.
>>> AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE

>>> AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE
TEMPORARY HOME OF NEARLY A

TEMPORARY HOME OF NEARLY A
THOUSAND UNDOCUMENTED CHILDREN

THOUSAND UNDOCUMENTED CHILDREN
FROM CENTRAL AMERICA.

FROM CENTRAL AMERICA.
>> WE'RE KIND OF GOING TO SEE

>> WE'RE KIND OF GOING TO SEE
WHAT THE AGENCY IS GOING TO DO.

WHAT THE AGENCY IS GOING TO DO.
>> FEW QUESTIONS ASKED WITH

>> FEW QUESTIONS ASKED WITH
LIMITED ANSWERS, WHY ARE THE

LIMITED ANSWERS, WHY ARE THE
CHILDREN COMING AND WHAT IS NEXT

CHILDREN COMING AND WHAT IS NEXT
FOR THEM.

FOR THEM.
>> I THINK A LOT OF THIS WAS --

>> I THINK A LOT OF THIS WAS --
I THINK IT WAS PLANNED BECAUSE

I THINK IT WAS PLANNED BECAUSE
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY KIDS

WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY KIDS
THAT ARE ACTUALLY TURNING

THAT ARE ACTUALLY TURNING
THEMSELVES OVER TO BORDER

THEMSELVES OVER TO BORDER
PATROL.

PATROL.
AND IN ADDITION WHEN THEY'RE

AND IN ADDITION WHEN THEY'RE
DOING ARRESTED THEY ALREADY HAVE

DOING ARRESTED THEY ALREADY HAVE
PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY

PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES.

MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> ALONG FOR BORDER IN NOGALES,

>> ALONG FOR BORDER IN NOGALES,
THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."

THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
IT HAS BEEN TWO WEEKS SINCE

IT HAS BEEN TWO WEEKS SINCE
HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN BEGAN

HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN BEGAN
ARRIVING IN NOGALES FOR

ARRIVING IN NOGALES FOR
PROCESSING.

PROCESSING.
THE CHILDREN UNDOCUMENTED

THE CHILDREN UNDOCUMENTED
IMMIGRANTS, THE MAJORITY FROM

IMMIGRANTS, THE MAJORITY FROM
CENTRAL AMERICA CROSSED INTO THE

CENTRAL AMERICA CROSSED INTO THE
U.S. THROUGH TEXAS.

U.S. THROUGH TEXAS.
IMMIGRATION FACILITIES THERE,

IMMIGRATION FACILITIES THERE,
THOUGH, UNABLE TO HANDLE THE

THOUGH, UNABLE TO HANDLE THE
INFLUX.

INFLUX.
SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS

SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
TRANSPORTING MANY OF THE

TRANSPORTING MANY OF THE
CHILDREN TO NOGALES.

CHILDREN TO NOGALES.
THIS PAST WEDNESDAY, THE

THIS PAST WEDNESDAY, THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
ALLOWED MEMBERS OF THE PRESS

ALLOWED MEMBERS OF THE PRESS
INTO WHAT THE AGENCY CALLED A

INTO WHAT THE AGENCY CALLED A
TRANSITION POINT.

TRANSITION POINT.
>> DHS JUST ALLOWED THE MEDIA IN

>> DHS JUST ALLOWED THE MEDIA IN
ON A TOUR, I'M JOINED BY MY

ON A TOUR, I'M JOINED BY MY
COLLEAGUE FROM ARIZONA PUBLIC

COLLEAGUE FROM ARIZONA PUBLIC
MEDIA, AND ALSO FROM THE ARIZONA

MEDIA, AND ALSO FROM THE ARIZONA
DAILY STAR, LADIES, THANK YOU SO

DAILY STAR, LADIES, THANK YOU SO
MUCH.

MUCH.
LET'S START WITH YOU, TALKING

LET'S START WITH YOU, TALKING
ABOUT SOME OF THE IMAGES WE SAW

ABOUT SOME OF THE IMAGES WE SAW
THERE.

THERE.
THE CHILDREN LOOKING AT US YET

THE CHILDREN LOOKING AT US YET
WE COULD NOT TALK TO THEM.

WE COULD NOT TALK TO THEM.
>> YES, IF WE WALKED IN, FIRST

>> YES, IF WE WALKED IN, FIRST
OUTSIDE THE FACILITY THERE WAS

OUTSIDE THE FACILITY THERE WAS
THE RECREATION AREA.

THE RECREATION AREA.
SOME OF THE KIDS WERE PLAYING.

SOME OF THE KIDS WERE PLAYING.
BUT AS WE WALKED IN, WE WALKED

BUT AS WE WALKED IN, WE WALKED
RIGHT BY THE IN-TAKE AREA AND

RIGHT BY THE IN-TAKE AREA AND
THE DETENTION AREA.

THE DETENTION AREA.
AND SOME OF THEM HAD KIND OF A

AND SOME OF THEM HAD KIND OF A
SAD EXPRESSION.

SAD EXPRESSION.
THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE

THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE
PLAYING SOCCER AND PLAYING WITH

PLAYING SOCCER AND PLAYING WITH
THE BALL AND LAUGHING.

THE BALL AND LAUGHING.
ONE KID WAVED AT US.

ONE KID WAVED AT US.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WONDER WHAT

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WONDER WHAT
THE STORIES BEHIND THOSE FACES

THE STORIES BEHIND THOSE FACES
ARE.

ARE.
WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?

WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?
WHAT HAVE THEY EXPERIENCED?

WHAT HAVE THEY EXPERIENCED?
AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE NOT

AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE NOT
ABLE TO TALK TO ANY OF THEM OR

ABLE TO TALK TO ANY OF THEM OR
WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED WITH

WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED WITH
THEM.

THEM.
>> AND CARLA, YOU AND I BEING

>> AND CARLA, YOU AND I BEING
MOTHERS, IT IS ESPECIALLY

MOTHERS, IT IS ESPECIALLY
DIFFICULT TO SEE THE LITTLE

DIFFICULT TO SEE THE LITTLE
FACES THERE WITHOUT THEIR

FACES THERE WITHOUT THEIR
PARENTS.

PARENTS.
>> EXACTLY, BECAUSE AS A

>> EXACTLY, BECAUSE AS A
JOURNALIST, YOU'RE A MOTHER

JOURNALIST, YOU'RE A MOTHER
FIRST.

FIRST.
THAT IS HOW I ALWAYS WRITE MY

THAT IS HOW I ALWAYS WRITE MY
STORIES.

STORIES.
AS A MOTHER, AND YOU SEE THESE

AS A MOTHER, AND YOU SEE THESE
LITTLE CHILDREN AND YOU DON'T

LITTLE CHILDREN AND YOU DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE

UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE
THINKING.

THINKING.
AND I WAS LOOKING AT THIS LITTLE

AND I WAS LOOKING AT THIS LITTLE
GIRL, SHE WAS LAYING DOWN, I

GIRL, SHE WAS LAYING DOWN, I
WANTED TO GIVE HER A SMILE, SO

WANTED TO GIVE HER A SMILE, SO
SHE GAVE ME A SMILE BACK.

SHE GAVE ME A SMILE BACK.
I FELT GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I FELT GOOD ABOUT THAT.
AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT I SEE

AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT I SEE
A 2-YEAR-OLD, THEN I SEE ANOTHER

A 2-YEAR-OLD, THEN I SEE ANOTHER
BABY, AND THEN I SEE A PREGNANT

BABY, AND THEN I SEE A PREGNANT
GIRL.

GIRL.
AND THEN I'M LIKE OH, MY

AND THEN I'M LIKE OH, MY
GOODNESS, THIS IS WAY OUT OF

GOODNESS, THIS IS WAY OUT OF
HAND AND WE HAVE THEM IN THESE

HAND AND WE HAVE THEM IN THESE
CONDITIONS.

CONDITIONS.
TALKING ABOUT THE CONDITIONS,

TALKING ABOUT THE CONDITIONS,
THEY'RE NOT BAD, THEY HAVE

THEY'RE NOT BAD, THEY HAVE
MATTRESSES AND OTHER THINGS IN

MATTRESSES AND OTHER THINGS IN
THERE THAT ARE MAKING THE STAY A

THERE THAT ARE MAKING THE STAY A
LITTLE BIT BETTER.

LITTLE BIT BETTER.
BUT STILL, THEY'RE CHILDREN

BUT STILL, THEY'RE CHILDREN
BEHIND BARS, THAT BREAKS MY

BEHIND BARS, THAT BREAKS MY
HEART.

HEART.
>> AND START US OFF ON THIS.

>> AND START US OFF ON THIS.
WE STARTED OUTSIDE AND WENT

WE STARTED OUTSIDE AND WENT
INSIDE.

INSIDE.
>> WE DID, AS SHE SAID, THERE

>> WE DID, AS SHE SAID, THERE
WAS AN OUTSIDE AREA SET UP.

WAS AN OUTSIDE AREA SET UP.
A LITTLE TENT, THERE WERE SOCCER

A LITTLE TENT, THERE WERE SOCCER
BALLS, THEY HAVE HULA HOOPS.

BALLS, THEY HAVE HULA HOOPS.
A LITTLE GIRL WAS PLAYING, AND I

A LITTLE GIRL WAS PLAYING, AND I
SAW AN AGENT PLAYING SOCCER WITH

SAW AN AGENT PLAYING SOCCER WITH
THEM WHILE SHE WAS WEARING HER

THEM WHILE SHE WAS WEARING HER
LATEX GLOVES.

