>>> IN OUR DIFFICULT ECONOMIC
TIMES THE FACES OF HARDSHIP

 

TIMES THE FACES OF HARDSHIP
DON'T ALWAYS MATCH EXPECTATIONS

 

DON'T ALWAYS MATCH EXPECTATIONS
OR APPEAR WHERE WE THINK THEY

 

OR APPEAR WHERE WE THINK THEY
SHOULD.

 

SHOULD.
>> GENTLEMAN IN HIS LATE 50s

 

>> GENTLEMAN IN HIS LATE 50s
LOOKING FOR FULL EMPLOYMENT IS

 

LOOKING FOR FULL EMPLOYMENT IS
NOT QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE I THINK

 

NOT QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE I THINK
IN MANY CASES.

 

IN MANY CASES.
I WAS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

 

I WAS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
I WAS ON ACCESS.

 

I WAS ON ACCESS.
YOU KNOW, AND -- AND FOOD

 

YOU KNOW, AND -- AND FOOD
STAMPS.

 

STAMPS.
AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW,

 

AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW,
EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT.

 

EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT.
THAT'S A REALITY.

 

THAT'S A REALITY.
>> POVERTY COMES TO THE

 

>> POVERTY COMES TO THE
MIDDLE-CLASS SUBURBS OF PHOENIX

 

MIDDLE-CLASS SUBURBS OF PHOENIX
AND TUCSON.

 

AND TUCSON.
IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK."

 

IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK."
>> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK"

 

>> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK"
IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A

 

IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A
GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL

 

GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL
FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF

 

FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF
ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.

 

ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
SUPPORT.

 

SUPPORT.
ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR,

 

ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR,
MICHAEL CHIHAK.

 

MICHAEL CHIHAK.
>> WE CONCLUDE ARIZONA PUBLIC

 

>> WE CONCLUDE ARIZONA PUBLIC
MEDIA'S WEEK-LONG SERIES ON

 

MEDIA'S WEEK-LONG SERIES ON
POVERTY BY FOCUSING ON ITS

 

POVERTY BY FOCUSING ON ITS
INCREASE IN SUBURBAN PHOENIX AND

 

INCREASE IN SUBURBAN PHOENIX AND
TUCSON, WHERE LOCATION ALONE

 

TUCSON, WHERE LOCATION ALONE
OUGHT TO INFER A LIFESTYLE

 

OUGHT TO INFER A LIFESTYLE
WITHOUT HARDSHIP.

 

WITHOUT HARDSHIP.
WE'LL START WITH ONE MAN'S

 

WE'LL START WITH ONE MAN'S
STORY.

 

STORY.
>> MY NAME IS JIM CORCORAN.

 

>> MY NAME IS JIM CORCORAN.
I LIVE HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA.

 

I LIVE HERE IN TUCSON, ARIZONA.
I'M EMPLOYED BY THE NATURAL

 

I'M EMPLOYED BY THE NATURAL
RESOURCES AND PARKS AND

 

RESOURCES AND PARKS AND
RECREATION DEPARTMENT OF PIMA

 

RECREATION DEPARTMENT OF PIMA
COUNTY.

 

COUNTY.
I AM A RECREATION LEADER AT THE

 

I AM A RECREATION LEADER AT THE
PICTURE ROCKS COMMUNITY CENTER

 

PICTURE ROCKS COMMUNITY CENTER
IN PICTURE ROCKS, ARIZONA.

 

IN PICTURE ROCKS, ARIZONA.
BASICALLY, MY BACKGROUND IS IN

 

BASICALLY, MY BACKGROUND IS IN
EXERCISE AND SPORTS SCIENCES,

 

EXERCISE AND SPORTS SCIENCES,
HIGHER ED ADMINISTRATION,

 

HIGHER ED ADMINISTRATION,
ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS, COACHES

 

ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS, COACHES
EDUCATION, DRUGS AND SPORTS,

 

EDUCATION, DRUGS AND SPORTS,
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

 

THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND DID THAT FOR A NUMBER OF

 

AND DID THAT FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS AND COACHED AND GOT

 

YEARS AND COACHED AND GOT
INVOLVED HEAVILY WITH YOUTH

 

INVOLVED HEAVILY WITH YOUTH
SPORTS AND COACHING EDUCATION,

 

SPORTS AND COACHING EDUCATION,
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

 

THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND THEN I KIND OF SWITCHED

 

AND THEN I KIND OF SWITCHED
GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND WENT OFF

 

GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND WENT OFF
INTO SALES AND MARKETING AND SO

 

INTO SALES AND MARKETING AND SO
FORTH.

 

FORTH.
BUT THINGS WERE KIND OF NOT

 

BUT THINGS WERE KIND OF NOT
MOVING SO WELL IN CHICAGO FOR

 

MOVING SO WELL IN CHICAGO FOR
ME.

 

ME.
SO I CAME OUT TO TUCSON IN

 

SO I CAME OUT TO TUCSON IN
FEBRUARY OF 2010.

 

FEBRUARY OF 2010.
AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS -- THE

 

AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS -- THE
MARKET WAS PRETTY ROUGH.

 

MARKET WAS PRETTY ROUGH.
IT WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT AT THAT

 

IT WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT AT THAT
POINT EVEN.

 

POINT EVEN.
BUT I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO

 

BUT I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO
EARN A POSITION AT THE NORTHWEST

 

EARN A POSITION AT THE NORTHWEST
YMCA HERE IN TUCSON IN THEIR

 

YMCA HERE IN TUCSON IN THEIR
MEMBERSHIP AND MARKETING

 

MEMBERSHIP AND MARKETING
DEPARTMENT AND WORKED THERE FOR

 

DEPARTMENT AND WORKED THERE FOR
A WHILE, WHICH WAS AN AWESOME

 

A WHILE, WHICH WAS AN AWESOME
EXPERIENCE.

 

EXPERIENCE.
I'VE WORKED WITH YMCAs IN

 

I'VE WORKED WITH YMCAs IN
CHICAGO AND PHILADELPHIA IN THE

 

CHICAGO AND PHILADELPHIA IN THE
PAST AS WELL.

 

PAST AS WELL.
AS PART OF MY JOURNEY IN

 

AS PART OF MY JOURNEY IN
WELLNESS AND SPORTS, AND SO

 

WELLNESS AND SPORTS, AND SO
FORTH.

 

FORTH.
SO THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS GREAT.

 

SO THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS GREAT.
WORKED WITH THEM FOR A WHILE.

 

WORKED WITH THEM FOR A WHILE.
AND THEN THINGS JUST KIND OF

 

AND THEN THINGS JUST KIND OF
CHANGED, AND I ENDED UP BEING

 

CHANGED, AND I ENDED UP BEING
UNEMPLOYED.

 

UNEMPLOYED.
JUST GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT

 

JUST GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT
WAS GOING ON IN THE MARKET AT

 

WAS GOING ON IN THE MARKET AT
THAT TIME.

 

THAT TIME.
AND YMCA'S NEEDS AND MY NEEDS

 

AND YMCA'S NEEDS AND MY NEEDS
AND SO FORTH.

 

AND SO FORTH.
AND THAT JUST WAS A DIFFICULT

 

AND THAT JUST WAS A DIFFICULT
TIME TO BE UNEMPLOYED AGAIN.

 

TIME TO BE UNEMPLOYED AGAIN.
THE MARKET HAD NOT IMPROVED.

 

THE MARKET HAD NOT IMPROVED.
SO I KEPT PURSUING, YOU KNOW,

 

SO I KEPT PURSUING, YOU KNOW,
EMPLOYMENT.

 

EMPLOYMENT.
CAME HERE TO ICS.

 

CAME HERE TO ICS.
HAD HEARD ABOUT THEM FROM A

 

HAD HEARD ABOUT THEM FROM A
FRIEND IN TUCSON.

 

FRIEND IN TUCSON.
AND WALKED IN.

 

AND WALKED IN.
MATT TANDELA, TERRI, THE STAFF

 

MATT TANDELA, TERRI, THE STAFF
WAS IMMEDIATELY SUPPORTIVE.

 

WAS IMMEDIATELY SUPPORTIVE.
AND JUST CAME IN, REBUILT MY

 

AND JUST CAME IN, REBUILT MY
RESUMES, HAD DIFFERENT TYPES OF

 

RESUMES, HAD DIFFERENT TYPES OF
RESUMES FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS,

 

RESUMES FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS,
WILLING TO DO ANYTHING THAT WAS,

 

WILLING TO DO ANYTHING THAT WAS,
YOU KNOW, LEGAL, HEALTHY, AND

 

YOU KNOW, LEGAL, HEALTHY, AND
MORALLY ACCEPTABLE.

 

MORALLY ACCEPTABLE.
AND IT JUST WAS NOT COMING

 

AND IT JUST WAS NOT COMING
TOGETHER.

 

TOGETHER.
I DID ODD JOBS HERE AND THERE

 

I DID ODD JOBS HERE AND THERE
AND SO FORTH.

 

AND SO FORTH.
BUT THE PEOPLE HERE WERE JUST

 

BUT THE PEOPLE HERE WERE JUST
UNBELIEVABLY SUPPORTIVE AND

 

UNBELIEVABLY SUPPORTIVE AND
HELPED ME, GAVE ME JOB LEADS,

 

HELPED ME, GAVE ME JOB LEADS,
DIFFERENT VOLUNTEERS IN THE

 

DIFFERENT VOLUNTEERS IN THE
RESOURCE CENTER WERE JUST

 

RESOURCE CENTER WERE JUST
PHENOMENAL.

