1 00:00:02,302 --> 00:00:05,136 . 2 00:00:05,139 --> 00:00:06,637 >>> ARIZONA POLITICO FOUND OUT. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,705 >> I'M A DIE-HARD REPUBLICAN. 4 00:00:07,708 --> 00:00:09,707 I CAN'T VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP. 5 00:00:09,710 --> 00:00:10,041 I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR 6 00:00:10,044 --> 00:00:11,609 HILLARY. 7 00:00:11,612 --> 00:00:11,976 >> HELPING OR HURTING PARTY 8 00:00:11,979 --> 00:00:12,710 POLITICS? 9 00:00:12,713 --> 00:00:14,445 >> DONALD TRUMP MIGHT BE THE 10 00:00:14,448 --> 00:00:15,179 GREATEST PRINT-OUT MACHINE FOR 11 00:00:15,182 --> 00:00:16,047 DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT WE HAVE 12 00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:17,648 EVER SEEN. 13 00:00:17,651 --> 00:00:18,049 >> WHAT'S IN STORE FOR THE NEXT 14 00:00:18,052 --> 00:00:20,251 TWO MONTHS? 15 00:00:20,254 --> 00:00:21,319 >> NOW IT'S A GAME OF MAKING 16 00:00:21,322 --> 00:00:22,186 SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY UNFORCED 17 00:00:22,189 --> 00:00:22,954 ERRORS, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A 18 00:00:22,957 --> 00:00:23,721 PATH TO THE PRESIDENCY. 19 00:00:23,724 --> 00:00:25,356 IT'S SET. 20 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:26,891 >> SOME OF ARIZONA'S BEST 21 00:00:26,894 --> 00:00:28,126 POLITICAL STRATEGISTS WEIGH IN 22 00:00:28,129 --> 00:00:28,493 ON WHAT'S BECOMING A HISTORIC 23 00:00:28,496 --> 00:00:42,273 CAMPAIGN. 24 00:00:42,276 --> 00:00:43,074 THIS IS ARIZONA WEEK. 25 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:43,741 >>> HELLO. 26 00:00:43,744 --> 00:00:45,410 THANKS FOR JOINING US. 27 00:00:45,413 --> 00:00:46,544 THIS ELECTION IS UNLIKE ANY 28 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:48,780 WE'VE SEEN BEFORE. 29 00:00:48,783 --> 00:00:51,082 THE CAMPAIGN DOMINATED THE 30 00:00:51,085 --> 00:00:52,650 AIRWAVES AND CONVERSATIONS. 31 00:00:52,653 --> 00:00:53,818 TODAY A DISCUSSION AMONG THREE 32 00:00:53,821 --> 00:00:55,820 POLITICAL STRATEGISTS AND WHAT 33 00:00:55,823 --> 00:00:59,557 THEY THINK WILL HAPPEN BEFORE 34 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,525 AMERICA ELECTS ITS NEXT 35 00:01:00,528 --> 00:01:02,126 PRESIDENT. 36 00:01:02,129 --> 00:01:02,560 HERE WE ARE A CONSERVATIVE STATE 37 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:03,828 TRADITIONALLY. 38 00:01:03,831 --> 00:01:04,162 ARE THINGS ABOUT TO SHIFT IN 39 00:01:04,165 --> 00:01:05,129 ARIZONA? 40 00:01:05,132 --> 00:01:06,364 >> I DON'T THINK SO. 41 00:01:06,367 --> 00:01:08,066 I THINK THE DEMOCRATS HAVE FOR 42 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:09,000 YEARS SINCE THE LATE 1990s 43 00:01:09,003 --> 00:01:09,967 TALKED ABOUT HOW ARIZONA WAS 44 00:01:09,970 --> 00:01:11,736 GOING TO SHIFT, AND THIS 45 00:01:11,739 --> 00:01:16,841 STARTED, WHEN, IN 1996 WHEN BILL 46 00:01:16,844 --> 00:01:18,676 CLINTON WON THE STATE. 47 00:01:18,679 --> 00:01:19,877 THE ONLY REASON HE WON ARIZONA 48 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:30,488 WAS BECAUSE ROSS PEROT PULLED SO 49 00:01:30,491 --> 00:01:32,657 MUCH OF THE VOTE AWAY FROM BUSH. 50 00:01:32,660 --> 00:01:34,192 PEOPLE SAID THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE 51 00:01:34,195 --> 00:01:34,926 GOING TO CHANGE IN THE LAWSUIT 52 00:01:34,929 --> 00:01:35,760 1990s. 53 00:01:35,763 --> 00:01:37,862 AT THIS TIME I SAID IT IS GOING 54 00:01:37,865 --> 00:01:38,196 TO CHANGE IN A COUPLE OF 55 00:01:38,199 --> 00:01:39,497 DECADES. 56 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:39,964 IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANY 57 00:01:39,967 --> 00:01:42,533 TIME SOON. 58 00:01:42,536 --> 00:01:43,201 HERE WE ARE TODAY. 59 00:01:43,204 --> 00:01:44,435 DONALD TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE. 60 00:01:44,438 --> 00:01:46,404 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING HE IS 61 00:01:46,407 --> 00:01:46,738 GOING TO CLAIM THE LATINO 62 00:01:46,741 --> 00:01:49,073 TURNOUT. 63 00:01:49,076 --> 00:01:49,607 THE LATINO TURNOUT MIGHT SPIKE A 64 00:01:49,610 --> 00:01:51,209 LITTLE BIT. 65 00:01:51,212 --> 00:01:53,344 THERE MIGHT BE A HANDFUL. 66 00:01:53,347 --> 00:01:55,279 FOR EVERY NEW LATINO VOTER THAT 67 00:01:55,282 --> 00:01:56,781 TRUMP DRIVES OUT, A WHITE-COLLAR 68 00:01:56,784 --> 00:01:57,515 DEMOCRAT IS GOING -- OR 69 00:01:57,518 --> 00:02:07,058 BLUE-COLLAR DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO 70 00:02:07,061 --> 00:02:08,826 VOTE FOR HIM. 71 00:02:08,829 --> 00:02:10,261 IN 2024 IS WHEN WE'RE GOING ON 72 00:02:10,264 --> 00:02:11,195 SEE A SHIFT IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS 73 00:02:11,198 --> 00:02:13,831 WHERE THEY HAVE A REAL 74 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:16,234 OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE STATE 75 00:02:16,237 --> 00:02:19,070 BLUE UNLESS REPUBLICANS COULD 76 00:02:19,073 --> 00:02:20,938 FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EMBRACE A 77 00:02:20,941 --> 00:02:22,040 YOUNGER POPULATION, HISPANIC 78 00:02:22,043 --> 00:02:23,274 POPULATION INTO THEIR RANKS. 79 00:02:23,277 --> 00:02:24,475 >> JASON, DO YOU THINK HILLARY 80 00:02:24,478 --> 00:02:24,842 IS ABOUT TO TAKE ARIZONA THIS 81 00:02:24,845 --> 00:02:26,644 ELECTION? 82 00:02:26,647 --> 00:02:28,813 >> YOU KNOW, WELL, I AGREE THE 83 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:30,314 DEMOCRATS TALK ABOUT IT EVERY 84 00:02:30,317 --> 00:02:31,115 YEAR, AND IT'S ONE OF OUR 85 00:02:31,118 --> 00:02:31,983 TALKING POINTS WE HAVE EVERY 86 00:02:31,986 --> 00:02:33,284 ELECTION CYCLE THAT WE'RE GOING 87 00:02:33,287 --> 00:02:35,620 TO GET THE YOUTH VOTE, WE'RE 88 00:02:35,623 --> 00:02:37,855 GOING TO GET THE HISPANICS TO 89 00:02:37,858 --> 00:02:38,589 VOTE, AND IT RARELY HAPPENS. 90 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:39,624 WHAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT 91 00:02:39,627 --> 00:02:41,659 ABOUT THIS CYCLE, THOUGH, IS WE 92 00:02:41,662 --> 00:02:43,161 HAVE TIME TO FOCUS ON REALLY 93 00:02:43,164 --> 00:02:44,762 GETTING THE TURNOUT TO ENGAGE. 94 00:02:44,765 --> 00:02:47,131 YOU DON'T HAVE TO REALLY ENGAGE 95 00:02:47,134 --> 00:02:48,766 ANY POLICY DISCUSSIONS OR HAVE 96 00:02:48,769 --> 00:02:49,600 PEOPLE TRYING TO ACCEPT IT. 97 00:02:49,603 --> 00:02:50,835 WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 98 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:52,270 WE HAVE THREE MONTHS TO REALLY 99 00:02:52,273 --> 00:02:53,838 KIND OF MOVE BODIES NOW. 100 00:02:53,841 --> 00:02:56,874 WHAT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, 101 00:02:56,877 --> 00:02:58,009 THOUGH, IS THAT I RARELY SEE 102 00:02:58,012 --> 00:03:00,278 PEOPLE TURN OUT TO VOTE AGAINST 103 00:03:00,281 --> 00:03:01,012 SOMEBODY, AND THEY USUALLY TURN 104 00:03:01,015 --> 00:03:02,413 OUT TO VOTE FOR SOMEBODY, WHICH 105 00:03:02,416 --> 00:03:03,047 IS WHERE WE'RE IN KIND OF A 106 00:03:03,050 --> 00:03:04,382 PROBLEM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE 107 00:03:04,385 --> 00:03:06,150 THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO 108 00:03:06,153 --> 00:03:08,019 ARE VERY ACCEPTING OF CLINTON AS 109 00:03:08,022 --> 00:03:09,987 THEIR CANDIDATE, SO THAT COULD 110 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:11,489 BE THE PROBLEM WHERE ONCE AGAIN 111 00:03:11,492 --> 00:03:14,359 WE'VE DONE A LOT OF TALK AND 112 00:03:14,362 --> 00:03:14,726 HAVE LITTLE TO SHOW FOR IT IN 113 00:03:14,729 --> 00:03:15,426 NOVEMBER. 114 00:03:15,429 --> 00:03:17,528 >> MATTHEW, DONALD TRUMP HAS 115 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:18,196 SAID THINGS THAT HAVE EVEN MADE 116 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:19,263 CONSERVATIVES CRINGE. 117 00:03:19,266 --> 00:03:21,733 THAT HELP OR HURT HIM RIGHT NOW? 118 00:03:21,736 --> 00:03:23,601 >> OH, OF COURSE, IT HURTS HIM. 119 00:03:23,604 --> 00:03:24,435 HE HAS SHOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT 120 00:03:24,438 --> 00:03:26,804 MULTIPLE TIMES. 121 00:03:26,807 --> 00:03:28,840 THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO IS 122 00:03:28,843 --> 00:03:29,173 LOSING MINORITY VOTERS BY 60 123 00:03:29,176 --> 00:03:30,508 POINTS. 124 00:03:30,511 --> 00:03:30,842 I MEAN, THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE 125 00:03:30,845 --> 00:03:32,577 MARGIN. 126 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:33,478 HE IS LOSING COLLEGE-INDICATED 127 00:03:33,481 --> 00:03:34,746 WHITES BY LARGE NUMBERS. 128 00:03:34,749 --> 00:03:37,682 BY DOUBLE DIGITS. 129 00:03:37,685 --> 00:03:40,585 HE IS LOSING WOMEN BY 15 POINTS. 