WEBVTT 00:02.369 --> 00:07.672 align:start >>> THE THWARTED AFTER 18 YEARS 00:07.675 --> 00:08.906 align:start IN THE U.S. 00:08.909 --> 00:10.742 align:start >> I DON'T KNOW NOBODY HERE. 00:10.745 --> 00:12.777 align:start >> SOUTH OF THE BORDER, 00:12.780 --> 00:13.144 align:start BINATIONAL WORK TO HELP 00:13.147 --> 00:14.712 align:start MIGRANTS. 00:14.715 --> 00:16.180 align:start >> WE'RE TRYING TO RESPOND TO 00:16.183 --> 00:17.148 align:start THEIR HUMAN DIGNITY, TO THEIR 00:17.151 --> 00:18.049 align:start HUMAN NEED. 00:18.052 --> 00:21.352 align:start >> PLUS ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN 00:21.355 --> 00:21.686 align:start McCAIN ANNOUNCES HE HAS BRAIN 00:21.689 --> 00:22.286 align:start CANCER. 00:22.289 --> 00:30.528 align:start THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." 00:30.531 --> 00:32.864 align:start ♪♪ 00:32.867 --> 00:33.164 align:start >>> HELLO AN THANKS FOR JOINING 00:33.167 --> 00:34.465 align:start US. 00:34.468 --> 00:37.068 align:start THIS WEEK ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN 00:37.071 --> 00:37.368 align:start McCAIN ANNOUNCED HE HAS A BRAIN 00:37.371 --> 00:39.904 align:start TUMOR. 00:39.907 --> 00:42.240 align:start HERE IS ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA'S 00:42.243 --> 00:44.175 align:start CHRISTOPHER CONOVER WITH MORE. 00:44.178 --> 00:45.443 align:start >> THE DIAGNOSIS WAS ANNOUNCED 00:45.446 --> 00:47.111 align:start DAYS AFTER SENATOR McCAIN'S 00:47.114 --> 00:48.079 align:start OFFICE SAID HE HAD A BLOOD CLOT 00:48.082 --> 00:49.914 align:start REMOVED OVER HIS LEFT EYE. 00:49.917 --> 00:51.215 align:start A BIOPSY OF THAT CLOT REVEALED 00:51.218 --> 00:52.483 align:start IT WAS AN AGGRESSIVE FORM OF 00:52.486 --> 00:54.452 align:start BRAIN CANCER. 00:54.455 --> 00:56.654 align:start HIS SURGEONS SAY THEY REMOVED 00:56.657 --> 00:58.089 align:start ALL THE CANCER AND NOW A COURSE 00:58.092 --> 00:58.489 align:start OF CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION 00:58.492 --> 01:00.391 align:start WILL BEGIN. 01:00.394 --> 01:01.959 align:start AFTER THE ANNOUNCEMENT SENATOR 01:01.962 --> 01:03.861 align:start McCAIN SENT OUT A TWEET THANKING 01:03.864 --> 01:05.063 align:start PEOPLE FOR THE WELL WISHES AND 01:05.066 --> 01:05.897 align:start ALSO PROMISING HE WILL BE BACK 01:05.900 --> 01:08.166 align:start AT WORK SOON. 01:08.169 --> 01:08.533 align:start THE DIAGNOSIS DOES RAISE 01:08.536 --> 01:09.634 align:start QUESTIONS. 01:09.637 --> 01:11.636 align:start WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SENATOR 01:11.639 --> 01:13.971 align:start CANNOT SERVE OUT HIS TERM? 01:13.974 --> 01:14.272 align:start HE'S ONLY MONTHS INTO HIS SIXTH 01:14.275 --> 01:16.741 align:start TERM. 01:16.744 --> 01:17.909 align:start WE SPOKE WITH JOE CANEFIELD A 01:17.912 --> 01:18.276 align:start FORMER ARIZONA ELECTIONS 01:18.279 --> 01:20.078 align:start DIRECTOR. 01:20.081 --> 01:21.012 align:start HE SAID THE LAW IS CLEAR, THE 01:21.015 --> 01:23.414 align:start GOVERNOR APPOINTS SOMEONE TO 01:23.417 --> 01:24.916 align:start TAKE THE SEAT UNTIL THE NEXT 01:24.919 --> 01:26.384 align:start STATEWIDE ELECTION. 01:26.387 --> 01:27.952 align:start SOME HAVE QUESTIONED WHETHER 01:27.955 --> 01:30.054 align:start GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY COULD 01:30.057 --> 01:30.955 align:start APPOINT HIMSELF TO THE POSITION, 01:30.958 --> 01:32.857 align:start CANEFIELD SAYS YES. 01:32.860 --> 01:34.392 align:start IF SENATOR McCAIN LEAVES OFFICE 01:34.395 --> 01:35.827 align:start WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR IT WOULD 01:35.830 --> 01:37.161 align:start PUT BOTH OF ARIZONA'S U.S. 01:37.164 --> 01:40.231 align:start SENATE SEATS ON THE BALLOT 01:40.234 --> 01:42.166 align:start DURING THE 2018 ELECTION SEASON. 01:42.169 --> 01:44.135 align:start >>> ON TO OTHER NEWS THIS WEEK, 01:44.138 --> 01:45.603 align:start THE TUCSON SECTOR OF THE U.S. 01:45.606 --> 01:47.305 align:start BORDER PATROL ANNOUNCED IT IS 01:47.308 --> 01:49.340 align:start BRINGING BACK A PROGRAM THAT IT 01:49.343 --> 01:51.576 align:start HOPES WILL DETER MIGRANTS FROM 01:51.579 --> 01:53.611 align:start ENTERING THE U.S. ILLEGALLY BY 01:53.614 --> 01:55.079 align:start PROSECUTING FIRST-TIME CROSSERS. 01:55.082 --> 01:57.682 align:start THE PROGRAM FAN IN JUNE AND 01:57.685 --> 01:58.015 align:start ALREADY 600 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 01:58.018 --> 01:59.917 align:start CHARGED. 01:59.920 --> 02:02.653 align:start AN AGENCY SPOKESMAN TOOK ARIZONA 02:02.656 --> 02:04.689 align:start PUBLIC MEDIA ON A RIDE ALONG. 02:04.692 --> 02:05.089 align:start HERE HE IS WITH MORE ON THE 02:05.092 --> 02:06.491 align:start INITIATIVE. 02:06.494 --> 02:07.725 align:start >> THE MINDSET BETWEEN THE FIRST 02:07.728 --> 02:09.694 align:start TIME CROSSING APPREHENSION WAS 02:09.697 --> 02:11.362 align:start TO PREVENT THE LOSS OF LIFE. 02:11.365 --> 02:12.463 align:start SO MANY PEOPLE TAKE THE RISK 02:12.466 --> 02:16.200 align:start SPECIFICALLY IN THE WEST DESERT, 02:16.203 --> 02:18.636 align:start WEST OF TUCSON, AND THOSE PEOPLE 02:18.639 --> 02:21.239 align:start GENERALLY FEEL THAT CROSSING 02:21.242 --> 02:22.273 align:start THERE WOULD GET THEM INTO THE 02:22.276 --> 02:23.608 align:start UNITED STATES AND FACE VERY 02:23.611 --> 02:24.742 align:start LITTLE REPERCUSSIONS AS A RESULT 02:24.745 --> 02:26.110 align:start IF THEY DO GET CAUGHT. 02:26.113 --> 02:27.845 align:start SO WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT 02:27.848 --> 02:29.714 align:start PEOPLE FROM TAKING THAT JOURNEY 02:29.717 --> 02:30.047 align:start TO BEGIN WITH, BY HAVING A 02:30.050 --> 02:32.850 align:start PENALTY. 02:32.853 --> 02:35.786 align:start SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS ACTION 02:35.789 --> 02:36.787 align:start WILL CREATE A REDUCTION IN 02:36.790 --> 02:38.389 align:start RECIDIVISM FOR PEOPLE THAT TRY 02:38.392 --> 02:38.956 align:start TO CROSS INTO THE COUNTRY 02:38.959 --> 02:40.458 align:start ILLEGALLY AGAIN. 02:40.461 --> 02:41.692 align:start WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT SPREADS 02:41.695 --> 02:43.227 align:start THE WORD INTO MEXICO AND PEOPLE 02:43.230 --> 02:45.096 align:start KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 02:45.099 --> 02:46.297 align:start RISK EVEN IF THEY DO MAKE IT 02:46.300 --> 02:47.598 align:start SUCCESSFULLY THROUGH THE DESERT, 02:47.601 --> 02:49.033 align:start IF THEY DO GET CAUGHT SOMEWHERE 02:49.036 --> 02:49.800 align:start ALONG THE WAY THEY WILL BE 02:49.803 --> 02:51.269 align:start PROSECUTED FIRST TIME AND 02:51.272 --> 02:52.703 align:start RECEIVE A CRIMINAL RECORD AS A 02:52.706 --> 02:55.206 align:start RESULT OF THAT. 02:55.209 --> 02:56.641 align:start AND THE CRIMINAL CHARGE, 02:56.644 --> 02:58.142 align:start ALTHOUGH THE DETENTION TIME 02:58.145 --> 02:59.377 align:start MIGHT NOT BE AS SEVERE, THEY 02:59.380 --> 03:00.978 align:start MIGHT NOT BE HELD FOR A VERY 03:00.981 --> 03:04.081 align:start LONG TIME, THEY MIGHT BE SENT 03:04.084 --> 03:05.516 align:start BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN 03:05.519 --> 03:08.486 align:start RIGHT AWAY, THEY WILL STILL HAVE 03:08.489 --> 03:10.087 align:start A PENALTY THE NEXT TIME. 03:10.090 --> 03:11.289 align:start SIMILAR SECTORS SIMILAR TO THIS 03:11.292 --> 03:12.490 align:start TEMPERATURES TIME APPREHENSION 03:12.493 --> 03:14.091 align:start HAVE YIELDED POSITIVE RESULTS 03:14.094 --> 03:15.860 align:start AND HAVE SHOWN A SIGNIFICANT 03:15.863 --> 03:17.128 align:start REDUCTION IN RECIDIVISM OR 03:17.131 --> 03:18.429 align:start RE-ENTRY OF REMOVED PERSONS. 