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the state education in southern Arizona

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a conversation calling for change is a 
crisis

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we are an absolute crisis for not just 
education before our economy

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for the success of our community propose 
cuts to higher education

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what it could mean for struggling 
students any

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increase in2ition it just it would be 
hard hit

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to stay to stay in school this

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is airs on a week

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hello and thanks for joining us will get 
to those proposed budget cuts in just a

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moment

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but first a time to talk about what many 
describe is an education crisis

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here's a medic you sick from the United 
Way of Tucson

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in southern Arizona

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so man if you would tell us a little bit 
about the collective impact process

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which

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is a big title but how would you 
describe it to people who are at home

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watching this and wondering

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was just me absolutely it's really about 
bringing together

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multiple sectors ever community just saw 
a really complex

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complicated social issue and so for what 
we're up to now is using the collective

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impact model to improve educational 
outcomes for children

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and not just that one grade level but 
really looking at the whole spectrum

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from a child that time a child is born 
all the way until they are ready to

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ensure their career

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if you would describe what is the issue 
with education in this particular

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community

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I mean that this thing there isn't just 
one issue it's really complicated

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and first and foremost we can separate 
the effects of poverty from

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educational outcomes for children and 
let's face it our community is a low

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income community and with that come a 
lot of issues around

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family stressors a high percentage of 
children in the foster care system

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kids just not having the resources they 
need to come to school

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healthy well dressed and ready to learn

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and so when we look at improving 
educational outcomes

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surely there will be things that will 
wanna start doing during the school day

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most if it is making sure that kids have 
the supports they need

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outside of the classroom oftentimes

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skeptics will look at this model and say 
it's another media

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it's another discussion people coming in 
from around the country

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to analyze what's wrong in this 
community so how do you encourage people

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to understand it this is a step

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a baby step albeit but a step in the 
right direction absolutely

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and frankly than the stairs at

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I hear them I there's been a lot of 
efforts in our community

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a have meetings and then the follow-up 
just hasn't been there

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I'm I say to them that's no reason to 
give up

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what else are we can detail and when I 
look at this model and I see it working

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in other communities

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I know that we can do it here and why I 
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going to be successful as we've re: got

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the right leadership in place

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who supporting it and Lillian to sustain 
it and take action immediately following

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this

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this big meaning that we're having we 
have a roadmap basically

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how to organize ourselves based on 
what's worked in other communities

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and really it isn't about having 
outsiders

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come in and tell us what we're doing 
wrong and that were awful and all those

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things

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it's quite the opposite we have a lot of 
amazing programs

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here we have some really amazing schools 
we need to do is start

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being able to articulate are those thing 
so amazing

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where those small pocket some success 
happening look at it

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open it up figure out how do we scale 
that up make sure

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every kid has access to all those 
supports that make them successful

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it sounds like there's a lot at stake 
here if they're really passionate about

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being part of that

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solution really care about education

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there's one thing all have to do. and 
thats remove blame from the conversation

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for too long our community

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and in fact the nation has blamed

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the k12 system for its failures

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or we blame parents for not being

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at as participatory in their child's 
success and we blame

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we point are fingers at everybody else 
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if things are going to change the 
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be accountable for all its children not 
just one sector of the community

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this is about the juvenile court system 
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the public health system with the foster 
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with K-twelve with early childhood 
educators with higher

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add with philanthropists with the 
faith-based community

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all of us taking away blame

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and also not ever having to take credit

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for I'm you know an individual agencies 
efforts while they may be great

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when we focus so solely on the credit 
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apart

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other solution and scaling up to work 
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lehman also remove credit to a certain 
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I think we'll get a lot farther in the 
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like to attend the community interactive 
next week log on to our website

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easy p.m. dot org for more information 
moving on now to the governor's proposal

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to cut state funding to higher education

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an estimated seventy five million 
dollars from

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arizona's three universities the Arizona 
border regions met this week in Tucson

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here's vice chair J Hiler

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five million is only the governor's 
proposal there's an entire legislative

