>>> AGREEING ON A SPENDING PLAN.

 

LAWMAKERS AND THE GOVERNOR.

 

>> THIS BUDGET IS A REAL WINNER

 

FOR K-12 EDUCATION, FOR OUR

 

UNIVERSITIES, FOR OUR KIDS, FOR

 

OUR TEACHERS.

 

>> A BUDGET THAT PUMPS MORE

 

MONEY INTO EDUCATION, BUT IT

 

DOESN'T SATISFY EVERYONE.

 

>> WE ARE CONSISTENTLY DENYING

 

OUR SCHOOLS $1 BILLION EVERY

 

YEAR.

 

>>> PLUS AN UNLIKELY PATH TO THE

 

CLASSROOM.

 

>>> HELLO AND THANKS FOR JOINING

 

US.

 

THIS WEEK, ARIZONA LAWMAKERS END

 

THE 2017 LEGISLATIVE SESSION,

 

APE $9.8 BILLION PLAN FOR NEXT

 

YEAR.

 

AMONG THE BIG TICKET ITEMS,

 

EDUCATION FUNDING.

 

ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA'S

 

CHRISTOPHER CANOVER TRAVELED TO

 

PHOENIX THIS WEEK FOR A

 

ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH

 

GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY.

 

>> THIS BUDGET IS A REAL WINNER

 

FOR K-12 EDUCATION, FOR OUR

 

UNIVERSITIES, FOR OUR KIDS, FOR

 

OUR TEACHERS.

 

WE TOOK ALL OF THE AVAILABLE

 

DOLLARS.

 

I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET

 

JUST A FEW SHORT WEEKS AGO WE

 

WERE IN A DEFICIT AS A STATE.

 

WE HAD A $1 BILLION DEFICIT.

 

WE HAD TO MAKE SOME VERY

 

DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT FIRST

 

YEAR TO BALANCE THAT BUDGET.

 

NOW WE'RE INVESTING AGAIN.

 

WE'RE SPENDING AGAIN, AND WE'VE

 

GOT NEARLY $170 MILLION

 

ADDITIONAL FOR K-12 EDUCATION

 

OVER AND ABOVE INFLATION,

 

$63 MILLION COMMITTED DIRECTLY

 

TO TEACHERS.

 

THIS IS ALL ON TOP OF

 

PROPOSITION 123, WHICH WAS

 

$3.5 BILLION GUARANTEED OVER THE

 

NEXT TEN YEARS.

 

AND KWEEF BEEN ABLE TO DO ALL OF

 

THIS ADDITIONAL SPENDING AND

 

INVESTING WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.

 

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY POSITIVE

 

FOR EDUCATION.

 

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY POSITIVE

 

FOR OUR KIDS, OUR TEACHERS, AND

 

THAT DOESN'T EVEN TOUCH ON

 

UNIVERSITIES YET.

 

>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET,

 

YOU MENTIONED UNIVERSITY

 

FUNDING.

 

IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS THE BIG

 

STICKING POINT.

 

YOU STUCK TO YOUR GUNS.

 

YOU WANTED THAT MONEY.

 

THE LEGISLATURE CAME UP WITH IT

 

IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

 

IS IT THE RIGHT SOLUTION, OR IS

 

IT JUST A COMPROMISE SOLUTION?

 

>> NO, I WOULD SAY IT'S THE

 

RIGHT SOLUTION.

 

FOR ME, THIS WAS ABOUT RESOURCES

 

AND DOLLARS TO OUR UNIVERSITIES.

 

WE HAVE GREAT UNIVERSITIES IN

 

THIS STATE.

 

YOU KNOW, THE UNIVERSITY OF

 

ARIZONA, ASU, NAU.

 

WE ARE AMONG THE FASTEST GROWING

 

STATES IN THE COUNTRY.

 

WE HAVE THE FASTEST GROWING

 

COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY IN OUR

 

STATE.

 

AND THESE UNIVERSITIES ARE

 

GROWING.

 

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING

 

THESE KIDS THROUGH THE K-12

 

SYSTEM THAT'S EVER IMPROVING AND

 

THEY'RE GETTING BETTER RESULTS,

 

WE WANT TO HAVE UNIVERSITIES

 

THAT CAN BRING THEM IN, AND WE

 

WANT TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE

 

THAT CAN ADDRESS 21st CENTURY

 

NEEDS IN TERMS OF RESEARCH,

 

LABORATORY INVESTMENT, ET

 

CETERA.

 

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TO

 

DO.

 

IT'S GOING TO ALLOW OUR

 

UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS TO PLAN

 

AHEAD, TO FOCUS ON THE

 

EXCELLENCE OF THEIR ENTERPRISE,

 

TO KEEP DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING

 

BUT TO DO MORE OF IT AND FASTER.

 

>> WHEN IT COMES TO K-12

 

TEACHERS, IN YOUR STATE OF THE

 

STATE ADDRESS, YOU ASKED FOR A

 

RAISE OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS.

 

THE LEGISLATURE MOVED UP THAT S.

 

HOW DO WE GET TEACHERS TO STAY

 

IN THE STATE?

 

>> WE WANT TO GET THEM EVEN MORE

 

MONEY.

 

ARIZONA IS IMPROVING FASTER THAN

 

ANY OTHER STATE IN MATH,

 

READING, AND SCIENCE.

 

WE'RE MAKING LARGER GAINS THAN

 

OTHER STATES IN THE COUNTRY, AND

 

THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY

 

OF OUR TEACHERS.

 

WE'RE HAVING A TEACHER SHORTAGE

 

IN ARIZONA.

 

IT'S NOT JUST ARIZONA.

 

THIS IS HAPPENING ACROSS

 

AMERICA.

 

PEOPLE THAT ARE MY AGE, MANY OF

 

THEM CAME OUT OF SCHOOL AND WENT

 

INTO TEACHING.

 

THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR ABOUT

 

30-PLUS YEARS.

 

THEY WANT TO GO INTO RETIREMENT.

 

THEY'VE EARNED THAT RETIREMENT.

