1 00:00:00,510 --> 00:00:04,600 the life a graduate student what cuts to higher education mean 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,429 for the older student he won only wealthy people to be able to go to 3 00:00:08,429 --> 00:00:11,219 graduate school because those are the people whose families are supporting 4 00:00:11,219 --> 00:00:11,710 them 5 00:00:11,710 --> 00:00:15,099 from back home like if that's what you want and 6 00:00:15,099 --> 00:00:19,560 be honest about it state lawmakers meet with students but will it make a 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,130 difference in the governor's budget proposal 8 00:00:22,130 --> 00:00:26,730 they fear that given what I've heard from those were behind closed doors for 9 00:00:26,730 --> 00:00:27,689 the budget together 10 00:00:27,689 --> 00:00:34,689 universities are going to come out it's very well 11 00:00:47,649 --> 00:00:51,780 proposed budget cuts to higher education striking a chord with graduate students 12 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:53,269 throughout the state 13 00:00:53,269 --> 00:00:57,969 at the University of Arizona a grassroots organization called the Uwais 14 00:00:57,969 --> 00:01:02,430 organizing committee is pulling together in hopes of calling attention to what 15 00:01:02,430 --> 00:01:03,070 they say 16 00:01:03,070 --> 00:01:07,009 are low living wages here's a story up bro clover 17 00:01:07,009 --> 00:01:12,340 a graduate student in the gender and women's studies program 18 00:01:12,340 --> 00:01:16,840 I'm from Santa Cruz Calif I was working and started doing graduate school 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,430 in San Francisco I went to University in the time when prime 20 00:01:21,430 --> 00:01:25,970 UC Santa Cruz and and majored in American Studies and are 21 00:01:25,970 --> 00:01:30,540 I think actually some I career aspirations changed a lot after had a 22 00:01:30,540 --> 00:01:31,160 daughter 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,530 I think I just became more kinda empowered in the idea that I could 24 00:01:34,530 --> 00:01:36,440 contribute and I can make a difference 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,490 and I've always loved being in the classroom like colleges where 26 00:01:40,490 --> 00:01:44,170 is where I was politicized and we're kind of learned 27 00:01:44,170 --> 00:01:48,490 I think to kinda critically intervening in situations that are 28 00:01:48,490 --> 00:01:51,840 better social that are shared you know on and 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,040 so I wanted I wanted to contribute to that I wanted to keep going 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,080 and that's why I applied to on gender women's studies programs and 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,170 and hope to be a college professor Arizona the school that mean it offers 32 00:02:05,170 --> 00:02:09,100 so so this is the place and it kind of it am in some other studies that I was 33 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:12,890 doing this program has had addressed in transnational feminism and 34 00:02:12,890 --> 00:02:16,700 on and that's prime interest turning to social movement history and 35 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:20,180 I teach that in the classroom or that's my top when I was able to develop my own 36 00:02:20,180 --> 00:02:21,050 classed 37 00:02:21,050 --> 00:02:26,060 1 this is my sixth here so my main task right now is working on my dissertation 38 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:27,819 and I've been working on 39 00:02:27,819 --> 00:02:31,480 and I've done some archival research I have a little bit more to do 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,670 visiting archives this spring and what I'm doing is kind of drying out social 41 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:37,909 movement history's mysteries the feminist movement fat 42 00:02:37,909 --> 00:02:40,980 haven't really being addressed yet 43 00:02:40,980 --> 00:02:44,349 in in academic and and it really in other materials 44 00:02:44,349 --> 00:02:49,230 kinda like lost all pieces that I've been able to find so how's school 45 00:02:49,230 --> 00:02:52,260 the afternoon pending are 46 00:02:52,260 --> 00:02:55,430 our time and 47 00:02:55,430 --> 00:03:00,180 I would say it's and it's pretty common your site to come with me maybe two 48 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:03,569 that's one thing we were talking about was how many meetings she's been to 49 00:03:03,569 --> 00:03:07,370 I mean there's constant me extra stuff that I'm doing so yeah I try to kind of 50 00:03:07,370 --> 00:03:08,209 work that in 51 00:03:08,209 --> 00:03:11,239 but and so if I'm going committee one-on-one 52 00:03:11,239 --> 00:03:14,419 sometimes bus stop by my place an 53 00:03:14,419 --> 00:03:18,219 in set up a meeting at the office or I'm not exactly with me 54 00:03:18,219 --> 00:03:23,120 times the meeting happening are you back on them 55 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,159 him to get back on and my family and on the road 56 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:29,489 life is a graduate student its kinda frazzled you know 57 00:03:29,489 --> 00:03:33,069 but there's a lot of different stuff going on science keep a calendar 58 00:03:33,069 --> 00:03:36,120 other times it feels like you know for our 59 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,099 our summers are winter breaks often you know %ah make a plan to stay 60 00:03:40,099 --> 00:03:44,019 will this ten days I'm really just gonna stay home and I'm just gonna be writing 61 00:03:44,019 --> 00:03:47,069 I'm really getting working I'm I'm not gonna do 62 00:03:47,069 --> 00:03:50,379 all extraneous work if I can 63 00:03:50,379 --> 00:03:53,579 Amaral are put into smaller chunks and 64 00:03:53,579 --> 00:03:57,269 that is challenging with the kid so it had to like work on that with my 65 00:03:57,269 --> 