>>> ARIZONA'S DRY WINTER, WHAT
DOES IT MEAN FOR THE STATE'S
DOES IT MEAN FOR THE STATE'S
RESOURCES?
RESOURCES?
>> WE'RE NOT IN CRISIS.
>> WE'RE NOT IN CRISIS.
AND WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE
AND WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE
THINKING ABOUT THE LONG TERM.
THINKING ABOUT THE LONG TERM.
PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT INVESTING
PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT INVESTING
FOR THE LONG TERM AND PREPARING
FOR THE LONG TERM AND PREPARING
SO THAT WE AVOID THAT CRISIS.
SO THAT WE AVOID THAT CRISIS.
>> FARMERS AND RANCHERS CRUISE
>> FARMERS AND RANCHERS CRUISE
THE MOST WATER IN THE STATE.
THE MOST WATER IN THE STATE.
HOW THEIR EFFORTS AFFECT THE
HOW THEIR EFFORTS AFFECT THE
FOOD SUPPLY FROM REGIONAL TO
FOOD SUPPLY FROM REGIONAL TO
NATIONAL LEVELS.
NATIONAL LEVELS.
>> WE HAVE ENOUGH RANCHERS IN
>> WE HAVE ENOUGH RANCHERS IN
ARIZONA AND WE FEED ALMOST -- WE
ARIZONA AND WE FEED ALMOST -- WE
FEED OVER 4.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN
FEED OVER 4.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN
THE BEEF PRODUCTION IN AMERICA.
THE BEEF PRODUCTION IN AMERICA.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
>> THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
>>> HERE IN ARIZONA, THERE ARE
AN ESTIMATED 15,000 RANCHING AND
AN ESTIMATED 15,000 RANCHING AND
FARMING FAMILIES.
FARMING FAMILIES.
AGRICULTURE IN THE STATE USES
AGRICULTURE IN THE STATE USES
70% OF WATER RESOURCES.
70% OF WATER RESOURCES.
STEPHANIE SMALLHOUSE, VICE
STEPHANIE SMALLHOUSE, VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE FARM BUREAU,
PRESIDENT OF THE FARM BUREAU,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> NO PROBLEM, THANK YOU.
>> NO PROBLEM, THANK YOU.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW
AGRICULTURE TENDS TO USE THE
AGRICULTURE TENDS TO USE THE
MOST WATER IN THE STATE OF
MOST WATER IN THE STATE OF
ARIZONA.
ARIZONA.
YOU'RE A FARMER, YOU'RE A
YOU'RE A FARMER, YOU'RE A
RANCHER.
RANCHER.
YOU CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR USE OUT
YOU CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR USE OUT
HERE ON YOUR PROPERTY?
HERE ON YOUR PROPERTY?
>> WELL, I THINK FARMERS AND
>> WELL, I THINK FARMERS AND
RANCHERS ARE CONCERNED AIR THEIR
RANCHERS ARE CONCERNED AIR THEIR
USE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE
USE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE
HAVE TO MANAGE.
HAVE TO MANAGE.
I GUESS THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
I GUESS THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
GENERALLY REALIZE OR UNDERSTAND
GENERALLY REALIZE OR UNDERSTAND
THAT IT TAKES WATER TO MAKE
THAT IT TAKES WATER TO MAKE
FOOD.
FOOD.
SO THERE'S NOT ANOTHER WAY -- WE
SO THERE'S NOT ANOTHER WAY -- WE
HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT A WAY TO
HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT A WAY TO
MAKE IT DIFFERENTLY.
MAKE IT DIFFERENTLY.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS COGNIZANT OF HOW
SO WE'RE ALWAYS COGNIZANT OF HOW
MUCH WE'RE USING ON OUR PLACE.
MUCH WE'RE USING ON OUR PLACE.
THIS IS OUR SIXTH GENERATION
THIS IS OUR SIXTH GENERATION
WITH MY KIDS SO WE HAVE SPENT
WITH MY KIDS SO WE HAVE SPENT
THAT ENTIRE TIME TRYING TO BE
THAT ENTIRE TIME TRYING TO BE
PROGRESSIVE.
PROGRESSIVE.
AND USE TECHNOLOGY TO SAVE
AND USE TECHNOLOGY TO SAVE
WATER.
WATER.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE
HAVE BEEN DOING.
HAVE BEEN DOING.
>> WE'RE IN A DROUGHT, BUT IT
>> WE'RE IN A DROUGHT, BUT IT
COULD BE SAID THAT ARIZONA IS
COULD BE SAID THAT ARIZONA IS
ALWAYS IN A DROUGHT BECAUSE
ALWAYS IN A DROUGHT BECAUSE
WE'RE IN THE DESERT.
WE'RE IN THE DESERT.
HOW DO YOU MANAGE?
HOW DO YOU MANAGE?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T
OUR FIRST DROUGHT.
OUR FIRST DROUGHT.
WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE
WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE
1884, WE HAVE SEEN AT LEAST FOUR
1884, WE HAVE SEEN AT LEAST FOUR
SIGNIFICANT DROUGHTS IN OUR
SIGNIFICANT DROUGHTS IN OUR
WRITTEN HISTORY AND YOU MANAGE
WRITTEN HISTORY AND YOU MANAGE
BY PLANNING AHEAD.
BY PLANNING AHEAD.
WE PRETTY MUCH EXPECT THAT AT
WE PRETTY MUCH EXPECT THAT AT
SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
GOING TO BE IN A DROUGHT OR
GOING TO BE IN A DROUGHT OR
WE'LL HAVE A DRY YEAR.
WE'LL HAVE A DRY YEAR.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GROWING THINGS
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GROWING THINGS
YEAR ROUND EVERY YEAR SO WE HAVE
YEAR ROUND EVERY YEAR SO WE HAVE
TO MANAGE AND PLAN EVERY SINGLE
TO MANAGE AND PLAN EVERY SINGLE
YEAR.
YEAR.
SO IT'S A PART OF LIFE FOR US.
SO IT'S A PART OF LIFE FOR US.
>> DO YOU WORRY ABOUT THE WATER
>> DO YOU WORRY ABOUT THE WATER
RESOURCES IN THE STATE IMPACTING
RESOURCES IN THE STATE IMPACTING
YOUR ABILITY TO SURVIVE OUT HERE
YOUR ABILITY TO SURVIVE OUT HERE
AND THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL A
AND THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL A
BUSINESS FOR YOU?
BUSINESS FOR YOU?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DO WORRY
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DO WORRY
ABOUT HOW PEOPLE DEAL WITH THE
ABOUT HOW PEOPLE DEAL WITH THE
DROUGHT.
DROUGHT.
YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T DO YOU ANY
YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T DO YOU ANY
GOOD TO FRET ABOUT THE DROUGHT.
GOOD TO FRET ABOUT THE DROUGHT.
WE CAN'T MAKE IT RAIN, BUT WHAT
WE CAN'T MAKE IT RAIN, BUT WHAT
I WORRY ABOUT IS HOW PEOPLE WILL
I WORRY ABOUT IS HOW PEOPLE WILL
REACT TO IT.
REACT TO IT.
IF YOU MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON
IF YOU MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON
FEAR INSTEAD OF ON FACTS, THAT'S
FEAR INSTEAD OF ON FACTS, THAT'S
WHEN THAT CAN HAVE A REAL IMPACT
WHEN THAT CAN HAVE A REAL IMPACT
ON US BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE
ON US BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE
FOOD.
FOOD.
JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN
JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN
OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE THAT
OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE THAT
ARE GROWING CROPS AS WELL.
ARE GROWING CROPS AS WELL.
PEOPLE TEND TO PANIC AND BECAUSE
PEOPLE TEND TO PANIC AND BECAUSE
AGRICULTURE USES A SIGNIFICANT
AGRICULTURE USES A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF WATER, WE TEND TO HAVE
AMOUNT OF WATER, WE TEND TO HAVE
THE FINGERS POINTED AT US FIRST.
THE FINGERS POINTED AT US FIRST.
AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST A
AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST A
MATTER OF US TAKING THE TIME AND
MATTER OF US TAKING THE TIME AND
OPPORTUNITY TO LET PEOPLE
OPPORTUNITY TO LET PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND, YEAH, WE USE WATER
UNDERSTAND, YEAH, WE USE WATER
BUT WE HAVE TO TO GROW FOOD.
BUT WE HAVE TO TO GROW FOOD.
ARIZONA IS A SIGNIFICANT
ARIZONA IS A SIGNIFICANT
PRODUCER OF FOOD FOR THE STATE
PRODUCER OF FOOD FOR THE STATE
AND THE COUNTRY, OBVIOUSLY.
AND THE COUNTRY, OBVIOUSLY.
SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, OH, WE
SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, OH, WE
CAN TAKE THE WATER AWAY FROM THE
CAN TAKE THE WATER AWAY FROM THE
FARMERS AND USE IT FOR THE
FARMERS AND USE IT FOR THE
CITIES.
CITIES.
YOU KNOW, AGRICULTURE IS NOT A
YOU KNOW, AGRICULTURE IS NOT A
WATER BANK.
WATER BANK.
WE'RE A FOOD SOURCE.
WE'RE A FOOD SOURCE.
SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MANAGE
SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MANAGE
FOR THE FUTURE AND PRACTICE
FOR THE FUTURE AND PRACTICE
CONSERVATION.
CONSERVATION.
