WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:10.309 . >>> AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE 00:10.311 --> 00:12.077 >>> AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE TEMPORARY HOME OF NEARLY A 00:12.079 --> 00:14.480 TEMPORARY HOME OF NEARLY A THOUSAND UNDOCUMENTED CHILDREN 00:14.482 --> 00:15.414 THOUSAND UNDOCUMENTED CHILDREN FROM CENTRAL AMERICA. 00:15.416 --> 00:17.282 FROM CENTRAL AMERICA. >> WE'RE KIND OF GOING TO SEE 00:17.284 --> 00:19.284 >> WE'RE KIND OF GOING TO SEE WHAT THE AGENCY IS GOING TO DO. 00:19.286 --> 00:20.786 WHAT THE AGENCY IS GOING TO DO. >> FEW QUESTIONS ASKED WITH 00:20.788 --> 00:22.221 >> FEW QUESTIONS ASKED WITH LIMITED ANSWERS, WHY ARE THE 00:22.223 --> 00:25.190 LIMITED ANSWERS, WHY ARE THE CHILDREN COMING AND WHAT IS NEXT 00:25.192 --> 00:25.657 CHILDREN COMING AND WHAT IS NEXT FOR THEM. 00:25.659 --> 00:28.127 FOR THEM. >> I THINK A LOT OF THIS WAS -- 00:28.129 --> 00:29.461 >> I THINK A LOT OF THIS WAS -- I THINK IT WAS PLANNED BECAUSE 00:29.463 --> 00:30.996 I THINK IT WAS PLANNED BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY KIDS 00:30.998 --> 00:33.565 WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY KIDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY TURNING 00:33.567 --> 00:34.700 THAT ARE ACTUALLY TURNING THEMSELVES OVER TO BORDER 00:34.702 --> 00:35.034 THEMSELVES OVER TO BORDER PATROL. 00:35.036 --> 00:35.968 PATROL. AND IN ADDITION WHEN THEY'RE 00:35.970 --> 00:37.369 AND IN ADDITION WHEN THEY'RE DOING ARRESTED THEY ALREADY HAVE 00:37.371 --> 00:38.937 DOING ARRESTED THEY ALREADY HAVE PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY 00:38.939 --> 00:39.972 PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES. 00:39.974 --> 00:43.142 MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES. >> ALONG FOR BORDER IN NOGALES, 00:43.144 --> 00:51.583 >> ALONG FOR BORDER IN NOGALES, THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 00:51.585 --> 00:53.986 THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." IT HAS BEEN TWO WEEKS SINCE 00:53.988 --> 00:55.187 IT HAS BEEN TWO WEEKS SINCE HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN BEGAN 00:55.189 --> 00:57.089 HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN BEGAN ARRIVING IN NOGALES FOR 00:57.091 --> 00:57.489 ARRIVING IN NOGALES FOR PROCESSING. 00:57.491 --> 01:00.359 PROCESSING. THE CHILDREN UNDOCUMENTED 01:00.361 --> 01:01.427 THE CHILDREN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, THE MAJORITY FROM 01:01.429 --> 01:03.095 IMMIGRANTS, THE MAJORITY FROM CENTRAL AMERICA CROSSED INTO THE 01:03.097 --> 01:04.229 CENTRAL AMERICA CROSSED INTO THE U.S. THROUGH TEXAS. 01:04.231 --> 01:05.764 U.S. THROUGH TEXAS. IMMIGRATION FACILITIES THERE, 01:05.766 --> 01:07.533 IMMIGRATION FACILITIES THERE, THOUGH, UNABLE TO HANDLE THE 01:07.535 --> 01:08.000 THOUGH, UNABLE TO HANDLE THE INFLUX. 01:08.002 --> 01:09.568 INFLUX. SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS 01:09.570 --> 01:12.171 SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TRANSPORTING MANY OF THE 01:12.173 --> 01:13.639 TRANSPORTING MANY OF THE CHILDREN TO NOGALES. 01:13.641 --> 01:15.274 CHILDREN TO NOGALES. THIS PAST WEDNESDAY, THE 01:15.276 --> 01:16.008 THIS PAST WEDNESDAY, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY 01:16.010 --> 01:17.843 DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY ALLOWED MEMBERS OF THE PRESS 01:17.845 --> 01:20.179 ALLOWED MEMBERS OF THE PRESS INTO WHAT THE AGENCY CALLED A 01:20.181 --> 01:22.181 INTO WHAT THE AGENCY CALLED A TRANSITION POINT. 01:22.183 --> 01:24.383 TRANSITION POINT. >> DHS JUST ALLOWED THE MEDIA IN 01:24.385 --> 01:28.454 >> DHS JUST ALLOWED THE MEDIA IN ON A TOUR, I'M JOINED BY MY 01:28.456 --> 01:29.988 ON A TOUR, I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE FROM ARIZONA PUBLIC 01:29.990 --> 01:32.624 COLLEAGUE FROM ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA, AND ALSO FROM THE ARIZONA 01:32.626 --> 01:34.426 MEDIA, AND ALSO FROM THE ARIZONA DAILY STAR, LADIES, THANK YOU SO 01:34.428 --> 01:34.726 DAILY STAR, LADIES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 01:34.728 --> 01:36.528 MUCH. LET'S START WITH YOU, TALKING 01:36.530 --> 01:38.230 LET'S START WITH YOU, TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE IMAGES WE SAW 01:38.232 --> 01:38.530 ABOUT SOME OF THE IMAGES WE SAW THERE. 01:38.532 --> 01:40.365 THERE. THE CHILDREN LOOKING AT US YET 01:40.367 --> 01:42.501 THE CHILDREN LOOKING AT US YET WE COULD NOT TALK TO THEM. 01:42.503 --> 01:44.536 WE COULD NOT TALK TO THEM. >> YES, IF WE WALKED IN, FIRST 01:44.538 --> 01:46.405 >> YES, IF WE WALKED IN, FIRST OUTSIDE THE FACILITY THERE WAS 01:46.407 --> 01:47.439 OUTSIDE THE FACILITY THERE WAS THE RECREATION AREA. 01:47.441 --> 01:49.208 THE RECREATION AREA. SOME OF THE KIDS WERE PLAYING. 01:49.210 --> 01:51.443 SOME OF THE KIDS WERE PLAYING. BUT AS WE WALKED IN, WE WALKED 01:51.445 --> 01:53.579 BUT AS WE WALKED IN, WE WALKED RIGHT BY THE IN-TAKE AREA AND 01:53.581 --> 01:54.613 RIGHT BY THE IN-TAKE AREA AND THE DETENTION AREA. 01:54.615 --> 01:56.715 THE DETENTION AREA. AND SOME OF THEM HAD KIND OF A 01:56.717 --> 01:57.416 AND SOME OF THEM HAD KIND OF A SAD EXPRESSION. 01:57.418 --> 01:58.584 SAD EXPRESSION. THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE 01:58.586 --> 01:59.918 THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE PLAYING SOCCER AND PLAYING WITH 01:59.920 --> 02:01.520 PLAYING SOCCER AND PLAYING WITH THE BALL AND LAUGHING. 02:01.522 --> 02:03.122 THE BALL AND LAUGHING. ONE KID WAVED AT US. 02:03.124 --> 02:05.023 ONE KID WAVED AT US. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WONDER WHAT 02:05.025 --> 02:07.259 BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WONDER WHAT THE STORIES BEHIND THOSE FACES 02:07.261 --> 02:07.526 THE STORIES BEHIND THOSE FACES ARE. 02:07.528 --> 02:08.994 ARE. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? 02:08.996 --> 02:10.629 WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? WHAT HAVE THEY EXPERIENCED? 02:10.631 --> 02:11.763 WHAT HAVE THEY EXPERIENCED? AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE NOT 02:11.765 --> 02:13.866 AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE NOT ABLE TO TALK TO ANY OF THEM OR 02:13.868 --> 02:16.935 ABLE TO TALK TO ANY OF THEM OR WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED WITH 02:16.937 --> 02:17.236 WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED WITH THEM. 02:17.238 --> 02:20.739 THEM. >> AND CARLA, YOU AND I BEING 02:20.741 --> 02:21.540 >> AND CARLA, YOU AND I BEING MOTHERS, IT IS ESPECIALLY 02:21.542 --> 02:23.976 MOTHERS, IT IS ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE THE LITTLE 02:23.978 --> 02:25.577 DIFFICULT TO SEE THE LITTLE FACES THERE WITHOUT THEIR 02:25.579 --> 02:25.944 FACES THERE WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS. 02:25.946 --> 02:27.646 PARENTS. >> EXACTLY, BECAUSE AS A 02:27.648 --> 02:28.647 >> EXACTLY, BECAUSE AS A JOURNALIST, YOU'RE A MOTHER 02:28.649 --> 02:29.047 JOURNALIST, YOU'RE A MOTHER FIRST. 02:29.049 --> 02:31.250 FIRST. THAT IS HOW I ALWAYS WRITE MY 02:31.252 --> 02:31.583 THAT IS HOW I ALWAYS WRITE MY STORIES. 02:31.585 --> 02:33.952 STORIES. AS A MOTHER, AND YOU SEE THESE 02:33.954 --> 02:35.921 AS A MOTHER, AND YOU SEE THESE LITTLE CHILDREN AND YOU DON'T 02:35.923 --> 02:36.722 LITTLE CHILDREN AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE 02:36.724 --> 02:37.089 UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE THINKING. 02:37.091 --> 02:39.224 THINKING. AND I WAS LOOKING AT THIS LITTLE 02:39.226 --> 02:41.527 AND I WAS LOOKING AT THIS LITTLE GIRL, SHE WAS LAYING DOWN, I 02:41.529 --> 02:43.462 GIRL, SHE WAS LAYING DOWN, I WANTED TO GIVE HER A SMILE, SO 02:43.464 --> 02:45.230 WANTED TO GIVE HER A SMILE, SO SHE GAVE ME A SMILE BACK. 02:45.232 --> 02:46.398 SHE GAVE ME A SMILE BACK. I FELT GOOD ABOUT THAT. 02:46.400 --> 02:48.333 I FELT GOOD ABOUT THAT. AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT I SEE 02:48.335 --> 02:50.302 AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT I SEE A 2-YEAR-OLD, THEN I SEE ANOTHER 02:50.304 --> 02:52.437 A 2-YEAR-OLD, THEN I SEE ANOTHER BABY, AND THEN I SEE A PREGNANT 02:52.439 --> 02:52.738 BABY, AND THEN I SEE A PREGNANT GIRL. 02:52.740 --> 02:54.606 GIRL. AND THEN I'M LIKE OH, MY 02:54.608 --> 02:56.441 AND THEN I'M LIKE OH, MY GOODNESS, THIS IS WAY OUT OF 02:56.443 --> 02:58.544 GOODNESS, THIS IS WAY OUT OF HAND AND WE HAVE THEM IN THESE 02:58.546 --> 02:58.944 HAND AND WE HAVE THEM IN THESE CONDITIONS. 02:58.946 --> 03:00.612 CONDITIONS. TALKING ABOUT THE CONDITIONS, 03:00.614 --> 03:02.614 TALKING ABOUT THE CONDITIONS, THEY'RE NOT BAD, THEY HAVE 03:02.616 --> 03:03.949 THEY'RE NOT BAD, THEY HAVE MATTRESSES AND OTHER THINGS IN 03:03.951 --> 03:05.918 MATTRESSES AND OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE MAKING THE STAY A 03:05.920 --> 03:06.885 THERE THAT ARE MAKING THE STAY A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 03:06.887 --> 03:09.288 LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT STILL, THEY'RE CHILDREN 03:09.290 --> 03:11.056 BUT STILL, THEY'RE CHILDREN BEHIND BARS, THAT BREAKS MY 03:11.058 --> 03:11.390 BEHIND BARS, THAT BREAKS MY HEART. 03:11.392 --> 03:12.958 HEART. >> AND START US OFF ON THIS. 03:12.960 --> 03:14.526 >> AND START US OFF ON THIS. WE STARTED OUTSIDE AND WENT 03:14.528 --> 03:14.860 WE STARTED OUTSIDE AND WENT INSIDE. 03:14.862 --> 03:17.329 INSIDE. >> WE DID, AS SHE SAID, THERE 03:17.331 --> 03:18.764 >> WE DID, AS SHE SAID, THERE WAS AN OUTSIDE AREA SET UP. 03:18.766 --> 03:22.601 WAS AN OUTSIDE AREA SET UP. A LITTLE TENT, THERE WERE SOCCER 03:22.603 --> 03:26.972 A LITTLE TENT, THERE WERE SOCCER BALLS, THEY HAVE HULA HOOPS. 03:26.974 --> 03:30.509 BALLS, THEY HAVE HULA HOOPS. A LITTLE GIRL WAS PLAYING, AND I 03:30.511 --> 03:33.212 A LITTLE GIRL WAS PLAYING, AND I SAW AN AGENT PLAYING SOCCER WITH 03:33.214 --> 03:35.981 SAW AN AGENT PLAYING SOCCER WITH THEM WHILE SHE WAS WEARING HER 03:35.983 --> 03:36.915 THEM WHILE SHE WAS WEARING HER LATEX GLOVES. 