WEBVTT 00:05.672 --> 00:08.840 align:start >> YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY. 00:08.843 --> 00:10.641 align:start A DISCUSSION IN TUCSON. 00:10.644 --> 00:15.413 align:start >> WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT 00:15.416 --> 00:16.581 align:start SEEMS TO BE ALMOST COMPLETELY 00:16.584 --> 00:17.015 align:start UNRESTRAINED BY LAW OR THE 00:17.018 --> 00:18.116 align:start CONSTITUTION. 00:18.119 --> 00:19.851 align:start >> STAYING AHEAD OF THE GAME 00:19.854 --> 00:21.552 align:start WHEN IT COMES TO CYBER CRIME. 00:21.555 --> 00:23.588 align:start >> INTHE STALLING CERTAIN PIECES 00:23.591 --> 00:25.023 align:start OF SOFTWARE ON YOUR PHONE BUT 00:25.026 --> 00:25.890 align:start THEY ARE REALLY MONITORING AND 00:25.893 --> 00:27.525 align:start COLLECTING DATA. 00:27.528 --> 00:27.825 align:start A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE 00:27.828 --> 00:30.094 align:start THAT. 00:30.097 --> 00:31.763 align:start >> COVERING THE STATE CAPITOL A 00:31.766 --> 00:35.299 align:start CHALLENGE FOR JOURNALISTS, THIS 00:40.507 --> 00:42.740 align:start >>> HELLO AND THANKS FOR JOINING 00:42.743 --> 00:45.009 align:start US. 00:45.012 --> 00:47.011 align:start A UNIQUE FORUM AT THE UNIVERSITY 00:47.014 --> 00:49.280 align:start OF ARIZONA, THE COLLEGE OF 00:49.283 --> 00:50.415 align:start SOCIAL AND BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES 00:50.418 --> 00:52.517 align:start HOSTED A CONVERSATION ON 00:52.520 --> 00:56.721 align:start PRIVACY, THE FEATURED GUEST, AN 00:56.724 --> 00:58.790 align:start AMERICAN CHARGED WITH ESPIONAGE 00:58.793 --> 01:00.324 align:start LIVING IN RUSSIA. 01:00.327 --> 01:02.093 align:start A RARE PANEL DISCUSSION AT 01:02.096 --> 01:02.794 align:start CENTENNIAL HALL ON THE U OF A 01:02.797 --> 01:05.196 align:start CAM PUGS. 01:05.199 --> 01:06.097 align:start ON STAGE FROM RUSSIA, EDWARD 01:06.100 --> 01:09.734 align:start SNOWED BE. 01:09.737 --> 01:10.435 align:start THE FORMER CONTRACTOR FOR THE 01:10.438 --> 01:11.202 align:start NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY WHO 01:11.205 --> 01:14.238 align:start LEAKED TOP SECRET INFORMATION 01:14.241 --> 01:15.573 align:start AND WAS CHARGED WITH ESPIONAGE. 01:15.576 --> 01:18.976 align:start DPLEN GREENWALD THE JOURNALIST 01:18.979 --> 01:20.812 align:start WHO PUBLISHED THE INFORMATION 01:20.815 --> 01:24.349 align:start AND SNOWDEN REFLECTED ON HIS 01:24.352 --> 01:29.020 align:start TIME AS A CONTRACTOR. 01:29.023 --> 01:35.660 align:start >> AWARENESS OF WHAT THE 01:35.663 --> 01:37.261 align:start GOVERNMENT -- I SAW THE PUBLIC 01:37.264 --> 01:38.763 align:start OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WERE 01:38.766 --> 01:39.797 align:start DIFFERENT FROM THE REALITY OF 01:39.800 --> 01:43.935 align:start WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 01:43.938 --> 01:45.370 align:start IN FACT, WE WERE OPERATING IN A 01:45.373 --> 01:45.870 align:start WAY THAT MANY ARGUED WAS 01:45.873 --> 01:47.071 align:start UNCONSTITUTIONAL. 01:47.074 --> 01:49.073 align:start THE COURTS HAVE SINCE CONFIRMED 01:49.076 --> 01:51.442 align:start THAT DECLARING THESE PROGRAMS 01:51.445 --> 01:52.777 align:start LIKELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND EVEN 01:52.780 --> 01:53.678 align:start CALLING THEM OR WELLIAN. 01:53.681 --> 01:55.346 align:start >> HE HAS BEEN CALLED EVERYTHING 01:55.349 --> 01:57.382 align:start FROM A HERO TO A TRAITOR. 01:57.385 --> 02:01.219 align:start >> WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT 02:01.222 --> 02:04.689 align:start SEEMS TO BE ALMOST COMPLETELY 02:04.692 --> 02:05.156 align:start UNRESTRAINED BY LAW, OR THE 02:05.159 --> 02:06.124 align:start CONSTITUTION. 02:06.127 --> 02:09.327 align:start WE HAD FORMER GOVERNMENT 02:09.330 --> 02:13.464 align:start OFFICIALS SAY THINGS LIKE WE DO 02:13.467 --> 02:13.898 align:start IT ILLEGAL, THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL 02:13.901 --> 02:16.834 align:start TAKES LONGER. 02:16.837 --> 02:17.235 align:start >> A CONVERSATION ON PRIVACY AND 02:17.238 --> 02:20.104 align:start INFORMATION. 02:20.107 --> 02:21.773 align:start >> I WAS WORKING IN THE LAB 02:21.776 --> 02:24.475 align:start WHERE THE EARLY STAGES OF THE 02:24.478 --> 02:27.545 align:start INTERNET WERE DEVELOPED, 02:27.548 --> 02:32.016 align:start PENTAGON FUNDED LABORATORY AT 02:32.019 --> 02:37.088 align:start M.I.T., AFTER THE LONG PERIOD OF 02:37.091 --> 02:39.691 align:start RISKY CREATIVE WORK AT TAXPAYER 02:39.694 --> 02:43.027 align:start EXPENSE, THE INTERNET WAS HANDED 02:43.030 --> 02:45.263 align:start OVER TO PRIVATE ENTERPRISE FOR 02:45.266 --> 02:46.664 align:start MARKETING AND PROFIT MAKING. 02:46.667 --> 02:48.833 align:start >> THE PROFESSOR AT THE 02:48.836 --> 02:50.335 align:start MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF 02:50.338 --> 02:52.537 align:start TECHNOLOGY ARGUES SURVEILLANCE 02:52.540 --> 02:52.904 align:start IS NOT EFFECTIVE AT STOPPING 02:52.907 --> 02:55.340 align:start TERRORISM. 02:55.343 --> 02:59.177 align:start >> INTERNET WAS INTENDED BY THE 02:59.180 --> 03:04.182 align:start EARLY DESIGNERS TO BE A FREE, 03:04.185 --> 03:05.783 align:start OPEN MEANS OF COMMUNICATION 03:05.786 --> 03:08.252 align:start WHICH WOULD BE ORIGINALLY IT WAS 03:08.255 --> 03:09.987 align:start INTENDED ACTUALLY FOR SCIENTISTS 03:09.990 --> 03:12.323 align:start TO INTERCHANGE REALLY, BUT THEN 03:12.326 --> 03:12.657 align:start MORE BROADLY FOR THE GENERAL 03:12.660 --> 03:16.327 align:start PUBLIC. 03:16.330 --> 03:17.195 align:start >> GREENWALD, A FORMER LAWYER 03:17.198 --> 03:17.562 align:start STANDS BY PUBLISHING THE 03:17.565 --> 03:18.963 align:start DOCUMENTS. 03:18.966 --> 03:21.833 align:start >> EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE IN THIS 03:21.836 --> 03:23.234 align:start MATTER AND EVERYTHING ELSE I TRY 03:23.237 --> 03:25.036 align:start AND DO IN MY JOURNALISM IS ABOUT 03:25.039 --> 03:26.904 align:start TRYING TO MAKE THINGS MORE 03:26.907 --> 03:28.072 align:start DIFFICULT FOR THOSE WHO WE WOULD 03:28.075 --> 03:30.808 align:start THE GREATEST POWER. 03:30.811 --> 03:33.211 align:start >> IT'S UNKNOWN IF SNOWDEN WILL 03:33.214 --> 03:35.213 align:start STEP FOOT ON U.S. SOIL AGAIN HE 03:35.216 --> 03:37.782 align:start HAS NO REGRETS. 03:37.785 --> 03:43.621 align:start >> HOW DO WE REACH THE POINT 03:43.624 --> 03:47.492 align:start WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL -- BECAUSE 03:47.495 --> 03:49.727 align:start OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT THE 03:49.730 --> 03:51.863 align:start INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN TO BE THE 03:51.866 --> 03:53.831 align:start LAST SAFEGUARD. 