ESPECIALLY HERE IN ARIZONA.
IT'S ONE MANY FROM ALL SPECTRUMS

IT'S ONE MANY FROM ALL SPECTRUMS
ARE WATCHING.

ARE WATCHING.
>> I HAVE A MIXED FAMILY, MY MOM

>> I HAVE A MIXED FAMILY, MY MOM
IS ILLEGAL.

IS ILLEGAL.
I MEAN JUST TO TEAR APART THE

I MEAN JUST TO TEAR APART THE
FAMILY IT'S REALLY SAD.

FAMILY IT'S REALLY SAD.
IT'S NOT FAIR.

IT'S NOT FAIR.
>> WE WANT TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES

>> WE WANT TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES
TOGETHER.

TOGETHER.
>> FROM DREAMERS TO THE BOOTS ON

>> FROM DREAMERS TO THE BOOTS ON
THE GROUND, --

THE GROUND, --
>> THE AGENTS ARE --

>> THE AGENTS ARE --
>> IT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU?

>> IT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
>> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

>> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
>> A LOOK AT THE STATUS OF

>> A LOOK AT THE STATUS OF
IMMIGRATION IN THE STATE.

IMMIGRATION IN THE STATE.
THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."

IT'S UP FOR DEBATE, IS THE
BORDER SECURE?

BORDER SECURE?
MANY TIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHOM

MANY TIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHOM
YOU ASK, BUT WHAT DO THE MEN AND

YOU ASK, BUT WHAT DO THE MEN AND
WOMEN WHO PATROL THE DESERTS SAY

WOMEN WHO PATROL THE DESERTS SAY
ABOUT THE RUGGED TERRAIN BETWEEN

ABOUT THE RUGGED TERRAIN BETWEEN
ARIZONA AND MEXICO?

ARIZONA AND MEXICO?
HERE IS ART DEL CUENTO,

HERE IS ART DEL CUENTO,
PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL 2544

PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL 2544
NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL.

NATIONAL BORDER PATROL COUNCIL.
THE UNION IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.

THE UNION IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
IS THE BORDER SECURE TO YOU?

IS THE BORDER SECURE TO YOU?
>> I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS

>> I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS
WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE

WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE
BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE.

BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
BUT IS IT COMPLETELY SECURE BY

BUT IS IT COMPLETELY SECURE BY
NO MEANS.

NO MEANS.
IT'S -- I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S

IT'S -- I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S
CLOSE TO SECURE.

CLOSE TO SECURE.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SEEN A RAISE

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SEEN A RAISE
IN VIOLENCE ON THE SOUTH END OF

IN VIOLENCE ON THE SOUTH END OF
WHERE WE WORK.

WHERE WE WORK.
THAT'S DIRECTLY WHERE WE WORK.

THAT'S DIRECTLY WHERE WE WORK.
SO THAT CONSTANTLY TRICKLES IN.

SO THAT CONSTANTLY TRICKLES IN.
CURRENTLY THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT

CURRENTLY THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT
PERHAPS THE AMOUNT OF

PERHAPS THE AMOUNT OF
APPREHENSIONS WE GET MIGHT BE

APPREHENSIONS WE GET MIGHT BE
LOWER BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE TOP

LOWER BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE TOP
WHEN IT COMES TO DRUG SEIZURES.

WHEN IT COMES TO DRUG SEIZURES.
IN FACT, ONE INTERESTING FACT,

IN FACT, ONE INTERESTING FACT,
THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE IS THAT

THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE IS THAT
THE TUCSON SECTOR ALONE IS

THE TUCSON SECTOR ALONE IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR 60% OF ALL THE

RESPONSIBLE FOR 60% OF ALL THE
DRUG SEIZURES IN THE ENTIRE

DRUG SEIZURES IN THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.
>> YOU TALK ABOUT SEIZURES GOING

>> YOU TALK ABOUT SEIZURES GOING
UP.

UP.
THAT MEANS SOMETHING YOU GUYS

THAT MEANS SOMETHING YOU GUYS
ARE DOING IS WORKING.

ARE DOING IS WORKING.
WHAT IS THAT?

WHAT IS THAT?
IT IS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE

IT IS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE
AGENTS?

AGENTS?
>> WE DID RECEIVE MORE AGENTS.

>> WE DID RECEIVE MORE AGENTS.
WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T

WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T
UNDERSTAND IS ALTHOUGH WE HAVE

UNDERSTAND IS ALTHOUGH WE HAVE
MORE AGENTS, THE AGENCY GREW AT

MORE AGENTS, THE AGENCY GREW AT
A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.

A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.
SO WE DID BRING IN MORE AGENTS.

SO WE DID BRING IN MORE AGENTS.
BUT OTHER AGENTS -- AGENCIES DID

BUT OTHER AGENTS -- AGENCIES DID
NOT GROW TO THAT EFFECT.

NOT GROW TO THAT EFFECT.
SO WHAT WE FIND OURSELVES DOING

SO WHAT WE FIND OURSELVES DOING
IS FARMING OUT A LOT OF THE

IS FARMING OUT A LOT OF THE
AGENTS OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES.

AGENTS OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES.
AGENCIES COVERING PROSECUTIONS,

AGENCIES COVERING PROSECUTIONS,
COVERING THE DEA.

COVERING THE DEA.
SOME AGENTS ARE WORKING AT THE

SOME AGENTS ARE WORKING AT THE
PORT OF ENTRIES.

PORT OF ENTRIES.
BECAUSE THOSE AGENCIES DIDN'T

BECAUSE THOSE AGENCIES DIDN'T
GROW AS FAST.

GROW AS FAST.
SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ON

SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ON
PAPER, YOU SEE THAT WE DO HAVE

PAPER, YOU SEE THAT WE DO HAVE
MORE AGENTS.

MORE AGENTS.
BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE DOING

BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE DOING
THE AGENT WORK.

THE AGENT WORK.
THEY HAVEN'T FARMED OUT TO OTHER

THEY HAVEN'T FARMED OUT TO OTHER
AGENCIES, ASSISTING OTHER

AGENCIES, ASSISTING OTHER
AGENCIES.

AGENCIES.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN
THE ISSUE OF BUDGET CUTS.

THE ISSUE OF BUDGET CUTS.
IS THE AGENCY DOING MORE TO MAKE

IS THE AGENCY DOING MORE TO MAKE
YOUR JOB SAFER?

YOUR JOB SAFER?
>> WELL, AS FAR AS SAFETY, WITH

>> WELL, AS FAR AS SAFETY, WITH
LESS MONEY THERE'S LESS

LESS MONEY THERE'S LESS
MAINTENANCE FOR THE VEHICLES.

MAINTENANCE FOR THE VEHICLES.
THERE'S STUFF -- STUFF BREAKS,

THERE'S STUFF -- STUFF BREAKS,
IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO

IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO
FIX.

FIX.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, I

SO WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, I
MEAN, THE BUDGET JUST AFFECTS

MEAN, THE BUDGET JUST AFFECTS
EVERYTHING.

EVERYTHING.
IT AFFECTS ALL AROUND

IT AFFECTS ALL AROUND
EVERYTHING.

EVERYTHING.
>> THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES

>> THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES
HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA THAT

HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA THAT
SAW A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND

SAW A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND
MAYBE IN SOME CASES SEALED OFF

MAYBE IN SOME CASES SEALED OFF
THE BORDER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

THE BORDER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
WHAT THE GEOGRAPHY LOOKS LIKE.

WHAT THE GEOGRAPHY LOOKS LIKE.
BUT THERE ARE THOSE CRITICS WHO

BUT THERE ARE THOSE CRITICS WHO
SAY IT PUSHED THE TRAFFIC

SAY IT PUSHED THE TRAFFIC
OUTWARD AND CREATED A WHOLE NEW

OUTWARD AND CREATED A WHOLE NEW
BALL OF WAX.

BALL OF WAX.
NEW PROBLEM.

NEW PROBLEM.
>> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT.
>> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?

>> HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
>> I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAKING THE

>> I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAKING THE
RIGHT STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO

RIGHT STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO
BLOCKING CERTAIN AREAS BUT I'M A

BLOCKING CERTAIN AREAS BUT I'M A
REALIST AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR

REALIST AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR
PROCESS AND THINKING BEHIND

PROCESS AND THINKING BEHIND
WANTING TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.

WANTING TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE AREA THAT MOST PEOPLE SEE

THE AREA THAT MOST PEOPLE SEE
ARE THE PORTS OF ENTRIES AND THE

ARE THE PORTS OF ENTRIES AND THE
SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE CITY.

SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE CITY.
YOU GO AT STEPS TO BLOCK THAT

YOU GO AT STEPS TO BLOCK THAT
OFF.

OFF.
IT GIVES THE PUBLIC PERSONA THE

IT GIVES THE PUBLIC PERSONA THE
IMAGE OF HEY, IT'S SECURE NOW.

IMAGE OF HEY, IT'S SECURE NOW.
IT'S SETTLED.

IT'S SETTLED.
BUT IF YOU TRAVEL THREE MORE

BUT IF YOU TRAVEL THREE MORE
MILES OUT YOU WILL SEE HOW BAD

MILES OUT YOU WILL SEE HOW BAD
THE AREA IS AND WHERE THE FENCE

THE AREA IS AND WHERE THE FENCE
IS SET UP.

IS SET UP.
AND EVEN THOSE WORKING ON THE

AND EVEN THOSE WORKING ON THE
RESERVATION NEARBY, THERE IS NO

RESERVATION NEARBY, THERE IS NO
FENCE.

FENCE.
SO THAT HAS INCREASED.

SO THAT HAS INCREASED.
INCREASED THE VIOLENCE -- THE

INCREASED THE VIOLENCE -- THE
VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED.

VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED.
I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE.

I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED WE USED TO

WHEN I FIRST STARTED WE USED TO
CATCH GROUPS AND THEY WERE

CATCH GROUPS AND THEY WERE
ARRESTED AND THEY WERE DONE.

ARRESTED AND THEY WERE DONE.
NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE

NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE
THAT EVERY GROUP WE CATCH, IT'S

THAT EVERY GROUP WE CATCH, IT'S
A STRUGGLE, IT'S A FIGHT.

A STRUGGLE, IT'S A FIGHT.
I MEAN, THE -- WE'RE IN MORE

I MEAN, THE -- WE'RE IN MORE
REMOTE AREAS NOW WHERE THE BIG

REMOTE AREAS NOW WHERE THE BIG
GROUPS ARE CROSSING.

GROUPS ARE CROSSING.
SO IT'S BEEN MORE DANGEROUS TO

SO IT'S BEEN MORE DANGEROUS TO
THE AGENTS I WOULD SAY.

THE AGENTS I WOULD SAY.
>> ARE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS UP?

>> ARE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS UP?
>> THE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS ARE

>> THE ASSAULTS ON AGENTS ARE
DEFINITELY UP.

DEFINITELY UP.
>> THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU?

>> THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
>> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

>> IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE WITH

IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE WITH
THE ASSAULTS BEING UP, THE AGENT

THE ASSAULTS BEING UP, THE AGENT
IS IN THE POSITION WHERE HE HAS

IS IN THE POSITION WHERE HE HAS
TO DEFEND HIMSELF.

TO DEFEND HIMSELF.
AND THIS AGENCY AS AN AGENT YOU

AND THIS AGENCY AS AN AGENT YOU
DEFEND YOURSELF AND IT'S

DEFEND YOURSELF AND IT'S
SCRUTINIZED TREMENDOUSLY.

SCRUTINIZED TREMENDOUSLY.
ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE

ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE
POLITICAL PRESSURE SPEAKING

POLITICAL PRESSURE SPEAKING
ABOUT AMNESTY AND EVERYTHING

ABOUT AMNESTY AND EVERYTHING
ELSE.

ELSE.
THE AGENT HIMSELF IS PUT IN A

THE AGENT HIMSELF IS PUT IN A
SMALL BOX WHERE EVERYONE IS

SMALL BOX WHERE EVERYONE IS
LOOKING AT HIM WHEN ONE OF THE

LOOKING AT HIM WHEN ONE OF THE
INCIDENTS OCCURS.

INCIDENTS OCCURS.
>> WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE IN

>> WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE IN
WASHINGTON NEED TO KNOW ABOUT

WASHINGTON NEED TO KNOW ABOUT
WHAT'S HAPPENING ON GROUND ZERO,

WHAT'S HAPPENING ON GROUND ZERO,
THE BORDER OF ARIZONA AND

THE BORDER OF ARIZONA AND
MEXICO?

MEXICO?
>> I THINK THEY NEED TO COME OUT

>> I THINK THEY NEED TO COME OUT
AND TAKE A TRIP.

AND TAKE A TRIP.
I HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION FOR

I HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION FOR
EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN THAT

EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN THAT
WANTS TO KNOW HE CAN COME DOWN

WANTS TO KNOW HE CAN COME DOWN
AND I'LL PERSONALLY TAKE HIM

AND I'LL PERSONALLY TAKE HIM
DOWN TO THE AREA AND SHOW HIM

DOWN TO THE AREA AND SHOW HIM
THE BORDER AND SHOW HIM WHERE WE

THE BORDER AND SHOW HIM WHERE WE
ACTUALLY WORK.

ACTUALLY WORK.
THAT I COME DOWN HERE AND --

THAT I COME DOWN HERE AND --
THEY COME DOWN HERE AND THEY

THEY COME DOWN HERE AND THEY
SPEAK TO THE HIGHER UPS THAT

SPEAK TO THE HIGHER UPS THAT
THEY WORK WITH IN WASHINGTON.

THEY WORK WITH IN WASHINGTON.
SO I GUESS THEY ARRANGE THE

SO I GUESS THEY ARRANGE THE
TRIPS IN WASHINGTON, THEY COME

TRIPS IN WASHINGTON, THEY COME
DOWN HERE, THEY HAVE THEIR DOG

DOWN HERE, THEY HAVE THEIR DOG
AND PONY SHOW AT THE PORT OF

AND PONY SHOW AT THE PORT OF
ENTRY HALF A MILE EAST AND WEST

ENTRY HALF A MILE EAST AND WEST
AND THEY DON'T SHOW THEM THE

AND THEY DON'T SHOW THEM THE
REAL AREA.

REAL AREA.
COME OUT HERE, ACTUALLY LOOK AT

COME OUT HERE, ACTUALLY LOOK AT
IT.

IT.
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE

I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE
POLITICIANS HERE THAT ACTUALLY

POLITICIANS HERE THAT ACTUALLY
DO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE

DO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE
DANGER.

DANGER.
AND THEY HAVE SEEN IT.

AND THEY HAVE SEEN IT.
I HAVE TAKEN TRIPS WITH A COUPLE

I HAVE TAKEN TRIPS WITH A COUPLE
OF THEM AND SHOWN THEM.

OF THEM AND SHOWN THEM.
I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN EYE

I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN EYE
OPENER.

OPENER.
I CAN FIX ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS

I CAN FIX ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS
FROM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY.

FROM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY.
WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY THERE YOU

WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY THERE YOU
REALIZE WHAT THE ACTUAL MISSION

REALIZE WHAT THE ACTUAL MISSION
IS.

IS.
>> YOU WORK ALONG THE BORDER,

>> YOU WORK ALONG THE BORDER,
HOW WILL WE KNOW, HOW WILL YOU

HOW WILL WE KNOW, HOW WILL YOU
KNOW WHEN THE SYSTEM IS GETTING

KNOW WHEN THE SYSTEM IS GETTING
FIXED?

FIXED?
>> SEE, I THINK THAT'S AN ADDED

>> SEE, I THINK THAT'S AN ADDED
PLUS.

PLUS.
YOU MENTIONED I'M FROM MEXICO.

YOU MENTIONED I'M FROM MEXICO.
I'M FROM HERE.

I'M FROM HERE.
I WAS BORN IN MEXICO.

I WAS BORN IN MEXICO.
I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I'M A CITIZEN BECAUSE MY PARENTS

I'M A CITIZEN BECAUSE MY PARENTS
WERE CITIZENS.

WERE CITIZENS.
I WAS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY,

I WAS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY,
BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BIG

BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BIG
ISSUE.

ISSUE.
YOU WERE IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU

YOU WERE IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU
HAVE TO SHOW AN ALLEGIANCE TO

HAVE TO SHOW AN ALLEGIANCE TO
THE COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU WHAT

THE COUNTRY THAT GIVES YOU WHAT
YOU HAVE.

YOU HAVE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT
OF THE PROBLEMS COME AS FAR AS

OF THE PROBLEMS COME AS FAR AS
THE AMNESTY ISSUES AND STUFF

THE AMNESTY ISSUES AND STUFF
LIKE THAT.

LIKE THAT.
THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME

THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME
TO THIS COUNTRY, YESTERDAY

TO THIS COUNTRY, YESTERDAY
THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO BREAK

THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO BREAK
THOSE TIES FROM THEIR COUNTRY OF

THOSE TIES FROM THEIR COUNTRY OF
ORIGIN.