LATEX GLOVES.
AND WE SAW THE INDIVIDUAL

AND WE SAW THE INDIVIDUAL
SHOWERS IN THE TRAILERS SO THE

SHOWERS IN THE TRAILERS SO THE
KIDS DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF

KIDS DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF
PRIVACY.

PRIVACY.
WE GET TO SEE THE MAKESHIFT SORT

WE GET TO SEE THE MAKESHIFT SORT
OF LAUNDROMAT THEY PUT OUT IN

OF LAUNDROMAT THEY PUT OUT IN
ONE OF THE TRAILERS.

ONE OF THE TRAILERS.
AS SHE MENTIONED WE SAW THE

AS SHE MENTIONED WE SAW THE
IN-TAKE AREA.

IN-TAKE AREA.
AND YOU GOT TO SEE THE KIDS, WHO

AND YOU GOT TO SEE THE KIDS, WHO
GOT.

GOT.
>> THE KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE

>> THE KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE
IN A WHILE, MOST OF THEM WORE

IN A WHILE, MOST OF THEM WORE
THE CLOTHES THAT THEY CAME IN.

THE CLOTHES THAT THEY CAME IN.
A LOT OF OTHER KIDS, WE LEARNED

A LOT OF OTHER KIDS, WE LEARNED
-- AT LEAST I DIDN'T KNOW THEY

-- AT LEAST I DIDN'T KNOW THEY
PUT THEM IN UNIFORMS.

PUT THEM IN UNIFORMS.
THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING THEM NAVY

THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING THEM NAVY
BLUE KIND OF BASKETBALL SHORTS

BLUE KIND OF BASKETBALL SHORTS
AND A WHITE T-SHIRT.

AND A WHITE T-SHIRT.
SO THE KIDS THERE DRESSED LIKE

SO THE KIDS THERE DRESSED LIKE
THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH

THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH
THE SHOWERS AND HAVE ALREADY

THE SHOWERS AND HAVE ALREADY
BEEN HERE AT LEAST -- THE KIDS

BEEN HERE AT LEAST -- THE KIDS
THAT JUST GOT HERE.

THAT JUST GOT HERE.
WE GOT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT WHERE

WE GOT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT WHERE
THEY'RE EATING.

THEY'RE EATING.
THE TWO SITTING AREAS, EACH AREA

THE TWO SITTING AREAS, EACH AREA
HOLDS ABOUT 200 KIDS, WHERE THEY

HOLDS ABOUT 200 KIDS, WHERE THEY
EAT BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER.

EAT BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER.
WE ALSO GOT TO SEE -- I REMEMBER

WE ALSO GOT TO SEE -- I REMEMBER
LOOKING RIGHT BY THE EATING

LOOKING RIGHT BY THE EATING
AREA, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF

AREA, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF
WATER BOTTLES.

WATER BOTTLES.
I SAW HUNDREDS OF LITTLE GOLD

I SAW HUNDREDS OF LITTLE GOLD
FISH CRACKERS FOR THE KIDS.

FISH CRACKERS FOR THE KIDS.
WE GOT TO SEE.

WE GOT TO SEE.
IT WAS A RESTRICTED TOUR.

IT WAS A RESTRICTED TOUR.
AS THEY SAID, WE DIDN'T GET TO

AS THEY SAID, WE DIDN'T GET TO
TALK TO THE KIDS BUT WE GOT TO

TALK TO THE KIDS BUT WE GOT TO
SEE PART OF WHERE THEY WERE.

SEE PART OF WHERE THEY WERE.
ONE THING THAT STUCK WITH ME WAS

ONE THING THAT STUCK WITH ME WAS
A LITTLE BOY CLOSER TO THE

A LITTLE BOY CLOSER TO THE
IN-TAKE AREA.

IN-TAKE AREA.
BY THE WAY, THEY REMOVED ALL THE

BY THE WAY, THEY REMOVED ALL THE
SHOE LACES FROM ALL OF THEIR

SHOE LACES FROM ALL OF THEIR
SHOES.

SHOES.
AND THIS LITTLE BOY WAS ABOUT 10

AND THIS LITTLE BOY WAS ABOUT 10
YEARS OLD WITH HIS FOREHEAD

YEARS OLD WITH HIS FOREHEAD
LEANED UP THE CHAIN LINK FENCE,

LEANED UP THE CHAIN LINK FENCE,
AND WAS CRYING.

AND WAS CRYING.
AND IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES FOR A

AND IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES FOR A
FEMALE BORDER PATROL AGENT TO GO

FEMALE BORDER PATROL AGENT TO GO
AND TALK TO HIM.

AND TALK TO HIM.
BUT IT DOES PUT THIS WHOLE THING

BUT IT DOES PUT THIS WHOLE THING
IN PERSPECTIVE, ONCE YOU SEE

IN PERSPECTIVE, ONCE YOU SEE
THEM.

THEM.
>> AND WE DO KNOW THEY'RE TRYING

>> AND WE DO KNOW THEY'RE TRYING
TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AS WELL AS

TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AS WELL AS
THEY CAN.

THEY CAN.
THEY'RE CHANGING THE FOOD, AND

THEY'RE CHANGING THE FOOD, AND
IF YOU WOULD TAKE US BACK INTO

IF YOU WOULD TAKE US BACK INTO
WHEN YOU JUST SEE THAT MASS

WHEN YOU JUST SEE THAT MASS
AMOUNT OF CHILDREN.

AMOUNT OF CHILDREN.
AND THEN THE FOIL SHEETS, VERY

AND THEN THE FOIL SHEETS, VERY
THIN MATTRESSES.

THIN MATTRESSES.
YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THINK THIS

YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THINK THIS
IS A HUGE ISSUE.

IS A HUGE ISSUE.
>> THE MATTRESSES WERE ABOUT

>> THE MATTRESSES WERE ABOUT
FOUR INCHES BIG, BEFORE THAT

FOUR INCHES BIG, BEFORE THAT
THEY WERE SLEEPING ON PLASTIC

THEY WERE SLEEPING ON PLASTIC
COTS AND THE MATTRESSES CAME IN

COTS AND THE MATTRESSES CAME IN
LATER.

LATER.
BUT YOU WALK IN THE IN-TAKE

BUT YOU WALK IN THE IN-TAKE
AREA.

AREA.
YOU HARDLY SEE CONCRETE.

YOU HARDLY SEE CONCRETE.
IT WAS BASICALLY ALL COVER.

IT WAS BASICALLY ALL COVER.
AND THE MATTRESSES HAVE A BORDER

AND THE MATTRESSES HAVE A BORDER
PATROL GREEN COVER.

PATROL GREEN COVER.
AND SO YOU HAVE KIND OF ALL OF

AND SO YOU HAVE KIND OF ALL OF
THIS GREEN.

THIS GREEN.
AND SOME OF THE KIDS LAYING

AND SOME OF THE KIDS LAYING
DOWN.

DOWN.
BUT IT DOES TELL YOU THE

BUT IT DOES TELL YOU THE
MAGNITUDE OF THE AREA BECAUSE OF

MAGNITUDE OF THE AREA BECAUSE OF
THE PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM.
THIS AREA OF THE KIDS BEING

THIS AREA OF THE KIDS BEING
TRANSFERRED FROM TEXAS, WE HEARD

TRANSFERRED FROM TEXAS, WE HEARD
THAT THEY'RE COMING TO TUCSON,

THAT THEY'RE COMING TO TUCSON,
JUST IMAGINE HOW TEXAS LOOKS.

JUST IMAGINE HOW TEXAS LOOKS.
IF THEY'RE BRINGING THEM HERE,

IF THEY'RE BRINGING THEM HERE,
AND YOU KNOW FROM THE PICTURES

AND YOU KNOW FROM THE PICTURES
LEAKED TO THE MEDIA YOU CAN SEE

LEAKED TO THE MEDIA YOU CAN SEE
THE OVERCROWDING, A MUCH BIGGER

THE OVERCROWDING, A MUCH BIGGER
ISSUE.

ISSUE.
>> IF YOU SEE HOW THIS IS BEING

>> IF YOU SEE HOW THIS IS BEING
TREATED BY THE MEDIA, I THINK

TREATED BY THE MEDIA, I THINK
SPANISH MEDIA IS COVERING THIS

SPANISH MEDIA IS COVERING THIS
MUCH MORE THAN THE AMERICAN

MUCH MORE THAN THE AMERICAN
PRESS.

PRESS.
>> WE STARTED TRYING TO KEEP UP

>> WE STARTED TRYING TO KEEP UP
WITH THE SITUATION, BEING HERE,

WITH THE SITUATION, BEING HERE,
WHY ARE THEY COMING?

WHY ARE THEY COMING?
WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THEM HERE?

WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THEM HERE?
BECAUSE TWO THURSDAYS AGO WE GOT

BECAUSE TWO THURSDAYS AGO WE GOT
A CALL FROM ICE, AND THEY TOLD

A CALL FROM ICE, AND THEY TOLD
US NO MORE KIDS, NO MORE MINORS,

US NO MORE KIDS, NO MORE MINORS,
WOMEN AND CHILDREN WILL BE

WOMEN AND CHILDREN WILL BE
TRANSFERRED FROM TEXAS TO

TRANSFERRED FROM TEXAS TO
ARIZONA.

ARIZONA.
THE VERY NEXT DAY WE GOT 400

THE VERY NEXT DAY WE GOT 400
KIDS.