03:18.432 --> 03:19.964 align:start >>> DOES THAT MEAN THAT CROSSERS 03:19.967 --> 03:20.398 align:start WERE NOT PROSECUTED PRIOR TO 03:20.401 --> 03:21.132 align:start THIS? 03:21.135 --> 03:23.100 align:start >> CORRECT. 03:23.103 --> 03:24.602 align:start SO IN THE TUCSON SECTOR IN THE 03:24.605 --> 03:26.938 align:start LAST FEW YEARS MOST PEOPLE JUST 03:26.941 --> 03:28.773 align:start FACED AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGE 03:28.776 --> 03:30.675 align:start UPON THEIR FIRST ENTRY WHICH WAS 03:30.678 --> 03:31.075 align:start A VERY MILD CHARGE IN 03:31.078 --> 03:32.910 align:start COMPARISON. 03:32.913 --> 03:35.680 align:start THIS ONE HOLDS A CRIMINAL 03:35.683 --> 03:38.115 align:start CHARGE, A MISS DEMEANOR FOR 8 03:38.118 --> 03:41.018 align:start USC 1325 WHICH AS I MENTIONED 03:41.021 --> 03:43.955 align:start EARLIER THERE IS A POSSIBLE -- A 03:43.958 --> 03:45.356 align:start POSSIBILITY FOR LONG-TERM 03:45.359 --> 03:46.857 align:start DETENTION IF THEY ARE 03:46.860 --> 03:47.692 align:start REAPPREHENDED, IF THEY DO 03:47.695 --> 03:49.660 align:start RE-ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES. 03:49.663 --> 03:51.229 align:start >> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SECTOR IS 03:51.232 --> 03:53.297 align:start TAKING THIS MUCH MORE SERIOUSLY 03:53.300 --> 03:53.764 align:start IF YOU'RE PROSECUTING FIRST TIME 03:53.767 --> 03:55.066 align:start CROSSERS NOW. 03:55.069 --> 03:56.601 align:start >> PART OF THE REASON WE'RE 03:56.604 --> 03:59.804 align:start HOPING TO REDUCE DEATHS IN THE 03:59.807 --> 04:02.406 align:start WEST DESERT IS THAT THE TUCSON 04:02.409 --> 04:03.874 align:start SECTOR INVESTS A LOT OF TIME AND 04:03.877 --> 04:05.243 align:start ENERGY RESCUING PEOPLE AND WE 04:05.246 --> 04:06.510 align:start DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO 04:06.513 --> 04:10.081 align:start GET HURT IN THE WEST DESERT. 04:10.084 --> 04:11.282 align:start SO THE FIRST TIME APPREHENSION 04:11.285 --> 04:13.351 align:start PROSECUTION WE FEEL WOULD GIVE 04:13.354 --> 04:15.519 align:start US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PREVENT 04:15.522 --> 04:17.455 align:start PEOPLE FROM TAKING THE OPTION OF 04:17.458 --> 04:19.757 align:start COMING TO THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. 04:19.760 --> 04:20.925 align:start WE DON'T WANT THEM TO COME 04:20.928 --> 04:22.059 align:start ILLEGALLY, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO 04:22.062 --> 04:22.960 align:start RISK THEIR LIVES AND WE 04:22.963 --> 04:23.794 align:start DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO SEE 04:23.797 --> 04:25.096 align:start THEM GET HURT. 04:25.099 --> 04:26.497 align:start >> DOES THIS HAVE THE POTENTIAL 04:26.500 --> 04:26.998 align:start TO BACKLOG THE ADMINISTRATIVE 04:27.001 --> 04:29.033 align:start COURT SYSTEM? 04:29.036 --> 04:30.434 align:start >> WELL, THE REASON WHY WE 04:30.437 --> 04:31.769 align:start IMPLEMENTED IT NOW IS BECAUSE WE 04:31.772 --> 04:35.806 align:start DO HAVE THE RESOURCES, WE DO 04:35.809 --> 04:36.540 align:start HAVE THE TIME, WE DO HAVE THE 04:36.543 --> 04:37.675 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE SET IN PLACE THAT 04:37.678 --> 04:39.110 align:start WE CAN HOUSE THESE PEOPLE FOR A 04:39.113 --> 04:40.511 align:start SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. 04:40.514 --> 04:40.911 align:start THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE FACING 04:40.914 --> 04:42.647 align:start PROSECUTION. 04:42.650 --> 04:45.182 align:start WE CAN PROVIDE THEM A QUICK AND 04:45.185 --> 04:49.253 align:start EFFICIENT EXPEDIENT TRIAL. 04:49.256 --> 04:50.488 align:start IF BY SOME REASON THAT IS 04:50.491 --> 04:52.623 align:start COMPROMISED OR THAT CHANGES, WE 04:52.626 --> 04:55.059 align:start WILL ADDRESS IT OR READDRESS IT, 04:55.062 --> 04:56.360 align:start BUT AS OF NOW WE HAVE PLENTY OF 04:56.363 --> 04:58.162 align:start RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT 04:58.165 --> 04:59.830 align:start THE FIRST TIME PROSECUTION. 04:59.833 --> 05:01.465 align:start >>> WHAT THIS MEANS FOR CROSSERS 05:01.468 --> 05:03.367 align:start AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT THE COURT 05:03.370 --> 05:05.369 align:start SYSTEM IS STILL UP FOR DEBATE. 05:05.372 --> 05:07.038 align:start MATTHEW GREEN IS AN IMMIGRATION 05:07.041 --> 05:08.639 align:start ATTORNEY IN TUCSON, HE HAS 05:08.642 --> 05:08.973 align:start PRACTICED LAW FOR NEARLY 20 05:08.976 --> 05:10.741 align:start YEARS. 05:10.744 --> 05:13.010 align:start >> OPERATION STREAM LINE AS IT'S 05:13.013 --> 05:15.246 align:start KNOWN IS REALLY A KIND OF A PURE 05:15.249 --> 05:16.914 align:start MODEL THAT HASN'T EXISTED BY AND 05:16.917 --> 05:19.083 align:start LARGE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE 05:19.086 --> 05:21.018 align:start TIME HERE IN ARIZONA. 05:21.021 --> 05:24.221 align:start WHAT I MEAN BY A PURE MODEL IS 05:24.224 --> 05:26.424 align:start IT'S DESIGNED TO APPREHEND, 05:26.427 --> 05:28.192 align:start PROSECUTE, CONVICT AND 05:28.195 --> 05:29.860 align:start INCARCERATE EVERY SINGLE 05:29.863 --> 05:32.196 align:start UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT WHO IS 05:32.199 --> 05:33.664 align:start CAUGHT IN A PARTICULAR 05:33.667 --> 05:35.466 align:start JURISDICTION WHICH WOULD BE, YOU 05:35.469 --> 05:36.033 align:start KNOW, TUCSON AND SOUTH OF TUCSON 05:36.036 --> 05:38.469 align:start TO THE BOARDER 05:38.472 --> 05:38.903 align:start >> WAS THIS NOT HAPPENING 05:38.906 --> 05:41.639 align:start BEFORE? 05:41.642 --> 05:45.876 align:start >> IT WAS HAPPENING BRIEFLY IN 05:45.879 --> 05:48.713 align:start THE EARLY DAYS, I GUESS, OF THE 05:48.716 --> 05:51.482 align:start TUCSON PROGRAM, BUT IT BASICALLY 05:51.485 --> 05:52.483 align:start TRANSFORMED PRETTY QUICKLY 05:52.486 --> 05:55.386 align:start THEREAFTER INTO WHAT WE CALL 05:55.389 --> 05:55.853 align:start KIND OF A HYBRID FLIP-FLOP 05:55.856 --> 05:57.455 align:start PROGRAM. 05:57.458 --> 06:01.692 align:start A FLIP-FLOP PROGRAM IS SOMETHING 06:01.695 --> 06:03.227 align:start THAT PRETTY MUCH EXISTS IN EVERY 06:03.230 --> 06:05.396 align:start FEDERAL COURTHOUSE ACROSS THE 06:05.399 --> 06:08.399 align:start COUNTRY AND WHAT THAT REFERS TO 06:08.402 --> 06:10.701 align:start IS A SITUATION WHERE CERTAIN 06:10.704 --> 06:12.203 align:start DEFENDANTS WHO ARE CHARGED WITH 06:12.206 --> 06:14.004 align:start FELONIES ARE FAIRLY QUICKLY 06:14.007 --> 06:16.040 align:start IDENTIFIED AS BEING APPROPRIATE 06:16.043 --> 06:17.274 align:start TO RECEIVE MISDEMEANOR PLEA 06:17.277 --> 06:18.976 align:start AGREEMENTS, BUT THERE IS A 06:18.979 --> 06:20.611 align:start PRETTY SHORT FUSE ON THOSE PLEA 06:20.614 --> 06:22.613 align:start AGREEMENTS SO THE DEFENDANTS 06:22.616 --> 06:24.081 align:start NEED TO TAKE THOSE OR LOSE THOSE 06:24.084 --> 06:25.583 align:start WITHIN TYPICALLY THE FIRST WEEK 06:25.586 --> 06:27.752 align:start OR EVEN SOONER THAN THAT. 06:27.755 --> 06:29.320 align:start >> DOES THIS MEAN, THEN, THAT 06:29.323 --> 06:31.856 align:start PEOPLE ARE PUT IN FEDERAL 06:31.859 --> 06:33.391 align:start CUSTODY IMMEDIATELY AND THEN 06:33.394 --> 06:34.125 align:start THEY'RE FINED OR ARE THEY 06:34.128 --> 06:35.659 align:start DEPORTED AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT 06:35.662 --> 06:35.993 align:start WILL BE A PENALTY IF THEY 06:35.996 --> 06:39.263 align:start RETURN? 06:39.266 --> 06:40.564 align:start >> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY 06:40.567 --> 06:43.634 align:start DEPENDS ON HOW BOTH THE CUSTOMS 06:43.637 --> 06:46.737 align:start AND BORDER PROTECTION AND THE 06:46.740 --> 06:49.206 align:start U.S. ATTORNEYS OFFICE DECIDES TO 06:49.209 --> 06:50.574 align:start PROCESS SOME -- OR ANY 06:50.577 --> 06:52.376 align:start UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT WHO IS 06:52.379 --> 06:52.943 align:start CAUGHT AND IDENTIFIED FOR 06:52.946 --> 06:57.248 align:start PROSECUTION. 