ORIGIN.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR

AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR
PROBLEM.

PROBLEM.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE GRATITUDE

YOU HAVE TO HAVE GRATITUDE
TOWARD THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU'RE

TOWARD THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU'RE
AT.

AT.
YES, I WAS BORN THERE.

YES, I WAS BORN THERE.
BUT I -- BY ALL MEANS THIS IS

BUT I -- BY ALL MEANS THIS IS
WHERE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP.

WHERE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP.
THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT HAS

THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT HAS
GIVEN ME EVERYTHING AND I OWE MY

GIVEN ME EVERYTHING AND I OWE MY
ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES

ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA.

OF AMERICA.
>> ABOUT A MONTH AFTER HIS

>> ABOUT A MONTH AFTER HIS
CONFIRMATION, THE SECRETARY OF

CONFIRMATION, THE SECRETARY OF
HOMELAND SECURITY JEH JOHNSON

HOMELAND SECURITY JEH JOHNSON
VISITED ARIZONA.

VISITED ARIZONA.
WE HAVE THIS REPORT.

WE HAVE THIS REPORT.
>> WE'LL MAKE SOME BRIEF

>> WE'LL MAKE SOME BRIEF
REMARKS.

REMARKS.
>> SECRETARY OF HOMELAND

>> SECRETARY OF HOMELAND
SECURITY, JEH JOHNSON HELD A

SECURITY, JEH JOHNSON HELD A
BRIEF PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE

BRIEF PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE
BORDER PATROL HEADQUARTERS IN

BORDER PATROL HEADQUARTERS IN
TUCSON AFTER HIS FIRST VISIT TO

TUCSON AFTER HIS FIRST VISIT TO
ARIZONA THIS WEEK.

ARIZONA THIS WEEK.
HE SAYS HE PLANS TO MAKE THE

HE SAYS HE PLANS TO MAKE THE
SOUTHWESTERN BORDER A PRIORITY.

SOUTHWESTERN BORDER A PRIORITY.
>> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OVER THE

>> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OVER THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS DEVOTED

LAST SEVERAL YEARS DEVOTED
CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES TO BORDER

CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES TO BORDER
SECURITY IN THIS PART OF THE

SECURITY IN THIS PART OF THE
COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.
WHICH ARE BEING USED VERY

WHICH ARE BEING USED VERY
EFFECTIVELY.

EFFECTIVELY.
BUT THERE CONTINUES TO BE WORK

BUT THERE CONTINUES TO BE WORK
TO DO.

TO DO.
ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER.

ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER.
>> JOHNSON SPENT TIME AT THE

>> JOHNSON SPENT TIME AT THE
BORDER IN DOUGLAS AND TOURED THE

BORDER IN DOUGLAS AND TOURED THE
AREA WITH CONGRESSMAN RON

AREA WITH CONGRESSMAN RON
BARBER, TALKING TO BORDER MAYORS

BARBER, TALKING TO BORDER MAYORS
AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
>> I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR FROM

>> I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR FROM
THE RANCHERS, FROM LOCAL LAW

THE RANCHERS, FROM LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY ARE

ENFORCEMENT THAT THEY ARE
IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF

IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF
COOPERATION BETWEEN THEM AND THE

COOPERATION BETWEEN THEM AND THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HERE, BETWEEN

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HERE, BETWEEN
THEM AND OUR BORDER SECURITY

THEM AND OUR BORDER SECURITY
PROFESSIONALS HERE.

PROFESSIONALS HERE.
>> SOME THOSE RANCHERS LIVING

>> SOME THOSE RANCHERS LIVING
ALONG THE BORDER WITH MEXICO ARE

ALONG THE BORDER WITH MEXICO ARE
CONCERNED WITH MORE THAN THE LAW

CONCERNED WITH MORE THAN THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF BORDER

ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF BORDER
SECURITY.

SECURITY.
>> THE PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO

>> THE PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO
HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE

HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE
NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT A

NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT A
BORDER IS NOT SECURE HAS ON

BORDER IS NOT SECURE HAS ON
THEIR WORK, ON THEIR RANCHES.

THEIR WORK, ON THEIR RANCHES.
ON THEIR HOME, ON THEIR LAND.

ON THEIR HOME, ON THEIR LAND.
AND THE MAYOR OF DOUGLAS AND THE

AND THE MAYOR OF DOUGLAS AND THE
MAYOR OF SIERRA VISTA SPOKE

MAYOR OF SIERRA VISTA SPOKE
ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT

ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NOT
HAVING A PORT OF ENTRY THAT'S

HAVING A PORT OF ENTRY THAT'S
MODERATE.

MODERATE.
THAT IS PROPERLY STAFFED.

THAT IS PROPERLY STAFFED.
>> WHEN ASKED WHAT HE SAW AS THE

>> WHEN ASKED WHAT HE SAW AS THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THIS

BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THIS
REGION, JOHNSON DID NOT MENTION

REGION, JOHNSON DID NOT MENTION
SPECIFICS.

SPECIFICS.
>> THE CHALLENGES EVOLVE, THE

>> THE CHALLENGES EVOLVE, THE
CHALLENGES MIGRATE.

CHALLENGES MIGRATE.
SO WE'VE GOT TO BE -- WE'VE GOT

SO WE'VE GOT TO BE -- WE'VE GOT
TO BE VIGILANT.

TO BE VIGILANT.
WE'VE GOT TO BE AGILE IN

WE'VE GOT TO BE AGILE IN
RESPONSE TO THOSE CHALLENGES.

RESPONSE TO THOSE CHALLENGES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO
ENCOURAGE CBT PERSONNEL HERE TO

ENCOURAGE CBT PERSONNEL HERE TO
DO.

DO.
>> JOHNSON WILL ASK THE BORDER

>> JOHNSON WILL ASK THE BORDER
PATROL TO KEEP RURAL AREAS IN

PATROL TO KEEP RURAL AREAS IN
MIND.

MIND.
>> THE RANCHERS OPERATE FOR THE

>> THE RANCHERS OPERATE FOR THE
MOST PART IN THE REUSCHEL AREAS

MOST PART IN THE REUSCHEL AREAS
OF THE STATE.

OF THE STATE.
THEY MAKE THE VERY VALID POINT

THEY MAKE THE VERY VALID POINT
THAT IF WE PUT RESOURCES IN THE

THAT IF WE PUT RESOURCES IN THE
TOWNS THE BORDER SECURITY THREAT

TOWNS THE BORDER SECURITY THREAT
WILL MIGRATE TO THE MORE RURAL

WILL MIGRATE TO THE MORE RURAL
AREAS.

AREAS.
>> PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA

>> PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
DEPORTED A RECORD HIGH NUMBER OF

DEPORTED A RECORD HIGH NUMBER OF
PEOPLE LAST YEAR.

PEOPLE LAST YEAR.
AND JOHNSON SAID PERHAPS THAT IS

AND JOHNSON SAID PERHAPS THAT IS
NOT THE BEST APPROACH.

NOT THE BEST APPROACH.
>> WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE

>> WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE
QUALITY OF OUR EFFORTS, NOT

QUALITY OF OUR EFFORTS, NOT
NECESSARILY THE QUANTITY BY

NECESSARILY THE QUANTITY BY
ITSELF.

ITSELF.
I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR

I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR
REMOVAL RESOURCES ON THREATS TO

REMOVAL RESOURCES ON THREATS TO
NATIONAL SECURITY, THREATS TO

NATIONAL SECURITY, THREATS TO
PUBLIC SAFETY, THREATS TO BORDER

PUBLIC SAFETY, THREATS TO BORDER
SECURITY WHICH CAN COME IN A

SECURITY WHICH CAN COME IN A
VARIETY OF FORMS.

VARIETY OF FORMS.
THAT COULD FOCUS ON LARGE

THAT COULD FOCUS ON LARGE
VOLUMES OF BOARDER CROSSINGS,

VOLUMES OF BOARDER CROSSINGS,
BUT NOT NECESSARILY.

BUT NOT NECESSARILY.
>> MOVING FORWARD, JOHNSON WANTS

>> MOVING FORWARD, JOHNSON WANTS
TO SEE AN INCREASE IN

TO SEE AN INCREASE IN
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY

ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
WHEN IT COMES TO USE OF FORCE BY

WHEN IT COMES TO USE OF FORCE BY
BORDER PATROL AGENTS.

BORDER PATROL AGENTS.
>> AND NOW THE STORY OF SANDRA

>> AND NOW THE STORY OF SANDRA
LOPEZ AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT

LOPEZ AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT
BROUGHT TO THE U.S. AS A CHILD.

