLIC GOODS,
THERE'S A PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY

THERE'S A PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY
FOR?

FOR?
>> YOU KNOW, I PUSH BACK AGAINST

>> YOU KNOW, I PUSH BACK AGAINST
MY HEALTH CARE, YOU KNOW.

MY HEALTH CARE, YOU KNOW.
THERE YOU GO AGAIN.

THERE YOU GO AGAIN.
ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS REELECTED

PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS REELECTED
AND HE HAS THE SENATE.

AND HE HAS THE SENATE.
I THOUGHT WITH OTHER GOVERNORS

I THOUGHT WITH OTHER GOVERNORS
TAKING IT TO THE SUPREME COURT.

TAKING IT TO THE SUPREME COURT.
THEY UPHELD OBAMA CARE.

THEY UPHELD OBAMA CARE.
OBAMA CARE IS HERE.

OBAMA CARE IS HERE.
IT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.

IT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
WE RESPECT OUR COURT SYSTEM, SO

WE RESPECT OUR COURT SYSTEM, SO
WE MOVE ON AND DO THE BEST WE

WE MOVE ON AND DO THE BEST WE
CAN.

CAN.
WE CAN DO COMPLETELY -- OUR

WE CAN DO COMPLETELY -- OUR
OPTION IS TO NOT HAVE A QUALITY

OPTION IS TO NOT HAVE A QUALITY
HEALTH CARE PROGRAM HERE WE

HEALTH CARE PROGRAM HERE WE
COULD DO AWAY WITH MEDICAID, GO

COULD DO AWAY WITH MEDICAID, GO
BACK TO THE OLD COUNTY SYSTEM,

BACK TO THE OLD COUNTY SYSTEM,
WHICH I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WOULD

WHICH I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WOULD
EVER WANT AGAIN, OR DELIVER THE

EVER WANT AGAIN, OR DELIVER THE
SERVICES.

SERVICES.
THESE ARE A MODEL FOR THE

THESE ARE A MODEL FOR THE
COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.
BRING $2 BILLION INTO OUR STATE,

BRING $2 BILLION INTO OUR STATE,
SAVE THE HOSPITALS, CREATE JOBS

SAVE THE HOSPITALS, CREATE JOBS
AND DO, AGAIN, WHAT I BELIEVE IS

AND DO, AGAIN, WHAT I BELIEVE IS
MORALLY RIGHT.

MORALLY RIGHT.
TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PEOPLE

TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PEOPLE
THAT NEED SOME HELP.

THAT NEED SOME HELP.
>> THE MEDICAID PROPOSAL SEEMS

>> THE MEDICAID PROPOSAL SEEMS
TO HAVE TAKEN MANY BY SURPRISE.

TO HAVE TAKEN MANY BY SURPRISE.
WITH A MIX OF REACTIONS FROM

WITH A MIX OF REACTIONS FROM
LEGISLATURES AND A

LEGISLATURES AND A
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HEALTH

REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HEALTH
CARE INDUSTRY.

CARE INDUSTRY.
GIVE US YOUR INITIAL REACTION TO

GIVE US YOUR INITIAL REACTION TO
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL FOR

THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL FOR
MEDICAID.

MEDICAID.
>> OH, ELATED.

>> OH, ELATED.
ONE OF THE REASONS I RAN IS

ONE OF THE REASONS I RAN IS
BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH

BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH
HEALTH CARE TO THE WORKING POOR,

HEALTH CARE TO THE WORKING POOR,
TO THE POOR CITIZENS OF ARIZONA.

TO THE POOR CITIZENS OF ARIZONA.
I WAS ELATED SHE SAID SHE WAS

I WAS ELATED SHE SAID SHE WAS
WILLING TO EXPAND THE MEDICAID

WILLING TO EXPAND THE MEDICAID
PROGRAM.

PROGRAM.
>> IT WAS A GREAT SIGH OF RELIEF

>> IT WAS A GREAT SIGH OF RELIEF
AND AN EXCELLENT FIRST STEP

AND AN EXCELLENT FIRST STEP
TOWARDS BRINGING STABILITY TO

TOWARDS BRINGING STABILITY TO
OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM THAT IS

OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM THAT IS
SORELY NEEDED.

SORELY NEEDED.
THE IMPACT OF THAT WILL HAVE

THE IMPACT OF THAT WILL HAVE
GREAT, POSITIVE EFFECT ON THE

GREAT, POSITIVE EFFECT ON THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL.

BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL.
>> WE COULD SAY YOU ARE SPEAKING

>> WE COULD SAY YOU ARE SPEAKING
FOR THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY IN

FOR THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY IN
SAYING SO, IS THAT CORRECT?

SAYING SO, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I BELIEVE THE HEALTH CARE

>> I BELIEVE THE HEALTH CARE
INDUSTRY IS UNIFIED IN THEIR

INDUSTRY IS UNIFIED IN THEIR
SUPPORT OF THIS NEWS,

SUPPORT OF THIS NEWS,
PARTICULARLY THE HOSPITAL

PARTICULARLY THE HOSPITAL
INDUSTRY.

INDUSTRY.
WE REALLY HAVE TO COMMEND

WE REALLY HAVE TO COMMEND
GOVERNOR BREWER IN TAKING THE

GOVERNOR BREWER IN TAKING THE
TIME TO THINK THROUGH THIS.

TIME TO THINK THROUGH THIS.
IT'S NOT AN EASY ONE.

IT'S NOT AN EASY ONE.
WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO.

WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO.
WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE
POSSIBILITY OF RESTORING

POSSIBILITY OF RESTORING
PROPOSITION 204 AND EXPANDING

PROPOSITION 204 AND EXPANDING
THE MEDICAID PROGRAM.

THE MEDICAID PROGRAM.
>> NOT ENTHUSIASTIC.

>> NOT ENTHUSIASTIC.
I OPPOSE IT FOR A NUMBER OF

I OPPOSE IT FOR A NUMBER OF
REASONS.

REASONS.
IT PUTS THE STATE AT RISK OF

IT PUTS THE STATE AT RISK OF
ASSUMING AN EXPENSE WHICH WE

ASSUMING AN EXPENSE WHICH WE
CAN'T AFFORD.

CAN'T AFFORD.
I KNOW THE GOVERNOR IS PROPOSING

I KNOW THE GOVERNOR IS PROPOSING
IT NOT IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND

IT NOT IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND
BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A TAX

BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A TAX
IMPOSED ON HOSPITALS TO PAY FOR

IMPOSED ON HOSPITALS TO PAY FOR
IT.