06:57.251 --> 06:58.682 align:start THERE'S BEEN JUST A HUGE RANGE 06:58.685 --> 07:01.552 align:start OF TREATMENT OF THESE PEOPLE 07:01.555 --> 07:03.988 align:start OVER THE YEARS AND IT HAS RANGED 07:03.991 --> 07:05.856 align:start FROM SIMPLY NOT PROSECUTING THEM 07:05.859 --> 07:08.058 align:start AND REMOVING THEM, EITHER 07:08.061 --> 07:10.094 align:start THROUGH A VOLUNTARY DEPARTURE 07:10.097 --> 07:11.829 align:start ORDER OR A FORMAL ORDER, WHAT'S 07:11.832 --> 07:14.999 align:start CALLED AN EXPEDITED REMOVAL 07:15.002 --> 07:15.766 align:start ORDER, TO FELONY PROSECUTION AND 07:15.769 --> 07:17.535 align:start EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. 07:17.538 --> 07:19.804 align:start >> DOES THE U.S. ATTORNEYS 07:19.807 --> 07:21.071 align:start OFFICE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO 07:21.074 --> 07:22.540 align:start SUSTAIN WHAT COULD EVENTUALLY 07:22.543 --> 07:23.340 align:start BE -- I MEAN, THIS COULD CREATE 07:23.343 --> 07:25.776 align:start A BACKLOG IN THE SYSTEM. 07:25.779 --> 07:27.144 align:start >> WELL, THE U.S. ATTORNEYS 07:27.147 --> 07:30.881 align:start OFFICE IS, YOU KNOW, A COMPONENT 07:30.884 --> 07:32.283 align:start OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND 07:32.286 --> 07:35.886 align:start THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MAKES 07:35.889 --> 07:36.754 align:start THE DECISIONS ON HOW TO FUND THE 07:36.757 --> 07:38.456 align:start DIFFERENT U.S. ATTORNEYS OFFICES 07:38.459 --> 07:40.858 align:start THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 07:40.861 --> 07:44.929 align:start AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME BASED ON 07:44.932 --> 07:46.530 align:start MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND WHAT 07:46.533 --> 07:48.365 align:start I'VE OBSERVED HERE IN TUCSON FOR 07:48.368 --> 07:50.000 align:start THE LAST FEW YEARS, THE U.S. 07:50.003 --> 07:52.536 align:start ATTORNEYS OFFICE IS UNDERSTAFFED 07:52.539 --> 07:56.040 align:start COMPARED TO WHERE IT WAS ABOUT 07:56.043 --> 07:58.142 align:start FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO, LET'S SAY 07:58.145 --> 08:00.344 align:start 2011, WHICH IN MY EXPERIENCE, IN 08:00.347 --> 08:02.112 align:start MY OBSERVATION, WAS KIND OF THE 08:02.115 --> 08:04.348 align:start HEIGHT OF THE STAFFING OF THE 08:04.351 --> 08:06.083 align:start U.S. ATTORNEYS OFFICE, AND AT 08:06.086 --> 08:08.419 align:start THAT TIME THE STREAMLINE 08:08.422 --> 08:10.387 align:start INITIATIVE AS IT EXISTED IN 08:10.390 --> 08:13.591 align:start TUCSON WAS PROBABLY AT ITS 08:13.594 --> 08:14.725 align:start HIGHEST AND SO WERE FELONY 08:14.728 --> 08:15.493 align:start PROSECUTIONS. 08:15.496 --> 08:19.630 align:start I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS 08:19.633 --> 08:21.265 align:start EXACTLY TRUE OR NOT, BUT THE 08:21.268 --> 08:23.334 align:start TUCSON DIVISION OF THE U.S. 08:23.337 --> 08:26.203 align:start DISTRICT COURT HAD A REPUTATION 08:26.206 --> 08:27.671 align:start FOR BEING, IF NOT THE BUSIEST 08:27.674 --> 08:28.973 align:start FEDERAL COURTHOUSE IN THE 08:28.976 --> 08:29.773 align:start COUNTRY AMONGST THE BUSIEST 08:29.776 --> 08:33.644 align:start SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE WERE AN 08:33.647 --> 08:34.845 align:start AVERAGE OF ABOUT 1,500 ILLEGAL 08:34.848 --> 08:35.679 align:start RE-ENTRY FELONY PROSECUTIONS 08:35.682 --> 08:37.481 align:start BACK THEN. 08:37.484 --> 08:39.783 align:start THAT NUMBER HAS DWINDLED OVER 08:39.786 --> 08:41.352 align:start THE YEARS AND BY, AGAIN, YOU 08:41.355 --> 08:43.387 align:start KNOW, MY PERCEPTIONS AND THE 08:43.390 --> 08:45.990 align:start PERCEPTIONS OF MY COLLEAGUES, 08:45.993 --> 08:46.290 align:start WE'RE PROBABLY AT ABOUT CLOSE TO 08:46.293 --> 08:48.559 align:start HALF. 08:48.562 --> 08:49.927 align:start >> WILL THIS DETER IMMIGRANTS AS 08:49.930 --> 08:50.227 align:start THE AGENCY SAYS IT HOPES IT 08:50.230 --> 08:51.629 align:start WILL? 08:51.632 --> 08:53.731 align:start >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S -- 08:53.734 --> 08:57.101 align:start IT'S HARD TO KNOW. 08:57.104 --> 09:00.204 align:start ACTUALLY, TWO YEARS AGO IN 2015 09:00.207 --> 09:03.374 align:start THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND 09:03.377 --> 09:06.210 align:start SECURITY CONDUCTED AND RELEASED 09:06.213 --> 09:07.878 align:start A STUDY OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF 09:07.881 --> 09:10.915 align:start THE OPERATION STREAMLINE 09:10.918 --> 09:12.917 align:start PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY 09:12.920 --> 09:14.652 align:start AND IT WASN'T CONCLUSIVE. 09:14.655 --> 09:17.354 align:start IN FACT, THERE WERE SOME 09:17.357 --> 09:19.557 align:start CONCERNS IN THAT REPORT AS TO 09:19.560 --> 09:22.560 align:start WHETHER CUSTOMS AND BORDER 09:22.563 --> 09:26.063 align:start PROTECTION WAS PROPERLY KEEPING 09:26.066 --> 09:28.065 align:start DATA AND ANALYZING IT AS TO THE 09:28.068 --> 09:28.465 align:start EFFECTIVENESS OF PREVENTING 09:28.468 --> 09:30.100 align:start RECIDIVISM. 09:30.103 --> 09:32.937 align:start SO, YOU KNOW, THE JURY IS 09:32.940 --> 09:35.539 align:start ESSENTIALLY OUT ON THAT ISSUE. 09:35.542 --> 09:38.042 align:start CERTAINLY THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE 09:38.045 --> 09:41.011 align:start AND DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT IT 09:41.014 --> 09:43.447 align:start IS EFFECTIVE, BUT JUST LIKE 09:43.450 --> 09:45.015 align:start EVERYTHING, THE BIG QUESTION FOR 09:45.018 --> 09:47.384 align:start THE GOVERNMENT, ESPECIALLY, IS 09:47.387 --> 09:50.154 align:start IS IT WORTH THE COST? 09:50.157 --> 09:51.388 align:start >>> WE HEAD SOUTH NOW TO 09:51.391 --> 09:53.023 align:start NOGALES, SONORA WHERE FOR THE 09:53.026 --> 09:54.358 align:start LAST EIGHT YEARS THE KINO BORDER 09:54.361 --> 09:56.193 align:start INITIATIVE HAS PROVIDED FOOD AND 09:56.196 --> 09:58.729 align:start OTHER HELP TO MIGRANTS, MANY OF 09:58.732 --> 10:00.864 align:start THEM RECENT DEPORTEES. 10:00.867 --> 10:02.666 align:start FATHER SEAN CARROLL IS A JESUIT 10:02.669 --> 10:04.568 align:start PRIEST WHO LEADS THE EFFORT. 10:04.571 --> 10:05.836 align:start >> THANKS FOR HAVING US. 10:05.839 --> 10:08.238 align:start TELL ME ABOUT THIS PLACE. 10:08.241 --> 10:10.507 align:start >> SO THIS IS A CENTER WHICH WE 10:10.510 --> 10:12.209 align:start PROVIDE MEALS, CLOTHING AND 10:12.212 --> 10:12.943 align:start PASTORAL SUPPORT MOSTLY TO 10:12.946 --> 10:13.978 align:start MIGRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEPORTED 10:13.981 --> 10:14.311 align:start FROM THE UNITED STATES TO 10:14.314 --> 10:15.679 align:start MEXICO. 10:15.682 --> 10:17.081 align:start THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF 10:17.084 --> 10:18.549 align:start TRAUMA IN THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE 10:18.552 --> 10:19.984 align:start OF MIGRATION, WHETHER IT'S 10:19.987 --> 10:22.119 align:start TALKING IN THE DESERT OR BEING 10:22.122 --> 10:26.557 align:start SEPARATED FROM FAMILY OR BEING A 10:26.560 --> 10:28.892 align:start VICTIM OF VIOLENCE OR ABUSE, AND 10:28.895 --> 10:30.327 align:start SO WHEN THEY COME HERE THEY'VE 10:30.330 --> 10:33.731 align:start REALLY BEEN BEATEN UP. 10:33.734 --> 10:36.133 align:start AND SO OUR MINISTRY IS TO REMIND 10:36.136 --> 10:37.901 align:start THEM OF THEIR HUMAN DIGNITY, 10:37.904 --> 10:39.737 align:start IT'S SO VALUE AND RESPECT IT AND 10:39.740 --> 10:42.006 align:start TO RESPOND TO THEIR BASIC NEEDS, 10:42.009 --> 10:42.773 align:start WHICH ARE FOOD, CLOTHING, 10:42.776 --> 10:44.775 align:start PASTORAL SUPPORT. 