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budget process that has time for that 
number could move in either direction

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and so a there's a long way to go here 
this is a long way from over

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and no one knows exactly where it's 
going to end up at the end of the

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process

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how would you describe the situation 
thus far at least the discussion the

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conversation you're having

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while the situation is dire the

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the state isn't difficult fiscal 
circumstances all its policy leadership

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is left to deal with those circumstances 
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puts a very high demand on creativity

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vision wisdom a I don't think that

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there is a great deal with them in 
cutting deeply into Arizona's higher

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education structure

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it's already been cut substantially the 
last time the statement through this

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several years ago

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and so I think they have to tread very 
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in how they go about doing that this 
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arizona's universities are not 
government programs

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their complex institutions that deliver 
very concrete benefits in a highly

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competitive environment

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and that environment does not stop

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for Arizona's particular set of 
circumstances and difficulties

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and so what our policy makers need to 
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is the impact if the decisions they make 
on the ability of these universities to

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compete in the continue to fulfill their 
constitutional mission in their state

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focused a value proposition for the 
people of Arizona

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had other numbers actually play out we 
heard from students today her concern

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that these cuts will trickle down

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to their pocketbooks well a ultimately 
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such cuts do trickle down if you want to 
use that term

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the I I think the the people that the 
legislature most need to hear from

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are the moms and dads who have to raise 
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in Arizona I spent a lot of my time

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in government service in my life

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life and in in in trying to lead the 
development of public policy for our

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state and my touch tone throughout all 
that time

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was to make Arizona one of the best 
places anywhere to raise a family

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I think that's a really good frame to 
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raising a family in Arizona requires

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access to high-quality affordable state 
university system

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I have five kids of my own they are all 
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accessing that state university system I 
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the perspectives deeply love the 
families of our state

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I came to Arizona myself as a student

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to attend one other state universities 
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and so I feel deeply the importance of 
these institutions to the state's future

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I feel deeply the importance love an 
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university system to raising a family in 
our state which is something that should

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be valued very highly

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by our legislators under Governor and I 
know it is valued

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but I'm not sure that they quite 
understand the nature of their decisions

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at this stage at this juncture

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on the ability of these institutions to 
compete

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and if they can't compete they can't 
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earlier we heard press incline describe 
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the Legislature's tenuous would you 
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I yeah I don't think that I would reach 
for that word

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a I think the context were in currently 
is obviously coloring everything which

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is the state is devoid of money

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a to sustain existing budgets

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it's so a in time to such scarcity

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everything becomes tenuous a and so

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everybody is searching for words to 
describe how they feel

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about the present difficulties at the 
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how anybody feels doesn't really matter 
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the the ability to raise families

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in Arizona and the ability of a mother 
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to plan for the future of their children

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and to bring that future in the clear 
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for them so that they they understand 
what it's going to require

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and and that everyone can have a vision 
for working out their future here

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and so that's really how I that that's 
the context in which I think about these

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and and so the legislature is in a 
difficult spot

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a and there really isn't much to be 
gained by sitting around

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casting aspersions at them what's 
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understand the impact

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their decisions

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Eileen Klein is the president of the 
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she said the board is trying to work 
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but describe the relationship is tenuous

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so we're at a different point I'm and 
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the public university system

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think maybe in days past was almost 
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would be funded and it was understood

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with the value proposition is that 
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it's clear that we have a new generation 
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multiple competing demands for general 
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and that public universities have to 
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a higher education needs to be a 
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funding from the state general fund

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you down said cuts are in fact coming 
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expecting

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we're asking that they be minimal at 
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so our request have the reductions that 
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they be kept proportionate that 
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disproportionately

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and with respect to other parts the 
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unfortunately public universities are 
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remaining areas %uh the state budget 
that are that's not protected by either

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voter mandate or constitutional 
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constitutional entities

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so it winds up leaving the universe is 
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almost the first choice now are the 
first option policymakers

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go to you and we want to reverse that we 
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public higher education

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is respected and that certainly in the 
short term is the state has some

