WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:16.949 >>> IN OUR DIFFICULT ECONOMIC TIMES THE FACES OF HARDSHIP 00:16.951 --> 00:20.686 TIMES THE FACES OF HARDSHIP DON'T ALWAYS MATCH EXPECTATIONS 00:20.688 --> 00:23.856 DON'T ALWAYS MATCH EXPECTATIONS OR APPEAR WHERE WE THINK THEY 00:23.858 --> 00:24.590 OR APPEAR WHERE WE THINK THEY SHOULD. 00:24.592 --> 00:26.291 SHOULD. >> GENTLEMAN IN HIS LATE 50s 00:26.293 --> 00:27.559 >> GENTLEMAN IN HIS LATE 50s LOOKING FOR FULL EMPLOYMENT IS 00:27.561 --> 00:30.062 LOOKING FOR FULL EMPLOYMENT IS NOT QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE I THINK 00:30.064 --> 00:31.964 NOT QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE I THINK IN MANY CASES. 00:31.966 --> 00:33.098 IN MANY CASES. I WAS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. 00:33.100 --> 00:34.800 I WAS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. I WAS ON ACCESS. 00:34.802 --> 00:36.935 I WAS ON ACCESS. YOU KNOW, AND -- AND FOOD 00:36.937 --> 00:37.836 YOU KNOW, AND -- AND FOOD STAMPS. 00:37.838 --> 00:39.371 STAMPS. AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, 00:39.373 --> 00:40.305 AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT. 00:40.307 --> 00:41.106 EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT. THAT'S A REALITY. 00:41.108 --> 00:42.808 THAT'S A REALITY. >> POVERTY COMES TO THE 00:42.810 --> 00:43.575 >> POVERTY COMES TO THE MIDDLE-CLASS SUBURBS OF PHOENIX 00:43.577 --> 00:44.243 MIDDLE-CLASS SUBURBS OF PHOENIX AND TUCSON. 00:44.245 --> 00:47.679 AND TUCSON. IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." 00:47.681 --> 00:48.814 IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." >> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" 00:48.816 --> 00:50.749 >> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A 00:50.751 --> 00:52.084 IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL 00:52.086 --> 00:53.886 GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF 00:53.888 --> 00:55.287 FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. 00:55.289 --> 00:58.824 ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED 00:58.826 --> 00:59.958 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. 00:59.960 --> 01:00.626 SUPPORT. ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR, 01:00.628 --> 01:04.430 ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR, MICHAEL CHIHAK. 01:04.432 --> 01:06.999 MICHAEL CHIHAK. >> WE CONCLUDE ARIZONA PUBLIC 01:07.001 --> 01:08.600 >> WE CONCLUDE ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA'S WEEK-LONG SERIES ON 01:08.602 --> 01:10.669 MEDIA'S WEEK-LONG SERIES ON POVERTY BY FOCUSING ON ITS 01:10.671 --> 01:13.105 POVERTY BY FOCUSING ON ITS INCREASE IN SUBURBAN PHOENIX AND 01:13.107 --> 01:13.806 INCREASE IN SUBURBAN PHOENIX AND TUCSON, WHERE LOCATION ALONE 01:13.808 --> 01:15.340 TUCSON, WHERE LOCATION ALONE OUGHT TO INFER A LIFESTYLE 01:15.342 --> 01:16.708 OUGHT TO INFER A LIFESTYLE WITHOUT HARDSHIP. 01:16.710 --> 01:20.412 WITHOUT HARDSHIP. WE'LL START WITH ONE MAN'S 01:20.414 --> 01:20.712 WE'LL START WITH ONE MAN'S STORY. 01:20.714 --> 01:22.081 STORY. >> MY NAME IS JIM CORCORAN. 01:22.083 --> 01:24.183 >> MY NAME IS JIM CORCORAN. I LIVE HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA. 01:24.185 --> 01:27.753 I LIVE HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA. I'M EMPLOYED BY THE NATURAL 01:27.755 --> 01:28.787 I'M EMPLOYED BY THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND PARKS AND 01:28.789 --> 01:30.055 RESOURCES AND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OF PIMA 01:30.057 --> 01:30.389 RECREATION DEPARTMENT OF PIMA COUNTY. 01:30.391 --> 01:34.526 COUNTY. I AM A RECREATION LEADER AT THE 01:34.528 --> 01:35.294 I AM A RECREATION LEADER AT THE PICTURE ROCKS COMMUNITY CENTER 01:35.296 --> 01:36.995 PICTURE ROCKS COMMUNITY CENTER IN PICTURE ROCKS, ARIZONA. 01:36.997 --> 01:40.199 IN PICTURE ROCKS, ARIZONA. BASICALLY, MY BACKGROUND IS IN 01:40.201 --> 01:42.968 BASICALLY, MY BACKGROUND IS IN EXERCISE AND SPORTS SCIENCES, 01:42.970 --> 01:45.904 EXERCISE AND SPORTS SCIENCES, HIGHER ED ADMINISTRATION, 01:45.906 --> 01:47.573 HIGHER ED ADMINISTRATION, ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS, COACHES 01:47.575 --> 01:48.674 ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS, COACHES EDUCATION, DRUGS AND SPORTS, 01:48.676 --> 01:51.777 EDUCATION, DRUGS AND SPORTS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 01:51.779 --> 01:54.713 THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND DID THAT FOR A NUMBER OF 01:54.715 --> 01:56.882 AND DID THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND COACHED AND GOT 01:56.884 --> 01:59.384 YEARS AND COACHED AND GOT INVOLVED HEAVILY WITH YOUTH 01:59.386 --> 02:00.552 INVOLVED HEAVILY WITH YOUTH SPORTS AND COACHING EDUCATION, 02:00.554 --> 02:02.221 SPORTS AND COACHING EDUCATION, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 02:02.223 --> 02:04.623 THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND THEN I KIND OF SWITCHED 02:04.625 --> 02:07.926 AND THEN I KIND OF SWITCHED GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND WENT OFF 02:07.928 --> 02:12.064 GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND WENT OFF INTO SALES AND MARKETING AND SO 02:12.066 --> 02:12.998 INTO SALES AND MARKETING AND SO FORTH. 02:13.000 --> 02:15.501 FORTH. BUT THINGS WERE KIND OF NOT 02:15.503 --> 02:17.469 BUT THINGS WERE KIND OF NOT MOVING SO WELL IN CHICAGO FOR 02:17.471 --> 02:17.736 MOVING SO WELL IN CHICAGO FOR ME. 02:17.738 --> 02:20.038 ME. SO I CAME OUT TO TUCSON IN 02:20.040 --> 02:23.342 SO I CAME OUT TO TUCSON IN FEBRUARY OF 2010. 02:23.344 --> 02:24.877 FEBRUARY OF 2010. AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS -- THE 02:24.879 --> 02:27.045 AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS -- THE MARKET WAS PRETTY ROUGH. 02:27.047 --> 02:28.280 MARKET WAS PRETTY ROUGH. IT WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT AT THAT 02:28.282 --> 02:28.947 IT WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT AT THAT POINT EVEN. 02:28.949 --> 02:32.284 POINT EVEN. BUT I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO 02:32.286 --> 02:34.553 BUT I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO EARN A POSITION AT THE NORTHWEST 02:34.555 --> 02:36.855 EARN A POSITION AT THE NORTHWEST YMCA HERE IN TUCSON IN THEIR 02:36.857 --> 02:38.056 YMCA HERE IN TUCSON IN THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND MARKETING 02:38.058 --> 02:39.091 MEMBERSHIP AND MARKETING DEPARTMENT AND WORKED THERE FOR 02:39.093 --> 02:42.494 DEPARTMENT AND WORKED THERE FOR A WHILE, WHICH WAS AN AWESOME 02:42.496 --> 02:42.895 A WHILE, WHICH WAS AN AWESOME EXPERIENCE. 02:42.897 --> 02:44.997 EXPERIENCE. I'VE WORKED WITH YMCAs IN 02:44.999 --> 02:46.365 I'VE WORKED WITH YMCAs IN CHICAGO AND PHILADELPHIA IN THE 02:46.367 --> 02:47.199 CHICAGO AND PHILADELPHIA IN THE PAST AS WELL. 02:47.201 --> 02:51.503 PAST AS WELL. AS PART OF MY JOURNEY IN 02:51.505 --> 02:53.772 AS PART OF MY JOURNEY IN WELLNESS AND SPORTS, AND SO 02:53.774 --> 02:54.072 WELLNESS AND SPORTS, AND SO FORTH. 02:54.074 --> 02:54.973 FORTH. SO THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS GREAT. 02:54.975 --> 02:56.608 SO THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS GREAT. WORKED WITH THEM FOR A WHILE. 02:56.610 --> 03:00.579 WORKED WITH THEM FOR A WHILE. AND THEN THINGS JUST KIND OF 03:00.581 --> 03:03.182 AND THEN THINGS JUST KIND OF CHANGED, AND I ENDED UP BEING 03:03.184 --> 03:03.582 CHANGED, AND I ENDED UP BEING UNEMPLOYED. 03:03.584 --> 03:04.783 UNEMPLOYED. JUST GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT 03:04.785 --> 03:07.786 JUST GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE MARKET AT 03:07.788 --> 03:08.320 WAS GOING ON IN THE MARKET AT THAT TIME. 03:08.322 --> 03:10.522 THAT TIME. AND YMCA'S NEEDS AND MY NEEDS 03:10.524 --> 03:13.025 AND YMCA'S NEEDS AND MY NEEDS AND SO FORTH. 03:13.027 --> 03:18.530 AND SO FORTH. AND THAT JUST WAS A DIFFICULT 03:18.532 --> 03:20.332 AND THAT JUST WAS A DIFFICULT TIME TO BE UNEMPLOYED AGAIN. 03:20.334 --> 03:22.067 TIME TO BE UNEMPLOYED AGAIN. THE MARKET HAD NOT IMPROVED. 03:22.069 --> 03:26.071 THE MARKET HAD NOT IMPROVED. SO I KEPT PURSUING, YOU KNOW, 03:26.073 --> 03:26.471 SO I KEPT PURSUING, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYMENT. 03:26.473 --> 03:29.174 EMPLOYMENT. CAME HERE TO ICS. 03:29.176 --> 03:31.543 CAME HERE TO ICS. HAD HEARD ABOUT THEM FROM A 03:31.545 --> 03:33.245 HAD HEARD ABOUT THEM FROM A FRIEND IN TUCSON. 03:33.247 --> 03:39.117 FRIEND IN TUCSON. AND WALKED IN. 03:39.119 --> 03:40.586 AND WALKED IN. MATT TANDELA, TERRI, THE STAFF 03:40.588 --> 03:41.553 MATT TANDELA, TERRI, THE STAFF WAS IMMEDIATELY SUPPORTIVE. 03:41.555 --> 03:45.090 WAS IMMEDIATELY SUPPORTIVE. AND JUST CAME IN, REBUILT MY 03:45.092 --> 03:46.058 AND JUST CAME IN, REBUILT MY RESUMES, HAD DIFFERENT TYPES OF 03:46.060 --> 03:49.394 RESUMES, HAD DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESUMES FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS, 03:49.396 --> 03:50.462 RESUMES FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS, WILLING TO DO ANYTHING THAT WAS, 03:50.464 --> 03:52.531 WILLING TO DO ANYTHING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, LEGAL, HEALTHY, AND 03:52.533 --> 03:53.532 YOU KNOW, LEGAL, HEALTHY, AND MORALLY ACCEPTABLE. 03:53.534 --> 03:56.101 MORALLY ACCEPTABLE. AND IT JUST WAS NOT COMING 03:56.103 --> 03:56.468 AND IT JUST WAS NOT COMING TOGETHER. 03:56.470 --> 03:57.603 TOGETHER. I DID ODD JOBS HERE AND THERE 03:57.605 --> 04:00.973 I DID ODD JOBS HERE AND THERE AND SO FORTH. 