03:36.917 --> 03:38.150 LATEX GLOVES. AND WE SAW THE INDIVIDUAL 03:38.152 --> 03:40.085 AND WE SAW THE INDIVIDUAL SHOWERS IN THE TRAILERS SO THE 03:40.087 --> 03:41.920 SHOWERS IN THE TRAILERS SO THE KIDS DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF 03:41.922 --> 03:42.254 KIDS DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PRIVACY. 03:42.256 --> 03:46.024 PRIVACY. WE GET TO SEE THE MAKESHIFT SORT 03:46.026 --> 03:47.693 WE GET TO SEE THE MAKESHIFT SORT OF LAUNDROMAT THEY PUT OUT IN 03:47.695 --> 03:49.494 OF LAUNDROMAT THEY PUT OUT IN ONE OF THE TRAILERS. 03:49.496 --> 03:51.430 ONE OF THE TRAILERS. AS SHE MENTIONED WE SAW THE 03:51.432 --> 03:52.064 AS SHE MENTIONED WE SAW THE IN-TAKE AREA. 03:52.066 --> 03:54.900 IN-TAKE AREA. AND YOU GOT TO SEE THE KIDS, WHO 03:54.902 --> 03:55.200 AND YOU GOT TO SEE THE KIDS, WHO GOT. 03:55.202 --> 03:57.269 GOT. >> THE KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE 03:57.271 --> 03:59.438 >> THE KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE IN A WHILE, MOST OF THEM WORE 03:59.440 --> 04:00.973 IN A WHILE, MOST OF THEM WORE THE CLOTHES THAT THEY CAME IN. 04:00.975 --> 04:03.275 THE CLOTHES THAT THEY CAME IN. A LOT OF OTHER KIDS, WE LEARNED 04:03.277 --> 04:04.876 A LOT OF OTHER KIDS, WE LEARNED -- AT LEAST I DIDN'T KNOW THEY 04:04.878 --> 04:06.511 -- AT LEAST I DIDN'T KNOW THEY PUT THEM IN UNIFORMS. 04:06.513 --> 04:07.846 PUT THEM IN UNIFORMS. THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING THEM NAVY 04:07.848 --> 04:09.381 THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING THEM NAVY BLUE KIND OF BASKETBALL SHORTS 04:09.383 --> 04:11.550 BLUE KIND OF BASKETBALL SHORTS AND A WHITE T-SHIRT. 04:11.552 --> 04:13.385 AND A WHITE T-SHIRT. SO THE KIDS THERE DRESSED LIKE 04:13.387 --> 04:14.519 SO THE KIDS THERE DRESSED LIKE THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH 04:14.521 --> 04:16.221 THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE SHOWERS AND HAVE ALREADY 04:16.223 --> 04:18.056 THE SHOWERS AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN HERE AT LEAST -- THE KIDS 04:18.058 --> 04:19.191 BEEN HERE AT LEAST -- THE KIDS THAT JUST GOT HERE. 04:19.193 --> 04:21.526 THAT JUST GOT HERE. WE GOT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT WHERE 04:21.528 --> 04:22.461 WE GOT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT WHERE THEY'RE EATING. 04:22.463 --> 04:24.997 THEY'RE EATING. THE TWO SITTING AREAS, EACH AREA 04:24.999 --> 04:27.666 THE TWO SITTING AREAS, EACH AREA HOLDS ABOUT 200 KIDS, WHERE THEY 04:27.668 --> 04:29.301 HOLDS ABOUT 200 KIDS, WHERE THEY EAT BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER. 04:29.303 --> 04:31.670 EAT BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER. WE ALSO GOT TO SEE -- I REMEMBER 04:31.672 --> 04:33.038 WE ALSO GOT TO SEE -- I REMEMBER LOOKING RIGHT BY THE EATING 04:33.040 --> 04:34.506 LOOKING RIGHT BY THE EATING AREA, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF 04:34.508 --> 04:35.474 AREA, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF WATER BOTTLES. 04:35.476 --> 04:37.609 WATER BOTTLES. I SAW HUNDREDS OF LITTLE GOLD 04:37.611 --> 04:39.778 I SAW HUNDREDS OF LITTLE GOLD FISH CRACKERS FOR THE KIDS. 04:39.780 --> 04:41.380 FISH CRACKERS FOR THE KIDS. WE GOT TO SEE. 04:41.382 --> 04:43.215 WE GOT TO SEE. IT WAS A RESTRICTED TOUR. 04:43.217 --> 04:44.983 IT WAS A RESTRICTED TOUR. AS THEY SAID, WE DIDN'T GET TO 04:44.985 --> 04:47.052 AS THEY SAID, WE DIDN'T GET TO TALK TO THE KIDS BUT WE GOT TO 04:47.054 --> 04:48.687 TALK TO THE KIDS BUT WE GOT TO SEE PART OF WHERE THEY WERE. 04:48.689 --> 04:51.023 SEE PART OF WHERE THEY WERE. ONE THING THAT STUCK WITH ME WAS 04:51.025 --> 04:52.891 ONE THING THAT STUCK WITH ME WAS A LITTLE BOY CLOSER TO THE 04:52.893 --> 04:53.558 A LITTLE BOY CLOSER TO THE IN-TAKE AREA. 04:53.560 --> 04:55.193 IN-TAKE AREA. BY THE WAY, THEY REMOVED ALL THE 04:55.195 --> 04:57.062 BY THE WAY, THEY REMOVED ALL THE SHOE LACES FROM ALL OF THEIR 04:57.064 --> 04:57.362 SHOE LACES FROM ALL OF THEIR SHOES. 04:57.364 --> 05:00.432 SHOES. AND THIS LITTLE BOY WAS ABOUT 10 05:00.434 --> 05:02.000 AND THIS LITTLE BOY WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD WITH HIS FOREHEAD 05:02.002 --> 05:04.102 YEARS OLD WITH HIS FOREHEAD LEANED UP THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, 05:04.104 --> 05:04.936 LEANED UP THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, AND WAS CRYING. 05:04.938 --> 05:08.006 AND WAS CRYING. AND IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES FOR A 05:08.008 --> 05:09.207 AND IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES FOR A FEMALE BORDER PATROL AGENT TO GO 05:09.209 --> 05:10.409 FEMALE BORDER PATROL AGENT TO GO AND TALK TO HIM. 05:10.411 --> 05:14.379 AND TALK TO HIM. BUT IT DOES PUT THIS WHOLE THING 05:14.381 --> 05:16.815 BUT IT DOES PUT THIS WHOLE THING IN PERSPECTIVE, ONCE YOU SEE 05:16.817 --> 05:17.115 IN PERSPECTIVE, ONCE YOU SEE THEM. 05:17.117 --> 05:18.750 THEM. >> AND WE DO KNOW THEY'RE TRYING 05:18.752 --> 05:20.986 >> AND WE DO KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AS WELL AS 05:20.988 --> 05:21.486 TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AS WELL AS THEY CAN. 05:21.488 --> 05:23.955 THEY CAN. THEY'RE CHANGING THE FOOD, AND 05:23.957 --> 05:25.657 THEY'RE CHANGING THE FOOD, AND IF YOU WOULD TAKE US BACK INTO 05:25.659 --> 05:27.426 IF YOU WOULD TAKE US BACK INTO WHEN YOU JUST SEE THAT MASS 05:27.428 --> 05:28.994 WHEN YOU JUST SEE THAT MASS AMOUNT OF CHILDREN. 05:28.996 --> 05:30.896 AMOUNT OF CHILDREN. AND THEN THE FOIL SHEETS, VERY 05:30.898 --> 05:31.930 AND THEN THE FOIL SHEETS, VERY THIN MATTRESSES. 05:31.932 --> 05:33.465 THIN MATTRESSES. YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THINK THIS 05:33.467 --> 05:36.134 YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THINK THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE. 05:36.136 --> 05:39.137 IS A HUGE ISSUE. >> THE MATTRESSES WERE ABOUT 05:39.139 --> 05:41.273 >> THE MATTRESSES WERE ABOUT FOUR INCHES BIG, BEFORE THAT 05:41.275 --> 05:43.408 FOUR INCHES BIG, BEFORE THAT THEY WERE SLEEPING ON PLASTIC 05:43.410 --> 05:45.544 THEY WERE SLEEPING ON PLASTIC COTS AND THE MATTRESSES CAME IN 05:45.546 --> 05:45.844 COTS AND THE MATTRESSES CAME IN LATER. 05:45.846 --> 05:48.547 LATER. BUT YOU WALK IN THE IN-TAKE 05:48.549 --> 05:48.847 BUT YOU WALK IN THE IN-TAKE AREA. 05:48.849 --> 05:49.781 AREA. YOU HARDLY SEE CONCRETE. 05:49.783 --> 05:51.116 YOU HARDLY SEE CONCRETE. IT WAS BASICALLY ALL COVER. 05:51.118 --> 05:54.119 IT WAS BASICALLY ALL COVER. AND THE MATTRESSES HAVE A BORDER 05:54.121 --> 05:55.120 AND THE MATTRESSES HAVE A BORDER PATROL GREEN COVER. 05:55.122 --> 05:58.557 PATROL GREEN COVER. AND SO YOU HAVE KIND OF ALL OF 05:58.559 --> 05:58.957 AND SO YOU HAVE KIND OF ALL OF THIS GREEN. 05:58.959 --> 06:00.392 THIS GREEN. AND SOME OF THE KIDS LAYING 06:00.394 --> 06:00.692 AND SOME OF THE KIDS LAYING DOWN. 06:00.694 --> 06:01.960 DOWN. BUT IT DOES TELL YOU THE 06:01.962 --> 06:03.195 BUT IT DOES TELL YOU THE MAGNITUDE OF THE AREA BECAUSE OF 06:03.197 --> 06:03.895 MAGNITUDE OF THE AREA BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. 06:03.897 --> 06:06.531 THE PROBLEM. THIS AREA OF THE KIDS BEING 06:06.533 --> 06:07.733 THIS AREA OF THE KIDS BEING TRANSFERRED FROM TEXAS, WE HEARD 06:07.735 --> 06:09.534 TRANSFERRED FROM TEXAS, WE HEARD THAT THEY'RE COMING TO TUCSON, 06:09.536 --> 06:11.970 THAT THEY'RE COMING TO TUCSON, JUST IMAGINE HOW TEXAS LOOKS. 06:11.972 --> 06:13.438 JUST IMAGINE HOW TEXAS LOOKS. IF THEY'RE BRINGING THEM HERE, 06:13.440 --> 06:15.907 IF THEY'RE BRINGING THEM HERE, AND YOU KNOW FROM THE PICTURES 06:15.909 --> 06:18.577 AND YOU KNOW FROM THE PICTURES LEAKED TO THE MEDIA YOU CAN SEE 06:18.579 --> 06:22.080 LEAKED TO THE MEDIA YOU CAN SEE THE OVERCROWDING, A MUCH BIGGER 06:22.082 --> 06:22.414 THE OVERCROWDING, A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE. 06:22.416 --> 06:26.017 ISSUE. >> IF YOU SEE HOW THIS IS BEING 06:26.019 --> 06:27.953 >> IF YOU SEE HOW THIS IS BEING TREATED BY THE MEDIA, I THINK 06:27.955 --> 06:29.354 TREATED BY THE MEDIA, I THINK SPANISH MEDIA IS COVERING THIS 06:29.356 --> 06:30.789 SPANISH MEDIA IS COVERING THIS MUCH MORE THAN THE AMERICAN 06:30.791 --> 06:31.123 MUCH MORE THAN THE AMERICAN PRESS. 06:31.125 --> 06:32.524 PRESS. >> WE STARTED TRYING TO KEEP UP 06:32.526 --> 06:34.893 >> WE STARTED TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE SITUATION, BEING HERE, 06:34.895 --> 06:36.027 WITH THE SITUATION, BEING HERE, WHY ARE THEY COMING? 06:36.029 --> 06:38.697 WHY ARE THEY COMING? WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THEM HERE? 06:38.699 --> 06:40.365 WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THEM HERE? BECAUSE TWO THURSDAYS AGO WE GOT 06:40.367 --> 06:42.300 BECAUSE TWO THURSDAYS AGO WE GOT A CALL FROM ICE, AND THEY TOLD 06:42.302 --> 06:45.003 A CALL FROM ICE, AND THEY TOLD US NO MORE KIDS, NO MORE MINORS, 06:45.005 --> 06:46.571 US NO MORE KIDS, NO MORE MINORS, WOMEN AND CHILDREN WILL BE 06:46.573 --> 06:47.839 WOMEN AND CHILDREN WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM TEXAS TO 06:47.841 --> 06:48.173 TRANSFERRED FROM TEXAS TO ARIZONA. 06:48.175 --> 06:50.709 ARIZONA. THE VERY NEXT DAY WE GOT 400 06:50.711 --> 06:51.009 THE VERY NEXT DAY WE GOT 400 KIDS. 06:51.011 --> 06:52.711 KIDS. THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE A PLAY ON 06:52.713 --> 06:54.112 THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE A PLAY ON WORDS THEY PLAYED WITH THE 06:54.114 --> 06:54.413 WORDS THEY PLAYED WITH THE MEDIA. 06:54.415 --> 06:55.947 MEDIA. SO TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE 06:55.949 --> 06:57.149 SO TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE STORY SINCE THAT MOMENT AND 06:57.151 --> 06:59.317 STORY SINCE THAT MOMENT AND TRYING TO FIND ANGLES TO THIS 06:59.319 --> 06:59.618 TRYING TO FIND ANGLES TO THIS STORY. 06:59.620 --> 07:03.388 STORY. WHY ARE THE KIDS COMING? 07:03.390 --> 07:06.625 WHY ARE THE KIDS COMING? WHERE ARE THE PARENTS? 