1 00:00:05,972 --> 00:00:11,209 >>> THE ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS 2 00:00:11,212 --> 00:00:15,813 MEETS IN TUCSON AND HEARS FROM 3 00:00:15,816 --> 00:00:18,182 STUDENTS AFTER ANOTHER ROUND OF 4 00:00:18,185 --> 00:00:22,120 BUDGET CUTS. 5 00:00:22,123 --> 00:00:24,555 >> I'M REALLY AT THE WAY ARIZONA 6 00:00:24,558 --> 00:00:27,025 TREATS EDUCATION. 7 00:00:27,028 --> 00:00:29,927 I THINK THAT'S REALLY DANGEROUS 8 00:00:29,930 --> 00:00:33,464 AND UNFORTUNATE FOR OUR ECONOMY. 9 00:00:33,467 --> 00:00:35,166 >> A FORMER REGENT SAYS THAT'S A 10 00:00:35,169 --> 00:00:37,235 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, HIGHER 11 00:00:37,238 --> 00:00:37,635 EDUCATION SHOULD BE MORE 12 00:00:37,638 --> 00:00:39,504 AFFORDABLE. 13 00:00:39,507 --> 00:00:42,273 >> THEY COULD DO MORE TO REDUCE 14 00:00:42,276 --> 00:00:42,573 THE COSTS TO KEEP THE TUITION 15 00:00:42,576 --> 00:00:46,811 DOWN. 16 00:00:46,814 --> 00:00:47,345 >> THE CHALLENGES OF AFFORDING A 17 00:00:47,348 --> 00:01:05,496 COLLEGE EDUCATION. 18 00:01:05,499 --> 00:01:08,433 THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 19 00:01:08,436 --> 00:01:11,436 >>> THE ARIZONA LEGISLATOR 20 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:13,905 RECENTLY CUT $99 MILLION FROM 21 00:01:13,908 --> 00:01:17,008 HIGHER EDUCATION. 22 00:01:17,011 --> 00:01:18,343 THIS WEEK IS IN TUCSON HEARING 23 00:01:18,346 --> 00:01:19,877 FIRSTHAND WITH STUDENTS FACED 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,381 WITH THE RISING COST OF TUITION 25 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:32,657 AND FEES. 26 00:01:32,660 --> 00:01:34,993 FORMER U.S. SENATOR DENNIS 27 00:01:34,996 --> 00:01:39,063 RECONCINI HAD SOMETHING TO SAY 28 00:01:39,066 --> 00:01:40,465 ABOUT IS RISE IN TUITION. 29 00:01:40,468 --> 00:01:41,632 >> WE HAVE TO CHALLENGE OUR 30 00:01:41,635 --> 00:01:44,168 POLITICAL LEADERS. 31 00:01:44,171 --> 00:01:44,769 IT'S HARD, AFTER 27 YEARS IN 32 00:01:44,772 --> 00:01:46,437 ELECTED OFFICE. 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,307 IT'S HARD WHEN YOU HAVE TO ASK 34 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:50,675 THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO PAY 35 00:01:50,678 --> 00:01:54,312 SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE ELSE, 36 00:01:54,315 --> 00:01:56,180 WHATEVER IT IS, AND CERTAINLY 37 00:01:56,183 --> 00:01:57,615 WELFARE IS CONTROVERSIAL AND 38 00:01:57,618 --> 00:01:58,549 EDUCATION NOT QUITE SO MUCH, 39 00:01:58,552 --> 00:02:00,785 BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS GONE TO 40 00:02:00,788 --> 00:02:04,055 SCHOOL AND PARENTS ARE INVOLVED, 41 00:02:04,058 --> 00:02:06,257 BUT STILL, AND OUR STATE IS JUST 42 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:07,592 BOGGED DOWN WITH 43 00:02:07,595 --> 00:02:09,761 ULTRACONSERVATIVES THAT DON'T 44 00:02:09,764 --> 00:02:12,864 WANT TO PAY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION 45 00:02:12,867 --> 00:02:14,699 ANYMORE, THEY'RE BEING SUED, AS 46 00:02:14,702 --> 00:02:16,234 YOU KNOW THE STATE'S BEEN SUED 47 00:02:16,237 --> 00:02:18,202 AND SUCCESS WITHOUT A JUDGMENT 48 00:02:18,205 --> 00:02:19,637 AGAINST THE STATE FOR NOT 49 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:20,972 FOLLOWING A PROPOSITION THAT WAS 50 00:02:20,975 --> 00:02:23,875 PASSED AND WHILE I WAS ON THE 51 00:02:23,878 --> 00:02:25,777 BOARD OF REGENTS FOR EIGHT 52 00:02:25,780 --> 00:02:28,479 YEARS, FIVE, SIX OF THOSE YEARS, 53 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:34,952 FIVE OF THESE YEARS, TUITION 54 00:02:34,955 --> 00:02:35,853 WENT UP AN AVERAGE OF ABOVE 8%, 55 00:02:35,856 --> 00:02:37,588 SOMETIMES 15%. 56 00:02:37,591 --> 00:02:39,457 BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE AND TO 57 00:02:39,460 --> 00:02:40,958 THE GOVERNOR CUT VERY BADLY. 58 00:02:40,961 --> 00:02:45,330 AND I UNDERSTAND RECESSIONS AND 59 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:46,297 I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO REDUCE 60 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:50,335 THE EXPENSES. 61 00:02:50,338 --> 00:02:52,136 BUT WHEN YOU DO IT WITH COLLEGE 62 00:02:52,139 --> 00:02:54,172 EDUCATION, OR K-12 EDUCATION, 63 00:02:54,175 --> 00:02:55,873 YOU'RE HURTING YOUR ECONOMY, 64 00:02:55,876 --> 00:02:58,376 YOU'RE CAUSING MORE PAIN AND 65 00:02:58,379 --> 00:03:00,345 MORE SUFFERING AND MORE 66 00:03:00,348 --> 00:03:01,846 SACRIFICE AND IT'S REALLY A SAD 67 00:03:01,849 --> 00:03:02,714 THING FOR ARIZONA BECAUSE 68 00:03:02,717 --> 00:03:05,550 ARIZONA HAS A HISTORY OF 69 00:03:05,553 --> 00:03:07,218 CONTRIBUTING TO EDUCATION. 70 00:03:07,221 --> 00:03:10,421 WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL, LIKE I 71 00:03:10,424 --> 00:03:12,757 ALWAYS SAY, WAY LAST CENTURY, 72 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,560 THE STATE PAID OVER 80% OF IT. 73 00:03:15,563 --> 00:03:15,827 NOW I THINK IT'S DOWN TO 11% OR 74 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:18,096 12%. 75 00:03:18,099 --> 00:03:20,298 SO IT'S JUST VERY UNFORTUNATE. 76 00:03:20,301 --> 00:03:21,532 OUR UNIVERSITIES, HOWEVER, HAVE 77 00:03:21,535 --> 00:03:23,668 SUCCEEDED BECAUSE WE HAVE 78 00:03:23,671 --> 00:03:26,204 TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP AND 79 00:03:26,207 --> 00:03:29,807 UNFORTUNATELY, THE BOARD HAS 80 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:30,241 INCREASED TUITION SUB 81 00:03:30,244 --> 00:03:32,176 SUBSTANTIALLY. 82 00:03:32,179 --> 00:03:33,811 I OPPOSED THOSE TUITIONS WHEN I 83 00:03:33,814 --> 00:03:36,647 WAS THERE BECAUSE I FELT THERE 84 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:38,649 HAD TO BE A BETTER WAY, AND WITH 85 00:03:38,652 --> 00:03:40,051 FEDERAL FUNDS DRYING UP, IT 86 00:03:40,054 --> 00:03:40,718 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO 87 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:42,754 GET BETTER. 