WEBVTT 00:19.085 --> 00:20.018 align:start . 00:20.021 --> 00:22.487 align:start >>> THE U.S. SUPREME COURT 00:22.490 --> 00:23.821 align:start UPHELD A KEY PROVISION OF THE 00:23.824 --> 00:25.690 align:start AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 00:25.693 --> 00:28.626 align:start WITH DIRECT EFFECTS ON ARIZONA. 00:28.629 --> 00:29.527 align:start >> PRETTY CLOSE TO HALF A 00:29.530 --> 00:31.429 align:start MILLION PEOPLE IN ARIZONA ARE 00:31.432 --> 00:32.163 align:start GETTING COVERED IN SOME WAY BY 00:32.166 --> 00:34.198 align:start THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND 00:34.201 --> 00:35.967 align:start THOSE OVER 200,000 DON'T NEED TO 00:35.970 --> 00:39.604 align:start WORRY ABOUT THE PREMIUMS 00:39.607 --> 00:41.873 align:start SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL OR 00:41.876 --> 00:42.840 align:start SPIKING IN ANY WAY BECAUSE OF AN 00:42.843 --> 00:46.944 align:start ADVERSE RULING. 00:46.947 --> 00:47.478 align:start >> THE COURT ALSO UPHELD 00:47.481 --> 00:49.914 align:start SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. 00:49.917 --> 00:53.117 align:start >> WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK 00:53.120 --> 00:54.485 align:start TO REACH TRUE EEK QUALITY. 00:54.488 --> 00:57.288 align:start WOMEN STILL MAKE LESS THAN MAN. 00:57.291 --> 00:57.689 align:start WE STILL HAVE THE CHARLESTON 00:57.692 --> 00:59.090 align:start SITUATION. 00:59.093 --> 01:01.559 align:start >> ARIZONA STILL AWAITS A 01:01.562 --> 01:02.894 align:start DECISION ON HOW THE 01:02.897 --> 01:03.728 align:start CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS ARE 01:03.731 --> 01:11.636 align:start DRAWN. 01:15.008 --> 01:22.280 align:start ♪ 01:22.283 --> 01:22.747 align:start >>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO 01:22.750 --> 01:26.284 align:start "ARIZONA WEEK." 01:26.287 --> 01:27.018 align:start I'M CHRISTOPHER CON OVER IN FOR 01:27.021 --> 01:28.886 align:start LORRAINE RIVERA. 01:28.889 --> 01:31.823 align:start THE U.S. SUPREME COURT RULED ON 01:31.826 --> 01:32.690 align:start TWO MAJOR CASES THIS WEEK. 01:32.693 --> 01:33.324 align:start THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND 01:33.327 --> 01:35.159 align:start SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. 01:35.162 --> 01:35.693 align:start WE BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION ON THE 01:35.696 --> 01:37.829 align:start AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 01:37.832 --> 01:39.364 align:start THE COURT RULED THE SUBSIDIES 01:39.367 --> 01:41.799 align:start FOR FEDERAL INSURANCE MARKET 01:41.802 --> 01:43.368 align:start PLACES IN ARIZONA AND 33 OTHER 01:43.371 --> 01:45.770 align:start STATES ARE LEGAL. 01:45.773 --> 01:46.070 align:start WE HAVE TWO DIVERGING POINTS OF 01:46.073 --> 01:47.705 align:start VIEW. 01:47.708 --> 01:49.407 align:start FIRST JANE ORIENT WHO IS A 01:49.410 --> 01:50.775 align:start TUCSON PHYSICIAN AND THE 01:50.778 --> 01:53.478 align:start EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE 01:53.481 --> 01:54.245 align:start ASSOCIATION OF AMERICAN 01:54.248 --> 01:57.448 align:start PHYSICIANS AND SURGEON. 01:57.451 --> 01:57.815 align:start SHE OPPOSED THE AFFORDABLE CARE 01:57.818 --> 02:01.152 align:start ACT. 02:01.155 --> 02:02.553 align:start >> JANE, OBVIOUSLY NOT A FAN OF 02:02.556 --> 02:04.122 align:start THIS WEEK'S DECISION. 02:04.125 --> 02:06.157 align:start LET'S START WITH THE DECISION. 02:06.160 --> 02:08.960 align:start WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT? 02:08.963 --> 02:12.063 align:start >> THE MAIN THING THAT IS WRONG 02:12.066 --> 02:15.633 align:start WITH THE DECISION IS IT REPEALS 02:15.636 --> 02:17.502 align:start THE RULE OF THE LAW AND THE 02:17.505 --> 02:19.203 align:start SUPREME COURT IS SAYING THE LAW 02:19.206 --> 02:21.906 align:start DOESN'T MEAN WHAT IT SAYS, IT 02:21.909 --> 02:24.308 align:start MEANS WHAT THEY LIKE IT TO MEAN. 02:24.311 --> 02:25.476 align:start THEY WOULD DO PRACTICALLY 02:25.479 --> 02:29.280 align:start ANYTHING IT APPEARS TO PRESERVE 02:29.283 --> 02:33.117 align:start PRESIDENT OBAMA'S SIGNATURE LAW, 02:33.120 --> 02:34.419 align:start EVEN IT MEANS ESTABLISHED BY THE 02:34.422 --> 02:36.087 align:start STATE MEANS THE SAME THING AS 02:36.090 --> 02:39.857 align:start NOT ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE. 02:39.860 --> 02:41.159 align:start >> YOU WROTE AN EDITORIAL 02:41.162 --> 02:44.329 align:start RECENTLY THAT CAME UP WITH SOME 02:44.332 --> 02:47.165 align:start OTHER IDEAS, IF YOU WILL, HOW TO 02:47.168 --> 02:48.232 align:start SOLVE THE UNINSURED PROBLEM BUT 02:48.235 --> 02:50.635 align:start NOT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 02:50.638 --> 02:52.003 align:start YOU TALKED ABOUT A VOLUNTARILY 02:52.006 --> 02:53.237 align:start AND CONSTITUTIONAL SOLUTION. 02:53.240 --> 02:54.772 align:start TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT 02:54.775 --> 02:56.908 align:start THAT IF YOU WILL. 02:56.911 --> 02:58.376 align:start >> WELL FIRST WE DON'T LIKE TO 02:58.379 --> 03:00.111 align:start CALL IT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT 03:00.114 --> 03:00.912 align:start BECAUSE IT IS THE UNAFFORDABLE 03:00.915 --> 03:03.181 align:start CARE ACT. 03:03.184 --> 03:04.015 align:start WHAT IT HAS DONE IS MAKE 03:04.018 --> 03:05.650 align:start INSURANCE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE 03:05.653 --> 03:07.552 align:start THAN IT WAS BEFORE AND SOLIDIFY 03:07.555 --> 03:09.153 align:start IN PLACE A LOT OF THINGS THAT 03:09.156 --> 03:10.555 align:start ARE WRONG WITH AMERICAN MEDICAL 03:10.558 --> 03:13.157 align:start CARE AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT THAT 03:13.160 --> 03:15.526 align:start THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE 03:15.529 --> 03:18.830 align:start UNINSURED IS THAT THE COSTS ARE 03:18.833 --> 03:19.964 align:start MUCH TOO HIGH AND MUCH HIGHER 03:19.967 --> 03:22.700 align:start THAN THEY NEED TO BE BECAUSE THE 03:22.703 --> 03:24.002 align:start HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS ABOUT 03:24.005 --> 03:26.637 align:start SHUFFLING MONEY AROUND AND 03:26.640 --> 03:28.806 align:start HAVING PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST 03:28.809 --> 03:31.309 align:start CALCULATING RISKAL GO RIDGES AND 03:31.312 --> 03:32.977 align:start COLLECTING MONEY AND JUST ONLY 03:32.980 --> 03:34.946 align:start 40% GOES INTO THINGS YOU WOULD 03:34.949 --> 03:36.714 align:start IDENTIFY AS ANY KIND OF MEDICAL 03:36.717 --> 03:39.117 align:start GOOD OR SERVICES. 03:39.120 --> 03:40.685 align:start >> YOU MENTIONED IN THERE SOME 03:40.688 --> 03:42.687 align:start SOME WAYS INSURANCE IS A GAMBLE 03:42.690 --> 03:44.489 align:start AND A GAMBLE YOU NEVER HAVE TO 03:44.492 --> 03:47.125 align:start CASH IT, BUT IT IS A GAMBLE. 