 

WE WANT TO KEEP OUR GOOD

 

TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOM.

 

WE WANT TO ATTRACT YOUNG PEOPLE

 

INTO THE CLASSROOM.

 

WE DID ANOTHER GOOD THING IN

 

TERMS OF ACCREDITATION.

 

WE LET SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS

 

THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE THAT ARE IN

 

THE PRIVATE SECTOR, COME IN AND

 

AT LEAST PRESENT THEMSELVES TO A

 

PRINCIPAL OR A SUPERINTENDENT TO

 

HELP FILL THAT NEED, TO TEACH

 

CLASSES AT BOTH THE GRADE SCHOOL

 

AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

 

SO WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS.

 

THERE'S MORE WE CAN DO.

 

WE ALSO WANT TO FORGIVE DEBT FOR

 

STUDENTS THAT ARE IN COLLEGE AND

 

WANT TO PUT THEIR CAREER INTO

 

TEACHING.

 

SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD DIFFERENT

 

TOOLS TO THE TOOLBOX ALONG WITH

 

RAISES AND RESOURCES THAT WE

 

THINK WILL HELP MITIGATE THIS

 

PROBLEM.

 

>> IN YOUR STATE OF THE STATE,

 

THE TEACHERS ACADEMY, THAT WAS

 

PART OF THE BUDGET.

 

THE LEGISLATURE PASSED IT.

 

IT'S THE THREE UNIVERSITIES

 

WORKING TOGETHER TO GET TEACHERS

 

OUT AND IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

 

>> ABSOLUTELY.

 

I MEAN WE WENT TO THE

 

UNIVERSITIES AND WE SAID, WE

 

EDUCATE THESE CHILDREN.

 

MANY OF THEM GO INTO LAW OR

 

MEDICINE OR BUSINESS, AND IN A

 

SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, THEY'RE

 

MAKING A SIGNIFICANT SALARY.

 

WE WANT TO IMPROVE TEACHER

 

SALARIES, BUT WE ALSO -- THERE'S

 

A BURDEN IN TERMS OF ROOM AND

 

BOARD AND TUITION AND DEBT

 

BOARD AND TUITION AND DEBT

 

THAT'S TAKEN ON.

 

WHAT CAN WE WORK TOGETHER ON TO

 

HELP LESSEN THAT BURDEN.

 

IF THEY HAVE THAT PASSION, YOU

 

KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T GO INTO

 

TEACHING FOR THE MONEY, BUT THEY

 

WORK INCREDIBLY HARD.

 

THEY DESERVE TO BE REWARDED.

 

AND IF WE CAN TAKE THAT DEBT OR

 

SOME OF THAT DEBT AWAY FROM THE

 

TUITION PERSPECTIVE, PERHAPS WE

 

CAN ATTRACT EVEN MORE GOOD

 

PEOPLE TO COME INTO THAT

 

PROFESSION.

 

>> EARLY IN THE SESSION, WE HAD

 

THE EMPOWERMENT SCHOLARSHIP BILL

 

FILED, WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL

 

VOUCHERS.

 

IT'S EXPANDED IT PRETTY MUCH TO

 

ALL KIDS DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT

 

OF MONEY AVAILABLE.

 

CRITICS SAY IT'S ONLY GOING TO

 

GO TO THE RICH KIDS WHO ARE

 

ALREADY IN PRIVATE SCHOOL,

 

ESPECIALLY BECAUSE A LOT OF

 

PRIVATE SCHOOLS COST MORE THAN

 

THE $5,000 THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

 

IS THAT A VALID ARGUMENT?

 

>> NO.

 

I THINK THAT'S INACCURATE.

 

THIS IS A LAW THAT EXISTED SINCE

 

2011.

 

IT'S HELPING FOSTER KIDS.

 

IT'S HELPING DISABLED KIDS.

 

IT'S HELPING KIDS ON TRIBAL

 

NATIONS AND CHILDREN OF MILITARY

 

FAMILIES.

 

THERE'S LESS THAN 5,000 CHILDREN

 

THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF

 

THIS, BUT THEY NEED THIS.

 

THEIR PARENTS NEED THIS CHOICE.

 

THERE'S OTHER KIDS THAT AREN'T

 

IN THOSE SAME SITUATIONS THAT

 

ALSO NEED THIS CHOICE.

 

THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.

 

IT'S A VERY SMALL REFORM.

 

BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, IT

 

CAN BE A LIFE SAVER.

 

THIS CAN BE FOR TUITION, FOR

 

TEXTBOOKS, FOR TUTORING, FOR

 

EDUCATIONAL THERAPY.

 

THE BEST WAY TO THINK OF IT IS

 

IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL SAVINGS

 

ACCOUNT THAT GIVES THE POWER TO

 

THE PARENT SO THAT THEY CAN

 

ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THEIR

 

CHILD.

 

IT'S SOMETHING ARIZONA HAS

 

REALLY SHINED IN, IN TERMS OF

 

EDUCATIONAL CHOICE.

 

AND TUCSON WAS THE FOUNDING OF

 

THE BASIS SCHOOL.

 

U.S. NEWS AND WORLD RECORD SAYS

 

THAT ARIZONA HAS FIVE OF THE TOP

 

TEN PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE

 

NATION.

 

SO WE KNOW HOW TO EDUCATE A

 

CHILD HERE.

 

OUR SCHOOL CHOICE HAS BEEN GOOD

 

FOR THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

 

WE NEED TO DO THIS MORE OFTEN IN

 

MORE AREAS WITH THE SAME AMOUNT

 

OF ATTENTION TO OUR DISTRICT

 

SCHOOLS, OUR PUBLIC CHARTER

 

SCHOOLS, AND WHEN A PARENT HAS A

 

SPECIAL SITUATION, ESAs CAN

 

HELP.

 

>> I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT THE

 

EMPOWERMENT SCHOLARSHIPS,

 

ESPECIALLY FOR KIDS WITH SPECIAL

 

NEEDS, THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF

 

IT, IF YOU WILL, REALLY IN SOME

 

WAYS IS A CONDEMNATION OF PUBLIC

 

SCHOOLS, THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS

 

CAN'T EDUCATE KID WHO'S ARE OUT

 

OF THE NORM.