88 00:03:42,757 --> 00:03:43,888 >> WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF 89 00:03:43,891 --> 00:03:46,457 ARIZONA'S LANDSCAPE? 90 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:47,825 STUDENTS ARE NOT GETTING 91 00:03:47,828 --> 00:03:48,993 EDUCATED IN UNIVERSITIES, NOT 92 00:03:48,996 --> 00:03:50,094 PURSUING HIGHER EDUCATION. 93 00:03:50,097 --> 00:03:53,031 >> IT'S A SHAME BECAUSE ARIZONA 94 00:03:53,034 --> 00:04:02,640 IS ON THE LOWER TIER OF EVERY 95 00:04:02,643 --> 00:04:03,841 MEASUREMENT OF EDUCATION. 96 00:04:03,844 --> 00:04:07,211 DROPPING OUT, NOT GETTING 97 00:04:07,214 --> 00:04:09,280 THROUGH IN EIGHT YEARS, COST IS 98 00:04:09,283 --> 00:04:09,881 STILL ONE A THAT IS CONSIDERED A 99 00:04:09,884 --> 00:04:11,683 GOOD INVESTMENT. 100 00:04:11,686 --> 00:04:15,319 BUT IF YOU'RE A BLUE COLLAR 101 00:04:15,322 --> 00:04:18,156 FAMILY AND YOU HAVE TO PAY 102 00:04:18,159 --> 00:04:20,458 $11,000 PLUS A YEAR FOR YOUR 103 00:04:20,461 --> 00:04:22,827 COLLEGE TUITION AND EVEN IF YOU 104 00:04:22,830 --> 00:04:23,828 HAVE A JOB, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT 105 00:04:23,831 --> 00:04:26,564 GOING TO MAKE MUCH MORE THAN 106 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:28,366 THAT AS A STUDENT. 107 00:04:28,369 --> 00:04:31,002 IF YOU GET PARENTS THAT CAN HELP 108 00:04:31,005 --> 00:04:34,605 YOU OR RELATIVES, FINE, AND THE 109 00:04:34,608 --> 00:04:37,675 FEDERAL PROGRAMS ARE TREMENDOUS, 110 00:04:37,678 --> 00:04:38,743 THE PELL GRANTS AND ARE RELIED 111 00:04:38,746 --> 00:04:40,478 ON IMMENSELY. 112 00:04:40,481 --> 00:04:41,913 BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY A LOT OF 113 00:04:41,916 --> 00:04:43,881 THOSE BACK. 114 00:04:43,884 --> 00:04:45,683 AND THE SCHOLARSHIP FUNDS THAT 115 00:04:45,686 --> 00:04:49,787 OUR UNIVERSITIES HAVE CREATED 116 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:54,258 AND THE BOARD OF REGENTS 117 00:04:54,261 --> 00:04:57,929 INSISTED WE RAISE WHEN I WAS 118 00:04:57,932 --> 00:04:58,696 THERE, THAT 11% IS SET ASIDE FOR 119 00:04:58,699 --> 00:05:00,164 NEEDY STUDENTS. 120 00:05:00,167 --> 00:05:01,899 I DON'T WANT TO DRAG THIS ON, 121 00:05:01,902 --> 00:05:05,136 BUT IT'S A GOOD POINT, THE STATE 122 00:05:05,139 --> 00:05:06,771 OF ARIZONA WHEN I WAS THERE, AND 123 00:05:06,774 --> 00:05:08,740 I DON'T THINK IT'S GONE UP OR 124 00:05:08,743 --> 00:05:17,248 DOWN, PUT IN $10 MILLION FOR 125 00:05:17,251 --> 00:05:18,983 FINANCIAL AID TO STUDENTS. 126 00:05:18,986 --> 00:05:21,285 TEXAS, A VERY CONSERVATIVE 127 00:05:21,288 --> 00:05:22,353 STATE, PUTS IN 480 MILLION. 128 00:05:22,356 --> 00:05:26,357 IT'S A BIG STATE. 129 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,493 NEW YORK PUTS IN OVER $500 130 00:05:28,496 --> 00:05:30,128 MILLION FOR STUDENT EDUCATION, 131 00:05:30,131 --> 00:05:32,664 FOR FINANCIAL AID. 132 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:34,599 IT'S COMPARING MAYBE APPLES THE 133 00:05:34,602 --> 00:05:40,705 TO ORANGES WHEN YOU LACK AT THE 134 00:05:40,708 --> 00:05:41,272 SIZE OF IT, BUT ARIZONA IS JUST 135 00:05:41,275 --> 00:05:42,373 SHORT. 136 00:05:42,376 --> 00:05:43,307 THEY HAPPEN TO BE CONTROLLED BY 137 00:05:43,310 --> 00:05:43,608 THE REPUBLICANS, THEY DON'T 138 00:05:43,611 --> 00:05:56,954 CARE. 139 00:05:56,957 --> 00:05:58,556 THEY DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. 140 00:05:58,559 --> 00:06:00,158 AND THEY HAVE THEIR ARGUMENTS. 141 00:06:00,161 --> 00:06:02,960 WE HAVE A FINE YOUNG MAN WHO'S 142 00:06:02,963 --> 00:06:05,396 BEEN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN, 143 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:10,001 WHO SAYS HE WANTS EDUCATION, AND 144 00:06:10,004 --> 00:06:12,904 WHAT DOES HE DO, HE CUTS THE 145 00:06:12,907 --> 00:06:16,674 BUDGET OF $92 MILLION WHEN 146 00:06:16,677 --> 00:06:17,008 THERE'S A SURPLUS OF OVER $100 147 00:06:17,011 --> 00:06:17,775 MILLION. 148 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:21,212 I DON'T KNOW WHY. 149 00:06:21,215 --> 00:06:25,216 >> WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE 150 00:06:25,219 --> 00:06:25,717 COLLEGES AS AFFORDABLE AS 151 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,751 POSSIBLE. 152 00:06:26,754 --> 00:06:28,019 THAT'S PROBABLY A FIGHT THAT 153 00:06:28,022 --> 00:06:36,027 YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER. 154 00:06:36,030 --> 00:06:39,263 WHY ISN'T THAT ON THE FRONT BUMP 155 00:06:39,266 --> 00:06:40,765 BURNER FOR SOME OF THESE 156 00:06:40,768 --> 00:06:42,767 REGENTS? 157 00:06:42,770 --> 00:06:48,740 >> IT'S GOT TO BE MAKING THE 158 00:06:48,743 --> 00:06:51,275 CASE BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT. 159 00:06:51,278 --> 00:06:54,045 IT HAS BEEN RULED THAT THE BOARD 160 00:06:54,048 --> 00:06:55,013 OF REGENTS ACT IN THAT CAPACITY 161 00:06:55,016 --> 00:06:57,382 IN THAT CASE. 162 00:06:57,385 --> 00:07:00,918 BUT THE ARGUMENT THE IN MY 163 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:02,787 OPINION WHEN I READ THE CASE, IS 164 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:05,289 NOT THE ARGUMENT I WOULD MAKE, 165 00:07:05,292 --> 00:07:07,058 NOT THAT I'M THE MOST BRILLIANT 166 00:07:07,061 --> 00:07:09,827 LAWYER, I HAVE TALKED TO OTHERS 167 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:11,929 WHO COULD MAKE A BETTER CASE, 168 00:07:11,932 --> 00:07:14,365 THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A RELUCTANT 169 00:07:14,368 --> 00:07:15,900 FOR THE STATE OF ARIZONA TO BE 170 00:07:15,903 --> 00:07:17,902 SUING THE ARIZONA GOVERNMENT AND 171 00:07:17,905 --> 00:07:19,370 THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR 172 00:07:19,373 --> 00:07:19,804 FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE 173 00:07:19,807 --> 00:07:26,444 CONSTITUTION. 