03:47.128 --> 03:48.526 align:start >> WITH YOUR CAR INSURANCE OR 03:48.529 --> 03:51.763 align:start HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE IT IS, YOU 03:51.766 --> 03:54.098 align:start HOPE YOU NEVER HAVE A CRASH OR 03:54.101 --> 03:55.833 align:start YOUR HOUSE NEVER CATCHES FIRE 03:55.836 --> 04:00.304 align:start BUT WITH HEALTH INSURANCE, IT IS 04:00.307 --> 04:01.406 align:start A HEALTH PLAN, IT IS PREPAYMENT 04:01.409 --> 04:03.174 align:start FOR KUJS. 04:03.177 --> 04:05.009 align:start YOU TURN YOUR MONEY OVER TO A 04:05.012 --> 04:08.980 align:start COLLECTIVE POT AND YOU HOPE THEY 04:08.983 --> 04:10.348 align:start WILL DOLE OUT SOMETHING TO YOU 04:10.351 --> 04:12.283 align:start AT THE TIME YOU NEED IT. 04:12.286 --> 04:13.751 align:start >> HOW DO WE SOLVE -- IF THE 04:13.754 --> 04:15.887 align:start COURT HAD STRUCK THIS DOWN, HOW 04:15.890 --> 04:17.555 align:start DO WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF FOLKS 04:17.558 --> 04:19.924 align:start WHO DON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF 04:19.927 --> 04:22.493 align:start MEDICAL COVERAGE AND CAN'T 04:22.496 --> 04:24.095 align:start AFFORD OUT OF POCKET PAYMENTS? 04:24.098 --> 04:26.097 align:start IS THERE A WAY TO SOLVE THAT? 04:26.100 --> 04:27.832 align:start >> OF COURSE, IF YOU CAN'T 04:27.835 --> 04:29.233 align:start AFFORD TO PAY A REASONABLE PRICE 04:29.236 --> 04:31.402 align:start FOR MEDICAL CARE, YOU CANNOT 04:31.405 --> 04:33.905 align:start AFFORD TO PAY TWO TO THREE TIMES 04:33.908 --> 04:35.440 align:start AS MUCH TO FUNNEL THE MONEY 04:35.443 --> 04:37.041 align:start THROUGH AN INSURANCE COMPANY. 04:37.044 --> 04:43.147 align:start AND THE ONE THING THAT THE 04:43.150 --> 04:43.881 align:start SUBSIDIES DID OR DO IS TO 04:43.884 --> 04:44.916 align:start DISGUISE THE UNAFFORDABILITY OF 04:44.919 --> 04:45.950 align:start THE PREMIUM BY MAKING SOMEBODY 04:45.953 --> 04:47.452 align:start ELSE PAY FOR THEM. 04:47.455 --> 04:49.320 align:start SO IF YOU MAKE LESS THAN A 04:49.323 --> 04:51.122 align:start CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAN 04:51.125 --> 04:52.724 align:start OTHER PEOPLE PAY THE INSURANCE 04:52.727 --> 04:57.261 align:start COMPANY, NOT YOU, BUT IF YOU 04:57.264 --> 05:01.799 align:start MAKE MORE THAN THAT AMOUNT OF 05:01.802 --> 05:03.801 align:start MONEY, YOU PAY MORE AND YOU HAVE 05:03.804 --> 05:04.836 align:start TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE WHO PAY MORE 05:04.839 --> 05:06.404 align:start THAN YOU. 05:06.407 --> 05:08.406 align:start >> AND BEFORE PRESIDENT OBAMA 05:08.409 --> 05:10.541 align:start BROUGHT THIS UP A NUMBER OF 05:10.544 --> 05:13.077 align:start YEARS AGO IT SEEMS, ACCESS TO 05:13.080 --> 05:16.481 align:start HEALTH CARE IS A LONG RUNNING 05:16.484 --> 05:18.316 align:start ARGUMENT IN THIS COUNTRY AND 05:18.319 --> 05:19.751 align:start PROBABLY AROUND THE WORLD. 05:19.754 --> 05:20.218 align:start IS THERE A SILVER BULLET TO 05:20.221 --> 05:21.185 align:start THAT. 05:21.188 --> 05:23.121 align:start OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T THINK THIS 05:23.124 --> 05:24.389 align:start IS THE SILVER BULLET TO IT BUT 05:24.392 --> 05:26.424 align:start IS THERE A SILVER BULLET TO IT. 05:26.427 --> 05:29.327 align:start >> I THINK WE NEED A FREE MARKET 05:29.330 --> 05:32.330 align:start AND LOCAL CHARITY THAT I THINK 05:32.333 --> 05:34.198 align:start ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE IN THIS 05:34.201 --> 05:35.500 align:start COUNTRY IS MUCH BETTER THAN 05:35.503 --> 05:36.267 align:start ACCESS IN OTHER COUNTRIES. 05:36.270 --> 05:38.136 align:start IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE 05:38.139 --> 05:39.604 align:start EMERGENCY ROOM, YOU ARE NOT 05:39.607 --> 05:40.571 align:start SEEING WELL OFF PEOPLE THERE AND 05:40.574 --> 05:41.773 align:start YOU ARE SEEING EVERYBODY THERE 05:41.776 --> 05:43.741 align:start AND EVERYBODY GETS TREATMENT. 05:43.744 --> 05:47.245 align:start THE BIG PROBLEM IS IF THEY HAVE 05:47.248 --> 05:47.645 align:start ANY MONEY THEY FACE A BIG BILL 05:47.648 --> 05:50.715 align:start AFTERWARDS. 05:50.718 --> 05:52.150 align:start BUT PEOPLE ARE NOT BLOCKED FROM 05:52.153 --> 05:54.252 align:start MEDICAL CARE BECAUSE IN CANADA 05:54.255 --> 05:56.421 align:start THEY DON'T HAVE NEARLY ENOUGH 05:56.424 --> 05:57.722 align:start DOCTORS OR THREE OR FOUR YEARS 05:57.725 --> 05:59.057 align:start DOWN ON THE WAITING LIST. 05:59.060 --> 06:01.459 align:start >> IS THERE ANYTHING GOOD, AS 06:01.462 --> 06:02.927 align:start WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS LAW FROM 06:02.930 --> 06:05.263 align:start THE DAY IT WAS WRITTEN TO THE 06:05.266 --> 06:06.898 align:start DAY IT WAS PASSED, TO THIS 06:06.901 --> 06:08.132 align:start WEEK'S SUPREME COURT RULING, IS 06:08.135 --> 06:11.402 align:start THERE ANYTHING GOOD IN THERE OR 06:11.405 --> 06:12.804 align:start DO WE REALLY NEED TO SCRAP IT 06:12.807 --> 06:14.472 align:start AND JUST START ALL OVER AGAIN. 06:14.475 --> 06:15.740 align:start >> I THINK WE NEED TO REPEAL IT 06:15.743 --> 06:18.576 align:start AND START ALL OVER AGAIN. 06:18.579 --> 06:22.347 align:start BUT THE GOOD THING IS IF YOU 06:22.350 --> 06:24.716 align:start BELONG TO A HEALTH SHARING 06:24.719 --> 06:26.351 align:start MINISTRY AND YOU SEND SMN TO 06:26.354 --> 06:27.719 align:start SOMEONE WHO HAS A MEDICAL NEED 06:27.722 --> 06:28.419 align:start YOU ARE NOT SUCKED WITH THE 06:28.422 --> 06:29.821 align:start INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY 06:29.824 --> 06:30.922 align:start PAYMENT OR TAX OR PENALTY OR 06:30.925 --> 06:33.291 align:start WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. 06:33.294 --> 06:35.793 align:start >> SO HELPING PEOPLE OUT, IN 06:35.796 --> 06:38.096 align:start ADDITION TO JUST YOURSELF, 06:38.099 --> 06:38.429 align:start MAILING OR SENDING MONEY OUT 06:38.432 --> 06:38.830 align:start HELPS. 06:38.833 --> 06:39.964 align:start >> CORRECT. 06:39.967 --> 06:41.466 align:start AND THEN IF YOU ARE PAYING 06:41.469 --> 06:43.434 align:start DIRECTLY AT THE TIME OF SERVICE, 06:43.437 --> 06:45.903 align:start THE PRICES ARE MUCH LOWER. 06:45.906 --> 06:48.272 align:start FOR EXAMPLE, THEY CAN BE 06:48.275 --> 06:51.142 align:start ONE-TENTH OF WHAT YOU MIGHT BE 06:51.145 --> 06:54.812 align:start FORCED TO PAY AT A SO-CALLED 06:54.815 --> 06:56.080 align:start NONPROFIT HOSPITAL IF YOU GO TO 06:56.083 --> 06:59.117 align:start PLACES LIKE THE SURGERY CENTER 06:59.120 --> 07:00.618 align:start OF OKLAHOMA FOR THE PACKAGE 07:00.621 --> 07:00.918 align:start PRICE OF THE SEERJ YOU NEED TO 07:00.921 --> 07:01.986 align:start HAVE. 07:01.989 --> 07:02.920 align:start >> AND YOU READ THE DECISION AND 07:02.923 --> 07:05.023 align:start FOLLOWED THIS CLOSELY FOR 07:05.026 --> 07:07.892 align:start SEVERAL YEARS AND WHAT DO YOU 07:07.895 --> 07:08.259 align:start THINK THE FUTURE WILL BRING FOR 07:08.262 --> 07:09.560 align:start THIS LAW? 07:09.563 --> 07:11.329 align:start I HAVE A FEELING THIS IS NOT 07:11.332 --> 07:12.630 align:start NECESSARILY THE END OF THE 07:12.633 --> 07:14.365 align:start CHALLENGES BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK 07:14.368 --> 07:15.767 align:start THE FUTURE SEEING? 07:15.770 --> 07:17.535 align:start >> I THINK IT IS NOT THE END OF 07:17.538 --> 07:20.538 align:start THE CHALLENGES BECAUSE THE LAW 07:20.541 --> 07:21.839 align:start IS UNAFFORDABLE AND 07:21.842 --> 07:23.274 align:start UNSUSTAINABLE AND IT IS MAKING 07:23.277 --> 07:25.710 align:start MANY MEDICAL PRACTICES CLOSE 07:25.713 --> 07:26.944 align:start THEIR DOORS BECAUSE OF THE HUGE 07:26.947 --> 07:29.147 align:start ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. 07:29.150 --> 07:31.416 align:start IT IS GIVING PEOPLE AN INSURANCE 07:31.419 --> 07:32.650 align:start CARD FOR INSURANCE THAT THEY 07:32.653 --> 07:34.819 align:start CAN'T REALLY USE BECAUSE THEY 07:34.822 --> 07:36.754 align:start ARE GETTING HIGH DEDUCTIBLE 07:36.757 --> 07:38.990 align:start INSURANCE AT FIRST DOLLAR 07:38.993 --> 07:40.425 align:start COVERAGE PRICES IS WHICH IS JUST 07:40.428 --> 07:41.926 align:start UPSIDE DOWN AND BACKWARDS. 07:41.929 --> 07:44.529 align:start >> DO YOU SEE CONGRESS EVER 07:44.532 --> 07:45.897 align:start BEING ABLE TO GET THROUGH 07:45.900 --> 07:47.298 align:start CHANGES RIGHT NOW OR ARE WE 07:47.301 --> 07:49.334 align:start GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR A NEW 07:49.337 --> 07:51.969 align:start PRESIDENT OR MAYBE TWO NEW 07:51.972 --> 07:52.603 align:start PRESIDENTS, DEPENDING ON HOW THE 07:52.606 --> 07:54.906 align:start 2016 ELECTION WORKS OUT. 07:54.909 --> 07:56.174 align:start >> I THINK WE NEED TO NOT DEPEND 07:56.177 --> 07:57.408 align:start ON CONGRESS. 07:57.411 --> 07:59.077 align:start I THINK CONGRESS IS QUITE 07:59.080 --> 08:00.978 align:start CORRUPT AND OEND BY SPECIAL 08:00.981 --> 08:02.714 align:start INTEREST GROUPS, MAINLY THE 08:02.717 --> 08:04.449 align:start INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO ARE 08:04.452 --> 08:05.983 align:start FORCING PEOPLE TO BUY A PRODUCT 08:05.986 --> 08:09.020 align:start THEY OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BUY. 08:09.023 --> 08:12.056 align:start I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT 08:12.059 --> 08:13.358 align:start MEDICAL SELF-SUFFICIENCY.COM AND 08:13.361 --> 08:14.092 align:start FIND OUT THAT BEING UNINSURED IS 08:14.095 --> 08:15.593 align:start NOT ALL THAT BAD. 08:15.596 --> 08:18.863 align:start THERE ARE WAYS TO TAKE CARE OF 08:18.866 --> 08:19.664 align:start YOUR NEEDS WITHOUT WASTING 60% 08:19.667 --> 08:20.932 align:start OF IT ON THIRD PARTY PAYMENT. 08:20.935 --> 08:22.166 align:start >> THANKS FOR COMING IN IT AND 08:22.169 --> 08:25.036 align:start TALKING WITH US ABOUT THIS. 08:25.039 --> 08:25.903 align:start >> THANK YOU FOR THE 08:25.906 --> 08:28.039 align:start OPPORTUNITY. 08:28.042 --> 08:29.707 align:start >>> NOW MATT HEINZ, A TUCSON 08:29.710 --> 08:33.111 align:start MEDICAL CENTER EMERGENCY ROOM 08:33.114 --> 08:33.478 align:start PHYSICIAN AND A FORMER STATE 08:33.481 --> 08:35.847 align:start LAWMAKER. 08:35.850 --> 08:36.681 align:start HE'S ALSO A SUPPORTER OF THE 08:36.684 --> 08:38.483 align:start AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 08:38.486 --> 08:40.451 align:start >> MATT, LET'S START WITH WHAT 08:40.454 --> 08:42.453 align:start THIS RULING ON THE AFFORDABLE 08:42.456 --> 08:44.756 align:start CARE ACT MEANS TO ARIZONA. 08:44.759 --> 08:46.491 align:start A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT TO KEEP 08:46.494 --> 08:48.059 align:start THEIR INSURANCE AS A RESULT. 08:48.062 --> 08:51.429 align:start >> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. 08:51.432 --> 08:52.597 align:start AND THIS IS REALLY A FANTASTIC 08:52.600 --> 08:52.997 align:start DECISION FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE 08:53.000 --> 08:54.766 align:start STATE. 08:54.769 --> 08:55.667 align:start OVER 200,000 HERE IN ARIZONA 08:55.670 --> 08:58.469 align:start HAVE HEALTH CARE THROUGH THE 08:58.472 --> 09:01.472 align:start MARKET PLACE THAT SERVES ARIZONA 09:01.475 --> 09:02.440 align:start AND ANOTHER 270,000 09:02.443 --> 09:03.975 align:start APPROXIMATELY THROUGH EXPANDED 09:03.978 --> 09:05.677 align:start MEDICAID SO THAT IS CLOSE TO 09:05.680 --> 09:08.613 align:start HALF A MILLION PEOPLE IN ARIZONA 09:08.616 --> 09:09.347 align:start ARE GETTING COVERED IN SMI WAY 09:09.350 --> 09:11.082 align:start BY THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND 09:11.085 --> 09:12.250 align:start THE OVER 200,000 DON'T NEED TO 09:12.253 --> 09:13.484 align:start WORRY ABOUT THE PREMIUMS 09:13.487 --> 09:15.787 align:start SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL OR 09:15.790 --> 09:16.954 align:start SPIKING IN ANY WAY BECAUSE OF AN 09:16.957 --> 09:19.757 align:start ADVERSE RULING. 09:19.760 --> 09:20.091 align:start >> YOU'RE AN M.D. HERE IN 09:20.094 --> 09:22.527 align:start TUCSON. 09:22.530 --> 09:24.762 align:start TELL ME ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE. 09:24.765 --> 09:26.497 align:start YOU WORK IN A HOSPITAL, NOT IN A 09:26.500 --> 09:28.933 align:start PRIVATE PRACTICE, BUT TELL ME 09:28.936 --> 09:29.500 align:start ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE 09:29.503 --> 09:33.037 align:start AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 09:33.040 --> 09:35.039 align:start >> SO IT'S -- WE ARE ALL IN -- 09:35.042 --> 09:39.010 align:start HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ARE ALL 09:39.013 --> 09:40.578 align:start WORKING HARD, NURSES, DOCTORS, 09:40.581 --> 09:41.779 align:start PHARMACISTS TO WORK HARD TO TAKE 09:41.782 --> 09:44.816 align:start CARE OF PATIENTS AND THAT IS 09:44.819 --> 09:47.185 align:start WHAT OUR FOCUS IS. 09:47.188 --> 09:48.152 align:start AND AFTER JANUARY OF 2014, A LOT 09:48.155 --> 09:51.022 align:start FEWER PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH 09:51.025 --> 09:52.757 align:start THE DOOR WITH INABILITY TO PAY, 09:52.760 --> 09:55.460 align:start MEANING UNCOMPENSATED CARE IS 09:55.463 --> 09:58.296 align:start PLUMMETING ACROSS THE STATE. 09:58.299 --> 09:59.464 align:start YOU CAN SEE THAT, THE ARIZONA 09:59.467 --> 10:00.832 align:start HEALTH CARE AND HOSPITAL 10:00.835 --> 10:02.133 align:start ASSOCIATION PUT OUT CLEAR FACTS 10:02.136 --> 10:04.035 align:start AND FIGURES ABOUT THAT BUT IT 10:04.038 --> 10:05.937 align:start HAS DROPPED BY OVER 50%. 10:05.940 --> 10:07.138 align:start THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE GETTING 10:07.141 --> 10:09.273 align:start INSURANCE AND ABLE TO COME IN 10:09.276 --> 10:11.442 align:start AND ABLE TO SEE, IF THEY NEED 10:11.445 --> 10:12.710 align:start TO, A PHYSICIAN OR A NURSE OR A 10:12.713 --> 10:14.045 align:start NURSE PRACTITIONER TO GET THE 10:14.048 --> 10:15.847 align:start CARE THEY NEED AND SO FAMILIES 10:15.850 --> 10:18.149 align:start ARE NOW ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO 10:18.152 --> 10:19.584 align:start CARE AFFORDABLY AND AT THE RIGHT 10:19.587 --> 10:21.919 align:start TIME WHEN IT IS EASY TO TAKE 10:21.922 --> 10:23.421 align:start CARE OF SOME OF THEIR PROBLEMS. 10:23.424 --> 10:26.657 align:start >> BEFORE YOU RETURN TO TUCSON 10:26.660 --> 10:28.860 align:start AS AN M.D., YOU WERE WORKING FOR 10:28.863 --> 10:30.728 align:start THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TALKING 10:30.731 --> 10:32.764 align:start ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 10:32.767 --> 10:34.165 align:start DID YOU HEAR THE NARRATIVE 10:34.168 --> 10:35.867 align:start CHANGE AT ALL WHILE YOU WERE 10:35.870 --> 10:38.136 align:start DOING THAT AND DID YOU HEAR 10:38.139 --> 10:40.405 align:start OPINION CHANGE AT ALL OR IS IT 10:40.408 --> 10:41.739 align:start STILL VERY BLACK AND WHITE HOW 10:41.742 --> 10:44.542 align:start PEOPLE FEEL OUT IN THE FIELD, 10:44.545 --> 10:45.143 align:start NOT NECESSARILY THE POLITICAL 10:45.146 --> 10:46.811 align:start PUNDIT? 10:46.814 --> 10:47.679 align:start >> I THINK WITHOUT -- MY ROLE 10:47.682 --> 10:49.714 align:start FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS 10:49.717 --> 10:51.015 align:start TO WORK CLOSELY WITH HEALTH 10:51.018 --> 10:52.417 align:start PROFESSIONALS ON BEHALF OF THE 10:52.420 --> 10:54.118 align:start SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN 10:54.121 --> 10:55.987 align:start SERVICES TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY 10:55.990 --> 10:56.521 align:start AND HELP THEM FIGURE OUT THE 10:56.524 --> 10:57.422 align:start AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 10:57.425 --> 10:59.791 align:start IT IS COMPLICATED. 10:59.794 --> 11:02.527 align:start BUT REALLY, OVER THE ALMOST TWO 11:02.530 --> 11:05.063 align:start YEARS I WAS THERE, THE FIRST 11:05.066 --> 11:07.098 align:start ENROLLMENT CYCLE FOR EXAMPLE, A 11:07.101 --> 11:08.933 align:start LOT MORE RESISTANCE AND THE 11:08.936 --> 11:11.135 align:start SECOND A LOT MORE FAMILIARITY. 11:11.138 --> 11:13.838 align:start PEOPLE WERE GETTING USED TO IT. 11:13.841 --> 11:14.939 align:start WHAT IS THIS WEBSITE, THIS 11:14.942 --> 11:15.907 align:start HEALTHCARE.GOV AND PEOPLE HAD 11:15.910 --> 11:17.742 align:start EXPLORED IT. 11:17.745 --> 11:18.743 align:start WHETHER THEY ENGAGED AND 11:18.746 --> 11:20.211 align:start ENROLLED OR NOT THEY WERE 11:20.214 --> 11:23.448 align:start FAMILIAR WITH IT AND SEEN IT IN 11:23.451 --> 11:25.116 align:start THE NEWS, SEEN IT ON COLBERT OR 11:25.119 --> 11:25.416 align:start UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THOSE 11:25.419 --> 11:28.219 align:start SHOWS. 11:28.222 --> 11:29.020 align:start BUT THAT MADE IT EASIER THE 11:29.023 --> 11:31.189 align:start SECOND TIME AROUND. 11:31.192 --> 11:33.091 align:start AND THE SAME THING APPLIES TO 11:33.094 --> 11:33.524 align:start PHYSICIANS AND OTHER HEALTH 11:33.527 --> 11:34.692 align:start PROFESSIONALS. 11:34.695 --> 11:36.227 align:start WE GET MORE FAMILIAR WITH 11:36.230 --> 11:36.995 align:start SOMETHING AND ARE FOR 11:36.998 --> 11:38.930 align:start COMFORTABLE WITH IT. 11:38.933 --> 11:41.032 align:start AND FRANKLY IT IS HUMAN NATURE 11:41.035 --> 11:42.600 align:start TO BE SOMEWHAT APPREHENSIVE AND 11:42.603 --> 11:44.435 align:start FEARFUL OF SOMETHING THAT IS 11:44.438 --> 11:44.836 align:start COMPLICATED AND UNKNOWN 11:44.839 --> 11:47.071 align:start TERRITORY. 11:47.074 --> 11:48.706 align:start SO THAT -- IT IS MUCH EASIER FOR 11:48.709 --> 11:50.341 align:start PEOPLE TO I THINK DEAL WITH NOW 11:50.344 --> 11:52.343 align:start AND UNDERSTAND AND THEY SEE HOW 11:52.346 --> 11:53.311 align:start IT IS WORKING FOR NEIGHBORS AN 11:53.314 --> 11:55.146 align:start FRIENDS AND THEMSELVES. 11:55.149 --> 11:56.447 align:start >> LET'S TAKE OURSELVES BACK 11:56.450 --> 11:57.248 align:start EARLIER IN THE WEEK TO THE 11:57.251 --> 11:59.817 align:start RULING. 11:59.820 --> 12:02.320 align:start IF THE COURT HAD RULED AGAINST 12:02.323 --> 12:04.389 align:start THIS PROVISION OF THE AFFORDABLE 12:04.392 --> 12:06.357 align:start CARE ACT, WHAT DO YOU SEE 12:06.360 --> 12:07.358 align:start HAPPENING IN ARIZONA IF WE HAD 12:07.361 --> 12:09.360 align:start THE OPPOSITE RESULT? 12:09.363 --> 12:11.095 align:start >> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 12:11.098 --> 12:13.297 align:start POTENTIALLY CHAOS FOR -- 12:13.300 --> 12:15.166 align:start ESPECIALLY THE 200,000 THAT ARE 12:15.169 --> 12:16.901 align:start ON THE MARKET PLACE, THAT ARE 12:16.904 --> 12:18.002 align:start GETTING A PRIVATE HEALTH 12:18.005 --> 12:19.303 align:start INSURANCE PLAN THROUGH THE 12:19.306 --> 12:21.806 align:start AFFORDABLE CARE ACT HERE IN 12:21.809 --> 12:22.974 align:start ARIZONA BECAUSE THERE WAS REALLY 12:22.977 --> 12:27.211 align:start NO FALLBACK. 12:27.214 --> 12:28.913 align:start THE GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE 12:28.916 --> 12:30.615 align:start UNWISELY PASSED LEGISLATION THIS 12:30.618 --> 12:32.216 align:start PAST SESSION SAYING WE NO WILL 12:32.219 --> 12:35.086 align:start THE SET UP A STATE EXCHANGE TO 12:35.089 --> 12:36.087 align:start HELP THESE 200,000 PEOPLE HAVE A 12:36.090 --> 12:37.288 align:start SUSTAINABLE MARKET PLACE AND 12:37.291 --> 12:39.090 align:start THAT COULD HAVE CAUSED ALL OF 12:39.093 --> 12:41.559 align:start THE PREMIUMS FOR THOSE FOLKS TO 12:41.562 --> 12:43.094 align:start GO OUT OF CONTROL WHEN ALL OF A 12:43.097 --> 12:45.196 align:start SUDDEN THE TAX CREDITS FOR LOW 12:45.199 --> 12:46.664 align:start AND MIDDLE INCOME FOLKS WOULD 12:46.667 --> 12:48.766 align:start SUDDEN DISAPPEAR. 12:48.769 --> 12:49.934 align:start SO IT WAS NEVER SOMETHING THE 12:49.937 --> 12:51.235 align:start ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT WAS TRULY 12:51.238 --> 12:52.804 align:start GOING TO HAPPEN AND FRANKLY WHEN 12:52.807 --> 12:55.039 align:start I WAS THERE IT WAS NOTHING 12:55.042 --> 12:57.075 align:start SOMETHING WE WERE EVER EVEN 12:57.078 --> 12:58.009 align:start PREPARED FOR BUT IT WOULD HAVE 12:58.012 --> 12:59.644 align:start BEEN ABSOLUTELY DISASTROUS. 12:59.647 --> 13:01.946 align:start >> HAVING LOOKED AT THIS THROUGH 13:01.949 --> 13:03.881 align:start THE EYES OF A DOCTOR WHO DEALS 13:03.884 --> 13:05.983 align:start WITH IT ON THE GROUND AND ALSO 13:05.986 --> 13:07.719 align:start THROUGH THE EYES OF THE 13:07.722 --> 13:08.619 align:start SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND THE 13:08.622 --> 13:10.488 align:start ADMINISTRATION, DO YOU SEE 13:10.491 --> 13:11.656 align:start THINGS WITHIN THE AFFORDABLE 13:11.659 --> 13:13.758 align:start CARE ACT THAT YOU LOOK AND SAY, 13:13.761 --> 13:15.960 align:start WELL THAT COULD BE DONE A LITTLE 13:15.963 --> 13:18.796 align:start BIT BETTER, OR IS IT ABOUT AS 13:18.799 --> 13:20.365 align:start GOOD AS IT CAN GET? 13:20.368 --> 13:21.966 align:start >> WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER. 13:21.969 --> 13:23.301 align:start I THINK YOU'LL HEAR THAT FROM 13:23.304 --> 13:26.604 align:start SECRETARY BURWELL AND THE 13:26.607 --> 13:27.572 align:start PRESIDENT HIMSELF. 13:27.575 --> 13:28.606 align:start BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT AS A 13:28.609 --> 13:29.340 align:start PHYSICIAN, I SEE PATIENTS ABLE 13:29.343 --> 13:30.675 align:start PHYSICIAN, I SEE PATIENTS ABLE 13:30.678 --> 13:32.143 align:start TO COME IN AND AFFORD TO GET 13:32.146 --> 13:34.912 align:start CARE THEY NEED AT A TIME WHEN 13:34.915 --> 13:36.014 align:start THEY NEED IT -- YES. 13:36.017 --> 13:37.148 align:start THAT IS SOMETHING ALL OF US IN 13:37.151 --> 13:38.282 align:start HEALTH CARE ARE SEEING MORE AND 13:38.285 --> 13:39.717 align:start MORE AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT IT 13:39.720 --> 13:41.185 align:start IS ALL ABOUT, MAKING SURE 13:41.188 --> 13:42.920 align:start PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES GET 13:42.923 --> 13:43.755 align:start THE ACCESS TO THE CARE THEY NEED 13:43.758 --> 13:45.490 align:start AT A TIME WHEN THEY NEED IT. 13:45.493 --> 13:49.861 align:start >> WORKING IN A HOSPITAL AND 13:49.864 --> 13:53.197 align:start WORKING IN AN E.R., DO YOU SEE 13:53.200 --> 13:54.165 align:start LESS EMERGENCY ROOM FAMILY 13:54.168 --> 13:56.234 align:start PHYSICIAN-TYPE VISITS NOW THAN 13:56.237 --> 13:58.903 align:start YOU USED TO OR DO YOU STILL SEE 13:58.906 --> 14:00.471 align:start PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE E.R. 14:00.474 --> 14:00.872 align:start DOORS FOR WHAT ARE NOT 14:00.875 --> 14:03.274 align:start EMERGENCIES? 14:03.277 --> 14:04.342 align:start >> THERE IS GOING TO BE A DEGREE 14:04.345 --> 14:06.944 align:start OF THAT ALWAYS. 14:06.947 --> 14:08.846 align:start IT IS UNFORTUNATELY -- A LOT OF 14:08.849 --> 14:10.915 align:start FOLKS UNABLE TO AFFORD AND GET 14:10.918 --> 14:13.651 align:start SOME TYPE OF INSURANCE BEFORE, 14:13.654 --> 14:16.721 align:start THINGS WILL GET OUT OF CONTROL, 14:16.724 --> 14:18.322 align:start OKAY THIS WON'T STOP BLEEDING OR 14:18.325 --> 14:20.191 align:start GRANDMA IS TOO BLUE TO PUT THIS 14:20.194 --> 14:21.359 align:start OFF, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE E.R. 14:21.362 --> 14:23.094 align:start OR THE CHEST PAIN REALLY WON'T 14:23.097 --> 14:24.896 align:start GO AWAY AND THAT IS WHERE FOLKS 14:24.899 --> 14:25.997 align:start WERE USED TO GOING AND NOW THAT 14:26.000 --> 14:28.800 align:start THEY HAVE INSURANCE ONE OF THE 14:28.803 --> 14:30.702 align:start MAIN GOALS ACTUALLY FOR HHS AT 14:30.705 --> 14:33.137 align:start THE TIME AND I KNOW IT STILL IS 14:33.140 --> 14:35.206 align:start IS TO HELP PEOPLE MEAN WHAT IT 14:35.209 --> 14:37.041 align:start IS TO HAVE INSURANCE. 14:37.044 --> 14:37.975 align:start HERE IS YOUR PRIMARY CARE 14:37.978 --> 14:39.610 align:start PROVIDER AND THIS IS YOUR 14:39.613 --> 14:41.045 align:start MEDICAL HOME AND TO EDUCATE 14:41.048 --> 14:42.347 align:start PATIENTS WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY NOT 14:42.350 --> 14:44.215 align:start ABLE TO GET INSURANCE AND 14:44.218 --> 14:46.617 align:start EVERYONE ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO 14:46.620 --> 14:48.686 align:start ACCESS THAT CARE AND FRACHGLY 14:48.689 --> 14:50.822 align:start THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY AND 14:50.825 --> 14:52.623 align:start THE BESTER WAY TO DO IT FOR 14:52.626 --> 14:53.858 align:start THEIR HEALTH, MATT HEINZ THANK 14:53.861 --> 14:54.892 align:start YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THE 14:54.895 --> 14:55.193 align:start AFFORDABLE CARE ACT THROUGH YOUR 14:55.196 --> 14:55.626 align:start EYES. 14:55.629 --> 14:57.095 align:start >> CERTAINLY. 14:57.098 --> 14:58.529 align:start IT IS GOOD TO BE HERE. 14:58.532 --> 15:00.865 align:start >>> THE SUPREME COURT ENDED THE 15:00.868 --> 15:02.734 align:start WEEK BY LEGALIZING SAME-SEX 15:02.737 --> 15:04.802 align:start MARRIAGE BUT DID NOT RULE ON THE 15:04.805 --> 15:05.970 align:start STATE'S REDISTRICTING CASE. 15:05.973 --> 15:09.040 align:start WE BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION OF THOSE 15:09.043 --> 15:11.609 align:start TWO CASES WITH BILL BEARD, THE 15:11.612 --> 15:12.377 align:start CHAIRMAN OF THE PIMA COUNTY 15:12.380 --> 15:16.547 align:start REPUBLICAN PARTY. 15:16.550 --> 15:17.582 align:start >> LET'S START WITH TODAY'S 15:17.585 --> 15:20.918 align:start RULING ON THE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. 15:20.921 --> 15:22.387 align:start IT REAFFIRMS WHAT IT ALREADY 15:22.390 --> 15:23.821 align:start HAPPENED IN ARIZONA FROM A COURT 15:23.824 --> 15:25.957 align:start RULING A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO 15:25.960 --> 15:26.257 align:start BUT NOW IT IS LEGAL ALL OVER THE 15:26.260 --> 15:29.160 align:start LAND. 15:29.163 --> 15:31.329 align:start >> YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS 15:31.332 --> 15:34.932 align:start THAT THE SUPREME COURT IS THE 15:34.935 --> 15:37.035 align:start AUTHORITY ON THAT -- THE RULING. 15:37.038 --> 15:37.335 align:start AND YOU CAN LIKE OR DISLIKE WHAT 15:37.338 --> 15:39.170 align:start IT IS. 15:39.173 --> 15:40.938 align:start THERE ARE THINGS THAT SUPREME 15:40.941 --> 15:43.307 align:start COURTS HAVE HANDED DOWN OVER THE 15:43.310 --> 15:44.842 align:start YEARS THAT EITHER PERSONALLY OR 15:44.845 --> 15:46.411 align:start FROM A PARTY PERSPECTIVE WE 15:46.414 --> 15:49.080 align:start HAVEN'T EXACTLY AGREED WITH BUT 15:49.083 --> 15:50.214 align:start WE FIRMLY ABELIEVE THAT WHAT THE 15:50.217 --> 15:51.883 align:start SUPREME COURT SAYS, THAT IS THE 15:51.886 --> 15:53.084 align:start LAW OF THE LAND AND IT IS UP SO 15:53.087 --> 15:55.586 align:start THE LEGISLATORS AND THE 15:55.589 --> 15:56.487 align:start GOVERNORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO 15:56.490 --> 15:58.589 align:start IMPLEMENT THAT LAW. 15:58.592 --> 16:00.992 align:start >> LET'S MOVE TO WHAT WE WILL 16:00.995 --> 16:01.326 align:start ASSUME IS A RULING COMING 16:01.329 --> 16:03.594 align:start MONDAY. 16:03.597 --> 16:03.928 align:start THE REDISTRICTING CASE FOR 16:03.931 --> 16:06.764 align:start ARIZONA. 16:06.767 --> 16:08.066 align:start THE QUESTION BEING, ARE 16:08.069 --> 16:10.802 align:start ARIZONA'S CONGRESSIONAL 16:10.805 --> 16:14.839 align:start DISTRICTS CORRECTLY WRITTEN OR 16:14.842 --> 16:16.774 align:start CORRECTLY DRAWN BY THE BODY. 16:16.777 --> 16:19.644 align:start WHAT HAPPENS COME MONDAY IF THE 16:19.647 --> 16:21.212 align:start COURT RULES THAT ARIZONA'S 16:21.215 --> 16:21.779 align:start CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS ARE NO 16:21.782 --> 16:23.915 align:start GOOD? 16:23.918 --> 16:25.883 align:start >> WELL, A LESSON TO REMEMBER IN 16:25.886 --> 16:28.319 align:start THIS CONVERSATION, THIS ISN'T A 16:28.322 --> 16:30.555 align:start LEGISLATIVE ISSUE, THIS IS AN 16:30.558 --> 16:31.322 align:start ISSUE ABOUT WHAT THE -- WHAT THE 16:31.325 --> 16:32.957 align:start CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED 16:32.960 --> 16:34.625 align:start STATES ACTUALLY SAYS IN IT. 16:34.628 --> 16:37.061 align:start AND IT IS PRETTY CLEAR TO THE 16:37.064 --> 16:39.297 align:start AVERAGE PERSON READING, IT SAYS 16:39.300 --> 16:40.098 align:start THE STATE LEGISLATORS ARE THE 16:40.101 --> 16:43.267 align:start ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR DETERMINING 16:43.270 --> 16:44.335 align:start THE LINES FOR -- FOR DETERMINING 16:44.338 --> 16:46.037 align:start CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. 16:46.040 --> 16:48.239 align:start THAT IS PRETTY CLEAR. 16:48.242 --> 16:49.774 align:start I DON'T CARE WHAT SIDE OF THE 16:49.777 --> 16:52.110 align:start POLITICAL SPECTRUM YOU COME DOWN 16:52.113 --> 16:52.477 align:start ON, THAT LANGUAGE IS PRETTY 16:52.480 --> 16:54.746 align:start CLEAR. 16:54.749 --> 16:56.180 align:start EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN 16:56.183 --> 16:57.849 align:start REPORTED IN FOLKS THAT REALLY 16:57.852 --> 16:59.517 align:start FOLLOW THIS STUFF, IT IS 16:59.520 --> 17:01.119 align:start BASICALLY PROBABLY GOING TO COME 17:01.122 --> 17:03.788 align:start DOWN TO THE SUPREME COURT 17:03.791 --> 17:05.690 align:start SAYING, YES, INDEED, IT IS UP TO 17:05.693 --> 17:07.091 align:start THE LEGISLATORS ACROSS THE 17:07.094 --> 17:07.925 align:start COUNTRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE 17:07.928 --> 17:12.096 align:start LINES ARE. 17:12.099 --> 17:13.598 align:start AND IN ESSENCE, SAY TO THE 17:13.601 --> 17:14.899 align:start INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING 17:14.902 --> 17:16.501 align:start COMMISSION, YOU NO LONGER HAVE 17:16.504 --> 17:17.168 align:start THE AUTHORITY TO DRAW THOSE 17:17.171 --> 17:20.004 align:start LINES. 17:20.007 --> 17:21.072 align:start IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE 17:21.075 --> 17:22.940 align:start WHAT THE VARIOUS SIDES DO AS A 17:22.943 --> 17:25.076 align:start RESULT FROM THAT. 17:25.079 --> 17:27.478 align:start THE POPCORN CONCESSION SHOULD BE 17:27.481 --> 17:27.779 align:start QUITE ENTERTAINING FOR MOST 17:27.782 --> 17:29.614 align:start FOLKS. 17:29.617 --> 17:32.150 align:start BUT I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS 17:32.153 --> 17:33.518 align:start IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT -- 17:33.521 --> 17:35.486 align:start THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE 17:35.489 --> 17:37.188 align:start THAT ARE ELECTED TO OFFICE, ARE 17:37.191 --> 17:37.989 align:start THE ONES THAT ARE HELD 17:37.992 --> 17:39.357 align:start ACCOUNTABLE, YOU WANT THE 17:39.360 --> 17:40.692 align:start LEGISLATOR TO BE THE ONES TO 17:40.695 --> 17:42.493 align:start DRAW THOSE LINES BECAUSE RIGHT 17:42.496 --> 17:43.528 align:start NOW THE INDEPENDENT 17:43.531 --> 17:45.263 align:start REDISTRICTING COMMISSION, THEY 17:45.266 --> 17:46.497 align:start ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE TO ANYONE 17:46.500 --> 17:48.866 align:start BUT THEMSELVES. 17:48.869 --> 17:52.370 align:start >> WE HAVE TWO DISTRICTS OF 17:52.373 --> 17:56.441 align:start PARTICULAR NOTE IN ARIZONA, 17:56.444 --> 17:58.776 align:start DISTRICT TWO, MARTHA McSALLY'S 17:58.779 --> 18:02.347 align:start DISTRICT AND KIRSTEN CINEMA'S 18:02.350 --> 18:04.816 align:start DISTRICT THAT ARE VERY 18:04.819 --> 18:07.251 align:start COMPETITIVE, AND McFALLY ONLY 18:07.254 --> 18:10.221 align:start WON BY 167 VOTES AND WILL THOSE 18:10.224 --> 18:11.589 align:start DISTRICTS DO YOU THINK WILL 18:11.592 --> 18:13.624 align:start DRASTICALLY CHANGE AND COULD YOU 18:13.627 --> 18:16.160 align:start CHANGE THEM TO MAKE -- YOU COULD 18:16.163 --> 18:17.562 align:start CHANGE THEM TO MAKE THEY LESS 18:17.565 --> 18:18.696 align:start COMPETITIVE BUT WILL THEY EVER 18:18.699 --> 18:21.399 align:start BE A SAFE DISTRICT. 18:21.402 --> 18:22.233 align:start >> ANY TIME THAT YOU START TO 18:22.236 --> 18:23.334 align:start DRAW LINES AND ANYBODY THAT 18:23.337 --> 18:24.869 align:start UNDERSTANDS HOW THE PROCESS 18:24.872 --> 18:27.171 align:start WORKS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 18:27.174 --> 18:29.540 align:start FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT. 18:29.543 --> 18:31.776 align:start YOU HAVE POPULATION OF INTEREST, 18:31.779 --> 18:32.510 align:start YOU HAVE GEOGRAPHY, A LOT OF 18:32.513 --> 18:33.811 align:start THINGS THAT GO INTO DETERMINING 18:33.814 --> 18:35.346 align:start WHERE THE LINES ARE DRAWN. 18:35.349 --> 18:38.383 align:start AND WHENEVER YOU START DRAWING A 18:38.386 --> 18:39.684 align:start LINE IN ONE LOCATION, YOU START 18:39.687 --> 18:41.085 align:start DETERMINING WHERE THE 18:41.088 --> 18:42.286 align:start CORRESPONDING OTHER LINES ARE 18:42.289 --> 18:43.788 align:start GOING TO BE ACROSS WHATEVER THAT 18:43.791 --> 18:45.656 align:start DISTRICT IS DETERMINED. 18:45.659 --> 18:47.425 align:start I THINK FOR MOST FOLKS THAT LIVE 18:47.428 --> 18:51.829 align:start IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, YOU 18:51.832 --> 18:57.368 align:start WILL SEE A CONGRESSIONAL -- JUST 18:57.371 --> 18:58.903 align:start AS A -- AS AN EXERCISE FOR THE 18:58.906 --> 19:00.071 align:start INTELLECT, IT WILL COME DOWN TO 19:00.074 --> 19:05.376 align:start MORE REPRESENTATION FOR 19:05.379 --> 19:06.110 align:start REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS 19:06.113 --> 19:06.811 align:start SIMPLY AS A MATTER THAT IS WHERE 19:06.814 --> 19:07.412 align:start THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS IN 19:07.415 --> 19:08.946 align:start ARIZONA HAPPEN TO BE. 19:08.949 --> 19:12.083 align:start THE COMPUTERS CAN DRAW THE LINES 19:12.086 --> 19:12.950 align:start IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND 19:12.953 --> 19:14.519 align:start CONFIGURATIONS BUT I THINK 19:14.522 --> 19:16.421 align:start YOU'LL SEE FOR THE MOST PART THE 19:16.424 --> 19:19.123 align:start NEW LINES, ASSUMING THE SUPREME 19:19.126 --> 19:20.758 align:start COURT HANDS DOWN THE DECISION WE 19:20.761 --> 19:23.461 align:start EXPECT, YOU'LL SEE LINES MORE IN 19:23.464 --> 19:25.163 align:start LINE WITH WHERE THE FOLKS LIVE 19:25.166 --> 19:26.964 align:start IN THE VARIOUS PARTS OF THE 19:26.967 --> 19:28.299 align:start STATE AND CARVE UP THOSE AREAS 19:28.302 --> 19:29.834 align:start MORE REPRESENTATIVE TO REFLECT 19:29.837 --> 19:31.269 align:start WHAT IT IS THE POPULATION OF 19:31.272 --> 19:33.638 align:start ARIZONA ACTUALLY IS. 19:33.641 --> 19:36.040 align:start >> IF THE LINES ARE ORDERED TO 19:36.043 --> 19:38.943 align:start BE REDRAWN, IS IT REALISTIC TO 19:38.946 --> 19:41.579 align:start THINK COURT CASES BEING WHAT 19:41.582 --> 19:43.147 align:start THEY WILL BE, IF IT THEY DO GET 19:43.150 --> 19:45.683 align:start REDRAWN, THAT THESE DISTRICTS 19:45.686 --> 19:47.185 align:start WOULD GO INTO EFFECT FOR THE 19:47.188 --> 19:50.021 align:start 2016 ELECTION OR REALISTICALLY 19:50.024 --> 19:51.989 align:start WOULD THESE BE A 2018 CHANGE. 19:51.992 --> 19:54.459 align:start >> IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE LAST 19:54.462 --> 19:56.527 align:start TWO TIMES WE DID REDISTRICTING 19:56.530 --> 19:58.262 align:start FOLLOWING A NORMAL CENSUS, THERE 19:58.265 --> 20:00.665 align:start WERE COURT CASES OF VARIOUS 20:00.668 --> 20:02.166 align:start TYPES BUT FOR THE MOST PART EVEN 20:02.169 --> 20:03.501 align:start IN 2014 WHEN THE LINES WERE 20:03.504 --> 20:05.169 align:start DRAWN, THEY WERE DRAWN LATE IN 20:05.172 --> 20:06.204 align:start THE CYCLE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 20:06.207 --> 20:07.972 align:start THE SECRETARY OF STATE THAT HAD 20:07.975 --> 20:09.707 align:start TO MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT IF 20:09.710 --> 20:12.377 align:start YOU WERE -- HAD ALREADY FILED 20:12.380 --> 20:14.312 align:start FOR OFFICE, YOU COULD GATHER 20:14.315 --> 20:15.013 align:start SIGNATURES IN BOTH THE OLD 20:15.016 --> 20:16.180 align:start CONFIGURATION OF THE DISTRICT 20:16.183 --> 20:17.682 align:start AND THE NEW. 20:17.685 --> 20:18.783 align:start I WOULD EXPECT GIVEN THAT 20:18.786 --> 20:20.218 align:start PRECEDENT THAT THE SECRETARY OF 20:20.221 --> 20:22.954 align:start STATE WOULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR 20:22.957 --> 20:26.891 align:start IN TERMS OF -- IF YOU ARE 20:26.894 --> 20:27.925 align:start GATHERING SIGNATURES FOR OFFICE, 20:27.928 --> 20:29.794 align:start ASSUMING THEY WERE TO DRAW NEW 20:29.797 --> 20:32.563 align:start LINES LATER THIS SUMMER, THAT 20:32.566 --> 20:33.598 align:start WOULD GIVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR 20:33.601 --> 20:35.400 align:start ANYBODY RUNNING FOR THE 20:35.403 --> 20:36.834 align:start DISTRICTS FOR CONGRESS TO GATHER 20:36.837 --> 20:38.469 align:start SIGNATURES IN THE APPROPRIATE 20:38.472 --> 20:40.304 align:start AREAS TO GET ON THE BALLOT. 