 

IS IT A CONDEMNATION?

 

>> NO, NOT AT ALL.

 

AND THIS IS -- I THINK THIS IS

 

THE PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT

 

EVERYONE WANTS TO POLARIZE THIS

 

DEBATE, THAT EVERYTHING IS

 

EITHER RIGHT OR WRONG.

 

HOW ABOUT LEAVING THIS DECISION

 

TO THE PARENT?

 

AND WE HAVE OPTIONS IN THE STATE

 

OF ARIZONA.

 

HOW CAN YOU SAY TO A PARENT OF A

 

DISABLED CHILD THAT WHEN YOU

 

GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY IN THE

 

DOLLARS, KNOWING THE NEEDS OF

 

THEIR CHILD, THAT THAT WOULD BE

 

A CONDEMNATION OF PUBLIC

 

EDUCATION?

 

THE IDEA OF PUBLIC EDUCATION IS

 

TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, YET OUR

 

KIDS COME IN DIFFERENT SHAPES

 

AND SIZES AND DIFFERENT

 

CIRCUMSTANCES.

 

AND WHAT WE DO IN ARIZONA IS WE

 

ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, AND WE GIVE AS

 

MUCH POWER AS WE CAN TO THE

 

PARENT TO MAKE THE RIGHT

 

DECISION FOR THEIR CHILD.

 

>> YOUR PREDECESSOR, GOVERNOR

 

BREWER, RECENTLY CAME OUT AND

 

SAID MAYBE SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE

 

SIGNED SOME OF THE TAX CUTS THAT

 

SHE DID, AND MAYBE THE STATE

 

NEEDS THAT MONEY.

 

YOU'VE PUT FORWARD A LOT OF TAX

 

CUTS.

 

YOU'RE A BUSINESSMAN BEFORE YOU

 

WERE HERE IN STATE GOVERNMENT.

 

WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THE

 

FORMER GOVERNOR'S FEELINGS ON

 

TAX CUTS?

 

>> WELL, MY FOCUS IS HOW DO I

 

BRING BUSINESS TO OUR STATE?

 

HOW DO I BRING COMPANIES TO OUR

 

STATE?

 

HOW DO I MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE

 

THAT WANTS TO GET A JOB IN THE

 

STATE OF ARIZONA CAN FIND A JOB?

 

IN THIS VERY OFFICE, THIS IS

 

WHERE I MEET WITH A LOT OF

 

BUSINESS PEOPLE FROM OTHER

 

STATES, OFTENTIMES FROM

 

CALIFORNIA AND ILLINOIS THAT ARE

 

LOOKING TO RELOCATE OR EXPAND OR

 

BRING THEIR SUPPLY CHAIN.

 

THEY ALL WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE

 

TAX CLIMATE IS IN THE STATE AND

 

WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN

 

THE FUTURE.

 

WE'VE WON MORE THAN OUR FAIR

 

SHARE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND

 

NEGOTIATIONS IN THE LAST 28

 

MONTHS.

 

THE FACT THAT WE'RE A LOW-TAX,

 

LIGHT REGULATION STATE THAT'S

 

IMPROVING IN K-12 EDUCATION HAS

 

ALLOWED ME TO REALLY PITCH TO

 

THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING

 

THOSE DECISIONS.

 

I THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE OUR

 

STATE MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR

 

BUSINESS AND CONTINUE TO INVEST

 

IN EDUCATION AS LONG AS WE'RE

 

GROWING IN TERMS OF POPULATION

 

AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND

 

THAT'S MY PLAN.

 

>> YOU MENTIONED UNEMPLOYMENT.

 

NUMBERS ARE LOOKING BETTER.

 

WE'RE STILL A LITTLE BEHIND THE

 

NATIONAL AVERAGE.

 

HOW DO WE FIX THIS?

 

>> WELL, WE KEEP DOING WHAT

 

WE'RE DOING.

 

YOU KNOW, WE'RE A GROWTH STATE.

 

SO WHEN THE ECONOMY IS GOING

 

GOOD IN THE COUNTRY, IT'S BETTER

 

IN ARIZONA.

 

WHEN THE ECONOMY SUFFERS A

 

DOWNTURN NATIONALLY, IT HURTS

 

ARIZONA MORE.

 

BUT WE'RE OUT OF THE JOB LOSSES

 

THAT WE HAD SINCE THE GREAT

 

RECESSION.

 

NOW WE'RE ADDING JOBS, GROWING

 

FASTER THAN WE HAVE OR THAN

 

ANYONE ELSE IS IN THE COUNTRY.

 

THAT'S WHAT WILL BRING THE

 

ECONOMY BACK.

 

YOU KNOW, IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA,

 

COMCAST, CATERPILLAR, WHAT WE'VE

 

BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH THE

 

UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA IN TERMS

 

OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THE

 

RELATIONSHIP WITH DAVIS AND

 

RAYTHEON.

 

ALL REAL POSITIVES, ALL FOCUSED

 

ON THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BIGGER

 

THAN ONE COUNTY IN THIS STATE OR

 

ONE CITY.

 

I'VE REALLY ENJOYED THE VISITS

 

TO SOUTHERN ARIZONA.

 

I THINK I'VE BEEN THERE 30-PLUS

 

TIMES THIS WEEK.

 

MUCH OF OUR BUDGET, MUCH OF OUR

 

FOCUS HAS COME FROM LISTENING TO

 

THE CITIZENS AROUND THE STATE,

 

AND WE'VE REALLY HAD A FOCUS ON

 

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTHERN

 

ARIZONA.

 

>> WRAPPING UP HERE, THIRD

 

LEGISLATIVE SESSION AS GOVERNOR.

 

WHAT'S LEFT?

 

WE ASSUME YOU'RE RUNNING AGAIN,

 

BUT WHAT'S LEFT ON THE HORIZON?

 

>> THESE CAMPAIGN CYCLES ARE FAR

 

TOO LONG.

