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>>> THE 2018 ELECTION CYCLE

 

HEATING UP.

 

>> THIS GOING TO BE A HUGE

 

POLITICAL RACE, MILLIONS AND

 

MILLIONS OF OUTSIDE DOLLARS

 

BEING SPENT.

 

>> AN OPEN SENATE SEAT CREATES A

 

DOMINO EFFECT ON OTHER RACES.

 

>> YOU'LL HAVE SO MANY OF THEM

 

VACANTING THEIR SEATS

 

POTENTIALLY.

 

>> A STATE REPRESENTATIVE FACING

 

SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS.

 

>> HELLO, THANK YOU FOR JOINING

 

US.

 

ARIZONA'S OPEN SENATE SEAT

 

GENERATING EXCITEMENT AND

 

OPENING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE

 

FUTURE OF ARIZONA'S POLITICAL

 

LANDSCAPE, A COMPREHENSIVE

 

ANALYSIS FROM POLITICAL

 

STRATEGIST IN PHOENIX, DREW SEX

 

TON SERVED AS A PUBLIC AFFAIRS

 

AND COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST

 

AND NOW REPRESENTS HIGH GROUND

 

PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND JASON BARASA

 

FOR THE PARTY, BOTH STRATEGISTS

 

DEGREE ARIZONA IS IN A UNIQUE

 

SPOT, 12 MEN, MAJORITY

 

REPUBLICAN REPRESENTED ARIZONA

 

IN THE U.S. SENATE AND MARTHA

 

McSALLY SAID SHE'LL BE IN THE

 

RACE.

 

WE BEGIN WITH DREW SEXTON.

 

>> ANY CANDIDATE THAT WINS THE

 

NOMINATION FOR THE SENATE SEAT

 

AS A REPUBLICAN THEY'LL HAVE A

 

BIG ADVANTAGE BUT OBVIOUSLY

 

DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS ARE

 

GOING ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.

 

PRESIDENT TRUMP ALREADY HAD AN

 

EFFECT IN TURNOUTS IN PLACES

 

LIKE VIRGINIA AND NEW JERSEY.

 

REPUBLICANS WILL NEED TO MAKE

 

SURE THEY NOMINATE A SOLID

 

CANDIDATE NOT NECESSARILY ON THE

 

FRINGE OF WHAT WE WOULD SAY THE

 

REPUBLICAN PARTY IS.

 

THEY NEED TO HAVE A CREDIBLE

 

CANDIDATE THAT CAN BUILD A

 

WINNING GENERAL ELECTION

 

COALITION.

 

>> JASON, DO DEMOCRATS SEE THIS

 

AS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY?

 

>> I THINK THEY DO.

 

YOU'RE DEALING WITH A FRACTURED

 

REPUBLICAN PARTY AND STARTING TO

 

TRICKLE ITS WAY DOWN, IT'S GOING

 

TO PRODUCE VERY INTERESTING

 

RESULTS AND COULD BE THE

 

OPPORTUNITY THE DEMOCRATS NEED

 

IN THIS PARTICULAR RACE.

 

>> FRACTURE, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A

 

TOUGH WORD TO USE BUT MIGHT BE

 

PRETTY ACCURATE.

 

>> THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN A

 

SHIFT IDEOLOGUALLY IN WHAT THE

 

PRIORITIES ARE.

 

WE'VE GONE FROM A PARTY THAT'S

 

TYPICALLY BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH

 

THINGS LIKE FREE TRADE TO WHERE

 

WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT JUST

 

SOMEBODY A CANDIDATE THAT WILL

 

FIGHT FOR OUR BELIEFS, NOT

 

NECESSARILY BE OR HAVE

 

IDEALOGICAL PURITY.

 

I THINK THERE'S GOING TO

 

OBVIOUSLY BE A TOUGH REPUBLICAN

 

FIGHT IN THE SENATE, WHETHER

 

IT'S WITH FORMER STATE SENATOR

 

KELLY WARD IN SPECULATIVELY

 

CONGRESSMAN MARTHA McSALLY AND

 

JAY HOOILER WHO HAS THE BACKING

 

OF GOVERNOR BREWER, IT WILL BE A

 

TOUGH, NASTY PRIMARY BUT WE'VE

 

SEEN TRADITIONALLY THAT

 

REPUBLICANS HAVE HAD TOUGH

 

PRIMARIES BUT IT'S HELPED

 

CANDIDATES IN THE LONG RUN AND

 

MADE THEM BATTLE TESTED AND FINE

 

TUNE MESSAGING AND STILL HAVE A

 

LOT OF SUCCESS IN GENERAL

 

ELECTIONS.

 

>> JASON, WE HEAR CONGRESSWOMAN

 

DOING VERY WELL.

 

HOW LIKELY IS SHE TO LEAD THE

 

RACE?

 

>> HER CHALLENGE IS KEEPING HER

 

NAME OUT THERE AND STAYING

 

RELEVANT.

 

WITHOUT THE PRIMARY THAT BECOMES

 

A DIFFICULT THING TO DO WHICH

 

ALWAYS TENDS TO BENEFIT THOSE

 

CANDIDATES THAT HAVE THE

 

PRIMARY.

 

THEY ARE THE ONES BEING COVERED

 

IN THE MEDIA AND HAVING THEIR

 

TALKING POINTS COVERED.