03:53.834 --> 03:54.966 align:start >> MORE NOW FROM GLENN 03:54.969 --> 03:56.601 align:start GREENWALD, A FORMER LAWYER 03:56.604 --> 03:58.236 align:start WORKING FOR THE GUARDIAN AT THE 03:58.239 --> 04:01.305 align:start TIME HE PUBLISHED THOUSANDS OF 04:01.308 --> 04:01.572 align:start TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS FROM THE 04:01.575 --> 04:03.875 align:start NSA. 04:03.878 --> 04:05.309 align:start >> OVERWHELMINGLY I FEEL 04:05.312 --> 04:08.513 align:start EXTREMELY POSITIVE ABOUT IT. 04:08.516 --> 04:11.516 align:start THERE HAVE BEEN COSTS AND RISKS 04:11.519 --> 04:12.784 align:start AND PRESSURES AND VARIOUS FORMS 04:12.787 --> 04:15.186 align:start OF ATTACK AND THE LIKE I WOULD 04:15.189 --> 04:17.789 align:start PUT IN THE NEGATIVE COLUMN BUT 04:17.792 --> 04:19.290 align:start IF YOU GO INTO JOURNALISM AS I 04:19.293 --> 04:21.926 align:start DID 10 YEARS AGO YOU DO SO IN 04:21.929 --> 04:25.029 align:start ORDER TO HAVE A STORY LIKE THIS, 04:25.032 --> 04:26.898 align:start ONE THAT TRIGGERS A GLOBAL 04:26.901 --> 04:28.866 align:start DEBATE AND DOZENS OF COUNTRIES 04:28.869 --> 04:31.302 align:start ON MULTIPLE CONTINENTS ABOUT A 04:31.305 --> 04:32.804 align:start VARIETY OF ISSUES INCLUDING THE 04:32.807 --> 04:34.906 align:start VALUE OF PRIVACY IN THE DIGITAL 04:34.909 --> 04:37.208 align:start AGE AND THE DANGERS OF 04:37.211 --> 04:39.277 align:start GOVERNMENT SECRECY AND THE ROLE 04:39.280 --> 04:41.713 align:start OF JOURNALISM IN DEMOCRACY, IT 04:41.716 --> 04:43.181 align:start HAS LED TO REFORMS OF MULTIPLE 04:43.184 --> 04:44.449 align:start KIND, SHIFTED THE LANDSCAPE IN 04:44.452 --> 04:46.317 align:start TERMS OF THE GOVERNMENT'S 04:46.320 --> 04:49.821 align:start ABILITY TO SPY ON PEOPLE OVER 04:49.824 --> 04:51.322 align:start THE INTERNET, AND SO I FEEL 04:51.325 --> 04:52.990 align:start EXTREMELY POSITIVE ABOUT THE 04:52.993 --> 04:54.225 align:start CHOICES THAT I MADE AND THE 04:54.228 --> 04:55.026 align:start JOURNALISM I HAVE DONE AND THE 04:55.029 --> 04:57.462 align:start EFFECT IT HAD. 04:57.465 --> 04:57.996 align:start >> DO YOU HAVE REGRETS HOW THIS 04:57.999 --> 04:58.563 align:start TURNED OUT? 04:58.566 --> 05:02.367 align:start >> NO. 05:02.370 --> 05:05.670 align:start IN FACT, IF YOU -- IT'S FUNNY 05:05.673 --> 05:07.271 align:start WHEN MY REPORTING PARTNER, WHO 05:07.274 --> 05:09.841 align:start FILMED A LOT OF WHAT TOOK PLACE 05:09.844 --> 05:11.676 align:start IN HONG KONG FOR THE FILM 05:11.679 --> 05:13.077 align:start CITIZEN 4, I WATCHED THE RAW 05:13.080 --> 05:14.846 align:start FOOTAGE BEFORE SHE WAS DONE 05:14.849 --> 05:16.547 align:start EDITING THE FILM IT REMINDED ME 05:16.550 --> 05:18.316 align:start WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS, 05:18.319 --> 05:20.651 align:start SNOWDEN AND I, IN HONG KONG 05:20.654 --> 05:22.387 align:start ABOUT WHAT WE HOPED TO GENERATE 05:22.390 --> 05:24.555 align:start THE KIND OF DEBATE WE HOPED TO 05:24.558 --> 05:27.258 align:start TRIGGER WITH THE REPORTING. 05:27.261 --> 05:29.994 align:start AND HIS BIG CONCERN AT THE TIME 05:29.997 --> 05:32.764 align:start WAS THAT WE WOULD REVEAL THIS, 05:32.767 --> 05:34.198 align:start HE WOULD UNRAVEL HIS LIFE AND 05:34.201 --> 05:36.901 align:start THE WORLD WOULD SHRUG AND IT 05:36.904 --> 05:38.703 align:start WOULD BE A ONE OR TWO-DAY STORY 05:38.706 --> 05:40.338 align:start AND I DON'T CARE AND MOVE ON. 05:40.341 --> 05:43.074 align:start AND THE FACT THAT THERE HAS BEEN 05:43.077 --> 05:45.376 align:start THIS YOU KNOW, TIDAL WAVE OF 05:45.379 --> 05:47.779 align:start INTEREST AROUND THE WORLD AND 05:47.782 --> 05:51.749 align:start ALL KINDS OF FALLOUT THAT TO 05:51.752 --> 05:53.885 align:start THIS DAY CONTINUES TO UNFOLD, 05:53.888 --> 05:54.719 align:start HAS BEEN REALLY GRATIFYING. 05:54.722 --> 05:55.987 align:start OF COURSE THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL 05:55.990 --> 05:58.222 align:start DECISIONS I MIGHT DO DIFFERENTLY 05:58.225 --> 06:00.091 align:start IF I HAD THEM TO DO OVER AGAIN 06:00.094 --> 06:01.859 align:start AS TO WHICH DOCUMENTS RELEASED 06:01.862 --> 06:02.460 align:start OR WHICH ORDER OR HOW THEY WERE 06:02.463 --> 06:04.529 align:start TALKED ABOUT. 06:04.532 --> 06:06.264 align:start SMALL DECISIONS I COULD 06:06.267 --> 06:09.701 align:start RE-EVALUATE BUT OVERALL I'M 06:09.704 --> 06:10.401 align:start REALLY -- I FEEL ABOUT TWA WE 06:10.404 --> 06:11.969 align:start DID THE JOURNALISM. 06:11.972 --> 06:14.138 align:start >> WHAT DID YOU WANT THE PUBLIC 06:14.141 --> 06:16.641 align:start TO GAIN, TO KNOW ABOUT THE NSA? 06:16.644 --> 06:17.909 align:start >> MORE THAN ANYTHING, I 06:17.912 --> 06:19.811 align:start REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I READ 06:19.814 --> 06:22.814 align:start THROUGH THE HUGE ARCHIVE THAT 06:22.817 --> 06:30.088 align:start SNOWDEN PROVIDED US, WHAT STRUCK 06:30.091 --> 06:31.622 align:start ME WAS NOT THE SUBVERSION OF 06:31.625 --> 06:33.524 align:start DEMOCRACY THOUGH THAT WAS QUITE 06:33.527 --> 06:35.693 align:start SEVERE AND VERY SIGNIFICANT. 06:35.696 --> 06:37.328 align:start INSTEAD IT WAS THE SUBVERSION OF 06:37.331 --> 06:39.897 align:start DEMOCRACY THAT THEY REVEALED BY 06:39.900 --> 06:41.532 align:start WHICH I MEAN THAT THESE 06:41.535 --> 06:42.567 align:start INCREDIBLY CONSEQUENTIAL 06:42.570 --> 06:43.968 align:start DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT THE 06:43.971 --> 06:45.003 align:start INTERNET WOULD BE AND THE EXTENT 06:45.006 --> 06:46.771 align:start TO WHICH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT 06:46.774 --> 06:48.272 align:start WOULD SPY ON IT AND THE WAY IN 06:48.275 --> 06:50.375 align:start WHICH IT WOULD COMPROMISE 06:50.378 --> 06:53.578 align:start PEOPLE'S PRIVACY, WAS DONE 06:53.581 --> 06:55.113 align:start COMPLETELY IN THE DARK WITH NO 06:55.116 --> 06:57.348 align:start PUBLIC DEBATE AND NO ROLE OF ANY 06:57.351 --> 06:58.516 align:start KIND ON THE PART OF THE 06:58.519 --> 07:00.852 align:start CITIZENRY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT 07:00.855 --> 07:04.822 align:start DECISION MAKING PROCESS WHICH TO 07:04.825 --> 07:06.691 align:start ME SEEMED TO BE THE ANTITHESIS. 07:06.694 --> 07:07.859 align:start I FELT IT WAS MY ROLE NOT TO 07:07.862 --> 07:09.594 align:start DICTATE TO PEOPLE HOW THEY 07:09.597 --> 07:11.763 align:start SHOULD THINK ABOUT THESE DEBATES 07:11.766 --> 07:14.132 align:start OR TO TRY AND FORCE OUTCOMES 07:14.135 --> 07:15.466 align:start THAT WERE IN LINE WITH MY 07:15.469 --> 07:16.634 align:start PREFERENCES, BUT INSTEAD TO 07:16.637 --> 07:18.036 align:start SHINE A LIGHT ON WHAT THE 07:18.039 --> 07:20.938 align:start GOVERNMENT HAD DONE IN THE DARK 07:20.941 --> 07:22.240 align:start SO THAT PEOPLE COULD BE INFORMED 07:22.243 --> 07:23.274 align:start ABOUT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS 07:23.277 --> 07:24.542 align:start DOING, THEY COULD BECOME AWARE 07:24.545 --> 07:26.678 align:start OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS 07:26.681 --> 07:28.546 align:start TRYING TO HIDE, SO THAT A 07:28.549 --> 07:28.946 align:start REASONED INFORMED DEBATE COULD 07:28.949 --> 07:30.348 align:start TAKE PLACE. 07:30.351 --> 07:33.384 align:start >> GIVEN OUR STATE OF TECHNOLOGY 07:33.387 --> 07:34.619 align:start AND THE INTERNET, ARE WE SAFE, 07:34.622 --> 07:34.986 align:start TO DO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO PRIVACY 07:34.989 --> 07:36.521 align:start ANY MORE? 07:36.524 --> 07:37.689 align:start >> YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO PRIVACY 07:37.692 --> 07:39.524 align:start FOR CERTAIN. 