 

WE HAVE ANOTHER LEGISLATIVE

 

AGENDA IN JANUARY THAT WE'LL

 

HAVE ANOTHER STATE OF THE STATE,

 

AND THEN THERE IS A DATE FOR

 

DECISIONS IN 2018.

 

I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY TO TALK

 

ABOUT THAT.

 

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE

 

APPROPRIATE TIME.

 

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CLOSE UP

 

THIS SESSION, SIGN THIS BUDGET,

 

AND BEGIN TO PUT THE PLANS

 

TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE

 

ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL LEGISLATIVE

 

SESSION AND STATE OF THE STATE

 

IN JANUARY.

 

>>> DESPITE ADDITIONAL PAY FOR

 

TEACHERS AND MONEY FOR THE

 

CLASSROOMS, MORE THAN A DOZEN

 

EDUCATION ADVOCACY GROUPS SAY

 

LAWMAKERS FAILED THE MORE THAN 1

 

MILLION CHILDREN IN ARIZONA

 

SCHOOLS.

 

ARIZONA CONTINUES TO RANK AMONG

 

THE LOWEST IN THE COUNTRY FOR

 

SCHOOL FUNDING.

 

JEN DARLAND REPRESENTS ARIZONA

 

SCHOOLS NOW.

 

>> THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT

 

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE

 

STATUS QUO.

 

WE HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE IN THE

 

BUDGET TO DO A BIG, BOLD

 

INVESTMENT, AND WHAT WE DO KNOW

 

REALLY DRIVES RESULTS IN THE

 

CLASSROOM WHICH IS HAVING A

 

QUALIFIED, CERTIFIED TEACHER IN

 

FRONT OF THE STUDENTS.

 

UNFORTUNATELY THE PRIORITIES IN

 

THIS BUDGET DON'T SUPPORT

 

KEEPING TEACHERS IN THE

 

CLASSROOM.

 

SO WE'RE REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN

 

THAT, THAT THAT WASN'T

 

NECESSARILY THE BIG, BOLD NEXT

 

STEP THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED

 

FOLLOWING THE PASSAGE OF PROP

 

123.

 

>> IT SEEMED BEFORE THE BUDGET

 

PASSED, THERE WAS SOME HOPE THAT

 

PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING

 

THAT ADVOCACY GROUPS LIKE YOU'RE

 

INVOLVED WITH WOULD BE HAPPY

 

WITH OR HAPPIER WITH.

 

>> YES.

 

WE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF HOPE.

 

IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO

 

HAVE A BUDGET PROPOSAL WHICH WE

 

PUT FORWARD, WHICH FOUND THE

 

AVAILABLE DOLLARS AND FOUND

 

THREE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT

 

DID NOT REQUIRE A TAX INCREASE.

 

WE HAD HOPED THAT WHAT IT WOULD

 

DO IS PROVIDE A MODERATING

 

COMPONENT, RIGHT, SO THAT IT

 

WOULD PUSH FROM THE 0.4% AS THE

 

GOVERNOR HAD PROPOSED, NOT

 

NECESSARILY A FULL 4%.

 

WE WERE REALLY KIND OF HOPING

 

FOR A BOLDER, CLOSE TO A 2% THIS

 

YEAR, BUT REALLY HAD HOPED THAT

 

THE 4% WOULD HAVE COME THROUGH

 

IN THE END.

 

WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD -- WE

 

KNOW THAT WE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC

 

SUPPORT BEHIND THIS.

 

BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE IDN'T HAVE

 

THE CHAMPIONS IN EITHER CHAMBERS

 

TO SEE THAT THROUGH.

 

>> WE OFTEN HERE THAT MONEY

 

CAN'T SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS.

 

IS THAT WHAT ARIZONA NEEDS RIGHT

 

NOW?

 

>> I WOULD SAY MONEY IS THE

 

SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.

 

WE HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM IN THE

 

STATE OF ARIZONA.

 

EVEN AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY IN

 

REPORTS, EVEN GOVERNOR BREWER

 

FEELS LIKE SOME OF THE TAX CUTS

 

ARE A LITTLE TOO EXTREME.

 

WE ARE CONSISTENTLY DENYING OUR

 

SCHOOLS $1 BILLION EVERY YEAR,

 

FUNDING THAT THEY NEED FOR 21st

 

CENTURY TOOLS AND RESOURCES AS

 

WELL AS SAFE CLASSROOMS.

 

WE KNOW THAT THAT'S ALSO

 

IMPACTING THE ABILITY FOR OUR

 

SCHOOL GOVERNING BOARDS TO MAKE

 

DECISIONS OVER PROVIDING TEACHER

 

RAISES OR KEEPING AN HVAC SYSTEM

 

WORKING OR HAVING DOORS THAT

 

ACTUALLY LOCK.

 

WE HEARD FROM A TEACHER ACTUALLY

 

IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA AT ONE OF

 

OUR BUDGET PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT

 

HER CLASSROOM DOOR DOES NOT

 

LOCK.

 

SO IN A LOCKDOWN SITUATION, SHE

 

HAS TO TAKE HER CLASS OF 30

 

STUDENTS INTO HER COLLEAGUE'S

 

CLASSROOM TO LOCK THE DOOR.

 

AND WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE

 

BASICS OF NOT BEING ABLE TO

 

ENSURE THAT OUR CLASSROOMS ARE

 

SECURE, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM.

 

SO OUR PERSPECTIVE IS THAT

 

THERE'S A REVENUE PROBLEM, BUT

 

THERE'S ALSO JUST SORT OF A

 

PRIORITIZATION OF WAYS TO

 

STRATEGICALLY INVEST TO ENSURE

 

THAT WE HAVE QUALITY EDUCATIONAL

 

PROGRAMS FOR OUR KIDS AND FOR

 

OUR FAMILIES.

 

>> WHO'S RESPONSIBLE?

 

SHOULD MORE ATTENTION BE GIVEN

 

TO THE SCHOOL BOARDS TO SAY,

 

DISTRIBUTE THIS MONEY FOR FAIRLY

 

BECAUSE IT CAN'T NECESSARILY ALL

 

BE PLACED ON THE STATE?