IT.
BEYOND THE FACT THAT I OPPOSE A

BEYOND THE FACT THAT I OPPOSE A
TAX, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT

TAX, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT
THE MONEY WILL KEEP FLOWING FROM

THE MONEY WILL KEEP FLOWING FROM
WASHINGTON.

WASHINGTON.
WE EXPECT THE MATCH TO DECREASE

WE EXPECT THE MATCH TO DECREASE
IN THE COMING YEARS.

IN THE COMING YEARS.
THEY WILL BE PUSHING $20

THEY WILL BE PUSHING $20
TRILLION IN NATIONAL DEBT.

TRILLION IN NATIONAL DEBT.
IT'S UNSUSTAINABLE.

IT'S UNSUSTAINABLE.
THEY HAVE TO BACK OFF.

THEY HAVE TO BACK OFF.
THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS PUSH

THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS PUSH
EXPENSES ON TO THE STATES.

EXPENSES ON TO THE STATES.
IF THAT MATCH GOES AWAY, IT

IF THAT MATCH GOES AWAY, IT
COULD BALLOON THE DEFICIT IN

COULD BALLOON THE DEFICIT IN
ARIZONA IN 2016 TO OVER HALF A

ARIZONA IN 2016 TO OVER HALF A
BILLION DOLLARS.

BILLION DOLLARS.
WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK DOWN

WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK DOWN
THAT ROAD.

THAT ROAD.
>> WOULD THERE BE ANY LIKELIHOOD

>> WOULD THERE BE ANY LIKELIHOOD
THE CIRCUIT BREAKER THE GOVERNOR

THE CIRCUIT BREAKER THE GOVERNOR
CALL, THE SCALING BACK SHOULD

CALL, THE SCALING BACK SHOULD
THERE BE A FEDERAL SCALING BACK?

THERE BE A FEDERAL SCALING BACK?
WOULD THAT MAKE IT WORK?

WOULD THAT MAKE IT WORK?
>> IT WOULD REMOVE THE ECONOMIC

>> IT WOULD REMOVE THE ECONOMIC
THREAT TO THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

THREAT TO THE STATE OF ARIZONA.
THAT'S ASSUMING THEY AGREE TO A

THAT'S ASSUMING THEY AGREE TO A
CIRCUIT BREAKER.

CIRCUIT BREAKER.
I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD.

I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD.
THAT'S A PRECEDENT THAT WOULD

THAT'S A PRECEDENT THAT WOULD
APPLY NATIONWIDE.

APPLY NATIONWIDE.
WHEN THE FEDS HAD TO BACK OFF ON

WHEN THE FEDS HAD TO BACK OFF ON
THE MATCH, WHICH I THINK IS

THE MATCH, WHICH I THINK IS
INEVITABLE, YOU COULD SEE HALF

INEVITABLE, YOU COULD SEE HALF
THE STATE'S UNWINDING THE

THE STATE'S UNWINDING THE
EXPANSE, WHICH IS A FOUNDATION

EXPANSE, WHICH IS A FOUNDATION
OF OBAMA CARE.

OF OBAMA CARE.
I THINK THAT IT'S LIKE THE HOTEL

I THINK THAT IT'S LIKE THE HOTEL
CALIFORNIA.

CALIFORNIA.
YOU CAN CHECK IN ANYTIME BUT YOU

YOU CAN CHECK IN ANYTIME BUT YOU
CAN'T CHECK OUT.

CAN'T CHECK OUT.
>> ANY ASPECTS OF IT THAT

>> ANY ASPECTS OF IT THAT
TROUBLE YOU THAT YOU THINK NEED

TROUBLE YOU THAT YOU THINK NEED
TO BE MODIFIED?

TO BE MODIFIED?
>> WELL, I DON'T QUITE AGREE AND

>> WELL, I DON'T QUITE AGREE AND
MOST DEMOCRATS DON'T AGREE WITH

MOST DEMOCRATS DON'T AGREE WITH
THE FUNDING SOURCE AND THE BED

THE FUNDING SOURCE AND THE BED
TAX THAT MIGHT BE ADDED ON FROM

TAX THAT MIGHT BE ADDED ON FROM
A HOSPITAL, SO I'M SURE YOU WILL

A HOSPITAL, SO I'M SURE YOU WILL
GET SOME RESPONSE FROM THE

GET SOME RESPONSE FROM THE
HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION ON THAT.

HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION ON THAT.
>> PROVIDER FEES ARE NOTHING

>> PROVIDER FEES ARE NOTHING
FOREIGN TO THE HEALTH CARE

FOREIGN TO THE HEALTH CARE
INDUSTRY.

INDUSTRY.
THEY MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT

THEY MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT
THE EVERY DAY PERSON TALKS ABOUT

THE EVERY DAY PERSON TALKS ABOUT
MUCH IN THE HEALTH CARE

MUCH IN THE HEALTH CARE
INDUSTRY, IT IS A COMMONLY USED

INDUSTRY, IT IS A COMMONLY USED
MECHANISM THAT STATES HAVE

MECHANISM THAT STATES HAVE
EMPLOYED TO HELP FURTHER EXPAND

EMPLOYED TO HELP FURTHER EXPAND
THEIR MEDICAID PROGRAMS, ENHANCE

THEIR MEDICAID PROGRAMS, ENHANCE
REIMBURSEMENT PAYMENTS.

REIMBURSEMENT PAYMENTS.
WE SEE IT AS NOTHING, NOT

WE SEE IT AS NOTHING, NOT
UNCHARTERED TERRITORY, BUT A

UNCHARTERED TERRITORY, BUT A
VIABLE SOLUTION AND OPTION TO

VIABLE SOLUTION AND OPTION TO
HELP, YOU KNOW, PUT INTO PLACE

HELP, YOU KNOW, PUT INTO PLACE
THE MECHANISM TO RESTORE THE

THE MECHANISM TO RESTORE THE
MEDICAID PROGRAM BACK TO THE

MEDICAID PROGRAM BACK TO THE
PROP 204 COVERAGE AND EXPANSION.

PROP 204 COVERAGE AND EXPANSION.
>> THE GOVERNOR'S IDEA IS THE

>> THE GOVERNOR'S IDEA IS THE
INDUSTRY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO

INDUSTRY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO
PASS ALONG THE COSTS TO

PASS ALONG THE COSTS TO
PATIENTS.