00:03:57,799 daughter 66 00:03:57,799 --> 00:04:00,840 she's used to see me where and 67 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,009 a lot of times I'll just build in Savannah breaking our day 68 00:04:04,009 --> 00:04:07,970 but I'll have her doing activities or it could be a playdate with a friend or 69 00:04:07,970 --> 00:04:09,239 something she was somewhere else 70 00:04:09,239 --> 00:04:12,419 or even like right now right there in the room they're watching the Jets and 71 00:04:12,419 --> 00:04:15,729 I'll do that from maybe an hour I'll do something and I'll say well let's go 72 00:04:15,729 --> 00:04:16,489 take a walk 73 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:20,680 you know so I have to be a little bit more like multitasking 74 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,159 maybe that some students are but its you know on some level it's not that 75 00:04:25,159 --> 00:04:27,139 different from being a working mom in other ways 76 00:04:27,139 --> 00:04:28,120 I think that a lot of 77 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,949 were or a working parent who is really in you know spending much time to get a 78 00:04:31,949 --> 00:04:33,560 lot of people have to work out you know 79 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:40,560 flexible job so it's kinda like that I don't think that it's made to be 80 00:04:40,590 --> 00:04:44,130 it's not need to be that from me rate it's not really need to be something 81 00:04:44,130 --> 00:04:45,180 that everyone can do 82 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:47,820 my own departments concerned that they're not going to be able to offer 83 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:49,919 all the graduate students jobs next year 84 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:53,310 so they've already told the students like me you're at a more senior level 85 00:04:53,310 --> 00:04:57,479 to be seriously seeking every option for me 86 00:04:57,479 --> 00:05:00,400 you know this has been a plan for a while to be looking at it I guess the 87 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,270 question is 88 00:05:01,270 --> 00:05:04,979 if I can get the job in applying for right now it kinda another fitting 89 00:05:04,979 --> 00:05:06,289 position: doesn't come up 90 00:05:06,289 --> 00:05:09,320 you know I look for a look for agitating work for share 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,479 a look to see and number of colleges if I could do I'm so mad Genting 92 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:17,669 it those things fall through is there a jam in the university that I could find 93 00:05:17,669 --> 00:05:18,830 like teaching 94 00:05:18,830 --> 00:05:22,729 on it wouldn't even have to be in my department you know teaching at 95 00:05:22,729 --> 00:05:27,120 basically as an adjunct and elsewhere in the University in my mind I can't have a 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:27,889 tiered 97 00:05:27,889 --> 00:05:31,930 list stove what would be ideal and then what comes down from that 98 00:05:31,930 --> 00:05:37,040 and really none of them are completely ideal here 99 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,970 hear that word just students like 100 00:05:39,970 --> 00:05:43,870 water the assumptions that come along with that d1 only wealthy people to be 101 00:05:43,870 --> 00:05:46,650 able to go to graduate school because those are the people whose families are 102 00:05:46,650 --> 00:05:47,610 supporting them 103 00:05:47,610 --> 00:05:51,010 from back home like if that's what you want and 104 00:05:51,010 --> 00:05:55,530 be honest about it mean if we're gonna be we are students and your workers 105 00:05:55,530 --> 00:05:58,810 be are actually workers make the University run 106 00:05:58,810 --> 00:06:02,630 we need to be fairly compensated there needs to be a realistic picture 107 00:06:02,630 --> 00:06:06,710 for how graduate students are gonna make it through that five years I guess if I 108 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:08,840 was a student who was really thinking 109 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:12,880 financially principally financially 110 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,810 I don't think that I would be in this profession and within this profession I 111 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:18,800 wouldn't be in this field 112 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,990 having said that I don't wanna live in poverty 113 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:25,270 and and I don't want the people around me to do so 114 00:06:25,270 --> 00:06:28,530 have seen a number of teachers I'm 115 00:06:28,530 --> 00:06:32,450 leave the profession at a necessity this is definitely me 116 00:06:32,450 --> 00:06:36,410 not something that you would take on if he didn't love it and want to do it 117 00:06:36,410 --> 00:06:41,610 not in my field 118 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:45,479 a handful of state lawmakers say they are committed to fighting for students 119 00:06:45,479 --> 00:06:46,900 in the state legislature 120 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:50,090 one of them is House Minority Leader Eric Meyer 121 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:54,129 my colleague Christopher conover met with the house democrat on Thursday 122 00:06:54,129 --> 00:06:56,250 at the capitol 123 00:06:56,250 --> 00:06:59,430 past budget cuts total about three hundred million dollars to 124 00:06:59,430 --> 00:07:04,639 the university's we've made also pretty massive cuts the community colleges 125 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:09,110 this budget includes at least the governor's budget includes another $75 126 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:10,190 million in cuts 127 00:07:10,190 --> 00:07:14,270 to universities in a fifty percent cut to the community colleges 128 00:07:14,270 --> 