 

PHENOMENAL.
AND JUST KEPT PLUGGING ALONG.

 

AND JUST KEPT PLUGGING ALONG.
AND ACTUALLY HAD APPLIED FOR A

 

AND ACTUALLY HAD APPLIED FOR A
POSITION WITH PIMA COUNTY IN

 

POSITION WITH PIMA COUNTY IN
THEIR RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND

 

THEIR RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND
ACTUALLY HAD QUITE HONESTLY,

 

ACTUALLY HAD QUITE HONESTLY,
MICHAEL, FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT IT

 

MICHAEL, FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT IT
BECAUSE I HAD BEEN AT THE CITY

 

BECAUSE I HAD BEEN AT THE CITY
OF TUCSON, UNIVERSITY, ALL KINDS

 

OF TUCSON, UNIVERSITY, ALL KINDS
OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS.

 

OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
AND RECEIVED A CALL.

 

AND RECEIVED A CALL.
ASKED ME TO COME IN FOR AN

 

ASKED ME TO COME IN FOR AN
INTERVIEW.

 

INTERVIEW.
AND DID THAT AND WAS HIRED,

 

AND DID THAT AND WAS HIRED,
OFFERED THE POSITION THE NEXT

 

OFFERED THE POSITION THE NEXT
DAY.

 

DAY.
IT WAS A COURSE OF PROBABLY

 

IT WAS A COURSE OF PROBABLY
2 1/2 YEARS TO AGAIN BECOME

 

2 1/2 YEARS TO AGAIN BECOME
FULLY GAINFULLY EMPLOYED.

 

FULLY GAINFULLY EMPLOYED.
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE I

 

IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE I
KNOW -- YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHO I

 

KNOW -- YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHO I
AM.

 

AM.
I KNOW WHERE I'VE BEEN AND WHAT

 

I KNOW WHERE I'VE BEEN AND WHAT
I'VE DONE AND WHAT I HAVE TO

 

I'VE DONE AND WHAT I HAVE TO
OFFER.

 

OFFER.
AND WITH THE MARKET BEING

 

AND WITH THE MARKET BEING
EXTREMELY UNCOOPERATIVE, I GUESS

 

EXTREMELY UNCOOPERATIVE, I GUESS
I WOULD SAY, CHALLENGING, AND

 

I WOULD SAY, CHALLENGING, AND
THE FACT THAT I AM, YOU KNOW --

 

THE FACT THAT I AM, YOU KNOW --
I'M NO LONG ER A YOUNG MAN COMIG

 

I'M NO LONG ER A YOUNG MAN COMIG
OUT OF COLLEGE.

 

OUT OF COLLEGE.
I'M A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCED IN

 

I'M A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCED IN
MY LIFE JOURNEYS HERE.

 

MY LIFE JOURNEYS HERE.
AND I BELIEVE I RAN INTO THAT AS

 

AND I BELIEVE I RAN INTO THAT AS
WELL.

 

WELL.
HAVING A HARD TIME WITH BEING,

 

HAVING A HARD TIME WITH BEING,
YOU KNOW, A GENTLEMAN IN HIS

 

YOU KNOW, A GENTLEMAN IN HIS
LATE 50s LOOKING FOR FULL

 

LATE 50s LOOKING FOR FULL
EMPLOYMENT.

 

EMPLOYMENT.
IT'S NOT QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE, I

 

IT'S NOT QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE, I
THINK, IN MANY CASES.

 

THINK, IN MANY CASES.
AND -- BUT TO BE ABLE TO WALK

 

AND -- BUT TO BE ABLE TO WALK
THROUGH THAT PROCESS, TO ASK FOR

 

THROUGH THAT PROCESS, TO ASK FOR
SUPPORT HERE FROM PEOPLE AND

 

SUPPORT HERE FROM PEOPLE AND
FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND

 

FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND
COMMUNITY JUST KEPT PUSHING

 

COMMUNITY JUST KEPT PUSHING
THROUGH TO DO THE NEXT RIGHT

 

THROUGH TO DO THE NEXT RIGHT
THING AND TO NOT GIVE UP, NOT

 

THING AND TO NOT GIVE UP, NOT
LOSE FAITH, KEEP MOVING FORWARD,

 

LOSE FAITH, KEEP MOVING FORWARD,
PUT THE RIGHT ENERGY OUT THERE

 

PUT THE RIGHT ENERGY OUT THERE
AND MAYBE SOMETHING WOULD COME

 

AND MAYBE SOMETHING WOULD COME
TOGETHER.

 

TOGETHER.
BUT YES, IT WAS DIFFICULT.

 

BUT YES, IT WAS DIFFICULT.
AND THE OTHER PIECE, MICHAEL,

 

AND THE OTHER PIECE, MICHAEL,
WAS THAT EVERYTHING IS SO -- I

 

WAS THAT EVERYTHING IS SO -- I
DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY MY AGE

 

DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY MY AGE
OR ANYTHING, EVEN THOUGH I

 

OR ANYTHING, EVEN THOUGH I
ALREADY MENTIONED IT.

 

ALREADY MENTIONED IT.
IT'S -- EVERYTHING'S SO

 

IT'S -- EVERYTHING'S SO
ELECTRONICALLY BASED.

 

ELECTRONICALLY BASED.
TO ACTUALLY GET IN FRONT OF

 

TO ACTUALLY GET IN FRONT OF
SOMEBODY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION,

 

SOMEBODY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION,
WHICH I BELIEVE IS A STRENGTH OF

 

WHICH I BELIEVE IS A STRENGTH OF
MINE, WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO

 

MINE, WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO
CRACK THROUGH THAT ELECTRONIC,

 

CRACK THROUGH THAT ELECTRONIC,
YOU KNOW, SCANNING OF YOUR

 

YOU KNOW, SCANNING OF YOUR
RESUME FOR CERTAIN BUZZWORDS.

 

RESUME FOR CERTAIN BUZZWORDS.
SO THAT WAS AN INTERESTING THING

 

SO THAT WAS AN INTERESTING THING
TO COPE WITH AND TO GET HELP

 

TO COPE WITH AND TO GET HELP
WITH AGAIN ON HOW TO REWRITE AND

 

WITH AGAIN ON HOW TO REWRITE AND
GET THOSE WORDS THAT MIGHT HELP

 

GET THOSE WORDS THAT MIGHT HELP
ME.

 

ME.
ONE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED,

 

ONE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED,
ANOTHER PIECE THAT I'VE LEARNED

 

ANOTHER PIECE THAT I'VE LEARNED
IN MY LIFE IS THAT I DO NEED TO

 

IN MY LIFE IS THAT I DO NEED TO
ACCEPT HELP FROM OTHERS AND NOT

 

ACCEPT HELP FROM OTHERS AND NOT
THINK I'VE GOT TO DO THIS ON MY

 

THINK I'VE GOT TO DO THIS ON MY
OWN.

 

OWN.
EVEN THOUGH I'M CAPABLE OF IT I

 

EVEN THOUGH I'M CAPABLE OF IT I
THINK A TEAM APPROACH AND

 

THINK A TEAM APPROACH AND
ALLOWING OTHERS TO HELP ALLOWS

 

ALLOWING OTHERS TO HELP ALLOWS
FOR THAT ENERGY TO STAY POSITIVE

 

FOR THAT ENERGY TO STAY POSITIVE
AND FOCUS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE

 

AND FOCUS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE
BECAUSE I BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO

 

BECAUSE I BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO
WILL TALK TO YOU ON THE PHONE OR

 

WILL TALK TO YOU ON THE PHONE OR
INTERVIEW YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO

 

INTERVIEW YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO
FEEL YOUR ENERGY.

 

FEEL YOUR ENERGY.
AND IF YOU'RE LIKE OH, MY

 

AND IF YOU'RE LIKE OH, MY
GOODNESS OR IT'S DESPERATION OR

 

GOODNESS OR IT'S DESPERATION OR
IT'S ANGER, FRUSTRATION, THAT

 

IT'S ANGER, FRUSTRATION, THAT
PLAYS INTO IT.

 

PLAYS INTO IT.
SO I THINK STAYING FOCUSED,

 

SO I THINK STAYING FOCUSED,
AGAIN, THROUGH THE HELP OF

 

AGAIN, THROUGH THE HELP OF
OTHERS AND SUPPORT MECHANISMS

 

OTHERS AND SUPPORT MECHANISMS
SUCH AS ICS REALLY HELPED ME TO

 

SUCH AS ICS REALLY HELPED ME TO
KEEP MY HEAD UP AND KEEP -- I'M

 

KEEP MY HEAD UP AND KEEP -- I'M
NOT SAYING I WAS THERE ALL THE

 

NOT SAYING I WAS THERE ALL THE
TIME EVERY DAY.

 

TIME EVERY DAY.
THERE WERE TIMES WHERE I WAS

 

THERE WERE TIMES WHERE I WAS
LIKE OH, MY GOODNESS, WHAT AM I

 

LIKE OH, MY GOODNESS, WHAT AM I
DOING, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN

 

DOING, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
SNEER BUT THEY WERE LESS THAN

 

SNEER BUT THEY WERE LESS THAN
THE POSITIVE DAYS.