07:39.527 --> 07:39.824 align:start THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES 07:39.827 --> 07:41.159 align:start THAT. 07:41.162 --> 07:43.795 align:start COURTS THAT HAVE EVALUATE WHAT 07:43.798 --> 07:45.997 align:start HAD THE NSA IS DOING IN LIGHT OF 07:46.000 --> 07:47.298 align:start THESE REVELATIONS HAVE CONCLUDED 07:47.301 --> 07:49.801 align:start REPEATEDLY THAT IT VIOLATES THE 07:49.804 --> 07:51.602 align:start LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION BASED 07:51.605 --> 07:53.604 align:start ON PRIVACY RIGHTS OF THE FOURTH 07:53.607 --> 07:55.740 align:start AMENDMENT AND OTHER COMPONENTS 07:55.743 --> 07:56.974 align:start OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS GUARANTEE. 07:56.977 --> 07:58.409 align:start THE QUESTION BECOMES DO YOU 07:58.412 --> 08:00.244 align:start REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO 08:00.247 --> 08:01.045 align:start MAINTAIN PRIVACY ON THE 08:01.048 --> 08:02.380 align:start INTERNET? 08:02.383 --> 08:03.648 align:start PRIOR TO THIS SNOWDEN REPORTING 08:03.651 --> 08:06.351 align:start THE ANSWER WAS DEFINITELY NOT. 08:06.354 --> 08:08.853 align:start THE NSA AND ITS PARTNERS IN THE 08:08.856 --> 08:10.154 align:start UK, CANADA AND NEW ZEALAND AND 08:10.157 --> 08:12.957 align:start AUSTRALIA DEVISED A SYSTEM THAT 08:12.960 --> 08:14.792 align:start WAS THE ESSENTIALLY UBIQUITOUS. 08:14.795 --> 08:16.627 align:start BECAUSE THEY DID IT IN SECRET 08:16.630 --> 08:18.830 align:start THERE WERE NO DEFENSES SO EVERY 08:18.833 --> 08:20.064 align:start E-MAIL YOU SENT, EVERY CHAT, 08:20.067 --> 08:22.033 align:start EVERY SEARCH YOU DID ON THE 08:22.036 --> 08:23.234 align:start INTERNET WAS SUSCEPTIBLE TO 08:23.237 --> 08:26.904 align:start BEING COLLECTED AND STORED AND 08:26.907 --> 08:27.271 align:start IF THE NSA WANTED, MONITORED AND 08:27.274 --> 08:28.439 align:start ANALYZED. 08:28.442 --> 08:29.741 align:start MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT'S WHAT 08:29.744 --> 08:31.542 align:start HAS CHANGED IN THE WAKE OF THE 08:31.545 --> 08:33.077 align:start REPORTING IS THAT NOW BECAUSE 08:33.080 --> 08:34.545 align:start PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE EXTENT TO 08:34.548 --> 08:36.047 align:start WHICH PRIVACY HAS BEEN 08:36.050 --> 08:38.049 align:start COMPROMISE THEY HAD CAN AND DO 08:38.052 --> 08:40.618 align:start USE THEIR OWN ENCRYPTION THAT 08:40.621 --> 08:43.354 align:start BUILDS A MATHEMATICAL 08:43.357 --> 08:45.123 align:start IMPENETRABLE WALL AROUND THEIR 08:45.126 --> 08:47.658 align:start COMMUNICATIONS ON THE INTERNET. 08:47.661 --> 08:49.293 align:start MORE SIGNIFICANT, COMPANIES LIKE 08:49.296 --> 08:50.962 align:start APPLE AND GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK 08:50.965 --> 08:51.896 align:start ARE FEELING A HUGE AMOUNT OF 08:51.899 --> 08:52.997 align:start PRESSURE TO DEMONSTRATE 08:53.000 --> 08:55.667 align:start COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING THE 08:55.670 --> 08:56.968 align:start PRIVACY OF THEIR USERS AS 08:56.971 --> 08:58.202 align:start OPPOSED TO COOPERATING WITH THE 08:58.205 --> 08:59.971 align:start NSA AND YOU SEE THAT IN THE 08:59.974 --> 09:02.707 align:start FIGHT BETWEEN THE FBI AND APPLE 09:02.710 --> 09:04.108 align:start OVER APPLE'S EMBEDDING OF 09:04.111 --> 09:06.911 align:start ENCRYPTION PRODUCTS IN iPHONES 09:06.914 --> 09:09.147 align:start AND THAT REALLY IS A BYPRODUCT 09:09.150 --> 09:11.049 align:start OF THIS INCREASED DEMAND ON THE 09:11.052 --> 09:12.116 align:start PART OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT 09:12.119 --> 09:15.153 align:start PRIVACY BE PROTECTED AND THAT'S 09:15.156 --> 09:17.188 align:start THE BATTLE NOW IS CAN 09:17.191 --> 09:18.322 align:start TECHNOLOGIES BE DEVELOPED FAST 09:18.325 --> 09:20.658 align:start ENOUGH THAT ALLOWS YOU PRIVACY 09:20.661 --> 09:21.826 align:start ON THE INTERNET, WHILE THE 09:21.829 --> 09:22.894 align:start GOVERNMENT NOT JUST THE U.S. 09:22.897 --> 09:24.896 align:start GOVERNMENT BUT AROUND THE WORLD 09:24.899 --> 09:25.797 align:start ARE SPENDING BILLIONS TRYING TO 09:25.800 --> 09:26.097 align:start FIGURE OUT HOW TO CRACK THROUGH 09:26.100 --> 09:28.266 align:start THAT. 09:28.269 --> 09:32.403 align:start >> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CALLED 09:32.406 --> 09:33.137 align:start YOU AND SNOWDEN A TRAITOR, 09:33.140 --> 09:34.072 align:start BETRAYING YOUR GOVERNMENT, EVERY 09:34.075 --> 09:34.806 align:start NAME IN THE BOOK. 09:34.809 --> 09:35.340 align:start DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT BEFORE 09:35.343 --> 09:36.174 align:start YOU DID THIS? 09:36.177 --> 09:39.877 align:start >> SURE. 09:39.880 --> 09:41.612 align:start MY CHILDHOOD HERO WAS DANIEL 09:41.615 --> 09:43.047 align:start ALSBERG I HAVE NOW HAD THE 09:43.050 --> 09:44.449 align:start OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW 09:44.452 --> 09:45.983 align:start REALLY WELL AND BECOME FRIENDS 09:45.986 --> 09:49.320 align:start WITH AND COLLEAGUES WITH ON AN 09:49.323 --> 09:50.922 align:start ORGANIZATION WE FOUNDED TO 09:50.925 --> 09:52.423 align:start DEFEND THE FREE PRESS. 09:52.426 --> 09:55.360 align:start I KNOW FROM READING HISTORY 09:55.363 --> 09:57.695 align:start BOOKS THAT WHEN DANIEL ELLSBERG 09:57.698 --> 09:58.596 align:start LEAKED THE PENTAGON PAPERS TENS 09:58.599 --> 10:00.398 align:start OF THOUSANDS OF TOP SECRET 10:00.401 --> 10:01.599 align:start DOCUMENTS SHOWING THAT THE U.S. 10:01.602 --> 10:03.134 align:start GOVERNMENT WAS LYING TO THE 10:03.137 --> 10:06.170 align:start AMERICAN POPULATION ABOUT THE 10:06.173 --> 10:08.072 align:start VIETNAM WAR, THAT HE WAS CALLED 10:08.075 --> 10:10.041 align:start A TRAIT E GUILTY OF TREASON, 10:10.044 --> 10:10.341 align:start BEING AN AGENT OF THE SOVIET 10:10.344 --> 10:12.777 align:start UNION. 10:12.780 --> 10:15.213 align:start HE WAS INDICTED AND CHARGED AND 10:15.216 --> 10:18.850 align:start TRIED BUT ULTIMATELY ACQUITTED 10:18.853 --> 10:21.686 align:start AND 30, 40 YEARS LATER VIRTUALLY 10:21.689 --> 10:24.822 align:start EVERYBODY VIEWS HIM AS A HERO. 10:24.825 --> 10:27.425 align:start SOMEBODY WHO ENGAGED IN NOBLE 10:27.428 --> 10:27.792 align:start BEHAVIOR TO INFORM PEOPLE ON THE 10:27.795 --> 10:29.827 align:start DEMOCRACY. 10:29.830 --> 10:31.062 align:start >> AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA 10:31.065 --> 10:32.463 align:start IN THE ELLER COLLEGE OF 10:32.466 --> 10:34.432 align:start MANAGEMENT THERE IS AN 10:34.435 --> 10:37.735 align:start ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE LAB, I'M 10:37.738 --> 10:40.071 align:start JOINED BY THE DIRECTOR DR. 10:40.074 --> 10:41.606 align:start HSINCHUN CHEN AND SAGAR SAMTANI. 10:41.609 --> 10:43.775 align:start FIRST LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS 10:43.778 --> 10:44.075 align:start ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE LAB, DR. 10:44.078 --> 10:47.412 align:start CHEN. 10:47.415 --> 10:58.456 align:start HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS? 10:58.459 --> 10:59.057 align:start >> MY ADVISER, HE CAME FROM THE 10:59.060 --> 11:03.328 align:start CARNEGIE LAB, DR. HERBERT SIMON. 