KIDS.
THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE A PLAY ON

THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE A PLAY ON
WORDS THEY PLAYED WITH THE

WORDS THEY PLAYED WITH THE
MEDIA.

MEDIA.
SO TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE

SO TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE
STORY SINCE THAT MOMENT AND

STORY SINCE THAT MOMENT AND
TRYING TO FIND ANGLES TO THIS

TRYING TO FIND ANGLES TO THIS
STORY.

STORY.
WHY ARE THE KIDS COMING?

WHY ARE THE KIDS COMING?
WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?

WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?
IN SALVADOR, AND OTHER

IN SALVADOR, AND OTHER
COUNTRIES, ARE THEY LEAVING

COUNTRIES, ARE THEY LEAVING
BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE?

BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE?
JUNE AND JULY, THE TWO DEADLIEST

JUNE AND JULY, THE TWO DEADLIEST
MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
ARE THE BORDERS, SHOULD THEY BE

ARE THE BORDERS, SHOULD THEY BE
OUT ON THE BORDER TAKING CARE OF

OUT ON THE BORDER TAKING CARE OF
MATTERS OR ARE THEY HERE?

MATTERS OR ARE THEY HERE?
SO TRYING TO MAKE THE STORY

SO TRYING TO MAKE THE STORY
FULL, NOT JUST OH, WE HAVE A

FULL, NOT JUST OH, WE HAVE A
BUNCH OF KIDS IN THE DETENTION

BUNCH OF KIDS IN THE DETENTION
CENTER, WHAT DO WE DO?

CENTER, WHAT DO WE DO?
SO WHERE ARE THE SHELTERS?

SO WHERE ARE THE SHELTERS?
ONE IN TUCSON, THEN YOU HAVE THE

ONE IN TUCSON, THEN YOU HAVE THE
ONES GOING TO THE SHELTERS.

ONES GOING TO THE SHELTERS.
THEY'RE DIVIDING THEM BY AGE.

THEY'RE DIVIDING THEM BY AGE.
THAT IS HOW THEY DECIDE.

THAT IS HOW THEY DECIDE.
SOME KIDS WERE HERE FOR FIVE

SOME KIDS WERE HERE FOR FIVE
DAYS.

DAYS.
OTHERS CAME IN, TWO DAYS, THOSE

OTHERS CAME IN, TWO DAYS, THOSE
LEFT BEFORE THE ONES THEY HAD

LEFT BEFORE THE ONES THEY HAD
BEEN HERE FOR FIVE DAYS.

BEEN HERE FOR FIVE DAYS.
QUESTIONS LIKE THAT HAVE NEVER

QUESTIONS LIKE THAT HAVE NEVER
BEEN ANSWERED AND IT IS VERY,

BEEN ANSWERED AND IT IS VERY,
VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO EXPLAIN

VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO EXPLAIN
WHAT IS GOING ON WHEN WE DON'T

WHAT IS GOING ON WHEN WE DON'T
GOT THE ANSWERS WE NEED.

GOT THE ANSWERS WE NEED.
>> AND THE TRANSPARENCY WE

>> AND THE TRANSPARENCY WE
THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET

THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET
TODAY WAS REALLY HARD TO GET.

TODAY WAS REALLY HARD TO GET.
IF YOU CAN'T TALK TO THE SOURCE

IF YOU CAN'T TALK TO THE SOURCE
OF THE STORY HOW DO YOU TELL THE

OF THE STORY HOW DO YOU TELL THE
STORY ACCURATELY?

STORY ACCURATELY?
>> IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.

>> IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.
ALL OF US FELT THAT SENSE OF

ALL OF US FELT THAT SENSE OF
FRUSTRATION.

FRUSTRATION.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP OF

BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP OF
JOURNALISTS AND WHAT WE'RE TOLD

JOURNALISTS AND WHAT WE'RE TOLD
TO DO IS DON'T ASK QUESTIONS.

TO DO IS DON'T ASK QUESTIONS.
AND THEN -- I'M GLAD WE GOT TO

AND THEN -- I'M GLAD WE GOT TO
GO IN THERE.

GO IN THERE.
I THINK WE ALL CAN APPRECIATE

I THINK WE ALL CAN APPRECIATE
BEING GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO

BEING GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE.

SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE.
HOWEVER, THE TOUR WAS VERY

HOWEVER, THE TOUR WAS VERY
CONTROLLED AND WE HAD A

CONTROLLED AND WE HAD A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE

REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.
AND WHEN QUESTIONS GOT TO BE A

AND WHEN QUESTIONS GOT TO BE A
LITTLE TOO MUCH SHE MADE SURE TO

LITTLE TOO MUCH SHE MADE SURE TO
PUT A STOP TO THE BORDER PATROL

PUT A STOP TO THE BORDER PATROL
AGENT WHO WAS GIVING US

AGENT WHO WAS GIVING US
LOGISTICAL ANSWERS, THIS WAS NOT

LOGISTICAL ANSWERS, THIS WAS NOT
SO MUCH POLICY BUT US WANTING TO

SO MUCH POLICY BUT US WANTING TO
GET ANSWERS ABOUT THE LOGISTICS

GET ANSWERS ABOUT THE LOGISTICS
AND THE OPERATION THERE.

AND THE OPERATION THERE.
>> BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE DO

>> BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE DO
YOU BELIEVE WE'LL SEE MORE

YOU BELIEVE WE'LL SEE MORE
TRANSPARENCY IN THIS ISSUE?

TRANSPARENCY IN THIS ISSUE?
>> NO, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO BE

>> NO, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO BE
OPTIMISTIC.

OPTIMISTIC.
AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT IS

AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT IS
COMING FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL.

COMING FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
AND THEY'RE WANTING TO CONTROL.

AND THEY'RE WANTING TO CONTROL.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE MORE THIS IS

BUT YOU KNOW, THE MORE THIS IS
DRAGGED ON THE MORE STORIES

DRAGGED ON THE MORE STORIES
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.
THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO GET

THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO GET
PIECES OF INFORMATION FROM ALL

PIECES OF INFORMATION FROM ALL
OF THESE DIFFERENT SOURCES

OF THESE DIFFERENT SOURCES
INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT COME

INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT COME
FROM THE OFFICIAL SOURCE.

FROM THE OFFICIAL SOURCE.
AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS,

AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS,
THE COMPREHENSIVE, ACCURATE

THE COMPREHENSIVE, ACCURATE
STORY, ALL OF US WANT TO HAVE

STORY, ALL OF US WANT TO HAVE
ACCURATE AND BALANCED STORIES.

ACCURATE AND BALANCED STORIES.
IT IS SO HARD TO DO.

IT IS SO HARD TO DO.
UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW THEY'RE

UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW THEY'RE
TRYING.

TRYING.
IT IS A VERY SLOW PROCESS.

IT IS A VERY SLOW PROCESS.
WE'RE REQUESTING TO COME INTO

WE'RE REQUESTING TO COME INTO
THIS FACILITY.

THIS FACILITY.
SINCE IT OPENED, ALMOST TWO AND

SINCE IT OPENED, ALMOST TWO AND
A HALF WEEKS, WHICH COULD --

A HALF WEEKS, WHICH COULD --
BASE ON THE TOUR WE RECEIVE IT

BASE ON THE TOUR WE RECEIVE IT
COULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LITTLE

COULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LITTLE
EARLIER.

EARLIER.
I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING.

I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING.
I KNOW IT IS BUREAUCRACY OR --

I KNOW IT IS BUREAUCRACY OR --
LOGISTICS OR POLICY.

LOGISTICS OR POLICY.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T SEE

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T SEE
MUCH CHANGE COMING.

MUCH CHANGE COMING.
>> OKAY, LADIES, THANK YOU FOR

>> OKAY, LADIES, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR COVERAGE AND YOUR ANALYSIS.

YOUR COVERAGE AND YOUR ANALYSIS.
>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.
>> THE CHIEF OF THE TUCSON

>> THE CHIEF OF THE TUCSON
SECTOR BORDER PATROL SAYS THE

SECTOR BORDER PATROL SAYS THE
FACILITY HAS FOUR PRIORITIES.

FACILITY HAS FOUR PRIORITIES.
TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE, HEALTHY,

TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE, HEALTHY,
NOURISHED AND CLEAN.

NOURISHED AND CLEAN.
THE CHIEF SAYS HE IS PROUD OF

THE CHIEF SAYS HE IS PROUD OF
THE EFFORTS THUS FAR.

THE EFFORTS THUS FAR.
MEANWHILE, THE MAYOR OF NOGALES

MEANWHILE, THE MAYOR OF NOGALES
WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CIVILIANS

WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CIVILIANS
TO VISIT THE FACILITY.

TO VISIT THE FACILITY.
HERE IS MY INTERVIEW WITH HIM

HERE IS MY INTERVIEW WITH HIM
ABOUT WHAT HE BELIEVES IS

ABOUT WHAT HE BELIEVES IS
HAPPENING IN NOGALES.

HAPPENING IN NOGALES.
>> EVERYBODY REALLY HAS EMBRACED

>> EVERYBODY REALLY HAS EMBRACED
IT AS A HUMANITARIAN -- I DON'T

IT AS A HUMANITARIAN -- I DON'T
WANT TO SAY CRISIS.

WANT TO SAY CRISIS.
BUT EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT THE

BUT EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT THE
KIDS.

KIDS.
AND THE CHILDREN.

AND THE CHILDREN.
I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN

I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
NOGALES.

