WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.037 ESPECIALLY HERE IN ARIZONA. IT'S ONE MANY FROM ALL SPECTRUMS 00:05.039 --> 00:11.176 IT'S ONE MANY FROM ALL SPECTRUMS ARE WATCHING. 00:11.178 --> 00:14.713 ARE WATCHING. >> I HAVE A MIXED FAMILY, MY MOM 00:14.715 --> 00:16.115 >> I HAVE A MIXED FAMILY, MY MOM IS ILLEGAL. 00:16.117 --> 00:17.883 IS ILLEGAL. I MEAN JUST TO TEAR APART THE 00:17.885 --> 00:19.485 I MEAN JUST TO TEAR APART THE FAMILY IT'S REALLY SAD. 00:19.487 --> 00:19.952 FAMILY IT'S REALLY SAD. IT'S NOT FAIR. 00:19.954 --> 00:20.686 IT'S NOT FAIR. >> WE WANT TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES 00:20.688 --> 00:23.055 >> WE WANT TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES TOGETHER. 00:23.057 --> 00:23.789 TOGETHER. >> FROM DREAMERS TO THE BOOTS ON 00:23.791 --> 00:28.060 >> FROM DREAMERS TO THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, -- 00:28.062 --> 00:29.128 THE GROUND, -- >> THE AGENTS ARE -- 00:29.130 --> 00:32.164 >> THE AGENTS ARE -- >> IT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU? 00:32.166 --> 00:32.765 >> IT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU? >> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. 00:32.767 --> 00:33.665 >> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. >> A LOOK AT THE STATUS OF 00:33.667 --> 00:34.299 >> A LOOK AT THE STATUS OF IMMIGRATION IN THE STATE. 00:34.301 --> 00:39.304 IMMIGRATION IN THE STATE. THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 00:39.306 --> 00:51.550 IT'S UP FOR DEBATE, IS THE BORDER SECURE? 00:51.552 --> 00:53.752 BORDER SECURE? MANY TIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHOM 00:53.754 --> 00:55.654 MANY TIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHOM YOU ASK, BUT WHAT DO THE MEN AND 00:55.656 --> 00:56.388 YOU ASK, BUT WHAT DO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PATROL THE DESERTS SAY 00:56.390 --> 00:57.122 WOMEN WHO PATROL THE DESERTS SAY ABOUT THE RUGGED TERRAIN BETWEEN 00:57.124 --> 01:02.294 ABOUT THE RUGGED TERRAIN BETWEEN ARIZONA AND MEXICO? 01:02.296 --> 01:03.796 ARIZONA AND MEXICO? HERE IS ART DEL CUENTO, 01:03.798 --> 01:06.198 HERE IS ART DEL CUENTO, PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL 2544 01:06.200 --> 01:07.866 PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL 2544 NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL. 01:07.868 --> 01:12.037 NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL. THE UNION IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. 01:12.039 --> 01:12.704 THE UNION IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA. IS THE BORDER SECURE TO YOU? 01:12.706 --> 01:13.605 IS THE BORDER SECURE TO YOU? >> I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS 01:13.607 --> 01:16.241 >> I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE 01:16.243 --> 01:19.011 WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE. 01:19.013 --> 01:19.745 BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE. BUT IS IT COMPLETELY SECURE BY 01:19.747 --> 01:20.212 BUT IS IT COMPLETELY SECURE BY NO MEANS. 01:20.214 --> 01:21.513 NO MEANS. IT'S -- I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S 01:21.515 --> 01:23.248 IT'S -- I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S CLOSE TO SECURE. 01:23.250 --> 01:24.550 CLOSE TO SECURE. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SEEN A RAISE 01:24.552 --> 01:26.185 OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SEEN A RAISE IN VIOLENCE ON THE SOUTH END OF 01:26.187 --> 01:26.618 IN VIOLENCE ON THE SOUTH END OF WHERE WE WORK. 01:26.620 --> 01:27.319 WHERE WE WORK. THAT'S DIRECTLY WHERE WE WORK. 01:27.321 --> 01:31.523 THAT'S DIRECTLY WHERE WE WORK. SO THAT CONSTANTLY TRICKLES IN. 01:31.525 --> 01:35.928 SO THAT CONSTANTLY TRICKLES IN. CURRENTLY THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT 01:35.930 --> 01:37.729 CURRENTLY THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT PERHAPS THE AMOUNT OF 01:37.731 --> 01:39.798 PERHAPS THE AMOUNT OF APPREHENSIONS WE GET MIGHT BE 01:39.800 --> 01:41.200 APPREHENSIONS WE GET MIGHT BE LOWER BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE TOP 01:41.202 --> 01:42.468 LOWER BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE TOP WHEN IT COMES TO DRUG SEIZURES. 01:42.470 --> 01:43.202 WHEN IT COMES TO DRUG SEIZURES. IN FACT, ONE INTERESTING FACT, 01:43.204 --> 01:46.038 IN FACT, ONE INTERESTING FACT, THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE IS THAT 01:46.040 --> 01:49.341 THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE TUCSON SECTOR ALONE IS 01:49.343 --> 01:51.610 THE TUCSON SECTOR ALONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 60% OF ALL THE 01:51.612 --> 01:53.612 RESPONSIBLE FOR 60% OF ALL THE DRUG SEIZURES IN THE ENTIRE 01:53.614 --> 01:53.946 DRUG SEIZURES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. 01:53.948 --> 01:55.247 COUNTRY. >> YOU TALK ABOUT SEIZURES GOING 01:55.249 --> 01:55.514 >> YOU TALK ABOUT SEIZURES GOING UP. 01:55.516 --> 01:56.682 UP. THAT MEANS SOMETHING YOU GUYS 01:56.684 --> 01:57.816 THAT MEANS SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS WORKING. 01:57.818 --> 01:59.518 ARE DOING IS WORKING. WHAT IS THAT? 01:59.520 --> 02:01.820 WHAT IS THAT? IT IS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE 02:01.822 --> 02:02.154 IT IS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE AGENTS? 02:02.156 --> 02:03.689 AGENTS? >> WE DID RECEIVE MORE AGENTS. 02:03.691 --> 02:05.057 >> WE DID RECEIVE MORE AGENTS. WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T 02:05.059 --> 02:05.791 WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS ALTHOUGH WE HAVE 02:05.793 --> 02:08.994 UNDERSTAND IS ALTHOUGH WE HAVE MORE AGENTS, THE AGENCY GREW AT 02:08.996 --> 02:09.661 MORE AGENTS, THE AGENCY GREW AT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. 02:09.663 --> 02:12.264 A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. SO WE DID BRING IN MORE AGENTS. 02:12.266 --> 02:16.068 SO WE DID BRING IN MORE AGENTS. BUT OTHER AGENTS -- AGENCIES DID 02:16.070 --> 02:16.668 BUT OTHER AGENTS -- AGENCIES DID NOT GROW TO THAT EFFECT. 02:16.670 --> 02:17.402 NOT GROW TO THAT EFFECT. SO WHAT WE FIND OURSELVES DOING 02:17.404 --> 02:19.104 SO WHAT WE FIND OURSELVES DOING IS FARMING OUT A LOT OF THE 02:19.106 --> 02:21.607 IS FARMING OUT A LOT OF THE AGENTS OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES. 02:21.609 --> 02:24.143 AGENTS OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES. AGENCIES COVERING PROSECUTIONS, 02:24.145 --> 02:25.210 AGENCIES COVERING PROSECUTIONS, COVERING THE DEA. 02:25.212 --> 02:26.411 COVERING THE DEA. SOME AGENTS ARE WORKING AT THE 02:26.413 --> 02:27.346 SOME AGENTS ARE WORKING AT THE PORT OF ENTRIES. 02:27.348 --> 02:28.046 PORT OF ENTRIES. BECAUSE THOSE AGENCIES DIDN'T 02:28.048 --> 02:28.480 BECAUSE THOSE AGENCIES DIDN'T GROW AS FAST. 02:28.482 --> 02:32.818 GROW AS FAST. SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ON 02:32.820 --> 02:33.552 SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ON PAPER, YOU SEE THAT WE DO HAVE 02:33.554 --> 02:41.493 PAPER, YOU SEE THAT WE DO HAVE MORE AGENTS. 02:41.495 --> 02:43.996 MORE AGENTS. BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE DOING 02:43.998 --> 02:44.463 BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE DOING THE AGENT WORK. 02:44.465 --> 02:45.197 THE AGENT WORK. THEY HAVEN'T FARMED OUT TO OTHER 02:45.199 --> 02:45.831 THEY HAVEN'T FARMED OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES, ASSISTING OTHER 02:45.833 --> 02:46.198 AGENCIES, ASSISTING OTHER AGENCIES. 02:46.200 --> 02:46.899 AGENCIES. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN 02:46.901 --> 02:48.233 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN THE ISSUE OF BUDGET CUTS. 02:48.235 --> 02:49.067 THE ISSUE OF BUDGET CUTS. IS THE AGENCY DOING MORE TO MAKE 02:49.069 --> 02:49.535 IS THE AGENCY DOING MORE TO MAKE YOUR JOB SAFER? 02:49.537 --> 02:54.139 YOUR JOB SAFER? >> WELL, AS FAR AS SAFETY, WITH 02:54.141 --> 02:54.740 >> WELL, AS FAR AS SAFETY, WITH LESS MONEY THERE'S LESS 02:54.742 --> 03:00.078 LESS MONEY THERE'S LESS MAINTENANCE FOR THE VEHICLES. 03:00.080 --> 03:01.613 MAINTENANCE FOR THE VEHICLES. THERE'S STUFF -- STUFF BREAKS, 03:01.615 --> 03:02.314 THERE'S STUFF -- STUFF BREAKS, IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO 03:02.316 --> 03:02.581 IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO FIX. 03:02.583 --> 03:06.451 FIX. SO WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, I 03:06.453 --> 03:07.152 SO WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, I MEAN, THE BUDGET JUST AFFECTS 03:07.154 --> 03:07.553 MEAN, THE BUDGET JUST AFFECTS EVERYTHING. 03:07.555 --> 03:08.120 EVERYTHING. IT AFFECTS ALL AROUND 03:08.122 --> 03:10.822 IT AFFECTS ALL AROUND EVERYTHING. 03:10.824 --> 03:13.892 EVERYTHING. >> THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES 03:13.894 --> 03:15.394 >> THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA THAT 03:15.396 --> 03:16.929 HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA THAT SAW A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND 03:16.931 --> 03:20.132 SAW A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAYBE IN SOME CASES SEALED OFF 03:20.134 --> 03:20.866 MAYBE IN SOME CASES SEALED OFF THE BORDER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 03:20.868 --> 03:22.234 THE BORDER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE GEOGRAPHY LOOKS LIKE. 03:22.236 --> 03:23.302 WHAT THE GEOGRAPHY LOOKS LIKE. BUT THERE ARE THOSE CRITICS WHO 03:23.304 --> 03:24.670 BUT THERE ARE THOSE CRITICS WHO SAY IT PUSHED THE TRAFFIC 03:24.672 --> 03:26.071 SAY IT PUSHED THE TRAFFIC OUTWARD AND CREATED A WHOLE NEW 03:26.073 --> 03:26.939 OUTWARD AND CREATED A WHOLE NEW BALL OF WAX. 03:26.941 --> 03:29.641 BALL OF WAX. NEW PROBLEM. 03:29.643 --> 03:30.008 NEW PROBLEM. >> RIGHT. 03:30.010 --> 03:32.477 >> RIGHT. >> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? 