11:03.331 --> 11:06.364 align:start CARNEGIE LAB, DR. HERBERT SIMON. 11:06.367 --> 11:11.035 align:start EVERYTHING WITH THE LAB CAME IN 11:11.038 --> 11:12.637 align:start 1989, THE LAB HAS BEEN BRANDED 11:12.640 --> 11:16.607 align:start ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE LAB. 11:16.610 --> 11:16.941 align:start I THINK THE ONLY ONE IN THE 11:16.944 --> 11:24.782 align:start COLLEGE. 11:24.785 --> 11:26.317 align:start >> THESE DAYS AI, IN THE SIMPLE 11:26.320 --> 11:28.453 align:start FORM YOU ARE TRYING TO TEACH 11:28.456 --> 11:31.456 align:start COMPUTER TO DO THINGS THAT HUMAN 11:31.459 --> 11:35.026 align:start ARE GOOD AT LIKE PLAYING CHESS 11:35.029 --> 11:38.730 align:start AND SONGS, IT REQUIRE HUMAN 11:38.733 --> 11:42.900 align:start INTELLIGENCE AND TEACHING YOUR 11:42.903 --> 11:47.038 align:start COMPUTER TO EMULATE THAT. 11:47.041 --> 11:50.108 align:start WE CALL DATA MINING, REQUIRE A 11:50.111 --> 11:51.409 align:start LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT YOU 11:51.412 --> 11:54.812 align:start NEED IN GREATER. 11:54.815 --> 11:55.613 align:start >> PART OF THAT IS THE AZ SECURE 11:55.616 --> 11:57.415 align:start PROGRAM. 11:57.418 --> 11:58.683 align:start YOU ARE A PH.D. STUDENT. 11:58.686 --> 12:01.119 align:start WHAT IS IT THAT INTERESTED YOU? 12:01.122 --> 12:03.121 align:start >> THE EMPHASIS ON CYBER 12:03.124 --> 12:04.889 align:start SECURITY AND GROWING EMPHASIS IN 12:04.892 --> 12:07.625 align:start SOCIETY HOW PEOPLE NEED TO BE 12:07.628 --> 12:08.860 align:start MORE AWARE OF THEIR CYBER 12:08.863 --> 12:10.795 align:start SECURITY CONCERNS. 12:10.798 --> 12:13.231 align:start AND ALSO THE APPROACHES THAT DR. 12:13.234 --> 12:14.632 align:start CHEN IS TAKING IN THE ARTIFICIAL 12:14.635 --> 12:16.067 align:start INTELLIGENCE LAB AS FAR AS USING 12:16.070 --> 12:18.403 align:start ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE 12:18.406 --> 12:20.171 align:start APPROACHES IN CYBER SECURITY 12:20.174 --> 12:21.506 align:start CONTEXT, SOMETHING THAT IS TRULY 12:21.509 --> 12:23.141 align:start UNIQUE, NOT ONLY THAT BUT ALSO 12:23.144 --> 12:25.943 align:start LOOKING AT SPECIFIC TYPES OF 12:25.946 --> 12:26.844 align:start DATA THAT OTHER SECURITY 12:26.847 --> 12:27.912 align:start RESEARCHERS AREN'T LOOKING AT 12:27.915 --> 12:30.581 align:start ALL THAT MUCH. 12:30.584 --> 12:31.582 align:start >> SO YOU'RE TRYING TO OUTSMART 12:31.585 --> 12:32.950 align:start THE HACKERS? 12:32.953 --> 12:36.554 align:start >> YEAH. 12:36.557 --> 12:40.658 align:start I THINK WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL DO 12:40.661 --> 12:41.426 align:start SOMETHING GOOD UNDERSTANDING THE 12:41.429 --> 12:43.361 align:start INTENT, MOTIVATION. 12:43.364 --> 12:45.797 align:start IN THE PAST IN SECURITY SPACE 12:45.800 --> 12:49.200 align:start OVER THE PAST ALMOST 10 YEARS 12:49.203 --> 12:49.801 align:start HAS BEEN VERY REACTIVE. 12:49.804 --> 12:52.670 align:start PROTECTING YOURSELF. 12:52.673 --> 12:54.238 align:start YOU TRY TO BLOCK THE BULLET THAT 12:54.241 --> 12:55.473 align:start IS SHOOTING AT YOU. 12:55.476 --> 12:57.442 align:start IN OUR RESEARCH WE TRY TO 12:57.445 --> 12:59.243 align:start UNDERSTAND THE SHOOTERS BEHIND 12:59.246 --> 13:01.012 align:start THE BULLET, AND THE HACKERS ARE 13:01.015 --> 13:04.549 align:start THE PEOPLE WHO CREATE A BULLET, 13:04.552 --> 13:08.353 align:start A WEAPON SHOOT AT YOU. 13:08.356 --> 13:10.221 align:start SO THIS PROGRAM, SCHOLARSHIP AND 13:10.224 --> 13:11.422 align:start ANOTHER RELATED PROGRAM CALLED 13:11.425 --> 13:13.891 align:start HACKER WEB WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND 13:13.894 --> 13:16.361 align:start THE WEB OF HACKERS. 13:16.364 --> 13:18.963 align:start WHERE THEY RESIDE, WHAT DO THEY 13:18.966 --> 13:19.797 align:start CREATE, WHAT KIND OF MALWEAR DO 13:19.800 --> 13:22.066 align:start THEY CREATE. 13:22.069 --> 13:25.103 align:start WHAT DATA DO THEY STEAL FROM YOU 13:25.106 --> 13:25.470 align:start AND SO IT'S A VERY EXCITING 13:25.473 --> 13:27.171 align:start PROGRAM. 13:27.174 --> 13:27.805 align:start >> SAGAR, WHAT CAN THEY TAKE 13:27.808 --> 13:30.008 align:start FROM US? 13:30.011 --> 13:31.075 align:start >> THEY CAN TAKE A LOT OF 13:31.078 --> 13:32.677 align:start PERSONAL RELATED INFORMATION, SO 13:32.680 --> 13:35.546 align:start A LOT OF OUR RESEARCH WHAT WE 13:35.549 --> 13:36.247 align:start FIND IS THAT A LOT OF THE SOCIAL 13:36.250 --> 13:37.482 align:start SECURITY NUMBERS, PERSONAL 13:37.485 --> 13:40.485 align:start IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS ARE FOUND 13:40.488 --> 13:42.120 align:start IN THESE HACKER FORUMS OR 13:42.123 --> 13:44.022 align:start COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY TRADE AND 13:44.025 --> 13:44.322 align:start SELL THAT INFORMATION WITH EACH 13:44.325 --> 13:45.656 align:start OTHER. 13:45.659 --> 13:47.091 align:start THAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS AFTER 13:47.094 --> 13:48.192 align:start THEY BREACHED OR ATTACKED US. 13:48.195 --> 13:50.094 align:start >> IS MOST OF THAT HAPPENING 13:50.097 --> 13:51.229 align:start THROUGH OUR CELL PHONES OR 13:51.232 --> 13:53.865 align:start COMPUTERS OR WHERE? 13:53.868 --> 13:55.800 align:start >> I THINK DEFINITELY THESE DAYS 13:55.803 --> 13:57.935 align:start THE DEVICES CREATE DIFFERENT 13:57.938 --> 13:58.236 align:start AVENUE FOR THEM TO STEAL YOUR 13:58.239 --> 14:01.472 align:start DATA. 14:01.475 --> 14:04.876 align:start BUT EVEN WHEN YOU GO TO ATM 14:04.879 --> 14:07.779 align:start MACHINE, WHEN YOU GO TO TARGET, 14:07.782 --> 14:09.881 align:start SWIPE YOUR CREDIT CARD, THERE IS 14:09.884 --> 14:12.283 align:start MALWARE VIRUSES THAT EMBEDDED 14:12.286 --> 14:13.518 align:start AND COLLECTING NOT 10, 20, 14:13.521 --> 14:15.720 align:start RECORDS, THEY ARE COLLECTING 14:15.723 --> 14:18.022 align:start HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF RECORDS 14:18.025 --> 14:19.724 align:start PER DAY FROM MERCHANTS, FROM 14:19.727 --> 14:20.024 align:start YOUR CELL PHONE AND ONLINE 14:20.027 --> 14:21.225 align:start SHOPS. 14:21.228 --> 14:23.961 align:start WHEN THERE IS A DATA BREACH THIS 14:23.964 --> 14:24.562 align:start IS TYPICALLY NOT IN ORDER OF 14:24.565 --> 14:27.565 align:start THOUSANDS. 14:27.568 --> 14:28.433 align:start IT'S TENS OF MILLIONS OF 14:28.436 --> 14:30.201 align:start RECORDS. 14:30.204 --> 14:32.370 align:start AND THIS HAS BEEN THE DAILY 14:32.373 --> 14:34.439 align:start EVENT OVER THE PAST 12 YEARS. 14:34.442 --> 14:34.739 align:start IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP ANY DAY 14:34.742 --> 14:35.973 align:start SOON. 14:35.976 --> 14:37.108 align:start >> THE PROGRAM IS REALLY TRYING 14:37.111 --> 14:37.975 align:start TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE 14:37.978 --> 14:39.210 align:start GETTING THIS INFORMATION, HOW 14:39.213 --> 14:40.778 align:start THEY ARE GETTING IT AND WHAT 14:40.781 --> 14:41.245 align:start THEY INTEND TO DO WITH IT, IS 14:41.248 --> 14:42.980 align:start THAT CORRECT? 