AND I THINK IF WE CONTINUE TO DO
AND I THINK IF WE CONTINUE TO DO
THAT AND WE TELL PEOPLE THAT
THAT AND WE TELL PEOPLE THAT
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AND
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AND
EXPLAIN TO THEM, YOU KNOW, THE
EXPLAIN TO THEM, YOU KNOW, THE
ACTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING THEN
ACTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING THEN
HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL USE THAT
HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL USE THAT
INFORMATION TO MAKE GOOD
INFORMATION TO MAKE GOOD
DECISIONS.
DECISIONS.
>> WHAT DON'T PEOPLE -- THE
>> WHAT DON'T PEOPLE -- THE
AVERAGE ARIZONIAN MAYBE KNOW
AVERAGE ARIZONIAN MAYBE KNOW
ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
CATTLE RANCHING AND FARMING IN
CATTLE RANCHING AND FARMING IN
THE STATE OF ARIZONA?
THE STATE OF ARIZONA?
IS IT A HEALTHY PICTURE RIGHT
IS IT A HEALTHY PICTURE RIGHT
NOW?
NOW?
IS IT IN TROUBLE?
IS IT IN TROUBLE?
>> NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN
>> NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN
TROUBLE AT ALL.
TROUBLE AT ALL.
IT'S -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A
IT'S -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A
VERY GOOD CONDITION RIGHT NOW.
VERY GOOD CONDITION RIGHT NOW.
THE BEEF MARKET IS DOING WELL.
THE BEEF MARKET IS DOING WELL.
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THINGS OUT
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THINGS OUT
OF OUT OF CONTROL LIKE THE
OF OUT OF CONTROL LIKE THE
WEATHER.
WEATHER.
YOU CAN'T FRET ABOUT THAT, BUT
YOU CAN'T FRET ABOUT THAT, BUT
YOU HAVE TO MANAGE THROUGH THAT.
YOU HAVE TO MANAGE THROUGH THAT.
THE AGRICULTURE INDUSTRY IS VERY
THE AGRICULTURE INDUSTRY IS VERY
STRONG.
STRONG.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS
AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS
BECAUSE WE HAVE GROWN UP SO TO
BECAUSE WE HAVE GROWN UP SO TO
SPEAK AS AN INDUSTRY IN ARIZONA.
SPEAK AS AN INDUSTRY IN ARIZONA.
PLANNING FOR THE WORST AND
PLANNING FOR THE WORST AND
HOPING FOR THE BEST.
HOPING FOR THE BEST.
AND SO THAT MEANS WHEN THAT'S
AND SO THAT MEANS WHEN THAT'S
WATER SHORTAGES, YOU KNOW, YOU
WATER SHORTAGES, YOU KNOW, YOU
LOOK AT THE FORETHOUGHT OF OUR
LOOK AT THE FORETHOUGHT OF OUR
ANCESTORS THAT FIRST CAME TO
ANCESTORS THAT FIRST CAME TO
ARIZONA IN DOING THE C.A.P.
ARIZONA IN DOING THE C.A.P.
CANAL AND THINKING OF
CANAL AND THINKING OF
GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES.
GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES.
YOU THINK IN THE ABOUT 80s WHEN
YOU THINK IN THE ABOUT 80s WHEN
EVERYONE CAME TOGETHER AND
EVERYONE CAME TOGETHER AND
MANAGED THE WATER IN ARIZONA.
MANAGED THE WATER IN ARIZONA.
A LOT OF STATES HAVEN'T DONE
A LOT OF STATES HAVEN'T DONE
THAT.
THAT.
AND AGRICULTURE HAS BEEN A BIG
AND AGRICULTURE HAS BEEN A BIG
PART OF THAT.
PART OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, AS A PRIMARY PRIVATE
YOU KNOW, AS A PRIMARY PRIVATE
LAND HOLDER AND A PRIMARY WATER
LAND HOLDER AND A PRIMARY WATER
USER.
USER.
SO I THINK BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS
SO I THINK BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS
PROACTIVE WE'RE GOING TO BE
PROACTIVE WE'RE GOING TO BE
HEALTHY.
HEALTHY.
AS LONG AS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY
AS LONG AS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY
WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND
WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND
HOW WE DO IT.
HOW WE DO IT.
WE HAVE ENOUGH RANCHERS IN
WE HAVE ENOUGH RANCHERS IN
ARIZONA AND BEEF PRODUCTION
ARIZONA AND BEEF PRODUCTION
HERE.
HERE.
WE FEED OVER 4.5 MILLION PEOPLE
WE FEED OVER 4.5 MILLION PEOPLE
JUST WITH THE BEEF PRODUCTION IN
JUST WITH THE BEEF PRODUCTION IN
ARIZONA.
ARIZONA.
WE PRODUCE ENOUGH COTTON IN
WE PRODUCE ENOUGH COTTON IN
ARIZONA TO PUT A PAIR OF PANTS
ARIZONA TO PUT A PAIR OF PANTS
ON EVERYONE IN THE UNITED
ON EVERYONE IN THE UNITED
STATES.
STATES.
TO SAY WE NEED THE WATER, WELL,
TO SAY WE NEED THE WATER, WELL,
YOU'RE AFFECTING YOUR FOOD AND
YOU'RE AFFECTING YOUR FOOD AND
FINER.
FINER.
PEOPLE ARE FINE WITH HAVING
PEOPLE ARE FINE WITH HAVING
EVERYTHING IN THEIR LIVING ROOM
EVERYTHING IN THEIR LIVING ROOM
MADE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.
MADE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.
BUT WHEN THEY OPEN THE
BUT WHEN THEY OPEN THE
REFRIGERATOR THEY DON'T WANT
REFRIGERATOR THEY DON'T WANT
THEIR FOOD TO BE FROM ANOTHER
THEIR FOOD TO BE FROM ANOTHER
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS TRY TO
THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS TRY TO
EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE.
EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE.
WE DON'T THINK ABOUT OUR FOOD IN
WE DON'T THINK ABOUT OUR FOOD IN
TERMS OF WHAT IT TAKES TO
TERMS OF WHAT IT TAKES TO
SUPPORT THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE
SUPPORT THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE
GROWING IT.
GROWING IT.
AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS WHEN
AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS WHEN
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER,
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER,
ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA, IS WE
ESPECIALLY IN ARIZONA, IS WE
NEED TO BE PART OF THE
NEED TO BE PART OF THE
CONVERSATION.
CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, FARMERS AND RANCHERS
YOU KNOW, FARMERS AND RANCHERS
NEED TO BE PART OF THE
NEED TO BE PART OF THE
CONVERSATION.
CONVERSATION.
WHEN IT COMES TO WATER
WHEN IT COMES TO WATER
CONSERVATION AND THINGBES LIKE
CONSERVATION AND THINGBES LIKE
THAT.
THAT.
IF WE'RE NOT, THEN WE WON'T BE
IF WE'RE NOT, THEN WE WON'T BE
ABLE TO GROW FOOD.
ABLE TO GROW FOOD.
>> SMALLHOUSE SAYS HER RANCH
>> SMALLHOUSE SAYS HER RANCH
USED TO SHIP FOUR LOADS OF
USED TO SHIP FOUR LOADS OF
CATTLE EVERY YEAR, BUT BECAUSE
CATTLE EVERY YEAR, BUT BECAUSE
OF THE DROUGHT THEY HAVE REDUCED
OF THE DROUGHT THEY HAVE REDUCED
THE SHIPMENTS IN HALF AS
THE SHIPMENTS IN HALF AS
IRRIGATING THEIR 65,000 ACRES
IRRIGATING THEIR 65,000 ACRES
HAS PRESENTED A CHALLENGE.
HAS PRESENTED A CHALLENGE.
STEPHANIE, WHERE DOES CARLINK
STEPHANIE, WHERE DOES CARLINK
RANCH GET ITS WATER FROM?
RANCH GET ITS WATER FROM?
>> THE MAJORITY OF THE WATER
>> THE MAJORITY OF THE WATER
THAT WE USE IS GROUNDWATER.
THAT WE USE IS GROUNDWATER.
WE HAVE AN OLD SURFACE WATER
WE HAVE AN OLD SURFACE WATER
RIGHT THAT WE USE AND WE HAVE
RIGHT THAT WE USE AND WE HAVE
HAD IT SINCE THE 1880s, BUT THE
HAD IT SINCE THE 1880s, BUT THE
RIVER HAS TO BE RUNNING TO USE
RIVER HAS TO BE RUNNING TO USE
THAT.
THAT.
SO MOST OF THE WATER IS PUMPED
SO MOST OF THE WATER IS PUMPED
OUT OF THE GROUND.
OUT OF THE GROUND.
>> WHEN IT DOESN'T RAIN, ARE YOU
>> WHEN IT DOESN'T RAIN, ARE YOU
WORRIED?
WORRIED?
>> OH, SURE.
>> OH, SURE.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST RACE AROUND TO
YOU KNOW, WE JUST RACE AROUND TO
PLANT ONE OF OUR FIELDS RIGHT
PLANT ONE OF OUR FIELDS RIGHT
BEFORE THAT RAIN STORM HIT A FEW
BEFORE THAT RAIN STORM HIT A FEW
DAYS AGO BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WE
DAYS AGO BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WE
WERE GOING TO GET BASICALLY
WERE GOING TO GET BASICALLY
INEXPENSIVE WATER TO COME OUT OF
INEXPENSIVE WATER TO COME OUT OF
THE SKY.