BROUGHT TO THE U.S. AS A CHILD.
SANDRA WAS ON TRACK TO ENROLL IN

SANDRA WAS ON TRACK TO ENROLL IN
COLLEGE WHEN SHE WAS ARRESTED

COLLEGE WHEN SHE WAS ARRESTED
AND SPEND THREE YEARS IN AN

AND SPEND THREE YEARS IN AN
IMMIGRATION JAIL.

IMMIGRATION JAIL.
YOU WERES AFTER

YOU WERES AFTER
YOU WERE ARRESTED AT AGE 19.

YOU WERE ARRESTED AT AGE 19.
WHAT LED TO THAT ARREST?

WHAT LED TO THAT ARREST?
>> WHAT LED TO THE ARREST, I HAD

>> WHAT LED TO THE ARREST, I HAD
A GOOD FRIEND, HE ASKED ME TO

A GOOD FRIEND, HE ASKED ME TO
MAIL A BOX FOR HIM.

MAIL A BOX FOR HIM.
I JUST WENT AN TOOK IT TO THE

I JUST WENT AN TOOK IT TO THE
FEDEX AND MAILED IT.

FEDEX AND MAILED IT.
THE BOX DID CONTAIN NARCOTICS

THE BOX DID CONTAIN NARCOTICS
AND I WAS CHARGED WITH IT.

AND I WAS CHARGED WITH IT.
>> NOW, YOU WERE A RECENT

>> NOW, YOU WERE A RECENT
GRADUATE OF AMPHITHEATER HIGH

GRADUATE OF AMPHITHEATER HIGH
SCHOOL HERE IN TUCSON, SO YOU

SCHOOL HERE IN TUCSON, SO YOU
DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREVIOUS RUN-INS

DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREVIOUS RUN-INS
WITH THE LAW BEFORE THEN?

WITH THE LAW BEFORE THEN?
>> NO, MA'AM.

>> NO, MA'AM.
>> TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED

>> TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
NEXT.

NEXT.
>> AFTER THAT, I FOUND MYSELF IN

>> AFTER THAT, I FOUND MYSELF IN
THE CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS OF

THE CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS OF
HAVING MAILED A BOX WITH

HAVING MAILED A BOX WITH
NARCOTICS.

NARCOTICS.
AND I DID -- I TOOK THE WRONG

AND I DID -- I TOOK THE WRONG
CHOICE.

CHOICE.
I WAS CHOOSING A FRIEND AND

I WAS CHOOSING A FRIEND AND
DOING HIM A FAVOR.

DOING HIM A FAVOR.
WHILE I WAS IN THE COUNTY, I WAS

WHILE I WAS IN THE COUNTY, I WAS
THERE FOR SIX MONTHS WHILE I WAS

THERE FOR SIX MONTHS WHILE I WAS
CONVICTED OF THE CRIME.

CONVICTED OF THE CRIME.
AFTER THAT I WAS TAKEN BY

AFTER THAT I WAS TAKEN BY
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND

IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND
TAKEN TO ELOY FACILITY.

TAKEN TO ELOY FACILITY.
>> DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE

>> DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE
BORN IN MEXICO AND THAT YOU DID

BORN IN MEXICO AND THAT YOU DID
NOT HAVE STATUS HERE IN THE

NOT HAVE STATUS HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES?

UNITED STATES?
>> YES, I DID.

>> YES, I DID.
>> YOU DID.

>> YOU DID.
YOU WERE EVENTUALLY TRANSPORTED

YOU WERE EVENTUALLY TRANSPORTED
TO NOGALES AND YOU WERE

TO NOGALES AND YOU WERE
DEPORTED.

DEPORTED.
>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.
>> WHAT HAPPENED IN NOGALES IN

>> WHAT HAPPENED IN NOGALES IN
SONORA?

SONORA?
>> WHEN I GOT DROPPED OFF BY THE

>> WHEN I GOT DROPPED OFF BY THE
U.S. ENFORCEMENT, I DIDN'T KNOW

U.S. ENFORCEMENT, I DIDN'T KNOW
WHERE TO GO.

WHERE TO GO.
I HAD NEVER BEEN THERE.

I HAD NEVER BEEN THERE.
ME AND MY -- MY BROTHMOTHER BRO

ME AND MY -- MY BROTHMOTHER BRO
ME HERE AS A CHILD.

ME HERE AS A CHILD.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
THE IMMIGRATION, YOU KNOW, THAT

THE IMMIGRATION, YOU KNOW, THAT
MEXICAN OFFICIALS WOULD HELP ME

MEXICAN OFFICIALS WOULD HELP ME
AND HELP ME FIND A SHELTER.

AND HELP ME FIND A SHELTER.
I DID TRY TO FIND HELP, BUT IT

I DID TRY TO FIND HELP, BUT IT
DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY I

DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY I
THOUGHT IT WOULD.

THOUGHT IT WOULD.
I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS IN

I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS IN
MEXICO.

MEXICO.
I ROAMED THE STREETS AND TRIED

I ROAMED THE STREETS AND TRIED
TO LOOK FOR HELP.

TO LOOK FOR HELP.
THERE WAS A GROUP OF WOMEN THAT

THERE WAS A GROUP OF WOMEN THAT
WAS TRYING TO LURE ME INTO

WAS TRYING TO LURE ME INTO
PROSTITUTION, JUST WENT AWAY

PROSTITUTION, JUST WENT AWAY
AGAIN.

AGAIN.
I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HELP.

I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HELP.
I -- I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS

I -- I SLEPT ON THE TRAIN TRACKS
BECAUSE I SAW NOBODY WAS THERE.

BECAUSE I SAW NOBODY WAS THERE.
I FELT SAFE, HIDDEN.

I FELT SAFE, HIDDEN.
AND I MEAN, IT WAS THE WORST

AND I MEAN, IT WAS THE WORST
EXPERIENCE I EVER HAD, HONESTLY.

EXPERIENCE I EVER HAD, HONESTLY.
BEFORE THE LAST DAY -- BEFORE I

BEFORE THE LAST DAY -- BEFORE I
CAME FOR HELP TO THE U.S.

CAME FOR HELP TO THE U.S.
ENFORCEMENT, I WAS WALKING AND

ENFORCEMENT, I WAS WALKING AND
LOOKING FOR HELP.

LOOKING FOR HELP.
THERE WAS A MAN THAT HE GRABBED

THERE WAS A MAN THAT HE GRABBED
MY HAND AND HE HAD A BLADE IN

MY HAND AND HE HAD A BLADE IN
HIS HAND.

HIS HAND.
HE TRIED TO ASSAULT ME AND I

HE TRIED TO ASSAULT ME AND I
SWUNG MY HAND AND I RAN UP THE

SWUNG MY HAND AND I RAN UP THE
LANE OF THE TRAFFIC AND I SAW

LANE OF THE TRAFFIC AND I SAW
THE U.S. ENFORCEMENT AND ASKED

THE U.S. ENFORCEMENT AND ASKED
FOR HELP.

FOR HELP.
>> AND THEY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT

>> AND THEY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT
YOU TO THE U.S.

YOU TO THE U.S.
YOU WERE CHARGED FOR TRYING TO

YOU WERE CHARGED FOR TRYING TO
RE-ENTER THE COUNTRY.

RE-ENTER THE COUNTRY.
THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE TRANSPORTED

THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE TRANSPORTED
TO ELOY.

TO ELOY.
>> YES.

>> YES.
WELL, THE BAD PART IS I WAS --

WELL, THE BAD PART IS I WAS --
FIRST, I WAS TRANSFERRED TO

FIRST, I WAS TRANSFERRED TO
TORRANCE FACILITY.

TORRANCE FACILITY.
I WAS CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL

I WAS CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL
RE-ENTRY.

RE-ENTRY.
BUT I THINK THEY MADE A BIG

BUT I THINK THEY MADE A BIG
MISTAKE BECAUSE I WAS ASKING FOR

MISTAKE BECAUSE I WAS ASKING FOR
HELP, THEY TOLD ME I'D GET THE

HELP, THEY TOLD ME I'D GET THE
HELP.

HELP.
AT THE TIME I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT

AT THE TIME I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
ASYLUM AND I ASKED FOR HELP AND

ASYLUM AND I ASKED FOR HELP AND
THEY NEVER GAVE ME THE HELP I

THEY NEVER GAVE ME THE HELP I
NEEDED AND I WAS IN THE --

NEEDED AND I WAS IN THE --
INCARCERATED FOR FIVE MONTHS.

INCARCERATED FOR FIVE MONTHS.
>> FIVE MONTHS IN FLORENCE.