20:40.307 --> 20:42.006 align:start >> WITH ABOUT A MINUTE TO GO, 20:42.009 --> 20:43.841 align:start HOW HARD IS IT WITH ALL OF THIS 20:43.844 --> 20:44.242 align:start LOOMING OUT THERE TO RECRUIT 20:44.245 --> 20:45.943 align:start CANDIDATES? 20:45.946 --> 20:47.745 align:start >> IT IS FUNNY, AS CHAIRMAN OF 20:47.748 --> 20:49.480 align:start THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN PIMA 20:49.483 --> 20:52.083 align:start COUNTY, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR 20:52.086 --> 20:54.786 align:start REPUBLICANS IN ANY OFFICE ARE 20:54.789 --> 20:56.788 align:start FRANKLY -- IT IS FERTILE GROUND 20:56.791 --> 20:57.155 align:start FOR MANY FOLKS THAT ARE OUT 20:57.158 --> 20:58.523 align:start THERE. 20:58.526 --> 21:00.191 align:start IT DOES COME DOWN, WHEN YOU ARE 21:00.194 --> 21:01.993 align:start MAKING THE DECISION TO RUN FOR 21:01.996 --> 21:04.929 align:start OFFICE, IT IS NOT JUST A 21:04.932 --> 21:05.563 align:start PERSONAL DECISION FOR YOU 21:05.566 --> 21:06.197 align:start YOURSELF, IT INVOLVES THE 21:06.200 --> 21:07.432 align:start FAMILY, IT INVOLVES YOUR 21:07.435 --> 21:07.799 align:start PERSONAL FINANCES, IT INVOLVES 21:07.802 --> 21:09.901 align:start YOUR JOB. 21:09.904 --> 21:11.069 align:start ALL OF THOSE THINGS GO INTO THE 21:11.072 --> 21:13.738 align:start PROCESS OF FIGURING IT OUT. 21:13.741 --> 21:16.374 align:start BUT ULTIMATELY, IF YOUR THINKING 21:16.377 --> 21:18.176 align:start IN TERMS OF REPUBLICANS VERSUS 21:18.179 --> 21:20.978 align:start DEMOCRATS, THE GROUND IN 21:20.981 --> 21:22.880 align:start SOUTHERN ARIZONA, WE'VE GOT 21:22.883 --> 21:24.415 align:start FERTILE FIELD AND THE HORIZONS 21:24.418 --> 21:25.583 align:start ARE VERY OPTIMISTIC FOR ALL OF 21:25.586 --> 21:27.051 align:start OUR CANDIDATES. 21:27.054 --> 21:28.252 align:start >> ALL RIGHT, WELL THANKS FOR 21:28.255 --> 21:29.053 align:start SITTING DOWN WITH US AND TALKING 21:29.056 --> 21:34.392 align:start ABOUT ALL OF THIS. 21:34.395 --> 21:36.427 align:start >>> AND NOW HERE IS CHERYL CAGE, 21:36.430 --> 21:38.363 align:start THE CHAIR OF THE PIMA COUNTY 21:38.366 --> 21:40.465 align:start DEMOCRATIC PARTY. 21:40.468 --> 21:42.533 align:start >> CHERYL LET'S START WITH 21:42.536 --> 21:43.368 align:start TODAY'S RULING OUT OF THE 21:43.371 --> 21:45.703 align:start SUPREME COURT ON SAME-SEX 21:45.706 --> 21:46.771 align:start MARRIAGE AFFIRMS WHAT HAPPENED 21:46.774 --> 21:47.972 align:start HERE IN ARIZONA, SAME-SEX 21:47.975 --> 21:49.941 align:start MARRIAGE LEGAL EVERYWHERE. 21:49.944 --> 21:52.710 align:start >> IT HAS BEEN TRULY A 21:52.713 --> 21:53.811 align:start REMARKABLE WEEK. 21:53.814 --> 21:57.882 align:start I THINK WE ARE -- ARE SEEING 21:57.885 --> 21:59.450 align:start THIS WONDERFUL TREND OF IN 21:59.453 --> 22:01.652 align:start COLLUSIVENESS, OBAMA CARE IS NOW 22:01.655 --> 22:04.088 align:start THE TRUE LAW OF THE LAND, IT IS 22:04.091 --> 22:07.825 align:start A RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE 22:07.828 --> 22:09.460 align:start MEDICAL CARE, AND NOW IT SOUNDS 22:09.463 --> 22:12.697 align:start CORNY BUT LOVE HAS WON OUT. 22:12.700 --> 22:13.965 align:start AND I THINK TODAY IS A 22:13.968 --> 22:15.767 align:start REMARKABLE DAY AND I JUST 22:15.770 --> 22:16.034 align:start COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT 22:16.037 --> 22:19.470 align:start IT. 22:19.473 --> 22:20.505 align:start >> AND AS WE SAID, ARIZONA, THIS 22:20.508 --> 22:22.373 align:start HAD ALREADY BECOME THE LAW IN 22:22.376 --> 22:25.743 align:start ARIZONA A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO 22:25.746 --> 22:26.144 align:start BUT NOW IT DOES AFFIRM IT 22:26.147 --> 22:26.878 align:start NATIONWIDE. 22:26.881 --> 22:28.279 align:start SO OFF WE GO. 22:28.282 --> 22:30.148 align:start >> OFF WE GO. 22:30.151 --> 22:34.185 align:start AND WE STILL HAVE -- WE STILL 22:34.188 --> 22:35.687 align:start HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, TO 22:35.690 --> 22:40.224 align:start REACH TRUE EQUALITY. 22:40.227 --> 22:41.759 align:start WOMEN STILL MAKE LESS THAN MEN. 22:41.762 --> 22:44.495 align:start THEY ARE STILL -- WE JUST HAD 22:44.498 --> 22:45.129 align:start THE CHARLESTON SITUATION, BUT 22:45.132 --> 22:47.265 align:start WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT 22:47.268 --> 22:48.099 align:start DISCRETION AND IT FEELS VERY, 22:48.102 --> 22:50.134 align:start VERY HOPEFUL. 22:50.137 --> 22:51.369 align:start >> LET'S LOOK FORWARD TO MONDAY. 22:51.372 --> 22:53.705 align:start THE CASE ARIZONA HAS BEEN 22:53.708 --> 22:55.540 align:start WAITING FOR FOR WEEKS, WE'VE ALL 22:55.543 --> 22:56.774 align:start BEEN GETTING UP EARLY TO SEE IF 22:56.777 --> 22:58.209 align:start THE COURT RULES AND THAT IS THE 22:58.212 --> 22:58.943 align:start ARIZONA REDISTRICTING CASE. 22:58.946 --> 23:02.046 align:start >> RIGHT. 23:02.049 --> 23:03.314 align:start >> WILL ARIZONA'S CONGRESSIONAL 23:03.317 --> 23:05.650 align:start LINES BE FOUND CONSTITUTIONAL 23:05.653 --> 23:06.884 align:start BECAUSE THEY WERE DRAWN BY THE 23:06.887 --> 23:09.520 align:start INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING 23:09.523 --> 23:11.689 align:start COMMISSION, NOT THE LEGISLATURE. 23:11.692 --> 23:12.924 align:start MONDAY MORNING WE SHOULD GET A 23:12.927 --> 23:13.925 align:start RULING. 23:13.928 --> 23:16.661 align:start WHAT HAPPENS FROM YOUR 23:16.664 --> 23:17.662 align:start PERSPECTIVE IF THE RULING GOES 23:17.665 --> 23:20.732 align:start IN FAVOR OF THE LEGISLATURE AND 23:20.735 --> 23:21.899 align:start WE HAVE TO REDRAW THESE LINES, 23:21.902 --> 23:23.968 align:start POSSIBLY BEFORE 2016? 23:23.971 --> 23:25.269 align:start >> WELL I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT 23:25.272 --> 23:27.872 align:start FIRST BEFORE YOU ANSWER HOW 23:27.875 --> 23:29.974 align:start WE'LL APPROACH THAT, WITH 23:29.977 --> 23:31.943 align:start LOOKING AT IT IN A BROAD CONTEXT 23:31.946 --> 23:36.614 align:start AND I THINK THIS WEEK IS A 23:36.617 --> 23:38.850 align:start PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE FACT THAT 23:38.853 --> 23:39.183 align:start THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS RUNNING 23:39.186 --> 23:42.253 align:start SCARED. 23:42.256 --> 23:42.587 align:start THERE IS A CHANGING VIEW IN 23:42.590 --> 23:47.091 align:start AMERICA. 23:47.094 --> 23:47.525 align:start WE'RE GOING TOWARDS A MAJORITY 23:47.528 --> 23:52.130 align:start MINORITY. 23:52.133 --> 23:53.598 align:start YOUNG PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WE WANT 23:53.601 --> 23:55.867 align:start INCLUSIVENESS. 23:55.870 --> 23:57.135 align:start AND INSTEAD OF CHANGING THEIR 23:57.138 --> 23:58.336 align:start POLITICS, BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN 23:58.339 --> 24:02.206 align:start PARTY HAS BEEN AGAINST 24:02.209 --> 24:04.342 align:start EVERYTHING THAT PASSED FROM 24:04.345 --> 24:07.578 align:start SCOTUS THIS WEEK, AGAINST GAY 24:07.581 --> 24:09.414 align:start MARRIAGE, AGAINST OBAMA CARE, 24:09.417 --> 24:11.115 align:start THIS REDISTRICTING CASE IS THE 24:11.118 --> 24:12.917 align:start LAST ATTEMPT AT A POWER GRAB TO 24:12.920 --> 24:14.786 align:start STAY IN POWER. 