TEST>>> A FORMER GOVERNOR SITS
DOWN AND SHARES HIS STORY OF
DOWN AND SHARES HIS STORY OF
RISING IN ARIZONA POLITICS.
RISING IN ARIZONA POLITICS.
>> IN OTHER WORDS WHENEVER I
>> IN OTHER WORDS WHENEVER I
FELT THAT IT MADE ME MOVE
FELT THAT IT MADE ME MOVE
FORWARD.
FORWARD.
AND I GET --
AND I GET --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
>> WITH TWO WEEKS UNTIL MIDTERM
>> WITH TWO WEEKS UNTIL MIDTERM
ELECTIONS DOLLARS ARE ADDING UP.
ELECTIONS DOLLARS ARE ADDING UP.
WHO IS PAYING FOR SOME OF THE
WHO IS PAYING FOR SOME OF THE
STATE'S KEY RACES?
STATE'S KEY RACES?
THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
>>> JUST AS ARIZONA IS READY TO
>>> JUST AS ARIZONA IS READY TO
ELECT A NEW GOVERNOR TODAY WE
ELECT A NEW GOVERNOR TODAY WE
ARE HEARING FROM A FORMER
ARE HEARING FROM A FORMER
GOVERNOR.
GOVERNOR.
LEADING ARIZONA FROM 1975 TO
LEADING ARIZONA FROM 1975 TO
1977.
1977.
TODAY, THE 98-YEAR-OLD LIVES IN
TODAY, THE 98-YEAR-OLD LIVES IN
SAN DIEGO.
SAN DIEGO.
ELECTED 40 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH.
ELECTED 40 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH.
JUST THIS WEEK HE VISITED TUCSON
JUST THIS WEEK HE VISITED TUCSON
TO ACCEPT AN AWARD FROM THE
TO ACCEPT AN AWARD FROM THE
HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
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¶
¶
¶
RAUL GASTROW'S STORY BEGINS
RAUL GASTROW'S STORY BEGINS
SOUTH OF THE BORDER IN MEXICO
SOUTH OF THE BORDER IN MEXICO
WHERE HIS FATHER WORKED AS A
WHERE HIS FATHER WORKED AS A
MINER IN THE 1900s.
MINER IN THE 1900s.
THE FAMILY'S TIME THERE DIDN'T
THE FAMILY'S TIME THERE DIDN'T
LAST LONG.
LAST LONG.
A UNION STRIKE LED TO THE ARREST
A UNION STRIKE LED TO THE ARREST
OF HIS FATHER AND DEPORTATION OF
OF HIS FATHER AND DEPORTATION OF
THE FAMILY, MOTHER, FATHER, TEN
THE FAMILY, MOTHER, FATHER, TEN
BOYS, ONE GIRL.
BOYS, ONE GIRL.
>> PART OF ARIZONA, THE
>> PART OF ARIZONA, THE
IMMIGRATION OFFICER FINISHED
IMMIGRATION OFFICER FINISHED
WITH THE PAPERWORK, HE SAID YOU
WITH THE PAPERWORK, HE SAID YOU
ARE NOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF
ARE NOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
AMERICA.
IT IS UP TO YOU.
IT IS UP TO YOU.
MEANING DON'T EXPECT ANY
MEANING DON'T EXPECT ANY
HANDOUTS.
HANDOUTS.
DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE HELP, ET
DON'T EXPECT ANY MORE HELP, ET
CETERA.
CETERA.
THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM.
THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM.
>> IT WAS NEVER EASY.
>> IT WAS NEVER EASY.
AS A BOY IN DOUGLAS, THE
AS A BOY IN DOUGLAS, THE
GOVERNOR RECALLED DISCRIMINATION
GOVERNOR RECALLED DISCRIMINATION
AND PREJUDICE.
AND PREJUDICE.
>> WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, A
>> WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, A
SCHOOL FOR MEXICAN KIDS, GRAMMAR
SCHOOL FOR MEXICAN KIDS, GRAMMAR
SCHOOL WAS SEGREGATED, NO
SCHOOL WAS SEGREGATED, NO
MEXICANS, YOUR DUMMIES, MEXICAN
MEXICANS, YOUR DUMMIES, MEXICAN
KIDS.
KIDS.
THOSE ARE THING THAT MOTIVATED
THOSE ARE THING THAT MOTIVATED
ME INSTEAD OF MAKING ME QUIT.
ME INSTEAD OF MAKING ME QUIT.
>> I WOULD LOOK TO INTRODUCE THE
>> I WOULD LOOK TO INTRODUCE THE
HONORABLE GOVERNOR.
HONORABLE GOVERNOR.
>> EXPERIENCE HE'S SHARES
>> EXPERIENCE HE'S SHARES
WHENEVER ASKED ABOUT HIS LIFE.
WHENEVER ASKED ABOUT HIS LIFE.
>> I WENT TO SCHOOL, AND TIME
>> I WENT TO SCHOOL, AND TIME
CAME TO GO TO SCHOOL IN DOUGLAS.
CAME TO GO TO SCHOOL IN DOUGLAS.
WE WALKED TO DOUGLAS FIVE MILES.
WE WALKED TO DOUGLAS FIVE MILES.
THE BUSES FROM DOUGLAS WOULD
THE BUSES FROM DOUGLAS WOULD
PECK --
PECK --
PICK UP THE WHITE CHILDREN.
PICK UP THE WHITE CHILDREN.
THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE.
THINGS HAVE GOT TO CHANGE.
THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
THESE ARE THE THINGS MY LIFE
THESE ARE THE THINGS MY LIFE
THAT MADE ME PUSH FORWARD TO,
THAT MADE ME PUSH FORWARD TO,
TRY TO, SEE HOW THINGS CHANGED.
TRY TO, SEE HOW THINGS CHANGED.
>> PANFUL ME F PAINFUL MEMORIES
>> PANFUL ME F PAINFUL MEMORIES
CHILDHOOD.
CHILDHOOD.
THE DAY THE GOVERNOR VISITED
THE DAY THE GOVERNOR VISITED
DOUGLAS MAY HAVE CHANGED IT ALL.
DOUGLAS MAY HAVE CHANGED IT ALL.
IT IS AST STEORY HE TELLS AT AG
IT IS AST STEORY HE TELLS AT AG
98.
98.
>> IF THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA
>> IF THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA
ARRIVED, HEAVY SET, BIG
ARRIVED, HEAVY SET, BIG
SHOULDERS.
SHOULDERS.
HE SAID, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF
HE SAID, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF
DOUGLAS, ARIZONA, THANK YOU FOR
DOUGLAS, ARIZONA, THANK YOU FOR
INVITING ME TO SPEAK TODAY, FOR
INVITING ME TO SPEAK TODAY, FOR
LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, AND
LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, AND
OPPORTUNITY.
OPPORTUNITY.
AND ONE OF THESE DAYS, ONE OF
AND ONE OF THESE DAYS, ONE OF
THESE BAREFOOTED KIDS.
THESE BAREFOOTED KIDS.
HE POINTED RIGHT AT ME, WILL
HE POINTED RIGHT AT ME, WILL
GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA.
GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA.
>> A GLIMPSE OF HOPE THAT
>> A GLIMPSE OF HOPE THAT
IRONICALLY OFFERED AN INSIGHT
IRONICALLY OFFERED AN INSIGHT
INTO THE FUTURE.
INTO THE FUTURE.
IT IS A MOMENT IN TIME, THAT
IT IS A MOMENT IN TIME, THAT
NEVER DISAPPEARED FROM THIS
NEVER DISAPPEARED FROM THIS
BOY'S DREAMS.
BOY'S DREAMS.
>> ONE DAY THE TEACHER, SCHOOL
>> ONE DAY THE TEACHER, SCHOOL
FOR MEXICAN KIDS, CAME PUT AN
FOR MEXICAN KIDS, CAME PUT AN
ARM ON MY SHOULDER AND SAID,
ARM ON MY SHOULDER AND SAID,
RAUL, PRONOUNCED MY NAME, YOU
RAUL, PRONOUNCED MY NAME, YOU
ARE NOT MAKING GOOD WORK.
ARE NOT MAKING GOOD WORK.
I'VE THINK YOU CAN BE A VERY
I'VE THINK YOU CAN BE A VERY
GOOD STUDENT.
GOOD STUDENT.
BUT YOU ARE NOT BEING ONE.
BUT YOU ARE NOT BEING ONE.
ON THE WAY HOME THAT EVENING, I
ON THE WAY HOME THAT EVENING, I
THOUGHT TO MYSELF.
THOUGHT TO MYSELF.
THAT TEACHER MUST CARE FOR ME.
THAT TEACHER MUST CARE FOR ME.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
I DID BECOME A GOOD STUDENT.
I DID BECOME A GOOD STUDENT.
>> A STRONG STUDENT AND STANDOUT
>> A STRONG STUDENT AND STANDOUT
ATHLETE, HE ENROLLED AT NORTHERN
ATHLETE, HE ENROLLED AT NORTHERN
ARIZONA UNIVERSITY.
ARIZONA UNIVERSITY.
>> QUARTERBACK ON THE FOOTBALL
>> QUARTERBACK ON THE FOOTBALL
TEAM.
TEAM.
TIME GRADUATION TIME CAME, I
TIME GRADUATION TIME CAME, I
THOUGHT TO MYSELF.
THOUGHT TO MYSELF.
I AM A BIG SHOT.
I AM A BIG SHOT.
I GARARADUATED.
I GARARADUATED.
TRIED TO GET A TEACHING JOB IN
TRIED TO GET A TEACHING JOB IN
ARIZONA.
ARIZONA.
NADA.
NADA.
WE DON'T HIRE MEXICANS TO BE
WE DON'T HIRE MEXICANS TO BE
TEACHERS.
TEACHERS.
SO I WANT TO MOTHER.
SO I WANT TO MOTHER.
MOTHER, I AM NOT LEAVING YOU.
MOTHER, I AM NOT LEAVING YOU.
I CAN'T GET A JOB.
I CAN'T GET A JOB.
>> BY TRAIN HE TRAVELED TO
>> BY TRAIN HE TRAVELED TO
OKLAHOMA AND WORKED THE FIELDS.
OKLAHOMA AND WORKED THE FIELDS.
BOXING ON THE SIDE.
BOXING ON THE SIDE.
AND HE WORKED AT THE DOUGLAS
AND HE WORKED AT THE DOUGLAS
SMELTER, EVERYTHING FUELED HIS
SMELTER, EVERYTHING FUELED HIS
FIRE.
FIRE.
>> YOU CAN CHANGE THINGS.
>> YOU CAN CHANGE THINGS.
ONCE I WALKED UP TO THE SMELTER
ONCE I WALKED UP TO THE SMELTER
IN DOUGLAS.
IN DOUGLAS.
I GOT $2.20.
I GOT $2.20.
I SAID WHY.
I SAID WHY.
BECAUSE YOU ARE A MIX CAN.
BECAUSE YOU ARE A MIX CAN.
YOU CAN BE A MINER.
YOU CAN BE A MINER.
BUT NOT ON, IF YOU ARE A
BUT NOT ON, IF YOU ARE A
MEXICAN.
MEXICAN.
>> A JOB AT THE AMERICAN EMBASSY
>> A JOB AT THE AMERICAN EMBASSY
ACROSS THE BORDER FROM DOUGLAS,
ACROSS THE BORDER FROM DOUGLAS,
IGNITED AN INTEREST IN PUBLIC
IGNITED AN INTEREST IN PUBLIC
SERVICE.
SERVICE.
AND AN IDEA THAT MAYBE HE SHOULD
AND AN IDEA THAT MAYBE HE SHOULD
APPLY TO LAW SCHOOL AT THE
APPLY TO LAW SCHOOL AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.
DESPITE ADMINISTRATIVE
DESPITE ADMINISTRATIVE
OBJECTIONS, HE WAS ACCEPTED AND
OBJECTIONS, HE WAS ACCEPTED AND
EXCELLED.
EXCELLED.
HE IS PROUD TO SAY, EDUCATION,
HE IS PROUD TO SAY, EDUCATION,
FOREVER, CHANGED HIS PATH.
FOREVER, CHANGED HIS PATH.
>> I WAS AN ATTORNEY, JUDGE AT
>> I WAS AN ATTORNEY, JUDGE AT
SUPERIOR COURT, JUDGE OF
SUPERIOR COURT, JUDGE OF
JUVENILE COURT, GOVERNOR.
JUVENILE COURT, GOVERNOR.
WHEN I WANT TO ARGENTINA, THEY
WHEN I WANT TO ARGENTINA, THEY
SENT A MEXICAN TO BE THE
SENT A MEXICAN TO BE THE
AMERICAN AMBASSADOR.
AMERICAN AMBASSADOR.
>> WHAT DID YOU SAY?
>> WHAT DID YOU SAY?
>> I WANTED TO START WALKING IN
>> I WANTED TO START WALKING IN
THE STREETS AND TALKING TO
THE STREETS AND TALKING TO
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE.
THINGS CHANGED.
THINGS CHANGED.
THEY SAID, FINE.
THEY SAID, FINE.
AND ARGENTINA.
AND ARGENTINA.
>> AFTER 14 YEARS OF LAFG BROAD,
>> AFTER 14 YEARS OF LAFG BROAD,
FRIEND SUGGEST HEED RUN FOR
FRIEND SUGGEST HEED RUN FOR
GOVERNOR.
GOVERNOR.
HE LOST BY LESS THAN 1% OF THE
HE LOST BY LESS THAN 1% OF THE
VOTE.
VOTE.
NOT BACKING DOWN FROM A FIGHT,
NOT BACKING DOWN FROM A FIGHT,
MR. CASTRO TRIED AGAIN.
MR. CASTRO TRIED AGAIN.
THIS TIME, WINNING AND MAKING
THIS TIME, WINNING AND MAKING
HISTORY AS ARIZONA'S FIRST
HISTORY AS ARIZONA'S FIRST
GOVERNOR OF MEXICAN DESCENT.
GOVERNOR OF MEXICAN DESCENT.
>> ON ELECTION DAY, AT 4:00 IN
>> ON ELECTION DAY, AT 4:00 IN
THE MORNING I WAS 4,000 VOTES
THE MORNING I WAS 4,000 VOTES
BEHIND THE NATIVE AMERICAN VOTE
BEHIND THE NATIVE AMERICAN VOTE
CAME IN.
CAME IN.
IT WAS IN SUPPORT OF MY
IT WAS IN SUPPORT OF MY
CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN.
I WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF
I WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF
ARIZONA.
ARIZONA.
>> A SURREAL MOMENT HE HOPES
>> A SURREAL MOMENT HE HOPES
WILL INSPIRE FOR GENERATIONS.
WILL INSPIRE FOR GENERATIONS.
>> IMPORTANT -- OTHER
>> IMPORTANT -- OTHER
MEXICAN-AMERICAN KIDS, AS
MEXICAN-AMERICAN KIDS, AS
PROBABLY THE SAME THING.
PROBABLY THE SAME THING.
I COULD NEVER STAND IT.
I COULD NEVER STAND IT.
I COULD GO TO THE BARBER SHOP ON
I COULD GO TO THE BARBER SHOP ON
WEST CONGRESSEN TUCS EN TIN TUC.
WEST CONGRESSEN TUCS EN TIN TUC.
ALL THESE MEXICAN KIDS,
ALL THESE MEXICAN KIDS,
COMPLAINING SALARIES, WAGES.
COMPLAINING SALARIES, WAGES.
I SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT
I SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT
IT?
IT?
NOTHING.
NOTHING.
I AM GOING TO RUN FOR COUNTY
I AM GOING TO RUN FOR COUNTY
ATTORNEY.
ATTORNEY.
YOU ARE CRAZY.
YOU ARE CRAZY.
WHO IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU?
WHO IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU?
YOU ARE BORN IN MEXICO, MEXICAN
YOU ARE BORN IN MEXICO, MEXICAN
PARENTS.
PARENTS.
NOBODY IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU.
NOBODY IS GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU.
I RUN FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY.
I RUN FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY.
AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A
AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A
COUNTY ATTORNEY IN TUCSON OF
COUNTY ATTORNEY IN TUCSON OF
MEXICAN DESCENT.
MEXICAN DESCENT.
I WAS IT FOR YEARS.
I WAS IT FOR YEARS.
AND JUDGE.
AND JUDGE.
>> OR GOVERNOR?
>> OR GOVERNOR?
>> GOVERNOR.
>> GOVERNOR.
YEAH.
YEAH.
AWE A
AWE A
A GAME CHANGER FOR THIS BOY FROM
A GAME CHANGER FOR THIS BOY FROM
THE BORDER.
THE BORDER.
>> GOVERNOR.
>> GOVERNOR.
IN ARIZONA.
IN ARIZONA.
WANTED ME TO BEA MEP WERE.
WANTED ME TO BEA MEP WERE.
NONE OF THE COUNTRY CLUBS IN
NONE OF THE COUNTRY CLUBS IN
TUCSON.
TUCSON.
I COULDN'T JOIN THEM.
I COULDN'T JOIN THEM.
ONCE I BECAME GOVERNOR THEY
ONCE I BECAME GOVERNOR THEY
LOVED ME DEARLY.
LOVED ME DEARLY.
>> BUT HE NEVER FORGOT WHO HE
>> BUT HE NEVER FORGOT WHO HE
WAS, WHERE HE CAM FROM OR THE
WAS, WHERE HE CAM FROM OR THE
JOURNEY HE HAS BEEN ON.
JOURNEY HE HAS BEEN ON.
>> KIDS DON'T HAVE MOTIVATION.
>> KIDS DON'T HAVE MOTIVATION.
THEY QUIT.
THEY QUIT.
THEY GIVE UP.
THEY GIVE UP.
I USED TO GO TO THE SCHOOL AND
I USED TO GO TO THE SCHOOL AND
TALK TO THE KIDS.
TALK TO THE KIDS.
THEY WOULD SAY, MR. CASTRO, YOU
THEY WOULD SAY, MR. CASTRO, YOU
MUST COME FROM A WEALTHY FAMILY.
MUST COME FROM A WEALTHY FAMILY.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT KILLED ME.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT KILLED ME.
I SAID, WHAT DO I TELL THEM, I
I SAID, WHAT DO I TELL THEM, I
SAID, LOOK AT ME.
SAID, LOOK AT ME.
I CAME FROM MEXICO.
I CAME FROM MEXICO.
EVERYWHERE I GO EVEN NOW AS AN
EVERYWHERE I GO EVEN NOW AS AN
ADULT, I GET SET BACK, BORED
ADULT, I GET SET BACK, BORED
PATROL, WHERE WERE YOU BORN?
PATROL, WHERE WERE YOU BORN?
MEXICO.
MEXICO.
AND BORDER PATROL COMES UP.
AND BORDER PATROL COMES UP.
HEY, AMIGO --
HEY, AMIGO --
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
JUST REALLY THE SCARE OF MY LIFE
JUST REALLY THE SCARE OF MY LIFE
REALLY.
REALLY.
THAT'S THE MOTIVATOR IN ME.
THAT'S THE MOTIVATOR IN ME.
NEVER GAVE UP.
NEVER GAVE UP.
NEVER QUIT.
NEVER QUIT.
>> LIKE RAUL CASTRO'S LEGACY IT
>> LIKE RAUL CASTRO'S LEGACY IT
LIVES ON STRONG EVEN AT 98.
LIVES ON STRONG EVEN AT 98.
>> HA-HA!
>> HA-HA!
>> NO, I, I LIVED TATTERED AND
>> NO, I, I LIVED TATTERED AND
TORN, REALLY.
TORN, REALLY.
IT'S HARD.
IT'S HARD.
THE EYESIGHT GETS WEAK.
THE EYESIGHT GETS WEAK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S NOT EASY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S NOT EASY.
>> IT WAS NEVER EASY FOR HIM AS
>> IT WAS NEVER EASY FOR HIM AS
A CHILD AS A MAN, YET THE
A CHILD AS A MAN, YET THE
DIFFICULTIES WERE WHAT SHAPED
DIFFICULTIES WERE WHAT SHAPED
HIS CHARACTER AND ENGENDERED HIS
HIS CHARACTER AND ENGENDERED HIS
ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
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¶
¶
¶
>> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT
>> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT
HAS BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE GOVERNOR
HAS BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE GOVERNOR
CASTRO HELD A HIGH-PROFILE
CASTRO HELD A HIGH-PROFILE
OFFICE IN ARIZONA.
OFFICE IN ARIZONA.
A PIONEER IN POLITICS, BUT THERE
A PIONEER IN POLITICS, BUT THERE
HAVE BEEN FEW POLITICIANS OF
HAVE BEEN FEW POLITICIANS OF
MEXICAN DESCENT TO REPRESENT THE
MEXICAN DESCENT TO REPRESENT THE
STATE.
STATE.
TWO POLITICAL CONSULTANTS IN
TWO POLITICAL CONSULTANTS IN
PHOENIX SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON
PHOENIX SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON
THE ROLE OF HISPANICS IN
THE ROLE OF HISPANICS IN
POLITICS.
POLITICS.
>> NOW WE ARE SEEING LATINOS AND
>> NOW WE ARE SEEING LATINOS AND
LATINAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
LATINAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW WE ARE
WHAT DO YOU KNOW WE ARE
PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL.
PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL.
YOU LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE
YOU LOOK ACROSS THE LANDSCAPE
ACROSS THE STATE, WE ARE IN
ACROSS THE STATE, WE ARE IN
SCHOOL BOARD.
SCHOOL BOARD.
WE ARE IN COUNTY SUPERVISOR
WE ARE IN COUNTY SUPERVISOR
POSITIONS.
POSITIONS.
NOW RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE
NOW RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE
OFFICES.
OFFICES.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT'S THE
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT'S THE
LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY
LATINO COMMUNITY HAS FINALLY
FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND
FLEXED ITS POLITICAL MUSCLE AND
SAID, TELLING ITSELF, YOU KNOW,
SAID, TELLING ITSELF, YOU KNOW,
WE ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS
WE ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS
ELECTORAL PROCESS.
ELECTORAL PROCESS.
>> ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT
>> ARIZONA CONTINUES TO BE LEFT
OUT OF THE MIX.
OUT OF THE MIX.
WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG
WHEN WILL WE SEE A STRONG
REPUBLICAN REPRESENT THE STATE?
REPUBLICAN REPRESENT THE STATE?
>> GOOD QUESTION.
>> GOOD QUESTION.
A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
YOU HAVE SEVERAL CANDIDATES IN
YOU HAVE SEVERAL CANDIDATES IN
NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO.
NEVADA AND NEW MEXICO.
YOU WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A
YOU WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A
STRONG, LATINO, SOME ONE OUT OF
STRONG, LATINO, SOME ONE OUT OF
ARIZONA.
ARIZONA.
I THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL
I THINK EVENTUALLY IT WILL
HAPPEN.
HAPPEN.
UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN
UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE NOT SEEN
REPUBLICANS IN MY OPINION GO
REPUBLICANS IN MY OPINION GO
AFTER THE CANDIDATES AND RECRUIT
AFTER THE CANDIDATES AND RECRUIT
THEM.
THEM.
THE WAY THAT I THINK THEY
THE WAY THAT I THINK THEY
SHOULD.
SHOULD.
>> WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM THE
>> WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM THE
STRATEGISTS ON NEXT WEEK'S
STRATEGISTS ON NEXT WEEK'S
PROGRAM.
PROGRAM.
ON TO DIFFERENT NEWS.
ON TO DIFFERENT NEWS.
THE RACE IS STARTING TO HEAT UP
THE RACE IS STARTING TO HEAT UP
IN HOMESTRETCH.
IN HOMESTRETCH.
LEADING TO ELECTION DAY.
LEADING TO ELECTION DAY.
LIKELY TO SEE AND HEAR ADS ON
LIKELY TO SEE AND HEAR ADS ON
THE RAIDY AND TELEVISION.
THE RAIDY AND TELEVISION.
WITH ME, TED ROBBEENS AND
WITH ME, TED ROBBEENS AND
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.
THIS WEEK THE TWO HAVE BEEN
THIS WEEK THE TWO HAVE BEEN
DIGGING INTO NUMBERS ASSOCIATED
DIGGING INTO NUMBERS ASSOCIATED
WITH THIS RACE.
WITH THIS RACE.
WHY SUDDENLY NOW SO QUICKLY?
WHY SUDDENLY NOW SO QUICKLY?
>> BECAUSE OF THE LATEST FEDERAL
>> BECAUSE OF THE LATEST FEDERAL
ELECTION COMMISSION NUMBERS ARE
ELECTION COMMISSION NUMBERS ARE
OUT.
OUT.
AND THESE, THESE TWO RACES
AND THESE, THESE TWO RACES
BEING -- CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
BEING -- CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
ONE.
ONE.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO.
THE-- THE PATRICK TOBIN RACE,
THE-- THE PATRICK TOBIN RACE,
SALLY/BARBER RACE.
SALLY/BARBER RACE.
OUT OF ALL THE HOUSE RACES IN
OUT OF ALL THE HOUSE RACES IN
THE COUNTRY.
THE COUNTRY.
435, THERE ARE 21, 21 TREE LATED
435, THERE ARE 21, 21 TREE LATED
TOSSUPS.
TOSSUPS.
-- RELATED TOSSUPS.
-- RELATED TOSSUPS.
THOSE TWO RACES ARE AMONG THOSE.
THOSE TWO RACES ARE AMONG THOSE.
YEAH, IN FACT, CHRISTOPHER CAN
YEAH, IN FACT, CHRISTOPHER CAN
TALK ABOUT THE MONEY.
TALK ABOUT THE MONEY.
THEY'RE ALSO WAY UP THERE.
THEY'RE ALSO WAY UP THERE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE TOSSUPS.
BECAUSE THEY'RE TOSSUPS.
BOTH, BOTH PARTIES THINK THAT
BOTH, BOTH PARTIES THINK THAT
THEY CAN PICK SEAT.
THEY CAN PICK SEAT.
>> SEATS THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO
>> SEATS THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO
LOSE.
LOSE.
A LOT OF MONEY.
A LOT OF MONEY.
HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING,
HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING,
CHRISTOPHER?
CHRISTOPHER?
>> IN THE RACES THAT WE ARE
>> IN THE RACES THAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
TALKING ABOUT.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ONE.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ONE.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TWO.
WHICH COVERS THE VAST MAJORITY
WHICH COVERS THE VAST MAJORITY
OF THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW.
OF THE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW.
GOING FROM NORTHWEST TUCSON ALL
GOING FROM NORTHWEST TUCSON ALL
THE WAY TO THE UTAH BORDER.
THE WAY TO THE UTAH BORDER.
FOR CD 1.
FOR CD 1.
CD 2 FROM CD 1 BORDER TO THE
CD 2 FROM CD 1 BORDER TO THE
U.S./MEXICO BORDER.
U.S./MEXICO BORDER.
SO WE ARE TALKING THE WHOLE
SO WE ARE TALKING THE WHOLE
EASTERN PART OF ARIZONA.
EASTERN PART OF ARIZONA.
THESE TWO RACES ARE SOME OF THE
THESE TWO RACES ARE SOME OF THE
MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE COUNTRY.
MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE COUNTRY.
BOTH MAKE TOP TEN.
BOTH MAKE TOP TEN.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2.
BARBER/SALLY, FOURTH MOST
BARBER/SALLY, FOURTH MOST
EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE COUNTRY.
EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE COUNTRY.
$11.7 MILLION SPENT.
$11.7 MILLION SPENT.
CD 1, THE TOBIN/KIRK PATRICK,
CD 1, THE TOBIN/KIRK PATRICK,
SIXTH MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE
SIXTH MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN THE
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
>> TED, WHERE DOES THE MONEY
>> TED, WHERE DOES THE MONEY
COME FROM?
COME FROM?
>> THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD
>> THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD
EXPLAIN.
EXPLAIN.
TALKING MONEY RAISED BY THE
TALKING MONEY RAISED BY THE
CANDIDATES.
CANDIDATES.
WE ARE TALKING OUTSIDE MONEY.
WE ARE TALKING OUTSIDE MONEY.
AND THAT, THAT MONEY COMES
AND THAT, THAT MONEY COMES
FROM -- ESSENTIALLY THREE
FROM -- ESSENTIALLY THREE
DIFFERENT PLACES.
DIFFERENT PLACES.
PACS, SUPER PACS.
PACS, SUPER PACS.
AND, 501-C-4s, SUPPOSEDLY
AND, 501-C-4s, SUPPOSEDLY
EDUCATIONAL, ENTITIES.
EDUCATIONAL, ENTITIES.
AS DESIGNATED BY THE IRS.
AS DESIGNATED BY THE IRS.
THAT'S WHAT IS CALLED DARK
THAT'S WHAT IS CALLED DARK
MONEY.
MONEY.
WE CAN GO INTO IT A LITTLE MORE.
WE CAN GO INTO IT A LITTLE MORE.
SOME ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE.
SOME ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE.
PACS ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE
PACS ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE
WITH CAMPAIGNS, CORRECT?
WITH CAMPAIGNS, CORRECT?
>> YES.
>> YES.
SUPER PACS CANNOT COORDINATE
SUPER PACS CANNOT COORDINATE
WITH CAMPAIGNS AND HAVE NO
WITH CAMPAIGNS AND HAVE NO
FINANCIAL RESTRICTIONS ON THEM.
FINANCIAL RESTRICTIONS ON THEM.
THEY CAN RAISE AND SPEND AS MUCH
THEY CAN RAISE AND SPEND AS MUCH
AS THEY WANT.
AS THEY WANT.
>> WE HAVE SEEN CANDIDATES CALL
>> WE HAVE SEEN CANDIDATES CALL
EACH OTHER OUT.
EACH OTHER OUT.
TOO MUCH MONEY BEING SPEND.
TOO MUCH MONEY BEING SPEND.
WORD LIKE DARK MONEY.
WORD LIKE DARK MONEY.
EXPLAIN WHAT THE CONCERN IS?
EXPLAIN WHAT THE CONCERN IS?
>> THE CONCERN IS -- THE DARK
>> THE CONCERN IS -- THE DARK
MONEY IS WHAT TED WAS TALKING
MONEY IS WHAT TED WAS TALKING
ABOUT.
ABOUT.
501 C 4s.
501 C 4s.
GROUPS LIKE THE KOCH BROTHERS.
GROUPS LIKE THE KOCH BROTHERS.
THEY OPERATE AT THE 501 C 4.
THEY OPERATE AT THE 501 C 4.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL US, THE
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL US, THE
PUBLIC WHO IS GIVING THEM MONEY.
PUBLIC WHO IS GIVING THEM MONEY.
THEY JUST REPORT TO THE IRS.
THEY JUST REPORT TO THE IRS.
PACS, SUPER PACS HAVE TO FILE
PACS, SUPER PACS HAVE TO FILE
MONTHS LATE, EXPENSE REPORTS.
MONTHS LATE, EXPENSE REPORTS.
INCLUDE WHO IS GIVING THEM
INCLUDE WHO IS GIVING THEM
MONEY.
MONEY.
WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE.
WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE.
THEIR ADDRESSES.
THEIR ADDRESSES.
WHAT THEY DO.
WHAT THEY DO.
ANY TEAM YOU OR I GIVE TO A
ANY TEAM YOU OR I GIVE TO A
GROUP LOOK THAT.
GROUP LOOK THAT.
OR ANY VIEWERS GIVE TO A GROUP
OR ANY VIEWERS GIVE TO A GROUP
LIKE THAT.
LIKE THAT.
THERE IS A REPORT ON IT.
THERE IS A REPORT ON IT.
REPORTERS LIKE TED AND I CAN
REPORTERS LIKE TED AND I CAN
GOEN AND LOOK AT THE DATABASE.
GOEN AND LOOK AT THE DATABASE.
>> THE SUPER, THE RECALL,
>> THE SUPER, THE RECALL,
CITIZENS UNITED DECISION,
CITIZENS UNITED DECISION,
CONTROVERSIAL, CONTROVERSIAL
CONTROVERSIAL, CONTROVERSIAL
SUPREME COURT DECISION.
SUPREME COURT DECISION.
THAT IS -- AFFECTED SUPER PACS.
THAT IS -- AFFECTED SUPER PACS.
IT WASN'T MATTER OF WHO WAS
IT WASN'T MATTER OF WHO WAS
REPORTING THE MONEY.
REPORTING THE MONEY.
THE AMOUNT.
THE AMOUNT.
ALLOWS TO GIVE, GIVE -- GIVE A
ALLOWS TO GIVE, GIVE -- GIVE A
LOT OF MONEY.
LOT OF MONEY.
IN ARIZONA, WE ARE IN UNDATED
IN ARIZONA, WE ARE IN UNDATED
WITH ADS.
WITH ADS.
CAN YOU NAME ONE, TO GIVE AN
CAN YOU NAME ONE, TO GIVE AN
EXAMPLE WHAT WE ARE SEEING.
EXAMPLE WHAT WE ARE SEEING.
>> THE 501 C-4 WE HAVE SEEN A
>> THE 501 C-4 WE HAVE SEEN A
NUMBER OF ADS IN ALL THE RACES.
NUMBER OF ADS IN ALL THE RACES.
THE AD THAT ARE POPPING UP RIGHT
THE AD THAT ARE POPPING UP RIGHT
NOW.
NOW.
ARE, EITHER DIRECT CAMPAIGN.
ARE, EITHER DIRECT CAMPAIGN.
NEWEST ADS THAT WE HAVE SEEN
NEWEST ADS THAT WE HAVE SEEN
THIS WEEK, ARE FUNDED DIRECTLY
THIS WEEK, ARE FUNDED DIRECTLY
BY THE CAMPAIGNS.
BY THE CAMPAIGNS.
OR, BEING FUNDED BY THE PARTIES.
OR, BEING FUNDED BY THE PARTIES.
THE NATIONAL -- THE REPUBLICAN
THE NATIONAL -- THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
PARTY.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
WE KNOW WHO GIVES OFF TO THAT.
WE KNOW WHO GIVES OFF TO THAT.
THOSE ARE SUPER PACS AND PACS.
THOSE ARE SUPER PACS AND PACS.
WE KNOW WHO GIVES THEM.
WE KNOW WHO GIVES THEM.
AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHOSE ARE
AND THEY'RE THE ONE WHOSE ARE
RUNNING THE ADS.
RUNNING THE ADS.
BIG AD RIGHT NOW.
BIG AD RIGHT NOW.
>> THEY SAY IT ON THE AD.
>> THEY SAY IT ON THE AD.
IF A CANDIDATE IS SAYING, I AM
IF A CANDIDATE IS SAYING, I AM
MARTHA McSALLY, I APPROVE THE
MARTHA McSALLY, I APPROVE THE
AD.
AD.
IT IS COMING FROM THE CAMPAIGN.
IT IS COMING FROM THE CAMPAIGN.
IF IT SAYS THIS AD IS FUNDED BY
IF IT SAYS THIS AD IS FUNDED BY
THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL
THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL
CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE.
CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE.
THEN WE KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS
THEN WE KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS
COMING FROM.
COMING FROM.
>> WHO ARE THEY REALLY TRYING TO
>> WHO ARE THEY REALLY TRYING TO
REACH AT THIS POINT?
REACH AT THIS POINT?
WE SAID BALLOTS ARE ALREADY OUT.
WE SAID BALLOTS ARE ALREADY OUT.
A FEW DAYS LEFT TO GO.
A FEW DAYS LEFT TO GO.
SO, WHAT IS THE INTENT, WHO ARE
SO, WHAT IS THE INTENT, WHO ARE
WE TRYING TO REACH HERE?
WE TRYING TO REACH HERE?
>> LOGIC TELLS YOU.
>> LOGIC TELLS YOU.
NOT JUST TV.
NOT JUST TV.
LOOKING ACT A YOUTUBE MUSIC
LOOKING ACT A YOUTUBE MUSIC
VIDEO.
VIDEO.
UP POPPED AN AD FOR -- FOR,
UP POPPED AN AD FOR -- FOR,
MARTHA McSALLY, AGAINST RON
MARTHA McSALLY, AGAINST RON
BARBER.
BARBER.
SO, THEY SEEM TO BE UBIQUITOUS.
SO, THEY SEEM TO BE UBIQUITOUS.
1/3 REPUBLICAN.
1/3 REPUBLICAN.
1/3 DEMOCRAT.
1/3 DEMOCRAT.
1/3 INDEPENDENT.
1/3 INDEPENDENT.
THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH
THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH
UNDECIDED VOTERS OR
UNDECIDED VOTERS OR
INDEPENDENTS.
INDEPENDENTS.
IF YOU DO SOMETHINGEFFECTIVE YO
IF YOU DO SOMETHINGEFFECTIVE YO
REACH YOUR BASE.
REACH YOUR BASE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VOTING BY
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VOTING BY
MAIL.
MAIL.
>> SURE.
>> SURE.
CHRIST FER?
CHRIST FER?
-- CHRISTOPHER.
-- CHRISTOPHER.
>> EARLIER, IN MARICOPA, BALLOTS
>> EARLIER, IN MARICOPA, BALLOTS
WERE BACK, READY TO BE COUNTED
WERE BACK, READY TO BE COUNTED
ON ELECTION NIGHT.
ON ELECTION NIGHT.
IN MARICOPA, THE NUMBER IS IN
IN MARICOPA, THE NUMBER IS IN
THE HIGH TEENS, AS OF THIS WEEK.
THE HIGH TEENS, AS OF THIS WEEK.
OFFICIALS SAY WE ARE IN THE
OFFICIALS SAY WE ARE IN THE
QUIET, PEOPLE GOT THEIR BALLOTS.
QUIET, PEOPLE GOT THEIR BALLOTS.
VOTED SENT THEM BACK.
VOTED SENT THEM BACK.
THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE
THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE
UNDECIDED OR MAYBE JUST HAVEN'T
UNDECIDED OR MAYBE JUST HAVEN'T
SENT THEM BACK YET.
SENT THEM BACK YET.
THAT'S WHO THOSE ADS ARE
THAT'S WHO THOSE ADS ARE
TARGETING.
TARGETING.
THOSE EARLY BALLOTS THAT ARE
THOSE EARLY BALLOTS THAT ARE
OUT.
OUT.
THEN THERE ARE THE UNDECIDED
THEN THERE ARE THE UNDECIDED
VOTERS.
VOTERS.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL,
AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL,
BECOMING A SMALLER, SMALLER
BECOMING A SMALLER, SMALLER
NUMBER WILL GO TO THE POLLS ON
NUMBER WILL GO TO THE POLLS ON
ELECTION DAY.
ELECTION DAY.
11 DAYS FROM NOW.
11 DAYS FROM NOW.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
TED, I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST
TED, I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST
WORD ON THIS.
WORD ON THIS.
IT COMES DONE TO MONEY.
IT COMES DONE TO MONEY.
WE ARE HEARING THAT EVERY YEAR
WE ARE HEARING THAT EVERY YEAR
WE ARE SPENDING MORE AND MORE ON
WE ARE SPENDING MORE AND MORE ON
THE CAMPAIGNS.
THE CAMPAIGNS.
HOW MUCH DOES MONEY REALLY PLAY
HOW MUCH DOES MONEY REALLY PLAY
A ROLE?
A ROLE?
THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF RACES.
THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF RACES.
A MATTER OF SPENDING
A MATTER OF SPENDING
EFFECTIVELY.
EFFECTIVELY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT, WHAT, THIS IS
I DON'T KNOW THAT, WHAT, THIS IS
WITHIN OF THOSE, LET'S SEE WHO
WITHIN OF THOSE, LET'S SEE WHO
WINS.
WINS.
IN THE CASE OF THE TWO
IN THE CASE OF THE TWO
CONGRESSIONAL RACES, BOTH SIDES
CONGRESSIONAL RACES, BOTH SIDES
ARE SPENDING -- HUGE AMOUNTS OF
ARE SPENDING -- HUGE AMOUNTS OF
MONEY FOR -- AND AGAINST.
MONEY FOR -- AND AGAINST.
SO IT COMES DOWN TO --
SO IT COMES DOWN TO --
ADVERTISING IN GENERAL.
ADVERTISING IN GENERAL.
IF ADVERTISING IS UNANSWERED.
IF ADVERTISING IS UNANSWERED.
IT TEND TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE
IT TEND TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE
THAN IF IT IS, IF SOMEBODY, IF
THAN IF IT IS, IF SOMEBODY, IF
THE OTHER SIDE ANSWERS IT.
THE OTHER SIDE ANSWERS IT.
SO IT COULDEN END OF BEING AN
SO IT COULDEN END OF BEING AN
EXPENSIVE WASH OR COULD END UP,
EXPENSIVE WASH OR COULD END UP,
SEEING TWO VERY CLOSE RACES.
SEEING TWO VERY CLOSE RACES.
>> TIME WILL TELL.
>> TIME WILL TELL.
WE WILL KNOW THAT SHORTLY.
WE WILL KNOW THAT SHORTLY.
TED ROBBINS, CHRISTOPHER
TED ROBBINS, CHRISTOPHER
CONOVER.
CONOVER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHRISTOPHER, WE WILL SEE YOU IN
CHRISTOPHER, WE WILL SEE YOU IN
JUST A FEW MINUTES.
JUST A FEW MINUTES.
>> THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE,
>> THE BUZZ WITH MY COLLEAGUE,
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.
IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WE HAVE
IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WE HAVE
BEEN FEATURING CLIPS FROM
BEEN FEATURING CLIPS FROM
DEBATES HELD AT SISTER NATION,
DEBATES HELD AT SISTER NATION,
IN PHOENIX, KAET, SECRETARY OF
IN PHOENIX, KAET, SECRETARY OF
STATE AND PUBLIC INSTRUCTION.
STATE AND PUBLIC INSTRUCTION.
WHO IS IN THAT RACE?
WHO IS IN THAT RACE?
PUBLIC IN TRUSTRUCTIOINSTRUCTIO.
PUBLIC IN TRUSTRUCTIOINSTRUCTIO.
AND THE ISSUE, BOILS DOWN TO ONE
AND THE ISSUE, BOILS DOWN TO ONE
THING.
THING.
COMMON CORE.
COMMON CORE.
WHETHER YOU SUPPORT IT OR DON'T.
WHETHER YOU SUPPORT IT OR DON'T.
HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT COMMON CORE
HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT COMMON CORE
IS HOW YOU WILL VOTE IN THIS
IS HOW YOU WILL VOTE IN THIS
RACE.
RACE.
>> WELL SHOULD CLAIRE CLAIRRIFY.
>> WELL SHOULD CLAIRE CLAIRRIFY.
AND IT IS KNOWN AS COMMON CORE.
AND IT IS KNOWN AS COMMON CORE.
IT IS AN ISSUE OF CONTENTION IN
IT IS AN ISSUE OF CONTENTION IN
THAT DEBATE.
THAT DEBATE.
WE HAVE STANDARD THAT WE CAN'T
WE HAVE STANDARD THAT WE CAN'T
CONTROL.
CONTROL.
WE CAN'T CHANGE.
WE CAN'T CHANGE.
OR WE CAN'T MAKE SURE THEY WORK
OR WE CAN'T MAKE SURE THEY WORK
FOR ARIZONA.
FOR ARIZONA.
THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR
THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR
ARIZONA EDUCATION.
ARIZONA EDUCATION.
>> EVEN MY, EVEN WITHIN MY,
>> EVEN MY, EVEN WITHIN MY,
WITHIN MY OPPONENT'S PARTY.
WITHIN MY OPPONENT'S PARTY.
HER POSITION IS EXTREME.
HER POSITION IS EXTREME.
AND, FOLKS ARE READY TO
AND, FOLKS ARE READY TO
IMPLEMENT, THE HIGH ACADEMIC
IMPLEMENT, THE HIGH ACADEMIC
STANDARDS IN THE WAY THAT IT IS
STANDARDS IN THE WAY THAT IT IS
BEST FOR ARIZONA.
BEST FOR ARIZONA.
STATES DEVIL OF TUC DEVELOP THE.
STATES DEVIL OF TUC DEVELOP THE.
STATES CAN CHANGE THEM.
STATES CAN CHANGE THEM.
I AM READY TO BE IN POSITION.
I AM READY TO BE IN POSITION.
A NATIONAL LEADER TO MAKE SURE,
A NATIONAL LEADER TO MAKE SURE,
THAT OUR ACADEMIC STANDARD WORK
THAT OUR ACADEMIC STANDARD WORK
BEST FOR ARIZONA.
BEST FOR ARIZONA.
>> NOW, DIANE DOUGLAS SAYS THAT
>> NOW, DIANE DOUGLAS SAYS THAT
THIS IS A, TOO MUCH OF A FEDERAL
THIS IS A, TOO MUCH OF A FEDERAL
OVERREACH.
OVERREACH.
DAVID GARCIA, WHO IS Ph.D. IN
DAVID GARCIA, WHO IS Ph.D. IN
EDUCATION HAS A LONG HISTORY IN
EDUCATION HAS A LONG HISTORY IN
EDUCATION.
EDUCATION.
SAYS THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT THE
SAYS THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT THE
WAY HE SEES IT.
WAY HE SEES IT.
>> THIS AGAIN IS THE CORE ISSUE
>> THIS AGAIN IS THE CORE ISSUE
OF THE RACE.
OF THE RACE.
IT IS INTERESTING WHEN HE SAYS
IT IS INTERESTING WHEN HE SAYS
THAT, DOUGLAS' POSITION IS
THAT, DOUGLAS' POSITION IS
EXTREME.
EXTREME.
EVEN IN HER OWN PARTY.
EVEN IN HER OWN PARTY.
BECAUSE HE IS PICKING UP
BECAUSE HE IS PICKING UP
REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENTS IN THIS
REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENTS IN THIS
RACE.
RACE.
AND ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA.
AND ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA.
REPUBLICANS, CROSSING OVER, AND
REPUBLICANS, CROSSING OVER, AND
ENDORSING DEMOCRATS IN THE
ENDORSING DEMOCRATS IN THE
STATEWIDE RACES.
STATEWIDE RACES.
SURE WE SEE IT FROM TIME TO
SURE WE SEE IT FROM TIME TO
TIME.
TIME.
AND, IN THE RACES.
AND, IN THE RACES.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
SEEN THIS YEAR.
SEEN THIS YEAR.
AND THIS HAS BEEN THE RACE WHERE
AND THIS HAS BEEN THE RACE WHERE
IT HAS BEEN MOST NOTABLE.
IT HAS BEEN MOST NOTABLE.
>> VERY FIERCE DEBATE IN THIS,
>> VERY FIERCE DEBATE IN THIS,
IN THIS RACE, IS, WHY HAVEN'T
IN THIS RACE, IS, WHY HAVEN'T
THEY DEBATED EACH OTHER MORE
THEY DEBATED EACH OTHER MORE
FREX WENTLY.
FREX WENTLY.
WE ALSO ARE NOT VERY MANY
WE ALSO ARE NOT VERY MANY
PRECEDENTS.
PRECEDENTS.
DIANE DOUGLAS.
DIANE DOUGLAS.
DAVID GARCIA, EASILY AVAILABLE
DAVID GARCIA, EASILY AVAILABLE
TO THE PRESS.
TO THE PRESS.
WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO
WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO
ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
>> WE HAVE TRIED TO SET UP SOME
>> WE HAVE TRIED TO SET UP SOME
THINGS.
THINGS.
DOWN HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
DOWN HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
WITH BOTH CANDIDATES.
WITH BOTH CANDIDATES.
HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE
HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE
REPUBLICAN DIANE DOUGLAS IN.
REPUBLICAN DIANE DOUGLAS IN.
ONE OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO
ONE OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO
APPEARED ON THIS SHOW, SHE
APPEARED ON THIS SHOW, SHE
COVERS EDUCATION, SHE HAS HAD
COVERS EDUCATION, SHE HAS HAD
TROUBLE.
TROUBLE.
THIS IS -- HAS BEEN AN ISSUE
THIS IS -- HAS BEEN AN ISSUE
WITH REPUBLICANS ON A NUMBER OF
WITH REPUBLICANS ON A NUMBER OF
THINGS HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
THINGS HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
WE TRIED TO SET UP SOME DEBATES
WE TRIED TO SET UP SOME DEBATES
AND THINGS AND JUST COULDN'T GET
AND THINGS AND JUST COULDN'T GET
THE REPUBLICANS TO COME IN.
THE REPUBLICANS TO COME IN.
THERE WERE DEBATES HELD BY OTHER
THERE WERE DEBATES HELD BY OTHER
GROUPS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA OR
GROUPS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA OR
PLANNED BY OTHER GROUPS IN
PLANNED BY OTHER GROUPS IN
SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
FOR EXAM PUPLE, HOPING TO HAVE E
FOR EXAM PUPLE, HOPING TO HAVE E
THAN ONE GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE
THAN ONE GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE
DOWN HERE.
DOWN HERE.
WE ONLY HAD ONE DEBATE WHERE ALL
WE ONLY HAD ONE DEBATE WHERE ALL
CANDIDATES APPEARED.
CANDIDATES APPEARED.
>> THERE IS TALK IN LOCAL
>> THERE IS TALK IN LOCAL
CIRCLES, REPUBLICANS ARE BOWING
CIRCLES, REPUBLICANS ARE BOWING
OUT OF SOME DEBATES.
OUT OF SOME DEBATES.
DEMOCRATS ARE ANXIOUS TO DEEP
DEMOCRATS ARE ANXIOUS TO DEEP
BADEEP
BADEEP
-- TO DEBATE THE ISSUES.
-- TO DEBATE THE ISSUES.
>> THERE HAS BEEN THE TALK.
>> THERE HAS BEEN THE TALK.
NOT DOING DEBATES IS A SAFE
NOT DOING DEBATES IS A SAFE
STRATEGY.
STRATEGY.
YOU CAN'T GET YOURSELF IN
YOU CAN'T GET YOURSELF IN
TROUBLE SAYING SOMETHING IF YOU
TROUBLE SAYING SOMETHING IF YOU
DON'T APPEAR.
DON'T APPEAR.
IT'S A TWO-EDGED SWORD.
IT'S A TWO-EDGED SWORD.
WE ARE CERTAINLY SEEING PLENTY
WE ARE CERTAINLY SEEING PLENTY
OF THE REPUBLICAN MESSAGE VIA
OF THE REPUBLICAN MESSAGE VIA
SOCIAL MEDIA, VIA TELEVISION,
SOCIAL MEDIA, VIA TELEVISION,
ADVERTISING, MY AMAILBOXES FILLD
ADVERTISING, MY AMAILBOXES FILLD
UP WITH ADVERTISING BOTH SIDE
UP WITH ADVERTISING BOTH SIDE
ALL THE TIME.
ALL THE TIME.
WE ARE SEEING THEIR MESSAGES
WE ARE SEEING THEIR MESSAGES
PLENTY.
PLENTY.
WE ARE JUST NOT SEEING THEM IN
WE ARE JUST NOT SEEING THEM IN
PERSON.
PERSON.
IT IS WHAT WE THINK OF AS
IT IS WHAT WE THINK OF AS
TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN EVENTS.
TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN EVENTS.
THEY'RE HERE.
THEY'RE HERE.
THEY ARE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
THEY ARE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
THEY'RE ALL OVER THE STATE.
THEY'RE ALL OVER THE STATE.
BUT IT IS SMALL EVENTS.
BUT IT IS SMALL EVENTS.
BUT NOT THE BIG, WHAT WE THINK
BUT NOT THE BIG, WHAT WE THINK
OF AS TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN
OF AS TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN
EVENTS.
EVENTS.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
AS TO BE EXPECTED.
AS TO BE EXPECTED.
DAVID GARCIA DID CALL OUT DIANE
DAVID GARCIA DID CALL OUT DIANE
DOUGLAS IN THE DEBATE IN
DOUGLAS IN THE DEBATE IN
PHOENIX.
PHOENIX.
LET'S LISTEN TO THAT NOW.
LET'S LISTEN TO THAT NOW.
>> WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT
>> WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT MY OPPONENT WOULD LIKE MY
WHAT MY OPPONENT WOULD LIKE MY
CAMPAIGN SCHEDULE TO BE.
CAMPAIGN SCHEDULE TO BE.
I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT
I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT
EDUCATION.
EDUCATION.
>> CAMPAIGN SCHEDULES ONE
>> CAMPAIGN SCHEDULES ONE
SECOND, TED.
SECOND, TED.
FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, FIVE
FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, FIVE
DEBATES IN FOUR PARTIES.
DEBATES IN FOUR PARTIES.
A FOUR PARTY, PINAL, IN
A FOUR PARTY, PINAL, IN
MARICOPA, UNIVERSITY WOMEN
MARICOPA, UNIVERSITY WOMEN
DEBATE, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS
DEBATE, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS
IN TUCSON, AND, A DEBATE IN
IN TUCSON, AND, A DEBATE IN
MARICOPA.
MARICOPA.
I HAVE CONFIRMED MY ATTENDANCE
I HAVE CONFIRMED MY ATTENDANCE
TO EVERY ONE.
TO EVERY ONE.
AND ASKING MY OPPONENT TO DO THE
AND ASKING MY OPPONENT TO DO THE
SAME.
SAME.
>> I AM NOT, SIR, ALLOWING YOU
>> I AM NOT, SIR, ALLOWING YOU
TO RUN MY CAMPAIGN.
TO RUN MY CAMPAIGN.
I THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BE MY
I THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BE MY
SCHEDULER.
SCHEDULER.
I HAVE A CAPABLE, WONDERFUL
I HAVE A CAPABLE, WONDERFUL
WOMAN DOING THAT.
WOMAN DOING THAT.
I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT
I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT
EDUCATION.
EDUCATION.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
OKAY, PRETTY NASTY EXCHANGE.
OKAY, PRETTY NASTY EXCHANGE.
FOR THOSE VOTERS AT HOME WITH
FOR THOSE VOTERS AT HOME WITH
BAL LOT
BAL LOT
BALLOTS, PLANNING TO HEAD TO THE
BALLOTS, PLANNING TO HEAD TO THE
ELECTION POLLING PLACE, DOES
ELECTION POLLING PLACE, DOES
THAT IMPACT THE WAY THEY FEEL
THAT IMPACT THE WAY THEY FEEL
ABOUT THE RACE?
ABOUT THE RACE?
>> THAT IS REALLY TOUGH OFF TO
>> THAT IS REALLY TOUGH OFF TO
GAUGE.
GAUGE.
LIKE I SAID THERE IS INFORMATION
LIKE I SAID THERE IS INFORMATION
OUT THERE.
OUT THERE.
THE NEWSPAPERS IN THE STATE
THE NEWSPAPERS IN THE STATE
HATCH WRHAVE
HATCH WRHAVE
WRITTEN STORIES ON ALL THE
WRITTEN STORIES ON ALL THE
RACES.
RACES.
WE COVERED ALL THE RACES.
WE COVERED ALL THE RACES.
THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE.
THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE.
HOPEFULLY PEOPLE DON'T GET
HOPEFULLY PEOPLE DON'T GET
INFORMATION FROM TV AD OR
INFORMATION FROM TV AD OR
MAILERS THAT SHOW UP.
MAILERS THAT SHOW UP.
BUT THERE IS INFORMATION OUT
BUT THERE IS INFORMATION OUT
THERE.
THERE.
AND THE REPUBLICANS THEY VOTE
AND THE REPUBLICANS THEY VOTE
FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
THE DEMOCRATS THEY STROELT FOR
THE DEMOCRATS THEY STROELT FOR
THE DEMOCRAT.
THE DEMOCRAT.
SO, THE LACK OF INFORMATION --
SO, THE LACK OF INFORMATION --
THE LACK OF DEBATES, NOT EVEN A
THE LACK OF DEBATES, NOT EVEN A
LACK OF INFORMATION, THE LACK OF
LACK OF INFORMATION, THE LACK OF
DEBATES, MAY NOT BE QUITE THE
DEBATES, MAY NOT BE QUITE THE
ISSUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
ISSUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
IT IS OUR JOB TO TALK TO -- TO
IT IS OUR JOB TO TALK TO -- TO
THESE CANDIDATES.
THESE CANDIDATES.
AND, IF WEAVE CAN'T TALK TO THEM
AND, IF WEAVE CAN'T TALK TO THEM
AS READILY AS WE WOULD LOOK TO.
AS READILY AS WE WOULD LOOK TO.
SOMETIMES THAT CAN BEEP
SOMETIMES THAT CAN BEEP
FRUSTRATING.
FRUSTRATING.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO SECRETARY OF
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO SECRETARY OF
STATE RACE.
STATE RACE.
THERE WE HAVE DEMOCRATS, HARRY
THERE WE HAVE DEMOCRATS, HARRY
GODDARD, FACING A REPUBLICAN.
GODDARD, FACING A REPUBLICAN.
TERRY GODDARD.
TERRY GODDARD.
FAMILIAR IN THE POLITICAL SCENE
FAMILIAR IN THE POLITICAL SCENE
IN ARIZONA.
IN ARIZONA.
THIS DEBATE HELD NOT TOO LONG
THIS DEBATE HELD NOT TOO LONG
AGO.
AGO.
LET'S TUNE INTO THAT NOW.
LET'S TUNE INTO THAT NOW.
>> I BELIEF I AM QUALIFIED TO DO
>> I BELIEF I AM QUALIFIED TO DO
WHEREVER I -- END UP SERVING.
WHEREVER I -- END UP SERVING.
I WRIL, WHENEVER I AM CALLED ON
I WRIL, WHENEVER I AM CALLED ON
TO SERVE.
TO SERVE.
I WILL BE QUALIFIED.
I WILL BE QUALIFIED.
GIVEN ALL THE EXPERIENCE IN THE
GIVEN ALL THE EXPERIENCE IN THE
LEGISLATURE.
LEGISLATURE.
THEN ALSO MY PRIVATE SECTOR
THEN ALSO MY PRIVATE SECTOR
EXPERIENCE.
EXPERIENCE.
I HAVE HAD GROWING A FAMILY
I HAVE HAD GROWING A FAMILY
BUSINESS BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE.
BUSINESS BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE.
>> THAT INCLUDES GOVERNOR OF
>> THAT INCLUDES GOVERNOR OF
ARIZONA?
ARIZONA?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IF I WAS, CALLED ON TO SERVE AS
IF I WAS, CALLED ON TO SERVE AS
GOVERNOR.
GOVERNOR.
I WOULD BE JUST FINE.
I WOULD BE JUST FINE.
IT WOULD BE TOUGH.
IT WOULD BE TOUGH.
I WOULD BE FINE.
I WOULD BE FINE.
DRAW ON ALL THE EXPERIENCE I HAD
DRAW ON ALL THE EXPERIENCE I HAD
WALKING THE HALLS OF THE
WALKING THE HALLS OF THE
CAPITOL, GROWING A SMALL
CAPITOL, GROWING A SMALL
BUSINESS.
BUSINESS.
>> ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO BE
>> ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO BE
GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA?
GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA?
>> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE I AM.
>> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE I AM.
>> HOW COME?
>> HOW COME?
>> AS MAYOR UNFORTUNAOF PHOENIX
>> AS MAYOR UNFORTUNAOF PHOENIX
MEET A BUDGET, WORK WITH
MEET A BUDGET, WORK WITH
COUNCIL, PUT TOGETHER A
COUNCIL, PUT TOGETHER A
DIFFICULT SITUATION.
DIFFICULT SITUATION.
MADE IT WORK.
MADE IT WORK.
AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, I
AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, I
REPRESENTED ALL AGENCIES BUT
REPRESENTED ALL AGENCIES BUT
FIVE IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
FIVE IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
I KNOW THE INNERMOST THOUGHTS.
I KNOW THE INNERMOST THOUGHTS.
AND I KNOW THEIR PROBLEMS.
AND I KNOW THEIR PROBLEMS.
AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL
AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
RESPONSIBILITY.
I HAD TO MEET A BUDGET.
I HAD TO MEET A BUDGET.
IT IS A CHALLENGE.
IT IS A CHALLENGE.
BUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
BUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
FOR ME IS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS
FOR ME IS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS
A STATE THAT IS IN SERIOUS
A STATE THAT IS IN SERIOUS
TROUBLE.
TROUBLE.
IN TROUBLE BECAUSE IT IS
IN TROUBLE BECAUSE IT IS
ELECTION SYSTEM IS, IS IN DECAY.
ELECTION SYSTEM IS, IS IN DECAY.
IT IS IN COLLAPSE.
IT IS IN COLLAPSE.
AND WE NEED TO FIX IT.
AND WE NEED TO FIX IT.
SO THAT'S THE FOCUS FOR ME.
SO THAT'S THE FOCUS FOR ME.
>> LORAIN, SOME PEOPLE MAY BE
>> LORAIN, SOME PEOPLE MAY BE
CONFUSED WHY ARE SECRETARY OF
CONFUSED WHY ARE SECRETARY OF
STATE CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT
STATE CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT
BEING GOVERNMENT NORTH.
BEING GOVERNMENT NORTH.
IN ARIZONA WE DON'T HAVE A
IN ARIZONA WE DON'T HAVE A
LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR.
LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR.
IF THE GOVERNOR CANNOT FINISH,
IF THE GOVERNOR CANNOT FINISH,
IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE HIS
IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE HIS
TERM, THE SECRETARY OF STATE
TERM, THE SECRETARY OF STATE
WILL STEP IN.
WILL STEP IN.
WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS
WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS
RACE.
RACE.
AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS ASKED.
AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS ASKED.
AND IT WAS ASKED OF THEM A
AND IT WAS ASKED OF THEM A
NUMBER OF TIMES.
NUMBER OF TIMES.
WHEN WE WORKED WITH THEM.
WHEN WE WORKED WITH THEM.
WE ASKED THOSE EXACT SAME
WE ASKED THOSE EXACT SAME
QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS.
>> SOME ANALYSTS HAVE LOOKED AT
>> SOME ANALYSTS HAVE LOOKED AT
THIS DEBATE AND THOUGHT THAT
THIS DEBATE AND THOUGHT THAT
MAYBE MICHELLE DIDN'T COME OFF
MAYBE MICHELLE DIDN'T COME OFF
AS READY AS SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
AS READY AS SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
FOR THAT SORT OF QUESTION.
FOR THAT SORT OF QUESTION.
PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS,
PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS,
THEY KNOW THAT TERRY GODDARD HAS
THEY KNOW THAT TERRY GODDARD HAS
A LONG HISTORY.
A LONG HISTORY.
NACHL WRE
NACHL WRE
NAME RECOGNITION.
NAME RECOGNITION.
MICHELLE REAGAN NOT BOWING OUT
MICHELLE REAGAN NOT BOWING OUT
EITHER YET.
EITHER YET.
>> SHE IS NOT A POLITICAL
>> SHE IS NOT A POLITICAL
NEOPHYTE.
NEOPHYTE.
SHE HAS BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE
SHE HAS BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE
FOR MANY YEARS.
FOR MANY YEARS.
SUNNY HAS RUN
SUNNY HAS RUN
SHE HAS RUN ELECTION LAW THROUGH
SHE HAS RUN ELECTION LAW THROUGH
THE LEGISLATURE.
THE LEGISLATURE.
WHETHER YOU AGREE A WHOLE
WHETHER YOU AGREE A WHOLE
ANOTHER ISSUE.
ANOTHER ISSUE.
SHE KNOWS THE PROCESS AROUND THE
SHE KNOWS THE PROCESS AROUND THE
BUILDING A LONG TIME.
BUILDING A LONG TIME.
TERRY GODDARD IS NO STRANGER,
TERRY GODDARD IS NO STRANGER,
POLITICALLY HERE.
POLITICALLY HERE.
HIS FATHER WAS GOVERNOR.
HIS FATHER WAS GOVERNOR.
HE WAS MAYOR OF PHOENIX.
HE WAS MAYOR OF PHOENIX.
HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL.
HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL.
SO HE HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG
SO HE HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG
TIME TOO.
TIME TOO.
THESE ARE, BOTH NAMES THAT
THESE ARE, BOTH NAMES THAT
POLITICAL PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL.
POLITICAL PEOPLE KNOW VERY WELL.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
WE HAVE JUST A SHORT BIT OF TIME
WE HAVE JUST A SHORT BIT OF TIME
LEFT.
LEFT.
BUT AD, REALLY STARTING TO SEE
BUT AD, REALLY STARTING TO SEE
THOSE AMP UP IN THE NEXT FEW
THOSE AMP UP IN THE NEXT FEW
WEEKS.
WEEKS.
A LOT OF MONEY.
A LOT OF MONEY.
YOU WERE ON EARLIER TALKING
YOU WERE ON EARLIER TALKING
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT.
WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE THAT UP
WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE THAT UP
UNTIL ELECTION DAY.
UNTIL ELECTION DAY.
>> WE WILL SEE THAT UP UNTIL
>> WE WILL SEE THAT UP UNTIL
ELECTION DAY.
ELECTION DAY.
WE HAVE SEEN AD BUYS FROM THE
WE HAVE SEEN AD BUYS FROM THE
NATIONAL GROUPS.
NATIONAL GROUPS.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF DOLLARS
HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF DOLLARS
THIS WEEK.
THIS WEEK.
A MILLION FROM SEVERAL
A MILLION FROM SEVERAL
INDIVIDUAL GROUPS THIS WEEK
INDIVIDUAL GROUPS THIS WEEK
ALONE.
ALONE.
>> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, VERY
>> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, VERY
INTERESTING.
INTERESTING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM.
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM.
TUNE IN NEXT WEEK I SIT DOWN
TUNE IN NEXT WEEK I SIT DOWN
WITH A REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC
WITH A REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC
STRATEGIST.
STRATEGIST.
WE'LL GET THEIR TAKE ON THE
WE'LL GET THEIR TAKE ON THE
UPCOMING ELECTION.
UPCOMING ELECTION.
GOOD NIGHT.