PATIENTS.
THE INDUSTRY'S FEELING ABOUT

THE INDUSTRY'S FEELING ABOUT
THAT?

THAT?
>> IT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT.

>> IT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT.
WHEN WE DISCUSSED PROVIDER FEES

WHEN WE DISCUSSED PROVIDER FEES
IN THE PAST AND LOOKED AT THESE

IN THE PAST AND LOOKED AT THESE
AS OPTIONS, I THINK IT'S

AS OPTIONS, I THINK IT'S
CRITICAL THAT THE PATIENTS

CRITICAL THAT THE PATIENTS
AREN'T BARING THE BRUNT OF THAT.

AREN'T BARING THE BRUNT OF THAT.
IT'S AN INDUSTRY MECHANISM TO

IT'S AN INDUSTRY MECHANISM TO
BRING IN FEDERAL DOLLARS, EXTRA

BRING IN FEDERAL DOLLARS, EXTRA
DOLLARS THAT WILL HAVE A BENEFIT

DOLLARS THAT WILL HAVE A BENEFIT
TO THE PATIENT AND A BENEFIT TO

TO THE PATIENT AND A BENEFIT TO
THE HOSPITALS IN HAVING MORE

THE HOSPITALS IN HAVING MORE
PEOPLE INSURED.

PEOPLE INSURED.
>> DO YOU THINK THE GOVERNOR IS

>> DO YOU THINK THE GOVERNOR IS
GOING TO PREVAIL IN SOME WAY,

GOING TO PREVAIL IN SOME WAY,
SHAPE OR FORM?

SHAPE OR FORM?
SHE'S PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE

SHE'S PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE
ON THE LEGISLATURE.

ON THE LEGISLATURE.
SHE HAD A RALLY THIS WEEK HERE

SHE HAD A RALLY THIS WEEK HERE
AT THE CAPITAL TO PUSH THIS

AT THE CAPITAL TO PUSH THIS
IDEA.

IDEA.
>> THE ONE THING I LEARNED HERE

>> THE ONE THING I LEARNED HERE
IS NOT TO TRY TO PREDICT WHAT

IS NOT TO TRY TO PREDICT WHAT
THE LEGISLATURE DOES.

THE LEGISLATURE DOES.
IF IT WERE JUST PURELY THAT

IF IT WERE JUST PURELY THAT
ISSUE, I WOULD SAY THE CHANCES

ISSUE, I WOULD SAY THE CHANCES
MIGHT BE SLIM THAT IT PASSES.

MIGHT BE SLIM THAT IT PASSES.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE GOVERNOR

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE GOVERNOR
MIGHT TIE IT TO.

MIGHT TIE IT TO.
THIS IS LIKE PLAYING THREE

THIS IS LIKE PLAYING THREE
DIMENSIONAL CHESS GAME.

DIMENSIONAL CHESS GAME.
MOVES ARE COMING FROM ALL

MOVES ARE COMING FROM ALL
DIRECTIONS.

DIRECTIONS.
I DON'T TRY TO PREDICT WHAT

I DON'T TRY TO PREDICT WHAT
HAPPENS WITH THE LEGISLATURE.

HAPPENS WITH THE LEGISLATURE.
>> THE REPUBLICANS TEND TO BE

>> THE REPUBLICANS TEND TO BE
LESS FAVORABLE TO THESE KINDS OF

LESS FAVORABLE TO THESE KINDS OF
PROGRAMS THAT HELP THE POOR AND,

PROGRAMS THAT HELP THE POOR AND,
YOU KNOW, THE NEED AND THE

YOU KNOW, THE NEED AND THE
EXPANSION AND SPENDING MORE

EXPANSION AND SPENDING MORE
MONEY IN THOSE WAYS.

MONEY IN THOSE WAYS.
>> WE HOPE TO SEEK ULTIMATELY

>> WE HOPE TO SEEK ULTIMATELY
BIPARTISAN AND SOLID SUPPORT

BIPARTISAN AND SOLID SUPPORT
BEHIND THE PROPOSAL.

BEHIND THE PROPOSAL.
THANKFULLY, NOBODY HAS COME OUT

THANKFULLY, NOBODY HAS COME OUT
IN STRONG OPPOSITION SINCE THE

IN STRONG OPPOSITION SINCE THE
GOVERNOR MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT.

GOVERNOR MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT.
WE BELIEVE IT'S AN ENCOURAGING

WE BELIEVE IT'S AN ENCOURAGING
SIGN.

SIGN.
WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE

WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE
LEGISLATURES, BRING THEM UP TO

LEGISLATURES, BRING THEM UP TO
SPEED, MAKE SURE THEY ARE

SPEED, MAKE SURE THEY ARE
COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
>> EVEN IF IT DOESN'T COST

>> EVEN IF IT DOESN'T COST
ARIZONA A DIME, WE ARE ALL STILL

ARIZONA A DIME, WE ARE ALL STILL
CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.

CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.
WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS OUT

WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS OUT
OF THE FEDERAL POCKET.

OF THE FEDERAL POCKET.
SO, IT'S GOING TO COST US.

SO, IT'S GOING TO COST US.
I THINK MAYBE OUR CHILDREN AND

I THINK MAYBE OUR CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN BECAUSE THE LEVEL

GRANDCHILDREN BECAUSE THE LEVEL
OF DEBT THAT THIS IS GOING TO

OF DEBT THAT THIS IS GOING TO
INCREASE IN THE FEDERAL

INCREASE IN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS NOTHING THAT IS

GOVERNMENT IS NOTHING THAT IS
GOING TO BE REPAID IN OUR

GOING TO BE REPAID IN OUR
LIFETIME.

LIFETIME.
THIS IS GOING TO BE PAID FOR MY

THIS IS GOING TO BE PAID FOR MY
FUTURE GENERATIONS.

FUTURE GENERATIONS.
>> HER RATIONAL IN REGARD TO THE

>> HER RATIONAL IN REGARD TO THE
ARGUMENT YOU JUST MADE IS THAT

ARGUMENT YOU JUST MADE IS THAT
IF ARIZONA DOESN'T TAKE IT, IT

IF ARIZONA DOESN'T TAKE IT, IT
WILL GO TO OTHER STATES.

WILL GO TO OTHER STATES.
>> IT'S NOT TRUE.

>> IT'S NOT TRUE.
IF ARIZONA DOESN'T TAKE IT, THEY

IF ARIZONA DOESN'T TAKE IT, THEY
ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ADDITIONAL

ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ADDITIONAL
MATCHES TO OTHER STATES.

