WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.904 TEST>>> A FORMER GOVERNOR SITS DOWN AND SHARES HIS STORY OF 00:05.906 --> 00:07.740 DOWN AND SHARES HIS STORY OF RISING IN ARIZONA POLITICS. 00:07.742 --> 00:11.410 RISING IN ARIZONA POLITICS. >> IN OTHER WORDS WHENEVER I 00:11.412 --> 00:15.781 >> IN OTHER WORDS WHENEVER I FELT THAT IT MADE ME MOVE 00:15.783 --> 00:19.051 FELT THAT IT MADE ME MOVE FORWARD. 00:19.053 --> 00:20.452 FORWARD. AND I GET -- 00:20.454 --> 00:21.954 AND I GET -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] 00:21.956 --> 00:24.623 [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> WITH TWO WEEKS UNTIL MIDTERM 00:24.625 --> 00:26.091 >> WITH TWO WEEKS UNTIL MIDTERM ELECTIONS DOLLARS ARE ADDING UP. 00:26.093 --> 00:28.127 ELECTIONS DOLLARS ARE ADDING UP. WHO IS PAYING FOR SOME OF THE 00:28.129 --> 00:29.328 WHO IS PAYING FOR SOME OF THE STATE'S KEY RACES? 00:29.330 --> 00:34.700 STATE'S KEY RACES? THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 00:34.702 --> 00:37.169 THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." >>> JUST AS ARIZONA IS READY TO 00:37.171 --> 00:38.737 >>> JUST AS ARIZONA IS READY TO ELECT A NEW GOVERNOR TODAY WE 00:38.739 --> 00:42.007 ELECT A NEW GOVERNOR TODAY WE ARE HEARING FROM A FORMER 00:42.009 --> 00:42.908 ARE HEARING FROM A FORMER GOVERNOR. 00:42.910 --> 00:46.078 GOVERNOR. LEADING ARIZONA FROM 1975 TO 00:46.080 --> 00:47.146 LEADING ARIZONA FROM 1975 TO 1977. 00:47.148 --> 00:49.415 1977. TODAY, THE 98-YEAR-OLD LIVES IN 00:49.417 --> 00:50.282 TODAY, THE 98-YEAR-OLD LIVES IN SAN DIEGO. 00:50.284 --> 00:52.117 SAN DIEGO. ELECTED 40 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH. 00:52.119 --> 00:53.886 ELECTED 40 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH. JUST THIS WEEK HE VISITED TUCSON 00:53.888 --> 00:55.954 JUST THIS WEEK HE VISITED TUCSON TO ACCEPT AN AWARD FROM THE 00:55.956 --> 01:00.426 TO ACCEPT AN AWARD FROM THE HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 01:00.428 --> 01:00.759 HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. ¶ 01:00.761 --> 01:01.093 ¶ ¶ 01:01.095 --> 01:03.695 ¶ RAUL GASTROW'S STORY BEGINS 01:03.697 --> 01:05.964 RAUL GASTROW'S STORY BEGINS SOUTH OF THE BORDER IN MEXICO 01:05.966 --> 01:08.233 SOUTH OF THE BORDER IN MEXICO WHERE HIS FATHER WORKED AS A 01:08.235 --> 01:10.202 WHERE HIS FATHER WORKED AS A MINER IN THE 1900s. 01:10.204 --> 01:12.638 MINER IN THE 1900s. THE FAMILY'S TIME THERE DIDN'T 01:12.640 --> 01:13.172 THE FAMILY'S TIME THERE DIDN'T LAST LONG. 01:13.174 --> 01:15.240 LAST LONG. A UNION STRIKE LED TO THE ARREST 01:15.242 --> 01:16.575 A UNION STRIKE LED TO THE ARREST OF HIS FATHER AND DEPORTATION OF 01:16.577 --> 01:18.811 OF HIS FATHER AND DEPORTATION OF THE FAMILY, MOTHER, FATHER, TEN 01:18.813 --> 01:22.915 THE FAMILY, MOTHER, FATHER, TEN BOYS, ONE GIRL. 01:22.917 --> 01:27.119 BOYS, ONE GIRL. >> PART OF ARIZONA, THE 01:27.121 --> 01:28.487 >> PART OF ARIZONA, THE IMMIGRATION OFFICER FINISHED 01:28.489 --> 01:30.322 IMMIGRATION OFFICER FINISHED WITH THE PAPERWORK, HE SAID YOU 01:30.324 --> 01:34.293 WITH THE PAPERWORK, HE SAID YOU ARE NOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF 01:34.295 --> 01:34.626 ARE NOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 01:34.628 --> 01:36.261 AMERICA. IT IS UP TO YOU. 01:36.263 --> 01:38.130 IT IS UP TO YOU. MEANING DON'T EXPECT ANY 01:38.132 --> 01:38.497 MEANING DON'T EXPECT ANY HANDOUTS. 01:38.499 --> 01:40.232 HANDOUTS. DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE HELP, ET 01:40.234 --> 01:40.566 DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE HELP, ET CETERA. 01:40.568 --> 01:42.568 CETERA. THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM. 01:42.570 --> 01:43.836 THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM. >> IT WAS NEVER EASY. 01:43.838 --> 01:47.739 >> IT WAS NEVER EASY. AS A BOY IN DOUGLAS, THE 01:47.741 --> 01:49.575 AS A BOY IN DOUGLAS, THE GOVERNOR RECALLED DISCRIMINATION 01:49.577 --> 01:51.243 GOVERNOR RECALLED DISCRIMINATION AND PREJUDICE. 01:51.245 --> 01:56.982 AND PREJUDICE. >> WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, A 01:56.984 --> 01:58.317 >> WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, A SCHOOL FOR MEXICAN KIDS, GRAMMAR 01:58.319 --> 02:02.187 SCHOOL FOR MEXICAN KIDS, GRAMMAR SCHOOL WAS SEGREGATED, NO 02:02.189 --> 02:04.590 SCHOOL WAS SEGREGATED, NO MEXICANS, YOUR DUMMIES, MEXICAN 02:04.592 --> 02:04.890 MEXICANS, YOUR DUMMIES, MEXICAN KIDS. 02:04.892 --> 02:06.391 KIDS. THOSE ARE THING THAT MOTIVATED 02:06.393 --> 02:08.160 THOSE ARE THING THAT MOTIVATED ME INSTEAD OF MAKING ME QUIT. 02:08.162 --> 02:11.096 ME INSTEAD OF MAKING ME QUIT. >> I WOULD LOOK TO INTRODUCE THE 02:11.098 --> 02:12.331 >> I WOULD LOOK TO INTRODUCE THE HONORABLE GOVERNOR. 02:12.333 --> 02:14.032 HONORABLE GOVERNOR. >> EXPERIENCE HE'S SHARES 02:14.034 --> 02:17.736 >> EXPERIENCE HE'S SHARES WHENEVER ASKED ABOUT HIS LIFE. 02:17.738 --> 02:20.272 WHENEVER ASKED ABOUT HIS LIFE. >> I WENT TO SCHOOL, AND TIME 02:20.274 --> 02:22.474 >> I WENT TO SCHOOL, AND TIME CAME TO GO TO SCHOOL IN DOUGLAS. 02:22.476 --> 02:24.276 CAME TO GO TO SCHOOL IN DOUGLAS. WE WALKED TO DOUGLAS FIVE MILES. 02:24.278 --> 02:30.616 WE WALKED TO DOUGLAS FIVE MILES. THE BUSES FROM DOUGLAS WOULD 02:30.618 --> 02:31.550 THE BUSES FROM DOUGLAS WOULD PECK -- 02:31.552 --> 02:32.217 PECK -- PICK UP THE WHITE CHILDREN. 02:32.219 --> 02:32.718 PICK UP THE WHITE CHILDREN. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. 02:32.720 --> 02:33.352 THIS IS NOT RIGHT. THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE. 02:33.354 --> 02:34.286 THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. 02:34.288 --> 02:35.487 THIS IS NOT RIGHT. THESE ARE THE THINGS MY LIFE 02:35.489 --> 02:37.256 THESE ARE THE THINGS MY LIFE THAT MADE ME PUSH FORWARD TO, 02:37.258 --> 02:41.393 THAT MADE ME PUSH FORWARD TO, TRY TO, SEE HOW THINGS CHANGED. 02:41.395 --> 02:46.198 TRY TO, SEE HOW THINGS CHANGED. >> PANFUL ME F PAINFUL MEMORIES 02:46.200 --> 02:46.832 >> PANFUL ME F PAINFUL MEMORIES CHILDHOOD. 02:46.834 --> 02:49.168 CHILDHOOD. THE DAY THE GOVERNOR VISITED 02:49.170 --> 02:52.304 THE DAY THE GOVERNOR VISITED DOUGLAS MAY HAVE CHANGED IT ALL. 02:52.306 --> 02:58.677 DOUGLAS MAY HAVE CHANGED IT ALL. IT IS AST STEORY HE TELLS AT AG 02:58.679 --> 03:10.155 IT IS AST STEORY HE TELLS AT AG 98. 03:10.157 --> 03:13.392 98. >> IF THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA 03:13.394 --> 03:15.027 >> IF THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA ARRIVED, HEAVY SET, BIG 03:15.029 --> 03:15.394 ARRIVED, HEAVY SET, BIG SHOULDERS. 03:15.396 --> 03:17.095 SHOULDERS. HE SAID, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF 03:17.097 --> 03:18.664 HE SAID, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF DOUGLAS, ARIZONA, THANK YOU FOR 03:18.666 --> 03:20.632 DOUGLAS, ARIZONA, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO SPEAK TODAY, FOR 03:20.634 --> 03:23.402 INVITING ME TO SPEAK TODAY, FOR LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, AND 03:23.404 --> 03:23.802 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, AND OPPORTUNITY. 03:23.804 --> 03:26.572 OPPORTUNITY. AND ONE OF THESE DAYS, ONE OF 03:26.574 --> 03:27.706 AND ONE OF THESE DAYS, ONE OF THESE BAREFOOTED KIDS. 03:27.708 --> 03:29.508 THESE BAREFOOTED KIDS. HE POINTED RIGHT AT ME, WILL 03:29.510 --> 03:33.879 HE POINTED RIGHT AT ME, WILL GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA. 03:33.881 --> 03:35.614 GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA. >> A GLIMPSE OF HOPE THAT 03:35.616 --> 03:36.848 >> A GLIMPSE OF HOPE THAT IRONICALLY OFFERED AN INSIGHT 03:36.850 --> 03:37.783 IRONICALLY OFFERED AN INSIGHT INTO THE FUTURE. 03:37.785 --> 03:39.585 INTO THE FUTURE. IT IS A MOMENT IN TIME, THAT 03:39.587 --> 03:42.054 IT IS A MOMENT IN TIME, THAT NEVER DISAPPEARED FROM THIS 03:42.056 --> 03:42.721 NEVER DISAPPEARED FROM THIS BOY'S DREAMS. 03:42.723 --> 03:47.092 BOY'S DREAMS. >> ONE DAY THE TEACHER, SCHOOL 03:47.094 --> 03:49.428 >> ONE DAY THE TEACHER, SCHOOL FOR MEXICAN KIDS, CAME PUT AN 03:49.430 --> 03:52.331 FOR MEXICAN KIDS, CAME PUT AN ARM ON MY SHOULDER AND SAID, 03:52.333 --> 03:53.799 ARM ON MY SHOULDER AND SAID, RAUL, PRONOUNCED MY NAME, YOU 03:53.801 --> 03:54.967 RAUL, PRONOUNCED MY NAME, YOU ARE NOT MAKING GOOD WORK. 03:54.969 --> 03:56.668 ARE NOT MAKING GOOD WORK. I'VE THINK YOU CAN BE A VERY 03:56.670 --> 03:57.236 I'VE THINK YOU CAN BE A VERY GOOD STUDENT. 03:57.238 --> 03:58.637 GOOD STUDENT. BUT YOU ARE NOT BEING ONE. 03:58.639 --> 04:00.405 BUT YOU ARE NOT BEING ONE. ON THE WAY HOME THAT EVENING, I 04:00.407 --> 04:01.306 ON THE WAY HOME THAT EVENING, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF. 04:01.308 --> 04:03.508 THOUGHT TO MYSELF. THAT TEACHER MUST CARE FOR ME. 04:03.510 --> 04:05.444 THAT TEACHER MUST CARE FOR ME. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. 04:05.446 --> 04:07.679 BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I DID BECOME A GOOD STUDENT. 