04:00.975 --> 04:03.942 AND SO FORTH. BUT THE PEOPLE HERE WERE JUST 04:03.944 --> 04:05.110 BUT THE PEOPLE HERE WERE JUST UNBELIEVABLY SUPPORTIVE AND 04:05.112 --> 04:09.181 UNBELIEVABLY SUPPORTIVE AND HELPED ME, GAVE ME JOB LEADS, 04:09.183 --> 04:10.682 HELPED ME, GAVE ME JOB LEADS, DIFFERENT VOLUNTEERS IN THE 04:10.684 --> 04:14.253 DIFFERENT VOLUNTEERS IN THE RESOURCE CENTER WERE JUST 04:14.255 --> 04:14.653 RESOURCE CENTER WERE JUST PHENOMENAL. 04:14.655 --> 04:18.023 PHENOMENAL. AND JUST KEPT PLUGGING ALONG. 04:18.025 --> 04:19.358 AND JUST KEPT PLUGGING ALONG. AND ACTUALLY HAD APPLIED FOR A 04:19.360 --> 04:22.961 AND ACTUALLY HAD APPLIED FOR A POSITION WITH PIMA COUNTY IN 04:22.963 --> 04:25.731 POSITION WITH PIMA COUNTY IN THEIR RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND 04:25.733 --> 04:27.733 THEIR RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND ACTUALLY HAD QUITE HONESTLY, 04:27.735 --> 04:30.235 ACTUALLY HAD QUITE HONESTLY, MICHAEL, FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT IT 04:30.237 --> 04:31.103 MICHAEL, FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT IT BECAUSE I HAD BEEN AT THE CITY 04:31.105 --> 04:32.504 BECAUSE I HAD BEEN AT THE CITY OF TUCSON, UNIVERSITY, ALL KINDS 04:32.506 --> 04:33.872 OF TUCSON, UNIVERSITY, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS. 04:33.874 --> 04:34.740 OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS. AND RECEIVED A CALL. 04:34.742 --> 04:36.942 AND RECEIVED A CALL. ASKED ME TO COME IN FOR AN 04:36.944 --> 04:37.309 ASKED ME TO COME IN FOR AN INTERVIEW. 04:37.311 --> 04:40.846 INTERVIEW. AND DID THAT AND WAS HIRED, 04:40.848 --> 04:42.414 AND DID THAT AND WAS HIRED, OFFERED THE POSITION THE NEXT 04:42.416 --> 04:42.781 OFFERED THE POSITION THE NEXT DAY. 04:42.783 --> 04:47.352 DAY. IT WAS A COURSE OF PROBABLY 04:47.354 --> 04:50.389 IT WAS A COURSE OF PROBABLY 2 1/2 YEARS TO AGAIN BECOME 04:50.391 --> 04:51.990 2 1/2 YEARS TO AGAIN BECOME FULLY GAINFULLY EMPLOYED. 04:51.992 --> 04:55.260 FULLY GAINFULLY EMPLOYED. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE I 04:55.262 --> 04:56.662 IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE I KNOW -- YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHO I 04:56.664 --> 04:56.928 KNOW -- YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHO I AM. 04:56.930 --> 04:58.230 AM. I KNOW WHERE I'VE BEEN AND WHAT 04:58.232 --> 05:00.132 I KNOW WHERE I'VE BEEN AND WHAT I'VE DONE AND WHAT I HAVE TO 05:00.134 --> 05:00.432 I'VE DONE AND WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER. 05:00.434 --> 05:04.036 OFFER. AND WITH THE MARKET BEING 05:04.038 --> 05:06.071 AND WITH THE MARKET BEING EXTREMELY UNCOOPERATIVE, I GUESS 05:06.073 --> 05:09.308 EXTREMELY UNCOOPERATIVE, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, CHALLENGING, AND 05:09.310 --> 05:11.076 I WOULD SAY, CHALLENGING, AND THE FACT THAT I AM, YOU KNOW -- 05:11.078 --> 05:18.583 THE FACT THAT I AM, YOU KNOW -- I'M NO LONG ER A YOUNG MAN COMIG 05:18.585 --> 05:19.351 I'M NO LONG ER A YOUNG MAN COMIG OUT OF COLLEGE. 05:19.353 --> 05:20.786 OUT OF COLLEGE. I'M A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCED IN 05:20.788 --> 05:22.220 I'M A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCED IN MY LIFE JOURNEYS HERE. 05:22.222 --> 05:25.057 MY LIFE JOURNEYS HERE. AND I BELIEVE I RAN INTO THAT AS 05:25.059 --> 05:25.357 AND I BELIEVE I RAN INTO THAT AS WELL. 05:25.359 --> 05:27.192 WELL. HAVING A HARD TIME WITH BEING, 05:27.194 --> 05:28.960 HAVING A HARD TIME WITH BEING, YOU KNOW, A GENTLEMAN IN HIS 05:28.962 --> 05:30.662 YOU KNOW, A GENTLEMAN IN HIS LATE 50s LOOKING FOR FULL 05:30.664 --> 05:31.063 LATE 50s LOOKING FOR FULL EMPLOYMENT. 05:31.065 --> 05:34.633 EMPLOYMENT. IT'S NOT QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE, I 05:34.635 --> 05:38.103 IT'S NOT QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE, I THINK, IN MANY CASES. 05:38.105 --> 05:39.671 THINK, IN MANY CASES. AND -- BUT TO BE ABLE TO WALK 05:39.673 --> 05:41.006 AND -- BUT TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS, TO ASK FOR 05:41.008 --> 05:44.843 THROUGH THAT PROCESS, TO ASK FOR SUPPORT HERE FROM PEOPLE AND 05:44.845 --> 05:45.944 SUPPORT HERE FROM PEOPLE AND FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND 05:45.946 --> 05:46.611 FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND COMMUNITY JUST KEPT PUSHING 05:46.613 --> 05:51.917 COMMUNITY JUST KEPT PUSHING THROUGH TO DO THE NEXT RIGHT 05:51.919 --> 05:54.286 THROUGH TO DO THE NEXT RIGHT THING AND TO NOT GIVE UP, NOT 05:54.288 --> 05:55.821 THING AND TO NOT GIVE UP, NOT LOSE FAITH, KEEP MOVING FORWARD, 05:55.823 --> 05:57.589 LOSE FAITH, KEEP MOVING FORWARD, PUT THE RIGHT ENERGY OUT THERE 05:57.591 --> 05:58.590 PUT THE RIGHT ENERGY OUT THERE AND MAYBE SOMETHING WOULD COME 05:58.592 --> 05:58.957 AND MAYBE SOMETHING WOULD COME TOGETHER. 05:58.959 --> 05:59.825 TOGETHER. BUT YES, IT WAS DIFFICULT. 05:59.827 --> 06:01.360 BUT YES, IT WAS DIFFICULT. AND THE OTHER PIECE, MICHAEL, 06:01.362 --> 06:03.128 AND THE OTHER PIECE, MICHAEL, WAS THAT EVERYTHING IS SO -- I 06:03.130 --> 06:04.696 WAS THAT EVERYTHING IS SO -- I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY MY AGE 06:04.698 --> 06:05.597 DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY MY AGE OR ANYTHING, EVEN THOUGH I 06:05.599 --> 06:06.698 OR ANYTHING, EVEN THOUGH I ALREADY MENTIONED IT. 06:06.700 --> 06:08.700 ALREADY MENTIONED IT. IT'S -- EVERYTHING'S SO 06:08.702 --> 06:12.537 IT'S -- EVERYTHING'S SO ELECTRONICALLY BASED. 06:12.539 --> 06:13.605 ELECTRONICALLY BASED. TO ACTUALLY GET IN FRONT OF 06:13.607 --> 06:14.473 TO ACTUALLY GET IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, 06:14.475 --> 06:17.409 SOMEBODY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A STRENGTH OF 06:17.411 --> 06:20.445 WHICH I BELIEVE IS A STRENGTH OF MINE, WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO 06:20.447 --> 06:21.179 MINE, WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO CRACK THROUGH THAT ELECTRONIC, 06:21.181 --> 06:22.948 CRACK THROUGH THAT ELECTRONIC, YOU KNOW, SCANNING OF YOUR 06:22.950 --> 06:27.619 YOU KNOW, SCANNING OF YOUR RESUME FOR CERTAIN BUZZWORDS. 06:27.621 --> 06:29.588 RESUME FOR CERTAIN BUZZWORDS. SO THAT WAS AN INTERESTING THING 06:29.590 --> 06:33.125 SO THAT WAS AN INTERESTING THING TO COPE WITH AND TO GET HELP 06:33.127 --> 06:35.026 TO COPE WITH AND TO GET HELP WITH AGAIN ON HOW TO REWRITE AND 06:35.028 --> 06:36.395 WITH AGAIN ON HOW TO REWRITE AND GET THOSE WORDS THAT MIGHT HELP 06:36.397 --> 06:36.661 GET THOSE WORDS THAT MIGHT HELP ME. 06:36.663 --> 06:38.630 ME. ONE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED, 06:38.632 --> 06:39.364 ONE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED, ANOTHER PIECE THAT I'VE LEARNED 06:39.366 --> 06:43.001 ANOTHER PIECE THAT I'VE LEARNED IN MY LIFE IS THAT I DO NEED TO 06:43.003 --> 06:44.069 IN MY LIFE IS THAT I DO NEED TO ACCEPT HELP FROM OTHERS AND NOT 06:44.071 --> 06:47.773 ACCEPT HELP FROM OTHERS AND NOT THINK I'VE GOT TO DO THIS ON MY 06:47.775 --> 06:48.039 THINK I'VE GOT TO DO THIS ON MY OWN. 06:48.041 --> 06:50.575 OWN. EVEN THOUGH I'M CAPABLE OF IT I 06:50.577 --> 06:51.910 EVEN THOUGH I'M CAPABLE OF IT I THINK A TEAM APPROACH AND 06:51.912 --> 06:53.044 THINK A TEAM APPROACH AND ALLOWING OTHERS TO HELP ALLOWS 06:53.046 --> 06:55.781 ALLOWING OTHERS TO HELP ALLOWS FOR THAT ENERGY TO STAY POSITIVE 06:55.783 --> 06:57.048 FOR THAT ENERGY TO STAY POSITIVE AND FOCUS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE 06:57.050 --> 06:58.116 AND FOCUS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE I BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO 06:58.118 --> 06:59.818 BECAUSE I BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO WILL TALK TO YOU ON THE PHONE OR 06:59.820 --> 07:00.952 WILL TALK TO YOU ON THE PHONE OR INTERVIEW YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO 07:00.954 --> 07:01.853 INTERVIEW YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL YOUR ENERGY. 07:01.855 --> 07:06.324 FEEL YOUR ENERGY. AND IF YOU'RE LIKE OH, MY 07:06.326 --> 07:10.128 AND IF YOU'RE LIKE OH, MY GOODNESS OR IT'S DESPERATION OR 07:10.130 --> 07:10.829 GOODNESS OR IT'S DESPERATION OR IT'S ANGER, FRUSTRATION, THAT 07:10.831 --> 07:11.263 IT'S ANGER, FRUSTRATION, THAT PLAYS INTO IT. 07:11.265 --> 07:12.697 PLAYS INTO IT. SO I THINK STAYING FOCUSED, 07:12.699 --> 07:16.034 SO I THINK STAYING FOCUSED, AGAIN, THROUGH THE HELP OF 07:16.036 --> 07:17.135 AGAIN, THROUGH THE HELP OF OTHERS AND SUPPORT MECHANISMS 07:17.137 --> 07:20.572 OTHERS AND SUPPORT MECHANISMS SUCH AS ICS REALLY HELPED ME TO 07:20.574 --> 07:23.909 SUCH AS ICS REALLY HELPED ME TO KEEP MY HEAD UP AND KEEP -- I'M 07:23.911 --> 07:25.477 KEEP MY HEAD UP AND KEEP -- I'M NOT SAYING I WAS THERE ALL THE 07:25.479 --> 07:26.711 NOT SAYING I WAS THERE ALL THE TIME EVERY DAY. 07:26.713 --> 07:27.813 TIME EVERY DAY. THERE WERE TIMES WHERE I WAS 07:27.815 --> 07:30.882 THERE WERE TIMES WHERE I WAS LIKE OH, MY GOODNESS, WHAT AM I 07:30.884 --> 07:31.583 LIKE OH, MY GOODNESS, WHAT AM I DOING, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN 07:31.585 --> 07:34.486 DOING, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SNEER BUT THEY WERE LESS THAN 07:34.488 --> 07:35.020 SNEER BUT THEY WERE LESS THAN THE POSITIVE DAYS. 07:35.022 --> 07:35.954 THE POSITIVE DAYS. MUCH LESS THAN THE POSITIVE 07:35.956 --> 07:36.254 MUCH LESS THAN THE POSITIVE DAYS. 07:36.256 --> 07:38.523 DAYS. I WAS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. 07:38.525 --> 07:40.792 I WAS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. I WAS ON ACCESS, YOU KNOW. 07:40.794 --> 07:42.627 I WAS ON ACCESS, YOU KNOW. AND FOOD STAMPS. 