NOGALES.
AND THEY WERE VERY GENEROUS WHEN

AND THEY WERE VERY GENEROUS WHEN
WE HAD THE CLOTHING DRIVE.

WE HAD THE CLOTHING DRIVE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
HAVE NOTICED, BY PEOPLE CALLING

HAVE NOTICED, BY PEOPLE CALLING
ME IS THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO

ME IS THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO
VOLUNTEER AND DO SOMETHING TO

VOLUNTEER AND DO SOMETHING TO
HELP THE CHILDREN BUT IT IS NOT

HELP THE CHILDREN BUT IT IS NOT
THAT EASY WITH THE PROTOCOL THAT

THAT EASY WITH THE PROTOCOL THAT
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS WHEN

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS WHEN
IT COMES TO THE PROCESSING

IT COMES TO THE PROCESSING
CENTER.

CENTER.
>> NOGALES IS REALLY IN THE

>> NOGALES IS REALLY IN THE
CROSS HAIRS NOW.

CROSS HAIRS NOW.
THIS INTERNATIONAL STORY.

THIS INTERNATIONAL STORY.
HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THAT AND

HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THAT AND
MAINTAINING THIS TOWN'S

MAINTAINING THIS TOWN'S
REPUTATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE KIND

REPUTATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE KIND
OF GETTING THIS IDEA THAT THIS

OF GETTING THIS IDEA THAT THIS
IS JUST A BIG FACILITY AT THIS

IS JUST A BIG FACILITY AT THIS
POINT HOUSING THESE CHILDREN?

POINT HOUSING THESE CHILDREN?
>> WELL, ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO

>> WELL, ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO
IN THE CITY OF NOGALES, BORDER

IN THE CITY OF NOGALES, BORDER
PATROL IS A GREAT PARTNER AND

PATROL IS A GREAT PARTNER AND
ACTUALLY HAS THE WHOLE SOUTHWEST

ACTUALLY HAS THE WHOLE SOUTHWEST
BORDER.

BORDER.
THAT IS WHY WE AS A MUNICIPALITY

THAT IS WHY WE AS A MUNICIPALITY
AND THOSE THAT ARE THERE TO

AND THOSE THAT ARE THERE TO
SUPPORT THE BORDER PATROL

SUPPORT THE BORDER PATROL
EFFORTS.

EFFORTS.
I KNOW WE'RE IN THE NEWS

I KNOW WE'RE IN THE NEWS
NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY BECAUSE

NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY BECAUSE
THEY COME THROUGH ME.

THEY COME THROUGH ME.
WE HAVE TO PUT THIS PERSPECTIVE

WE HAVE TO PUT THIS PERSPECTIVE
THAT THIS IS A PROCESS, NOT A

THAT THIS IS A PROCESS, NOT A
DETENTION CENTER.

DETENTION CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED A CRISIS BUT IF YOU

CONSIDERED A CRISIS BUT IF YOU
HAVE 48,000 CHILDREN IN TEXAS

HAVE 48,000 CHILDREN IN TEXAS
AND NOGALES BEING ONE OF THE

AND NOGALES BEING ONE OF THE
BIGGEST BORDER PATROL STATIONS

BIGGEST BORDER PATROL STATIONS
WITH THE TUCSON SECTOR IN THIS

WITH THE TUCSON SECTOR IN THIS
AREA, I'M SURE THAT THAT WAS THE

AREA, I'M SURE THAT THAT WAS THE
REASON, LOGICALLY BEHIND IT WHEN

REASON, LOGICALLY BEHIND IT WHEN
THEY SAID YOU KNOW WHAT?

THEY SAID YOU KNOW WHAT?
LET'S USE NOGALES TO HELP

LET'S USE NOGALES TO HELP
PROCESS.

PROCESS.
THE MILITARY BASES WHERE THE

THE MILITARY BASES WHERE THE
CHILDREN ARE BEING TRANSFERRED

CHILDREN ARE BEING TRANSFERRED
TO, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE

TO, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO LOCATE THE HEALTH AND

ABLE TO LOCATE THE HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES, THROUGH THE

HUMAN SERVICES, THROUGH THE
SERVICES, LOCATE A RELATIVE SO

SERVICES, LOCATE A RELATIVE SO
THEY CAN GO WITH THEM.

THEY CAN GO WITH THEM.
I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS OF THE

I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS OF THE
IMMIGRATION BUT I KNOW IT COULD

IMMIGRATION BUT I KNOW IT COULD
BE A PROCESS BETWEEN A YEAR AND

BE A PROCESS BETWEEN A YEAR AND
THREE YEARS WHILE THEY'RE

THREE YEARS WHILE THEY'RE
FINDING OUT EXACTLY WHAT NEAR

FINDING OUT EXACTLY WHAT NEAR
GOI--

GOI--
THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OUT, HOW

THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OUT, HOW
THEY'RE GOING TO TREAT THE

THEY'RE GOING TO TREAT THE
SITUATION CHILD BY CHILD.

SITUATION CHILD BY CHILD.
SO THIS IS A TASK NOT ONLY FOR

SO THIS IS A TASK NOT ONLY FOR
BORDER PATROL BUT FOR HOMELAND

BORDER PATROL BUT FOR HOMELAND
SECURITY.

SECURITY.
>> PERHAPS YOU'RE NOT CALLING IT

>> PERHAPS YOU'RE NOT CALLING IT
A CRISIS BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE

A CRISIS BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE
THERE IS A GOOD HOLD ON THE

THERE IS A GOOD HOLD ON THE
SITUATION CONSIDERING THE

SITUATION CONSIDERING THE
CIRCUMSTANCES.

CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> WELL, THE ONLY CRISIS I CAN

>> WELL, THE ONLY CRISIS I CAN
SAY CRISIS -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND

SAY CRISIS -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHY THE CHILDREN, AND JUST

WHY THE CHILDREN, AND JUST
CHILDREN, MIND YOU.

CHILDREN, MIND YOU.
THESE ARE UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN

THESE ARE UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN
FROM THE AGE OF FOUR TO 17.

FROM THE AGE OF FOUR TO 17.
I COULD NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW

I COULD NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW
A CHILD LIKE THAT COULD TRAVEL

A CHILD LIKE THAT COULD TRAVEL
OVER A THOUSAND MILES FROM THEIR

OVER A THOUSAND MILES FROM THEIR
HOME OF ORIGIN, THE COUNTRY OF

HOME OF ORIGIN, THE COUNTRY OF
ORIGIN TO THE BORDERS OF TEXAS.

ORIGIN TO THE BORDERS OF TEXAS.
THAT IS THE CRISIS.

THAT IS THE CRISIS.
>> THIS IS PART OF DOING

>> THIS IS PART OF DOING
BUSINESS IN A BORDER TOWN.

BUSINESS IN A BORDER TOWN.
>> YES, THIS IS -- I MEAN, WE

>> YES, THIS IS -- I MEAN, WE
HAVE NATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS, A

HAVE NATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS, A
SISTERHOOD AGREEMENT.

SISTERHOOD AGREEMENT.
THE LAST ECONOMIC FORUM WE HAD,

THE LAST ECONOMIC FORUM WE HAD,
I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT UP TO

I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT UP TO
SPEAK AND I TOLD EVERYBODY

SPEAK AND I TOLD EVERYBODY
THERE, ALL THE MAYORS FROM

THERE, ALL THE MAYORS FROM
SONORA AND ARIZONA THAT THEY

SONORA AND ARIZONA THAT THEY
REPRESENTED, I SAID YOU KNOW IN

REPRESENTED, I SAID YOU KNOW IN
NOGALES WE WANT TO REMOVE THE

NOGALES WE WANT TO REMOVE THE
WORDS "BORDER SECURITY" BECAUSE

WORDS "BORDER SECURITY" BECAUSE
THAT HAS CAUSED US A LOT OF

THAT HAS CAUSED US A LOT OF
PROBLEMS ECONOMICALLY.

PROBLEMS ECONOMICALLY.
AND I WANT TO TALK ECONOMIC

AND I WANT TO TALK ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.

DEVELOPMENT.
THESE CHILDREN DID NOT COME

THESE CHILDREN DID NOT COME
THROUGH OUR BORDERS IN ARIZONA,

THROUGH OUR BORDERS IN ARIZONA,
THEY CAME THROUGH TEXAS.

THEY CAME THROUGH TEXAS.
WE HAVE TO HELP TEXAS NOW.

WE HAVE TO HELP TEXAS NOW.
AND MY CASE, WE HAVE TO HELP

AND MY CASE, WE HAVE TO HELP
BORDER PATROL AND WE HAVE TO

BORDER PATROL AND WE HAVE TO
MAKE SURE IT IS ABOUT THE

MAKE SURE IT IS ABOUT THE
CHILDREN.

CHILDREN.
IT IS JUST VERY SENSITIVE,

IT IS JUST VERY SENSITIVE,
DELICATE.

DELICATE.
>> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING IN THE

>> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING IN THE
NEXT FOUR MONTHS?

NEXT FOUR MONTHS?
THESE CHILDREN ARE NOT JUST

THESE CHILDREN ARE NOT JUST
LEAVING TOMORROW.

LEAVING TOMORROW.
>> WELL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND

>> WELL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND
THIS PROCESSING CENTER COULD BE

THIS PROCESSING CENTER COULD BE
HERE ANYWHERE FROM THROUGHOUT

HERE ANYWHERE FROM THROUGHOUT
THE SUMMER OR MAYBE PAST

THE SUMMER OR MAYBE PAST
SEPTEMBER.