04:07.681 --> 04:10.449 I DID BECOME A GOOD STUDENT. >> A STRONG STUDENT AND STANDOUT 04:10.451 --> 04:12.284 >> A STRONG STUDENT AND STANDOUT ATHLETE, HE ENROLLED AT NORTHERN 04:12.286 --> 04:15.420 ATHLETE, HE ENROLLED AT NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY. 04:15.422 --> 04:20.692 ARIZONA UNIVERSITY. >> QUARTERBACK ON THE FOOTBALL 04:20.694 --> 04:21.827 >> QUARTERBACK ON THE FOOTBALL TEAM. 04:21.829 --> 04:23.428 TEAM. TIME GRADUATION TIME CAME, I 04:23.430 --> 04:24.229 TIME GRADUATION TIME CAME, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF. 04:24.231 --> 04:27.099 THOUGHT TO MYSELF. I AM A BIG SHOT. 04:27.101 --> 04:28.834 I AM A BIG SHOT. I GARARADUATED. 04:28.836 --> 04:30.636 I GARARADUATED. TRIED TO GET A TEACHING JOB IN 04:30.638 --> 04:31.603 TRIED TO GET A TEACHING JOB IN ARIZONA. 04:31.605 --> 04:31.903 ARIZONA. NADA. 04:31.905 --> 04:34.006 NADA. WE DON'T HIRE MEXICANS TO BE 04:34.008 --> 04:34.373 WE DON'T HIRE MEXICANS TO BE TEACHERS. 04:34.375 --> 04:35.474 TEACHERS. SO I WANT TO MOTHER. 04:35.476 --> 04:36.675 SO I WANT TO MOTHER. MOTHER, I AM NOT LEAVING YOU. 04:36.677 --> 04:40.679 MOTHER, I AM NOT LEAVING YOU. I CAN'T GET A JOB. 04:40.681 --> 04:42.481 I CAN'T GET A JOB. >> BY TRAIN HE TRAVELED TO 04:42.483 --> 04:45.384 >> BY TRAIN HE TRAVELED TO OKLAHOMA AND WORKED THE FIELDS. 04:45.386 --> 04:46.518 OKLAHOMA AND WORKED THE FIELDS. BOXING ON THE SIDE. 04:46.520 --> 04:50.088 BOXING ON THE SIDE. AND HE WORKED AT THE DOUGLAS 04:50.090 --> 04:51.056 AND HE WORKED AT THE DOUGLAS SMELTER, EVERYTHING FUELED HIS 04:51.058 --> 04:51.423 SMELTER, EVERYTHING FUELED HIS FIRE. 04:51.425 --> 04:55.027 FIRE. >> YOU CAN CHANGE THINGS. 04:55.029 --> 04:57.629 >> YOU CAN CHANGE THINGS. ONCE I WALKED UP TO THE SMELTER 04:57.631 --> 05:04.936 ONCE I WALKED UP TO THE SMELTER IN DOUGLAS. 05:04.938 --> 05:06.538 IN DOUGLAS. I GOT $2.20. 05:06.540 --> 05:07.506 I GOT $2.20. I SAID WHY. 05:07.508 --> 05:09.408 I SAID WHY. BECAUSE YOU ARE A MIX CAN. 05:09.410 --> 05:11.777 BECAUSE YOU ARE A MIX CAN. YOU CAN BE A MINER. 05:11.779 --> 05:16.348 YOU CAN BE A MINER. BUT NOT ON, IF YOU ARE A 05:16.350 --> 05:17.215 BUT NOT ON, IF YOU ARE A MEXICAN. 05:17.217 --> 05:19.184 MEXICAN. >> A JOB AT THE AMERICAN EMBASSY 05:19.186 --> 05:21.753 >> A JOB AT THE AMERICAN EMBASSY ACROSS THE BORDER FROM DOUGLAS, 05:21.755 --> 05:23.488 ACROSS THE BORDER FROM DOUGLAS, IGNITED AN INTEREST IN PUBLIC 05:23.490 --> 05:23.822 IGNITED AN INTEREST IN PUBLIC SERVICE. 05:23.824 --> 05:25.524 SERVICE. AND AN IDEA THAT MAYBE HE SHOULD 05:25.526 --> 05:26.825 AND AN IDEA THAT MAYBE HE SHOULD APPLY TO LAW SCHOOL AT THE 05:26.827 --> 05:29.061 APPLY TO LAW SCHOOL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA. 05:29.063 --> 05:30.729 UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA. DESPITE ADMINISTRATIVE 05:30.731 --> 05:34.333 DESPITE ADMINISTRATIVE OBJECTIONS, HE WAS ACCEPTED AND 05:34.335 --> 05:34.700 OBJECTIONS, HE WAS ACCEPTED AND EXCELLED. 05:34.702 --> 05:35.801 EXCELLED. HE IS PROUD TO SAY, EDUCATION, 05:35.803 --> 05:41.039 HE IS PROUD TO SAY, EDUCATION, FOREVER, CHANGED HIS PATH. 05:41.041 --> 05:44.142 FOREVER, CHANGED HIS PATH. >> I WAS AN ATTORNEY, JUDGE AT 05:44.144 --> 05:46.745 >> I WAS AN ATTORNEY, JUDGE AT SUPERIOR COURT, JUDGE OF 05:46.747 --> 05:48.080 SUPERIOR COURT, JUDGE OF JUVENILE COURT, GOVERNOR. 05:48.082 --> 05:53.552 JUVENILE COURT, GOVERNOR. WHEN I WANT TO ARGENTINA, THEY 05:53.554 --> 05:55.987 WHEN I WANT TO ARGENTINA, THEY SENT A MEXICAN TO BE THE 05:55.989 --> 05:56.822 SENT A MEXICAN TO BE THE AMERICAN AMBASSADOR. 05:56.824 --> 05:58.924 AMERICAN AMBASSADOR. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? 05:58.926 --> 06:01.093 >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> I WANTED TO START WALKING IN 06:01.095 --> 06:02.361 >> I WANTED TO START WALKING IN THE STREETS AND TALKING TO 06:02.363 --> 06:02.694 THE STREETS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE. 06:02.696 --> 06:03.962 PEOPLE. THINGS CHANGED. 06:03.964 --> 06:06.965 THINGS CHANGED. THEY SAID, FINE. 06:06.967 --> 06:08.367 THEY SAID, FINE. AND ARGENTINA. 06:08.369 --> 06:10.602 AND ARGENTINA. >> AFTER 14 YEARS OF LAFG BROAD, 06:10.604 --> 06:12.504 >> AFTER 14 YEARS OF LAFG BROAD, FRIEND SUGGEST HEED RUN FOR 06:12.506 --> 06:12.904 FRIEND SUGGEST HEED RUN FOR GOVERNOR. 06:12.906 --> 06:16.007 GOVERNOR. HE LOST BY LESS THAN 1% OF THE 06:16.009 --> 06:16.308 HE LOST BY LESS THAN 1% OF THE VOTE. 06:16.310 --> 06:17.943 VOTE. NOT BACKING DOWN FROM A FIGHT, 06:17.945 --> 06:19.544 NOT BACKING DOWN FROM A FIGHT, MR. CASTRO TRIED AGAIN. 06:19.546 --> 06:22.114 MR. CASTRO TRIED AGAIN. THIS TIME, WINNING AND MAKING 06:22.116 --> 06:23.849 THIS TIME, WINNING AND MAKING HISTORY AS ARIZONA'S FIRST 06:23.851 --> 06:26.685 HISTORY AS ARIZONA'S FIRST GOVERNOR OF MEXICAN DESCENT. 06:26.687 --> 06:29.421 GOVERNOR OF MEXICAN DESCENT. >> ON ELECTION DAY, AT 4:00 IN 06:29.423 --> 06:32.424 >> ON ELECTION DAY, AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING I WAS 4,000 VOTES 06:32.426 --> 06:33.959 THE MORNING I WAS 4,000 VOTES BEHIND THE NATIVE AMERICAN VOTE 06:33.961 --> 06:34.659 BEHIND THE NATIVE AMERICAN VOTE CAME IN. 06:34.661 --> 06:36.661 CAME IN. IT WAS IN SUPPORT OF MY 06:36.663 --> 06:37.028 IT WAS IN SUPPORT OF MY CAMPAIGN. 06:37.030 --> 06:38.997 CAMPAIGN. I WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF 06:38.999 --> 06:39.364 I WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA. 06:39.366 --> 06:41.967 ARIZONA. >> A SURREAL MOMENT HE HOPES 06:41.969 --> 06:44.903 >> A SURREAL MOMENT HE HOPES WILL INSPIRE FOR GENERATIONS. 06:44.905 --> 06:48.907 WILL INSPIRE FOR GENERATIONS. >> IMPORTANT -- OTHER 06:48.909 --> 06:50.776 >> IMPORTANT -- OTHER MEXICAN-AMERICAN KIDS, AS 06:50.778 --> 06:53.612 MEXICAN-AMERICAN KIDS, AS PROBABLY THE SAME THING. 06:53.614 --> 06:54.813 PROBABLY THE SAME THING. I COULD NEVER STAND IT. 06:54.815 --> 06:57.015 I COULD NEVER STAND IT. I COULD GO TO THE BARBER SHOP ON 06:57.017 --> 07:02.587 I COULD GO TO THE BARBER SHOP ON WEST CONGRESSEN TUCS EN TIN TUC. 07:02.589 --> 07:04.189 WEST CONGRESSEN TUCS EN TIN TUC. ALL THESE MEXICAN KIDS, 07:04.191 --> 07:05.357 ALL THESE MEXICAN KIDS, COMPLAINING SALARIES, WAGES. 07:05.359 --> 07:07.058 COMPLAINING SALARIES, WAGES. I SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT 07:07.060 --> 07:07.592 I SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? 07:07.594 --> 07:07.926 IT? NOTHING. 07:07.928 --> 07:10.028 NOTHING. I AM GOING TO RUN FOR COUNTY 07:10.030 --> 07:10.395 I AM GOING TO RUN FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. 07:10.397 --> 07:10.929 ATTORNEY. YOU ARE CRAZY. 07:10.931 --> 07:12.531 YOU ARE CRAZY. WHO IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU? 07:12.533 --> 07:14.599 WHO IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU? YOU ARE BORN IN MEXICO, MEXICAN 07:14.601 --> 07:14.933 YOU ARE BORN IN MEXICO, MEXICAN PARENTS. 07:14.935 --> 07:16.134 PARENTS. NOBODY IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU. 07:16.136 --> 07:18.437 NOBODY IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU. I RUN FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. 07:18.439 --> 07:20.105 I RUN FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A 07:20.107 --> 07:21.673 AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A COUNTY ATTORNEY IN TUCSON OF 07:21.675 --> 07:22.707 COUNTY ATTORNEY IN TUCSON OF MEXICAN DESCENT. 07:22.709 --> 07:24.443 MEXICAN DESCENT. I WAS IT FOR YEARS. 07:24.445 --> 07:25.644 I WAS IT FOR YEARS. AND JUDGE. 07:25.646 --> 07:26.945 AND JUDGE. >> OR GOVERNOR? 07:26.947 --> 07:29.781 >> OR GOVERNOR? >> GOVERNOR. 07:29.783 --> 07:30.982 >> GOVERNOR. YEAH. 07:30.984 --> 07:31.850 YEAH. AWE A 07:31.852 --> 07:32.784 AWE A A GAME CHANGER FOR THIS BOY FROM 07:32.786 --> 07:33.819 A GAME CHANGER FOR THIS BOY FROM THE BORDER. 07:33.821 --> 07:34.986 THE BORDER. >> GOVERNOR. 07:34.988 --> 07:36.221 >> GOVERNOR. IN ARIZONA. 07:36.223 --> 07:41.693 IN ARIZONA. WANTED ME TO BEA MEP WERE. 07:41.695 --> 07:43.929 WANTED ME TO BEA MEP WERE. NONE OF THE COUNTRY CLUBS IN 07:43.931 --> 07:44.262 NONE OF THE COUNTRY CLUBS IN TUCSON. 07:44.264 --> 07:45.730 TUCSON. I COULDN'T JOIN THEM. 07:45.732 --> 07:46.998 I COULDN'T JOIN THEM. ONCE I BECAME GOVERNOR THEY 07:47.000 --> 07:48.433 ONCE I BECAME GOVERNOR THEY LOVED ME DEARLY. 07:48.435 --> 07:50.168 LOVED ME DEARLY. >> BUT HE NEVER FORGOT WHO HE 07:50.170 --> 07:51.636 >> BUT HE NEVER FORGOT WHO HE WAS, WHERE HE CAM FROM OR THE 07:51.638 --> 08:01.079 WAS, WHERE HE CAM FROM OR THE JOURNEY HE HAS BEEN ON. 08:01.081 --> 08:02.380 JOURNEY HE HAS BEEN ON. >> KIDS DON'T HAVE MOTIVATION. 08:02.382 --> 08:02.781 >> KIDS DON'T HAVE MOTIVATION. THEY QUIT. 08:02.783 --> 08:03.682 THEY QUIT. THEY GIVE UP. 08:03.684 --> 08:05.317 THEY GIVE UP. I USED TO GO TO THE SCHOOL AND 08:05.319 --> 08:06.451 I USED TO GO TO THE SCHOOL AND TALK TO THE KIDS. 08:06.453 --> 08:08.253 TALK TO THE KIDS. THEY WOULD SAY, MR. CASTRO, YOU 08:08.255 --> 08:10.489 THEY WOULD SAY, MR. CASTRO, YOU MUST COME FROM A WEALTHY FAMILY. 