07:42.629 --> 07:44.262 AND FOOD STAMPS. AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, 07:44.264 --> 07:45.363 AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT. 07:45.365 --> 07:48.300 EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT. THAT'S THE REALITY. 07:48.302 --> 07:49.901 THAT'S THE REALITY. I'M GRATEFUL THAT I WAS ABLE TO 07:49.903 --> 07:52.337 I'M GRATEFUL THAT I WAS ABLE TO TAP INTO THOSE SERVICES AND USE 07:52.339 --> 07:54.239 TAP INTO THOSE SERVICES AND USE THEM TO HELP ME GET BACK TO 07:54.241 --> 07:55.674 THEM TO HELP ME GET BACK TO WHERE I -- NOT EVEN BACK TO, TO 07:55.676 --> 07:57.209 WHERE I -- NOT EVEN BACK TO, TO GO TO A NEW PLACE IN MY LIFE, A 07:57.211 --> 07:57.676 GO TO A NEW PLACE IN MY LIFE, A NEW EXPERIENCE. 07:57.678 --> 08:01.746 NEW EXPERIENCE. TO BE HUMBLE AND TO ALLOW THAT 08:01.748 --> 08:02.481 TO BE HUMBLE AND TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. 08:02.483 --> 08:03.281 TO HAPPEN. THAT'S ANOTHER BRANCH OF 08:03.283 --> 08:05.784 THAT'S ANOTHER BRANCH OF ALLOWING OTHERS TO HELP YOU. 08:05.786 --> 08:07.752 ALLOWING OTHERS TO HELP YOU. CERTAINLY NOT ABUSING THOSE 08:07.754 --> 08:08.720 CERTAINLY NOT ABUSING THOSE SYSTEMS AT ALL. 08:08.722 --> 08:11.423 SYSTEMS AT ALL. AND HOWEVER, USING THEM TO THE 08:11.425 --> 08:14.860 AND HOWEVER, USING THEM TO THE FULLEST AS LONG AS I NEEDED TO. 08:14.862 --> 08:16.561 FULLEST AS LONG AS I NEEDED TO. AND I DID DO THAT. 08:16.563 --> 08:17.996 AND I DID DO THAT. AND AGAIN, I HAD FAMILY AND 08:17.998 --> 08:21.132 AND AGAIN, I HAD FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO HELPED ME SAY JIM, 08:21.134 --> 08:22.734 FRIENDS WHO HELPED ME SAY JIM, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, WE KNOW 08:22.736 --> 08:23.768 DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, WE SUPPORT YOU TO 08:23.770 --> 08:24.469 WHO YOU ARE, WE SUPPORT YOU TO STAY FOCUSED. 08:24.471 --> 08:25.604 STAY FOCUSED. BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING 08:25.606 --> 08:26.638 BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 08:26.640 --> 08:27.372 TO HAPPEN. AND IT DID. 08:27.374 --> 08:30.942 AND IT DID. NOW ALL THOSE BENEFITS ARE -- I 08:30.944 --> 08:33.078 NOW ALL THOSE BENEFITS ARE -- I AM A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT, 08:33.080 --> 08:34.112 AM A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT, SELF-SUSTAINING MAN AGAIN. 08:34.114 --> 08:36.314 SELF-SUSTAINING MAN AGAIN. WHICH IS A GIFT. 08:36.316 --> 08:40.118 WHICH IS A GIFT. AND I -- IT WAS A VERY 08:40.120 --> 08:41.853 AND I -- IT WAS A VERY MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCE, THIS 08:41.855 --> 08:42.687 MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCE, THIS WHOLE PROCESS. 08:42.689 --> 08:44.055 WHOLE PROCESS. >> JIM CORCORAN IS AMONG 08:44.057 --> 08:45.757 >> JIM CORCORAN IS AMONG THOUSANDS WHO HAVE TURNED TO 08:45.759 --> 08:46.558 THOUSANDS WHO HAVE TURNED TO OTHERS FOR HELP. 08:46.560 --> 08:49.694 OTHERS FOR HELP. IN HIS CASE INTERFAITH COMMUNITY 08:49.696 --> 08:51.096 IN HIS CASE INTERFAITH COMMUNITY SERVICES IN SUBURBAN TUCSON. 08:51.098 --> 08:53.532 SERVICES IN SUBURBAN TUCSON. THE AGENCY'S ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR, 08:53.534 --> 08:54.966 THE AGENCY'S ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR, TERRI PATT-SMITH, IS WITNESS TO 08:54.968 --> 08:59.404 TERRI PATT-SMITH, IS WITNESS TO THE CHANGING PICTURE OF POVERTY. 08:59.406 --> 09:01.006 THE CHANGING PICTURE OF POVERTY. >> IS THE SLOW ECONOMY CAUSING A 09:01.008 --> 09:03.141 >> IS THE SLOW ECONOMY CAUSING A CHANGE IN NUMBERS OF CLIENT'LL 09:03.143 --> 09:04.609 CHANGE IN NUMBERS OF CLIENT'LL FOR THE AGENCY? 09:04.611 --> 09:06.711 FOR THE AGENCY? >> YES. 09:06.713 --> 09:08.280 >> YES. LOOKING BACK AT THE NUMBERS OF 09:08.282 --> 09:09.981 LOOKING BACK AT THE NUMBERS OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE SERVED IN OUR 09:09.983 --> 09:12.751 HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE SERVED IN OUR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, 09:12.753 --> 09:15.086 FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, BACK IN LIKE 2007 WE WERE JUST 09:15.088 --> 09:17.188 BACK IN LIKE 2007 WE WERE JUST OVER 2,000 HOUSEHOLDS FOR THE 09:17.190 --> 09:17.489 OVER 2,000 HOUSEHOLDS FOR THE YEAR. 09:17.491 --> 09:19.257 YEAR. AND THIS YEAR WE JUST FINISHED 09:19.259 --> 09:22.627 AND THIS YEAR WE JUST FINISHED UP AS OF JUNE 30th, AND IT'S 09:22.629 --> 09:22.928 UP AS OF JUNE 30th, AND IT'S 4,023. 09:22.930 --> 09:24.329 4,023. >> SO MORE THAN DOUBLE IN JUST 09:24.331 --> 09:25.697 >> SO MORE THAN DOUBLE IN JUST FIVE OR SIX YEARS -- 09:25.699 --> 09:26.698 FIVE OR SIX YEARS -- >> SIX YEARS. 09:26.700 --> 09:28.700 >> SIX YEARS. IT'S JUST BEEN A GRADUAL 09:28.702 --> 09:30.035 IT'S JUST BEEN A GRADUAL INCREASE EVERY YEAR OF NEED. 09:30.037 --> 09:31.870 INCREASE EVERY YEAR OF NEED. >> AND THAT KIND OF GOES IN LINE 09:31.872 --> 09:34.005 >> AND THAT KIND OF GOES IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE 09:34.007 --> 09:36.608 WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE GROWTH OF POVERTY IN SUBURBAN 09:36.610 --> 09:37.509 GROWTH OF POVERTY IN SUBURBAN AREAS. 09:37.511 --> 09:38.710 AREAS. PEOPLE IN NEED. 09:38.712 --> 09:40.512 PEOPLE IN NEED. HERE IN TUCSON ACCORDING TO THE 09:40.514 --> 09:43.081 HERE IN TUCSON ACCORDING TO THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION UP ABOUT 09:43.083 --> 09:45.350 BROOKINGS INSTITUTION UP ABOUT 83% OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO. 09:45.352 --> 09:46.518 83% OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO. AND YOU'RE SEEING THOSE NUMBERS 09:46.520 --> 09:48.053 AND YOU'RE SEEING THOSE NUMBERS REFLECTED IN YOUR CLIENTELE. 09:48.055 --> 09:49.054 REFLECTED IN YOUR CLIENTELE. >> YES. 09:49.056 --> 09:50.956 >> YES. AND THE THING ABOUT POVERTY THAT 09:50.958 --> 09:54.392 AND THE THING ABOUT POVERTY THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE AT ICS IS THAT 09:54.394 --> 09:57.495 WE'VE SEEN HERE AT ICS IS THAT THERE'S GENERATIONAL POVERTY, 09:57.497 --> 09:59.497 THERE'S GENERATIONAL POVERTY, WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE KIND OF 09:59.499 --> 10:01.967 WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE KIND OF FEEL IS THESE CYCLIC FAMILIES 10:01.969 --> 10:03.668 FEEL IS THESE CYCLIC FAMILIES THAT JUST KEEP USING THE SYSTEM 10:03.670 --> 10:04.970 THAT JUST KEEP USING THE SYSTEM AND CAN'T BREAK THEMSELVES OUT. 10:04.972 --> 10:07.672 AND CAN'T BREAK THEMSELVES OUT. BUT THE GROWTH HAS BEEN IN WHAT 10:07.674 --> 10:12.243 BUT THE GROWTH HAS BEEN IN WHAT YOU CALL SITUATIONAL POVERTY. 10:12.245 --> 10:13.378 YOU CALL SITUATIONAL POVERTY. SO SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED. 10:13.380 --> 10:14.779 SO SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED. AND IN THIS CASE ONE OF THE 10:14.781 --> 10:18.416 AND IN THIS CASE ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IS 10:18.418 --> 10:19.584 MAJOR THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IS THE ECONOMY. 10:19.586 --> 10:20.552 THE ECONOMY. PEOPLE LOSING JOBS. 10:20.554 --> 10:22.220 PEOPLE LOSING JOBS. THE HEALTH CARE COSTS. 10:22.222 --> 10:23.788 THE HEALTH CARE COSTS. THE CHILDCARE COSTS. 10:23.790 --> 10:25.190 THE CHILDCARE COSTS. AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 10:25.192 --> 10:26.625 AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ALL THOSE ISSUES IS REALLY 10:26.627 --> 10:28.360 ALL THOSE ISSUES IS REALLY MAKING THE MIDDLE CLASS, THE 10:28.362 --> 10:30.996 MAKING THE MIDDLE CLASS, THE STRONG WORKING MIDDLE CLASS, YOU 10:30.998 --> 10:32.764 STRONG WORKING MIDDLE CLASS, YOU KNOW, EDGE THEMSELVES DOWN 10:32.766 --> 10:34.566 KNOW, EDGE THEMSELVES DOWN CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT POOR 10:34.568 --> 10:35.634 CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT POOR OR POVERTY LEVEL. 10:35.636 --> 10:38.536 OR POVERTY LEVEL. >> SO PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER HAD TO 10:38.538 --> 10:40.105 >> SO PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER HAD TO SEEK HELP BEFORE ARE COMING 10:40.107 --> 10:41.606 SEEK HELP BEFORE ARE COMING FORWARD LOOKING FOR HELP? 10:41.608 --> 10:43.074 FORWARD LOOKING FOR HELP? >> RIGHT. 10:43.076 --> 10:45.510 >> RIGHT. MOST OF THE PEOPLE, I'D SAY A 10:45.512 --> 10:46.511 MOST OF THE PEOPLE, I'D SAY A HIGH PERCENTAGE THAT COME IN FOR 10:46.513 --> 10:47.245 HIGH PERCENTAGE THAT COME IN FOR THE CASE MANAGEMENT AND 10:47.247 --> 10:48.980 THE CASE MANAGEMENT AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, THEY'VE 10:48.982 --> 10:50.048 FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, THEY'VE NEVER HAD HELP BEFORE. 10:50.050 --> 10:52.384 NEVER HAD HELP BEFORE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE 10:52.386 --> 10:53.518 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ON THE SNAP PROGRAM 10:53.520 --> 10:55.920 ASKING TO BE ON THE SNAP PROGRAM FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITIONAL 10:55.922 --> 10:56.521 FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITIONAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 10:56.523 --> 10:58.757 ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE ASKING TO 10:58.759 --> 11:01.326 THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE ASKING TO HELP WITH THEIR RENT OR MORTGAGE 11:01.328 --> 11:01.726 HELP WITH THEIR RENT OR MORTGAGE PAYMENT. 11:01.728 --> 11:03.928 PAYMENT. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS MAYBE 11:03.930 --> 11:06.998 AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN ILL AND THEY HAVE 11:07.000 --> 11:08.099 THEY'VE BEEN ILL AND THEY HAVE NO HEALTH CARE. 11:08.101 --> 11:10.869 NO HEALTH CARE. AND THE JOB DOES NOT GIVE THEM 11:10.871 --> 11:11.403 AND THE JOB DOES NOT GIVE THEM TIME OFF. 11:11.405 --> 11:13.104 TIME OFF. AND SO THEY'VE LOST THAT MONEY. 11:13.106 --> 11:17.042 AND SO THEY'VE LOST THAT MONEY. OR THEY'VE BEEN UNEMPLOYED, 11:17.044 --> 11:18.309 OR THEY'VE BEEN UNEMPLOYED, THERE'S BEEN LAYOFFS, THERE'S 11:18.311 --> 11:22.313 THERE'S BEEN LAYOFFS, THERE'S BEEN DOWNSIZING OF EMPLOYMENT 11:22.315 --> 11:23.381 BEEN DOWNSIZING OF EMPLOYMENT HERE IN TUCSON. 11:23.383 --> 11:24.783 HERE IN TUCSON. SO IF THEY HAVE ANY AMOUNT OF 11:24.785 --> 11:26.818 SO IF THEY HAVE ANY AMOUNT OF GAP IN EMPLOYMENT, IT JUST 11:26.820 --> 11:29.621 GAP IN EMPLOYMENT, IT JUST THROWS THEIR WHOLE LIFESTYLE 11:29.623 --> 11:29.888 THROWS THEIR WHOLE LIFESTYLE OFF. 11:29.890 --> 11:31.456 OFF. AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS IS A 11:31.458 --> 11:32.424 AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS IS A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE LIVING 11:32.426 --> 11:34.392 LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE LIVING FROM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. 11:34.394 --> 11:36.227 FROM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SAFETY 11:36.229 --> 11:37.462 SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SAFETY NET, YOU KNOW, OF SOMETHING 11:37.464 --> 11:38.463 NET, YOU KNOW, OF SOMETHING ANYWHERE -- THEY'RE SAYING NO, 11:38.465 --> 11:41.066 ANYWHERE -- THEY'RE SAYING NO, YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST FIVE, 11:41.068 --> 11:44.969 YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST FIVE, SIX MONTHS OF SAFETY MONEY IN 11:44.971 --> 11:46.004 SIX MONTHS OF SAFETY MONEY IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. 11:46.006 --> 11:47.472 CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. OR EVEN A MAJOR CAR REPAIR CAN 11:47.474 --> 11:49.474 OR EVEN A MAJOR CAR REPAIR CAN THROW THEM OFF. 11:49.476 --> 11:50.141 THROW THEM OFF. AND NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION. 11:50.143 --> 11:51.409 AND NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION. SO THESE ARE ALL SITUATIONAL 11:51.411 --> 11:55.213 SO THESE ARE ALL SITUATIONAL THINGS THAT ARE MAKING THIS 11:55.215 --> 11:58.583 THINGS THAT ARE MAKING THIS MIDDLE CLASS, WHICH IS A LOT OF 11:58.585 --> 11:59.551 MIDDLE CLASS, WHICH IS A LOT OF THE SUBURBAN PEOPLE THAT HAVE 11:59.553 --> 12:01.086 THE SUBURBAN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY OKAY AND NOW ALL OF 12:01.088 --> 12:03.855 BEEN REALLY OKAY AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE SEEKING OUT 12:03.857 --> 12:04.155 A SUDDEN THEY'RE SEEKING OUT HELP. 12:04.157 --> 12:05.657 HELP. >> THAT MAY BE A SURPRISE TO 12:05.659 --> 12:07.092 >> THAT MAY BE A SURPRISE TO SOME OF OUR VIEWERS, THAT IN THE 12:07.094 --> 12:08.026 SOME OF OUR VIEWERS, THAT IN THE SUBURBS, WHICH WE GENERALLY 12:08.028 --> 12:10.895 SUBURBS, WHICH WE GENERALLY THINK OF AS BEING MIDDLE CLASS 12:10.897 --> 12:12.330 THINK OF AS BEING MIDDLE CLASS OR EVEN BEYOND, ESPECIALLY ON 12:12.332 --> 12:15.266 OR EVEN BEYOND, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF TUCSON, 12:15.268 --> 12:16.634 THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF TUCSON, THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE STRUGGLING. 12:16.636 --> 12:17.802 THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE STRUGGLING. DOES THAT SURPRISE YOU? 12:17.804 --> 12:19.237 DOES THAT SURPRISE YOU? >> NO. 12:19.239 --> 12:21.372 >> NO. BECAUSE I WOULD SAY A MAJORITY 12:21.374 --> 12:23.374 BECAUSE I WOULD SAY A MAJORITY OF THE CLIENTS THAT I AND MY 12:23.376 --> 12:24.642 OF THE CLIENTS THAT I AND MY CASE MANAGERS ARE SEEING, I SAY 12:24.644 --> 12:28.980 CASE MANAGERS ARE SEEING, I SAY EVEN UP TO 60%, ARE THE SUBURBAN 12:28.982 --> 12:31.850 EVEN UP TO 60%, ARE THE SUBURBAN PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING NOW 12:31.852 --> 12:32.884 PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING NOW UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO MAKE 12:32.886 --> 12:36.187 UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO MAKE A GO OF IT. 12:36.189 --> 12:38.123 A GO OF IT. AND THEY ARE ALMOST EMBARRASSED 12:38.125 --> 12:39.691 AND THEY ARE ALMOST EMBARRASSED OR ASHAMED TO BE THERE. 12:39.693 --> 12:42.460 OR ASHAMED TO BE THERE. I LOOK AT IT AS THEY SEE 12:42.462 --> 12:43.428 I LOOK AT IT AS THEY SEE THEMSELVES IN THE CYCLE OF 12:43.430 --> 12:44.262 THEMSELVES IN THE CYCLE OF GIVING AND NOT RECEIVING. 12:44.264 --> 12:45.730 GIVING AND NOT RECEIVING. AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE 12:45.732 --> 12:47.632 AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE IN THAT RECEIVING PART OF THE 12:47.634 --> 12:48.666 IN THAT RECEIVING PART OF THE CYCLE, AND IT'S EXTREMELY HARD 12:48.668 --> 12:50.502 CYCLE, AND IT'S EXTREMELY HARD FOR THEM TO COME IN HERE AND ASK 12:50.504 --> 12:51.002 FOR THEM TO COME IN HERE AND ASK FOR HELP. 12:51.004 --> 12:52.937 FOR HELP. >> WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE 12:52.939 --> 12:54.706 >> WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE STRUGGLING THAT WAY, HOW DO YOU 12:54.708 --> 12:55.874 STRUGGLING THAT WAY, HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN A POSITIVE ATTITUDE SO 12:55.876 --> 12:56.674 MAINTAIN A POSITIVE ATTITUDE SO THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE THE WORK 12:56.676 --> 12:57.575 THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE THE WORK YOU DO? 12:57.577 --> 13:00.011 YOU DO? YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN HERE 20 13:00.013 --> 13:00.311 YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS. 13:00.313 --> 13:01.279 YEARS. >> MM-HMM. 13:01.281 --> 13:02.981 >> MM-HMM. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? 13:02.983 --> 13:04.582 WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? OUR PHILOSOPHY AND MINE 13:04.584 --> 13:05.483 OUR PHILOSOPHY AND MINE ESPECIALLY AND I TRY TO TEACH 13:05.485 --> 13:06.351 ESPECIALLY AND I TRY TO TEACH THAT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO 13:06.353 --> 13:08.253 THAT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE, IS THAT YOU TAKE ONE 13:08.255 --> 13:09.654 WORK HERE, IS THAT YOU TAKE ONE SITUATION AT A TIME. 13:09.656 --> 13:11.055 SITUATION AT A TIME. YOU TAKE ONE CLIENT, ONE 13:11.057 --> 13:12.090 YOU TAKE ONE CLIENT, ONE HOUSEHOLD AT A TIME, AND YOU 13:12.092 --> 13:13.391 HOUSEHOLD AT A TIME, AND YOU TAKE THAT AS A WHOLE SITUATION. 13:13.393 --> 13:15.026 TAKE THAT AS A WHOLE SITUATION. YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE COME IN 13:15.028 --> 13:18.196 YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE COME IN FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE. 13:18.198 --> 13:19.664 FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE. BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY STRUGGLING 13:19.666 --> 13:20.865 BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY STRUGGLING WITH A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER 13:20.867 --> 13:21.199 WITH A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS. 13:21.201 --> 13:22.066 THINGS. SO THAT'S YOUR CHALLENGE AND 13:22.068 --> 13:23.668 SO THAT'S YOUR CHALLENGE AND YOUR POSITIVE THING IS TO SAY 13:23.670 --> 13:24.702 YOUR POSITIVE THING IS TO SAY OKAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS 13:24.704 --> 13:25.870 OKAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS SITUATION AND HELP THEM, YOU 13:25.872 --> 13:27.672 SITUATION AND HELP THEM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S HELPING THEM 13:27.674 --> 13:31.209 KNOW, WHETHER IT'S HELPING THEM HERE AT ICS OR REFERRING THEM 13:31.211 --> 13:31.476 HERE AT ICS OR REFERRING THEM OUT. 13:31.478 --> 13:32.777 OUT. AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU'VE MADE A 13:32.779 --> 13:34.212 AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU'VE MADE A DIFFERENCE FOR THEM BECAUSE A 13:34.214 --> 13:35.380 DIFFERENCE FOR THEM BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T EVEN 13:35.382 --> 13:35.980 LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO GO. 13:35.982 --> 13:37.048 KNOW WHERE TO GO. THIS IS THE FIRST-TIME SITUATION 13:37.050 --> 13:37.782 THIS IS THE FIRST-TIME SITUATION FOR THEM. 13:37.784 --> 13:40.318 FOR THEM. SO YOU'RE OPENING THEM UP TO A 13:40.320 --> 13:41.686 SO YOU'RE OPENING THEM UP TO A WORLD WHERE NOW THEY'VE PUT INTO 13:41.688 --> 13:43.154 WORLD WHERE NOW THEY'VE PUT INTO THE SYSTEM AND NOW THE SYSTEM IS 13:43.156 --> 13:45.557 THE SYSTEM AND NOW THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO COME BACK AND HELP 13:45.559 --> 13:45.857 GOING TO COME BACK AND HELP THEM. 13:45.859 --> 13:47.392 THEM. AND SO THAT'S -- THAT MAKES YOU 13:47.394 --> 13:47.926 AND SO THAT'S -- THAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD. 13:47.928 --> 13:49.894 FEEL GOOD. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE 13:49.896 --> 13:50.261 YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE SUCCESSES. 13:50.263 --> 13:51.563 SUCCESSES. AND IT CAN BE ONE AT A TIME. 13:51.565 --> 13:54.532 AND IT CAN BE ONE AT A TIME. YOU DON'T LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE 13:54.534 --> 13:56.234 YOU DON'T LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE SITTING OUT IN THE LOBBY OR 13:56.236 --> 13:57.435 SITTING OUT IN THE LOBBY OR LINED UP AT THE FOOD BANK. 13:57.437 --> 13:59.003 LINED UP AT THE FOOD BANK. YOU JUST TAKE THAT ONE SITTING 13:59.005 --> 14:00.104 YOU JUST TAKE THAT ONE SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU 14:00.106 --> 14:03.441 IN FRONT OF YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO MAKE THOSE CHALLENGES 14:03.443 --> 14:04.909 CAN DO TO MAKE THOSE CHALLENGES REALLY GIVE THEM A CHALLENGE 14:04.911 --> 14:05.777 REALLY GIVE THEM A CHALLENGE TOO. 14:05.779 --> 14:06.411 TOO. THAT'S IMPORTANT. 