 

IN THIS RACE IT ALL COMES DOWN

 

TO TRUMP AND HOW MUCH YOU'RE

 

GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED OR

 

UNASSOCIATED WITH HIM COMING OUT

 

OF THAT REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

 

SO FOR HER AND IN THIS CASE, ALL

 

GOING TO BE ALL ABOUT TRYING TO

 

PORTRAY THE EVENTUAL CANDIDATE

 

THAT COMES OUT AS A TRUMPITE,

 

SOMEBODY ON THAT FRINGE AND

 

ISN'T THE MAINSTREAM CANDIDATE.

 

>> ARIZONA HAS LONG BEEN A

 

CONSERVATIVE STATE.

 

IS DONALD TRUMP REPUBLICAN,

 

KELLY WARD REPUBLICAN, A

 

REPUBLICAN STATE OR IS THIS A

 

NEW BREED OF CONSERVATIVES?

 

>> IN OUR SURVEY RESEARCH AT

 

HIGH GROUND WE PUT OUT A POLL IN

 

MID AUGUST AND FOUND THREE OF

 

FOUR LIKELY REPUBLICAN PRIMARY

 

VOTERS STILL SUPPORT PRESIDENT

 

TRUMP.

 

HE DOES HAVE IMPORTANCE.

 

HIS ENDORSEMENT WILL BE A BIG

 

DEAL WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN

 

PRIMARY.

 

WHETHER THAT IMPACTS THE GENERAL

 

ELECTION IN A POSITIVE LIGHT, I

 

THINK THAT'S STILL UP FOR

 

QUESTION.

 

I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTING

 

DYNAMICS OF A POTENTIAL McSALLY

 

CINEMA RACE, WE'VE SEEN

 

REPUBLICANS THAT WIN THE

 

NOMINATION WHETHER IT'S FOR

 

GOVERNOR OR SENATE, TYPICALLY

 

THEY COME FROM MARICOPA COUNTY

 

AND PIMA IS BEEN A STRONG HOLD.

 

McSALLY REPRESENTS A BIG PART OF

 

TUCSON.

 

SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANG

 

TOUGH IN PIMA AND THAT MAKES FOR

 

AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC WITH

 

CONGRESSWOMAN CINEMA, HER BASE

 

IS TEMPE AND CHANDLEER.

 

THAT WILL BE AN INTERESTING

 

THING TO KEEP AN EYE ON IF

 

SHE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE HER

 

MESSAGE TO RURAL COUNTIES LIKE

 

MOJAVE AND YUMA.

 

>> WHO DO WE SEE JUMP IN THAT

 

RACE?

 

>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF

 

CANDIDATES CIRCLING THEIR NAMES

 

OUT THERE.

 

MATT HINES, HE HAS NAME I.D.

 

LOCALLY AND ANN KIRK PATRICK, IT

 

COULD BE A VERY POTENT ADVERSARY

 

FOR ANY REPUBLICANS TO STEP

 

FORWARD IN THAT RACE.

 

>> CD 2 HAS BEEN WATCHED FROM A

 

NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS IT

 

THAT'S SO FASCINATING?

 

JASON, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

 

>> WHEN YOU GO TO THE VERY BASE

 

SICKS, LOOKING AT REGISTRATION,

 

IT'S ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT

 

IS CLOSE IN REGISTRATION FOR

 

EITHER SIDE TO MAKE A PLAY FOR

 

IT JUST BASED ON SOLID

 

REGISTRATION NUMBERS.

 

BUT THEN YOU BRING IN OUTSIDE

 

FACTORS WHERE YOU HAVE A

 

MILITARY BASE TENDS TO PLAY

 

TOWARDS MORE REPUBLICAN

 

CANDIDATES AND VERY STRONG

 

ENVIRONMENTAL PRESENCE DOWN IN

 

SOUTHERN ARIZONA, WHICH TENDS TO

 

GO TOWARDS MORE A DEMOCRATIC

 

CANDIDATE.

 

IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH A

 

DISTRICT THAT HAS ISSUES THAT

 

ARE IMPORTANT OR PRESENCE THERE

 

FOR ITS CONSTITUENTS THAT CAN

 

PLAY TO EITHER SIDE OF THE AISLE

 

AND VERY CLOSE REGISTRATION

 

BASE.

 

IT MAKES IT APPEALING TO EITHER

 

SIDE.

 

>> I THINK IT'S KIND OF A

 

FASCINATING DISTRICT.

 

IT WAS ONE OF ONLY 23 DISTRICTS

 

IN THE COUNTRY THAT VOTED FOR

 

SECRETARY CLINTON, BUT ALSO

 

REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL

 

CANDIDATE.

 

IN THIS INSTANCE, McSALLY.

 

I THINK THE DYNAMIC OF HAVING A

 

LARGE CHUNK OF THAT URBAN TUCSON

 

COMMUNITY BUT ALSO THAT

 

STRETCHES ALL THE WAY TO THE

 

BORDER, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ERA

 

VISTA, IT IS A VERY UNIQUE

 

DYNAMIC IN TERMS OF THAT MIX OF

 

URBAN AND RURAL.

 

ANY CANDIDATES THAT RUNS IN CD 2

 

WILL HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT MIX

 

BETWEEN REPRESENTING THOSE IN

 

URBAN COMMUNITIES AND THOSE IN

 

RURAL BECAUSE AS WE SEE

 

ELECTORAL RESULTS, THAT'S

 

BECOMING THE BIGGEST DIVIDE AND

 

INDICATOR OF PARTISAN VOTER,

 

WHETHER YOU LIVE IN AN URBAN

 

COMMUNITY OR RURAL COMMUNITY.