174 00:07:26,447 --> 00:07:30,081 AND NOW THE BOARD IS MADE UP OF 175 00:07:30,084 --> 00:07:31,282 IS MADE OF UP GOVERNMENT 176 00:07:31,285 --> 00:07:34,285 APPOINTEES AND IT'S THEIR GOAL 177 00:07:34,288 --> 00:07:39,257 TO DO THAT. 178 00:07:39,260 --> 00:07:40,358 WHEN IT WAS A DEMOCRATIC 179 00:07:40,361 --> 00:07:41,092 APPOINTEES, WITH LEGAL ADVICE, 180 00:07:41,095 --> 00:07:42,093 APPOINTEES, WITH LEGAL ADVICE, 181 00:07:42,096 --> 00:07:43,294 IT WAS ENOUGH TO CONVINCE THE 182 00:07:43,297 --> 00:07:44,696 MAJORITY OF THE REUNDERS TO TAKE 183 00:07:44,699 --> 00:07:46,898 THAT ACTION. 184 00:07:46,901 --> 00:07:47,765 >> WHY ARE THE PRESIDENTS OF 185 00:07:47,768 --> 00:07:49,467 UNIVERSITIES PAID SO MUCH? 186 00:07:49,470 --> 00:07:52,403 >> WELL, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, 187 00:07:52,406 --> 00:07:54,672 AND I STRUGGLED WITH IT, AND I 188 00:07:54,675 --> 00:07:56,641 STRUGGLED WITH WHAT WE PAY OUR 189 00:07:56,644 --> 00:07:58,376 COACHES, WHEN YOU'RE PAYING 190 00:07:58,379 --> 00:08:00,478 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A COACH 191 00:08:00,481 --> 00:08:01,846 AND YOU'RE ASKING STUDENTS FOR A 192 00:08:01,849 --> 00:08:06,651 15% RAISE IN TUITION. 193 00:08:06,654 --> 00:08:09,420 AND IT'S THE REALITY OF COLLEGE 194 00:08:09,423 --> 00:08:09,754 LIFE, AND THE COMPETITION IN MY 195 00:08:09,757 --> 00:08:11,889 OPINION. 196 00:08:11,892 --> 00:08:14,692 AND TO GET THE QUALITY TEACHERS 197 00:08:14,695 --> 00:08:15,994 LIKE PRESIDENT DEHART AND 198 00:08:15,997 --> 00:08:18,329 PRESIDENT CROWE AND OUR NEW 199 00:08:18,332 --> 00:08:19,230 PRESIDENT AT NAU, IT'S A 200 00:08:19,233 --> 00:08:22,266 COMPETITIVE NATURE. 201 00:08:22,269 --> 00:08:23,968 >> THE LAST ROUND OF STATE CUTS 202 00:08:23,971 --> 00:08:26,070 RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF MORE 203 00:08:26,073 --> 00:08:28,906 THAN 300 JOBS AT THE UNIVERSITY 204 00:08:28,909 --> 00:08:30,641 OF ARIZONA AND THE U OF A WILL 205 00:08:30,644 --> 00:08:32,543 RECEIVE MORE THAN $30 MILLION 206 00:08:32,546 --> 00:08:35,213 LESS IN STATE FUNDING. 207 00:08:35,216 --> 00:08:37,315 MANNY FELIX, YOU'RE THE STUDENT 208 00:08:37,318 --> 00:08:38,049 BODY PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY 209 00:08:38,052 --> 00:08:40,051 OF ARIZONA. 210 00:08:40,054 --> 00:08:40,718 >> LAST TIME I CHECKED, YES. 211 00:08:40,721 --> 00:08:41,386 >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 212 00:08:41,389 --> 00:08:43,654 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 213 00:08:43,657 --> 00:08:45,723 >> THE BOARD OF REGENTS ARE IN 214 00:08:45,726 --> 00:08:47,925 TOWN AND EVERYONE ALWAYS THINKS 215 00:08:47,928 --> 00:08:49,160 THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING 216 00:08:49,163 --> 00:08:50,028 ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT 217 00:08:50,031 --> 00:08:51,863 AFFECT TUITION. 218 00:08:51,866 --> 00:08:55,867 WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM YOUR 219 00:08:55,870 --> 00:08:56,501 PEERS AT THE U OF A ABOUT FROM 220 00:08:56,504 --> 00:08:57,902 THEIR PEERS. 221 00:08:57,905 --> 00:08:58,803 >>> THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT 222 00:08:58,806 --> 00:09:00,571 DISCUSSIONS GOING ON. 223 00:09:00,574 --> 00:09:02,573 THERE'S DISCUSSIONS ABOUT 224 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:06,110 TUITION, ABOUT "THE MATRIX," 225 00:09:06,113 --> 00:09:08,112 ABOUT THE THREE UNIVERSITIES AND 226 00:09:08,115 --> 00:09:08,413 ALSO ABOUT THE NEW FUNDING 227 00:09:08,416 --> 00:09:10,415 MODEL. 228 00:09:10,418 --> 00:09:11,983 SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF 229 00:09:11,986 --> 00:09:14,452 DISCUSSION GOING ON THAT ALWAYS 230 00:09:14,455 --> 00:09:16,621 TIES BACK TO THE TUITION AND THE 231 00:09:16,624 --> 00:09:17,689 BUDGET CUTS THAT WE EXPERIENCED 232 00:09:17,692 --> 00:09:19,691 LAST YEAR. 233 00:09:19,694 --> 00:09:22,527 THERE IS DISCUSSION ON IT, BUT 234 00:09:22,530 --> 00:09:24,429 WE NEED TO FOCUS ON HOW WE MOVE 235 00:09:24,432 --> 00:09:24,996 FORWARD INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON 236 00:09:24,999 --> 00:09:27,532 THE PAST. 237 00:09:27,535 --> 00:09:28,866 >> HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD? 238 00:09:28,869 --> 00:09:31,803 BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY 239 00:09:31,806 --> 00:09:33,705 SEEN DECLINING NUMBERS IN 240 00:09:33,708 --> 00:09:35,807 ENROLLMENT, PEOPLE ARE TAKING 241 00:09:35,810 --> 00:09:36,507 LESS CLASSES SO THEY CAN ENROLL 242 00:09:36,510 --> 00:09:38,476 IN SCHOOL. 243 00:09:38,479 --> 00:09:41,079 >> I HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN THAT, 244 00:09:41,082 --> 00:09:43,014 AND JUST LISTENING TO 245 00:09:43,017 --> 00:09:43,715 CONVERSATIONS FROM MY PEERS, I 246 00:09:43,718 --> 00:09:45,683 CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT. 247 00:09:45,686 --> 00:09:49,921 BUT I THINK A VERY GOOD WAY TO 248 00:09:49,924 --> 00:09:50,621 MOVE FORWARD IS THROUGH THE NEW 249 00:09:50,624 --> 00:09:52,357 FUNDING MODEL. 250 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,125 FUNDING MODEL. 251 00:09:54,128 --> 00:09:56,427 THE STATE FUNDS PAYS BE ABOUT 252 00:09:56,430 --> 00:09:58,629 30% OF A STUDENT'S TUITION AND 253 00:09:58,632 --> 00:10:02,200 TO SLOWLY INCREASE THAT AMOUNT 254 00:10:02,203 --> 00:10:05,236 CLOSE ER TO 50%, THAT WOULD BE A 255 00:10:05,239 --> 00:10:06,437 MONUMENTAL THING TO DO IN MY 256 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,171 PERSPECTIVE, AND I THINK THAT'S 257 00:10:07,174 --> 00:10:08,106 PERSPECTIVE, AND I THINK THAT'S 258 00:10:08,109 --> 00:10:10,541 A GOOD WAY TO START FOR NOW. 259 00:10:10,544 --> 00:10:12,276 THE WAY THAT WE MEASURE MATRIX, 260 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:13,845 THE WAY THAT WE MEASURE THE 261 00:10:13,848 --> 00:10:15,313 QUALITY OF EDUCATION OF A 262 00:10:15,316 --> 00:10:16,547 STUDENT, THAT'S ALSO BEING 263 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:16,948 TALKED ABOUT AND DISCUSSED 264 00:10:16,951 --> 00:10:19,217 TODAY. 