00:07:17,460 and the result a bad as we've seen 129 00:07:17,460 --> 00:07:21,139 tuition increases you know when we 130 00:07:21,139 --> 00:07:24,870 make these types of cuts there's nowhere for the universities to go 131 00:07:24,870 --> 00:07:29,830 but you know increase class size for these programs and increase tuition so 132 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:33,570 Arizona has seen the largest tuition increases 133 00:07:33,570 --> 00:07:36,720 have almost any statement country I'm which 134 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,030 is in the right direction to go if we want our kids to be prepared for the 135 00:07:40,030 --> 00:07:40,830 work force 136 00:07:40,830 --> 00:07:44,810 I'm you know we have to use our colleges and community colleges to 137 00:07:44,810 --> 00:07:47,970 to train them for the jobs that are available in our economy 138 00:07:47,970 --> 00:07:51,340 Board of Regents is indicated as hat 139 00:07:51,340 --> 00:07:54,880 for university presidents they do not wanna do 140 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,940 tuition increases this coming year 141 00:07:57,940 --> 00:08:01,479 I think they're off the table 142 00:08:01,479 --> 00:08:05,010 we won't right know for sure until it actually happens but they certainly 143 00:08:05,010 --> 00:08:06,599 appear off the table 144 00:08:06,599 --> 00:08:12,000 how do you was a member of the legislature work with a budget and pass 145 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,050 a budget knowing that the universities are going to increase which means this 146 00:08:15,050 --> 00:08:17,919 is going to be a real cut I 147 00:08:17,919 --> 00:08:21,090 know it's going to be real cut I mean if you don't increase tuition you have to 148 00:08:21,090 --> 00:08:24,210 find savings elsewhere in seventy five million dollars is a lot to say 149 00:08:24,210 --> 00:08:27,370 particularly if you've already made cuts so if 150 00:08:27,370 --> 00:08:30,550 there are going to be tuition increases which I hope there's not i mean it's 151 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:33,140 gotten so expensive for middle-class Americans to 152 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:36,440 arizonans to send their kids to college I'm 153 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,289 they're gonna have to do things like increase class size when I was on the 154 00:08:39,289 --> 00:08:39,959 school board 155 00:08:39,959 --> 00:08:43,349 in Scottsdale it's exactly the same thing we have to do 156 00:08:43,349 --> 00:08:47,620 we wanted to keep keep functioning within the budget 157 00:08:47,620 --> 00:08:50,080 we have the same number kids 158 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,100 and a lower amount of revenue coming into the district we had increase class 159 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:54,680 size 160 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:58,210 and reduce programs and change schedules I'm 161 00:08:58,210 --> 00:09:02,600 and find efficiencies I mean we started turning the air conditioning of 162 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,720 soon as school was out I'm changed our bus routes 163 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,740 I'm universities have done a lot of those things 164 00:09:09,740 --> 00:09:12,990 they're also hoping that if they get some regulatory reform 165 00:09:12,990 --> 00:09:16,640 they may be able to make changes I'm some other professors aren't so happy 166 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,779 about that potentially because it'll change that pension plans 167 00:09:19,779 --> 00:09:24,550 for them so we'll see how that goes the budget as a whole 168 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:28,470 we're facing potentially what is projected to be a billion-dollar 169 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:33,460 shortfall obviously the the low-hanging fruit the easy cuts %uh 170 00:09:33,460 --> 00:09:37,330 long been taken care of in state government you remember the minority 171 00:09:37,330 --> 00:09:41,190 but still a member at the legislature active in the budget process 172 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:44,870 how do you cut a billion dollars out of the budget 173 00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:48,830 or deal with the billion dollar hole maybe it's not all cuts 174 00:09:48,830 --> 00:09:52,020 in a realistic responsible way well 175 00:09:52,020 --> 00:09:55,839 what r caucasus talked about doing is a work in a bipartisan way and 176 00:09:55,839 --> 00:09:59,820 the way we have in the past two years to get things pass that are good for the 177 00:09:59,820 --> 00:10:00,370 state 178 00:10:00,370 --> 00:10:04,890 second way is to look at everything everything's gotta be on the table on 179 00:10:04,890 --> 00:10:06,480 whether that's tax credits 180 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,720 sentencing reform for prisons you know we're gonna spend 181 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,790 another 100 million over the next three years in this budget 182 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:17,110 and prison cells private prison cells and my mind I'd rather educate and 183 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:17,880 incarcerate 184 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,440 we need to look at that other states have done sentencing reform that has 185 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,240 allowed them 186 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,320 had to change the way they people on probation 187 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,290 sentencing reform so that they don't spend that money and prisons and the 188 00:10:30,290 --> 00:10:34,010 those are long term contract it's a 20-year contracts gonna cost 189 00:10:34,010 --> 00:10:38,290 about 1.45 billion dollars over those twenty years for the prisons