 

I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKE CD2

 

UNIQUE, ONE OF THE FEW DISTRICTS

 

THAT BRINGS BOTH OF THOSE

 

FACTORS TOGETHER.

 

>> ARE THESE DEMOCRATS THAT

 

CONNECTED THEMSELVES TO THE

 

HILLARY CLINTON CAMP THAT WE SAW

 

MORE THAN A YEAR AGO?

 

ARE DEMOCRATS LIKELY TO SEE

 

FRACTURING WHAT THEIR PARTY ONCE

 

WAS?

 

>> TALK ABOUT FRACTURING IN THE

 

REPUBLICAN PARTY, I DON'T THINK

 

DEMOCRATS HAVE COME ACROSS WHO

 

THEY ARE AND DEFINED THEMSELVES

 

EITHER.

 

THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO SEE

 

IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO DEVELOP

 

OUT OF DEMOCRATS DEFINING WHO

 

THEY ARE AND COMING FORWARD WITH

 

THEIR MESSAGE.

 

IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEY

 

WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE A BENEFIT

 

OFF OF THE OPPORTUNITIES

 

PRESENTED.

 

>> TWO PARTIES IDENTIFYING

 

THEMSELVES IN A STATE THAT HAS

 

LONG BEEN A CONSERVATIVE PLACE,

 

DOES THAT MEAN WE ARE THE PURPLE

 

THAT JASON THINKS HE WANTS US TO

 

BE.

 

>> BOTH ARE LOOKING IN THE

 

MIRROR AND SAYING WHO ARE WE?

 

WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE?

 

WHAT VALUE DO WE REPRESENT.

 

ARE WE COMMITTED TO IDEALOGICAL

 

PURSUITS, COMMITTED TO GETTING

 

THINGS DONE OR MOSTLY JUST

 

COMMITTED TO ANGERING THE OTHER

 

SIDE?

 

I THINK WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THAT

 

ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

 

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GETTING

 

THINGS DONE, IT'S MOSTLY BEING

 

AGAINST THINGS.

 

ANY CANDIDATE THAT MANAGES TO

 

GET YOU A GENERAL ELECTION, THEY

 

HAVE THEIR -- THEY HAVE AN

 

ADVANTAGE BUT I THINK THEY NEED

 

TO BE ABLE TO PAINT A PICTURE OF

 

GETTING THINGS DONE AND BEING

 

ABLE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR

 

ARIZONA, NOT NECESSARILY ONE

 

PARTY OR THE OTHER BUT BEING

 

ABLE TO PUSH FOR POLICIES LIKE

 

DEFENDING AIR FORCE BASE, MAKING

 

SURE WE'RE STAYING SAFE AND

 

FINDING A SOLUTION TO

 

IMMIGRATION.

 

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE

 

BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS A STATE

 

SINCE 2006.

 

THERE STILL HAS NOT BEEN A

 

SOLUTION TO IMMIGRATION REFORM

 

HERE.

 

SO THAT'S REALLY I THINK

 

ULTIMATELY WHAT REPUBLICANS IF

 

THEY WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN

 

THIS CYCLE IN MOVING FORWARD FOR

 

THE NEXT DECADE, THEY NEED TO BE

 

ABLE TO SHOW SOME RESULTS.

 

>> WHAT OUGHT THE DEMOCRATS BE

 

DOING?

 

>> A LOT OF THE SAME THING.

 

I'VE SAID THAT STOP ATTACKING

 

YOUR OPPONENTS BECAUSE NOBODY

 

WANTS A NEGATIVE MESSAGE.

 

CANDIDATES THAT SEEM TO BE

 

SUCCESSFUL, TIME AND TIME AGAIN,

 

ARE THOSE THAT CAN PORTRAY A

 

POSITIVE VISION FOR WHAT THE

 

FUTURE HOLDS.

 

PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW

 

SOMEBODY FORWARD.

 

IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, YOU'RE NOT

 

GOING TO BE ABLE TO GAIN THE

 

SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED AND PEOPLE

 

WILL OFTEN FOLLOW STATUS QUO AND

 

GO BACK TO WHAT THEY KNOW AND

 

MANY TIMES IN ARIZONA THAT MEANS

 

THAT THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IS

 

GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

 

>> AS WE LOOK INTO THE NEXT

 

ELECTION CYCLE, WHERE DOES

 

ARIZONA FIT ON A NATIONAL MAP

 

WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS.

 

>> SPECIFICALLY ON SENATE SIDE

 

YOU HAVE REPUBLICANS HOLDING

 

ONLY A TWO SEAT ADVANTAGE.

 

THE MAP AS A WHOLE NATIONALLY

 

BUT MOSTLY DEMOCRATS ARE GOING

 

TO BE DEFENDING.

 

THEY ARE ABOUT 23 DEMOCRATS UP

 

FOR RE-ELECTION, ONLY EIGHT

 

REPUBLICANS LOOKING FOR TO BE

 

RE-ELECTED.

 

BUT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN SENATOR

 

FLAKE STEPPED AWAY.

 

THIS IS AN OPEN SEAT.

 

THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO

 

CLOSE THAT MARGIN IN THE SENATE.

 

THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE

 

POLITICAL RACE.