08:10.491 --> 08:12.457 MUST COME FROM A WEALTHY FAMILY. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT KILLED ME. 08:12.459 --> 08:14.793 THOSE ARE THINGS THAT KILLED ME. I SAID, WHAT DO I TELL THEM, I 08:14.795 --> 08:17.162 I SAID, WHAT DO I TELL THEM, I SAID, LOOK AT ME. 08:17.164 --> 08:18.597 SAID, LOOK AT ME. I CAME FROM MEXICO. 08:18.599 --> 08:21.466 I CAME FROM MEXICO. EVERYWHERE I GO EVEN NOW AS AN 08:21.468 --> 08:25.804 EVERYWHERE I GO EVEN NOW AS AN ADULT, I GET SET BACK, BORED 08:25.806 --> 08:28.673 ADULT, I GET SET BACK, BORED PATROL, WHERE WERE YOU BORN? 08:28.675 --> 08:29.007 PATROL, WHERE WERE YOU BORN? MEXICO. 08:29.009 --> 08:30.775 MEXICO. AND BORDER PATROL COMES UP. 08:30.777 --> 08:34.379 AND BORDER PATROL COMES UP. HEY, AMIGO -- 08:34.381 --> 08:36.681 HEY, AMIGO -- [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ] 08:36.683 --> 08:38.483 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ] JUST REALLY THE SCARE OF MY LIFE 08:38.485 --> 08:38.917 JUST REALLY THE SCARE OF MY LIFE REALLY. 08:38.919 --> 08:40.552 REALLY. THAT'S THE MOTIVATOR IN ME. 08:40.554 --> 08:41.386 THAT'S THE MOTIVATOR IN ME. NEVER GAVE UP. 08:41.388 --> 08:42.621 NEVER GAVE UP. NEVER QUIT. 08:42.623 --> 08:45.090 NEVER QUIT. >> LIKE RAUL CASTRO'S LEGACY IT 08:45.092 --> 08:47.959 >> LIKE RAUL CASTRO'S LEGACY IT LIVES ON STRONG EVEN AT 98. 08:47.961 --> 08:49.728 LIVES ON STRONG EVEN AT 98. >> HA-HA! 08:49.730 --> 08:53.164 >> HA-HA! >> NO, I, I LIVED TATTERED AND 08:53.166 --> 08:54.266 >> NO, I, I LIVED TATTERED AND TORN, REALLY. 08:54.268 --> 08:55.667 TORN, REALLY. IT'S HARD. 08:55.669 --> 08:58.136 IT'S HARD. THE EYESIGHT GETS WEAK. 08:58.138 --> 09:01.473 THE EYESIGHT GETS WEAK. YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S NOT EASY. 09:01.475 --> 09:03.408 YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S NOT EASY. >> IT WAS NEVER EASY FOR HIM AS 09:03.410 --> 09:05.810 >> IT WAS NEVER EASY FOR HIM AS A CHILD AS A MAN, YET THE 09:05.812 --> 09:07.445 A CHILD AS A MAN, YET THE DIFFICULTIES WERE WHAT SHAPED 09:07.447 --> 09:09.614 DIFFICULTIES WERE WHAT SHAPED HIS CHARACTER AND ENGENDERED HIS 09:09.616 --> 09:10.081 HIS CHARACTER AND ENGENDERED HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 09:10.083 --> 09:10.448 ACCOMPLISHMENTS. ¶ 09:10.450 --> 09:16.388 ¶ ¶ 09:16.390 --> 09:18.456 ¶ >> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT 09:18.458 --> 09:20.225 >> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT HAS BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE GOVERNOR 09:20.227 --> 09:21.927 HAS BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE GOVERNOR CASTRO HELD A HIGH-PROFILE 09:21.929 --> 09:22.994 CASTRO HELD A HIGH-PROFILE OFFICE IN ARIZONA. 09:22.996 --> 09:25.497 OFFICE IN ARIZONA. A PIONEER IN POLITICS, BUT THERE 09:25.499 --> 09:27.299 A PIONEER IN POLITICS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN FEW POLITICIANS OF 09:27.301 --> 09:28.967 HAVE BEEN FEW POLITICIANS OF MEXICAN DESCENT TO REPRESENT THE 09:28.969 --> 09:29.267 MEXICAN DESCENT TO REPRESENT THE STATE. 09:29.269 --> 09:31.136 STATE. TWO POLITICAL CONSULTANTS IN 09:31.138 --> 09:32.103 TWO POLITICAL CONSULTANTS IN PHOENIX SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON 09:32.105 --> 09:32.971 PHOENIX SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE ROLE OF HISPANICS IN 09:32.973 --> 09:35.540 THE ROLE OF HISPANICS IN POLITICS. 09:35.542 --> 09:38.243 POLITICS. >> NOW WE ARE SEEING LATINOS AND 09:38.245 --> 09:39.444 >> NOW WE ARE SEEING LATINOS AND LATINAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE. 09:39.446 --> 09:40.946 LATINAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE. WHAT DO YOU KNOW WE ARE 09:40.948 --> 09:42.180 WHAT DO YOU KNOW WE ARE PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL. 09:42.182 --> 09:43.715 PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL. YOU LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE 09:43.717 --> 09:45.183 YOU LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE ACROSS THE STATE, WE ARE IN 09:45.185 --> 09:46.851 ACROSS THE STATE, WE ARE IN SCHOOL BOARD. 09:46.853 --> 09:48.853 SCHOOL BOARD. WE ARE IN COUNTY SUPERVISOR 09:48.855 --> 09:49.220 WE ARE IN COUNTY SUPERVISOR POSITIONS. 09:49.222 --> 09:51.156 POSITIONS. NOW RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE 09:51.158 --> 09:51.489 NOW RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICES. 09:51.491 --> 09:53.425 OFFICES. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT'S THE 09:53.427 --> 09:54.859 WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT'S THE LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY 09:54.861 --> 09:56.728 LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND 09:56.730 --> 09:58.930 FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND SAID, TELLING ITSELF, YOU KNOW, 09:58.932 --> 10:00.265 SAID, TELLING ITSELF, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS 10:00.267 --> 10:03.268 WE ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS ELECTORAL PROCESS. 10:03.270 --> 10:04.002 ELECTORAL PROCESS. >> ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT 10:04.004 --> 10:05.070 >> ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT OUT OF THE MIX. 10:05.072 --> 10:08.139 OUT OF THE MIX. WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG 10:08.141 --> 10:09.307 WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG REPUBLICAN REPRESENT THE STATE? 10:09.309 --> 10:10.075 REPUBLICAN REPRESENT THE STATE? >> GOOD QUESTION. 10:10.077 --> 10:15.347 >> GOOD QUESTION. A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. 10:15.349 --> 10:16.815 A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. YOU HAVE SEVERAL CANDIDATES IN 10:16.817 --> 10:17.816 YOU HAVE SEVERAL CANDIDATES IN NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO. 10:17.818 --> 10:19.317 NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO. YOU WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A 10:19.319 --> 10:23.822 YOU WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A STRONG, LATINO, SOME ONE OUT OF 10:23.824 --> 10:25.290 STRONG, LATINO, SOME ONE OUT OF ARIZONA. 10:25.292 --> 10:28.193 ARIZONA. I THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL 10:28.195 --> 10:28.526 I THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL HAPPEN. 10:28.528 --> 10:29.260 HAPPEN. UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN 10:29.262 --> 10:30.295 UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN REPUBLICANS IN MY OPINION GO 10:30.297 --> 10:31.630 REPUBLICANS IN MY OPINION GO AFTER THE CANDIDATES AND RECRUIT 10:31.632 --> 10:31.930 AFTER THE CANDIDATES AND RECRUIT THEM. 10:31.932 --> 10:33.098 THEM. THE WAY THAT I THINK THEY 10:33.100 --> 10:33.431 THE WAY THAT I THINK THEY SHOULD. 10:33.433 --> 10:35.100 SHOULD. >> WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM THE 10:35.102 --> 10:38.970 >> WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM THE STRATEGISTS ON NEXT WEEK'S 10:38.972 --> 10:39.571 STRATEGISTS ON NEXT WEEK'S PROGRAM. 10:39.573 --> 10:40.739 PROGRAM. ON TO DIFFERENT NEWS. 10:40.741 --> 10:42.307 ON TO DIFFERENT NEWS. THE RACE IS STARTING TO HEAT UP 10:42.309 --> 10:43.208 THE RACE IS STARTING TO HEAT UP IN HOMESTRETCH. 10:43.210 --> 10:44.709 IN HOMESTRETCH. LEADING TO ELECTION DAY. 10:44.711 --> 10:46.378 LEADING TO ELECTION DAY. LIKELY TO SEE AND HEAR ADS ON 10:46.380 --> 10:47.979 LIKELY TO SEE AND HEAR ADS ON THE RAIDY AND TELEVISION. 10:47.981 --> 10:50.148 THE RAIDY AND TELEVISION. WITH ME, TED ROBBEENS AND 10:50.150 --> 10:50.982 WITH ME, TED ROBBEENS AND CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. 10:50.984 --> 10:53.118 CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. THIS WEEK THE TWO HAVE BEEN 10:53.120 --> 10:54.419 THIS WEEK THE TWO HAVE BEEN DIGGING INTO NUMBERS ASSOCIATED 10:54.421 --> 10:55.320 DIGGING INTO NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS RACE. 10:55.322 --> 11:00.358 WITH THIS RACE. WHY SUDDENLY NOW SO QUICKLY? 11:00.360 --> 11:02.460 WHY SUDDENLY NOW SO QUICKLY? >> BECAUSE OF THE LATEST FEDERAL 11:02.462 --> 11:03.395 >> BECAUSE OF THE LATEST FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION NUMBERS ARE 11:03.397 --> 11:03.662 ELECTION COMMISSION NUMBERS ARE OUT. 11:03.664 --> 11:05.997 OUT. AND THESE, THESE TWO RACES 11:05.999 --> 11:07.866 AND THESE, THESE TWO RACES BEING -- CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 11:07.868 --> 11:08.166 BEING -- CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ONE. 11:08.168 --> 11:10.635 ONE. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO. 11:10.637 --> 11:16.474 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO. THE-- THE PATRICK TOBIN RACE, 11:16.476 --> 11:17.142 THE-- THE PATRICK TOBIN RACE, SALLY/BARBER RACE. 11:17.144 --> 11:19.978 SALLY/BARBER RACE. OUT OF ALL THE HOUSE RACES IN 11:19.980 --> 11:21.212 OUT OF ALL THE HOUSE RACES IN THE COUNTRY. 11:21.214 --> 11:24.416 THE COUNTRY. 435, THERE ARE 21, 21 TREE LATED 11:24.418 --> 11:24.816 435, THERE ARE 21, 21 TREE LATED TOSSUPS. 