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challenges

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we recognize some reductions must be 
made but they can be outta proportion

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and likewise as the state budget begins 
to grow again universities need to be

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included in that funding supports was 
revenues come back

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we need to see additional funds provided 
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there is no way we can achieve at the 
update objectives

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around economic growth and

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opportunities for all individuals if we 
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education system

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what is the plan moving forward may be 
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so immediately our goal is to work with 
policymakers to make sure that the

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budget reductions are kept to a minimum

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so its its not so much that the 10 
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represents an enormous hardship 
certainly tough choices will be made the

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challenge with the ten-percent proposed 
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are that they come on top of already 
having lost over four hundred million

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dollars

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in state revenue over the past several 
years and ultimately that has resulted

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in some very painful cautious to 
students and to their families

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it's simply not sustainable so in the 
short term the point is to keep the

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budget reductions to a minimum

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to make sure there aren't limited 
duration and that the university

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leadership has the flexibility

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to implement the cuts in a way that will 
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students

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at the same time the border regions will 
be evaluating tuition proposals over the

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next several months

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and working very hard to make sure that 
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doesn't become the backstop for the 
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today you heard from some other student 
primarily graduate students talking

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about how

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if this continues as it is they won't 
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so it's certainly an enormous concern 
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what the budget cuts will be on students 
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they're cutting universities

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sounds very very they're sure they think 
they're cutting institution

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the reality is that our universities are 
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and our students and today we heard some 
very impassioned pleas from students

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to make sure that the budget reductions 
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have work study

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to make sure that the impacted and keep 
them from getting the classes they need

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to graduate and to make sure that the 
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and tuition increases we have students 
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explain to that it it may just be you 
know $10 more per cent or just the

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latest cut but ultimately that cut may 
be the one that keeps them from

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continuing

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that's the last thing we want to see so 
I was pleased that students were

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invigorated

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committed and we need them to service a 
foundation of a call to action for our

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state to start rowing around public 
higher education

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how do you ensure to those students that 
yes we heard you

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and we are doing something about it so 
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increase actually our student engagement 
overall with the Board of Regents and

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throughout the spring

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we're making sure that our student 
government leaders have time

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before the border regions to really talk 
about the quality of life for students

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we have dedicated

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hearings around tuition and then 
ultimately we're going to range from so

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some other opportunities to sit down in 
here from the students

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importantly as the university's go 
through the exercise at determining how

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reductions will be made they will be 
reaching out to our campus community

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stakeholders including our students

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so that their voices can be heard in 
this process

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the University of Arizona may take up to 
a $21 million dollar cut from the state

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senior vice president for academic 
affairs and provost

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Andrew Comrie says regardless the 
university's mission

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will continue

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we're on

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concerned that these cuts are not going 
to you would like which Chris is invest

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more in higher ed

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that said we understand that the state 
and the governor have

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big challenge and we're prepared to do 
our part we like to do only a part in

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that more than that of course

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and then what we're gonna do is do 
things that we've done in past budget

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cuts

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but the spirit behind that is too 
invests really in

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the things that we our best that in our 
core activities you know we have we have

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couple are really basic jobs one is 
we're going to turn out the best

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students we possible can we have to 
teach and educate

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and then we have to create knowledge we 
have to discover stuff that's our

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mission is to use to produce knowledge 
that that will that will release a drive

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society forward

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so every on every financial decision

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frankly with its a cut or its investment 
is always made in that light

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and will do the same here so the 
students were here today they may be

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listing your comments and say

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how do you keep on with the mission will 
making such significant cuts who ends up

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picking up the tab if you will

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so i'm good news for the students and 
many than others cuz

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as you know last year we put in place 
the the tuition guarantee which we're

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very proud of and we do intend to 
continue with

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in fact a at this meeting other whatever 
reasons we announced that we actually

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gonna try to put in a guarantee for the

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mandatory fees as well so that if you 
come in as a student our current

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students as applies to for example the 
freshman class is here

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they come in they're not pay no matter 
what happens with the budget they're not