265 00:10:19,220 --> 00:10:21,853 I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE HAS WHAT 266 00:10:21,856 --> 00:10:23,221 CONSTITUTES A QUALITY EDUCATION 267 00:10:23,224 --> 00:10:24,322 AND EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN 268 00:10:24,325 --> 00:10:26,591 OPINION ON THAT. 269 00:10:26,594 --> 00:10:27,759 BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE COME 270 00:10:27,762 --> 00:10:29,727 TO A CONSENSUS. 271 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:31,929 JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW 272 00:10:31,932 --> 00:10:34,399 DO WE MEASURE THE QUALITY OF 273 00:10:34,402 --> 00:10:36,868 EDUCATION AND "THE MATRIX" FROM 274 00:10:36,871 --> 00:10:37,301 THE THREE DIFFERENT 275 00:10:37,304 --> 00:10:38,269 UNIVERSITIES. 276 00:10:38,272 --> 00:10:40,738 >> YOU WORK WITH A LOT OF 277 00:10:40,741 --> 00:10:43,274 DIFFERENT FOLKS HERE AT THE U OF 278 00:10:43,277 --> 00:10:43,908 A, DOES EVERYONE SEEM TO 279 00:10:43,911 --> 00:10:45,376 UNDERSTAND THE STUDENTS' 280 00:10:45,379 --> 00:10:47,412 PERSPECTIVE AND THE FACT THAT 281 00:10:47,415 --> 00:10:52,383 THE IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO GO 282 00:10:52,386 --> 00:10:55,019 TO SCHOOL NOW? 283 00:10:55,022 --> 00:10:56,921 >> ADMINISTRATORS ALWAYS KEEP 284 00:10:56,924 --> 00:10:58,156 THAT IN MIND, NO ONE WANTS TO 285 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:00,191 SEE TUITION INCREASE. 286 00:11:00,194 --> 00:11:05,430 THE GOAL IS TO HAVE TUITION AS 287 00:11:05,433 --> 00:11:07,231 FREE AS POSSIBLE, BUT 288 00:11:07,234 --> 00:11:08,433 UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE TO RAISE 289 00:11:08,436 --> 00:11:10,435 TUITION, AND IN THE FUTURE TO 290 00:11:10,438 --> 00:11:13,271 MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE AND FOR 291 00:11:13,274 --> 00:11:15,340 EVERYONE TO RECEIVE A BETTER 292 00:11:15,343 --> 00:11:16,474 QUALITY EDUCATION TO BE MORE 293 00:11:16,477 --> 00:11:19,377 SUCCESSFUL AFTER COLLEGE AND GET 294 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:21,179 A JOB, AND JUST -- YOU KNOW THE 295 00:11:21,182 --> 00:11:23,247 STORY, I BELIEVE WE DO LISTEN TO 296 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:24,716 THESE CONCERNS AND WITH WE TRY 297 00:11:24,719 --> 00:11:26,017 TO ACCOMMODATE AS MUCH AS 298 00:11:26,020 --> 00:11:27,819 POSSIBLE, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE 299 00:11:27,822 --> 00:11:29,954 HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE 300 00:11:29,957 --> 00:11:30,521 FOR THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE 301 00:11:30,524 --> 00:11:33,057 STUDENTS. 302 00:11:33,060 --> 00:11:36,627 SO I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION 303 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:37,862 DOES A GOOD JOB WITH THAT, 304 00:11:37,865 --> 00:11:39,263 ALWAYS KEEPS THE BEST INTERESTS 305 00:11:39,266 --> 00:11:40,631 OF THE STUDENTS IN MIND. 306 00:11:40,634 --> 00:11:43,434 >> THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE 307 00:11:43,437 --> 00:11:45,670 BOARD OF REGENTS ARE OFTEN 308 00:11:45,673 --> 00:11:46,070 MAKING THESE CUTS TO HIGHER 309 00:11:46,073 --> 00:11:47,238 EDUCATION. 310 00:11:47,241 --> 00:11:48,139 DO YOU THINK THE STUDENTS EXPECT 311 00:11:48,142 --> 00:11:50,041 TOO MUCH OF THE STATE WHEN 312 00:11:50,044 --> 00:11:51,376 THEY'RE TRYING TO EARN A COLLEGE 313 00:11:51,379 --> 00:11:54,145 DEGREE? 314 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:55,546 >> I THINK -- WE ALWAYS EXPECT 315 00:11:55,549 --> 00:11:57,515 EVERYTHING TO GO PERFECTLY AND 316 00:11:57,518 --> 00:11:58,750 WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG, 317 00:11:58,753 --> 00:12:00,985 THAT'S WHEN EVERYONE REALLY 318 00:12:00,988 --> 00:12:01,319 STARTS TO PAYING ATTENTION TO 319 00:12:01,322 --> 00:12:03,154 ISSUES. 320 00:12:03,157 --> 00:12:05,590 AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE 321 00:12:05,593 --> 00:12:07,191 BIGGEST DOWNFALL THAT WE HAVE. 322 00:12:07,194 --> 00:12:08,426 SO LAST YEAR WHEN THE BUDGET 323 00:12:08,429 --> 00:12:10,662 CUTS HAPPENED. 324 00:12:10,665 --> 00:12:13,865 YOU JUST READ THE HEADLINES, 325 00:12:13,868 --> 00:12:16,634 WITH 100 MILLION BUDGET CUTS IN 326 00:12:16,637 --> 00:12:17,635 ARIZONA, WITH HIGHER EDUCATION, 327 00:12:17,638 --> 00:12:20,138 YOU SAY YOU KNOW WHAT? 328 00:12:20,141 --> 00:12:22,206 IF THEY'RE NOT INVESTING IN MY 329 00:12:22,209 --> 00:12:24,742 EDUCATION, WHY SHOULD I SHOW AN 330 00:12:24,745 --> 00:12:25,910 INTEREST IN MY EDUCATION. 331 00:12:25,913 --> 00:12:28,513 I TELL PEOPLE THAT, INSTEAD 332 00:12:28,516 --> 00:12:30,214 OF -- THERE'S DEFINITELY, IT'S 333 00:12:30,217 --> 00:12:31,516 UNFORTUNATE THAT THE BUDGET CUTS 334 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:33,317 WERE MADE IN THE FIRST PLACE, 335 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,319 BUT I THINK IT'S, LIKE I SAID, 336 00:12:35,322 --> 00:12:39,023 HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS 337 00:12:39,026 --> 00:12:46,030 POINT ON? 338 00:12:46,033 --> 00:12:50,501 AND WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THAT. 339 00:12:50,504 --> 00:12:52,503 WE SHOULDN'T BE UPSET ABOUT IT. 340 00:12:52,506 --> 00:12:53,905 BUT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IN THE 341 00:12:53,908 --> 00:12:55,039 FUTURE, AND SLOWLY GET THAT 342 00:12:55,042 --> 00:12:58,509 MONEY THAT WE WERE CUT AND 343 00:12:58,512 --> 00:13:00,978 SLOWLY BRING I IT BACK TO HIGHER 344 00:13:00,981 --> 00:13:03,181 EDUCATION OR HOW IS IT THAT WE 345 00:13:03,184 --> 00:13:05,416 CAN HELP ARIZONA GROW AS A STATE 346 00:13:05,419 --> 00:13:07,185 AND SEE THE QUALITY OF OUR 347 00:13:07,188 --> 00:13:09,620 EDUCATION IN ARIZONA GO HIGHER. 348 00:13:09,623 --> 00:13:14,092 >> THE ARIZONA DAILY WILDCAT IS 349 00:13:14,095 --> 00:13:19,697 A STUDENT RUN NEWSPAPER AND THIS 350 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:22,133 FALL THE PAPER RAN AN EDITORIAL 351 00:13:22,136 --> 00:13:22,900 ASKING ADMINISTRAORS TO CUT 352 00:13:22,903 --> 00:13:25,003 HIGHER EDUCATION. 