THE SKY.
IT COSTS MONEY TO PUMP IT OUT OF
IT COSTS MONEY TO PUMP IT OUT OF
THE GROUND.
THE GROUND.
WE WATCH THE WELL FLUCTUATION,
WE WATCH THE WELL FLUCTUATION,
SO WE MIGHT CHANGE UP A CROP,
SO WE MIGHT CHANGE UP A CROP,
FALLOW A FIELD.
FALLOW A FIELD.
BUT I MEAN, WE'RE CONCERNED.
BUT I MEAN, WE'RE CONCERNED.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE WATER.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE WATER.
ANY CHANGES IS A CONCERN.
ANY CHANGES IS A CONCERN.
>> AND HOW IS THE WATER
>> AND HOW IS THE WATER
DISTRIBUTED ON THIS FARM ON THIS
DISTRIBUTED ON THIS FARM ON THIS
RANCH?
RANCH?
>> IT IS THROUGH PIPE LINES.
>> IT IS THROUGH PIPE LINES.
WE HAVE WATER EVERY TWO MILES ON
WE HAVE WATER EVERY TWO MILES ON
THE RANGE WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR
THE RANGE WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR
RANGE MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT
RANGE MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT
MEANS THAT THE CATTLE MOVE
MEANS THAT THE CATTLE MOVE
RAPIDLY.
RAPIDLY.
WE HAVE WATER EVERY TWO MILES ON
WE HAVE WATER EVERY TWO MILES ON
THE RANCH AND THEN DOWN HERE
THE RANCH AND THEN DOWN HERE
EVERYTHING IS PIPED.
EVERYTHING IS PIPED.
>> THIS IS A CENTER PIVOT, THIS
>> THIS IS A CENTER PIVOT, THIS
IS WHAT YOU HOPE IS THE
IS WHAT YOU HOPE IS THE
LONG-TERM PICTURE FOR THE
LONG-TERM PICTURE FOR THE
FUTURE.
FUTURE.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY.
THIS PIVOT RIGHT HERE WE HAVE
THIS PIVOT RIGHT HERE WE HAVE
CONVERTED PROBABLY ABOUT 350
CONVERTED PROBABLY ABOUT 350
ACRES TO PIVOT RIGHT NOW.
ACRES TO PIVOT RIGHT NOW.
EARLIER WE WERE OVER BY A SIDE
EARLIER WE WERE OVER BY A SIDE
ROLE SPRINKLER AND SO OVER THE
ROLE SPRINKLER AND SO OVER THE
LAST 30 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN
LAST 30 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN
TRANSITIONING TO NEWER
TRANSITIONING TO NEWER
TECHNOLOGY.
TECHNOLOGY.
THIS PIVOT RIGHT HERE IS 90%
THIS PIVOT RIGHT HERE IS 90%
EFFICIENT AND SO BASICALLY WHAT
EFFICIENT AND SO BASICALLY WHAT
THAT MEANS IS THAT FROM THE TIME
THAT MEANS IS THAT FROM THE TIME
WE WERE FLOOD IRRIGATING, WHICH
WE WERE FLOOD IRRIGATING, WHICH
WAS YEARS AGO, WE'RE SAVING
WAS YEARS AGO, WE'RE SAVING
BASICALLY 60% MORE WATER.
BASICALLY 60% MORE WATER.
SO TO US, WE'RE -- YOU KNOW, WE
SO TO US, WE'RE -- YOU KNOW, WE
ARE TRYING TO SHOW PEOPLE, WE'RE
ARE TRYING TO SHOW PEOPLE, WE'RE
TRYING TO BE SMART AND WE NEED
TRYING TO BE SMART AND WE NEED
THIS TO BE AROUND FOR A LONG
THIS TO BE AROUND FOR A LONG
TIME.
TIME.
SO WE'RE PRETTY CAREFUL WITH THE
SO WE'RE PRETTY CAREFUL WITH THE
WATER.
WATER.
>> SPEAKING OF A LONG-TERM
>> SPEAKING OF A LONG-TERM
PICTURE, THIS CARLINK RANCH HAS
PICTURE, THIS CARLINK RANCH HAS
BEEN HERE SINCE 1870.
BEEN HERE SINCE 1870.
YOU PEOPLE ARE TOUGH, YOU HAVE
YOU PEOPLE ARE TOUGH, YOU HAVE
MANAGED TO SURVIVE.
MANAGED TO SURVIVE.
>> WE'RE JUST STUBBORN.
>> WE'RE JUST STUBBORN.
STUBBORN.
STUBBORN.
>> KEEP MOVING FORWARD THOUGH?
>> KEEP MOVING FORWARD THOUGH?
>> SURE.
>> SURE.
EVERYTHING WE DO, EVERYTHING WE
EVERYTHING WE DO, EVERYTHING WE
DO OUT HERE IS SO THAT SOME DAY,
DO OUT HERE IS SO THAT SOME DAY,
YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE SITTING BACK
YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE SITTING BACK
A LITTLE BIT AND OUR KIDS WILL
A LITTLE BIT AND OUR KIDS WILL
BE DOING, YOU KNOW, WORKING OUT
BE DOING, YOU KNOW, WORKING OUT
HERE AND ENJOYING IT.
HERE AND ENJOYING IT.
THEY'LL BE AS PASSIONATE ABOUT
THEY'LL BE AS PASSIONATE ABOUT
IT AS WE ARE.
IT AS WE ARE.
I HAVE A 10-YEAR-OLD AND A
I HAVE A 10-YEAR-OLD AND A
6-YEAR-OLD AND MY 10-YEAR-OLD IS
6-YEAR-OLD AND MY 10-YEAR-OLD IS
MORE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT THAN A
MORE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT THAN A
LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW IN THE
LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW IN THE
BUSINESS ALREADY.
BUSINESS ALREADY.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY ULTIMATE GOAL
SO, YOU KNOW, MY ULTIMATE GOAL
IS NOT TO MAKE HER DO THIS AND
IS NOT TO MAKE HER DO THIS AND
NOT TO MAKE MY SON DO IT.
NOT TO MAKE MY SON DO IT.
BUT TO MAKE -- SO THEY WANT TO
BUT TO MAKE -- SO THEY WANT TO
DO IT.
DO IT.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SEE
AND IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SEE
THAT WE GET REWARD OUT OF THIS,
THAT WE GET REWARD OUT OF THIS,
WHETHER IT'S A LIFESTYLE, AND
WHETHER IT'S A LIFESTYLE, AND
THAT MAKES THEM WANT TO DO IT,
THAT MAKES THEM WANT TO DO IT,
THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO
THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO
MAKE MY HUSBAND AND I HAPPY.
MAKE MY HUSBAND AND I HAPPY.
>> OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST,
>> OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST,
CALIFORNIA, IS IN AN EPIC
CALIFORNIA, IS IN AN EPIC
DROUGHT.
DROUGHT.
ARIZONA MONITORS THE GOLDEN
ARIZONA MONITORS THE GOLDEN
STATE'S WATER RESOURCES BECAUSE
STATE'S WATER RESOURCES BECAUSE
THE TWO STATES SHARE USE OF THE
THE TWO STATES SHARE USE OF THE
COLORADO RIVER.
COLORADO RIVER.
HERE NOW IS ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA
HERE NOW IS ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA
VANESSA BARCHFIELD WITH MICHAEL
VANESSA BARCHFIELD WITH MICHAEL
LACEY.
LACEY.
>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME
>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME
TO SPEAK WITH US TODAY.
TO SPEAK WITH US TODAY.
ACCORDING TO YOUR DEPARTMENT'S
ACCORDING TO YOUR DEPARTMENT'S
STREAMIC -- STRATEGIC VISION FOR
STREAMIC -- STRATEGIC VISION FOR
SUSTAINABILITY, ARIZONA ISN'T
SUSTAINABILITY, ARIZONA ISN'T
FACING AN IMMEDIATE WATER
FACING AN IMMEDIATE WATER
CRISIS.
CRISIS.
WHAT DO YOU DEFINE AS CRISIS?
WHAT DO YOU DEFINE AS CRISIS?
>> THE VISION WAS A LONG-TERM
>> THE VISION WAS A LONG-TERM
LOOK AT SUPPLIES AND DEMANDS.
LOOK AT SUPPLIES AND DEMANDS.
SO THERE MAY BE AREAS IN THE
SO THERE MAY BE AREAS IN THE
STATE THAT HAVE SHORT-TERM
STATE THAT HAVE SHORT-TERM
ISSUES WITH DROUGHT IMPACTING
ISSUES WITH DROUGHT IMPACTING
AVAILABLE SUPPLIES.
AVAILABLE SUPPLIES.
BUT THE VISION WAS REALLY A
BUT THE VISION WAS REALLY A
LARGER LOOK AT SORT OF MORE
LARGER LOOK AT SORT OF MORE
NORMAL AVERAGE CONDITIONS ACROSS
NORMAL AVERAGE CONDITIONS ACROSS
THE STATE.
THE STATE.
THERE ARE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE
THERE ARE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE
IMPACTED, WE'RE IN OUR 14th YEAR
IMPACTED, WE'RE IN OUR 14th YEAR
OF DROUGHT CONDITIONS ACROSS THE
OF DROUGHT CONDITIONS ACROSS THE
STATE.
STATE.
THE LIVESTOCK INDUSTRY FOR
THE LIVESTOCK INDUSTRY FOR
EXAMPLE AND SOME WILDLIFE USES
EXAMPLE AND SOME WILDLIFE USES
HAVE SEEN IMPACTS.
HAVE SEEN IMPACTS.
FROM THESE DROUGHT CONDITIONS.
FROM THESE DROUGHT CONDITIONS.
AND WE'RE EXPERIENCING THOSE
AND WE'RE EXPERIENCING THOSE
TODAY.
TODAY.
>> IS POPULATION GROWTH
>> IS POPULATION GROWTH
OUTPACING WATER SUPPLY ONE OF
OUTPACING WATER SUPPLY ONE OF
THE STATE'S MOST PRESSING WATER
THE STATE'S MOST PRESSING WATER
CHALLENGES?
CHALLENGES?
>> IT'S NOT THE MOST PRESSING
>> IT'S NOT THE MOST PRESSING
WATER CHALLENGE.
WATER CHALLENGE.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE
ON THE HORIZON.
ON THE HORIZON.
IT'S REALLY WHAT THE VISION WAS
IT'S REALLY WHAT THE VISION WAS
ABOUT.
ABOUT.
WAS LOOKING AT GROWTH ASSOCIATED
WAS LOOKING AT GROWTH ASSOCIATED
WITH CONTINUED ECONOMIC GROWTH
WITH CONTINUED ECONOMIC GROWTH
OF THE STATE, THE SUPPLIES THAT
OF THE STATE, THE SUPPLIES THAT
ARE AVAILABLE TO MEET THAT AND
ARE AVAILABLE TO MEET THAT AND
WE DO SEE WHAT WE HAVE
WE DO SEE WHAT WE HAVE
CHARACTERIZED AS AN IMBALANCE
CHARACTERIZED AS AN IMBALANCE
BETWEEN THE AVAILABLE SUPPLIES
BETWEEN THE AVAILABLE SUPPLIES
AND DEMANDS AS WE LOOK INTO THE
AND DEMANDS AS WE LOOK INTO THE
FUTURE.
FUTURE.
>> YOU MENTIONED ECONOMIC
>> YOU MENTIONED ECONOMIC
GROWTH.
GROWTH.
DO YOU THINK THAT WATER SUPPLY
DO YOU THINK THAT WATER SUPPLY
COULD POTENTIALLY CONSTRAIN
COULD POTENTIALLY CONSTRAIN
ECONOMIC GROWTH GOING FORWARD?
ECONOMIC GROWTH GOING FORWARD?
>> IF WE DO NOTHING WE WILL --
>> IF WE DO NOTHING WE WILL --
THERE ARE LAWS AND RULES THAT WE
THERE ARE LAWS AND RULES THAT WE
MANAGE THAT WILL ACTUALLY
MANAGE THAT WILL ACTUALLY
CONSTRAIN GROWTH.
CONSTRAIN GROWTH.
THOSE CONSTRAINTS ARE ALREADY IN
THOSE CONSTRAINTS ARE ALREADY IN
PLACE WITHIN OUR ASSURED AND
PLACE WITHIN OUR ASSURED AND
ADEQUATE SUPPLY RULES.
ADEQUATE SUPPLY RULES.
OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW
OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW
WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES
WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES
BEING ACQUIRED.
BEING ACQUIRED.
>> WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THOSE
>> WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THOSE
ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF WATER?
ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF WATER?
>> ARIZONA HAS BEEN A LEADER IN
>> ARIZONA HAS BEEN A LEADER IN
WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS.
WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS.
AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT
AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT
THOSE EFFORTS CONTINUE AND BE
THOSE EFFORTS CONTINUE AND BE
INCREASED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
INCREASED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE ALSO A LEADER IN THE REUSE
WE'RE ALSO A LEADER IN THE REUSE
OF RECLAIMED WATER.
OF RECLAIMED WATER.
AS WE LOOK AT THE IMBALANCES
AS WE LOOK AT THE IMBALANCES
THAT WE ARE PROJECTING WE THINK
THAT WE ARE PROJECTING WE THINK
WE CAN CUT THOSE IN HALF BY AN
WE CAN CUT THOSE IN HALF BY AN
AGGRESSIVE RECLAIMED WATER REUSE
AGGRESSIVE RECLAIMED WATER REUSE
PROGRAM.
PROGRAM.
BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE LOOKING AT
BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE LOOKING AT
NEEDING TO BRING IN SUPPLIES
NEEDING TO BRING IN SUPPLIES
FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE IN ORDER
FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE IN ORDER
TO CONTINUE -- CONTINUE TO MEET
TO CONTINUE -- CONTINUE TO MEET
OUR DEMANDS, OUR PROJECTED
OUR DEMANDS, OUR PROJECTED
DEMANDS.
DEMANDS.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SEA WATER
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SEA WATER
DESALINATION AS WHAT WE THINK --
DESALINATION AS WHAT WE THINK --
SORT OF WHAT WE CHARACTERIZE AS
SORT OF WHAT WE CHARACTERIZE AS
THE NEXT BUCKET FOR ARIZONA.
THE NEXT BUCKET FOR ARIZONA.
>> DESALINATION IS OF COURSE
>> DESALINATION IS OF COURSE
VERY PRICEY.
VERY PRICEY.
WHERE DO YOU SEE THE FUNDS
WHERE DO YOU SEE THE FUNDS
COMING FROM?
COMING FROM?
>> IT IS GOING TO BE AN
>> IT IS GOING TO BE AN
EXPENSIVE SUPPLY, BUT AS YOU
EXPENSIVE SUPPLY, BUT AS YOU
LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN THE
LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN THE
GREATER SCHEME OF THINGS WE
GREATER SCHEME OF THINGS WE
SPEND MONEY ON, WE DON'T THINK
SPEND MONEY ON, WE DON'T THINK
IT'S AFFORDABLE AND WE THINK THE
IT'S AFFORDABLE AND WE THINK THE
GROWTH THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED
GROWTH THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED
WITH IT AND THE PROSPERITY WILL
WITH IT AND THE PROSPERITY WILL
BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO
BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO
OVERCOME THOSE EXPENSES.
OVERCOME THOSE EXPENSES.
>> YOU MENTIONED CONSERVATION AS
>> YOU MENTIONED CONSERVATION AS
WELL.
WELL.
DO YOU EXPECT THE END USERS WILL
DO YOU EXPECT THE END USERS WILL
FEEL THE EFFECTS OF MORE
FEEL THE EFFECTS OF MORE
CONSERVATION MEASURES IN THE
CONSERVATION MEASURES IN THE
COMING YEARS?
COMING YEARS?
>> YEAH, THE STATE'S DEVELOPED
>> YEAH, THE STATE'S DEVELOPED
KIND OF A CONSERVATION ETHIC AND
KIND OF A CONSERVATION ETHIC AND
INCREASING THOSE EFFORTS WILL BE
INCREASING THOSE EFFORTS WILL BE
NECESSARY.
NECESSARY.
WE ALSO MAY SEE SHORT TERM
WE ALSO MAY SEE SHORT TERM
DROUGHT CONDITIONS RESULTING IN
DROUGHT CONDITIONS RESULTING IN
REDUCED WATER DELIVERIES
REDUCED WATER DELIVERIES
AND CONSERVATION LISTEN A BIG
AND CONSERVATION LISTEN A BIG
PART OF HOW WE RESPOND TO THOSE
PART OF HOW WE RESPOND TO THOSE
REDUCED DELIVERIES.
REDUCED DELIVERIES.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT A TOILET TO
>> DO YOU THINK THAT A TOILET TO
C.A.P. PROJECT IS INEVITABLE TO
C.A.P. PROJECT IS INEVITABLE TO
ARIZONA?
ARIZONA?
>> WE THINK REUSING EVERY DROP
>> WE THINK REUSING EVERY DROP
OF WATER IS AN ECONOMICALLY
OF WATER IS AN ECONOMICALLY
VIABLE THING FOR US TO DO AND
VIABLE THING FOR US TO DO AND
WILL ALLOW US TO REDUCE THE
WILL ALLOW US TO REDUCE THE
COSTS ON THE SEA WATER
COSTS ON THE SEA WATER
DESALINATION OPTION.
DESALINATION OPTION.
SO WE CAN IMPORT LESS WATER THAN
SO WE CAN IMPORT LESS WATER THAN
IS NECESSARY.
IS NECESSARY.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE DIRECT
BUT WE ALSO HAVE DIRECT
POTABLE -- WHICH IS A GENTLER
POTABLE -- WHICH IS A GENTLER
WAY TO SAY THAT THE TOILET TO
WAY TO SAY THAT THE TOILET TO
TAP ALTERNATIVE, WE HAVE PUT
TAP ALTERNATIVE, WE HAVE PUT
THAT ON THE TABLE AND WE ARE
THAT ON THE TABLE AND WE ARE
SUGGESTING TO WORK ON THAT.
SUGGESTING TO WORK ON THAT.
>> RECYCLED WATER IS OFTEN
>> RECYCLED WATER IS OFTEN
ACTUALLY CLEANER THAN WATER FROM
ACTUALLY CLEANER THAN WATER FROM
OTHER SOURCES.
OTHER SOURCES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE
WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE
TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC TO ACCEPT
TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC TO ACCEPT
IT?
IT?
>> THE KEY IS GOING TO BE A
>> THE KEY IS GOING TO BE A
FOCUS ON THE QUALITY OF THE
FOCUS ON THE QUALITY OF THE
SUPPLY THAT'S BEING DELIVERED AS
SUPPLY THAT'S BEING DELIVERED AS
OPPOSED TO WHAT PATH IT TOOK TO
OPPOSED TO WHAT PATH IT TOOK TO
GET TO THE TAP.
GET TO THE TAP.
>> TO MANAGE THE DROUGHT, CITIES
>> TO MANAGE THE DROUGHT, CITIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE HAVE
THROUGHOUT THE STATE HAVE
HARVESTING PROGRAMS FOR THEIR
HARVESTING PROGRAMS FOR THEIR
CUSTOMERS.
CUSTOMERS.
PROGRAMS THAT OFFER INSENTIVES.
PROGRAMS THAT OFFER INSENTIVES.
HERE IS ALEXANDRA SALAZAR.
HERE IS ALEXANDRA SALAZAR.
>> WELL, YOU CAN SEE I'M SMILING
>> WELL, YOU CAN SEE I'M SMILING
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW.
I LOVE TO GARDEN.
I LOVE TO GARDEN.
I GET A TREMENDOUS -- A
I GET A TREMENDOUS -- A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENJOYMENT
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENJOYMENT
OUT OF GARDENING.
OUT OF GARDENING.
>> SOME MIGHT SAY IT'S UNUSUAL
>> SOME MIGHT SAY IT'S UNUSUAL
BUT NOT THIS MAN.
BUT NOT THIS MAN.
HE'S BEEN HARVESTING RAINWATER
HE'S BEEN HARVESTING RAINWATER
FOR FIVE YEARS.
FOR FIVE YEARS.
>> THIS IS A 5,000 GALLON TANK.
>> THIS IS A 5,000 GALLON TANK.
IT'S ALMOST 12 FEET IN DIAMETER.
IT'S ALMOST 12 FEET IN DIAMETER.
SEVEN FEET TALL AND WE HAVE IN
SEVEN FEET TALL AND WE HAVE IN
OUR HOUSE ABOUT 3,500 SQUARE
OUR HOUSE ABOUT 3,500 SQUARE
FEET OF ROOF WHERE THAT -- WHERE
FEET OF ROOF WHERE THAT -- WHERE
I COULD CAPTURE THE WATER.
I COULD CAPTURE THE WATER.
AND WHAT THAT TRANSLATES IS FOR
AND WHAT THAT TRANSLATES IS FOR
EVERY INCH OF RAIN THAT WE HAVE,
EVERY INCH OF RAIN THAT WE HAVE,
I CAN PUT APPROXIMATELY 2,000
I CAN PUT APPROXIMATELY 2,000
GALLONS INTO THE CISTERN TANK.
GALLONS INTO THE CISTERN TANK.
>> THE RETIRED ACCOUNTANT WANTS
>> THE RETIRED ACCOUNTANT WANTS
TO SEE TUCSONANS GET MORE
TO SEE TUCSONANS GET MORE
INVOLVED IN WATER CONSERVATION.
INVOLVED IN WATER CONSERVATION.
>> I TRULY BELIEVE IN WATER
>> I TRULY BELIEVE IN WATER
HARVESTING.
HARVESTING.
I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO
I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO
DO.
DO.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR STATE,
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR STATE,
OUR COUNTIES, OUR GOVERNMENTS,
OUR COUNTIES, OUR GOVERNMENTS,
WHEREVER THEY ARE, TO DO MORE
WHEREVER THEY ARE, TO DO MORE
AND MORE -- CREATE MORE AND MORE
AND MORE -- CREATE MORE AND MORE
INCENTIVES AND TRY AND HAVE MORE
INCENTIVES AND TRY AND HAVE MORE
AND MORE PEOPLE HARVESTING
AND MORE PEOPLE HARVESTING
WATER.
WATER.
MUCH OF THE WATER GETS WASTED.
MUCH OF THE WATER GETS WASTED.
WE GET THE HEAVY RAINS AND IT
WE GET THE HEAVY RAINS AND IT
GOES DOWN.
GOES DOWN.
YES, A FARMER POSSIBLY DOWN
YES, A FARMER POSSIBLY DOWN
SANTA CRUZ RIVER MIGHT GET THE
SANTA CRUZ RIVER MIGHT GET THE
BENEFIT OF IT.
BENEFIT OF IT.
BUT A LOT BECOMES A RUNOFF.
BUT A LOT BECOMES A RUNOFF.
>> THIS IS THE PUBLIC
>> THIS IS THE PUBLIC
INFORMATION OFFICER FOR TUCSON
INFORMATION OFFICER FOR TUCSON
WATER AND HE SAID TUCSON WON'T
WATER AND HE SAID TUCSON WON'T
HAVE A WATER SHORTAGE ANY TIME
HAVE A WATER SHORTAGE ANY TIME
SOON.
SOON.
>> YOU KNOW, TUCSON WATER HAS
>> YOU KNOW, TUCSON WATER HAS
DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB LOOKING
DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB LOOKING
TO THE FUTURE.
TO THE FUTURE.
AND SO WE FIND OURSELVES TODAY
AND SO WE FIND OURSELVES TODAY
IN 2014 REALLY BENEFITING FROM
IN 2014 REALLY BENEFITING FROM
THE PLANNING THAT STARTED 20 AND
THE PLANNING THAT STARTED 20 AND
30 YEARS AGO.
30 YEARS AGO.
SO WE'VE DEVELOPED ADEQUATE
SO WE'VE DEVELOPED ADEQUATE
RENEWABLE WATER SUPPLIES WELL
RENEWABLE WATER SUPPLIES WELL
INTO THE FUTURE.
INTO THE FUTURE.
SO WE'RE USING OUR COLORADO
SO WE'RE USING OUR COLORADO
RIVER WATER.
RIVER WATER.
>> MOLINA SAYS MUCH OF ARIZONA
>> MOLINA SAYS MUCH OF ARIZONA
GETS ITS WATER FROM THE CENTRAL
GETS ITS WATER FROM THE CENTRAL
ARIZONA PROJECT.
ARIZONA PROJECT.
>> THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
>> THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
RESOURCE FOR US HERE, BECAUSE
RESOURCE FOR US HERE, BECAUSE
USING THE RENEWABLE SUPPLY
USING THE RENEWABLE SUPPLY
ALLOWS US TO NOT PUMP OUR NATIVE
ALLOWS US TO NOT PUMP OUR NATIVE
GROUNDWATER.
GROUNDWATER.
THE OTHER RENEWABLE SUPPLY
THE OTHER RENEWABLE SUPPLY
AVAILABLE IN TUCSON IS OUR
AVAILABLE IN TUCSON IS OUR
RECYCLED WATER OR RECLAIMED
RECYCLED WATER OR RECLAIMED
WATER THAT WE USE PRIMARILY FOR
WATER THAT WE USE PRIMARILY FOR
IRRIGATING PARKS, SCHOOLS, GOLF
IRRIGATING PARKS, SCHOOLS, GOLF
COURSES, PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS.
COURSES, PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS.
>> WATER EXPERTS SAY THE GRAND
>> WATER EXPERTS SAY THE GRAND
CANYON STATE IS IN GOOD SHAPE
CANYON STATE IS IN GOOD SHAPE
WHEN IT COMES TO WATER SUPPLY.
WHEN IT COMES TO WATER SUPPLY.
BUT PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS TRY TO
BUT PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS TRY TO
CONSERVE.
CONSERVE.
>> DROUGHT WILL NOT AFFECT
>> DROUGHT WILL NOT AFFECT
CUSTOMERS HERE AT TUCSON WATER
CUSTOMERS HERE AT TUCSON WATER
LIKE IT MIGHT IN OTHER
LIKE IT MIGHT IN OTHER
COMMUNITIES OR LIKE WE'RE SEEING
COMMUNITIES OR LIKE WE'RE SEEING
IN CALIFORNIA.
IN CALIFORNIA.
ONCE A SHORTAGE IS DECLARED ON
ONCE A SHORTAGE IS DECLARED ON
THE COLORADO RIVER, THAT MEANS
THE COLORADO RIVER, THAT MEANS
THAT WATER LEVELS HAVE DROPPED
THAT WATER LEVELS HAVE DROPPED
IN THE LAKES TO A POINT WHERE
IN THE LAKES TO A POINT WHERE
CERTAIN PROVISIONS HAVE TO KICK
CERTAIN PROVISIONS HAVE TO KICK
IN.
IN.
THAT RESULTS IN A SHORTAGE OF
THAT RESULTS IN A SHORTAGE OF
WATER DELIVERIES TO ARIZONA.
WATER DELIVERIES TO ARIZONA.
INTERNALLY WITHIN ARIZONA
INTERNALLY WITHIN ARIZONA
THERE'S A PROCESS SET IN PLACE
THERE'S A PROCESS SET IN PLACE
THAT PRIORITIZES WHO GETS THOSE
THAT PRIORITIZES WHO GETS THOSE
REDUCTIONS IN WATER USE AND WHEN
REDUCTIONS IN WATER USE AND WHEN
THEY GET THEM.
THEY GET THEM.
>> FOR NOW, THERE ARE NO MAJOR
>> FOR NOW, THERE ARE NO MAJOR
CONCERNS.
CONCERNS.
>> FORTUNATELY, MUNICIPALITIES,
>> FORTUNATELY, MUNICIPALITIES,
THE CITIES, THE URBAN AREAS,
THE CITIES, THE URBAN AREAS,
HAVE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY WATER.
HAVE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY WATER.
SO THEY WILL BE THE LAST ONES TO
SO THEY WILL BE THE LAST ONES TO
RECEIVE ANY CUTBACKS OFF OF THE
RECEIVE ANY CUTBACKS OFF OF THE
C.A.P. SYSTEM.
C.A.P. SYSTEM.
TODAY, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL NEW,
TODAY, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL NEW,
WE HAVE NEVER GONE THROUGH THE
WE HAVE NEVER GONE THROUGH THE
PROCESS.
PROCESS.
WE ANTICIPATE IT COULD BE 10 TO
WE ANTICIPATE IT COULD BE 10 TO
20 YEARS FROM THE DATE THAT THE
20 YEARS FROM THE DATE THAT THE
SHORTAGE IS ON THE COLORADO RIFF
SHORTAGE IS ON THE COLORADO RIFF
TORE THE POINT WHERE THE IMPACT
TORE THE POINT WHERE THE IMPACT
MIGHT HIT THE MUNICIPALITIES.
MIGHT HIT THE MUNICIPALITIES.
>> AND TUCSON OFFERS REBATES TO
>> AND TUCSON OFFERS REBATES TO
THOSE WHO CONSERVE WATER.
THOSE WHO CONSERVE WATER.
>> BY AND LARGE, THE REBATE
>> BY AND LARGE, THE REBATE
PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
WE STILL HAVE HIGH ATTENDANCE AT
WE STILL HAVE HIGH ATTENDANCE AT
ALL OF OUR WORKSHOPS THAT WE
ALL OF OUR WORKSHOPS THAT WE
OFFER FOR PEOPLE.
OFFER FOR PEOPLE.
OUR REBATE PROGRAMS ARE DOING
OUR REBATE PROGRAMS ARE DOING
REALLY WELL.
REALLY WELL.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING FROM THE
I MEAN, EVERYTHING FROM THE
TOILET REBATE PROGRAMS TO
TOILET REBATE PROGRAMS TO
RAINWATER HARVESTING HAS BEEN
RAINWATER HARVESTING HAS BEEN
ALSO VERY SUCCESSFUL.
ALSO VERY SUCCESSFUL.
>> AN IDEAL SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE
>> AN IDEAL SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE
SUCH AS CAM WHO SAYS EVERY TIME
SUCH AS CAM WHO SAYS EVERY TIME
IT RAINS, ALL THIS MAKES IT
IT RAINS, ALL THIS MAKES IT
WORTHWHILE.
WORTHWHILE.
>> LAST SATURDAY NIGHT WE HAD
>> LAST SATURDAY NIGHT WE HAD
RAIN DURING THE DAY ON SATURDAY.
RAIN DURING THE DAY ON SATURDAY.
MY WIFE AND I WERE OUT, BUT WHEN
MY WIFE AND I WERE OUT, BUT WHEN
I CAME BACK IN AND I HAD ALREADY
I CAME BACK IN AND I HAD ALREADY
PICKED UP 20 HUNDREDTHS OF AN
PICKED UP 20 HUNDREDTHS OF AN
INCH AT THAT POINT AND THEN IT
INCH AT THAT POINT AND THEN IT
WOKE ME UP.
WOKE ME UP.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT
HAPPENS ON OCCASION.
HAPPENS ON OCCASION.
PARTICULARLY IN THE MONSOON
PARTICULARLY IN THE MONSOON
OCCASION.
OCCASION.
I WILL HEAR THE WATER ROLLING
I WILL HEAR THE WATER ROLLING
THROUGH THE GUTTERS AND ROLLING
THROUGH THE GUTTERS AND ROLLING
IN AND YES, THERE IS A --
IN AND YES, THERE IS A --
THERE'S THAT LITTLE HAPPY
THERE'S THAT LITTLE HAPPY
FEELING THAT I'M CAPTURING WATER
FEELING THAT I'M CAPTURING WATER
AND MY GARDEN IS GOING TO LOVE
AND MY GARDEN IS GOING TO LOVE
IT.
IT.
>> THE RESULT IS A DESERT GARDEN
>> THE RESULT IS A DESERT GARDEN
IN BLOOM.
IN BLOOM.
FOR "ARIZONA WEEK" I'M ALEXANDRA
FOR "ARIZONA WEEK" I'M ALEXANDRA
SALAZAR.
SALAZAR.
>>> JUST THIS WEEK, CITY LEADERS
>>> JUST THIS WEEK, CITY LEADERS
IN THE NORTHERN ARIZONA
IN THE NORTHERN ARIZONA
COMMUNITY OF WILLIAMS ISSUED A
COMMUNITY OF WILLIAMS ISSUED A
LEVEL 4 WATER CRISIS.
LEVEL 4 WATER CRISIS.
AND ASKED RESIDENTS TO CONSERVE.
AND ASKED RESIDENTS TO CONSERVE.
DESPITE THIS EARLY SEASON
DESPITE THIS EARLY SEASON
WARNING, THEY SAY THE STATE IS
WARNING, THEY SAY THE STATE IS
NOT IN IMMEDIATE DANGER BUT
NOT IN IMMEDIATE DANGER BUT
THERE MAY BE CONCERN FOR THE
THERE MAY BE CONCERN FOR THE
FUTURE.
FUTURE.
SHARON MEGDAL, THE DIRECTOR OF
SHARON MEGDAL, THE DIRECTOR OF
THE WATER RESEARCH CENTER, THANK
THE WATER RESEARCH CENTER, THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE.
YOU FOR BEING HERE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT ARIZONA'S WATER
LET'S TALK ABOUT ARIZONA'S WATER
SITUATION.
SITUATION.
WHERE DOES ARIZONA GET ITS WATER
WHERE DOES ARIZONA GET ITS WATER
FROM?
FROM?
>> ARIZONA GETS ITS WATER FROM A
>> ARIZONA GETS ITS WATER FROM A
FEW DIFFERENT SOURCES.
FEW DIFFERENT SOURCES.
GROUNDWATER IS A VERY IMPORTANT
GROUNDWATER IS A VERY IMPORTANT
SOURCE TO ARIZONA.
SOURCE TO ARIZONA.
THE COLORADO RIVER WATER FLOWS
THE COLORADO RIVER WATER FLOWS
ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF
ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF
THE STATE AND THROUGH THE
THE STATE AND THROUGH THE
CENTRAL PART OF THE STATE AND
CENTRAL PART OF THE STATE AND
THEN ALSO THROUGH REUSE.
THEN ALSO THROUGH REUSE.
>> THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT
>> THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT
THE LACK OF RAIN IN ARIZONA.
THE LACK OF RAIN IN ARIZONA.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW CLIMATE
CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW CLIMATE
ACTUALLY PLAYS A FACTOR WHEN IT
ACTUALLY PLAYS A FACTOR WHEN IT
COMES TO THE WATER IN ARIZONA?
COMES TO THE WATER IN ARIZONA?
>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CLIMATE
>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CLIMATE
AND WATER IN ARIZONA, WE HAVE TO
AND WATER IN ARIZONA, WE HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT IT, LIKE ANYTHING
THINK ABOUT IT, LIKE ANYTHING
WATER RELATED ON MULTIPLE
WATER RELATED ON MULTIPLE
DIMENSIONS.
DIMENSIONS.
ABOUT 40% OF THE WATER USE IN
ABOUT 40% OF THE WATER USE IN
ARIZONA NOW IS COMING FROM THE
ARIZONA NOW IS COMING FROM THE
COLORADO RIVER.
COLORADO RIVER.
AND THAT WATER FLOW REALLY
AND THAT WATER FLOW REALLY
DEPENDS UPON THE SNOW PACK AND
DEPENDS UPON THE SNOW PACK AND
THE MELT UP IN NORTHERN PART OF
THE MELT UP IN NORTHERN PART OF
THE COLORADO RIVER BASIN.
THE COLORADO RIVER BASIN.
SO THAT WATER AVAILABILITY
SO THAT WATER AVAILABILITY
DEPENDS UPON WEATHER CONDITIONS
DEPENDS UPON WEATHER CONDITIONS
ELSEWHERE.
ELSEWHERE.
THEN WE HAVE OUR MORE LOCAL
THEN WE HAVE OUR MORE LOCAL
CONDITIONS WHERE WE MAY RELY ON
CONDITIONS WHERE WE MAY RELY ON
OUR OWN RAINFALL, THE RAINFALL
OUR OWN RAINFALL, THE RAINFALL
RECHARGES AQUIFERS.
RECHARGES AQUIFERS.
THAT IS VERY LOCAL.
THAT IS VERY LOCAL.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WEATHER
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WEATHER
CHANGES AND THE CHANGES IN THE
CHANGES AND THE CHANGES IN THE
CLIMATE AND THIS LONG TERM
CLIMATE AND THIS LONG TERM
DROUGHT, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER NOT
DROUGHT, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER NOT
TO LOOK ONLY AT TUCSON.
TO LOOK ONLY AT TUCSON.
BUT LOOK AT THE BROADER REGION,
BUT LOOK AT THE BROADER REGION,
BECAUSE WE ARE DEPENDENT ON THE
BECAUSE WE ARE DEPENDENT ON THE
SNOW THAT FALLS IN COLORADO.
SNOW THAT FALLS IN COLORADO.
>> YOU SAY ARIZONA IS NOT IN THE
>> YOU SAY ARIZONA IS NOT IN THE
WATER CRISIS, BUT AS THE
WATER CRISIS, BUT AS THE
POPULATION CONTINUES TO
POPULATION CONTINUES TO
INCREASE, CITIES GROW AND
INCREASE, CITIES GROW AND
EXPAND, WE MAY GET TO THAT POINT
EXPAND, WE MAY GET TO THAT POINT
WHERE WE NEED TO BE MORE AWARE
WHERE WE NEED TO BE MORE AWARE
OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WHAT ARE SOME WAYS THAT THE
WHAT ARE SOME WAYS THAT THE
AVERAGE PERSON CAN DO THAT?
AVERAGE PERSON CAN DO THAT?
YOU MENTIONED WATCHING YOUR
YOU MENTIONED WATCHING YOUR
WATER USE, BUT WHAT DO PEOPLE
WATER USE, BUT WHAT DO PEOPLE
NEED TO KNOW MOVING FORWARD?
NEED TO KNOW MOVING FORWARD?
>> I THINK MAYBE THE MOST
>> I THINK MAYBE THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING FOR THE PUBLIC
IMPORTANT THING FOR THE PUBLIC
WOULD BE TO NOT TAKE WATER FOR
WOULD BE TO NOT TAKE WATER FOR
GRANTED.
GRANTED.
YES, IT'S EXPECTED, IT'S
YES, IT'S EXPECTED, IT'S
EXPECTED TO BE CLEAN, RELIABLE
EXPECTED TO BE CLEAN, RELIABLE
AND COME OUT OF THE TAP.
AND COME OUT OF THE TAP.
BUT START THINKING ABOUT WHERE
BUT START THINKING ABOUT WHERE
DOES MY WATER COME FROM AND ALL
DOES MY WATER COME FROM AND ALL
THAT GOES INTO IT.
THAT GOES INTO IT.
SO THAT WE -- WE DON'T GET INTO
SO THAT WE -- WE DON'T GET INTO
THE CRISIS AND THEN WE ALSO
THE CRISIS AND THEN WE ALSO
UNDERSTAND THAT IN CERTAIN CASES
UNDERSTAND THAT IN CERTAIN CASES
WE ARE DEPLETING AQUIFERS.
WE ARE DEPLETING AQUIFERS.
WE HAVE WATER UNDERGROUND.
WE HAVE WATER UNDERGROUND.
IT'S BEEN PUT THERE BY SYSTEMS
IT'S BEEN PUT THERE BY SYSTEMS
OVER MANY, MANY YEARS.
OVER MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND WE'RE USING IT AND NATURE IS
AND WE'RE USING IT AND NATURE IS
NOT GOING TO REPLACE IT SO
NOT GOING TO REPLACE IT SO
QUICKLY.
QUICKLY.
SO I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD THINK
SO I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD THINK
MAYBE WHERE'S MY WATER COMING
MAYBE WHERE'S MY WATER COMING
FROM AND IF THEY THINK ABOUT
FROM AND IF THEY THINK ABOUT
THAT A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE THEY'LL
THAT A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE THEY'LL
STOP AND THINK THAT I CAN USE A
STOP AND THINK THAT I CAN USE A
LITTLE LESS, I NEED TO BE MORE
LITTLE LESS, I NEED TO BE MORE
CAREFUL.
CAREFUL.
>> IS THERE A TIME LINE OF WHEN
>> IS THERE A TIME LINE OF WHEN
WE THINK WE'LL GET TO THAT POINT
WE THINK WE'LL GET TO THAT POINT
WHERE IT'S ALMOST CRISIS MODE OR
WHERE IT'S ALMOST CRISIS MODE OR
OH, WE REALLY DO NEED TO WATCH
OH, WE REALLY DO NEED TO WATCH
BECAUSE OUR SUSTAINABILITY IS A
BECAUSE OUR SUSTAINABILITY IS A
PROBLEM?
PROBLEM?
>> I SEE IT -- I THINK MANY SEE
>> I SEE IT -- I THINK MANY SEE
IT AS THE JOB OF THE WATER
IT AS THE JOB OF THE WATER
MANAGERS AND THE OTHER
MANAGERS AND THE OTHER
DECISIONMAKERS IN OUR STATE.
DECISIONMAKERS IN OUR STATE.
TO AVOID OUR GETTING TO A CRISIS
TO AVOID OUR GETTING TO A CRISIS
SITUATION.
SITUATION.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THE
AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THE
WATER MANAGERS AND PEOPLE LIKE
WATER MANAGERS AND PEOPLE LIKE
ME AND OTHERS THAT ARE WORKING
ME AND OTHERS THAT ARE WORKING
ON THESE ISSUES, WE WANT TO GET
ON THESE ISSUES, WE WANT TO GET
THE PUBLIC EXCITED ABOUT IT NOW
THE PUBLIC EXCITED ABOUT IT NOW
SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN THAT CRISIS
SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN THAT CRISIS
STAGE.
STAGE.
BUT PEOPLE READ THE PAPER.
BUT PEOPLE READ THE PAPER.
THEY KNOW THAT A SHORTAGE COULD
THEY KNOW THAT A SHORTAGE COULD
BE DECLARED ON THE COLORADO
BE DECLARED ON THE COLORADO
RIVER AS SOON AS TWO OR THREE
RIVER AS SOON AS TWO OR THREE
YEARS FROM NOW.
YEARS FROM NOW.
THAT SHORTAGE DECLARATION IS
THAT SHORTAGE DECLARATION IS
EXPECTED TO AFFECT CITIES.
EXPECTED TO AFFECT CITIES.
IT WILL AFFECT FARMERS AND SOME
IT WILL AFFECT FARMERS AND SOME
OTHER USERS BUT IT WON'T AFFECT
OTHER USERS BUT IT WON'T AFFECT
CITIES.
CITIES.
BUT IF THINGS STAY THE WAY THEY
BUT IF THINGS STAY THE WAY THEY
ARE IN THE COLORADO RIVER FOR
ARE IN THE COLORADO RIVER FOR
YEARS AND YEARS, WE'RE IN A
YEARS AND YEARS, WE'RE IN A
DROUGHT THAT'S 14 YEARS OLD NOW,
DROUGHT THAT'S 14 YEARS OLD NOW,
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE WILL COME
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE WILL COME
OUT OF IT.
OUT OF IT.
WE KNOW HOW LITTLE PRECIPITATION
WE KNOW HOW LITTLE PRECIPITATION
WE'VE GOTTEN THIS YEAR HERE
WE'VE GOTTEN THIS YEAR HERE
ALTHOUGH THE MOUNTAINS IN
ALTHOUGH THE MOUNTAINS IN
COLORADO ARE DOING PRETTY WELL.
COLORADO ARE DOING PRETTY WELL.
SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THE COLORADO
SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THE COLORADO
RIVER COULD GET EVEN IN A WORSE
RIVER COULD GET EVEN IN A WORSE
SITUATION.
SITUATION.
SO I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE TO
SO I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE TO
BE EDUCATED ABOUT IT.
BE EDUCATED ABOUT IT.
I THINK OUR WATER MANAGERS HAVE
I THINK OUR WATER MANAGERS HAVE
TO BE LET'S SAY -- THEY'RE
TO BE LET'S SAY -- THEY'RE
ALWAYS -- I THINK OUR WATER
ALWAYS -- I THINK OUR WATER
MANAGERS HAVE TO BE UP FRONT
MANAGERS HAVE TO BE UP FRONT
WITH IF PUBLIC AND THERE'S JUST
WITH IF PUBLIC AND THERE'S JUST
A BALANCING ACT.
A BALANCING ACT.
WE DON'T HAVE A CRISIS.
WE DON'T HAVE A CRISIS.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET YOU SCARED.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET YOU SCARED.
WE DON'T WANT TO SCARE OFF
WE DON'T WANT TO SCARE OFF
DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE DO GREAT
DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE DO GREAT
PLANNING FOR OUR ECONOMIC
PLANNING FOR OUR ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WE DO HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE
BUT WE DO HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE
FUTURE.
FUTURE.
SO IT'S THIS BALANCING ACT OF
SO IT'S THIS BALANCING ACT OF
GETTING PEOPLE EXCITED INTO
GETTING PEOPLE EXCITED INTO
ACTION FOR FUTURE WITHOUT
ACTION FOR FUTURE WITHOUT
GETTING THEM ALARMED.
GETTING THEM ALARMED.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
WE LIVE IN THE DESERT.
WE LIVE IN THE DESERT.
WE HAVE A HEALTHY WATER
WE HAVE A HEALTHY WATER
SITUATION THEN?
SITUATION THEN?
>> RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE A
>> RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE A
HEALTHY WATER SITUATION.
HEALTHY WATER SITUATION.
WE HAVE DONE GOOD PLANNING HERE.
WE HAVE DONE GOOD PLANNING HERE.
BUT WE CAN'T REST ON OUR
BUT WE CAN'T REST ON OUR
LAURELS.
LAURELS.
>> JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THE
>> JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THE
STATE LEGISLATURE THIS WEEK IS
STATE LEGISLATURE THIS WEEK IS
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.
SOME FIREWORKS, NOT LIKE WHAT WE
SOME FIREWORKS, NOT LIKE WHAT WE
HAVE SEEN IN PREVIOUS WEEKS, BUT
HAVE SEEN IN PREVIOUS WEEKS, BUT
SOMETHING PRETTY INTERESTING.
SOMETHING PRETTY INTERESTING.