SEPTEMBER.
NOW, I HAVE HEARD NUMBERS OF 70

NOW, I HAVE HEARD NUMBERS OF 70
THOUSAND.

THOUSAND.
POSSIBLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

POSSIBLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, I DON'T

IF THAT IS THE CASE, I DON'T
KNOW, IT COULD BE LONGER.

KNOW, IT COULD BE LONGER.
BUT IT ALL DEPENDS IF THEY TURN

BUT IT ALL DEPENDS IF THEY TURN
OUT THEIR FACILITIES IN TEXAS OR

OUT THEIR FACILITIES IN TEXAS OR
THE MILITARY BASES AND TO THAT

THE MILITARY BASES AND TO THAT
PROCESSING CENTER.

PROCESSING CENTER.
BUT YOU KNOW, NOGALES IS THERE

BUT YOU KNOW, NOGALES IS THERE
AND I'M SURE OUR BORDER PATROL

AND I'M SURE OUR BORDER PATROL
STATION IS CAPABLE OF TAKING

STATION IS CAPABLE OF TAKING
THIS JOB UP.

THIS JOB UP.
>> NOGALES IS USED TO BEING IN

>> NOGALES IS USED TO BEING IN
THE NEWS FOR ISSUES RELATED TO

THE NEWS FOR ISSUES RELATED TO
THE BORDER.

THE BORDER.
THIS STORY, THOUGH, HAS

THIS STORY, THOUGH, HAS
CATAPULTED THIS TOWN INTO THE

CATAPULTED THIS TOWN INTO THE
SPOTLIGHT.

SPOTLIGHT.
HERE IS MY INTERVIEW WITH THE

HERE IS MY INTERVIEW WITH THE
REPORTER.

REPORTER.
>> Reporter: YOU HAVE BEEN

>> Reporter: YOU HAVE BEEN
COVERING THIS STORY FOR A COUPLE

COVERING THIS STORY FOR A COUPLE
OF WEEKS NOW AND THIS IS BIG

OF WEEKS NOW AND THIS IS BIG
NEWS IN A SMALL TOWN.

NEWS IN A SMALL TOWN.
>> YEAH, THIS TYPE OF THING KIND

>> YEAH, THIS TYPE OF THING KIND
OF HAPPENS EVERY COUPLE OF

OF HAPPENS EVERY COUPLE OF
MONTHS.

MONTHS.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD
CATHOLIC BISHOPS COME DOWN TO

CATHOLIC BISHOPS COME DOWN TO
THE FENCE A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

THE FENCE A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
YOU HAVE PROTESTS.

YOU HAVE PROTESTS.
AND YES, THE MEDIA COMES TO TOWN

AND YES, THE MEDIA COMES TO TOWN
AND WHEN IT MAKES BIG NEWS.

AND WHEN IT MAKES BIG NEWS.
THIS ONE IS MOST DEFINITELY --

THIS ONE IS MOST DEFINITELY --
THIS IS KIND OF BIGGER NEWS THAN

THIS IS KIND OF BIGGER NEWS THAN
THE OTHER ONES BECAUSE THIS

THE OTHER ONES BECAUSE THIS
SEEMS TO BE TOUCHING ON A LARGER

SEEMS TO BE TOUCHING ON A LARGER
ISSUE THAT IS UNFOLDING WITH

ISSUE THAT IS UNFOLDING WITH
CHILDREN FROM CENTRAL AMERICA

CHILDREN FROM CENTRAL AMERICA
WANTING TO COME UP TO THE UNITED

WANTING TO COME UP TO THE UNITED
STATES.

STATES.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE OUR

AND IT LOOKS LIKE OUR
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS NOT QUITE

IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS NOT QUITE
BUILT TO HANDLE THIS PROBLEM.

BUILT TO HANDLE THIS PROBLEM.
AND SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEING --

AND SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEING --
WE'RE KIND OF SEEING WHAT THE

WE'RE KIND OF SEEING WHAT THE
FEDERAL AGENCY IS GOING TO DO

FEDERAL AGENCY IS GOING TO DO
WITH REGARD TO A SITUATION

WITH REGARD TO A SITUATION
THEY'RE NOT REALLY PREPARED FOR.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY PREPARED FOR.
>> Reporter: AS A JOURNALIST,

>> Reporter: AS A JOURNALIST,
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS YOUR

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS YOUR
GREATEST CHALLENGE COVERING A

GREATEST CHALLENGE COVERING A
STORY LIKE THIS, WHERE IT IS

STORY LIKE THIS, WHERE IT IS
IMMIGRATION, AND HUMANITARIAN,

IMMIGRATION, AND HUMANITARIAN,
AND CHILDREN.

AND CHILDREN.
>> THE CHILDREN THING IS A BIG

>> THE CHILDREN THING IS A BIG
ISSUE, RIGHT?

ISSUE, RIGHT?
BECAUSE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS

BECAUSE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS
GOING TO BE LACK OF ACCESS, THEY

GOING TO BE LACK OF ACCESS, THEY
JUST LED US IN, SHOWED US

JUST LED US IN, SHOWED US
AROUND.

AROUND.
BUT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED ACCESS

BUT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED ACCESS
TO THE CHILDREN.

TO THE CHILDREN.
I KIND OF GET THAT.

I KIND OF GET THAT.
WITH MINORS IT IS ALWAYS A

WITH MINORS IT IS ALWAYS A
TOUCHY SITUATION.

TOUCHY SITUATION.
IN THE END THE BIG PROBLEM WILL

IN THE END THE BIG PROBLEM WILL
BE HOW DO WE GET ACCESS TO THE

BE HOW DO WE GET ACCESS TO THE
INFORMATION?

INFORMATION?
AND FOR US THE REAL STORIES ARE

AND FOR US THE REAL STORIES ARE
GOING TO BE THE CHILDREN'S

GOING TO BE THE CHILDREN'S
STORIES.

STORIES.
SO HOW DO WE GET IN TOUCH WITH

SO HOW DO WE GET IN TOUCH WITH
THE CHILDREN AND HAVE THEM TELL

THE CHILDREN AND HAVE THEM TELL
A STORY THAT IS ETHICALLY

A STORY THAT IS ETHICALLY
RESPONSIBLE.

RESPONSIBLE.
>> YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS

>> YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS
STORY FOR YEARS NOW, WHAT DO YOU

STORY FOR YEARS NOW, WHAT DO YOU
SEE THAT IS DIFFERENT NOW WITH

SEE THAT IS DIFFERENT NOW WITH
THIS STORY?

THIS STORY?
>> WELL, THIS STORY, IT IS JUST

>> WELL, THIS STORY, IT IS JUST
LOCALIZED BORDER PATROL STATION.

LOCALIZED BORDER PATROL STATION.
THERE IS BASICALLY NO IMPACT IN

THERE IS BASICALLY NO IMPACT IN
THE CITY LIKE NOGALES.

THE CITY LIKE NOGALES.
THE ONLY THING I'M SEEING IS THE

THE ONLY THING I'M SEEING IS THE
COMMUNITY IS KIND OF RALLYING TO

COMMUNITY IS KIND OF RALLYING TO
SUPPORT THE CHILDREN.

SUPPORT THE CHILDREN.
SO OUR MAYOR AND CHURCHES AND

SO OUR MAYOR AND CHURCHES AND
OTHERS ARE GATHERING TOYS AND

OTHERS ARE GATHERING TOYS AND
FOOD AND CLOTHES TO HELP OUT THE

FOOD AND CLOTHES TO HELP OUT THE
CHILDREN.

CHILDREN.
BUT THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY

BUT THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY
IMPACT I'M SEEING ON THE CITY OF

IMPACT I'M SEEING ON THE CITY OF
NOGALES.

NOGALES.
TO THE PEOPLE.

TO THE PEOPLE.
>> TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT IN

>> TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT IN
A STORY LIKE THIS ONE.

A STORY LIKE THIS ONE.
>> IT ALWAYS IS, AND WITH BORDER

>> IT ALWAYS IS, AND WITH BORDER
PATROL IT IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE,

PATROL IT IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE,
THE GREAT THING ABOUT TODAY WE

THE GREAT THING ABOUT TODAY WE
GOT TO GO IN FOR THE FIRST TIME

GOT TO GO IN FOR THE FIRST TIME
AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE PLAYING

AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE PLAYING
OUT INSIDE.

OUT INSIDE.
HOW THEY'RE BEING TREATED.

HOW THEY'RE BEING TREATED.
SO NOW AS WE ALL GO ABOUT OUR

SO NOW AS WE ALL GO ABOUT OUR
REPORTING WE CAN HAVE THAT

REPORTING WE CAN HAVE THAT
PERSPECTIVE ON IT.

PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
ALWAYS WITH THAT BIG GRAIN OF

ALWAYS WITH THAT BIG GRAIN OF
SALT, WE DIDN'T GET TO HAVE FULL

SALT, WE DIDN'T GET TO HAVE FULL
ACCESS AND SPEAK TO THE CHILDREN

ACCESS AND SPEAK TO THE CHILDREN
AND JUST SAY, WHAT IS YOUR

AND JUST SAY, WHAT IS YOUR
STORY, HOW ARE YOU DOING?

STORY, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
>> THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND

>> THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY HAS GUARDED THE PRIVACY

SECURITY HAS GUARDED THE PRIVACY
OF THE CHILDREN RATHER CLOSELY.

OF THE CHILDREN RATHER CLOSELY.
IT IS UNCLEAR HOW MANY HUNDREDS

IT IS UNCLEAR HOW MANY HUNDREDS
OF CHILDREN HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN

OF CHILDREN HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN
PROCESSED THROUGH NOGALES.

PROCESSED THROUGH NOGALES.
ART DELGUETO IS PRESIDENT OF THE

ART DELGUETO IS PRESIDENT OF THE
LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE BORDER

LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE BORDER
PATROL UNION AND HAS BEEN ABLE

PATROL UNION AND HAS BEEN ABLE
TO TALK WITH THE CHILDREN AND

TO TALK WITH THE CHILDREN AND
THEN TELL US WHAT HE IS LEARNING

THEN TELL US WHAT HE IS LEARNING
ABOUT THEIR JOURNEY.

ABOUT THEIR JOURNEY.
>> Reporter: THE MEDIA WAS

>> Reporter: THE MEDIA WAS
ALLOWED ACCESS INTO THE FACILITY

ALLOWED ACCESS INTO THE FACILITY
TODAY BUT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO

TODAY BUT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO
TALK WITH THE CHILDREN.

TALK WITH THE CHILDREN.
YOU OF COURSE HAD SOME

YOU OF COURSE HAD SOME
CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS THEIR

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS THEIR
DEMEANOR?

DEMEANOR?
THESE KIDS, WHAT ARE THEY

THESE KIDS, WHAT ARE THEY
SAYING?

SAYING?
>> WELL'S IT DEPENDS.

>> WELL'S IT DEPENDS.
YOU WILL HAVE KIDS, CRYING, SOME

YOU WILL HAVE KIDS, CRYING, SOME
UPSET, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM

UPSET, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM
THEY'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME.

THEY'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME.
THEY REALIZE IT IS A PROCESS.

THEY REALIZE IT IS A PROCESS.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET BORED.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET BORED.
YOU TAKE KIDS TO THE GROCERY

YOU TAKE KIDS TO THE GROCERY
STORE AND THEY GET BORED.

STORE AND THEY GET BORED.
THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE

THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE
OF DAYS.

OF DAYS.
THEY GET FED SIX TIMES A DAY.

THEY GET FED SIX TIMES A DAY.
THEY HAVE REC TIME, THE AGENTS

THEY HAVE REC TIME, THE AGENTS
ARE PLAYING WITH THEM.

ARE PLAYING WITH THEM.
THEY'RE BEING PROPERLY TAKEN

THEY'RE BEING PROPERLY TAKEN
CARE OF BEYOND I THINK WHAT

CARE OF BEYOND I THINK WHAT
COULD BE DONE.

COULD BE DONE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD AN

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD AN
ISSUE WITH THE BARBED WIRE

ISSUE WITH THE BARBED WIRE
FENCING ON TOP.

FENCING ON TOP.
THIS FENCING WAS NOT BUILT FOR

THIS FENCING WAS NOT BUILT FOR
THIS.

THIS.
IT WAS BUILT FOR THE ADULTS.

IT WAS BUILT FOR THE ADULTS.
IT WAS ALREADY SET UP.

IT WAS ALREADY SET UP.
WE USED IT PREVIOUSLY.

WE USED IT PREVIOUSLY.
THE BARBED WIRE WAS ALREADY

THE BARBED WIRE WAS ALREADY
THERE.

THERE.
WHAT THE BORDER PATROL DID WAS

WHAT THE BORDER PATROL DID WAS
BRING IN MORE THINGS TO ADAPT IT

BRING IN MORE THINGS TO ADAPT IT
MORE FOR THE KIDS.

MORE FOR THE KIDS.
>> Reporter: THE AGENCY NOT

>> Reporter: THE AGENCY NOT
ANSWERING ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS.

ANSWERING ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS.
I SHOULDN'T SAY -- THEY ANSWERED

I SHOULDN'T SAY -- THEY ANSWERED
A FEW.

A FEW.
BUT A LOT OF IT WAS SENT IN

BUT A LOT OF IT WAS SENT IN
E-MAILS, GO THROUGH D.C., THAT

E-MAILS, GO THROUGH D.C., THAT
IS A LITTLE CONCERNING FOR US

IS A LITTLE CONCERNING FOR US
WHEN WE JUST WANT ANSWERS AND

WHEN WE JUST WANT ANSWERS AND
WANT THE STORY.

WANT THE STORY.
>> I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE, IT

>> I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE, IT
REALLY UPSETS ME, THE INTERVIEWS

REALLY UPSETS ME, THE INTERVIEWS
I'M GIVING, THAT WOULD BE EASY

I'M GIVING, THAT WOULD BE EASY
FOR THEM TO GIVE.

FOR THEM TO GIVE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU DEAL

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU DEAL
WITH DIFFERENT BUREAUCRATS AND

WITH DIFFERENT BUREAUCRATS AND
POLITICIANS THEY HAVE TO GO --

POLITICIANS THEY HAVE TO GO --
EVERYTHING IS THROUGH

EVERYTHING IS THROUGH
WASHINGTON, THEY HAVE TO CLEAR

WASHINGTON, THEY HAVE TO CLEAR
IT.

IT.
I DON'T THINK IT IS ON BORDER

I DON'T THINK IT IS ON BORDER
PATROL.

PATROL.
BUT IT IS DEFINITELY ON DHS.

BUT IT IS DEFINITELY ON DHS.
>> JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU ARE NOT

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU ARE NOT
REPRESENTING THE UNION, YOU

REPRESENTING THE UNION, YOU
REPRESENT THE AGENTS?

REPRESENT THE AGENTS?
>> CORRECT, I REPRESENT THE

>> CORRECT, I REPRESENT THE
AGENTS WHO REPRESENT THE BORDER

AGENTS WHO REPRESENT THE BORDER
PATROL.

PATROL.
>> AS AN AGENT YOU ARE USED TO

>> AS AN AGENT YOU ARE USED TO
WALKING IN AND SEEING ADULTS.

WALKING IN AND SEEING ADULTS.
BUT WITH KIDS IT IS A MUCH

BUT WITH KIDS IT IS A MUCH
DIFFERENT LEVEL.

DIFFERENT LEVEL.
IT TUGS AT THE HEART STRINGS.

IT TUGS AT THE HEART STRINGS.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT?

>> YOU KNOW WHAT?
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY
TIMES.

TIMES.
I'VE SEEN MILLIONS OF KIDS.

I'VE SEEN MILLIONS OF KIDS.
IT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE

IT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE
THEM ALL IN ONE AREA.

THEM ALL IN ONE AREA.
BUT I HAVE WALKED IN THERE AND

BUT I HAVE WALKED IN THERE AND
JOKE AROUND WITH THEM AND PLAY

JOKE AROUND WITH THEM AND PLAY
WITH THEM.

WITH THEM.
THEY'RE WILLING TO JOKE AROUND,

THEY'RE WILLING TO JOKE AROUND,
AND TALK TO YOU.

AND TALK TO YOU.
IN THE END THEY'RE JUST KIDS.

IN THE END THEY'RE JUST KIDS.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY COME TO

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY COME TO
AMERICA WITH THEIR PARENTS THEY

AMERICA WITH THEIR PARENTS THEY
DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE COMING

DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE COMING
ILLEGALLY.

ILLEGALLY.
THE DIFFERENCE IS WE HAVE 16 AND

THE DIFFERENCE IS WE HAVE 16 AND
17-YEAR-OLD KIDS.

17-YEAR-OLD KIDS.
I THINK A LOT OF THIS WAS

I THINK A LOT OF THIS WAS
PLANNED.

PLANNED.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY

BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY
KIDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY TURNING

KIDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY TURNING
THEMSELVES OVER TO BORDER PATROL

THEMSELVES OVER TO BORDER PATROL
AND IN ADDITION, WHEN THEY'RE

AND IN ADDITION, WHEN THEY'RE
DOING ARRESTED THEY ALREADY HAVE

DOING ARRESTED THEY ALREADY HAVE
PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY

PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES.

MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES.
THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT IS

THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT IS
HAPPENING.

HAPPENING.
THEY KNOW THE PROCESS AND THAT

THEY KNOW THE PROCESS AND THAT
IS CONCERNING AS AN AGENT AND AS

IS CONCERNING AS AN AGENT AND AS
A CITIZEN.

A CITIZEN.
>> A LOT OF THESE KIDS ARE NOT

>> A LOT OF THESE KIDS ARE NOT
BEING BROUGHT OVER HERE BECAUSE

BEING BROUGHT OVER HERE BECAUSE
THEY'RE FLEEING SOMETHING

THEY'RE FLEEING SOMETHING
TERRIBLE IN THEIR COUNTRY.

TERRIBLE IN THEIR COUNTRY.
THEY'RE BEING TOLD TO COME

THEY'RE BEING TOLD TO COME
BECAUSE NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO

BECAUSE NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO
COME AND STAY.

COME AND STAY.
>> CORRECT, I'VE SAID IT MANY

>> CORRECT, I'VE SAID IT MANY
TIMES.

TIMES.
BY ATTATALKING TO THE INDIVIDUA

BY ATTATALKING TO THE INDIVIDUA
THEY THEMSELVES TOLD US HOW THEY

THEY THEMSELVES TOLD US HOW THEY
MAKE IT.