14:06.413 --> 14:08.146 THAT'S IMPORTANT. THEY HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF 14:08.148 --> 14:09.013 THEY HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. 14:09.015 --> 14:11.583 WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE DO 14:11.585 --> 14:12.851 AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE DO BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET THE 14:12.853 --> 14:13.952 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET THE SITUATION BETTER. 14:13.954 --> 14:16.054 SITUATION BETTER. THEY WANT TO DO WHAT THEY NEED 14:16.056 --> 14:18.623 THEY WANT TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO GET SELF-SUFFICIENT 14:18.625 --> 14:18.923 TO DO TO GET SELF-SUFFICIENT AGAIN. 14:18.925 --> 14:23.294 AGAIN. >> IN FACT, THE AMERICAN CULTURE 14:23.296 --> 14:26.631 >> IN FACT, THE AMERICAN CULTURE IS ONE OF TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF 14:26.633 --> 14:27.832 IS ONE OF TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF INDIVIDUALITY, PULL YOURSELF UP 14:27.834 --> 14:29.300 INDIVIDUALITY, PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS. 14:29.302 --> 14:30.969 BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO 14:30.971 --> 14:33.104 WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO WOULD SAY, WELL, THE CLIENTELE 14:33.106 --> 14:35.240 WOULD SAY, WELL, THE CLIENTELE HERE JUST OUGHT TO DO THAT FOR 14:35.242 --> 14:36.341 HERE JUST OUGHT TO DO THAT FOR THEMSELVES? 14:36.343 --> 14:37.242 THEMSELVES? >> I'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE WE 14:37.244 --> 14:38.843 >> I'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS THAT 14:38.845 --> 14:39.310 HAVE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK HERE. 14:39.312 --> 14:40.678 WORK HERE. SO THEY'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY 14:40.680 --> 14:42.714 SO THEY'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND A MAJORITY OF THEM LIVE UP 14:42.716 --> 14:45.083 AND A MAJORITY OF THEM LIVE UP HERE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF 14:45.085 --> 14:45.416 HERE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF TUCSON. 14:45.418 --> 14:47.285 TUCSON. AND THEY'VE SEEN THEIR NEIGHBORS 14:47.287 --> 14:48.519 AND THEY'VE SEEN THEIR NEIGHBORS IN HERE. 14:48.521 --> 14:49.921 IN HERE. THEY KNOW AND WE KNOW THAT COULD 14:49.923 --> 14:50.822 THEY KNOW AND WE KNOW THAT COULD BE THAT PERSON SITTING NEXT TO 14:50.824 --> 14:53.691 BE THAT PERSON SITTING NEXT TO YOU IN CHURCH OR IN LINE AT THE 14:53.693 --> 14:56.227 YOU IN CHURCH OR IN LINE AT THE BANK OR -- THEY ARE JUST AS 14:56.229 --> 14:57.495 BANK OR -- THEY ARE JUST AS SURPRISED THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE 14:57.497 --> 15:00.565 SURPRISED THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE 15:00.567 --> 15:00.965 THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE STRUGGLING. 15:00.967 --> 15:02.567 STRUGGLING. >> THAT BROOKINGS INSTITUTION 15:02.569 --> 15:04.135 >> THAT BROOKINGS INSTITUTION STUDY SHOWING THAT POVERTY IN 15:04.137 --> 15:06.104 STUDY SHOWING THAT POVERTY IN SUBURBAN TUCSON ROSE 83% IN A 15:06.106 --> 15:07.605 SUBURBAN TUCSON ROSE 83% IN A DECADE ALSO SHOWS THE INCREASE 15:07.607 --> 15:11.643 DECADE ALSO SHOWS THE INCREASE IN SUBURBAN PHOENIX WAS 134%. 15:11.645 --> 15:13.878 IN SUBURBAN PHOENIX WAS 134%. SAM SUMNER OF THE TEMPE 15:13.880 --> 15:14.879 SAM SUMNER OF THE TEMPE COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY SPOKE TO 15:14.881 --> 15:16.114 COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY SPOKE TO ME ABOUT IT. 15:16.116 --> 15:18.449 ME ABOUT IT. >> WE'RE HERE IN THE PANTRY OF 15:18.451 --> 15:19.651 >> WE'RE HERE IN THE PANTRY OF THE COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY. 15:19.653 --> 15:22.420 THE COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY. AND THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY. 15:22.422 --> 15:24.122 AND THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY. IS THAT EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT'S 15:24.124 --> 15:26.157 IS THAT EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE AGENCY'S 15:26.159 --> 15:26.591 GOING ON WITH THE AGENCY'S BUSINESS? 15:26.593 --> 15:28.826 BUSINESS? YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF DEMAND. 15:28.828 --> 15:31.763 YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF DEMAND. >> YES. 15:31.765 --> 15:33.031 >> YES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS 15:33.033 --> 15:34.332 AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS PORTION OBVIOUSLY, FOOD PANTRY, 15:34.334 --> 15:35.700 PORTION OBVIOUSLY, FOOD PANTRY, FOOD IS A PIECE OF -- ONE OF THE 15:35.702 --> 15:38.336 FOOD IS A PIECE OF -- ONE OF THE PIECES OF WHAT WE DO. 15:38.338 --> 15:39.637 PIECES OF WHAT WE DO. AND WE'VE SEEN IT INCREASE. 15:39.639 --> 15:42.607 AND WE'VE SEEN IT INCREASE. IT'S BEEN GRADUAL OVER THE LAST 15:42.609 --> 15:45.443 IT'S BEEN GRADUAL OVER THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS WHERE THERE'S A 15:45.445 --> 15:47.979 FIVE, SIX YEARS WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE 15:47.981 --> 15:50.848 LOT OF DEMAND FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT. 15:50.850 --> 15:51.683 SOMETHING TO EAT. INTERESTINGLY, IT'S SUMMER. 15:51.685 --> 15:52.650 INTERESTINGLY, IT'S SUMMER. SUMMER'S ONE OF THE WORST TIMES 15:52.652 --> 15:54.852 SUMMER'S ONE OF THE WORST TIMES FOR A LOT OF FOOD PANTRIES, 15:54.854 --> 15:57.522 FOR A LOT OF FOOD PANTRIES, ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE 15:57.524 --> 16:01.192 ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE METROPOLITAN PHOENIX AREA. 16:01.194 --> 16:03.528 METROPOLITAN PHOENIX AREA. SNOWBIRDS ARE BACK HOME. 16:03.530 --> 16:05.029 SNOWBIRDS ARE BACK HOME. AND I DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM 16:05.031 --> 16:06.164 AND I DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM SNOWBIRDS, BUT THE RETIREES, 16:06.166 --> 16:10.535 SNOWBIRDS, BUT THE RETIREES, WE'LL CALL IT THAT, THEY HELP 16:10.537 --> 16:11.970 WE'LL CALL IT THAT, THEY HELP STOCK SHELVES BY HAVING DRIVES 16:11.972 --> 16:13.671 STOCK SHELVES BY HAVING DRIVES AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. 16:13.673 --> 16:15.006 AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION. 16:15.008 --> 16:17.976 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION. AND UNFORTUNATELY, FOOD PANTRIES 16:17.978 --> 16:20.611 AND UNFORTUNATELY, FOOD PANTRIES TEND TO SUFFER. 16:20.613 --> 16:22.613 TEND TO SUFFER. WE STILL HAVE THE DEMAND IN THE 16:22.615 --> 16:24.315 WE STILL HAVE THE DEMAND IN THE SUMMER, SAME DEMAND AS WE HAVE 16:24.317 --> 16:26.951 SUMMER, SAME DEMAND AS WE HAVE IN DECEMBER OR FEBRUARY OR ANY 16:26.953 --> 16:27.585 IN DECEMBER OR FEBRUARY OR ANY OTHER MONTH. 16:27.587 --> 16:29.654 OTHER MONTH. WE SEE A LOT OF FOOD GOING OUT. 16:29.656 --> 16:31.622 WE SEE A LOT OF FOOD GOING OUT. >> WHAT OTHER SERVICES DOES THE 16:31.624 --> 16:34.158 >> WHAT OTHER SERVICES DOES THE AGENCY PROVIDE, AND WHAT ARE YOU 16:34.160 --> 16:35.326 AGENCY PROVIDE, AND WHAT ARE YOU SEEING TRENDWISE WITH THE 16:35.328 --> 16:36.694 SEEING TRENDWISE WITH THE DEMANDS FOR THOSE SERVICES? 16:36.696 --> 16:40.264 DEMANDS FOR THOSE SERVICES? >> FOR TEMPE COMMUNITY ACTION 16:40.266 --> 16:42.867 >> FOR TEMPE COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY WE HAVE REALLY TWO SIDES. 16:42.869 --> 16:46.104 AGENCY WE HAVE REALLY TWO SIDES. WE HAVE THE SENIOR SERVICES 16:46.106 --> 16:46.404 WE HAVE THE SENIOR SERVICES SIDE. 16:46.406 --> 16:49.774 SIDE. THAT SIDE HAS SOCIAL, 16:49.776 --> 16:51.042 THAT SIDE HAS SOCIAL, RECREATIONAL EVENTS FOR SENIORS 16:51.044 --> 16:52.176 RECREATIONAL EVENTS FOR SENIORS AND THE OTHER ONES RESPONSIBLE 16:52.178 --> 16:54.545 AND THE OTHER ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HOME-DELIVERED MEAL 16:54.547 --> 16:57.715 FOR THE HOME-DELIVERED MEAL PROCESS, WHAT MANY PEOPLE ACROSS 16:57.717 --> 16:59.350 PROCESS, WHAT MANY PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION KNOW AS MEALS ON 16:59.352 --> 17:00.251 THE NATION KNOW AS MEALS ON WHEELS. 17:00.253 --> 17:02.620 WHEELS. WE'VE SEEN AN UPTAKE IN THE 17:02.622 --> 17:04.155 WE'VE SEEN AN UPTAKE IN THE SERVICES FOR MEALS ON WHEELS. 17:04.157 --> 17:05.790 SERVICES FOR MEALS ON WHEELS. AND IT'S HOLDING CONSISTENTLY ON 17:05.792 --> 17:08.092 AND IT'S HOLDING CONSISTENTLY ON THOSE COMING INTO THE SERVICES, 17:08.094 --> 17:11.863 THOSE COMING INTO THE SERVICES, LEARNING HOW TO REACH OUT TO A 17:11.865 --> 17:15.967 LEARNING HOW TO REACH OUT TO A NEW BABY BOOMER GENERATION THAT 17:15.969 --> 17:18.636 NEW BABY BOOMER GENERATION THAT IS NOT NORMALLY KNOWN TO REACH 17:18.638 --> 17:19.437 IS NOT NORMALLY KNOWN TO REACH OUT TO SENIOR SERVICES. 17:19.439 --> 17:20.872 OUT TO SENIOR SERVICES. BUT WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO 17:20.874 --> 17:21.739 BUT WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO REACH OUT TO THEM. 17:21.741 --> 17:23.307 REACH OUT TO THEM. THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, 17:23.309 --> 17:26.577 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THAT'S MY SIDE, THE CAP, 17:26.579 --> 17:27.912 THAT'S MY SIDE, THE CAP, TRADITIONAL CAP SERVICES, THAT'S 17:27.914 --> 17:29.580 TRADITIONAL CAP SERVICES, THAT'S RENT UTILITY. 