10:44.778 --> 10:46.243 align:start >> WHEN THEY ARRIVE HERE WHAT 10:46.246 --> 10:47.945 align:start SORTS OF SERVICES CAN THEY 10:47.948 --> 10:51.415 align:start EXPECT OR ARE THEY GREETED WITH? 10:51.418 --> 10:52.916 align:start >> SO WHEN THEY WALK THROUGH THE 10:52.919 --> 10:55.219 align:start DOOR, LOOK THEM IN THE EYE, WE 10:55.222 --> 10:55.686 align:start GREET THEM, WE WELCOME THEM, WE 10:55.689 --> 10:57.488 align:start SEAT THEM. 10:57.491 --> 10:58.922 align:start YOU NOTICE THAT WE SERVE THE 10:58.925 --> 11:00.891 align:start MEAL, THERE IS NO SOUP LINE. 11:00.894 --> 11:01.525 align:start IT'S ALL TO REMIND THEM THAT 11:01.528 --> 11:03.360 align:start THEY MATTER. 11:03.363 --> 11:05.362 align:start WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS 11:05.365 --> 11:09.566 align:start THEIR BASIC NEEDS FOR FOOD, FOR 11:09.569 --> 11:09.933 align:start CLOTHING AND FOR POST ORAL 11:09.936 --> 11:11.702 align:start COMPANION. 11:11.705 --> 11:12.903 align:start MANY HAVE BEEN THROUGH MAJOR 11:12.906 --> 11:14.238 align:start TRAUMA, VARIOUS FORMS AND ARE 11:14.241 --> 11:16.273 align:start REALLY LOOKING TO SPEAK TO ONE 11:16.276 --> 11:17.975 align:start OF US TO TALK ABOUT THEIR 11:17.978 --> 11:18.342 align:start EXPERIENCE AND TO HOPEFULLY HEAL 11:18.345 --> 11:20.310 align:start FROM IT. 11:20.313 --> 11:21.412 align:start >> NOW, WHEN THEY COME HERE, 11:21.415 --> 11:23.947 align:start WHAT HAPPENS AFTERWARDS? 11:23.950 --> 11:24.381 align:start >> REALLY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 11:24.384 --> 11:25.883 align:start SCENARIOS. 11:25.886 --> 11:28.786 align:start SO ONE IS THAT PEOPLE RETURN TO 11:28.789 --> 11:30.621 align:start THE TOWN OF ORIGIN AND THERE'S 11:30.624 --> 11:31.855 align:start AN ENTITY THAT COMES THAT WILL 11:31.858 --> 11:32.790 align:start HELP WITH THE BUS FARE FOR THOSE 11:32.793 --> 11:40.130 align:start THAT WANT TO RETURN. 11:40.133 --> 11:40.497 align:start A SMALL NUMBER WILL STAY IN THE 11:40.500 --> 11:42.733 align:start NOGALES, SONORA AND TRY TO FIND 11:42.736 --> 11:44.168 align:start NOGALES, SONORA AND TRY TO FIND 11:44.171 --> 11:45.536 align:start A JOB AND A PLACE TO LIVE. 11:45.539 --> 11:46.603 align:start SOME WILL TRY TO CROSS AGAIN. 11:46.606 --> 11:48.405 align:start THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS 11:48.408 --> 11:49.173 align:start FOR THAT, SOME BASE THEY'RE 11:49.176 --> 11:50.741 align:start SEPARATED FROM FAMILY AND I 11:50.744 --> 11:52.042 align:start THINK IF YOU ARE A MOTHER OR 11:52.045 --> 11:53.777 align:start FATHER YOU HAVE NO LEGAL WAY TO 11:53.780 --> 11:54.812 align:start BE WITH YOUR CHILDREN, YOU WILL 11:54.815 --> 11:55.946 align:start DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING TO BE 11:55.949 --> 11:58.348 align:start WITH THEM. 11:58.351 --> 12:00.517 align:start SO SOME PEOPLE MAKE THAT PAINFUL 12:00.520 --> 12:02.019 align:start AND DIFFICULT DECISION TO CROSS 12:02.022 --> 12:03.954 align:start AGAIN AND TO TAKE THAT RISK. 12:03.957 --> 12:05.289 align:start >> DO YOU ENCOURAGE THAT OR WHAT 12:05.292 --> 12:06.156 align:start IS YOUR COUNSEL WHEN THEY ASK 12:06.159 --> 12:09.760 align:start YOU ABOUT THAT? 12:09.763 --> 12:11.762 align:start >> WE DON'T TELL THEM TO GO, BUT 12:11.765 --> 12:13.664 align:start WE'RE TRYING TO RESPOND TO THEIR 12:13.667 --> 12:13.964 align:start HUMAN DIGNITY, TO THEIR HUMAN 12:13.967 --> 12:15.332 align:start NEEDS. 12:15.335 --> 12:18.402 align:start MY EXPERIENCE PEOPLE MAKE THEIR 12:18.405 --> 12:20.204 align:start OWN DECISIONS AND IT'S REALLY A 12:20.207 --> 12:21.538 align:start REFLECTION, I THINK, OF THE 12:21.541 --> 12:21.872 align:start BROKENNESS OF OUR IMMIGRATION 12:21.875 --> 12:24.141 align:start SYSTEM. 12:24.144 --> 12:26.143 align:start WE DON'T HAVE LAWS THAT HELP 12:26.146 --> 12:28.178 align:start PEOPLE COME IN AN ORDERLY WAY 12:28.181 --> 12:28.846 align:start AND WORK IN AREAS WITH NEED IN 12:28.849 --> 12:30.814 align:start THE U.S. 12:30.817 --> 12:32.449 align:start WE DON'T HAVE REFORM OF THE VISA 12:32.452 --> 12:34.151 align:start SYSTEM SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE 12:34.154 --> 12:36.453 align:start SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILY 12:36.456 --> 12:39.156 align:start MEMBERS CAN IN AN ORDERLY WAY BE 12:39.159 --> 12:40.357 align:start REUNITED WITH FAMILY MEMBERS. 12:40.360 --> 12:41.959 align:start IT'S REALLY A REFLECTION OF 12:41.962 --> 12:43.360 align:start WHERE OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS 12:43.363 --> 12:46.497 align:start RIGHT NOW AND REALLY HIGHLIGHTS 12:46.500 --> 12:47.631 align:start THE URGENCY OF REFORM SO THAT IT 12:47.634 --> 12:50.033 align:start REFLECTS THE CURRENT REALITY AND 12:50.036 --> 12:50.400 align:start SO THAT IT RESPECTS HUMAN 12:50.403 --> 12:51.001 align:start DIGNITY. 12:51.004 --> 12:51.902 align:start >> THERE ARE PEOPLE AND 12:51.905 --> 12:52.870 align:start ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE CRITICAL 12:52.873 --> 12:54.071 align:start OF YOUR WORK. 12:54.074 --> 12:55.606 align:start WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM? 12:55.609 --> 12:57.274 align:start >> WELL, IT REALLY DEPENDS. 12:57.277 --> 12:58.976 align:start SOME ARE CRITICAL OF US, THEY 12:58.979 --> 12:59.510 align:start THINK WE'RE HELPING PEOPLE BREAK 12:59.513 --> 13:01.578 align:start THE LAW. 13:01.581 --> 13:03.046 align:start LIKE I SAY, WE'RE TRYING TO 13:03.049 --> 13:06.183 align:start RESPOND TO THE HUMAN DIGNITY, 13:06.186 --> 13:07.651 align:start RESPOND TO THEIR HUMAN NEEDS. 13:07.654 --> 13:08.552 align:start PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS 13:08.555 --> 13:10.154 align:start BUT REALLY I THINK IT'S 13:10.157 --> 13:11.221 align:start IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE 13:11.224 --> 13:11.555 align:start BROKENNESS OF THE IMMIGRATION 13:11.558 --> 13:12.689 align:start SYSTEM. 13:12.692 --> 13:13.023 align:start THAT'S WHERE OUR ATTENTION NEEDS 13:13.026 --> 13:15.125 align:start TO BE. 13:15.128 --> 13:15.459 align:start THAT'S WHERE THE REFORMS NEED TO 13:15.462 --> 13:16.593 align:start HAPPEN. 13:16.596 --> 13:18.829 align:start WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS 13:18.832 --> 13:20.831 align:start ATTENTION ON WHAT WE CALL THE 13:20.834 --> 13:24.034 align:start PUSH FACTOR, WHAT CAUSES PEOPLE 13:24.037 --> 13:25.102 align:start TO MIGRATE, FAMILY NEED, 13:25.105 --> 13:26.670 align:start SEPARATION AND VIOLENCE. 13:26.673 --> 13:28.639 align:start THE MORE WE INVEST IN THOSE 13:28.642 --> 13:31.175 align:start AREAS IN ORDER TO IMPROVE -- 13:31.178 --> 13:33.710 align:start MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK THE 13:33.713 --> 13:35.045 align:start MORE WE WILL SEE THIS REALITY 13:35.048 --> 13:36.413 align:start PROVEN AND PEOPLE WILL SUFFER 13:36.416 --> 13:38.115 align:start LESS IN THE PROCESS. 13:38.118 --> 13:39.383 align:start >> THIS IS JULY, THE MIDDLE OF 13:39.386 --> 13:40.951 align:start JULY, THERE ARE DOZENS OF PEOPLE 13:40.954 --> 13:42.786 align:start IN HERE. 13:42.789 --> 13:44.121 align:start IS THIS RARE? 13:44.124 --> 13:45.756 align:start >> THIS IS UNUSUAL, CERTAINLY 13:45.759 --> 13:46.990 align:start COMPARED TO THE PAST MONTHS. 