11:24.818 --> 11:26.217 TOSSUPS. -- RELATED TOSSUPS. 11:26.219 --> 11:28.053 -- RELATED TOSSUPS. THOSE TWO RACES ARE AMONG THOSE. 11:28.055 --> 11:29.487 THOSE TWO RACES ARE AMONG THOSE. YEAH, IN FACT, CHRISTOPHER CAN 11:29.489 --> 11:31.356 YEAH, IN FACT, CHRISTOPHER CAN TALK ABOUT THE MONEY. 11:31.358 --> 11:32.624 TALK ABOUT THE MONEY. THEY'RE ALSO WAY UP THERE. 11:32.626 --> 11:35.293 THEY'RE ALSO WAY UP THERE. BECAUSE THEY'RE TOSSUPS. 11:35.295 --> 11:37.262 BECAUSE THEY'RE TOSSUPS. BOTH, BOTH PARTIES THINK THAT 11:37.264 --> 11:39.097 BOTH, BOTH PARTIES THINK THAT THEY CAN PICK SEAT. 11:39.099 --> 11:40.365 THEY CAN PICK SEAT. >> SEATS THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO 11:40.367 --> 11:40.665 >> SEATS THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE. 11:40.667 --> 11:41.566 LOSE. A LOT OF MONEY. 11:41.568 --> 11:43.201 A LOT OF MONEY. HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING, 11:43.203 --> 11:43.601 HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING, CHRISTOPHER? 11:43.603 --> 11:45.103 CHRISTOPHER? >> IN THE RACES THAT WE ARE 11:45.105 --> 11:45.937 >> IN THE RACES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. 11:45.939 --> 11:47.005 TALKING ABOUT. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ONE. 11:47.007 --> 11:48.106 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ONE. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO. 11:48.108 --> 11:49.541 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO. WHICH COVERS THE VAST MAJORITY 11:49.543 --> 11:52.744 WHICH COVERS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW. 11:52.746 --> 11:54.079 OF THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW. GOING FROM NORTHWEST TUCSON ALL 11:54.081 --> 11:57.382 GOING FROM NORTHWEST TUCSON ALL THE WAY TO THE UTAH BORDER. 11:57.384 --> 11:59.551 THE WAY TO THE UTAH BORDER. FOR CD 1. 11:59.553 --> 12:02.520 FOR CD 1. CD 2 FROM CD 1 BORDER TO THE 12:02.522 --> 12:03.154 CD 2 FROM CD 1 BORDER TO THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER. 12:03.156 --> 12:04.689 U.S./MEXICO BORDER. SO WE ARE TALKING THE WHOLE 12:04.691 --> 12:10.729 SO WE ARE TALKING THE WHOLE EASTERN PART OF ARIZONA. 12:10.731 --> 12:12.163 EASTERN PART OF ARIZONA. THESE TWO RACES ARE SOME OF THE 12:12.165 --> 12:13.832 THESE TWO RACES ARE SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE COUNTRY. 12:13.834 --> 12:15.133 MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE COUNTRY. BOTH MAKE TOP TEN. 12:15.135 --> 12:17.168 BOTH MAKE TOP TEN. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2. 12:17.170 --> 12:18.803 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2. BARBER/SALLY, FOURTH MOST 12:18.805 --> 12:21.906 BARBER/SALLY, FOURTH MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE COUNTRY. 12:21.908 --> 12:23.007 EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE COUNTRY. $11.7 MILLION SPENT. 12:23.009 --> 12:27.178 $11.7 MILLION SPENT. CD 1, THE TOBIN/KIRK PATRICK, 12:27.180 --> 12:28.713 CD 1, THE TOBIN/KIRK PATRICK, SIXTH MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE 12:28.715 --> 12:29.581 SIXTH MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. 12:29.583 --> 12:31.249 COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. >> TED, WHERE DOES THE MONEY 12:31.251 --> 12:31.916 >> TED, WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM? 12:31.918 --> 12:36.020 COME FROM? >> THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD 12:36.022 --> 12:36.654 >> THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD EXPLAIN. 12:36.656 --> 12:38.790 EXPLAIN. TALKING MONEY RAISED BY THE 12:38.792 --> 12:39.190 TALKING MONEY RAISED BY THE CANDIDATES. 12:39.192 --> 12:41.192 CANDIDATES. WE ARE TALKING OUTSIDE MONEY. 12:41.194 --> 12:43.995 WE ARE TALKING OUTSIDE MONEY. AND THAT, THAT MONEY COMES 12:43.997 --> 12:45.563 AND THAT, THAT MONEY COMES FROM -- ESSENTIALLY THREE 12:45.565 --> 12:47.932 FROM -- ESSENTIALLY THREE DIFFERENT PLACES. 12:47.934 --> 12:50.168 DIFFERENT PLACES. PACS, SUPER PACS. 12:50.170 --> 12:54.639 PACS, SUPER PACS. AND, 501-C-4s, SUPPOSEDLY 12:54.641 --> 12:55.907 AND, 501-C-4s, SUPPOSEDLY EDUCATIONAL, ENTITIES. 12:55.909 --> 12:58.409 EDUCATIONAL, ENTITIES. AS DESIGNATED BY THE IRS. 12:58.411 --> 13:02.347 AS DESIGNATED BY THE IRS. THAT'S WHAT IS CALLED DARK 13:02.349 --> 13:02.947 THAT'S WHAT IS CALLED DARK MONEY. 13:02.949 --> 13:04.616 MONEY. WE CAN GO INTO IT A LITTLE MORE. 13:04.618 --> 13:06.317 WE CAN GO INTO IT A LITTLE MORE. SOME ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE. 13:06.319 --> 13:07.952 SOME ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE. PACS ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE 13:07.954 --> 13:09.387 PACS ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE WITH CAMPAIGNS, CORRECT? 13:09.389 --> 13:11.022 WITH CAMPAIGNS, CORRECT? >> YES. 13:11.024 --> 13:12.557 >> YES. SUPER PACS CANNOT COORDINATE 13:12.559 --> 13:14.325 SUPER PACS CANNOT COORDINATE WITH CAMPAIGNS AND HAVE NO 13:14.327 --> 13:19.030 WITH CAMPAIGNS AND HAVE NO FINANCIAL RESTRICTIONS ON THEM. 13:19.032 --> 13:20.265 FINANCIAL RESTRICTIONS ON THEM. THEY CAN RAISE AND SPEND AS MUCH 13:20.267 --> 13:21.099 THEY CAN RAISE AND SPEND AS MUCH AS THEY WANT. 13:21.101 --> 13:23.101 AS THEY WANT. >> WE HAVE SEEN CANDIDATES CALL 13:23.103 --> 13:23.768 >> WE HAVE SEEN CANDIDATES CALL EACH OTHER OUT. 13:23.770 --> 13:25.503 EACH OTHER OUT. TOO MUCH MONEY BEING SPEND. 13:25.505 --> 13:26.538 TOO MUCH MONEY BEING SPEND. WORD LIKE DARK MONEY. 13:26.540 --> 13:28.273 WORD LIKE DARK MONEY. EXPLAIN WHAT THE CONCERN IS? 13:28.275 --> 13:30.542 EXPLAIN WHAT THE CONCERN IS? >> THE CONCERN IS -- THE DARK 13:30.544 --> 13:32.777 >> THE CONCERN IS -- THE DARK MONEY IS WHAT TED WAS TALKING 13:32.779 --> 13:34.312 MONEY IS WHAT TED WAS TALKING ABOUT. 13:34.314 --> 13:35.480 ABOUT. 501 C 4s. 13:35.482 --> 13:40.485 501 C 4s. GROUPS LIKE THE KOCH BROTHERS. 13:40.487 --> 13:43.288 GROUPS LIKE THE KOCH BROTHERS. THEY OPERATE AT THE 501 C 4. 13:43.290 --> 13:45.023 THEY OPERATE AT THE 501 C 4. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL US, THE 13:45.025 --> 13:47.392 THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL US, THE PUBLIC WHO IS GIVING THEM MONEY. 13:47.394 --> 13:52.463 PUBLIC WHO IS GIVING THEM MONEY. THEY JUST REPORT TO THE IRS. 13:52.465 --> 13:54.599 THEY JUST REPORT TO THE IRS. PACS, SUPER PACS HAVE TO FILE 13:54.601 --> 13:56.201 PACS, SUPER PACS HAVE TO FILE MONTHS LATE, EXPENSE REPORTS. 13:56.203 --> 14:00.071 MONTHS LATE, EXPENSE REPORTS. INCLUDE WHO IS GIVING THEM 14:00.073 --> 14:01.739 INCLUDE WHO IS GIVING THEM MONEY. 14:01.741 --> 14:02.473 MONEY. WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE. 14:02.475 --> 14:03.341 WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE. THEIR ADDRESSES. 14:03.343 --> 14:04.075 THEIR ADDRESSES. WHAT THEY DO. 14:04.077 --> 14:05.677 WHAT THEY DO. ANY TEAM YOU OR I GIVE TO A 14:05.679 --> 14:06.411 ANY TEAM YOU OR I GIVE TO A GROUP LOOK THAT. 14:06.413 --> 14:07.846 GROUP LOOK THAT. OR ANY VIEWERS GIVE TO A GROUP 14:07.848 --> 14:08.346 OR ANY VIEWERS GIVE TO A GROUP LIKE THAT. 14:08.348 --> 14:09.881 LIKE THAT. THERE IS A REPORT ON IT. 14:09.883 --> 14:11.149 THERE IS A REPORT ON IT. REPORTERS LIKE TED AND I CAN 14:11.151 --> 14:12.984 REPORTERS LIKE TED AND I CAN GOEN AND LOOK AT THE DATABASE. 14:12.986 --> 14:15.119 GOEN AND LOOK AT THE DATABASE. >> THE SUPER, THE RECALL, 14:15.121 --> 14:17.188 >> THE SUPER, THE RECALL, CITIZENS UNITED DECISION, 14:17.190 --> 14:17.889 CITIZENS UNITED DECISION, CONTROVERSIAL, CONTROVERSIAL 14:17.891 --> 14:19.624 CONTROVERSIAL, CONTROVERSIAL SUPREME COURT DECISION. 14:19.626 --> 14:26.564 SUPREME COURT DECISION. THAT IS -- AFFECTED SUPER PACS. 14:26.566 --> 14:29.767 THAT IS -- AFFECTED SUPER PACS. IT WASN'T MATTER OF WHO WAS 14:29.769 --> 14:30.435 IT WASN'T MATTER OF WHO WAS REPORTING THE MONEY. 14:30.437 --> 14:31.402 REPORTING THE MONEY. THE AMOUNT. 14:31.404 --> 14:34.172 THE AMOUNT. ALLOWS TO GIVE, GIVE -- GIVE A 14:34.174 --> 14:44.616 ALLOWS TO GIVE, GIVE -- GIVE A LOT OF MONEY. 14:44.618 --> 14:47.218 LOT OF MONEY. IN ARIZONA, WE ARE IN UNDATED 14:47.220 --> 14:48.720 IN ARIZONA, WE ARE IN UNDATED WITH ADS. 14:48.722 --> 14:50.889 WITH ADS. CAN YOU NAME ONE, TO GIVE AN 14:50.891 --> 14:52.423 CAN YOU NAME ONE, TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE WHAT WE ARE SEEING. 14:52.425 --> 14:55.827 EXAMPLE WHAT WE ARE SEEING. >> THE 501 C-4 WE HAVE SEEN A 14:55.829 --> 14:57.428 >> THE 501 C-4 WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF ADS IN ALL THE RACES. 14:57.430 --> 14:59.430 NUMBER OF ADS IN ALL THE RACES. THE AD THAT ARE POPPING UP RIGHT 14:59.432 --> 15:00.431 THE AD THAT ARE POPPING UP RIGHT NOW. 15:00.433 --> 15:02.166 NOW. ARE, EITHER DIRECT CAMPAIGN. 15:02.168 --> 15:03.368 ARE, EITHER DIRECT CAMPAIGN. NEWEST ADS THAT WE HAVE SEEN 15:03.370 --> 15:04.869 NEWEST ADS THAT WE HAVE SEEN THIS WEEK, ARE FUNDED DIRECTLY 15:04.871 --> 15:06.571 THIS WEEK, ARE FUNDED DIRECTLY BY THE CAMPAIGNS. 15:06.573 --> 15:09.207 BY THE CAMPAIGNS. OR, BEING FUNDED BY THE PARTIES. 15:09.209 --> 15:11.309 OR, BEING FUNDED BY THE PARTIES. THE NATIONAL -- THE REPUBLICAN 15:11.311 --> 15:11.609 THE NATIONAL -- THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. 15:11.611 --> 15:12.877 PARTY. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. 15:12.879 --> 15:14.312 THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WE KNOW WHO GIVES OFF TO THAT. 15:14.314 --> 15:16.681 WE KNOW WHO GIVES OFF TO THAT. THOSE ARE SUPER PACS AND PACS. 15:16.683 --> 15:17.949 THOSE ARE SUPER PACS AND PACS. WE KNOW WHO GIVES THEM. 15:17.951 --> 15:19.350 WE KNOW WHO GIVES THEM. AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHOSE ARE 15:19.352 --> 15:20.251 AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHOSE ARE RUNNING THE ADS. 15:20.253 --> 15:21.486 RUNNING THE ADS. BIG AD RIGHT NOW. 15:21.488 --> 15:24.722 BIG AD RIGHT NOW. >> THEY SAY IT ON THE AD. 15:24.724 --> 15:27.225 >> THEY SAY IT ON THE AD. IF A CANDIDATE IS SAYING, I AM 15:27.227 --> 15:29.160 IF A CANDIDATE IS SAYING, I AM MARTHA McSALLY, I APPROVE THE 15:29.162 --> 15:29.427 MARTHA McSALLY, I APPROVE THE AD. 15:29.429 --> 15:30.862 AD. IT IS COMING FROM THE CAMPAIGN. 15:30.864 --> 15:32.597 IT IS COMING FROM THE CAMPAIGN. IF IT SAYS THIS AD IS FUNDED BY 15:32.599 --> 15:36.701 IF IT SAYS THIS AD IS FUNDED BY THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL 15:36.703 --> 15:37.702 THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE. 15:37.704 --> 15:39.170 CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE. THEN WE KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS 15:39.172 --> 15:39.837 THEN WE KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM. 15:39.839 --> 15:41.139 COMING FROM. >> WHO ARE THEY REALLY TRYING TO 15:41.141 --> 15:42.140 >> WHO ARE THEY REALLY TRYING TO REACH AT THIS POINT? 15:42.142 --> 15:43.775 REACH AT THIS POINT? WE SAID BALLOTS ARE ALREADY OUT. 15:43.777 --> 15:45.310 WE SAID BALLOTS ARE ALREADY OUT. A FEW DAYS LEFT TO GO. 15:45.312 --> 15:49.347 A FEW DAYS LEFT TO GO. SO, WHAT IS THE INTENT, WHO ARE 15:49.349 --> 15:50.615 SO, WHAT IS THE INTENT, WHO ARE WE TRYING TO REACH HERE? 15:50.617 --> 15:51.883 WE TRYING TO REACH HERE? >> LOGIC TELLS YOU. 15:51.885 --> 15:53.251 >> LOGIC TELLS YOU. NOT JUST TV. 15:53.253 --> 15:55.353 NOT JUST TV. LOOKING ACT A YOUTUBE MUSIC 15:55.355 --> 15:55.653 LOOKING ACT A YOUTUBE MUSIC VIDEO. 15:55.655 --> 15:58.690 VIDEO. UP POPPED AN AD FOR -- FOR, 15:58.692 --> 16:02.460 UP POPPED AN AD FOR -- FOR, MARTHA McSALLY, AGAINST RON 16:02.462 --> 16:03.061 MARTHA McSALLY, AGAINST RON BARBER. 16:03.063 --> 16:14.005 BARBER. SO, THEY SEEM TO BE UBIQUITOUS. 16:14.007 --> 16:15.873 SO, THEY SEEM TO BE UBIQUITOUS. 1/3 REPUBLICAN. 16:15.875 --> 16:17.475 1/3 REPUBLICAN. 1/3 DEMOCRAT. 16:17.477 --> 16:18.543 1/3 DEMOCRAT. 1/3 INDEPENDENT. 16:18.545 --> 16:20.211 1/3 INDEPENDENT. THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH 16:20.213 --> 16:24.248 THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH UNDECIDED VOTERS OR 16:24.250 --> 16:32.357 UNDECIDED VOTERS OR INDEPENDENTS. 16:32.359 --> 16:37.362 INDEPENDENTS. IF YOU DO SOMETHINGEFFECTIVE YO 16:37.364 --> 16:37.829 IF YOU DO SOMETHINGEFFECTIVE YO REACH YOUR BASE. 16:37.831 --> 16:38.863 REACH YOUR BASE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VOTING BY 16:38.865 --> 16:39.197 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VOTING BY MAIL. 16:39.199 --> 16:42.333 MAIL. >> SURE. 16:42.335 --> 16:46.804 >> SURE. CHRIST FER? 16:46.806 --> 16:48.006 CHRIST FER? -- CHRISTOPHER. 16:48.008 --> 16:51.843 -- CHRISTOPHER. >> EARLIER, IN MARICOPA, BALLOTS 16:51.845 --> 16:53.211 >> EARLIER, IN MARICOPA, BALLOTS WERE BACK, READY TO BE COUNTED 16:53.213 --> 16:54.345 WERE BACK, READY TO BE COUNTED ON ELECTION NIGHT. 16:54.347 --> 16:57.982 ON ELECTION NIGHT. IN MARICOPA, THE NUMBER IS IN 16:57.984 --> 16:59.951 IN MARICOPA, THE NUMBER IS IN THE HIGH TEENS, AS OF THIS WEEK. 16:59.953 --> 17:03.054 THE HIGH TEENS, AS OF THIS WEEK. OFFICIALS SAY WE ARE IN THE 17:03.056 --> 17:04.822 OFFICIALS SAY WE ARE IN THE QUIET, PEOPLE GOT THEIR BALLOTS. 17:04.824 --> 17:05.656 QUIET, PEOPLE GOT THEIR BALLOTS. VOTED SENT THEM BACK. 17:05.658 --> 17:07.458 VOTED SENT THEM BACK. THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE 17:07.460 --> 17:08.893 THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE UNDECIDED OR MAYBE JUST HAVEN'T 17:08.895 --> 17:10.361 UNDECIDED OR MAYBE JUST HAVEN'T SENT THEM BACK YET. 17:10.363 --> 17:11.929 SENT THEM BACK YET. THAT'S WHO THOSE ADS ARE 17:11.931 --> 17:12.296 THAT'S WHO THOSE ADS ARE TARGETING. 17:12.298 --> 17:13.765 TARGETING. THOSE EARLY BALLOTS THAT ARE 17:13.767 --> 17:14.032 THOSE EARLY BALLOTS THAT ARE OUT. 17:14.034 --> 17:15.500 OUT. THEN THERE ARE THE UNDECIDED 17:15.502 --> 17:15.833 THEN THERE ARE THE UNDECIDED VOTERS. 17:15.835 --> 17:17.268 VOTERS. AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL, 17:17.270 --> 17:18.770 AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL, BECOMING A SMALLER, SMALLER 17:18.772 --> 17:21.172 BECOMING A SMALLER, SMALLER NUMBER WILL GO TO THE POLLS ON 17:21.174 --> 17:21.906 NUMBER WILL GO TO THE POLLS ON ELECTION DAY. 17:21.908 --> 17:23.074 ELECTION DAY. 11 DAYS FROM NOW. 17:23.076 --> 17:23.908 11 DAYS FROM NOW. >> OKAY. 17:23.910 --> 17:25.043 >> OKAY. TED, I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST 17:25.045 --> 17:25.676 TED, I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD ON THIS. 17:25.678 --> 17:27.045 WORD ON THIS. IT COMES DONE TO MONEY. 17:27.047 --> 17:28.312 IT COMES DONE TO MONEY. WE ARE HEARING THAT EVERY YEAR 17:28.314 --> 17:29.680 WE ARE HEARING THAT EVERY YEAR WE ARE SPENDING MORE AND MORE ON 17:29.682 --> 17:30.548 WE ARE SPENDING MORE AND MORE ON THE CAMPAIGNS. 17:30.550 --> 17:34.352 THE CAMPAIGNS. HOW MUCH DOES MONEY REALLY PLAY 17:34.354 --> 17:40.525 HOW MUCH DOES MONEY REALLY PLAY A ROLE? 17:40.527 --> 17:42.593 A ROLE? THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF RACES. 17:42.595 --> 17:45.763 THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF RACES. A MATTER OF SPENDING 17:45.765 --> 17:46.164 A MATTER OF SPENDING EFFECTIVELY. 17:46.166 --> 17:46.898 EFFECTIVELY. I DON'T KNOW THAT, WHAT, THIS IS 17:46.900 --> 17:50.835 I DON'T KNOW THAT, WHAT, THIS IS WITHIN OF THOSE, LET'S SEE WHO 17:50.837 --> 17:51.135 WITHIN OF THOSE, LET'S SEE WHO WINS. 17:51.137 --> 17:52.103 WINS. IN THE CASE OF THE TWO 17:52.105 --> 17:53.304 IN THE CASE OF THE TWO CONGRESSIONAL RACES, BOTH SIDES 17:53.306 --> 17:55.573 CONGRESSIONAL RACES, BOTH SIDES ARE SPENDING -- HUGE AMOUNTS OF 17:55.575 --> 17:59.310 ARE SPENDING -- HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR -- AND AGAINST. 17:59.312 --> 18:02.013 MONEY FOR -- AND AGAINST. SO IT COMES DOWN TO -- 18:02.015 --> 18:03.081 SO IT COMES DOWN TO -- ADVERTISING IN GENERAL. 18:03.083 --> 18:04.849 ADVERTISING IN GENERAL. IF ADVERTISING IS UNANSWERED. 18:04.851 --> 18:06.284 IF ADVERTISING IS UNANSWERED. IT TEND TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE 18:06.286 --> 18:09.053 IT TEND TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN IF IT IS, IF SOMEBODY, IF 18:09.055 --> 18:11.656 THAN IF IT IS, IF SOMEBODY, IF THE OTHER SIDE ANSWERS IT. 18:11.658 --> 18:16.060 THE OTHER SIDE ANSWERS IT. SO IT COULDEN END OF BEING AN 18:16.062 --> 18:17.762 SO IT COULDEN END OF BEING AN EXPENSIVE WASH OR COULD END UP, 18:17.764 --> 18:19.197 EXPENSIVE WASH OR COULD END UP, SEEING TWO VERY CLOSE RACES. 18:19.199 --> 18:20.031 SEEING TWO VERY CLOSE RACES. >> TIME WILL TELL. 18:20.033 --> 18:24.335 >> TIME WILL TELL. WE WILL KNOW THAT SHORTLY. 18:24.337 --> 18:26.537 WE WILL KNOW THAT SHORTLY. TED ROBBINS, CHRISTOPHER 18:26.539 --> 18:26.871 TED ROBBINS, CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. 18:26.873 --> 18:27.738 CONOVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 18:27.740 --> 18:29.107 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHRISTOPHER, WE WILL SEE YOU IN 18:29.109 --> 18:30.174 CHRISTOPHER, WE WILL SEE YOU IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. 18:30.176 --> 18:32.210 JUST A FEW MINUTES. >> THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE, 18:32.212 --> 18:32.877 >> THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE, CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. 18:32.879 --> 18:34.312 CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WE HAVE 18:34.314 --> 18:35.980 IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WE HAVE BEEN FEATURING CLIPS FROM 18:35.982 --> 18:39.550 BEEN FEATURING CLIPS FROM DEBATES HELD AT SISTER NATION, 18:39.552 --> 18:42.353 DEBATES HELD AT SISTER NATION, IN PHOENIX, KAET, SECRETARY OF 18:42.355 --> 18:43.988 IN PHOENIX, KAET, SECRETARY OF STATE AND PUBLIC INSTRUCTION. 18:43.990 --> 18:46.557 STATE AND PUBLIC INSTRUCTION. WHO IS IN THAT RACE? 18:46.559 --> 18:50.361 WHO IS IN THAT RACE? PUBLIC IN TRUSTRUCTIOINSTRUCTIO. 18:50.363 --> 18:52.763 PUBLIC IN TRUSTRUCTIOINSTRUCTIO. AND THE ISSUE, BOILS DOWN TO ONE 18:52.765 --> 18:53.064 AND THE ISSUE, BOILS DOWN TO ONE THING. 18:53.066 --> 18:53.664 THING. COMMON CORE. 18:53.666 --> 18:55.533 COMMON CORE. WHETHER YOU SUPPORT IT OR DON'T. 18:55.535 --> 18:57.001 WHETHER YOU SUPPORT IT OR DON'T. HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT COMMON CORE 18:57.003 --> 18:58.469 HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT COMMON CORE IS HOW YOU WILL VOTE IN THIS 18:58.471 --> 18:58.903 IS HOW YOU WILL VOTE IN THIS RACE. 18:58.905 --> 19:04.142 RACE. >> WELL SHOULD CLAIRE CLAIRRIFY. 19:04.144 --> 19:05.109 >> WELL SHOULD CLAIRE CLAIRRIFY. AND IT IS KNOWN AS COMMON CORE. 19:05.111 --> 19:07.044 AND IT IS KNOWN AS COMMON CORE. IT IS AN ISSUE OF CONTENTION IN 19:07.046 --> 19:11.349 IT IS AN ISSUE OF CONTENTION IN THAT DEBATE. 19:11.351 --> 19:13.017 THAT DEBATE. WE HAVE STANDARD THAT WE CAN'T 19:13.019 --> 19:13.351 WE HAVE STANDARD THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL. 19:13.353 --> 19:14.118 CONTROL. WE CAN'T CHANGE. 19:14.120 --> 19:15.286 WE CAN'T CHANGE. OR WE CAN'T MAKE SURE THEY WORK 19:15.288 --> 19:16.053 OR WE CAN'T MAKE SURE THEY WORK FOR ARIZONA. 19:16.055 --> 19:17.588 FOR ARIZONA. THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR 19:17.590 --> 19:20.858 THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR ARIZONA EDUCATION. 19:20.860 --> 19:22.059 ARIZONA EDUCATION. >> EVEN MY, EVEN WITHIN MY, 19:22.061 --> 19:23.127 >> EVEN MY, EVEN WITHIN MY, WITHIN MY OPPONENT'S PARTY. 19:23.129 --> 19:24.962 WITHIN MY OPPONENT'S PARTY. HER POSITION IS EXTREME. 19:24.964 --> 19:26.764 HER POSITION IS EXTREME. AND, FOLKS ARE READY TO 19:26.766 --> 19:28.065 AND, FOLKS ARE READY TO IMPLEMENT, THE HIGH ACADEMIC 19:28.067 --> 19:29.367 IMPLEMENT, THE HIGH ACADEMIC STANDARDS IN THE WAY THAT IT IS 19:29.369 --> 19:32.870 STANDARDS IN THE WAY THAT IT IS BEST FOR ARIZONA. 19:32.872 --> 19:35.473 BEST FOR ARIZONA. STATES DEVIL OF TUC DEVELOP THE. 19:35.475 --> 19:36.641 STATES DEVIL OF TUC DEVELOP THE. STATES CAN CHANGE THEM. 19:36.643 --> 19:38.242 STATES CAN CHANGE THEM. I AM READY TO BE IN POSITION. 19:38.244 --> 19:40.511 I AM READY TO BE IN POSITION. A NATIONAL LEADER TO MAKE SURE, 19:40.513 --> 19:42.079 A NATIONAL LEADER TO MAKE SURE, THAT OUR ACADEMIC STANDARD WORK 19:42.081 --> 19:43.281 THAT OUR ACADEMIC STANDARD WORK BEST FOR ARIZONA. 19:43.283 --> 19:45.249 BEST FOR ARIZONA. >> NOW, DIANE DOUGLAS SAYS THAT 19:45.251 --> 19:47.451 >> NOW, DIANE DOUGLAS SAYS THAT THIS IS A, TOO MUCH OF A FEDERAL 19:47.453 --> 19:47.952 THIS IS A, TOO MUCH OF A FEDERAL OVERREACH. 19:47.954 --> 19:50.521 OVERREACH. DAVID GARCIA, WHO IS Ph.D. IN 19:50.523 --> 19:52.757 DAVID GARCIA, WHO IS Ph.D. IN EDUCATION HAS A LONG HISTORY IN 19:52.759 --> 19:53.124 EDUCATION HAS A LONG HISTORY IN EDUCATION. 19:53.126 --> 19:57.228 EDUCATION. SAYS THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT THE 19:57.230 --> 19:58.462 SAYS THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT THE WAY HE SEES IT. 19:58.464 --> 19:59.964 WAY HE SEES IT. >> THIS AGAIN IS THE CORE ISSUE 19:59.966 --> 20:01.832 >> THIS AGAIN IS THE CORE ISSUE OF THE RACE. 20:01.834 --> 20:03.868 OF THE RACE. IT IS INTERESTING WHEN HE SAYS 20:03.870 --> 20:05.870 IT IS INTERESTING WHEN HE SAYS THAT, DOUGLAS' POSITION IS 20:05.872 --> 20:06.204 THAT, DOUGLAS' POSITION IS EXTREME. 20:06.206 --> 20:07.371 EXTREME. EVEN IN HER OWN PARTY. 20:07.373 --> 20:09.040 EVEN IN HER OWN PARTY. BECAUSE HE IS PICKING UP 20:09.042 --> 20:13.177 BECAUSE HE IS PICKING UP REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENTS IN THIS 20:13.179 --> 20:13.477 REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENTS IN THIS RACE. 20:13.479 --> 20:15.313 RACE. AND ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA. 20:15.315 --> 20:17.048 AND ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA. REPUBLICANS, CROSSING OVER, AND 20:17.050 --> 20:18.449 REPUBLICANS, CROSSING OVER, AND ENDORSING DEMOCRATS IN THE 20:18.451 --> 20:19.083 ENDORSING DEMOCRATS IN THE STATEWIDE RACES. 20:19.085 --> 20:20.785 STATEWIDE RACES. SURE WE SEE IT FROM TIME TO 20:20.787 --> 20:21.085 SURE WE SEE IT FROM TIME TO TIME. 20:21.087 --> 20:22.119 TIME. AND, IN THE RACES. 20:22.121 --> 20:23.254 AND, IN THE RACES. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE 20:23.256 --> 20:24.021 BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN THIS YEAR. 20:24.023 --> 20:25.323 SEEN THIS YEAR. AND THIS HAS BEEN THE RACE WHERE 20:25.325 --> 20:27.425 AND THIS HAS BEEN THE RACE WHERE IT HAS BEEN MOST NOTABLE. 20:27.427 --> 20:29.260 IT HAS BEEN MOST NOTABLE. >> VERY FIERCE DEBATE IN THIS, 20:29.262 --> 20:31.162 >> VERY FIERCE DEBATE IN THIS, IN THIS RACE, IS, WHY HAVEN'T 20:31.164 --> 20:32.597 IN THIS RACE, IS, WHY HAVEN'T THEY DEBATED EACH OTHER MORE 20:32.599 --> 20:33.531 THEY DEBATED EACH OTHER MORE FREX WENTLY. 20:33.533 --> 20:36.133 FREX WENTLY. WE ALSO ARE NOT VERY MANY 20:36.135 --> 20:36.534 WE ALSO ARE NOT VERY MANY PRECEDENTS. 20:36.536 --> 20:38.502 PRECEDENTS. DIANE DOUGLAS. 20:38.504 --> 20:40.571 DIANE DOUGLAS. DAVID GARCIA, EASILY AVAILABLE 20:40.573 --> 20:41.305 DAVID GARCIA, EASILY AVAILABLE TO THE PRESS. 20:41.307 --> 20:43.007 TO THE PRESS. WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO 20:43.009 --> 20:44.108 WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. 20:44.110 --> 20:45.910 ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. >> WE HAVE TRIED TO SET UP SOME 20:45.912 --> 20:46.244 >> WE HAVE TRIED TO SET UP SOME THINGS. 20:46.246 --> 20:49.547 THINGS. DOWN HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 20:49.549 --> 20:50.514 DOWN HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. WITH BOTH CANDIDATES. 20:50.516 --> 20:51.749 WITH BOTH CANDIDATES. HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE 20:51.751 --> 20:53.784 HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE REPUBLICAN DIANE DOUGLAS IN. 20:53.786 --> 20:55.753 REPUBLICAN DIANE DOUGLAS IN. ONE OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO 20:55.755 --> 20:57.788 ONE OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO APPEARED ON THIS SHOW, SHE 20:57.790 --> 21:00.825 APPEARED ON THIS SHOW, SHE COVERS EDUCATION, SHE HAS HAD 21:00.827 --> 21:01.158 COVERS EDUCATION, SHE HAS HAD TROUBLE. 21:01.160 --> 21:02.560 TROUBLE. THIS IS -- HAS BEEN AN ISSUE 21:02.562 --> 21:04.362 THIS IS -- HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH REPUBLICANS ON A NUMBER OF 21:04.364 --> 21:06.097 WITH REPUBLICANS ON A NUMBER OF THINGS HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 21:06.099 --> 21:07.565 THINGS HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. WE TRIED TO SET UP SOME DEBATES 21:07.567 --> 21:08.966 WE TRIED TO SET UP SOME DEBATES AND THINGS AND JUST COULDN'T GET 21:08.968 --> 21:11.035 AND THINGS AND JUST COULDN'T GET THE REPUBLICANS TO COME IN. 21:11.037 --> 21:12.436 THE REPUBLICANS TO COME IN. THERE WERE DEBATES HELD BY OTHER 21:12.438 --> 21:14.338 THERE WERE DEBATES HELD BY OTHER GROUPS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA OR 21:14.340 --> 21:15.773 GROUPS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA OR PLANNED BY OTHER GROUPS IN 21:15.775 --> 21:20.344 PLANNED BY OTHER GROUPS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 21:20.346 --> 21:23.080 SOUTHERN ARIZONA. FOR EXAM PUPLE, HOPING TO HAVE E 21:23.082 --> 21:26.083 FOR EXAM PUPLE, HOPING TO HAVE E THAN ONE GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE 21:26.085 --> 21:26.450 THAN ONE GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE DOWN HERE. 21:26.452 --> 21:28.486 DOWN HERE. WE ONLY HAD ONE DEBATE WHERE ALL 21:28.488 --> 21:29.253 WE ONLY HAD ONE DEBATE WHERE ALL CANDIDATES APPEARED. 21:29.255 --> 21:31.422 CANDIDATES APPEARED. >> THERE IS TALK IN LOCAL 21:31.424 --> 21:33.057 >> THERE IS TALK IN LOCAL CIRCLES, REPUBLICANS ARE BOWING 21:33.059 --> 21:34.158 CIRCLES, REPUBLICANS ARE BOWING OUT OF SOME DEBATES. 21:34.160 --> 21:37.161 OUT OF SOME DEBATES. DEMOCRATS ARE ANXIOUS TO DEEP 21:37.163 --> 21:37.862 DEMOCRATS ARE ANXIOUS TO DEEP BADEEP 21:37.864 --> 21:39.830 BADEEP -- TO DEBATE THE ISSUES. 21:39.832 --> 21:41.265 -- TO DEBATE THE ISSUES. >> THERE HAS BEEN THE TALK. 21:41.267 --> 21:43.034 >> THERE HAS BEEN THE TALK. NOT DOING DEBATES IS A SAFE 21:43.036 --> 21:43.401 NOT DOING DEBATES IS A SAFE STRATEGY. 21:43.403 --> 21:44.402 STRATEGY. YOU CAN'T GET YOURSELF IN 21:44.404 --> 21:45.269 YOU CAN'T GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE SAYING SOMETHING IF YOU 21:45.271 --> 21:48.105 TROUBLE SAYING SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T APPEAR. 21:48.107 --> 21:50.374 DON'T APPEAR. IT'S A TWO-EDGED SWORD. 21:50.376 --> 21:51.942 IT'S A TWO-EDGED SWORD. WE ARE CERTAINLY SEEING PLENTY 21:51.944 --> 21:55.479 WE ARE CERTAINLY SEEING PLENTY OF THE REPUBLICAN MESSAGE VIA 21:55.481 --> 22:01.285 OF THE REPUBLICAN MESSAGE VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, VIA TELEVISION, 22:01.287 --> 22:03.020 SOCIAL MEDIA, VIA TELEVISION, ADVERTISING, MY AMAILBOXES FILLD 22:03.022 --> 22:04.355 ADVERTISING, MY AMAILBOXES FILLD UP WITH ADVERTISING BOTH SIDE 22:04.357 --> 22:04.889 UP WITH ADVERTISING BOTH SIDE ALL THE TIME. 22:04.891 --> 22:06.524 ALL THE TIME. WE ARE SEEING THEIR MESSAGES 22:06.526 --> 22:06.857 WE ARE SEEING THEIR MESSAGES PLENTY. 22:06.859 --> 22:09.493 PLENTY. WE ARE JUST NOT SEEING THEM IN 22:09.495 --> 22:09.894 WE ARE JUST NOT SEEING THEM IN PERSON. 22:09.896 --> 22:11.696 PERSON. IT IS WHAT WE THINK OF AS 22:11.698 --> 22:12.930 IT IS WHAT WE THINK OF AS TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN EVENTS. 22:12.932 --> 22:13.964 TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN EVENTS. THEY'RE HERE. 22:13.966 --> 22:15.466 THEY'RE HERE. THEY ARE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 22:15.468 --> 22:16.567 THEY ARE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE STATE. 22:16.569 --> 22:18.169 THEY'RE ALL OVER THE STATE. BUT IT IS SMALL EVENTS. 22:18.171 --> 22:20.871 BUT IT IS SMALL EVENTS. BUT NOT THE BIG, WHAT WE THINK 22:20.873 --> 22:22.440 BUT NOT THE BIG, WHAT WE THINK OF AS TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN 22:22.442 --> 22:22.773 OF AS TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN EVENTS. 22:22.775 --> 22:23.474 EVENTS. >> OKAY. 22:23.476 --> 22:24.842 >> OKAY. AS TO BE EXPECTED. 22:24.844 --> 22:27.144 AS TO BE EXPECTED. DAVID GARCIA DID CALL OUT DIANE 22:27.146 --> 22:28.546 DAVID GARCIA DID CALL OUT DIANE DOUGLAS IN THE DEBATE IN 22:28.548 --> 22:28.979 DOUGLAS IN THE DEBATE IN PHOENIX. 22:28.981 --> 22:31.582 PHOENIX. LET'S LISTEN TO THAT NOW. 22:31.584 --> 22:33.617 LET'S LISTEN TO THAT NOW. >> WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT 22:33.619 --> 22:35.886 >> WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MY OPPONENT WOULD LIKE MY 22:35.888 --> 22:36.987 WHAT MY OPPONENT WOULD LIKE MY CAMPAIGN SCHEDULE TO BE. 22:36.989 --> 22:39.056 CAMPAIGN SCHEDULE TO BE. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT 22:39.058 --> 22:39.523 I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. 22:39.525 --> 22:41.292 EDUCATION. >> CAMPAIGN SCHEDULES ONE 22:41.294 --> 22:41.826 >> CAMPAIGN SCHEDULES ONE SECOND, TED. 22:41.828 --> 22:43.427 SECOND, TED. FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, FIVE 22:43.429 --> 22:44.729 FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, FIVE DEBATES IN FOUR PARTIES. 22:44.731 --> 22:49.667 DEBATES IN FOUR PARTIES. A FOUR PARTY, PINAL, IN 22:49.669 --> 22:50.701 A FOUR PARTY, PINAL, IN MARICOPA, UNIVERSITY WOMEN 22:50.703 --> 22:52.069 MARICOPA, UNIVERSITY WOMEN DEBATE, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS 22:52.071 --> 22:55.606 DEBATE, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS IN TUCSON, AND, A DEBATE IN 22:55.608 --> 22:55.973 IN TUCSON, AND, A DEBATE IN MARICOPA. 22:55.975 --> 22:57.174 MARICOPA. I HAVE CONFIRMED MY ATTENDANCE 22:57.176 --> 22:58.209 I HAVE CONFIRMED MY ATTENDANCE TO EVERY ONE. 22:58.211 --> 22:59.610 TO EVERY ONE. AND ASKING MY OPPONENT TO DO THE 22:59.612 --> 22:59.910 AND ASKING MY OPPONENT TO DO THE SAME. 22:59.912 --> 23:03.948 SAME. >> I AM NOT, SIR, ALLOWING YOU 23:03.950 --> 23:04.782 >> I AM NOT, SIR, ALLOWING YOU TO RUN MY CAMPAIGN. 23:04.784 --> 23:07.218 TO RUN MY CAMPAIGN. I THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BE MY 23:07.220 --> 23:07.585 I THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BE MY SCHEDULER. 23:07.587 --> 23:09.653 SCHEDULER. I HAVE A CAPABLE, WONDERFUL 23:09.655 --> 23:10.521 I HAVE A CAPABLE, WONDERFUL WOMAN DOING THAT. 23:10.523 --> 23:12.189 WOMAN DOING THAT. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT 23:12.191 --> 23:12.556 I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. 23:12.558 --> 23:15.059 EDUCATION. >> OKAY. 23:15.061 --> 23:17.528 >> OKAY. OKAY, PRETTY NASTY EXCHANGE. 23:17.530 --> 23:22.066 OKAY, PRETTY NASTY EXCHANGE. FOR THOSE VOTERS AT HOME WITH 23:22.068 --> 23:23.100 FOR THOSE VOTERS AT HOME WITH BAL LOT 23:23.102 --> 23:24.668 BAL LOT BALLOTS, PLANNING TO HEAD TO THE 23:24.670 --> 23:25.536 BALLOTS, PLANNING TO HEAD TO THE ELECTION POLLING PLACE, DOES 23:25.538 --> 23:26.871 ELECTION POLLING PLACE, DOES THAT IMPACT THE WAY THEY FEEL 23:26.873 --> 23:27.772 THAT IMPACT THE WAY THEY FEEL ABOUT THE RACE? 23:27.774 --> 23:29.073 ABOUT THE RACE? >> THAT IS REALLY TOUGH OFF TO 23:29.075 --> 23:29.373 >> THAT IS REALLY TOUGH OFF TO GAUGE. 23:29.375 --> 23:33.377 GAUGE. LIKE I SAID THERE IS INFORMATION 23:33.379 --> 23:34.812 LIKE I SAID THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. 23:34.814 --> 23:38.182 OUT THERE. THE NEWSPAPERS IN THE STATE 23:38.184 --> 23:39.350 THE NEWSPAPERS IN THE STATE HATCH WRHAVE 23:39.352 --> 23:40.017 HATCH WRHAVE WRITTEN STORIES ON ALL THE 23:40.019 --> 23:40.317 WRITTEN STORIES ON ALL THE RACES. 23:40.319 --> 23:41.085 RACES. WE COVERED ALL THE RACES. 23:41.087 --> 23:45.689 WE COVERED ALL THE RACES. THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. 23:45.691 --> 23:46.791 THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. HOPEFULLY PEOPLE DON'T GET 23:46.793 --> 23:47.992 HOPEFULLY PEOPLE DON'T GET INFORMATION FROM TV AD OR 23:47.994 --> 23:48.793 INFORMATION FROM TV AD OR MAILERS THAT SHOW UP. 23:48.795 --> 23:52.830 MAILERS THAT SHOW UP. BUT THERE IS INFORMATION OUT 23:52.832 --> 23:56.734 BUT THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. 23:56.736 --> 23:57.902 THERE. AND THE REPUBLICANS THEY VOTE 23:57.904 --> 23:59.003 AND THE REPUBLICANS THEY VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICANS. 23:59.005 --> 24:00.070 FOR THE REPUBLICANS. THE DEMOCRATS THEY STROELT FOR 24:00.072 --> 24:01.272 THE DEMOCRATS THEY STROELT FOR THE DEMOCRAT. 24:01.274 --> 24:03.140 THE DEMOCRAT. SO, THE LACK OF INFORMATION -- 24:03.142 --> 24:04.942 SO, THE LACK OF INFORMATION -- THE LACK OF DEBATES, NOT EVEN A 24:04.944 --> 24:06.911 THE LACK OF DEBATES, NOT EVEN A LACK OF INFORMATION, THE LACK OF 24:06.913 --> 24:08.779 LACK OF INFORMATION, THE LACK OF DEBATES, MAY NOT BE QUITE THE 24:08.781 --> 24:10.014 DEBATES, MAY NOT BE QUITE THE ISSUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. 24:10.016 --> 24:12.316 ISSUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT IS OUR JOB TO TALK TO -- TO 24:12.318 --> 24:13.384 IT IS OUR JOB TO TALK TO -- TO THESE CANDIDATES. 24:13.386 --> 24:14.952 THESE CANDIDATES. AND, IF WEAVE CAN'T TALK TO THEM 24:14.954 --> 24:16.921 AND, IF WEAVE CAN'T TALK TO THEM AS READILY AS WE WOULD LOOK TO. 24:16.923 --> 24:18.189 AS READILY AS WE WOULD LOOK TO. SOMETIMES THAT CAN BEEP 24:18.191 --> 24:18.656 SOMETIMES THAT CAN BEEP FRUSTRATING. 24:18.658 --> 24:20.524 FRUSTRATING. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO SECRETARY OF 24:20.526 --> 24:21.058 >> LET'S MOVE ON TO SECRETARY OF STATE RACE. 24:21.060 --> 24:24.028 STATE RACE. THERE WE HAVE DEMOCRATS, HARRY 24:24.030 --> 24:25.396 THERE WE HAVE DEMOCRATS, HARRY GODDARD, FACING A REPUBLICAN. 24:25.398 --> 24:27.531 GODDARD, FACING A REPUBLICAN. TERRY GODDARD. 24:27.533 --> 24:28.666 TERRY GODDARD. FAMILIAR IN THE POLITICAL SCENE 24:28.668 --> 24:29.333 FAMILIAR IN THE POLITICAL SCENE IN ARIZONA. 24:29.335 --> 24:31.101 IN ARIZONA. THIS DEBATE HELD NOT TOO LONG 24:31.103 --> 24:31.936 THIS DEBATE HELD NOT TOO LONG AGO. 24:31.938 --> 24:33.170 AGO. LET'S TUNE INTO THAT NOW. 24:33.172 --> 24:35.673 LET'S TUNE INTO THAT NOW. >> I BELIEF I AM QUALIFIED TO DO 24:35.675 --> 24:40.311 >> I BELIEF I AM QUALIFIED TO DO WHEREVER I -- END UP SERVING. 24:40.313 --> 24:41.545 WHEREVER I -- END UP SERVING. I WRIL, WHENEVER I AM CALLED ON 24:41.547 --> 24:42.413 I WRIL, WHENEVER I AM CALLED ON TO SERVE. 24:42.415 --> 24:43.814 TO SERVE. I WILL BE QUALIFIED. 24:43.816 --> 24:45.649 I WILL BE QUALIFIED. GIVEN ALL THE EXPERIENCE IN THE 24:45.651 --> 24:46.050 GIVEN ALL THE EXPERIENCE IN THE LEGISLATURE. 24:46.052 --> 24:47.618 LEGISLATURE. THEN ALSO MY PRIVATE SECTOR 24:47.620 --> 24:48.018 THEN ALSO MY PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE. 24:48.020 --> 24:49.353 EXPERIENCE. I HAVE HAD GROWING A FAMILY 24:49.355 --> 24:50.588 I HAVE HAD GROWING A FAMILY BUSINESS BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. 24:50.590 --> 24:52.223 BUSINESS BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. >> THAT INCLUDES GOVERNOR OF 24:52.225 --> 24:52.556 >> THAT INCLUDES GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA? 24:52.558 --> 24:53.524 ARIZONA? >> ABSOLUTELY. 24:53.526 --> 24:58.562 >> ABSOLUTELY. IF I WAS, CALLED ON TO SERVE AS 24:58.564 --> 24:58.996 IF I WAS, CALLED ON TO SERVE AS GOVERNOR. 24:58.998 --> 25:00.164 GOVERNOR. I WOULD BE JUST FINE. 25:00.166 --> 25:00.998 I WOULD BE JUST FINE. IT WOULD BE TOUGH. 25:01.000 --> 25:02.399 IT WOULD BE TOUGH. I WOULD BE FINE. 25:02.401 --> 25:04.134 I WOULD BE FINE. DRAW ON ALL THE EXPERIENCE I HAD 25:04.136 --> 25:05.503 DRAW ON ALL THE EXPERIENCE I HAD WALKING THE HALLS OF THE 25:05.505 --> 25:06.604 WALKING THE HALLS OF THE CAPITOL, GROWING A SMALL 25:06.606 --> 25:06.971 CAPITOL, GROWING A SMALL BUSINESS. 25:06.973 --> 25:08.606 BUSINESS. >> ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO BE 25:08.608 --> 25:09.507 >> ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO BE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA? 25:09.509 --> 25:11.275 GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA? >> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE I AM. 25:11.277 --> 25:13.777 >> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE I AM. >> HOW COME? 25:13.779 --> 25:16.080 >> HOW COME? >> AS MAYOR UNFORTUNAOF PHOENIX 25:16.082 --> 25:17.548 >> AS MAYOR UNFORTUNAOF PHOENIX MEET A BUDGET, WORK WITH 25:17.550 --> 25:18.582 MEET A BUDGET, WORK WITH COUNCIL, PUT TOGETHER A 25:18.584 --> 25:19.316 COUNCIL, PUT TOGETHER A DIFFICULT SITUATION. 25:19.318 --> 25:19.984 DIFFICULT SITUATION. MADE IT WORK. 25:19.986 --> 25:21.752 MADE IT WORK. AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, I 25:21.754 --> 25:22.753 AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, I REPRESENTED ALL AGENCIES BUT 25:22.755 --> 25:23.921 REPRESENTED ALL AGENCIES BUT FIVE IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT. 25:23.923 --> 25:25.422 FIVE IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT. I KNOW THE INNERMOST THOUGHTS. 25:25.424 --> 25:26.790 I KNOW THE INNERMOST THOUGHTS. AND I KNOW THEIR PROBLEMS. 25:26.792 --> 25:28.959 AND I KNOW THEIR PROBLEMS. AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL 25:28.961 --> 25:29.426 AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL RESPONSIBILITY. 25:29.428 --> 25:30.761 RESPONSIBILITY. I HAD TO MEET A BUDGET. 25:30.763 --> 25:32.162 I HAD TO MEET A BUDGET. IT IS A CHALLENGE. 25:32.164 --> 25:33.364 IT IS A CHALLENGE. BUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING 25:33.366 --> 25:34.932 BUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME IS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS 25:34.934 --> 25:36.834 FOR ME IS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A STATE THAT IS IN SERIOUS 25:36.836 --> 25:37.167 A STATE THAT IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE. 25:37.169 --> 25:38.435 TROUBLE. IN TROUBLE BECAUSE IT IS 25:38.437 --> 25:40.504 IN TROUBLE BECAUSE IT IS ELECTION SYSTEM IS, IS IN DECAY. 25:40.506 --> 25:41.438 ELECTION SYSTEM IS, IS IN DECAY. IT IS IN COLLAPSE. 25:41.440 --> 25:42.573 IT IS IN COLLAPSE. AND WE NEED TO FIX IT. 25:42.575 --> 25:45.209 AND WE NEED TO FIX IT. SO THAT'S THE FOCUS FOR ME. 25:45.211 --> 25:46.977 SO THAT'S THE FOCUS FOR ME. >> LORAIN, SOME PEOPLE MAY BE 25:46.979 --> 25:48.279 >> LORAIN, SOME PEOPLE MAY BE CONFUSED WHY ARE SECRETARY OF 25:48.281 --> 25:49.747 CONFUSED WHY ARE SECRETARY OF STATE CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT 25:49.749 --> 25:50.347 STATE CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT BEING GOVERNMENT NORTH. 25:50.349 --> 25:52.316 BEING GOVERNMENT NORTH. IN ARIZONA WE DON'T HAVE A 25:52.318 --> 25:52.850 IN ARIZONA WE DON'T HAVE A LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR. 25:52.852 --> 25:54.285 LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR. IF THE GOVERNOR CANNOT FINISH, 25:54.287 --> 25:56.186 IF THE GOVERNOR CANNOT FINISH, IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE HIS 25:56.188 --> 26:00.791 IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE HIS TERM, THE SECRETARY OF STATE 26:00.793 --> 26:01.225 TERM, THE SECRETARY OF STATE WILL STEP IN. 26:01.227 --> 26:04.795 WILL STEP IN. WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS 26:04.797 --> 26:05.095 WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS RACE. 26:05.097 --> 26:06.463 RACE. AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS ASKED. 26:06.465 --> 26:08.132 AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS ASKED. AND IT WAS ASKED OF THEM A 26:08.134 --> 26:08.899 AND IT WAS ASKED OF THEM A NUMBER OF TIMES. 26:08.901 --> 26:11.168 NUMBER OF TIMES. WHEN WE WORKED WITH THEM. 26:11.170 --> 26:12.836 WHEN WE WORKED WITH THEM. WE ASKED THOSE EXACT SAME 26:12.838 --> 26:13.437 WE ASKED THOSE EXACT SAME QUESTIONS. 26:13.439 --> 26:14.805 QUESTIONS. >> SOME ANALYSTS HAVE LOOKED AT 26:14.807 --> 26:16.674 >> SOME ANALYSTS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS DEBATE AND THOUGHT THAT 26:16.676 --> 26:18.509 THIS DEBATE AND THOUGHT THAT MAYBE MICHELLE DIDN'T COME OFF 26:18.511 --> 26:19.743 MAYBE MICHELLE DIDN'T COME OFF AS READY AS SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN 26:19.745 --> 26:21.245 AS READY AS SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THAT SORT OF QUESTION. 26:21.247 --> 26:22.513 FOR THAT SORT OF QUESTION. PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS, 26:22.515 --> 26:27.818 PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS, THEY KNOW THAT TERRY GODDARD HAS 26:27.820 --> 26:29.086 THEY KNOW THAT TERRY GODDARD HAS A LONG HISTORY. 26:29.088 --> 26:30.287 A LONG HISTORY. NACHL WRE 26:30.289 --> 26:30.821 NACHL WRE NAME RECOGNITION. 26:30.823 --> 26:32.456 NAME RECOGNITION. MICHELLE REAGAN NOT BOWING OUT 26:32.458 --> 26:33.123 MICHELLE REAGAN NOT BOWING OUT EITHER YET. 26:33.125 --> 26:35.526 EITHER YET. >> SHE IS NOT A POLITICAL 26:35.528 --> 26:35.893 >> SHE IS NOT A POLITICAL NEOPHYTE. 26:35.895 --> 26:36.927 NEOPHYTE. SHE HAS BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE 26:36.929 --> 26:40.264 SHE HAS BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR MANY YEARS. 26:40.266 --> 26:41.799 FOR MANY YEARS. SUNNY HAS RUN 26:41.801 --> 26:44.301 SUNNY HAS RUN SHE HAS RUN ELECTION LAW THROUGH 26:44.303 --> 26:44.768 SHE HAS RUN ELECTION LAW THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE. 26:44.770 --> 26:46.303 THE LEGISLATURE. WHETHER YOU AGREE A WHOLE 26:46.305 --> 26:46.737 WHETHER YOU AGREE A WHOLE ANOTHER ISSUE. 26:46.739 --> 26:49.773 ANOTHER ISSUE. SHE KNOWS THE PROCESS AROUND THE 26:49.775 --> 26:50.341 SHE KNOWS THE PROCESS AROUND THE BUILDING A LONG TIME. 26:50.343 --> 26:52.610 BUILDING A LONG TIME. TERRY GODDARD IS NO STRANGER, 26:52.612 --> 26:53.143 TERRY GODDARD IS NO STRANGER, POLITICALLY HERE. 26:53.145 --> 26:54.545 POLITICALLY HERE. HIS FATHER WAS GOVERNOR. 26:54.547 --> 26:55.846 HIS FATHER WAS GOVERNOR. HE WAS MAYOR OF PHOENIX. 26:55.848 --> 26:56.947 HE WAS MAYOR OF PHOENIX. HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL. 26:56.949 --> 26:58.415 HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL. SO HE HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG 26:58.417 --> 26:58.782 SO HE HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME TOO. 26:58.784 --> 27:00.718 TIME TOO. THESE ARE, BOTH NAMES THAT 27:00.720 --> 27:02.019 THESE ARE, BOTH NAMES THAT POLITICAL PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL. 27:02.021 --> 27:02.720 POLITICAL PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL. >> OKAY. 27:02.722 --> 27:06.624 >> OKAY. WE HAVE JUST A SHORT BIT OF TIME 27:06.626 --> 27:06.924 WE HAVE JUST A SHORT BIT OF TIME LEFT. 27:06.926 --> 27:07.658 LEFT. BUT AD, REALLY STARTING TO SEE 27:07.660 --> 27:09.393 BUT AD, REALLY STARTING TO SEE THOSE AMP UP IN THE NEXT FEW 27:09.395 --> 27:09.693 THOSE AMP UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. 27:09.695 --> 27:10.828 WEEKS. A LOT OF MONEY. 27:10.830 --> 27:12.296 A LOT OF MONEY. YOU WERE ON EARLIER TALKING 27:12.298 --> 27:12.663 YOU WERE ON EARLIER TALKING ABOUT IT. 27:12.665 --> 27:14.298 ABOUT IT. WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE THAT UP 27:14.300 --> 27:15.366 WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE THAT UP UNTIL ELECTION DAY. 27:15.368 --> 27:17.167 UNTIL ELECTION DAY. >> WE WILL SEE THAT UP UNTIL 27:17.169 --> 27:17.801 >> WE WILL SEE THAT UP UNTIL ELECTION DAY. 27:17.803 --> 27:20.070 ELECTION DAY. WE HAVE SEEN AD BUYS FROM THE 27:20.072 --> 27:20.938 WE HAVE SEEN AD BUYS FROM THE NATIONAL GROUPS. 27:20.940 --> 27:22.272 NATIONAL GROUPS. HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF DOLLARS 27:22.274 --> 27:22.740 HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF DOLLARS THIS WEEK. 27:22.742 --> 27:24.041 THIS WEEK. A MILLION FROM SEVERAL 27:24.043 --> 27:25.242 A MILLION FROM SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL GROUPS THIS WEEK 27:25.244 --> 27:25.676 INDIVIDUAL GROUPS THIS WEEK ALONE. 27:25.678 --> 27:29.079 ALONE. >> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, VERY 27:29.081 --> 27:29.480 >> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, VERY INTERESTING. 27:29.482 --> 27:30.781 INTERESTING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. 27:30.783 --> 27:31.415 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 27:31.417 --> 27:32.683 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. 27:32.685 --> 27:34.485 THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. TUNE IN NEXT WEEK I SIT DOWN 27:34.487 --> 27:36.687 TUNE IN NEXT WEEK I SIT DOWN WITH A REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC 27:36.689 --> 27:37.221 WITH A REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST. 27:37.223 --> 27:38.656 STRATEGIST. WE'LL GET THEIR TAKE ON THE 27:38.658 --> 27:42.226 WE'LL GET THEIR TAKE ON THE UPCOMING ELECTION. 27:42.228 --> 27:43.394 UPCOMING ELECTION. GOOD NIGHT.