03:32.479 --> 03:33.445 >> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? >> I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAKING THE 03:33.447 --> 03:37.416 >> I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAKING THE RIGHT STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO 03:37.418 --> 03:39.751 RIGHT STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO BLOCKING CERTAIN AREAS BUT I'M A 03:39.753 --> 03:41.186 BLOCKING CERTAIN AREAS BUT I'M A REALIST AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR 03:41.188 --> 03:42.521 REALIST AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR PROCESS AND THINKING BEHIND 03:42.523 --> 03:45.390 PROCESS AND THINKING BEHIND WANTING TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. 03:45.392 --> 03:46.258 WANTING TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. THE AREA THAT MOST PEOPLE SEE 03:46.260 --> 03:48.527 THE AREA THAT MOST PEOPLE SEE ARE THE PORTS OF ENTRIES AND THE 03:48.529 --> 03:50.596 ARE THE PORTS OF ENTRIES AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE CITY. 03:50.598 --> 03:51.697 SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE CITY. YOU GO AT STEPS TO BLOCK THAT 03:51.699 --> 03:51.964 YOU GO AT STEPS TO BLOCK THAT OFF. 03:51.966 --> 03:57.269 OFF. IT GIVES THE PUBLIC PERSONA THE 03:57.271 --> 03:57.970 IT GIVES THE PUBLIC PERSONA THE IMAGE OF HEY, IT'S SECURE NOW. 03:57.972 --> 04:00.072 IMAGE OF HEY, IT'S SECURE NOW. IT'S SETTLED. 04:00.074 --> 04:01.640 IT'S SETTLED. BUT IF YOU TRAVEL THREE MORE 04:01.642 --> 04:04.710 BUT IF YOU TRAVEL THREE MORE MILES OUT YOU WILL SEE HOW BAD 04:04.712 --> 04:07.813 MILES OUT YOU WILL SEE HOW BAD THE AREA IS AND WHERE THE FENCE 04:07.815 --> 04:08.747 THE AREA IS AND WHERE THE FENCE IS SET UP. 04:08.749 --> 04:10.682 IS SET UP. AND EVEN THOSE WORKING ON THE 04:10.684 --> 04:12.317 AND EVEN THOSE WORKING ON THE RESERVATION NEARBY, THERE IS NO 04:12.319 --> 04:12.618 RESERVATION NEARBY, THERE IS NO FENCE. 04:12.620 --> 04:15.587 FENCE. SO THAT HAS INCREASED. 04:15.589 --> 04:16.288 SO THAT HAS INCREASED. INCREASED THE VIOLENCE -- THE 04:16.290 --> 04:16.888 INCREASED THE VIOLENCE -- THE VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED. 04:16.890 --> 04:18.724 VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED. I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE. 04:18.726 --> 04:19.458 I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE. WHEN I FIRST STARTED WE USED TO 04:19.460 --> 04:23.395 WHEN I FIRST STARTED WE USED TO CATCH GROUPS AND THEY WERE 04:23.397 --> 04:24.062 CATCH GROUPS AND THEY WERE ARRESTED AND THEY WERE DONE. 04:24.064 --> 04:24.796 ARRESTED AND THEY WERE DONE. NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE 04:24.798 --> 04:27.332 NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE THAT EVERY GROUP WE CATCH, IT'S 04:27.334 --> 04:32.070 THAT EVERY GROUP WE CATCH, IT'S A STRUGGLE, IT'S A FIGHT. 04:32.072 --> 04:33.705 A STRUGGLE, IT'S A FIGHT. I MEAN, THE -- WE'RE IN MORE 04:33.707 --> 04:35.807 I MEAN, THE -- WE'RE IN MORE REMOTE AREAS NOW WHERE THE BIG 04:35.809 --> 04:37.009 REMOTE AREAS NOW WHERE THE BIG GROUPS ARE CROSSING. 04:37.011 --> 04:38.810 GROUPS ARE CROSSING. SO IT'S BEEN MORE DANGEROUS TO 04:38.812 --> 04:39.711 SO IT'S BEEN MORE DANGEROUS TO THE AGENTS I WOULD SAY. 04:39.713 --> 04:43.215 THE AGENTS I WOULD SAY. >> ARE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS UP? 04:43.217 --> 04:44.249 >> ARE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS UP? >> THE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS ARE 04:44.251 --> 04:44.716 >> THE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS ARE DEFINITELY UP. 04:44.718 --> 04:46.184 DEFINITELY UP. >> THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU? 04:46.186 --> 04:47.486 >> THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU? >> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. 04:47.488 --> 04:49.154 >> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE WITH 04:49.156 --> 04:50.422 IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE WITH THE ASSAULTS BEING UP, THE AGENT 04:50.424 --> 04:51.156 THE ASSAULTS BEING UP, THE AGENT IS IN THE POSITION WHERE HE HAS 04:51.158 --> 04:51.657 IS IN THE POSITION WHERE HE HAS TO DEFEND HIMSELF. 04:51.659 --> 04:53.091 TO DEFEND HIMSELF. AND THIS AGENCY AS AN AGENT YOU 04:53.093 --> 04:54.926 AND THIS AGENCY AS AN AGENT YOU DEFEND YOURSELF AND IT'S 04:54.928 --> 04:58.597 DEFEND YOURSELF AND IT'S SCRUTINIZED TREMENDOUSLY. 04:58.599 --> 04:59.965 SCRUTINIZED TREMENDOUSLY. ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE 04:59.967 --> 05:00.632 ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE POLITICAL PRESSURE SPEAKING 05:00.634 --> 05:01.333 POLITICAL PRESSURE SPEAKING ABOUT AMNESTY AND EVERYTHING 05:01.335 --> 05:04.970 ABOUT AMNESTY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 05:04.972 --> 05:07.105 ELSE. THE AGENT HIMSELF IS PUT IN A 05:07.107 --> 05:08.874 THE AGENT HIMSELF IS PUT IN A SMALL BOX WHERE EVERYONE IS 05:08.876 --> 05:10.709 SMALL BOX WHERE EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT HIM WHEN ONE OF THE 05:10.711 --> 05:11.543 LOOKING AT HIM WHEN ONE OF THE INCIDENTS OCCURS. 05:11.545 --> 05:14.546 INCIDENTS OCCURS. >> WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE IN 05:14.548 --> 05:16.214 >> WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON NEED TO KNOW ABOUT 05:16.216 --> 05:17.849 WASHINGTON NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON GROUND ZERO, 05:17.851 --> 05:20.085 WHAT'S HAPPENING ON GROUND ZERO, THE BORDER OF ARIZONA AND 05:20.087 --> 05:20.419 THE BORDER OF ARIZONA AND MEXICO? 05:20.421 --> 05:21.153 MEXICO? >> I THINK THEY NEED TO COME OUT 05:21.155 --> 05:22.087 >> I THINK THEY NEED TO COME OUT AND TAKE A TRIP. 05:22.089 --> 05:23.588 AND TAKE A TRIP. I HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION FOR 05:23.590 --> 05:24.690 I HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION FOR EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN THAT 05:24.692 --> 05:26.992 EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN THAT WANTS TO KNOW HE CAN COME DOWN 05:26.994 --> 05:28.160 WANTS TO KNOW HE CAN COME DOWN AND I'LL PERSONALLY TAKE HIM 05:28.162 --> 05:29.461 AND I'LL PERSONALLY TAKE HIM DOWN TO THE AREA AND SHOW HIM 05:29.463 --> 05:30.862 DOWN TO THE AREA AND SHOW HIM THE BORDER AND SHOW HIM WHERE WE 05:30.864 --> 05:33.598 THE BORDER AND SHOW HIM WHERE WE ACTUALLY WORK. 05:33.600 --> 05:34.299 ACTUALLY WORK. THAT I COME DOWN HERE AND -- 05:34.301 --> 05:35.467 THAT I COME DOWN HERE AND -- THEY COME DOWN HERE AND THEY 05:35.469 --> 05:36.968 THEY COME DOWN HERE AND THEY SPEAK TO THE HIGHER UPS THAT 05:36.970 --> 05:38.737 SPEAK TO THE HIGHER UPS THAT THEY WORK WITH IN WASHINGTON. 05:38.739 --> 05:41.506 THEY WORK WITH IN WASHINGTON. SO I GUESS THEY ARRANGE THE 05:41.508 --> 05:42.240 SO I GUESS THEY ARRANGE THE TRIPS IN WASHINGTON, THEY COME 05:42.242 --> 05:42.974 TRIPS IN WASHINGTON, THEY COME DOWN HERE, THEY HAVE THEIR DOG 05:42.976 --> 05:46.111 DOWN HERE, THEY HAVE THEIR DOG AND PONY SHOW AT THE PORT OF 05:46.113 --> 05:47.412 AND PONY SHOW AT THE PORT OF ENTRY HALF A MILE EAST AND WEST 05:47.414 --> 05:48.113 ENTRY HALF A MILE EAST AND WEST AND THEY DON'T SHOW THEM THE 05:48.115 --> 05:48.480 AND THEY DON'T SHOW THEM THE REAL AREA. 05:48.482 --> 05:49.214 REAL AREA. COME OUT HERE, ACTUALLY LOOK AT 05:49.216 --> 05:50.182 COME OUT HERE, ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT. 05:50.184 --> 05:50.816 IT. I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE 05:50.818 --> 05:51.550 I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE POLITICIANS HERE THAT ACTUALLY 05:51.552 --> 05:53.452 POLITICIANS HERE THAT ACTUALLY DO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE 05:53.454 --> 05:57.189 DO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE DANGER. 05:57.191 --> 05:59.458 DANGER. AND THEY HAVE SEEN IT. 05:59.460 --> 06:01.660 AND THEY HAVE SEEN IT. I HAVE TAKEN TRIPS WITH A COUPLE 06:01.662 --> 06:04.629 I HAVE TAKEN TRIPS WITH A COUPLE OF THEM AND SHOWN THEM. 06:04.631 --> 06:06.665 OF THEM AND SHOWN THEM. I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN EYE 06:06.667 --> 06:06.998 I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN EYE OPENER. 06:07.000 --> 06:08.066 OPENER. I CAN FIX ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS 06:08.068 --> 06:09.668 I CAN FIX ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS FROM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY. 06:09.670 --> 06:12.037 FROM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY. WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY THERE YOU 06:12.039 --> 06:15.173 WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY THERE YOU REALIZE WHAT THE ACTUAL MISSION 06:15.175 --> 06:15.440 REALIZE WHAT THE ACTUAL MISSION IS. 06:15.442 --> 06:16.141 IS. >> YOU WORK ALONG THE BORDER, 06:16.143 --> 06:16.875 >> YOU WORK ALONG THE BORDER, HOW WILL WE KNOW, HOW WILL YOU 06:16.877 --> 06:17.609 HOW WILL WE KNOW, HOW WILL YOU KNOW WHEN THE SYSTEM IS GETTING 06:17.611 --> 06:22.114 KNOW WHEN THE SYSTEM IS GETTING FIXED? 06:22.116 --> 06:23.949 FIXED? >> SEE, I THINK THAT'S AN ADDED 06:23.951 --> 06:24.249 >> SEE, I THINK THAT'S AN ADDED PLUS. 06:24.251 --> 06:25.617 PLUS. YOU MENTIONED I'M FROM MEXICO. 06:25.619 --> 06:26.284 YOU MENTIONED I'M FROM MEXICO. I'M FROM HERE. 06:26.286 --> 06:26.852 I'M FROM HERE. I WAS BORN IN MEXICO. 06:26.854 --> 06:30.489 I WAS BORN IN MEXICO. I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS. 06:30.491 --> 06:32.057 I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS. I'M A CITIZEN BECAUSE MY PARENTS 06:32.059 --> 06:35.293 I'M A CITIZEN BECAUSE MY PARENTS WERE CITIZENS. 06:35.295 --> 06:36.027 WERE CITIZENS. I WAS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY, 06:36.029 --> 06:36.695 I WAS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BIG 06:36.697 --> 06:36.995 BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BIG ISSUE. 06:36.997 --> 06:39.564 ISSUE. YOU WERE IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU 06:39.566 --> 06:40.265 YOU WERE IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW AN ALLEGIANCE TO 06:40.267 --> 06:40.999 HAVE TO SHOW AN ALLEGIANCE TO THE COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU WHAT 06:41.001 --> 06:43.068 THE COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU WHAT YOU HAVE. 06:43.070 --> 06:44.669 YOU HAVE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT 06:44.671 --> 06:46.238 AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS COME AS FAR AS 06:46.240 --> 06:47.005 OF THE PROBLEMS COME AS FAR AS THE AMNESTY ISSUES AND STUFF 06:47.007 --> 06:47.372 THE AMNESTY ISSUES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 06:47.374 --> 06:48.106 LIKE THAT. THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME 06:48.108 --> 06:49.374 THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THIS COUNTRY, YESTERDAY 06:49.376 --> 06:50.075 TO THIS COUNTRY, YESTERDAY THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO BREAK 06:50.077 --> 06:54.146 THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO BREAK THOSE TIES FROM THEIR COUNTRY OF 06:54.148 --> 06:54.479 THOSE TIES FROM THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. 06:54.481 --> 06:55.180 ORIGIN. AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR 06:55.182 --> 06:57.949 AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR PROBLEM. 06:57.951 --> 06:58.984 PROBLEM. YOU HAVE TO HAVE GRATITUDE 06:58.986 --> 06:59.718 YOU HAVE TO HAVE GRATITUDE TOWARD THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU'RE 06:59.720 --> 06:59.985 TOWARD THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU'RE AT. 06:59.987 --> 07:02.788 AT. YES, I WAS BORN THERE. 07:02.790 --> 07:06.258 YES, I WAS BORN THERE. BUT I -- BY ALL MEANS THIS IS 07:06.260 --> 07:06.925 BUT I -- BY ALL MEANS THIS IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP. 07:06.927 --> 07:13.865 WHERE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP. THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT HAS 07:13.867 --> 07:14.599 THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT HAS GIVEN ME EVERYTHING AND I OWE MY 07:14.601 --> 07:15.333 GIVEN ME EVERYTHING AND I OWE MY ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES 07:15.335 --> 07:15.734 ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 07:15.736 --> 07:16.401 OF AMERICA. >> ABOUT A MONTH AFTER HIS 07:16.403 --> 07:17.135 >> ABOUT A MONTH AFTER HIS CONFIRMATION, THE SECRETARY OF 07:17.137 --> 07:17.836 CONFIRMATION, THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY JEH JOHNSON 07:17.838 --> 07:26.011 HOMELAND SECURITY JEH JOHNSON VISITED ARIZONA. 07:26.013 --> 07:26.912 VISITED ARIZONA. WE HAVE THIS REPORT. 07:26.914 --> 07:29.581 WE HAVE THIS REPORT. >> WE'LL MAKE SOME BRIEF 07:29.583 --> 07:29.948 >> WE'LL MAKE SOME BRIEF REMARKS. 07:29.950 --> 07:31.349 REMARKS. >> SECRETARY OF HOMELAND 07:31.351 --> 07:33.084 >> SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY, JEH JOHNSON HELD A 07:33.086 --> 07:35.353 SECURITY, JEH JOHNSON HELD A BRIEF PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE 07:35.355 --> 07:36.054 BRIEF PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE BORDER PATROL HEADQUARTERS IN 07:36.056 --> 07:36.788 BORDER PATROL HEADQUARTERS IN TUCSON AFTER HIS FIRST VISIT TO 07:36.790 --> 07:38.790 TUCSON AFTER HIS FIRST VISIT TO ARIZONA THIS WEEK. 07:38.792 --> 07:39.491 ARIZONA THIS WEEK. HE SAYS HE PLANS TO MAKE THE 07:39.493 --> 07:40.625 HE SAYS HE PLANS TO MAKE THE SOUTHWESTERN BORDER A PRIORITY. 07:40.627 --> 07:42.260 SOUTHWESTERN BORDER A PRIORITY. >> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OVER THE 07:42.262 --> 07:48.500 >> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS DEVOTED 07:48.502 --> 07:49.234 LAST SEVERAL YEARS DEVOTED CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES TO BORDER 07:49.236 --> 07:49.935 CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES TO BORDER SECURITY IN THIS PART OF THE 07:49.937 --> 07:52.804 SECURITY IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY. 07:52.806 --> 07:54.239 COUNTRY. WHICH ARE BEING USED VERY 07:54.241 --> 07:54.639 WHICH ARE BEING USED VERY EFFECTIVELY. 07:54.641 --> 07:55.373 EFFECTIVELY. BUT THERE CONTINUES TO BE WORK 07:55.375 --> 07:59.478 BUT THERE CONTINUES TO BE WORK TO DO. 07:59.480 --> 08:03.248 TO DO. ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER. 08:03.250 --> 08:03.949 ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER. >> JOHNSON SPENT TIME AT THE 08:03.951 --> 08:05.951 >> JOHNSON SPENT TIME AT THE BORDER IN DOUGLAS AND TOURED THE 08:05.953 --> 08:06.618 BORDER IN DOUGLAS AND TOURED THE AREA WITH CONGRESSMAN RON 08:06.620 --> 08:07.352 AREA WITH CONGRESSMAN RON BARBER, TALKING TO BORDER MAYORS 08:07.354 --> 08:10.689 BARBER, TALKING TO BORDER MAYORS AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. 08:10.691 --> 08:11.389 AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. >> I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR FROM 08:11.391 --> 08:15.026 >> I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR FROM THE RANCHERS, FROM LOCAL LAW 08:15.028 --> 08:19.364 THE RANCHERS, FROM LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY ARE 08:19.366 --> 08:22.667 ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY ARE IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF 08:22.669 --> 08:23.401 IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF COOPERATION BETWEEN THEM AND THE 08:23.403 --> 08:24.135 COOPERATION BETWEEN THEM AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HERE, BETWEEN 08:24.137 --> 08:25.470 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HERE, BETWEEN THEM AND OUR BORDER SECURITY 08:25.472 --> 08:28.507 THEM AND OUR BORDER SECURITY PROFESSIONALS HERE. 08:28.509 --> 08:30.108 PROFESSIONALS HERE. >> SOME THOSE RANCHERS LIVING 08:30.110 --> 08:32.777 >> SOME THOSE RANCHERS LIVING ALONG THE BORDER WITH MEXICO ARE 08:32.779 --> 08:33.512 ALONG THE BORDER WITH MEXICO ARE CONCERNED WITH MORE THAN THE LAW 08:33.514 --> 08:34.179 CONCERNED WITH MORE THAN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF BORDER 08:34.181 --> 08:36.181 ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF BORDER SECURITY. 08:36.183 --> 08:38.283 SECURITY. >> THE PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO 08:38.285 --> 08:41.887 >> THE PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE 08:41.889 --> 08:43.522 HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT A 08:43.524 --> 08:44.956 NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT A BORDER IS NOT SECURE HAS ON 08:44.958 --> 08:45.891 BORDER IS NOT SECURE HAS ON THEIR WORK, ON THEIR RANCHES. 08:45.893 --> 08:50.529 THEIR WORK, ON THEIR RANCHES. ON THEIR HOME, ON THEIR LAND. 08:50.531 --> 08:53.698 ON THEIR HOME, ON THEIR LAND. AND THE MAYOR OF DOUGLAS AND THE 08:53.700 --> 08:54.466 AND THE MAYOR OF DOUGLAS AND THE MAYOR OF SIERRA VISTA SPOKE 08:54.468 --> 08:55.200 MAYOR OF SIERRA VISTA SPOKE ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT 08:55.202 --> 09:00.338 ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT HAVING A PORT OF ENTRY THAT'S 09:00.340 --> 09:00.705 HAVING A PORT OF ENTRY THAT'S MODERATE. 09:00.707 --> 09:02.207 MODERATE. THAT IS PROPERLY STAFFED. 09:02.209 --> 09:04.075 THAT IS PROPERLY STAFFED. >> WHEN ASKED WHAT HE SAW AS THE 09:04.077 --> 09:05.443 >> WHEN ASKED WHAT HE SAW AS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THIS 09:05.445 --> 09:07.946 BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THIS REGION, JOHNSON DID NOT MENTION 09:07.948 --> 09:08.346 REGION, JOHNSON DID NOT MENTION SPECIFICS. 09:08.348 --> 09:09.047 SPECIFICS. >> THE CHALLENGES EVOLVE, THE 09:09.049 --> 09:13.285 >> THE CHALLENGES EVOLVE, THE CHALLENGES MIGRATE. 09:13.287 --> 09:16.955 CHALLENGES MIGRATE. SO WE'VE GOT TO BE -- WE'VE GOT 09:16.957 --> 09:17.422 SO WE'VE GOT TO BE -- WE'VE GOT TO BE VIGILANT. 09:17.424 --> 09:18.723 TO BE VIGILANT. WE'VE GOT TO BE AGILE IN 09:18.725 --> 09:19.424 WE'VE GOT TO BE AGILE IN RESPONSE TO THOSE CHALLENGES. 09:19.426 --> 09:20.158 RESPONSE TO THOSE CHALLENGES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO 09:20.160 --> 09:25.330 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE CBT PERSONNEL HERE TO 09:25.332 --> 09:25.597 ENCOURAGE CBT PERSONNEL HERE TO DO. 09:25.599 --> 09:27.065 DO. >> JOHNSON WILL ASK THE BORDER 09:27.067 --> 09:27.766 >> JOHNSON WILL ASK THE BORDER PATROL TO KEEP RURAL AREAS IN 09:27.768 --> 09:28.066 PATROL TO KEEP RURAL AREAS IN MIND. 09:28.068 --> 09:30.602 MIND. >> THE RANCHERS OPERATE FOR THE 09:30.604 --> 09:36.374 >> THE RANCHERS OPERATE FOR THE MOST PART IN THE REUSCHEL AREAS 09:36.376 --> 09:36.808 MOST PART IN THE REUSCHEL AREAS OF THE STATE. 09:36.810 --> 09:37.542 OF THE STATE. THEY MAKE THE VERY VALID POINT 09:37.544 --> 09:42.647 THEY MAKE THE VERY VALID POINT THAT IF WE PUT RESOURCES IN THE 09:42.649 --> 09:47.052 THAT IF WE PUT RESOURCES IN THE TOWNS THE BORDER SECURITY THREAT 09:47.054 --> 09:50.021 TOWNS THE BORDER SECURITY THREAT WILL MIGRATE TO THE MORE RURAL 09:50.023 --> 09:50.355 WILL MIGRATE TO THE MORE RURAL AREAS. 09:50.357 --> 09:50.989 AREAS. >> PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA 09:50.991 --> 09:51.723 >> PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA DEPORTED A RECORD HIGH NUMBER OF 09:51.725 --> 09:53.992 DEPORTED A RECORD HIGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE LAST YEAR. 09:53.994 --> 09:55.827 PEOPLE LAST YEAR. AND JOHNSON SAID PERHAPS THAT IS 09:55.829 --> 09:56.428 AND JOHNSON SAID PERHAPS THAT IS NOT THE BEST APPROACH. 09:56.430 --> 09:59.431 NOT THE BEST APPROACH. >> WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE 09:59.433 --> 10:00.098 >> WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE QUALITY OF OUR EFFORTS, NOT 10:00.100 --> 10:02.400 QUALITY OF OUR EFFORTS, NOT NECESSARILY THE QUANTITY BY 10:02.402 --> 10:02.734 NECESSARILY THE QUANTITY BY ITSELF. 10:02.736 --> 10:06.972 ITSELF. I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR 10:06.974 --> 10:11.643 I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR REMOVAL RESOURCES ON THREATS TO 10:11.645 --> 10:13.078 REMOVAL RESOURCES ON THREATS TO NATIONAL SECURITY, THREATS TO 10:13.080 --> 10:16.715 NATIONAL SECURITY, THREATS TO PUBLIC SAFETY, THREATS TO BORDER 10:16.717 --> 10:17.415 PUBLIC SAFETY, THREATS TO BORDER SECURITY WHICH CAN COME IN A 10:17.417 --> 10:17.916 SECURITY WHICH CAN COME IN A VARIETY OF FORMS. 10:17.918 --> 10:22.921 VARIETY OF FORMS. THAT COULD FOCUS ON LARGE 10:22.923 --> 10:23.622 THAT COULD FOCUS ON LARGE VOLUMES OF BOARDER CROSSINGS, 10:23.624 --> 10:26.224 VOLUMES OF BOARDER CROSSINGS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY. 10:26.226 --> 10:27.859 BUT NOT NECESSARILY. >> MOVING FORWARD, JOHNSON WANTS 10:27.861 --> 10:30.395 >> MOVING FORWARD, JOHNSON WANTS TO SEE AN INCREASE IN 10:30.397 --> 10:31.296 TO SEE AN INCREASE IN ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY 10:31.298 --> 10:34.899 ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT COMES TO USE OF FORCE BY 10:34.901 --> 10:39.204 WHEN IT COMES TO USE OF FORCE BY BORDER PATROL AGENTS. 10:39.206 --> 10:41.473 BORDER PATROL AGENTS. >> AND NOW THE STORY OF SANDRA 10:41.475 --> 10:42.207 >> AND NOW THE STORY OF SANDRA LOPEZ AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT 10:42.209 --> 10:45.510 LOPEZ AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT BROUGHT TO THE U.S. AS A CHILD. 10:45.512 --> 10:47.946 BROUGHT TO THE U.S. AS A CHILD. SANDRA WAS ON TRACK TO ENROLL IN 10:47.948 --> 10:48.647 SANDRA WAS ON TRACK TO ENROLL IN COLLEGE WHEN SHE WAS ARRESTED 10:48.649 --> 10:49.314 COLLEGE WHEN SHE WAS ARRESTED AND SPEND THREE YEARS IN AN 10:49.316 --> 10:55.820 AND SPEND THREE YEARS IN AN IMMIGRATION JAIL. 10:55.822 --> 10:57.522 IMMIGRATION JAIL. YOU WERES AFTER 10:57.524 --> 10:59.090 YOU WERES AFTER YOU WERE ARRESTED AT AGE 19. 10:59.092 --> 11:00.125 YOU WERE ARRESTED AT AGE 19. WHAT LED TO THAT ARREST? 11:00.127 --> 11:02.761 WHAT LED TO THAT ARREST? >> WHAT LED TO THE ARREST, I HAD 11:02.763 --> 11:05.230 >> WHAT LED TO THE ARREST, I HAD A GOOD FRIEND, HE ASKED ME TO 11:05.232 --> 11:06.531 A GOOD FRIEND, HE ASKED ME TO MAIL A BOX FOR HIM. 11:06.533 --> 11:07.232 MAIL A BOX FOR HIM. I JUST WENT AN TOOK IT TO THE 11:07.234 --> 11:09.200 I JUST WENT AN TOOK IT TO THE FEDEX AND MAILED IT. 11:09.202 --> 11:09.901 FEDEX AND MAILED IT. THE BOX DID CONTAIN NARCOTICS 11:09.903 --> 11:14.906 THE BOX DID CONTAIN NARCOTICS AND I WAS CHARGED WITH IT. 11:14.908 --> 11:18.176 AND I WAS CHARGED WITH IT. >> NOW, YOU WERE A RECENT 11:18.178 --> 11:20.412 >> NOW, YOU WERE A RECENT GRADUATE OF AMPHITHEATER HIGH 11:20.414 --> 11:22.180 GRADUATE OF AMPHITHEATER HIGH SCHOOL HERE IN TUCSON, SO YOU 11:22.182 --> 11:23.982 SCHOOL HERE IN TUCSON, SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREVIOUS RUN-INS 11:23.984 --> 11:25.316 DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREVIOUS RUN-INS WITH THE LAW BEFORE THEN? 11:25.318 --> 11:25.784 WITH THE LAW BEFORE THEN? >> NO, MA'AM. 11:25.786 --> 11:27.152 >> NO, MA'AM. >> TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED 11:27.154 --> 11:27.452 >> TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED NEXT. 11:27.454 --> 11:29.220 NEXT. >> AFTER THAT, I FOUND MYSELF IN 11:29.222 --> 11:32.190 >> AFTER THAT, I FOUND MYSELF IN THE CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS OF 11:32.192 --> 11:35.193 THE CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS OF HAVING MAILED A BOX WITH 11:35.195 --> 11:35.560 HAVING MAILED A BOX WITH NARCOTICS. 11:35.562 --> 11:38.730 NARCOTICS. AND I DID -- I TOOK THE WRONG 11:38.732 --> 11:39.064 AND I DID -- I TOOK THE WRONG CHOICE. 11:39.066 --> 11:39.864 CHOICE. I WAS CHOOSING A FRIEND AND 11:39.866 --> 11:40.999 I WAS CHOOSING A FRIEND AND DOING HIM A FAVOR. 11:41.001 --> 11:42.834 DOING HIM A FAVOR. WHILE I WAS IN THE COUNTY, I WAS 11:42.836 --> 11:45.470 WHILE I WAS IN THE COUNTY, I WAS THERE FOR SIX MONTHS WHILE I WAS 11:45.472 --> 11:47.038 THERE FOR SIX MONTHS WHILE I WAS CONVICTED OF THE CRIME. 11:47.040 --> 11:47.672 CONVICTED OF THE CRIME. AFTER THAT I WAS TAKEN BY 11:47.674 --> 11:50.809 AFTER THAT I WAS TAKEN BY IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND 11:50.811 --> 11:53.912 IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND TAKEN TO ELOY FACILITY. 11:53.914 --> 11:54.813 TAKEN TO ELOY FACILITY. >> DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE 11:54.815 --> 11:56.715 >> DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE BORN IN MEXICO AND THAT YOU DID 11:56.717 --> 12:00.051 BORN IN MEXICO AND THAT YOU DID NOT HAVE STATUS HERE IN THE 12:00.053 --> 12:00.485 NOT HAVE STATUS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES? 12:00.487 --> 12:00.952 UNITED STATES? >> YES, I DID. 12:00.954 --> 12:02.120 >> YES, I DID. >> YOU DID. 12:02.122 --> 12:03.254 >> YOU DID. YOU WERE EVENTUALLY TRANSPORTED 12:03.256 --> 12:05.557 YOU WERE EVENTUALLY TRANSPORTED TO NOGALES AND YOU WERE 12:05.559 --> 12:05.924 TO NOGALES AND YOU WERE DEPORTED. 12:05.926 --> 12:08.526 DEPORTED. >> YEAH. 12:08.528 --> 12:09.561 >> YEAH. >> WHAT HAPPENED IN NOGALES IN 12:09.563 --> 12:09.894 >> WHAT HAPPENED IN NOGALES IN SONORA? 12:09.896 --> 12:12.297 SONORA? >> WHEN I GOT DROPPED OFF BY THE 12:12.299 --> 12:13.198 >> WHEN I GOT DROPPED OFF BY THE U.S. ENFORCEMENT, I DIDN'T KNOW 12:13.200 --> 12:13.598 U.S. ENFORCEMENT, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. 12:13.600 --> 12:16.835 WHERE TO GO. I HAD NEVER BEEN THERE. 12:16.837 --> 12:22.307 I HAD NEVER BEEN THERE. ME AND MY -- MY BROTHMOTHER BRO 12:22.309 --> 12:22.841 ME AND MY -- MY BROTHMOTHER BRO ME HERE AS A CHILD. 12:22.843 --> 12:24.743 ME HERE AS A CHILD. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. 12:24.745 --> 12:28.413 I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. THE IMMIGRATION, YOU KNOW, THAT 12:28.415 --> 12:29.914 THE IMMIGRATION, YOU KNOW, THAT MEXICAN OFFICIALS WOULD HELP ME 12:29.916 --> 12:31.382 MEXICAN OFFICIALS WOULD HELP ME AND HELP ME FIND A SHELTER. 12:31.384 --> 12:33.551 AND HELP ME FIND A SHELTER. I DID TRY TO FIND HELP, BUT IT 12:33.553 --> 12:35.019 I DID TRY TO FIND HELP, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY I 12:35.021 --> 12:35.520 DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY I THOUGHT IT WOULD. 12:35.522 --> 12:37.555 THOUGHT IT WOULD. I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS IN 12:37.557 --> 12:37.889 I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS IN MEXICO. 12:37.891 --> 12:39.991 MEXICO. I ROAMED THE STREETS AND TRIED 12:39.993 --> 12:40.992 I ROAMED THE STREETS AND TRIED TO LOOK FOR HELP. 12:40.994 --> 12:42.660 TO LOOK FOR HELP. THERE WAS A GROUP OF WOMEN THAT 12:42.662 --> 12:45.964 THERE WAS A GROUP OF WOMEN THAT WAS TRYING TO LURE ME INTO 12:45.966 --> 12:48.733 WAS TRYING TO LURE ME INTO PROSTITUTION, JUST WENT AWAY 12:48.735 --> 12:49.033 PROSTITUTION, JUST WENT AWAY AGAIN. 12:49.035 --> 12:49.734 AGAIN. I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HELP. 12:49.736 --> 12:53.805 I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HELP. I -- I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS 12:53.807 --> 12:55.173 I -- I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS BECAUSE I SAW NOBODY WAS THERE. 12:55.175 --> 12:56.875 BECAUSE I SAW NOBODY WAS THERE. I FELT SAFE, HIDDEN. 12:56.877 --> 12:57.876 I FELT SAFE, HIDDEN. AND I MEAN, IT WAS THE WORST 12:57.878 --> 12:58.610 AND I MEAN, IT WAS THE WORST EXPERIENCE I EVER HAD, HONESTLY. 12:58.612 --> 13:04.716 EXPERIENCE I EVER HAD, HONESTLY. BEFORE THE LAST DAY -- BEFORE I 13:04.718 --> 13:07.118 BEFORE THE LAST DAY -- BEFORE I CAME FOR HELP TO THE U.S. 13:07.120 --> 13:08.419 CAME FOR HELP TO THE U.S. ENFORCEMENT, I WAS WALKING AND 13:08.421 --> 13:08.953 ENFORCEMENT, I WAS WALKING AND LOOKING FOR HELP. 13:08.955 --> 13:10.522 LOOKING FOR HELP. THERE WAS A MAN THAT HE GRABBED 13:10.524 --> 13:12.123 THERE WAS A MAN THAT HE GRABBED MY HAND AND HE HAD A BLADE IN 13:12.125 --> 13:12.524 MY HAND AND HE HAD A BLADE IN HIS HAND. 13:12.526 --> 13:15.160 HIS HAND. HE TRIED TO ASSAULT ME AND I 13:15.162 --> 13:17.629 HE TRIED TO ASSAULT ME AND I SWUNG MY HAND AND I RAN UP THE 13:17.631 --> 13:19.097 SWUNG MY HAND AND I RAN UP THE LANE OF THE TRAFFIC AND I SAW 13:19.099 --> 13:20.398 LANE OF THE TRAFFIC AND I SAW THE U.S. ENFORCEMENT AND ASKED 13:20.400 --> 13:21.466 THE U.S. ENFORCEMENT AND ASKED FOR HELP. 13:21.468 --> 13:23.034 FOR HELP. >> AND THEY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT 13:23.036 --> 13:24.235 >> AND THEY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT YOU TO THE U.S. 13:24.237 --> 13:26.538 YOU TO THE U.S. YOU WERE CHARGED FOR TRYING TO 13:26.540 --> 13:27.105 YOU WERE CHARGED FOR TRYING TO RE-ENTER THE COUNTRY. 13:27.107 --> 13:27.839 RE-ENTER THE COUNTRY. THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE TRANSPORTED 13:27.841 --> 13:28.206 THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE TRANSPORTED TO ELOY. 13:28.208 --> 13:30.141 TO ELOY. >> YES. 13:30.143 --> 13:32.343 >> YES. WELL, THE BAD PART IS I WAS -- 13:32.345 --> 13:34.479 WELL, THE BAD PART IS I WAS -- FIRST, I WAS TRANSFERRED TO 13:34.481 --> 13:34.979 FIRST, I WAS TRANSFERRED TO TORRANCE FACILITY. 13:34.981 --> 13:35.647 TORRANCE FACILITY. I WAS CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL 13:35.649 --> 13:36.014 I WAS CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY. 13:36.016 --> 13:37.749 RE-ENTRY. BUT I THINK THEY MADE A BIG 13:37.751 --> 13:44.756 BUT I THINK THEY MADE A BIG MISTAKE BECAUSE I WAS ASKING FOR 13:44.758 --> 13:48.860 MISTAKE BECAUSE I WAS ASKING FOR HELP, THEY TOLD ME I'D GET THE 13:48.862 --> 13:49.160 HELP, THEY TOLD ME I'D GET THE HELP. 13:49.162 --> 13:49.894 HELP. AT THE TIME I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT 13:49.896 --> 13:53.398 AT THE TIME I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ASYLUM AND I ASKED FOR HELP AND 13:53.400 --> 13:56.000 ASYLUM AND I ASKED FOR HELP AND THEY NEVER GAVE ME THE HELP I 13:56.002 --> 13:58.236 THEY NEVER GAVE ME THE HELP I NEEDED AND I WAS IN THE -- 13:58.238 --> 14:01.039 NEEDED AND I WAS IN THE -- INCARCERATED FOR FIVE MONTHS. 14:01.041 --> 14:01.706 INCARCERATED FOR FIVE MONTHS. >> FIVE MONTHS IN FLORENCE. 14:01.708 --> 14:02.974 >> FIVE MONTHS IN FLORENCE. >> JUST FOR ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY 14:02.976 --> 14:03.741 >> JUST FOR ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY WHEN I ASKED FOR HELP. 14:03.743 --> 14:04.475 WHEN I ASKED FOR HELP. >> THEN ANOTHER 2 1/2 IN ELOY. 14:04.477 --> 14:04.809 >> THEN ANOTHER 2 1/2 IN ELOY. >> YES. 14:04.811 --> 14:06.878 >> YES. >> YOU LIVED SOME OF THE BETTER 14:06.880 --> 14:07.579 >> YOU LIVED SOME OF THE BETTER PART OF YOUR YEARS AS A YOUNG 14:07.581 --> 14:08.379 PART OF YOUR YEARS AS A YOUNG WOMAN IN PRISON. 14:08.381 --> 14:11.983 WOMAN IN PRISON. >> YES. 14:11.985 --> 14:12.550 >> YES. >> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? 14:12.552 --> 14:16.754 >> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? >> IT WAS REALLY HARD. 14:16.756 --> 14:17.755 >> IT WAS REALLY HARD. IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW? 14:17.757 --> 14:19.924 IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW? JUST TO BE INCARCERATED WITH A 14:19.926 --> 14:21.593 JUST TO BE INCARCERATED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HONESTLY 14:21.595 --> 14:23.528 LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HONESTLY THERE WAS MORE ILLEGALS THAN, 14:23.530 --> 14:24.195 THERE WAS MORE ILLEGALS THAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY CRIMINALS. 14:24.197 --> 14:24.929 YOU KNOW, REALLY CRIMINALS. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD 14:24.931 --> 14:28.299 I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD KEEP US THAT LONG INCARCERATED 14:28.301 --> 14:29.400 KEEP US THAT LONG INCARCERATED JUST FOR COMING BACK. 14:29.402 --> 14:32.470 JUST FOR COMING BACK. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PEOPLE 14:32.472 --> 14:33.338 YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME BACK LIKE ME IS FOR 14:33.340 --> 14:33.638 THAT COME BACK LIKE ME IS FOR HELP. 14:33.640 --> 14:35.607 HELP. NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO. 14:35.609 --> 14:36.608 NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO. YOU KNOW? 14:36.610 --> 14:40.011 YOU KNOW? WE NEEDED HELP. 14:40.013 --> 14:40.745 WE NEEDED HELP. AND THE U.S. -- THEY'RE GOOD AT 14:40.747 --> 14:41.012 AND THE U.S. -- THEY'RE GOOD AT IT. 14:41.014 --> 14:41.412 IT. HELPING US. 14:41.414 --> 14:42.146 HELPING US. BUT RIGHT THERE, LATELY, I THINK 14:42.148 --> 14:47.252 BUT RIGHT THERE, LATELY, I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN KIND OF MESSING 14:47.254 --> 14:48.453 THEY HAVE BEEN KIND OF MESSING UP BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HELPED 14:48.455 --> 14:51.389 UP BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HELPED US AND THEY JUST DEPORT US 14:51.391 --> 14:51.689 US AND THEY JUST DEPORT US AGAIN. 14:51.691 --> 14:53.558 AGAIN. TO BE INCARCERATED IT'S REALLY 14:53.560 --> 14:53.858 TO BE INCARCERATED IT'S REALLY HARD. 14:53.860 --> 14:55.693 HARD. YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS. 14:55.695 --> 14:58.563 YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS. THEY HAVE YOU DO THINGS YOU 14:58.565 --> 14:59.063 THEY HAVE YOU DO THINGS YOU DON'T WANT TO DO. 14:59.065 --> 15:00.465 DON'T WANT TO DO. YOU GET YELLED AT, YOU GET NASTY 15:00.467 --> 15:01.366 YOU GET YELLED AT, YOU GET NASTY FOOD, LOCKDOWN. 15:01.368 --> 15:02.867 FOOD, LOCKDOWN. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEPRESSED. 15:02.869 --> 15:05.270 YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEPRESSED. YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT 15:05.272 --> 15:06.771 YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT REALLY MESS WITH YOUR MIND. 15:06.773 --> 15:08.406 REALLY MESS WITH YOUR MIND. IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO BE IN 15:08.408 --> 15:09.274 IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO BE IN THERE, HONESTLY. 15:09.276 --> 15:11.676 THERE, HONESTLY. >> THREE YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IN A 15:11.678 --> 15:13.044 >> THREE YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IN A FEDERAL FACILITY. 15:13.046 --> 15:14.379 FEDERAL FACILITY. YOU WERE RELEASED IN NOVEMBER, 15:14.381 --> 15:15.914 YOU WERE RELEASED IN NOVEMBER, RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS. 15:15.916 --> 15:16.347 RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS. >> YES. 15:16.349 --> 15:17.048 >> YES. THANK GOD. 15:17.050 --> 15:19.317 THANK GOD. >> WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE 15:19.319 --> 15:20.285 >> WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE? 15:20.287 --> 15:21.486 LIKE? STEPPING OUT INTO FREE EARTH AND 15:21.488 --> 15:22.987 STEPPING OUT INTO FREE EARTH AND BEING WITH YOUR FAMILY, YOUR 15:22.989 --> 15:23.755 BEING WITH YOUR FAMILY, YOUR MOM, YOUR DAD, YOUR BROTHERS AND 15:23.757 --> 15:24.122 MOM, YOUR DAD, YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. 15:24.124 --> 15:28.259 SISTERS. >> IT WAS A BLESSING, YOU KNOW? 15:28.261 --> 15:29.627 >> IT WAS A BLESSING, YOU KNOW? I STILL -- I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN 15:29.629 --> 15:30.495 I STILL -- I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN OUT FOR TWO MONTHS, IT'S HARD TO 15:30.497 --> 15:30.895 OUT FOR TWO MONTHS, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT. 15:30.897 --> 15:33.631 BELIEVE IT. IT'S THE BEST THING. 15:33.633 --> 15:35.667 IT'S THE BEST THING. I'M STILL STRUGGLING, BUT IT'S A 15:35.669 --> 15:36.968 I'M STILL STRUGGLING, BUT IT'S A BLESSING BECAUSE I'M WITH MY 15:36.970 --> 15:38.069 BLESSING BECAUSE I'M WITH MY FAMILY AGAIN. 15:38.071 --> 15:40.571 FAMILY AGAIN. AND I HAVE MY BROTHERS AND 15:40.573 --> 15:40.905 AND I HAVE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. 15:40.907 --> 15:41.639 SISTERS. I HAVE MY UNCLE THAT'S HELPING 15:41.641 --> 15:44.609 I HAVE MY UNCLE THAT'S HELPING ME OUT AND PROVIDING FOR ME. 15:44.611 --> 15:45.777 ME OUT AND PROVIDING FOR ME. >> FOR SOME PEOPLE GETTING OUT 15:45.779 --> 15:46.511 >> FOR SOME PEOPLE GETTING OUT OF A PRISON FACILITY IS A HUGE 15:46.513 --> 15:46.911 OF A PRISON FACILITY IS A HUGE TRANSITION. 15:46.913 --> 15:58.122 TRANSITION. BUT YOU ENROLLED AS A STUDENT AT 15:58.124 --> 15:58.823 BUT YOU ENROLLED AS A STUDENT AT MARICOPA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN 15:58.825 --> 15:59.424 MARICOPA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN PHOENIX AND YOU'RE NOW 15:59.426 --> 15:59.991 PHOENIX AND YOU'RE NOW CONSIDERED A DREAMER. 15:59.993 --> 16:00.325 CONSIDERED A DREAMER. >> YES. 16:00.327 --> 16:01.059 >> YES. >> WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT 16:01.061 --> 16:01.559 >> WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT YOUR DEPORTATION. 16:01.561 --> 16:02.293 YOUR DEPORTATION. TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS 16:02.295 --> 16:02.727 TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE FOR YOU. 16:02.729 --> 16:03.461 ARE FOR YOU. >> WELL, THE NEXT STEP FOR ME, 16:03.463 --> 16:06.230 >> WELL, THE NEXT STEP FOR ME, IT WAS HARD TO GET INTO COLLEGE, 16:06.232 --> 16:08.232 IT WAS HARD TO GET INTO COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE 16:08.234 --> 16:10.969 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY -- I CAN'T APPLY AND 16:10.971 --> 16:12.403 ANY -- I CAN'T APPLY AND QUALIFY, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME. 16:12.405 --> 16:14.172 QUALIFY, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME. BUT THANK GOD I MADE IT. 16:14.174 --> 16:14.672 BUT THANK GOD I MADE IT. I'M ENROLLED NOW. 16:14.674 --> 16:15.306 I'M ENROLLED NOW. I START COLLEGE NEXT WEEK. 16:15.308 --> 16:17.608 I START COLLEGE NEXT WEEK. I'M HAPPY, YOU KNOW? 16:17.610 --> 16:18.543 I'M HAPPY, YOU KNOW? I'M A FIGHTER. 16:18.545 --> 16:20.945 I'M A FIGHTER. I'M HERE TO KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL 16:20.947 --> 16:21.779 I'M HERE TO KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL IT'S OVER WITH. 16:21.781 --> 16:24.182 IT'S OVER WITH. AND I'M ENROLLED IN COLLEGE NOW 16:24.184 --> 16:24.549 AND I'M ENROLLED IN COLLEGE NOW FINALLY. 16:24.551 --> 16:27.018 FINALLY. >> YOU'RE A FIGHTER. 16:27.020 --> 16:27.685 >> YOU'RE A FIGHTER. YOU HAVE PLANS FOR A FUTURE. 16:27.687 --> 16:28.987 YOU HAVE PLANS FOR A FUTURE. WHAT HAS GIVEN YOU THAT STRENGTH 16:28.989 --> 16:31.055 WHAT HAS GIVEN YOU THAT STRENGTH TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD? 16:31.057 --> 16:34.225 TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD? >> GOD FIRST OF ALL. 16:34.227 --> 16:37.662 >> GOD FIRST OF ALL. GOD HAS GIVEN ME THAT STRENGTH. 16:37.664 --> 16:39.097 GOD HAS GIVEN ME THAT STRENGTH. JUST ME WANTING TO DO WHAT I 16:39.099 --> 16:40.965 JUST ME WANTING TO DO WHAT I WANT TO DO AND PURSUING MY 16:40.967 --> 16:42.166 WANT TO DO AND PURSUING MY CAREER IN BEING A PSYCHOLOGIST 16:42.168 --> 16:42.867 CAREER IN BEING A PSYCHOLOGIST OR A NURSE. 16:42.869 --> 16:45.570 OR A NURSE. >> YOU'RE WELL EDUCATED ON THE 16:45.572 --> 16:45.970 >> YOU'RE WELL EDUCATED ON THE ISSUE. 16:45.972 --> 16:47.105 ISSUE. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO 16:47.107 --> 16:48.439 THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO PERHAPS BLAME YOUR PARENTS FOR 16:48.441 --> 16:49.907 PERHAPS BLAME YOUR PARENTS FOR BRINGING YOU HERE AND LIVING 16:49.909 --> 16:50.375 BRINGING YOU HERE AND LIVING YOUR LIFE HERE. 16:50.377 --> 16:51.109 YOUR LIFE HERE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE 16:51.111 --> 16:54.345 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS AND 16:54.347 --> 16:55.413 WHO ARE WATCHING THIS AND WONDERING WHAT LED YOUR PARENTS 16:55.415 --> 16:55.813 WONDERING WHAT LED YOUR PARENTS TO DO THIS? 16:55.815 --> 16:56.547 TO DO THIS? WHAT GIVES YOU THE DRIVE TO KEEP 16:56.549 --> 16:57.849 WHAT GIVES YOU THE DRIVE TO KEEP GOING AND TO FIGHT FOR RESIDENCY 16:57.851 --> 17:02.653 GOING AND TO FIGHT FOR RESIDENCY FOR AN EDUCATION? 17:02.655 --> 17:06.924 FOR AN EDUCATION? >> I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD 17:06.926 --> 17:07.425 >> I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BLAME THE PARENTS. 17:07.427 --> 17:10.595 BLAME THE PARENTS. I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON 17:10.597 --> 17:11.329 I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON EVERYBODY'S SITUATION AND WHAT 17:11.331 --> 17:13.731 EVERYBODY'S SITUATION AND WHAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AT THE 17:13.733 --> 17:14.132 THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AT THE TIME. 17:14.134 --> 17:15.867 TIME. YES, PEOPLE TRY TO FIND A BETTER 17:15.869 --> 17:17.268 YES, PEOPLE TRY TO FIND A BETTER FUTURE FOR THEIR KIDS. 17:17.270 --> 17:18.770 FUTURE FOR THEIR KIDS. IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. 17:18.772 --> 17:19.504 IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE 17:19.506 --> 17:20.071 BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE HELP FOR THE PARENTS. 17:20.073 --> 17:23.374 HELP FOR THE PARENTS. NOT JUST PUTTING THEM DOWN LIKE 17:23.376 --> 17:27.612 NOT JUST PUTTING THEM DOWN LIKE OH, IT'S YOUR PARENT'S FAULT. 17:27.614 --> 17:28.212 OH, IT'S YOUR PARENT'S FAULT. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE 17:28.214 --> 17:28.913 I THINK THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED -- THERE'S A LOT OF 17:28.915 --> 17:33.518 INCLUDED -- THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILIES LIKE MINE, I HAVE A 17:33.520 --> 17:34.752 FAMILIES LIKE MINE, I HAVE A MIXED STATUS FAMILY. 17:34.754 --> 17:37.088 MIXED STATUS FAMILY. I'M ILLEGAL, MY MOTHER IS 17:37.090 --> 17:39.457 I'M ILLEGAL, MY MOTHER IS ILLEGAL, I MEAN, TO TEAR APART 17:39.459 --> 17:41.793 ILLEGAL, I MEAN, TO TEAR APART THE FAMILY IT'S NOT FAIR. 17:41.795 --> 17:45.630 THE FAMILY IT'S NOT FAIR. I KNOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF 17:45.632 --> 17:46.364 I KNOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES LIKE THAT. 17:46.366 --> 17:48.533 FAMILIES LIKE THAT. >> SANDRA, YOU PLAN TO KEEP ON 17:48.535 --> 17:49.901 >> SANDRA, YOU PLAN TO KEEP ON FIGHTING REGARDLESS OF WHAT 17:49.903 --> 17:50.268 FIGHTING REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS. 17:50.270 --> 17:51.803 HAPPENS. >> I'LL KEEP FIGHTING, YES. 17:51.805 --> 17:52.537 >> I'LL KEEP FIGHTING, YES. >> SANDRA LOPEZ, THANK YOU FOR 17:52.539 --> 17:52.937 >> SANDRA LOPEZ, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 17:52.939 --> 17:56.074 YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 17:56.076 --> 17:58.976 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> SANDRA IS PURSUING HER 17:58.978 --> 18:00.678 >> SANDRA IS PURSUING HER EDUCATION UNDER PRESIDENT 18:00.680 --> 18:02.480 EDUCATION UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA'S DEFERRED DEPORTATION 18:02.482 --> 18:02.814 OBAMA'S DEFERRED DEPORTATION PROGRAM. 18:02.816 --> 18:04.182 PROGRAM. >>> NOW THE STORY OF ANOTHER 18:04.184 --> 18:05.716 >>> NOW THE STORY OF ANOTHER DREAMER, JESSICA GARCIA, BROUGHT 18:05.718 --> 18:07.885 DREAMER, JESSICA GARCIA, BROUGHT TO THE U.S. AT THE AGE OF 13. 18:07.887 --> 18:08.820 TO THE U.S. AT THE AGE OF 13. SHE'S CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT PIMA 18:08.822 --> 18:13.224 SHE'S CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT PIMA COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 18:13.226 --> 18:15.560 COMMUNITY COLLEGE. >> ON THE FIRST FEW YEARS I 18:15.562 --> 18:19.097 >> ON THE FIRST FEW YEARS I WANTED TO GO BACK TO MEXICO, 18:19.099 --> 18:19.797 WANTED TO GO BACK TO MEXICO, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLAN FOR 18:19.799 --> 18:20.164 BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLAN FOR EVERYONE. 18:20.166 --> 18:20.865 EVERYONE. JUST COME HERE AND LEARN THE 18:20.867 --> 18:23.868 JUST COME HERE AND LEARN THE ENGLISH, FINISH YOUR EDUCATION 18:23.870 --> 18:24.769 ENGLISH, FINISH YOUR EDUCATION AND THEN GO BACK. 18:24.771 --> 18:27.972 AND THEN GO BACK. THEN I REALIZED I WANTED TO 18:27.974 --> 18:28.706 THEN I REALIZED I WANTED TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION, I WANTED 18:28.708 --> 18:31.342 CONTINUE MY EDUCATION, I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING HERE. 18:31.344 --> 18:32.043 TO DO SOMETHING HERE. MEXICO IT'S NOT ALWAYS A SAFE 18:32.045 --> 18:35.446 MEXICO IT'S NOT ALWAYS A SAFE PLACE. 18:35.448 --> 18:36.781 PLACE. MORE WHEN YOU'RE A WOMAN AND 18:36.783 --> 18:37.515 MORE WHEN YOU'RE A WOMAN AND TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION, IT'S 18:37.517 --> 18:43.254 TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION, IT'S STILL -- SO I KNEW I WASN'T 18:43.256 --> 18:44.455 STILL -- SO I KNEW I WASN'T GOING -- IT WASN'T GOING TO BE 18:44.457 --> 18:45.790 GOING -- IT WASN'T GOING TO BE THAT EASY SO I DECIDED TO STAY 18:45.792 --> 18:46.090 THAT EASY SO I DECIDED TO STAY HERE. 18:46.092 --> 18:46.824 HERE. >> HOW IMPORTANT IS EDUCATION TO 18:46.826 --> 18:47.558 >> HOW IMPORTANT IS EDUCATION TO YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY TO WATCH 18:47.560 --> 18:48.226 YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY TO WATCH YOU GET YOUR EDUCATION? 18:48.228 --> 18:53.397 YOU GET YOUR EDUCATION? >> THAT WAS THE FIRST THING 18:53.399 --> 18:54.332 >> THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT -- ONLY GOAL WAS LIKE TO 18:54.334 --> 18:54.832 THAT -- ONLY GOAL WAS LIKE TO GET AN EDUCATION. 18:54.834 --> 18:58.836 GET AN EDUCATION. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE CAN WAIT. 18:58.838 --> 19:00.438 LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE CAN WAIT. LIKE WE JUST -- THEY JUST WANT 19:00.440 --> 19:01.973 LIKE WE JUST -- THEY JUST WANT US TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 19:01.975 --> 19:02.673 US TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND GET AN EDUCATION INSPIRED 19:02.675 --> 19:02.940 AND GET AN EDUCATION INSPIRED IT. 19:02.942 --> 19:03.674 IT. >> JESSICA, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT 19:03.676 --> 19:06.911 >> JESSICA, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THE 19:06.913 --> 19:10.348 THERE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THE REASONS WHY YOUR PARENTS BROUGHT 19:10.350 --> 19:11.082 REASONS WHY YOUR PARENTS BROUGHT YOU TO THE U.S. AT SUCH A YOUNG 19:11.084 --> 19:11.449 YOU TO THE U.S. AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE. 19:11.451 --> 19:14.452 AGE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE? 19:14.454 --> 19:16.387 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE? >> I CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY MOM, 19:16.389 --> 19:17.421 >> I CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY MOM, BUT I CAN SEE FROM HER ACTIONS 19:17.423 --> 19:18.156 BUT I CAN SEE FROM HER ACTIONS SHE WANTED US TO HAVE A BETTER 19:18.158 --> 19:21.392 SHE WANTED US TO HAVE A BETTER LIVING. 19:21.394 --> 19:22.593 LIVING. IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT'S GOING 19:22.595 --> 19:24.529 IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT'S GOING ON IN MEXICO WITH THE NARCOS AND 19:24.531 --> 19:27.999 ON IN MEXICO WITH THE NARCOS AND THE DRUG CARTELS AND ALL THAT. 19:28.001 --> 19:34.138 THE DRUG CARTELS AND ALL THAT. AND AS A WOMAN, I REALLY -- I 19:34.140 --> 19:37.508 AND AS A WOMAN, I REALLY -- I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE THERE. 19:37.510 --> 19:41.779 DON'T WANT YOU TO BE THERE. AND OVER HERE, AS WELL, IT'S NOT 19:41.781 --> 19:45.149 AND OVER HERE, AS WELL, IT'S NOT THE SAME OPPORTUNITY IT HERE 19:45.151 --> 19:45.783 THE SAME OPPORTUNITY IT HERE THAN HAVING IT IN MEXICO. 19:45.785 --> 19:47.618 THAN HAVING IT IN MEXICO. MEXICO, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN BE 19:47.620 --> 19:50.755 MEXICO, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN BE GOOD IN EVERYTHING AND YOU'LL 19:50.757 --> 19:51.489 GOOD IN EVERYTHING AND YOU'LL HAVE EVERYTHING, EITHER THERE'S 19:51.491 --> 19:52.223 HAVE EVERYTHING, EITHER THERE'S A SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT 19:52.225 --> 19:55.793 A SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT WITH. 19:55.795 --> 19:57.929 WITH. AND SOMETIMES IT'S A SYSTEM YOU 19:57.931 --> 19:59.030 AND SOMETIMES IT'S A SYSTEM YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AT. 19:59.032 --> 19:59.697 DON'T WANT TO BE AT. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I 19:59.699 --> 20:04.302 THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DECIDED TO STAY. 20:04.304 --> 20:06.671 DECIDED TO STAY. AND I'M PROUD SHE BROUGHT US IN. 20:06.673 --> 20:07.805 AND I'M PROUD SHE BROUGHT US IN. >> WHAT IS YOUR IMMIGRATION 20:07.807 --> 20:08.906 >> WHAT IS YOUR IMMIGRATION STATUS RIGHT NOW? 20:08.908 --> 20:12.843 STATUS RIGHT NOW? >> AS OF NOW, I HAVE DEFERRED. 20:12.845 --> 20:14.845 >> AS OF NOW, I HAVE DEFERRED. >> WHAT DOES THE GOVERNMENT NEED 20:14.847 --> 20:17.014 >> WHAT DOES THE GOVERNMENT NEED TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE -- STUDENTS 20:17.016 --> 20:17.915 TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE -- STUDENTS LIKE YOU? 20:17.917 --> 20:19.450 LIKE YOU? >> IT CAN BE UP TO ANY STATE, 20:19.452 --> 20:24.255 >> IT CAN BE UP TO ANY STATE, WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT. 20:24.257 --> 20:24.922 WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT. I CAN SAY SEE THAT'S NOT A 20:24.924 --> 20:29.760 I CAN SAY SEE THAT'S NOT A SOLUTION. 20:29.762 --> 20:33.197 SOLUTION. IT'S NOT THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR 20:33.199 --> 20:34.665 IT'S NOT THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR IT, BUT IT ONLY GOES FOR TWO 20:34.667 --> 20:36.200 IT, BUT IT ONLY GOES FOR TWO YEARS AND WE KNOW IN ARIZONA 20:36.202 --> 20:37.168 YEARS AND WE KNOW IN ARIZONA IT'S NOT GOOD. 20:37.170 --> 20:38.035 IT'S NOT GOOD. ONLY TO WORK. 20:38.037 --> 20:41.172 ONLY TO WORK. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF LIMITS 20:41.174 --> 20:41.906 THERE'S STILL A LOT OF LIMITS AND ONE OF THEM IS EDUCATION AND 20:41.908 --> 20:44.575 AND ONE OF THEM IS EDUCATION AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE RIGHT TO 20:44.577 --> 20:48.045 THE OTHER ONE IS THE RIGHT TO DRIVE OR HAVE AN I.D. 20:48.047 --> 20:49.013 DRIVE OR HAVE AN I.D. >> WHAT DO YOU WANT THE 20:49.015 --> 20:50.014 >> WHAT DO YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE 20:50.016 --> 20:54.051 GOVERNMENT TO KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU, THE DREAMERS LIKE YOU? 20:54.053 --> 20:54.719 LIKE YOU, THE DREAMERS LIKE YOU? >> WE JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR 20:54.721 --> 20:55.253 >> WE JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES TOGETHER. 20:55.255 --> 20:57.221 FAMILIES TOGETHER. >> YOU SAID YOUR FATHER IS IN 20:57.223 --> 20:57.555 >> YOU SAID YOUR FATHER IS IN MEXICO. 20:57.557 --> 20:57.888 MEXICO. >> YES. 20:57.890 --> 20:58.623 >> YES. >> IS THAT HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY, 20:58.625 --> 20:59.290 >> IS THAT HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY, KNOWING HE'S OVER THERE AND 20:59.292 --> 20:59.757 KNOWING HE'S OVER THERE AND YOU'RE ALL HERE? 20:59.759 --> 21:00.758 YOU'RE ALL HERE? >> YES. 21:00.760 --> 21:01.492 >> YES. SO WE DON'T GET TO SEE HIM EVERY 21:01.494 --> 21:06.264 SO WE DON'T GET TO SEE HIM EVERY DAY. 21:06.266 --> 21:07.898 DAY. WE DON'T CALL HIM, LIKE WE'RE 21:07.900 --> 21:16.007 WE DON'T CALL HIM, LIKE WE'RE NOT ON THE PHONE EVERY SINGLE 21:16.009 --> 21:16.607 NOT ON THE PHONE EVERY SINGLE DAY, EVERY SINGLE HOUR. 21:16.609 --> 21:17.341 DAY, EVERY SINGLE HOUR. SO IN THAT SENSE WE DON'T HAVE 21:17.343 --> 21:17.808 SO IN THAT SENSE WE DON'T HAVE HIM NEXT TO US. 21:17.810 --> 21:18.476 HIM NEXT TO US. >> DO YOU WISH THINGS WERE 21:18.478 --> 21:18.843 >> DO YOU WISH THINGS WERE DIFFERENT? 21:18.845 --> 21:19.176 DIFFERENT? >> YES. 21:19.178 --> 21:19.910 >> YES. IT WOULD BE SO BETTER IF WE WERE 21:19.912 --> 21:25.349 IT WOULD BE SO BETTER IF WE WERE ABLE TO GO AND SEE HIM AND NOT 21:25.351 --> 21:29.687 ABLE TO GO AND SEE HIM AND NOT TAKE HIM COMING HERE AND SEE -- 21:29.689 --> 21:33.791 TAKE HIM COMING HERE AND SEE -- THERE MUST BE A PROBLEM WHEN HE 21:33.793 --> 21:34.292 THERE MUST BE A PROBLEM WHEN HE CROSSES THE LINES. 21:34.294 --> 21:38.195 CROSSES THE LINES. HE CAN COME IN, BUT SOMETIMES 21:38.197 --> 21:42.466 HE CAN COME IN, BUT SOMETIMES HE'S LIKE WHO ARE YOU VISITING 21:42.468 --> 21:43.167 HE'S LIKE WHO ARE YOU VISITING OVER THERE AND THE QUESTIONS 21:43.169 --> 21:44.568 OVER THERE AND THE QUESTIONS THAT CAN LEAD TO FINDING OUT HIS 21:44.570 --> 21:46.304 THAT CAN LEAD TO FINDING OUT HIS FAMILY IS LIVING IN THE U.S. 21:46.306 --> 21:49.807 FAMILY IS LIVING IN THE U.S. >> WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS? 21:49.809 --> 21:50.474 >> WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS? >> TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION. 21:50.476 --> 21:51.208 >> TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION. I'M TRYING TO GET INTO ANOTHER 21:51.210 --> 21:51.542 I'M TRYING TO GET INTO ANOTHER COLLEGE. 21:51.544 --> 21:54.712 COLLEGE. AND THEN CONTINUE THAT. 21:54.714 --> 21:56.147 AND THEN CONTINUE THAT. >> WHAT ARE YOUR LONG-TERM 21:56.149 --> 21:56.447 >> WHAT ARE YOUR LONG-TERM GOALS? 21:56.449 --> 21:57.915 GOALS? DO YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.? 21:57.917 --> 21:58.649 DO YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.? DO YOU WANT TO RETURN TO MEXICO? 21:58.651 --> 22:03.821 DO YOU WANT TO RETURN TO MEXICO? >> I WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S. 22:03.823 --> 22:05.856 >> I WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S. PROBABLY OWN MY OWN BUSINESS. 22:05.858 --> 22:06.857 PROBABLY OWN MY OWN BUSINESS. WORK FOR A NONPROFIT, TO 22:06.859 --> 22:07.591 WORK FOR A NONPROFIT, TO CONTINUE WITH THE NONPROFITS AND 22:07.593 --> 22:10.127 CONTINUE WITH THE NONPROFITS AND ALSO LOCAL BUSINESSES. 22:10.129 --> 22:12.430 ALSO LOCAL BUSINESSES. >> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 22:12.432 --> 22:15.599 >> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION BECAUSE IT WILL BE 22:15.601 --> 22:16.500 IMMIGRATION BECAUSE IT WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF NEXT WEEK'S 22:16.502 --> 22:18.669 THE SUBJECT OF NEXT WEEK'S INDEPENDENT LENS, ENTITLED STATE 22:18.671 --> 22:19.337 INDEPENDENT LENS, ENTITLED STATE OF ARIZONA. 22:19.339 --> 22:22.340 OF ARIZONA. HERE'S A PREVIEW OF NEXT WEEK'S 22:22.342 --> 22:22.673 HERE'S A PREVIEW OF NEXT WEEK'S EPISODE. 22:22.675 --> 22:25.242 EPISODE. >> GOING TO ALLOW EVERY POLICE 22:25.244 --> 22:27.845 >> GOING TO ALLOW EVERY POLICE AGENCY IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA 22:27.847 --> 22:29.880 AGENCY IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA TO DO WHAT SHERIFF ARPAIO HAS 22:29.882 --> 22:31.682 TO DO WHAT SHERIFF ARPAIO HAS BEEN DOING AND THAT'S 22:31.684 --> 22:33.484 BEEN DOING AND THAT'S TERRORIZING AND SEPARATING OUR 22:33.486 --> 22:33.884 TERRORIZING AND SEPARATING OUR COMMUNITY. 22:33.886 --> 22:34.518 COMMUNITY. >> WE GREW UP LOVING THIS 22:34.520 --> 22:34.852 >> WE GREW UP LOVING THIS COUNTRY. 22:34.854 --> 22:35.553 COUNTRY. LOVING EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS 22:35.555 --> 22:37.788 LOVING EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. 22:37.790 --> 22:39.156 COUNTRY. WE HAVE GOT 1 -- I THINK THE 22:39.158 --> 22:39.690 WE HAVE GOT 1 -- I THINK THE NUMBER IS UP TO 170 22:39.692 --> 22:42.293 NUMBER IS UP TO 170 NATIONALITIES THAT HAVE BEEN 22:42.295 --> 22:42.960 NATIONALITIES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT ARE COMING 22:42.962 --> 22:46.330 IDENTIFIED THAT ARE COMING ACROSS THAT BORDER. 22:46.332 --> 22:47.798 ACROSS THAT BORDER. SOME COUNTRIES OF INTEREST, 22:47.800 --> 22:50.668 SOME COUNTRIES OF INTEREST, MEANING THEY HARBOR, AID, ABET 22:50.670 --> 22:54.405 MEANING THEY HARBOR, AID, ABET OR SOMEHOW ARE INVOLVED IN 22:54.407 --> 22:55.139 OR SOMEHOW ARE INVOLVED IN TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S 22:55.141 --> 22:57.541 TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S PRETTY DANGEROUS. 22:57.543 --> 22:58.275 PRETTY DANGEROUS. THE FEDS COULDN'T ENFORCE THIS 22:58.277 --> 23:00.711 THE FEDS COULDN'T ENFORCE THIS BY THEMSELVES. 23:00.713 --> 23:06.083 BY THEMSELVES. YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE THE POLICE 23:06.085 --> 23:07.785 YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE THE POLICE OFFICERS A TRAFFIC STOP AT A 23:07.787 --> 23:08.085 OFFICERS A TRAFFIC STOP AT A TIME. 23:08.087 --> 23:09.120 TIME. >> THAT AIRS HERE ON PBS 6 ON 23:09.122 --> 23:09.553 >> THAT AIRS HERE ON PBS 6 ON MONDAY NIGHT. 23:09.555 --> 23:13.357 MONDAY NIGHT. >>> NOW TO THE WEEKLY SESSION ON 23:13.359 --> 23:15.192 >>> NOW TO THE WEEKLY SESSION ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE 23:15.194 --> 23:16.894 WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE LEGISLATURE WITH CHRISTOPHER 23:16.896 --> 23:18.195 LEGISLATURE WITH CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THIS WEEK, LET'S START 23:18.197 --> 23:21.632 CONOVER, THIS WEEK, LET'S START OFF WITH THE BUDGET WHICH WE 23:21.634 --> 23:22.600 OFF WITH THE BUDGET WHICH WE ENDED OFF ON LAST WEEK. 23:22.602 --> 23:23.534 ENDED OFF ON LAST WEEK. WHAT'S THE LATEST THERE? 23:23.536 --> 23:25.503 WHAT'S THE LATEST THERE? >> WELL, LAST WEEK, GOVERNOR 23:25.505 --> 23:27.171 >> WELL, LAST WEEK, GOVERNOR BREWER HAD JUST RELEASED HER 23:27.173 --> 23:29.039 BREWER HAD JUST RELEASED HER BUDGET SO WE GOT THE GOVERNOR'S 23:29.041 --> 23:30.374 BUDGET SO WE GOT THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN OR WHAT SHE'D LIKE THE 23:30.376 --> 23:31.041 PLAN OR WHAT SHE'D LIKE THE LEGISLATURE TO DO. 23:31.043 --> 23:33.210 LEGISLATURE TO DO. IT INCLUDES SOME LONG-TERM LOOKS 23:33.212 --> 23:35.479 IT INCLUDES SOME LONG-TERM LOOKS AND REVENUE ESTIMATES AND THINGS 23:35.481 --> 23:36.814 AND REVENUE ESTIMATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE NEXT FEW 23:36.816 --> 23:37.515 LIKE THAT FOR THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS. 23:37.517 --> 23:39.016 FISCAL YEARS. THIS WEEK, THE LEGISLATURE AFTER 23:39.018 --> 23:40.684 THIS WEEK, THE LEGISLATURE AFTER TAKING MONDAY OFF FOR THE MARTIN 23:40.686 --> 23:41.419 TAKING MONDAY OFF FOR THE MARTIN LUTHER KING HOLIDAY BEGAN THEIR 23:41.421 --> 23:44.922 LUTHER KING HOLIDAY BEGAN THEIR WEEK WITH A JOINT MEETING OF THE 23:44.924 --> 23:46.557 WEEK WITH A JOINT MEETING OF THE TWO BUDGET COMMITTEES, HOUSE AND 23:46.559 --> 23:48.626 TWO BUDGET COMMITTEES, HOUSE AND SENATE, AND THEY HEARD IN THE 23:48.628 --> 23:50.361 SENATE, AND THEY HEARD IN THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET 23:50.363 --> 23:50.828 JOINT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET COMMITTEE. 23:50.830 --> 23:53.964 COMMITTEE. BASICALLY, THEIR ACCOUNTANTS AN 23:53.966 --> 23:55.800 BASICALLY, THEIR ACCOUNTANTS AN BOOKKEEPERS ON THE JLBC'S 23:55.802 --> 23:57.067 BOOKKEEPERS ON THE JLBC'S ESTIMATE FOR WHAT THE FINANCIAL 23:57.069 --> 23:57.735 ESTIMATE FOR WHAT THE FINANCIAL PICTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE 23:57.737 --> 24:00.671 PICTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE COMING FEW YEARS. 24:00.673 --> 24:02.907 COMING FEW YEARS. AND IT SETS UP OUR FIRST BIG 24:02.909 --> 24:04.341 AND IT SETS UP OUR FIRST BIG DEBATE OF THE LEGISLATIVE 24:04.343 --> 24:05.276 DEBATE OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE 24:05.278 --> 24:06.444 SESSION BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR. 24:06.446 --> 24:07.678 AND THE GOVERNOR. THE GOVERNOR AND HER BUDGET 24:07.680 --> 24:08.345 THE GOVERNOR AND HER BUDGET PROJECTS OUT THREE YEARS TO 24:08.347 --> 24:11.649 PROJECTS OUT THREE YEARS TO FISCAL 2017. 24:11.651 --> 24:15.486 FISCAL 2017. AND SHE'S PROJECTING ABOUT 24:15.488 --> 24:18.489 AND SHE'S PROJECTING ABOUT $400 MILLION IN SURPLUS IN 2017. 24:18.491 --> 24:20.424 $400 MILLION IN SURPLUS IN 2017. THE JLBC CAME BACK AND PROJECTED 24:20.426 --> 24:22.092 THE JLBC CAME BACK AND PROJECTED OUT THREE YEARS AND SAID THIS 24:22.094 --> 24:22.793 OUT THREE YEARS AND SAID THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR WE'RE FINE. 24:22.795 --> 24:31.569 COMING FISCAL YEAR WE'RE FINE. NEXT YEAR, ZERO -- IT IT'S A DE 24:31.571 --> 24:34.705 NEXT YEAR, ZERO -- IT IT'S A DE BALANCED BUDGET AND FOR 2017 A 24:34.707 --> 24:35.339 BALANCED BUDGET AND FOR 2017 A $600 MILLION SHORT FALL. 24:35.341 --> 24:36.841 $600 MILLION SHORT FALL. >> PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAP. 24:36.843 --> 24:38.776 >> PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAP. WHERE DOES IT COME FROM? 24:38.778 --> 24:39.710 WHERE DOES IT COME FROM? >> THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP. 24:39.712 --> 24:41.078 >> THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP. THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE PUT 24:41.080 --> 24:44.482 THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE PUT TOGETHER IS A LITTLE BIT OF 24:44.484 --> 24:45.149 TOGETHER IS A LITTLE BIT OF GUESS WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE 24:45.151 --> 24:45.850 GUESS WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE FORECASTING WHAT WILL HAPPEN 24:45.852 --> 24:49.420 FORECASTING WHAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS. 24:49.422 --> 24:52.756 OVER THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS. THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN USES SOME 24:52.758 --> 24:54.391 THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN USES SOME INCREASES IN REVENUE, TAX 24:54.393 --> 24:54.792 INCREASES IN REVENUE, TAX COLLECTIONS. 24:54.794 --> 24:58.062 COLLECTIONS. SHE IS NOT CALLING FOR AN 24:58.064 --> 24:58.762 SHE IS NOT CALLING FOR AN INCREASE IN TAXES BUT AS THE 24:58.764 --> 24:59.797 INCREASE IN TAXES BUT AS THE ECONOMY IMPROVES, MORE TAXES ARE 24:59.799 --> 25:00.931 ECONOMY IMPROVES, MORE TAXES ARE GETTING PAID. 25:00.933 --> 25:03.000 GETTING PAID. SHE ALSO HAS LESS SPENDING 25:03.002 --> 25:05.669 SHE ALSO HAS LESS SPENDING PROJECTED OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW 25:05.671 --> 25:08.572 PROJECTED OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS THAN THE JLBC DOES. 25:08.574 --> 25:09.940 YEARS THAN THE JLBC DOES. THE JLBC BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER 25:09.942 --> 25:11.442 THE JLBC BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS 25:11.444 --> 25:12.443 BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS AND IT'S A COMPILATION INCLUDING 25:12.445 --> 25:13.043 AND IT'S A COMPILATION INCLUDING SOME PROFESSORS AT THE 25:13.045 --> 25:17.014 SOME PROFESSORS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA. 25:17.016 --> 25:19.083 UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA. SO LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF 25:19.085 --> 25:19.450 SO LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF NUMBERS. 25:19.452 --> 25:21.185 NUMBERS. >> ARE WE LIKELY TO SEE THE 25:21.187 --> 25:21.919 >> ARE WE LIKELY TO SEE THE LEGISLATURE TAKE ANY MONEY FROM 25:21.921 --> 25:23.954 LEGISLATURE TAKE ANY MONEY FROM THE AREAS THAT THE GOVERNOR 25:23.956 --> 25:25.456 THE AREAS THAT THE GOVERNOR WANTED TO PUMP MORE MONEY INTO, 25:25.458 --> 25:28.592 WANTED TO PUMP MORE MONEY INTO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT USED TO BE 25:28.594 --> 25:28.859 FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT USED TO BE CPS? 25:28.861 --> 25:29.293 CPS? >> ABSOLUTELY. 25:29.295 --> 25:30.127 >> ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS THE INTERESTING DEBATE. 25:30.129 --> 25:32.663 THIS IS THE INTERESTING DEBATE. ONCE THEY SETTLE ON HOW MUCH 25:32.665 --> 25:36.367 ONCE THEY SETTLE ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH, 25:36.369 --> 25:37.034 MONEY THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH, THEY'LL BEGIN CRAFTING THE 25:37.036 --> 25:37.368 THEY'LL BEGIN CRAFTING THE BUDGET. 25:37.370 --> 25:38.035 BUDGET. THE LEGISLATURE IS UNDER NO 25:38.037 --> 25:38.669 THE LEGISLATURE IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO DO WHAT THE 25:38.671 --> 25:39.837 OBLIGATION TO DO WHAT THE GOVERNOR WANTS AND THERE'S 25:39.839 --> 25:44.642 GOVERNOR WANTS AND THERE'S PLENTY OF HISTORIC PRECEDENT FOR 25:44.644 --> 25:45.376 PLENTY OF HISTORIC PRECEDENT FOR A LEGISLATURE DOING EXACTLY WHAT 25:45.378 --> 25:48.712 A LEGISLATURE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T WANT. 25:48.714 --> 25:50.347 THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T WANT. IT'S UP TO THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN 25:50.349 --> 25:51.615 IT'S UP TO THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN IT AND THAT'S WHEN THE REAL 25:51.617 --> 25:52.716 IT AND THAT'S WHEN THE REAL NEGOTIATION BEGINS BETWEEN THE 25:52.718 --> 25:53.918 NEGOTIATION BEGINS BETWEEN THE TWO BRANCHS OF GOVERNMENT AND 25:53.920 --> 25:55.786 TWO BRANCHS OF GOVERNMENT AND YOU GET THE ARGUMENTS BETWEEN 25:55.788 --> 25:56.520 YOU GET THE ARGUMENTS BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE BEFORE 25:56.522 --> 25:59.156 THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE BEFORE A FINAL BUDGET IS SENT TO THE 25:59.158 --> 26:01.859 A FINAL BUDGET IS SENT TO THE BUDGET AND MORE ARGUMENTS 26:01.861 --> 26:02.192 BUDGET AND MORE ARGUMENTS BEGINS. 26:02.194 --> 26:05.195 BEGINS. >> IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO 26:05.197 --> 26:05.462 >> IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE. 26:05.464 --> 26:06.196 SEE. LET'S MOVE TO ELECTION REFORM, 26:06.198 --> 26:07.231 LET'S MOVE TO ELECTION REFORM, IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE 26:07.233 --> 26:10.734 IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN THIS PAST WEEK, BUT WE'LL 26:10.736 --> 26:11.335 SEEN THIS PAST WEEK, BUT WE'LL LOOK TOWARD NEXT WEEK. 26:11.337 --> 26:13.470 LOOK TOWARD NEXT WEEK. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 26:13.472 --> 26:14.738 >> THAT'S RIGHT. A CONTROVERSIAL BILL ENDED UP IN 26:14.740 --> 26:16.574 A CONTROVERSIAL BILL ENDED UP IN THE COURT ENDED UP THE SUBJECT 26:16.576 --> 26:17.374 THE COURT ENDED UP THE SUBJECT OF A PETITION DRIVE THAT'S 26:17.376 --> 26:18.108 OF A PETITION DRIVE THAT'S GETTING ON THE BALLOT THAT WOULD 26:18.110 --> 26:19.643 GETTING ON THE BALLOT THAT WOULD PULL BACK OR REPEAL WHAT THE 26:19.645 --> 26:24.248 PULL BACK OR REPEAL WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID LAST YEAR. 26:24.250 --> 26:26.150 LEGISLATURE DID LAST YEAR. WELL, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED IN THE 26:26.152 --> 26:26.884 WELL, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED IN THE LEGISLATURE ESPECIALLY 26:26.886 --> 26:27.618 LEGISLATURE ESPECIALLY REPUBLICANS THAT IF VOTERS PASS 26:27.620 --> 26:28.352 REPUBLICANS THAT IF VOTERS PASS THAT AND REPEAL IT, THERE'S NO 26:28.354 --> 26:32.056 THAT AND REPEAL IT, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE COULD 26:32.058 --> 26:35.726 WAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE COULD EVER GO BACK IN AND RETWEAK 26:35.728 --> 26:36.460 EVER GO BACK IN AND RETWEAK THINGS, AT LEAST FOR A FEW YEARS 26:36.462 --> 26:38.095 THINGS, AT LEAST FOR A FEW YEARS BECAUSE THIS WAS NOW A CITIZEN 26:38.097 --> 26:38.495 BECAUSE THIS WAS NOW A CITIZEN INITIATIVE. 26:38.497 --> 26:39.129 INITIATIVE. WHAT THE LEGISLATURE, THE 26:39.131 --> 26:39.863 WHAT THE LEGISLATURE, THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO DO IS 26:39.865 --> 26:44.034 REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO DO IS REPEAL THAT LAW NOW THEMSELVES. 26:44.036 --> 26:47.638 REPEAL THAT LAW NOW THEMSELVES. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT IN 26:47.640 --> 26:48.339 THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT IN THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. 26:48.341 --> 26:50.441 THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. REPRESENTATIVE EDDIE FARNSWORTH 26:50.443 --> 26:51.875 REPRESENTATIVE EDDIE FARNSWORTH WAS SPONSORING IT. 26:51.877 --> 26:52.810 WAS SPONSORING IT. THE ROOM WAS FULL. 26:52.812 --> 26:55.579 THE ROOM WAS FULL. EVERYBODY WAS WAITING FOR THE 26:55.581 --> 26:55.879 EVERYBODY WAS WAITING FOR THE FIGHT. 26:55.881 --> 26:57.748 FIGHT. HE STARTED THE MEETING AND 26:57.750 --> 26:58.415 HE STARTED THE MEETING AND ANNOUNCED THAT BILL WAS NOT 26:58.417 --> 27:01.385 ANNOUNCED THAT BILL WAS NOT BEING HEARD THIS WEEK. 27:01.387 --> 27:05.456 BEING HEARD THIS WEEK. THE ROOM VERY QUICKLY EMPTIED, 27:05.458 --> 27:06.457 THE ROOM VERY QUICKLY EMPTIED, FARNSWORTH JOKED ABOUT IT. 27:06.459 --> 27:08.258 FARNSWORTH JOKED ABOUT IT. THEY SAID THEY'RE STILL WORKING 27:08.260 --> 27:09.093 THEY SAID THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE LANGUAGE. 27:09.095 --> 27:11.795 ON THE LANGUAGE. >> SO WE'RE GETTING THE -- 27:11.797 --> 27:13.030 >> SO WE'RE GETTING THE -- THEY'RE GETTING THEIR DUCKS IN A 27:13.032 --> 27:16.133 THEY'RE GETTING THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW BEFORE THEY BRING EVERYTHING 27:16.135 --> 27:16.567 ROW BEFORE THEY BRING EVERYTHING TO THE TABLE. 27:16.569 --> 27:16.967 TO THE TABLE. >> EXACTLY. 27:16.969 --> 27:17.835 >> EXACTLY. >> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THANK 27:17.837 --> 27:19.303 >> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. 27:19.305 --> 27:21.772 YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. AGAIN, I SHOULD MENTION YOU WILL 27:21.774 --> 27:23.607 AGAIN, I SHOULD MENTION YOU WILL BE A REGULAR CONTRIBUTOR HERE ON 27:23.609 --> 27:24.074 BE A REGULAR CONTRIBUTOR HERE ON "ARIZONA WEEK." 27:24.076 --> 27:24.942 "ARIZONA WEEK." 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