 

>> WELL, RESPECTFULLY, GOVERNING

 

BOARDS ARE GIVEN THE BUDGETS

 

FROM THE LEGISLATURE.

 

GOVERNING BOARDS DO NOT HAVE THE

 

POWER OF THE PURSE.

 

THAT IS A POWER ENTRUSTED TO OUR

 

ELECTED LEADERS BY OUR STATE

 

CONSTITUTION.

 

GOVERNING BOARDS ARE STRICTLY

 

BEHOLDEN TO APPROPRIATE ATING

 

FUNDS FOR THEIR DISTRICTS AND

 

THEY ARE ELECTED AND ENTRUSTED

 

BY LOCAL CITIZEN BODY TO

 

PROPERLY AND STRATEGICALLY

 

INVEST TO MATCH THE PRIORITIES

 

OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

 

I THINK THAT IT IS PASSING A

 

BUCK FOR ELECTED LEADERS TO

 

PLACE BLAME ON ELECTED GOVERNING

 

BOARDS WHO ARE NOT PAID.

 

THEY ARE THERE AS VOLUNTEERS.

 

AND THEY WANT NOTHING MORE THAN

 

TO PROPERLY COMPENSATE TEACHERS,

 

AND THEY WANT NOTHING MORE THAN

 

TO ENSURE THAT THEIR FACILITIES

 

ARE SAFE AND 21st CENTURY

 

EQUIPPED.

 

BUT UNFORTUNATELY WHEN THEY'RE

 

FACING THE BUDGET WHERE WE HAVE

 

EITHER ROLLED OVER $900 MILLION

 

ANNUALLY OR WE HAVE SUSPENDED

 

OVER $300 MILLION FOR K-12, WHAT

 

ARE THEY LEFT TO DO?

 

THEY'RE DOING THE VERY BEST THAT

 

THEY CAN.

 

>> WHAT DOES ARIZONA LOOK LIKE

 

IF MORE MONEY WERE PUMPED INTO

 

THE CLASSROOMS?

 

>> I THINK THAT ARIZONA STARTS

 

TO LOOK LIKE A TRUE ECONOMIC

 

POWERHOUSE.

 

I THINK THAT WE HAVE THREE

 

AMAZING UNIVERSITIES.

 

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL CLIMATE IN

 

WHICH WE CAN BE EXPERIMENTING ON

 

RENEWABLE ENERGY SECTOR, WHICH

 

SEEMS TO BE EVEN A GROWING

 

INTEREST.

 

I THINK PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO

 

INVEST IN THAT.

 

I THINK WE HAVE A PERFECT

 

CLIMATE FOR FAMILIES.

 

I THINK THAT WE COULD ATTRACT --

 

AND I DON'T EVEN THINK IT.

 

I KNOW IT.

 

I KNOW BUSINESS LEADERS HAVE

 

COMMUNICATED TO LOCAL

 

ORGANIZATIONS AND CHAMBERS AND

 

FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO RECRUIT

 

THEM HERE SAYING, LISTEN, YOU'VE

 

GOT THE PERFECT GOLF COURSES.

 

YOU'VE GOT THE GREAT TAX

 

CLIMATE.

 

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF

 

YOU DON'T HAVE A PROPERLY FUNDED

 

EDUCATION SYSTEM, I CAN'T BRING

 

PEOPLE HERE, AND I DON'T -- I

 

WANT ASK PEOPLE TO RAISE THEIR

 

CHILDREN HERE.

 

I THINK THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY

 

BE ON THE VERGE OF BEING A

 

LEADER IN THE MISSION.

 

>> THE BUDGETARY PLAN PRESENTS A

 

CHALLENGE FOR THE PIMA COUNTY

 

SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE.

 

MANAGING RESOURCES AND NEEDS ARE

 

TWO OF THE TOP CONCERNS.

 

HERE'S RICKY HERNANDEZ, THE

 

CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

 

>> IN PIMA COUNTY, WHEN IT COMES

 

TO JUST SCHOOL DISTRICTS ALONE,

 

WE'RE TALKING WELL OVER 200

 

PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

 

THAT INCLUDES EVEN OUR CHARTER

 

SCHOOLS HERE IN PIMA COUNTY.

 

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A

 

SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF KIDS, WELL

 

OVER 140,000 KIDS JUST IN PUBLIC

 

SCHOOL ALONE HERE IN PIMA

 

COUNTY.

 

>> A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WONDER

 

HOW SCHOOLS IN THE NORTH

 

FOOTHILLS OR EASTERN PIMA COUNTY

 

HAVE THINGS THAT KIDS ON THE

 

SOUTH SIDE DON'T HAVE.

 

CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT REALLY

 

WORKS?

 

I MEAN THE TAX BASE, IT'S ALL

 

DIFFERENT.

 

>> AND THAT'S PART OF IT IS THAT

 

A LOT OF -- WE HAVE A LOT OF

 

DIFFERENT ELEMENTS GOING ON

 

THROUGHOUT PIMA COUNTY.

 

I MEAN FROM LIKE YOU ALLUDED TO

 

THE CATALINA FOOTHILLS AREA AND

 

THE EASTERN PART OF TUCSON.

 

YOU HAVE CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES

 

AND YOU HAVE A TAX BASE THAT IS

 

VERY DIFFERENT TO PEOPLE WHO

 

LIVE MAYBE OUT IN THREE POINTS

 

OR DOWN ON SOUTH 12th AVENUE IN

 

THE SUNNYSIDE AREA.

 

SO THEY HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS

 

AS A COMMUNITY THROUGH THEIR

 

ELECTED GOVERNING BOARDS ON WHAT

 

ARE THE PRIORITIES FOR THEIR

 

KIDS AND THEIR SCHOOLS IN THOSE

 

AREAS OF TOWN TO REALLY THINK

 

ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO

 

ACCOMPLISH IN TERMS OF THE

 

EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR THE

 

STUDENTS THERE.