13:46.993 --> 13:48.625 align:start WE'VE BEEN SEEING A FEWER NUMBER 13:48.628 --> 13:50.027 align:start OF PEOPLE, THOUGH WE'VE BEEN 13:50.030 --> 13:50.761 align:start SEEING A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF 13:50.764 --> 13:52.162 align:start PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LIVING IN 13:52.165 --> 13:54.164 align:start THE U.S. FOR A LONG TIME AND 13:54.167 --> 13:54.498 align:start HAVE SIGNIFICANT ROOTS IN THE 13:54.501 --> 13:57.201 align:start U.S. 13:57.204 --> 13:58.802 align:start SO ON A DAY LIKE THIS, THIS IS 13:58.805 --> 14:01.004 align:start UNUSUALLY HIGH NUMBER, WHICH CAN 14:01.007 --> 14:02.206 align:start HAPPEN, BUT WE'RE REALLY READY 14:02.209 --> 14:03.373 align:start ANY DAY TO SERVE THE NUMBER OF 14:03.376 --> 14:03.874 align:start PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S HIGH OR 14:03.877 --> 14:05.542 align:start WHETHER IT'S LOW. 14:05.545 --> 14:06.143 align:start >> YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A 14:06.146 --> 14:08.278 align:start LONG TIME NOW. 14:08.281 --> 14:08.879 align:start >> I'VE BEEN HERE FOR EIGHT AND 14:08.882 --> 14:10.447 align:start A HALF YEARS NOW. 14:10.450 --> 14:10.781 align:start >> WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE 14:10.784 --> 14:11.849 align:start FUTURE? 14:11.852 --> 14:13.317 align:start THERE'S GOT TO BE A HOPE THAT 14:13.320 --> 14:13.684 align:start YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS 14:13.687 --> 14:15.185 align:start FOREVER. 14:15.188 --> 14:17.788 align:start >> YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE IN 14:17.791 --> 14:19.356 align:start VERY LIMITED STATES AND SO OUR 14:19.359 --> 14:22.459 align:start PLAN IS TO BUY A BUILDING, IT'S 14:22.462 --> 14:24.728 align:start TO REMODEL THAT FACILITY SO THAT 14:24.731 --> 14:27.998 align:start WE CAN RESPOND TO THE NEEDS IN A 14:28.001 --> 14:29.900 align:start BIGGER SPACE, BUT ALSO PROVIDE A 14:29.903 --> 14:31.368 align:start SHELTER FOR MEN WHICH WE DON'T 14:31.371 --> 14:33.704 align:start HAVE RIGHT NOW. 14:33.707 --> 14:35.105 align:start WE'VE INCREASED OUR CAPACITY IN 14:35.108 --> 14:36.540 align:start WHAT WE DO BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE 14:36.543 --> 14:36.907 align:start TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL 14:36.910 --> 14:38.809 align:start SERVICE. 14:38.812 --> 14:40.110 align:start >> HERE IS ANGEL GONZALES A 14:40.113 --> 14:41.778 align:start MEXICAN NATIONAL WHO HAS BEEN 14:41.781 --> 14:43.714 align:start LIVING ILLEGALLY IN THE U.S. FOR 14:43.717 --> 14:44.615 align:start THE LAST 18 YEARS IN CALIFORNIA 14:44.618 --> 14:46.583 align:start AND WASHINGTON. 14:46.586 --> 14:47.951 align:start A 40-YEAR-OLD MAN WHO HAS BEEN 14:47.954 --> 14:48.619 align:start ARRESTED SEVERAL TIMES AND 14:48.622 --> 14:50.287 align:start DEPORTED TWICE. 14:50.290 --> 14:52.556 align:start HE'S BEEN IN FEDERAL CUSTODY 14:52.559 --> 14:54.424 align:start SINCE MAY IN SEATTLE, THEN EARLY 14:54.427 --> 14:56.360 align:start LAST WEEK FEDERAL AGENTS PUT HIM 14:56.363 --> 14:58.161 align:start ON A PLANE, THEN A BUS. 14:58.164 --> 15:00.097 align:start DAYS LATER HE WAS IN ARIZONA, 15:00.100 --> 15:03.000 align:start THEN DEPORTED INTO MEXICO. 15:03.003 --> 15:07.604 align:start WE MET HIM AT THE KINO BORDER 15:07.607 --> 15:07.938 align:start INITIATIVE MINUTES AFTER HE 15:07.941 --> 15:09.740 align:start ARRIVED. 15:09.743 --> 15:11.241 align:start >> YEAH, I HAVE THREE KIDS AND 15:11.244 --> 15:13.243 align:start TWO STEPSONS AND A WIFE. 15:13.246 --> 15:13.644 align:start >> AND NOW YOUR FAMILY IS ALL IN 15:13.647 --> 15:14.778 align:start WASHINGTON. 15:14.781 --> 15:15.045 align:start >> THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE I 15:15.048 --> 15:17.180 align:start AM. 15:17.183 --> 15:19.549 align:start THEY KNOW THAT I WAS IN JAIL AND 15:19.552 --> 15:22.185 align:start THAT I WAS GETTING RELEASED. 15:22.188 --> 15:23.820 align:start THE 7th WAS MY RELEASE DAY, THEY 15:23.823 --> 15:25.522 align:start PICKED ME UP TWO DAYS BEFORE. 15:25.525 --> 15:25.889 align:start >> HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO CALL 15:25.892 --> 15:26.290 align:start ANYBODY. 15:26.293 --> 15:27.891 align:start >> NOT YET. 15:27.894 --> 15:28.325 align:start I'M GOING TO MAKE A PHONE CALL 15:28.328 --> 15:30.560 align:start RIGHT NOW. 15:30.563 --> 15:31.361 align:start >> SO YOUR FAMILY IN SEATTLE 15:31.364 --> 15:31.995 align:start WASHINGTON DOESN'T KNOW THAT 15:31.998 --> 15:33.630 align:start YOU'RE IN -- 15:33.633 --> 15:34.665 align:start >> THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM. 15:34.668 --> 15:37.634 align:start >> HOW WERE YOU TREATED WHEN YOU 15:37.637 --> 15:41.038 align:start WERE IN IMMIGRATION CUSTODY? 15:41.041 --> 15:43.040 align:start >> IT'S OKAY. 15:43.043 --> 15:44.574 align:start THE ONLY THING IT'S LIKE WHEN 15:44.577 --> 15:46.443 align:start THEY TAKE US FROM ONE JAIL TO 15:46.446 --> 15:46.777 align:start ANOTHER ONE THEY MAKE YOU WAIT 15:46.780 --> 15:47.444 align:start FOREVER. 15:47.447 --> 15:49.212 align:start THEY SAY NOTHING. 15:49.215 --> 15:51.548 align:start THEY SAY TO YOU LIKE, OH, WE'RE 15:51.551 --> 15:53.583 align:start GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THIS PLACE 15:53.586 --> 15:57.220 align:start IN 20 MINUTES AND THEY COME 15:57.223 --> 15:59.723 align:start HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS. 15:59.726 --> 16:01.391 align:start AND THEN THERE WAS THINGS LIKE 16:01.394 --> 16:03.727 align:start YOU HAVE HANDCUFFS HERE, HERE, 16:03.730 --> 16:06.763 align:start YOU'RE LIKE THIS AND YOUR FEET. 16:06.766 --> 16:07.898 align:start YOU HAVE A CHAIN AND A CHAIN. 16:07.901 --> 16:09.099 align:start >> YOU WERE -- LIKE YOU'RE 16:09.102 --> 16:09.466 align:start SAYING YOU WERE TREATED LIKE A 16:09.469 --> 16:10.834 align:start CRIMINAL. 16:10.837 --> 16:12.936 align:start >> YEAH, LIKE A CRIMINAL. 16:12.939 --> 16:13.303 align:start >> IN YOUR MIND YOU ARE NOT A 16:13.306 --> 16:15.605 align:start CRIMINAL. 16:15.608 --> 16:17.674 align:start >> I'M NOT A CRIMINAL I JUST -- 16:17.677 --> 16:19.343 align:start I'VE BEEN WORKING AS SOON AS I 16:19.346 --> 16:21.645 align:start GET TO SEATTLE, WASHINGTON, THE 16:21.648 --> 16:23.780 align:start NEXT DAY I GET TO SEATTLE I 16:23.783 --> 16:25.248 align:start START WORKING. 16:25.251 --> 16:27.284 align:start I WAS FEELING REALLY SAD WHEN I 16:27.287 --> 16:30.787 align:start WAS JUST LIKE THIS. 16:30.790 --> 16:33.190 align:start >> HOW HAVE YOU MANAGED TO LIVE 16:33.193 --> 16:33.590 align:start IN THE U.S. FOR 18 YEARS 16:33.593 --> 16:35.425 align:start UNDETECTED? 16:35.428 --> 16:37.227 align:start >> IT'S EASY BECAUSE OVER THERE 16:37.230 --> 16:39.296 align:start IT'S DIFFERENT LIKE YOU LIVE IN 16:39.299 --> 16:40.330 align:start L.A. AND CLOSE TO THE BORDER, 16:40.333 --> 16:42.232 align:start IT'S HARD WHEN YOU LIVE CLOSE TO 16:42.235 --> 16:44.935 align:start THE BORDER, BUT IT'S VERY 16:44.938 --> 16:45.335 align:start DIFFERENT LIKE SEATTLE TO L.A., 16:45.338 --> 16:46.436 align:start CALIFORNIA. 16:46.439 --> 16:49.573 align:start >> WHY DO YOU THINK IN MAY 16:49.576 --> 16:49.940 align:start SUDDENLY YOU WERE ARRESTED AND 16:49.943 --> 16:53.777 align:start DEPORTED? 16:53.780 --> 16:54.144 align:start >> I THINK THE NEW LAWS, THE NEW 16:54.147 --> 16:56.913 align:start PRESIDENT. 16:56.916 --> 16:59.249 align:start AS SOON AS HE SIGNED THE BILL, 16:59.252 --> 17:01.685 align:start EVERY -- HOW DO YOU SAY -- HOW 17:01.688 --> 17:04.421 align:start DOES IT SAY? 17:04.424 --> 17:07.457 align:start CRIMINAL. 17:07.460 --> 17:08.258 align:start YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A WARRANT YOU 17:08.261 --> 17:09.960 align:start ARE A CRIMINAL. 17:09.963 --> 17:12.095 align:start >> 18 YEARS AGO WHEN YOU DECIDED 17:12.098 --> 17:14.531 align:start TO LEAVE TIJUANA AND COME TO THE 17:14.534 --> 17:16.900 align:start UNITED STATES WHY DID YOU DO IT? 17:16.903 --> 17:18.101 align:start >> IN THAT TIME I HAVE MY 17:18.104 --> 17:19.503 align:start FAMILY, TO GET A BETTER LIFE. 17:19.506 --> 17:21.004 align:start YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN DREAM. 