 

THE POSITIVE DAYS.
MUCH LESS THAN THE POSITIVE

 

MUCH LESS THAN THE POSITIVE
DAYS.

 

DAYS.
I WAS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

 

I WAS ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
I WAS ON ACCESS, YOU KNOW.

 

I WAS ON ACCESS, YOU KNOW.
AND FOOD STAMPS.

 

AND FOOD STAMPS.
AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW,

 

AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW,
EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT.

 

EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT.
THAT'S THE REALITY.

 

THAT'S THE REALITY.
I'M GRATEFUL THAT I WAS ABLE TO

 

I'M GRATEFUL THAT I WAS ABLE TO
TAP INTO THOSE SERVICES AND USE

 

TAP INTO THOSE SERVICES AND USE
THEM TO HELP ME GET BACK TO

 

THEM TO HELP ME GET BACK TO
WHERE I -- NOT EVEN BACK TO, TO

 

WHERE I -- NOT EVEN BACK TO, TO
GO TO A NEW PLACE IN MY LIFE, A

 

GO TO A NEW PLACE IN MY LIFE, A
NEW EXPERIENCE.

 

NEW EXPERIENCE.
TO BE HUMBLE AND TO ALLOW THAT

 

TO BE HUMBLE AND TO ALLOW THAT
TO HAPPEN.

 

TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S ANOTHER BRANCH OF

 

THAT'S ANOTHER BRANCH OF
ALLOWING OTHERS TO HELP YOU.

 

ALLOWING OTHERS TO HELP YOU.
CERTAINLY NOT ABUSING THOSE

 

CERTAINLY NOT ABUSING THOSE
SYSTEMS AT ALL.

 

SYSTEMS AT ALL.
AND HOWEVER, USING THEM TO THE

 

AND HOWEVER, USING THEM TO THE
FULLEST AS LONG AS I NEEDED TO.

 

FULLEST AS LONG AS I NEEDED TO.
AND I DID DO THAT.

 

AND I DID DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, I HAD FAMILY AND

 

AND AGAIN, I HAD FAMILY AND
FRIENDS WHO HELPED ME SAY JIM,

 

FRIENDS WHO HELPED ME SAY JIM,
DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, WE KNOW

 

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, WE KNOW
WHO YOU ARE, WE SUPPORT YOU TO

 

WHO YOU ARE, WE SUPPORT YOU TO
STAY FOCUSED.

 

STAY FOCUSED.
BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING

 

BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING
TO HAPPEN.

 

TO HAPPEN.
AND IT DID.

 

AND IT DID.
NOW ALL THOSE BENEFITS ARE -- I

 

NOW ALL THOSE BENEFITS ARE -- I
AM A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT,

 

AM A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT,
SELF-SUSTAINING MAN AGAIN.

 

SELF-SUSTAINING MAN AGAIN.
WHICH IS A GIFT.

 

WHICH IS A GIFT.
AND I -- IT WAS A VERY

 

AND I -- IT WAS A VERY
MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCE, THIS

 

MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCE, THIS
WHOLE PROCESS.

 

WHOLE PROCESS.
>> JIM CORCORAN IS AMONG

 

>> JIM CORCORAN IS AMONG
THOUSANDS WHO HAVE TURNED TO

 

THOUSANDS WHO HAVE TURNED TO
OTHERS FOR HELP.

 

OTHERS FOR HELP.
IN HIS CASE INTERFAITH COMMUNITY

 

IN HIS CASE INTERFAITH COMMUNITY
SERVICES IN SUBURBAN TUCSON.

 

SERVICES IN SUBURBAN TUCSON.
THE AGENCY'S ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,

 

THE AGENCY'S ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,
TERRI PATT-SMITH, IS WITNESS TO

 

TERRI PATT-SMITH, IS WITNESS TO
THE CHANGING PICTURE OF POVERTY.

 

THE CHANGING PICTURE OF POVERTY.
>> IS THE SLOW ECONOMY CAUSING A

 

>> IS THE SLOW ECONOMY CAUSING A
CHANGE IN NUMBERS OF CLIENT'LL

 

CHANGE IN NUMBERS OF CLIENT'LL
FOR THE AGENCY?

 

FOR THE AGENCY?
>> YES.

 

>> YES.
LOOKING BACK AT THE NUMBERS OF

 

LOOKING BACK AT THE NUMBERS OF
HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE SERVED IN OUR

 

HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE SERVED IN OUR
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM,

 

FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM,
BACK IN LIKE 2007 WE WERE JUST

 

BACK IN LIKE 2007 WE WERE JUST
OVER 2,000 HOUSEHOLDS FOR THE

 

OVER 2,000 HOUSEHOLDS FOR THE
YEAR.

 

YEAR.
AND THIS YEAR WE JUST FINISHED

 

AND THIS YEAR WE JUST FINISHED
UP AS OF JUNE 30th, AND IT'S

 

UP AS OF JUNE 30th, AND IT'S
4,023.

 

4,023.
>> SO MORE THAN DOUBLE IN JUST

 

>> SO MORE THAN DOUBLE IN JUST
FIVE OR SIX YEARS --

 

FIVE OR SIX YEARS --
>> SIX YEARS.

 

>> SIX YEARS.
IT'S JUST BEEN A GRADUAL

 

IT'S JUST BEEN A GRADUAL
INCREASE EVERY YEAR OF NEED.

 

INCREASE EVERY YEAR OF NEED.
>> AND THAT KIND OF GOES IN LINE

 

>> AND THAT KIND OF GOES IN LINE
WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE

 

WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE
GROWTH OF POVERTY IN SUBURBAN

 

GROWTH OF POVERTY IN SUBURBAN
AREAS.

 

AREAS.
PEOPLE IN NEED.

 

PEOPLE IN NEED.
HERE IN TUCSON ACCORDING TO THE

 

HERE IN TUCSON ACCORDING TO THE
BROOKINGS INSTITUTION UP ABOUT

 

BROOKINGS INSTITUTION UP ABOUT
83% OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO.

 

83% OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO.
AND YOU'RE SEEING THOSE NUMBERS

 

AND YOU'RE SEEING THOSE NUMBERS
REFLECTED IN YOUR CLIENTELE.

 

REFLECTED IN YOUR CLIENTELE.
>> YES.

 

>> YES.
AND THE THING ABOUT POVERTY THAT

 

AND THE THING ABOUT POVERTY THAT
WE'VE SEEN HERE AT ICS IS THAT

 

WE'VE SEEN HERE AT ICS IS THAT
THERE'S GENERATIONAL POVERTY,

 

THERE'S GENERATIONAL POVERTY,
WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE KIND OF

 

WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE KIND OF
FEEL IS THESE CYCLIC FAMILIES

 

FEEL IS THESE CYCLIC FAMILIES
THAT JUST KEEP USING THE SYSTEM

 

THAT JUST KEEP USING THE SYSTEM
AND CAN'T BREAK THEMSELVES OUT.

 

AND CAN'T BREAK THEMSELVES OUT.
BUT THE GROWTH HAS BEEN IN WHAT

 

BUT THE GROWTH HAS BEEN IN WHAT
YOU CALL SITUATIONAL POVERTY.

 

YOU CALL SITUATIONAL POVERTY.
SO SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.

 

SO SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.
AND IN THIS CASE ONE OF THE

 

AND IN THIS CASE ONE OF THE
MAJOR THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IS

 

MAJOR THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IS
THE ECONOMY.

 

THE ECONOMY.
PEOPLE LOSING JOBS.

 

PEOPLE LOSING JOBS.
THE HEALTH CARE COSTS.

 

THE HEALTH CARE COSTS.
THE CHILDCARE COSTS.

 

THE CHILDCARE COSTS.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

 

AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
ALL THOSE ISSUES IS REALLY

 

ALL THOSE ISSUES IS REALLY
MAKING THE MIDDLE CLASS, THE

 

MAKING THE MIDDLE CLASS, THE
STRONG WORKING MIDDLE CLASS, YOU

 

STRONG WORKING MIDDLE CLASS, YOU
KNOW, EDGE THEMSELVES DOWN

 

KNOW, EDGE THEMSELVES DOWN
CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT POOR

 

CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT POOR
OR POVERTY LEVEL.

 

OR POVERTY LEVEL.
>> SO PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER HAD TO

 

>> SO PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER HAD TO
SEEK HELP BEFORE ARE COMING

 

SEEK HELP BEFORE ARE COMING
FORWARD LOOKING FOR HELP?

 

FORWARD LOOKING FOR HELP?
>> RIGHT.

 

>> RIGHT.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE, I'D SAY A

 

MOST OF THE PEOPLE, I'D SAY A
HIGH PERCENTAGE THAT COME IN FOR

 

HIGH PERCENTAGE THAT COME IN FOR
THE CASE MANAGEMENT AND

 

THE CASE MANAGEMENT AND
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, THEY'VE

 

FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, THEY'VE
NEVER HAD HELP BEFORE.

 

NEVER HAD HELP BEFORE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE

 

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE
ASKING TO BE ON THE SNAP PROGRAM

 

ASKING TO BE ON THE SNAP PROGRAM
FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITIONAL

 

FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITIONAL
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

 

ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE ASKING TO

 

THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE ASKING TO
HELP WITH THEIR RENT OR MORTGAGE

 

HELP WITH THEIR RENT OR MORTGAGE
PAYMENT.