 

>> HELP ME UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I

 

KNOW THE STATE CONSTITUTION

 

REQUIRES ONE THING, AND THEN

 

INDIVIDUALLY SCHOOL DISTRICTS

 

HAVE VERY IMPORTANT DECISIONS TO

 

MAKE.

 

SO WHO ULTIMATELY IS THE

 

DECIDING FACTOR?

 

>> REALLY THE ULTIMATE DECIDING

 

FACTOR IS OUR LOCALLY CONTROLLED

 

SCHOOL BOARDS.

 

THEY ARE ELECTED BY THEIR

 

COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BY THEIR

 

VOTERS, BY THEIR PEERS TO

 

REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THOSE

 

COMMUNITIES.

 

OUR STATE-ELECTED LEADERS

 

OBVIOUSLY SET A DIRECTION AND A

 

TONE FOR WHAT PUBLIC EDUCATION

 

SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE STATE,

 

BUT ULTIMATELY THE

 

RESPONSIBILITY IS FOR OUR LOCAL

 

ELECTED OFFICIALS TO REALLY MAKE

 

THAT DECISION ON WHAT THEY WANT

 

TO HAVE HAPPEN IN THEIR

 

PARTICULAR COMMUNITY IN PIMA

 

COUNTY.

 

>> WHERE IS THE BOUNDARY, THE

 

BALANCE, THEN, WITH WHAT THE

 

STATE CONSTITUTION MANDATES

 

BECAUSE IT IS VERY CLEAR AND

 

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A LAWSUIT

 

THAT CAME OUT LAST WEEK.

 

>> AND I THINK THAT BOUNDARY

 

REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT IS THAT

 

LINE IN THE SAND IS KIND OF THE

 

WAY WE LOOK AT IT.

 

IT'S REALLY SET BY OUR STATEWIDE

 

ELECTED LEADERS.

 

LOCALLY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE

 

DECISIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO

 

OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR KIDS, OUR

 

TEACHERS, OUR SCHOOLS.

 

BUT IF WE RECEIVE SPECIFIC

 

DIRECTION FROM OUR STATE

 

LEGISLATURE, FROM OUR GOVERNOR

 

THAT SAYS THESE ARE THE

 

PRIORITIES AND THIS IS WHAT WE

 

THINK YOU SHOULD BE DOING, WE'RE

 

GOING TO FOLLOW THOSE TO THE

 

BEST OF OUR ABILITY WITHIN THE

 

CONFINES OF THE RESOURCES THAT

 

WE HAVE.

 

MAKING A DECISION OVER TEACHER

 

PAY VERSUS CLASSROOM TECHNOLOGY,

 

FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A STUDENT,

 

THOSE THINGS ARE NOT MUTUALLY

 

EXCLUSIVE.

 

I MEAN THEY'RE JUST AS EQUALLY

 

IMPORTANT TO HAVE A HIGHLY

 

EFFECTIVE AND WELL-PAID,

 

WELL-COMPENSATED TEACHER JUST AS

 

MUCH AS A WELL-RESOURCED STUDENT

 

TO BE ACADEMICALLY SUCCESSFUL.

 

>> THERE'S SOME TOUGH DECISIONS

 

YOU HAVE TO MAKE SOMETIMES.

 

>> THERE ARE VERY DIFFICULT

 

DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE.

 

LIKE I ALLUDED TO BEFORE,

 

SOMETIMES WE GET INTO THE

 

CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT

 

IS IT TO GIVE A TEACHER A 1%

 

VERSUS A 4% RAISE WHILE WE HAVE

 

A CRUMBLING SCHOOL BUILDING OR

 

MAYBE WE HAVE A LACK OF A

 

TEXTBOOK OR COMPUTER LAB, FOR

 

EXAMPLE, IN ANY ONE OF THE

 

SCHOOLS IN PIMA COUNTY.

 

AND THOSE DECISIONS ARE VERY

 

DIFFICULT TO MAKE BECAUSE HOW DO

 

YOU MAKE -- HOW DO YOU MAKE THEM

 

IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN SAY, WE

 

VALUE X VERSUS Y?

 

AND THAT'S THE TOUGHEST PART OF

 

THE JOB.

 

>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS

 

THAT YOU FACTOR INTO THOSE TOUGH

 

DECISIONS, LIKE TEACHER RAISE OR

 

TEXTBOOKS?

 

>> SO WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT

 

OBVIOUSLY -- YOU KNOW, WHEN IT

 

COMES TO TEXTBOOKS, FOR EXAMPLE,

 

AND EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, WE

 

HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT CHANGING

 

STANDARDS.

 

IF WE ARE MOVE AGO WAY FROM

 

SPECIFIC STANDARDS, DO OUR

 

MATERIALS ALIGN PROPERLY TO

 

THOSE STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE OUR

 

STUDENTS ARE LEARNING WHAT

 

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AND

 

ACHIEVING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED

 

TO BE DOING.

 

AT THE SAME TIME, TRYING TO

 

RETAIN TEACHERS.

 

YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM

 

RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH

 

TEACHERS IS NOT JUST RECRUITMENT

 

BUT RETENTION OF THE TEACHERS

 

THAT WE DO HAVE.

 

AND WHAT DO WE DO IN ORDER TO

 

MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THOSE

 

TEACHERS WELL COMPENSATED, WELL

 

PREPARED AND MAKING SURE THEY

 

CONTINUE TO BE WELL SUPPORTED IN

 

THE CLASSROOM.

 

>> AMONG THE BILLS PASSED AND

 

SIGNED THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION,

 

LOOSENING REQUIREMENTS TO GET

 

QUALIFIED PEOPLE TEACHING IN THE

 

CLASSROOM.

 

IT'S REPORTED THERE ARE

 

APPROXIMATELY 2,000 TEACHER

 

VACANCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

 

GOVERNOR DUCEY SAYS SCHOOL

 

DISTRICTS, NOT THE STATE BOARD

 

OF EDUCATION, SHOULD DECIDE

 

WHO'S QUALIFIED.

 

AT ST. AUGUSTINE HIGH SCHOOL,

 

THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF TEACHERS

 

WITH OTHER WORK EXPERIENCES WHO

 

ARE TEACHING.