MAKE IT.
THEY SAY THE MEDIA, DOWN IN

THEY SAY THE MEDIA, DOWN IN
THEIR COUNTRY AND RELIGIOUS

THEIR COUNTRY AND RELIGIOUS
GROUPS TOLD THEM IN ADDITION TO

GROUPS TOLD THEM IN ADDITION TO
FAMILY MEMBERS AND PARENTS AND

FAMILY MEMBERS AND PARENTS AND
COUSINS AND BROTHERS AND

COUSINS AND BROTHERS AND
EVERYBODY ELSE ALREADY LIVING IN

EVERYBODY ELSE ALREADY LIVING IN
THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY.

THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY.
WE'RE APPREHENDING THEM AND

WE'RE APPREHENDING THEM AND
TURNING THEM OVER TO ICE, AND

TURNING THEM OVER TO ICE, AND
ICE FINDS THEM AND TURNS THEM TO

ICE FINDS THEM AND TURNS THEM TO
DIFFERENT AREAS, BY THAT, FAMILY

DIFFERENT AREAS, BY THAT, FAMILY
MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES.

MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES.
BUT THEIR STATUS IN THE COUNTRY

BUT THEIR STATUS IN THE COUNTRY
THAT IS VERY CONCERNING.

THAT IS VERY CONCERNING.
>> I HEARD YOU ASKING THE BOYS

>> I HEARD YOU ASKING THE BOYS
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY

QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY
YOU HAVE BEEN PAID?

YOU HAVE BEEN PAID?
IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE AND

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE AND
WHO YOU TALK TO.

WHO YOU TALK TO.
>> CORRECT, ONE SAID 4,000,

>> CORRECT, ONE SAID 4,000,
ANOTHER KID SAID $5,000, I SAID

ANOTHER KID SAID $5,000, I SAID
DID YOU PAY DIFFERENT MEXICAN

DID YOU PAY DIFFERENT MEXICAN
AUTHORITIES CROSSING THE

AUTHORITIES CROSSING THE
COUNTRY?

COUNTRY?
THEY SAID YEAH, ALONG THE WAY WE

THEY SAID YEAH, ALONG THE WAY WE
RAN INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT

RAN INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT
MEXICAN COPS AND AUTHORITIES.

MEXICAN COPS AND AUTHORITIES.
AND WE HAD TO PAY EACH ONE OF

AND WE HAD TO PAY EACH ONE OF
THEM A SEPARATE BRIBE IN ORDER

THEM A SEPARATE BRIBE IN ORDER
TO LET US IN THE COUNTRY.

TO LET US IN THE COUNTRY.
THAT IS VERY CONCERNING.

THAT IS VERY CONCERNING.
>> 800 TO A THOUSAND KIDS WE SAW

>> 800 TO A THOUSAND KIDS WE SAW
TODAY.

TODAY.
THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY.

THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY.
>> IT IS NOT GOING AWAY.

>> IT IS NOT GOING AWAY.
TEXAS IS STILL GETTING HIT

TEXAS IS STILL GETTING HIT
PRETTY HARD.

PRETTY HARD.
LET'S NOT FORGET, ARIZONA, 60%

LET'S NOT FORGET, ARIZONA, 60%
OF THE DRUGS TAKEN IN OUR

OF THE DRUGS TAKEN IN OUR
COUNTRY IS IN OUR TUCSON SECTOR.

COUNTRY IS IN OUR TUCSON SECTOR.
YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOME

YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOME
REPERCUSSION.

REPERCUSSION.
YOU NEED TO SEND THE KIDS BACK

YOU NEED TO SEND THE KIDS BACK
AND QUESTION THEIR CONSULATE.

AND QUESTION THEIR CONSULATE.
THEIR CONSULATE HAS TO ASSUME

THEIR CONSULATE HAS TO ASSUME
RESPONSIBILITIES.

RESPONSIBILITIES.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GIVING

I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GIVING
INTERVIEWS.

INTERVIEWS.
WELL, THAT IS NOT HELPING

WELL, THAT IS NOT HELPING
ANYTHING.

ANYTHING.
YOU NEED TO ASSUME

YOU NEED TO ASSUME
RESPONSIBILITY.

RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY'RE YOU'RE COUNTRYMEN.

THEY'RE YOU'RE COUNTRYMEN.
YOU NEED TO ASSUME THAT

YOU NEED TO ASSUME THAT
RESPONSIBILITY THERE.

RESPONSIBILITY THERE.
>>> THE BUZZ NOW WITH MY

>>> THE BUZZ NOW WITH MY
COLLEAGUE, FERNANDO, THIS IS

COLLEAGUE, FERNANDO, THIS IS
REALLY BECOMING INTERNATIONAL

REALLY BECOMING INTERNATIONAL
NEWS, WHAT IS THE LATEST.

NEWS, WHAT IS THE LATEST.
>> WELL, SINCE WE LEFT ON

>> WELL, SINCE WE LEFT ON
WEDNESDAY WE HAVEN'T REALLY

WEDNESDAY WE HAVEN'T REALLY
HEARD MUCH FROM THE POLITICAL

HEARD MUCH FROM THE POLITICAL
WORLD.

WORLD.
WHEN THE KIDS FIRST ARRIVED IN

WHEN THE KIDS FIRST ARRIVED IN
ARIZONA THERE WAS A LOT MORE

ARIZONA THERE WAS A LOT MORE
TALK GOING ON WITH THE ELECTED

TALK GOING ON WITH THE ELECTED
OFFICIALS.

OFFICIALS.
WHETHER IT WAS SECURE THE BORDER

WHETHER IT WAS SECURE THE BORDER
OR PASS IMMIGRATION REFORM.

OR PASS IMMIGRATION REFORM.
I ACTUALLY EXPECTED MORE

I ACTUALLY EXPECTED MORE
REACTION FROM THE POLITICAL

REACTION FROM THE POLITICAL
WORLD AFTER HAVING SEEN VIDEO

WORLD AFTER HAVING SEEN VIDEO
FOOTAGE OF WHAT IT LOOKS INSIDE

FOOTAGE OF WHAT IT LOOKS INSIDE
THE FACILITY.

THE FACILITY.
THE TALK HAS NOW SHIFTED TO

THE TALK HAS NOW SHIFTED TO
SOCIAL MEDIA.

SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THE QUOTE

WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THE QUOTE
UNQUOTE NORMAL PEOPLE.

UNQUOTE NORMAL PEOPLE.
REACTING TO WHAT THEY SAW, WHAT

REACTING TO WHAT THEY SAW, WHAT
WE'VE REPORTED ON, WHAT WE SAW

WE'VE REPORTED ON, WHAT WE SAW
INSIDE THE SHELTER.

INSIDE THE SHELTER.
THE CONDITIONS OF THE KIDS.

THE CONDITIONS OF THE KIDS.
SO THE CONVERSATION IS

SO THE CONVERSATION IS
DEFINITELY SHIFTING TO REGULAR

DEFINITELY SHIFTING TO REGULAR
PEOPLE.

PEOPLE.
>> AVERAGE PEOPLE WANTING TO

>> AVERAGE PEOPLE WANTING TO
KNOW HOW THEY CAN HELP.

KNOW HOW THEY CAN HELP.
THEY'RE OUTRAGED TO BE QUITE

THEY'RE OUTRAGED TO BE QUITE
FRANK.

FRANK.
SEEING THE PHOTOS AS WE CONTINUE

SEEING THE PHOTOS AS WE CONTINUE
TO SEE ON THIS PROGRAM.

TO SEE ON THIS PROGRAM.
LITTLE KIDS BEHIND CAGES.

LITTLE KIDS BEHIND CAGES.
NOT IDENTIFYING THEIR FACES.

NOT IDENTIFYING THEIR FACES.
A LOT OF KIDS ARE SLEEPING.

A LOT OF KIDS ARE SLEEPING.
THEY LOOK A LITTLE UPSET.

THEY LOOK A LITTLE UPSET.
SO A LITTLE SURPRISING THAT

SO A LITTLE SURPRISING THAT
WE'RE NOT HEARING ANYTHING FROM

WE'RE NOT HEARING ANYTHING FROM
THE POLITICAL SIDE OF THINGS.

THE POLITICAL SIDE OF THINGS.
BUT WE ARE HEARING THINGS.

BUT WE ARE HEARING THINGS.
YOU ARE IN ON THE WHITE HOUSE

YOU ARE IN ON THE WHITE HOUSE
BRIEFING REGARDING WHAT IS NEXT,

BRIEFING REGARDING WHAT IS NEXT,
HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM

HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM
HERE?

HERE?
>> WE HEARD FROM SENIOR WHITE

>> WE HEARD FROM SENIOR WHITE
HOUSE OFFICIALS ABOUT THEY

HOUSE OFFICIALS ABOUT THEY
ANNOUNCED A FEW NEW PLANS.

ANNOUNCED A FEW NEW PLANS.
THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED

THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED
IN THESE PLANS.

IN THESE PLANS.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING
TO SPEND ALMOST $10 MILLION TO

TO SPEND ALMOST $10 MILLION TO
SUPPORT CENTRAL AMERICAN

SUPPORT CENTRAL AMERICAN
GOVERNMENTS IN EL SALVADOR.

GOVERNMENTS IN EL SALVADOR.
SOME OF THE COUNTRIES THEY'RE

SOME OF THE COUNTRIES THEY'RE
COMING FROM.