14:42.983 --> 14:44.716 align:start >> TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE 14:44.719 --> 14:46.050 align:start ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM OF THE EXACT 14:46.053 --> 14:47.218 align:start PEOPLE BEHIND IT, WHAT THEIR 14:47.221 --> 14:49.620 align:start MOTIVATIONS ARE AND WHAT THEIR 14:49.623 --> 14:49.987 align:start TOOLS ARE, WHAT THEY ARE USING, 14:49.990 --> 14:52.924 align:start ET CETERA. 14:52.927 --> 14:55.326 align:start >> SO, THE PROGRAM TEACHES 14:55.329 --> 14:56.494 align:start STUDENTS LIKE SAGART PROGRAM IS 14:56.497 --> 14:58.563 align:start FUNDED BY A GRANT. 14:58.566 --> 15:02.166 align:start >> THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN FUNDED 15:02.169 --> 15:03.001 align:start BY TWO OR THREE NATIONAL SCIENCE 15:03.004 --> 15:05.937 align:start FOUNDATION GRANT. 15:05.940 --> 15:07.872 align:start AND THEY ARE ONE IN SCHOLARSHIP 15:07.875 --> 15:10.508 align:start THAT HE WOULD GRADUATE AND 15:10.511 --> 15:12.944 align:start BECOME A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE, 15:12.947 --> 15:16.347 align:start BUT DURING THE TRAINING THERE 15:16.350 --> 15:18.416 align:start WILL BE LEARNING, AT THE SAME 15:18.419 --> 15:21.486 align:start TIME LEARNING A LOT OF CUTTING 15:21.489 --> 15:23.788 align:start EDGE TOOLS THAT ALLOW THEM TO BE 15:23.791 --> 15:24.122 align:start ONE TO 10 STEP AHEAD OF THE 15:24.125 --> 15:27.291 align:start HACKERS. 15:27.294 --> 15:28.660 align:start WE COLLECT DATA, WE DO LIN 15:28.663 --> 15:30.128 align:start QUISTIES ANALYSIS. 15:30.131 --> 15:32.930 align:start RUSSIAN SHARING INFORMATION 15:32.933 --> 15:34.365 align:start ABOUT STOLEN CREDIT CARDS, ABOUT 15:34.368 --> 15:35.800 align:start MALWEAR AND OUR PROGRAM LOOKING 15:35.803 --> 15:39.704 align:start AT THE CHINESE MOBILE PAYMENT, 15:39.707 --> 15:41.072 align:start AGAIN A LOT OF -- NOT JUST 15:41.075 --> 15:43.808 align:start DEALING ENGLISH, DEALING WITH 15:43.811 --> 15:45.376 align:start MANY LANGUAGES, RUSSIAN, CHINESE 15:45.379 --> 15:50.448 align:start AND ARABIC AND SO ON. 15:50.451 --> 15:53.384 align:start AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE 15:53.387 --> 15:54.218 align:start KIND OF MO DES OPENER RANDA OF 15:54.221 --> 15:57.855 align:start THE GROUP. 15:57.858 --> 15:59.424 align:start WORKING AS A GROUP IN DIFFERENT 15:59.427 --> 16:01.793 align:start SPECIALTY AREAS, FOR THE 16:01.796 --> 16:07.732 align:start RUSSIANS TO THE MOBILE OR CYBER 16:07.735 --> 16:08.666 align:start WAR FAIR FOR THE CHINESE FOR 16:08.669 --> 16:13.037 align:start TURKISH GROUPS. 16:13.040 --> 16:16.541 align:start IT'S DIVIDED, VERY INTERNATIONAL 16:16.544 --> 16:19.243 align:start BUT ALSO VERY TIGHT GROUP. 16:19.246 --> 16:21.079 align:start >> WHAT DRIVES THESE HACKERS? 16:21.082 --> 16:22.613 align:start WHAT IS THEIR MOTIVATION? 16:22.616 --> 16:24.282 align:start >> DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF GROUP 16:24.285 --> 16:25.717 align:start YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 16:25.720 --> 16:29.053 align:start SO, DR. CHEN MENTIONED A FEW OF 16:29.056 --> 16:31.222 align:start THE GROUPS, THE HACKTIVISTS 16:31.225 --> 16:32.490 align:start MOTIVATED BY ACTIVIST CAMPAIGNS, 16:32.493 --> 16:33.524 align:start THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 16:33.527 --> 16:36.294 align:start SOME FOR FINANCIAL GAIN, SOME OF 16:36.297 --> 16:38.463 align:start THEM DO IT FOR CYBER WAR FAIR. 16:38.466 --> 16:40.098 align:start SO IT DEPENDS ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC 16:40.101 --> 16:41.199 align:start THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT 16:41.202 --> 16:43.001 align:start THEIR MOTIVATIONS ARE. 16:43.004 --> 16:45.603 align:start >> AND DR. CHEN MENTIONED THAT 16:45.606 --> 16:47.071 align:start YOU WILL EVENTUALLY WORK FOR THE 16:47.074 --> 16:48.473 align:start GOVERNMENT OR A SECURITY AGENCY? 16:48.476 --> 16:51.609 align:start THAT'S THE GOAL TO GET THESE 16:51.612 --> 16:53.778 align:start STUDENTS JOBS? 16:53.781 --> 16:55.913 align:start >> THE PROGRAM WE HAVE GRADUATED 16:55.916 --> 16:57.682 align:start FOUR STUDENTS, WE HAVE 13 16:57.685 --> 17:01.019 align:start RESIDENT IN THE PROGRAM NOW. 17:01.022 --> 17:03.287 align:start WE HAVE FUNDING FOR ABOUT $4.5 17:03.290 --> 17:04.689 align:start MILLION TO TRAIN 40 STUDENTS. 17:04.692 --> 17:09.327 align:start THEY WILL BE SERVING FOR MOST OF 17:09.330 --> 17:11.863 align:start THEM FOR THE AGENCIES IN FEDERAL 17:11.866 --> 17:12.330 align:start GOVERNMENT PROTECTING THE 17:12.333 --> 17:13.464 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE. 17:13.467 --> 17:14.899 align:start AFTER THEY FINISH SERVING FOR 17:14.902 --> 17:16.334 align:start THE GOVERNMENT FOR THE 17:16.337 --> 17:20.038 align:start EQUIVALENT NUMBER OF YEARS IN 17:20.041 --> 17:23.541 align:start THE SCHOLARSHIP FUNDING, THEN 17:23.544 --> 17:25.910 align:start THEY CAN GO THE INDUSTRY, THEY 17:25.913 --> 17:26.444 align:start CAN GO TO GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, AND 17:26.447 --> 17:27.745 align:start COMPANIES AS WELL. 17:27.748 --> 17:29.414 align:start >> IS THAT THE GOAL FOR YOU? 17:29.417 --> 17:29.981 align:start THIS IS WHAT YOU HOPE TO DO? 17:29.984 --> 17:32.116 align:start >> RIGHT. 17:32.119 --> 17:33.518 align:start I MEAN, ONE OF THE MOTIVATING 17:33.521 --> 17:35.119 align:start FACTORS FOR ME TO GET IN THE 17:35.122 --> 17:36.721 align:start PROGRAM WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO 17:36.724 --> 17:37.889 align:start SERVE THE COUNTRY IN A CYBER 17:37.892 --> 17:39.791 align:start SECURITY POSITION. 17:39.794 --> 17:41.426 align:start AND YOU KNOW, ACADEMIA IS ONE 17:41.429 --> 17:43.328 align:start WAY TO GO ABOUT DOING THIS. 17:43.331 --> 17:45.196 align:start SO IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO THE 17:45.199 --> 17:46.864 align:start GOVERNMENT SECTOR BUT ALSO 17:46.867 --> 17:48.399 align:start BECOMING A PROFESSOR IN CYBER 17:48.402 --> 17:50.134 align:start SECURITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 17:50.137 --> 17:52.270 align:start MY TRAINING AS FAR AS THE PH.D. 17:52.273 --> 17:53.471 align:start PROGRAM IS TRAINING MORE TOWARD 17:53.474 --> 17:55.139 align:start ACADEMIA AND BECOMING A 17:55.142 --> 17:58.376 align:start PROFESSOR BUT I CAN USE THE 17:58.379 --> 18:01.512 align:start SKILLS I USED FROM THE PROGRAM 18:01.515 --> 18:01.879 align:start TO MAKE A NOVEL CONTRIBUTION IN 18:01.882 --> 18:03.381 align:start ACADEMIA. 18:03.384 --> 18:03.748 align:start >> HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE 18:03.751 --> 18:04.682 align:start ENROLLED? 18:04.685 --> 18:05.983 align:start YOU PROBABLY HAVE STUDENTS 18:05.986 --> 18:08.953 align:start COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY 18:08.956 --> 18:11.022 align:start WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE. 18:11.025 --> 18:12.423 align:start >> FOR THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE 18:12.426 --> 18:15.526 align:start U.S. CITIZEN. 