MATCHES TO OTHER STATES.
THE FEDERAL DEBT WON'T BE QUITE

THE FEDERAL DEBT WON'T BE QUITE
AS HIGH AND OUR CHILDREN AND

AS HIGH AND OUR CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN WILL PAY IT OFF

GRANDCHILDREN WILL PAY IT OFF
EARLIER.

EARLIER.
>> EDUCATIONAL REFORM IS ONE OF

>> EDUCATIONAL REFORM IS ONE OF
THE KEY AGENDA ITEMS.

THE KEY AGENDA ITEMS.
AS PART OF REFORM, THIS YEAR SHE

AS PART OF REFORM, THIS YEAR SHE
PLANS TO REWARD PERFORMANCE

PLANS TO REWARD PERFORMANCE
GIVING IMPROVING SCHOOLS MORE

GIVING IMPROVING SCHOOLS MORE
MONEY.

MONEY.
YOU FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY USE

YOU FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY USE
ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN REFERRING TO

ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN REFERRING TO
THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM IN

THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM IN
ARIZONA.

ARIZONA.
>> YES.

>> YES.
>> WOULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT YOU

>> WOULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT YOU
MEAN BY THAT AS SPECIFICALLY AS

MEAN BY THAT AS SPECIFICALLY AS
YOU CAN?

YOU CAN?
>> WE AS TAXPAYERS SEND OUR HARD

>> WE AS TAXPAYERS SEND OUR HARD
EARNED MONEY INTO THE PUBLIC

EARNED MONEY INTO THE PUBLIC
EDUCATION SYSTEMS HERE IN

EDUCATION SYSTEMS HERE IN
ARIZONA.

ARIZONA.
IT'S USUALLY DONE BY SOMEBODY

IT'S USUALLY DONE BY SOMEBODY
DOING A HEAD COUNT OF WHO IS AT

DOING A HEAD COUNT OF WHO IS AT
SCHOOL THAT DAY.

SCHOOL THAT DAY.
YOU KNOW, SPACE FUNDING.

YOU KNOW, SPACE FUNDING.
YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SERVICE, I'M

YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SERVICE, I'M
NOT TALKING OF GETTING RID OF

NOT TALKING OF GETTING RID OF
THAT.

THAT.
AT THIS POINT AND TIME, SINCE I

AT THIS POINT AND TIME, SINCE I
HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE STANDARDS,

HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE STANDARDS,
THEY NEED A HIGHER STANDARD.

THEY NEED A HIGHER STANDARD.
WE SAID THERE ARE GOING TO BE

WE SAID THERE ARE GOING TO BE
HIGHER STANDARDS AND WE ARE

HIGHER STANDARDS AND WE ARE
GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE

GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE
FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND WITH

FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND WITH
PERFORMANCE BASED RATIONAL.

PERFORMANCE BASED RATIONAL.
THOSE THAT IMPROVE WILL GET

THOSE THAT IMPROVE WILL GET
ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY WON'T.

IF THEY DON'T, THEY WON'T.
GIVEN THAT FACT THAT PARENTS AND

GIVEN THAT FACT THAT PARENTS AND
TEACHERS WILL STRIVE HARDER

TEACHERS WILL STRIVE HARDER
BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE

BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE
MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST SIT

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST SIT
BACK AND SAY EVERYTHING IS OKAY

BACK AND SAY EVERYTHING IS OKAY
AND STATUS QUO.

AND STATUS QUO.
WE ARE LIVING IN A VERY

WE ARE LIVING IN A VERY
COMPETITIVE WORLD.

COMPETITIVE WORLD.
WE HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL THAT ARE

WE HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL THAT ARE
GOING TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH

GOING TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH
SCHOOL AND GO TO OUR

SCHOOL AND GO TO OUR
UNIVERSITIES.

UNIVERSITIES.
THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE

THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE
ON THE GLOBAL MARKET.

ON THE GLOBAL MARKET.
>> UNDER A FUNDING FORMULA FOR

>> UNDER A FUNDING FORMULA FOR
SCHOOLS THAT INCLUDES

SCHOOLS THAT INCLUDES
CONSIDERATION PERFORMANCE.

CONSIDERATION PERFORMANCE.
WHAT PROPORTION OF THE FUNDING

WHAT PROPORTION OF THE FUNDING
WOULD YOU SEE DEDICATED TO

WOULD YOU SEE DEDICATED TO
PERFORMANCE AND WHAT PROPORTION

PERFORMANCE AND WHAT PROPORTION
DEDICATED TO ATTENDANCE.

DEDICATED TO ATTENDANCE.
>> AS I SLASH MY BUDGET, PEOPLE

>> AS I SLASH MY BUDGET, PEOPLE
WILL HAVE IT SOON.

WILL HAVE IT SOON.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT

WE WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT
WITH YOU.

WITH YOU.
TODAY I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY

TODAY I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY
THAT.

THAT.
>> WOULD IT BE A SIGNIFICANT

>> WOULD IT BE A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT?

AMOUNT?
WOULD IT BE HALF, DO YOU THINK?

WOULD IT BE HALF, DO YOU THINK?
>> I WOULD RATHER NOT COMMENT

>> I WOULD RATHER NOT COMMENT
THAN TO BE WRONG.

THAN TO BE WRONG.
TO SET EXPECTATIONS HIGH OR LOW

TO SET EXPECTATIONS HIGH OR LOW
IN THAT REGARD.

IN THAT REGARD.
I WILL TELL YOU THIS, IT'S A

I WILL TELL YOU THIS, IT'S A
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PART OF MY

VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PART OF MY
AGENDA AND MY POLICYMAKING AND

AGENDA AND MY POLICYMAKING AND
WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE IT

WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE IT
WORTHWHILE AND MAKE IT SURE THAT

WORTHWHILE AND MAKE IT SURE THAT
IT HAS AN IMPACT.

IT HAS AN IMPACT.
SO, WE'LL MOVE IN THAT

SO, WE'LL MOVE IN THAT
DIRECTION.

DIRECTION.
I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE A PRICE.

I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE A PRICE.
>> HOW DOES PERFORMANCE BASED

>> HOW DOES PERFORMANCE BASED
FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS ACCOUNT FOR

FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS ACCOUNT FOR
THOSE SCHOOLS THAT BY THEIR

THOSE SCHOOLS THAT BY THEIR
NATURE OR THEIR LOCATION LOW

NATURE OR THEIR LOCATION LOW
SOCIOECONOMIC AREAS THAT WE KNOW

SOCIOECONOMIC AREAS THAT WE KNOW
TRADITIONALLY UNDERPERFORM.