COMING FROM.
AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS

AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
GOING TO GIVE MILLIONS TO WORK

GOING TO GIVE MILLIONS TO WORK
WITH LESSENING THE EFFECT OF

WITH LESSENING THE EFFECT OF
GANGS AND THE PUSH THAT THEY'RE

GANGS AND THE PUSH THAT THEY'RE
HAVING ON SOME OF THIS YOUTH.

HAVING ON SOME OF THIS YOUTH.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS
WHY THE KIDS ARE COMING HERE TO

WHY THE KIDS ARE COMING HERE TO
AVOID THAT KIND OF VIOLENCE.

AVOID THAT KIND OF VIOLENCE.
THE WHITE HOUSE ALSO ANNOUNCED

THE WHITE HOUSE ALSO ANNOUNCED
THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON

THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON
-- THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY

-- THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY
TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE MORE KIDS,

TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE MORE KIDS,
TO BE ABLE TO DETAIN MORE KIDS

TO BE ABLE TO DETAIN MORE KIDS
TO GO THROUGH THE DETENTION AND

TO GO THROUGH THE DETENTION AND
THE PROCESSING PART A LITTLE BIT

THE PROCESSING PART A LITTLE BIT
QUICKER.

QUICKER.
THEY'RE ALSO ADDING MONEY FOR

THEY'RE ALSO ADDING MONEY FOR
IMMIGRATION COURTS SO THE

IMMIGRATION COURTS SO THE
HEARINGS CAN BE HEARD SOONER.

HEARINGS CAN BE HEARD SOONER.
SO THEY CAN START TO DEPORT SOME

SO THEY CAN START TO DEPORT SOME
OF THE KIDS SOONER.

OF THE KIDS SOONER.
>> SO PEOPLE MAY BE WATCHING

>> SO PEOPLE MAY BE WATCHING
THIS AND WONDER WHY ARE WE NOT

THIS AND WONDER WHY ARE WE NOT
AS THE UNITED STATES JUST

AS THE UNITED STATES JUST
SENDING THE CHILDREN BACK?

SENDING THE CHILDREN BACK?
INSTEAD WE'RE LITERALLY WRITING

INSTEAD WE'RE LITERALLY WRITING
THE CHECK TO THEIR GOVERNMENTS

THE CHECK TO THEIR GOVERNMENTS
AND SAYING HERE IS TO MAYBE HELP

AND SAYING HERE IS TO MAYBE HELP
TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION DOWN

TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION DOWN
THERE.

THERE.
>> THE ISSUE WITH THE CENTRAL

>> THE ISSUE WITH THE CENTRAL
AMERICAN CHILDREN IS TREATED

AMERICAN CHILDREN IS TREATED
DIFFERENTLY THAN MEXICAN

DIFFERENTLY THAN MEXICAN
CHILDREN.

CHILDREN.
AND BY LAW THE U.S. CAN, SORT OF

AND BY LAW THE U.S. CAN, SORT OF
IF YOU AND I WERE COMING

IF YOU AND I WERE COMING
TOGETHER AND CROSSING THE BORDER

TOGETHER AND CROSSING THE BORDER
ILLEGALLY, YOU'RE FROM CENTRAL

ILLEGALLY, YOU'RE FROM CENTRAL
AMERICA, I'M FROM MEXICO, YOU

AMERICA, I'M FROM MEXICO, YOU
GET SENT AROUND AND SENT BACK

GET SENT AROUND AND SENT BACK
QUICKER THERE.

QUICKER THERE.
WITH CENTRAL AMERICAN KIDS THEY

WITH CENTRAL AMERICAN KIDS THEY
ARE TREATED COMPLETELY

ARE TREATED COMPLETELY
DIFFERENTLY.

DIFFERENTLY.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A

THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A
DIFFERENT PROCESS, THEY'RE PUT

DIFFERENT PROCESS, THEY'RE PUT
IN DETENTION CENTERS AND THE

IN DETENTION CENTERS AND THE
PROCESS IS MUCH LONGER.

PROCESS IS MUCH LONGER.
>> HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE WE

>> HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE WE
TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT?

TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT?
>> I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBERS WE

>> I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBERS WE
GOT AT THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS

GOT AT THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS
CALL.

CALL.
15,000 AT LEAST UNACCOMPANIED

15,000 AT LEAST UNACCOMPANIED
CHILDREN HAVE BEEN CROSSING THE

CHILDREN HAVE BEEN CROSSING THE
BORDER SINCE JUNE.

BORDER SINCE JUNE.
THAT NUMBER HAS SKYROCKETED

THAT NUMBER HAS SKYROCKETED
SINCE PREVIOUS YEARS.

SINCE PREVIOUS YEARS.
WE KNOW THAT ABOUT 2,000 KIDS

WE KNOW THAT ABOUT 2,000 KIDS
HAVE GONE IN AND OUT.

HAVE GONE IN AND OUT.
ABOUT A THOUSAND AT EACH TIME.

ABOUT A THOUSAND AT EACH TIME.
>> OKAY, AND WHAT IS NEXT FOR

>> OKAY, AND WHAT IS NEXT FOR
THEM IS SOME OF THEM MAY BE

THEM IS SOME OF THEM MAY BE
TRANSFERRED TO SOME MILITARY

TRANSFERRED TO SOME MILITARY
FACILITIES AS ANOTHER TEMPORARY

FACILITIES AS ANOTHER TEMPORARY
HOME, IF YOU WILL.

HOME, IF YOU WILL.
AND THERE MAY BE SOME CONNECTION

AND THERE MAY BE SOME CONNECTION
WITH THEIR FAMILIES AT THAT

WITH THEIR FAMILIES AT THAT
POINT?

POINT?
>> YEAH, SO THESE KIDS, A LOT OF

>> YEAH, SO THESE KIDS, A LOT OF
THEM DON'T WANT TO END UP IN

THEM DON'T WANT TO END UP IN
TEXAS OR ARIZONA.

TEXAS OR ARIZONA.
THEY HAVE FAMILIES THEY WANTED

THEY HAVE FAMILIES THEY WANTED
TO MEET IN OTHER STATES.

TO MEET IN OTHER STATES.
THEY WANT TO BE SENT TO HEALTH

THEY WANT TO BE SENT TO HEALTH
AND HUMAN SERVICES SO THE OFFICE

AND HUMAN SERVICES SO THE OFFICE
OF THE CONSULATE CAN MEET FOR

OF THE CONSULATE CAN MEET FOR
THE REUNIFICATION PROCESS.

THE REUNIFICATION PROCESS.
THE TUCSON CITY COUNCIL HAS

THE TUCSON CITY COUNCIL HAS
GIVEN AN MAJOR PERMIT, FOR

GIVEN AN MAJOR PERMIT, FOR
SOUTHWEST KEY, TO OPEN A

SOUTHWEST KEY, TO OPEN A
PROCESSING CENTER.

PROCESSING CENTER.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF JOBS

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF JOBS
POSTED, 100 AND SOMETHING JOBS

POSTED, 100 AND SOMETHING JOBS
FOR YOUTH CARE WORKERS, COOKS,

FOR YOUTH CARE WORKERS, COOKS,
NURSES.

NURSES.
WE'RE GOING TO START TO SEE SOME

WE'RE GOING TO START TO SEE SOME
KIDS COME TO TUCSON, THEY COULD

KIDS COME TO TUCSON, THEY COULD
BE COMING FROM THE NOGALES

BE COMING FROM THE NOGALES
WAREHOUSE OR OTHER PARTS OF THE

WAREHOUSE OR OTHER PARTS OF THE
COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.
>> IS THERE ANYONE FEARING GOING

>> IS THERE ANYONE FEARING GOING
TO PICK UP THEIR CHILD AND

TO PICK UP THEIR CHILD AND
FACING A SORT OF REPERCUSSION,

FACING A SORT OF REPERCUSSION,
BEING LABELLED AS POSSIBLY

BEING LABELLED AS POSSIBLY
IMMIGRANTS AND POSSIBLY FACING

IMMIGRANTS AND POSSIBLY FACING
ARREST?

ARREST?
>> FROM WHAT WE'RE TOLD FROM THE

>> FROM WHAT WE'RE TOLD FROM THE
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE

HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE
OFFICES, THE KIDS ARE TAKEN FROM

OFFICES, THE KIDS ARE TAKEN FROM
IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS TO

IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS TO
HUMANITARIAN WORKERS WITH THE

HUMANITARIAN WORKERS WITH THE
OFFICE OF REFUGEES.

OFFICE OF REFUGEES.
SO WE'RE TOLD THAT THE PARENTS,

SO WE'RE TOLD THAT THE PARENTS,
THE IMMIGRATION STATUS IS NOT

THE IMMIGRATION STATUS IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS

SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS
INQUIRING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO

INQUIRING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO
HANDLING THE CHILDREN.

HANDLING THE CHILDREN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
ANALYSIS.

ANALYSIS.
THAT IS OUR PROGRAM.

THAT IS OUR PROGRAM.
ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA WILL

ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA WILL
CONTINUE TO COVER THE

CONTINUE TO COVER THE
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM TAKING PLACE

IMMIGRATION SYSTEM TAKING PLACE
IN NOGALES.

IN NOGALES.
AND BE SURE TO VISIT US, AS WE

AND BE SURE TO VISIT US, AS WE
VISIT THE AREA ONE YEAR AFTER

VISIT THE AREA ONE YEAR AFTER
THE DEVASTATING WILDFIRE.

THE DEVASTATING WILDFIRE.
FOR ALL OF