I'd rather 190 00:10:38,290 --> 00:10:39,070 spend that 191 00:10:39,070 --> 00:10:43,320 I our universities I'm so there's a whole bunch of things that 192 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,020 now we could look at some others have been taken off the table by the governor 193 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:49,269 if you 194 00:10:49,269 --> 00:10:52,449 I wants a bipartisan solution I think we'll have to negotiate 195 00:10:52,449 --> 00:10:57,149 what will stay and what will go and and how will get there talking about prisons 196 00:10:57,149 --> 00:11:00,760 Sheriff Bob you share for pile both come out 197 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,130 to the surprise of some people's a private prisons are not what 198 00:11:04,130 --> 00:11:09,089 Arizona needs yet there in the budget were you surprised to hear 199 00:11:09,089 --> 00:11:14,389 to very Republican County Sheriff's with that was some higher profiles come out 200 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:17,920 and say no to the governor well I think 201 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,089 all of us are concerned about our taxpayer dollars are spent 202 00:11:21,089 --> 00:11:25,860 they have found ways within their prison system and they have some empty cells 203 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:31,000 and that could be used to incarcerate someone the people that are going to 204 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:31,579 prison 205 00:11:31,579 --> 00:11:35,279 and so I think we should be looking at those solutions and 206 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:40,000 I think they'd don't wanna see our tax dollars wasted dislike I don't and 207 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,010 so you know they have offered some solutions up hopefully 208 00:11:44,010 --> 00:11:47,250 director Ryan and the governor will look at those and see if they're viable 209 00:11:47,250 --> 00:11:51,670 and can save arizonans tax dollars or keep dollars in our state rather than 210 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:52,940 going to private prisons 211 00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:57,149 looking at the budget be at higher education K-twelve 212 00:11:57,149 --> 00:12:00,610 any parts %uh the budget as he said it's very complicated 213 00:12:00,610 --> 00:12:04,860 it's a big document when you saw the governor's suggestion 214 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:08,910 his budget when you saw what has begun moving through 215 00:12:08,910 --> 00:12:12,880 committee so anything good in there anything you like yeah 216 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,690 oh yeah there's there's good things and they're a.m. there's a lot of things I 217 00:12:16,690 --> 00:12:17,480 don't like 218 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,180 I mean I would make different choices but they're things for 219 00:12:22,180 --> 00:12:24,640 protecting children to disabilities 220 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,940 looking there were no cuts to and the Department of Child Services there's 221 00:12:28,940 --> 00:12:33,250 so there's things in there where certain group of people that are very vulnerable 222 00:12:33,250 --> 00:12:34,590 are protected 223 00:12:34,590 --> 00:12:39,170 I'm what I didn't like was the the cuts education and the cuts to health care 224 00:12:39,170 --> 00:12:43,060 provider cut to health care 3 percent provider 225 00:12:43,060 --> 00:12:47,330 cut will save the state about thirty million dollars but will lose two 226 00:12:47,330 --> 00:12:49,770 hundred million dollars in federal matching funds 227 00:12:49,770 --> 00:12:53,660 and that world impact the hospital's interstate 228 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:57,490 particular in rural areas make it more difficult for them to operate 229 00:12:57,490 --> 00:13:02,900 the cuts 2k12 I'm you know it's about a thirteen million dollar cut 2k12 230 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:06,760 we should be going the other direction we're very have four billion dollars in 231 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,670 cuts to work a 12 system and when I was on the school board 232 00:13:09,670 --> 00:13:13,750 had a layup hundreds teachers and 40 percent over administrators 233 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:17,790 or thereabouts 0 I'm you know we're in a pretty deep hole 234 00:13:17,790 --> 00:13:21,730 and we need it start working our way out that's our class sizes come down our 235 00:13:21,730 --> 00:13:26,860 graduation rates increase our kids are prepared to go on to college 236 00:13:26,860 --> 00:13:30,710 assistant Senate minority leader Steve Farley met with graduate students this 237 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:31,310 week 238 00:13:31,310 --> 00:13:37,089 hearing first-hand what their concerns are here again is Christopher Conover 239 00:13:37,089 --> 00:13:40,430 the bad news for people care about education Arizona is that the cuts will 240 00:13:40,430 --> 00:13:43,300 probably be more severe than what the governor has proposed 241 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:47,050 my understanding is there they're already won the governor's budget came 242 00:13:47,050 --> 00:13:47,460 out 243 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:50,540 they had some revenue projections and 244 00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:54,520 caseload projections and school enrollment projections that were much 245 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,430 more optimistic 246 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:58,620 then the legislative joint Budget Committee 247 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:01,810 so considering that 248 00:14:01,810 --> 00:14:05,930 the person with the most experience in either the Senate the house or the 249 