17:29.582 --> 17:34.652 RENT UTILITY. SO RENTS, MORTGAGES, LIGHTS, 17:34.654 --> 17:36.454 SO RENTS, MORTGAGES, LIGHTS, WATER, GAS. 17:36.456 --> 17:38.122 WATER, GAS. IT'S THE FOOD. 17:38.124 --> 17:39.857 IT'S THE FOOD. IT IS HOMELESS SERVICES. 17:39.859 --> 17:42.827 IT IS HOMELESS SERVICES. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GARDEN. 17:42.829 --> 17:44.662 WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GARDEN. WE ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED 17:44.664 --> 17:48.466 WE ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED HEALTH START, WHICH IS A PROGRAM 17:48.468 --> 17:52.303 HEALTH START, WHICH IS A PROGRAM FOR -- IT'S A PRENATAL PROGRAM. 17:52.305 --> 17:53.805 FOR -- IT'S A PRENATAL PROGRAM. >> AND YOU'RE SEEING INCREASED 17:53.807 --> 17:55.673 >> AND YOU'RE SEEING INCREASED DEMAND FOR ALL OF THESE SERVICES 17:55.675 --> 17:56.874 DEMAND FOR ALL OF THESE SERVICES ACROSS THE WAY, RIGHT? 17:56.876 --> 17:59.243 ACROSS THE WAY, RIGHT? >> FOR EVERYBODY. 17:59.245 --> 18:00.178 >> FOR EVERYBODY. >> AND WHAT'S THE DRIVING FORCE 18:00.180 --> 18:01.212 >> AND WHAT'S THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THAT? 18:01.214 --> 18:03.681 BEHIND THAT? OBVIOUSLY, THE ECONOMY IS STILL 18:03.683 --> 18:05.283 OBVIOUSLY, THE ECONOMY IS STILL VERY SLOW AND THERE WAS THE BIG 18:05.285 --> 18:06.017 VERY SLOW AND THERE WAS THE BIG HOUSING BUST. 18:06.019 --> 18:08.586 HOUSING BUST. BUT ARE THERE OTHER ISSUES 18:08.588 --> 18:08.953 BUT ARE THERE OTHER ISSUES INVOLVED? 18:08.955 --> 18:14.025 INVOLVED? >> WELL, IN TEMPE HOUSING IS A 18:14.027 --> 18:15.893 >> WELL, IN TEMPE HOUSING IS A PREMIUM. 18:15.895 --> 18:22.767 PREMIUM. WE MAY BE CONSIDERED A SUBURB OF 18:22.769 --> 18:23.501 WE MAY BE CONSIDERED A SUBURB OF PHOENIX, BUT SOME THINGS ARE 18:23.503 --> 18:25.103 PHOENIX, BUT SOME THINGS ARE KIND OF TRADITIONAL HERE IN 18:25.105 --> 18:28.239 KIND OF TRADITIONAL HERE IN TEMPE, WHERE THE FURTHER SOUTH 18:28.241 --> 18:32.310 TEMPE, WHERE THE FURTHER SOUTH YOU MOVE THE MORE WELL TO DO. 18:32.312 --> 18:35.646 YOU MOVE THE MORE WELL TO DO. THE FURTHER NORTH YOU GO, IT'S 18:35.648 --> 18:40.251 THE FURTHER NORTH YOU GO, IT'S MORE RENTERS, MORE FOLKS 18:40.253 --> 18:41.185 MORE RENTERS, MORE FOLKS SCRAMBLING FOR HOUSING AND 18:41.187 --> 18:43.187 SCRAMBLING FOR HOUSING AND HOUSING IS AT A PREMIUM. 18:43.189 --> 18:45.056 HOUSING IS AT A PREMIUM. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- I 18:45.058 --> 18:47.325 YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- I NEED TO CHECK THE SPECIFICS, BUT 18:47.327 --> 18:52.663 NEED TO CHECK THE SPECIFICS, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND IN THE 30% 18:52.665 --> 18:54.499 I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND IN THE 30% POSSIBLY UP TO 50% FOR RENTERS, 18:54.501 --> 18:56.400 POSSIBLY UP TO 50% FOR RENTERS, 30% FOR THOSE THAT ARE 18:56.402 --> 18:58.503 30% FOR THOSE THAT ARE HOMEOWNERS ARE PAYING MORE THAN 18:58.505 --> 19:00.338 HOMEOWNERS ARE PAYING MORE THAN THE 33 -- A THIRD OF WHAT YOU 19:00.340 --> 19:01.672 THE 33 -- A THIRD OF WHAT YOU BRING IN, WHICH SHOULD BE WHAT 19:01.674 --> 19:03.374 BRING IN, WHICH SHOULD BE WHAT YOU PAY OUT FOR RENT. 19:03.376 --> 19:06.310 YOU PAY OUT FOR RENT. YOU HAVE A LOT OF TEMPEANS THAT 19:06.312 --> 19:08.112 YOU HAVE A LOT OF TEMPEANS THAT ARE PAYING MUCH MORE THAN THAT 19:08.114 --> 19:09.580 ARE PAYING MUCH MORE THAN THAT THIRD FOR HOUSING. 19:09.582 --> 19:12.083 THIRD FOR HOUSING. AND THAT CAUSES PEOPLE TO MAKE 19:12.085 --> 19:12.817 AND THAT CAUSES PEOPLE TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS. 19:12.819 --> 19:17.288 DIFFICULT DECISIONS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSING 19:17.290 --> 19:18.856 IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSING AND IT COSTS 50% OF YOUR 19:18.858 --> 19:20.424 AND IT COSTS 50% OF YOUR HOUSEHOLD BUDGET, WHAT GETS 19:20.426 --> 19:23.294 HOUSEHOLD BUDGET, WHAT GETS CAUGHT -- WHAT GETS CUT? 19:23.296 --> 19:25.296 CAUGHT -- WHAT GETS CUT? YOU KNOW, IS IT FOOD? 19:25.298 --> 19:27.064 YOU KNOW, IS IT FOOD? IS IT YOUR UTILITIES? 19:27.066 --> 19:31.035 IS IT YOUR UTILITIES? ARE YOU LATE ON YOUR RENT OR 19:31.037 --> 19:31.802 ARE YOU LATE ON YOUR RENT OR YOUR MORTGAGE? 19:31.804 --> 19:32.403 YOUR MORTGAGE? WHAT GIVES? 19:32.405 --> 19:33.037 WHAT GIVES? >> HEALTH CARE. 19:33.039 --> 19:35.673 >> HEALTH CARE. >> YOU'RE GOING WHERE I'M -- 19:35.675 --> 19:36.407 >> YOU'RE GOING WHERE I'M -- THERE IT IS. 19:36.409 --> 19:38.376 THERE IT IS. ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT 19:38.378 --> 19:41.345 ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN IS IF YOU 19:41.347 --> 19:43.314 COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN IS IF YOU GET SICK OR IF THERE'S A CAR 19:43.316 --> 19:47.885 GET SICK OR IF THERE'S A CAR THAT BREAKS DOWN OR ANY OF THOSE 19:47.887 --> 19:48.986 THAT BREAKS DOWN OR ANY OF THOSE SMALLER THINGS THAT FOR A LOT OF 19:48.988 --> 19:54.058 SMALLER THINGS THAT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION THEY 19:54.060 --> 19:55.092 PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION THEY WOULDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT 19:55.094 --> 19:56.761 WOULDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT BUT WHEN YOU'RE LIVING ON THE 19:56.763 --> 19:58.829 BUT WHEN YOU'RE LIVING ON THE EDGE ONE SMALL HICCUP, 19:58.831 --> 19:59.864 EDGE ONE SMALL HICCUP, ESPECIALLY HELTCARE, IT CAN 19:59.866 --> 20:03.434 ESPECIALLY HELTCARE, IT CAN CAUSE A FRAGILE BUDGET TO BECOME 20:03.436 --> 20:03.834 CAUSE A FRAGILE BUDGET TO BECOME DISASTROUS. 20:03.836 --> 20:05.736 DISASTROUS. >> DO PEOPLE WHO MAKE HAVING 20:05.738 --> 20:08.372 >> DO PEOPLE WHO MAKE HAVING THOSE KINDS OF EXPERIENCES, ARE 20:08.374 --> 20:10.875 THOSE KINDS OF EXPERIENCES, ARE THEY IN THREAT OF BECOMING 20:10.877 --> 20:11.876 THEY IN THREAT OF BECOMING PERMANENTLY IMPOVERISHED? 20:11.878 --> 20:14.745 PERMANENTLY IMPOVERISHED? ARE WE SEEING THAT HAPPEN? 20:14.747 --> 20:19.317 ARE WE SEEING THAT HAPPEN? >> YES AND NO. 20:19.319 --> 20:22.853 >> YES AND NO. THE THREAT IS THERE. 20:22.855 --> 20:24.889 THE THREAT IS THERE. THAT IS A REAL POSSIBILITY FOR A 20:24.891 --> 20:26.524 THAT IS A REAL POSSIBILITY FOR A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 20:26.526 --> 20:30.428 NUMBER OF PEOPLE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO 20:30.430 --> 20:34.198 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO DO HERE IS BOTH DRIVEN FROM US 20:34.200 --> 20:36.934 DO HERE IS BOTH DRIVEN FROM US AND DRIVEN FROM THE CLIENTS THAT 20:36.936 --> 20:38.869 AND DRIVEN FROM THE CLIENTS THAT COME TO US IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE 20:38.871 --> 20:40.304 COME TO US IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT 20:40.306 --> 20:44.141 THAT WANT TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND YOU SEE PEOPLE ACTIVELY 20:44.143 --> 20:47.645 AND YOU SEE PEOPLE ACTIVELY GOING ABOUT DIFFERENT AVENUES TO 20:47.647 --> 20:48.946 GOING ABOUT DIFFERENT AVENUES TO IMPROVE WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN 20:48.948 --> 20:49.947 IMPROVE WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THEIR LIVES. 20:49.949 --> 20:55.052 THEIR LIVES. SO IF THAT MEANS THEY COME TO 20:55.054 --> 20:55.753 SO IF THAT MEANS THEY COME TO OURISH AND I DIDN'T SAY THIS 20:55.755 --> 20:56.087 OURISH AND I DIDN'T SAY THIS EARLIER. 20:56.089 --> 20:56.821 EARLIER. WE HAVE A FULL-TIME CASE MANAGER 20:56.823 --> 20:57.121 WE HAVE A FULL-TIME CASE MANAGER HERE. 20:57.123 --> 20:59.423 HERE. THEY COME TO OUR CASE MANAGER 20:59.425 --> 21:01.392 THEY COME TO OUR CASE MANAGER AND WORK IN THE JOBS CORPS AREA 21:01.394 --> 21:03.661 AND WORK IN THE JOBS CORPS AREA SO THAT THEY CAN UPDATE THEIR 21:03.663 --> 21:05.196 SO THAT THEY CAN UPDATE THEIR RESUME, STRENGTHEN THEIR RESUME, 21:05.198 --> 21:07.531 RESUME, STRENGTHEN THEIR RESUME, FIND A BETTER-PAYING JOB. 21:07.533 --> 21:08.833 FIND A BETTER-PAYING JOB. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT 21:08.835 --> 21:10.268 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ESSENCE 21:10.270 --> 21:10.935 OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ESSENCE THE WORKING POOR. 21:10.937 --> 21:12.003 THE WORKING POOR. THEY HAVE A JOB. 21:12.005 --> 21:13.204 THEY HAVE A JOB. BUT THAT JOB DOESN'T PAY ENOUGH 21:13.206 --> 21:15.406 BUT THAT JOB DOESN'T PAY ENOUGH FOR THEM TO REALLY SURVIVE. 21:15.408 --> 21:18.142 FOR THEM TO REALLY SURVIVE. >> THE PROGRAM YOU DIRECT, THE 21:18.144 --> 21:20.478 >> THE PROGRAM YOU DIRECT, THE COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM, IS AN 21:20.480 --> 21:22.280 COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM, IS AN OUTGROWTH OF THE ORIGINAL WAR ON 21:22.282 --> 21:24.115 OUTGROWTH OF THE ORIGINAL WAR ON POVERTY FROM ALMOST 50 YEARS 21:24.117 --> 21:24.382 POVERTY FROM ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO. 21:24.384 --> 21:25.016 AGO. >> CORRECT. 21:25.018 --> 21:26.550 >> CORRECT. >> PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON. 21:26.552 --> 21:27.184 >> PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON. >> CORRECT. 21:27.186 --> 21:30.821 >> CORRECT. >> DO WE NEED A NEW WAR ON 21:30.823 --> 21:31.155 >> DO WE NEED A NEW WAR ON POVERTY? 21:31.157 --> 21:32.256 POVERTY? HAVE WE LOST THE WAR? 21:32.258 --> 21:33.958 HAVE WE LOST THE WAR? HAVE WE WON THE WAR? 21:33.960 --> 21:37.194 HAVE WE WON THE WAR? ARE WE STILL BATTLING? 21:37.196 --> 21:38.329 ARE WE STILL BATTLING? >> NOW YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY 21:38.331 --> 21:41.198 >> NOW YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY MAKE ME THINK. 