 

PAYMENT.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS MAYBE

 

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS MAYBE
THEY'VE BEEN ILL AND THEY HAVE

 

THEY'VE BEEN ILL AND THEY HAVE
NO HEALTH CARE.

 

NO HEALTH CARE.
AND THE JOB DOES NOT GIVE THEM

 

AND THE JOB DOES NOT GIVE THEM
TIME OFF.

 

TIME OFF.
AND SO THEY'VE LOST THAT MONEY.

 

AND SO THEY'VE LOST THAT MONEY.
OR THEY'VE BEEN UNEMPLOYED,

 

OR THEY'VE BEEN UNEMPLOYED,
THERE'S BEEN LAYOFFS, THERE'S

 

THERE'S BEEN LAYOFFS, THERE'S
BEEN DOWNSIZING OF EMPLOYMENT

 

BEEN DOWNSIZING OF EMPLOYMENT
HERE IN TUCSON.

 

HERE IN TUCSON.
SO IF THEY HAVE ANY AMOUNT OF

 

SO IF THEY HAVE ANY AMOUNT OF
GAP IN EMPLOYMENT, IT JUST

 

GAP IN EMPLOYMENT, IT JUST
THROWS THEIR WHOLE LIFESTYLE

 

THROWS THEIR WHOLE LIFESTYLE
OFF.

 

OFF.
AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS IS A

 

AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS IS A
LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE LIVING

 

LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE LIVING
FROM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.

 

FROM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SAFETY

 

SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SAFETY
NET, YOU KNOW, OF SOMETHING

 

NET, YOU KNOW, OF SOMETHING
ANYWHERE -- THEY'RE SAYING NO,

 

ANYWHERE -- THEY'RE SAYING NO,
YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST FIVE,

 

YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST FIVE,
SIX MONTHS OF SAFETY MONEY IN

 

SIX MONTHS OF SAFETY MONEY IN
CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.

 

CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.
OR EVEN A MAJOR CAR REPAIR CAN

 

OR EVEN A MAJOR CAR REPAIR CAN
THROW THEM OFF.

 

THROW THEM OFF.
AND NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION.

 

AND NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
SO THESE ARE ALL SITUATIONAL

 

SO THESE ARE ALL SITUATIONAL
THINGS THAT ARE MAKING THIS

 

THINGS THAT ARE MAKING THIS
MIDDLE CLASS, WHICH IS A LOT OF

 

MIDDLE CLASS, WHICH IS A LOT OF
THE SUBURBAN PEOPLE THAT HAVE

 

THE SUBURBAN PEOPLE THAT HAVE
BEEN REALLY OKAY AND NOW ALL OF

 

BEEN REALLY OKAY AND NOW ALL OF
A SUDDEN THEY'RE SEEKING OUT

 

A SUDDEN THEY'RE SEEKING OUT
HELP.

 

HELP.
>> THAT MAY BE A SURPRISE TO

 

>> THAT MAY BE A SURPRISE TO
SOME OF OUR VIEWERS, THAT IN THE

 

SOME OF OUR VIEWERS, THAT IN THE
SUBURBS, WHICH WE GENERALLY

 

SUBURBS, WHICH WE GENERALLY
THINK OF AS BEING MIDDLE CLASS

 

THINK OF AS BEING MIDDLE CLASS
OR EVEN BEYOND, ESPECIALLY ON

 

OR EVEN BEYOND, ESPECIALLY ON
THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF TUCSON,

 

THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF TUCSON,
THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE STRUGGLING.

 

THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE STRUGGLING.
DOES THAT SURPRISE YOU?

 

DOES THAT SURPRISE YOU?
>> NO.

 

>> NO.
BECAUSE I WOULD SAY A MAJORITY

 

BECAUSE I WOULD SAY A MAJORITY
OF THE CLIENTS THAT I AND MY

 

OF THE CLIENTS THAT I AND MY
CASE MANAGERS ARE SEEING, I SAY

 

CASE MANAGERS ARE SEEING, I SAY
EVEN UP TO 60%, ARE THE SUBURBAN

 

EVEN UP TO 60%, ARE THE SUBURBAN
PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING NOW

 

PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING NOW
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO MAKE

 

UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO MAKE
A GO OF IT.

 

A GO OF IT.
AND THEY ARE ALMOST EMBARRASSED

 

AND THEY ARE ALMOST EMBARRASSED
OR ASHAMED TO BE THERE.

 

OR ASHAMED TO BE THERE.
I LOOK AT IT AS THEY SEE

 

I LOOK AT IT AS THEY SEE
THEMSELVES IN THE CYCLE OF

 

THEMSELVES IN THE CYCLE OF
GIVING AND NOT RECEIVING.

 

GIVING AND NOT RECEIVING.
AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE

 

AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE
IN THAT RECEIVING PART OF THE

 

IN THAT RECEIVING PART OF THE
CYCLE, AND IT'S EXTREMELY HARD

 

CYCLE, AND IT'S EXTREMELY HARD
FOR THEM TO COME IN HERE AND ASK

 

FOR THEM TO COME IN HERE AND ASK
FOR HELP.

 

FOR HELP.
>> WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE

 

>> WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE
STRUGGLING THAT WAY, HOW DO YOU

 

STRUGGLING THAT WAY, HOW DO YOU
MAINTAIN A POSITIVE ATTITUDE SO

 

MAINTAIN A POSITIVE ATTITUDE SO
THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE THE WORK

 

THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE THE WORK
YOU DO?

 

YOU DO?
YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN HERE 20

 

YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN HERE 20
YEARS.

 

YEARS.
>> MM-HMM.

 

>> MM-HMM.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?

 

WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
OUR PHILOSOPHY AND MINE

 

OUR PHILOSOPHY AND MINE
ESPECIALLY AND I TRY TO TEACH

 

ESPECIALLY AND I TRY TO TEACH
THAT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO

 

THAT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO
WORK HERE, IS THAT YOU TAKE ONE

 

WORK HERE, IS THAT YOU TAKE ONE
SITUATION AT A TIME.

 

SITUATION AT A TIME.
YOU TAKE ONE CLIENT, ONE

 

YOU TAKE ONE CLIENT, ONE
HOUSEHOLD AT A TIME, AND YOU

 

HOUSEHOLD AT A TIME, AND YOU
TAKE THAT AS A WHOLE SITUATION.

 

TAKE THAT AS A WHOLE SITUATION.
YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE COME IN

 

YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE COME IN
FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

 

FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE.
BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY STRUGGLING

 

BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY STRUGGLING
WITH A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER

 

WITH A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER
THINGS.

 

THINGS.
SO THAT'S YOUR CHALLENGE AND

 

SO THAT'S YOUR CHALLENGE AND
YOUR POSITIVE THING IS TO SAY

 

YOUR POSITIVE THING IS TO SAY
OKAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS

 

OKAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS
SITUATION AND HELP THEM, YOU

 

SITUATION AND HELP THEM, YOU
KNOW, WHETHER IT'S HELPING THEM

 

KNOW, WHETHER IT'S HELPING THEM
HERE AT ICS OR REFERRING THEM

 

HERE AT ICS OR REFERRING THEM
OUT.

 

OUT.
AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU'VE MADE A

 

AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU'VE MADE A
DIFFERENCE FOR THEM BECAUSE A

 

DIFFERENCE FOR THEM BECAUSE A
LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T EVEN

 

LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T EVEN
KNOW WHERE TO GO.

 

KNOW WHERE TO GO.
THIS IS THE FIRST-TIME SITUATION

 

THIS IS THE FIRST-TIME SITUATION
FOR THEM.

 

FOR THEM.
SO YOU'RE OPENING THEM UP TO A

 

SO YOU'RE OPENING THEM UP TO A
WORLD WHERE NOW THEY'VE PUT INTO

 

WORLD WHERE NOW THEY'VE PUT INTO
THE SYSTEM AND NOW THE SYSTEM IS

 

THE SYSTEM AND NOW THE SYSTEM IS
GOING TO COME BACK AND HELP

 

GOING TO COME BACK AND HELP
THEM.

 

THEM.
AND SO THAT'S -- THAT MAKES YOU

 

AND SO THAT'S -- THAT MAKES YOU
FEEL GOOD.

 

FEEL GOOD.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE

 

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE
SUCCESSES.

 

SUCCESSES.
AND IT CAN BE ONE AT A TIME.

 

AND IT CAN BE ONE AT A TIME.
YOU DON'T LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE

 

YOU DON'T LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE
SITTING OUT IN THE LOBBY OR

 

SITTING OUT IN THE LOBBY OR
LINED UP AT THE FOOD BANK.

 

LINED UP AT THE FOOD BANK.
YOU JUST TAKE THAT ONE SITTING

 

YOU JUST TAKE THAT ONE SITTING
IN FRONT OF YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU

 

IN FRONT OF YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU
CAN DO TO MAKE THOSE CHALLENGES

 

CAN DO TO MAKE THOSE CHALLENGES
REALLY GIVE THEM A CHALLENGE

 

REALLY GIVE THEM A CHALLENGE
TOO.

 

TOO.
THAT'S IMPORTANT.

 

THAT'S IMPORTANT.
THEY HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF

 

THEY HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF
WHAT'S HAPPENING.

 

WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE DO

 

AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE DO
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET THE

 

BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET THE
SITUATION BETTER.