18:15.529 --> 18:15.793 align:start OR RESIDENTS, GREEN CARD HOLDER 18:15.796 --> 18:16.961 align:start SO. 18:16.964 --> 18:19.364 align:start WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM 18:19.367 --> 18:21.499 align:start LOCAL ARIZONA STUDENTS BUT ALSO 18:21.502 --> 18:23.234 align:start FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 18:23.237 --> 18:24.535 align:start BUT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS WE 18:24.538 --> 18:26.537 align:start HAVE BEEN VERY CAREFUL IN 18:26.540 --> 18:29.507 align:start SELECTING OUR STUDENTS. 18:29.510 --> 18:32.877 align:start THE GOVERNMENT HAS A VERY 18:32.880 --> 18:33.244 align:start STRINGENT ACCEPTANCE AND SUCCESS 18:33.247 --> 18:36.414 align:start RATE. 18:36.417 --> 18:39.250 align:start THE SUCCESS RATE IS 94%. 18:39.253 --> 18:40.218 align:start WHICH MEANS 100 STUDENT YOU ONLY 18:40.221 --> 18:42.353 align:start LOSE FIVE. 18:42.356 --> 18:42.887 align:start SO THE SUCCESS RATE IS VERY 18:42.890 --> 18:45.456 align:start HIGH. 18:45.459 --> 18:48.860 align:start SELECTIVE. 18:48.863 --> 18:50.395 align:start THE PROGRAM ALSO -- THIS IS 18:50.398 --> 18:51.529 align:start CYBER CULT. 18:51.532 --> 18:53.631 align:start IT HAS BEEN CALLED THE WEST 18:53.634 --> 18:53.998 align:start POINT FOR CYBER SECURITY 18:54.001 --> 18:55.366 align:start TRAINING. 18:55.369 --> 18:58.436 align:start IT'S PRESTIGIOUS, WE GIVE THE 18:58.439 --> 19:00.738 align:start STUDENT $80,000 PER YEAR, EVEN 19:00.741 --> 19:04.542 align:start HIGHER THAN A TYPICAL STIPEND IN 19:04.545 --> 19:08.413 align:start A PH.D. PROGRAM. 19:08.416 --> 19:08.780 align:start ALMOST $80,000 FOR TWO YEARS. 19:08.783 --> 19:13.017 align:start $160,000. 19:13.020 --> 19:14.318 align:start THEN GOVERNMENT GIVE YOU 19:14.321 --> 19:15.253 align:start TRAINING, SECURITY CLEARANCE, 19:15.256 --> 19:17.422 align:start PREVAILING RATE IN THE 19:17.425 --> 19:18.156 align:start GOVERNMENT SETTING TYPICALLY IN 19:18.159 --> 19:19.924 align:start WASHINGTON, D.C. AREA AND ALSO 19:19.927 --> 19:22.727 align:start IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL. 19:22.730 --> 19:27.065 align:start WITH TWO YEARS OF TRAINING WITH 19:27.068 --> 19:28.766 align:start A DEGREE, TWO YEARS, WILL GET A 19:28.769 --> 19:29.133 align:start SECURITY, A TOP SECRET 19:29.136 --> 19:31.069 align:start CLEARANCE. 19:31.072 --> 19:31.369 align:start FOUR YEARS, THEN SKY'S THE 19:31.372 --> 19:33.838 align:start LIMIT. 19:33.841 --> 19:35.373 align:start YOU CAN CONTINUE IN THE AGENCY. 19:35.376 --> 19:35.840 align:start I THINK 50% CONTINUE TO STAY IN 19:35.843 --> 19:39.177 align:start THE GOVERNMENT. 19:39.180 --> 19:44.015 align:start THE OTHER 50% MAY DECIDE TO MOVE 19:44.018 --> 19:49.087 align:start INTO OTHER E-COMMERCE OR 19:49.090 --> 19:51.322 align:start CONSULTING FIRM. 19:51.325 --> 19:51.789 align:start >> IT'S FUNDED BECAUSE THIS IS 19:51.792 --> 19:52.623 align:start IMPORTANT WORK. 19:52.626 --> 19:54.158 align:start >> IT IS. 19:54.161 --> 19:55.660 align:start >> WHAT WOULD MOTIVATE YOU? 19:55.663 --> 19:56.361 align:start YOU SAID EARLIER TO SERVE THE 19:56.364 --> 19:58.296 align:start COUNTRY. 19:58.299 --> 19:59.430 align:start I MEAN BECAUSE WE'RE VULNERABLE. 19:59.433 --> 20:00.264 align:start >> RIGHT. 20:00.267 --> 20:01.499 align:start SOCIETAL IMPACT. 20:01.502 --> 20:03.434 align:start THE AREA OF WORK THAT WE'RE IN 20:03.437 --> 20:04.335 align:start RIGHT NOW HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL 20:04.338 --> 20:05.970 align:start FOR SOCIETAL IMPACT. 20:05.973 --> 20:09.874 align:start SOME OF THE RESEARCH AVENUES 20:09.877 --> 20:11.009 align:start THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT CAN 20:11.012 --> 20:12.477 align:start POTENTIALLY CYBER CRIME MOVING 20:12.480 --> 20:13.878 align:start FORWARD SO THAT'S A BIG 20:13.881 --> 20:14.379 align:start MOTIVATION TO PURSUE THIS LINE 20:14.382 --> 20:15.713 align:start OF RESEARCH. 20:15.716 --> 20:16.948 align:start >> YOU THINK MOST PEOPLE 20:16.951 --> 20:17.215 align:start UNDERSTAND HOW VULNERABLE WE 20:17.218 --> 20:19.317 align:start ARE? 20:19.320 --> 20:19.617 align:start >> KIND OF. 20:19.620 --> 20:21.786 align:start YEAH. 20:21.789 --> 20:22.820 align:start IT DEPENDS. 20:22.823 --> 20:23.788 align:start THERE ARE CERTAIN TECHNICAL 20:23.791 --> 20:26.791 align:start MEASURES THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE 20:26.794 --> 20:27.191 align:start THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF 20:27.194 --> 20:28.693 align:start WHATSOEVER. 20:28.696 --> 20:30.561 align:start SO INSTALLING CERTAIN PIECES OF 20:30.564 --> 20:31.696 align:start SOFTWARE ON YOUR PHONE THAT ARE 20:31.699 --> 20:33.831 align:start BENIGN BUT ARE COLLECTING DATA, 20:33.834 --> 20:34.132 align:start A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE 20:34.135 --> 20:35.066 align:start THAT. 20:35.069 --> 20:37.135 align:start BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE A 20:37.138 --> 20:39.871 align:start LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE YOU KNOW, 20:39.874 --> 20:41.639 align:start VERY PRO ACTIVE ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS 20:41.642 --> 20:43.107 align:start AND PASS WORD PROTECTION AND 20:43.110 --> 20:44.742 align:start THINGS LIKE THAT BUT NOT AWARE 20:44.745 --> 20:45.243 align:start OF THE TECHNICAL 20:45.246 --> 20:46.511 align:start IMPLEMENTATIONS. 20:46.514 --> 20:50.415 align:start >> WHAT ARE SIMPLE THINGS WE CAN 20:50.418 --> 20:52.417 align:start DO AS PRIVATE CITIZENS TO REALLY 20:52.420 --> 20:52.884 align:start MONITOR AND SECURE OUR OWN 20:52.887 --> 20:55.486 align:start SAFETY? 20:55.489 --> 20:57.455 align:start >> I THINK THESE DAYS THE MOBILE 20:57.458 --> 21:00.124 align:start DEVICES POST THE MOST THREATS. 21:00.127 --> 21:01.893 align:start THE MOBILE DEVICES OF CELL 21:01.896 --> 21:04.162 align:start PHONES TO iPAD AND WHAT NOT 21:04.165 --> 21:07.031 align:start ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE 21:07.034 --> 21:08.733 align:start ACCESSING SEEMINGLY BENIGN 21:08.736 --> 21:09.000 align:start WEBSITES, FREE SERVICES AND SO 21:09.003 --> 21:11.669 align:start ON. 21:11.672 --> 21:13.705 align:start YOU HAVE TO CAREFULLY THESE DAYS 21:13.708 --> 21:16.174 align:start MORE SO THAN THREE OR FOUR YEARS 21:16.177 --> 21:18.976 align:start AGO, CAREFULLY LOOK AT THE 21:18.979 --> 21:20.878 align:start PRIVACY SETTING, THE OPT IN OR 21:20.881 --> 21:23.414 align:start OPT OUT THAT MAKE SURE YOU ARE 21:23.417 --> 21:24.982 align:start UNDER THE MOST SECURE MECHANISM. 21:24.985 --> 21:25.283 align:start IN THE PAST WE DON'T THINK ABOUT 21:25.286 --> 21:28.186 align:start THAT. 21:28.189 --> 21:30.355 align:start A LOT OF DATA COLLECTED BY 21:30.358 --> 21:32.457 align:start APPLICATION, IT COULD BE A 21:32.460 --> 21:33.324 align:start FACEBOOK APP, AND TYPICALLY 21:33.327 --> 21:34.926 align:start BETTER PROTECTED. 