24:14.789 --> 24:17.522 align:start AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL 24:17.525 --> 24:19.090 align:start HAPPEN, WE WERE TALKING BEFORE, 24:19.093 --> 24:20.925 align:start IN ARIZONA YOU JUST DON'T KNOW 24:20.928 --> 24:23.461 align:start WHICH WAY THINGS ARE GOING TO 24:23.464 --> 24:27.332 align:start GO, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WHATEVER 24:27.335 --> 24:31.035 align:start THE DECISION IS, WE WILL FIGHT 24:31.038 --> 24:34.739 align:start FOR EQUALITY AND FOR JUSTICE. 24:34.742 --> 24:37.208 align:start AND THE VOTERS IN 2000 SAID VERY 24:37.211 --> 24:38.643 align:start CLEARLY, WE DON'T LIKE THE 24:38.646 --> 24:41.279 align:start GERRYMANDERING THAT IS GOING ON 24:41.282 --> 24:44.115 align:start AND THEY PASSED PROPOSITION 106 24:44.118 --> 24:46.150 align:start WHICH CHANGED OUR CONSTITUTION. 24:46.153 --> 24:48.453 align:start AND WE HAVE COMPETITIVE 24:48.456 --> 24:51.823 align:start DISTRICTS, MUCH MORE SO THAN WE 24:51.826 --> 24:54.258 align:start DID BEFORE. 24:54.261 --> 24:55.860 align:start AND I THINK THAT IT IS ALSO 24:55.863 --> 24:58.229 align:start IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT 24:58.232 --> 25:00.298 align:start SEEMS LIKE THE TERM LEGISLATIVE 25:00.301 --> 25:01.232 align:start IS GOING TO BE A BIG TURNING 25:01.235 --> 25:02.467 align:start POINT WITH THIS DECISION. 25:02.470 --> 25:04.302 align:start BUT IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR 25:04.305 --> 25:05.536 align:start PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE 25:05.539 --> 25:07.338 align:start LEGISLATURE WAS NOT CUT OUT OF 25:07.341 --> 25:09.474 align:start THIS PROCESS. 25:09.477 --> 25:10.708 align:start THE FIVE MEMBERS ON THE 25:10.711 --> 25:12.510 align:start COMMISSION, TWO OF THEM ARE 25:12.513 --> 25:14.846 align:start REPUBLICANS, TWO OF THEM ARE 25:14.849 --> 25:16.047 align:start DEMOCRATS, AND THOSE ARE 25:16.050 --> 25:18.316 align:start SELECTED BY THE LEGISLATORS. 25:18.319 --> 25:21.619 align:start AND THEN THE FIFTH PERSON IS 25:21.622 --> 25:22.687 align:start SELECTED BY THOSE FOUR PEOPLE. 25:22.690 --> 25:24.355 align:start SO THE LEGISLATURE DOES STILL 25:24.358 --> 25:25.990 align:start HAVE SOME INPUT -- A GREAT DEAL 25:25.993 --> 25:29.527 align:start OF INPUT INTO THIS. 25:29.530 --> 25:32.330 align:start SO I WILL BE VERY DISAPPOINTED 25:32.333 --> 25:34.198 align:start IF IT GOES AGAINST THE 25:34.201 --> 25:35.433 align:start COMMISSION AND I SUSPECT WE'LL 25:35.436 --> 25:36.968 align:start FIGHT IT IF IT DOES. 25:36.971 --> 25:38.269 align:start >> YOU MENTIONED COMPETITIVE 25:38.272 --> 25:41.239 align:start DISTRICTS, IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA, 25:41.242 --> 25:42.740 align:start WE HAVE THE DISTRICT THAT IS NOW 25:42.743 --> 25:44.575 align:start REPRESENTED BY MARTHA McSALLY, 25:44.578 --> 25:47.979 align:start VERY COMPETITIVE IN THE PHOENIX 25:47.982 --> 25:52.050 align:start AREA, THE DISTRICT REPRESENTED 25:52.053 --> 25:53.484 align:start BY REPRESENTATIVE KRYSTEN 25:53.487 --> 25:55.253 align:start SINEMA, VERY COMPETITIVE AND DO 25:55.256 --> 25:57.855 align:start YOU SEE A WAY REALISTICALLY, 25:57.858 --> 25:59.524 align:start BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS TO FIT 25:59.527 --> 26:01.259 align:start TOGETHER, A BIG PUZZLE, THAT 26:01.262 --> 26:02.827 align:start THOSE DISTRICTS BECAME SAFE 26:02.830 --> 26:05.063 align:start DISTRICTS OR WILL THEY ALWAYS 26:05.066 --> 26:06.264 align:start BECOME COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS BUT 26:06.267 --> 26:09.033 align:start IT IS JUST HOW COMPETITIVE? 26:09.036 --> 26:11.302 align:start >> THIS IS WHERE THE CYNIC IN ME 26:11.305 --> 26:13.838 align:start COMES OUT. 26:13.841 --> 26:15.373 align:start I THINK WE KNOW THE REPUBLICANS 26:15.376 --> 26:17.175 align:start IN THE SATE LEGISLATURE HAVE 26:17.178 --> 26:18.609 align:start ALREADY STARTED DRAWING THE MAPS 26:18.612 --> 26:21.145 align:start AND PUT MONEY DOWN ON PEOPLE TO 26:21.148 --> 26:22.447 align:start HELP THEM TO DRAW THOSE MAPS. 26:22.450 --> 26:24.816 align:start THE REASON THAT THEY ARE DOING 26:24.819 --> 26:25.583 align:start THIS IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT 26:25.586 --> 26:30.221 align:start COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS. 26:30.224 --> 26:31.356 align:start I LOVE THE FACT THAT -- I'M 26:31.359 --> 26:32.123 align:start DISAPPOINTED THAT RON BARBER 26:32.126 --> 26:36.127 align:start LOST OBVIOUSLY. 26:36.130 --> 26:37.962 align:start BUT THE FACT THAT HE LOST BY 167 26:37.965 --> 26:39.630 align:start VOTES TELLS ME THAT IS A REALLY 26:39.633 --> 26:40.698 align:start COMPETITIVE DISTRICT. 26:40.701 --> 26:42.066 align:start AND I LIKE THAT. 26:42.069 --> 26:44.302 align:start I LIKE OUR POLITICIANS TO HAVE 26:44.305 --> 26:45.937 align:start TO STAND UP AND SAY THIS IS WHO 26:45.940 --> 26:48.172 align:start I AM, THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO 26:48.175 --> 26:50.108 align:start FIGHT FOR AND THAT IS WHAT YOU 26:50.111 --> 26:52.510 align:start GET IN A -- IN A DISTRICT THAT 26:52.513 --> 26:54.612 align:start IS TRULY COMPETITIVE. 26:54.615 --> 26:56.681 align:start AND MY FEAR IS THAT THEY ARE 26:56.684 --> 26:59.350 align:start GOING TO REDRAW THE LINES TO 26:59.353 --> 27:03.154 align:start WHERE THERE ARE MORE REPUBLICAN 27:03.157 --> 27:05.156 align:start SAFE DISTRICTS AND YOU WILL SEE 27:05.159 --> 27:08.760 align:start PEOPLE GAINING THESE SEATS THAT 27:08.763 --> 27:09.661 align:start PERHAPS ARE NOT THE BEST PEOPLE 27:09.664 --> 27:12.363 align:start TO HAVE. 27:12.366 --> 27:13.965 align:start I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN LOTS OF 27:13.968 --> 27:15.366 align:start TALK, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING 27:15.369 --> 27:17.301 align:start THAT YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW, 27:17.304 --> 27:18.269 align:start THAT DAVID GOWAN IS LOOKING FOR 27:18.272 --> 27:20.004 align:start A CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. 27:20.007 --> 27:22.240 align:start AND THIS IS A POLITICIAN THAT 27:22.243 --> 27:25.143 align:start QUITE FRANKLY, I'M SURE HE'S A 27:25.146 --> 27:28.613 align:start LOVELY MAN, BUT HE'S TONE DEAF. 27:28.616 --> 27:30.815 align:start HE CUTS J TED AND THEN HE USED 27:30.818 --> 27:34.686 align:start THE J TED STUDENTS TO FIX HIS 27:34.689 --> 27:36.454 align:start CAR AND SAVE BETWEEN $700 AND 27:36.457 --> 27:37.422 align:start $1,000 AND DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING 27:37.425 --> 27:39.057 align:start WRONG WITH THAT. 27:39.060 --> 27:39.457 align:start THAT IS NOT COMPETITIVE 27:39.460 --> 27:40.858 align:start CANDIDATES. 27:40.861 --> 27:42.093 align:start >> WELL THANKS FOR COMING IN AND 27:42.096 --> 27:43.328 align:start TALKING WITH US ABOUT THIS. 27:43.331 --> 27:45.163 align:start WE'LL ALL WAIT FOR MONDAY 27:45.166 --> 27:45.863 align:start MORNING TO SEE WHAT THE SUPREME 27:45.866 --> 27:47.799 align:start COURT WILL RULE. 27:47.802 --> 27:48.399 align:start >> I'LL BE UP EARLY IF YOU NEED 27:48.402 --> 27:48.933 align:start TO CALL ME. 27:48.936 --> 27:49.467 align:start >> THANK YOU. 27:49.470 --> 27:50.868 align:start >> THANK YOU. 27:50.871 --> 27:51.402 align:start >> AND THAT IS OUR PROGRAM FOR 27:51.405 --> 27:54.572 align:start THIS WEEK. 27:54.575 --> 27:54.939 align:start WE'RE OFF NEXT WEEK IN HONOR OF 27:54.942 --> 27:56.941 align:start JULY 4TH. 27:56.944 --> 28:03.014 align:start THANKS FOR WATCHING.