21:41.200 --> 21:43.434 MAKE ME THINK. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A NEW 21:43.436 --> 21:45.036 I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A NEW WAR ON POVERTY, BUT WE PROBABLY 21:45.038 --> 21:49.440 WAR ON POVERTY, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN TAKE 21:49.442 --> 21:51.642 NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN TAKE A NOBLE THOUGHT THAT WAS 50 21:51.644 --> 21:53.844 A NOBLE THOUGHT THAT WAS 50 YEARS OLD AND MAKE IT VIABLE FOR 21:53.846 --> 21:56.781 YEARS OLD AND MAKE IT VIABLE FOR THE 21st CENTURY BECAUSE SOME OF 21:56.783 --> 21:58.516 THE 21st CENTURY BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT APPLY NOW, THEY 21:58.518 --> 21:59.950 THE THINGS THAT APPLY NOW, THEY WEREN'T AROUND 50 YEARS AGO. 21:59.952 --> 22:05.389 WEREN'T AROUND 50 YEARS AGO. HERE IN TEMPE, 35% OF THOSE THAT 22:05.391 --> 22:07.391 HERE IN TEMPE, 35% OF THOSE THAT ARE LIVING IN POVERTY ARE FEMALE 22:07.393 --> 22:08.459 ARE LIVING IN POVERTY ARE FEMALE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS. 22:08.461 --> 22:09.660 HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS. NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 22:09.662 --> 22:13.064 NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATISTIC FOR THAT WAS 50 YEARS 22:13.066 --> 22:13.331 STATISTIC FOR THAT WAS 50 YEARS AGO. 22:13.333 --> 22:16.233 AGO. BUT I CAN GUARANTEE IT WASN'T 22:16.235 --> 22:17.835 BUT I CAN GUARANTEE IT WASN'T 35%. 22:17.837 --> 22:20.204 35%. AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS 22:20.206 --> 22:20.771 AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT. 22:20.773 --> 22:22.907 LIKE THAT. >> 19% OF ARIZONANS LIVE BELOW 22:22.909 --> 22:24.275 >> 19% OF ARIZONANS LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. 22:24.277 --> 22:25.609 THE POVERTY LINE. A FIGURE MADE WORSE BY WHAT'S 22:25.611 --> 22:27.878 A FIGURE MADE WORSE BY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE PHOENIX AND 22:27.880 --> 22:29.046 HAPPENING IN THE PHOENIX AND TUCSON SUBURBS. 22:29.048 --> 22:30.214 TUCSON SUBURBS. IT SHOWS IN STATISTICS TRACKED 22:30.216 --> 22:32.249 IT SHOWS IN STATISTICS TRACKED BY ARIZONA INDICATORS A 22:32.251 --> 22:34.151 BY ARIZONA INDICATORS A CENTRALIZED DATA RESOURCE 22:34.153 --> 22:35.553 CENTRALIZED DATA RESOURCE OVERSEEN BY THE MORRISON 22:35.555 --> 22:37.521 OVERSEEN BY THE MORRISON INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC POLICY IN 22:37.523 --> 22:37.988 INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC POLICY IN PHOENIX. 22:37.990 --> 22:39.623 PHOENIX. HERE'S ANDREA WHITSETT, MANAGER 22:39.625 --> 22:42.493 HERE'S ANDREA WHITSETT, MANAGER OF ARIZONA INDICATORS. 22:42.495 --> 22:46.364 OF ARIZONA INDICATORS. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN THE 22:46.366 --> 22:49.400 WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN THE INDICATORS THAT SET TRENDS FOR 22:49.402 --> 22:50.501 INDICATORS THAT SET TRENDS FOR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH POVERTY IN 22:50.503 --> 22:50.935 WHAT'S GOING ON WITH POVERTY IN   22:50.937 --> 22:51.268   ARIZONA? 22:51.270 --> 22:52.403 ARIZONA? >> WELL, THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY 22:52.405 --> 22:53.204 >> WELL, THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY BLEAK RIGHT NOW. 22:53.206 --> 22:54.305 BLEAK RIGHT NOW. ARIZONA HAS TIED FOR THE SIXTH 22:54.307 --> 22:55.373 ARIZONA HAS TIED FOR THE SIXTH HIGHEST POVERTY RATE IN THE 22:55.375 --> 22:57.007 HIGHEST POVERTY RATE IN THE NATION, ALONG WITH ALABAMA. 22:57.009 --> 22:58.542 NATION, ALONG WITH ALABAMA. SO OBVIOUSLY NOT A POSITION THAT 22:58.544 --> 23:00.344 SO OBVIOUSLY NOT A POSITION THAT WE WANT TO BE IN. 23:00.346 --> 23:04.382 WE WANT TO BE IN. WE'RE AT ABOUT 19% FOR AN 23:04.384 --> 23:06.517 WE'RE AT ABOUT 19% FOR AN OVERALL POFRVERTY RATE. 23:06.519 --> 23:08.853 OVERALL POFRVERTY RATE. AND THAT'S UP FROM JUST ABOUT 23:08.855 --> 23:09.920 AND THAT'S UP FROM JUST ABOUT 13% A DECADE AGO. 23:09.922 --> 23:11.055 13% A DECADE AGO. >> THAT'S DRIVEN LARGELY BY 23:11.057 --> 23:11.956 >> THAT'S DRIVEN LARGELY BY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMY 23:11.958 --> 23:13.157 WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 23:13.159 --> 23:14.291 OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU SEEING 23:14.293 --> 23:16.026 WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU SEEING IN THAT REGARD? 23:16.028 --> 23:19.263 IN THAT REGARD? >> WELL, I THINK ONE BIG IMPACT 23:19.265 --> 23:20.398 >> WELL, I THINK ONE BIG IMPACT HAS BEEN ON THE LIVES OF 23:20.400 --> 23:20.998 HAS BEEN ON THE LIVES OF CHILDREN. 23:21.000 --> 23:22.400 CHILDREN. WE HAVE ONE IN FOUR ARIZONA 23:22.402 --> 23:23.501 WE HAVE ONE IN FOUR ARIZONA CHILDREN LIVING IN POVERTY. 23:23.503 --> 23:24.668 CHILDREN LIVING IN POVERTY. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF 23:24.670 --> 23:26.404 AND THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPLICATIONS AND CONSEQUENCES OF 23:26.406 --> 23:27.772 IMPLICATIONS AND CONSEQUENCES OF THAT NUMBER. 23:27.774 --> 23:29.039 THAT NUMBER. FOR INSTANCE, FOOD INSECURITY. 23:29.041 --> 23:31.442 FOR INSTANCE, FOOD INSECURITY. WE HAVE NEARLY HALF A MILLION 23:31.444 --> 23:32.810 WE HAVE NEARLY HALF A MILLION ARIZONA CHILDREN WHO ARE FOOD 23:32.812 --> 23:34.779 ARIZONA CHILDREN WHO ARE FOOD INSECURE, MEANING THEY DON'T 23:34.781 --> 23:36.180 INSECURE, MEANING THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR NEXT MEAL IS 23:36.182 --> 23:36.647 KNOW WHERE THEIR NEXT MEAL IS COMING FROM. 23:36.649 --> 23:39.383 COMING FROM. >> AND ARE YOU SEEING THIS 23:39.385 --> 23:40.584 >> AND ARE YOU SEEING THIS SPREAD ACROSS THE STATE? 23:40.586 --> 23:42.520 SPREAD ACROSS THE STATE? IS IT MORE URBANIZED? 23:42.522 --> 23:44.555 IS IT MORE URBANIZED? MORE IN RURAL AREAS? 23:44.557 --> 23:45.156 MORE IN RURAL AREAS? SUBURBAN AREAS? 23:45.158 --> 23:46.824 SUBURBAN AREAS? >> WELL, RURAL POVERTY RATES DO 23:46.826 --> 23:48.259 >> WELL, RURAL POVERTY RATES DO TEND TO BE HIGHER. 23:48.261 --> 23:49.927 TEND TO BE HIGHER. FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT 23:49.929 --> 23:51.529 FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT NAVAJO AND APACHE COUNTY, THEIR 23:51.531 --> 23:53.230 NAVAJO AND APACHE COUNTY, THEIR POVERTY RATES ARE UPWARD OF 40%. 23:53.232 --> 23:55.466 POVERTY RATES ARE UPWARD OF 40%. AND THEN SOME INTERESTING TRENDS 23:55.468 --> 23:56.500 AND THEN SOME INTERESTING TRENDS WE'VE BEEN OBSERVING ARE 23:56.502 --> 23:58.536 WE'VE BEEN OBSERVING ARE ACTUALLY WITH DIFFERENCES IN 23:58.538 --> 24:00.037 ACTUALLY WITH DIFFERENCES IN SUBURBAN VERSUS URBAN POVERTY. 24:00.039 --> 24:02.273 SUBURBAN VERSUS URBAN POVERTY. SO THERE WAS A RECENT BROOKINGS 24:02.275 --> 24:03.641 SO THERE WAS A RECENT BROOKINGS INSTITUTION REPORT THAT LOOKS AT 24:03.643 --> 24:06.277 INSTITUTION REPORT THAT LOOKS AT THIS CHANGE, AND THEY SHOW THAT 24:06.279 --> 24:07.344 THIS CHANGE, AND THEY SHOW THAT THERE ARE MUCH FASTER GROWTH 24:07.346 --> 24:08.779 THERE ARE MUCH FASTER GROWTH RATES IN SUBURBAN POVERTY THAN 24:08.781 --> 24:09.780 RATES IN SUBURBAN POVERTY THAN IN URBAN POVERTY. 24:09.782 --> 24:11.382 IN URBAN POVERTY. >> AND WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THAT? 24:11.384 --> 24:13.818 >> AND WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THAT? >> I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF 24:13.820 --> 24:14.151 >> I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS. 24:14.153 --> 24:15.753 FACTORS. THE FIRST AND MOST OBVIOUS ONE 24:15.755 --> 24:17.254 THE FIRST AND MOST OBVIOUS ONE BEING POPULATION GROWTH. 24:17.256 --> 24:18.556 BEING POPULATION GROWTH. SO FOR INSTANCE, POPULATION 24:18.558 --> 24:20.157 SO FOR INSTANCE, POPULATION GROWTH FOR METROPOLITAN PHOENIX. 24:20.159 --> 24:23.561 GROWTH FOR METROPOLITAN PHOENIX. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OVER THE 24:23.563 --> 24:25.696 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OVER THE PAST DECADE, 9% CHANGE. 24:25.698 --> 24:27.832 PAST DECADE, 9% CHANGE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUBURBAN 24:27.834 --> 24:28.666 IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUBURBAN AREAS, 59% CHANGE. 24:28.668 --> 24:29.800 AREAS, 59% CHANGE. SO THAT'S VERY DRAMATIC. 24:29.802 --> 24:31.368 SO THAT'S VERY DRAMATIC. >> THE ECONOMY AGAIN IS THE 24:31.370 --> 24:32.403 >> THE ECONOMY AGAIN IS THE DRIVER HERE. 24:32.405 --> 24:34.238 DRIVER HERE. BUT WHAT OTHER FACTORS ARE WE 24:34.240 --> 24:36.273 BUT WHAT OTHER FACTORS ARE WE SEEING, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO 24:36.275 --> 24:37.107 SEEING, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO THE HOUSING BUBBLE THAT WE SAW? 24:37.109 --> 24:39.977 THE HOUSING BUBBLE THAT WE SAW? >> WELL, FOR SUBURBAN HOMEOWNERS 24:39.979 --> 24:41.245 >> WELL, FOR SUBURBAN HOMEOWNERS WHO WENT INTO FORECLOSURE, THAT 24:41.247 --> 24:42.012 WHO WENT INTO FORECLOSURE, THAT WAS A MAJOR CRISIS. 24:42.014 --> 24:43.247 WAS A MAJOR CRISIS. BUT COMING BACK TO THE ECONOMY, 24:43.249 --> 24:45.583 BUT COMING BACK TO THE ECONOMY, I DO THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH 24:45.585 --> 24:47.351 I DO THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH OUR LOW-WAGE JOBS. 24:47.353 --> 24:49.687 OUR LOW-WAGE JOBS. NEARLY A QUARTER OF ARIZONA JOBS 24:49.689 --> 24:51.188 NEARLY A QUARTER OF ARIZONA JOBS ARE LOW-WAGE, AND WE KNOW A LOT 24:51.190 --> 24:52.990 ARE LOW-WAGE, AND WE KNOW A LOT OF THOSE ARE IN AREAS LIKE 24:52.992 --> 24:54.458 OF THOSE ARE IN AREAS LIKE RETAIL THAT TEND TO BE 24:54.460 --> 24:56.160 RETAIL THAT TEND TO BE CONCENTRATED IN SUBURBAN AREAS. 