07:06.627 --> 07:09.494 WHERE ARE THE PARENTS? IN SALVADOR, AND OTHER 07:09.496 --> 07:10.762 IN SALVADOR, AND OTHER COUNTRIES, ARE THEY LEAVING 07:10.764 --> 07:12.497 COUNTRIES, ARE THEY LEAVING BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE? 07:12.499 --> 07:16.101 BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE? JUNE AND JULY, THE TWO DEADLIEST 07:16.103 --> 07:17.269 JUNE AND JULY, THE TWO DEADLIEST MONTHS OF THE YEAR. 07:17.271 --> 07:19.271 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. ARE THE BORDERS, SHOULD THEY BE 07:19.273 --> 07:22.240 ARE THE BORDERS, SHOULD THEY BE OUT ON THE BORDER TAKING CARE OF 07:22.242 --> 07:23.842 OUT ON THE BORDER TAKING CARE OF MATTERS OR ARE THEY HERE? 07:23.844 --> 07:25.710 MATTERS OR ARE THEY HERE? SO TRYING TO MAKE THE STORY 07:25.712 --> 07:27.679 SO TRYING TO MAKE THE STORY FULL, NOT JUST OH, WE HAVE A 07:27.681 --> 07:30.148 FULL, NOT JUST OH, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF KIDS IN THE DETENTION 07:30.150 --> 07:32.150 BUNCH OF KIDS IN THE DETENTION CENTER, WHAT DO WE DO? 07:32.152 --> 07:33.552 CENTER, WHAT DO WE DO? SO WHERE ARE THE SHELTERS? 07:33.554 --> 07:36.288 SO WHERE ARE THE SHELTERS? ONE IN TUCSON, THEN YOU HAVE THE 07:36.290 --> 07:38.190 ONE IN TUCSON, THEN YOU HAVE THE ONES GOING TO THE SHELTERS. 07:38.192 --> 07:39.858 ONES GOING TO THE SHELTERS. THEY'RE DIVIDING THEM BY AGE. 07:39.860 --> 07:41.359 THEY'RE DIVIDING THEM BY AGE. THAT IS HOW THEY DECIDE. 07:41.361 --> 07:43.528 THAT IS HOW THEY DECIDE. SOME KIDS WERE HERE FOR FIVE 07:43.530 --> 07:43.895 SOME KIDS WERE HERE FOR FIVE DAYS. 07:43.897 --> 07:45.931 DAYS. OTHERS CAME IN, TWO DAYS, THOSE 07:45.933 --> 07:47.466 OTHERS CAME IN, TWO DAYS, THOSE LEFT BEFORE THE ONES THEY HAD 07:47.468 --> 07:49.167 LEFT BEFORE THE ONES THEY HAD BEEN HERE FOR FIVE DAYS. 07:49.169 --> 07:50.469 BEEN HERE FOR FIVE DAYS. QUESTIONS LIKE THAT HAVE NEVER 07:50.471 --> 07:52.204 QUESTIONS LIKE THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN ANSWERED AND IT IS VERY, 07:52.206 --> 07:53.805 BEEN ANSWERED AND IT IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO EXPLAIN 07:53.807 --> 07:55.574 VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON WHEN WE DON'T 07:55.576 --> 07:57.976 WHAT IS GOING ON WHEN WE DON'T GOT THE ANSWERS WE NEED. 07:57.978 --> 07:59.678 GOT THE ANSWERS WE NEED. >> AND THE TRANSPARENCY WE 07:59.680 --> 08:00.846 >> AND THE TRANSPARENCY WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET 08:00.848 --> 08:02.981 THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET TODAY WAS REALLY HARD TO GET. 08:02.983 --> 08:04.549 TODAY WAS REALLY HARD TO GET. IF YOU CAN'T TALK TO THE SOURCE 08:04.551 --> 08:06.284 IF YOU CAN'T TALK TO THE SOURCE OF THE STORY HOW DO YOU TELL THE 08:06.286 --> 08:07.486 OF THE STORY HOW DO YOU TELL THE STORY ACCURATELY? 08:07.488 --> 08:08.720 STORY ACCURATELY? >> IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. 08:08.722 --> 08:10.522 >> IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. ALL OF US FELT THAT SENSE OF 08:10.524 --> 08:10.922 ALL OF US FELT THAT SENSE OF FRUSTRATION. 08:10.924 --> 08:13.525 FRUSTRATION. BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP OF 08:13.527 --> 08:15.727 BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP OF JOURNALISTS AND WHAT WE'RE TOLD 08:15.729 --> 08:17.896 JOURNALISTS AND WHAT WE'RE TOLD TO DO IS DON'T ASK QUESTIONS. 08:17.898 --> 08:19.798 TO DO IS DON'T ASK QUESTIONS. AND THEN -- I'M GLAD WE GOT TO 08:19.800 --> 08:20.832 AND THEN -- I'M GLAD WE GOT TO GO IN THERE. 08:20.834 --> 08:23.201 GO IN THERE. I THINK WE ALL CAN APPRECIATE 08:23.203 --> 08:24.269 I THINK WE ALL CAN APPRECIATE BEING GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO 08:24.271 --> 08:26.171 BEING GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE. 08:26.173 --> 08:27.472 SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE. HOWEVER, THE TOUR WAS VERY 08:27.474 --> 08:29.107 HOWEVER, THE TOUR WAS VERY CONTROLLED AND WE HAD A 08:29.109 --> 08:31.643 CONTROLLED AND WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE 08:31.645 --> 08:32.377 REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. 08:32.379 --> 08:34.045 DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. AND WHEN QUESTIONS GOT TO BE A 08:34.047 --> 08:35.780 AND WHEN QUESTIONS GOT TO BE A LITTLE TOO MUCH SHE MADE SURE TO 08:35.782 --> 08:39.451 LITTLE TOO MUCH SHE MADE SURE TO PUT A STOP TO THE BORDER PATROL 08:39.453 --> 08:42.521 PUT A STOP TO THE BORDER PATROL AGENT WHO WAS GIVING US 08:42.523 --> 08:44.589 AGENT WHO WAS GIVING US LOGISTICAL ANSWERS, THIS WAS NOT 08:44.591 --> 08:46.157 LOGISTICAL ANSWERS, THIS WAS NOT SO MUCH POLICY BUT US WANTING TO 08:46.159 --> 08:48.593 SO MUCH POLICY BUT US WANTING TO GET ANSWERS ABOUT THE LOGISTICS 08:48.595 --> 08:49.461 GET ANSWERS ABOUT THE LOGISTICS AND THE OPERATION THERE. 08:49.463 --> 08:51.296 AND THE OPERATION THERE. >> BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE DO 08:51.298 --> 08:52.797 >> BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE DO YOU BELIEVE WE'LL SEE MORE 08:52.799 --> 08:53.798 YOU BELIEVE WE'LL SEE MORE TRANSPARENCY IN THIS ISSUE? 08:53.800 --> 08:56.401 TRANSPARENCY IN THIS ISSUE? >> NO, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO BE 08:56.403 --> 08:56.801 >> NO, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO BE OPTIMISTIC. 08:56.803 --> 08:58.737 OPTIMISTIC. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT IS 08:58.739 --> 09:00.472 AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT IS COMING FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL. 09:00.474 --> 09:02.040 COMING FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL. AND THEY'RE WANTING TO CONTROL. 09:02.042 --> 09:04.442 AND THEY'RE WANTING TO CONTROL. BUT YOU KNOW, THE MORE THIS IS 09:04.444 --> 09:05.744 BUT YOU KNOW, THE MORE THIS IS DRAGGED ON THE MORE STORIES 09:05.746 --> 09:06.711 DRAGGED ON THE MORE STORIES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. 09:06.713 --> 09:08.647 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO GET 09:08.649 --> 09:09.948 THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO GET PIECES OF INFORMATION FROM ALL 09:09.950 --> 09:10.982 PIECES OF INFORMATION FROM ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SOURCES 09:10.984 --> 09:12.617 OF THESE DIFFERENT SOURCES INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT COME 09:12.619 --> 09:14.586 INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT COME FROM THE OFFICIAL SOURCE. 09:14.588 --> 09:17.956 FROM THE OFFICIAL SOURCE. AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS, 09:17.958 --> 09:19.624 AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS, THE COMPREHENSIVE, ACCURATE 09:19.626 --> 09:21.359 THE COMPREHENSIVE, ACCURATE STORY, ALL OF US WANT TO HAVE 09:21.361 --> 09:22.727 STORY, ALL OF US WANT TO HAVE ACCURATE AND BALANCED STORIES. 09:22.729 --> 09:24.429 ACCURATE AND BALANCED STORIES. IT IS SO HARD TO DO. 09:24.431 --> 09:25.430 IT IS SO HARD TO DO. UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW THEY'RE 09:25.432 --> 09:25.830 UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING. 09:25.832 --> 09:28.366 TRYING. IT IS A VERY SLOW PROCESS. 09:28.368 --> 09:30.402 IT IS A VERY SLOW PROCESS. WE'RE REQUESTING TO COME INTO 09:30.404 --> 09:30.969 WE'RE REQUESTING TO COME INTO THIS FACILITY. 09:30.971 --> 09:32.737 THIS FACILITY. SINCE IT OPENED, ALMOST TWO AND 09:32.739 --> 09:34.573 SINCE IT OPENED, ALMOST TWO AND A HALF WEEKS, WHICH COULD -- 09:34.575 --> 09:36.942 A HALF WEEKS, WHICH COULD -- BASE ON THE TOUR WE RECEIVE IT 09:36.944 --> 09:38.143 BASE ON THE TOUR WE RECEIVE IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LITTLE 09:38.145 --> 09:38.476 COULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LITTLE EARLIER. 09:38.478 --> 09:39.544 EARLIER. I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING. 09:39.546 --> 09:42.614 I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING. I KNOW IT IS BUREAUCRACY OR -- 09:42.616 --> 09:44.149 I KNOW IT IS BUREAUCRACY OR -- LOGISTICS OR POLICY. 09:44.151 --> 09:46.151 LOGISTICS OR POLICY. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T SEE 09:46.153 --> 09:47.285 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T SEE MUCH CHANGE COMING. 09:47.287 --> 09:49.788 MUCH CHANGE COMING. >> OKAY, LADIES, THANK YOU FOR 09:49.790 --> 09:51.656 >> OKAY, LADIES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COVERAGE AND YOUR ANALYSIS. 09:51.658 --> 09:52.090 YOUR COVERAGE AND YOUR ANALYSIS. >> THANK YOU. 09:52.092 --> 09:54.025 >> THANK YOU. >> THE CHIEF OF THE TUCSON 09:54.027 --> 09:55.694 >> THE CHIEF OF THE TUCSON SECTOR BORDER PATROL SAYS THE 09:55.696 --> 10:00.231 SECTOR BORDER PATROL SAYS THE FACILITY HAS FOUR PRIORITIES. 10:00.233 --> 10:04.369 FACILITY HAS FOUR PRIORITIES. TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE, HEALTHY, 10:04.371 --> 10:05.437 TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE, HEALTHY, NOURISHED AND CLEAN. 10:05.439 --> 10:08.907 NOURISHED AND CLEAN. THE CHIEF SAYS HE IS PROUD OF 10:08.909 --> 10:10.575 THE CHIEF SAYS HE IS PROUD OF THE EFFORTS THUS FAR. 10:10.577 --> 10:11.810 THE EFFORTS THUS FAR. MEANWHILE, THE MAYOR OF NOGALES 10:11.812 --> 10:13.812 MEANWHILE, THE MAYOR OF NOGALES WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CIVILIANS 10:13.814 --> 10:15.080 WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CIVILIANS TO VISIT THE FACILITY. 10:15.082 --> 10:16.348 TO VISIT THE FACILITY. HERE IS MY INTERVIEW WITH HIM 10:16.350 --> 10:18.116 HERE IS MY INTERVIEW WITH HIM ABOUT WHAT HE BELIEVES IS 10:18.118 --> 10:19.317 ABOUT WHAT HE BELIEVES IS HAPPENING IN NOGALES. 10:19.319 --> 10:22.520 HAPPENING IN NOGALES. >> EVERYBODY REALLY HAS EMBRACED 10:22.522 --> 10:23.989 >> EVERYBODY REALLY HAS EMBRACED IT AS A HUMANITARIAN -- I DON'T 10:23.991 --> 10:26.691 IT AS A HUMANITARIAN -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY CRISIS. 10:26.693 --> 10:28.793 WANT TO SAY CRISIS. BUT EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT THE 10:28.795 --> 10:29.094 BUT EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT THE KIDS. 10:29.096 --> 10:29.828 KIDS. AND THE CHILDREN. 