 

DAVID OBOYSKI TEACHES AND SERVES

 

AS THE ADMISSIONS COUNSELOR AND

 

MARKETING COORDINATOR.

 

>> I GRADUATED FROM CLAJ BACK IN

 

'90 AND I WORKED FOR THE CIA AS

 

AN INTELLIGENCE ANALYST, AN

 

INTELLIGENCE OFFICER, AND I DID

 

THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND

 

WENT INTO MARKETING AND PUBLIC

 

RELATIONS AFTER GETTING MY

 

EDUCATION DEGREE, AND DID THAT

 

FOR ABOUT 15, 20 YEARS, AND

 

FOUND MY WAY BACK TO EDUCATION

 

AGAIN.

 

>> HOW DID THOSE CAREERS HELP

 

YOU BECOME A TEACHER?

 

>> I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE THINGS

 

THAT CIA DID THAT HELPED ME

 

TREMENDOUSLY WAS PRESENTATION

 

SKILLS.

 

I WAS TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO

 

DIGEST INFORMATION VERY QUICKLY,

 

ORGANIZE IT IN MY HEAD, AND THEN

 

PRESENT IT OFF THE TOP OF MY

 

HEAD TO TOP-LEVEL POLICYMAKERS,

 

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES.

 

I DID BRIEFINGS FOR TWO PEOPLE

 

TO 100 PEOPLE, AND THAT HELPED A

 

LOT WHEN I GOT INTO EDUCATION,

 

ESPECIALLY WITH WORKING WITH

 

HIGH SCHOOLERS.

 

TOUGHEST AUDIENCE THAW CAN EVER

 

DEAL WITH.

 

>> HOW DID YOU HANDLE COLLEAGUES

 

IN SCHOOL WHO WERE A LITTLE, YOU

 

KNOW, WONDERING CAN YOU DO WHAT

 

I DO GIVEN THAT YOUR BACKGROUND

 

IS DIFFERENT?

 

>> THAT ONE -- THAT'S A TOUGH

 

ONE.

 

MOST PEOPLE WERE OPEN TO IT OR

 

AT LEAST SKEPTICAL IN A HIDDEN

 

WAY BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T

 

KNOW.

 

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO OR

 

WHAT YOU DID.

 

THEY HAVE -- I'D LIKE TO SAY

 

THAT IT'S TRUE CONCEPTION OF

 

YOU'RE LIKE SUPERMAN BECAUSE YOU

 

WORKED FOR CIA, WHICH IS NOT THE

 

CASE.

 

MOST TEACHERS WANT FIRST TO KNOW

 

THAT THEIR COLLEAGUES ARE GOING

 

TO KEEP CONTROL OF THE CLASS

 

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT KEEPING

 

CONTROL OF YOUR CLASS,

 

ESPECIALLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL

 

LEVEL, YOU'RE PASSING THEM ALONG

 

OUT OF CONTROL TO THE NEXT

 

CLASS.

 

IF YOU CAN DO THAT AND THEN YOU

 

CAN TEACH ON TOP OF IT, THEN

 

THEY LOVE YOU.

 

AND THAT WAS JUST A MATTER OF

 

TIME, SHOWING THAT I WAS

 

COMPETENT, THAT I WAS ABLE TO

 

TEACH, THAT I WAS ABLE TO ENGAGE

 

THE STUDENTS AND MAKE

 

CONNECTIONS WITH THEM.

 

>> YOU LEFT THE CIA AND

 

MARKETING FOR THE CLASSROOM.

 

>> I DID.

 

GOD MADE ME IS HOW I TALK ABOUT

 

IT AS A CATHOLIC SCHOOLTEACHER

 

AND AN ADMINISTRATOR.

 

I WAS DOING VERY WELL, MAKING

 

VERY GOOD MONEY.

 

I HAD ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IF I

 

COULD GET A GOOD NEST EGG AND

 

RETIRE A LITTLE EARLY, I'D LOVE

 

TO GO BACK TO THE CLASSROOM

 

AGAIN.

 

BUT I THINK WE CALLED IT THE

 

GOLDEN HANDCUFF.

 

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST TOO MUCH

 

OF A DROP TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT

 

MY FAMILY TO LEAVE.

 

BUT FORTUNATELY GOD HAD A

 

RECESSION IN MIND, AND I GOT

 

LAID OFF RIGHT AT THE START OF

 

THE RECESSION.

 

I WAS OUT OF WORK FOR FIVE

 

YEARS, AND IT WAS DEVASTATING TO

 

MY FAMILY, BUT I HAD TO FIND

 

SOME WAYS TO MAKE MONEY.

 

SO I HAD AN EDUCATION DEGREE.

 

I WENT BACK AND SUBBED, AND

 

FUNNY GIVEN THE TOPIC WE'RE

 

DISCUSSING, CERTIFICATION WAS

 

ONE OF THE ISSUES.

 

WE WERE LIVING IN KANSAS AT THE

 

TIME.

 

I HAD BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 20

 

YEARS.

 

I HAD BEEN A CIA INTELLIGENCE

 

OFFICER.

 

HI A DEGREE IN EDUCATION.

 

I HAD BEEN ELIGIBLE TO BE

 

CERTIFIED WHEN I GRADUATED BUT

 

NEVER GOT TO DO IT BECAUSE I

 

DIDN'T LAND A JOB.

 

BUT IN ORDER FOR ME TO GET

 

CERTIFIED TO BE A FULL-TIME

 

TEACHER OTHER THAN A SUBSTITUTE

 

IN KANSAS, I WOULD HAVE HAD TO

 

GO BACK TO SCHOOL FOR ANOTHER

 

YEAR TO GET CERTIFIED.

 

I COULDN'T AFFORD THAT AT THE

 

TIME.

 

AND SO I COULD ONLY SUBSTITUTE

 

TEACH.