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paying

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send more in tuition for the entire 
duration there four years here

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they stick with the same price the whole 
time that are guaranteed to them

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and we're very proud that because the 
times like this that's when you might

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worry and you don't want to attend a 
university where

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perhaps you get surprises year-over-year 
on you're on a tight budget

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that can make a difference for families 
so we're particularly happy that we can

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offer the guaranteed to students and 
that will continue next year and the

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year after and so forth

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their families though who are preparing 
to send their children to college in the

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coming years

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and may be wondering what will those 
figures look like when I'm

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to send my child of so what are you 
telling those people

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so you know the letter concerned about 
cuts right now people like to

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look at the numbers and to make a direct 
correlation situation the fortunate

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thing is that

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a tuition is not completely in directly 
correlated to

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to overall cuts the budget we're gonna 
look at everything we do

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on the administrative side on the 
academic side everything the university

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and make sure that we are saving as much 
money as we possibly can there

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you know this morning at the border 
regions many we outlined how we're able

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to save

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almost five million dollars in IT costs 
by

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by by moving the movie due out to the 
cloud we've saved

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a millions more in physical 
infrastructure by doing some smart

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things

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with their facilities and so forth will 
try to do more those kinds of things to

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reduce the impact on the university 
budget

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and therefore to preserve are core 
activities

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which is you know educating and 
discovering do you foresee layoffs in

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the future

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it all depends on the nature of the cuts 
and at this point it's really too early

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to tell the current

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budget talk is really the governor's 
proposal it still has to make its way to

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the legislature before we get

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a a final decision on what are cuts look 
like we of course hope that those are

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going to be

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hell to a bare minimum because we think 
but an investment tired of course is the

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way to really make the state prosper in 
the future

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so even in the face of budget cuts there 
is room for growth

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last year and this year again on the 
border regions a

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offers up suggested policies that might

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ultimately turn into bills some %uh 
those are about investing in

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and more faculty or in research 
facilities that can help us

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you know a place to put faculty who will 
attract a more

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more support to the state of Arizona and 
we would love

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as soon as there is a moment in the 
budget to do that for two

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to make those investments because the 
course that's the investment will grow

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the university even stronger

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even quicker

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for many cuts to higher education means 
across-the-board

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increases to tuition and fees for 
students here's Arizona public media

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Sandra westall

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up it's upsetting it's not something 
anybody wants to hear but it's not

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necessarily surprising either

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am it's been kind of this trend the past 
couple years that

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it's been just getting further and 
further cut usually

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its followed by oh we don't have enough 
money so we're gonna raise your tuition

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see you can cover it

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I'm here trying to get a higher 
education and be able to contribute to

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the world

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and they're making it more difficult 
more likely the cutting all come out of

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students pockets so now what be more for 
tuition I can are they boarding now

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pairs in israel where states in the 
entire country for education

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if you have to cut it's a terrible place 
to cut from the idea

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going up even more it sounds just 
horrific

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students are going to be more dead than 
it used to be in the last several years

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arizona's three universities have taken 
at $400 million cut in state funding

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I sicker take every percent the you the 
student body

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first thing I thought it was while its 
22

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roughly a million dollars at are going 
to have to take it out

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some way somehow from our students 
wetherbee through tuition

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or whether it be through the services or 
academia they come to expect receivers

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our students feel those cuts probably 
more than anyone

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students like 21-year-old Mercedes 
colours to

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you'll the junior I pay for college

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through the you serve the Pell Grant 
provided by

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the government and then less than half 
is paid for

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by University Grants I'm also pain it 
through bonds

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now I I was trying my best to not take 
out loans but

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you know it ended up having to do it

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so was kinda like a situation where 
either I stay in school

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and take out that loan or drop out

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kinda wasn't what I wanted my freshman 
year

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it would cover my tuition and I would 
always have like maybe four hundred

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dollars left over

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five hundred dollars to like use on book 
but apparently was different this year

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I had even less money and

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to cover for tuition definitely not 
getting that little

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extra money back last semester with was 
hard