TRADITIONALLY UNDERPERFORM.
>> VERY, VERY SIMPLY.

>> VERY, VERY SIMPLY.
THEY HAVE JUST A GREAT MIND AS

THEY HAVE JUST A GREAT MIND AS
KIDS IN A DIFFERENT SCHOOL

KIDS IN A DIFFERENT SCHOOL
DISTRICT.

DISTRICT.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IF YOU ARE

THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IF YOU ARE
HERE TODAY, I WANT YOU HERE

HERE TODAY, I WANT YOU HERE
TOMORROW.

TOMORROW.
I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU GO TO

I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU GO TO
SCHOOL.

SCHOOL.
IF YOU ARE HERE TODAY, I WANT

IF YOU ARE HERE TODAY, I WANT
YOU UP HERE.

YOU UP HERE.
IT'S THE IMPROVEMENT.

IT'S THE IMPROVEMENT.
I WANT IMPROVEMENT.

I WANT IMPROVEMENT.
THEY CAN'T BE STATUS QUO.

THEY CAN'T BE STATUS QUO.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT FOR TOO LONG.

WE HAVE SEEN THAT FOR TOO LONG.
I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR THREE

I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR THREE
DECADES.

DECADES.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME.
I WENT TO THE LEGISLATURE WAY

I WENT TO THE LEGISLATURE WAY
BACK WHEN BECAUSE I WAS

BACK WHEN BECAUSE I WAS
INTERESTED IN EDUCATION BECAUSE

INTERESTED IN EDUCATION BECAUSE
OF MY CHILDREN.

OF MY CHILDREN.
IT WAS PRIMARILY THE SAME ISSUES

IT WAS PRIMARILY THE SAME ISSUES
THAT WE ARE FACING TODAY.

THAT WE ARE FACING TODAY.
WE WANT OUR TEACHERS TO TEACH.

WE WANT OUR TEACHERS TO TEACH.
WE WANT TO REWARD THOSE GOOD

WE WANT TO REWARD THOSE GOOD
TEACHERS.

TEACHERS.
WE WANT OUR CHILDREN EDUCATED.

WE WANT OUR CHILDREN EDUCATED.
WE CAN DO IT.

WE CAN DO IT.
THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY ALONG

THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY ALONG
WITH EVERYONE WHO AGREE WITH

WITH EVERYONE WHO AGREE WITH
THAT PHILOSOPHY TO COME

THAT PHILOSOPHY TO COME
TOGETHER.

TOGETHER.
THE PARENTS HAVE TO WORK HARDER,

THE PARENTS HAVE TO WORK HARDER,
THE KIDS HAVE TO WORK HARDER AND

THE KIDS HAVE TO WORK HARDER AND
THE TEACHERS HAVE TO WORK HARDER

THE TEACHERS HAVE TO WORK HARDER
AND WE WILL REWARD THEM.

AND WE WILL REWARD THEM.
>> LAST YEAR, YOU WENT TO THE

>> LAST YEAR, YOU WENT TO THE
LEGISLATURE WITH EDUCATIONAL

LEGISLATURE WITH EDUCATIONAL
FUNDING INCREASES THAT THEY CUT

FUNDING INCREASES THAT THEY CUT
SHORT OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.

SHORT OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
SPECIFICALLY, THE READING

SPECIFICALLY, THE READING
PROGRAM FOR THIRD GRADERS, THEY

PROGRAM FOR THIRD GRADERS, THEY
CUT 20%, GAVE YOU 40 MILLION

CUT 20%, GAVE YOU 40 MILLION
WHERE YOU ASKED FOR 50 MILLION.

WHERE YOU ASKED FOR 50 MILLION.
YOU ASKED FOR 100 MILLION IN

YOU ASKED FOR 100 MILLION IN
SOFT CAPITAL.

SOFT CAPITAL.
THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU ANY OF THAT

THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU ANY OF THAT
MONEY.

MONEY.
WILL YOU RENEW THAT REQUEST THIS

WILL YOU RENEW THAT REQUEST THIS
YEAR?

YEAR?
>> WE WILL SEE THAT THE AGENDA

>> WE WILL SEE THAT THE AGENDA
IS PRESENTED TO THE LEGISLATURE.

IS PRESENTED TO THE LEGISLATURE.
HOPEFULLY, WITH SUCCESS, BUT I

HOPEFULLY, WITH SUCCESS, BUT I
THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND

THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO WORK

THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO WORK
TOGETHER.

TOGETHER.
THAT IS THE BODY OF DEBATE.

THAT IS THE BODY OF DEBATE.
THAT'S WHERE THEY DELIBERATE

THAT'S WHERE THEY DELIBERATE
THESE THINGS.

THESE THINGS.
YOU HAVE 90 ELECTED OFFICIALS

YOU HAVE 90 ELECTED OFFICIALS
DOWN THERE REPRESENTING 30

DOWN THERE REPRESENTING 30
DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT WANT 30

DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT WANT 30
DIFFERENT THINGS.

DIFFERENT THINGS.
TOGETHER WE COME TOGETHER.

TOGETHER WE COME TOGETHER.
I'M WILLING TO WORK IN THAT

I'M WILLING TO WORK IN THAT
PROCESS.

PROCESS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY
UNDERSTAND WHAT MY PRIORITIES

UNDERSTAND WHAT MY PRIORITIES
ARE.

ARE.
THAT'S WHY I RELEASED MY BUDGET.

THAT'S WHY I RELEASED MY BUDGET.
I HOPE IT'S WELL RECEIVED.

I HOPE IT'S WELL RECEIVED.
>> HOW MUCH STATE MONEY DO YOU

>> HOW MUCH STATE MONEY DO YOU
EXPECT TO PROPOSE BEING DEVOTED

EXPECT TO PROPOSE BEING DEVOTED
TO BUILDING UP THE SCHOOL

TO BUILDING UP THE SCHOOL
RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM AS A

RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM AS A
SCHOOL SAFETY MEASURE?

SCHOOL SAFETY MEASURE?
>> THAT'S ANOTHER VERY, VERY

>> THAT'S ANOTHER VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT CAUSE THAT WE HAVE TO

IMPORTANT CAUSE THAT WE HAVE TO
PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO.

PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO.
THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY

THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY
DIFFERENT IDEAS OF HOW WE NEED

DIFFERENT IDEAS OF HOW WE NEED
TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF SCHOOL

TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF SCHOOL
SAFETY WITH THE MOST PRECIOUS

SAFETY WITH THE MOST PRECIOUS
RESOURCES.

RESOURCES.
CERTAINLY WHAT HAPPENED AT SANDY

CERTAINLY WHAT HAPPENED AT SANDY
HOOK ELEMENTARY WAS A TERRIBLE,

HOOK ELEMENTARY WAS A TERRIBLE,
TERRIBLE TRAGEDY.

TERRIBLE TRAGEDY.
WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD SCHOOL

WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD SCHOOL
RESOURCE OFFICERS IN THE

RESOURCE OFFICERS IN THE
SCHOOLS.

SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE FUNDING FOR THEM.

WE HAVE FUNDING FOR THEM.
A LOT OF SCHOOLS IN TUCSON AND

A LOT OF SCHOOLS IN TUCSON AND
PHOENIX AND RURAL AREAS.

PHOENIX AND RURAL AREAS.
BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET PROBLEMS,

BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET PROBLEMS,
WE HAD TO CUT IT WAY BACK.

WE HAD TO CUT IT WAY BACK.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE
TRAINED POLICE OFFICERS OR

TRAINED POLICE OFFICERS OR
RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS ON OUR

RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS ON OUR
SCHOOLS.

SCHOOLS.
I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF GIVING A

I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF GIVING A
PRINCIPAL A GUN OR A TEACHER.

PRINCIPAL A GUN OR A TEACHER.
THEY ARE NOT THERE.

THEY ARE NOT THERE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BECOME A

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BECOME A
MARKSMAN, THEY WANTED TO BECOME

MARKSMAN, THEY WANTED TO BECOME
A TEACHER.

A TEACHER.
>> A FORMER TEACHER WHO IS NOW A

>> A FORMER TEACHER WHO IS NOW A
STATE LEGISLATURE TELLS US WHAT

STATE LEGISLATURE TELLS US WHAT
SHE THINKS OF THE PROPOSAL.

SHE THINKS OF THE PROPOSAL.
WE PUT A SIMILAR QUESTION TO

WE PUT A SIMILAR QUESTION TO
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN KAVANAGH.

REPRESENTATIVE JOHN KAVANAGH.
WHAT IS YOUR INITIAL REACTION TO

WHAT IS YOUR INITIAL REACTION TO
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL IN

THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL IN
EDUCATION THAT IS TO CHANGE THE

EDUCATION THAT IS TO CHANGE THE
FUNDING FORMULA TO INCLUDE

FUNDING FORMULA TO INCLUDE
PERFORMANCE BASED FUNDING?

PERFORMANCE BASED FUNDING?
>> WELL, MY INITIAL REACTION

>> WELL, MY INITIAL REACTION
WAS, I HOPE SHE DOESN'T FORGET

WAS, I HOPE SHE DOESN'T FORGET
THE UNDERPERFORMING DISTRICTS

THE UNDERPERFORMING DISTRICTS
THAT NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.

THAT NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
HOPEFULLY TOMORROW WE'LL FIND

HOPEFULLY TOMORROW WE'LL FIND
OUT IN HER BUDGET IF THERE'S

OUT IN HER BUDGET IF THERE'S
FUNDING FOR THE LOW PERFORMING

FUNDING FOR THE LOW PERFORMING
DISTRICTS FOR EXTRA RESOURCES.

DISTRICTS FOR EXTRA RESOURCES.
>> WOULD YOU SAY THAT IS

>> WOULD YOU SAY THAT IS
NECESSARY TO SECURE DEMOCRATIC

NECESSARY TO SECURE DEMOCRATIC
SUPPORT FOR HER PROPOSAL?

SUPPORT FOR HER PROPOSAL?
>> I BELIEVE SO.

>> I BELIEVE SO.
I BELIEVE SO.

I BELIEVE SO.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED IN DETAIL

WE HAVEN'T TALKED IN DETAIL
ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC AREA.

ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC AREA.
AS A FORMER EDUCATOR, I KNOW

AS A FORMER EDUCATOR, I KNOW
THAT AS WE ALL KNOW, ARIZONA IS

THAT AS WE ALL KNOW, ARIZONA IS
SUFFERING WITH OUR SCORES AS FAR

SUFFERING WITH OUR SCORES AS FAR
AS EDUCATION GOES.

AS EDUCATION GOES.
WITHOUT TARGETING THAT

WITHOUT TARGETING THAT
POPULATION AND TO BE MORE

POPULATION AND TO BE MORE
SPECIFIC OUR LATINO POPULATION

SPECIFIC OUR LATINO POPULATION
WHICH IS A FAST GROWING

WHICH IS A FAST GROWING
POPULATION, WE NEED TO PUT THAT

POPULATION, WE NEED TO PUT THAT
PRIORITY ON OUR AGENDA WHEN IT

PRIORITY ON OUR AGENDA WHEN IT
COMES TO EDUCATION.

COMES TO EDUCATION.
>> THE GENERAL IDEA OF

>> THE GENERAL IDEA OF
PERFORMANCE BASED FUNDING FOR

PERFORMANCE BASED FUNDING FOR
SCHOOLS, IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?

SCHOOLS, IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?
>> IT IS.

>> IT IS.
WE NEED TO REWARD DISTRICTS THAT

WE NEED TO REWARD DISTRICTS THAT
ARE ACHIEVING AND -- BUT AT THE

ARE ACHIEVING AND -- BUT AT THE
SAME TIME, IT GOES HAND-IN-HAND

SAME TIME, IT GOES HAND-IN-HAND
TO PROVIDING INCENTIVES TO

TO PROVIDING INCENTIVES TO
UNDERPERFORMING DISTRICTS AS

UNDERPERFORMING DISTRICTS AS
WELL.

WELL.
>> AS A FORMER TEACHER, HOW DO

>> AS A FORMER TEACHER, HOW DO
YOU SEE THIS CHANGE AFFECTING

YOU SEE THIS CHANGE AFFECTING
WHAT GOES ON IN THE CLASSROOM?

WHAT GOES ON IN THE CLASSROOM?
>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD

>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD
QUESTION.

QUESTION.
AS A FORMER TEACHER, THERE ARE

AS A FORMER TEACHER, THERE ARE
SOME UNFAIR PIECES THAT GO WITH

SOME UNFAIR PIECES THAT GO WITH
THIS REFORM OF HERS.