353 00:13:25,006 --> 00:13:26,204 >> WE TALKED ABOUT SINCE THE 354 00:13:26,207 --> 00:13:29,140 INCREASE IN TUITION IN THE PAST 355 00:13:29,143 --> 00:13:30,375 FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE HAD 356 00:13:30,378 --> 00:13:35,880 DEFINITELY THE MOST IN TERMS OF 357 00:13:35,883 --> 00:13:38,483 INFLATION AND NOT REALLY OTHER 358 00:13:38,486 --> 00:13:39,317 COSTS, RISING TUITIONS FOR 359 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,854 STATES IN THE UNIVERSITY. 360 00:13:42,857 --> 00:13:44,822 AS WELL AS THE MOST INCREASED 361 00:13:44,825 --> 00:13:47,325 SPENDING PER STUDENT HEAD FOR 362 00:13:47,328 --> 00:13:49,360 HIGHER LEARNING, SO IT'S KIND OF 363 00:13:49,363 --> 00:13:50,762 WE'RE SPENDING SO MUCH MORE AND 364 00:13:50,765 --> 00:13:51,963 REALLY RECEIVING SO MUCH LESS, A 365 00:13:51,966 --> 00:13:54,766 SITUATION THAT WE WERE A LITTLE 366 00:13:54,769 --> 00:13:57,035 BIT SHOCKED TO REALLY LOOK AT 367 00:13:57,038 --> 00:13:58,269 THE NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY 368 00:13:58,272 --> 00:14:03,107 FOLLOWING THE FRINGE BUDGET CUTS 369 00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:10,515 FROM THE GOVERNOR AS WELL AS THE 370 00:14:10,518 --> 00:14:12,483 ABOR PLAN TO APPROVE THE SALARY 371 00:14:12,486 --> 00:14:14,452 INCREASES FOR THE 2024-2025 372 00:14:14,455 --> 00:14:17,722 PLAN. 373 00:14:17,725 --> 00:14:20,158 >> THE BOARD OF REGENTS SAY WE 374 00:14:20,161 --> 00:14:25,063 HAVE TO RAISE TUITION, AND THE 375 00:14:25,066 --> 00:14:31,269 GOVERNOR SIGNS OFF ON IT. 376 00:14:31,272 --> 00:14:32,804 IS IT FAIR TO GO TO THE REGENTS? 377 00:14:32,807 --> 00:14:34,005 >> I THINK THAT WE WERE 378 00:14:34,008 --> 00:14:39,210 DISAPPOINTED WITH THE HEADS OF 379 00:14:39,213 --> 00:14:40,878 THE INSTITUTIONS THAT THEY WERE 380 00:14:40,881 --> 00:14:42,947 WILLING TO TAKE THESE RAISES. 381 00:14:42,950 --> 00:14:45,683 I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WERE 382 00:14:45,686 --> 00:14:46,050 PARTICULARLY DISAPPOINTED IN AB 383 00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:47,919 OR. 384 00:14:47,922 --> 00:14:49,754 THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN 385 00:14:49,757 --> 00:14:51,522 THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE PUBLIC 386 00:14:51,525 --> 00:14:53,591 UNIVERSITIES IN ARIZONA, KEEP IT 387 00:14:53,594 --> 00:14:55,893 PROFITABLE SO THAT IT CAN 388 00:14:55,896 --> 00:14:56,627 SUSTAIN ITSELF IN THE WAKE OF 389 00:14:56,630 --> 00:15:00,765 THESE HORRIBLE BUDGET CUTS THAT 390 00:15:00,768 --> 00:15:04,602 WE'RE EXPERIENCING. 391 00:15:04,605 --> 00:15:06,037 BUT THE PRESIDENTS REALLY SHOULD 392 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,472 NOT HAVE AS THE HEAD OF THESE 393 00:15:07,475 --> 00:15:09,807 INSTITUTIONS TAKEN THESE RAISES. 394 00:15:09,810 --> 00:15:12,043 OBVIOUSLY RAISES TO THEIR 395 00:15:12,046 --> 00:15:15,346 COMPENSATION COULDN'T HAVE SAVED 396 00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:18,449 THE OVER 300 JOBS THAT WERE CUT 397 00:15:18,452 --> 00:15:18,883 IN THE PAST FISCAL YEAR FROM OUR 398 00:15:18,886 --> 00:15:24,389 UNIVERSITY. 399 00:15:24,392 --> 00:15:28,559 AN INCREASED IN 20,000 IN 400 00:15:28,562 --> 00:15:30,695 HOUSING ALLOWANCE AND CAR 401 00:15:30,698 --> 00:15:34,198 ALLOWANCE. 402 00:15:34,201 --> 00:15:36,501 AND SALARY ISN'T GOING TO PAY 403 00:15:36,504 --> 00:15:37,969 FOR 375 FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBERS. 404 00:15:37,972 --> 00:15:40,304 BUT IT'S JUST THE PRINCIPAL OF 405 00:15:40,307 --> 00:15:42,373 THE MATTER, BUT THEY, AS THE 406 00:15:42,376 --> 00:15:43,908 HEADS OF THESE INSTITUTIONS AND 407 00:15:43,911 --> 00:15:45,109 THESE UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS HAVE 408 00:15:45,112 --> 00:15:46,477 BEEN ACTIVE LONG ENOUGH TO 409 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,180 UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE THERE 410 00:15:49,183 --> 00:15:51,182 TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND TO 411 00:15:51,185 --> 00:15:53,084 PROVIDE A SERVICE AND NOT TO GET 412 00:15:53,087 --> 00:15:53,751 AN INCREASE IN PAY EVERY 413 00:15:53,754 --> 00:15:54,018 QUARTER. 414 00:15:54,021 --> 00:15:55,353 6. 415 00:15:55,356 --> 00:15:57,288 >> DO YOU THINK STUDENTS EXPECT 416 00:15:57,291 --> 00:16:02,593 TOO MUCH OR ASK TOO MUCH OF THE 417 00:16:02,596 --> 00:16:04,362 STATE AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE 418 00:16:04,365 --> 00:16:04,762 TAKING ON MORE OF THESE COSTS 419 00:16:04,765 --> 00:16:08,700 THEMSELVES? 420 00:16:08,703 --> 00:16:09,434 >> I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK 421 00:16:09,437 --> 00:16:09,867 THEY'RE ASKING TOO MUCH OF THE 422 00:16:09,870 --> 00:16:14,906 STATE. 423 00:16:14,909 --> 00:16:16,541 I'M PERSONALLY A BENEFACTOR TO 424 00:16:16,544 --> 00:16:18,876 GET UNIVERSITIES TO GET MORE 425 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:20,578 MONEY FOR THE UNIVERSITIES. 426 00:16:20,581 --> 00:16:21,679 I'M PART OF THE SCHOLARSHIP 427 00:16:21,682 --> 00:16:24,615 PROGRAM, IT'S A QUARTER OF WHAT 428 00:16:24,618 --> 00:16:26,818 IT USED TO BE AND IT CAN BARELY 429 00:16:26,821 --> 00:16:28,353 COVER COURT COSTS AND MANDATORY 430 00:16:28,356 --> 00:16:30,555 FEES AND ALL THE STUFF THAT'S 431 00:16:30,558 --> 00:16:32,390 BEING BUILT AROUND TUITION 432 00:16:32,393 --> 00:16:34,459 THAT'S AROUND TUITION THAT AB OR 433 00:16:34,462 --> 00:16:36,794 IS APPROVING. 434 00:16:36,797 --> 00:16:38,296 SO WE HAVE STUDENT WELLNESS 435 00:16:38,299 --> 00:16:40,031 FEES, THE LAND GRANT FEES FOR 436 00:16:40,034 --> 00:16:42,567 UNIVERSITY EXPANSION, THE IT 437 00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:44,235 BOARD FEE, THE FRESHMAN FEE FOR 438 00:16:44,238 --> 00:16:50,541 FRESHMAN STUDENTS, ALL OF THESE 439 00:16:50,544 --> 00:16:52,877 FEES THAT ARE ON TOP OF TUITION 440 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,178 THAT'S NOT EXPLCITLY PART OF 441 00:16:54,181 --> 00:16:59,617 TUITION. 