00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:08,070 governor's office is now senator pigs 250 00:14:08,070 --> 00:14:12,580 I think he'll be the piracy and I me with every Wednesday we talk with them 251 00:14:12,580 --> 00:14:13,680 it's pretty clear that 252 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:17,490 they're going to be cutting more than the governor suggested 253 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:21,050 and the odds-on favorite for the place 254 00:14:21,050 --> 00:14:25,500 where the cuts will come from will be the university's with 255 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:30,700 the the university's they've taken big cuts over the last couple of years 256 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:35,890 more cuts coming we graduate students up around the capital today 257 00:14:35,890 --> 00:14:41,330 met with you yes is their message being received at all or are they just getting 258 00:14:41,330 --> 00:14:45,290 to spend a day maybe two or three days over the session walking the halls 259 00:14:45,290 --> 00:14:48,520 it's being received by me it's being received by my colleagues 260 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,740 on the democratic side sadly I think the people the majority here 261 00:14:52,740 --> 00:14:57,490 art do not value education as the key economic generator for the state that it 262 00:14:57,490 --> 00:14:57,890 is 263 00:14:57,890 --> 00:15:01,200 some other think I didn't go to college 264 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,310 I didn't need the help I don't want to give all this money the spoiled brat 265 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:06,230 kids in some cases ever actually 266 00:15:06,230 --> 00:15:09,650 those words being used I'll but 267 00:15:09,650 --> 00:15:14,050 for most people who have a more nuanced thinking about 268 00:15:14,050 --> 00:15:17,620 economic development we understand that the university's 269 00:15:17,620 --> 00:15:21,690 in our state were the original economic development tool 270 00:15:21,690 --> 00:15:25,300 and they still are that's what we're training the people to become the 271 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:25,850 high-wage 272 00:15:25,850 --> 00:15:29,370 boys in the future so the businesses come here and find great people hire 273 00:15:29,370 --> 00:15:32,709 that's where we're bringing the the new entrepreneurs 274 00:15:32,709 --> 00:15:36,390 who will create great discoveries while they're at the university's 275 00:15:36,390 --> 00:15:39,920 and then bring those into new businesses with new industries 276 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,640 we having the thought of yet they could be headquartered here in Arizona that he 277 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,100 is 278 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:46,329 how you create economic development 279 00:15:46,329 --> 00:15:50,220 jobs in a good economy in the state and when you cut back on universities 280 00:15:50,220 --> 00:15:54,049 you're potentially cutting back on your entire future possibility 281 00:15:54,049 --> 00:15:57,360 that's a problem it's a big problem and I i 282 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,809 that standing up strongly against it but I fear that given what I've heard from 283 00:16:01,809 --> 00:16:05,910 those were behind closed doors for the budget together universities are going 284 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:07,160 to come out of this very well 285 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,540 if the a Senate pager house page comes to you and says 286 00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:15,670 center for leon thinking about going to 287 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:18,949 to to the University for my undergraduate degree be a 288 00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:22,029 University of Arizona Arizona State an AU 289 00:16:22,029 --> 00:16:25,790 or maybe four a graduate degree I'm about 290 00:16:25,790 --> 00:16:29,899 to finish up my time as an undergraduate can you recommend 291 00:16:29,899 --> 00:16:33,100 that they stay in-state go to one at the bar or every week and because we have 292 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,939 amazing universities here in this state 293 00:16:34,939 --> 00:16:38,569 they're doing incredible things in an environment in which they are not being 294 00:16:38,569 --> 00:16:40,589 supported by the legislature the governor 295 00:16:40,589 --> 00:16:45,129 and I i that that this testament to the kind of 296 00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:48,499 administrative power and teaching power that they have 297 00:16:48,499 --> 00:16:52,829 so it's still there still excellent institutions we really put all of them 298 00:16:52,829 --> 00:16:53,419 at risk 299 00:16:53,419 --> 00:16:57,399 if we continue to cut year after year reporting the buildings at risk we don't 300 00:16:57,399 --> 00:17:00,089 have building renewal funds that are in there so there's 301 00:17:00,089 --> 00:17:03,360 h-back systems and replacement this group that 302 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,360 patching there's all sorts of things that need to get done 303 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:09,630 and we're not paying for and I don't wanna 304 00:17:09,630 --> 00:17:13,089 I don't buy into that whole line to hear from the majority for the governor that 305 00:17:13,089 --> 00:17:14,089 we just don't have them 306 00:17:14,089 --> 00:17:17,209 the fact is we have made choices 307 00:17:17,209 --> 00:17:21,519 to spend our money on large corporate giveaway 308 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:24,610 at tax cuts that that 309 00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:28,539 it most gotta stay we have no guarantee is that they have produced 310 00:17:28,539 --> 00:17:33,019 any kind of job job return any kind of