130 00:03:40,588 --> 00:03:43,254 I AGREE WITH SEAN THAT THIS TIME 131 00:03:43,257 --> 00:03:45,790 WITH THE LATINO VOTE WHEN 132 00:03:45,793 --> 00:03:47,191 ARIZONA GOES BLUE IS NOT HERE 133 00:03:47,194 --> 00:03:49,427 YET, BUT DONALD TRUMP MAY BE THE 134 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:51,129 GREATEST TURNOUT MACHINE FOR 135 00:03:51,132 --> 00:03:55,400 DEMOCRAT VOTERS WE HAVE EVER 136 00:03:55,403 --> 00:03:56,134 SEEN, AND HIS RHETORIC -- I 137 00:03:56,137 --> 00:03:57,368 DON'T KNOW THAT HILLARY CAN WIN 138 00:03:57,371 --> 00:03:59,971 ARIZONA THIS YEAR, BUT HE IS 139 00:03:59,974 --> 00:04:01,539 PUSHING SO MANY VOTERS INTO THE 140 00:04:01,542 --> 00:04:03,341 DEMOCRAT COLUMN. 141 00:04:03,344 --> 00:04:04,642 I THINK THAT HE IS FAST 142 00:04:04,645 --> 00:04:05,843 FORWARDING THE DEGREE TO WHICH 143 00:04:05,846 --> 00:04:07,078 ARIZONA BEGINS TO SHIFT. 144 00:04:07,081 --> 00:04:09,547 >> I THINK THAT -- I MEAN, I 145 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:10,782 DON'T KNOW THAT HE IS PUSHING 146 00:04:10,785 --> 00:04:13,685 VOTERS INTO THE DEMOCRAT COLUMN 147 00:04:13,688 --> 00:04:14,218 AS MUCH AS HE IS, LIKE, I'M A 148 00:04:14,221 --> 00:04:15,553 DIE-HARD REPUBLICAN. 149 00:04:15,556 --> 00:04:17,655 I CAN'T VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP. 150 00:04:17,658 --> 00:04:18,022 I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR 151 00:04:18,025 --> 00:04:24,696 HILLARY. 152 00:04:24,699 --> 00:04:26,364 YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE -- I KNOW 153 00:04:26,367 --> 00:04:28,700 DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN. 154 00:04:28,703 --> 00:04:30,435 I CAN BE PRINCIPLED IT, AND I 155 00:04:30,438 --> 00:04:30,902 WILL PROBABLY WRITE IN MARCO 156 00:04:30,905 --> 00:04:33,404 RUBIO, PROBABLY. 157 00:04:33,407 --> 00:04:34,005 THE POINT IS THAT HE IS 158 00:04:34,008 --> 00:04:34,405 ABANDONING CONSERVATIVE 159 00:04:34,408 --> 00:04:35,540 PRINCIPLES. 160 00:04:35,543 --> 00:04:36,140 HE ACTUALLY NEVER HAD 161 00:04:36,143 --> 00:04:37,442 CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES. 162 00:04:37,445 --> 00:04:39,510 IF YOU WATCH HIS CONVENTION 163 00:04:39,513 --> 00:04:41,846 SPEECH, I TWEETED THIS AT THE 164 00:04:41,849 --> 00:04:42,814 TIME, THIS IS A 1960s THROWBACK 165 00:04:42,817 --> 00:04:43,348 DEMOCRAT NATIONAL CONVENTION 166 00:04:43,351 --> 00:04:44,349 SPEECH. 167 00:04:44,352 --> 00:04:45,350 HE WAS TALKING ABOUT USING 168 00:04:45,353 --> 00:04:47,251 GOVERNMENT TO CREATE JOBS. 169 00:04:47,254 --> 00:04:49,821 YOU KNOW, BIG PROGRAMS. 170 00:04:49,824 --> 00:04:50,355 I MEAN, HE PUT OBAMA STIMULUS 171 00:04:50,358 --> 00:04:54,158 PACKAGE TO SHAME. 172 00:04:54,161 --> 00:04:55,259 I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG 173 00:04:55,262 --> 00:04:56,194 GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, I'M THE 174 00:04:56,197 --> 00:04:56,995 GUY THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE ALL 175 00:04:56,998 --> 00:04:59,430 THE PROBLEMS. 176 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:00,531 NOT ONLY THE BIG GOVERNMENT AND 177 00:05:00,534 --> 00:05:01,733 THE DEMOCRAT PHILOSOPHY, AND 178 00:05:01,736 --> 00:05:02,367 IT'S I'M THE GUY THAT'S GOING TO 179 00:05:02,370 --> 00:05:03,868 GET IT DONE. 180 00:05:03,871 --> 00:05:04,769 HE IS TOTALLY TAKING THE 181 00:05:04,772 --> 00:05:05,069 EXECUTIVE BRAFRMG TO A NEW 182 00:05:05,072 --> 00:05:05,803 LEVEL. 183 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:07,105 >> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 184 00:05:07,108 --> 00:05:08,272 >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PUSHING 185 00:05:08,275 --> 00:05:09,741 VOTERS INTO THE DEMOCRAT COLUMN, 186 00:05:09,744 --> 00:05:10,341 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FOLKS LIKE 187 00:05:10,344 --> 00:05:12,043 SEAN. 188 00:05:12,046 --> 00:05:15,279 I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR, LET'S 189 00:05:15,282 --> 00:05:16,881 SAY, A LATINO VOTER WHO MAY BE 190 00:05:16,884 --> 00:05:19,183 CATHOLIC, MAYBE THEY'VE GOT 191 00:05:19,186 --> 00:05:20,418 CONSERVATIVE SOCIAL VIEWS, 192 00:05:20,421 --> 00:05:21,486 RIGHT, THEY OPPOSE ABORTION, 193 00:05:21,489 --> 00:05:22,553 THEY'RE HARD-WORKING, AND THEY 194 00:05:22,556 --> 00:05:24,122 HAVE VALUES THAT WOULD PUT THEM 195 00:05:24,125 --> 00:05:25,390 MORE IN LINE WITH MAYBE A 196 00:05:25,393 --> 00:05:26,824 REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE, BUT THEY 197 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:29,127 LOOK AT THE STANDARD BEARER OF 198 00:05:29,130 --> 00:05:30,662 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN 2016 AND 199 00:05:30,665 --> 00:05:32,664 SAY I CAN'T VOTE. 200 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:34,132 THAT IS NOT MY HOME. 201 00:05:34,135 --> 00:05:34,465 THAT PARTY IS NOT WHERE I 202 00:05:34,468 --> 00:05:36,100 BELONG. 203 00:05:36,103 --> 00:05:36,968 THEY'RE GOING TO END UP IN THE 204 00:05:36,971 --> 00:05:39,203 DEMOCRAT COLUMN. 205 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:39,537 THIS YEAR AND MAYBE GOING 206 00:05:39,540 --> 00:05:41,739 FORWARD. 207 00:05:41,742 --> 00:05:42,006 THAT'S THE TRUE RISK HERE TO THE 208 00:05:42,009 --> 00:05:42,874 GOP. 209 00:05:42,877 --> 00:05:44,308 >> AND DONALD TRUMP HAS REALLY 210 00:05:44,311 --> 00:05:46,544 OPENED UP THAT DOOR TO MAKE IT 211 00:05:46,547 --> 00:05:47,478 HAPPEN BECAUSE IN ARIZONA THE 212 00:05:47,481 --> 00:05:49,647 DEMOCRATS REALLY HAVEN'T SPENT 213 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:51,115 THE TIME OR MONEY HERE TO REALLY 214 00:05:51,118 --> 00:05:52,617 ENGAGE AND TALK TO THOSE VOTERS, 215 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:54,052 BUT HE HAS NOW OPENED A DOOR 216 00:05:54,055 --> 00:05:55,953 WHERE THE DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING, 217 00:05:55,956 --> 00:05:57,689 HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WINNING 218 00:05:57,692 --> 00:05:58,923 ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE NATION. 219 00:05:58,926 --> 00:06:00,024 LET'S SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN 220 00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:02,694 SPEND IN ARIZONA AND START 221 00:06:02,697 --> 00:06:03,428 LAYING THAT GROUND WORK, AND 222 00:06:03,431 --> 00:06:05,997 THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO PAY 223 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,864 OFF IN 2020, 2024, AND REALLY 224 00:06:06,867 --> 00:06:07,598 ACCELERATE THE TIMELINE OF 225 00:06:07,601 --> 00:06:08,466 DEMOCRATS HAVING AN IMPACT HERE 226 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:10,768 IN ARIZONA. 227 00:06:10,771 --> 00:06:12,937 >> JASON, THIS IS THE FIRST 228 00:06:12,940 --> 00:06:13,304 FEMALE NOMINEE FOR THE 229 00:06:13,307 --> 00:06:15,506 DEMOCRATS. 230 00:06:15,509 --> 00:06:17,241 IS SHE RUNNING THE RIGHT 231 00:06:17,244 --> 00:06:17,809 CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE HUGE STAR 232 00:06:17,812 --> 00:06:19,477 POWER IN DONALD TRUMP. 233 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,112 >> I THINK SHE'S RUNNING A GREAT 234 00:06:21,115 --> 00:06:22,113 CAMPAIGN RIGHT NOW AGAINST 235 00:06:22,116 --> 00:06:24,282 DONALD TRUMP. 236 00:06:24,285 --> 00:06:27,652 I MEAN, THE NUMBER SHOWS. 237 00:06:27,655 --> 00:06:28,586 YOU HAVE AN UNPOPULAR CANDIDATE. 238 00:06:28,589 --> 00:06:31,222 YET, WITH DONALD TRUMP WHO HAS 239 00:06:31,225 --> 00:06:32,990 CREATED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HER 240 00:06:32,993 --> 00:06:33,825 TO BASICALLY COAST BY, SHE'S 241 00:06:33,828 --> 00:06:34,525 RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN SHE NEEDS 242 00:06:34,528 --> 00:06:36,260 TO WIN. 243 00:06:36,263 --> 00:06:38,096 KEEP HER HEAD DOWN NOW AND LET 244 00:06:38,099 --> 00:06:38,997 THE NEXT THREE MONTHS GO BY 245 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,298 WITHOUT MAKING ANY ERRORS. 246 00:06:40,301 --> 00:06:41,666 NOW IT'S A GAME OF MAKING SURE 247 00:06:41,669 --> 00:06:42,967 THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY UNFORCED 248 00:06:42,970 --> 00:06:51,109 ERRORS AND YOU SHOULD HAVE THE 249 00:06:51,112 --> 00:06:52,210 PATH TO THE PRESIDENCY. 250 00:06:52,213 --> 00:06:53,544 THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO WIN 251 00:06:53,547 --> 00:06:55,113 THE PRESIDENCY IS GOING TO DO IT 252 00:06:55,116 --> 00:06:56,414 BY DEFAULT. 