 

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MILLIONS AND

 

MILLIONS OF OUTSIDE DOLLARS

 

BEING SPENT BY DARK MONEY

 

GROUPS, BY CANDIDATE PACS,

 

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF

 

MONEY AND ATTENTION ON THIS

 

RACE.

 

DO THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS A

 

DIVISIVE NASTY RACE WHERE WE SO

 

THAT DEVOLVE WHEN YOU GET A RACE

 

AT THE BOTTOM OR PRESENT A

 

VISION FOR NOT ONLY THEIR PARTY

 

BUT THE STATE WHERE THEY CAN

 

LEAD AND SAY I'M GOING TO GO TO

 

THE SENATE AND I'M GOING TO

 

REPRESENT ARIZONA, I'M GOING TO

 

FIGHT FOR US ON IMMIGRATION

 

REFORM AND FIGHT ON DEFENDING

 

OUR MILITARY BASES AND FIGHT TO

 

MAKE SURE THE MIDDLE CLASS

 

AMERICANS GET TAX REFORM DONE

 

AND PAY LESS IN TAXES.

 

I THINK REALLY THAT'S GOING TO

 

BE THE KEY FOR REPUBLICANS.

 

>> JASON?

 

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A THIGH

 

HIGH

 

DOLLAR SPENDING AND MORE

 

COMMERCIALS AND MAILERS THAN ANY

 

TIME IN RECENT HISTORY.

 

I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET

 

NEGATIVE QUICKLY.

 

WITHOUT CANDIDATES BEING ABLE TO

 

CONTROL WHAT MESSAGES ARE BEING

 

PUT OUT THERE, THEY'LL COME

 

SWINGING AS MUCH MUD AS THEY

 

CAN.

 

WE'LL SEE HOW THE ELECTORATE

 

DEALS WITH THAT AND HOW THEY

 

REACT.

 

>> WE'VE HAD 11 OR 12 MEN TAKE

 

STATE SENATE RACES AND FOUR

 

WOMEN AS GOVERNOR.

 

>> ABSOLUTELY.

 

ARIZONANS SPECIFICALLY HAVE

 

ALWAYS TAKEN GREAT PRIDE IN THE

 

INDEPENDENT SPIRIT, THAT DATES

 

BACK TO BARRY GOLDWATER AND JOHN

 

McCAIN AND JAN BREWER, SOMEBODY

 

THAT WILL STICK UP AND FIGHT FOR

 

THOSE OR THEY HAVEN'T BEEN

 

FOUGHT FOR AND ESPECIALLY THOSE

 

WILLING TO BUCK THE

 

ESTABLISHMENT, BUCK TRADITIONAL

 

PARTY BELIEFS.

 

I THINK THAT ARIZONA AGAIN HAS

 

AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THE

 

CENTER OF THE NATIONAL

 

SPOTLIGHT.

 

RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKELY WE'LL HAVE

 

TWO FEMALE CANDIDATES.

 

I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A

 

LOT -- THAT WILL BE A HUGE

 

IMPACT FOR LETTING FUTURE

 

ARIZONANS KNOW ANYTHING IS

 

POSSIBLE IN THE STATE.

 

>> ARIZONA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AHEAD

 

OF ITS TIMES WHEN YOU LOOK BACK

 

TO STARTING WITH THE INITIATIVE

 

AND REFERENDUM PROCESS WE

 

ADOPTED AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN

 

LOOKING FOR NEW WAYS OR NEW

 

THINGS TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT

 

GOVERNMENT HERE IN ARIZONA.

 

WE'VE BEEN OPEN TO DIFFERENT

 

IDEALS.

 

HAVING A TIME WHERE YOU'VE HAD

 

FOUR EXECUTIVES BE WOMEN,

 

RECENTLY AND THERE HAS BEEN IN

 

RECENT HISTORY FIVE OF THE TOP

 

STATEWIDE OFFICES HAVE BEEN HELD

 

BY WOMEN AT THE SAME TIME.

 

THAT'S A RARITY AND SOMETHING

 

THAT PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY

 

CONNECT WITH ARIZONA BUT ARIZONA

 

IS UNIQUE.

 

WE ARE SPECIAL AND I THINK -- I

 

AGREE THAT I THINK WE'LL LOOK AT

 

TWO FEMALE CANDIDATES RUNNING

 

FOR SENATE HERE AND IT WILL BE A

 

HISTORICAL ELECTION FOR THAT

 

FACT.

 

>> THAT PROGRESSIVENESS IS WHAT

 

DEMOCRATS SAY WILL SHINE IN

 

2018.

 

THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE

 

ARIZONA DEMOCRATIC PARTY

 

PREDICTS ARIZONA'S POLITICAL

 

LANDSCAPE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE.

 

>> IT IS DEFINITELY AN EXCITING

 

TIME TO BE A DEMOCRAT IN

 

ARIZONA.

 

WE'VE HAD SINCE THE ELECTION OUR

 

PARTICIPATION HAS BEEN THROUGH

 

THE ROOF.

 

I MEAN, WE'VE COUNTY MEETINGS,

 

STANDING ROOM ONLY, USED TO HAVE

 

10 OR 15, NOW HAVE 40 AND 40 OR

 

50 NOW HAVE 300.

 

IT'S BEEN IMPRESSIVE AND

 

EXCITING TO SEE THE

 

PARTICIPATION ON OUR SIDE AND

 

PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE ENGAGED

 

AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN

 

ENGAGED AND ALSO THE PEOPLE THAT

 

WERE NOT NECESSARILY ENGAGED

 

PREVIOUSLY WHO REALIZE THAT THEY

 

HAVE TO BE AND THERE'S NO LONGER

 

AN OPTION FOR THEM TO SIT ON THE

 

SIDELINES AND HOPE THINGS WORK

 

OUT LIKE THEY EXPECT THEM TOO.