 

SO WHEN WE CAME OUT TO ARIZONA,

 

I WAS ABLE TO GET A SUB

 

CERTIFICATE HERE, AND THEN I WAS

 

ABLE TO TAKE JUST A COUPLE OF

 

TESTS AND ONE OR TWO COURSES

 

THAT I COULD TAKE THROUGH PIMA

 

OR SOMEWHERE ELSE JUST TO PLUG A

 

COUPLE OF GAPS, AND ABLE TO GET

 

BACK AND GET MY CERTIFICATION SO

 

I COULD TEACH AGAIN.

 

BUT IT WAS A LOT OF HOOPS TO

 

JUMP THROUGH, AND I'D LOVE TO

 

TELL YOU THAT BY DOING THAT, I

 

WAS A MUCH BETTER TEACHER.

 

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE

 

CORRELATION BETWEEN

 

CERTIFICATION AND QUALITY -- I'M

 

BIASED, I THINK I'M PRETTY GOOD.

 

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT ADDED

 

THAT MUCH.

 

BUT THOSE WERE THE HOOPS WE HAD

 

TO JUMP THROUGH, AND I DID, AND

 

I GOT TO TEACH.

 

>> WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN A SHAME

 

IF SOMEONE WITH YOUR BACKGROUND

 

AND EXPERIENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN

 

DISCOURAGED BY ALL THOSE HOOPS

 

AND NEVER BEEN IN THE CLASSROOM

 

TO SHARE YOUR RICH EXPERIENCE

 

WITH THESE STUDENTS?

 

>> I THINK WE'RE MISSING OUT.

 

I THINK WHEN WE PUT THOSE

 

BARRIERS TO ENTRY -- I TAUGHT

 

ECONOMICS FOR A WHILE -- WE'RE

 

NOT ALLOWING OURSELVES A RICH

 

ENOUGH GENE POOL OF EDUCATION

 

AND EDUCATORS.

 

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ANYBODY CAN

 

WALK IN THE CLASSROOM.

 

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY TRUE.

 

BUT IT ALSO MEANS THERE ARE

 

PEOPLE WHO HAVE THOSE GIFTS THAT

 

WITH SOME SHAPING, SOME

 

STRUCTURE, SOME GUIDANCE DON'T

 

NECESSARILY NEED TO GO THROUGH

 

ALL OF THE PEDAGOGICAL ROUTINE

 

OF COLLEGE COURSES AND TEACHING

 

INTERNSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE

 

THAT.

 

THEY COULD DO THAT ON THE JOB.

 

THERE'S WAYS TO STRUCTURE THAT.

 

BUT WITH CERTIFICATION RIGHT

 

NOW, THAT'S NOT -- YOU KNOW, I'M

 

GLAD TO SEE THAT THE GOVERNOR

 

AND THE LEGISLATURE DECIDE TO

 

MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

 

AND I DON'T THINK THEY'VE

 

WATERED THE STANDARDS DOWN SO

 

MUCH.

 

I MEAN FIVE YEARS ON THE JOB IN

 

A PROFESSION RELATED TO WHAT

 

YOU'RE TEACHING IS PRETTY

 

SUBSTANTIAL.

 

IT WOULD HAVE KEPT ME OUT FROM

 

CIA.

 

I WAS ONLY THERE FOR TWO YEARS.

 

NOW, I PROBABLY HAD ENOUGH

 

BACKGROUND IN OTHER AREAS THAT I

 

COULD COME IN AS A SOCIAL

 

STUDIES TEACHER ON THE ECONOMICS

 

AND OTHER SIDE OF THAT, BUT I

 

THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

 

AND I THINK WE'RE -- WE GIVE

 

STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY AT THE

 

LEVEL OF SECONDARY LEVEL, MIDDLE

 

SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL, HAVING

 

PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD A LOT OF

 

REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE IS A NICE

 

THING TO ADD TO THE MIX.

 

>>> OTHER NEWS THIS WEEK.

 

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP FIRING

 

FBI DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY.

 

A SURPRISE TO MANY INCLUDING

 

CONGRESSMAN RAUL GRIJALVA.

 

HE'S IN ARIZONA THIS WEEK

 

MEETING WITH CONSTITUENTS.

 

>> I THINK THE INVOLVEMENT OF

 

SESSIONS, TRUMP, AND THIS

 

DISMISSAL OF COMEY BEGINS TO

 

SMELL VERY BADLY LIKE A

 

COVER-UP.

 

IT BEGINS TO SMELL VERY BADLY OF

 

PEOPLE TRYING TO COVER THEIR

 

TRACKS AND TO PUT ALL THEIR

 

PROSECUTORIAL AUTHORITY IN THE

 

HANDS OF SESSIONS SO THAT

 

NOTHING ELSE MOVES.

 

THIS IS NOW WHY THE CALL IS FOR

 

INDEPENDENT COUNSEL TO

 

INVESTIGATE, AN INDEPENDENT

 

PROSECUTOR TO PROSECUTE.

 

IF WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE

 

BOTTOM OF THIS, I THINK THAT'S

 

GOING TO BE THE ONLY WAY.

 

THE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE

 

AND THE HOUSE ARE DRAGGING THEIR

 

FEET.

 

THEY WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT HOW

 

THE PRESS GOT A HOLD OF THE

 

INFORMATION, A LEAK, THAN THEY

 

WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REAL

 

ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, WHICH IS

 

THE POTENTIAL OF TRUMP

 

CAMPAIGNING AND ASSOCIATES

 

WORKING WITH RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE

 

AND TO TRY TO TWIST OUR ELECTION

 

IN A CERTAIN WAY.

 

I THINK WE HAVE TO PURSUE THAT

 

DILIGENTLY BECAUSE IT SMELLS.

 

>> MORE ANALYSIS WITH

 

CONGRESSMAN GRIJALVA ON NEXT

 

WEEK'S PROGRAM AS WE EXPLORE HOW

 

THE POSSIBLE REPEAL OF THE

 

AFFORDABLE CARE ACT COULD IMPACT

 

ARIZONA.

 

AND THAT'S OUR PROGRAM.

 

FOR ALL OF US AT ARIZONA PUBLIC

 

MEDIA, I'M LORRAINE RIVERA.

 

THANKS FOR JOINING US.