253 00:06:56,417 --> 00:06:57,148 IF SHE DOESN'T SCREW IT UP, 254 00:06:57,151 --> 00:06:58,416 SHE'LL WIN BECAUSE THIS OTHER 255 00:06:58,419 --> 00:07:00,184 GUY IS SO BAD. 256 00:07:00,187 --> 00:07:01,953 IF SHE WERE RUNNING AGAINST 257 00:07:01,956 --> 00:07:03,921 ALMOST ANYONE ELSE, BUT MAYBE 258 00:07:03,924 --> 00:07:05,490 NOT TED CRUZ, BUT IF MARCO RUBIO 259 00:07:05,493 --> 00:07:06,424 WERE THE NOMINEE, SHE WOULD BE 260 00:07:06,427 --> 00:07:07,692 DEAD AND DONE RIGHT NOW. 261 00:07:07,695 --> 00:07:13,631 THIS WOULD BE MARCO IS WALKING 262 00:07:13,634 --> 00:07:14,799 INTO IT WITHOUT ANY QUESTION. 263 00:07:14,802 --> 00:07:16,334 THE NATION KRAIFZ CHANGE AND 264 00:07:16,337 --> 00:07:18,269 SOMETHING NEW, AND THAT'S NOT 265 00:07:18,272 --> 00:07:20,972 HILLARY CLINTON, AND DONALD 266 00:07:20,975 --> 00:07:22,407 TRUMP IS NOT PALETABLE TO 267 00:07:22,410 --> 00:07:22,740 ENOUGH PEOPLE TO BE THE KIND OF 268 00:07:22,743 --> 00:07:23,541 CHANGE. 269 00:07:23,544 --> 00:07:24,042 I DON'T THINK HE IS CHANGE 270 00:07:24,045 --> 00:07:27,712 EITHER. 271 00:07:27,715 --> 00:07:29,847 I STILL THINK THIS IS A BIG 272 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:31,416 HOAX. 273 00:07:31,419 --> 00:07:31,749 HE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH BILL 274 00:07:31,752 --> 00:07:32,950 CLINTON. 275 00:07:32,953 --> 00:07:33,384 THEN HE ANNOUNCED HE IS RUNNING 276 00:07:33,387 --> 00:07:34,819 FOR PRESIDENT. 277 00:07:34,822 --> 00:07:37,221 THEN HE DOES EVERYTHING HE COULD 278 00:07:37,224 --> 00:07:37,622 DO TO POSSIBLY SABOTAGE HIS OWN 279 00:07:37,625 --> 00:07:38,389 NOMINATION. 280 00:07:38,392 --> 00:07:40,191 PROBABLY NOT COUNTING ON THE 281 00:07:40,194 --> 00:07:42,226 FACT THAT PEOPLE WERE SO FED UP 282 00:07:42,229 --> 00:07:44,195 WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT AND HE 283 00:07:44,198 --> 00:07:46,931 WAS -- THEY WERE -- SO MANY BETA 284 00:07:46,934 --> 00:07:50,234 MALES LOOKING FOR THE ALPHA MALE 285 00:07:50,237 --> 00:07:50,902 TO LATCH ON TO THAT HE BECAME 286 00:07:50,905 --> 00:07:52,003 THE POPULAR GUY AND WON THE 287 00:07:52,006 --> 00:07:52,403 NOMINATION. 288 00:07:52,406 --> 00:07:53,004 NOMINATION. 289 00:07:53,007 --> 00:07:53,705 NOW THAT HE HAS RUN THE 290 00:07:53,708 --> 00:07:54,472 NOMINATION, HE CAN'T RUN THE 291 00:07:54,475 --> 00:07:55,873 SAME KIND OF CAMPAIGN AND WIN, 292 00:07:55,876 --> 00:07:57,208 BUT HE REFUSES TO PIVOT AND RUN 293 00:07:57,211 --> 00:07:57,942 A REAL CAMPAIGN. 294 00:07:57,945 --> 00:07:59,143 HE IS NOT A SENATOR. 295 00:07:59,146 --> 00:07:59,510 HE IS NOT RUNNING A REAL 296 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:00,345 CAMPAIGN. 297 00:08:00,348 --> 00:08:01,546 >> THIS IS NOT A HOAX. 298 00:08:01,549 --> 00:08:03,247 I MEAN, THIS IS -- WE'RE RUNNING 299 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:05,650 FOR PRESIDENT HERE, CORRECT? 300 00:08:05,653 --> 00:08:07,618 >> I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GO SO 301 00:08:07,621 --> 00:08:09,053 FAR AS TO CALL IT A HOAX, BUT I 302 00:08:09,056 --> 00:08:10,254 WILL SAY -- I THINK THIS IS 303 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:11,823 CERTAINLY THE FIRST CAMPAIGN IN 304 00:08:11,826 --> 00:08:13,091 MY LIFETIME AND MAYBE THE LAST 305 00:08:13,094 --> 00:08:15,660 TIME ANY OF US WILL SEE IT IN 306 00:08:15,663 --> 00:08:17,362 ANY OF OUR LIFETIMES WHERE A 307 00:08:17,365 --> 00:08:19,397 MAJOR POLITICAL PARTY FIELDED A 308 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,498 NOMINEE WHO IS NOT RUNNING AN 309 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:22,533 ACTUAL CAMPAIGN. 310 00:08:22,536 --> 00:08:23,267 HE IS NOT ON AIR. 311 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:29,073 HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CAMPAIGN -- 312 00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:30,308 HE HAS NO ADS ON AIR. 313 00:08:30,311 --> 00:08:30,842 HILLARY CLINTON IS WINNING 9-1 314 00:08:30,845 --> 00:08:33,511 IN AIR TIME. 315 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:35,046 HE DOESN'T HAVE FIELD OFFICES. 316 00:08:35,049 --> 00:08:37,882 THERE'S NO GROUND GAME. 317 00:08:37,885 --> 00:08:38,149 WE HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE 318 00:08:38,152 --> 00:08:41,219 IT. 319 00:08:41,222 --> 00:08:41,753 THERE IS PART OF ME THAT WONDERS 320 00:08:41,756 --> 00:08:42,487 THIS CAN'T BE REAL. 321 00:08:42,490 --> 00:08:44,555 THIS CAN'T BE SERIOUS. 322 00:08:44,558 --> 00:08:46,724 >> HE IS A CELEBRITY 323 00:08:46,727 --> 00:08:48,826 BILLIONAIRE, SO THAT BEING SAID, 324 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:50,828 IS THIS PART OF MAYBE JUST HIS 325 00:08:50,831 --> 00:08:55,400 IDEA THAT HE HAS A NEED FOR 326 00:08:55,403 --> 00:08:57,402 POWER, THE DESIRE TO LEAD? 327 00:08:57,405 --> 00:08:59,737 >> I THINK IF YOU HAVE WATCHED 328 00:08:59,740 --> 00:09:00,071 HIS SHOW, HE LIKES BEING IN 329 00:09:00,074 --> 00:09:01,906 CONTROL. 330 00:09:01,909 --> 00:09:02,774 IT WAS A GREAT IDEA, AND HE SAID 331 00:09:02,777 --> 00:09:04,142 I'M GOING TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF 332 00:09:04,145 --> 00:09:05,209 THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 333 00:09:05,212 --> 00:09:05,677 EVERYBODY WILL THINK I'M THIS 334 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:07,412 GREAT PERSON. 335 00:09:07,415 --> 00:09:08,646 YET, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE 336 00:09:08,649 --> 00:09:09,714 PRACTICALITY OF IT AND HE HAS 337 00:09:09,717 --> 00:09:12,750 ACTUALLY TO DO THE WORK ON IT, 338 00:09:12,753 --> 00:09:13,718 HE DOESN'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN THE 339 00:09:13,721 --> 00:09:14,819 POLICY DISCUSSION, HE DOESN'T 340 00:09:14,822 --> 00:09:15,620 WANT TO BE -- TO HAVE THE 341 00:09:15,623 --> 00:09:17,388 PROFESSIONAL SIDE OF BEING THE 342 00:09:17,391 --> 00:09:17,855 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 343 00:09:17,858 --> 00:09:20,591 TO DEAL WITH. 344 00:09:20,594 --> 00:09:21,559 HE JUST WANTS ALL THE GLORY, AND 345 00:09:21,562 --> 00:09:23,227 THAT REALLY COMES OFF NOW THAT 346 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:24,228 WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO ENGAGE IN 347 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:27,332 THE POLICY DISCUSSION, AND IT 348 00:09:27,335 --> 00:09:28,299 CAN'T JUST BE THE HEADLINES THAT 349 00:09:28,302 --> 00:09:29,200 ARE SELLING HIM. 350 00:09:29,203 --> 00:09:31,002 HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT. 351 00:09:31,005 --> 00:09:32,070 HE DOESN'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN 352 00:09:32,073 --> 00:09:33,071 THAT POLICY DISCUSSION. 353 00:09:33,074 --> 00:09:35,940 I THINK AMERICA, WHAT WE'RE 354 00:09:35,943 --> 00:09:37,408 SEEING HERE, IS WE REALLY DO 355 00:09:37,411 --> 00:09:38,309 NEED THAT. 356 00:09:38,312 --> 00:09:40,044 WE CAN'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT 357 00:09:40,047 --> 00:09:40,411 THROWS UP THE HEADLINE OR THE 358 00:09:40,414 --> 00:09:41,646 ONE-LINER. 359 00:09:41,649 --> 00:09:43,348 WE NEED SOMEBODY TO ENGAGE IN 360 00:09:43,351 --> 00:09:44,349 THAT DISCUSSION, AND FRANKLY, HE 361 00:09:44,352 --> 00:09:45,583 IS NOT IT. 362 00:09:45,586 --> 00:09:47,418 >> HE IS RICH. 363 00:09:47,421 --> 00:09:48,319 HE PICKED THE WRONG CAN THE TO 364 00:09:48,322 --> 00:09:49,620 RUN FOR PRESIDENT. 365 00:09:49,623 --> 00:09:50,888 THIS ISN'T THE KIND OF PLACE 366 00:09:50,891 --> 00:09:52,857 WITH A GUY LIKE HIS 367 00:09:52,860 --> 00:09:53,224 PERSONALITY -- HE WANTS TO BE A 368 00:09:53,227 --> 00:09:56,060 DICTATOR. 369 00:09:56,063 --> 00:09:57,261 HE IS IN THE WRONG PLACE. 370 00:09:57,264 --> 00:09:58,196 >>> MORE WITH THOSE THREE IN 371 00:09:58,199 --> 00:10:00,431 JUST A FEW MINUTES. 372 00:10:00,434 --> 00:10:02,100 MOVING NOW TO POLITICAL POLLS. 373 00:10:02,103 --> 00:10:03,201 HOW ACCURATE ARE THE DATA, AND 374 00:10:03,204 --> 00:10:04,635 WHAT DO SURVEYS TELL US ABOUT 375 00:10:04,638 --> 00:10:07,205 THE ELECTIONS? 376 00:10:07,208 --> 00:10:10,641 HERE'S MIKE NOBLE, A POLLSTER 377 00:10:10,644 --> 00:10:10,975 WITH OH PREDICTIVE INSIGHTS IN 378 00:10:10,978 --> 00:10:12,543 PHOENIX. 379 00:10:12,546 --> 00:10:14,545 >> WHAT WE DO IS FIGURE OUT NOT 380 00:10:14,548 --> 00:10:16,214 ONLY WHAT THE PUBLIC IS 381 00:10:16,217 --> 00:10:18,116 THINKING, BUT ALSO WHERE WE 382 00:10:18,119 --> 00:10:19,283 THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO ON THE 383 00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:20,018 ISSUES, AND IT'S VERY 384 00:10:20,021 --> 00:10:22,153 INTERESTING WITH POLLING THAT I 385 00:10:22,156 --> 00:10:25,156 THINK WE GET A BAD RAP SOMETIMES 386 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:26,624 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW -- BECAUSE 387 00:10:26,627 --> 00:10:28,493 TECHNICALLY ANYONE COULD REALLY 388 00:10:28,496 --> 00:10:30,628 POLL OR BE A POLLSTER. 389 00:10:30,631 --> 00:10:33,264 THE TRICK IS FIGURING OUT WHO IS 390 00:10:33,267 --> 00:10:35,299 LIKELY TO TURN OUT TO VOTE. 391 00:10:35,302 --> 00:10:36,834 ESPECIALLY IN PRIMARY ELECTRICS 392 00:10:36,837 --> 00:10:38,169 THAT ARE A PRIME EXAMPLE. 393 00:10:38,172 --> 00:10:39,604 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF 394 00:10:39,607 --> 00:10:40,471 PRIMARY ELECTIONS HERE IN 395 00:10:40,474 --> 00:10:41,239 ARIZONA, THE NUMBERS REALLY 396 00:10:41,242 --> 00:10:43,641 DON'T CHANGE FROM PRESIDENTIAL 397 00:10:43,644 --> 00:10:44,942 YEARS TO MIDTERM YEARS. 398 00:10:44,945 --> 00:10:45,576 IT'S REALLY THE SAME FOLKS 399 00:10:45,579 --> 00:10:47,979 COMING OUT TO VOTE. 400 00:10:47,982 --> 00:10:49,313 WHEN YOU LOOK AT WE HAVE, LET'S 401 00:10:49,316 --> 00:10:52,550 SAY, ONE MILLION RESIDENTS HERE, 402 00:10:52,553 --> 00:10:54,686 RIGHT, AND THEN OF THOSE 50% OR 403 00:10:54,689 --> 00:10:56,020 SO ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE. 404 00:10:56,023 --> 00:10:56,754 YOU HAVE THESE FOLKS THAT ARE 405 00:10:56,757 --> 00:10:59,957 ACTUALLY GOING TO COME OUT AND 406 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:00,958 VOTE, BUT IN A PRIMARY, YOU HAVE 407 00:11:00,961 --> 00:11:01,392 DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, 408 00:11:01,395 --> 00:11:03,261 INDEPENDENTS. 409 00:11:03,264 --> 00:11:03,594 NOW IT'S EVEN DOWN TO A SMALLER 410 00:11:03,597 --> 00:11:06,064 SLIVER. 411 00:11:06,067 --> 00:11:08,833 HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT BASED ON, 412 00:11:08,836 --> 00:11:09,567 YOU KNOW, WHAT WE THINK THE 413 00:11:09,570 --> 00:11:10,568 TURNOUT IS GOING TO BE AND THE 414 00:11:10,571 --> 00:11:11,736 FOLKS THAT ARE LIKELY TO VOTE. 415 00:11:11,739 --> 00:11:12,036 WHERE THOSE FOLKS ARE GOING TO 416 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:14,906 FALL. 417 00:11:14,909 --> 00:11:15,473 >> HOW DO YOU COLLECT THIS DATA? 418 00:11:15,476 --> 00:11:16,207 IS IT OVER THE PHONE? 419 00:11:16,210 --> 00:11:18,943 >> WELL, YOU COLLECT IT OVER THE 420 00:11:18,946 --> 00:11:19,377 PHONE, BUT YOU GO BASED ON THEIR 421 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:21,646 VOTER HISTORY. 422 00:11:21,649 --> 00:11:22,847 AS SOMEONE WERE TO -- IF I KNEW 423 00:11:22,850 --> 00:11:25,183 YOU VOTED FOUR OUT OF THE LAST 424 00:11:25,186 --> 00:11:26,184 FOUR ELECTIONS, ABOUT 95% CHANCE 425 00:11:26,187 --> 00:11:27,785 YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE 426 00:11:27,788 --> 00:11:29,153 VOTING AGAIN, RIGHT? 427 00:11:29,156 --> 00:11:30,688 OR LET'S SAY YOU'RE VOTED OUT OF 428 00:11:30,691 --> 00:11:32,423 THE LAST THREE ON TO FOUR, 429 00:11:32,426 --> 00:11:33,925 THERE'S AN 85% CHANCE OF VOTING. 430 00:11:33,928 --> 00:11:36,928 AS YOU GO FARTHER DOWN THE LINE, 431 00:11:36,931 --> 00:11:38,229 IF YOU NEVER VOTED IN ELECTIONS, 432 00:11:38,232 --> 00:11:40,531 WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT YOU 433 00:11:40,534 --> 00:11:40,999 POSSIBLY ARE GOING TO BE COMING 434 00:11:41,002 --> 00:11:42,166 OUT TO VOTE NOW? 435 00:11:42,169 --> 00:11:44,202 THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU SEE THE 436 00:11:44,205 --> 00:11:45,770 ISSUES IN POLLING IS WHEN THEY 437 00:11:45,773 --> 00:11:48,906 JUST SAID THEY SAMPLED 438 00:11:48,909 --> 00:11:50,008 REGISTERED VOTERS. 439 00:11:50,011 --> 00:11:50,742 IT'S GREAT YOU'RE A REBELLING 440 00:11:50,745 --> 00:11:51,442 REGISTERED VOTER, BUT ARE YOU 441 00:11:51,445 --> 00:11:52,276 REGISTERED VOTER, BUT ARE YOU 442 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:52,643 GOING TO BE VOTING IN THIS 443 00:11:52,646 --> 00:11:54,045 ELECTION? 444 00:11:54,048 --> 00:11:55,013 YOU ALSO ASK IN THE BEGINNING. 445 00:11:55,016 --> 00:11:56,547 WE KNOW THEIR HISTORY, BUT THEN 446 00:11:56,550 --> 00:11:58,216 WE VERIFY THAT AND SAY HOW 447 00:11:58,219 --> 00:11:59,784 LIKELY ARE YOU TO VOTE IN THIS 448 00:11:59,787 --> 00:12:00,985 UPCOMING ELECTION, AND UNLESS 449 00:12:00,988 --> 00:12:01,719 YOU'RE VERY LIKELY OR LIKELY, I 450 00:12:01,722 --> 00:12:03,888 DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY 451 00:12:03,891 --> 00:12:04,222 BE TAKING THIS SURVEY, IN MY 452 00:12:04,225 --> 00:12:06,491 OPINION. 453 00:12:06,494 --> 00:12:07,225 >> SOME OF THE POLLS HAVE BEEN 454 00:12:07,228 --> 00:12:08,760 OFF WHEN IT COMES TO HOW DONALD 455 00:12:08,763 --> 00:12:11,262 TRUMP IS DOING, HOW HILLARY 456 00:12:11,265 --> 00:12:11,996 CLINTON IS DOING. 457 00:12:11,999 --> 00:12:13,131 THAT LEAVES THE AMERICAN VOTER 458 00:12:13,134 --> 00:12:14,432 TO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THESE 459 00:12:14,435 --> 00:12:15,299 POLLS ARE GOING WE SHOULD EVEN 460 00:12:15,302 --> 00:12:15,833 BE TALKING ABOUT. 461 00:12:15,836 --> 00:12:17,869 >> CORRECT. 462 00:12:17,872 --> 00:12:18,202 I THINK YOU HEAR FROM DIFFERENT 463 00:12:18,205 --> 00:12:19,537 ANGLES. 464 00:12:19,540 --> 00:12:21,839 I THINK THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS 465 00:12:21,842 --> 00:12:24,609 SAYING THESE POLLS ARE WRONG. 466 00:12:24,612 --> 00:12:25,810 IT MAY BE, BUT OVERALL THERE 467 00:12:25,813 --> 00:12:26,844 DEFINITELY IS A SCIENCE TO 468 00:12:26,847 --> 00:12:28,012 MODERATE ESH DAY POLLING, AND, 469 00:12:28,015 --> 00:12:29,180 YEAH, SOME FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE 470 00:12:29,183 --> 00:12:31,616 WRONG, AND THAT'S WHY IT REALLY 471 00:12:31,619 --> 00:12:32,016 COMES DOWN TO THE POLLSTER AND 472 00:12:32,019 --> 00:12:35,420 METHODOLOGY. 473 00:12:35,423 --> 00:12:37,522 I THINK IF YOU KNOW IN A CERTAIN 474 00:12:37,525 --> 00:12:38,823 DISTRICT THAT THERE'S A HEAVY 475 00:12:38,826 --> 00:12:39,957 HISPANIC POPULATION, YOU KNOW, 476 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,760 THEY'RE MOTIVATED TO VOTE, YOU 477 00:12:42,763 --> 00:12:43,528 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S 478 00:12:43,531 --> 00:12:45,530 REPRESENTATIVE IN YOUR SAMPLE. 479 00:12:45,533 --> 00:12:47,498 IF YOU DON'T SAMPLE ANY OF THOSE 480 00:12:47,501 --> 00:12:48,199 HISPANICS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE 481 00:12:48,202 --> 00:12:49,000 OFF BECAUSE HAVE YOU TO TAKE 482 00:12:49,003 --> 00:12:51,302 INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE EACH 483 00:12:51,305 --> 00:12:53,438 DISTRICT, EACH ELECTION HAS ITS 484 00:12:53,441 --> 00:12:55,273 OWN DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC. 485 00:12:55,276 --> 00:12:57,375 IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO SEE, 486 00:12:57,378 --> 00:12:59,544 YOU KNOW, WHY -- I SAW ONE POLL. 487 00:12:59,547 --> 00:12:59,877 I THINK THE FOLKS WERE OFF BY 80 488 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,546 POINTS. 489 00:13:01,549 --> 00:13:02,480 ALSO, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, 490 00:13:02,483 --> 00:13:07,819 OKAY, HAVE THEY BEEN PAID? 491 00:13:07,822 --> 00:13:08,553 I HAVE YET TO SEE A POLL 492 00:13:08,556 --> 00:13:10,288 RELEASED WHERE IT WASN'T GOOD 493 00:13:10,291 --> 00:13:10,988 FOR THEIR CLIENT IF THEY WEREN'T 494 00:13:10,991 --> 00:13:13,658 PAID BY THEM. 495 00:13:13,661 --> 00:13:15,526 YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR FOLKS THAT 496 00:13:15,529 --> 00:13:16,260 DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT 497 00:13:16,263 --> 00:13:17,495 BECAUSE THEY'RE TRULY LOOKING AT 498 00:13:17,498 --> 00:13:19,163 THE RACE COMPARED TO SOMEONE 499 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:21,699 THAT SAYS I'LL PAY X AMOUNT OF 500 00:13:21,702 --> 00:13:23,401 DOLLARS TO DO A POLL. 501 00:13:23,404 --> 00:13:25,069 YOU KNOW, THE CHANCES -- YOU CAN 502 00:13:25,072 --> 00:13:26,671 PUSH SOMEONE ANY WAY YOU WOULD 503 00:13:26,674 --> 00:13:29,440 LIKE, AND IT'S JUST HOW DO YOU 504 00:13:29,443 --> 00:13:29,741 DO IN AN UNBIASSED MANNER, I 505 00:13:29,744 --> 00:13:32,477 GUESS. 506 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,478 THAT'S REALLY THE TRICK. 507 00:13:33,481 --> 00:13:34,979 I THINK THAT'S THE THING YOU 508 00:13:34,982 --> 00:13:36,047 HAVE TO LOOK AT. 509 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:36,547 IS THERE PERSONAL INTEREST 510 00:13:36,550 --> 00:13:37,715 INVOLVED? 511 00:13:37,718 --> 00:13:40,284 I THINK THAT COULD BE -- THAT'S 512 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:40,618 WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE SOME OF THE 513 00:13:40,621 --> 00:13:41,352 ISSUES. 514 00:13:41,355 --> 00:13:42,153 >> ONE THING WE HEAR IS TWO WHO 515 00:13:42,156 --> 00:13:43,254 HAS TIME FOR POLLS? 516 00:13:43,257 --> 00:13:44,188 WHO ALREADY ARE THESE PEOPLE 517 00:13:44,191 --> 00:13:46,491 YOU'RE CALLING? 518 00:13:46,494 --> 00:13:47,525 >> THAT IS THE OTHER CHALLENGE 519 00:13:47,528 --> 00:13:48,693 THAT WE'VE BEEN FIND AND THAT 520 00:13:48,696 --> 00:13:50,628 WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO ADAPT. 521 00:13:50,631 --> 00:13:51,863 THE OLDER GENERATION IS MORE 522 00:13:51,866 --> 00:13:54,399 USED TO IT. 523 00:13:54,402 --> 00:13:56,200 ALSO, THE YOUNGER GENERATION IS 524 00:13:56,203 --> 00:13:58,970 NOT AND ALSO WITH THE CONVERSION 525 00:13:58,973 --> 00:13:59,370 OF HOW FOLKS GET THEIR 526 00:13:59,373 --> 00:14:00,872 INFORMATION. 527 00:14:00,875 --> 00:14:01,939 BEFORE EVERYONE HAD A LAND LINE. 528 00:14:01,942 --> 00:14:03,474 NOW IT'S VERY FEW. 529 00:14:03,477 --> 00:14:05,276 IT'S TOUGH TO FIND ANYBODY 530 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:06,444 UNDER, I WOULD SAY, 30 THAT HAS 531 00:14:06,447 --> 00:14:07,912 A LAND LINE. 532 00:14:07,915 --> 00:14:10,548 YOU KNOW, YOU ARE SEEING MORE OF 533 00:14:10,551 --> 00:14:11,616 A MIXTURE OF LEANING TOWARDS 534 00:14:11,619 --> 00:14:14,185 CELL PHONES COMPARED TO 535 00:14:14,188 --> 00:14:15,787 AUTOMATED, AND THEN ALSO ON-LINE 536 00:14:15,790 --> 00:14:17,522 SURVEYS, WHICH ARE STILL WORKING 537 00:14:17,525 --> 00:14:19,524 ON PERFECTING. 538 00:14:19,527 --> 00:14:20,158 YOU'RE SEEING DEFINITELY A TREND 539 00:14:20,161 --> 00:14:23,861 OF THAT. 540 00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:24,962 FOLKS JUST AREN'T AS ENGAGED, I 541 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:26,764 THINK, IS WHAT THEY PROBABLY 542 00:14:26,767 --> 00:14:27,565 WERE 20, 30 YEARS AGO. 543 00:14:27,568 --> 00:14:29,067 >> ARE YOU TAILORING YOUR PHONE 544 00:14:29,070 --> 00:14:29,734 CALLS AT A CERTAIN TIME BECAUSE 545 00:14:29,737 --> 00:14:30,435 OF PEOPLE'S WORK? 546 00:14:30,438 --> 00:14:31,669 >> YEAH. 547 00:14:31,672 --> 00:14:33,871 TYPICALLY I WOULD SAY WE USUALLY 548 00:14:33,874 --> 00:14:35,206 WOULD GO IN THE EVENING. 549 00:14:35,209 --> 00:14:36,574 YOU TYPICALLY STAY AWAY FROM 550 00:14:36,577 --> 00:14:39,043 FRIDAY NIGHTS, THOUGH. 551 00:14:39,046 --> 00:14:39,977 YOU TYPICALLY -- YOU ALWAYS SEE 552 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:40,345 LOWER RESPONSE TIMES ON 553 00:14:40,348 --> 00:14:41,612 WEEKENDS. 554 00:14:41,615 --> 00:14:43,348 PEOPLE ARE OUT AND ABOUT. 555 00:14:43,351 --> 00:14:44,315 THEY COULD BE RUNNING ERRANDS, 556 00:14:44,318 --> 00:14:46,050 DON'T HAVE TIME. 557 00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:47,952 USUALLY EVENING HOURS IS BEST. 558 00:14:47,955 --> 00:14:49,253 POLLSTERS, YEAH, THEY GET A BAD 559 00:14:49,256 --> 00:14:51,389 RAP, BUT IT'S BEING ABLE TO 560 00:14:51,392 --> 00:14:53,725 FIGURE OUT, ONE, DO THEY -- IS 561 00:14:53,728 --> 00:14:55,960 THERE A MOTIVATION BEHIND IT? 562 00:14:55,963 --> 00:14:57,195 I HAVE YET -- ONE DAY -- I'LL 563 00:14:57,198 --> 00:14:59,831 GIVE YOU A PRIME EXAMPLE. 564 00:14:59,834 --> 00:15:00,531 I RELEASED A POLL IN ARIZONA'S 565 00:15:00,534 --> 00:15:02,300 FIFTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 566 00:15:02,303 --> 00:15:03,368 HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 567 00:15:03,371 --> 00:15:04,569 FOUR FOLKS IN THE RACE. 568 00:15:04,572 --> 00:15:07,271 WELL, ONLY ONE CAN BE NUMBER ONE 569 00:15:07,274 --> 00:15:09,574 IN THAT POLL, RIGHT? 570 00:15:09,577 --> 00:15:11,275 THE THREE THAT WEREN'T NUMBER 571 00:15:11,278 --> 00:15:12,944 ONE IN THE POLL ALL SAID MY 572 00:15:12,947 --> 00:15:13,945 NUMBERS ARE BAD, THE POLL IS 573 00:15:13,948 --> 00:15:16,147 INACCURATE. 574 00:15:16,150 --> 00:15:17,215 YOU KNOW, IT'S A BAD POLL. 575 00:15:17,218 --> 00:15:18,816 POKING HOLES IN IT. 576 00:15:18,819 --> 00:15:21,052 THEN, YOU KNOW, A MONTH LATER I 577 00:15:21,055 --> 00:15:22,120 POLL, AND THEN THE PERSON THAT 578 00:15:22,123 --> 00:15:24,389 WAS IN LAST IS ALL OF A SUDDEN 579 00:15:24,392 --> 00:15:25,923 IN FIRST, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN 580 00:15:25,926 --> 00:15:27,825 THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH 581 00:15:27,828 --> 00:15:28,693 THE NUMBERS. 582 00:15:28,696 --> 00:15:31,162 IT'S INTERESTING THAT I HAVE YET 583 00:15:31,165 --> 00:15:32,163 TO SEE THE DAY WHEN I RELEASE A 584 00:15:32,166 --> 00:15:34,165 POLL THAT IS BAD FOR SOMEONE AND 585 00:15:34,168 --> 00:15:36,367 THEY SAY, HEY, THAT GUY WAS 586 00:15:36,370 --> 00:15:36,934 RIGHT ON OR THAT WAS A GREAT 587 00:15:36,937 --> 00:15:37,735 POLL. 588 00:15:37,738 --> 00:15:40,038 VICE VERSA. 589 00:15:40,041 --> 00:15:40,872 IT'S JUST -- I THINK IT'S THE 590 00:15:40,875 --> 00:15:42,607 NATURE OF POLITICS THAT YOU'LL 591 00:15:42,610 --> 00:15:43,641 GET A LOT OF FOLKS THAT POKE 592 00:15:43,644 --> 00:15:47,412 HOLES, AND I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE 593 00:15:47,415 --> 00:15:48,246 TO BASE IT ON IS THAT YOUR 594 00:15:48,249 --> 00:15:50,615 REPUTATION AND RECORD. 595 00:15:50,618 --> 00:15:53,718 I THINK FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL 596 00:15:53,721 --> 00:15:54,786 PRIMARY, I WAS THE CLOSEST IN 597 00:15:54,789 --> 00:15:55,386 ARIZONA OUT OF EVERYONE, AND ONE 598 00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:57,622 FOR ONE ON PRESIDENTIAL 599 00:15:57,625 --> 00:15:59,057 PRIMARIES RIGHT NOW. 600 00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:00,858 >>> GOING BACK NOW TO OUR 601 00:16:00,861 --> 00:16:03,394 CONVERSATION WITH THREE OF 602 00:16:03,397 --> 00:16:03,795 ARIZONA'S TOP POLITICAL 603 00:16:03,798 --> 00:16:07,832 STRATEGISTS. 604 00:16:07,835 --> 00:16:10,335 MATT AND JASON FROM VERITUS LLC 605 00:16:10,338 --> 00:16:10,668 AND SEAN NOBLE FROM AXIOM PUBLIC 606 00:16:10,671 --> 00:16:12,270 AFFAIRS. 607 00:16:12,273 --> 00:16:13,504 THESE NOMINEES, THEY SAY, ARE 608 00:16:13,507 --> 00:16:16,207 CHALLENGING EACH PARTY. 609 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:17,909 >> THERE'S A WIDE ARRAY OF 610 00:16:17,912 --> 00:16:21,012 CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS, PEOPLE 611 00:16:21,015 --> 00:16:22,080 WHO WOULD COUNT THEMSELVES AS 612 00:16:22,083 --> 00:16:22,647 CONSERVATIVES FIRST AND 613 00:16:22,650 --> 00:16:25,316 REPUBLICANS SECOND. 614 00:16:25,319 --> 00:16:26,150 THEY SAY, LOOK, THIS GUY WILL 615 00:16:26,153 --> 00:16:27,251 DESTROY WHAT WE'VE SPENT A 616 00:16:27,254 --> 00:16:29,987 LIFETIME TRYING TO BUILD AND 617 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:30,688 PROTECT, AND THAT IS THE 618 00:16:30,691 --> 00:16:32,423 CONSERVATIVE PHILOSOPHY ABOUT 619 00:16:32,426 --> 00:16:33,791 THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT. 620 00:16:33,794 --> 00:16:34,926 HE IS THE OPPOSITE OF THAT IN 621 00:16:34,929 --> 00:16:36,427 ALMOST EVERY WAY. 622 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:38,663 IF HE GETS ELECTED, THAT'S GOING 623 00:16:38,666 --> 00:16:39,397 TO COMPLETELY RESHAPE WHAT THE 624 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,131 CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE 625 00:16:40,134 --> 00:16:41,632 REPUBLICAN PARTY LOOKS LIKE. 626 00:16:41,635 --> 00:16:43,201 I THINK IF HE LOSES, WHICH HE 627 00:16:43,204 --> 00:16:45,103 LIKELY WILL, THERE IS A CHANCE 628 00:16:45,106 --> 00:16:45,703 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL SAY, 629 00:16:45,706 --> 00:16:47,171 OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE. 630 00:16:47,174 --> 00:16:48,139 WE DID THE LITTLE EXPERIMENT. 631 00:16:48,142 --> 00:16:50,274 IT CLEARLY DOESN'T WORK. 632 00:16:50,277 --> 00:16:51,876 LET'S GET BACK TO NORMAL AND TRY 633 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:55,380 TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE 634 00:16:55,383 --> 00:16:57,115 NEED TO DO SO THAT WE CAN MOUNT 635 00:16:57,118 --> 00:16:58,383 A CANDIDATE AGAINST AN INCUMBENT 636 00:16:58,386 --> 00:16:59,217 HILLARY CLINTON IN 2020 AND TAKE 637 00:16:59,220 --> 00:17:00,785 BACK THE PRESIDENCY. 638 00:17:00,788 --> 00:17:01,519 >> MATT, WHO IS THE BEST 639 00:17:01,522 --> 00:17:05,256 CANDIDATE FOR ARIZONA WHEN IT 640 00:17:05,259 --> 00:17:06,824 COMES TO THE ECONOMY, EDUCATION, 641 00:17:06,827 --> 00:17:07,892 CROSS-BORDER RELATIONS? 642 00:17:07,895 --> 00:17:10,695 WHO IS THE BEST CANDIDATE? 643 00:17:10,698 --> 00:17:11,062 >> AMONG THOSE RUNNING FOR 644 00:17:11,065 --> 00:17:11,596 PRESIDENT? 645 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:11,896 >> WOW. 646 00:17:11,899 --> 00:17:14,165 OKAY. 647 00:17:14,168 --> 00:17:16,567 >> GARY JOHNSON. 648 00:17:16,570 --> 00:17:19,504 I MEAN, HE SAY LIBERTARIAN. 649 00:17:19,507 --> 00:17:20,471 GARY JOHNSON WAS THE GOVERNOR OF 650 00:17:20,474 --> 00:17:21,105 NEW MEXICO, UNDERSTANDS OUR PART 651 00:17:21,108 --> 00:17:24,008 OF THE WORLD. 652 00:17:24,011 --> 00:17:24,742 HIS RUNNING MATE, BILL WELLS, HE 653 00:17:24,745 --> 00:17:25,743 WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL GOVERNOR 654 00:17:25,746 --> 00:17:26,711 IN MASSACHUSETTS. 655 00:17:26,714 --> 00:17:27,812 BOTH REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS. 656 00:17:27,815 --> 00:17:28,746 NOW THEY'RE RUNNING IN THE 657 00:17:28,749 --> 00:17:30,948 LIBERTARIAN TICKETS. 658 00:17:30,951 --> 00:17:32,083 FRANKLY, THEY ARE BY FAR, BY FAR 659 00:17:32,086 --> 00:17:33,551 MORE SUPERIOR IN THE KIND OF 660 00:17:33,554 --> 00:17:35,386 GOVERNMENT THAT THEY WOULD RUN 661 00:17:35,389 --> 00:17:36,921 AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO FOR THE 662 00:17:36,924 --> 00:17:38,690 COUNTRY THAN EITHER THE CLINTON 663 00:17:38,693 --> 00:17:39,157 ADMINISTRATION OR TRUMP 664 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:39,857 ADMINISTRATION. 665 00:17:39,860 --> 00:17:41,092 THEY HAVE NO HOPE OF WINNING. 666 00:17:41,095 --> 00:17:41,859 >> YEAH. 667 00:17:41,862 --> 00:17:43,127 THEY ARE SERIOUS CANDIDATES. 668 00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:45,096 UNFORTUNATELY, IF THEY CAN'T HIT 669 00:17:45,099 --> 00:17:47,799 THE 15% THRESHOLD, THEY CAN'T 670 00:17:47,802 --> 00:17:50,234 EVEN GET ON THE STAGE FOR THE 671 00:17:50,237 --> 00:17:52,303 DEBATES, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, 672 00:17:52,306 --> 00:17:53,638 WHEN MOST AMERICANS ARE TUNING 673 00:17:53,641 --> 00:17:55,907 IN. 674 00:17:55,910 --> 00:17:59,010 YEAH, IT'S A SAD PLACE TO BE FOR 675 00:17:59,013 --> 00:17:59,644 THOSE OF US WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE 676 00:17:59,647 --> 00:18:01,346 RIGHT OR CENTER RIGHT. 677 00:18:01,349 --> 00:18:02,146 >> I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT 678 00:18:02,149 --> 00:18:03,948 CONCERNING OR AT LEAST I WOULD 679 00:18:03,951 --> 00:18:06,417 BE CONCERNED FROM THE REPUBLICAN 680 00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:07,719 STANDPOINT IN THAT, ONE, THE 681 00:18:07,722 --> 00:18:10,788 CANDIDATE WHO DID -- DOES HAVE 682 00:18:10,791 --> 00:18:13,358 OUR PARTY'S NOMINATION, ONE, 683 00:18:13,361 --> 00:18:15,860 THEY STAND UP ON THE STAGE AT 684 00:18:15,863 --> 00:18:16,594 THEIR CONVENTION, AND, TWO, 685 00:18:16,597 --> 00:18:17,462 THERE'S ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY 686 00:18:17,465 --> 00:18:19,797 OUT THERE THAT SEEMS TO BE MORE 687 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,900 IN LINE WITH WHAT WE FEEL ARE 688 00:18:22,903 --> 00:18:23,634 OUR IDEALS, AND I THINK THERE'S 689 00:18:23,637 --> 00:18:24,869 SOMETHING TELLING THAT THERE'S 690 00:18:24,872 --> 00:18:26,270 BEEN A DISCONNECT IN KIND OF 691 00:18:26,273 --> 00:18:27,739 FROM THE TOP -- FROM THE 692 00:18:27,742 --> 00:18:29,240 TREETOPS TO THE GRASSROOTS IN 693 00:18:29,243 --> 00:18:31,342 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND THAT 694 00:18:31,345 --> 00:18:32,877 IS HOW YOU ENDED UP WITH TRUMP 695 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,478 COMING UP TO POWER AND GAINING 696 00:18:33,481 --> 00:18:36,214 THAT NOMINATION. 697 00:18:36,217 --> 00:18:37,615 >> I THINK -- I MEAN, I HAVE -- 698 00:18:37,618 --> 00:18:38,816 I KNOW THAT IT'S A STANDARD 699 00:18:38,819 --> 00:18:41,185 TALKING POINT WITH THE 700 00:18:41,188 --> 00:18:43,254 DEMOCRATS, NO OFFENSE, BUT THAT 701 00:18:43,257 --> 00:18:44,956 YOU GUYS CREATED TRUMP. 702 00:18:44,959 --> 00:18:46,791 HE IS YOUR -- I BELIEVE IT WAS 703 00:18:46,794 --> 00:18:48,660 OBAMA THAT CREATED TRUMP. 704 00:18:48,663 --> 00:18:52,864 OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE AND 705 00:18:52,867 --> 00:18:53,831 IMMEDIATELY DECIDED HE HAD A 706 00:18:53,834 --> 00:18:54,132 DEMOCRATIC SENATE AND DEMOCRATIC 707 00:18:54,135 --> 00:18:54,999 HOUSE. 708 00:18:55,002 --> 00:18:56,768 HE IMMEDIATELY DECIDED HE WAS 709 00:18:56,771 --> 00:18:57,402 GOING TO DO THINGS VERY 710 00:18:57,405 --> 00:18:58,936 DIFFERENTLY THAN PREVIOUS 711 00:18:58,939 --> 00:19:00,304 PRESIDENTS WHERE, WHEN REAGAN 712 00:19:00,307 --> 00:19:01,773 HAD A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE AND 713 00:19:01,776 --> 00:19:03,741 SENATE, HE WORKED CLOSELY WITH 714 00:19:03,744 --> 00:19:04,776 TIP O'NEIL TO BROKER COMPROMISE 715 00:19:04,779 --> 00:19:06,310 AND GET THINGS DONE. 716 00:19:06,313 --> 00:19:08,079 OBAMA DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO 717 00:19:08,082 --> 00:19:09,313 CRAM THROUGH A STIMULUS PACKAGE, 718 00:19:09,316 --> 00:19:10,948 HE WAS GOING TO CRAM THROUGH 719 00:19:10,951 --> 00:19:12,116 HEALTH CARE REFORM, AND HE DID 720 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:12,650 THOSE THINGS WITHOUT ANY 721 00:19:12,653 --> 00:19:14,018 REPUBLICAN SUPPORT. 722 00:19:14,021 --> 00:19:15,153 I MEAN, HE DECIDED HE WAS NOT 723 00:19:15,156 --> 00:19:16,788 GOING TO SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE. 724 00:19:16,791 --> 00:19:19,824 HE WAS GOING TO DO IT HIS WAY 725 00:19:19,827 --> 00:19:20,992 AND NO OTHER WAY, AND IT COST 726 00:19:20,995 --> 00:19:22,694 THE DEMOCRATS THE MAJORITY, AND 727 00:19:22,697 --> 00:19:27,565 THE HOUSE AND SENATE IN -- OR 728 00:19:27,568 --> 00:19:29,067 THE HOUSE IN 2010 AND SO HE HAS 729 00:19:29,070 --> 00:19:30,968 CREATED AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE 730 00:19:30,971 --> 00:19:31,769 EVERYONE FEELS LIKE NOTHING IS 731 00:19:31,772 --> 00:19:34,806 GETTING DONE. 732 00:19:34,809 --> 00:19:38,910 THIS HOSTILE NATURE. 733 00:19:38,913 --> 00:19:40,745 I THINK IN MANY WAYS OBAMA IN 734 00:19:40,748 --> 00:19:43,247 2009-2010 WAS THE BEGINNING OF 735 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:43,715 WHAT BECAME THE PHENOMENON OF 736 00:19:43,718 --> 00:19:45,183 TRUMP'S SUPPORT. 737 00:19:45,186 --> 00:19:47,285 >> THE OTHER THING THAT WAS 738 00:19:47,288 --> 00:19:49,020 CREATED IS THE RISE OF THE -- I 739 00:19:49,023 --> 00:19:49,554 WOULDN'T EVEN CALL IT 740 00:19:49,557 --> 00:19:51,789 CONSERVATIVE MEDIA. 741 00:19:51,792 --> 00:19:55,760 I WOULD -- IT'S THE FRINGE. 742 00:19:55,763 --> 00:19:56,127 IT'S THE SEAN HANNITY, RUSH 743 00:19:56,130 --> 00:19:58,463 LIMBAUGH. 744 00:19:58,466 --> 00:20:00,031 IT'S THE ENTERTAINMENT WING OF 745 00:20:00,034 --> 00:20:03,234 THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA WHICH HAS 746 00:20:03,237 --> 00:20:05,536 CREATED AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF 747 00:20:05,539 --> 00:20:06,404 VOTERS WHO BELIEVE THAT 748 00:20:06,407 --> 00:20:09,374 CONSERVATIVES IN CONGRESS ARE 749 00:20:09,377 --> 00:20:10,942 ALL SELL-OUTS, WHO BELIEVE THAT 750 00:20:10,945 --> 00:20:13,077 IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT A 751 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,280 DEMOCRAT IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. 752 00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:19,350 THEY SHOULD SOMEHOW FORCE HIM TO 753 00:20:19,353 --> 00:20:21,819 SIGN LEGISLATION UNDOING HIS 754 00:20:21,822 --> 00:20:22,453 LANDMARK ACHIEVEMENT WITH OBAMA 755 00:20:22,456 --> 00:20:24,255 CARE. 756 00:20:24,258 --> 00:20:25,056 >> NOT ONLY THAT. 757 00:20:25,059 --> 00:20:26,257 THEY BOTH BELIEVE THEY SHOULD 758 00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:27,025 FORCE HIM TO DO IT, BUT THEY 759 00:20:27,028 --> 00:20:28,159 DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND IT. 760 00:20:28,162 --> 00:20:29,460 YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THE BILL TO 761 00:20:29,463 --> 00:20:30,328 HIM BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE 60 762 00:20:30,331 --> 00:20:32,130 VOTES IN THE SENATE. 763 00:20:32,133 --> 00:20:34,832 THEY'RE NOT SMART ENOUGH -- THIS 764 00:20:34,835 --> 00:20:36,334 IS WHERE I FAULT TED CRUZ WHO 765 00:20:36,337 --> 00:20:37,669 NEVER MADE THE POINT, WELL, WE 766 00:20:37,672 --> 00:20:39,337 CAN'T GET IT THROUGH THE SENATE 767 00:20:39,340 --> 00:20:42,240 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE 60 VOTES. 768 00:20:42,243 --> 00:20:43,174 PEOPLE JUST SAY, WOW, YOU HAVE 769 00:20:43,177 --> 00:20:45,376 55 REPUBLICAN SENATORS. 770 00:20:45,379 --> 00:20:48,079 WHY DON'T YOU REPEAL OBAMA CARE? 771 00:20:48,082 --> 00:20:48,713 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE 772 00:20:48,716 --> 00:20:50,848 PROCESS. 773 00:20:50,851 --> 00:20:52,984 IT IS -- THE RUSH LIMBAUGHS AND 774 00:20:52,987 --> 00:20:56,587 THE SEAN HANNITY'S OF THE WORLD 775 00:20:56,590 --> 00:20:59,390 HAVE CREATED A SITUATION WHERE 776 00:20:59,393 --> 00:21:00,491 WE TAKE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T AS 777 00:21:00,494 --> 00:21:03,861 KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE PUBLIC 778 00:21:03,864 --> 00:21:04,862 POLICY PROCESS AND FEED THEM 779 00:21:04,865 --> 00:21:05,830 STUFF THAT SETS EXPECTATION THAT 780 00:21:05,833 --> 00:21:06,964 IS ARE COMPLETELY UNATTAINABLE 781 00:21:06,967 --> 00:21:07,465 BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE 782 00:21:07,468 --> 00:21:09,067 PROCESS WORKS. 783 00:21:09,070 --> 00:21:11,436 >> WHICH IS, AS YOU SAID, MAYBE 784 00:21:11,439 --> 00:21:12,837 WHAT HAPPENED EIGHT YEARS AGO. 785 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,137 >> I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS 786 00:21:13,140 --> 00:21:14,672 THAT. 787 00:21:14,675 --> 00:21:14,972 I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY 788 00:21:14,975 --> 00:21:17,775 OBAMA. 789 00:21:17,778 --> 00:21:19,077 I WOULDN'T PUT EVERYTHING IN HIS 790 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,844 COURT THAT HAS CREATED THIS 791 00:21:19,847 --> 00:21:20,845 SITUATION, BUT WHAT HAS 792 00:21:20,848 --> 00:21:22,980 OCCURRED, AND I THINK IT'S ON 793 00:21:22,983 --> 00:21:24,582 BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, IS A 794 00:21:24,585 --> 00:21:26,551 DUMBING DOWN OF THE AMERICAN 795 00:21:26,554 --> 00:21:28,419 POLITICAL SYSTEM AND HOW IT 796 00:21:28,422 --> 00:21:31,422 WORKS AND HOW WE ADDRESS IT. 797 00:21:31,425 --> 00:21:32,357 THE MERE FACT THAT WHEN 798 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:34,025 SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS OR IT'S 799 00:21:34,028 --> 00:21:35,226 SOMETHING WE DON'T AGREE WITH 800 00:21:35,229 --> 00:21:36,961 THAT'S PROPOSED, RATHER THAN 801 00:21:36,964 --> 00:21:38,663 ENGAGE IN A POLICY DISCUSSION, 802 00:21:38,666 --> 00:21:39,964 WE KIND OF THROW BOMBS OUT THERE 803 00:21:39,967 --> 00:21:41,799 AND LIKE TO YELL AND SCREAM AT 804 00:21:41,802 --> 00:21:43,668 EACH OTHER, AND THAT HAS CREATED 805 00:21:43,671 --> 00:21:45,803 A SITUATION WHERE AMERICA AND 806 00:21:45,806 --> 00:21:47,372 AMERICANS AREN'T ENGAGING OR 807 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:48,139 EDUCATING OURSELVES IN THE 808 00:21:48,142 --> 00:21:48,940 ISSUES THAT OUR COUNTRY HAS TO 809 00:21:48,943 --> 00:21:50,108 FACE EVERY DAY. 810 00:21:50,111 --> 00:21:52,410 >> WHAT DOES IT SAY, THOUGH, 811 00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:53,144 THAT ALL THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN 812 00:21:53,147 --> 00:21:55,113 HAPPENING, AND DONALD TRUMP HAS 813 00:21:55,116 --> 00:21:56,614 BEEN VERY POPULAR WITH THE 814 00:21:56,617 --> 00:21:57,849 AMERICAN PUBLIC? 815 00:21:57,852 --> 00:22:00,151 AS WE HEARD -- 816 00:22:00,154 --> 00:22:00,885 >> I DON'T THINK HE HAS BEEN 817 00:22:00,888 --> 00:22:01,219 VERY POPULAR AMONG THE AMERICAN 818 00:22:01,222 --> 00:22:02,787 PUBLIC. 819 00:22:02,790 --> 00:22:05,223 HE HAS BEEN POPULAR AMONG JUST 820 00:22:05,226 --> 00:22:05,556 OVER HALF THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY 821 00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:07,592 VOTERS. 822 00:22:07,595 --> 00:22:07,925 EVEN POLLING NOW, HE IS NOT 823 00:22:07,928 --> 00:22:10,862 POPULAR. 824 00:22:10,865 --> 00:22:11,596 HE IS THE LEAST POPULAR 825 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:12,764 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE I THINK 826 00:22:12,767 --> 00:22:13,998 WE'VE SEEN IN A LONG, LONG TIME. 827 00:22:14,001 --> 00:22:16,801 >> AND THE ONLY ONE THAT COMES 828 00:22:16,804 --> 00:22:17,869 CLOSE TO HIM IN UNPOPULARITY IS 829 00:22:17,872 --> 00:22:19,871 HILLARY CLINTON. 830 00:22:19,874 --> 00:22:21,339 IF SHE WINS -- IF EITHER OF THEM 831 00:22:21,342 --> 00:22:23,041 WIN, WHICHEVER ONE WINS GOES 832 00:22:23,044 --> 00:22:24,308 INTO THE WHITE HOUSE WITH THE 833 00:22:24,311 --> 00:22:26,644 LOWEST FAVORABLE RATING IN THE 834 00:22:26,647 --> 00:22:28,279 HISTORY OF OUR NATION AS A 835 00:22:28,282 --> 00:22:28,780 PRESIDENT WALKING INTO THE OVAL 836 00:22:28,783 --> 00:22:32,150 OFFICE ON DAY ONE. 837 00:22:32,153 --> 00:22:33,084 >> WHAT HAPPENS IN NOVEMBER? 838 00:22:33,087 --> 00:22:34,419 >> HILLARY CLINTON WINS, AND SHE 839 00:22:34,422 --> 00:22:35,653 WINS BY A WIDE MARGIN. 840 00:22:35,656 --> 00:22:37,388 I MEAN, THE POLLING THAT WE'RE 841 00:22:37,391 --> 00:22:39,190 SEEING JUST OUT TODAY SHOWS 842 00:22:39,193 --> 00:22:41,826 SHE'S UP 15 POINTS IN VIRGINIA. 843 00:22:41,829 --> 00:22:44,095 SHE'S UP DOUBLE DIGITS IN 844 00:22:44,098 --> 00:22:44,462 PENNSYLVANIA, MICHIGAN, 845 00:22:44,465 --> 00:22:45,563 COLORADO. 846 00:22:45,566 --> 00:22:46,998 THE ONLY SO-CALLED SWING STATES 847 00:22:47,001 --> 00:22:48,566 THAT ARE REALLY TRULY CLOSE AT 848 00:22:48,569 --> 00:22:52,036 THIS POINT ARE FLORIDA AND OHIO. 849 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:52,437 SHE IS PUSHING, YOU KNOW -- 850 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,871 >> AND IOWA. 851 00:22:53,874 --> 00:22:56,374 >> SHE'S PUSHLING IN THE STATES 852 00:22:56,377 --> 00:22:58,476 LIKE ARIZONA, UTAH, GEORGIA. 853 00:22:58,479 --> 00:22:59,944 THE NUMBERS -- THE TREND LINE, 854 00:22:59,947 --> 00:23:01,346 IT'S STILL EARLY. 855 00:23:01,349 --> 00:23:02,780 I MEAN, WE'RE ALMOST THREE 856 00:23:02,783 --> 00:23:04,349 MONTHS OUT, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE 857 00:23:04,352 --> 00:23:04,782 LOOKING TREMENDOUSLY BAD FOR 858 00:23:04,785 --> 00:23:06,017 DONALD TRUMP. 859 00:23:06,020 --> 00:23:07,652 >> THE HARD PART FOR THE HILLARY 860 00:23:07,655 --> 00:23:09,253 CAMPAIGN RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO 861 00:23:09,256 --> 00:23:10,455 BE KEEPING VOTERS ENGAGED AND 862 00:23:10,458 --> 00:23:11,356 KEEPING THIS STILL A STORY 863 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,558 BECAUSE COME NOVEMBER THEY'RE 864 00:23:13,561 --> 00:23:14,759 GOING TO HAVE -- RUN THE PROBLEM 865 00:23:14,762 --> 00:23:16,361 WITH PEOPLE NOT CARING ANYMORE, 866 00:23:16,364 --> 00:23:18,896 AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE 867 00:23:18,899 --> 00:23:19,197 NEEDING PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND 868 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:19,931 VOTE. 869 00:23:19,934 --> 00:23:21,199 IF THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE 870 00:23:21,202 --> 00:23:22,166 TO SHOW UP AND VOTE AFTER THREE 871 00:23:22,169 --> 00:23:23,101 MONTHS OF HEARING HILLARY IS 872 00:23:23,104 --> 00:23:23,501 GOING TO WIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE 873 00:23:23,504 --> 00:23:25,636 A PROBLEM. 874 00:23:25,639 --> 00:23:26,371 THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP 875 00:23:26,374 --> 00:23:27,105 THOSE VOTERS ENGAGED AND WILLING 876 00:23:27,108 --> 00:23:29,340 TO TURN OUT IN NOVEMBER. 877 00:23:29,343 --> 00:23:30,274 >> I THINK HILLARY WINS. 878 00:23:30,277 --> 00:23:31,809 I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IN THE 879 00:23:31,812 --> 00:23:33,444 LONG-TERM IS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO 880 00:23:33,447 --> 00:23:35,446 BE SO DISGUSTED BY THIS ELECTION 881 00:23:35,449 --> 00:23:36,381 CYCLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 882 00:23:36,384 --> 00:23:37,615 HARD TIME GETTING PARTICIPATION 883 00:23:37,618 --> 00:23:38,649 RATES IN FUTURE ELECTIONS 884 00:23:38,652 --> 00:23:39,283 ANYWHERE CLOSE TO WHERE WE'VE 885 00:23:39,286 --> 00:23:42,520 BEEN HISTORICALLY. 886 00:23:42,523 --> 00:23:44,022 I THINK WE ARE TURNING PEOPLE 887 00:23:44,025 --> 00:23:45,790 OFF IN DROVES, AND, YOU KNOW, 888 00:23:45,793 --> 00:23:47,392 IT'S GOING TO BE BAD FOR 889 00:23:47,395 --> 00:23:48,960 DEMOCRACY, BAD FOR OUR SYSTEM, 890 00:23:48,963 --> 00:23:50,862 AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A DECADE 891 00:23:50,865 --> 00:23:52,463 OR MORE TO FIX. 892 00:23:52,466 --> 00:23:53,364 >> DONALD TRUMP IS AT THE TOP OF 893 00:23:53,367 --> 00:23:53,698 THE REPUBLICAN TICKET IN 894 00:23:53,701 --> 00:23:54,532 ARIZONA. 895 00:23:54,535 --> 00:23:56,034 HOW DOES THAT SHAKE OUT 896 00:23:56,037 --> 00:23:57,502 THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE RACES 897 00:23:57,505 --> 00:23:59,170 WE HAVE IN ARIZONA? 898 00:23:59,173 --> 00:23:59,470 >> WELL, ONE, IT DOESN'T LOOK 899 00:23:59,473 --> 00:24:00,772 GOOD. 900 00:24:00,775 --> 00:24:03,174 I MEAN, THERE'S A TRUMP EFFECT. 901 00:24:03,177 --> 00:24:03,908 IS THAT GOING TO TURN OFF THE 902 00:24:03,911 --> 00:24:05,109 REPUBLICAN VOTERS, AND IF THEY 903 00:24:05,112 --> 00:24:05,843 DON'T SHOW UP TO VOTE FOR 904 00:24:05,846 --> 00:24:07,779 PRESIDENT, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE 905 00:24:07,782 --> 00:24:11,215 A SEVERE IMPACT ON THE BALLOT. 