>> THERE WERE SOME FIREWORKS AND
>> THERE WERE SOME FIREWORKS AND
THEY WERE ON THE FLOOR.
THEY WERE ON THE FLOOR.
WE'RE USED TO REPUBLICANS AND
WE'RE USED TO REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS ARGUING ON THE FLOOR.
DEMOCRATS ARGUING ON THE FLOOR.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
THAT'S WHAT THEY GO UP TO DO.
THAT'S WHAT THEY GO UP TO DO.
INTERESTING THIS WEEK, STATE
INTERESTING THIS WEEK, STATE
SENATOR MELVIN WHO IS RUNNING
SENATOR MELVIN WHO IS RUNNING
FOR GOVERNOR FROM SOUTHERN
FOR GOVERNOR FROM SOUTHERN
ARIZONA SPONSORED A BILL, GOT IT
ARIZONA SPONSORED A BILL, GOT IT
THROUGH PRELIMINARY APPROVAL ON
THROUGH PRELIMINARY APPROVAL ON
THE SENATE FLOOR THAT WOULD HAVE
THE SENATE FLOOR THAT WOULD HAVE
PROHIBITED THE STATE FROM USING
PROHIBITED THE STATE FROM USING
THE NEW COMMON CORE EDUCATION
THE NEW COMMON CORE EDUCATION
STANDARDS WHICH FOUR YEARS AGO
STANDARDS WHICH FOUR YEARS AGO
THE STATE ADOPTED AND HAS BEGUN
THE STATE ADOPTED AND HAS BEGUN
IMPLEMENTING THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
IMPLEMENTING THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
HIS ARGUMENT AT THE TIME THIS IS
HIS ARGUMENT AT THE TIME THIS IS
FEDERAL OVERREACH.
FEDERAL OVERREACH.
WE CAN WRITE STANDARDS BETTER
WE CAN WRITE STANDARDS BETTER
AND THE SENATE VOTED TO ADVANCE
AND THE SENATE VOTED TO ADVANCE
THAT BILL.
THAT BILL.
THE NEXT DAY THAT BILL CAME BACK
THE NEXT DAY THAT BILL CAME BACK
AND WHEN IT WENT UP ON THE FLOOR
AND WHEN IT WENT UP ON THE FLOOR
FOR A FINAL VOTE, IT WAS VOTED
FOR A FINAL VOTE, IT WAS VOTED
DOWN.
DOWN.
REPUBLICANS JOINED WITH
REPUBLICANS JOINED WITH
DEMOCRATS AND VOTED THAT BILL
DEMOCRATS AND VOTED THAT BILL
DOWN.
DOWN.
IT'S VERY RARE TO SEE SOMETHING
IT'S VERY RARE TO SEE SOMETHING
VOTED DOWN ON THE FLOOR AGAINST
VOTED DOWN ON THE FLOOR AGAINST
THE SENATE PRESIDENT WHO SPOKE
THE SENATE PRESIDENT WHO SPOKE
IN FAVOR OF IT TWICE.
IN FAVOR OF IT TWICE.
>> AND WE SHOULD BE CLEAR.
>> AND WE SHOULD BE CLEAR.
THIS IS THE ARIZONA COLORADO AND
THIS IS THE ARIZONA COLORADO AND
CAREER READY STANDARDS WHICH WAS
CAREER READY STANDARDS WHICH WAS
KNOWN AS COMMON CORE.
KNOWN AS COMMON CORE.
BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE
BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE
CONTROVERSY SORT OF STARTED, IS
CONTROVERSY SORT OF STARTED, IS
THE COMMON CORE WAS A FEDERAL
THE COMMON CORE WAS A FEDERAL
TERM AND MAYBE SENATOR MELVIN
TERM AND MAYBE SENATOR MELVIN
DIDN'T WANT THAT REFERENCE
DIDN'T WANT THAT REFERENCE
ATTACHED TO THE FEDERAL GUIDE
ATTACHED TO THE FEDERAL GUIDE
LINES.
LINES.
>> VERY OFTEN WE HEAR OUT OF THE
>> VERY OFTEN WE HEAR OUT OF THE
REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE
REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE
THEY DON'T WANT LIKE THE FEDERAL
THEY DON'T WANT LIKE THE FEDERAL
CREEP INTO THINGS AND THIS WAS
CREEP INTO THINGS AND THIS WAS
AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
DURING THE INITIAL DEBATE ON THE
DURING THE INITIAL DEBATE ON THE
FLOOR, SENATOR MELVIN WAS
FLOOR, SENATOR MELVIN WAS
QUESTIONED BY SENATOR BRADLEY
QUESTIONED BY SENATOR BRADLEY
WHO IS ALSO FROM SOUTHERN
WHO IS ALSO FROM SOUTHERN
ARIZONA, A DEMOCRAT, ABOUT WHAT
ARIZONA, A DEMOCRAT, ABOUT WHAT
HE DIDN'T LIKE.
HE DIDN'T LIKE.
TELL US WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE IN
TELL US WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE IN
THE COMMON CORE STANDARD.
THE COMMON CORE STANDARD.
AND SENATOR MELVIN DIDN'T ANSWER
AND SENATOR MELVIN DIDN'T ANSWER
THE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION.
WHEN THEY ASKED FOR SPECIFICS,
WHEN THEY ASKED FOR SPECIFICS,
SENATOR MELVIN SAID SENATOR
SENATOR MELVIN SAID SENATOR
BRADLEY TO GO FIND THE PROBLEMS
BRADLEY TO GO FIND THE PROBLEMS
HIMSELF AND KEPT COMING BACK
HIMSELF AND KEPT COMING BACK
THIS IS A FEDERAL OVERREACH, THE
THIS IS A FEDERAL OVERREACH, THE
STATE OF ARIZONA CAN DO IT
STATE OF ARIZONA CAN DO IT
BETTER THAT'S WHAT SENATE
BETTER THAT'S WHAT SENATE
PRESIDENT BIGGS ALSO ARGUED.
PRESIDENT BIGGS ALSO ARGUED.
DESPITE THAT, IT WENT DOWN.
DESPITE THAT, IT WENT DOWN.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
WE COULD HEAR MORE ABOUT IT
WE COULD HEAR MORE ABOUT IT
LATER IN THE SESSION.
LATER IN THE SESSION.
BUT I WANT TO GET TO THE
BUT I WANT TO GET TO THE
ABORTION CLINICS.
ABORTION CLINICS.
TALK ABOUT THAT.
TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> THERE'S A BILL THAT'S WORKING
>> THERE'S A BILL THAT'S WORKING
THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, THE
THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, THE
HOUSE HAS PASSED IT, THAT ALLOWS
HOUSE HAS PASSED IT, THAT ALLOWS
SNAP OR SURPRISE INSPECTIONS OF
SNAP OR SURPRISE INSPECTIONS OF
ABORTION CLINICS IN ARIZONA.
ABORTION CLINICS IN ARIZONA.
ACCORDING TO THE SPONSORS, THOSE
ACCORDING TO THE SPONSORS, THOSE
ARE THE ONLY MEDICAL FACILITIES
ARE THE ONLY MEDICAL FACILITIES
IN STATE THAT INSPECTORS CANNOT
IN STATE THAT INSPECTORS CANNOT
JUST SHOW UP TO AT ANY TIME.
JUST SHOW UP TO AT ANY TIME.
THE ARGUMENT AGAINST IT IS THAT
THE ARGUMENT AGAINST IT IS THAT
THAT IS -- COULD BE AN INVASION
THAT IS -- COULD BE AN INVASION
OF A WOMAN'S PRIVACY.
OF A WOMAN'S PRIVACY.
IT'S PASSED THE HOUSE.
IT'S PASSED THE HOUSE.
IT MOST CERTAINLY WILL END UP IN
IT MOST CERTAINLY WILL END UP IN
COURT ASSUMING IT BECOMES LAW
COURT ASSUMING IT BECOMES LAW
WHICH WOULD TAKE THE GOVERNOR'S
WHICH WOULD TAKE THE GOVERNOR'S
SIGNATURE, BUT THIS ONE WILL NOT
SIGNATURE, BUT THIS ONE WILL NOT
GO AWAY IF IT GETS TO THE
GO AWAY IF IT GETS TO THE
GOVERNOR'S DESK.
GOVERNOR'S DESK.
>> AS YOU MENTIONED THERE'S
>> AS YOU MENTIONED THERE'S
STILL OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THESE
STILL OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THESE
ISSUES RIGHT BACK UP BEFORE THE
ISSUES RIGHT BACK UP BEFORE THE
FINAL GAVEL.
FINAL GAVEL.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THE COMMON CORE COULD COME BACK
THE COMMON CORE COULD COME BACK
IN THE FORM OF AN AMENDMENT.
IN THE FORM OF AN AMENDMENT.
SENATOR MELVIN OR SOMEBODY ELSE
SENATOR MELVIN OR SOMEBODY ELSE
COULD TRY AND TACK IT ON TO
COULD TRY AND TACK IT ON TO
ANOTHER BILL.
ANOTHER BILL.
NOTHING IS TRULY DEAD UNTIL THE
NOTHING IS TRULY DEAD UNTIL THE
LAST MOMENT OF THE SESSION.
LAST MOMENT OF THE SESSION.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THANK YOU
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, THANK YOU
FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
THAT DOES IT FOR THIS EDITION OF
THAT DOES IT FOR THIS EDITION OF
"ARIZONA WEEK."
"ARIZONA WEEK."
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