 

HAVING DONALD TRUMP ELECTED

 

SHOOK PEOPLE TO THE CORE.

 

>> HISTORICALLY ARIZONA HAS BEEN

 

A REPUBLICAN STRONGHOLD.

 

IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT TO YOU

 

REPRESENTING THE DEMOCRATIC

 

PARTY?

 

>> YES, IN A LOT OF WAYS, WE

 

OBVIOUSLY HAVE WON HERE.

 

REPUBLICANS ARE IN CONTROL

 

CURRENTLY, HAVE BEEN RECENTLY

 

AND I THINK IN A LOT OF WAYS

 

THEY'VE DONE A BAD JOB WHEN IT

 

COMES TO EDUCATION, WE'RE AT THE

 

COMES TO EDUCATION, WE'RE AT THE

 

BOTTOM OF THE COUNTRY AND

 

QUALITY OF LIFE.

 

THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE

 

REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION

 

WHETHER IT'S JUST FOCUSING ON

 

TAX CUTS OR WHATEVER IT IS,

 

THEY'VE -- IT'S BECOME A CULTURE

 

OF CORRUPTION AND THE REST OF

 

THE REPUBLICANS IN OFFICE HERE

 

AND WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES.

 

DEMOCRATS CAN DO BETTER.

 

WE KNOW IT.

 

WE JUST NEED TO PROVE IT TO THE

 

VOTERS.

 

WE CAN BE DO BETTER ONCE WE GET

 

ELECTED.

 

WE JUST NEED TO GET ELECTED TO

 

SHOW IT.

 

>> AN OPEN SEAT COMING UP, WE

 

ALREADY KNOW OF ONE VERY WELL

 

KNOWN CONGRESSWOMAN WHO WILL

 

THROW HER NAME IN THE HAT.

 

ARIZONA THOUGH HAS ALWAYS HAD

 

REPUBLICAN MEN LEAD ARIZONA

 

SENATE.

 

WHAT'S LIKELY TO HAPPEN THIS

 

TIME AROUND?

 

>> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIN

 

THE SENATE SEAT.

 

I MEAN, BECAUSE OF THAT HGT CARE

 

VOTE AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN

 

WASHINGTON, REPUBLICANS ARE

 

FOCUSED ON THE WRONG THINGS,

 

THINGS NOT IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE

 

IN ARIZONA.

 

THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY HEALTH

 

CARE FROM 400,000 PEOPLE AND

 

PASS THE TAX CUT PROBABLY THIS

 

WEEK OR TAX REFORM THIS WEEK

 

THAT WILL HARM MIDDLE CLASS

 

FAMILIES AND THAT'S NOT WHY

 

PEOPLE SEND REPRESENTATIVES TO

 

WASHINGTON.

 

THERE'S A REPUBLICAN CIVIL WAR

 

GOING ON AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL

 

AND IT'S HAPPENING HERE.

 

STEVE BANNON VERSUS MITCH

 

McCONNELL WINGS OF THE

 

REPUBLICAN PARTY.

 

THAT'S THE REASON JEFF FLAKE HAD

 

TO GET OUT OF THE RACE.

 

HE JUST SAW THERE WAS NOT A PATH

 

FOR HIM TO BE VICTORIOUS IN THIS

 

REPUBLICAN CULTURE.

 

>> BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE A

 

DEMOCRAT HAD SECOND

 

CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

 

YOU LIKELY SEE IT PERHAPS

 

RETURNING TO A DEMOCRAT.

 

>> ABSOLUTELY.

 

>> WE HAVE REALLY STRONG

 

CANDIDATES, WE HAVE A VERY

 

VIBRANT PRIMARY.

 

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

 

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF

 

PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION TO

 

WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND

 

WHOEVER REPLACES MARTHA McSALLY

 

ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, ASSUMING

 

SHE IS GOING TO DO WHAT SHE TOLD

 

HER FRIENDS IN WASHINGTON, RUN

 

FOR SENATE, IT'S A CLOWN CAR OF

 

CANDIDATES THERE.

 

THERE'S NOBODY THERE THAT IS

 

REALLY GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE

 

VOTERS OF SOUTHERN ARIZONA.

 

>> DEMOCRATS LOST THE WHITE

 

HOUSE.

 

DOES THAT MEAN THE PARTY IS ALSO

 

LOOKING TO REIDENTIFY ITSELF OR

 

COME TOGETHER?

 

>> IN A LOT OF WAYS YES.

 

WE ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL FOR

 

SURE, WE'RE -- WHAT WE IN

 

ARIZONA WERE ABLE TO DO, WE DID

 

NOT WIN OBVIOUSLY BUT GOT WITHIN

 

THREE POINTS OF WINNING ARIZONA

 

FOR HILLARY CLINTON OVER DONALD

 

TRUMP AND WE'VE WORKED PRETTY

 

WELL WITH OUR DIFFERENT WINGS OF

 

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

 

I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A STORY

 

NATIONALLY IN SOME OF THOSE

 

FIGHTS.

 

DEMOCRATS FROM THE DNC ON DOWN

 

ARE WORKING TO COME TOGETHER

 

BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH AT RISK

 

HERE THAT WE CAN'T HAVE

 

INTERPARTY SQUABBLES.

 

>> TELL ME ABOUT THE VALUES THAT

 

THE DEMOCRATS HOLD SO DEARLY.

 

HOW DO YOU DESCRIBE A DEMOCRAT

 

IN ARIZONA TODAY?

 

>> BASICALLY WE CARE ABOUT

 

TODAY.

 

WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE.

 

WE WANT TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT

 

THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF OUR MOST

 

VULNERABLE.

 

OBVIOUSLY WE CARE ABOUT OUR

 

NATIONAL SECURITY AND THINGS

 

THAT EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT BUT

 

WE REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S THE

 

GOVERNMENT'S JOB TO MAKE SURE

 

THAT OUR MOST VULNERABLE IN

 

SOCIETY ARE NOT LEVEL BEHIND.

 

>> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

 

AISLE, REPUBLICANS SAY ARIZONA

 

IS A CONSERVATIVE STRONGHOLD AND

 

IT WILL STAY THAT WAY COME NEXT

 

NOVEMBER.

 

HERE'S TORE RENS SINCLAIR OF THE

 

ARIZONA REPUBLICAN PARTY.

 

>> TELL ME WHERE THE PARTY IS

 

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO THE NEXT

 

CYCLE.

 

>> THE PARTY IS IN A GREAT

 

PLACE, LOOK AT VOTER

 

REGISTRATION NUMBERS,

 

INCREASING.

 

RIGHT NOW WE'RE BEATING

 

DEMOCRATS 55-1 MARGIN IN VOTER

 

REGISTRATION.

 

SINCE JANUARY YOU'VE SEEN US

 

REGISTER A LITTLE OVER ALMOST

 

9,000 VOTERS, WE'VE REGISTERED

 

8,792 COMPARED TO THE DEMOCRATS

 

161.

 

THEY'VE NETTED 161 NEW VOTER

 

REGISTRATIONS SINCE JANUARY.

 

>> WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT,

 

PRESIDENT TRUMP?

 

>> IT'S THE MOMENTUM.

 

YOU EE THE MOMENTUM FROM THE

 

REPUBLICAN PARTY, DONE ADD TRUMP

 

IS WELL LIKED ARIZONA AND SEE

 

PEOPLE WANTING A CHANGE.

 

THEY SEE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS

 

BEING THE CATALYST FOR THAT

 

CHANGE.

 

>> JEFF FLAKE HAS ANNOUNCED THAT

 

HE'S FINISHED WITH THE SENATE.

 

NOW WE HEAR THAT CONGRESSWOMAN

 

MARTHA McSALLY MAY BE INTERESTED

 

IN THAT SPOT.

 

I THINK IT CREATES A DOMINO

 

SITUATION.

 

WAS IN LINE FOR REPUBLICANS HERE

 

IN ARIZONA?

 

>> SO, I MEAN, REPRESENTATIVE

 

McSALLY HASN'T ANNOUNCED YET SO

 

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPECULATE ON

 

THAT.

 

YOU LOOK AT CD 2 AND MARTHA

 

McSALLY AND CD2, LOOK AT THE

 

LAST ELECTION IN 2016 AND SHE

 

WON THAT ELECTION BY 14 POINTS.

 

YOU ALSO SAW THAT JOHN McCAIN

 

BEAT ANN KIRKPATRICK AS WELL

 

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS

 

AND ANN KIRKPATRICK IS CURRENTLY

 

RUNNING FOR CONGRESS IN THAT

 

DISTRICT.

 

I THINK NO MATTER WHAT

 

REPUBLICAN RUNS IN A CD2 RACE,

 

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT PERSON

 

WIN.

 

>> ALWAYS HAD REPUBLICAN MEN

 

SERVE IN THE SENATE TO REPRESENT

 

ARIZONA.

 

IS THAT LIKELY TO CONTINUE?

 

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW

 

THERE'S A LOT OF FEMALES IN THE

 

RACE.

 

NO MATTER -- DOESN'T MATTER IF

 

YOU'RE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT,

 

THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.

 

I WOULD BET YOU SEE A FEMALE IN

 

THE SENATE IN 2018.

 

>> YOU SAID THE REPUBLICANS HAVE

 

MOMENTUM.

 

WHAT DOES THE PARTY NEED TO DO

 

TO KEEP THAT MOMENTUM AS -- THIS

 

STARTS THE ELECTION CYCLE PRETTY

 

EARLY.

 

>> WE'RE DOING WHAT WE ALWAYS

 

DO.

 

WE'RE GOING TO REGISTER VOTERS

 

AND TURN PEOPLE OUT AND KEEP

 

TALKING TO NEW REPUBLICANS.

 

THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE US DO AND

 

WHAT YOU SEE US DO UNTIL THERE

 

IS A GOP NOMINEE IN 2018.

 

>> YOU'LL SEE US REALLY START TO

 

ENGAGE WITH THOSE CANDIDATES IN

 

AUGUST OF 2018.

 

>> HEARD A LOT OF POLITICAL

 

PUNDITS SAY THERE'S FRACTURING

 

IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

 

DO YOU SEE THAT HERE IN ARIZONA?

 

>> I THINK YOU LOOK AT OUR

 

STATEWIDE ELECTIONS AND YOU GO

 

BACK TO AT LEAST 2010, DEMOCRATS

 

IN ARIZONA HAVEN'T HELD A

 

STATEWIDE OFFICE SINCE 20 -- I

 

BELIEVE 2010.

 

AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU

 

LOOK AT THE REALLY TOUGH GOP

 

PRIMARIES THAT WE HAVE AND I

 

THINK YOU KNOW, YOU CAN

 

ATTRIBUTE OUR TOUGH GOP

 

PRIMARIES TO US WINNING IN THE

 

GENERALS.

 

YOU LOOK AT 2010 AND JAN BREWER

 

HAD A PRIMARY CHALLENGE AND LOOK

 

AT 2012 AND OPEN SENATE SEAT AND

 

JEFF FLAKE WON IN A GENERAL.

 

AND 2014 AND 2014 HAD A PRETTY

 

TOUGH GOVERNOR'S RACE.

 

INCUMBENT GOVERNOR JAN BREWER

 

ENDORSED IN THE PRIMARY AND DID

 

NOT SEE A TOUGH DEMOCRAT PRIMARY

 

ON THAT SIDE AND WE WON IN THE

 

GENERAL.

 

YOU LOOK AT THAT FOR SECRETARY

 

OF STATE AND FOR ATTORNEY

 

GENERAL, YOU LOOK AT THAT FOR

 

THE TREASURER'S RACE AS WELL.

 

WE ALWAYS WIN.

 

YOU SEE THAT IN 2016 AS WELL.

 

I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO TURN

 

OUT AND GOING TO TURN OUT OUR

 

PEOPLE AND TURN OUT REPUBLICANS

 

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A

 

TOUGH PRIMARY RACE IN 2018,

 

YOU'LL SEE US WIN.

 

>> TELL ME ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN

 

PARTY.

 

SENATOR FLAKE HIMSELF SAID THAT

 

I CAN'T CONTINUE THIS WAY WITH

 

THIS PRESIDENT.

 

SO WHAT DO REPUBLICANS STAND

 

FOR?

 

>> YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY

 

SPEAK TO SENATOR FLAKE AND

 

HIS -- THE WAY HE VIEWS HIS

 

CAMPAIGN MOVING FORWARD BUT I

 

THINK OF COURSE THERE'S ROOM FOR

 

EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT

 

CONSIDERS THEMSELVES A

 

REPUBLICAN IN THE REPUBLICAN

 

PARTY.

 

WE ARE VERY BIG -- OFTEN TIMES

 

YOU SEE REPUBLICANS THAT DON'T

 

AGREE WITH EACH OTHER BUT AT

 

LEAST IN ARIZONA, WE WIN.

 

>> OTHER NEWS NOW, A NATIONAL

 

STORY HITTING CLOSE TO HOME.

 

AN ARIZONA LAWMAKER SUSPENDED

 

FROM HIS LEADERSHIP POSITION

 

AFTER MULTIPLE ALLEGATIONS OF

 

SEXUAL HARASSMENT,

 

REPRESENTATIVE DON SHUTER, IS

 

TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED FROM

 

POSITION OF CHAIRMAN OF THE

 

HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE,

 

THE COMMITTEE THAT DRAFTS THE

 

BUDGET.

 

THE EDITOR AND PUBLISHER OF THE

 

ARIZONA CAPITAL TIMES NOW WITH

 

MORE ON THE POSSIBLE POLITICAL

 

FALLOUT.

 

>> THAT MEANS THAT THE HOUSE

 

LEADERSHIP RECOGNIZED THE

 

GRAVITY OF THE ALLEGATIONS

 

AGAINST HIM, ACKNOWLEDGED WITH

 

THOSE TYPE ALLEGATIONS IT WOULD

 

BE HARD FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT

 

COMMITTEE TO DO ITS WORK AND

 

THAT IT IS BETTER IF DON SHUTER

 

IS SOMEWHAT -- I WOULDN'T SAY

 

SEVERED BUT THERE'S DISTANCE

 

BETWEEN HIM AND THE COMMITTEE.

 

>> HERE WE ARE IN NOVEMBER.

 

WHERE DOES THIS TAKE IT COME

 

JANUARY?

 

>> YOU'LL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION

 

MOVING FORWARD.

 

THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY YOU'LL

 

HAVE MORE WOMEN COME OUT AND SAY

 

THIS HAPPENED TO ME TOO AT THE

 

STATE CAPITOL.

 

ALREADY WE HAVE THE HOUSE

 

REPRESENTATIVES COMING OUT WITH

 

ITS POLICY HOW TO DEAL WITH

 

SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

 

IN THE SENATE HE HAD TO DIG UP A

 

POLICY COME UP WITH MANY, MANY

 

YEARS AGO AND NOW THERE ARE

 

ATTORNEYS THERE IN THE STATE

 

SENATE LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT

 

AND ASKING DOES IT NEED TO BE

 

UPDATED.

 

>> WILL THIS DISTRACT FROM WHAT

 

NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE COME THE

 

FIRST PART OF THE YEAR?

 

>> I WOULDN'T CALL IT A

 

DISTRACTION.

 

HE THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT

 

DISCUSSION TO HAVE.

 

AND NOW IS A BETTER TIME TO HAVE

 

THIS DISCUSSION.

 

BUT IT WILL BE SOMETHING THEY

 

WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND THEY

 

HAVE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO DEAL

 

WITH THIS AND ADDRESS THIS AND

 

AT THE SAME TIME DO THEIR

 

REGULAR RESPONSIBILITIES.

 

YOU KNOW, REALLY THEY ONLY HAVE

 

ONE BIG ASSIGNMENT AND THAT IS

 

TO PRODUCE A BUDGET FOR NEXT

 

YEAR.

 

AND AS LONG AS THEY ARE ABLE TO

 

DO THAT AND I HAVE NO REASON TO

 

BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE

 

ABLE TO DO THAT --

 

>> REPRESENT SHUTER, LONG

 

RUNNING IN THE ARIZONA HOUSE,

 

DOES THIS RUN OF RISK OF

 

DAMAGING HIS CREDIBILITY AND

 

DAMAGING CREDIBILITY OF THE

 

HOUSE.

 

>> IT DAMAGES HIS CREDIBILITY,

 

NO DOUBT.

 

AND NOW HE'S NOT ABLE TO DO HIS

 

JOB AS A CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE

 

APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.

 

BUT I WANT TO SHIFT IT RATHER

 

THAN FOCUS ON HOW MUCH DAMAGE IT

 

HAS TO HIM OR HIS CREDIBILITY OR

 

HIS POLITICAL CAREER, REALLY THE

 

CONVERSATION IN MY MIND IS THAT

 

WE HAVE A CULTURE IN THE STATE

 

LEGISLATURE THAT WANT TO CALL IT

 

A GOOD BOYS CLUB CULTURE.

 

AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO NOT

 

NECESSARILY RECONSIDER THAT, BUT

 

TAKE SERIOUSLY WHERE THAT HAS

 

BROUGHT US AND WHAT KIND OF

 

CULTURE OUR CLIMATE CREATED FOR

 

WOMEN WORKING IN THE STATE

 

CAPITOL.

 

WHETHER YOU'RE A LOBBYIST OR

 

INTERN OR JUST SOMEBODY WHO IS

 

ADVOCATING FOR YOUR INTEREST.

 

>> MOVING BEYOND THAT

 

DISCUSSION, ARIZONA HAS BECOME

 

IN THE NATIONAL POLITICAL

 

SPOTLIGHT WITH NEWS OF A SENATOR

 

VACATING HIS SEAT, QUITE

 

POSSIBLY A CONGRESSIONAL

 

DISTRICT.

 

WHAT DOES THAT SAY FOR THE NEXT

 

CYCLE?

 

>> CANDIDLY WE COULD HAVE TWO

 

U.S. SENATE SEATS OPEN UP FOR

 

VACANCIES NEXT YEAR.

 

IF THAT HAPPENS AND THERE ARE

 

SOME WHO BELIEVE THAT MIGHT

 

HAPPEN, IF THAT HAPPENS, WE

 

ALREADY HAVE ONE SEAT THAT'S

 

GOING TO BE VACANT, JEFF

 

FLAKE'S.

 

WE KNOW SENATOR McCAIN IS

 

BATTLING CANCER.

 

IF HE DOES FOR EXAMPLE STEP

 

DOWN, MANY ARE SAYING THAT YOU

 

COULD HAVE A STRUCTURAL CHANGE

 

IN THE POLITICAL SCENE IN

 

ARIZONA.

 

YOU COULD HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF

 

CONGRESSIONAL INCUMBENTS LOOK AT

 

EITHER ONE OF THOSE SENATE SEATS

 

AND IF THEY VACATE THE SEATS,

 

THE ONE FOR THE U.S. SENATE,

 

YOU'LL HAVE LAWMAKERS AND

 

MAYORS, COUNSELORS AND COUNTY

 

SUPERVISORS LOOKING AT

 

CONGRESSIONAL RACES AND IF THEY

 

VACATED THEIR SEATS, THEN

 

SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO FILL

 

THOSE POSITIONS.

 

SO YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT

 

SCHOOL BOARDS.

 

MAYBE EVEN THE IRRIGATION

 

DISTRICTS, WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE

 

COMING IN AND SO SHOULD THAT

 

HAPPEN, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE

 

SEEING THIS STRUCTURAL CHANGE IN

 

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN,

 

YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE SO MANY OF

 

THEM VACATING THEIR SEATS

 

POTENTIALLY, THAT YOU'LL HAVE A

 

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.

 

YOU'RE SEEING THAT IN THE CITY

 

OF PHOENIX, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH

 

KIRSTEN CINEMA VACATING HER

 

SEATS, NOW THERE ARE A COUPLE OF

 

THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS RUNNING

 

FOR HIS SEAT.

 

THOSE SEATS HAVE TO COME FROM

 

SOMEWHERE.

 

YOU COULD HAVE VACANCIES IN THE

 

STATE LEGISLATURE OR OPEN SEATS

 

IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

 

AS ONE LOBBYIST AND CONSULTANT

 

PUT THE OTHER DAY, YOU'RE NOT

 

LOOKING AT ONE TSUNAMI, YOU'VE

 

LOOKING AT FIVE OF THEM.

 

>> THAT'S OUR SHOW THIS WEEK.

 

BEFORE WE GO, A QUICK

 

ANNOUNCEMENT, I'LL BE LEAVING

 

THE HOST SEAT FOR THE NEXT TWO

 

WEEKS AS WE RETOOL FOR A NEW

 

PUBLIC AFFAIRS SHOW THAT WILL

 

LAUNCH IN JANUARY.

 

IN THE MEANTIME STAY TUNED FOR

 

MORE EPISODES IN DECEMBER.