10:29.830 --> 10:32.631 AND THE CHILDREN. I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN 10:32.633 --> 10:32.964 I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NOGALES. 10:32.966 --> 10:34.399 NOGALES. AND THEY WERE VERY GENEROUS WHEN 10:34.401 --> 10:36.001 AND THEY WERE VERY GENEROUS WHEN WE HAD THE CLOTHING DRIVE. 10:36.003 --> 10:37.802 WE HAD THE CLOTHING DRIVE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I 10:37.804 --> 10:40.505 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE NOTICED, BY PEOPLE CALLING 10:40.507 --> 10:42.307 HAVE NOTICED, BY PEOPLE CALLING ME IS THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO 10:42.309 --> 10:43.508 ME IS THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO VOLUNTEER AND DO SOMETHING TO 10:43.510 --> 10:44.909 VOLUNTEER AND DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE CHILDREN BUT IT IS NOT 10:44.911 --> 10:46.845 HELP THE CHILDREN BUT IT IS NOT THAT EASY WITH THE PROTOCOL THAT 10:46.847 --> 10:49.180 THAT EASY WITH THE PROTOCOL THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS WHEN 10:49.182 --> 10:50.782 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROCESSING 10:50.784 --> 10:51.116 IT COMES TO THE PROCESSING CENTER. 10:51.118 --> 10:52.117 CENTER. >> NOGALES IS REALLY IN THE 10:52.119 --> 10:53.852 >> NOGALES IS REALLY IN THE CROSS HAIRS NOW. 10:53.854 --> 10:55.153 CROSS HAIRS NOW. THIS INTERNATIONAL STORY. 10:55.155 --> 10:57.822 THIS INTERNATIONAL STORY. HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THAT AND 10:57.824 --> 10:59.824 HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THAT AND MAINTAINING THIS TOWN'S 10:59.826 --> 11:01.059 MAINTAINING THIS TOWN'S REPUTATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE KIND 11:01.061 --> 11:03.028 REPUTATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE KIND OF GETTING THIS IDEA THAT THIS 11:03.030 --> 11:04.863 OF GETTING THIS IDEA THAT THIS IS JUST A BIG FACILITY AT THIS 11:04.865 --> 11:06.464 IS JUST A BIG FACILITY AT THIS POINT HOUSING THESE CHILDREN? 11:06.466 --> 11:08.633 POINT HOUSING THESE CHILDREN? >> WELL, ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO 11:08.635 --> 11:10.435 >> WELL, ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO IN THE CITY OF NOGALES, BORDER 11:10.437 --> 11:12.737 IN THE CITY OF NOGALES, BORDER PATROL IS A GREAT PARTNER AND 11:12.739 --> 11:14.572 PATROL IS A GREAT PARTNER AND ACTUALLY HAS THE WHOLE SOUTHWEST 11:14.574 --> 11:14.906 ACTUALLY HAS THE WHOLE SOUTHWEST BORDER. 11:14.908 --> 11:20.178 BORDER. THAT IS WHY WE AS A MUNICIPALITY 11:20.180 --> 11:22.881 THAT IS WHY WE AS A MUNICIPALITY AND THOSE THAT ARE THERE TO 11:22.883 --> 11:24.115 AND THOSE THAT ARE THERE TO SUPPORT THE BORDER PATROL 11:24.117 --> 11:24.449 SUPPORT THE BORDER PATROL EFFORTS. 11:24.451 --> 11:27.385 EFFORTS. I KNOW WE'RE IN THE NEWS 11:27.387 --> 11:29.654 I KNOW WE'RE IN THE NEWS NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY BECAUSE 11:29.656 --> 11:30.455 NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY BECAUSE THEY COME THROUGH ME. 11:30.457 --> 11:32.490 THEY COME THROUGH ME. WE HAVE TO PUT THIS PERSPECTIVE 11:32.492 --> 11:36.261 WE HAVE TO PUT THIS PERSPECTIVE THAT THIS IS A PROCESS, NOT A 11:36.263 --> 11:38.697 THAT THIS IS A PROCESS, NOT A DETENTION CENTER. 11:38.699 --> 11:39.898 DETENTION CENTER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE 11:39.900 --> 11:41.533 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CRISIS BUT IF YOU 11:41.535 --> 11:43.368 CONSIDERED A CRISIS BUT IF YOU HAVE 48,000 CHILDREN IN TEXAS 11:43.370 --> 11:45.904 HAVE 48,000 CHILDREN IN TEXAS AND NOGALES BEING ONE OF THE 11:45.906 --> 11:46.971 AND NOGALES BEING ONE OF THE BIGGEST BORDER PATROL STATIONS 11:46.973 --> 11:50.008 BIGGEST BORDER PATROL STATIONS WITH THE TUCSON SECTOR IN THIS 11:50.010 --> 11:52.310 WITH THE TUCSON SECTOR IN THIS AREA, I'M SURE THAT THAT WAS THE 11:52.312 --> 11:53.712 AREA, I'M SURE THAT THAT WAS THE REASON, LOGICALLY BEHIND IT WHEN 11:53.714 --> 11:55.747 REASON, LOGICALLY BEHIND IT WHEN THEY SAID YOU KNOW WHAT? 11:55.749 --> 11:57.482 THEY SAID YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S USE NOGALES TO HELP 11:57.484 --> 11:57.882 LET'S USE NOGALES TO HELP PROCESS. 11:57.884 --> 11:59.484 PROCESS. THE MILITARY BASES WHERE THE 11:59.486 --> 12:00.852 THE MILITARY BASES WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE BEING TRANSFERRED 12:00.854 --> 12:04.189 CHILDREN ARE BEING TRANSFERRED TO, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE 12:04.191 --> 12:07.258 TO, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE THE HEALTH AND 12:07.260 --> 12:09.160 ABLE TO LOCATE THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, THROUGH THE 12:09.162 --> 12:10.462 HUMAN SERVICES, THROUGH THE SERVICES, LOCATE A RELATIVE SO 12:10.464 --> 12:11.663 SERVICES, LOCATE A RELATIVE SO THEY CAN GO WITH THEM. 12:11.665 --> 12:12.897 THEY CAN GO WITH THEM. I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS OF THE 12:12.899 --> 12:14.199 I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS OF THE IMMIGRATION BUT I KNOW IT COULD 12:14.201 --> 12:16.701 IMMIGRATION BUT I KNOW IT COULD BE A PROCESS BETWEEN A YEAR AND 12:16.703 --> 12:17.902 BE A PROCESS BETWEEN A YEAR AND THREE YEARS WHILE THEY'RE 12:17.904 --> 12:23.108 THREE YEARS WHILE THEY'RE FINDING OUT EXACTLY WHAT NEAR 12:23.110 --> 12:23.842 FINDING OUT EXACTLY WHAT NEAR GOI-- 12:23.844 --> 12:25.110 GOI-- THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OUT, HOW 12:25.112 --> 12:26.578 THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OUT, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO TREAT THE 12:26.580 --> 12:27.512 THEY'RE GOING TO TREAT THE SITUATION CHILD BY CHILD. 12:27.514 --> 12:29.948 SITUATION CHILD BY CHILD. SO THIS IS A TASK NOT ONLY FOR 12:29.950 --> 12:31.015 SO THIS IS A TASK NOT ONLY FOR BORDER PATROL BUT FOR HOMELAND 12:31.017 --> 12:31.382 BORDER PATROL BUT FOR HOMELAND SECURITY. 12:31.384 --> 12:32.884 SECURITY. >> PERHAPS YOU'RE NOT CALLING IT 12:32.886 --> 12:34.285 >> PERHAPS YOU'RE NOT CALLING IT A CRISIS BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE 12:34.287 --> 12:36.087 A CRISIS BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE THERE IS A GOOD HOLD ON THE 12:36.089 --> 12:36.988 THERE IS A GOOD HOLD ON THE SITUATION CONSIDERING THE 12:36.990 --> 12:37.455 SITUATION CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 12:37.457 --> 12:40.458 CIRCUMSTANCES. >> WELL, THE ONLY CRISIS I CAN 12:40.460 --> 12:42.360 >> WELL, THE ONLY CRISIS I CAN SAY CRISIS -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND 12:42.362 --> 12:44.262 SAY CRISIS -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CHILDREN, AND JUST 12:44.264 --> 12:45.263 WHY THE CHILDREN, AND JUST CHILDREN, MIND YOU. 12:45.265 --> 12:47.799 CHILDREN, MIND YOU. THESE ARE UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 12:47.801 --> 12:51.002 THESE ARE UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN FROM THE AGE OF FOUR TO 17. 12:51.004 --> 12:52.504 FROM THE AGE OF FOUR TO 17. I COULD NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW 12:52.506 --> 12:54.372 I COULD NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW A CHILD LIKE THAT COULD TRAVEL 12:54.374 --> 12:56.708 A CHILD LIKE THAT COULD TRAVEL OVER A THOUSAND MILES FROM THEIR 12:56.710 --> 12:58.843 OVER A THOUSAND MILES FROM THEIR HOME OF ORIGIN, THE COUNTRY OF 12:58.845 --> 13:00.578 HOME OF ORIGIN, THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN TO THE BORDERS OF TEXAS. 13:00.580 --> 13:01.646 ORIGIN TO THE BORDERS OF TEXAS. THAT IS THE CRISIS. 13:01.648 --> 13:03.047 THAT IS THE CRISIS. >> THIS IS PART OF DOING 13:03.049 --> 13:04.082 >> THIS IS PART OF DOING BUSINESS IN A BORDER TOWN. 13:04.084 --> 13:08.286 BUSINESS IN A BORDER TOWN. >> YES, THIS IS -- I MEAN, WE 13:08.288 --> 13:10.955 >> YES, THIS IS -- I MEAN, WE HAVE NATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS, A 13:10.957 --> 13:12.157 HAVE NATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS, A SISTERHOOD AGREEMENT. 13:12.159 --> 13:13.958 SISTERHOOD AGREEMENT. THE LAST ECONOMIC FORUM WE HAD, 13:13.960 --> 13:16.060 THE LAST ECONOMIC FORUM WE HAD, I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT UP TO 13:16.062 --> 13:17.796 I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT UP TO SPEAK AND I TOLD EVERYBODY 13:17.798 --> 13:20.765 SPEAK AND I TOLD EVERYBODY THERE, ALL THE MAYORS FROM 13:20.767 --> 13:22.467 THERE, ALL THE MAYORS FROM SONORA AND ARIZONA THAT THEY 13:22.469 --> 13:24.002 SONORA AND ARIZONA THAT THEY REPRESENTED, I SAID YOU KNOW IN 13:24.004 --> 13:29.507 REPRESENTED, I SAID YOU KNOW IN NOGALES WE WANT TO REMOVE THE 13:29.509 --> 13:31.176 NOGALES WE WANT TO REMOVE THE WORDS "BORDER SECURITY" BECAUSE 13:31.178 --> 13:34.078 WORDS "BORDER SECURITY" BECAUSE THAT HAS CAUSED US A LOT OF 13:34.080 --> 13:35.380 THAT HAS CAUSED US A LOT OF PROBLEMS ECONOMICALLY. 13:35.382 --> 13:37.448 PROBLEMS ECONOMICALLY. AND I WANT TO TALK ECONOMIC 13:37.450 --> 13:37.849 AND I WANT TO TALK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 13:37.851 --> 13:39.250 DEVELOPMENT. THESE CHILDREN DID NOT COME 13:39.252 --> 13:41.586 THESE CHILDREN DID NOT COME THROUGH OUR BORDERS IN ARIZONA, 13:41.588 --> 13:42.921 THROUGH OUR BORDERS IN ARIZONA, THEY CAME THROUGH TEXAS. 13:42.923 --> 13:44.389 THEY CAME THROUGH TEXAS. WE HAVE TO HELP TEXAS NOW. 13:44.391 --> 13:46.558 WE HAVE TO HELP TEXAS NOW. AND MY CASE, WE HAVE TO HELP 13:46.560 --> 13:48.226 AND MY CASE, WE HAVE TO HELP BORDER PATROL AND WE HAVE TO 13:48.228 --> 13:49.661 BORDER PATROL AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS ABOUT THE 13:49.663 --> 13:50.161 MAKE SURE IT IS ABOUT THE CHILDREN. 13:50.163 --> 13:52.630 CHILDREN. IT IS JUST VERY SENSITIVE, 13:52.632 --> 13:52.997 IT IS JUST VERY SENSITIVE, DELICATE. 13:52.999 --> 13:54.098 DELICATE. >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING IN THE 13:54.100 --> 13:55.867 >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING IN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS? 13:55.869 --> 13:57.468 NEXT FOUR MONTHS? THESE CHILDREN ARE NOT JUST 13:57.470 --> 13:57.969 THESE CHILDREN ARE NOT JUST LEAVING TOMORROW. 