 

SITUATION BETTER.
THEY WANT TO DO WHAT THEY NEED

 

THEY WANT TO DO WHAT THEY NEED
TO DO TO GET SELF-SUFFICIENT

 

TO DO TO GET SELF-SUFFICIENT
AGAIN.

 

AGAIN.
>> IN FACT, THE AMERICAN CULTURE

 

>> IN FACT, THE AMERICAN CULTURE
IS ONE OF TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF

 

IS ONE OF TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF
INDIVIDUALITY, PULL YOURSELF UP

 

INDIVIDUALITY, PULL YOURSELF UP
BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS.

 

BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO

 

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO
WOULD SAY, WELL, THE CLIENTELE

 

WOULD SAY, WELL, THE CLIENTELE
HERE JUST OUGHT TO DO THAT FOR

 

HERE JUST OUGHT TO DO THAT FOR
THEMSELVES?

 

THEMSELVES?
>> I'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE WE

 

>> I'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE WE
HAVE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS THAT

 

HAVE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS THAT
WORK HERE.

 

WORK HERE.
SO THEY'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY

 

SO THEY'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY
AND A MAJORITY OF THEM LIVE UP

 

AND A MAJORITY OF THEM LIVE UP
HERE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF

 

HERE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF
TUCSON.

 

TUCSON.
AND THEY'VE SEEN THEIR NEIGHBORS

 

AND THEY'VE SEEN THEIR NEIGHBORS
IN HERE.

 

IN HERE.
THEY KNOW AND WE KNOW THAT COULD

 

THEY KNOW AND WE KNOW THAT COULD
BE THAT PERSON SITTING NEXT TO

 

BE THAT PERSON SITTING NEXT TO
YOU IN CHURCH OR IN LINE AT THE

 

YOU IN CHURCH OR IN LINE AT THE
BANK OR -- THEY ARE JUST AS

 

BANK OR -- THEY ARE JUST AS
SURPRISED THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE

 

SURPRISED THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE
THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE

 

THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE
STRUGGLING.

 

STRUGGLING.
>> THAT BROOKINGS INSTITUTION

 

>> THAT BROOKINGS INSTITUTION
STUDY SHOWING THAT POVERTY IN

 

STUDY SHOWING THAT POVERTY IN
SUBURBAN TUCSON ROSE 83% IN A

 

SUBURBAN TUCSON ROSE 83% IN A
DECADE ALSO SHOWS THE INCREASE

 

DECADE ALSO SHOWS THE INCREASE
IN SUBURBAN PHOENIX WAS 134%.

 

IN SUBURBAN PHOENIX WAS 134%.
SAM SUMNER OF THE TEMPE

 

SAM SUMNER OF THE TEMPE
COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY SPOKE TO

 

COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY SPOKE TO
ME ABOUT IT.

 

ME ABOUT IT.
>> WE'RE HERE IN THE PANTRY OF

 

>> WE'RE HERE IN THE PANTRY OF
THE COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY.

 

THE COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

 

AND THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
IS THAT EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT'S

 

IS THAT EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH THE AGENCY'S

 

GOING ON WITH THE AGENCY'S
BUSINESS?

 

BUSINESS?
YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF DEMAND.

 

YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF DEMAND.
>> YES.

 

>> YES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS

 

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THIS
PORTION OBVIOUSLY, FOOD PANTRY,

 

PORTION OBVIOUSLY, FOOD PANTRY,
FOOD IS A PIECE OF -- ONE OF THE

 

FOOD IS A PIECE OF -- ONE OF THE
PIECES OF WHAT WE DO.

 

PIECES OF WHAT WE DO.
AND WE'VE SEEN IT INCREASE.

 

AND WE'VE SEEN IT INCREASE.
IT'S BEEN GRADUAL OVER THE LAST

 

IT'S BEEN GRADUAL OVER THE LAST
FIVE, SIX YEARS WHERE THERE'S A

 

FIVE, SIX YEARS WHERE THERE'S A
LOT OF DEMAND FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE

 

LOT OF DEMAND FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE
SOMETHING TO EAT.

 

SOMETHING TO EAT.
INTERESTINGLY, IT'S SUMMER.

 

INTERESTINGLY, IT'S SUMMER.
SUMMER'S ONE OF THE WORST TIMES

 

SUMMER'S ONE OF THE WORST TIMES
FOR A LOT OF FOOD PANTRIES,

 

FOR A LOT OF FOOD PANTRIES,
ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE

 

ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE
METROPOLITAN PHOENIX AREA.

 

METROPOLITAN PHOENIX AREA.
SNOWBIRDS ARE BACK HOME.

 

SNOWBIRDS ARE BACK HOME.
AND I DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM

 

AND I DON'T LIKE TO CALL THEM
SNOWBIRDS, BUT THE RETIREES,

 

SNOWBIRDS, BUT THE RETIREES,
WE'LL CALL IT THAT, THEY HELP

 

WE'LL CALL IT THAT, THEY HELP
STOCK SHELVES BY HAVING DRIVES

 

STOCK SHELVES BY HAVING DRIVES
AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE.

 

AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION.

 

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, FOOD PANTRIES

 

AND UNFORTUNATELY, FOOD PANTRIES
TEND TO SUFFER.

 

TEND TO SUFFER.
WE STILL HAVE THE DEMAND IN THE

 

WE STILL HAVE THE DEMAND IN THE
SUMMER, SAME DEMAND AS WE HAVE

 

SUMMER, SAME DEMAND AS WE HAVE
IN DECEMBER OR FEBRUARY OR ANY

 

IN DECEMBER OR FEBRUARY OR ANY
OTHER MONTH.

 

OTHER MONTH.
WE SEE A LOT OF FOOD GOING OUT.

 

WE SEE A LOT OF FOOD GOING OUT.
>> WHAT OTHER SERVICES DOES THE

 

>> WHAT OTHER SERVICES DOES THE
AGENCY PROVIDE, AND WHAT ARE YOU

 

AGENCY PROVIDE, AND WHAT ARE YOU
SEEING TRENDWISE WITH THE

 

SEEING TRENDWISE WITH THE
DEMANDS FOR THOSE SERVICES?

 

DEMANDS FOR THOSE SERVICES?
>> FOR TEMPE COMMUNITY ACTION

 

>> FOR TEMPE COMMUNITY ACTION
AGENCY WE HAVE REALLY TWO SIDES.

 

AGENCY WE HAVE REALLY TWO SIDES.
WE HAVE THE SENIOR SERVICES

 

WE HAVE THE SENIOR SERVICES
SIDE.

 

SIDE.
THAT SIDE HAS SOCIAL,

 

THAT SIDE HAS SOCIAL,
RECREATIONAL EVENTS FOR SENIORS

 

RECREATIONAL EVENTS FOR SENIORS
AND THE OTHER ONES RESPONSIBLE

 

AND THE OTHER ONES RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE HOME-DELIVERED MEAL

 

FOR THE HOME-DELIVERED MEAL
PROCESS, WHAT MANY PEOPLE ACROSS

 

PROCESS, WHAT MANY PEOPLE ACROSS
THE NATION KNOW AS MEALS ON

 

THE NATION KNOW AS MEALS ON
WHEELS.

 

WHEELS.
WE'VE SEEN AN UPTAKE IN THE

 

WE'VE SEEN AN UPTAKE IN THE
SERVICES FOR MEALS ON WHEELS.

 

SERVICES FOR MEALS ON WHEELS.
AND IT'S HOLDING CONSISTENTLY ON

 

AND IT'S HOLDING CONSISTENTLY ON
THOSE COMING INTO THE SERVICES,

 

THOSE COMING INTO THE SERVICES,
LEARNING HOW TO REACH OUT TO A

 

LEARNING HOW TO REACH OUT TO A
NEW BABY BOOMER GENERATION THAT

 

NEW BABY BOOMER GENERATION THAT
IS NOT NORMALLY KNOWN TO REACH

 

IS NOT NORMALLY KNOWN TO REACH
OUT TO SENIOR SERVICES.

 

OUT TO SENIOR SERVICES.
BUT WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO

 

BUT WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO
REACH OUT TO THEM.

 

REACH OUT TO THEM.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE,

 

THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE,
THAT'S MY SIDE, THE CAP,

 

THAT'S MY SIDE, THE CAP,
TRADITIONAL CAP SERVICES, THAT'S

 

TRADITIONAL CAP SERVICES, THAT'S
RENT UTILITY.

 

RENT UTILITY.
SO RENTS, MORTGAGES, LIGHTS,

 

SO RENTS, MORTGAGES, LIGHTS,
WATER, GAS.

 

WATER, GAS.
IT'S THE FOOD.

 

IT'S THE FOOD.
IT IS HOMELESS SERVICES.

 

IT IS HOMELESS SERVICES.
WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GARDEN.

 

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GARDEN.
WE ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED

 

WE ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED
HEALTH START, WHICH IS A PROGRAM

 

HEALTH START, WHICH IS A PROGRAM
FOR -- IT'S A PRENATAL PROGRAM.

 

FOR -- IT'S A PRENATAL PROGRAM.
>> AND YOU'RE SEEING INCREASED

 

>> AND YOU'RE SEEING INCREASED
DEMAND FOR ALL OF THESE SERVICES

 

DEMAND FOR ALL OF THESE SERVICES
ACROSS THE WAY, RIGHT?