21:34.929 --> 21:38.129 align:start WHEN YOU ARE CONNECTED TO OTHER 21:38.132 --> 21:40.932 align:start FREE WEBSITES, DICTIONARIES AND 21:40.935 --> 21:42.633 align:start FREE SERVICES, THEY ENTER 21:42.636 --> 21:43.935 align:start COOKIES ON YOUR BROWSER, ON YOUR 21:43.938 --> 21:46.704 align:start PHONES, THAT THEY CAN COLLECT 21:46.707 --> 21:48.172 align:start YOUR IP ADDRESS, THE TIME, THERE 21:48.175 --> 21:49.707 align:start ARE KEY WORDS YOU ARE USING. 21:49.710 --> 21:51.109 align:start EVEN COLLECTED BY INDIVIDUAL 21:51.112 --> 21:53.678 align:start VENDORS IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 21:53.681 --> 21:54.078 align:start BUT THESE DAYS THEY ARE SHARING 21:54.081 --> 21:56.014 align:start INFORMATION. 21:56.017 --> 21:58.516 align:start THEY BECOME DATA VENDORS. 21:58.519 --> 21:58.850 align:start HOW DO THEY MAKE MONEY FOR FREE 21:58.853 --> 22:00.685 align:start SERVICE. 22:00.688 --> 22:02.286 align:start THEY MUST MAKE MONEY SELLING 22:02.289 --> 22:02.954 align:start YOUR DATA, YOUR ACTIVITY TO 22:02.957 --> 22:04.789 align:start OTHER VENDORS. 22:04.792 --> 22:06.424 align:start WHEN THEY ARE SHARING ACROSS ALL 22:06.427 --> 22:09.527 align:start INDUSTRIES THAT BECOMES VERY 22:09.530 --> 22:11.029 align:start SCARY SCENARIO THAT A LOT OF 22:11.032 --> 22:14.065 align:start PEOPLE OUTSIDE KNOW ABOUT YOU, 22:14.068 --> 22:17.168 align:start AND THEN THEY CAN USE THE DATA 22:17.171 --> 22:19.837 align:start TO TRY AND YOUR VOTING RECORD, 22:19.840 --> 22:21.406 align:start THAT POSES VERY STRONG SECURITY 22:21.409 --> 22:22.640 align:start CONCERN AND PRIVACY CONCERN. 22:22.643 --> 22:24.842 align:start >> SO TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY SORT 22:24.845 --> 22:25.677 align:start OF FOSTERING THESE HACKERS. 22:25.680 --> 22:27.512 align:start >> EXACTLY. 22:27.515 --> 22:30.548 align:start THE PAST TWO OR THREE YEARS YOU 22:30.551 --> 22:32.517 align:start SEE THE PERFECT STORM FORMING. 22:32.520 --> 22:32.950 align:start MORE INFORMATION, MORE MOBILE 22:32.953 --> 22:34.986 align:start DEVICES. 22:34.989 --> 22:37.488 align:start PERFECT STORM ALSO MEANING THAT 22:37.491 --> 22:38.990 align:start HACKER COMMUNITY BECOME MORE 22:38.993 --> 22:40.692 align:start POWERFUL, MORE INTENT GETTING 22:40.695 --> 22:43.428 align:start INFORMATION AND THEY CAN AGAIN 22:43.431 --> 22:43.761 align:start FOR THEIR PERSONAL OR FINANCIAL 22:43.764 --> 22:45.063 align:start BENEFIT. 22:45.066 --> 22:49.000 align:start THIS IS THE TIME YOU HAVE TO PAY 22:49.003 --> 22:52.670 align:start ATTENTION TO PRIVACY AND CYBER 22:52.673 --> 22:54.305 align:start SECURITY. 22:54.308 --> 22:56.407 align:start >>> THE BUZZ NOW WITH MY 22:56.410 --> 23:00.578 align:start COLLEAGUE HERE AT ARIZONA PUBLIC 23:00.581 --> 23:01.779 align:start MEDIA CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. 23:01.782 --> 23:03.348 align:start BUSY WEEK. 23:03.351 --> 23:05.917 align:start DREAMERS, DRIVERS LICENSES AND 23:05.920 --> 23:06.217 align:start NOW THEY ARE ABLE TO USE THEM 23:06.220 --> 23:07.685 align:start HERE. 23:07.688 --> 23:09.921 align:start >> THE U.S. NINTH CIRCUIT COURT 23:09.924 --> 23:12.390 align:start OF APPEALS, FEDERAL COURT RULED 23:12.393 --> 23:13.958 align:start THAT ARIZONA CANNOT DENY DRIVERS 23:13.961 --> 23:16.494 align:start LICENSE TO THE FOLKS WE CALL 23:16.497 --> 23:18.262 align:start DREAMERS AND 2012, THEN GOVERNOR 23:18.265 --> 23:20.698 align:start BREWER ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER 23:20.701 --> 23:21.733 align:start THAT SAID NO, THEY CANNOT HAVE 23:21.736 --> 23:22.667 align:start ARIZONA DRIVER LICENSES. 23:22.670 --> 23:23.201 align:start THIS IS WORKING THROUGH THE 23:23.204 --> 23:24.669 align:start COURT SYSTEM. 23:24.672 --> 23:25.570 align:start THE NINTH CIRCUIT THIS WEEK SAID 23:25.573 --> 23:27.238 align:start YES, THEY CAN. 23:27.241 --> 23:29.140 align:start THEY ARE IN THE COUNTRY WITH A 23:29.143 --> 23:31.476 align:start LEGAL STATUS, THEREFORE THEY CAN 23:31.479 --> 23:33.511 align:start HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSES. 23:33.514 --> 23:36.047 align:start WE HAVEN'T HEARD AN OFFICIAL 23:36.050 --> 23:37.448 align:start RESPONSE YET BUT MOST PEOPLE 23:37.451 --> 23:38.783 align:start EXPECT THAT THIS WILL BE 23:38.786 --> 23:39.083 align:start APPEALED TO THE U.S. SUPREME 23:39.086 --> 23:41.119 align:start COURT. 23:41.122 --> 23:41.452 align:start >> DREAMERS CAN DRIVE LEGALLY NO 23:41.455 --> 23:43.087 align:start PROBLEM? 23:43.090 --> 23:44.689 align:start >> AT THIS POINT YES. 23:44.692 --> 23:46.357 align:start WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF THERE IS AN 23:46.360 --> 23:48.092 align:start APPEAL TO THE SUPREME COURT. 23:48.095 --> 23:50.428 align:start THE ISSUANCE OF THE LICENSES 23:50.431 --> 23:51.596 align:start COULD BE PUT ON HOLD AS AN 23:51.599 --> 23:51.929 align:start INJUNCTION IF THIS WORKS 23:51.932 --> 23:53.498 align:start THROUGH. 23:53.501 --> 23:56.334 align:start BUT UNLESS THAT HAPPENS, 23:56.337 --> 23:58.069 align:start DREAMERS WILL BE ABLE TO GET 23:58.072 --> 23:59.037 align:start LICENSES PER THE NINTH CIRCUIT 23:59.040 --> 24:00.304 align:start COURT OF APPEALS. 24:00.307 --> 24:01.673 align:start >> OTHER NEWS NOW. 24:01.676 --> 24:02.774 align:start THE PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE 24:02.777 --> 24:04.409 align:start PRIMARY THAT WILL NOT END. 24:04.412 --> 24:06.144 align:start WHAT IS THE STATUS THERE? 24:06.147 --> 24:08.279 align:start >> WE NOW HAVE OFFICIAL RESULTS, 24:08.282 --> 24:10.114 align:start THAT'S THE NEW PART THIS WEEK, 24:10.117 --> 24:11.616 align:start OR THE NEWEST PART THIS WEEK. 24:11.619 --> 24:12.050 align:start AS YOU SAID IT'S JUST NOT 24:12.053 --> 24:13.985 align:start ENDING. 24:13.988 --> 24:15.987 align:start THE VOTE HAS BEEN CERTIFIED. 24:15.990 --> 24:18.156 align:start THE QUESTIONS NOW REMAIN ABOUT 24:18.159 --> 24:18.489 align:start THOSE LONG LINES IN MARICOPA 24:18.492 --> 24:20.291 align:start COUNTY. 24:20.294 --> 24:22.327 align:start THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT 24:22.330 --> 24:22.760 align:start ANNOUNCED THAT THEY ARE 24:22.763 --> 24:26.197 align:start INVESTIGATING. 24:26.200 --> 24:26.597 align:start WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS AN 24:26.600 --> 24:27.799 align:start EXPLANATION. 24:27.802 --> 24:29.400 align:start IT'S REALLY THE EXPLANATION 24:29.403 --> 24:31.269 align:start EVERYBODY IS ASKING FOR. 24:31.272 --> 24:33.538 align:start HOW WAS IT DECIDED THERE WOULD 24:33.541 --> 24:36.874 align:start ONLY BE 60 POLLING PLACES? 24:36.877 --> 24:40.278 align:start WHERE WERE THEY PLACED? 24:40.281 --> 24:40.845 align:start WHY WERE SOME WHOLE DISTRICTS 24:40.848 --> 24:43.247 align:start FOR EXAMPLE LEFT OUT? 24:43.250 --> 24:44.949 align:start WERE THERE CERTAIN MINORITY 24:44.952 --> 24:45.249 align:start GROUPS HURT MORE THAN OTHERS BUY 24:45.252 --> 24:46.417 align:start THIS? 24:46.420 --> 24:47.952 align:start THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS 24:47.955 --> 24:49.721 align:start LOOKING INTO ALL THIS. 24:49.724 --> 24:52.557 align:start NO TIME TABLE ON WHEN THEY'LL 24:52.560 --> 24:52.990 align:start HAVE A WRAP-UP OF THEIR 24:52.993 --> 24:54.425 align:start INVESTIGATION. 