economic return 311 00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:36,610 we're just giving way to moneyweek fact we've we've given up more than $4 312 00:17:36,610 --> 00:17:37,919 billion dollars a year 313 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:42,080 in revenues since 1990 in tax cuts alone 314 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,429 and we have another 883 million that haven't even phased in yet 315 00:17:46,429 --> 00:17:49,820 over the next three years we can make the choice 316 00:17:49,820 --> 00:17:53,139 thank Governor Brewer said we should suspend those future tax cuts 317 00:17:53,139 --> 00:17:57,190 she said on her way out of office unfortunately governors he doesn't want 318 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:58,559 to have a conversation 319 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:03,200 and certainly Center big doesn't have a conversation a regular gallon we need to 320 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,899 look at how we can have sustainable revenues 321 00:18:05,899 --> 00:18:09,559 to invest in the stuff we need to continue growing because if we don't 322 00:18:09,559 --> 00:18:12,720 a low tax climate is an all you need 323 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,670 to be able to develop 324 00:18:15,670 --> 00:18:19,760 the graduate students visited the state Capitol on Thursday and say they plan to 325 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,040 travel to the capital 326 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,580 every week to talk one-on-one with lawmakers Christopher conover has more 327 00:18:25,580 --> 00:18:28,040 on their story 328 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,910 we're getting cuter sup 2 /sup reception so far the day 329 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:35,070 here in our concerns about how budget cuts could affect graduate business 330 00:18:35,070 --> 00:18:36,890 students in particular but also the 331 00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:41,350 universities in of the state of Arizona so one example that we've given 332 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:45,330 one dollar spent represents a six dollar return on investments over cutting lots 333 00:18:45,330 --> 00:18:46,680 of money from our universities 334 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,480 we're gonna read dues the return on investment so we're very concerned about 335 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:49,990 that 336 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:55,550 with I'll lawmakers in particular they get lots of people coming through their 337 00:18:55,550 --> 00:18:56,190 door 338 00:18:56,190 --> 00:18:59,960 usually lined up outside pretty much hope for you that they'll listen to you 339 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:01,860 guys are up here day maybe two 340 00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:05,420 going all such hope bill you'll get actually 341 00:19:05,420 --> 00:19:09,050 listen to I will I'll is a doubt my dad's quote 342 00:19:09,050 --> 00:19:12,970 my dad says the only practical way to live is to be positive 343 00:19:12,970 --> 00:19:16,770 so we have to be positive we have to be hopeful that our efforts and our efforts 344 00:19:16,770 --> 00:19:20,620 last week and next week in the following weeks as we said it's a message that 345 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:23,720 house case is very important I mean you invest it is 346 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,620 is a good one healthy the message gets through for a lot to really good people 347 00:19:26,620 --> 00:19:27,820 that are I know in these 348 00:19:27,820 --> 00:19:31,550 these holes if the cuts go through 349 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:37,120 as they're written what do you see happening at UA and frankly and colleges 350 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:40,830 the other the other two in a statement really you I want to see happen 351 00:19:40,830 --> 00:19:44,730 well I you probably have a lot of staff 352 00:19:44,730 --> 00:19:48,570 with this their positions hours in Stafford St take on lot more 353 00:19:48,570 --> 00:19:52,410 I may be graduate assistants to really teach about 35 percent of offers and 354 00:19:52,410 --> 00:19:53,430 secure courses 355 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:56,980 at Universal Arizona they might be asked to do a little bit more I'm so 356 00:19:56,980 --> 00:20:00,820 the people Tuesday that the more work and as far as more work 357 00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:04,530 you wonder about how well one graduate student for example 358 00:20:04,530 --> 00:20:09,320 teach you know more students from places like Phoenix and the rest to the state 359 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:09,680 so 360 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,380 a discussion about overall quality of the education with the 361 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:16,830 with the concern of the overall quality based on 362 00:20:16,830 --> 00:20:20,300 cuts in the past these potential 363 00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:24,330 likely cuts some level this year as 364 00:20:24,330 --> 00:20:29,330 graduate student finish up you know new students coming through in the spring 365 00:20:29,330 --> 00:20:32,610 and says to you hey I'm thinking about going here can 366 00:20:32,610 --> 00:20:36,640 can you tell 'em the outcome what number three universal them 367 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,140 well I mean I'm bias nearly three hours a night is the outcome you're going with 368 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:41,140 10 top-10 369 00:20:41,140 --> 00:20:44,480 20 top programs the United States by any ranking the top one percent interest in 370 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,160 the world 371 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,010 that's not going to go away but the more we cut hard it is to keep those things 372 00:20:49,010 --> 00:20:50,240 up so I think the 373 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,430 issues about these budget cuts it its competitiveness issue 374 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:56,600 do we want to have the best graduate assistants come to our universities and 375 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,540 we can offer them 376 00:20:57,540 --> 00:21:00,930 some the most competitive rates as graduate assistants were not get the 377 00:21:00,930 --> 00:21:01,570 best 378 00:21:01,570 --> 00:21:05,910 when I can keep the best I think these cuts it to a competitor business issues 379 00:21:05,910 --> 00:21:09,420 so are you guys the 380 00:21:09,420 --> 00:21:12,640 message last week message next week you gonna be back a yeah 381 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,450 so I'll be back next week on Tuesday me with something the governor's office 382 00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:20,190 I'll be back every week for as many weeks is we need to to share some that's 383 00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:22,920 a message I will as the greatest your body president but hopefully 384 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,490 lot to graduate students from the university was on a about 12 here today 385 00:21:26,490 --> 00:21:27,160 will come 386 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:34,160 and speak on behalf these issues 387 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:37,859 the buzz know if my colleague Chris for conover increased her we should note 388 00:21:37,859 --> 00:21:41,019 that you did spend some time yesterday trying to reach republicans 389 00:21:41,019 --> 00:21:44,369 in the Higher Education Committee not much luck but again this is not a 390 00:21:44,369 --> 00:21:45,409 partisan issue 391 00:21:45,409 --> 00:21:51,019 this isn't a partisan issue every year when you go back and look at the budget 392 00:21:51,019 --> 00:21:51,879 debates 393 00:21:51,879 --> 00:21:56,940 over to the the University there are plenty of republicans who say no we need 394 00:21:56,940 --> 00:22:00,940 to give money more money to the university's we don't need to cut up 395 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:04,239 so it's not necessarily a partisan 396 00:22:04,239 --> 00:22:08,639 debate the reality is we're a billion dollars in the hole 397 00:22:08,639 --> 00:22:11,929 and that money has to come from somewhere 398 00:22:11,929 --> 00:22:16,729 how you make up that whole doubt is the debate do you do it all through cuts do 399 00:22:16,729 --> 00:22:17,570 you do it through 400 00:22:17,570 --> 00:22:21,409 what are called revenue increases what you and I call tax increases 401 00:22:21,409 --> 00:22:25,299 or some combination thereof and that's where the philosophical partisan debate 402 00:22:25,299 --> 00:22:26,029 begins 403 00:22:26,029 --> 00:22:29,399 and the students also hoping to get some time with a Republican so they can have 404 00:22:29,399 --> 00:22:30,440 their story heard 405 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,469 they are when we spoke with them yesterday they 406 00:22:33,469 --> 00:22:37,039 did me with the at least one Republican yesterday 407 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:40,969 former Senate President Steve Pearce who is a still a member of the senate 408 00:22:40,969 --> 00:22:44,979 and has always been a big supporter of the university's and in the coming weeks 409 00:22:44,979 --> 00:22:49,299 are going to go back and try and meet with other Republicans or other members 410 00:22:49,299 --> 00:22:51,190 of the legislature in general 411 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:55,339 as the process moves are also some big news happening this week at the Capitol 412 00:22:55,339 --> 00:22:59,259 die and I was a superintendent of public instruction what's the story there 413 00:22:59,259 --> 00:23:02,460 the story or she fired two members the 414 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:05,580 the Board of Education she 415 00:23:05,580 --> 00:23:09,619 did not say at the time really while why she fired them this happen on Wednesday 416 00:23:09,619 --> 00:23:11,229 on Thursday 417 00:23:11,229 --> 00:23:14,690 the governor Doug Ducey reversed to the firings 418 00:23:14,690 --> 00:23:18,729 and that has set off a firestorm Douglas and a 419 00:23:18,729 --> 00:23:23,899 very strongly worded letter back to the governor accusing him of cronyism 420 00:23:23,899 --> 00:23:28,940 taking care of corporate the entities that have backed him 421 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:32,879 and and in that letter she said the reason they were fired as they were 422 00:23:32,879 --> 00:23:35,339 supporters liberal supporters have common core 423 00:23:35,339 --> 00:23:40,039 which she campaigned very strongly against where this all goes is this just 424 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:41,609 a very quick dust-up 425 00:23:41,609 --> 00:23:43,120 that will settle in the two 426 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:46,170 them all work out their issues Douglas and do see 427 00:23:46,170 --> 00:23:50,380 or is this the beginning love and even more rocky relationship will have to see 428 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:54,130 all right christopher look forty report next week to see how this sort of 429 00:23:54,130 --> 00:23:59,050 flares up if you will markers for conover thank you so much 430 00:23:59,050 --> 00:24:04,100 and now first or you don't hear every day and Illinois woman travel to Tucson 431 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:09,500 to recover a long lost family heirloom her father's world war two uniform 432 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:14,570 it