17:21.007 --> 17:23.206 align:start >> WELL, HOW DID YOU FIND YOUR 17:23.209 --> 17:24.808 align:start WAY FROM TIJUANA TO SEATTLE, 17:24.811 --> 17:28.578 align:start WASHINGTON? 17:28.581 --> 17:30.047 align:start >> I HAD MY OWN [ INAUDIBLE ] -- 17:30.050 --> 17:32.816 align:start FOR A LONG TIME, I WAS IN L.A., 17:32.819 --> 17:34.451 align:start I WAS LIVING IN HOLLYWOOD AND I 17:34.454 --> 17:34.851 align:start HAD MY BROTHER IN SEATTLE, 17:34.854 --> 17:36.386 align:start WASHINGTON. 17:36.389 --> 17:37.954 align:start ONE DAY I WAS LIKE IT'S TOO HOT 17:37.957 --> 17:39.990 align:start OVER HERE, I CALL MY BROTHER, HE 17:39.993 --> 17:40.290 align:start SAID WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER 17:40.293 --> 17:42.159 align:start HERE. 17:42.162 --> 17:43.093 align:start I JUST TAKE THE GREYHOUND TO 17:43.096 --> 17:44.161 align:start WASHINGTON AND THE NEXT DAY I 17:44.164 --> 17:47.064 align:start WAS WORKING ALREADY. 17:47.067 --> 17:48.565 align:start >> WHAT KIND OF WORK DID YOU DO? 17:48.568 --> 17:51.168 align:start >> FIRST, MY FIRST JOB WAS IN 17:51.171 --> 17:54.171 align:start THE KITCHEN WORKING IN A CREST 17:54.174 --> 17:56.673 align:start RANT, MEXICAN RESTAURANT. 17:56.676 --> 17:58.075 align:start I WAS A BUSBOY, SERVER. 17:58.078 --> 17:59.443 align:start >> AND YOU DIDN'T MIND THAT, 17:59.446 --> 17:59.976 align:start THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU WERE MAKING 17:59.979 --> 18:02.212 align:start BETTER MONEY? 18:02.215 --> 18:02.512 align:start >> YEAH, I WAS MAKING GOOD 18:02.515 --> 18:04.748 align:start MONEY. 18:04.751 --> 18:07.284 align:start I SAID TO MY FRIEND, IT'S SO 18:07.287 --> 18:08.452 align:start SAD, 18 YEARS AND THIS CLOSE TO 18:08.455 --> 18:10.287 align:start MY HOUSE FOR 18 YEARS. 18:10.290 --> 18:10.587 align:start >> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW, 18:10.590 --> 18:14.024 align:start ANGEL? 18:14.027 --> 18:15.492 align:start >> I WANT TO GO TO CANADA. 18:15.495 --> 18:17.694 align:start >> NOT BACK TO SEATTLE? 18:17.697 --> 18:18.028 align:start >> MAYBE, BUT I WANT TO GO TO 18:18.031 --> 18:19.329 align:start CANADA. 18:19.332 --> 18:22.966 align:start THEY SAY IT'S BETTER. 18:22.969 --> 18:25.469 align:start IT'S NOT LIKE U.S.A., LIKE YOU 18:25.472 --> 18:26.803 align:start CAN GET -- HOW DO YOU SAY -- 18:26.806 --> 18:27.137 align:start STATUS OVER THERE IN THREE 18:27.140 --> 18:31.675 align:start YEARS. 18:31.678 --> 18:32.342 align:start I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR MY STATUS 18:32.345 --> 18:33.710 align:start FOR 18 YEARS. 18:33.713 --> 18:34.311 align:start >> WHAT ABOUT YOUR WIFE AND 18:34.314 --> 18:37.314 align:start KIDS, THOUGH? 18:37.317 --> 18:40.150 align:start >> THEY LIVE IN WASHINGTON. 18:40.153 --> 18:42.319 align:start YOU KNOW, WASHINGTON IT'S THE 18:42.322 --> 18:42.619 align:start BORDER BY CANADA SO THEY'RE 18:42.622 --> 18:44.988 align:start CLOSE. 18:44.991 --> 18:47.124 align:start I WANT TO GO TO VANCOUVER, 18:47.127 --> 18:48.692 align:start CANADA, SO THEY CAN GO SEE ME 18:48.695 --> 18:49.092 align:start AND THEY CAN GO BACK TO 18:49.095 --> 18:50.427 align:start VANCOUVER. 18:50.430 --> 18:51.128 align:start >> BUT NOT MEXICO? 18:51.131 --> 18:52.629 align:start >> NO. 18:52.632 --> 18:53.029 align:start >> YOU DON'T WANT TO STAY HERE. 18:53.032 --> 18:56.199 align:start >> NO. 18:56.202 --> 18:59.136 align:start >> WHY NOT? 18:59.139 --> 18:59.436 align:start >> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE 18:59.439 --> 19:00.504 align:start YOU. 19:00.507 --> 19:06.510 align:start >> WHAT ABOUT YOU, THOUGH, WHY 19:06.513 --> 19:07.344 align:start NOT STAY HERE IN MEXICO? 19:07.347 --> 19:08.945 align:start >> I DON'T KNOW. 19:08.948 --> 19:09.379 align:start I MAY STAY FOR A MONTH AND SEE 19:09.382 --> 19:11.148 align:start WHAT HAPPENS. 19:11.151 --> 19:11.648 align:start I NEED TO FIND A JOB FIRST AND 19:11.651 --> 19:12.916 align:start WE'LL SEE. 19:12.919 --> 19:14.784 align:start I HAVE MY FAMILY OVER THERE. 19:14.787 --> 19:24.995 align:start >> SO FROM SEATTLE, WASHINGTON, 19:24.998 --> 19:27.664 align:start YOU COME TO ARIZONA, NOW YOU ARE 19:27.667 --> 19:27.964 align:start IN MEXICO BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO 19:27.967 --> 19:29.399 align:start STAY. 19:29.402 --> 19:33.937 align:start >> IT'S TOO HOT. 19:33.940 --> 19:34.905 align:start THEY CALL SUMMER AFTER JUNE 20 19:34.908 --> 19:36.306 align:start OVER THERE. 19:36.309 --> 19:37.007 align:start THEY STILL COME OUTSIDE, IT'S 19:37.010 --> 19:38.675 align:start COLD AND EVERYTHING. 19:38.678 --> 19:40.243 align:start I GOT ARRESTED IN MAY, IT WAS 19:40.246 --> 19:43.547 align:start STILL CHILLY OUTSIDE. 19:43.550 --> 19:45.949 align:start DURING THE NIGHT, I HAVE MY COAT 19:45.952 --> 19:48.685 align:start OUTSIDE WALKING. 19:48.688 --> 19:50.554 align:start THAT'S ALL I GOT FROM 19:50.557 --> 19:50.954 align:start WASHINGTON, COLD, IN THE 19:50.957 --> 19:53.823 align:start WINTERTIME. 19:53.826 --> 19:57.994 align:start I GOT MY PAPERS FROM JAIL, 19:57.997 --> 19:59.429 align:start IMMIGRATION PAPERS, ALL KIND OF 19:59.432 --> 20:00.664 align:start STUFF, YOUR TAG WHEN YOU GET 20:00.667 --> 20:02.599 align:start ARRESTED THAT'S WHAT THEY GIVE 20:02.602 --> 20:04.901 align:start YOU, MY CAR KEYS, PAPERWORK IS 20:04.904 --> 20:06.703 align:start REPORTED AND ALL KIND OF STUFF. 20:06.706 --> 20:08.138 align:start THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING. 20:08.141 --> 20:09.606 align:start THEY DON'T EVEN -- THEY DON'T 20:09.609 --> 20:10.974 align:start EVEN SAY NOTHING, JUST STAY 20:10.977 --> 20:11.775 align:start THERE THE WHOLE DAY. 20:11.778 --> 20:12.509 align:start >> HAVE YOU BEEN ARRESTED BEFORE 20:12.512 --> 20:15.111 align:start IN SEATTLE? 20:15.114 --> 20:18.114 align:start >> YEAH, I'VE BEEN ARRESTED 20:18.117 --> 20:22.986 align:start THREE TIMES, BUT I GET OUT. 20:22.989 --> 20:23.420 align:start I'M NOT A VIOLENT CRIMINAL, JUST 20:23.423 --> 20:24.888 align:start MISDEMEANORS. 20:24.891 --> 20:27.157 align:start >> AND NOW IF YOU GO BACK 20:27.160 --> 20:28.658 align:start YOU'RE -- AND YOU GET CAUGHT, 20:28.661 --> 20:31.995 align:start NOW IT'S A FEDERAL FELONY. 20:31.998 --> 20:32.329 align:start >> I GO TO PRISON, FEDERAL 20:32.332 --> 20:32.996 align:start PRISON. 20:32.999 --> 20:34.831 align:start >> DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? 20:34.834 --> 20:35.632 align:start >> YEAH, THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT 20:35.635 --> 20:36.933 align:start TO GO BACK TO THERE. 20:36.936 --> 20:37.667 align:start >> YOU DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO 20:37.670 --> 20:41.137 align:start THE U.S.A.? 20:41.140 --> 20:43.340 align:start >> I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE. 20:43.343 --> 20:44.207 align:start THAT'S WHY I SAY, I'VE GOT KIDS 20:44.210 --> 20:45.242 align:start OVER THERE. 20:45.245 --> 20:46.943 align:start I HAVE MY CAR AND EVERYTHING 20:46.946 --> 20:47.510 align:start OVER THERE. 20:47.513 --> 20:49.012 align:start EVERYTHING IS THERE. 