24:54.428 --> 24:56.527 align:start STATE OFFICIALS, COUNTY 24:56.530 --> 24:58.096 align:start OFFICIALS, MARICOPA COUNTY, ARE 24:58.099 --> 25:00.198 align:start COOPERATING AND THEY HAVE ALSO 25:00.201 --> 25:02.734 align:start SAID THIS WON'T HAPPEN FOR THE 25:02.737 --> 25:04.602 align:start MAY SPECIAL ELECTION, IT WON'T 25:04.605 --> 25:05.470 align:start FOR THE AUGUST PRIMARY AND WON'T 25:05.473 --> 25:07.372 align:start HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER. 25:07.375 --> 25:08.773 align:start >> I SAW IT MIRT BE RELATED TO 25:08.776 --> 25:10.208 align:start FUNDING IN REMOVING POLLING 25:10.211 --> 25:11.075 align:start PLACES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE 25:11.078 --> 25:14.312 align:start BUDGET CUTS? 25:14.315 --> 25:15.446 align:start >> THAT'S WHAT THE MARICOPA 25:15.449 --> 25:16.981 align:start COUNTY RECORDER WAS TRYING TO 25:16.984 --> 25:18.883 align:start SAY WHEN SHE APPEARED BEFORE THE 25:18.886 --> 25:20.551 align:start LEGISLATURE AND IN FRONT OF THE 25:20.554 --> 25:21.085 align:start MARICOPA COUNTY BOARD OF 25:21.088 --> 25:22.520 align:start SUPERVISORS. 25:22.523 --> 25:24.122 align:start THE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T BUY IT. 25:24.125 --> 25:25.490 align:start SAID LOOK, YOU ALWAYS HAD THE 25:25.493 --> 25:27.725 align:start SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. 25:27.728 --> 25:29.494 align:start WE WERE HOPING TO GIVE YOU MORE 25:29.497 --> 25:30.728 align:start MONEY, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY 25:30.731 --> 25:33.331 align:start DECREASED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY 25:33.334 --> 25:35.433 align:start THAT YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN. 25:35.436 --> 25:35.967 align:start SO THE LEGISLATURE WASN'T BUYING 25:35.970 --> 25:36.334 align:start THAT. 25:36.337 --> 25:36.734 align:start ENTIRELY. 25:36.737 --> 25:38.336 align:start >> OKAY. 25:38.339 --> 25:39.504 align:start LET'S MOVE ON. 25:39.507 --> 25:41.305 align:start NEWS THAT CAME OUT LATE IN THE 25:41.308 --> 25:43.741 align:start WEEK HERE, REPORTERS NO LONGER 25:43.744 --> 25:46.477 align:start ALLOWED ON THE HOUSE FLOOR OF 25:46.480 --> 25:47.745 align:start THE ARIZONA CAPITOL UNLESS THEY 25:47.748 --> 25:48.780 align:start CONSENT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK. 25:48.783 --> 25:51.315 align:start >> EXACTLY. 25:51.318 --> 25:53.518 align:start THE HOUSE SPEAKER DAVID GALLEN 25:53.521 --> 25:54.452 align:start PUT IN NEW SECURITY RULES THAT 25:54.455 --> 25:55.987 align:start SAID ALL NON-STAFF MEMBERS IN 25:55.990 --> 25:58.222 align:start ORDER TO HAVE ACCESS TO SECURE 25:58.225 --> 26:00.224 align:start AREAS WHICH THE THE FLOOR IS 26:00.227 --> 26:02.026 align:start WHICH MEMBERS OFFICES ARE ALSO, 26:02.029 --> 26:02.327 align:start MUST GO THROUGH A BACKGROUND 26:02.330 --> 26:03.795 align:start CHECK. 26:03.798 --> 26:06.364 align:start THAT CHECK MEANS THAT YOU HAVE 26:06.367 --> 26:08.066 align:start TO GIVE YOUR NAME, YOUR DRIVER'S 26:08.069 --> 26:11.235 align:start LICENSE, YOUR BIRTH DATE, AND 26:11.238 --> 26:12.637 align:start ANY ALIASES THAT YOU HAVE AND 26:12.640 --> 26:13.571 align:start SOME REPORTERS WORK UNDER 26:13.574 --> 26:14.872 align:start DIFFERENT NAMES. 26:14.875 --> 26:16.774 align:start IT'S COMMON IN OUR BUSINESS. 26:16.777 --> 26:17.108 align:start AND THE REPORTERS SAID WAIT A 26:17.111 --> 26:18.776 align:start MINUTE. 26:18.779 --> 26:19.877 align:start WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS. 26:19.880 --> 26:21.446 align:start THIS IS THREE QUARTERS OF THE 26:21.449 --> 26:23.247 align:start WAY THROUGH THE SESSION WE'RE 26:23.250 --> 26:24.916 align:start APPROACHING THE 100th DAY. 26:24.919 --> 26:26.684 align:start THIS ISN'T NEEDED. 26:26.687 --> 26:27.051 align:start GALLEN SAID IT'S ALL ABOUT 26:27.054 --> 26:28.720 align:start SECURITY. 26:28.723 --> 26:30.188 align:start NOW, PART OF THIS BACKGROUND 26:30.191 --> 26:31.823 align:start CHECK IS ANY REPORTER WHO IS 26:31.826 --> 26:33.291 align:start FOUND TO HAVE A FELONY 26:33.294 --> 26:34.859 align:start CONVICTION IN THE LAST 10 YEARS 26:34.862 --> 26:35.960 align:start WOULD BE BARRED FROM THE FLOOR 26:35.963 --> 26:37.328 align:start OF THE HOUSE. 26:37.331 --> 26:38.696 align:start OR A MISDEMEANOR CONVICTION IN 26:38.699 --> 26:40.398 align:start THE LAST FIVE YEARS WOULD ALSO 26:40.401 --> 26:40.765 align:start BE BARRED FROM THE FLOOR OF THE 26:40.768 --> 26:43.001 align:start HOUSE. 26:43.004 --> 26:44.502 align:start THERE IS A REPORTER WHO HAS 26:44.505 --> 26:46.537 align:start WRITTEN SOME VERY CRITICAL 26:46.540 --> 26:48.639 align:start STORIES OF SPEAKER GALLEN, SOME 26:48.642 --> 26:49.774 align:start THAT HAVE LAUNCHED AN ATTORNEY 26:49.777 --> 26:52.810 align:start GENERAL'S INVESTIGATION ABOUT 26:52.813 --> 26:55.713 align:start HIS USE OF STATE VEHICLES, WHO 26:55.716 --> 26:56.114 align:start HAS AN ADMITTED MISDEMEANOR 26:56.117 --> 26:57.482 align:start CONVICTION. 26:57.485 --> 26:59.484 align:start AND SO HE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED 26:59.487 --> 26:59.951 align:start ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE UNDER 26:59.954 --> 27:01.919 align:start THIS. 27:01.922 --> 27:04.188 align:start REPORTERS SAY THIS IS TARGETING, 27:04.191 --> 27:04.555 align:start THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 27:04.558 --> 27:05.823 align:start SECURITY. 27:05.826 --> 27:07.792 align:start >> TIMING IS PRETTY UNIQUE. 27:07.795 --> 27:09.360 align:start YOU HAVE COVERED THE CAPITOL FOR 27:09.363 --> 27:10.328 align:start YEARS IN ARIZONA AND OTHER 27:10.331 --> 27:10.928 align:start STATES, HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING 27:10.931 --> 27:13.164 align:start LIKE THIS? 27:13.167 --> 27:14.465 align:start >> IN FLORIDA WHEN I COVERED THE 27:14.468 --> 27:16.300 align:start CAPITOL FOLLOWING SEPTEMBER 11 27:16.303 --> 27:17.869 align:start WE HAD TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS, 27:17.872 --> 27:20.738 align:start JEB BUSH WAS GOVERNOR, WHAT 27:20.741 --> 27:22.106 align:start THOSE CHECKS ALLOWED US TO DO 27:22.109 --> 27:24.142 align:start WAS BYPASS SECURITY. 27:24.145 --> 27:26.711 align:start ANY REPORTER, THOUGH, WITH A 27:26.714 --> 27:27.612 align:start CREDENTIAL, A NON-CAPITOL 27:27.615 --> 27:29.781 align:start CREDENTIAL COULD STILL GET INTO 27:29.784 --> 27:31.616 align:start THE REPORTERS GALLERIES OR ON 27:31.619 --> 27:32.750 align:start THE FLOOR AT SPECIFIC TIMES. 27:32.753 --> 27:33.651 align:start THEY JUST COULDN'T BYPASS 27:33.654 --> 27:35.553 align:start SECURITY TO DO IT. 27:35.556 --> 27:36.487 align:start >> THIS COULD MAKE OUR JOBS A 27:36.490 --> 27:37.722 align:start TAD MORE CHALLENGING. 27:37.725 --> 27:38.890 align:start >> A BIT MORE. 27:38.893 --> 27:40.158 align:start >> CHRISTOPHER, THANK YOU. 27:40.161 --> 27:40.758 align:start AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 27:40.761 --> 27:41.426 align:start JOINING US. 27:41.429 --> 27:43.328 align:start THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. 27:43.331 --> 27:44.862 align:start FOR ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC