1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,904 TEST>>> A FORMER GOVERNOR SITS DOWN AND SHARES HIS STORY OF 2 00:00:05,906 --> 00:00:07,740 DOWN AND SHARES HIS STORY OF RISING IN ARIZONA POLITICS. 3 00:00:07,742 --> 00:00:11,410 RISING IN ARIZONA POLITICS. >> IN OTHER WORDS WHENEVER I 4 00:00:11,412 --> 00:00:15,781 >> IN OTHER WORDS WHENEVER I FELT THAT IT MADE ME MOVE 5 00:00:15,783 --> 00:00:19,051 FELT THAT IT MADE ME MOVE FORWARD. 6 00:00:19,053 --> 00:00:20,452 FORWARD. AND I GET -- 7 00:00:20,454 --> 00:00:21,954 AND I GET -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] 8 00:00:21,956 --> 00:00:24,623 [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> WITH TWO WEEKS UNTIL MIDTERM 9 00:00:24,625 --> 00:00:26,091 >> WITH TWO WEEKS UNTIL MIDTERM ELECTIONS DOLLARS ARE ADDING UP. 10 00:00:26,093 --> 00:00:28,127 ELECTIONS DOLLARS ARE ADDING UP. WHO IS PAYING FOR SOME OF THE 11 00:00:28,129 --> 00:00:29,328 WHO IS PAYING FOR SOME OF THE STATE'S KEY RACES? 12 00:00:29,330 --> 00:00:34,700 STATE'S KEY RACES? THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 13 00:00:34,702 --> 00:00:37,169 THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." >>> JUST AS ARIZONA IS READY TO 14 00:00:37,171 --> 00:00:38,737 >>> JUST AS ARIZONA IS READY TO ELECT A NEW GOVERNOR TODAY WE 15 00:00:38,739 --> 00:00:42,007 ELECT A NEW GOVERNOR TODAY WE ARE HEARING FROM A FORMER 16 00:00:42,009 --> 00:00:42,908 ARE HEARING FROM A FORMER GOVERNOR. 17 00:00:42,910 --> 00:00:46,078 GOVERNOR. LEADING ARIZONA FROM 1975 TO 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,146 LEADING ARIZONA FROM 1975 TO 1977. 19 00:00:47,148 --> 00:00:49,415 1977. TODAY, THE 98-YEAR-OLD LIVES IN 20 00:00:49,417 --> 00:00:50,282 TODAY, THE 98-YEAR-OLD LIVES IN SAN DIEGO. 21 00:00:50,284 --> 00:00:52,117 SAN DIEGO. ELECTED 40 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH. 22 00:00:52,119 --> 00:00:53,886 ELECTED 40 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH. JUST THIS WEEK HE VISITED TUCSON 23 00:00:53,888 --> 00:00:55,954 JUST THIS WEEK HE VISITED TUCSON TO ACCEPT AN AWARD FROM THE 24 00:00:55,956 --> 00:01:00,426 TO ACCEPT AN AWARD FROM THE HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 25 00:01:00,428 --> 00:01:00,759 HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. ¶ 26 00:01:00,761 --> 00:01:01,093 ¶ ¶ 27 00:01:01,095 --> 00:01:03,695 ¶ RAUL GASTROW'S STORY BEGINS 28 00:01:03,697 --> 00:01:05,964 RAUL GASTROW'S STORY BEGINS SOUTH OF THE BORDER IN MEXICO 29 00:01:05,966 --> 00:01:08,233 SOUTH OF THE BORDER IN MEXICO WHERE HIS FATHER WORKED AS A 30 00:01:08,235 --> 00:01:10,202 WHERE HIS FATHER WORKED AS A MINER IN THE 1900s. 31 00:01:10,204 --> 00:01:12,638 MINER IN THE 1900s. THE FAMILY'S TIME THERE DIDN'T 32 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,172 THE FAMILY'S TIME THERE DIDN'T LAST LONG. 33 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:15,240 LAST LONG. A UNION STRIKE LED TO THE ARREST 34 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:16,575 A UNION STRIKE LED TO THE ARREST OF HIS FATHER AND DEPORTATION OF 35 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:18,811 OF HIS FATHER AND DEPORTATION OF THE FAMILY, MOTHER, FATHER, TEN 36 00:01:18,813 --> 00:01:22,915 THE FAMILY, MOTHER, FATHER, TEN BOYS, ONE GIRL. 37 00:01:22,917 --> 00:01:27,119 BOYS, ONE GIRL. >> PART OF ARIZONA, THE 38 00:01:27,121 --> 00:01:28,487 >> PART OF ARIZONA, THE IMMIGRATION OFFICER FINISHED 39 00:01:28,489 --> 00:01:30,322 IMMIGRATION OFFICER FINISHED WITH THE PAPERWORK, HE SAID YOU 40 00:01:30,324 --> 00:01:34,293 WITH THE PAPERWORK, HE SAID YOU ARE NOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF 41 00:01:34,295 --> 00:01:34,626 ARE NOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 42 00:01:34,628 --> 00:01:36,261 AMERICA. IT IS UP TO YOU. 43 00:01:36,263 --> 00:01:38,130 IT IS UP TO YOU. MEANING DON'T EXPECT ANY 44 00:01:38,132 --> 00:01:38,497 MEANING DON'T EXPECT ANY HANDOUTS. 45 00:01:38,499 --> 00:01:40,232 HANDOUTS. DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE HELP, ET 46 00:01:40,234 --> 00:01:40,566 DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE HELP, ET CETERA. 47 00:01:40,568 --> 00:01:42,568 CETERA. THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM. 48 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:43,836 THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM. >> IT WAS NEVER EASY. 49 00:01:43,838 --> 00:01:47,739 >> IT WAS NEVER EASY. AS A BOY IN DOUGLAS, THE 50 00:01:47,741 --> 00:01:49,575 AS A BOY IN DOUGLAS, THE GOVERNOR RECALLED DISCRIMINATION 51 00:01:49,577 --> 00:01:51,243 GOVERNOR RECALLED DISCRIMINATION AND PREJUDICE. 52 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:56,982 AND PREJUDICE. >> WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, A 53 00:01:56,984 --> 00:01:58,317 >> WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, A SCHOOL FOR MEXICAN KIDS, GRAMMAR 54 00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:02,187 SCHOOL FOR MEXICAN KIDS, GRAMMAR SCHOOL WAS SEGREGATED, NO 55 00:02:02,189 --> 00:02:04,590 SCHOOL WAS SEGREGATED, NO MEXICANS, YOUR DUMMIES, MEXICAN 56 00:02:04,592 --> 00:02:04,890 MEXICANS, YOUR DUMMIES, MEXICAN KIDS. 57 00:02:04,892 --> 00:02:06,391 KIDS. THOSE ARE THING THAT MOTIVATED 58 00:02:06,393 --> 00:02:08,160 THOSE ARE THING THAT MOTIVATED ME INSTEAD OF MAKING ME QUIT. 59 00:02:08,162 --> 00:02:11,096 ME INSTEAD OF MAKING ME QUIT. >> I WOULD LOOK TO INTRODUCE THE 60 00:02:11,098 --> 00:02:12,331 >> I WOULD LOOK TO INTRODUCE THE HONORABLE GOVERNOR. 61 00:02:12,333 --> 00:02:14,032 HONORABLE GOVERNOR. >> EXPERIENCE HE'S SHARES 62 00:02:14,034 --> 00:02:17,736 >> EXPERIENCE HE'S SHARES WHENEVER ASKED ABOUT HIS LIFE. 63 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:20,272 WHENEVER ASKED ABOUT HIS LIFE. >> I WENT TO SCHOOL, AND TIME 64 00:02:20,274 --> 00:02:22,474 >> I WENT TO SCHOOL, AND TIME CAME TO GO TO SCHOOL IN DOUGLAS. 65 00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:24,276 CAME TO GO TO SCHOOL IN DOUGLAS. WE WALKED TO DOUGLAS FIVE MILES. 66 00:02:24,278 --> 00:02:30,616 WE WALKED TO DOUGLAS FIVE MILES. THE BUSES FROM DOUGLAS WOULD 67 00:02:30,618 --> 00:02:31,550 THE BUSES FROM DOUGLAS WOULD PECK -- 68 00:02:31,552 --> 00:02:32,217 PECK -- PICK UP THE WHITE CHILDREN. 69 00:02:32,219 --> 00:02:32,718 PICK UP THE WHITE CHILDREN. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. 70 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,352 THIS IS NOT RIGHT. THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE. 71 00:02:33,354 --> 00:02:34,286 THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. 72 00:02:34,288 --> 00:02:35,487 THIS IS NOT RIGHT. THESE ARE THE THINGS MY LIFE 73 00:02:35,489 --> 00:02:37,256 THESE ARE THE THINGS MY LIFE THAT MADE ME PUSH FORWARD TO, 74 00:02:37,258 --> 00:02:41,393 THAT MADE ME PUSH FORWARD TO, TRY TO, SEE HOW THINGS CHANGED. 75 00:02:41,395 --> 00:02:46,198 TRY TO, SEE HOW THINGS CHANGED. >> PANFUL ME F PAINFUL MEMORIES 76 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,832 >> PANFUL ME F PAINFUL MEMORIES CHILDHOOD. 77 00:02:46,834 --> 00:02:49,168 CHILDHOOD. THE DAY THE GOVERNOR VISITED 78 00:02:49,170 --> 00:02:52,304 THE DAY THE GOVERNOR VISITED DOUGLAS MAY HAVE CHANGED IT ALL. 79 00:02:52,306 --> 00:02:58,677 DOUGLAS MAY HAVE CHANGED IT ALL. IT IS AST STEORY HE TELLS AT AG 80 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:10,155 IT IS AST STEORY HE TELLS AT AG 98. 81 00:03:10,157 --> 00:03:13,392 98. >> IF THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA 82 00:03:13,394 --> 00:03:15,027 >> IF THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA ARRIVED, HEAVY SET, BIG 83 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:15,394 ARRIVED, HEAVY SET, BIG SHOULDERS. 84 00:03:15,396 --> 00:03:17,095 SHOULDERS. HE SAID, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF 85 00:03:17,097 --> 00:03:18,664 HE SAID, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF DOUGLAS, ARIZONA, THANK YOU FOR 86 00:03:18,666 --> 00:03:20,632 DOUGLAS, ARIZONA, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO SPEAK TODAY, FOR 87 00:03:20,634 --> 00:03:23,402 INVITING ME TO SPEAK TODAY, FOR LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, AND 88 00:03:23,404 --> 00:03:23,802 LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, AND OPPORTUNITY. 89 00:03:23,804 --> 00:03:26,572 OPPORTUNITY. AND ONE OF THESE DAYS, ONE OF 90 00:03:26,574 --> 00:03:27,706 AND ONE OF THESE DAYS, ONE OF THESE BAREFOOTED KIDS. 91 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:29,508 THESE BAREFOOTED KIDS. HE POINTED RIGHT AT ME, WILL 92 00:03:29,510 --> 00:03:33,879 HE POINTED RIGHT AT ME, WILL GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA. 93 00:03:33,881 --> 00:03:35,614 GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA. >> A GLIMPSE OF HOPE THAT 94 00:03:35,616 --> 00:03:36,848 >> A GLIMPSE OF HOPE THAT IRONICALLY OFFERED AN INSIGHT 95 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:37,783 IRONICALLY OFFERED AN INSIGHT INTO THE FUTURE. 96 00:03:37,785 --> 00:03:39,585 INTO THE FUTURE. IT IS A MOMENT IN TIME, THAT 97 00:03:39,587 --> 00:03:42,054 IT IS A MOMENT IN TIME, THAT NEVER DISAPPEARED FROM THIS 98 00:03:42,056 --> 00:03:42,721 NEVER DISAPPEARED FROM THIS BOY'S DREAMS. 99 00:03:42,723 --> 00:03:47,092 BOY'S DREAMS. >> ONE DAY THE TEACHER, SCHOOL 100 00:03:47,094 --> 00:03:49,428 >> ONE DAY THE TEACHER, SCHOOL FOR MEXICAN KIDS, CAME PUT AN 101 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:52,331 FOR MEXICAN KIDS, CAME PUT AN ARM ON MY SHOULDER AND SAID, 102 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:53,799 ARM ON MY SHOULDER AND SAID, RAUL, PRONOUNCED MY NAME, YOU 103 00:03:53,801 --> 00:03:54,967 RAUL, PRONOUNCED MY NAME, YOU ARE NOT MAKING GOOD WORK. 104 00:03:54,969 --> 00:03:56,668 ARE NOT MAKING GOOD WORK. I'VE THINK YOU CAN BE A VERY 105 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:57,236 I'VE THINK YOU CAN BE A VERY GOOD STUDENT. 106 00:03:57,238 --> 00:03:58,637 GOOD STUDENT. BUT YOU ARE NOT BEING ONE. 107 00:03:58,639 --> 00:04:00,405 BUT YOU ARE NOT BEING ONE. ON THE WAY HOME THAT EVENING, I 108 00:04:00,407 --> 00:04:01,306 ON THE WAY HOME THAT EVENING, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF. 109 00:04:01,308 --> 00:04:03,508 THOUGHT TO MYSELF. THAT TEACHER MUST CARE FOR ME. 110 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:05,444 THAT TEACHER MUST CARE FOR ME. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. 111 00:04:05,446 --> 00:04:07,679 BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I DID BECOME A GOOD STUDENT. 112 00:04:07,681 --> 00:04:10,449 I DID BECOME A GOOD STUDENT. >> A STRONG STUDENT AND STANDOUT 113 00:04:10,451 --> 00:04:12,284 >> A STRONG STUDENT AND STANDOUT ATHLETE, HE ENROLLED AT NORTHERN 114 00:04:12,286 --> 00:04:15,420 ATHLETE, HE ENROLLED AT NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY. 115 00:04:15,422 --> 00:04:20,692 ARIZONA UNIVERSITY. >> QUARTERBACK ON THE FOOTBALL 116 00:04:20,694 --> 00:04:21,827 >> QUARTERBACK ON THE FOOTBALL TEAM. 117 00:04:21,829 --> 00:04:23,428 TEAM. TIME GRADUATION TIME CAME, I 118 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:24,229 TIME GRADUATION TIME CAME, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF. 119 00:04:24,231 --> 00:04:27,099 THOUGHT TO MYSELF. I AM A BIG SHOT. 120 00:04:27,101 --> 00:04:28,834 I AM A BIG SHOT. I GARARADUATED. 121 00:04:28,836 --> 00:04:30,636 I GARARADUATED. TRIED TO GET A TEACHING JOB IN 122 00:04:30,638 --> 00:04:31,603 TRIED TO GET A TEACHING JOB IN ARIZONA. 123 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:31,903 ARIZONA. NADA. 124 00:04:31,905 --> 00:04:34,006 NADA. WE DON'T HIRE MEXICANS TO BE 125 00:04:34,008 --> 00:04:34,373 WE DON'T HIRE MEXICANS TO BE TEACHERS. 126 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:35,474 TEACHERS. SO I WANT TO MOTHER. 127 00:04:35,476 --> 00:04:36,675 SO I WANT TO MOTHER. MOTHER, I AM NOT LEAVING YOU. 128 00:04:36,677 --> 00:04:40,679 MOTHER, I AM NOT LEAVING YOU. I CAN'T GET A JOB. 129 00:04:40,681 --> 00:04:42,481 I CAN'T GET A JOB. >> BY TRAIN HE TRAVELED TO 130 00:04:42,483 --> 00:04:45,384 >> BY TRAIN HE TRAVELED TO OKLAHOMA AND WORKED THE FIELDS. 131 00:04:45,386 --> 00:04:46,518 OKLAHOMA AND WORKED THE FIELDS. BOXING ON THE SIDE. 132 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,088 BOXING ON THE SIDE. AND HE WORKED AT THE DOUGLAS 133 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:51,056 AND HE WORKED AT THE DOUGLAS SMELTER, EVERYTHING FUELED HIS 134 00:04:51,058 --> 00:04:51,423 SMELTER, EVERYTHING FUELED HIS FIRE. 135 00:04:51,425 --> 00:04:55,027 FIRE. >> YOU CAN CHANGE THINGS. 136 00:04:55,029 --> 00:04:57,629 >> YOU CAN CHANGE THINGS. ONCE I WALKED UP TO THE SMELTER 137 00:04:57,631 --> 00:05:04,936 ONCE I WALKED UP TO THE SMELTER IN DOUGLAS. 138 00:05:04,938 --> 00:05:06,538 IN DOUGLAS. I GOT $2.20. 139 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:07,506 I GOT $2.20. I SAID WHY. 140 00:05:07,508 --> 00:05:09,408 I SAID WHY. BECAUSE YOU ARE A MIX CAN. 141 00:05:09,410 --> 00:05:11,777 BECAUSE YOU ARE A MIX CAN. YOU CAN BE A MINER. 142 00:05:11,779 --> 00:05:16,348 YOU CAN BE A MINER. BUT NOT ON, IF YOU ARE A 143 00:05:16,350 --> 00:05:17,215 BUT NOT ON, IF YOU ARE A MEXICAN. 144 00:05:17,217 --> 00:05:19,184 MEXICAN. >> A JOB AT THE AMERICAN EMBASSY 145 00:05:19,186 --> 00:05:21,753 >> A JOB AT THE AMERICAN EMBASSY ACROSS THE BORDER FROM DOUGLAS, 146 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:23,488 ACROSS THE BORDER FROM DOUGLAS, IGNITED AN INTEREST IN PUBLIC 147 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:23,822 IGNITED AN INTEREST IN PUBLIC SERVICE. 148 00:05:23,824 --> 00:05:25,524 SERVICE. AND AN IDEA THAT MAYBE HE SHOULD 149 00:05:25,526 --> 00:05:26,825 AND AN IDEA THAT MAYBE HE SHOULD APPLY TO LAW SCHOOL AT THE 150 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:29,061 APPLY TO LAW SCHOOL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA. 151 00:05:29,063 --> 00:05:30,729 UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA. DESPITE ADMINISTRATIVE 152 00:05:30,731 --> 00:05:34,333 DESPITE ADMINISTRATIVE OBJECTIONS, HE WAS ACCEPTED AND 153 00:05:34,335 --> 00:05:34,700 OBJECTIONS, HE WAS ACCEPTED AND EXCELLED. 154 00:05:34,702 --> 00:05:35,801 EXCELLED. HE IS PROUD TO SAY, EDUCATION, 155 00:05:35,803 --> 00:05:41,039 HE IS PROUD TO SAY, EDUCATION, FOREVER, CHANGED HIS PATH. 156 00:05:41,041 --> 00:05:44,142 FOREVER, CHANGED HIS PATH. >> I WAS AN ATTORNEY, JUDGE AT 157 00:05:44,144 --> 00:05:46,745 >> I WAS AN ATTORNEY, JUDGE AT SUPERIOR COURT, JUDGE OF 158 00:05:46,747 --> 00:05:48,080 SUPERIOR COURT, JUDGE OF JUVENILE COURT, GOVERNOR. 159 00:05:48,082 --> 00:05:53,552 JUVENILE COURT, GOVERNOR. WHEN I WANT TO ARGENTINA, THEY 160 00:05:53,554 --> 00:05:55,987 WHEN I WANT TO ARGENTINA, THEY SENT A MEXICAN TO BE THE 161 00:05:55,989 --> 00:05:56,822 SENT A MEXICAN TO BE THE AMERICAN AMBASSADOR. 162 00:05:56,824 --> 00:05:58,924 AMERICAN AMBASSADOR. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? 163 00:05:58,926 --> 00:06:01,093 >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> I WANTED TO START WALKING IN 164 00:06:01,095 --> 00:06:02,361 >> I WANTED TO START WALKING IN THE STREETS AND TALKING TO 165 00:06:02,363 --> 00:06:02,694 THE STREETS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE. 166 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:03,962 PEOPLE. THINGS CHANGED. 167 00:06:03,964 --> 00:06:06,965 THINGS CHANGED. THEY SAID, FINE. 168 00:06:06,967 --> 00:06:08,367 THEY SAID, FINE. AND ARGENTINA. 169 00:06:08,369 --> 00:06:10,602 AND ARGENTINA. >> AFTER 14 YEARS OF LAFG BROAD, 170 00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:12,504 >> AFTER 14 YEARS OF LAFG BROAD, FRIEND SUGGEST HEED RUN FOR 171 00:06:12,506 --> 00:06:12,904 FRIEND SUGGEST HEED RUN FOR GOVERNOR. 172 00:06:12,906 --> 00:06:16,007 GOVERNOR. HE LOST BY LESS THAN 1% OF THE 173 00:06:16,009 --> 00:06:16,308 HE LOST BY LESS THAN 1% OF THE VOTE. 174 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:17,943 VOTE. NOT BACKING DOWN FROM A FIGHT, 175 00:06:17,945 --> 00:06:19,544 NOT BACKING DOWN FROM A FIGHT, MR. CASTRO TRIED AGAIN. 176 00:06:19,546 --> 00:06:22,114 MR. CASTRO TRIED AGAIN. THIS TIME, WINNING AND MAKING 177 00:06:22,116 --> 00:06:23,849 THIS TIME, WINNING AND MAKING HISTORY AS ARIZONA'S FIRST 178 00:06:23,851 --> 00:06:26,685 HISTORY AS ARIZONA'S FIRST GOVERNOR OF MEXICAN DESCENT. 179 00:06:26,687 --> 00:06:29,421 GOVERNOR OF MEXICAN DESCENT. >> ON ELECTION DAY, AT 4:00 IN 180 00:06:29,423 --> 00:06:32,424 >> ON ELECTION DAY, AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING I WAS 4,000 VOTES 181 00:06:32,426 --> 00:06:33,959 THE MORNING I WAS 4,000 VOTES BEHIND THE NATIVE AMERICAN VOTE 182 00:06:33,961 --> 00:06:34,659 BEHIND THE NATIVE AMERICAN VOTE CAME IN. 183 00:06:34,661 --> 00:06:36,661 CAME IN. IT WAS IN SUPPORT OF MY 184 00:06:36,663 --> 00:06:37,028 IT WAS IN SUPPORT OF MY CAMPAIGN. 185 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:38,997 CAMPAIGN. I WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF 186 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:39,364 I WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA. 187 00:06:39,366 --> 00:06:41,967 ARIZONA. >> A SURREAL MOMENT HE HOPES 188 00:06:41,969 --> 00:06:44,903 >> A SURREAL MOMENT HE HOPES WILL INSPIRE FOR GENERATIONS. 189 00:06:44,905 --> 00:06:48,907 WILL INSPIRE FOR GENERATIONS. >> IMPORTANT -- OTHER 190 00:06:48,909 --> 00:06:50,776 >> IMPORTANT -- OTHER MEXICAN-AMERICAN KIDS, AS 191 00:06:50,778 --> 00:06:53,612 MEXICAN-AMERICAN KIDS, AS PROBABLY THE SAME THING. 192 00:06:53,614 --> 00:06:54,813 PROBABLY THE SAME THING. I COULD NEVER STAND IT. 193 00:06:54,815 --> 00:06:57,015 I COULD NEVER STAND IT. I COULD GO TO THE BARBER SHOP ON 194 00:06:57,017 --> 00:07:02,587 I COULD GO TO THE BARBER SHOP ON WEST CONGRESSEN TUCS EN TIN TUC. 195 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,189 WEST CONGRESSEN TUCS EN TIN TUC. ALL THESE MEXICAN KIDS, 196 00:07:04,191 --> 00:07:05,357 ALL THESE MEXICAN KIDS, COMPLAINING SALARIES, WAGES. 197 00:07:05,359 --> 00:07:07,058 COMPLAINING SALARIES, WAGES. I SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT 198 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:07,592 I SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? 199 00:07:07,594 --> 00:07:07,926 IT? NOTHING. 200 00:07:07,928 --> 00:07:10,028 NOTHING. I AM GOING TO RUN FOR COUNTY 201 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:10,395 I AM GOING TO RUN FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. 202 00:07:10,397 --> 00:07:10,929 ATTORNEY. YOU ARE CRAZY. 203 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:12,531 YOU ARE CRAZY. WHO IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU? 204 00:07:12,533 --> 00:07:14,599 WHO IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU? YOU ARE BORN IN MEXICO, MEXICAN 205 00:07:14,601 --> 00:07:14,933 YOU ARE BORN IN MEXICO, MEXICAN PARENTS. 206 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:16,134 PARENTS. NOBODY IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU. 207 00:07:16,136 --> 00:07:18,437 NOBODY IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU. I RUN FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. 208 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:20,105 I RUN FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A 209 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:21,673 AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A COUNTY ATTORNEY IN TUCSON OF 210 00:07:21,675 --> 00:07:22,707 COUNTY ATTORNEY IN TUCSON OF MEXICAN DESCENT. 211 00:07:22,709 --> 00:07:24,443 MEXICAN DESCENT. I WAS IT FOR YEARS. 212 00:07:24,445 --> 00:07:25,644 I WAS IT FOR YEARS. AND JUDGE. 213 00:07:25,646 --> 00:07:26,945 AND JUDGE. >> OR GOVERNOR? 214 00:07:26,947 --> 00:07:29,781 >> OR GOVERNOR? >> GOVERNOR. 215 00:07:29,783 --> 00:07:30,982 >> GOVERNOR. YEAH. 216 00:07:30,984 --> 00:07:31,850 YEAH. AWE A 217 00:07:31,852 --> 00:07:32,784 AWE A A GAME CHANGER FOR THIS BOY FROM 218 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:33,819 A GAME CHANGER FOR THIS BOY FROM THE BORDER. 219 00:07:33,821 --> 00:07:34,986 THE BORDER. >> GOVERNOR. 220 00:07:34,988 --> 00:07:36,221 >> GOVERNOR. IN ARIZONA. 221 00:07:36,223 --> 00:07:41,693 IN ARIZONA. WANTED ME TO BEA MEP WERE. 222 00:07:41,695 --> 00:07:43,929 WANTED ME TO BEA MEP WERE. NONE OF THE COUNTRY CLUBS IN 223 00:07:43,931 --> 00:07:44,262 NONE OF THE COUNTRY CLUBS IN TUCSON. 224 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:45,730 TUCSON. I COULDN'T JOIN THEM. 225 00:07:45,732 --> 00:07:46,998 I COULDN'T JOIN THEM. ONCE I BECAME GOVERNOR THEY 226 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,433 ONCE I BECAME GOVERNOR THEY LOVED ME DEARLY. 227 00:07:48,435 --> 00:07:50,168 LOVED ME DEARLY. >> BUT HE NEVER FORGOT WHO HE 228 00:07:50,170 --> 00:07:51,636 >> BUT HE NEVER FORGOT WHO HE WAS, WHERE HE CAM FROM OR THE 229 00:07:51,638 --> 00:08:01,079 WAS, WHERE HE CAM FROM OR THE JOURNEY HE HAS BEEN ON. 230 00:08:01,081 --> 00:08:02,380 JOURNEY HE HAS BEEN ON. >> KIDS DON'T HAVE MOTIVATION. 231 00:08:02,382 --> 00:08:02,781 >> KIDS DON'T HAVE MOTIVATION. THEY QUIT. 232 00:08:02,783 --> 00:08:03,682 THEY QUIT. THEY GIVE UP. 233 00:08:03,684 --> 00:08:05,317 THEY GIVE UP. I USED TO GO TO THE SCHOOL AND 234 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:06,451 I USED TO GO TO THE SCHOOL AND TALK TO THE KIDS. 235 00:08:06,453 --> 00:08:08,253 TALK TO THE KIDS. THEY WOULD SAY, MR. CASTRO, YOU 236 00:08:08,255 --> 00:08:10,489 THEY WOULD SAY, MR. CASTRO, YOU MUST COME FROM A WEALTHY FAMILY. 237 00:08:10,491 --> 00:08:12,457 MUST COME FROM A WEALTHY FAMILY. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT KILLED ME. 238 00:08:12,459 --> 00:08:14,793 THOSE ARE THINGS THAT KILLED ME. I SAID, WHAT DO I TELL THEM, I 239 00:08:14,795 --> 00:08:17,162 I SAID, WHAT DO I TELL THEM, I SAID, LOOK AT ME. 240 00:08:17,164 --> 00:08:18,597 SAID, LOOK AT ME. I CAME FROM MEXICO. 241 00:08:18,599 --> 00:08:21,466 I CAME FROM MEXICO. EVERYWHERE I GO EVEN NOW AS AN 242 00:08:21,468 --> 00:08:25,804 EVERYWHERE I GO EVEN NOW AS AN ADULT, I GET SET BACK, BORED 243 00:08:25,806 --> 00:08:28,673 ADULT, I GET SET BACK, BORED PATROL, WHERE WERE YOU BORN? 244 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:29,007 PATROL, WHERE WERE YOU BORN? MEXICO. 245 00:08:29,009 --> 00:08:30,775 MEXICO. AND BORDER PATROL COMES UP. 246 00:08:30,777 --> 00:08:34,379 AND BORDER PATROL COMES UP. HEY, AMIGO -- 247 00:08:34,381 --> 00:08:36,681 HEY, AMIGO -- [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ] 248 00:08:36,683 --> 00:08:38,483 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ] JUST REALLY THE SCARE OF MY LIFE 249 00:08:38,485 --> 00:08:38,917 JUST REALLY THE SCARE OF MY LIFE REALLY. 250 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:40,552 REALLY. THAT'S THE MOTIVATOR IN ME. 251 00:08:40,554 --> 00:08:41,386 THAT'S THE MOTIVATOR IN ME. NEVER GAVE UP. 252 00:08:41,388 --> 00:08:42,621 NEVER GAVE UP. NEVER QUIT. 253 00:08:42,623 --> 00:08:45,090 NEVER QUIT. >> LIKE RAUL CASTRO'S LEGACY IT 254 00:08:45,092 --> 00:08:47,959 >> LIKE RAUL CASTRO'S LEGACY IT LIVES ON STRONG EVEN AT 98. 255 00:08:47,961 --> 00:08:49,728 LIVES ON STRONG EVEN AT 98. >> HA-HA! 256 00:08:49,730 --> 00:08:53,164 >> HA-HA! >> NO, I, I LIVED TATTERED AND 257 00:08:53,166 --> 00:08:54,266 >> NO, I, I LIVED TATTERED AND TORN, REALLY. 258 00:08:54,268 --> 00:08:55,667 TORN, REALLY. IT'S HARD. 259 00:08:55,669 --> 00:08:58,136 IT'S HARD. THE EYESIGHT GETS WEAK. 260 00:08:58,138 --> 00:09:01,473 THE EYESIGHT GETS WEAK. YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S NOT EASY. 261 00:09:01,475 --> 00:09:03,408 YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S NOT EASY. >> IT WAS NEVER EASY FOR HIM AS 262 00:09:03,410 --> 00:09:05,810 >> IT WAS NEVER EASY FOR HIM AS A CHILD AS A MAN, YET THE 263 00:09:05,812 --> 00:09:07,445 A CHILD AS A MAN, YET THE DIFFICULTIES WERE WHAT SHAPED 264 00:09:07,447 --> 00:09:09,614 DIFFICULTIES WERE WHAT SHAPED HIS CHARACTER AND ENGENDERED HIS 265 00:09:09,616 --> 00:09:10,081 HIS CHARACTER AND ENGENDERED HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 266 00:09:10,083 --> 00:09:10,448 ACCOMPLISHMENTS. ¶ 267 00:09:10,450 --> 00:09:16,388 ¶ ¶ 268 00:09:16,390 --> 00:09:18,456 ¶ >> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT 269 00:09:18,458 --> 00:09:20,225 >> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT HAS BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE GOVERNOR 270 00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:21,927 HAS BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE GOVERNOR CASTRO HELD A HIGH-PROFILE 271 00:09:21,929 --> 00:09:22,994 CASTRO HELD A HIGH-PROFILE OFFICE IN ARIZONA. 272 00:09:22,996 --> 00:09:25,497 OFFICE IN ARIZONA. A PIONEER IN POLITICS, BUT THERE 273 00:09:25,499 --> 00:09:27,299 A PIONEER IN POLITICS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN FEW POLITICIANS OF 274 00:09:27,301 --> 00:09:28,967 HAVE BEEN FEW POLITICIANS OF MEXICAN DESCENT TO REPRESENT THE 275 00:09:28,969 --> 00:09:29,267 MEXICAN DESCENT TO REPRESENT THE STATE. 276 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:31,136 STATE. TWO POLITICAL CONSULTANTS IN 277 00:09:31,138 --> 00:09:32,103 TWO POLITICAL CONSULTANTS IN PHOENIX SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON 278 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:32,971 PHOENIX SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE ROLE OF HISPANICS IN 279 00:09:32,973 --> 00:09:35,540 THE ROLE OF HISPANICS IN POLITICS. 280 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:38,243 POLITICS. >> NOW WE ARE SEEING LATINOS AND 281 00:09:38,245 --> 00:09:39,444 >> NOW WE ARE SEEING LATINOS AND LATINAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE. 282 00:09:39,446 --> 00:09:40,946 LATINAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE. WHAT DO YOU KNOW WE ARE 283 00:09:40,948 --> 00:09:42,180 WHAT DO YOU KNOW WE ARE PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL. 284 00:09:42,182 --> 00:09:43,715 PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL. YOU LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE 285 00:09:43,717 --> 00:09:45,183 YOU LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE ACROSS THE STATE, WE ARE IN 286 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:46,851 ACROSS THE STATE, WE ARE IN SCHOOL BOARD. 287 00:09:46,853 --> 00:09:48,853 SCHOOL BOARD. WE ARE IN COUNTY SUPERVISOR 288 00:09:48,855 --> 00:09:49,220 WE ARE IN COUNTY SUPERVISOR POSITIONS. 289 00:09:49,222 --> 00:09:51,156 POSITIONS. NOW RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE 290 00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:51,489 NOW RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICES. 291 00:09:51,491 --> 00:09:53,425 OFFICES. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT'S THE 292 00:09:53,427 --> 00:09:54,859 WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT'S THE LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY 293 00:09:54,861 --> 00:09:56,728 LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND 294 00:09:56,730 --> 00:09:58,930 FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND SAID, TELLING ITSELF, YOU KNOW, 295 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:00,265 SAID, TELLING ITSELF, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS 296 00:10:00,267 --> 00:10:03,268 WE ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS ELECTORAL PROCESS. 297 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:04,002 ELECTORAL PROCESS. >> ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT 298 00:10:04,004 --> 00:10:05,070 >> ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT OUT OF THE MIX. 299 00:10:05,072 --> 00:10:08,139 OUT OF THE MIX. WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG 300 00:10:08,141 --> 00:10:09,307 WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG REPUBLICAN REPRESENT THE STATE? 301 00:10:09,309 --> 00:10:10,075 REPUBLICAN REPRESENT THE STATE? >> GOOD QUESTION. 302 00:10:10,077 --> 00:10:15,347 >> GOOD QUESTION. A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. 303 00:10:15,349 --> 00:10:16,815 A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. YOU HAVE SEVERAL CANDIDATES IN 304 00:10:16,817 --> 00:10:17,816 YOU HAVE SEVERAL CANDIDATES IN NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO. 305 00:10:17,818 --> 00:10:19,317 NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO. YOU WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A 306 00:10:19,319 --> 00:10:23,822 YOU WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A STRONG, LATINO, SOME ONE OUT OF 307 00:10:23,824 --> 00:10:25,290 STRONG, LATINO, SOME ONE OUT OF ARIZONA. 308 00:10:25,292 --> 00:10:28,193 ARIZONA. I THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL 309 00:10:28,195 --> 00:10:28,526 I THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL HAPPEN. 310 00:10:28,528 --> 00:10:29,260 HAPPEN. UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN 311 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:30,295 UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN REPUBLICANS IN MY OPINION GO 312 00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:31,630 REPUBLICANS IN MY OPINION GO AFTER THE CANDIDATES AND RECRUIT 313 00:10:31,632 --> 00:10:31,930 AFTER THE CANDIDATES AND RECRUIT THEM. 314 00:10:31,932 --> 00:10:33,098 THEM. THE WAY THAT I THINK THEY 315 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:33,431 THE WAY THAT I THINK THEY SHOULD. 316 00:10:33,433 --> 00:10:35,100 SHOULD. >> WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM THE 317 00:10:35,102 --> 00:10:38,970 >> WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM THE STRATEGISTS ON NEXT WEEK'S 318 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:39,571 STRATEGISTS ON NEXT WEEK'S PROGRAM. 319 00:10:39,573 --> 00:10:40,739 PROGRAM. ON TO DIFFERENT NEWS. 320 00:10:40,741 --> 00:10:42,307 ON TO DIFFERENT NEWS. THE RACE IS STARTING TO HEAT UP 321 00:10:42,309 --> 00:10:43,208 THE RACE IS STARTING TO HEAT UP IN HOMESTRETCH. 322 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:44,709 IN HOMESTRETCH. LEADING TO ELECTION DAY. 323 00:10:44,711 --> 00:10:46,378 LEADING TO ELECTION DAY. LIKELY TO SEE AND HEAR ADS ON 324 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:47,979 LIKELY TO SEE AND HEAR ADS ON THE RAIDY AND TELEVISION. 325 00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:50,148 THE RAIDY AND TELEVISION. WITH ME, TED ROBBEENS AND 326 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:50,982 WITH ME, TED ROBBEENS AND CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. 327 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:53,118 CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. THIS WEEK THE TWO HAVE BEEN 328 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,419 THIS WEEK THE TWO HAVE BEEN DIGGING INTO NUMBERS ASSOCIATED 329 00:10:54,421 --> 00:10:55,320 DIGGING INTO NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS RACE. 330 00:10:55,322 --> 00:11:00,358 WITH THIS RACE. WHY SUDDENLY NOW SO QUICKLY? 331 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,460 WHY SUDDENLY NOW SO QUICKLY? >> BECAUSE OF THE LATEST FEDERAL 332 00:11:02,462 --> 00:11:03,395 >> BECAUSE OF THE LATEST FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION NUMBERS ARE 333 00:11:03,397 --> 00:11:03,662 ELECTION COMMISSION NUMBERS ARE OUT. 334 00:11:03,664 --> 00:11:05,997 OUT. AND THESE, THESE TWO RACES 335 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:07,866 AND THESE, THESE TWO RACES BEING -- CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 336 00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:08,166 BEING -- CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ONE. 337 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:10,635 ONE. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO. 338 00:11:10,637 --> 00:11:16,474 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO. THE-- THE PATRICK TOBIN RACE, 339 00:11:16,476 --> 00:11:17,142 THE-- THE PATRICK TOBIN RACE, SALLY/BARBER RACE. 340 00:11:17,144 --> 00:11:19,978 SALLY/BARBER RACE. OUT OF ALL THE HOUSE RACES IN 341 00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:21,212 OUT OF ALL THE HOUSE RACES IN THE COUNTRY. 342 00:11:21,214 --> 00:11:24,416 THE COUNTRY. 435, THERE ARE 21, 21 TREE LATED 343 00:11:24,418 --> 00:11:24,816 435, THERE ARE 21, 21 TREE LATED TOSSUPS. 344 00:11:24,818 --> 00:11:26,217 TOSSUPS. -- RELATED TOSSUPS. 345 00:11:26,219 --> 00:11:28,053 -- RELATED TOSSUPS. THOSE TWO RACES ARE AMONG THOSE. 346 00:11:28,055 --> 00:11:29,487 THOSE TWO RACES ARE AMONG THOSE. YEAH, IN FACT, CHRISTOPHER CAN 347 00:11:29,489 --> 00:11:31,356 YEAH, IN FACT, CHRISTOPHER CAN TALK ABOUT THE MONEY. 348 00:11:31,358 --> 00:11:32,624 TALK ABOUT THE MONEY. THEY'RE ALSO WAY UP THERE. 349 00:11:32,626 --> 00:11:35,293 THEY'RE ALSO WAY UP THERE. BECAUSE THEY'RE TOSSUPS. 350 00:11:35,295 --> 00:11:37,262 BECAUSE THEY'RE TOSSUPS. BOTH, BOTH PARTIES THINK THAT 351 00:11:37,264 --> 00:11:39,097 BOTH, BOTH PARTIES THINK THAT THEY CAN PICK SEAT. 352 00:11:39,099 --> 00:11:40,365 THEY CAN PICK SEAT. >> SEATS THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO 353 00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:40,665 >> SEATS THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE. 354 00:11:40,667 --> 00:11:41,566 LOSE. A LOT OF MONEY. 355 00:11:41,568 --> 00:11:43,201 A LOT OF MONEY. HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING, 356 00:11:43,203 --> 00:11:43,601 HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING, CHRISTOPHER? 357 00:11:43,603 --> 00:11:45,103 CHRISTOPHER? >> IN THE RACES THAT WE ARE 358 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:45,937 >> IN THE RACES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. 359 00:11:45,939 --> 00:11:47,005 TALKING ABOUT. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ONE. 360 00:11:47,007 --> 00:11:48,106 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ONE. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO. 361 00:11:48,108 --> 00:11:49,541 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO. WHICH COVERS THE VAST MAJORITY 362 00:11:49,543 --> 00:11:52,744 WHICH COVERS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW. 363 00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:54,079 OF THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW. GOING FROM NORTHWEST TUCSON ALL 364 00:11:54,081 --> 00:11:57,382 GOING FROM NORTHWEST TUCSON ALL THE WAY TO THE UTAH BORDER. 365 00:11:57,384 --> 00:11:59,551 THE WAY TO THE UTAH BORDER. FOR CD 1. 366 00:11:59,553 --> 00:12:02,520 FOR CD 1. CD 2 FROM CD 1 BORDER TO THE 367 00:12:02,522 --> 00:12:03,154 CD 2 FROM CD 1 BORDER TO THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER. 368 00:12:03,156 --> 00:12:04,689 U.S./MEXICO BORDER. SO WE ARE TALKING THE WHOLE 369 00:12:04,691 --> 00:12:10,729 SO WE ARE TALKING THE WHOLE EASTERN PART OF ARIZONA. 370 00:12:10,731 --> 00:12:12,163 EASTERN PART OF ARIZONA. THESE TWO RACES ARE SOME OF THE 371 00:12:12,165 --> 00:12:13,832 THESE TWO RACES ARE SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE COUNTRY. 372 00:12:13,834 --> 00:12:15,133 MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE COUNTRY. BOTH MAKE TOP TEN. 373 00:12:15,135 --> 00:12:17,168 BOTH MAKE TOP TEN. CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2. 374 00:12:17,170 --> 00:12:18,803 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2. BARBER/SALLY, FOURTH MOST 375 00:12:18,805 --> 00:12:21,906 BARBER/SALLY, FOURTH MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE COUNTRY. 376 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:23,007 EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE COUNTRY. $11.7 MILLION SPENT. 377 00:12:23,009 --> 00:12:27,178 $11.7 MILLION SPENT. CD 1, THE TOBIN/KIRK PATRICK, 378 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:28,713 CD 1, THE TOBIN/KIRK PATRICK, SIXTH MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE 379 00:12:28,715 --> 00:12:29,581 SIXTH MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. 380 00:12:29,583 --> 00:12:31,249 COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. >> TED, WHERE DOES THE MONEY 381 00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:31,916 >> TED, WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM? 382 00:12:31,918 --> 00:12:36,020 COME FROM? >> THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD 383 00:12:36,022 --> 00:12:36,654 >> THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD EXPLAIN. 384 00:12:36,656 --> 00:12:38,790 EXPLAIN. TALKING MONEY RAISED BY THE 385 00:12:38,792 --> 00:12:39,190 TALKING MONEY RAISED BY THE CANDIDATES. 386 00:12:39,192 --> 00:12:41,192 CANDIDATES. WE ARE TALKING OUTSIDE MONEY. 387 00:12:41,194 --> 00:12:43,995 WE ARE TALKING OUTSIDE MONEY. AND THAT, THAT MONEY COMES 388 00:12:43,997 --> 00:12:45,563 AND THAT, THAT MONEY COMES FROM -- ESSENTIALLY THREE 389 00:12:45,565 --> 00:12:47,932 FROM -- ESSENTIALLY THREE DIFFERENT PLACES. 390 00:12:47,934 --> 00:12:50,168 DIFFERENT PLACES. PACS, SUPER PACS. 391 00:12:50,170 --> 00:12:54,639 PACS, SUPER PACS. AND, 501-C-4s, SUPPOSEDLY 392 00:12:54,641 --> 00:12:55,907 AND, 501-C-4s, SUPPOSEDLY EDUCATIONAL, ENTITIES. 393 00:12:55,909 --> 00:12:58,409 EDUCATIONAL, ENTITIES. AS DESIGNATED BY THE IRS. 394 00:12:58,411 --> 00:13:02,347 AS DESIGNATED BY THE IRS. THAT'S WHAT IS CALLED DARK 395 00:13:02,349 --> 00:13:02,947 THAT'S WHAT IS CALLED DARK MONEY. 396 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:04,616 MONEY. WE CAN GO INTO IT A LITTLE MORE. 397 00:13:04,618 --> 00:13:06,317 WE CAN GO INTO IT A LITTLE MORE. SOME ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE. 398 00:13:06,319 --> 00:13:07,952 SOME ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE. PACS ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE 399 00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:09,387 PACS ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE WITH CAMPAIGNS, CORRECT? 400 00:13:09,389 --> 00:13:11,022 WITH CAMPAIGNS, CORRECT? >> YES. 401 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:12,557 >> YES. SUPER PACS CANNOT COORDINATE 402 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,325 SUPER PACS CANNOT COORDINATE WITH CAMPAIGNS AND HAVE NO 403 00:13:14,327 --> 00:13:19,030 WITH CAMPAIGNS AND HAVE NO FINANCIAL RESTRICTIONS ON THEM. 404 00:13:19,032 --> 00:13:20,265 FINANCIAL RESTRICTIONS ON THEM. THEY CAN RAISE AND SPEND AS MUCH 405 00:13:20,267 --> 00:13:21,099 THEY CAN RAISE AND SPEND AS MUCH AS THEY WANT. 406 00:13:21,101 --> 00:13:23,101 AS THEY WANT. >> WE HAVE SEEN CANDIDATES CALL 407 00:13:23,103 --> 00:13:23,768 >> WE HAVE SEEN CANDIDATES CALL EACH OTHER OUT. 408 00:13:23,770 --> 00:13:25,503 EACH OTHER OUT. TOO MUCH MONEY BEING SPEND. 409 00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:26,538 TOO MUCH MONEY BEING SPEND. WORD LIKE DARK MONEY. 410 00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:28,273 WORD LIKE DARK MONEY. EXPLAIN WHAT THE CONCERN IS? 411 00:13:28,275 --> 00:13:30,542 EXPLAIN WHAT THE CONCERN IS? >> THE CONCERN IS -- THE DARK 412 00:13:30,544 --> 00:13:32,777 >> THE CONCERN IS -- THE DARK MONEY IS WHAT TED WAS TALKING 413 00:13:32,779 --> 00:13:34,312 MONEY IS WHAT TED WAS TALKING ABOUT. 414 00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:35,480 ABOUT. 501 C 4s. 415 00:13:35,482 --> 00:13:40,485 501 C 4s. GROUPS LIKE THE KOCH BROTHERS. 416 00:13:40,487 --> 00:13:43,288 GROUPS LIKE THE KOCH BROTHERS. THEY OPERATE AT THE 501 C 4. 417 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:45,023 THEY OPERATE AT THE 501 C 4. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL US, THE 418 00:13:45,025 --> 00:13:47,392 THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL US, THE PUBLIC WHO IS GIVING THEM MONEY. 419 00:13:47,394 --> 00:13:52,463 PUBLIC WHO IS GIVING THEM MONEY. THEY JUST REPORT TO THE IRS. 420 00:13:52,465 --> 00:13:54,599 THEY JUST REPORT TO THE IRS. PACS, SUPER PACS HAVE TO FILE 421 00:13:54,601 --> 00:13:56,201 PACS, SUPER PACS HAVE TO FILE MONTHS LATE, EXPENSE REPORTS. 422 00:13:56,203 --> 00:14:00,071 MONTHS LATE, EXPENSE REPORTS. INCLUDE WHO IS GIVING THEM 423 00:14:00,073 --> 00:14:01,739 INCLUDE WHO IS GIVING THEM MONEY. 424 00:14:01,741 --> 00:14:02,473 MONEY. WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE. 425 00:14:02,475 --> 00:14:03,341 WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE. THEIR ADDRESSES. 426 00:14:03,343 --> 00:14:04,075 THEIR ADDRESSES. WHAT THEY DO. 427 00:14:04,077 --> 00:14:05,677 WHAT THEY DO. ANY TEAM YOU OR I GIVE TO A 428 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,411 ANY TEAM YOU OR I GIVE TO A GROUP LOOK THAT. 429 00:14:06,413 --> 00:14:07,846 GROUP LOOK THAT. OR ANY VIEWERS GIVE TO A GROUP 430 00:14:07,848 --> 00:14:08,346 OR ANY VIEWERS GIVE TO A GROUP LIKE THAT. 431 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:09,881 LIKE THAT. THERE IS A REPORT ON IT. 432 00:14:09,883 --> 00:14:11,149 THERE IS A REPORT ON IT. REPORTERS LIKE TED AND I CAN 433 00:14:11,151 --> 00:14:12,984 REPORTERS LIKE TED AND I CAN GOEN AND LOOK AT THE DATABASE. 434 00:14:12,986 --> 00:14:15,119 GOEN AND LOOK AT THE DATABASE. >> THE SUPER, THE RECALL, 435 00:14:15,121 --> 00:14:17,188 >> THE SUPER, THE RECALL, CITIZENS UNITED DECISION, 436 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:17,889 CITIZENS UNITED DECISION, CONTROVERSIAL, CONTROVERSIAL 437 00:14:17,891 --> 00:14:19,624 CONTROVERSIAL, CONTROVERSIAL SUPREME COURT DECISION. 438 00:14:19,626 --> 00:14:26,564 SUPREME COURT DECISION. THAT IS -- AFFECTED SUPER PACS. 439 00:14:26,566 --> 00:14:29,767 THAT IS -- AFFECTED SUPER PACS. IT WASN'T MATTER OF WHO WAS 440 00:14:29,769 --> 00:14:30,435 IT WASN'T MATTER OF WHO WAS REPORTING THE MONEY. 441 00:14:30,437 --> 00:14:31,402 REPORTING THE MONEY. THE AMOUNT. 442 00:14:31,404 --> 00:14:34,172 THE AMOUNT. ALLOWS TO GIVE, GIVE -- GIVE A 443 00:14:34,174 --> 00:14:44,616 ALLOWS TO GIVE, GIVE -- GIVE A LOT OF MONEY. 444 00:14:44,618 --> 00:14:47,218 LOT OF MONEY. IN ARIZONA, WE ARE IN UNDATED 445 00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:48,720 IN ARIZONA, WE ARE IN UNDATED WITH ADS. 446 00:14:48,722 --> 00:14:50,889 WITH ADS. CAN YOU NAME ONE, TO GIVE AN 447 00:14:50,891 --> 00:14:52,423 CAN YOU NAME ONE, TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE WHAT WE ARE SEEING. 448 00:14:52,425 --> 00:14:55,827 EXAMPLE WHAT WE ARE SEEING. >> THE 501 C-4 WE HAVE SEEN A 449 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:57,428 >> THE 501 C-4 WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF ADS IN ALL THE RACES. 450 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:59,430 NUMBER OF ADS IN ALL THE RACES. THE AD THAT ARE POPPING UP RIGHT 451 00:14:59,432 --> 00:15:00,431 THE AD THAT ARE POPPING UP RIGHT NOW. 452 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:02,166 NOW. ARE, EITHER DIRECT CAMPAIGN. 453 00:15:02,168 --> 00:15:03,368 ARE, EITHER DIRECT CAMPAIGN. NEWEST ADS THAT WE HAVE SEEN 454 00:15:03,370 --> 00:15:04,869 NEWEST ADS THAT WE HAVE SEEN THIS WEEK, ARE FUNDED DIRECTLY 455 00:15:04,871 --> 00:15:06,571 THIS WEEK, ARE FUNDED DIRECTLY BY THE CAMPAIGNS. 456 00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:09,207 BY THE CAMPAIGNS. OR, BEING FUNDED BY THE PARTIES. 457 00:15:09,209 --> 00:15:11,309 OR, BEING FUNDED BY THE PARTIES. THE NATIONAL -- THE REPUBLICAN 458 00:15:11,311 --> 00:15:11,609 THE NATIONAL -- THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. 459 00:15:11,611 --> 00:15:12,877 PARTY. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. 460 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:14,312 THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WE KNOW WHO GIVES OFF TO THAT. 461 00:15:14,314 --> 00:15:16,681 WE KNOW WHO GIVES OFF TO THAT. THOSE ARE SUPER PACS AND PACS. 462 00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:17,949 THOSE ARE SUPER PACS AND PACS. WE KNOW WHO GIVES THEM. 463 00:15:17,951 --> 00:15:19,350 WE KNOW WHO GIVES THEM. AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHOSE ARE 464 00:15:19,352 --> 00:15:20,251 AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHOSE ARE RUNNING THE ADS. 465 00:15:20,253 --> 00:15:21,486 RUNNING THE ADS. BIG AD RIGHT NOW. 466 00:15:21,488 --> 00:15:24,722 BIG AD RIGHT NOW. >> THEY SAY IT ON THE AD. 467 00:15:24,724 --> 00:15:27,225 >> THEY SAY IT ON THE AD. IF A CANDIDATE IS SAYING, I AM 468 00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:29,160 IF A CANDIDATE IS SAYING, I AM MARTHA McSALLY, I APPROVE THE 469 00:15:29,162 --> 00:15:29,427 MARTHA McSALLY, I APPROVE THE AD. 470 00:15:29,429 --> 00:15:30,862 AD. IT IS COMING FROM THE CAMPAIGN. 471 00:15:30,864 --> 00:15:32,597 IT IS COMING FROM THE CAMPAIGN. IF IT SAYS THIS AD IS FUNDED BY 472 00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:36,701 IF IT SAYS THIS AD IS FUNDED BY THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL 473 00:15:36,703 --> 00:15:37,702 THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE. 474 00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:39,170 CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE. THEN WE KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS 475 00:15:39,172 --> 00:15:39,837 THEN WE KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM. 476 00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:41,139 COMING FROM. >> WHO ARE THEY REALLY TRYING TO 477 00:15:41,141 --> 00:15:42,140 >> WHO ARE THEY REALLY TRYING TO REACH AT THIS POINT? 478 00:15:42,142 --> 00:15:43,775 REACH AT THIS POINT? WE SAID BALLOTS ARE ALREADY OUT. 479 00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:45,310 WE SAID BALLOTS ARE ALREADY OUT. A FEW DAYS LEFT TO GO. 480 00:15:45,312 --> 00:15:49,347 A FEW DAYS LEFT TO GO. SO, WHAT IS THE INTENT, WHO ARE 481 00:15:49,349 --> 00:15:50,615 SO, WHAT IS THE INTENT, WHO ARE WE TRYING TO REACH HERE? 482 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:51,883 WE TRYING TO REACH HERE? >> LOGIC TELLS YOU. 483 00:15:51,885 --> 00:15:53,251 >> LOGIC TELLS YOU. NOT JUST TV. 484 00:15:53,253 --> 00:15:55,353 NOT JUST TV. LOOKING ACT A YOUTUBE MUSIC 485 00:15:55,355 --> 00:15:55,653 LOOKING ACT A YOUTUBE MUSIC VIDEO. 486 00:15:55,655 --> 00:15:58,690 VIDEO. UP POPPED AN AD FOR -- FOR, 487 00:15:58,692 --> 00:16:02,460 UP POPPED AN AD FOR -- FOR, MARTHA McSALLY, AGAINST RON 488 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:03,061 MARTHA McSALLY, AGAINST RON BARBER. 489 00:16:03,063 --> 00:16:14,005 BARBER. SO, THEY SEEM TO BE UBIQUITOUS. 490 00:16:14,007 --> 00:16:15,873 SO, THEY SEEM TO BE UBIQUITOUS. 1/3 REPUBLICAN. 491 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:17,475 1/3 REPUBLICAN. 1/3 DEMOCRAT. 492 00:16:17,477 --> 00:16:18,543 1/3 DEMOCRAT. 1/3 INDEPENDENT. 493 00:16:18,545 --> 00:16:20,211 1/3 INDEPENDENT. THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH 494 00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:24,248 THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH UNDECIDED VOTERS OR 495 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:32,357 UNDECIDED VOTERS OR INDEPENDENTS. 496 00:16:32,359 --> 00:16:37,362 INDEPENDENTS. IF YOU DO SOMETHINGEFFECTIVE YO 497 00:16:37,364 --> 00:16:37,829 IF YOU DO SOMETHINGEFFECTIVE YO REACH YOUR BASE. 498 00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:38,863 REACH YOUR BASE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VOTING BY 499 00:16:38,865 --> 00:16:39,197 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VOTING BY MAIL. 500 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:42,333 MAIL. >> SURE. 501 00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:46,804 >> SURE. CHRIST FER? 502 00:16:46,806 --> 00:16:48,006 CHRIST FER? -- CHRISTOPHER. 503 00:16:48,008 --> 00:16:51,843 -- CHRISTOPHER. >> EARLIER, IN MARICOPA, BALLOTS 504 00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:53,211 >> EARLIER, IN MARICOPA, BALLOTS WERE BACK, READY TO BE COUNTED 505 00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:54,345 WERE BACK, READY TO BE COUNTED ON ELECTION NIGHT. 506 00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:57,982 ON ELECTION NIGHT. IN MARICOPA, THE NUMBER IS IN 507 00:16:57,984 --> 00:16:59,951 IN MARICOPA, THE NUMBER IS IN THE HIGH TEENS, AS OF THIS WEEK. 508 00:16:59,953 --> 00:17:03,054 THE HIGH TEENS, AS OF THIS WEEK. OFFICIALS SAY WE ARE IN THE 509 00:17:03,056 --> 00:17:04,822 OFFICIALS SAY WE ARE IN THE QUIET, PEOPLE GOT THEIR BALLOTS. 510 00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:05,656 QUIET, PEOPLE GOT THEIR BALLOTS. VOTED SENT THEM BACK. 511 00:17:05,658 --> 00:17:07,458 VOTED SENT THEM BACK. THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE 512 00:17:07,460 --> 00:17:08,893 THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE UNDECIDED OR MAYBE JUST HAVEN'T 513 00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:10,361 UNDECIDED OR MAYBE JUST HAVEN'T SENT THEM BACK YET. 514 00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:11,929 SENT THEM BACK YET. THAT'S WHO THOSE ADS ARE 515 00:17:11,931 --> 00:17:12,296 THAT'S WHO THOSE ADS ARE TARGETING. 516 00:17:12,298 --> 00:17:13,765 TARGETING. THOSE EARLY BALLOTS THAT ARE 517 00:17:13,767 --> 00:17:14,032 THOSE EARLY BALLOTS THAT ARE OUT. 518 00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:15,500 OUT. THEN THERE ARE THE UNDECIDED 519 00:17:15,502 --> 00:17:15,833 THEN THERE ARE THE UNDECIDED VOTERS. 520 00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:17,268 VOTERS. AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL, 521 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:18,770 AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL, BECOMING A SMALLER, SMALLER 522 00:17:18,772 --> 00:17:21,172 BECOMING A SMALLER, SMALLER NUMBER WILL GO TO THE POLLS ON 523 00:17:21,174 --> 00:17:21,906 NUMBER WILL GO TO THE POLLS ON ELECTION DAY. 524 00:17:21,908 --> 00:17:23,074 ELECTION DAY. 11 DAYS FROM NOW. 525 00:17:23,076 --> 00:17:23,908 11 DAYS FROM NOW. >> OKAY. 526 00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:25,043 >> OKAY. TED, I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST 527 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:25,676 TED, I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD ON THIS. 528 00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:27,045 WORD ON THIS. IT COMES DONE TO MONEY. 529 00:17:27,047 --> 00:17:28,312 IT COMES DONE TO MONEY. WE ARE HEARING THAT EVERY YEAR 530 00:17:28,314 --> 00:17:29,680 WE ARE HEARING THAT EVERY YEAR WE ARE SPENDING MORE AND MORE ON 531 00:17:29,682 --> 00:17:30,548 WE ARE SPENDING MORE AND MORE ON THE CAMPAIGNS. 532 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:34,352 THE CAMPAIGNS. HOW MUCH DOES MONEY REALLY PLAY 533 00:17:34,354 --> 00:17:40,525 HOW MUCH DOES MONEY REALLY PLAY A ROLE? 534 00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:42,593 A ROLE? THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF RACES. 535 00:17:42,595 --> 00:17:45,763 THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF RACES. A MATTER OF SPENDING 536 00:17:45,765 --> 00:17:46,164 A MATTER OF SPENDING EFFECTIVELY. 537 00:17:46,166 --> 00:17:46,898 EFFECTIVELY. I DON'T KNOW THAT, WHAT, THIS IS 538 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:50,835 I DON'T KNOW THAT, WHAT, THIS IS WITHIN OF THOSE, LET'S SEE WHO 539 00:17:50,837 --> 00:17:51,135 WITHIN OF THOSE, LET'S SEE WHO WINS. 540 00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:52,103 WINS. IN THE CASE OF THE TWO 541 00:17:52,105 --> 00:17:53,304 IN THE CASE OF THE TWO CONGRESSIONAL RACES, BOTH SIDES 542 00:17:53,306 --> 00:17:55,573 CONGRESSIONAL RACES, BOTH SIDES ARE SPENDING -- HUGE AMOUNTS OF 543 00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:59,310 ARE SPENDING -- HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR -- AND AGAINST. 544 00:17:59,312 --> 00:18:02,013 MONEY FOR -- AND AGAINST. SO IT COMES DOWN TO -- 545 00:18:02,015 --> 00:18:03,081 SO IT COMES DOWN TO -- ADVERTISING IN GENERAL. 546 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,849 ADVERTISING IN GENERAL. IF ADVERTISING IS UNANSWERED. 547 00:18:04,851 --> 00:18:06,284 IF ADVERTISING IS UNANSWERED. IT TEND TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE 548 00:18:06,286 --> 00:18:09,053 IT TEND TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN IF IT IS, IF SOMEBODY, IF 549 00:18:09,055 --> 00:18:11,656 THAN IF IT IS, IF SOMEBODY, IF THE OTHER SIDE ANSWERS IT. 550 00:18:11,658 --> 00:18:16,060 THE OTHER SIDE ANSWERS IT. SO IT COULDEN END OF BEING AN 551 00:18:16,062 --> 00:18:17,762 SO IT COULDEN END OF BEING AN EXPENSIVE WASH OR COULD END UP, 552 00:18:17,764 --> 00:18:19,197 EXPENSIVE WASH OR COULD END UP, SEEING TWO VERY CLOSE RACES. 553 00:18:19,199 --> 00:18:20,031 SEEING TWO VERY CLOSE RACES. >> TIME WILL TELL. 554 00:18:20,033 --> 00:18:24,335 >> TIME WILL TELL. WE WILL KNOW THAT SHORTLY. 555 00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:26,537 WE WILL KNOW THAT SHORTLY. TED ROBBINS, CHRISTOPHER 556 00:18:26,539 --> 00:18:26,871 TED ROBBINS, CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. 557 00:18:26,873 --> 00:18:27,738 CONOVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 558 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,107 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHRISTOPHER, WE WILL SEE YOU IN 559 00:18:29,109 --> 00:18:30,174 CHRISTOPHER, WE WILL SEE YOU IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. 560 00:18:30,176 --> 00:18:32,210 JUST A FEW MINUTES. >> THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE, 561 00:18:32,212 --> 00:18:32,877 >> THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE, CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. 562 00:18:32,879 --> 00:18:34,312 CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WE HAVE 563 00:18:34,314 --> 00:18:35,980 IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WE HAVE BEEN FEATURING CLIPS FROM 564 00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:39,550 BEEN FEATURING CLIPS FROM DEBATES HELD AT SISTER NATION, 565 00:18:39,552 --> 00:18:42,353 DEBATES HELD AT SISTER NATION, IN PHOENIX, KAET, SECRETARY OF 566 00:18:42,355 --> 00:18:43,988 IN PHOENIX, KAET, SECRETARY OF STATE AND PUBLIC INSTRUCTION. 567 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:46,557 STATE AND PUBLIC INSTRUCTION. WHO IS IN THAT RACE? 568 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:50,361 WHO IS IN THAT RACE? PUBLIC IN TRUSTRUCTIOINSTRUCTIO. 569 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,763 PUBLIC IN TRUSTRUCTIOINSTRUCTIO. AND THE ISSUE, BOILS DOWN TO ONE 570 00:18:52,765 --> 00:18:53,064 AND THE ISSUE, BOILS DOWN TO ONE THING. 571 00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:53,664 THING. COMMON CORE. 572 00:18:53,666 --> 00:18:55,533 COMMON CORE. WHETHER YOU SUPPORT IT OR DON'T. 573 00:18:55,535 --> 00:18:57,001 WHETHER YOU SUPPORT IT OR DON'T. HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT COMMON CORE 574 00:18:57,003 --> 00:18:58,469 HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT COMMON CORE IS HOW YOU WILL VOTE IN THIS 575 00:18:58,471 --> 00:18:58,903 IS HOW YOU WILL VOTE IN THIS RACE. 576 00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:04,142 RACE. >> WELL SHOULD CLAIRE CLAIRRIFY. 577 00:19:04,144 --> 00:19:05,109 >> WELL SHOULD CLAIRE CLAIRRIFY. AND IT IS KNOWN AS COMMON CORE. 578 00:19:05,111 --> 00:19:07,044 AND IT IS KNOWN AS COMMON CORE. IT IS AN ISSUE OF CONTENTION IN 579 00:19:07,046 --> 00:19:11,349 IT IS AN ISSUE OF CONTENTION IN THAT DEBATE. 580 00:19:11,351 --> 00:19:13,017 THAT DEBATE. WE HAVE STANDARD THAT WE CAN'T 581 00:19:13,019 --> 00:19:13,351 WE HAVE STANDARD THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL. 582 00:19:13,353 --> 00:19:14,118 CONTROL. WE CAN'T CHANGE. 583 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,286 WE CAN'T CHANGE. OR WE CAN'T MAKE SURE THEY WORK 584 00:19:15,288 --> 00:19:16,053 OR WE CAN'T MAKE SURE THEY WORK FOR ARIZONA. 585 00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:17,588 FOR ARIZONA. THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR 586 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:20,858 THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR ARIZONA EDUCATION. 587 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:22,059 ARIZONA EDUCATION. >> EVEN MY, EVEN WITHIN MY, 588 00:19:22,061 --> 00:19:23,127 >> EVEN MY, EVEN WITHIN MY, WITHIN MY OPPONENT'S PARTY. 589 00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:24,962 WITHIN MY OPPONENT'S PARTY. HER POSITION IS EXTREME. 590 00:19:24,964 --> 00:19:26,764 HER POSITION IS EXTREME. AND, FOLKS ARE READY TO 591 00:19:26,766 --> 00:19:28,065 AND, FOLKS ARE READY TO IMPLEMENT, THE HIGH ACADEMIC 592 00:19:28,067 --> 00:19:29,367 IMPLEMENT, THE HIGH ACADEMIC STANDARDS IN THE WAY THAT IT IS 593 00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:32,870 STANDARDS IN THE WAY THAT IT IS BEST FOR ARIZONA. 594 00:19:32,872 --> 00:19:35,473 BEST FOR ARIZONA. STATES DEVIL OF TUC DEVELOP THE. 595 00:19:35,475 --> 00:19:36,641 STATES DEVIL OF TUC DEVELOP THE. STATES CAN CHANGE THEM. 596 00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:38,242 STATES CAN CHANGE THEM. I AM READY TO BE IN POSITION. 597 00:19:38,244 --> 00:19:40,511 I AM READY TO BE IN POSITION. A NATIONAL LEADER TO MAKE SURE, 598 00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:42,079 A NATIONAL LEADER TO MAKE SURE, THAT OUR ACADEMIC STANDARD WORK 599 00:19:42,081 --> 00:19:43,281 THAT OUR ACADEMIC STANDARD WORK BEST FOR ARIZONA. 600 00:19:43,283 --> 00:19:45,249 BEST FOR ARIZONA. >> NOW, DIANE DOUGLAS SAYS THAT 601 00:19:45,251 --> 00:19:47,451 >> NOW, DIANE DOUGLAS SAYS THAT THIS IS A, TOO MUCH OF A FEDERAL 602 00:19:47,453 --> 00:19:47,952 THIS IS A, TOO MUCH OF A FEDERAL OVERREACH. 603 00:19:47,954 --> 00:19:50,521 OVERREACH. DAVID GARCIA, WHO IS Ph.D. IN 604 00:19:50,523 --> 00:19:52,757 DAVID GARCIA, WHO IS Ph.D. IN EDUCATION HAS A LONG HISTORY IN 605 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:53,124 EDUCATION HAS A LONG HISTORY IN EDUCATION. 606 00:19:53,126 --> 00:19:57,228 EDUCATION. SAYS THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT THE 607 00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:58,462 SAYS THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT THE WAY HE SEES IT. 608 00:19:58,464 --> 00:19:59,964 WAY HE SEES IT. >> THIS AGAIN IS THE CORE ISSUE 609 00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:01,832 >> THIS AGAIN IS THE CORE ISSUE OF THE RACE. 610 00:20:01,834 --> 00:20:03,868 OF THE RACE. IT IS INTERESTING WHEN HE SAYS 611 00:20:03,870 --> 00:20:05,870 IT IS INTERESTING WHEN HE SAYS THAT, DOUGLAS' POSITION IS 612 00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:06,204 THAT, DOUGLAS' POSITION IS EXTREME. 613 00:20:06,206 --> 00:20:07,371 EXTREME. EVEN IN HER OWN PARTY. 614 00:20:07,373 --> 00:20:09,040 EVEN IN HER OWN PARTY. BECAUSE HE IS PICKING UP 615 00:20:09,042 --> 00:20:13,177 BECAUSE HE IS PICKING UP REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENTS IN THIS 616 00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:13,477 REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENTS IN THIS RACE. 617 00:20:13,479 --> 00:20:15,313 RACE. AND ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA. 618 00:20:15,315 --> 00:20:17,048 AND ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA. REPUBLICANS, CROSSING OVER, AND 619 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:18,449 REPUBLICANS, CROSSING OVER, AND ENDORSING DEMOCRATS IN THE 620 00:20:18,451 --> 00:20:19,083 ENDORSING DEMOCRATS IN THE STATEWIDE RACES. 621 00:20:19,085 --> 00:20:20,785 STATEWIDE RACES. SURE WE SEE IT FROM TIME TO 622 00:20:20,787 --> 00:20:21,085 SURE WE SEE IT FROM TIME TO TIME. 623 00:20:21,087 --> 00:20:22,119 TIME. AND, IN THE RACES. 624 00:20:22,121 --> 00:20:23,254 AND, IN THE RACES. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE 625 00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:24,021 BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN THIS YEAR. 626 00:20:24,023 --> 00:20:25,323 SEEN THIS YEAR. AND THIS HAS BEEN THE RACE WHERE 627 00:20:25,325 --> 00:20:27,425 AND THIS HAS BEEN THE RACE WHERE IT HAS BEEN MOST NOTABLE. 628 00:20:27,427 --> 00:20:29,260 IT HAS BEEN MOST NOTABLE. >> VERY FIERCE DEBATE IN THIS, 629 00:20:29,262 --> 00:20:31,162 >> VERY FIERCE DEBATE IN THIS, IN THIS RACE, IS, WHY HAVEN'T 630 00:20:31,164 --> 00:20:32,597 IN THIS RACE, IS, WHY HAVEN'T THEY DEBATED EACH OTHER MORE 631 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:33,531 THEY DEBATED EACH OTHER MORE FREX WENTLY. 632 00:20:33,533 --> 00:20:36,133 FREX WENTLY. WE ALSO ARE NOT VERY MANY 633 00:20:36,135 --> 00:20:36,534 WE ALSO ARE NOT VERY MANY PRECEDENTS. 634 00:20:36,536 --> 00:20:38,502 PRECEDENTS. DIANE DOUGLAS. 635 00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:40,571 DIANE DOUGLAS. DAVID GARCIA, EASILY AVAILABLE 636 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:41,305 DAVID GARCIA, EASILY AVAILABLE TO THE PRESS. 637 00:20:41,307 --> 00:20:43,007 TO THE PRESS. WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO 638 00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:44,108 WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. 639 00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:45,910 ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. >> WE HAVE TRIED TO SET UP SOME 640 00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:46,244 >> WE HAVE TRIED TO SET UP SOME THINGS. 641 00:20:46,246 --> 00:20:49,547 THINGS. DOWN HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 642 00:20:49,549 --> 00:20:50,514 DOWN HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. WITH BOTH CANDIDATES. 643 00:20:50,516 --> 00:20:51,749 WITH BOTH CANDIDATES. HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE 644 00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:53,784 HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE REPUBLICAN DIANE DOUGLAS IN. 645 00:20:53,786 --> 00:20:55,753 REPUBLICAN DIANE DOUGLAS IN. ONE OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO 646 00:20:55,755 --> 00:20:57,788 ONE OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO APPEARED ON THIS SHOW, SHE 647 00:20:57,790 --> 00:21:00,825 APPEARED ON THIS SHOW, SHE COVERS EDUCATION, SHE HAS HAD 648 00:21:00,827 --> 00:21:01,158 COVERS EDUCATION, SHE HAS HAD TROUBLE. 649 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,560 TROUBLE. THIS IS -- HAS BEEN AN ISSUE 650 00:21:02,562 --> 00:21:04,362 THIS IS -- HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH REPUBLICANS ON A NUMBER OF 651 00:21:04,364 --> 00:21:06,097 WITH REPUBLICANS ON A NUMBER OF THINGS HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 652 00:21:06,099 --> 00:21:07,565 THINGS HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. WE TRIED TO SET UP SOME DEBATES 653 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:08,966 WE TRIED TO SET UP SOME DEBATES AND THINGS AND JUST COULDN'T GET 654 00:21:08,968 --> 00:21:11,035 AND THINGS AND JUST COULDN'T GET THE REPUBLICANS TO COME IN. 655 00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:12,436 THE REPUBLICANS TO COME IN. THERE WERE DEBATES HELD BY OTHER 656 00:21:12,438 --> 00:21:14,338 THERE WERE DEBATES HELD BY OTHER GROUPS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA OR 657 00:21:14,340 --> 00:21:15,773 GROUPS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA OR PLANNED BY OTHER GROUPS IN 658 00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:20,344 PLANNED BY OTHER GROUPS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 659 00:21:20,346 --> 00:21:23,080 SOUTHERN ARIZONA. FOR EXAM PUPLE, HOPING TO HAVE E 660 00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:26,083 FOR EXAM PUPLE, HOPING TO HAVE E THAN ONE GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE 661 00:21:26,085 --> 00:21:26,450 THAN ONE GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE DOWN HERE. 662 00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:28,486 DOWN HERE. WE ONLY HAD ONE DEBATE WHERE ALL 663 00:21:28,488 --> 00:21:29,253 WE ONLY HAD ONE DEBATE WHERE ALL CANDIDATES APPEARED. 664 00:21:29,255 --> 00:21:31,422 CANDIDATES APPEARED. >> THERE IS TALK IN LOCAL 665 00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:33,057 >> THERE IS TALK IN LOCAL CIRCLES, REPUBLICANS ARE BOWING 666 00:21:33,059 --> 00:21:34,158 CIRCLES, REPUBLICANS ARE BOWING OUT OF SOME DEBATES. 667 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,161 OUT OF SOME DEBATES. DEMOCRATS ARE ANXIOUS TO DEEP 668 00:21:37,163 --> 00:21:37,862 DEMOCRATS ARE ANXIOUS TO DEEP BADEEP 669 00:21:37,864 --> 00:21:39,830 BADEEP -- TO DEBATE THE ISSUES. 670 00:21:39,832 --> 00:21:41,265 -- TO DEBATE THE ISSUES. >> THERE HAS BEEN THE TALK. 671 00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:43,034 >> THERE HAS BEEN THE TALK. NOT DOING DEBATES IS A SAFE 672 00:21:43,036 --> 00:21:43,401 NOT DOING DEBATES IS A SAFE STRATEGY. 673 00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:44,402 STRATEGY. YOU CAN'T GET YOURSELF IN 674 00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:45,269 YOU CAN'T GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE SAYING SOMETHING IF YOU 675 00:21:45,271 --> 00:21:48,105 TROUBLE SAYING SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T APPEAR. 676 00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:50,374 DON'T APPEAR. IT'S A TWO-EDGED SWORD. 677 00:21:50,376 --> 00:21:51,942 IT'S A TWO-EDGED SWORD. WE ARE CERTAINLY SEEING PLENTY 678 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:55,479 WE ARE CERTAINLY SEEING PLENTY OF THE REPUBLICAN MESSAGE VIA 679 00:21:55,481 --> 00:22:01,285 OF THE REPUBLICAN MESSAGE VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, VIA TELEVISION, 680 00:22:01,287 --> 00:22:03,020 SOCIAL MEDIA, VIA TELEVISION, ADVERTISING, MY AMAILBOXES FILLD 681 00:22:03,022 --> 00:22:04,355 ADVERTISING, MY AMAILBOXES FILLD UP WITH ADVERTISING BOTH SIDE 682 00:22:04,357 --> 00:22:04,889 UP WITH ADVERTISING BOTH SIDE ALL THE TIME. 683 00:22:04,891 --> 00:22:06,524 ALL THE TIME. WE ARE SEEING THEIR MESSAGES 684 00:22:06,526 --> 00:22:06,857 WE ARE SEEING THEIR MESSAGES PLENTY. 685 00:22:06,859 --> 00:22:09,493 PLENTY. WE ARE JUST NOT SEEING THEM IN 686 00:22:09,495 --> 00:22:09,894 WE ARE JUST NOT SEEING THEM IN PERSON. 687 00:22:09,896 --> 00:22:11,696 PERSON. IT IS WHAT WE THINK OF AS 688 00:22:11,698 --> 00:22:12,930 IT IS WHAT WE THINK OF AS TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN EVENTS. 689 00:22:12,932 --> 00:22:13,964 TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN EVENTS. THEY'RE HERE. 690 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:15,466 THEY'RE HERE. THEY ARE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 691 00:22:15,468 --> 00:22:16,567 THEY ARE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE STATE. 692 00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:18,169 THEY'RE ALL OVER THE STATE. BUT IT IS SMALL EVENTS. 693 00:22:18,171 --> 00:22:20,871 BUT IT IS SMALL EVENTS. BUT NOT THE BIG, WHAT WE THINK 694 00:22:20,873 --> 00:22:22,440 BUT NOT THE BIG, WHAT WE THINK OF AS TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN 695 00:22:22,442 --> 00:22:22,773 OF AS TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN EVENTS. 696 00:22:22,775 --> 00:22:23,474 EVENTS. >> OKAY. 697 00:22:23,476 --> 00:22:24,842 >> OKAY. AS TO BE EXPECTED. 698 00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:27,144 AS TO BE EXPECTED. DAVID GARCIA DID CALL OUT DIANE 699 00:22:27,146 --> 00:22:28,546 DAVID GARCIA DID CALL OUT DIANE DOUGLAS IN THE DEBATE IN 700 00:22:28,548 --> 00:22:28,979 DOUGLAS IN THE DEBATE IN PHOENIX. 701 00:22:28,981 --> 00:22:31,582 PHOENIX. LET'S LISTEN TO THAT NOW. 702 00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:33,617 LET'S LISTEN TO THAT NOW. >> WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT 703 00:22:33,619 --> 00:22:35,886 >> WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MY OPPONENT WOULD LIKE MY 704 00:22:35,888 --> 00:22:36,987 WHAT MY OPPONENT WOULD LIKE MY CAMPAIGN SCHEDULE TO BE. 705 00:22:36,989 --> 00:22:39,056 CAMPAIGN SCHEDULE TO BE. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT 706 00:22:39,058 --> 00:22:39,523 I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. 707 00:22:39,525 --> 00:22:41,292 EDUCATION. >> CAMPAIGN SCHEDULES ONE 708 00:22:41,294 --> 00:22:41,826 >> CAMPAIGN SCHEDULES ONE SECOND, TED. 709 00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:43,427 SECOND, TED. FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, FIVE 710 00:22:43,429 --> 00:22:44,729 FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, FIVE DEBATES IN FOUR PARTIES. 711 00:22:44,731 --> 00:22:49,667 DEBATES IN FOUR PARTIES. A FOUR PARTY, PINAL, IN 712 00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:50,701 A FOUR PARTY, PINAL, IN MARICOPA, UNIVERSITY WOMEN 713 00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:52,069 MARICOPA, UNIVERSITY WOMEN DEBATE, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS 714 00:22:52,071 --> 00:22:55,606 DEBATE, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS IN TUCSON, AND, A DEBATE IN 715 00:22:55,608 --> 00:22:55,973 IN TUCSON, AND, A DEBATE IN MARICOPA. 716 00:22:55,975 --> 00:22:57,174 MARICOPA. I HAVE CONFIRMED MY ATTENDANCE 717 00:22:57,176 --> 00:22:58,209 I HAVE CONFIRMED MY ATTENDANCE TO EVERY ONE. 718 00:22:58,211 --> 00:22:59,610 TO EVERY ONE. AND ASKING MY OPPONENT TO DO THE 719 00:22:59,612 --> 00:22:59,910 AND ASKING MY OPPONENT TO DO THE SAME. 720 00:22:59,912 --> 00:23:03,948 SAME. >> I AM NOT, SIR, ALLOWING YOU 721 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:04,782 >> I AM NOT, SIR, ALLOWING YOU TO RUN MY CAMPAIGN. 722 00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:07,218 TO RUN MY CAMPAIGN. I THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BE MY 723 00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:07,585 I THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BE MY SCHEDULER. 724 00:23:07,587 --> 00:23:09,653 SCHEDULER. I HAVE A CAPABLE, WONDERFUL 725 00:23:09,655 --> 00:23:10,521 I HAVE A CAPABLE, WONDERFUL WOMAN DOING THAT. 726 00:23:10,523 --> 00:23:12,189 WOMAN DOING THAT. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT 727 00:23:12,191 --> 00:23:12,556 I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. 728 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:15,059 EDUCATION. >> OKAY. 729 00:23:15,061 --> 00:23:17,528 >> OKAY. OKAY, PRETTY NASTY EXCHANGE. 730 00:23:17,530 --> 00:23:22,066 OKAY, PRETTY NASTY EXCHANGE. FOR THOSE VOTERS AT HOME WITH 731 00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:23,100 FOR THOSE VOTERS AT HOME WITH BAL LOT 732 00:23:23,102 --> 00:23:24,668 BAL LOT BALLOTS, PLANNING TO HEAD TO THE 733 00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:25,536 BALLOTS, PLANNING TO HEAD TO THE ELECTION POLLING PLACE, DOES 734 00:23:25,538 --> 00:23:26,871 ELECTION POLLING PLACE, DOES THAT IMPACT THE WAY THEY FEEL 735 00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:27,772 THAT IMPACT THE WAY THEY FEEL ABOUT THE RACE? 736 00:23:27,774 --> 00:23:29,073 ABOUT THE RACE? >> THAT IS REALLY TOUGH OFF TO 737 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:29,373 >> THAT IS REALLY TOUGH OFF TO GAUGE. 738 00:23:29,375 --> 00:23:33,377 GAUGE. LIKE I SAID THERE IS INFORMATION 739 00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:34,812 LIKE I SAID THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. 740 00:23:34,814 --> 00:23:38,182 OUT THERE. THE NEWSPAPERS IN THE STATE 741 00:23:38,184 --> 00:23:39,350 THE NEWSPAPERS IN THE STATE HATCH WRHAVE 742 00:23:39,352 --> 00:23:40,017 HATCH WRHAVE WRITTEN STORIES ON ALL THE 743 00:23:40,019 --> 00:23:40,317 WRITTEN STORIES ON ALL THE RACES. 744 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:41,085 RACES. WE COVERED ALL THE RACES. 745 00:23:41,087 --> 00:23:45,689 WE COVERED ALL THE RACES. THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. 746 00:23:45,691 --> 00:23:46,791 THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. HOPEFULLY PEOPLE DON'T GET 747 00:23:46,793 --> 00:23:47,992 HOPEFULLY PEOPLE DON'T GET INFORMATION FROM TV AD OR 748 00:23:47,994 --> 00:23:48,793 INFORMATION FROM TV AD OR MAILERS THAT SHOW UP. 749 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:52,830 MAILERS THAT SHOW UP. BUT THERE IS INFORMATION OUT 750 00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:56,734 BUT THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. 751 00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:57,902 THERE. AND THE REPUBLICANS THEY VOTE 752 00:23:57,904 --> 00:23:59,003 AND THE REPUBLICANS THEY VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICANS. 753 00:23:59,005 --> 00:24:00,070 FOR THE REPUBLICANS. THE DEMOCRATS THEY STROELT FOR 754 00:24:00,072 --> 00:24:01,272 THE DEMOCRATS THEY STROELT FOR THE DEMOCRAT. 755 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:03,140 THE DEMOCRAT. SO, THE LACK OF INFORMATION -- 756 00:24:03,142 --> 00:24:04,942 SO, THE LACK OF INFORMATION -- THE LACK OF DEBATES, NOT EVEN A 757 00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:06,911 THE LACK OF DEBATES, NOT EVEN A LACK OF INFORMATION, THE LACK OF 758 00:24:06,913 --> 00:24:08,779 LACK OF INFORMATION, THE LACK OF DEBATES, MAY NOT BE QUITE THE 759 00:24:08,781 --> 00:24:10,014 DEBATES, MAY NOT BE QUITE THE ISSUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. 760 00:24:10,016 --> 00:24:12,316 ISSUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT IS OUR JOB TO TALK TO -- TO 761 00:24:12,318 --> 00:24:13,384 IT IS OUR JOB TO TALK TO -- TO THESE CANDIDATES. 762 00:24:13,386 --> 00:24:14,952 THESE CANDIDATES. AND, IF WEAVE CAN'T TALK TO THEM 763 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:16,921 AND, IF WEAVE CAN'T TALK TO THEM AS READILY AS WE WOULD LOOK TO. 764 00:24:16,923 --> 00:24:18,189 AS READILY AS WE WOULD LOOK TO. SOMETIMES THAT CAN BEEP 765 00:24:18,191 --> 00:24:18,656 SOMETIMES THAT CAN BEEP FRUSTRATING. 766 00:24:18,658 --> 00:24:20,524 FRUSTRATING. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO SECRETARY OF 767 00:24:20,526 --> 00:24:21,058 >> LET'S MOVE ON TO SECRETARY OF STATE RACE. 768 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:24,028 STATE RACE. THERE WE HAVE DEMOCRATS, HARRY 769 00:24:24,030 --> 00:24:25,396 THERE WE HAVE DEMOCRATS, HARRY GODDARD, FACING A REPUBLICAN. 770 00:24:25,398 --> 00:24:27,531 GODDARD, FACING A REPUBLICAN. TERRY GODDARD. 771 00:24:27,533 --> 00:24:28,666 TERRY GODDARD. FAMILIAR IN THE POLITICAL SCENE 772 00:24:28,668 --> 00:24:29,333 FAMILIAR IN THE POLITICAL SCENE IN ARIZONA. 773 00:24:29,335 --> 00:24:31,101 IN ARIZONA. THIS DEBATE HELD NOT TOO LONG 774 00:24:31,103 --> 00:24:31,936 THIS DEBATE HELD NOT TOO LONG AGO. 775 00:24:31,938 --> 00:24:33,170 AGO. LET'S TUNE INTO THAT NOW. 776 00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:35,673 LET'S TUNE INTO THAT NOW. >> I BELIEF I AM QUALIFIED TO DO 777 00:24:35,675 --> 00:24:40,311 >> I BELIEF I AM QUALIFIED TO DO WHEREVER I -- END UP SERVING. 778 00:24:40,313 --> 00:24:41,545 WHEREVER I -- END UP SERVING. I WRIL, WHENEVER I AM CALLED ON 779 00:24:41,547 --> 00:24:42,413 I WRIL, WHENEVER I AM CALLED ON TO SERVE. 780 00:24:42,415 --> 00:24:43,814 TO SERVE. I WILL BE QUALIFIED. 781 00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:45,649 I WILL BE QUALIFIED. GIVEN ALL THE EXPERIENCE IN THE 782 00:24:45,651 --> 00:24:46,050 GIVEN ALL THE EXPERIENCE IN THE LEGISLATURE. 783 00:24:46,052 --> 00:24:47,618 LEGISLATURE. THEN ALSO MY PRIVATE SECTOR 784 00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:48,018 THEN ALSO MY PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE. 785 00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:49,353 EXPERIENCE. I HAVE HAD GROWING A FAMILY 786 00:24:49,355 --> 00:24:50,588 I HAVE HAD GROWING A FAMILY BUSINESS BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. 787 00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:52,223 BUSINESS BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. >> THAT INCLUDES GOVERNOR OF 788 00:24:52,225 --> 00:24:52,556 >> THAT INCLUDES GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA? 789 00:24:52,558 --> 00:24:53,524 ARIZONA? >> ABSOLUTELY. 790 00:24:53,526 --> 00:24:58,562 >> ABSOLUTELY. IF I WAS, CALLED ON TO SERVE AS 791 00:24:58,564 --> 00:24:58,996 IF I WAS, CALLED ON TO SERVE AS GOVERNOR. 792 00:24:58,998 --> 00:25:00,164 GOVERNOR. I WOULD BE JUST FINE. 793 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:00,998 I WOULD BE JUST FINE. IT WOULD BE TOUGH. 794 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,399 IT WOULD BE TOUGH. I WOULD BE FINE. 795 00:25:02,401 --> 00:25:04,134 I WOULD BE FINE. DRAW ON ALL THE EXPERIENCE I HAD 796 00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:05,503 DRAW ON ALL THE EXPERIENCE I HAD WALKING THE HALLS OF THE 797 00:25:05,505 --> 00:25:06,604 WALKING THE HALLS OF THE CAPITOL, GROWING A SMALL 798 00:25:06,606 --> 00:25:06,971 CAPITOL, GROWING A SMALL BUSINESS. 799 00:25:06,973 --> 00:25:08,606 BUSINESS. >> ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO BE 800 00:25:08,608 --> 00:25:09,507 >> ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO BE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA? 801 00:25:09,509 --> 00:25:11,275 GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA? >> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE I AM. 802 00:25:11,277 --> 00:25:13,777 >> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE I AM. >> HOW COME? 803 00:25:13,779 --> 00:25:16,080 >> HOW COME? >> AS MAYOR UNFORTUNAOF PHOENIX 804 00:25:16,082 --> 00:25:17,548 >> AS MAYOR UNFORTUNAOF PHOENIX MEET A BUDGET, WORK WITH 805 00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:18,582 MEET A BUDGET, WORK WITH COUNCIL, PUT TOGETHER A 806 00:25:18,584 --> 00:25:19,316 COUNCIL, PUT TOGETHER A DIFFICULT SITUATION. 807 00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:19,984 DIFFICULT SITUATION. MADE IT WORK. 808 00:25:19,986 --> 00:25:21,752 MADE IT WORK. AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, I 809 00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:22,753 AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, I REPRESENTED ALL AGENCIES BUT 810 00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:23,921 REPRESENTED ALL AGENCIES BUT FIVE IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT. 811 00:25:23,923 --> 00:25:25,422 FIVE IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT. I KNOW THE INNERMOST THOUGHTS. 812 00:25:25,424 --> 00:25:26,790 I KNOW THE INNERMOST THOUGHTS. AND I KNOW THEIR PROBLEMS. 813 00:25:26,792 --> 00:25:28,959 AND I KNOW THEIR PROBLEMS. AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL 814 00:25:28,961 --> 00:25:29,426 AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL RESPONSIBILITY. 815 00:25:29,428 --> 00:25:30,761 RESPONSIBILITY. I HAD TO MEET A BUDGET. 816 00:25:30,763 --> 00:25:32,162 I HAD TO MEET A BUDGET. IT IS A CHALLENGE. 817 00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:33,364 IT IS A CHALLENGE. BUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING 818 00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:34,932 BUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME IS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS 819 00:25:34,934 --> 00:25:36,834 FOR ME IS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A STATE THAT IS IN SERIOUS 820 00:25:36,836 --> 00:25:37,167 A STATE THAT IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE. 821 00:25:37,169 --> 00:25:38,435 TROUBLE. IN TROUBLE BECAUSE IT IS 822 00:25:38,437 --> 00:25:40,504 IN TROUBLE BECAUSE IT IS ELECTION SYSTEM IS, IS IN DECAY. 823 00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:41,438 ELECTION SYSTEM IS, IS IN DECAY. IT IS IN COLLAPSE. 824 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,573 IT IS IN COLLAPSE. AND WE NEED TO FIX IT. 825 00:25:42,575 --> 00:25:45,209 AND WE NEED TO FIX IT. SO THAT'S THE FOCUS FOR ME. 826 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:46,977 SO THAT'S THE FOCUS FOR ME. >> LORAIN, SOME PEOPLE MAY BE 827 00:25:46,979 --> 00:25:48,279 >> LORAIN, SOME PEOPLE MAY BE CONFUSED WHY ARE SECRETARY OF 828 00:25:48,281 --> 00:25:49,747 CONFUSED WHY ARE SECRETARY OF STATE CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT 829 00:25:49,749 --> 00:25:50,347 STATE CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT BEING GOVERNMENT NORTH. 830 00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:52,316 BEING GOVERNMENT NORTH. IN ARIZONA WE DON'T HAVE A 831 00:25:52,318 --> 00:25:52,850 IN ARIZONA WE DON'T HAVE A LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR. 832 00:25:52,852 --> 00:25:54,285 LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR. IF THE GOVERNOR CANNOT FINISH, 833 00:25:54,287 --> 00:25:56,186 IF THE GOVERNOR CANNOT FINISH, IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE HIS 834 00:25:56,188 --> 00:26:00,791 IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE HIS TERM, THE SECRETARY OF STATE 835 00:26:00,793 --> 00:26:01,225 TERM, THE SECRETARY OF STATE WILL STEP IN. 836 00:26:01,227 --> 00:26:04,795 WILL STEP IN. WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS 837 00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:05,095 WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS RACE. 838 00:26:05,097 --> 00:26:06,463 RACE. AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS ASKED. 839 00:26:06,465 --> 00:26:08,132 AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS ASKED. AND IT WAS ASKED OF THEM A 840 00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:08,899 AND IT WAS ASKED OF THEM A NUMBER OF TIMES. 841 00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:11,168 NUMBER OF TIMES. WHEN WE WORKED WITH THEM. 842 00:26:11,170 --> 00:26:12,836 WHEN WE WORKED WITH THEM. WE ASKED THOSE EXACT SAME 843 00:26:12,838 --> 00:26:13,437 WE ASKED THOSE EXACT SAME QUESTIONS. 844 00:26:13,439 --> 00:26:14,805 QUESTIONS. >> SOME ANALYSTS HAVE LOOKED AT 845 00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:16,674 >> SOME ANALYSTS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS DEBATE AND THOUGHT THAT 846 00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:18,509 THIS DEBATE AND THOUGHT THAT MAYBE MICHELLE DIDN'T COME OFF 847 00:26:18,511 --> 00:26:19,743 MAYBE MICHELLE DIDN'T COME OFF AS READY AS SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN 848 00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:21,245 AS READY AS SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THAT SORT OF QUESTION. 849 00:26:21,247 --> 00:26:22,513 FOR THAT SORT OF QUESTION. PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS, 850 00:26:22,515 --> 00:26:27,818 PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS, THEY KNOW THAT TERRY GODDARD HAS 851 00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:29,086 THEY KNOW THAT TERRY GODDARD HAS A LONG HISTORY. 852 00:26:29,088 --> 00:26:30,287 A LONG HISTORY. NACHL WRE 853 00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:30,821 NACHL WRE NAME RECOGNITION. 854 00:26:30,823 --> 00:26:32,456 NAME RECOGNITION. MICHELLE REAGAN NOT BOWING OUT 855 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:33,123 MICHELLE REAGAN NOT BOWING OUT EITHER YET. 856 00:26:33,125 --> 00:26:35,526 EITHER YET. >> SHE IS NOT A POLITICAL 857 00:26:35,528 --> 00:26:35,893 >> SHE IS NOT A POLITICAL NEOPHYTE. 858 00:26:35,895 --> 00:26:36,927 NEOPHYTE. SHE HAS BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE 859 00:26:36,929 --> 00:26:40,264 SHE HAS BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR MANY YEARS. 860 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:41,799 FOR MANY YEARS. SUNNY HAS RUN 861 00:26:41,801 --> 00:26:44,301 SUNNY HAS RUN SHE HAS RUN ELECTION LAW THROUGH 862 00:26:44,303 --> 00:26:44,768 SHE HAS RUN ELECTION LAW THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE. 863 00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:46,303 THE LEGISLATURE. WHETHER YOU AGREE A WHOLE 864 00:26:46,305 --> 00:26:46,737 WHETHER YOU AGREE A WHOLE ANOTHER ISSUE. 865 00:26:46,739 --> 00:26:49,773 ANOTHER ISSUE. SHE KNOWS THE PROCESS AROUND THE 866 00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:50,341 SHE KNOWS THE PROCESS AROUND THE BUILDING A LONG TIME. 867 00:26:50,343 --> 00:26:52,610 BUILDING A LONG TIME. TERRY GODDARD IS NO STRANGER, 868 00:26:52,612 --> 00:26:53,143 TERRY GODDARD IS NO STRANGER, POLITICALLY HERE. 869 00:26:53,145 --> 00:26:54,545 POLITICALLY HERE. HIS FATHER WAS GOVERNOR. 870 00:26:54,547 --> 00:26:55,846 HIS FATHER WAS GOVERNOR. HE WAS MAYOR OF PHOENIX. 871 00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:56,947 HE WAS MAYOR OF PHOENIX. HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL. 872 00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:58,415 HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL. SO HE HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG 873 00:26:58,417 --> 00:26:58,782 SO HE HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME TOO. 874 00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:00,718 TIME TOO. THESE ARE, BOTH NAMES THAT 875 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,019 THESE ARE, BOTH NAMES THAT POLITICAL PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL. 876 00:27:02,021 --> 00:27:02,720 POLITICAL PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL. >> OKAY. 877 00:27:02,722 --> 00:27:06,624 >> OKAY. WE HAVE JUST A SHORT BIT OF TIME 878 00:27:06,626 --> 00:27:06,924 WE HAVE JUST A SHORT BIT OF TIME LEFT. 879 00:27:06,926 --> 00:27:07,658 LEFT. BUT AD, REALLY STARTING TO SEE 880 00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:09,393 BUT AD, REALLY STARTING TO SEE THOSE AMP UP IN THE NEXT FEW 881 00:27:09,395 --> 00:27:09,693 THOSE AMP UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. 882 00:27:09,695 --> 00:27:10,828 WEEKS. A LOT OF MONEY. 883 00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:12,296 A LOT OF MONEY. YOU WERE ON EARLIER TALKING 884 00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:12,663 YOU WERE ON EARLIER TALKING ABOUT IT. 885 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:14,298 ABOUT IT. WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE THAT UP 886 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:15,366 WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE THAT UP UNTIL ELECTION DAY. 887 00:27:15,368 --> 00:27:17,167 UNTIL ELECTION DAY. >> WE WILL SEE THAT UP UNTIL 888 00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:17,801 >> WE WILL SEE THAT UP UNTIL ELECTION DAY. 889 00:27:17,803 --> 00:27:20,070 ELECTION DAY. WE HAVE SEEN AD BUYS FROM THE 890 00:27:20,072 --> 00:27:20,938 WE HAVE SEEN AD BUYS FROM THE NATIONAL GROUPS. 891 00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:22,272 NATIONAL GROUPS. HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF DOLLARS 892 00:27:22,274 --> 00:27:22,740 HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF DOLLARS THIS WEEK. 893 00:27:22,742 --> 00:27:24,041 THIS WEEK. A MILLION FROM SEVERAL 894 00:27:24,043 --> 00:27:25,242 A MILLION FROM SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL GROUPS THIS WEEK 895 00:27:25,244 --> 00:27:25,676 INDIVIDUAL GROUPS THIS WEEK ALONE. 896 00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:29,079 ALONE. >> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, VERY 897 00:27:29,081 --> 00:27:29,480 >> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, VERY INTERESTING. 898 00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:30,781 INTERESTING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. 899 00:27:30,783 --> 00:27:31,415 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 900 00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:32,683 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. 901 00:27:32,685 --> 00:27:34,485 THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. TUNE IN NEXT WEEK I SIT DOWN 902 00:27:34,487 --> 00:27:36,687 TUNE IN NEXT WEEK I SIT DOWN WITH A REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC 903 00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:37,221 WITH A REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST. 904 00:27:37,223 --> 00:27:38,656 STRATEGIST. WE'LL GET THEIR TAKE ON THE 905 00:27:38,658 --> 00:27:42,226 WE'LL GET THEIR TAKE ON THE UPCOMING ELECTION. 906 00:27:42,228 --> 00:27:43,394 UPCOMING ELECTION. GOOD NIGHT.