442 00:16:59,620 --> 00:17:01,419 SO WE HAVE THE BFA FILM PROGRAM, 443 00:17:01,422 --> 00:17:03,554 THOSE STUDENTS ARE PAYING ABOUT 444 00:17:03,557 --> 00:17:05,323 $2,000 IN COURSE FEES DURING THE 445 00:17:05,326 --> 00:17:09,360 COURSE OF THEIR UNDERGRADUATE 446 00:17:09,363 --> 00:17:12,263 YEAR, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO 447 00:17:12,266 --> 00:17:16,167 SPEND 15,000 ON THEIR 448 00:17:16,170 --> 00:17:18,469 UNDERGRADUATE PROGRAS WHICH IS 449 00:17:18,472 --> 00:17:20,338 FOR FILMS. 450 00:17:20,341 --> 00:17:21,539 WE NEED YOU TO PAY FOR ALL OF 451 00:17:21,542 --> 00:17:22,840 THESE THINGS AND THEN YOU HAVE 452 00:17:22,843 --> 00:17:24,842 TO PAY FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS 453 00:17:24,845 --> 00:17:27,345 THAT YOU WANT TO DO, IF YOU WANT 454 00:17:27,348 --> 00:17:30,648 TO TAKE AN ONLINE COURSE, THAT'S 455 00:17:30,651 --> 00:17:32,383 A FEE, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A 456 00:17:32,386 --> 00:17:36,120 COURSE THAT'S ONLINE AND IN 457 00:17:36,123 --> 00:17:41,392 PERSON, THAT'S A FEE. 458 00:17:41,395 --> 00:17:43,628 A IT'S NOT FEES THAT REALLY 459 00:17:43,631 --> 00:17:44,796 PUBLIC EDUCATION WAS MEANT TO 460 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:47,598 BE. 461 00:17:47,601 --> 00:17:51,169 >> A PROTEST FOR LOW WAGES, 462 00:17:51,172 --> 00:17:52,737 TUITION INCREASES AND EMPLOYEE 463 00:17:52,740 --> 00:17:58,710 LAYOFFS. 464 00:17:58,713 --> 00:17:58,943 HERE'S SARAH NETHERTON AT U OF 465 00:17:58,946 --> 00:18:00,511 A. 466 00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:03,014 >> ACROSS THE BOARD, A LOT OF IT 467 00:18:03,017 --> 00:18:04,315 IS FUNDING, WE AREN'T ELIGIBLE 468 00:18:04,318 --> 00:18:09,721 FOR A LOT OF THE FINANCIAL AID 469 00:18:09,724 --> 00:18:11,356 THAT YOU CAN GET AS AN 470 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,524 UNDERGRAD. 471 00:18:13,527 --> 00:18:15,093 AND YOU CAN WORK, AND THAT'S 472 00:18:15,096 --> 00:18:17,095 GOOD, BUT IT MAKES IT MORE 473 00:18:17,098 --> 00:18:18,096 COLLAGING TO COMPLETE YOUR 474 00:18:18,099 --> 00:18:19,731 STUDIES ON TIME. 475 00:18:19,734 --> 00:18:20,531 IT'S JUST A BALANCE THAT WE HAVE 476 00:18:20,534 --> 00:18:35,213 TO WALK AS FAR AS PAYING FOR 477 00:18:35,216 --> 00:18:37,849 EDUCATION. 478 00:18:37,852 --> 00:18:42,387 >> I READ A REPORT THAT SOME OF 479 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:43,421 THE NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN 480 00:18:43,424 --> 00:18:45,923 OTHERS IN THE STATE. 481 00:18:45,926 --> 00:18:47,392 >> WE'RE STUDENT WORKERS, WHICH 482 00:18:47,395 --> 00:18:50,361 IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY 483 00:18:50,364 --> 00:18:51,529 BECAUSE IT DOES TRANSFER TO 484 00:18:51,532 --> 00:18:52,597 EDUCATION, BUT IT'S A PART-TIME 485 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,531 JOB AND YOU DON'T MAKE ENOUGH TO 486 00:18:53,534 --> 00:18:56,067 LIVE ON. 487 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:57,969 >> IT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR 488 00:18:57,972 --> 00:18:59,771 GRADUATE STUDENTS TO HAVE A 489 00:18:59,774 --> 00:19:00,171 FAMILY LIFE, HAVE SOME OTHER 490 00:19:00,174 --> 00:19:02,173 EXPERIENCES. 491 00:19:02,176 --> 00:19:03,675 YOU'RE A SINGLE MOM WITH TWO 492 00:19:03,678 --> 00:19:06,711 SMALL CHILDREN. 493 00:19:06,714 --> 00:19:09,614 HOW DO YOU MANAGE -- YOU JUST 494 00:19:09,617 --> 00:19:11,916 EARNED YOUR MASTERS -- 495 00:19:11,919 --> 00:19:13,251 >> A DOCTORAL DEGREE. 496 00:19:13,254 --> 00:19:15,053 >> A DOCTORAL DEGREE. 497 00:19:15,056 --> 00:19:16,621 HOW DO YOU MANAGE A LIFE OF 498 00:19:16,624 --> 00:19:18,923 BEING A STUDENT AND HAVING A 499 00:19:18,926 --> 00:19:19,290 DREAM OF SERVING IN A GREATER 500 00:19:19,293 --> 00:19:24,729 CAPACITY? 501 00:19:24,732 --> 00:19:25,363 >> VERY CAREFULLY WITH A LOT OF 502 00:19:25,366 --> 00:19:27,165 TIME MANAGEMENT. 503 00:19:27,168 --> 00:19:28,666 BUT AT THIS POINT, IT'S A 504 00:19:28,669 --> 00:19:31,402 NECESSITY FOR ME, I GOT DIVORCED 505 00:19:31,405 --> 00:19:35,306 AND REALIZED IN OUR ECONOMY I 506 00:19:35,309 --> 00:19:36,607 COULD NOT MAKE A LIVING WITH AN 507 00:19:36,610 --> 00:19:38,309 UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE. 508 00:19:38,312 --> 00:19:40,211 I HAVE A HISTORY IN SOCIAL WORK 509 00:19:40,214 --> 00:19:42,280 AND I WANT TO DO SOCIAL WORK AND 510 00:19:42,283 --> 00:19:42,613 I CAN'T SUPPORT MY KIDS ON ONE 511 00:19:42,616 --> 00:19:46,951 INCOME. 512 00:19:46,954 --> 00:19:52,490 AND SO I WENT BACK TO SCHOOL. 513 00:19:52,493 --> 00:19:53,358 AND SO IT'S KIND OF AN ODD 514 00:19:53,361 --> 00:19:54,058 CATCH-22, THAT IN ORDER TO BE 515 00:19:54,061 --> 00:19:55,793 CATCH-22, THAT IN ORDER TO BE 516 00:19:55,796 --> 00:19:57,662 WITH YOUR CHILDREN, IN ORDER TO 517 00:19:57,665 --> 00:20:00,431 EXCAVATE THE FAMILY, YOU NEED 518 00:20:00,434 --> 00:20:02,800 HIGHER EDUCATION, BUT THAT WHOLE 519 00:20:02,803 --> 00:20:04,435 PROCESS IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO 520 00:20:04,438 --> 00:20:17,949 BALANCE WITH A FAMILY. 521 00:20:17,952 --> 00:20:20,451 AND I WAS REALLY SURPRISED I GOT 522 00:20:20,454 --> 00:20:22,854 MY UNDERGRAD HERE, BUT WHAT USED 523 00:20:22,857 --> 00:20:25,857 TO BE THE NORMAL UNDERGRAD 524 00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:27,191 STUDENT ARE NOT THE NORMAL 525 00:20:27,194 --> 00:20:30,094 STUDENT. 526 00:20:30,097 --> 00:20:32,463 YOU HAVE MORE UNDERGRADS ---KIND 527 00:20:32,466 --> 00:20:34,766 OF REENVISIONS WHAT HIGHER 528 00:20:34,769 --> 00:20:36,234 EDUCATION NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE I 529 00:20:36,237 --> 00:20:37,135 THINK IS GOING TO BE KEY IN 530 00:20:37,138 --> 00:20:39,270 ORDER TO COMPETE. 531 00:20:39,273 --> 00:20:44,842 BUT IT'S A NECESSITY. 532 00:20:44,845 --> 00:20:46,144 ESPECIALLY FOR A SINGLE FAMILY. 533 00:20:46,147 --> 00:20:47,311 >> YOU JUST SAID IT'S A 534 00:20:47,314 --> 00:20:49,580 NECESSARY THEITY. 