13:57.971 --> 14:01.105 LEAVING TOMORROW. >> WELL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND 14:01.107 --> 14:01.840 >> WELL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESSING CENTER COULD BE 14:01.842 --> 14:03.441 THIS PROCESSING CENTER COULD BE HERE ANYWHERE FROM THROUGHOUT 14:03.443 --> 14:06.211 HERE ANYWHERE FROM THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER OR MAYBE PAST 14:06.213 --> 14:06.778 THE SUMMER OR MAYBE PAST SEPTEMBER. 14:06.780 --> 14:10.081 SEPTEMBER. NOW, I HAVE HEARD NUMBERS OF 70 14:10.083 --> 14:10.448 NOW, I HAVE HEARD NUMBERS OF 70 THOUSAND. 14:10.450 --> 14:11.850 THOUSAND. POSSIBLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 14:11.852 --> 14:13.585 POSSIBLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR. IF THAT IS THE CASE, I DON'T 14:13.587 --> 14:15.119 IF THAT IS THE CASE, I DON'T KNOW, IT COULD BE LONGER. 14:15.121 --> 14:17.388 KNOW, IT COULD BE LONGER. BUT IT ALL DEPENDS IF THEY TURN 14:17.390 --> 14:19.090 BUT IT ALL DEPENDS IF THEY TURN OUT THEIR FACILITIES IN TEXAS OR 14:19.092 --> 14:21.092 OUT THEIR FACILITIES IN TEXAS OR THE MILITARY BASES AND TO THAT 14:21.094 --> 14:21.726 THE MILITARY BASES AND TO THAT PROCESSING CENTER. 14:21.728 --> 14:23.761 PROCESSING CENTER. BUT YOU KNOW, NOGALES IS THERE 14:23.763 --> 14:25.530 BUT YOU KNOW, NOGALES IS THERE AND I'M SURE OUR BORDER PATROL 14:25.532 --> 14:28.399 AND I'M SURE OUR BORDER PATROL STATION IS CAPABLE OF TAKING 14:28.401 --> 14:29.734 STATION IS CAPABLE OF TAKING THIS JOB UP. 14:29.736 --> 14:32.103 THIS JOB UP. >> NOGALES IS USED TO BEING IN 14:32.105 --> 14:33.938 >> NOGALES IS USED TO BEING IN THE NEWS FOR ISSUES RELATED TO 14:33.940 --> 14:34.539 THE NEWS FOR ISSUES RELATED TO THE BORDER. 14:34.541 --> 14:39.444 THE BORDER. THIS STORY, THOUGH, HAS 14:39.446 --> 14:42.881 THIS STORY, THOUGH, HAS CATAPULTED THIS TOWN INTO THE 14:42.883 --> 14:43.248 CATAPULTED THIS TOWN INTO THE SPOTLIGHT. 14:43.250 --> 14:46.451 SPOTLIGHT. HERE IS MY INTERVIEW WITH THE 14:46.453 --> 14:46.818 HERE IS MY INTERVIEW WITH THE REPORTER. 14:46.820 --> 14:47.485 REPORTER. >> Reporter: YOU HAVE BEEN 14:47.487 --> 14:49.621 >> Reporter: YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS STORY FOR A COUPLE 14:49.623 --> 14:50.688 COVERING THIS STORY FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW AND THIS IS BIG 14:50.690 --> 14:51.756 OF WEEKS NOW AND THIS IS BIG NEWS IN A SMALL TOWN. 14:51.758 --> 14:53.758 NEWS IN A SMALL TOWN. >> YEAH, THIS TYPE OF THING KIND 14:53.760 --> 14:56.094 >> YEAH, THIS TYPE OF THING KIND OF HAPPENS EVERY COUPLE OF 14:56.096 --> 14:56.427 OF HAPPENS EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS. 14:56.429 --> 14:57.729 MONTHS. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD 14:57.731 --> 14:59.364 LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD CATHOLIC BISHOPS COME DOWN TO 14:59.366 --> 15:01.299 CATHOLIC BISHOPS COME DOWN TO THE FENCE A LITTLE WHILE AGO. 15:01.301 --> 15:02.767 THE FENCE A LITTLE WHILE AGO. YOU HAVE PROTESTS. 15:02.769 --> 15:05.503 YOU HAVE PROTESTS. AND YES, THE MEDIA COMES TO TOWN 15:05.505 --> 15:08.506 AND YES, THE MEDIA COMES TO TOWN AND WHEN IT MAKES BIG NEWS. 15:08.508 --> 15:10.208 AND WHEN IT MAKES BIG NEWS. THIS ONE IS MOST DEFINITELY -- 15:10.210 --> 15:11.843 THIS ONE IS MOST DEFINITELY -- THIS IS KIND OF BIGGER NEWS THAN 15:11.845 --> 15:13.878 THIS IS KIND OF BIGGER NEWS THAN THE OTHER ONES BECAUSE THIS 15:13.880 --> 15:15.680 THE OTHER ONES BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE TOUCHING ON A LARGER 15:15.682 --> 15:17.815 SEEMS TO BE TOUCHING ON A LARGER ISSUE THAT IS UNFOLDING WITH 15:17.817 --> 15:19.417 ISSUE THAT IS UNFOLDING WITH CHILDREN FROM CENTRAL AMERICA 15:19.419 --> 15:20.818 CHILDREN FROM CENTRAL AMERICA WANTING TO COME UP TO THE UNITED 15:20.820 --> 15:21.152 WANTING TO COME UP TO THE UNITED STATES. 15:21.154 --> 15:24.122 STATES. AND IT LOOKS LIKE OUR 15:24.124 --> 15:25.490 AND IT LOOKS LIKE OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS NOT QUITE 15:25.492 --> 15:26.958 IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS NOT QUITE BUILT TO HANDLE THIS PROBLEM. 15:26.960 --> 15:28.960 BUILT TO HANDLE THIS PROBLEM. AND SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEING -- 15:28.962 --> 15:30.862 AND SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEING -- WE'RE KIND OF SEEING WHAT THE 15:30.864 --> 15:32.664 WE'RE KIND OF SEEING WHAT THE FEDERAL AGENCY IS GOING TO DO 15:32.666 --> 15:33.731 FEDERAL AGENCY IS GOING TO DO WITH REGARD TO A SITUATION 15:33.733 --> 15:36.434 WITH REGARD TO A SITUATION THEY'RE NOT REALLY PREPARED FOR. 15:36.436 --> 15:37.302 THEY'RE NOT REALLY PREPARED FOR. >> Reporter: AS A JOURNALIST, 15:37.304 --> 15:40.004 >> Reporter: AS A JOURNALIST, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS YOUR 15:40.006 --> 15:40.972 WHAT DO YOU THINK IS YOUR GREATEST CHALLENGE COVERING A 15:40.974 --> 15:42.874 GREATEST CHALLENGE COVERING A STORY LIKE THIS, WHERE IT IS 15:42.876 --> 15:43.675 STORY LIKE THIS, WHERE IT IS IMMIGRATION, AND HUMANITARIAN, 15:43.677 --> 15:44.309 IMMIGRATION, AND HUMANITARIAN, AND CHILDREN. 15:44.311 --> 15:45.743 AND CHILDREN. >> THE CHILDREN THING IS A BIG 15:45.745 --> 15:46.577 >> THE CHILDREN THING IS A BIG ISSUE, RIGHT? 15:46.579 --> 15:48.513 ISSUE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS 15:48.515 --> 15:50.214 BECAUSE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE LACK OF ACCESS, THEY 15:50.216 --> 15:52.350 GOING TO BE LACK OF ACCESS, THEY JUST LED US IN, SHOWED US 15:52.352 --> 15:52.684 JUST LED US IN, SHOWED US AROUND. 15:52.686 --> 15:53.851 AROUND. BUT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED ACCESS 15:53.853 --> 15:54.786 BUT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED ACCESS TO THE CHILDREN. 15:54.788 --> 15:55.987 TO THE CHILDREN. I KIND OF GET THAT. 15:55.989 --> 15:57.889 I KIND OF GET THAT. WITH MINORS IT IS ALWAYS A 15:57.891 --> 15:58.523 WITH MINORS IT IS ALWAYS A TOUCHY SITUATION. 15:58.525 --> 16:00.391 TOUCHY SITUATION. IN THE END THE BIG PROBLEM WILL 16:00.393 --> 16:02.226 IN THE END THE BIG PROBLEM WILL BE HOW DO WE GET ACCESS TO THE 16:02.228 --> 16:02.627 BE HOW DO WE GET ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION? 16:02.629 --> 16:04.329 INFORMATION? AND FOR US THE REAL STORIES ARE 16:04.331 --> 16:05.930 AND FOR US THE REAL STORIES ARE GOING TO BE THE CHILDREN'S 16:05.932 --> 16:06.297 GOING TO BE THE CHILDREN'S STORIES. 16:06.299 --> 16:07.999 STORIES. SO HOW DO WE GET IN TOUCH WITH 16:08.001 --> 16:12.737 SO HOW DO WE GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CHILDREN AND HAVE THEM TELL 16:12.739 --> 16:15.540 THE CHILDREN AND HAVE THEM TELL A STORY THAT IS ETHICALLY 16:15.542 --> 16:15.974 A STORY THAT IS ETHICALLY RESPONSIBLE. 16:15.976 --> 16:17.208 RESPONSIBLE. >> YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS 16:17.210 --> 16:18.876 >> YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS STORY FOR YEARS NOW, WHAT DO YOU 16:18.878 --> 16:20.144 STORY FOR YEARS NOW, WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT IS DIFFERENT NOW WITH 16:20.146 --> 16:20.645 SEE THAT IS DIFFERENT NOW WITH THIS STORY? 16:20.647 --> 16:23.147 THIS STORY? >> WELL, THIS STORY, IT IS JUST 16:23.149 --> 16:24.415 >> WELL, THIS STORY, IT IS JUST LOCALIZED BORDER PATROL STATION. 16:24.417 --> 16:26.517 LOCALIZED BORDER PATROL STATION. THERE IS BASICALLY NO IMPACT IN 16:26.519 --> 16:27.685 THERE IS BASICALLY NO IMPACT IN THE CITY LIKE NOGALES. 16:27.687 --> 16:29.554 THE CITY LIKE NOGALES. THE ONLY THING I'M SEEING IS THE 16:29.556 --> 16:34.158 THE ONLY THING I'M SEEING IS THE COMMUNITY IS KIND OF RALLYING TO 16:34.160 --> 16:35.393 COMMUNITY IS KIND OF RALLYING TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN. 16:35.395 --> 16:37.428 SUPPORT THE CHILDREN. SO OUR MAYOR AND CHURCHES AND 16:37.430 --> 16:39.030 SO OUR MAYOR AND CHURCHES AND OTHERS ARE GATHERING TOYS AND 16:39.032 --> 16:40.631 OTHERS ARE GATHERING TOYS AND FOOD AND CLOTHES TO HELP OUT THE 16:40.633 --> 16:40.999 FOOD AND CLOTHES TO HELP OUT THE CHILDREN. 16:41.001 --> 16:42.233 CHILDREN. BUT THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY 16:42.235 --> 16:44.369 BUT THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY IMPACT I'M SEEING ON THE CITY OF 16:44.371 --> 16:44.802 IMPACT I'M SEEING ON THE CITY OF NOGALES. 16:44.804 --> 16:45.603 NOGALES. TO THE PEOPLE. 16:45.605 --> 16:46.704 TO THE PEOPLE. >> TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT IN 16:46.706 --> 16:48.106 >> TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT IN A STORY LIKE THIS ONE. 16:48.108 --> 16:50.375 A STORY LIKE THIS ONE. >> IT ALWAYS IS, AND WITH BORDER 16:50.377 --> 16:52.143 >> IT ALWAYS IS, AND WITH BORDER PATROL IT IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE, 16:52.145 --> 16:53.678 PATROL IT IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE, THE GREAT THING ABOUT TODAY WE 16:53.680 --> 16:55.046 THE GREAT THING ABOUT TODAY WE GOT TO GO IN FOR THE FIRST TIME 16:55.048 --> 16:56.814 GOT TO GO IN FOR THE FIRST TIME AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE PLAYING 16:56.816 --> 16:57.382 AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE PLAYING OUT INSIDE. 16:57.384 --> 16:59.083 OUT INSIDE. HOW THEY'RE BEING TREATED. 16:59.085 --> 17:01.152 HOW THEY'RE BEING TREATED. SO NOW AS WE ALL GO ABOUT OUR 17:01.154 --> 17:02.253 SO NOW AS WE ALL GO ABOUT OUR REPORTING WE CAN HAVE THAT 17:02.255 --> 17:03.721 REPORTING WE CAN HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE ON IT. 17:03.723 --> 17:06.057 PERSPECTIVE ON IT. ALWAYS WITH THAT BIG GRAIN OF 17:06.059 --> 17:07.625 ALWAYS WITH THAT BIG GRAIN OF SALT, WE DIDN'T GET TO HAVE FULL 17:07.627 --> 17:08.993 SALT, WE DIDN'T GET TO HAVE FULL ACCESS AND SPEAK TO THE CHILDREN 17:08.995 --> 17:10.661 ACCESS AND SPEAK TO THE CHILDREN AND JUST SAY, WHAT IS YOUR 17:10.663 --> 17:12.063 AND JUST SAY, WHAT IS YOUR STORY, HOW ARE YOU DOING? 17:12.065 --> 17:13.231 STORY, HOW ARE YOU DOING? >> THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND 17:13.233 --> 17:14.999 >> THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS GUARDED THE PRIVACY 17:15.001 --> 17:16.868 SECURITY HAS GUARDED THE PRIVACY OF THE CHILDREN RATHER CLOSELY. 17:16.870 --> 17:18.770 OF THE CHILDREN RATHER CLOSELY. IT IS UNCLEAR HOW MANY HUNDREDS 17:18.772 --> 17:21.172 IT IS UNCLEAR HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN 17:21.174 --> 17:22.540 OF CHILDREN HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN PROCESSED THROUGH NOGALES. 17:22.542 --> 17:25.410 PROCESSED THROUGH NOGALES. ART DELGUETO IS PRESIDENT OF THE 17:25.412 --> 17:27.178 ART DELGUETO IS PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE BORDER 17:27.180 --> 17:29.414 LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE BORDER PATROL UNION AND HAS BEEN ABLE 17:29.416 --> 17:30.815 PATROL UNION AND HAS BEEN ABLE TO TALK WITH THE CHILDREN AND 17:30.817 --> 17:32.817 TO TALK WITH THE CHILDREN AND THEN TELL US WHAT HE IS LEARNING 17:32.819 --> 17:33.851 THEN TELL US WHAT HE IS LEARNING ABOUT THEIR JOURNEY. 17:33.853 --> 17:34.819 ABOUT THEIR JOURNEY. >> Reporter: THE MEDIA WAS 17:34.821 --> 17:36.054 >> Reporter: THE MEDIA WAS ALLOWED ACCESS INTO THE FACILITY 17:36.056 --> 17:37.422 ALLOWED ACCESS INTO THE FACILITY TODAY BUT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO 17:37.424 --> 17:38.923 TODAY BUT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK WITH THE CHILDREN. 17:38.925 --> 17:39.857 TALK WITH THE CHILDREN. YOU OF COURSE HAD SOME 17:39.859 --> 17:40.858 YOU OF COURSE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. 17:40.860 --> 17:43.261 CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS THEIR 17:43.263 --> 17:43.728 WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS THEIR DEMEANOR? 17:43.730 --> 17:45.763 DEMEANOR? THESE KIDS, WHAT ARE THEY 17:45.765 --> 17:46.097 THESE KIDS, WHAT ARE THEY SAYING? 17:46.099 --> 17:47.331 SAYING? >> WELL'S IT DEPENDS. 17:47.333 --> 17:49.934 >> WELL'S IT DEPENDS. YOU WILL HAVE KIDS, CRYING, SOME 17:49.936 --> 17:51.469 YOU WILL HAVE KIDS, CRYING, SOME UPSET, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM 17:51.471 --> 17:52.737 UPSET, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM THEY'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME. 17:52.739 --> 17:54.172 THEY'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME. THEY REALIZE IT IS A PROCESS. 17:54.174 --> 17:56.641 THEY REALIZE IT IS A PROCESS. A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET BORED. 17:56.643 --> 17:58.643 A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET BORED. YOU TAKE KIDS TO THE GROCERY 17:58.645 --> 18:00.611 YOU TAKE KIDS TO THE GROCERY STORE AND THEY GET BORED. 18:00.613 --> 18:02.947 STORE AND THEY GET BORED. THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE 18:02.949 --> 18:04.982 THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. 18:04.984 --> 18:06.884 OF DAYS. THEY GET FED SIX TIMES A DAY. 18:06.886 --> 18:08.986 THEY GET FED SIX TIMES A DAY. THEY HAVE REC TIME, THE AGENTS 18:08.988 --> 18:10.555 THEY HAVE REC TIME, THE AGENTS ARE PLAYING WITH THEM. 18:10.557 --> 18:12.023 ARE PLAYING WITH THEM. THEY'RE BEING PROPERLY TAKEN 18:12.025 --> 18:13.558 THEY'RE BEING PROPERLY TAKEN CARE OF BEYOND I THINK WHAT 18:13.560 --> 18:14.192 CARE OF BEYOND I THINK WHAT COULD BE DONE. 18:14.194 --> 18:16.828 COULD BE DONE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD AN 18:16.830 --> 18:18.629 A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE BARBED WIRE 18:18.631 --> 18:19.664 ISSUE WITH THE BARBED WIRE FENCING ON TOP. 18:19.666 --> 18:21.566 FENCING ON TOP. THIS FENCING WAS NOT BUILT FOR 18:21.568 --> 18:21.866 THIS FENCING WAS NOT BUILT FOR THIS. 18:21.868 --> 18:23.634 THIS. IT WAS BUILT FOR THE ADULTS. 18:23.636 --> 18:24.869 IT WAS BUILT FOR THE ADULTS. IT WAS ALREADY SET UP. 18:24.871 --> 18:26.504 IT WAS ALREADY SET UP. WE USED IT PREVIOUSLY. 18:26.506 --> 18:28.473 WE USED IT PREVIOUSLY. THE BARBED WIRE WAS ALREADY 18:28.475 --> 18:28.773 THE BARBED WIRE WAS ALREADY THERE. 18:28.775 --> 18:30.808 THERE. WHAT THE BORDER PATROL DID WAS 18:30.810 --> 18:32.510 WHAT THE BORDER PATROL DID WAS BRING IN MORE THINGS TO ADAPT IT 18:32.512 --> 18:33.678 BRING IN MORE THINGS TO ADAPT IT MORE FOR THE KIDS. 18:33.680 --> 18:34.979 MORE FOR THE KIDS. >> Reporter: THE AGENCY NOT 18:34.981 --> 18:36.681 >> Reporter: THE AGENCY NOT ANSWERING ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS. 18:36.683 --> 18:38.749 ANSWERING ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS. I SHOULDN'T SAY -- THEY ANSWERED 18:38.751 --> 18:39.650 I SHOULDN'T SAY -- THEY ANSWERED A FEW. 18:39.652 --> 18:42.353 A FEW. BUT A LOT OF IT WAS SENT IN 18:42.355 --> 18:43.955 BUT A LOT OF IT WAS SENT IN E-MAILS, GO THROUGH D.C., THAT 18:43.957 --> 18:45.723 E-MAILS, GO THROUGH D.C., THAT IS A LITTLE CONCERNING FOR US 18:45.725 --> 18:47.291 IS A LITTLE CONCERNING FOR US WHEN WE JUST WANT ANSWERS AND 18:47.293 --> 18:47.959 WHEN WE JUST WANT ANSWERS AND WANT THE STORY. 18:47.961 --> 18:52.530 WANT THE STORY. >> I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE, IT 18:52.532 --> 18:54.765 >> I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE, IT REALLY UPSETS ME, THE INTERVIEWS 18:54.767 --> 18:56.367 REALLY UPSETS ME, THE INTERVIEWS I'M GIVING, THAT WOULD BE EASY 18:56.369 --> 18:57.869 I'M GIVING, THAT WOULD BE EASY FOR THEM TO GIVE. 18:57.871 --> 18:59.837 FOR THEM TO GIVE. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU DEAL 18:59.839 --> 19:02.473 UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU DEAL WITH DIFFERENT BUREAUCRATS AND 19:02.475 --> 19:04.142 WITH DIFFERENT BUREAUCRATS AND POLITICIANS THEY HAVE TO GO -- 19:04.144 --> 19:05.543 POLITICIANS THEY HAVE TO GO -- EVERYTHING IS THROUGH 19:05.545 --> 19:06.878 EVERYTHING IS THROUGH WASHINGTON, THEY HAVE TO CLEAR 19:06.880 --> 19:07.879 WASHINGTON, THEY HAVE TO CLEAR IT. 19:07.881 --> 19:10.481 IT. I DON'T THINK IT IS ON BORDER 19:10.483 --> 19:10.815 I DON'T THINK IT IS ON BORDER PATROL. 19:10.817 --> 19:13.417 PATROL. BUT IT IS DEFINITELY ON DHS. 19:13.419 --> 19:15.987 BUT IT IS DEFINITELY ON DHS. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU ARE NOT 19:15.989 --> 19:17.421 >> JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU ARE NOT REPRESENTING THE UNION, YOU 19:17.423 --> 19:18.856 REPRESENTING THE UNION, YOU REPRESENT THE AGENTS? 19:18.858 --> 19:21.392 REPRESENT THE AGENTS? >> CORRECT, I REPRESENT THE 19:21.394 --> 19:23.461 >> CORRECT, I REPRESENT THE AGENTS WHO REPRESENT THE BORDER 19:23.463 --> 19:23.794 AGENTS WHO REPRESENT THE BORDER PATROL. 19:23.796 --> 19:25.596 PATROL. >> AS AN AGENT YOU ARE USED TO 19:25.598 --> 19:27.098 >> AS AN AGENT YOU ARE USED TO WALKING IN AND SEEING ADULTS. 19:27.100 --> 19:29.300 WALKING IN AND SEEING ADULTS. BUT WITH KIDS IT IS A MUCH 19:29.302 --> 19:29.834 BUT WITH KIDS IT IS A MUCH DIFFERENT LEVEL. 19:29.836 --> 19:31.836 DIFFERENT LEVEL. IT TUGS AT THE HEART STRINGS. 19:31.838 --> 19:34.005 IT TUGS AT THE HEART STRINGS. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? 19:34.007 --> 19:35.873 >> YOU KNOW WHAT? I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY 19:35.875 --> 19:36.174 I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY TIMES. 19:36.176 --> 19:37.909 TIMES. I'VE SEEN MILLIONS OF KIDS. 19:37.911 --> 19:39.110 I'VE SEEN MILLIONS OF KIDS. IT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE 19:39.112 --> 19:41.479 IT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THEM ALL IN ONE AREA. 19:41.481 --> 19:44.115 THEM ALL IN ONE AREA. BUT I HAVE WALKED IN THERE AND 19:44.117 --> 19:45.416 BUT I HAVE WALKED IN THERE AND JOKE AROUND WITH THEM AND PLAY 19:45.418 --> 19:45.950 JOKE AROUND WITH THEM AND PLAY WITH THEM. 19:45.952 --> 19:47.451 WITH THEM. THEY'RE WILLING TO JOKE AROUND, 19:47.453 --> 19:48.452 THEY'RE WILLING TO JOKE AROUND, AND TALK TO YOU. 19:48.454 --> 19:49.954 AND TALK TO YOU. IN THE END THEY'RE JUST KIDS. 19:49.956 --> 19:51.956 IN THE END THEY'RE JUST KIDS. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY COME TO 19:51.958 --> 19:53.524 A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY COME TO AMERICA WITH THEIR PARENTS THEY 19:53.526 --> 19:55.359 AMERICA WITH THEIR PARENTS THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE COMING 19:55.361 --> 19:55.726 DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE COMING ILLEGALLY. 19:55.728 --> 19:58.529 ILLEGALLY. THE DIFFERENCE IS WE HAVE 16 AND 19:58.531 --> 19:59.430 THE DIFFERENCE IS WE HAVE 16 AND 17-YEAR-OLD KIDS. 19:59.432 --> 20:01.566 17-YEAR-OLD KIDS. I THINK A LOT OF THIS WAS 20:01.568 --> 20:01.899 I THINK A LOT OF THIS WAS PLANNED. 20:01.901 --> 20:03.568 PLANNED. BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY 20:03.570 --> 20:05.336 BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY KIDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY TURNING 20:05.338 --> 20:06.704 KIDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY TURNING THEMSELVES OVER TO BORDER PATROL 20:06.706 --> 20:07.872 THEMSELVES OVER TO BORDER PATROL AND IN ADDITION, WHEN THEY'RE 20:07.874 --> 20:09.640 AND IN ADDITION, WHEN THEY'RE DOING ARRESTED THEY ALREADY HAVE 20:09.642 --> 20:11.175 DOING ARRESTED THEY ALREADY HAVE PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY 20:11.177 --> 20:12.543 PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES. 20:12.545 --> 20:13.945 MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT IS 20:13.947 --> 20:14.312 THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING. 20:14.314 --> 20:15.446 HAPPENING. THEY KNOW THE PROCESS AND THAT 20:15.448 --> 20:17.682 THEY KNOW THE PROCESS AND THAT IS CONCERNING AS AN AGENT AND AS 20:17.684 --> 20:18.149 IS CONCERNING AS AN AGENT AND AS A CITIZEN. 20:18.151 --> 20:20.351 A CITIZEN. >> A LOT OF THESE KIDS ARE NOT 20:20.353 --> 20:22.420 >> A LOT OF THESE KIDS ARE NOT BEING BROUGHT OVER HERE BECAUSE 20:22.422 --> 20:23.221 BEING BROUGHT OVER HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE FLEEING SOMETHING 20:23.223 --> 20:24.422 THEY'RE FLEEING SOMETHING TERRIBLE IN THEIR COUNTRY. 20:24.424 --> 20:25.323 TERRIBLE IN THEIR COUNTRY. THEY'RE BEING TOLD TO COME 20:25.325 --> 20:26.857 THEY'RE BEING TOLD TO COME BECAUSE NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO 20:26.859 --> 20:28.059 BECAUSE NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO COME AND STAY. 20:28.061 --> 20:34.732 COME AND STAY. >> CORRECT, I'VE SAID IT MANY 20:34.734 --> 20:35.032 >> CORRECT, I'VE SAID IT MANY TIMES. 20:35.034 --> 20:36.634 TIMES. BY ATTATALKING TO THE INDIVIDUA 20:36.636 --> 20:38.069 BY ATTATALKING TO THE INDIVIDUA THEY THEMSELVES TOLD US HOW THEY 20:38.071 --> 20:38.469 THEY THEMSELVES TOLD US HOW THEY MAKE IT. 20:38.471 --> 20:40.805 MAKE IT. THEY SAY THE MEDIA, DOWN IN 20:40.807 --> 20:42.106 THEY SAY THE MEDIA, DOWN IN THEIR COUNTRY AND RELIGIOUS 20:42.108 --> 20:42.940 THEIR COUNTRY AND RELIGIOUS GROUPS TOLD THEM IN ADDITION TO 20:42.942 --> 20:44.976 GROUPS TOLD THEM IN ADDITION TO FAMILY MEMBERS AND PARENTS AND 20:44.978 --> 20:46.444 FAMILY MEMBERS AND PARENTS AND COUSINS AND BROTHERS AND 20:46.446 --> 20:47.778 COUSINS AND BROTHERS AND EVERYBODY ELSE ALREADY LIVING IN 20:47.780 --> 20:50.481 EVERYBODY ELSE ALREADY LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY. 20:50.483 --> 20:52.283 THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY. WE'RE APPREHENDING THEM AND 20:52.285 --> 20:55.453 WE'RE APPREHENDING THEM AND TURNING THEM OVER TO ICE, AND 20:55.455 --> 20:57.989 TURNING THEM OVER TO ICE, AND ICE FINDS THEM AND TURNS THEM TO 20:57.991 --> 21:01.058 ICE FINDS THEM AND TURNS THEM TO DIFFERENT AREAS, BY THAT, FAMILY 21:01.060 --> 21:02.360 DIFFERENT AREAS, BY THAT, FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES. 21:02.362 --> 21:04.161 MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES. BUT THEIR STATUS IN THE COUNTRY 21:04.163 --> 21:05.296 BUT THEIR STATUS IN THE COUNTRY THAT IS VERY CONCERNING. 21:05.298 --> 21:08.466 THAT IS VERY CONCERNING. >> I HEARD YOU ASKING THE BOYS 21:08.468 --> 21:09.967 >> I HEARD YOU ASKING THE BOYS QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY 21:09.969 --> 21:10.501 QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE BEEN PAID? 21:10.503 --> 21:12.236 YOU HAVE BEEN PAID? IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE AND 21:12.238 --> 21:13.271 IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE AND WHO YOU TALK TO. 21:13.273 --> 21:15.606 WHO YOU TALK TO. >> CORRECT, ONE SAID 4,000, 21:15.608 --> 21:18.376 >> CORRECT, ONE SAID 4,000, ANOTHER KID SAID $5,000, I SAID 21:18.378 --> 21:19.810 ANOTHER KID SAID $5,000, I SAID DID YOU PAY DIFFERENT MEXICAN 21:19.812 --> 21:20.911 DID YOU PAY DIFFERENT MEXICAN AUTHORITIES CROSSING THE 21:20.913 --> 21:21.279 AUTHORITIES CROSSING THE COUNTRY? 21:21.281 --> 21:24.515 COUNTRY? THEY SAID YEAH, ALONG THE WAY WE 21:24.517 --> 21:25.683 THEY SAID YEAH, ALONG THE WAY WE RAN INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT 21:25.685 --> 21:26.917 RAN INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEXICAN COPS AND AUTHORITIES. 21:26.919 --> 21:29.553 MEXICAN COPS AND AUTHORITIES. AND WE HAD TO PAY EACH ONE OF 21:29.555 --> 21:30.788 AND WE HAD TO PAY EACH ONE OF THEM A SEPARATE BRIBE IN ORDER 21:30.790 --> 21:32.256 THEM A SEPARATE BRIBE IN ORDER TO LET US IN THE COUNTRY. 21:32.258 --> 21:35.026 TO LET US IN THE COUNTRY. THAT IS VERY CONCERNING. 21:35.028 --> 21:37.094 THAT IS VERY CONCERNING. >> 800 TO A THOUSAND KIDS WE SAW 21:37.096 --> 21:37.395 >> 800 TO A THOUSAND KIDS WE SAW TODAY. 21:37.397 --> 21:38.896 TODAY. THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY. 21:38.898 --> 21:40.564 THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY. >> IT IS NOT GOING AWAY. 21:40.566 --> 21:42.366 >> IT IS NOT GOING AWAY. TEXAS IS STILL GETTING HIT 21:42.368 --> 21:43.801 TEXAS IS STILL GETTING HIT PRETTY HARD. 21:43.803 --> 21:46.203 PRETTY HARD. LET'S NOT FORGET, ARIZONA, 60% 21:46.205 --> 21:48.572 LET'S NOT FORGET, ARIZONA, 60% OF THE DRUGS TAKEN IN OUR 21:48.574 --> 21:50.207 OF THE DRUGS TAKEN IN OUR COUNTRY IS IN OUR TUCSON SECTOR. 21:50.209 --> 21:53.944 COUNTRY IS IN OUR TUCSON SECTOR. YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOME 21:53.946 --> 21:54.378 YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOME REPERCUSSION. 21:54.380 --> 21:56.414 REPERCUSSION. YOU NEED TO SEND THE KIDS BACK 21:56.416 --> 21:57.615 YOU NEED TO SEND THE KIDS BACK AND QUESTION THEIR CONSULATE. 21:57.617 --> 21:59.383 AND QUESTION THEIR CONSULATE. THEIR CONSULATE HAS TO ASSUME 21:59.385 --> 21:59.884 THEIR CONSULATE HAS TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITIES. 21:59.886 --> 22:01.185 RESPONSIBILITIES. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GIVING 22:01.187 --> 22:01.585 I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GIVING INTERVIEWS. 22:01.587 --> 22:03.554 INTERVIEWS. WELL, THAT IS NOT HELPING 22:03.556 --> 22:04.021 WELL, THAT IS NOT HELPING ANYTHING. 22:04.023 --> 22:07.091 ANYTHING. YOU NEED TO ASSUME 22:07.093 --> 22:08.259 YOU NEED TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY. 22:08.261 --> 22:10.494 RESPONSIBILITY. THEY'RE YOU'RE COUNTRYMEN. 22:10.496 --> 22:13.397 THEY'RE YOU'RE COUNTRYMEN. YOU NEED TO ASSUME THAT 22:13.399 --> 22:14.131 YOU NEED TO ASSUME THAT RESPONSIBILITY THERE. 22:14.133 --> 22:20.304 RESPONSIBILITY THERE. >>> THE BUZZ NOW WITH MY 22:20.306 --> 22:23.074 >>> THE BUZZ NOW WITH MY COLLEAGUE, FERNANDO, THIS IS 22:23.076 --> 22:24.241 COLLEAGUE, FERNANDO, THIS IS REALLY BECOMING INTERNATIONAL 22:24.243 --> 22:25.676 REALLY BECOMING INTERNATIONAL NEWS, WHAT IS THE LATEST. 22:25.678 --> 22:28.512 NEWS, WHAT IS THE LATEST. >> WELL, SINCE WE LEFT ON 22:28.514 --> 22:29.480 >> WELL, SINCE WE LEFT ON WEDNESDAY WE HAVEN'T REALLY 22:29.482 --> 22:31.048 WEDNESDAY WE HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD MUCH FROM THE POLITICAL 22:31.050 --> 22:31.349 HEARD MUCH FROM THE POLITICAL WORLD. 22:31.351 --> 22:35.152 WORLD. WHEN THE KIDS FIRST ARRIVED IN 22:35.154 --> 22:36.921 WHEN THE KIDS FIRST ARRIVED IN ARIZONA THERE WAS A LOT MORE 22:36.923 --> 22:38.856 ARIZONA THERE WAS A LOT MORE TALK GOING ON WITH THE ELECTED 22:38.858 --> 22:39.223 TALK GOING ON WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. 22:39.225 --> 22:40.624 OFFICIALS. WHETHER IT WAS SECURE THE BORDER 22:40.626 --> 22:42.193 WHETHER IT WAS SECURE THE BORDER OR PASS IMMIGRATION REFORM. 22:42.195 --> 22:43.361 OR PASS IMMIGRATION REFORM. I ACTUALLY EXPECTED MORE 22:43.363 --> 22:45.329 I ACTUALLY EXPECTED MORE REACTION FROM THE POLITICAL 22:45.331 --> 22:48.199 REACTION FROM THE POLITICAL WORLD AFTER HAVING SEEN VIDEO 22:48.201 --> 22:49.200 WORLD AFTER HAVING SEEN VIDEO FOOTAGE OF WHAT IT LOOKS INSIDE 22:49.202 --> 22:50.201 FOOTAGE OF WHAT IT LOOKS INSIDE THE FACILITY. 22:50.203 --> 22:51.802 THE FACILITY. THE TALK HAS NOW SHIFTED TO 22:51.804 --> 22:52.436 THE TALK HAS NOW SHIFTED TO SOCIAL MEDIA. 22:52.438 --> 22:55.639 SOCIAL MEDIA. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THE QUOTE 22:55.641 --> 22:56.540 WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THE QUOTE UNQUOTE NORMAL PEOPLE. 22:56.542 --> 22:58.242 UNQUOTE NORMAL PEOPLE. REACTING TO WHAT THEY SAW, WHAT 22:58.244 --> 23:00.144 REACTING TO WHAT THEY SAW, WHAT WE'VE REPORTED ON, WHAT WE SAW 23:00.146 --> 23:00.745 WE'VE REPORTED ON, WHAT WE SAW INSIDE THE SHELTER. 23:00.747 --> 23:02.913 INSIDE THE SHELTER. THE CONDITIONS OF THE KIDS. 23:02.915 --> 23:03.981 THE CONDITIONS OF THE KIDS. SO THE CONVERSATION IS 23:03.983 --> 23:05.516 SO THE CONVERSATION IS DEFINITELY SHIFTING TO REGULAR 23:05.518 --> 23:05.850 DEFINITELY SHIFTING TO REGULAR PEOPLE. 23:05.852 --> 23:06.984 PEOPLE. >> AVERAGE PEOPLE WANTING TO 23:06.986 --> 23:08.085 >> AVERAGE PEOPLE WANTING TO KNOW HOW THEY CAN HELP. 23:08.087 --> 23:10.054 KNOW HOW THEY CAN HELP. THEY'RE OUTRAGED TO BE QUITE 23:10.056 --> 23:10.354 THEY'RE OUTRAGED TO BE QUITE FRANK. 23:10.356 --> 23:12.123 FRANK. SEEING THE PHOTOS AS WE CONTINUE 23:12.125 --> 23:13.991 SEEING THE PHOTOS AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE ON THIS PROGRAM. 23:13.993 --> 23:15.426 TO SEE ON THIS PROGRAM. LITTLE KIDS BEHIND CAGES. 23:15.428 --> 23:16.927 LITTLE KIDS BEHIND CAGES. NOT IDENTIFYING THEIR FACES. 23:16.929 --> 23:18.896 NOT IDENTIFYING THEIR FACES. A LOT OF KIDS ARE SLEEPING. 23:18.898 --> 23:20.464 A LOT OF KIDS ARE SLEEPING. THEY LOOK A LITTLE UPSET. 23:20.466 --> 23:22.032 THEY LOOK A LITTLE UPSET. SO A LITTLE SURPRISING THAT 23:22.034 --> 23:23.033 SO A LITTLE SURPRISING THAT WE'RE NOT HEARING ANYTHING FROM 23:23.035 --> 23:24.935 WE'RE NOT HEARING ANYTHING FROM THE POLITICAL SIDE OF THINGS. 23:24.937 --> 23:26.504 THE POLITICAL SIDE OF THINGS. BUT WE ARE HEARING THINGS. 23:26.506 --> 23:28.372 BUT WE ARE HEARING THINGS. YOU ARE IN ON THE WHITE HOUSE 23:28.374 --> 23:30.107 YOU ARE IN ON THE WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING REGARDING WHAT IS NEXT, 23:30.109 --> 23:32.576 BRIEFING REGARDING WHAT IS NEXT, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM 23:32.578 --> 23:32.877 HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE? 23:32.879 --> 23:34.645 HERE? >> WE HEARD FROM SENIOR WHITE 23:34.647 --> 23:37.148 >> WE HEARD FROM SENIOR WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS ABOUT THEY 23:37.150 --> 23:38.215 HOUSE OFFICIALS ABOUT THEY ANNOUNCED A FEW NEW PLANS. 23:38.217 --> 23:39.984 ANNOUNCED A FEW NEW PLANS. THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED 23:39.986 --> 23:41.619 THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED IN THESE PLANS. 23:41.621 --> 23:42.853 IN THESE PLANS. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING 23:42.855 --> 23:45.489 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SPEND ALMOST $10 MILLION TO 23:45.491 --> 23:49.493 TO SPEND ALMOST $10 MILLION TO SUPPORT CENTRAL AMERICAN 23:49.495 --> 23:54.331 SUPPORT CENTRAL AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS IN EL SALVADOR. 23:54.333 --> 23:56.233 GOVERNMENTS IN EL SALVADOR. SOME OF THE COUNTRIES THEY'RE 23:56.235 --> 23:57.067 SOME OF THE COUNTRIES THEY'RE COMING FROM. 23:57.069 --> 23:59.236 COMING FROM. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS 23:59.238 --> 24:01.305 AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO GIVE MILLIONS TO WORK 24:01.307 --> 24:03.240 GOING TO GIVE MILLIONS TO WORK WITH LESSENING THE EFFECT OF 24:03.242 --> 24:04.675 WITH LESSENING THE EFFECT OF GANGS AND THE PUSH THAT THEY'RE 24:04.677 --> 24:06.076 GANGS AND THE PUSH THAT THEY'RE HAVING ON SOME OF THIS YOUTH. 24:06.078 --> 24:07.511 HAVING ON SOME OF THIS YOUTH. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS 24:07.513 --> 24:10.181 AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE KIDS ARE COMING HERE TO 24:10.183 --> 24:12.316 WHY THE KIDS ARE COMING HERE TO AVOID THAT KIND OF VIOLENCE. 24:12.318 --> 24:13.484 AVOID THAT KIND OF VIOLENCE. THE WHITE HOUSE ALSO ANNOUNCED 24:13.486 --> 24:15.386 THE WHITE HOUSE ALSO ANNOUNCED THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON 24:15.388 --> 24:16.587 THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON -- THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY 24:16.589 --> 24:18.722 -- THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE MORE KIDS, 24:18.724 --> 24:22.193 TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE MORE KIDS, TO BE ABLE TO DETAIN MORE KIDS 24:22.195 --> 24:24.395 TO BE ABLE TO DETAIN MORE KIDS TO GO THROUGH THE DETENTION AND 24:24.397 --> 24:27.131 TO GO THROUGH THE DETENTION AND THE PROCESSING PART A LITTLE BIT 24:27.133 --> 24:27.465 THE PROCESSING PART A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. 24:27.467 --> 24:29.066 QUICKER. THEY'RE ALSO ADDING MONEY FOR 24:29.068 --> 24:31.135 THEY'RE ALSO ADDING MONEY FOR IMMIGRATION COURTS SO THE 24:31.137 --> 24:32.703 IMMIGRATION COURTS SO THE HEARINGS CAN BE HEARD SOONER. 24:32.705 --> 24:34.572 HEARINGS CAN BE HEARD SOONER. SO THEY CAN START TO DEPORT SOME 24:34.574 --> 24:35.806 SO THEY CAN START TO DEPORT SOME OF THE KIDS SOONER. 24:35.808 --> 24:37.641 OF THE KIDS SOONER. >> SO PEOPLE MAY BE WATCHING 24:37.643 --> 24:39.944 >> SO PEOPLE MAY BE WATCHING THIS AND WONDER WHY ARE WE NOT 24:39.946 --> 24:41.445 THIS AND WONDER WHY ARE WE NOT AS THE UNITED STATES JUST 24:41.447 --> 24:43.414 AS THE UNITED STATES JUST SENDING THE CHILDREN BACK? 24:43.416 --> 24:44.915 SENDING THE CHILDREN BACK? INSTEAD WE'RE LITERALLY WRITING 24:44.917 --> 24:46.150 INSTEAD WE'RE LITERALLY WRITING THE CHECK TO THEIR GOVERNMENTS 24:46.152 --> 24:48.586 THE CHECK TO THEIR GOVERNMENTS AND SAYING HERE IS TO MAYBE HELP 24:48.588 --> 24:50.387 AND SAYING HERE IS TO MAYBE HELP TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION DOWN 24:50.389 --> 24:50.721 TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION DOWN THERE. 24:50.723 --> 24:52.289 THERE. >> THE ISSUE WITH THE CENTRAL 24:52.291 --> 24:53.791 >> THE ISSUE WITH THE CENTRAL AMERICAN CHILDREN IS TREATED 24:53.793 --> 24:55.092 AMERICAN CHILDREN IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN MEXICAN 24:55.094 --> 24:55.459 DIFFERENTLY THAN MEXICAN CHILDREN. 24:55.461 --> 24:57.561 CHILDREN. AND BY LAW THE U.S. CAN, SORT OF 24:57.563 --> 24:59.129 AND BY LAW THE U.S. CAN, SORT OF IF YOU AND I WERE COMING 24:59.131 --> 25:02.233 IF YOU AND I WERE COMING TOGETHER AND CROSSING THE BORDER 25:02.235 --> 25:03.734 TOGETHER AND CROSSING THE BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU'RE FROM CENTRAL 25:03.736 --> 25:07.004 ILLEGALLY, YOU'RE FROM CENTRAL AMERICA, I'M FROM MEXICO, YOU 25:07.006 --> 25:09.173 AMERICA, I'M FROM MEXICO, YOU GET SENT AROUND AND SENT BACK 25:09.175 --> 25:10.140 GET SENT AROUND AND SENT BACK QUICKER THERE. 25:10.142 --> 25:12.476 QUICKER THERE. WITH CENTRAL AMERICAN KIDS THEY 25:12.478 --> 25:13.978 WITH CENTRAL AMERICAN KIDS THEY ARE TREATED COMPLETELY 25:13.980 --> 25:14.378 ARE TREATED COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY. 25:14.380 --> 25:16.247 DIFFERENTLY. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A 25:16.249 --> 25:17.781 THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS, THEY'RE PUT 25:17.783 --> 25:19.383 DIFFERENT PROCESS, THEY'RE PUT IN DETENTION CENTERS AND THE 25:19.385 --> 25:21.252 IN DETENTION CENTERS AND THE PROCESS IS MUCH LONGER. 25:21.254 --> 25:22.453 PROCESS IS MUCH LONGER. >> HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE WE 25:22.455 --> 25:23.621 >> HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT? 25:23.623 --> 25:26.323 TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT? >> I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBERS WE 25:26.325 --> 25:29.560 >> I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBERS WE GOT AT THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS 25:29.562 --> 25:30.594 GOT AT THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CALL. 25:30.596 --> 25:33.864 CALL. 15,000 AT LEAST UNACCOMPANIED 25:33.866 --> 25:36.066 15,000 AT LEAST UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN HAVE BEEN CROSSING THE 25:36.068 --> 25:39.436 CHILDREN HAVE BEEN CROSSING THE BORDER SINCE JUNE. 25:39.438 --> 25:42.540 BORDER SINCE JUNE. THAT NUMBER HAS SKYROCKETED 25:42.542 --> 25:43.474 THAT NUMBER HAS SKYROCKETED SINCE PREVIOUS YEARS. 25:43.476 --> 25:45.876 SINCE PREVIOUS YEARS. WE KNOW THAT ABOUT 2,000 KIDS 25:45.878 --> 25:46.977 WE KNOW THAT ABOUT 2,000 KIDS HAVE GONE IN AND OUT. 25:46.979 --> 25:48.479 HAVE GONE IN AND OUT. ABOUT A THOUSAND AT EACH TIME. 25:48.481 --> 25:50.114 ABOUT A THOUSAND AT EACH TIME. >> OKAY, AND WHAT IS NEXT FOR 25:50.116 --> 25:52.316 >> OKAY, AND WHAT IS NEXT FOR THEM IS SOME OF THEM MAY BE 25:52.318 --> 25:56.453 THEM IS SOME OF THEM MAY BE TRANSFERRED TO SOME MILITARY 25:56.455 --> 25:57.187 TRANSFERRED TO SOME MILITARY FACILITIES AS ANOTHER TEMPORARY 25:57.189 --> 25:57.688 FACILITIES AS ANOTHER TEMPORARY HOME, IF YOU WILL. 25:57.690 --> 25:58.722 HOME, IF YOU WILL. AND THERE MAY BE SOME CONNECTION 25:58.724 --> 26:00.724 AND THERE MAY BE SOME CONNECTION WITH THEIR FAMILIES AT THAT 26:00.726 --> 26:01.025 WITH THEIR FAMILIES AT THAT POINT? 26:01.027 --> 26:02.993 POINT? >> YEAH, SO THESE KIDS, A LOT OF 26:02.995 --> 26:06.730 >> YEAH, SO THESE KIDS, A LOT OF THEM DON'T WANT TO END UP IN 26:06.732 --> 26:07.865 THEM DON'T WANT TO END UP IN TEXAS OR ARIZONA. 26:07.867 --> 26:10.200 TEXAS OR ARIZONA. THEY HAVE FAMILIES THEY WANTED 26:10.202 --> 26:12.102 THEY HAVE FAMILIES THEY WANTED TO MEET IN OTHER STATES. 26:12.104 --> 26:13.571 TO MEET IN OTHER STATES. THEY WANT TO BE SENT TO HEALTH 26:13.573 --> 26:17.041 THEY WANT TO BE SENT TO HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SO THE OFFICE 26:17.043 --> 26:20.177 AND HUMAN SERVICES SO THE OFFICE OF THE CONSULATE CAN MEET FOR 26:20.179 --> 26:28.285 OF THE CONSULATE CAN MEET FOR THE REUNIFICATION PROCESS. 26:28.287 --> 26:31.155 THE REUNIFICATION PROCESS. THE TUCSON CITY COUNCIL HAS 26:31.157 --> 26:34.224 THE TUCSON CITY COUNCIL HAS GIVEN AN MAJOR PERMIT, FOR 26:34.226 --> 26:36.660 GIVEN AN MAJOR PERMIT, FOR SOUTHWEST KEY, TO OPEN A 26:36.662 --> 26:37.294 SOUTHWEST KEY, TO OPEN A PROCESSING CENTER. 26:37.296 --> 26:40.264 PROCESSING CENTER. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF JOBS 26:40.266 --> 26:41.832 THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF JOBS POSTED, 100 AND SOMETHING JOBS 26:41.834 --> 26:44.668 POSTED, 100 AND SOMETHING JOBS FOR YOUTH CARE WORKERS, COOKS, 26:44.670 --> 26:45.002 FOR YOUTH CARE WORKERS, COOKS, NURSES. 26:45.004 --> 26:46.570 NURSES. WE'RE GOING TO START TO SEE SOME 26:46.572 --> 26:48.772 WE'RE GOING TO START TO SEE SOME KIDS COME TO TUCSON, THEY COULD 26:48.774 --> 26:50.941 KIDS COME TO TUCSON, THEY COULD BE COMING FROM THE NOGALES 26:50.943 --> 26:53.978 BE COMING FROM THE NOGALES WAREHOUSE OR OTHER PARTS OF THE 26:53.980 --> 26:54.345 WAREHOUSE OR OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. 26:54.347 --> 26:56.046 COUNTRY. >> IS THERE ANYONE FEARING GOING 26:56.048 --> 26:57.881 >> IS THERE ANYONE FEARING GOING TO PICK UP THEIR CHILD AND 26:57.883 --> 27:00.551 TO PICK UP THEIR CHILD AND FACING A SORT OF REPERCUSSION, 27:00.553 --> 27:02.920 FACING A SORT OF REPERCUSSION, BEING LABELLED AS POSSIBLY 27:02.922 --> 27:05.389 BEING LABELLED AS POSSIBLY IMMIGRANTS AND POSSIBLY FACING 27:05.391 --> 27:05.723 IMMIGRANTS AND POSSIBLY FACING ARREST? 27:05.725 --> 27:08.225 ARREST? >> FROM WHAT WE'RE TOLD FROM THE 27:08.227 --> 27:09.627 >> FROM WHAT WE'RE TOLD FROM THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE 27:09.629 --> 27:11.695 HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE OFFICES, THE KIDS ARE TAKEN FROM 27:11.697 --> 27:12.696 OFFICES, THE KIDS ARE TAKEN FROM IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS TO 27:12.698 --> 27:14.798 IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS TO HUMANITARIAN WORKERS WITH THE 27:14.800 --> 27:15.899 HUMANITARIAN WORKERS WITH THE OFFICE OF REFUGEES. 27:15.901 --> 27:18.702 OFFICE OF REFUGEES. SO WE'RE TOLD THAT THE PARENTS, 27:18.704 --> 27:20.204 SO WE'RE TOLD THAT THE PARENTS, THE IMMIGRATION STATUS IS NOT 27:20.206 --> 27:25.643 THE IMMIGRATION STATUS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS 27:25.645 --> 27:28.512 SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS INQUIRING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO 27:28.514 --> 27:29.113 INQUIRING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO HANDLING THE CHILDREN. 27:29.115 --> 27:30.347 HANDLING THE CHILDREN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR 27:30.349 --> 27:30.714 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. 27:30.716 --> 27:31.982 ANALYSIS. THAT IS OUR PROGRAM. 27:31.984 --> 27:33.117 THAT IS OUR PROGRAM. ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA WILL 27:33.119 --> 27:33.951 ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA WILL CONTINUE TO COVER THE 27:33.953 --> 27:35.419 CONTINUE TO COVER THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM TAKING PLACE 27:35.421 --> 27:36.320 IMMIGRATION SYSTEM TAKING PLACE IN NOGALES. 27:36.322 --> 27:40.090 IN NOGALES. AND BE SURE TO VISIT US, AS WE 27:40.092 --> 27:42.226 AND BE SURE TO VISIT US, AS WE VISIT THE AREA ONE YEAR AFTER 27:42.228 --> 27:46.230 VISIT THE AREA ONE YEAR AFTER THE DEVASTATING WILDFIRE. 27:46.232 --> 27:47.797 THE DEVASTATING WILDFIRE. FOR ALL OF