 

ACROSS THE WAY, RIGHT?
>> FOR EVERYBODY.

 

>> FOR EVERYBODY.
>> AND WHAT'S THE DRIVING FORCE

 

>> AND WHAT'S THE DRIVING FORCE
BEHIND THAT?

 

BEHIND THAT?
OBVIOUSLY, THE ECONOMY IS STILL

 

OBVIOUSLY, THE ECONOMY IS STILL
VERY SLOW AND THERE WAS THE BIG

 

VERY SLOW AND THERE WAS THE BIG
HOUSING BUST.

 

HOUSING BUST.
BUT ARE THERE OTHER ISSUES

 

BUT ARE THERE OTHER ISSUES
INVOLVED?

 

INVOLVED?
>> WELL, IN TEMPE HOUSING IS A

 

>> WELL, IN TEMPE HOUSING IS A
PREMIUM.

 

PREMIUM.
WE MAY BE CONSIDERED A SUBURB OF

 

WE MAY BE CONSIDERED A SUBURB OF
PHOENIX, BUT SOME THINGS ARE

 

PHOENIX, BUT SOME THINGS ARE
KIND OF TRADITIONAL HERE IN

 

KIND OF TRADITIONAL HERE IN
TEMPE, WHERE THE FURTHER SOUTH

 

TEMPE, WHERE THE FURTHER SOUTH
YOU MOVE THE MORE WELL TO DO.

 

YOU MOVE THE MORE WELL TO DO.
THE FURTHER NORTH YOU GO, IT'S

 

THE FURTHER NORTH YOU GO, IT'S
MORE RENTERS, MORE FOLKS

 

MORE RENTERS, MORE FOLKS
SCRAMBLING FOR HOUSING AND

 

SCRAMBLING FOR HOUSING AND
HOUSING IS AT A PREMIUM.

 

HOUSING IS AT A PREMIUM.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- I

 

YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- I
NEED TO CHECK THE SPECIFICS, BUT

 

NEED TO CHECK THE SPECIFICS, BUT
I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND IN THE 30%

 

I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND IN THE 30%
POSSIBLY UP TO 50% FOR RENTERS,

 

POSSIBLY UP TO 50% FOR RENTERS,
30% FOR THOSE THAT ARE

 

30% FOR THOSE THAT ARE
HOMEOWNERS ARE PAYING MORE THAN

 

HOMEOWNERS ARE PAYING MORE THAN
THE 33 -- A THIRD OF WHAT YOU

 

THE 33 -- A THIRD OF WHAT YOU
BRING IN, WHICH SHOULD BE WHAT

 

BRING IN, WHICH SHOULD BE WHAT
YOU PAY OUT FOR RENT.

 

YOU PAY OUT FOR RENT.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF TEMPEANS THAT

 

YOU HAVE A LOT OF TEMPEANS THAT
ARE PAYING MUCH MORE THAN THAT

 

ARE PAYING MUCH MORE THAN THAT
THIRD FOR HOUSING.

 

THIRD FOR HOUSING.
AND THAT CAUSES PEOPLE TO MAKE

 

AND THAT CAUSES PEOPLE TO MAKE
DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

 

DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSING

 

IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSING
AND IT COSTS 50% OF YOUR

 

AND IT COSTS 50% OF YOUR
HOUSEHOLD BUDGET, WHAT GETS

 

HOUSEHOLD BUDGET, WHAT GETS
CAUGHT -- WHAT GETS CUT?

 

CAUGHT -- WHAT GETS CUT?
YOU KNOW, IS IT FOOD?

 

YOU KNOW, IS IT FOOD?
IS IT YOUR UTILITIES?

 

IS IT YOUR UTILITIES?
ARE YOU LATE ON YOUR RENT OR

 

ARE YOU LATE ON YOUR RENT OR
YOUR MORTGAGE?

 

YOUR MORTGAGE?
WHAT GIVES?

 

WHAT GIVES?
>> HEALTH CARE.

 

>> HEALTH CARE.
>> YOU'RE GOING WHERE I'M --

 

>> YOU'RE GOING WHERE I'M --
THERE IT IS.

 

THERE IT IS.
ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT

 

ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT
COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN IS IF YOU

 

COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN IS IF YOU
GET SICK OR IF THERE'S A CAR

 

GET SICK OR IF THERE'S A CAR
THAT BREAKS DOWN OR ANY OF THOSE

 

THAT BREAKS DOWN OR ANY OF THOSE
SMALLER THINGS THAT FOR A LOT OF

 

SMALLER THINGS THAT FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION THEY

 

PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION THEY
WOULDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT

 

WOULDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT
BUT WHEN YOU'RE LIVING ON THE

 

BUT WHEN YOU'RE LIVING ON THE
EDGE ONE SMALL HICCUP,

 

EDGE ONE SMALL HICCUP,
ESPECIALLY HELTCARE, IT CAN

 

ESPECIALLY HELTCARE, IT CAN
CAUSE A FRAGILE BUDGET TO BECOME

 

CAUSE A FRAGILE BUDGET TO BECOME
DISASTROUS.

 

DISASTROUS.
>> DO PEOPLE WHO MAKE HAVING

 

>> DO PEOPLE WHO MAKE HAVING
THOSE KINDS OF EXPERIENCES, ARE

 

THOSE KINDS OF EXPERIENCES, ARE
THEY IN THREAT OF BECOMING

 

THEY IN THREAT OF BECOMING
PERMANENTLY IMPOVERISHED?

 

PERMANENTLY IMPOVERISHED?
ARE WE SEEING THAT HAPPEN?

 

ARE WE SEEING THAT HAPPEN?
>> YES AND NO.

 

>> YES AND NO.
THE THREAT IS THERE.

 

THE THREAT IS THERE.
THAT IS A REAL POSSIBILITY FOR A

 

THAT IS A REAL POSSIBILITY FOR A
NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

 

NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO

 

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO
DO HERE IS BOTH DRIVEN FROM US

 

DO HERE IS BOTH DRIVEN FROM US
AND DRIVEN FROM THE CLIENTS THAT

 

AND DRIVEN FROM THE CLIENTS THAT
COME TO US IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE

 

COME TO US IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE
THAT WANT TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT

 

THAT WANT TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT
AND YOU SEE PEOPLE ACTIVELY

 

AND YOU SEE PEOPLE ACTIVELY
GOING ABOUT DIFFERENT AVENUES TO

 

GOING ABOUT DIFFERENT AVENUES TO
IMPROVE WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN

 

IMPROVE WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN
THEIR LIVES.

 

THEIR LIVES.
SO IF THAT MEANS THEY COME TO

 

SO IF THAT MEANS THEY COME TO
OURISH AND I DIDN'T SAY THIS

 

OURISH AND I DIDN'T SAY THIS
EARLIER.

 

EARLIER.
WE HAVE A FULL-TIME CASE MANAGER

 

WE HAVE A FULL-TIME CASE MANAGER
HERE.

 

HERE.
THEY COME TO OUR CASE MANAGER

 

THEY COME TO OUR CASE MANAGER
AND WORK IN THE JOBS CORPS AREA

 

AND WORK IN THE JOBS CORPS AREA
SO THAT THEY CAN UPDATE THEIR

 

SO THAT THEY CAN UPDATE THEIR
RESUME, STRENGTHEN THEIR RESUME,

 

RESUME, STRENGTHEN THEIR RESUME,
FIND A BETTER-PAYING JOB.

 

FIND A BETTER-PAYING JOB.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT

 

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT
OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ESSENCE

 

OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ESSENCE
THE WORKING POOR.

 

THE WORKING POOR.
THEY HAVE A JOB.

 

THEY HAVE A JOB.
BUT THAT JOB DOESN'T PAY ENOUGH

 

BUT THAT JOB DOESN'T PAY ENOUGH
FOR THEM TO REALLY SURVIVE.

 

FOR THEM TO REALLY SURVIVE.
>> THE PROGRAM YOU DIRECT, THE

 

>> THE PROGRAM YOU DIRECT, THE
COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM, IS AN

 

COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM, IS AN
OUTGROWTH OF THE ORIGINAL WAR ON

 

OUTGROWTH OF THE ORIGINAL WAR ON
POVERTY FROM ALMOST 50 YEARS

 

POVERTY FROM ALMOST 50 YEARS
AGO.

 

AGO.
>> CORRECT.

 

>> CORRECT.
>> PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON.

 

>> PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON.
>> CORRECT.

 

>> CORRECT.
>> DO WE NEED A NEW WAR ON

 

>> DO WE NEED A NEW WAR ON
POVERTY?

 

POVERTY?
HAVE WE LOST THE WAR?

 

HAVE WE LOST THE WAR?
HAVE WE WON THE WAR?

 

HAVE WE WON THE WAR?
ARE WE STILL BATTLING?

 

ARE WE STILL BATTLING?
>> NOW YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY

 

>> NOW YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY
MAKE ME THINK.

 

MAKE ME THINK.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A NEW

 

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A NEW
WAR ON POVERTY, BUT WE PROBABLY

 

WAR ON POVERTY, BUT WE PROBABLY
NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN TAKE

 

NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN TAKE
A NOBLE THOUGHT THAT WAS 50

 

A NOBLE THOUGHT THAT WAS 50
YEARS OLD AND MAKE IT VIABLE FOR

 

YEARS OLD AND MAKE IT VIABLE FOR
THE 21st CENTURY BECAUSE SOME OF

 

THE 21st CENTURY BECAUSE SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT APPLY NOW, THEY

 

THE THINGS THAT APPLY NOW, THEY
WEREN'T AROUND 50 YEARS AGO.