>> FIVE MONTHS IN FLORENCE.
>> JUST FOR ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY

>> JUST FOR ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY
WHEN I ASKED FOR HELP.

WHEN I ASKED FOR HELP.
>> THEN ANOTHER 2 1/2 IN ELOY.

>> THEN ANOTHER 2 1/2 IN ELOY.
>> YES.

>> YES.
>> YOU LIVED SOME OF THE BETTER

>> YOU LIVED SOME OF THE BETTER
PART OF YOUR YEARS AS A YOUNG

PART OF YOUR YEARS AS A YOUNG
WOMAN IN PRISON.

WOMAN IN PRISON.
>> YES.

>> YES.
>> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?

>> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> IT WAS REALLY HARD.

>> IT WAS REALLY HARD.
IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW?

IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW?
JUST TO BE INCARCERATED WITH A

JUST TO BE INCARCERATED WITH A
LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HONESTLY

LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HONESTLY
THERE WAS MORE ILLEGALS THAN,

THERE WAS MORE ILLEGALS THAN,
YOU KNOW, REALLY CRIMINALS.

YOU KNOW, REALLY CRIMINALS.
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD
KEEP US THAT LONG INCARCERATED

KEEP US THAT LONG INCARCERATED
JUST FOR COMING BACK.

JUST FOR COMING BACK.
YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PEOPLE

YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PEOPLE
THAT COME BACK LIKE ME IS FOR

THAT COME BACK LIKE ME IS FOR
HELP.

HELP.
NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO.

NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO.
YOU KNOW?

YOU KNOW?
WE NEEDED HELP.

WE NEEDED HELP.
AND THE U.S. -- THEY'RE GOOD AT

AND THE U.S. -- THEY'RE GOOD AT
IT.

IT.
HELPING US.

HELPING US.
BUT RIGHT THERE, LATELY, I THINK

BUT RIGHT THERE, LATELY, I THINK
THEY HAVE BEEN KIND OF MESSING

THEY HAVE BEEN KIND OF MESSING
UP BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HELPED

UP BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HELPED
US AND THEY JUST DEPORT US

US AND THEY JUST DEPORT US
AGAIN.

AGAIN.
TO BE INCARCERATED IT'S REALLY

TO BE INCARCERATED IT'S REALLY
HARD.

HARD.
YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS.

YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS.
THEY HAVE YOU DO THINGS YOU

THEY HAVE YOU DO THINGS YOU
DON'T WANT TO DO.

DON'T WANT TO DO.
YOU GET YELLED AT, YOU GET NASTY

YOU GET YELLED AT, YOU GET NASTY
FOOD, LOCKDOWN.

FOOD, LOCKDOWN.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEPRESSED.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEPRESSED.
YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT

YOU SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
REALLY MESS WITH YOUR MIND.

REALLY MESS WITH YOUR MIND.
IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO BE IN

IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO BE IN
THERE, HONESTLY.

THERE, HONESTLY.
>> THREE YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IN A

>> THREE YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IN A
FEDERAL FACILITY.

FEDERAL FACILITY.
YOU WERE RELEASED IN NOVEMBER,

YOU WERE RELEASED IN NOVEMBER,
RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.

RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.
>> YES.

>> YES.
THANK GOD.

THANK GOD.
>> WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE

>> WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE
LIKE?

LIKE?
STEPPING OUT INTO FREE EARTH AND

STEPPING OUT INTO FREE EARTH AND
BEING WITH YOUR FAMILY, YOUR

BEING WITH YOUR FAMILY, YOUR
MOM, YOUR DAD, YOUR BROTHERS AND

MOM, YOUR DAD, YOUR BROTHERS AND
SISTERS.

SISTERS.
>> IT WAS A BLESSING, YOU KNOW?

>> IT WAS A BLESSING, YOU KNOW?
I STILL -- I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN

I STILL -- I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN
OUT FOR TWO MONTHS, IT'S HARD TO

OUT FOR TWO MONTHS, IT'S HARD TO
BELIEVE IT.

BELIEVE IT.
IT'S THE BEST THING.

IT'S THE BEST THING.
I'M STILL STRUGGLING, BUT IT'S A

I'M STILL STRUGGLING, BUT IT'S A
BLESSING BECAUSE I'M WITH MY

BLESSING BECAUSE I'M WITH MY
FAMILY AGAIN.

FAMILY AGAIN.
AND I HAVE MY BROTHERS AND

AND I HAVE MY BROTHERS AND
SISTERS.

SISTERS.
I HAVE MY UNCLE THAT'S HELPING

I HAVE MY UNCLE THAT'S HELPING
ME OUT AND PROVIDING FOR ME.

ME OUT AND PROVIDING FOR ME.
>> FOR SOME PEOPLE GETTING OUT

>> FOR SOME PEOPLE GETTING OUT
OF A PRISON FACILITY IS A HUGE

OF A PRISON FACILITY IS A HUGE
TRANSITION.

TRANSITION.
BUT YOU ENROLLED AS A STUDENT AT

BUT YOU ENROLLED AS A STUDENT AT
MARICOPA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN

MARICOPA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN
PHOENIX AND YOU'RE NOW

PHOENIX AND YOU'RE NOW
CONSIDERED A DREAMER.

CONSIDERED A DREAMER.
>> YES.

>> YES.
>> WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT

>> WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT
YOUR DEPORTATION.

YOUR DEPORTATION.
TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS

TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS
ARE FOR YOU.

ARE FOR YOU.
>> WELL, THE NEXT STEP FOR ME,

>> WELL, THE NEXT STEP FOR ME,
IT WAS HARD TO GET INTO COLLEGE,

IT WAS HARD TO GET INTO COLLEGE,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
ANY -- I CAN'T APPLY AND

ANY -- I CAN'T APPLY AND
QUALIFY, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME.

QUALIFY, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME.
BUT THANK GOD I MADE IT.

BUT THANK GOD I MADE IT.
I'M ENROLLED NOW.

I'M ENROLLED NOW.
I START COLLEGE NEXT WEEK.

I START COLLEGE NEXT WEEK.
I'M HAPPY, YOU KNOW?

I'M HAPPY, YOU KNOW?
I'M A FIGHTER.

I'M A FIGHTER.
I'M HERE TO KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL

I'M HERE TO KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL
IT'S OVER WITH.

IT'S OVER WITH.
AND I'M ENROLLED IN COLLEGE NOW

AND I'M ENROLLED IN COLLEGE NOW
FINALLY.

FINALLY.
>> YOU'RE A FIGHTER.

>> YOU'RE A FIGHTER.
YOU HAVE PLANS FOR A FUTURE.

YOU HAVE PLANS FOR A FUTURE.
WHAT HAS GIVEN YOU THAT STRENGTH

WHAT HAS GIVEN YOU THAT STRENGTH
TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD?

TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD?
>> GOD FIRST OF ALL.

>> GOD FIRST OF ALL.
GOD HAS GIVEN ME THAT STRENGTH.

GOD HAS GIVEN ME THAT STRENGTH.
JUST ME WANTING TO DO WHAT I

JUST ME WANTING TO DO WHAT I
WANT TO DO AND PURSUING MY

WANT TO DO AND PURSUING MY
CAREER IN BEING A PSYCHOLOGIST

CAREER IN BEING A PSYCHOLOGIST
OR A NURSE.

OR A NURSE.
>> YOU'RE WELL EDUCATED ON THE

>> YOU'RE WELL EDUCATED ON THE
ISSUE.

ISSUE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO

THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO
PERHAPS BLAME YOUR PARENTS FOR

PERHAPS BLAME YOUR PARENTS FOR
BRINGING YOU HERE AND LIVING

BRINGING YOU HERE AND LIVING
YOUR LIFE HERE.

YOUR LIFE HERE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE
WHO ARE WATCHING THIS AND

WHO ARE WATCHING THIS AND
WONDERING WHAT LED YOUR PARENTS

WONDERING WHAT LED YOUR PARENTS
TO DO THIS?

TO DO THIS?
WHAT GIVES YOU THE DRIVE TO KEEP

WHAT GIVES YOU THE DRIVE TO KEEP
GOING AND TO FIGHT FOR RESIDENCY

GOING AND TO FIGHT FOR RESIDENCY
FOR AN EDUCATION?

FOR AN EDUCATION?
>> I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD

>> I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD
BLAME THE PARENTS.

BLAME THE PARENTS.
I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON

I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON
EVERYBODY'S SITUATION AND WHAT

EVERYBODY'S SITUATION AND WHAT
THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AT THE

THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AT THE
TIME.