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going to college is something that's 
almost seems like a dream

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to especially to Seans in struggling 
families like I came from

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so far my experience here at the UN has 
been awesome

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just cuz I'll I love school but its it's 
not anything near

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what it's like in the movies for me make

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the path that I made life and right now 
I am

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you know the caretaker my family and a

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unfortunately my mom can't work right 
now so

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up to me to take care my my mom and my 
sister

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so and I had to pick up multiple jobs 
well

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cool full-time you after every paycheck

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have I'm lucky over thirty dollars a

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have that goes to gas and then

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whatever is left over is kind of carried 
on for another two weeks until

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I get paid again

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many times I've I felt like it would be 
just

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easier by drop out and find a full-time 
job

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you know pays better than minimum wage 
to help support my family but

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and then I I think alike I I want to be 
that person that

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my sister looked up to you and my 
nephews and my niece is look up to you

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keep

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countries I kinda just came here and 
figured things out on my own so

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I kinda wanna be that person for them 
help guide them

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I'm also a mentor for and middle school 
kids

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challengers so I can't how can I stand 
to them and

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and say yeah go to college you know 
continuing education if I

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don't do that myself if it's really that 
important for students to go

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to college then why is it still 
unobtainable

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for some students why not invest money

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and

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and education because as they say you 
know the students are the featured

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I know you know upsetting because

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you know people like me we we want our 
education we want to learn were here to

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learn

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number I'm I mean the students that if 
they

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continue with the budget cuts and 
increasing tuition it's gonna be almost

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impossible only for you know the scene 
into

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have the money to pay for it it'll just 
be it

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a dream for those who can it'll just be 
something

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unreachable for them

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Sandra westall here with me now she's 
joined by reporter Vanessa barchfield

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both here dares in a public media lady 
think

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thank you so much for being here let's 
get right to sandra in the story

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Mercedes and

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this painful decision she may have to 
make in the near future

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she said right mercy this is definitely 
a student here that is

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struggling as she told me that to spend 
a lot of time

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at that universities libraries because 
she doesn't have internet at home

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she currently doesn't have a cell phone 
because he cannot came down to her being

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able to pay the bills

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or having a cellphone herself as so

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you know any any kinda cut to her and 
her grants for tuition increases

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definitely something that will make a 
big impact in her live stances

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really living off a less than thirty 
dollars every other week

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oh and it first-generation to go to her 
to go to college

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and an essay you spoke with students 
yesterday in the graduate program who

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are

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are watching this very closely because 
they have a lot at stake as well

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yet of course so a a large group of 
graduate students actually came to the

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abortive regents meeting yesterday and 
spoke during the public comment section

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spectacle 15 minutes if I end up going 
thirty because so many

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where their to express their frustration 
for the

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they're asking for a living wage is 
there they're frustrated

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about the next round a potential cuts 
that are happening to university funding

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I'm and they feel like they're not 
involved in the budgeting process

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okay and sundress some people may watch 
Mercedes story in wonder what's next for

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her she's a junior she studying

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Italian she wants to continue her 
studies after graduation

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right yes you heard in this story she 
really really love school in

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she said that at education is something 
that she

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owns it's hers no one can take away that 
she's learning here in college

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and her dream is really to continue 
school if thats

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if that's possible for her to two years 
down the road to go to graduate school

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interest in anything that she mentioned 
in the piece she's also a mentor

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to students on the south side of Tucson 
and she tells them that

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how can I encourage you to go to college 
drop out myself so she's got a lot at

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stake here

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and Vanessa students that you I'm spoke 
with yesterday you saw they also got the

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attention one other regions in 
particular

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they're planning a trip to the state 
capital next week yep at the graduate

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student councils organizing a trip

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up to meet with and several legislators 
both Republicans and Democrats lead to

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have their

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chip express their opinions on cuts okay 
and as we heard region eilers a lot more

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to come on this no

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timetable and no real numbers answer

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alright ladies thank you so much sounder 
West after your story about Mercedes

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that's a partial for your report in 
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