535 00:20:49,583 --> 00:20:52,450 SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY CHANGE 536 00:20:52,453 --> 00:20:55,219 YOUR WAY OF LIFE, PUSH FOR 537 00:20:55,222 --> 00:20:57,689 SPENDING IN OTHER PLACES, BUT 538 00:20:57,692 --> 00:21:00,391 WHY PUSH FOR THIS NEW CAREER? 539 00:21:00,394 --> 00:21:03,561 >> TRIED CUTTING MY SPENDING AND 540 00:21:03,564 --> 00:21:05,196 I TRIED DOING EVERYTHING ELSE. 541 00:21:05,199 --> 00:21:08,032 IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. 542 00:21:08,035 --> 00:21:10,001 YOU'RE LIVING SO FAR BELOW THE 543 00:21:10,004 --> 00:21:10,301 POVERTY LINE THAT YOU CAN'T 544 00:21:10,304 --> 00:21:12,270 LIVE. 545 00:21:12,273 --> 00:21:14,839 I WOULD HAVE HAD TO FORECLOSE ON 546 00:21:14,842 --> 00:21:20,044 MY HOUSE, I SOLD MY CAR, I DID 547 00:21:20,047 --> 00:21:23,548 ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I COULD 548 00:21:23,551 --> 00:21:24,582 DO TO MAKE THINGS WORK AND IT'S 549 00:21:24,585 --> 00:21:26,551 JUST NOT FEASIBLE. 550 00:21:26,554 --> 00:21:29,354 >> YOU'RE GOING TO FINISH YOUR 551 00:21:29,357 --> 00:21:30,755 PROGRAM OF STUDY SO YOU CAN HAVE 552 00:21:30,758 --> 00:21:31,622 THE CAREER THAT YOU DREAMED OF. 553 00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:35,526 >> YES, SO I CAN PROVIDE FOR MY 554 00:21:35,529 --> 00:21:38,796 FAMILY. 555 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:41,299 >> THAT I'M NOT WORKING MAYBE 556 00:21:41,302 --> 00:21:43,034 100 HOURS A WEEK AT TWO OR THREE 557 00:21:43,037 --> 00:21:43,334 SEPARATE JOBS AND NEVER SEE MY 558 00:21:43,337 --> 00:21:44,969 KIDS. 559 00:21:44,972 --> 00:21:48,072 SO I'M MAKING THE TRADEOFF NOW 560 00:21:48,075 --> 00:21:50,375 AND GIVING UP A LOT OF THINGS 561 00:21:50,378 --> 00:21:55,079 NOW SO THAT I CAN HAVE A MORE 562 00:21:55,082 --> 00:22:00,585 STABLE LIFE LATER. 563 00:22:00,588 --> 00:22:04,622 >> AND THE BUZZ NOW WITH MY 564 00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:07,859 COLLEAGUE CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, 565 00:22:07,862 --> 00:22:09,494 LOTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK. 566 00:22:09,497 --> 00:22:11,396 >> THE ARIZONA STUDENT 567 00:22:11,399 --> 00:22:13,464 ASSOCIATION IN 2013 FILED SUIT 568 00:22:13,467 --> 00:22:15,333 AGAINST THE BOARD OF REGENTS 569 00:22:15,336 --> 00:22:16,968 BECAUSE THE BOARD VOTED TO 570 00:22:16,971 --> 00:22:18,603 CHANGE THE WAY THE FEE THAT 571 00:22:18,606 --> 00:22:20,605 FUNDS THE ARIZONA STUDENT 572 00:22:20,608 --> 00:22:22,340 ASSOCIATION IS COLLECTIVE, AND 573 00:22:22,343 --> 00:22:24,509 THE STUDENT ASSOCIATION IS NOW 574 00:22:24,512 --> 00:22:26,978 ESSENTIALLY BROKE AS A RESULT. 575 00:22:26,981 --> 00:22:28,613 THE STUDENTS CLAIMED IT WAS 576 00:22:28,616 --> 00:22:30,982 RETALIATION BECAUSE THEY 577 00:22:30,985 --> 00:22:33,951 ACTIVELY CAMPAIGNED IN 2012 FOR 578 00:22:33,954 --> 00:22:34,786 THE EXTENSION OF THAT HALF CENT 579 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:36,988 SALES TAX. 580 00:22:36,991 --> 00:22:38,856 GOVERNOR BREWER WAS VERY MUCH 581 00:22:38,859 --> 00:22:40,458 AGAINST THE EXTENSION. 582 00:22:40,461 --> 00:22:43,094 THE GOVERNOR SITS AS A MEMBER OF 583 00:22:43,097 --> 00:22:44,495 THE BOARD OF REGENTS AND THEY 584 00:22:44,498 --> 00:22:46,097 SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE 585 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:47,932 OPPOSING THE GOVERNOR ACTIVELY 586 00:22:47,935 --> 00:22:49,634 ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, THE BOARD 587 00:22:49,637 --> 00:22:51,769 OF REGENTS RETAILATED. 588 00:22:51,772 --> 00:22:52,770 A LOWER COURT, A FEDERAL COURT 589 00:22:52,773 --> 00:22:55,006 THREW IT OUT. 590 00:22:55,009 --> 00:22:55,940 THIS IS NOT A FIRST AMENDMENT 591 00:22:55,943 --> 00:22:56,407 RETALIATION CASE AND THREW THE 592 00:22:56,410 --> 00:22:59,944 CASE OUT. 593 00:22:59,947 --> 00:23:01,346 THE STUDENTS APPEALED TO THE 594 00:23:01,349 --> 00:23:03,047 U.S. NINTH CIRCUIT AND THIS WEEK 595 00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:04,716 THEY HEARD THE ARGUMENT, I 596 00:23:04,719 --> 00:23:07,518 WATCHED THE ARGUMENTS AND TWO OF 597 00:23:07,521 --> 00:23:09,454 THE JUDGES SEEMED TO SAY THAT 598 00:23:09,457 --> 00:23:11,289 THEY BELIEVE THIS IS A 599 00:23:11,292 --> 00:23:13,257 RETALIATION CASE. 600 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:14,192 NOW JUST BECAUSE JUDGES PUSHED 601 00:23:14,195 --> 00:23:15,593 THEIR QUESTIONING THAT 602 00:23:15,596 --> 00:23:17,762 PARTICULAR QUESTION FROM THE 603 00:23:17,765 --> 00:23:19,497 BENCH IS NO GUARANTEE THAT 604 00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:20,131 THAT'S HOW THEIR RULING WILL 605 00:23:20,134 --> 00:23:22,000 COME DOWN. 606 00:23:22,003 --> 00:23:25,603 IF THEY RULE IN FAVOR OF THE 607 00:23:25,606 --> 00:23:26,471 STUDENTS, ALL IT MEANS IS IT 608 00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:27,138 GOES BACK TO THE LOWER COURT, 609 00:23:27,141 --> 00:23:36,481 FEDERAL COURT AND WE HAVE A 610 00:23:36,484 --> 00:23:38,116 TRIAL. 611 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,650 >> COULD IT MEAN MORE DOLLARS? 612 00:23:39,653 --> 00:23:44,689 >> THEY COULD GET MORE MONEY FOR 613 00:23:44,692 --> 00:23:46,858 THE ARIZONA STUDENT ASSOCIATION. 614 00:23:46,861 --> 00:23:47,792 IT WAS A $2 WHAT WAS CALLED 615 00:23:47,795 --> 00:23:50,962 NEGATIVE CHECK OFF. 616 00:23:50,965 --> 00:23:52,864 WHEN STUDENTS GOT THEIR TUITION 617 00:23:52,867 --> 00:23:59,037 BILLS, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY 618 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,407 THIS $2 TO THE STUDENT 619 00:24:02,410 --> 00:24:04,542 ASSOCIATION, THIS IS A LOBBYING 620 00:24:04,545 --> 00:24:06,878 GROUP FOR STUDENTS FOR STUDENTS 621 00:24:06,881 --> 00:24:08,246 AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 622 00:24:08,249 --> 00:24:08,946 >> MARIJUANA ALSO IN THE NEWS 623 00:24:08,949 --> 00:24:10,682 THIS WEEK. 624 00:24:10,685 --> 00:24:12,550 >> MARIJUANA, JUSTICE WEEK, WE 625 00:24:12,553 --> 00:24:14,485 HAD AN OPINION FROM THE ARIZONA 626 00:24:14,488 --> 00:24:16,087 SUPREME COURT, A UNANIMOUS 627 00:24:16,090 --> 00:24:18,256 DECISION REGARDING MEDICAL 628 00:24:18,259 --> 00:24:19,857 MARIJUANA AND DWI OR DUI. 629 00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:24,929 TWO PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED FOR 630 00:24:24,932 --> 00:24:26,831 DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE, AND 631 00:24:26,834 --> 00:24:29,500 THEY WERE MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARD 632 00:24:29,503 --> 00:24:31,636 HOLDER, WHICH MEANS LEGALLY THEY 633 00:24:31,639 --> 00:24:34,205 COULD HAVE MEDICAL MARIJUANA. 