24:56.162 --> 24:57.995 CONCENTRATED IN SUBURBAN AREAS. >> ARE YOU SEEING ANY HINTS IN 24:57.997 --> 25:01.565 >> ARE YOU SEEING ANY HINTS IN THE NUMBERS YOU LOOK AT AS TO 25:01.567 --> 25:03.601 THE NUMBERS YOU LOOK AT AS TO HOW THIS CAN BE AMELIORATED, HOW 25:03.603 --> 25:05.336 HOW THIS CAN BE AMELIORATED, HOW WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF 25:05.338 --> 25:06.270 WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF DEALING WITH THE ISSUES OF 25:06.272 --> 25:06.837 DEALING WITH THE ISSUES OF POVERTY IN THE STATE? 25:06.839 --> 25:08.739 POVERTY IN THE STATE? >> WELL, I THINK THE WAY WE 25:08.741 --> 25:09.473 >> WELL, I THINK THE WAY WE RESPOND IS IMPORTANT. 25:09.475 --> 25:11.075 RESPOND IS IMPORTANT. FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOKED AT A 25:11.077 --> 25:11.709 FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOKED AT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS 25:11.711 --> 25:13.010 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS HISTORICALLY LOW INCOME, YOU 25:13.012 --> 25:15.779 HISTORICALLY LOW INCOME, YOU WOULD IMAGINE THAT OVER TIME 25:15.781 --> 25:17.248 WOULD IMAGINE THAT OVER TIME CERTAIN SERVICES HAVE CROPPED 25:17.250 --> 25:19.116 CERTAIN SERVICES HAVE CROPPED UP, FOR INSTANCE, FOOD BANKS OR 25:19.118 --> 25:21.352 UP, FOR INSTANCE, FOOD BANKS OR READY ACCESS TO A FREE MEDICAL 25:21.354 --> 25:22.419 READY ACCESS TO A FREE MEDICAL CLINIC, FOR EXAMPLE. 25:22.421 --> 25:23.754 CLINIC, FOR EXAMPLE. AND IN SUBURBAN POVERTY, 25:23.756 --> 25:24.855 AND IN SUBURBAN POVERTY, SUBURBAN POVERTY TENDS TO BE A 25:24.857 --> 25:26.390 SUBURBAN POVERTY TENDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFUSE. 25:26.392 --> 25:27.758 LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFUSE. SO IT'S HARDER TO TARGET THE 25:27.760 --> 25:28.259 SO IT'S HARDER TO TARGET THE NEED. 25:28.261 --> 25:30.127 NEED. AND IT TAKES TIME FOR THAT 25:30.129 --> 25:33.797 AND IT TAKES TIME FOR THAT SOCIAL SAFETY NET TO SHIFT. 25:33.799 --> 25:35.332 SOCIAL SAFETY NET TO SHIFT. >> IS THERE ANYTHING MORE THAT 25:35.334 --> 25:36.267 >> IS THERE ANYTHING MORE THAT GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE DOING IN 25:36.269 --> 25:38.068 GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE DOING IN THE WAY OF PUBLIC POLICY, IN THE 25:38.070 --> 25:40.704 THE WAY OF PUBLIC POLICY, IN THE WAY OF FUNDING, IN THE WAY OF 25:40.706 --> 25:42.306 WAY OF FUNDING, IN THE WAY OF CHANGING ITS APPROACH TO HELPING 25:42.308 --> 25:43.407 CHANGING ITS APPROACH TO HELPING PEOPLE WITH A SAFETY NET? 25:43.409 --> 25:45.242 PEOPLE WITH A SAFETY NET? >> WELL, ONE TYPE OF GOVERNMENT 25:45.244 --> 25:48.512 >> WELL, ONE TYPE OF GOVERNMENT RESPONSE COULD ACTUALLY BE IN 25:48.514 --> 25:49.246 RESPONSE COULD ACTUALLY BE IN SOMETHING LIKE TRANSPORTATION 25:49.248 --> 25:49.713 SOMETHING LIKE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 25:49.715 --> 25:50.981 INFRASTRUCTURE. WE KNOW THAT LOW-INCOME FAMILIES 25:50.983 --> 25:53.250 WE KNOW THAT LOW-INCOME FAMILIES TEND TO RELY MORE HEAVILY ON 25:53.252 --> 25:55.319 TEND TO RELY MORE HEAVILY ON PUBLIC TRANSIT, FOR INSTANCE, 25:55.321 --> 25:56.720 PUBLIC TRANSIT, FOR INSTANCE, AND IT TAKES TIME FOR BUS ROUTES 25:56.722 --> 25:58.389 AND IT TAKES TIME FOR BUS ROUTES OR FOR LIGHT RAIL EXTENSION TO 25:58.391 --> 26:01.992 OR FOR LIGHT RAIL EXTENSION TO ADAPT AND TO MEET THE CHANGES IN 26:01.994 --> 26:02.326 ADAPT AND TO MEET THE CHANGES IN DEMAND. 26:02.328 --> 26:03.427 DEMAND. >> THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT 26:03.429 --> 26:05.963 >> THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE WIDENING INCOME GAP IN THE 26:05.965 --> 26:06.297 THE WIDENING INCOME GAP IN THE COUNTRY. 26:06.299 --> 26:07.131 COUNTRY. THE RICH GETTING RICHER. 26:07.133 --> 26:10.935 THE RICH GETTING RICHER. THE POOR GETTING POORER. 26:10.937 --> 26:11.969 THE POOR GETTING POORER. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS MANIFESTED IN 26:11.971 --> 26:14.138 OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS MANIFESTED IN WHAT WE SEE IN THE POVERTY 26:14.140 --> 26:15.673 WHAT WE SEE IN THE POVERTY NUMBERS. 26:15.675 --> 26:17.241 NUMBERS. BUT DO YOU SEE LONG-TERM TRENDS 26:17.243 --> 26:19.209 BUT DO YOU SEE LONG-TERM TRENDS IN THAT THAT MIGHT LEAD US TO 26:19.211 --> 26:20.611 IN THAT THAT MIGHT LEAD US TO CONCLUDE SOMETHING ELSE WILL 26:20.613 --> 26:22.513 CONCLUDE SOMETHING ELSE WILL HAPPEN HERE THAT PEOPLE CAN 26:22.515 --> 26:23.914 HAPPEN HERE THAT PEOPLE CAN REGAIN THEIR ECONOMIC FOOTING? 26:23.916 --> 26:25.382 REGAIN THEIR ECONOMIC FOOTING? >> WELL, I'D LIKE TO THINK 26:25.384 --> 26:26.917 >> WELL, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT'S THE CASE, BUT ONE NUMBER 26:26.919 --> 26:28.485 THAT'S THE CASE, BUT ONE NUMBER THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME IS THE 26:28.487 --> 26:30.788 THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME IS THE NUMBER THAT COMES OUT OF THE 26:30.790 --> 26:32.990 NUMBER THAT COMES OUT OF THE CFED ASSETS AND OPPORTUNITIES 26:32.992 --> 26:34.425 CFED ASSETS AND OPPORTUNITIES SCORECARD AND IT'S LOOKING AT A 26:34.427 --> 26:36.026 SCORECARD AND IT'S LOOKING AT A MEASURE CALLED LIQUID ASSET 26:36.028 --> 26:36.360 MEASURE CALLED LIQUID ASSET POVERTY. 26:36.362 --> 26:37.561 POVERTY. WHICH SOUNDS CONFUSING. 26:37.563 --> 26:38.629 WHICH SOUNDS CONFUSING. BUT REALLY THAT'S JUST GETTING 26:38.631 --> 26:39.863 BUT REALLY THAT'S JUST GETTING AT IF A FAMILY HAS ENOUGH 26:39.865 --> 26:40.831 AT IF A FAMILY HAS ENOUGH SAVINGS IN THE BANK TO COVER 26:40.833 --> 26:43.500 SAVINGS IN THE BANK TO COVER THREE MONTHS OF THEIR BASIC 26:43.502 --> 26:43.968 THREE MONTHS OF THEIR BASIC LIVING EXPENSES. 26:43.970 --> 26:45.569 LIVING EXPENSES. SO IN THE EVENT OF A MEDICAL 26:45.571 --> 26:46.503 SO IN THE EVENT OF A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, THE EVENT OF JOB 26:46.505 --> 26:46.804 EMERGENCY, THE EVENT OF JOB LOSS. 26:46.806 --> 26:48.505 LOSS. AND I THINK THIS NUMBER PAINTS A 26:48.507 --> 26:50.240 AND I THINK THIS NUMBER PAINTS A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF THE 26:50.242 --> 26:51.442 MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF THE FINANCIAL VULNERABILITY OF 26:51.444 --> 26:54.378 FINANCIAL VULNERABILITY OF ARIZONA FAMILIES. 26:54.380 --> 26:55.379 ARIZONA FAMILIES. AND THAT REPORT FOUND THAT 45% 26:55.381 --> 26:57.481 AND THAT REPORT FOUND THAT 45% OF ARIZONANS LACK THREE MONTHS' 26:57.483 --> 26:58.816 OF ARIZONANS LACK THREE MONTHS' SAVINGS TO COVER THEIR BASIC 26:58.818 --> 26:59.583 SAVINGS TO COVER THEIR BASIC LIVING EXPENSES. 26:59.585 --> 27:01.218 LIVING EXPENSES. SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE 27:01.220 --> 27:03.621 SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE ONE CRISIS AWAY FROM FALLING 27:03.623 --> 27:04.888 ONE CRISIS AWAY FROM FALLING INTO POVERTY. 27:04.890 --> 27:06.790 INTO POVERTY. >> SO THAT'S NEARLY HALF THE 27:06.792 --> 27:07.191 >> SO THAT'S NEARLY HALF THE POPULATION. 27:07.193 --> 27:08.092 POPULATION. >> NEARLY HALF. 27:08.094 --> 27:09.693 >> NEARLY HALF. AND THEY PAINT THE PICTURE WITH 27:09.695 --> 27:10.961 AND THEY PAINT THE PICTURE WITH SOME OTHER NUMBERS. 27:10.963 --> 27:12.630 SOME OTHER NUMBERS. FOR INSTANCE, MORE THAN HALF OF 27:12.632 --> 27:14.598 FOR INSTANCE, MORE THAN HALF OF ARIZONA RENTERS ARE CONSIDERED 27:14.600 --> 27:15.866 ARIZONA RENTERS ARE CONSIDERED COST BURDENED, WHICH WOULD MEAN 27:15.868 --> 27:17.968 COST BURDENED, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT 30% OR MORE OF THEIR INCOME 27:17.970 --> 27:19.637 THAT 30% OR MORE OF THEIR INCOME IS GOING STRAIGHT TO RENT AND 27:19.639 --> 27:20.004 IS GOING STRAIGHT TO RENT AND UTILITIES. 27:20.006 --> 27:22.306 UTILITIES. SO OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A LARGE 27:22.308 --> 27:24.508 SO OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A LARGE SHARE OF A FAMILY'S BUDGET. 27:24.510 --> 27:25.342 SHARE OF A FAMILY'S BUDGET. IF YOU HAVE CHILD CARE EXPENSES 27:25.344 --> 27:27.277 IF YOU HAVE CHILD CARE EXPENSES OR OTHER THINGS, IT CAN REALLY 27:27.279 --> 27:27.945 OR OTHER THINGS, IT CAN REALLY POSE A CHALLENGE. 27:27.947 --> 27:30.014 POSE A CHALLENGE. >> THIS WEEK'S COMPLETE ARIZONA 27:30.016 --> 27:31.715 >> THIS WEEK'S COMPLETE ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA SERIES ON POVERTY 27:31.717 --> 27:35.352 PUBLIC MEDIA SERIES ON POVERTY IS ON OUR WEBSITE, AZPM.ORG, 27:35.354 --> 27:37.121 IS ON OUR WEBSITE, AZPM.ORG, ALONG WITH LINKS TO RESOURCES TO 27:37.123 --> 27:37.955 ALONG WITH LINKS TO RESOURCES TO FIND HELP. 27:37.957 --> 27:39.556 FIND HELP. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY 27:39.558 --> 27:41.659 THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY JULY 19th, 2013. 27:41.661 --> 27:42.393 JULY 19th, 2013. FOR "ARIZONA WEEK" I'M MICHAEL 27:42.395 --> 27:45.396 FOR "ARIZONA WEEK" I'M MICHAEL CHIHAK. 27:45.398 --> 27:46.296 CHIHAK. >> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" 27:46.298 --> 27:47.798 >> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A 27:47.800 --> 27:49.466 IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL 27:49.468 --> 27:51.201 GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF 27:51.203 --> 27:51.835 FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. 27:51.837 --> 27:52.536 ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED 27:52.538 --> 27:54.438 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. 27:54.506 --> 27:58.506 -- Captions by VITAC -- www.vitac.com