20:49.015 --> 20:50.880 align:start >> SO I WANT TO BE SURE I HAVE 20:50.883 --> 20:52.282 align:start THIS RIGHT, YOU HAD A DOMESTIC 20:52.285 --> 20:54.117 align:start VIOLENCE YOU SAID A CASE, THAT'S 20:54.120 --> 20:55.685 align:start WHY THEY PICKED YOU UP? 20:55.688 --> 20:57.420 align:start >> THEY PICKED ME UP FOR THE 20:57.423 --> 20:58.722 align:start OTHER THINGS, BUT THE 20:58.725 --> 21:01.024 align:start DEPORTATION, THAT'S -- BECAUSE 21:01.027 --> 21:02.559 align:start WHEN I TOLD YOU I GIVE DIFFERENT 21:02.562 --> 21:06.196 align:start NAME, I GOT MY LICENSE AND 21:06.199 --> 21:06.663 align:start EVERYTHING, THEY HAVE MY REAL 21:06.666 --> 21:12.802 align:start NAME. 21:12.805 --> 21:15.071 align:start SO THEY GET YOUR FINGERPRINTS 21:15.074 --> 21:16.506 align:start AND AT THE BORDER I THINK THAT'S 21:16.509 --> 21:18.375 align:start WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE WHEN THEY 21:18.378 --> 21:19.075 align:start PUT ME IN JAIL I GOT A REAL 21:19.078 --> 21:20.844 align:start NAME, A DIFFERENT NAME. 21:20.847 --> 21:21.144 align:start >> YOU GAVE THEM YOUR UNCLE'S 21:21.147 --> 21:21.645 align:start NAME? 21:21.648 --> 21:22.679 align:start >> YEAH. 21:22.682 --> 21:24.247 align:start >> DO YOU THINK IT WAS WRONG OF 21:24.250 --> 21:25.515 align:start YOU TO GIVE THEM SOMEONE ELSE'S 21:25.518 --> 21:28.351 align:start NAME BECAUSE THAT MIGHT CAUSE 21:28.354 --> 21:32.589 align:start PROBLEMS FOR HIM? 21:32.592 --> 21:32.856 align:start >> IT WON'T CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH 21:32.859 --> 21:34.124 align:start HIM. 21:34.127 --> 21:37.427 align:start IT CAUSED PROBLEMS FOR ME. 21:37.430 --> 21:37.694 align:start THAT'S THE REASON THEY DEPORTED 21:37.697 --> 21:38.361 align:start ME. 21:38.364 --> 21:39.796 align:start >> FALSE NAME? 21:39.799 --> 21:41.831 align:start >> FALSE NAME. 21:41.834 --> 21:42.866 align:start IT'S LIKE A FELONY, THEY CALL 21:42.869 --> 21:44.367 align:start THAT LIKE A FELONY. 21:44.370 --> 21:44.968 align:start >> WHY NOT JUST GIVE THEM YOUR 21:44.971 --> 21:46.503 align:start REAL NAME? 21:46.506 --> 21:47.304 align:start >> THAT WAS BACK IN THE NAMES I 21:47.307 --> 21:48.605 align:start WOULD USE DIFFERENT NAMES. 21:48.608 --> 21:49.639 align:start I WOULD GO ARRESTED FOR 21:49.642 --> 21:51.041 align:start IMMIGRATION A COUPLE TIMES, 21:51.044 --> 21:52.642 align:start EVERY TIME THEY ARRESTED ME I 21:52.645 --> 21:54.377 align:start GAVE THEM A DIFFERENT NAME. 21:54.380 --> 21:55.879 align:start IN THAT TIME THEY ONLY TAKE A 21:55.882 --> 21:57.447 align:start PICTURE AND THAT'S IT AND THEY 21:57.450 --> 22:00.183 align:start LET YOU GO THE SAME -- SOMETIMES 22:00.186 --> 22:05.655 align:start THE SAME DAY, A COUPLE HOURS AND 22:05.658 --> 22:08.425 align:start THEY LET YOU GO. 22:08.428 --> 22:09.626 align:start AFTER '96 THEY STARTED DOING 22:09.629 --> 22:11.628 align:start THE -- WHEN THEY CHANGED THE 22:11.631 --> 22:14.331 align:start LAWS AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, 22:14.334 --> 22:16.199 align:start THEY MAKE THE WALLS AND ALL THAT 22:16.202 --> 22:16.566 align:start STUFF, THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING 22:16.569 --> 22:17.400 align:start CHANGED. 22:17.403 --> 22:19.069 align:start >> THERE ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE WHO 22:19.072 --> 22:20.203 align:start ARE GOING TO WATCH THIS AND 22:20.206 --> 22:22.472 align:start THINK, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, HE WAS 22:22.475 --> 22:24.574 align:start LIVING IN MEXICO, HE CROSSED 22:24.577 --> 22:25.542 align:start ILLEGALLY, HE'S BEEN LIVING 22:25.545 --> 22:26.776 align:start ILLEGALLY IN THE UNITED STATES, 22:26.779 --> 22:30.847 align:start THIS IS PART OF WHAT HAPPENS. 22:30.850 --> 22:33.483 align:start WHAT DO YOU TELL THOSE PEOPLE? 22:33.486 --> 22:33.817 align:start >> CAPITOL POLICE, PAY YOUR 22:33.820 --> 22:40.023 align:start TAXES. 22:40.026 --> 22:44.094 align:start >> DO YOU REGRET WHAT HAPPENED? 22:44.097 --> 22:45.729 align:start >> IT'S WHAT IT IS. 22:45.732 --> 22:48.164 align:start I'M HERE, I JUST HAVE TO GO BACK 22:48.167 --> 22:48.498 align:start TO MY MOM'S HOUSE AND COME BACK 22:48.501 --> 22:49.632 align:start AGAIN. 22:49.635 --> 22:50.500 align:start >> WHAT WAS IT LIKE WHEN YOU GOT 22:50.503 --> 22:52.235 align:start TO THIS PLACE? 22:52.238 --> 22:54.337 align:start WAS IT COMFORTING TO KNOW THAT 22:54.340 --> 22:56.606 align:start HERE THERE WAS FOOD AND -- 22:56.609 --> 22:56.906 align:start >> OH, THIS IS AMAZING, YOU 22:56.909 --> 22:59.242 align:start KNOW. 22:59.245 --> 23:01.678 align:start I JUST GOT HERE AND I SAID THAT 23:01.681 --> 23:03.780 align:start WAS LIKE -- SOMETIMES I WAS 23:03.783 --> 23:04.447 align:start CRYING, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO 23:04.450 --> 23:06.216 align:start OVER THERE? 23:06.219 --> 23:08.084 align:start I DON'T KNOW NOBODY THERE. 23:08.087 --> 23:09.352 align:start SOME GUYS ALREADY DEPORTED TOLD 23:09.355 --> 23:11.488 align:start ME ABOUT THIS KIND OF PLACE. 23:11.491 --> 23:12.589 align:start >>> THE U.S. BORDER PATROL WORKS 23:12.592 --> 23:14.257 align:start WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AND 23:14.260 --> 23:14.657 align:start HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS TO HELP 23:14.660 --> 23:16.192 align:start IMMIGRANTS. 23:16.195 --> 23:18.695 align:start TWO YEARS AGO THE AGENCY 23:18.698 --> 23:20.497 align:start LAUNCHED THE MISSING MIGRANT 23:20.500 --> 23:21.398 align:start TEAM, AGENTS WHO WORK WITH 23:21.401 --> 23:24.167 align:start CONSULATES AND OTHER 23:24.170 --> 23:24.901 align:start ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP FAMILIES 23:24.904 --> 23:26.469 align:start FIND THEIR MISSING LOVED ONES. 23:26.472 --> 23:28.438 align:start IN TWO YEARS AGENTS HAVE WORKED 23:28.441 --> 23:30.106 align:start MORE THAN 400 CASES AND HAVE 23:30.109 --> 23:31.307 align:start HELPED PROVIDE CLOSURE TO MORE 23:31.310 --> 23:33.209 align:start THAN 180 FAMILIES. 23:33.212 --> 23:34.544 align:start AGENTS HAVE ALSO ASSISTED IN 23:34.547 --> 23:36.513 align:start IDENTIFYING 70 PEOPLE IN THE 23:36.516 --> 23:38.815 align:start NATIONAL MISSING AND 23:38.818 --> 23:41.117 align:start UNIDENTIFIED PERSON SYSTEM. 23:41.120 --> 23:42.152 align:start MARIO IS A LONG TIME BORDER 23:42.155 --> 23:43.253 align:start CONTROL AGENT WHO DEVELOPED THE 23:43.256 --> 23:45.722 align:start MISSING MIGRANT TEAM AND THE 23:45.725 --> 23:46.122 align:start HOPE IS THAT IT SPREADS 23:46.125 --> 23:47.323 align:start NATIONWIDE. 23:47.326 --> 23:50.226 align:start >> IT IS TO TRY TO PUT ALL THE 23:50.229 --> 23:51.594 align:start PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER BY 23:51.597 --> 23:53.696 align:start IMPLEMENTING THE COLLABORATION 23:53.699 --> 23:56.666 align:start WE HAVE WITH FOREIGN CONSULATES 23:56.669 --> 23:58.468 align:start FROM PRIMARILY MEXICO, GAUNT 23:58.471 --> 24:00.370 align:start MALALA, SALVADOR AND HONDURAS. 24:00.373 --> 24:02.705 align:start IT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THE 24:02.708 --> 24:03.440 align:start GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS 24:03.443 --> 24:04.441 align:start COLLABORATING IN THE AREA THAT 24:04.444 --> 24:06.309 align:start WE CAN HELP THEM MAKE A BETTER 24:06.312 --> 24:07.710 align:start USE OF THEIR LIMITED RESOURCES. 24:07.713 --> 24:09.345 align:start WHETHER IT BE OURS OR THEIRS. 24:09.348 --> 24:10.647 align:start WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S 24:10.650 --> 24:12.081 align:start OFFICES WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING 24:12.084 --> 24:13.516 align:start TO HELP OUT FACILITATE SOME OF 24:13.519 --> 24:15.852 align:start THE IDENTIFICATION SO THEY DON'T 24:15.855 --> 24:17.420 align:start HAVE TO BE EXPANDING THEIR 24:17.423 --> 24:20.957 align:start HOLDING FACILITIES AND BE ABLE 24:20.960 --> 24:22.625 align:start TO PROVIDE CLOSURE AND 24:22.628 --> 24:24.060 align:start RESOLUTION TO THIS DECEDENT AS 24:24.063 --> 24:25.195 align:start FAST AS POSSIBLE. 