906 00:24:11,218 --> 00:24:11,949 THE LAST ELECTION CYCLE IN 2014 907 00:24:11,952 --> 00:24:14,452 WE HAD A REPUBLICAN THAT WON BY 908 00:24:14,455 --> 00:24:16,287 LESS THAN 1,000 VOTERS IN SOME 909 00:24:16,290 --> 00:24:17,155 LEGISLATIVE VOTERS AND A 910 00:24:17,158 --> 00:24:18,523 CONGRESSWOMAN THAT WON BY LESS 911 00:24:18,526 --> 00:24:20,358 THAN 200 VOTERS. 912 00:24:20,361 --> 00:24:21,626 ANY DECREASE IN THE TURNOUT, THE 913 00:24:21,629 --> 00:24:21,959 REPUBLICANS COULD FEEL A LARGE 914 00:24:21,962 --> 00:24:23,361 IMPACT. 915 00:24:23,364 --> 00:24:24,929 HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE 916 00:24:24,932 --> 00:24:26,431 THAT AGAINST THE UNPOPULAR 917 00:24:26,434 --> 00:24:27,265 DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE THAT NOT A 918 00:24:27,268 --> 00:24:28,466 LOT OF DEMOCRATS MIGHT SHOW UP 919 00:24:28,469 --> 00:24:29,934 TO VOTE FOR. 920 00:24:29,937 --> 00:24:33,004 YOU KNOW, I WOULD AGREE THAT 921 00:24:33,007 --> 00:24:33,738 WE'RE JUST GO GOING TO HAVE A 922 00:24:33,741 --> 00:24:34,872 LOW TURNOUT, AND WHAT THAT MEANS 923 00:24:34,875 --> 00:24:35,740 AND HOW THAT AFFECTS IT, I CAN'T 924 00:24:35,743 --> 00:24:37,275 TELL AT THIS POINT. 925 00:24:37,278 --> 00:24:38,676 I THINK THERE'S A DANGER, BUT 926 00:24:38,679 --> 00:24:41,612 I'M NOT SEEING IT. 927 00:24:41,615 --> 00:24:42,413 IF WE HAVE THAT HISTORIC 928 00:24:42,416 --> 00:24:44,015 HISPANIC TURNOUT AND THE YOUTH 929 00:24:44,018 --> 00:24:44,382 SHOW UP, YEAH, THERE WILL BE A 930 00:24:44,385 --> 00:24:46,551 CHANGE. 931 00:24:46,554 --> 00:24:48,586 >> THERE GOES -- 932 00:24:48,589 --> 00:24:49,153 >> AND THE INDEPENDENTS TOO, 933 00:24:49,156 --> 00:24:51,689 RIGHT? 934 00:24:51,692 --> 00:24:53,524 >> I MEAN, SENATOR McCAIN IS 935 00:24:53,527 --> 00:24:53,858 GOING TO WIN RE-ELECTION PRETTY 936 00:24:53,861 --> 00:24:55,927 HANDILY. 937 00:24:55,930 --> 00:24:58,096 HIS RACE IS VERY INDICATIVE OF 938 00:24:58,099 --> 00:24:58,429 OTHER SENATE RACES ACROSS THE 939 00:24:58,432 --> 00:24:59,530 COUNTRY. 940 00:24:59,533 --> 00:25:00,732 THEY'RE OUT-POLLING TRUMP. 941 00:25:00,735 --> 00:25:01,032 THEY'RE GOING TO DO BETTER THAN 942 00:25:01,035 --> 00:25:02,000 TRUMP. 943 00:25:02,003 --> 00:25:03,201 IF TRUMP COLLAPSES, THEY'RE 944 00:25:03,204 --> 00:25:04,535 STILL GOING TO WIN. 945 00:25:04,538 --> 00:25:05,103 REPUBLICANS HOLD THE MAJORITY, 946 00:25:05,106 --> 00:25:05,803 YOU KNOW. 947 00:25:05,806 --> 00:25:09,007 McCAIN WINS. 948 00:25:09,010 --> 00:25:09,374 I THINK AYOTTE WINS IN NEW 949 00:25:09,377 --> 00:25:12,910 HAMPSHIRE. 950 00:25:12,913 --> 00:25:13,711 PORTLAND WINS IN IT OHIO. 951 00:25:13,714 --> 00:25:15,313 RUBIO WINS IN FLORIDA. 952 00:25:15,316 --> 00:25:17,548 THE ONLY ONE THAT I WOULD SAY -- 953 00:25:17,551 --> 00:25:19,017 THE TWO THAT ARE MOST AT RISK 954 00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:20,451 NATIONALLY IN THE SENATE ARE 955 00:25:20,454 --> 00:25:21,919 MARK KIRKLAND IN ILLINOIS AND 956 00:25:21,922 --> 00:25:23,421 RON JOHNSON IN WISCONSIN. 957 00:25:23,424 --> 00:25:24,122 EVEN RON JOHNSON HAS A CHANCE TO 958 00:25:24,125 --> 00:25:25,723 PULL THIS OFF. 959 00:25:25,726 --> 00:25:28,026 IT'S GOING TO BE -- YOU KNOW, 960 00:25:28,029 --> 00:25:29,227 TRUMP WILL NOT HAVE THE DRAG 961 00:25:29,230 --> 00:25:31,729 EFFECT THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN 962 00:25:31,732 --> 00:25:35,033 TRYING TO PINE FOR. 963 00:25:35,036 --> 00:25:36,868 REPUBLICANS WILL HOPE. 964 00:25:36,871 --> 00:25:37,669 >> WE ALL KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP 965 00:25:37,672 --> 00:25:40,972 HATES MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE TO 966 00:25:40,975 --> 00:25:41,706 BE A LOSER, AND HE HAS ALREADY 967 00:25:41,709 --> 00:25:43,074 BEEN FLOATING THIS NOTION THAT 968 00:25:43,077 --> 00:25:43,408 IF I LOSE, IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS 969 00:25:43,411 --> 00:25:45,009 RIGGED. 970 00:25:45,012 --> 00:25:47,011 THIS IS A RIGGED GAME. 971 00:25:47,014 --> 00:25:47,278 THE ELECTION IS -- THE FIX IS 972 00:25:47,281 --> 00:25:49,514 IN. 973 00:25:49,517 --> 00:25:50,815 IF HE SEES THE -- IF WE GET 974 00:25:50,818 --> 00:25:52,083 CLOSER TO ELECTION DAY -- 975 00:25:52,086 --> 00:25:53,251 REMEMBER, WE START VOTING HERE 976 00:25:53,254 --> 00:25:54,352 IN EARLY OCTOBER IN ARIZONA AND 977 00:25:54,355 --> 00:25:57,288 IN OTHER STATES. 978 00:25:57,291 --> 00:25:58,623 IF IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT THE 979 00:25:58,626 --> 00:26:02,827 THING IS OUT OF REACH, I WOULD 980 00:26:02,830 --> 00:26:05,630 BE CONCERNED -- I AM CONCERNED 981 00:26:05,633 --> 00:26:06,764 THAT HE DISSPIRITS REPUBLICAN 982 00:26:06,767 --> 00:26:08,032 VOTERS AND EVEN HIS OWN PEOPLE 983 00:26:08,035 --> 00:26:09,067 AND THE BASE TO A POINT THAT 984 00:26:09,070 --> 00:26:12,370 THEY DON'T TURN OUT, AND HE 985 00:26:12,373 --> 00:26:13,371 WOULD DO IT TO TRY TO SAVE FACE 986 00:26:13,374 --> 00:26:16,574 THAT THIS ELECTION THAT IS 987 00:26:16,577 --> 00:26:17,608 RIGGED AND WHAT NOT, NOT CARING. 988 00:26:17,611 --> 00:26:18,876 THAT IT'S GOING TO DAMAGE 989 00:26:18,879 --> 00:26:21,846 REPUBLICANS ALL UP AND DOWN THE 990 00:26:21,849 --> 00:26:22,213 TICKET IF THOSE VOTERS DON'T 991 00:26:22,216 --> 00:26:22,880 TURN OUT. 992 00:26:22,883 --> 00:26:24,982 LET'S FACE IT, DONALD TRUMP 993 00:26:24,985 --> 00:26:25,483 DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYBODY OTHER 994 00:26:25,486 --> 00:26:27,385 THAN DONALD TRUMP. 995 00:26:27,388 --> 00:26:30,621 >> I AGREE WITH THAT. 996 00:26:30,624 --> 00:26:32,824 I DON'T AGREE THAT IT WILL HAVE 997 00:26:32,827 --> 00:26:33,925 IMPACT THAT MUCH BECAUSE I THINK 998 00:26:33,928 --> 00:26:34,993 REPUBLICAN BASE VOTERS -- 999 00:26:34,996 --> 00:26:36,594 REPUBLICAN VOTERS ARE STILL 1000 00:26:36,597 --> 00:26:37,161 GOING TO GO VOTE FOR THEIR DOWN 1001 00:26:37,164 --> 00:26:39,063 BALLOT PEOPLE. 1002 00:26:39,066 --> 00:26:40,331 THEY MAY HEAR WHAT HE SAYS, BUT 1003 00:26:40,334 --> 00:26:41,532 I THINK -- I MEAN, THE TYPICAL 1004 00:26:41,535 --> 00:26:43,334 VOTER IS GOING TO LOOK AT THAT 1005 00:26:43,337 --> 00:26:43,735 AND SAY, ARE YOU FREAKING 1006 00:26:43,738 --> 00:26:44,936 KIDDING? 1007 00:26:44,939 --> 00:26:45,236 THEY WILL SAY THIS HAS BEEN A 1008 00:26:45,239 --> 00:26:47,205 HOAX. 1009 00:26:47,208 --> 00:26:48,139 THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND SAY 1010 00:26:48,142 --> 00:26:49,240 A REPUBLICAN VOTER AT THAT POINT 1011 00:26:49,243 --> 00:26:50,475 WILL SAY, WELL, WE'VE GOT TO 1012 00:26:50,478 --> 00:26:52,076 HAVE A CHECK ON HILLARY, SO I 1013 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:55,013 HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN 1014 00:26:55,016 --> 00:26:55,346 HOUSE MEMBER AND THE REPUBLICAN 1015 00:26:55,349 --> 00:26:58,783 SENATE. 1016 00:26:58,786 --> 00:26:59,617 >> COME 2020 DOES THIS 1017 00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:01,185 DIVISION -- 1018 00:27:01,188 --> 00:27:02,687 >> DEMOCRATS WILL BE STUCK WITH 1019 00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:04,555 CLINTON AND, YOU KNOW, IS SHE 1020 00:27:04,558 --> 00:27:04,922 GOING TO BE A ONE-TERM 1021 00:27:04,925 --> 00:27:05,223 PRESIDENT? 1022 00:27:05,226 --> 00:27:08,459 MAYBE. 1023 00:27:08,462 --> 00:27:09,193 >> THAT WILL BE DETERMINED BY AS 1024 00:27:09,196 --> 00:27:10,495 SOON AS SHE STEPS INTO THE WHITE 1025 00:27:10,498 --> 00:27:11,629 HOUSE WHAT SHE'S DOING AND HOW 1026 00:27:11,632 --> 00:27:13,064 THE PUBLIC RECEIVES THAT. 1027 00:27:13,067 --> 00:27:15,800 SHE'S GOING TO HAVE -- SHE'S GOT 1028 00:27:15,803 --> 00:27:16,701 THREE MONTHS NOW AND THEN 1029 00:27:16,704 --> 00:27:18,636 POTENTIALLY FOUR YEARS TO START 1030 00:27:18,639 --> 00:27:20,772 CHANGING THE PERCEPTION OF HER 1031 00:27:20,775 --> 00:27:22,273 AND WORKING ON HER FAVORABILITY 1032 00:27:22,276 --> 00:27:22,573 RATING, AND WE'VE SEEN SWINGS IN 1033 00:27:22,576 --> 00:27:23,875 THAT. 1034 00:27:23,878 --> 00:27:25,576 SHE DOES HAVE WORK TO DO. 1035 00:27:25,579 --> 00:27:26,911 >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PROGRAM. 1036 00:27:26,914 --> 00:27:27,845 PRIMARIES ARE TUESDAY, AUGUST 1037 00:27:27,848 --> 00:27:29,113 30th. 1038 00:27:29,116 --> 00:27:30,748 ELECTION RESULTS CAN BE FOUND ON 1039 00:27:30,751 --> 00:27:35,253 OUR WEBSITE THAT NIGHT AND INTO 1040 00:27:35,256 --> 00:27:36,921 THE NEXT DAY ON NPR 89.1. 1041 00:27:36,924 --> 00:27:37,255 PLUS, AN ANALYSIS ON NEXT WEEK'S 1042 00:27:37,258 --> 00:27:38,489 PROGRAM. 1043 00:27:38,492 --> 00:27:38,990 FOR ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC 1044 00:27:38,993 --> 00:27:41,459 MEDIA, I'M ELAINE.