THIS REFORM OF HERS.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW AFFECTED

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW AFFECTED
WAS THE PRECEDING TEACHER.

WAS THE PRECEDING TEACHER.
YOU INHERIT THESE CHILDREN THAT

YOU INHERIT THESE CHILDREN THAT
AREN'T UP TO PAR.

AREN'T UP TO PAR.
THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES TO THIS

THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES TO THIS
PARTICULAR PART OF REFORM THAT

PARTICULAR PART OF REFORM THAT
NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
THERE IS SOME UNFAIRNESS TOWARDS

THERE IS SOME UNFAIRNESS TOWARDS
A WELL PERFORMING TEACHER VERSUS

A WELL PERFORMING TEACHER VERSUS
A NOT SO WELL PERFORMING

A NOT SO WELL PERFORMING
TEACHER.

TEACHER.
>> I THINK EVERYBODY SUPPORTS

>> I THINK EVERYBODY SUPPORTS
PERFORMANCE FUNDING.

PERFORMANCE FUNDING.
IT'S ACCOUNTABILITY.

IT'S ACCOUNTABILITY.
IT REWARDS GOOD BEHAVIOR.

IT REWARDS GOOD BEHAVIOR.
I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.
THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT IF WE

THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT IF WE
LOSE THE LAWSUIT CHALLENGING THE

LOSE THE LAWSUIT CHALLENGING THE
AND/OR IN INFLATION FUNDING, WE

AND/OR IN INFLATION FUNDING, WE
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE $80

ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE $80
MILLION THIS YEAR AND TWICE THAT

MILLION THIS YEAR AND TWICE THAT
MUCH NEXT YEAR AND ON AND ON TO

MUCH NEXT YEAR AND ON AND ON TO
EDUCATION.

EDUCATION.
THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE

THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE
GENERAL AMOUNT OF MONEY WE WERE

GENERAL AMOUNT OF MONEY WE WERE
GOING TO GIVE IN TOTAL.

GOING TO GIVE IN TOTAL.
THE SCHOOLS WILL PROBABLY GET

THE SCHOOLS WILL PROBABLY GET
THAT MONEY BUT IT WON'T BE TIED

THAT MONEY BUT IT WON'T BE TIED
TO PERFORMANCE, IF, IN FACT,

TO PERFORMANCE, IF, IN FACT,
IT'S THE COURT ORDER THAT IT BE

IT'S THE COURT ORDER THAT IT BE
INFLATION.

INFLATION.
>> WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS

>> WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS
THE COURT'S ORDER THAT CAME THIS

THE COURT'S ORDER THAT CAME THIS
WEEK SAYING THE LEGISLATURE HAS

WEEK SAYING THE LEGISLATURE HAS
TO PROVIDE INFLATION ADJUSTED

TO PROVIDE INFLATION ADJUSTED
MONEY TO THE SCHOOLS.

MONEY TO THE SCHOOLS.
>> EVERY YEAR IT'S 80 MILLION ON

>> EVERY YEAR IT'S 80 MILLION ON
TOP OF 80 MILLION ON TOP OF 80

TOP OF 80 MILLION ON TOP OF 80
MILLION.

MILLION.
IF WE LOSE WHEN IT GOES TO THE

IF WE LOSE WHEN IT GOES TO THE
SUPREME COURT ASSUMING IT'S

SUPREME COURT ASSUMING IT'S
CHALLENGED, I THINK IT WILL BE

CHALLENGED, I THINK IT WILL BE
APPEALED.

APPEALED.
IF WE LOSE, WITHOUT MAKING A

IF WE LOSE, WITHOUT MAKING A
PENNY INCREASE IN THE NEXT THREE

PENNY INCREASE IN THE NEXT THREE
BUDGET YEARS, WITHOUT RAISING

BUDGET YEARS, WITHOUT RAISING
ANYTHING OTHER THAN FORMULA

ANYTHING OTHER THAN FORMULA
SPENDING, IF WE LOSE THAT

SPENDING, IF WE LOSE THAT
LAWSUIT, WE'LL HAVE A DEFICIT IN

LAWSUIT, WE'LL HAVE A DEFICIT IN
2016 OF $340 MILLION.

2016 OF $340 MILLION.
THAT'S ASSUMING THAT WE DON'T

THAT'S ASSUMING THAT WE DON'T
INCREASE ANY BUDGET ITEM OTHER

INCREASE ANY BUDGET ITEM OTHER
THAN FORMULA INCREASES THAT ARE

THAN FORMULA INCREASES THAT ARE
IN STATUTE ALREADY.

IN STATUTE ALREADY.
>> WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY WOULD

>> WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY WOULD
YOU SEE BEING IDEAL TO ALLOCATE

YOU SEE BEING IDEAL TO ALLOCATE
TO EDUCATION THIS YEAR AS FAR AS

TO EDUCATION THIS YEAR AS FAR AS
AN INCREASE IN FUNDING GOES?

AN INCREASE IN FUNDING GOES?
>> IT'S HARD TO SAY AT THIS

>> IT'S HARD TO SAY AT THIS
TIME.

TIME.
THE WAY I LIKE TO APPROACH THE

THE WAY I LIKE TO APPROACH THE
BUDGET, WITHOUT VOTING INCREASES

BUDGET, WITHOUT VOTING INCREASES
IN, JUST DOING THE FORMULA

IN, JUST DOING THE FORMULA
INCREASES IN STATUTE, WE ARE

INCREASES IN STATUTE, WE ARE
GOING TO BE INCREASING THE

GOING TO BE INCREASING THE
BUDGET BY $152 MILLION FOR NEXT

BUDGET BY $152 MILLION FOR NEXT
YEAR.

YEAR.
>> EDUCATION BUDGET?

>> EDUCATION BUDGET?
>> NO, THE TOTAL BUDGET.

>> NO, THE TOTAL BUDGET.
IT'S NOT COUNTING THE 80 MILLION

IT'S NOT COUNTING THE 80 MILLION
FOR THE LAWSUIT.

FOR THE LAWSUIT.
ASSUMING WE WIN THAT OR IT'S

ASSUMING WE WIN THAT OR IT'S
PUSHED OFF, WITHOUT DOING

PUSHED OFF, WITHOUT DOING
ANYTHING, WE HAVE ADDED $150

ANYTHING, WE HAVE ADDED $150
MILLION TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

MILLION TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT WE

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT WE
SHOULDN'T ADD ANYMORE THAN $200

SHOULDN'T ADD ANYMORE THAN $200
MILLION ON TOP OF THAT.