24:25.198 --> 24:27.363 align:start >> YOU HAVE FOUND PEOPLE IN THE 24:27.366 --> 24:29.265 align:start U.S. BUT ALSO WHO ARE STILL IN 24:29.268 --> 24:30.533 align:start MEXICO, THEY AREN'T EVEN CROSSED 24:30.536 --> 24:32.869 align:start OVER THE BORDER YET. 24:32.872 --> 24:35.238 align:start >> THIS THIRD PARTY INFORMATION 24:35.241 --> 24:36.372 align:start COLLECTION WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO 24:36.375 --> 24:38.608 align:start FACILITATE THAT BECOMING -- 24:38.611 --> 24:39.609 align:start BECOMING THE FOCAL POINT OF 24:39.612 --> 24:40.710 align:start IMMIGRATION, BUT AT THE SAME 24:40.713 --> 24:42.312 align:start TIME THE COLLABORATION WE HAVE 24:42.315 --> 24:43.446 align:start THROUGH OUR FOREIGN OPERATIONS 24:43.449 --> 24:47.183 align:start BRANCH AND COMMUNICATION WITH 24:47.186 --> 24:48.218 align:start THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO, 24:48.221 --> 24:49.786 align:start THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND TO 24:49.789 --> 24:50.086 align:start THAT GENERAL AREA AND LOCATE 24:50.089 --> 24:51.054 align:start THEM. 24:51.057 --> 24:53.756 align:start >> ONE OF THE IMAGES WE HAVE IS 24:53.759 --> 24:55.959 align:start A MAP THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING TO 24:55.962 --> 24:57.494 align:start ORGANIZATIONS OR RESOURCES IN 24:57.497 --> 24:59.662 align:start MEXICO SHOWING THE DISTANCE FROM 24:59.665 --> 25:01.197 align:start THE BORDER TO PLACES THAT SOME 25:01.200 --> 25:01.898 align:start OF THESE MIGRANTS HAVE HEARD IS 25:01.901 --> 25:04.467 align:start JUST A SHORT WALK. 25:04.470 --> 25:05.969 align:start >> CORRECT. 25:05.972 --> 25:07.704 align:start SO THE THING IS SMUGGLERS ARE 25:07.707 --> 25:09.606 align:start GOING TO DO WHATEVER IT IS TO 25:09.609 --> 25:11.808 align:start CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT IT'S JUST 25:11.811 --> 25:14.611 align:start GOING TO TAKE A DAY OR TWO TO 25:14.614 --> 25:16.045 align:start GET TO THE FINAL DESTINATION. 25:16.048 --> 25:18.081 align:start THESE PREVENTION CAMPAIGNS 25:18.084 --> 25:19.315 align:start DEVELOPED THROUGH OUR SECTOR IS 25:19.318 --> 25:21.251 align:start TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE BEFORE 25:21.254 --> 25:22.418 align:start THEY MAKE THAT DECISION TO AT 25:22.421 --> 25:25.655 align:start LEAST HAVE A GENERAL IDEA THAT 25:25.658 --> 25:25.922 align:start IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE A DAY OR 25:25.925 --> 25:27.991 align:start TWO. 25:27.994 --> 25:30.593 align:start JUST GIVE THEM A SENSE OF 25:30.596 --> 25:31.995 align:start REALITY BEFORE THE SMUG LETTER 25:31.998 --> 25:32.295 align:start GETS TO THEM AND BRAIN WASHES 25:32.298 --> 25:33.963 align:start THEM. 25:33.966 --> 25:35.632 align:start >> HOW DOES THIS WORK? 25:35.635 --> 25:37.267 align:start FAMILIES CONTACT WHO FIRST? 25:37.270 --> 25:39.469 align:start >> IN ORDER TO REPORT A MISSING 25:39.472 --> 25:41.104 align:start PERSON WE ASK FAMILIES TO 25:41.107 --> 25:42.238 align:start CONTACT THEIR FOREIGN 25:42.241 --> 25:43.373 align:start CONSULATES, FOREIGN CONSULATES 25:43.376 --> 25:44.374 align:start WILL COLLECT THE INFORMATION 25:44.377 --> 25:46.609 align:start NECESSARY IN ORDER TO SHARE WITH 25:46.612 --> 25:48.578 align:start BORDER PATROL IN REGARDS TO THE 25:48.581 --> 25:49.045 align:start WHERE BERNIE SANDERS OF THIS 25:49.048 --> 25:51.848 align:start MISSING PERSON. 25:51.851 --> 25:52.882 align:start IT CAN BE FROM A BASIC THEY WERE 25:52.885 --> 25:54.918 align:start APPREHENDED TO THE FOUR 25:54.921 --> 25:56.719 align:start CATEGORIES THAT WE HANDLE OF 25:56.722 --> 25:58.288 align:start RESCUE, OF BODY RECOVERY OR 25:58.291 --> 26:00.256 align:start IDENTIFICATION OF A DECEDENT. 26:00.259 --> 26:01.724 align:start ALL BASED ON THE THIRD-PARTY 26:01.727 --> 26:02.692 align:start INFORMATION THAT WE GET FROM THE 26:02.695 --> 26:04.127 align:start FAMILY MEMBER. 26:04.130 --> 26:04.527 align:start >> AND WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS 26:04.530 --> 26:08.865 align:start ULTIMATELY? 26:08.868 --> 26:10.400 align:start >> SO RIGHT NOW I WILL BE 26:10.403 --> 26:12.569 align:start COMPLETELY HONEST IT'S COSTING 26:12.572 --> 26:13.803 align:start US THE SALARY OF ONE OR TWO 26:13.806 --> 26:15.405 align:start AGENTS AND A SCANNER WE BOUGHT 26:15.408 --> 26:16.372 align:start FOR $600. 26:16.375 --> 26:17.640 align:start THAT'S HOW MUCH INVESTMENT WE'VE 26:17.643 --> 26:21.010 align:start DONE INTO IT FINANCIALLY. 26:21.013 --> 26:21.711 align:start IN REGARDS TO FAMILY 26:21.714 --> 26:23.046 align:start REUNIFICATION, OBVIOUSLY IT'S 26:23.049 --> 26:24.414 align:start GOING TO COST, YOU KNOW, THE 26:24.417 --> 26:26.082 align:start GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, MONEY TO 26:26.085 --> 26:29.018 align:start PROCESS THEM AND HOLD THEM AND 26:29.021 --> 26:30.987 align:start TRANSPORT THEM, BUT IF A BODY IS 26:30.990 --> 26:33.356 align:start FOUND THE DECEDENT IS FOUND, THE 26:33.359 --> 26:34.357 align:start FOREIGN CONSULATE IS 26:34.360 --> 26:37.126 align:start RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP THE 26:37.129 --> 26:38.861 align:start FAMILY ABROAD IN PAYING FOR THE 26:38.864 --> 26:40.229 align:start REPATRIATION OF THE REMAINS. 26:40.232 --> 26:42.131 align:start THE FOREIGN CONSULATE IS THE ONE 26:42.134 --> 26:42.865 align:start THAT MAKES THE OFFICIAL 26:42.868 --> 26:44.934 align:start IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTATION FOR 26:44.937 --> 26:46.135 align:start THE MEDICAL EXAMINER TO CERTIFY 26:46.138 --> 26:47.170 align:start THAT THIS IS THE PERSON. 26:47.173 --> 26:49.572 align:start >> THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE 26:49.575 --> 26:51.307 align:start SOMETIMES BORDER PATROL GETS A 26:51.310 --> 26:52.508 align:start BAD RAP FOR NOT HAVING THAT 26:52.511 --> 26:54.844 align:start COMPASSION, THAT EMOTIONAL PART 26:54.847 --> 26:56.512 align:start OF THIS JOB, BUT THIS IS PROOF 26:56.515 --> 26:58.047 align:start THAT YOU GUYS ARE AS AN AGENCY 26:58.050 --> 26:58.881 align:start TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME CLOSURE 26:58.884 --> 26:59.716 align:start TO THESE FAMILIES. 26:59.719 --> 27:01.951 align:start >> DEFINITELY. 27:01.954 --> 27:03.853 align:start I'M NOT HERE SPEAKING ON MY 27:03.856 --> 27:05.154 align:start BEHALF AND MY EXPERIENCE AS 27:05.157 --> 27:06.689 align:start BORDER OR WHATEVER, I'M SPEAKING 27:06.692 --> 27:08.992 align:start FOR THE AGENCY TO THE POINT THAT 27:08.995 --> 27:10.493 align:start THIS PROGRAM HAS ACTUALLY TAKEN 27:10.496 --> 27:13.396 align:start OFF NOT ONLY IN ARIZONA BUT IN 27:13.399 --> 27:15.665 align:start SOUTH TEXAS, THE RIO GRANDE, THE 27:15.668 --> 27:17.600 align:start RIO AND LAREDO SECTORS AND WE'RE 27:17.603 --> 27:19.402 align:start LOOKING AT MAKING A NATIONAL 27:19.405 --> 27:19.736 align:start PROGRAM TO EXPAND ACROSS THE 27:19.739 --> 27:20.903 align:start BORDER. 27:20.906 --> 27:22.505 align:start >> WHAT IS IT LIKE WHEN YOU'RE 27:22.508 --> 27:22.839 align:start ABLE TO GIVE THAT FAMILY SOME 27:22.842 --> 27:23.906 align:start ANSWERS? 27:23.909 --> 27:26.576 align:start >> DEFINITELY IT'S JUST THAT 27:26.579 --> 27:27.977 align:start CLOSURE OF RESOLUTION, WHEN THE 27:27.980 --> 27:29.846 align:start HUMANITY KNICKS IN IT DOESN'T 27:29.849 --> 27:31.447 align:start MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY ARE 27:31.450 --> 27:33.016 align:start FROM OR WHATNOT, WHAT BELIEFS 27:33.019 --> 27:34.384 align:start THEY MAY HAVE, THE FACT THEY ARE 27:34.387 --> 27:35.618 align:start SENDING YOU THAT THANK YOU, 27:35.621 --> 27:37.387 align:start THANK THE BORDER PATROL FOR WHAT 27:37.390 --> 27:37.854 align:start THEY'RE DOING, THAT'S THE MOST 27:37.857 --> 27:38.788 align:start REWARDING PART. 27:38.791 --> 27:41.357 align:start >> AND THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. 27:41.360 --> 27:42.725 align:start FOR ALL OF US AS ARIZONA PUBLIC 27:42.728 --> 27:44.760 align:start MEDIA, I'M LORRAINE RIVERA.