 

WEREN'T AROUND 50 YEARS AGO.
HERE IN TEMPE, 35% OF THOSE THAT

 

HERE IN TEMPE, 35% OF THOSE THAT
ARE LIVING IN POVERTY ARE FEMALE

 

ARE LIVING IN POVERTY ARE FEMALE
HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS.

 

HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE

 

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
STATISTIC FOR THAT WAS 50 YEARS

 

STATISTIC FOR THAT WAS 50 YEARS
AGO.

 

AGO.
BUT I CAN GUARANTEE IT WASN'T

 

BUT I CAN GUARANTEE IT WASN'T
35%.

 

35%.
AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS

 

AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS
LIKE THAT.

 

LIKE THAT.
>> 19% OF ARIZONANS LIVE BELOW

 

>> 19% OF ARIZONANS LIVE BELOW
THE POVERTY LINE.

 

THE POVERTY LINE.
A FIGURE MADE WORSE BY WHAT'S

 

A FIGURE MADE WORSE BY WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN THE PHOENIX AND

 

HAPPENING IN THE PHOENIX AND
TUCSON SUBURBS.

 

TUCSON SUBURBS.
IT SHOWS IN STATISTICS TRACKED

 

IT SHOWS IN STATISTICS TRACKED
BY ARIZONA INDICATORS A

 

BY ARIZONA INDICATORS A
CENTRALIZED DATA RESOURCE

 

CENTRALIZED DATA RESOURCE
OVERSEEN BY THE MORRISON

 

OVERSEEN BY THE MORRISON
INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC POLICY IN

 

INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC POLICY IN
PHOENIX.

 

PHOENIX.
HERE'S ANDREA WHITSETT, MANAGER

 

HERE'S ANDREA WHITSETT, MANAGER
OF ARIZONA INDICATORS.

 

OF ARIZONA INDICATORS.
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN THE

 

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN THE
INDICATORS THAT SET TRENDS FOR

 

INDICATORS THAT SET TRENDS FOR
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH POVERTY IN

 

WHAT'S GOING ON WITH POVERTY IN

 


ARIZONA?

 

ARIZONA?
>> WELL, THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY

 

>> WELL, THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY
BLEAK RIGHT NOW.

 

BLEAK RIGHT NOW.
ARIZONA HAS TIED FOR THE SIXTH

 

ARIZONA HAS TIED FOR THE SIXTH
HIGHEST POVERTY RATE IN THE

 

HIGHEST POVERTY RATE IN THE
NATION, ALONG WITH ALABAMA.

 

NATION, ALONG WITH ALABAMA.
SO OBVIOUSLY NOT A POSITION THAT

 

SO OBVIOUSLY NOT A POSITION THAT
WE WANT TO BE IN.

 

WE WANT TO BE IN.
WE'RE AT ABOUT 19% FOR AN

 

WE'RE AT ABOUT 19% FOR AN
OVERALL POFRVERTY RATE.

 

OVERALL POFRVERTY RATE.
AND THAT'S UP FROM JUST ABOUT

 

AND THAT'S UP FROM JUST ABOUT
13% A DECADE AGO.

 

13% A DECADE AGO.
>> THAT'S DRIVEN LARGELY BY

 

>> THAT'S DRIVEN LARGELY BY
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMY

 

WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMY
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

 

OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU SEEING

 

WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU SEEING
IN THAT REGARD?

 

IN THAT REGARD?
>> WELL, I THINK ONE BIG IMPACT

 

>> WELL, I THINK ONE BIG IMPACT
HAS BEEN ON THE LIVES OF

 

HAS BEEN ON THE LIVES OF
CHILDREN.

 

CHILDREN.
WE HAVE ONE IN FOUR ARIZONA

 

WE HAVE ONE IN FOUR ARIZONA
CHILDREN LIVING IN POVERTY.

 

CHILDREN LIVING IN POVERTY.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF

 

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF
IMPLICATIONS AND CONSEQUENCES OF

 

IMPLICATIONS AND CONSEQUENCES OF
THAT NUMBER.

 

THAT NUMBER.
FOR INSTANCE, FOOD INSECURITY.

 

FOR INSTANCE, FOOD INSECURITY.
WE HAVE NEARLY HALF A MILLION

 

WE HAVE NEARLY HALF A MILLION
ARIZONA CHILDREN WHO ARE FOOD

 

ARIZONA CHILDREN WHO ARE FOOD
INSECURE, MEANING THEY DON'T

 

INSECURE, MEANING THEY DON'T
KNOW WHERE THEIR NEXT MEAL IS

 

KNOW WHERE THEIR NEXT MEAL IS
COMING FROM.

 

COMING FROM.
>> AND ARE YOU SEEING THIS

 

>> AND ARE YOU SEEING THIS
SPREAD ACROSS THE STATE?

 

SPREAD ACROSS THE STATE?
IS IT MORE URBANIZED?

 

IS IT MORE URBANIZED?
MORE IN RURAL AREAS?

 

MORE IN RURAL AREAS?
SUBURBAN AREAS?

 

SUBURBAN AREAS?
>> WELL, RURAL POVERTY RATES DO

 

>> WELL, RURAL POVERTY RATES DO
TEND TO BE HIGHER.

 

TEND TO BE HIGHER.
FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT

 

FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT
NAVAJO AND APACHE COUNTY, THEIR

 

NAVAJO AND APACHE COUNTY, THEIR
POVERTY RATES ARE UPWARD OF 40%.

 

POVERTY RATES ARE UPWARD OF 40%.
AND THEN SOME INTERESTING TRENDS

 

AND THEN SOME INTERESTING TRENDS
WE'VE BEEN OBSERVING ARE

 

WE'VE BEEN OBSERVING ARE
ACTUALLY WITH DIFFERENCES IN

 

ACTUALLY WITH DIFFERENCES IN
SUBURBAN VERSUS URBAN POVERTY.

 

SUBURBAN VERSUS URBAN POVERTY.
SO THERE WAS A RECENT BROOKINGS

 

SO THERE WAS A RECENT BROOKINGS
INSTITUTION REPORT THAT LOOKS AT

 

INSTITUTION REPORT THAT LOOKS AT
THIS CHANGE, AND THEY SHOW THAT

 

THIS CHANGE, AND THEY SHOW THAT
THERE ARE MUCH FASTER GROWTH

 

THERE ARE MUCH FASTER GROWTH
RATES IN SUBURBAN POVERTY THAN

 

RATES IN SUBURBAN POVERTY THAN
IN URBAN POVERTY.

 

IN URBAN POVERTY.
>> AND WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THAT?

 

>> AND WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THAT?
>> I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF

 

>> I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF
FACTORS.

 

FACTORS.
THE FIRST AND MOST OBVIOUS ONE

 

THE FIRST AND MOST OBVIOUS ONE
BEING POPULATION GROWTH.

 

BEING POPULATION GROWTH.
SO FOR INSTANCE, POPULATION

 

SO FOR INSTANCE, POPULATION
GROWTH FOR METROPOLITAN PHOENIX.

 

GROWTH FOR METROPOLITAN PHOENIX.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OVER THE

 

IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OVER THE
PAST DECADE, 9% CHANGE.

 

PAST DECADE, 9% CHANGE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUBURBAN

 

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUBURBAN
AREAS, 59% CHANGE.

 

AREAS, 59% CHANGE.
SO THAT'S VERY DRAMATIC.

 

SO THAT'S VERY DRAMATIC.
>> THE ECONOMY AGAIN IS THE

 

>> THE ECONOMY AGAIN IS THE
DRIVER HERE.

 

DRIVER HERE.
BUT WHAT OTHER FACTORS ARE WE

 

BUT WHAT OTHER FACTORS ARE WE
SEEING, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO

 

SEEING, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO
THE HOUSING BUBBLE THAT WE SAW?

 

THE HOUSING BUBBLE THAT WE SAW?
>> WELL, FOR SUBURBAN HOMEOWNERS

 

>> WELL, FOR SUBURBAN HOMEOWNERS
WHO WENT INTO FORECLOSURE, THAT

 

WHO WENT INTO FORECLOSURE, THAT
WAS A MAJOR CRISIS.

 

WAS A MAJOR CRISIS.
BUT COMING BACK TO THE ECONOMY,

 

BUT COMING BACK TO THE ECONOMY,
I DO THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH

 

I DO THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH
OUR LOW-WAGE JOBS.

 

OUR LOW-WAGE JOBS.
NEARLY A QUARTER OF ARIZONA JOBS

 

NEARLY A QUARTER OF ARIZONA JOBS
ARE LOW-WAGE, AND WE KNOW A LOT

 

ARE LOW-WAGE, AND WE KNOW A LOT
OF THOSE ARE IN AREAS LIKE

 

OF THOSE ARE IN AREAS LIKE
RETAIL THAT TEND TO BE

 

RETAIL THAT TEND TO BE
CONCENTRATED IN SUBURBAN AREAS.

 

CONCENTRATED IN SUBURBAN AREAS.
>> ARE YOU SEEING ANY HINTS IN

 

>> ARE YOU SEEING ANY HINTS IN
THE NUMBERS YOU LOOK AT AS TO

 

THE NUMBERS YOU LOOK AT AS TO
HOW THIS CAN BE AMELIORATED, HOW

 

HOW THIS CAN BE AMELIORATED, HOW
WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF

 

WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF
DEALING WITH THE ISSUES OF

 

DEALING WITH THE ISSUES OF
POVERTY IN THE STATE?

 

POVERTY IN THE STATE?
>> WELL, I THINK THE WAY WE

 

>> WELL, I THINK THE WAY WE
RESPOND IS IMPORTANT.

 

RESPOND IS IMPORTANT.
FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOKED AT A

 

FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOKED AT A
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS

 

NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS
HISTORICALLY LOW INCOME, YOU

 

HISTORICALLY LOW INCOME, YOU
WOULD IMAGINE THAT OVER TIME

 

WOULD IMAGINE THAT OVER TIME
CERTAIN SERVICES HAVE CROPPED

 

CERTAIN SERVICES HAVE CROPPED
UP, FOR INSTANCE, FOOD BANKS OR

 

UP, FOR INSTANCE, FOOD BANKS OR
READY ACCESS TO A FREE MEDICAL

 

READY ACCESS TO A FREE MEDICAL
CLINIC, FOR EXAMPLE.

 

CLINIC, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND IN SUBURBAN POVERTY,

 

AND IN SUBURBAN POVERTY,
SUBURBAN POVERTY TENDS TO BE A

 

SUBURBAN POVERTY TENDS TO BE A
LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFUSE.

 

LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFUSE.
SO IT'S HARDER TO TARGET THE

 

SO IT'S HARDER TO TARGET THE
NEED.

 

NEED.
AND IT TAKES TIME FOR THAT

 

AND IT TAKES TIME FOR THAT
SOCIAL SAFETY NET TO SHIFT.

 

SOCIAL SAFETY NET TO SHIFT.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING MORE THAT

 

>> IS THERE ANYTHING MORE THAT
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE DOING IN

 

GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE DOING IN
THE WAY OF PUBLIC POLICY, IN THE

 

THE WAY OF PUBLIC POLICY, IN THE
WAY OF FUNDING, IN THE WAY OF

 

WAY OF FUNDING, IN THE WAY OF
CHANGING ITS APPROACH TO HELPING

 

CHANGING ITS APPROACH TO HELPING
PEOPLE WITH A SAFETY NET?

 

PEOPLE WITH A SAFETY NET?
>> WELL, ONE TYPE OF GOVERNMENT

 

>> WELL, ONE TYPE OF GOVERNMENT
RESPONSE COULD ACTUALLY BE IN

 

RESPONSE COULD ACTUALLY BE IN
SOMETHING LIKE TRANSPORTATION

 

SOMETHING LIKE TRANSPORTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE.

 

INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE KNOW THAT LOW-INCOME FAMILIES

 

WE KNOW THAT LOW-INCOME FAMILIES
TEND TO RELY MORE HEAVILY ON

 

TEND TO RELY MORE HEAVILY ON
PUBLIC TRANSIT, FOR INSTANCE,

 

PUBLIC TRANSIT, FOR INSTANCE,
AND IT TAKES TIME FOR BUS ROUTES

 

AND IT TAKES TIME FOR BUS ROUTES
OR FOR LIGHT RAIL EXTENSION TO

 

OR FOR LIGHT RAIL EXTENSION TO
ADAPT AND TO MEET THE CHANGES IN

 

ADAPT AND TO MEET THE CHANGES IN
DEMAND.

 

DEMAND.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT

 

>> THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT
THE WIDENING INCOME GAP IN THE

 

THE WIDENING INCOME GAP IN THE
COUNTRY.

 

COUNTRY.
THE RICH GETTING RICHER.

 

THE RICH GETTING RICHER.
THE POOR GETTING POORER.

 

THE POOR GETTING POORER.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS MANIFESTED IN

 

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS MANIFESTED IN
WHAT WE SEE IN THE POVERTY

 

WHAT WE SEE IN THE POVERTY
NUMBERS.

 

NUMBERS.
BUT DO YOU SEE LONG-TERM TRENDS

 

BUT DO YOU SEE LONG-TERM TRENDS
IN THAT THAT MIGHT LEAD US TO

 

IN THAT THAT MIGHT LEAD US TO
CONCLUDE SOMETHING ELSE WILL

 

CONCLUDE SOMETHING ELSE WILL
HAPPEN HERE THAT PEOPLE CAN

 

HAPPEN HERE THAT PEOPLE CAN
REGAIN THEIR ECONOMIC FOOTING?

 

REGAIN THEIR ECONOMIC FOOTING?
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO THINK

 

>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO THINK
THAT'S THE CASE, BUT ONE NUMBER

 

THAT'S THE CASE, BUT ONE NUMBER
THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME IS THE

 

THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME IS THE
NUMBER THAT COMES OUT OF THE

 

NUMBER THAT COMES OUT OF THE
CFED ASSETS AND OPPORTUNITIES

 

CFED ASSETS AND OPPORTUNITIES
SCORECARD AND IT'S LOOKING AT A

 

SCORECARD AND IT'S LOOKING AT A
MEASURE CALLED LIQUID ASSET

 

MEASURE CALLED LIQUID ASSET
POVERTY.

 

POVERTY.
WHICH SOUNDS CONFUSING.

 

WHICH SOUNDS CONFUSING.
BUT REALLY THAT'S JUST GETTING

 

BUT REALLY THAT'S JUST GETTING
AT IF A FAMILY HAS ENOUGH

 

AT IF A FAMILY HAS ENOUGH
SAVINGS IN THE BANK TO COVER

 

SAVINGS IN THE BANK TO COVER
THREE MONTHS OF THEIR BASIC

 

THREE MONTHS OF THEIR BASIC
LIVING EXPENSES.

 

LIVING EXPENSES.
SO IN THE EVENT OF A MEDICAL

 

SO IN THE EVENT OF A MEDICAL
EMERGENCY, THE EVENT OF JOB

 

EMERGENCY, THE EVENT OF JOB
LOSS.

 

LOSS.
AND I THINK THIS NUMBER PAINTS A

 

AND I THINK THIS NUMBER PAINTS A
MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF THE

 

MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF THE
FINANCIAL VULNERABILITY OF

 

FINANCIAL VULNERABILITY OF
ARIZONA FAMILIES.

 

ARIZONA FAMILIES.
AND THAT REPORT FOUND THAT 45%

 

AND THAT REPORT FOUND THAT 45%
OF ARIZONANS LACK THREE MONTHS'

 

OF ARIZONANS LACK THREE MONTHS'
SAVINGS TO COVER THEIR BASIC

 

SAVINGS TO COVER THEIR BASIC
LIVING EXPENSES.

 

LIVING EXPENSES.
SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE

 

SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE
ONE CRISIS AWAY FROM FALLING

 

ONE CRISIS AWAY FROM FALLING
INTO POVERTY.

 

INTO POVERTY.
>> SO THAT'S NEARLY HALF THE

 

>> SO THAT'S NEARLY HALF THE
POPULATION.

 

POPULATION.
>> NEARLY HALF.

 

>> NEARLY HALF.
AND THEY PAINT THE PICTURE WITH

 

AND THEY PAINT THE PICTURE WITH
SOME OTHER NUMBERS.

 

SOME OTHER NUMBERS.
FOR INSTANCE, MORE THAN HALF OF

 

FOR INSTANCE, MORE THAN HALF OF
ARIZONA RENTERS ARE CONSIDERED

 

ARIZONA RENTERS ARE CONSIDERED
COST BURDENED, WHICH WOULD MEAN

 

COST BURDENED, WHICH WOULD MEAN
THAT 30% OR MORE OF THEIR INCOME

 

THAT 30% OR MORE OF THEIR INCOME
IS GOING STRAIGHT TO RENT AND

 

IS GOING STRAIGHT TO RENT AND
UTILITIES.

 

UTILITIES.
SO OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A LARGE

 

SO OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A LARGE
SHARE OF A FAMILY'S BUDGET.

 

SHARE OF A FAMILY'S BUDGET.
IF YOU HAVE CHILD CARE EXPENSES

 

IF YOU HAVE CHILD CARE EXPENSES
OR OTHER THINGS, IT CAN REALLY

 

OR OTHER THINGS, IT CAN REALLY
POSE A CHALLENGE.

 

POSE A CHALLENGE.
>> THIS WEEK'S COMPLETE ARIZONA

 

>> THIS WEEK'S COMPLETE ARIZONA
PUBLIC MEDIA SERIES ON POVERTY

 

PUBLIC MEDIA SERIES ON POVERTY
IS ON OUR WEBSITE, AZPM.ORG,

 

IS ON OUR WEBSITE, AZPM.ORG,
ALONG WITH LINKS TO RESOURCES TO

 

ALONG WITH LINKS TO RESOURCES TO
FIND HELP.

 

FIND HELP.
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY

 

THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY
JULY 19th, 2013.

 

JULY 19th, 2013.
FOR "ARIZONA WEEK" I'M MICHAEL

 

FOR "ARIZONA WEEK" I'M MICHAEL
CHIHAK.

 

CHIHAK.
>> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK"

 

>> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK"
IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A

 

IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A
GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL

 

GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL
FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF

 

FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF
ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.

 

ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
SUPPORT.

 

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