MILLION ON TOP OF THAT.
MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE THAT WE

MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE THAT WE
CREATE THIS $200 MILLION BOX AND

CREATE THIS $200 MILLION BOX AND
WE HAVE TO STAY IN IT.

WE HAVE TO STAY IN IT.
THE DISCUSSION SIMPLY IS OF THE

THE DISCUSSION SIMPLY IS OF THE
DIFFERENT COMPETING WANTS AND

DIFFERENT COMPETING WANTS AND
NEEDS, HOW DO WE DIVIDE UP THAT

NEEDS, HOW DO WE DIVIDE UP THAT
200 MILLION.

200 MILLION.
THAT GIVES THE STATE A 5%

THAT GIVES THE STATE A 5%
SPENDING INCREASE.

SPENDING INCREASE.
IT'S REASONABLE AND PRUDENT IN

IT'S REASONABLE AND PRUDENT IN
THESE TOUGH TIMES.

THESE TOUGH TIMES.
THE RECOVERY IS VERY SLOW.

THE RECOVERY IS VERY SLOW.
>> THE KEY COMPETITORS FOR THAT

>> THE KEY COMPETITORS FOR THAT
200 MILLION IS CHILD PROTECTIVE

200 MILLION IS CHILD PROTECTIVE
SERVICES, EDUCATION, SOME

SERVICES, EDUCATION, SOME
ASPECTS OF HEALTH CARE, WHAT

ASPECTS OF HEALTH CARE, WHAT
ELSE?

ELSE?
>> EMPLOYEES WANTING MAYBE A

>> EMPLOYEES WANTING MAYBE A
RAISE OR A ONE-TIME BOOST IN

RAISE OR A ONE-TIME BOOST IN
SALARY, PUBLIC SAFETY.

SALARY, PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE WHOLE LIST.

THE WHOLE LIST.
PARKS.

PARKS.
WE WOULD, AGAIN, HAVE TO FIGURE

WE WOULD, AGAIN, HAVE TO FIGURE
A REASONABLE WAY TO DIVIDE THAT

A REASONABLE WAY TO DIVIDE THAT
MONEY UP.

MONEY UP.
>> DO WE STILL NEED TO RESTORE

>> DO WE STILL NEED TO RESTORE
BASIC EDUCATIONAL FUNDING BEFORE

BASIC EDUCATIONAL FUNDING BEFORE
WE GO TO PERFORMANCE BASED OR AS

WE GO TO PERFORMANCE BASED OR AS
A PART OF IT?

A PART OF IT?
HOW WOULD THAT WORK?

HOW WOULD THAT WORK?
>> WE NEED BOTH.

>> WE NEED BOTH.
WE NEED BOTH BECAUSE SO MANY

WE NEED BOTH BECAUSE SO MANY
AREAS HAVE BEEN CUT.

AREAS HAVE BEEN CUT.
WE NEED TO PLAY CATCH UP AND

WE NEED TO PLAY CATCH UP AND
THERE'S A LOT OF ARGUMENTS THERE

THERE'S A LOT OF ARGUMENTS THERE
THAT FUNDING DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE

THAT FUNDING DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE
TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.

TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.
MY ARGUMENT IS YES, FUNDING

MY ARGUMENT IS YES, FUNDING
DOES, IF THE FUNDING IS TARGETED

DOES, IF THE FUNDING IS TARGETED
IN THE RIGHT AREAS.

IN THE RIGHT AREAS.
>> WHAT DO YOU HOLD AS THE TOP

>> WHAT DO YOU HOLD AS THE TOP
PRIORITIES FOR FUNDING IN PUBLIC

PRIORITIES FOR FUNDING IN PUBLIC
SCHOOLS IN ARIZONA?

SCHOOLS IN ARIZONA?
>> THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS.

>> THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS.
WE HAVE COMMON CORE STANDARDS

WE HAVE COMMON CORE STANDARDS
COMING DOWN THE PIPE.

COMING DOWN THE PIPE.
WE HAVE OUR PARK ASSESSMENT.

WE HAVE OUR PARK ASSESSMENT.
ALL THESE NEW REFORMS AND

ALL THESE NEW REFORMS AND
ANOTHER ONE MOVE ON WHEN

ANOTHER ONE MOVE ON WHEN
READING.

READING.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S
FUNDING FOR THOSE KIDS HEADING

FUNDING FOR THOSE KIDS HEADING
TOWARD THIRD GRADE OTHERWISE

TOWARD THIRD GRADE OTHERWISE
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE ON.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE ON.
WE ALSO HAVE, GOSH, OUR DATA

WE ALSO HAVE, GOSH, OUR DATA
SYSTEM TO HANDLE ALL THE NEW

SYSTEM TO HANDLE ALL THE NEW
REFORMS.

REFORMS.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE
AN EFFECTIVE STATEWIDE DATA

AN EFFECTIVE STATEWIDE DATA
SYSTEM TO HANDLE THE

SYSTEM TO HANDLE THE
ASSESSMENTS.

ASSESSMENTS.
WE CAN TARGET THE SKILLS IN OUR

WE CAN TARGET THE SKILLS IN OUR
CHILDREN TO HELP THEM ACHIEVE.

CHILDREN TO HELP THEM ACHIEVE.
>> A LONGER VERSION OF MY

>> A LONGER VERSION OF MY
INTERVIEW CAN BE SEEN AT

INTERVIEW CAN BE SEEN AT
WWW.AZPM.ORG.

WWW.AZPM.ORG.
THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PROPOSAL

THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PROPOSAL
WAS RELEASED AFTER WE RECORDED

WAS RELEASED AFTER WE RECORDED
THIS PROGRAM.

THIS PROGRAM.
FOR DETAILS GO TO WWW.AZPM.ORG.

FOR DETAILS GO TO WWW.AZPM.ORG.
FOR NEXT FRIDAY, WE ARE SEEKING

FOR NEXT FRIDAY, WE ARE SEEKING
INTERVIEWS WITH ARIZONA U.S.

INTERVIEWS WITH ARIZONA U.S.
SENATORS, JOHN McCAIN AND JEFF.

SENATORS, JOHN McCAIN AND JEFF.
FOR ARIZONA WEEK, I'M MICHAEL

FOR ARIZONA WEEK, I'M MICHAEL
CHIHAK.

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