was sitting in the home of former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords 433 00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:17,310 is amazing that we're gonna be down here and we were able to pick it up and meet 434 00:24:17,310 --> 00:24:18,170 mark in 435 00:24:18,170 --> 00:24:21,980 and Gabby and it was just real privilege infection 436 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:26,230 such an honor to have me your uniform their his mom 437 00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:29,340 a cave Kathy 438 00:24:29,340 --> 00:24:33,420 this this uniformity sound somewhere interest United where 439 00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:37,360 we think you're yes creatures wilder's 440 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:41,230 peapod you know she notices and even site 441 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:45,310 it was printed at seven years ago done done the 442 00:24:45,310 --> 00:24:48,680 internet defined who it belonged 443 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,340 sound good but the 1i 444 00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:56,010 founded he the belt few months ago 445 00:24:56,010 --> 00:25:01,740 I said we'll all be where she lost the uniform live with them 446 00:25:01,740 --> 00:25:05,600 look and see if English fine because really 447 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,840 eventually and them you 448 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,160 yeah and you know those 6 449 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,990 you know exciting to see here with you know his name on it 450 00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:19,990 you know LR Leroy McCaskill on 451 00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:26,990 United States Navy in very good condition thing 452 00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:29,779 when debbie's mom found that 453 00:25:29,779 --> 00:25:34,299 uniformes restore eventually she noticed that has a 454 00:25:34,299 --> 00:25:39,169 name of a sailor in it and you know to find the seller's family and and give it 455 00:25:39,169 --> 00:25:40,080 back to him is 456 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,549 you notes something nice we can do I know if my grandfather's uniform was out 457 00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:45,710 there somewhere I'd love them 458 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:50,059 that we misplaced the uniform somewhere in the house and showed up a few months 459 00:25:50,059 --> 00:25:50,460 ago 460 00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:53,570 so we looked again and we found 461 00:25:53,570 --> 00:25:57,440 you know the obituary for the better with somebody's name in it we felt that 462 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,549 obligation to try to 463 00:25:58,549 --> 00:26:02,839 figure out who it belonged to I was just in shock I just dislike Obama like 464 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:03,869 goodness you know on 465 00:26:03,869 --> 00:26:07,099 we move my mom and dad closer to us and 466 00:26:07,099 --> 00:26:11,359 about ten years ago and I booked for his uniform is weird 467 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,729 cleaning out their house and it wasn't there and I was so disappointed 468 00:26:14,729 --> 00:26:18,769 we have no connection here saw him I said gone from another source torch with 469 00:26:18,769 --> 00:26:19,950 your store whatever 470 00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:24,359 we lived in Chicago where entire life so I think I was just in shock and I 471 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,219 my heart was just for joy he didn't you know do anything really really dangerous 472 00:26:28,219 --> 00:26:29,330 he worked 473 00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:32,889 as an alum when I attrition in our aviation a 474 00:26:32,889 --> 00:26:36,570 aviation electricians and he and she worked in a little harm 475 00:26:36,570 --> 00:26:40,960 electronic on things that the plane ominous plaintiff lucrative 476 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,049 Honolulu into the home the home 477 00:26:44,049 --> 00:26:47,289 Pacific the daily fly home Monday is the day 478 00:26:47,289 --> 00:26:50,719 will be arm honoring him for his on 479 00:26:50,719 --> 00:26:55,279 Senate year that going to happen we've got a spare bedroom at home with the 480 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,760 memorabilia about World War two when 481 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,260 are both over fathers and I'm gonna build a display case 482 00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:06,240 to put this uniform M so we can we can chill 483 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,880 I wish that he is alive if you were alive he'd be 90 in April 484 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,330 I wish you the year to come down with Feldman know something he would have 485 00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:15,159 been so honored 486 00:27:15,159 --> 00:27:19,409 he my dad was very loyal but he's very humble man so 487 00:27:19,409 --> 00:27:23,190 I'm to find out that someone went out of their way to find us to give a uniform 488 00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:24,390 that would have been something that 489 00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:27,559 you know him really been blessed by itself thank you 490 00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:31,169 I'm just forever grateful to any Gabby in tonight for 491 00:27:31,169 --> 00:27:34,260 what they've done for us 492 00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:36,600 and that's our program thanks for joining us 493 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:42,630 for all of us in Arizona public media and them