634 00:24:34,208 --> 00:24:40,078 THEY WERE ARRESTED FOR DUI, THEY 635 00:24:40,081 --> 00:24:41,446 TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE 636 00:24:41,449 --> 00:24:42,380 METABOLISM OF MARIJUANA IN THEIR 637 00:24:42,383 --> 00:24:44,916 BLOOD. 638 00:24:44,919 --> 00:24:48,920 THEY CHALLENGED THAT ARREST 639 00:24:48,923 --> 00:24:53,891 SAYING WE CAN LEGALLY HAVE THOSE 640 00:24:53,894 --> 00:25:03,468 METABOLITES IN OUR BLOOD BECAUSE 641 00:25:03,471 --> 00:25:06,137 WE ARE A CARD HOLDER. 642 00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:08,539 THOSE MARIJUANA METABOLITES STAY 643 00:25:08,542 --> 00:25:10,575 IN YOUR BLOOD FOR A LONG TIME. 644 00:25:10,578 --> 00:25:15,646 THEY SAID YOU COULD LEGALLY HAVE 645 00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:16,381 THEM IN YOUR BLOOD, BUT THEY 646 00:25:16,384 --> 00:25:18,449 DIDN'T OVERTURN THE CONVICTION. 647 00:25:18,452 --> 00:25:20,852 OF IF YOU ARE IMPAIRED AND 648 00:25:20,855 --> 00:25:24,122 YOU'RE ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA, YOU 649 00:25:24,125 --> 00:25:28,826 ARE IMPAIRED. 650 00:25:28,829 --> 00:25:30,762 WHAT IT ALLOWS LEGAL MEDICAL 651 00:25:30,765 --> 00:25:33,498 MARIJUANA TO DO, IS TO PROVE 652 00:25:33,501 --> 00:25:35,199 THAT YES THEY HAVE THE 653 00:25:35,202 --> 00:25:39,370 METABOLITES IN THEIR BLOOD BUT 654 00:25:39,373 --> 00:25:41,639 THEY WERE NOT IMPAIRED 655 00:25:41,642 --> 00:25:43,941 NECESSARILY, BUT THEY HAVE TO 656 00:25:43,944 --> 00:25:48,446 PROVE THAT IN COURT. 657 00:25:48,449 --> 00:25:49,847 >> CAN YOU DRIVE UNDER THE 658 00:25:49,850 --> 00:25:52,417 INFLUNS OF MARIJUANA? 659 00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:54,185 >> IF YOU ARE DRIVING UNDER THE 660 00:25:54,188 --> 00:25:57,855 INFLUENCE, IT'S ILLEGAL. 661 00:25:57,858 --> 00:26:00,658 YOU CAN NOT DRIVE IMPAIRED. 662 00:26:00,661 --> 00:26:02,126 IT'S ALL IN THE SAME CATEGORY. 663 00:26:02,129 --> 00:26:04,062 >> JOINING OTHER GOVERNORS 664 00:26:04,065 --> 00:26:06,964 ACROSS THE COUNTRY SAYING NO 665 00:26:06,967 --> 00:26:07,332 MORE REFUGEES IN THIS COUNTRY 666 00:26:07,335 --> 00:26:09,367 RIGHT NOW. 667 00:26:09,370 --> 00:26:10,568 WHERE IS THAT RIGHT NOW? 668 00:26:10,571 --> 00:26:12,904 >> EARLIER IN THE WEEK THE 669 00:26:12,907 --> 00:26:14,272 GOVERNOR SENT A LETTER TO THE 670 00:26:14,275 --> 00:26:17,241 WHITE HOUSE SAYING WE DON'T WANT 671 00:26:17,244 --> 00:26:19,944 ANYMORE REFUGEES IN ARIZONA, NOT 672 00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:21,612 SYRIAN, NOT AFGHANI, WHATEVER, 673 00:26:21,615 --> 00:26:24,549 HE SAID NO MORE REFUGEES. 674 00:26:24,552 --> 00:26:26,384 HE ENDED UP ON A CONFERENCE CALL 675 00:26:26,387 --> 00:26:27,518 WITH WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS 676 00:26:27,521 --> 00:26:29,520 TRYING TO EXPLAIN HIS SIDE AND 677 00:26:29,523 --> 00:26:30,888 THEY EXPLAINED THEIR SIDE AND 678 00:26:30,891 --> 00:26:34,158 THEIR SIDE WAS THERE IS A 679 00:26:34,161 --> 00:26:36,627 PROCESS FOR VETTING THEM AND 680 00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:38,296 WE'RE SENDING REFUGEES TO THE 681 00:26:38,299 --> 00:26:38,663 VARIOUS STATES AS WE ALWAYS 682 00:26:38,666 --> 00:26:40,031 HAVE. 683 00:26:40,034 --> 00:26:41,766 >> DOES HE HAVE LEGAL RIGHT TO 684 00:26:41,769 --> 00:26:42,667 DO THIS AS GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA? 685 00:26:42,670 --> 00:26:44,268 >> NOT REALLY. 686 00:26:44,271 --> 00:26:47,271 HE SAYS HE DOES. 687 00:26:47,274 --> 00:26:48,439 BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT 688 00:26:48,442 --> 00:26:56,814 THE HISTORY, VERY RECENT HISTORY 689 00:26:56,817 --> 00:26:58,116 OF COURT FACES, SD 1070. 690 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,018 THE U.S. SUPREME COURT WAS VERY 691 00:27:00,021 --> 00:27:01,152 CLEAR THAT IMMIGRATION IS THE 692 00:27:01,155 --> 00:27:02,286 PURVIEW OF THE FEDERAL 693 00:27:02,289 --> 00:27:03,087 GOVERNMENT NOT THE INDIVIDUAL 694 00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:06,724 STATES. 695 00:27:06,727 --> 00:27:07,658 THAT CAME OUT OF SD 107 0. 696 00:27:07,661 --> 00:27:09,060 THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS 697 00:27:09,063 --> 00:27:09,794 USING THAT OVER THE LATEST 698 00:27:09,797 --> 00:27:15,066 IMMIGRATION ARGUMENTS GOING TO 699 00:27:15,069 --> 00:27:17,268 THE SUPREME COURT. 700 00:27:17,271 --> 00:27:20,438 TODAY FRIDAY, HE SENT ANOTHER 701 00:27:20,441 --> 00:27:21,806 LETTER, WITH ADDITIONAL 702 00:27:21,809 --> 00:27:23,908 GOVERNORS, ALL REPUBLICANS, SENT 703 00:27:23,911 --> 00:27:26,110 A LETTER TO THE WHITE HOUSE, NOT 704 00:27:26,113 --> 00:27:29,881 ONLY ASKING FOR NO MORE REFUGEES 705 00:27:29,884 --> 00:27:30,248 BUT SUSPENDING ALL SYRIAN 706 00:27:30,251 --> 00:27:33,985 REFUGEES. 707 00:27:33,988 --> 00:27:35,520 >> THIS STORY GETTING A LOT OF 708 00:27:35,523 --> 00:27:37,588 ATTENTION, THE BORDER POLICE ON 709 00:27:37,591 --> 00:27:39,390 THE U.S.-MEXICO BORDER. 710 00:27:39,393 --> 00:27:41,025 WE'LL WATCH THAT AND SEE HOW 711 00:27:41,028 --> 00:27:42,527 THAT TRANSFORMS. 712 00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:45,730 >> THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. 713 00:27:45,733 --> 00:27:46,597 FOR ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC