ESPECIALLY HERE IN ARIZONA.
IT'S ONE MANY FROM ALL SPECTRUMS
IT'S ONE MANY FROM ALL SPECTRUMS
ARE WATCHING.
ARE WATCHING.
>> I HAVE A MIXED FAMILY, MY MOM
>> I HAVE A MIXED FAMILY, MY MOM
IS ILLEGAL.
IS ILLEGAL.
I MEAN JUST TO TEAR APART THE
I MEAN JUST TO TEAR APART THE
FAMILY IT'S REALLY SAD.
FAMILY IT'S REALLY SAD.
IT'S NOT FAIR.
IT'S NOT FAIR.
>> WE WANT TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES
>> WE WANT TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES
TOGETHER.
TOGETHER.
>> FROM DREAMERS TO THE BOOTS ON
>> FROM DREAMERS TO THE BOOTS ON
THE GROUND, --
THE GROUND, --
>> THE AGENTS ARE --
>> THE AGENTS ARE --
>> IT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
>> IT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
>> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
>> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
>> A LOOK AT THE STATUS OF
>> A LOOK AT THE STATUS OF
IMMIGRATION IN THE STATE.
IMMIGRATION IN THE STATE.
THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
IT'S UP FOR DEBATE, IS THE
BORDER SECURE?
BORDER SECURE?
MANY TIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHOM
MANY TIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHOM
YOU ASK, BUT WHAT DO THE MEN AND
YOU ASK, BUT WHAT DO THE MEN AND
WOMEN WHO PATROL THE DESERTS SAY
WOMEN WHO PATROL THE DESERTS SAY
ABOUT THE RUGGED TERRAIN BETWEEN
ABOUT THE RUGGED TERRAIN BETWEEN
ARIZONA AND MEXICO?
ARIZONA AND MEXICO?
HERE IS ART DEL CUENTO,
HERE IS ART DEL CUENTO,
PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL 2544
PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL 2544
NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL.
NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL.
THE UNION IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
THE UNION IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
IS THE BORDER SECURE TO YOU?
IS THE BORDER SECURE TO YOU?
>> I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS
>> I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS
WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE
WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE
BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
BUT IS IT COMPLETELY SECURE BY
BUT IS IT COMPLETELY SECURE BY
NO MEANS.
NO MEANS.
IT'S -- I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S
IT'S -- I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S
CLOSE TO SECURE.
CLOSE TO SECURE.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SEEN A RAISE
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SEEN A RAISE
IN VIOLENCE ON THE SOUTH END OF
IN VIOLENCE ON THE SOUTH END OF
WHERE WE WORK.
WHERE WE WORK.
THAT'S DIRECTLY WHERE WE WORK.
THAT'S DIRECTLY WHERE WE WORK.
SO THAT CONSTANTLY TRICKLES IN.
SO THAT CONSTANTLY TRICKLES IN.
CURRENTLY THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT
CURRENTLY THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT
PERHAPS THE AMOUNT OF
PERHAPS THE AMOUNT OF
APPREHENSIONS WE GET MIGHT BE
APPREHENSIONS WE GET MIGHT BE
LOWER BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE TOP
LOWER BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE TOP
WHEN IT COMES TO DRUG SEIZURES.
WHEN IT COMES TO DRUG SEIZURES.
IN FACT, ONE INTERESTING FACT,
IN FACT, ONE INTERESTING FACT,
THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE IS THAT
THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE IS THAT
THE TUCSON SECTOR ALONE IS
THE TUCSON SECTOR ALONE IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR 60% OF ALL THE
RESPONSIBLE FOR 60% OF ALL THE
DRUG SEIZURES IN THE ENTIRE
DRUG SEIZURES IN THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
>> YOU TALK ABOUT SEIZURES GOING
>> YOU TALK ABOUT SEIZURES GOING
UP.
UP.
THAT MEANS SOMETHING YOU GUYS
THAT MEANS SOMETHING YOU GUYS
ARE DOING IS WORKING.
ARE DOING IS WORKING.
WHAT IS THAT?
WHAT IS THAT?
IT IS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE
IT IS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE
AGENTS?
AGENTS?
>> WE DID RECEIVE MORE AGENTS.
>> WE DID RECEIVE MORE AGENTS.
WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T
WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T
UNDERSTAND IS ALTHOUGH WE HAVE
UNDERSTAND IS ALTHOUGH WE HAVE
MORE AGENTS, THE AGENCY GREW AT
MORE AGENTS, THE AGENCY GREW AT
A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.
A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.
SO WE DID BRING IN MORE AGENTS.
SO WE DID BRING IN MORE AGENTS.
BUT OTHER AGENTS -- AGENCIES DID
BUT OTHER AGENTS -- AGENCIES DID
NOT GROW TO THAT EFFECT.
NOT GROW TO THAT EFFECT.
SO WHAT WE FIND OURSELVES DOING
SO WHAT WE FIND OURSELVES DOING
IS FARMING OUT A LOT OF THE
IS FARMING OUT A LOT OF THE
AGENTS OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES.
AGENTS OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES.
AGENCIES COVERING PROSECUTIONS,
AGENCIES COVERING PROSECUTIONS,
COVERING THE DEA.
COVERING THE DEA.
SOME AGENTS ARE WORKING AT THE
SOME AGENTS ARE WORKING AT THE
PORT OF ENTRIES.
PORT OF ENTRIES.
BECAUSE THOSE AGENCIES DIDN'T
BECAUSE THOSE AGENCIES DIDN'T
GROW AS FAST.
GROW AS FAST.
SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ON
SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ON
PAPER, YOU SEE THAT WE DO HAVE
PAPER, YOU SEE THAT WE DO HAVE
MORE AGENTS.
MORE AGENTS.
BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE DOING
BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE DOING
THE AGENT WORK.
THE AGENT WORK.
THEY HAVEN'T FARMED OUT TO OTHER
THEY HAVEN'T FARMED OUT TO OTHER
AGENCIES, ASSISTING OTHER
AGENCIES, ASSISTING OTHER
AGENCIES.
AGENCIES.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN
THE ISSUE OF BUDGET CUTS.
THE ISSUE OF BUDGET CUTS.
IS THE AGENCY DOING MORE TO MAKE
IS THE AGENCY DOING MORE TO MAKE
YOUR JOB SAFER?
YOUR JOB SAFER?
>> WELL, AS FAR AS SAFETY, WITH
>> WELL, AS FAR AS SAFETY, WITH
LESS MONEY THERE'S LESS
LESS MONEY THERE'S LESS
MAINTENANCE FOR THE VEHICLES.
MAINTENANCE FOR THE VEHICLES.
THERE'S STUFF -- STUFF BREAKS,
THERE'S STUFF -- STUFF BREAKS,
IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO
IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO
FIX.
FIX.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, I
SO WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, I
MEAN, THE BUDGET JUST AFFECTS
MEAN, THE BUDGET JUST AFFECTS
EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING.
IT AFFECTS ALL AROUND
IT AFFECTS ALL AROUND
EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING.
>> THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES
>> THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES
HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA THAT
HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA THAT
SAW A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND
SAW A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND
MAYBE IN SOME CASES SEALED OFF
MAYBE IN SOME CASES SEALED OFF
THE BORDER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
THE BORDER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
WHAT THE GEOGRAPHY LOOKS LIKE.
WHAT THE GEOGRAPHY LOOKS LIKE.
BUT THERE ARE THOSE CRITICS WHO
BUT THERE ARE THOSE CRITICS WHO
SAY IT PUSHED THE TRAFFIC
SAY IT PUSHED THE TRAFFIC
OUTWARD AND CREATED A WHOLE NEW
OUTWARD AND CREATED A WHOLE NEW
BALL OF WAX.
BALL OF WAX.
NEW PROBLEM.
NEW PROBLEM.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
>> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
>> I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAKING THE
>> I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAKING THE
RIGHT STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO
RIGHT STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO
BLOCKING CERTAIN AREAS BUT I'M A
BLOCKING CERTAIN AREAS BUT I'M A
REALIST AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR
REALIST AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR
PROCESS AND THINKING BEHIND
PROCESS AND THINKING BEHIND
WANTING TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
WANTING TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE AREA THAT MOST PEOPLE SEE
THE AREA THAT MOST PEOPLE SEE
ARE THE PORTS OF ENTRIES AND THE
ARE THE PORTS OF ENTRIES AND THE
SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE CITY.
SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE CITY.
YOU GO AT STEPS TO BLOCK THAT
YOU GO AT STEPS TO BLOCK THAT
OFF.
OFF.
IT GIVES THE PUBLIC PERSONA THE
IT GIVES THE PUBLIC PERSONA THE
IMAGE OF HEY, IT'S SECURE NOW.
IMAGE OF HEY, IT'S SECURE NOW.
IT'S SETTLED.
IT'S SETTLED.
BUT IF YOU TRAVEL THREE MORE
BUT IF YOU TRAVEL THREE MORE
MILES OUT YOU WILL SEE HOW BAD
MILES OUT YOU WILL SEE HOW BAD
THE AREA IS AND WHERE THE FENCE
THE AREA IS AND WHERE THE FENCE
IS SET UP.
IS SET UP.
AND EVEN THOSE WORKING ON THE
AND EVEN THOSE WORKING ON THE
RESERVATION NEARBY, THERE IS NO
RESERVATION NEARBY, THERE IS NO
FENCE.
FENCE.
SO THAT HAS INCREASED.
SO THAT HAS INCREASED.
INCREASED THE VIOLENCE -- THE
INCREASED THE VIOLENCE -- THE
VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED.
VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED.
I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE.
I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED WE USED TO
WHEN I FIRST STARTED WE USED TO
CATCH GROUPS AND THEY WERE
CATCH GROUPS AND THEY WERE
ARRESTED AND THEY WERE DONE.
ARRESTED AND THEY WERE DONE.
NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE
NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE
THAT EVERY GROUP WE CATCH, IT'S
THAT EVERY GROUP WE CATCH, IT'S
A STRUGGLE, IT'S A FIGHT.
A STRUGGLE, IT'S A FIGHT.
I MEAN, THE -- WE'RE IN MORE
I MEAN, THE -- WE'RE IN MORE
REMOTE AREAS NOW WHERE THE BIG
REMOTE AREAS NOW WHERE THE BIG
GROUPS ARE CROSSING.
GROUPS ARE CROSSING.
SO IT'S BEEN MORE DANGEROUS TO
SO IT'S BEEN MORE DANGEROUS TO
THE AGENTS I WOULD SAY.
THE AGENTS I WOULD SAY.
>> ARE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS UP?
>> ARE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS UP?
>> THE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS ARE
>> THE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS ARE
DEFINITELY UP.
DEFINITELY UP.
>> THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
>> THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
>> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
>> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE WITH
IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE WITH
THE ASSAULTS BEING UP, THE AGENT
THE ASSAULTS BEING UP, THE AGENT
IS IN THE POSITION WHERE HE HAS
IS IN THE POSITION WHERE HE HAS
TO DEFEND HIMSELF.
TO DEFEND HIMSELF.
AND THIS AGENCY AS AN AGENT YOU
AND THIS AGENCY AS AN AGENT YOU
DEFEND YOURSELF AND IT'S
DEFEND YOURSELF AND IT'S
SCRUTINIZED TREMENDOUSLY.
SCRUTINIZED TREMENDOUSLY.
ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE
ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE
POLITICAL PRESSURE SPEAKING
POLITICAL PRESSURE SPEAKING
ABOUT AMNESTY AND EVERYTHING
ABOUT AMNESTY AND EVERYTHING
ELSE.
ELSE.
THE AGENT HIMSELF IS PUT IN A
THE AGENT HIMSELF IS PUT IN A
SMALL BOX WHERE EVERYONE IS
SMALL BOX WHERE EVERYONE IS
LOOKING AT HIM WHEN ONE OF THE
LOOKING AT HIM WHEN ONE OF THE
INCIDENTS OCCURS.
INCIDENTS OCCURS.
>> WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE IN
>> WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE IN
WASHINGTON NEED TO KNOW ABOUT
WASHINGTON NEED TO KNOW ABOUT
WHAT'S HAPPENING ON GROUND ZERO,
WHAT'S HAPPENING ON GROUND ZERO,
THE BORDER OF ARIZONA AND
THE BORDER OF ARIZONA AND
MEXICO?
MEXICO?
>> I THINK THEY NEED TO COME OUT
>> I THINK THEY NEED TO COME OUT
AND TAKE A TRIP.
AND TAKE A TRIP.
I HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION FOR
I HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION FOR
EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN THAT
EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN THAT
WANTS TO KNOW HE CAN COME DOWN
WANTS TO KNOW HE CAN COME DOWN
AND I'LL PERSONALLY TAKE HIM
AND I'LL PERSONALLY TAKE HIM
DOWN TO THE AREA AND SHOW HIM
DOWN TO THE AREA AND SHOW HIM
THE BORDER AND SHOW HIM WHERE WE
THE BORDER AND SHOW HIM WHERE WE
ACTUALLY WORK.
ACTUALLY WORK.
THAT I COME DOWN HERE AND --
THAT I COME DOWN HERE AND --
THEY COME DOWN HERE AND THEY
THEY COME DOWN HERE AND THEY
SPEAK TO THE HIGHER UPS THAT
SPEAK TO THE HIGHER UPS THAT
THEY WORK WITH IN WASHINGTON.
THEY WORK WITH IN WASHINGTON.
SO I GUESS THEY ARRANGE THE
SO I GUESS THEY ARRANGE THE
TRIPS IN WASHINGTON, THEY COME
TRIPS IN WASHINGTON, THEY COME
DOWN HERE, THEY HAVE THEIR DOG
DOWN HERE, THEY HAVE THEIR DOG
AND PONY SHOW AT THE PORT OF
AND PONY SHOW AT THE PORT OF
ENTRY HALF A MILE EAST AND WEST
ENTRY HALF A MILE EAST AND WEST
AND THEY DON'T SHOW THEM THE
AND THEY DON'T SHOW THEM THE
REAL AREA.
REAL AREA.
COME OUT HERE, ACTUALLY LOOK AT
COME OUT HERE, ACTUALLY LOOK AT
IT.
IT.
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE
POLITICIANS HERE THAT ACTUALLY
POLITICIANS HERE THAT ACTUALLY
DO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE
DO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE
DANGER.
DANGER.
AND THEY HAVE SEEN IT.
AND THEY HAVE SEEN IT.
I HAVE TAKEN TRIPS WITH A COUPLE
I HAVE TAKEN TRIPS WITH A COUPLE
OF THEM AND SHOWN THEM.
OF THEM AND SHOWN THEM.
I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN EYE
I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN EYE
OPENER.
OPENER.
I CAN FIX ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS
I CAN FIX ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS
FROM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY.
FROM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY.
WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY THERE YOU
WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY THERE YOU
REALIZE WHAT THE ACTUAL MISSION
REALIZE WHAT THE ACTUAL MISSION
IS.
IS.
>> YOU WORK ALONG THE BORDER,
>> YOU WORK ALONG THE BORDER,
HOW WILL WE KNOW, HOW WILL YOU
HOW WILL WE KNOW, HOW WILL YOU
KNOW WHEN THE SYSTEM IS GETTING
KNOW WHEN THE SYSTEM IS GETTING
FIXED?
FIXED?
>> SEE, I THINK THAT'S AN ADDED
>> SEE, I THINK THAT'S AN ADDED
PLUS.
PLUS.
YOU MENTIONED I'M FROM MEXICO.
YOU MENTIONED I'M FROM MEXICO.
I'M FROM HERE.
I'M FROM HERE.
I WAS BORN IN MEXICO.
I WAS BORN IN MEXICO.
I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I'M A CITIZEN BECAUSE MY PARENTS
I'M A CITIZEN BECAUSE MY PARENTS
WERE CITIZENS.
WERE CITIZENS.
I WAS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY,
I WAS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY,
BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BIG
BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BIG
ISSUE.
ISSUE.
YOU WERE IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU
YOU WERE IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU
HAVE TO SHOW AN ALLEGIANCE TO
HAVE TO SHOW AN ALLEGIANCE TO
THE COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU WHAT
THE COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU WHAT
YOU HAVE.
YOU HAVE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT
OF THE PROBLEMS COME AS FAR AS
OF THE PROBLEMS COME AS FAR AS
THE AMNESTY ISSUES AND STUFF
THE AMNESTY ISSUES AND STUFF
LIKE THAT.
LIKE THAT.
THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME
THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME
TO THIS COUNTRY, YESTERDAY
TO THIS COUNTRY, YESTERDAY
THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO BREAK
THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO BREAK
THOSE TIES FROM THEIR COUNTRY OF
THOSE TIES FROM THEIR COUNTRY OF
ORIGIN.
ORIGIN.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR
AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR
PROBLEM.
PROBLEM.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE GRATITUDE
YOU HAVE TO HAVE GRATITUDE
TOWARD THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU'RE
TOWARD THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU'RE
AT.
AT.
YES, I WAS BORN THERE.
YES, I WAS BORN THERE.
BUT I -- BY ALL MEANS THIS IS
BUT I -- BY ALL MEANS THIS IS
WHERE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP.
WHERE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP.
THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT HAS
THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT HAS
GIVEN ME EVERYTHING AND I OWE MY
GIVEN ME EVERYTHING AND I OWE MY
ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES
ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA.
OF AMERICA.
>> ABOUT A MONTH AFTER HIS
>> ABOUT A MONTH AFTER HIS
CONFIRMATION, THE SECRETARY OF
CONFIRMATION, THE SECRETARY OF
HOMELAND SECURITY JEH JOHNSON
HOMELAND SECURITY JEH JOHNSON
VISITED ARIZONA.
VISITED ARIZONA.
WE HAVE THIS REPORT.
WE HAVE THIS REPORT.
>> WE'LL MAKE SOME BRIEF
>> WE'LL MAKE SOME BRIEF
REMARKS.
REMARKS.
>> SECRETARY OF HOMELAND
>> SECRETARY OF HOMELAND
SECURITY, JEH JOHNSON HELD A
SECURITY, JEH JOHNSON HELD A
BRIEF PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE
BRIEF PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE
BORDER PATROL HEADQUARTERS IN
BORDER PATROL HEADQUARTERS IN
TUCSON AFTER HIS FIRST VISIT TO
TUCSON AFTER HIS FIRST VISIT TO
ARIZONA THIS WEEK.
ARIZONA THIS WEEK.
HE SAYS HE PLANS TO MAKE THE
HE SAYS HE PLANS TO MAKE THE
SOUTHWESTERN BORDER A PRIORITY.
SOUTHWESTERN BORDER A PRIORITY.
>> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OVER THE
>> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OVER THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS DEVOTED
LAST SEVERAL YEARS DEVOTED
CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES TO BORDER
CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES TO BORDER
SECURITY IN THIS PART OF THE
SECURITY IN THIS PART OF THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
WHICH ARE BEING USED VERY
WHICH ARE BEING USED VERY
EFFECTIVELY.
EFFECTIVELY.
BUT THERE CONTINUES TO BE WORK
BUT THERE CONTINUES TO BE WORK
TO DO.
TO DO.
ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER.
ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER.
>> JOHNSON SPENT TIME AT THE
>> JOHNSON SPENT TIME AT THE
BORDER IN DOUGLAS AND TOURED THE
BORDER IN DOUGLAS AND TOURED THE
AREA WITH CONGRESSMAN RON
AREA WITH CONGRESSMAN RON
BARBER, TALKING TO BORDER MAYORS
BARBER, TALKING TO BORDER MAYORS
AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
>> I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR FROM
>> I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR FROM
THE RANCHERS, FROM LOCAL LAW
THE RANCHERS, FROM LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY ARE
ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY ARE
IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF
IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF
COOPERATION BETWEEN THEM AND THE
COOPERATION BETWEEN THEM AND THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HERE, BETWEEN
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HERE, BETWEEN
THEM AND OUR BORDER SECURITY
THEM AND OUR BORDER SECURITY
PROFESSIONALS HERE.
PROFESSIONALS HERE.
>> SOME THOSE RANCHERS LIVING
>> SOME THOSE RANCHERS LIVING
ALONG THE BORDER WITH MEXICO ARE
ALONG THE BORDER WITH MEXICO ARE
CONCERNED WITH MORE THAN THE LAW
CONCERNED WITH MORE THAN THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF BORDER
ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF BORDER
SECURITY.
SECURITY.
>> THE PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO
>> THE PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO
HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE
HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE
NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT A
NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT A
BORDER IS NOT SECURE HAS ON
BORDER IS NOT SECURE HAS ON
THEIR WORK, ON THEIR RANCHES.
THEIR WORK, ON THEIR RANCHES.
ON THEIR HOME, ON THEIR LAND.
ON THEIR HOME, ON THEIR LAND.
AND THE MAYOR OF DOUGLAS AND THE
AND THE MAYOR OF DOUGLAS AND THE
MAYOR OF SIERRA VISTA SPOKE
MAYOR OF SIERRA VISTA SPOKE
ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT
ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT
HAVING A PORT OF ENTRY THAT'S
HAVING A PORT OF ENTRY THAT'S
MODERATE.
MODERATE.
THAT IS PROPERLY STAFFED.
THAT IS PROPERLY STAFFED.
>> WHEN ASKED WHAT HE SAW AS THE
>> WHEN ASKED WHAT HE SAW AS THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THIS
BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THIS
REGION, JOHNSON DID NOT MENTION
REGION, JOHNSON DID NOT MENTION
SPECIFICS.
SPECIFICS.
>> THE CHALLENGES EVOLVE, THE
>> THE CHALLENGES EVOLVE, THE
CHALLENGES MIGRATE.
CHALLENGES MIGRATE.
SO WE'VE GOT TO BE -- WE'VE GOT
SO WE'VE GOT TO BE -- WE'VE GOT
TO BE VIGILANT.
TO BE VIGILANT.
WE'VE GOT TO BE AGILE IN
WE'VE GOT TO BE AGILE IN
RESPONSE TO THOSE CHALLENGES.
RESPONSE TO THOSE CHALLENGES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO
ENCOURAGE CBT PERSONNEL HERE TO
ENCOURAGE CBT PERSONNEL HERE TO
DO.
DO.
>> JOHNSON WILL ASK THE BORDER
>> JOHNSON WILL ASK THE BORDER
PATROL TO KEEP RURAL AREAS IN
PATROL TO KEEP RURAL AREAS IN
MIND.
MIND.
>> THE RANCHERS OPERATE FOR THE
>> THE RANCHERS OPERATE FOR THE
MOST PART IN THE REUSCHEL AREAS
MOST PART IN THE REUSCHEL AREAS
OF THE STATE.
OF THE STATE.
THEY MAKE THE VERY VALID POINT
THEY MAKE THE VERY VALID POINT
THAT IF WE PUT RESOURCES IN THE
THAT IF WE PUT RESOURCES IN THE
TOWNS THE BORDER SECURITY THREAT
TOWNS THE BORDER SECURITY THREAT
WILL MIGRATE TO THE MORE RURAL
WILL MIGRATE TO THE MORE RURAL
AREAS.
AREAS.
>> PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
>> PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
DEPORTED A RECORD HIGH NUMBER OF
DEPORTED A RECORD HIGH NUMBER OF
PEOPLE LAST YEAR.
PEOPLE LAST YEAR.
AND JOHNSON SAID PERHAPS THAT IS
AND JOHNSON SAID PERHAPS THAT IS
NOT THE BEST APPROACH.
NOT THE BEST APPROACH.
>> WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE
>> WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE
QUALITY OF OUR EFFORTS, NOT
QUALITY OF OUR EFFORTS, NOT
NECESSARILY THE QUANTITY BY
NECESSARILY THE QUANTITY BY
ITSELF.
ITSELF.
I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR
I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR
REMOVAL RESOURCES ON THREATS TO
REMOVAL RESOURCES ON THREATS TO
NATIONAL SECURITY, THREATS TO
NATIONAL SECURITY, THREATS TO
PUBLIC SAFETY, THREATS TO BORDER
PUBLIC SAFETY, THREATS TO BORDER
SECURITY WHICH CAN COME IN A
SECURITY WHICH CAN COME IN A
VARIETY OF FORMS.
VARIETY OF FORMS.
THAT COULD FOCUS ON LARGE
THAT COULD FOCUS ON LARGE
VOLUMES OF BOARDER CROSSINGS,
VOLUMES OF BOARDER CROSSINGS,
BUT NOT NECESSARILY.
BUT NOT NECESSARILY.
>> MOVING FORWARD, JOHNSON WANTS
>> MOVING FORWARD, JOHNSON WANTS
TO SEE AN INCREASE IN
TO SEE AN INCREASE IN
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
WHEN IT COMES TO USE OF FORCE BY
WHEN IT COMES TO USE OF FORCE BY
BORDER PATROL AGENTS.
BORDER PATROL AGENTS.
>> AND NOW THE STORY OF SANDRA
>> AND NOW THE STORY OF SANDRA
LOPEZ AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT
LOPEZ AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT
BROUGHT TO THE U.S. AS A CHILD.
BROUGHT TO THE U.S. AS A CHILD.
SANDRA WAS ON TRACK TO ENROLL IN
SANDRA WAS ON TRACK TO ENROLL IN
COLLEGE WHEN SHE WAS ARRESTED
COLLEGE WHEN SHE WAS ARRESTED
AND SPEND THREE YEARS IN AN
AND SPEND THREE YEARS IN AN
IMMIGRATION JAIL.
IMMIGRATION JAIL.
YOU WERES AFTER
YOU WERES AFTER
YOU WERE ARRESTED AT AGE 19.
YOU WERE ARRESTED AT AGE 19.
WHAT LED TO THAT ARREST?
WHAT LED TO THAT ARREST?
>> WHAT LED TO THE ARREST, I HAD
>> WHAT LED TO THE ARREST, I HAD
A GOOD FRIEND, HE ASKED ME TO
A GOOD FRIEND, HE ASKED ME TO
MAIL A BOX FOR HIM.
MAIL A BOX FOR HIM.
I JUST WENT AN TOOK IT TO THE
I JUST WENT AN TOOK IT TO THE
FEDEX AND MAILED IT.
FEDEX AND MAILED IT.
THE BOX DID CONTAIN NARCOTICS
THE BOX DID CONTAIN NARCOTICS
AND I WAS CHARGED WITH IT.
AND I WAS CHARGED WITH IT.
>> NOW, YOU WERE A RECENT
>> NOW, YOU WERE A RECENT
GRADUATE OF AMPHITHEATER HIGH
GRADUATE OF AMPHITHEATER HIGH
SCHOOL HERE IN TUCSON, SO YOU
SCHOOL HERE IN TUCSON, SO YOU
DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREVIOUS RUN-INS
DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREVIOUS RUN-INS
WITH THE LAW BEFORE THEN?
WITH THE LAW BEFORE THEN?
>> NO, MA'AM.
>> NO, MA'AM.
>> TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
>> TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
NEXT.
NEXT.
>> AFTER THAT, I FOUND MYSELF IN
>> AFTER THAT, I FOUND MYSELF IN
THE CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS OF
THE CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS OF
HAVING MAILED A BOX WITH
HAVING MAILED A BOX WITH
NARCOTICS.
NARCOTICS.
AND I DID -- I TOOK THE WRONG
AND I DID -- I TOOK THE WRONG
CHOICE.
CHOICE.
I WAS CHOOSING A FRIEND AND
I WAS CHOOSING A FRIEND AND
DOING HIM A FAVOR.
DOING HIM A FAVOR.
WHILE I WAS IN THE COUNTY, I WAS
WHILE I WAS IN THE COUNTY, I WAS
THERE FOR SIX MONTHS WHILE I WAS
THERE FOR SIX MONTHS WHILE I WAS
CONVICTED OF THE CRIME.
CONVICTED OF THE CRIME.
AFTER THAT I WAS TAKEN BY
AFTER THAT I WAS TAKEN BY
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND
TAKEN TO ELOY FACILITY.
TAKEN TO ELOY FACILITY.
>> DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE
>> DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE
BORN IN MEXICO AND THAT YOU DID
BORN IN MEXICO AND THAT YOU DID
NOT HAVE STATUS HERE IN THE
NOT HAVE STATUS HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES?
UNITED STATES?
>> YES, I DID.
>> YES, I DID.
>> YOU DID.
>> YOU DID.
YOU WERE EVENTUALLY TRANSPORTED
YOU WERE EVENTUALLY TRANSPORTED
TO NOGALES AND YOU WERE
TO NOGALES AND YOU WERE
DEPORTED.
DEPORTED.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT HAPPENED IN NOGALES IN
>> WHAT HAPPENED IN NOGALES IN
SONORA?
SONORA?
>> WHEN I GOT DROPPED OFF BY THE
>> WHEN I GOT DROPPED OFF BY THE
U.S. ENFORCEMENT, I DIDN'T KNOW
U.S. ENFORCEMENT, I DIDN'T KNOW
WHERE TO GO.
WHERE TO GO.
I HAD NEVER BEEN THERE.
I HAD NEVER BEEN THERE.
ME AND MY -- MY BROTHMOTHER BRO
ME AND MY -- MY BROTHMOTHER BRO
ME HERE AS A CHILD.
ME HERE AS A CHILD.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
THE IMMIGRATION, YOU KNOW, THAT
THE IMMIGRATION, YOU KNOW, THAT
MEXICAN OFFICIALS WOULD HELP ME
MEXICAN OFFICIALS WOULD HELP ME
AND HELP ME FIND A SHELTER.
AND HELP ME FIND A SHELTER.
I DID TRY TO FIND HELP, BUT IT
I DID TRY TO FIND HELP, BUT IT
DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY I
DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY I
THOUGHT IT WOULD.
THOUGHT IT WOULD.
I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS IN
I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS IN
MEXICO.
MEXICO.
I ROAMED THE STREETS AND TRIED
I ROAMED THE STREETS AND TRIED
TO LOOK FOR HELP.
TO LOOK FOR HELP.
THERE WAS A GROUP OF WOMEN THAT
THERE WAS A GROUP OF WOMEN THAT
WAS TRYING TO LURE ME INTO
WAS TRYING TO LURE ME INTO
PROSTITUTION, JUST WENT AWAY
PROSTITUTION, JUST WENT AWAY
AGAIN.
AGAIN.
I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HELP.
I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HELP.
I -- I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS
I -- I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS
BECAUSE I SAW NOBODY WAS THERE.
BECAUSE I SAW NOBODY WAS THERE.
I FELT SAFE, HIDDEN.
I FELT SAFE, HIDDEN.
AND I MEAN, IT WAS THE WORST
AND I MEAN, IT WAS THE WORST
EXPERIENCE I EVER HAD, HONESTLY.
EXPERIENCE I EVER HAD, HONESTLY.
BEFORE THE LAST DAY -- BEFORE I
BEFORE THE LAST DAY -- BEFORE I
CAME FOR HELP TO THE U.S.
CAME FOR HELP TO THE U.S.
ENFORCEMENT, I WAS WALKING AND
ENFORCEMENT, I WAS WALKING AND
LOOKING FOR HELP.
LOOKING FOR HELP.
THERE WAS A MAN THAT HE GRABBED
THERE WAS A MAN THAT HE GRABBED
MY HAND AND HE HAD A BLADE IN
MY HAND AND HE HAD A BLADE IN
HIS HAND.
HIS HAND.
HE TRIED TO ASSAULT ME AND I
HE TRIED TO ASSAULT ME AND I
SWUNG MY HAND AND I RAN UP THE
SWUNG MY HAND AND I RAN UP THE
LANE OF THE TRAFFIC AND I SAW
LANE OF THE TRAFFIC AND I SAW
THE U.S. ENFORCEMENT AND ASKED
THE U.S. ENFORCEMENT AND ASKED
FOR HELP.
FOR HELP.
>> AND THEY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT
>> AND THEY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT
YOU TO THE U.S.
YOU TO THE U.S.
YOU WERE CHARGED FOR TRYING TO
YOU WERE CHARGED FOR TRYING TO
RE-ENTER THE COUNTRY.
RE-ENTER THE COUNTRY.
THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE TRANSPORTED
THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE TRANSPORTED
TO ELOY.
TO ELOY.
>> YES.
>> YES.
WELL, THE BAD PART IS I WAS --
WELL, THE BAD PART IS I WAS --
FIRST, I WAS TRANSFERRED TO
FIRST, I WAS TRANSFERRED TO
TORRANCE FACILITY.
TORRANCE FACILITY.
I WAS CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL
I WAS CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL
RE-ENTRY.
RE-ENTRY.
BUT I THINK THEY MADE A BIG
BUT I THINK THEY MADE A BIG
MISTAKE BECAUSE I WAS ASKING FOR
MISTAKE BECAUSE I WAS ASKING FOR
HELP, THEY TOLD ME I'D GET THE
HELP, THEY TOLD ME I'D GET THE
HELP.
HELP.
AT THE TIME I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
AT THE TIME I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
ASYLUM AND I ASKED FOR HELP AND
ASYLUM AND I ASKED FOR HELP AND
THEY NEVER GAVE ME THE HELP I
THEY NEVER GAVE ME THE HELP I
NEEDED AND I WAS IN THE --
NEEDED AND I WAS IN THE --
INCARCERATED FOR FIVE MONTHS.
INCARCERATED FOR FIVE MONTHS.
>> FIVE MONTHS IN FLORENCE.
>> FIVE MONTHS IN FLORENCE.
>> JUST FOR ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY
>> JUST FOR ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY
WHEN I ASKED FOR HELP.
WHEN I ASKED FOR HELP.
>> THEN ANOTHER 2 1/2 IN ELOY.
>> THEN ANOTHER 2 1/2 IN ELOY.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YOU LIVED SOME OF THE BETTER
>> YOU LIVED SOME OF THE BETTER
PART OF YOUR YEARS AS A YOUNG
PART OF YOUR YEARS AS A YOUNG
WOMAN IN PRISON.
WOMAN IN PRISON.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> IT WAS REALLY HARD.
>> IT WAS REALLY HARD.
IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW?
IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW?
JUST TO BE INCARCERATED WITH A
JUST TO BE INCARCERATED WITH A
LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HONESTLY
LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HONESTLY
THERE WAS MORE ILLEGALS THAN,
THERE WAS MORE ILLEGALS THAN,
YOU KNOW, REALLY CRIMINALS.
YOU KNOW, REALLY CRIMINALS.
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD
KEEP US THAT LONG INCARCERATED
KEEP US THAT LONG INCARCERATED
JUST FOR COMING BACK.
JUST FOR COMING BACK.
YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PEOPLE
YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PEOPLE
THAT COME BACK LIKE ME IS FOR
THAT COME BACK LIKE ME IS FOR
HELP.
HELP.
NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO.
NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO.
YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW?
WE NEEDED HELP.
WE NEEDED HELP.
AND THE U.S. -- THEY'RE GOOD AT
AND THE U.S. -- THEY'RE GOOD AT
IT.
IT.
HELPING US.
HELPING US.
BUT RIGHT THERE, LATELY, I THINK
BUT RIGHT THERE, LATELY, I THINK
THEY HAVE BEEN KIND OF MESSING
THEY HAVE BEEN KIND OF MESSING
UP BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HELPED
UP BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HELPED
US AND THEY JUST DEPORT US
US AND THEY JUST DEPORT US
AGAIN.
AGAIN.
TO BE INCARCERATED IT'S REALLY
TO BE INCARCERATED IT'S REALLY
HARD.
HARD.
YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS.
YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS.
THEY HAVE YOU DO THINGS YOU
THEY HAVE YOU DO THINGS YOU
DON'T WANT TO DO.
DON'T WANT TO DO.
YOU GET YELLED AT, YOU GET NASTY
YOU GET YELLED AT, YOU GET NASTY
FOOD, LOCKDOWN.
FOOD, LOCKDOWN.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEPRESSED.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEPRESSED.
YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
REALLY MESS WITH YOUR MIND.
REALLY MESS WITH YOUR MIND.
IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO BE IN
IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO BE IN
THERE, HONESTLY.
THERE, HONESTLY.
>> THREE YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IN A
>> THREE YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IN A
FEDERAL FACILITY.
FEDERAL FACILITY.
YOU WERE RELEASED IN NOVEMBER,
YOU WERE RELEASED IN NOVEMBER,
RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.
RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.
>> YES.
>> YES.
THANK GOD.
THANK GOD.
>> WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE
>> WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE
LIKE?
LIKE?
STEPPING OUT INTO FREE EARTH AND
STEPPING OUT INTO FREE EARTH AND
BEING WITH YOUR FAMILY, YOUR
BEING WITH YOUR FAMILY, YOUR
MOM, YOUR DAD, YOUR BROTHERS AND
MOM, YOUR DAD, YOUR BROTHERS AND
SISTERS.
SISTERS.
>> IT WAS A BLESSING, YOU KNOW?
>> IT WAS A BLESSING, YOU KNOW?
I STILL -- I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN
I STILL -- I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN
OUT FOR TWO MONTHS, IT'S HARD TO
OUT FOR TWO MONTHS, IT'S HARD TO
BELIEVE IT.
BELIEVE IT.
IT'S THE BEST THING.
IT'S THE BEST THING.
I'M STILL STRUGGLING, BUT IT'S A
I'M STILL STRUGGLING, BUT IT'S A
BLESSING BECAUSE I'M WITH MY
BLESSING BECAUSE I'M WITH MY
FAMILY AGAIN.
FAMILY AGAIN.
AND I HAVE MY BROTHERS AND
AND I HAVE MY BROTHERS AND
SISTERS.
SISTERS.
I HAVE MY UNCLE THAT'S HELPING
I HAVE MY UNCLE THAT'S HELPING
ME OUT AND PROVIDING FOR ME.
ME OUT AND PROVIDING FOR ME.
>> FOR SOME PEOPLE GETTING OUT
>> FOR SOME PEOPLE GETTING OUT
OF A PRISON FACILITY IS A HUGE
OF A PRISON FACILITY IS A HUGE
TRANSITION.
TRANSITION.
BUT YOU ENROLLED AS A STUDENT AT
BUT YOU ENROLLED AS A STUDENT AT
MARICOPA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN
MARICOPA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN
PHOENIX AND YOU'RE NOW
PHOENIX AND YOU'RE NOW
CONSIDERED A DREAMER.
CONSIDERED A DREAMER.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT
>> WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT
YOUR DEPORTATION.
YOUR DEPORTATION.
TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS
TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS
ARE FOR YOU.
ARE FOR YOU.
>> WELL, THE NEXT STEP FOR ME,
>> WELL, THE NEXT STEP FOR ME,
IT WAS HARD TO GET INTO COLLEGE,
IT WAS HARD TO GET INTO COLLEGE,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
ANY -- I CAN'T APPLY AND
ANY -- I CAN'T APPLY AND
QUALIFY, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME.
QUALIFY, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME.
BUT THANK GOD I MADE IT.
BUT THANK GOD I MADE IT.
I'M ENROLLED NOW.
I'M ENROLLED NOW.
I START COLLEGE NEXT WEEK.
I START COLLEGE NEXT WEEK.
I'M HAPPY, YOU KNOW?
I'M HAPPY, YOU KNOW?
I'M A FIGHTER.
I'M A FIGHTER.
I'M HERE TO KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL
I'M HERE TO KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL
IT'S OVER WITH.
IT'S OVER WITH.
AND I'M ENROLLED IN COLLEGE NOW
AND I'M ENROLLED IN COLLEGE NOW
FINALLY.
FINALLY.
>> YOU'RE A FIGHTER.
>> YOU'RE A FIGHTER.
YOU HAVE PLANS FOR A FUTURE.
YOU HAVE PLANS FOR A FUTURE.
WHAT HAS GIVEN YOU THAT STRENGTH
WHAT HAS GIVEN YOU THAT STRENGTH
TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD?
TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD?
>> GOD FIRST OF ALL.
>> GOD FIRST OF ALL.
GOD HAS GIVEN ME THAT STRENGTH.
GOD HAS GIVEN ME THAT STRENGTH.
JUST ME WANTING TO DO WHAT I
JUST ME WANTING TO DO WHAT I
WANT TO DO AND PURSUING MY
WANT TO DO AND PURSUING MY
CAREER IN BEING A PSYCHOLOGIST
CAREER IN BEING A PSYCHOLOGIST
OR A NURSE.
OR A NURSE.
>> YOU'RE WELL EDUCATED ON THE
>> YOU'RE WELL EDUCATED ON THE
ISSUE.
ISSUE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO
PERHAPS BLAME YOUR PARENTS FOR
PERHAPS BLAME YOUR PARENTS FOR
BRINGING YOU HERE AND LIVING
BRINGING YOU HERE AND LIVING
YOUR LIFE HERE.
YOUR LIFE HERE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE
WHO ARE WATCHING THIS AND
WHO ARE WATCHING THIS AND
WONDERING WHAT LED YOUR PARENTS
WONDERING WHAT LED YOUR PARENTS
TO DO THIS?
TO DO THIS?
WHAT GIVES YOU THE DRIVE TO KEEP
WHAT GIVES YOU THE DRIVE TO KEEP
GOING AND TO FIGHT FOR RESIDENCY
GOING AND TO FIGHT FOR RESIDENCY
FOR AN EDUCATION?
FOR AN EDUCATION?
>> I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD
>> I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD
BLAME THE PARENTS.
BLAME THE PARENTS.
I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON
I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON
EVERYBODY'S SITUATION AND WHAT
EVERYBODY'S SITUATION AND WHAT
THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AT THE
THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AT THE
TIME.
TIME.
YES, PEOPLE TRY TO FIND A BETTER
YES, PEOPLE TRY TO FIND A BETTER
FUTURE FOR THEIR KIDS.
FUTURE FOR THEIR KIDS.
IN THEIR BEST INTEREST.
IN THEIR BEST INTEREST.
BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE
BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE
HELP FOR THE PARENTS.
HELP FOR THE PARENTS.
NOT JUST PUTTING THEM DOWN LIKE
NOT JUST PUTTING THEM DOWN LIKE
OH, IT'S YOUR PARENT'S FAULT.
OH, IT'S YOUR PARENT'S FAULT.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE
INCLUDED -- THERE'S A LOT OF
INCLUDED -- THERE'S A LOT OF
FAMILIES LIKE MINE, I HAVE A
FAMILIES LIKE MINE, I HAVE A
MIXED STATUS FAMILY.
MIXED STATUS FAMILY.
I'M ILLEGAL, MY MOTHER IS
I'M ILLEGAL, MY MOTHER IS
ILLEGAL, I MEAN, TO TEAR APART
ILLEGAL, I MEAN, TO TEAR APART
THE FAMILY IT'S NOT FAIR.
THE FAMILY IT'S NOT FAIR.
I KNOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF
I KNOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF
FAMILIES LIKE THAT.
FAMILIES LIKE THAT.
>> SANDRA, YOU PLAN TO KEEP ON
>> SANDRA, YOU PLAN TO KEEP ON
FIGHTING REGARDLESS OF WHAT
FIGHTING REGARDLESS OF WHAT
HAPPENS.
HAPPENS.
>> I'LL KEEP FIGHTING, YES.
>> I'LL KEEP FIGHTING, YES.
>> SANDRA LOPEZ, THANK YOU FOR
>> SANDRA LOPEZ, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME.
YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> SANDRA IS PURSUING HER
>> SANDRA IS PURSUING HER
EDUCATION UNDER PRESIDENT
EDUCATION UNDER PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S DEFERRED DEPORTATION
OBAMA'S DEFERRED DEPORTATION
PROGRAM.
PROGRAM.
>>> NOW THE STORY OF ANOTHER
>>> NOW THE STORY OF ANOTHER
DREAMER, JESSICA GARCIA, BROUGHT
DREAMER, JESSICA GARCIA, BROUGHT
TO THE U.S. AT THE AGE OF 13.
TO THE U.S. AT THE AGE OF 13.
SHE'S CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT PIMA
SHE'S CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT PIMA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
>> ON THE FIRST FEW YEARS I
>> ON THE FIRST FEW YEARS I
WANTED TO GO BACK TO MEXICO,
WANTED TO GO BACK TO MEXICO,
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLAN FOR
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLAN FOR
EVERYONE.
EVERYONE.
JUST COME HERE AND LEARN THE
JUST COME HERE AND LEARN THE
ENGLISH, FINISH YOUR EDUCATION
ENGLISH, FINISH YOUR EDUCATION
AND THEN GO BACK.
AND THEN GO BACK.
THEN I REALIZED I WANTED TO
THEN I REALIZED I WANTED TO
CONTINUE MY EDUCATION, I WANTED
CONTINUE MY EDUCATION, I WANTED
TO DO SOMETHING HERE.
TO DO SOMETHING HERE.
MEXICO IT'S NOT ALWAYS A SAFE
MEXICO IT'S NOT ALWAYS A SAFE
PLACE.
PLACE.
MORE WHEN YOU'RE A WOMAN AND
MORE WHEN YOU'RE A WOMAN AND
TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION, IT'S
TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION, IT'S
STILL -- SO I KNEW I WASN'T
STILL -- SO I KNEW I WASN'T
GOING -- IT WASN'T GOING TO BE
GOING -- IT WASN'T GOING TO BE
THAT EASY SO I DECIDED TO STAY
THAT EASY SO I DECIDED TO STAY
HERE.
HERE.
>> HOW IMPORTANT IS EDUCATION TO
>> HOW IMPORTANT IS EDUCATION TO
YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY TO WATCH
YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY TO WATCH
YOU GET YOUR EDUCATION?
YOU GET YOUR EDUCATION?
>> THAT WAS THE FIRST THING
>> THAT WAS THE FIRST THING
THAT -- ONLY GOAL WAS LIKE TO
THAT -- ONLY GOAL WAS LIKE TO
GET AN EDUCATION.
GET AN EDUCATION.
LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE CAN WAIT.
LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE CAN WAIT.
LIKE WE JUST -- THEY JUST WANT
LIKE WE JUST -- THEY JUST WANT
US TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
US TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND GET AN EDUCATION INSPIRED
AND GET AN EDUCATION INSPIRED
IT.
IT.
>> JESSICA, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
>> JESSICA, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
THERE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THE
THERE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THE
REASONS WHY YOUR PARENTS BROUGHT
REASONS WHY YOUR PARENTS BROUGHT
YOU TO THE U.S. AT SUCH A YOUNG
YOU TO THE U.S. AT SUCH A YOUNG
AGE.
AGE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE?
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE?
>> I CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY MOM,
>> I CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY MOM,
BUT I CAN SEE FROM HER ACTIONS
BUT I CAN SEE FROM HER ACTIONS
SHE WANTED US TO HAVE A BETTER
SHE WANTED US TO HAVE A BETTER
LIVING.
LIVING.
IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT'S GOING
IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT'S GOING
ON IN MEXICO WITH THE NARCOS AND
ON IN MEXICO WITH THE NARCOS AND
THE DRUG CARTELS AND ALL THAT.
THE DRUG CARTELS AND ALL THAT.
AND AS A WOMAN, I REALLY -- I
AND AS A WOMAN, I REALLY -- I
DON'T WANT YOU TO BE THERE.
DON'T WANT YOU TO BE THERE.
AND OVER HERE, AS WELL, IT'S NOT
AND OVER HERE, AS WELL, IT'S NOT
THE SAME OPPORTUNITY IT HERE
THE SAME OPPORTUNITY IT HERE
THAN HAVING IT IN MEXICO.
THAN HAVING IT IN MEXICO.
MEXICO, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN BE
MEXICO, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN BE
GOOD IN EVERYTHING AND YOU'LL
GOOD IN EVERYTHING AND YOU'LL
HAVE EVERYTHING, EITHER THERE'S
HAVE EVERYTHING, EITHER THERE'S
A SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT
A SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT
WITH.
WITH.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S A SYSTEM YOU
AND SOMETIMES IT'S A SYSTEM YOU
DON'T WANT TO BE AT.
DON'T WANT TO BE AT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I
DECIDED TO STAY.
DECIDED TO STAY.
AND I'M PROUD SHE BROUGHT US IN.
AND I'M PROUD SHE BROUGHT US IN.
>> WHAT IS YOUR IMMIGRATION
>> WHAT IS YOUR IMMIGRATION
STATUS RIGHT NOW?
STATUS RIGHT NOW?
>> AS OF NOW, I HAVE DEFERRED.
>> AS OF NOW, I HAVE DEFERRED.
>> WHAT DOES THE GOVERNMENT NEED
>> WHAT DOES THE GOVERNMENT NEED
TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE -- STUDENTS
TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE -- STUDENTS
LIKE YOU?
LIKE YOU?
>> IT CAN BE UP TO ANY STATE,
>> IT CAN BE UP TO ANY STATE,
WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT.
WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT.
I CAN SAY SEE THAT'S NOT A
I CAN SAY SEE THAT'S NOT A
SOLUTION.
SOLUTION.
IT'S NOT THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR
IT'S NOT THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR
IT, BUT IT ONLY GOES FOR TWO
IT, BUT IT ONLY GOES FOR TWO
YEARS AND WE KNOW IN ARIZONA
YEARS AND WE KNOW IN ARIZONA
IT'S NOT GOOD.
IT'S NOT GOOD.
ONLY TO WORK.
ONLY TO WORK.
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF LIMITS
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF LIMITS
AND ONE OF THEM IS EDUCATION AND
AND ONE OF THEM IS EDUCATION AND
THE OTHER ONE IS THE RIGHT TO
THE OTHER ONE IS THE RIGHT TO
DRIVE OR HAVE AN I.D.
DRIVE OR HAVE AN I.D.
>> WHAT DO YOU WANT THE
>> WHAT DO YOU WANT THE
GOVERNMENT TO KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE
GOVERNMENT TO KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE
LIKE YOU, THE DREAMERS LIKE YOU?
LIKE YOU, THE DREAMERS LIKE YOU?
>> WE JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR
>> WE JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR
FAMILIES TOGETHER.
FAMILIES TOGETHER.
>> YOU SAID YOUR FATHER IS IN
>> YOU SAID YOUR FATHER IS IN
MEXICO.
MEXICO.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> IS THAT HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY,
>> IS THAT HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY,
KNOWING HE'S OVER THERE AND
KNOWING HE'S OVER THERE AND
YOU'RE ALL HERE?
YOU'RE ALL HERE?
>> YES.
>> YES.
SO WE DON'T GET TO SEE HIM EVERY
SO WE DON'T GET TO SEE HIM EVERY
DAY.
DAY.
WE DON'T CALL HIM, LIKE WE'RE
WE DON'T CALL HIM, LIKE WE'RE
NOT ON THE PHONE EVERY SINGLE
NOT ON THE PHONE EVERY SINGLE
DAY, EVERY SINGLE HOUR.
DAY, EVERY SINGLE HOUR.
SO IN THAT SENSE WE DON'T HAVE
SO IN THAT SENSE WE DON'T HAVE
HIM NEXT TO US.
HIM NEXT TO US.
>> DO YOU WISH THINGS WERE
>> DO YOU WISH THINGS WERE
DIFFERENT?
DIFFERENT?
>> YES.
>> YES.
IT WOULD BE SO BETTER IF WE WERE
IT WOULD BE SO BETTER IF WE WERE
ABLE TO GO AND SEE HIM AND NOT
ABLE TO GO AND SEE HIM AND NOT
TAKE HIM COMING HERE AND SEE --
TAKE HIM COMING HERE AND SEE --
THERE MUST BE A PROBLEM WHEN HE
THERE MUST BE A PROBLEM WHEN HE
CROSSES THE LINES.
CROSSES THE LINES.
HE CAN COME IN, BUT SOMETIMES
HE CAN COME IN, BUT SOMETIMES
HE'S LIKE WHO ARE YOU VISITING
HE'S LIKE WHO ARE YOU VISITING
OVER THERE AND THE QUESTIONS
OVER THERE AND THE QUESTIONS
THAT CAN LEAD TO FINDING OUT HIS
THAT CAN LEAD TO FINDING OUT HIS
FAMILY IS LIVING IN THE U.S.
FAMILY IS LIVING IN THE U.S.
>> WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS?
>> WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS?
>> TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION.
>> TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION.
I'M TRYING TO GET INTO ANOTHER
I'M TRYING TO GET INTO ANOTHER
COLLEGE.
COLLEGE.
AND THEN CONTINUE THAT.
AND THEN CONTINUE THAT.
>> WHAT ARE YOUR LONG-TERM
>> WHAT ARE YOUR LONG-TERM
GOALS?
GOALS?
DO YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.?
DO YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.?
DO YOU WANT TO RETURN TO MEXICO?
DO YOU WANT TO RETURN TO MEXICO?
>> I WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.
>> I WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.
PROBABLY OWN MY OWN BUSINESS.
PROBABLY OWN MY OWN BUSINESS.
WORK FOR A NONPROFIT, TO
WORK FOR A NONPROFIT, TO
CONTINUE WITH THE NONPROFITS AND
CONTINUE WITH THE NONPROFITS AND
ALSO LOCAL BUSINESSES.
ALSO LOCAL BUSINESSES.
>> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
>> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
IMMIGRATION BECAUSE IT WILL BE
IMMIGRATION BECAUSE IT WILL BE
THE SUBJECT OF NEXT WEEK'S
THE SUBJECT OF NEXT WEEK'S
INDEPENDENT LENS, ENTITLED STATE
INDEPENDENT LENS, ENTITLED STATE
OF ARIZONA.
OF ARIZONA.
HERE'S A PREVIEW OF NEXT WEEK'S
HERE'S A PREVIEW OF NEXT WEEK'S
EPISODE.
EPISODE.
>> GOING TO ALLOW EVERY POLICE
>> GOING TO ALLOW EVERY POLICE
AGENCY IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA
AGENCY IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA
TO DO WHAT SHERIFF ARPAIO HAS
TO DO WHAT SHERIFF ARPAIO HAS
BEEN DOING AND THAT'S
BEEN DOING AND THAT'S
TERRORIZING AND SEPARATING OUR
TERRORIZING AND SEPARATING OUR
COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY.
>> WE GREW UP LOVING THIS
>> WE GREW UP LOVING THIS
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
LOVING EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
LOVING EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
WE HAVE GOT 1 -- I THINK THE
WE HAVE GOT 1 -- I THINK THE
NUMBER IS UP TO 170
NUMBER IS UP TO 170
NATIONALITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
NATIONALITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED THAT ARE COMING
IDENTIFIED THAT ARE COMING
ACROSS THAT BORDER.
ACROSS THAT BORDER.
SOME COUNTRIES OF INTEREST,
SOME COUNTRIES OF INTEREST,
MEANING THEY HARBOR, AID, ABET
MEANING THEY HARBOR, AID, ABET
OR SOMEHOW ARE INVOLVED IN
OR SOMEHOW ARE INVOLVED IN
TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S
TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S
PRETTY DANGEROUS.
PRETTY DANGEROUS.
THE FEDS COULDN'T ENFORCE THIS
THE FEDS COULDN'T ENFORCE THIS
BY THEMSELVES.
BY THEMSELVES.
YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE THE POLICE
YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE THE POLICE
OFFICERS A TRAFFIC STOP AT A
OFFICERS A TRAFFIC STOP AT A
TIME.
TIME.
>> THAT AIRS HERE ON PBS 6 ON
>> THAT AIRS HERE ON PBS 6 ON
MONDAY NIGHT.
MONDAY NIGHT.
>>> NOW TO THE WEEKLY SESSION ON
>>> NOW TO THE WEEKLY SESSION ON
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE
LEGISLATURE WITH CHRISTOPHER
LEGISLATURE WITH CHRISTOPHER
CONOVER, THIS WEEK, LET'S START
CONOVER, THIS WEEK, LET'S START
OFF WITH THE BUDGET WHICH WE
OFF WITH THE BUDGET WHICH WE
ENDED OFF ON LAST WEEK.
ENDED OFF ON LAST WEEK.
WHAT'S THE LATEST THERE?
WHAT'S THE LATEST THERE?
>> WELL, LAST WEEK, GOVERNOR
>> WELL, LAST WEEK, GOVERNOR
BREWER HAD JUST RELEASED HER
BREWER HAD JUST RELEASED HER
BUDGET SO WE GOT THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET SO WE GOT THE GOVERNOR'S
PLAN OR WHAT SHE'D LIKE THE
PLAN OR WHAT SHE'D LIKE THE
LEGISLATURE TO DO.
LEGISLATURE TO DO.
IT INCLUDES SOME LONG-TERM LOOKS
IT INCLUDES SOME LONG-TERM LOOKS
AND REVENUE ESTIMATES AND THINGS
AND REVENUE ESTIMATES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT FOR THE NEXT FEW
LIKE THAT FOR THE NEXT FEW
FISCAL YEARS.
FISCAL YEARS.
THIS WEEK, THE LEGISLATURE AFTER
THIS WEEK, THE LEGISLATURE AFTER
TAKING MONDAY OFF FOR THE MARTIN
TAKING MONDAY OFF FOR THE MARTIN
LUTHER KING HOLIDAY BEGAN THEIR
LUTHER KING HOLIDAY BEGAN THEIR
WEEK WITH A JOINT MEETING OF THE
WEEK WITH A JOINT MEETING OF THE
TWO BUDGET COMMITTEES, HOUSE AND
TWO BUDGET COMMITTEES, HOUSE AND
SENATE, AND THEY HEARD IN THE
SENATE, AND THEY HEARD IN THE
JOINT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET
JOINT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET
COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE.
BASICALLY, THEIR ACCOUNTANTS AN
BASICALLY, THEIR ACCOUNTANTS AN
BOOKKEEPERS ON THE JLBC'S
BOOKKEEPERS ON THE JLBC'S
ESTIMATE FOR WHAT THE FINANCIAL
ESTIMATE FOR WHAT THE FINANCIAL
PICTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE
PICTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE
COMING FEW YEARS.
COMING FEW YEARS.
AND IT SETS UP OUR FIRST BIG
AND IT SETS UP OUR FIRST BIG
DEBATE OF THE LEGISLATIVE
DEBATE OF THE LEGISLATIVE
SESSION BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE
SESSION BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE
AND THE GOVERNOR.
AND THE GOVERNOR.
THE GOVERNOR AND HER BUDGET
THE GOVERNOR AND HER BUDGET
PROJECTS OUT THREE YEARS TO
PROJECTS OUT THREE YEARS TO
FISCAL 2017.
FISCAL 2017.
AND SHE'S PROJECTING ABOUT
AND SHE'S PROJECTING ABOUT
$400 MILLION IN SURPLUS IN 2017.
$400 MILLION IN SURPLUS IN 2017.
THE JLBC CAME BACK AND PROJECTED
THE JLBC CAME BACK AND PROJECTED
OUT THREE YEARS AND SAID THIS
OUT THREE YEARS AND SAID THIS
COMING FISCAL YEAR WE'RE FINE.
COMING FISCAL YEAR WE'RE FINE.
NEXT YEAR, ZERO -- IT IT'S A DE
NEXT YEAR, ZERO -- IT IT'S A DE
BALANCED BUDGET AND FOR 2017 A
BALANCED BUDGET AND FOR 2017 A
$600 MILLION SHORT FALL.
$600 MILLION SHORT FALL.
>> PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAP.
>> PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAP.
WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?
WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?
>> THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP.
>> THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP.
THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE PUT
THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE PUT
TOGETHER IS A LITTLE BIT OF
TOGETHER IS A LITTLE BIT OF
GUESS WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE
GUESS WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE
FORECASTING WHAT WILL HAPPEN
FORECASTING WHAT WILL HAPPEN
OVER THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS.
OVER THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS.
THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN USES SOME
THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN USES SOME
INCREASES IN REVENUE, TAX
INCREASES IN REVENUE, TAX
COLLECTIONS.
COLLECTIONS.
SHE IS NOT CALLING FOR AN
SHE IS NOT CALLING FOR AN
INCREASE IN TAXES BUT AS THE
INCREASE IN TAXES BUT AS THE
ECONOMY IMPROVES, MORE TAXES ARE
ECONOMY IMPROVES, MORE TAXES ARE
GETTING PAID.
GETTING PAID.
SHE ALSO HAS LESS SPENDING
SHE ALSO HAS LESS SPENDING
PROJECTED OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW
PROJECTED OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS THAN THE JLBC DOES.
YEARS THAN THE JLBC DOES.
THE JLBC BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER
THE JLBC BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER
BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS
BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS
AND IT'S A COMPILATION INCLUDING
AND IT'S A COMPILATION INCLUDING
SOME PROFESSORS AT THE
SOME PROFESSORS AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.
SO LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF
SO LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF
NUMBERS.
NUMBERS.
>> ARE WE LIKELY TO SEE THE
>> ARE WE LIKELY TO SEE THE
LEGISLATURE TAKE ANY MONEY FROM
LEGISLATURE TAKE ANY MONEY FROM
THE AREAS THAT THE GOVERNOR
THE AREAS THAT THE GOVERNOR
WANTED TO PUMP MORE MONEY INTO,
WANTED TO PUMP MORE MONEY INTO,
FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT USED TO BE
FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT USED TO BE
CPS?
CPS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS THE INTERESTING DEBATE.
THIS IS THE INTERESTING DEBATE.
ONCE THEY SETTLE ON HOW MUCH
ONCE THEY SETTLE ON HOW MUCH
MONEY THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH,
MONEY THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH,
THEY'LL BEGIN CRAFTING THE
THEY'LL BEGIN CRAFTING THE
BUDGET.
BUDGET.
THE LEGISLATURE IS UNDER NO
THE LEGISLATURE IS UNDER NO
OBLIGATION TO DO WHAT THE
OBLIGATION TO DO WHAT THE
GOVERNOR WANTS AND THERE'S
GOVERNOR WANTS AND THERE'S
PLENTY OF HISTORIC PRECEDENT FOR
PLENTY OF HISTORIC PRECEDENT FOR
A LEGISLATURE DOING EXACTLY WHAT
A LEGISLATURE DOING EXACTLY WHAT
THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T WANT.
THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T WANT.
IT'S UP TO THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN
IT'S UP TO THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN
IT AND THAT'S WHEN THE REAL
IT AND THAT'S WHEN THE REAL
NEGOTIATION BEGINS BETWEEN THE
NEGOTIATION BEGINS BETWEEN THE
TWO BRANCHS OF GOVERNMENT AND
TWO BRANCHS OF GOVERNMENT AND
YOU GET THE ARGUMENTS BETWEEN
YOU GET THE ARGUMENTS BETWEEN
THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE BEFORE
THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE BEFORE
A FINAL BUDGET IS SENT TO THE
A FINAL BUDGET IS SENT TO THE
BUDGET AND MORE ARGUMENTS
BUDGET AND MORE ARGUMENTS
BEGINS.
BEGINS.
>> IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO
>> IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO
SEE.
SEE.
LET'S MOVE TO ELECTION REFORM,
LET'S MOVE TO ELECTION REFORM,
IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE
IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE
SEEN THIS PAST WEEK, BUT WE'LL
SEEN THIS PAST WEEK, BUT WE'LL
LOOK TOWARD NEXT WEEK.
LOOK TOWARD NEXT WEEK.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
A CONTROVERSIAL BILL ENDED UP IN
A CONTROVERSIAL BILL ENDED UP IN
THE COURT ENDED UP THE SUBJECT
THE COURT ENDED UP THE SUBJECT
OF A PETITION DRIVE THAT'S
OF A PETITION DRIVE THAT'S
GETTING ON THE BALLOT THAT WOULD
GETTING ON THE BALLOT THAT WOULD
PULL BACK OR REPEAL WHAT THE
PULL BACK OR REPEAL WHAT THE
LEGISLATURE DID LAST YEAR.
LEGISLATURE DID LAST YEAR.
WELL, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED IN THE
WELL, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED IN THE
LEGISLATURE ESPECIALLY
LEGISLATURE ESPECIALLY
REPUBLICANS THAT IF VOTERS PASS
REPUBLICANS THAT IF VOTERS PASS
THAT AND REPEAL IT, THERE'S NO
THAT AND REPEAL IT, THERE'S NO
WAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE COULD
WAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE COULD
EVER GO BACK IN AND RETWEAK
EVER GO BACK IN AND RETWEAK
THINGS, AT LEAST FOR A FEW YEARS
THINGS, AT LEAST FOR A FEW YEARS
BECAUSE THIS WAS NOW A CITIZEN
BECAUSE THIS WAS NOW A CITIZEN
INITIATIVE.
INITIATIVE.
WHAT THE LEGISLATURE, THE
WHAT THE LEGISLATURE, THE
REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO DO IS
REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO DO IS
REPEAL THAT LAW NOW THEMSELVES.
REPEAL THAT LAW NOW THEMSELVES.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT IN
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT IN
THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
REPRESENTATIVE EDDIE FARNSWORTH
REPRESENTATIVE EDDIE FARNSWORTH
WAS SPONSORING IT.
WAS SPONSORING IT.
THE ROOM WAS FULL.
THE ROOM WAS FULL.
EVERYBODY WAS WAITING FOR THE
EVERYBODY WAS WAITING FOR THE
FIGHT.
FIGHT.
HE STARTED THE MEETING AND
HE STARTED THE MEETING AND
ANNOUNCED THAT BILL WAS NOT
ANNOUNCED THAT BILL WAS NOT
BEING HEARD THIS WEEK.
BEING HEARD THIS WEEK.
THE ROOM VERY QUICKLY EMPTIED,
THE ROOM VERY QUICKLY EMPTIED,
FARNSWORTH JOKED ABOUT IT.
FARNSWORTH JOKED ABOUT IT.
THEY SAID THEY'RE STILL WORKING
THEY SAID THEY'RE STILL WORKING
ON THE LANGUAGE.
ON THE LANGUAGE.
>> SO WE'RE GETTING THE --
>> SO WE'RE GETTING THE --
THEY'RE GETTING THEIR DUCKS IN A
THEY'RE GETTING THEIR DUCKS IN A
ROW BEFORE THEY BRING EVERYTHING
ROW BEFORE THEY BRING EVERYTHING
TO THE TABLE.
TO THE TABLE.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY.
>> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THANK
>> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THANK
YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
AGAIN, I SHOULD MENTION YOU WILL
AGAIN, I SHOULD MENTION YOU WILL
BE A REGULAR CONTRIBUTOR HERE ON
BE A REGULAR CONTRIBUTOR HERE ON
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