TIME.
YES, PEOPLE TRY TO FIND A BETTER

YES, PEOPLE TRY TO FIND A BETTER
FUTURE FOR THEIR KIDS.

FUTURE FOR THEIR KIDS.
IN THEIR BEST INTEREST.

IN THEIR BEST INTEREST.
BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE

BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE
HELP FOR THE PARENTS.

HELP FOR THE PARENTS.
NOT JUST PUTTING THEM DOWN LIKE

NOT JUST PUTTING THEM DOWN LIKE
OH, IT'S YOUR PARENT'S FAULT.

OH, IT'S YOUR PARENT'S FAULT.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE

I THINK THEY SHOULD BE
INCLUDED -- THERE'S A LOT OF

INCLUDED -- THERE'S A LOT OF
FAMILIES LIKE MINE, I HAVE A

FAMILIES LIKE MINE, I HAVE A
MIXED STATUS FAMILY.

MIXED STATUS FAMILY.
I'M ILLEGAL, MY MOTHER IS

I'M ILLEGAL, MY MOTHER IS
ILLEGAL, I MEAN, TO TEAR APART

ILLEGAL, I MEAN, TO TEAR APART
THE FAMILY IT'S NOT FAIR.

THE FAMILY IT'S NOT FAIR.
I KNOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF

I KNOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF
FAMILIES LIKE THAT.

FAMILIES LIKE THAT.
>> SANDRA, YOU PLAN TO KEEP ON

>> SANDRA, YOU PLAN TO KEEP ON
FIGHTING REGARDLESS OF WHAT

FIGHTING REGARDLESS OF WHAT
HAPPENS.

HAPPENS.
>> I'LL KEEP FIGHTING, YES.

>> I'LL KEEP FIGHTING, YES.
>> SANDRA LOPEZ, THANK YOU FOR

>> SANDRA LOPEZ, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME.

YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> SANDRA IS PURSUING HER

>> SANDRA IS PURSUING HER
EDUCATION UNDER PRESIDENT

EDUCATION UNDER PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S DEFERRED DEPORTATION

OBAMA'S DEFERRED DEPORTATION
PROGRAM.

PROGRAM.
>>> NOW THE STORY OF ANOTHER

>>> NOW THE STORY OF ANOTHER
DREAMER, JESSICA GARCIA, BROUGHT

DREAMER, JESSICA GARCIA, BROUGHT
TO THE U.S. AT THE AGE OF 13.

TO THE U.S. AT THE AGE OF 13.
SHE'S CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT PIMA

SHE'S CURRENTLY ENROLLED AT PIMA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
>> ON THE FIRST FEW YEARS I

>> ON THE FIRST FEW YEARS I
WANTED TO GO BACK TO MEXICO,

WANTED TO GO BACK TO MEXICO,
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLAN FOR

BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLAN FOR
EVERYONE.

EVERYONE.
JUST COME HERE AND LEARN THE

JUST COME HERE AND LEARN THE
ENGLISH, FINISH YOUR EDUCATION

ENGLISH, FINISH YOUR EDUCATION
AND THEN GO BACK.

AND THEN GO BACK.
THEN I REALIZED I WANTED TO

THEN I REALIZED I WANTED TO
CONTINUE MY EDUCATION, I WANTED

CONTINUE MY EDUCATION, I WANTED
TO DO SOMETHING HERE.

TO DO SOMETHING HERE.
MEXICO IT'S NOT ALWAYS A SAFE

MEXICO IT'S NOT ALWAYS A SAFE
PLACE.

PLACE.
MORE WHEN YOU'RE A WOMAN AND

MORE WHEN YOU'RE A WOMAN AND
TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION, IT'S

TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION, IT'S
STILL -- SO I KNEW I WASN'T

STILL -- SO I KNEW I WASN'T
GOING -- IT WASN'T GOING TO BE

GOING -- IT WASN'T GOING TO BE
THAT EASY SO I DECIDED TO STAY

THAT EASY SO I DECIDED TO STAY
HERE.

HERE.
>> HOW IMPORTANT IS EDUCATION TO

>> HOW IMPORTANT IS EDUCATION TO
YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY TO WATCH

YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY TO WATCH
YOU GET YOUR EDUCATION?

YOU GET YOUR EDUCATION?
>> THAT WAS THE FIRST THING

>> THAT WAS THE FIRST THING
THAT -- ONLY GOAL WAS LIKE TO

THAT -- ONLY GOAL WAS LIKE TO
GET AN EDUCATION.

GET AN EDUCATION.
LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE CAN WAIT.

LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE CAN WAIT.
LIKE WE JUST -- THEY JUST WANT

LIKE WE JUST -- THEY JUST WANT
US TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

US TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND GET AN EDUCATION INSPIRED

AND GET AN EDUCATION INSPIRED
IT.

IT.
>> JESSICA, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT

>> JESSICA, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
THERE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THE

THERE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THE
REASONS WHY YOUR PARENTS BROUGHT

REASONS WHY YOUR PARENTS BROUGHT
YOU TO THE U.S. AT SUCH A YOUNG

YOU TO THE U.S. AT SUCH A YOUNG
AGE.

AGE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE?

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE?
>> I CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY MOM,

>> I CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY MOM,
BUT I CAN SEE FROM HER ACTIONS

BUT I CAN SEE FROM HER ACTIONS
SHE WANTED US TO HAVE A BETTER

SHE WANTED US TO HAVE A BETTER
LIVING.

LIVING.
IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT'S GOING

IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT'S GOING
ON IN MEXICO WITH THE NARCOS AND

ON IN MEXICO WITH THE NARCOS AND
THE DRUG CARTELS AND ALL THAT.

THE DRUG CARTELS AND ALL THAT.
AND AS A WOMAN, I REALLY -- I

AND AS A WOMAN, I REALLY -- I
DON'T WANT YOU TO BE THERE.

DON'T WANT YOU TO BE THERE.
AND OVER HERE, AS WELL, IT'S NOT

AND OVER HERE, AS WELL, IT'S NOT
THE SAME OPPORTUNITY IT HERE

THE SAME OPPORTUNITY IT HERE
THAN HAVING IT IN MEXICO.

THAN HAVING IT IN MEXICO.
MEXICO, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN BE

MEXICO, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN BE
GOOD IN EVERYTHING AND YOU'LL

GOOD IN EVERYTHING AND YOU'LL
HAVE EVERYTHING, EITHER THERE'S

HAVE EVERYTHING, EITHER THERE'S
A SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT

A SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT
WITH.

WITH.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S A SYSTEM YOU

AND SOMETIMES IT'S A SYSTEM YOU
DON'T WANT TO BE AT.

DON'T WANT TO BE AT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I
DECIDED TO STAY.

DECIDED TO STAY.
AND I'M PROUD SHE BROUGHT US IN.

AND I'M PROUD SHE BROUGHT US IN.
>> WHAT IS YOUR IMMIGRATION

>> WHAT IS YOUR IMMIGRATION
STATUS RIGHT NOW?

STATUS RIGHT NOW?
>> AS OF NOW, I HAVE DEFERRED.

>> AS OF NOW, I HAVE DEFERRED.
>> WHAT DOES THE GOVERNMENT NEED

>> WHAT DOES THE GOVERNMENT NEED
TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE -- STUDENTS

TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE -- STUDENTS
LIKE YOU?

LIKE YOU?
>> IT CAN BE UP TO ANY STATE,

>> IT CAN BE UP TO ANY STATE,
WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT.

WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT.
I CAN SAY SEE THAT'S NOT A

I CAN SAY SEE THAT'S NOT A
SOLUTION.

SOLUTION.
IT'S NOT THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR

IT'S NOT THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR
IT, BUT IT ONLY GOES FOR TWO

IT, BUT IT ONLY GOES FOR TWO
YEARS AND WE KNOW IN ARIZONA

YEARS AND WE KNOW IN ARIZONA
IT'S NOT GOOD.

IT'S NOT GOOD.
ONLY TO WORK.

ONLY TO WORK.
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF LIMITS

THERE'S STILL A LOT OF LIMITS
AND ONE OF THEM IS EDUCATION AND

AND ONE OF THEM IS EDUCATION AND
THE OTHER ONE IS THE RIGHT TO

THE OTHER ONE IS THE RIGHT TO
DRIVE OR HAVE AN I.D.

DRIVE OR HAVE AN I.D.
>> WHAT DO YOU WANT THE

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT THE
GOVERNMENT TO KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE

GOVERNMENT TO KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE
LIKE YOU, THE DREAMERS LIKE YOU?

LIKE YOU, THE DREAMERS LIKE YOU?
>> WE JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR

>> WE JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR
FAMILIES TOGETHER.

FAMILIES TOGETHER.
>> YOU SAID YOUR FATHER IS IN

>> YOU SAID YOUR FATHER IS IN
MEXICO.

MEXICO.
>> YES.

>> YES.
>> IS THAT HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY,

>> IS THAT HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY,
KNOWING HE'S OVER THERE AND

KNOWING HE'S OVER THERE AND
YOU'RE ALL HERE?

YOU'RE ALL HERE?
>> YES.

>> YES.
SO WE DON'T GET TO SEE HIM EVERY

SO WE DON'T GET TO SEE HIM EVERY
DAY.

DAY.
WE DON'T CALL HIM, LIKE WE'RE

WE DON'T CALL HIM, LIKE WE'RE
NOT ON THE PHONE EVERY SINGLE

NOT ON THE PHONE EVERY SINGLE
DAY, EVERY SINGLE HOUR.

DAY, EVERY SINGLE HOUR.
SO IN THAT SENSE WE DON'T HAVE

SO IN THAT SENSE WE DON'T HAVE
HIM NEXT TO US.

HIM NEXT TO US.
>> DO YOU WISH THINGS WERE

>> DO YOU WISH THINGS WERE
DIFFERENT?

DIFFERENT?
>> YES.

>> YES.
IT WOULD BE SO BETTER IF WE WERE

IT WOULD BE SO BETTER IF WE WERE
ABLE TO GO AND SEE HIM AND NOT

ABLE TO GO AND SEE HIM AND NOT
TAKE HIM COMING HERE AND SEE --

TAKE HIM COMING HERE AND SEE --
THERE MUST BE A PROBLEM WHEN HE

THERE MUST BE A PROBLEM WHEN HE
CROSSES THE LINES.

CROSSES THE LINES.
HE CAN COME IN, BUT SOMETIMES

HE CAN COME IN, BUT SOMETIMES
HE'S LIKE WHO ARE YOU VISITING

HE'S LIKE WHO ARE YOU VISITING
OVER THERE AND THE QUESTIONS

OVER THERE AND THE QUESTIONS
THAT CAN LEAD TO FINDING OUT HIS

THAT CAN LEAD TO FINDING OUT HIS
FAMILY IS LIVING IN THE U.S.

FAMILY IS LIVING IN THE U.S.
>> WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS?

>> WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS?
>> TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION.

>> TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION.
I'M TRYING TO GET INTO ANOTHER

I'M TRYING TO GET INTO ANOTHER
COLLEGE.

COLLEGE.
AND THEN CONTINUE THAT.

AND THEN CONTINUE THAT.
>> WHAT ARE YOUR LONG-TERM

>> WHAT ARE YOUR LONG-TERM
GOALS?

GOALS?
DO YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.?

DO YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.?
DO YOU WANT TO RETURN TO MEXICO?

DO YOU WANT TO RETURN TO MEXICO?
>> I WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.

>> I WANT TO STAY IN THE U.S.
PROBABLY OWN MY OWN BUSINESS.

PROBABLY OWN MY OWN BUSINESS.
WORK FOR A NONPROFIT, TO

WORK FOR A NONPROFIT, TO
CONTINUE WITH THE NONPROFITS AND

CONTINUE WITH THE NONPROFITS AND
ALSO LOCAL BUSINESSES.

ALSO LOCAL BUSINESSES.
>> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT

>> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
IMMIGRATION BECAUSE IT WILL BE

IMMIGRATION BECAUSE IT WILL BE
THE SUBJECT OF NEXT WEEK'S

THE SUBJECT OF NEXT WEEK'S
INDEPENDENT LENS, ENTITLED STATE

INDEPENDENT LENS, ENTITLED STATE
OF ARIZONA.

OF ARIZONA.
HERE'S A PREVIEW OF NEXT WEEK'S

HERE'S A PREVIEW OF NEXT WEEK'S
EPISODE.

EPISODE.
>> GOING TO ALLOW EVERY POLICE

>> GOING TO ALLOW EVERY POLICE
AGENCY IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA

AGENCY IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA
TO DO WHAT SHERIFF ARPAIO HAS

TO DO WHAT SHERIFF ARPAIO HAS
BEEN DOING AND THAT'S

BEEN DOING AND THAT'S
TERRORIZING AND SEPARATING OUR

TERRORIZING AND SEPARATING OUR
COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITY.
>> WE GREW UP LOVING THIS

>> WE GREW UP LOVING THIS
COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.
LOVING EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS

LOVING EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.
WE HAVE GOT 1 -- I THINK THE

WE HAVE GOT 1 -- I THINK THE
NUMBER IS UP TO 170

NUMBER IS UP TO 170
NATIONALITIES THAT HAVE BEEN

NATIONALITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED THAT ARE COMING

IDENTIFIED THAT ARE COMING
ACROSS THAT BORDER.

ACROSS THAT BORDER.
SOME COUNTRIES OF INTEREST,

SOME COUNTRIES OF INTEREST,
MEANING THEY HARBOR, AID, ABET

MEANING THEY HARBOR, AID, ABET
OR SOMEHOW ARE INVOLVED IN

OR SOMEHOW ARE INVOLVED IN
TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S

TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S
PRETTY DANGEROUS.

PRETTY DANGEROUS.
THE FEDS COULDN'T ENFORCE THIS

THE FEDS COULDN'T ENFORCE THIS
BY THEMSELVES.

BY THEMSELVES.
YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE THE POLICE

YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE THE POLICE
OFFICERS A TRAFFIC STOP AT A

OFFICERS A TRAFFIC STOP AT A
TIME.

TIME.
>> THAT AIRS HERE ON PBS 6 ON

>> THAT AIRS HERE ON PBS 6 ON
MONDAY NIGHT.

MONDAY NIGHT.
>>> NOW TO THE WEEKLY SESSION ON

>>> NOW TO THE WEEKLY SESSION ON
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE

WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE
LEGISLATURE WITH CHRISTOPHER

LEGISLATURE WITH CHRISTOPHER
CONOVER, THIS WEEK, LET'S START

CONOVER, THIS WEEK, LET'S START
OFF WITH THE BUDGET WHICH WE

OFF WITH THE BUDGET WHICH WE
ENDED OFF ON LAST WEEK.

ENDED OFF ON LAST WEEK.
WHAT'S THE LATEST THERE?

WHAT'S THE LATEST THERE?
>> WELL, LAST WEEK, GOVERNOR

>> WELL, LAST WEEK, GOVERNOR
BREWER HAD JUST RELEASED HER

BREWER HAD JUST RELEASED HER
BUDGET SO WE GOT THE GOVERNOR'S

BUDGET SO WE GOT THE GOVERNOR'S
PLAN OR WHAT SHE'D LIKE THE

PLAN OR WHAT SHE'D LIKE THE
LEGISLATURE TO DO.

LEGISLATURE TO DO.
IT INCLUDES SOME LONG-TERM LOOKS

IT INCLUDES SOME LONG-TERM LOOKS
AND REVENUE ESTIMATES AND THINGS

AND REVENUE ESTIMATES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT FOR THE NEXT FEW

LIKE THAT FOR THE NEXT FEW
FISCAL YEARS.

FISCAL YEARS.
THIS WEEK, THE LEGISLATURE AFTER

THIS WEEK, THE LEGISLATURE AFTER
TAKING MONDAY OFF FOR THE MARTIN

TAKING MONDAY OFF FOR THE MARTIN
LUTHER KING HOLIDAY BEGAN THEIR

LUTHER KING HOLIDAY BEGAN THEIR
WEEK WITH A JOINT MEETING OF THE

WEEK WITH A JOINT MEETING OF THE
TWO BUDGET COMMITTEES, HOUSE AND

TWO BUDGET COMMITTEES, HOUSE AND
SENATE, AND THEY HEARD IN THE

SENATE, AND THEY HEARD IN THE
JOINT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET

JOINT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET
COMMITTEE.

COMMITTEE.
BASICALLY, THEIR ACCOUNTANTS AN

BASICALLY, THEIR ACCOUNTANTS AN
BOOKKEEPERS ON THE JLBC'S

BOOKKEEPERS ON THE JLBC'S
ESTIMATE FOR WHAT THE FINANCIAL

ESTIMATE FOR WHAT THE FINANCIAL
PICTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE

PICTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE
COMING FEW YEARS.

COMING FEW YEARS.
AND IT SETS UP OUR FIRST BIG

AND IT SETS UP OUR FIRST BIG
DEBATE OF THE LEGISLATIVE

DEBATE OF THE LEGISLATIVE
SESSION BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE

SESSION BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE
AND THE GOVERNOR.

AND THE GOVERNOR.
THE GOVERNOR AND HER BUDGET

THE GOVERNOR AND HER BUDGET
PROJECTS OUT THREE YEARS TO

PROJECTS OUT THREE YEARS TO
FISCAL 2017.

FISCAL 2017.
AND SHE'S PROJECTING ABOUT

AND SHE'S PROJECTING ABOUT
$400 MILLION IN SURPLUS IN 2017.

$400 MILLION IN SURPLUS IN 2017.
THE JLBC CAME BACK AND PROJECTED

THE JLBC CAME BACK AND PROJECTED
OUT THREE YEARS AND SAID THIS

OUT THREE YEARS AND SAID THIS
COMING FISCAL YEAR WE'RE FINE.

COMING FISCAL YEAR WE'RE FINE.
NEXT YEAR, ZERO -- IT IT'S A DE

NEXT YEAR, ZERO -- IT IT'S A DE
BALANCED BUDGET AND FOR 2017 A

BALANCED BUDGET AND FOR 2017 A
$600 MILLION SHORT FALL.

$600 MILLION SHORT FALL.
>> PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAP.

>> PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GAP.
WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?

WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?
>> THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP.

>> THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP.
THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE PUT

THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE PUT
TOGETHER IS A LITTLE BIT OF

TOGETHER IS A LITTLE BIT OF
GUESS WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE

GUESS WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE
FORECASTING WHAT WILL HAPPEN

FORECASTING WHAT WILL HAPPEN
OVER THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS.

OVER THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS.
THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN USES SOME

THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN USES SOME
INCREASES IN REVENUE, TAX

INCREASES IN REVENUE, TAX
COLLECTIONS.

COLLECTIONS.
SHE IS NOT CALLING FOR AN

SHE IS NOT CALLING FOR AN
INCREASE IN TAXES BUT AS THE

INCREASE IN TAXES BUT AS THE
ECONOMY IMPROVES, MORE TAXES ARE

ECONOMY IMPROVES, MORE TAXES ARE
GETTING PAID.

GETTING PAID.
SHE ALSO HAS LESS SPENDING

SHE ALSO HAS LESS SPENDING
PROJECTED OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW

PROJECTED OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS THAN THE JLBC DOES.

YEARS THAN THE JLBC DOES.
THE JLBC BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER

THE JLBC BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER
BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS

BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS
AND IT'S A COMPILATION INCLUDING

AND IT'S A COMPILATION INCLUDING
SOME PROFESSORS AT THE

SOME PROFESSORS AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.

UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.
SO LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF

SO LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF
NUMBERS.

NUMBERS.
>> ARE WE LIKELY TO SEE THE

>> ARE WE LIKELY TO SEE THE
LEGISLATURE TAKE ANY MONEY FROM

LEGISLATURE TAKE ANY MONEY FROM
THE AREAS THAT THE GOVERNOR

THE AREAS THAT THE GOVERNOR
WANTED TO PUMP MORE MONEY INTO,

WANTED TO PUMP MORE MONEY INTO,
FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT USED TO BE

FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT USED TO BE
CPS?

CPS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS THE INTERESTING DEBATE.

THIS IS THE INTERESTING DEBATE.
ONCE THEY SETTLE ON HOW MUCH

ONCE THEY SETTLE ON HOW MUCH
MONEY THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH,

MONEY THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH,
THEY'LL BEGIN CRAFTING THE

THEY'LL BEGIN CRAFTING THE
BUDGET.

BUDGET.
THE LEGISLATURE IS UNDER NO

THE LEGISLATURE IS UNDER NO
OBLIGATION TO DO WHAT THE

OBLIGATION TO DO WHAT THE
GOVERNOR WANTS AND THERE'S

GOVERNOR WANTS AND THERE'S
PLENTY OF HISTORIC PRECEDENT FOR

PLENTY OF HISTORIC PRECEDENT FOR
A LEGISLATURE DOING EXACTLY WHAT

A LEGISLATURE DOING EXACTLY WHAT
THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T WANT.

THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T WANT.
IT'S UP TO THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN

IT'S UP TO THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN
IT AND THAT'S WHEN THE REAL

IT AND THAT'S WHEN THE REAL
NEGOTIATION BEGINS BETWEEN THE

NEGOTIATION BEGINS BETWEEN THE
TWO BRANCHS OF GOVERNMENT AND

TWO BRANCHS OF GOVERNMENT AND
YOU GET THE ARGUMENTS BETWEEN

YOU GET THE ARGUMENTS BETWEEN
THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE BEFORE

THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE BEFORE
A FINAL BUDGET IS SENT TO THE

A FINAL BUDGET IS SENT TO THE
BUDGET AND MORE ARGUMENTS

BUDGET AND MORE ARGUMENTS
BEGINS.

BEGINS.
>> IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO

>> IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO
SEE.

SEE.
LET'S MOVE TO ELECTION REFORM,

LET'S MOVE TO ELECTION REFORM,
IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE

IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE
SEEN THIS PAST WEEK, BUT WE'LL

SEEN THIS PAST WEEK, BUT WE'LL
LOOK TOWARD NEXT WEEK.

LOOK TOWARD NEXT WEEK.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.
A CONTROVERSIAL BILL ENDED UP IN

A CONTROVERSIAL BILL ENDED UP IN
THE COURT ENDED UP THE SUBJECT

THE COURT ENDED UP THE SUBJECT
OF A PETITION DRIVE THAT'S

OF A PETITION DRIVE THAT'S
GETTING ON THE BALLOT THAT WOULD

GETTING ON THE BALLOT THAT WOULD
PULL BACK OR REPEAL WHAT THE

PULL BACK OR REPEAL WHAT THE
LEGISLATURE DID LAST YEAR.

LEGISLATURE DID LAST YEAR.
WELL, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED IN THE

WELL, PEOPLE ARE WORRIED IN THE
LEGISLATURE ESPECIALLY

LEGISLATURE ESPECIALLY
REPUBLICANS THAT IF VOTERS PASS

REPUBLICANS THAT IF VOTERS PASS
THAT AND REPEAL IT, THERE'S NO

THAT AND REPEAL IT, THERE'S NO
WAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE COULD

WAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE COULD
EVER GO BACK IN AND RETWEAK

EVER GO BACK IN AND RETWEAK
THINGS, AT LEAST FOR A FEW YEARS

THINGS, AT LEAST FOR A FEW YEARS
BECAUSE THIS WAS NOW A CITIZEN

BECAUSE THIS WAS NOW A CITIZEN
INITIATIVE.

INITIATIVE.
WHAT THE LEGISLATURE, THE

WHAT THE LEGISLATURE, THE
REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO DO IS

REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO DO IS
REPEAL THAT LAW NOW THEMSELVES.

REPEAL THAT LAW NOW THEMSELVES.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT IN

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT IN
THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.

THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
REPRESENTATIVE EDDIE FARNSWORTH

REPRESENTATIVE EDDIE FARNSWORTH
WAS SPONSORING IT.

WAS SPONSORING IT.
THE ROOM WAS FULL.

THE ROOM WAS FULL.
EVERYBODY WAS WAITING FOR THE

EVERYBODY WAS WAITING FOR THE
FIGHT.

FIGHT.
HE STARTED THE MEETING AND

HE STARTED THE MEETING AND
ANNOUNCED THAT BILL WAS NOT

ANNOUNCED THAT BILL WAS NOT
BEING HEARD THIS WEEK.

BEING HEARD THIS WEEK.
THE ROOM VERY QUICKLY EMPTIED,

THE ROOM VERY QUICKLY EMPTIED,
FARNSWORTH JOKED ABOUT IT.

FARNSWORTH JOKED ABOUT IT.
THEY SAID THEY'RE STILL WORKING

THEY SAID THEY'RE STILL WORKING
ON THE LANGUAGE.

ON THE LANGUAGE.
>> SO WE'RE GETTING THE --

>> SO WE'RE GETTING THE --
THEY'RE GETTING THEIR DUCKS IN A

THEY'RE GETTING THEIR DUCKS IN A
ROW BEFORE THEY BRING EVERYTHING

ROW BEFORE THEY BRING EVERYTHING
TO THE TABLE.

TO THE TABLE.
>> EXACTLY.

>> EXACTLY.
>> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THANK

>> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THANK
YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.

YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
AGAIN, I SHOULD MENTION YOU WILL

AGAIN, I SHOULD MENTION YOU WILL
BE A REGULAR CONTRIBUTOR HERE ON

BE A REGULAR CONTRIBUTOR HERE ON
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