WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:24.890 >>> IF THERE WAS ANY BUDGET ACTIVITY THIS WEEK, IT WAS 00:24.892 --> 00:25.924 ACTIVITY THIS WEEK, IT WAS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. 00:25.926 --> 00:27.159 BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. >> WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET 00:27.161 --> 00:28.060 >> WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET LINE BY LINE. 00:28.062 --> 00:30.696 LINE BY LINE. >> THAT DIDN'T STOP GOVERNOR JAN 00:30.698 --> 00:33.499 >> THAT DIDN'T STOP GOVERNOR JAN BREWER IN HER CRUSADE TO SECURE 00:33.501 --> 00:34.667 BREWER IN HER CRUSADE TO SECURE MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PART OF 00:34.669 --> 00:35.634 MEDICAID EXPANSION AS PART OF THE BUDGET. 00:35.636 --> 00:37.903 THE BUDGET. >> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET 00:37.905 --> 00:39.071 >> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE. 00:39.073 --> 00:42.241 WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE. SO WE GOT TO GET THE MEDICAID 00:42.243 --> 00:44.576 SO WE GOT TO GET THE MEDICAID THING SQUARED AWAY, GET THE 00:44.578 --> 00:45.978 THING SQUARED AWAY, GET THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, AND THE 00:45.980 --> 00:47.613 BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, AND THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, 00:47.615 --> 00:49.548 BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, EDUCATION -- HIGHER EDUCATION, 00:49.550 --> 00:51.083 EDUCATION -- HIGHER EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL THOSE THINGS 00:51.085 --> 00:54.520 PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE ALL DEPEND UPON. 00:54.522 --> 00:57.623 THAT WE ALL DEPEND UPON. >> THE GOVERNOR APPLIES MEDICAID 00:57.625 --> 01:00.526 >> THE GOVERNOR APPLIES MEDICAID PRESSURE BY TAKING HER CAMPAIGN 01:00.528 --> 01:00.926 PRESSURE BY TAKING HER CAMPAIGN ON THE ROAD. 01:00.928 --> 01:04.363 ON THE ROAD. IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." 01:04.365 --> 01:06.498 IT'S "ARIZONA WEEK." >>> PRODUCTION MADE IN PART BY 01:06.500 --> 01:08.200 >>> PRODUCTION MADE IN PART BY THE STONE WALL FOUNDATION AND 01:08.202 --> 01:09.868 THE STONE WALL FOUNDATION AND MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. 01:09.870 --> 01:10.569 MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED 01:10.571 --> 01:15.641 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. 01:15.643 --> 01:26.952 >> ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR, MICHAEL CHIHAK. 01:26.954 --> 01:29.188 MICHAEL CHIHAK. >> NO MEDICAID, NO BUDGET. 01:29.190 --> 01:31.457 >> NO MEDICAID, NO BUDGET. THE LINE IN THE STAND THAT 01:31.459 --> 01:35.094 THE LINE IN THE STAND THAT GOVERNOR BREWER IS RELYING ON TO 01:35.096 --> 01:37.463 GOVERNOR BREWER IS RELYING ON TO HELP RELUCTANT REPUBLICANS IN 01:37.465 --> 01:38.764 HELP RELUCTANT REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE. 01:38.766 --> 01:40.532 THE LEGISLATURE. >> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET 01:40.534 --> 01:41.367 >> WE CANNOT MOVE THE BUDGET WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE. 01:41.369 --> 01:44.136 WITHOUT THIS INITIATIVE. SO WE HAVE TO GET THE MEDICAID 01:44.138 --> 01:46.071 SO WE HAVE TO GET THE MEDICAID THING SQUARED AWAY, THE BUDGET 01:46.073 --> 01:47.973 THING SQUARED AWAY, THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY AND BY GETTING THE 01:47.975 --> 01:51.076 SQUARED AWAY AND BY GETTING THE BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, WE HAVE 01:51.078 --> 01:52.311 BUDGET SQUARED AWAY, WE HAVE EDUCATION, HIGHER EDUCATION, 01:52.313 --> 01:53.879 EDUCATION, HIGHER EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL OF THE THINGS 01:53.881 --> 01:56.815 PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL OF THE THINGS WE ALL DEPEND UPON, SO WE CAN 01:56.817 --> 01:57.483 WE ALL DEPEND UPON, SO WE CAN HAVE THAT MONEY THERE TO DO 01:57.485 --> 01:58.550 HAVE THAT MONEY THERE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ARIZONA. 01:58.552 --> 02:00.185 WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ARIZONA. >> BREWER IN TUCSON THIS WEEK 02:00.187 --> 02:02.287 >> BREWER IN TUCSON THIS WEEK FOR A RALLY WITH LEADERS OF 02:02.289 --> 02:03.722 FOR A RALLY WITH LEADERS OF SOUTHERN ARIZONA'S HEALTH CARE 02:03.724 --> 02:04.690 SOUTHERN ARIZONA'S HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY AND THE BUSINESS 02:04.692 --> 02:06.925 INDUSTRY AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, PUSHING EXPANSION OF 02:06.927 --> 02:08.127 COMMUNITY, PUSHING EXPANSION OF MEDICAID UNDER THE AFFORDABLE 02:08.129 --> 02:08.661 MEDICAID UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. 02:08.663 --> 02:11.263 CARE ACT. SHE SAYS IT WILL BRING THE STATE 02:11.265 --> 02:13.966 SHE SAYS IT WILL BRING THE STATE BILLIONS IN FEDERAL DOLLARS, 02:13.968 --> 02:15.634 BILLIONS IN FEDERAL DOLLARS, PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR 300,000 02:15.636 --> 02:17.770 PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR 300,000 PEOPLE AND CREATE THOUSANDS OF 02:17.772 --> 02:18.070 PEOPLE AND CREATE THOUSANDS OF JOBS. 02:18.072 --> 02:21.707 JOBS. >> I DELIBERATED LONG AND HARD. 02:21.709 --> 02:22.675 >> I DELIBERATED LONG AND HARD. I KNEW IT WOULD BE A FIRESTORM, 02:22.677 --> 02:24.109 I KNEW IT WOULD BE A FIRESTORM, I WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. 02:24.111 --> 02:25.844 I WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE ALL PAY FEDERAL TAXES, SEND 02:25.846 --> 02:27.146 WE ALL PAY FEDERAL TAXES, SEND IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND 02:27.148 --> 02:28.747 IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING 02:28.749 --> 02:33.218 THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS BACK IN 02:33.220 --> 02:35.454 THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS BACK IN INTO -- INTO ARIZONA AND PUT IT 02:35.456 --> 02:38.323 INTO -- INTO ARIZONA AND PUT IT TO GOOD USE IT WILL SAVE RURAL 02:38.325 --> 02:40.059 TO GOOD USE IT WILL SAVE RURAL HOSPITALS FROM CLOSING DOWN IT 02:40.061 --> 02:41.560 HOSPITALS FROM CLOSING DOWN IT WILL HELP LARGER HOSPITALS, 02:41.562 --> 02:43.228 WILL HELP LARGER HOSPITALS, ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES 02:43.230 --> 02:45.564 ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THOSE THAT NEED THEM IN THIS 02:45.566 --> 02:46.965 TO THOSE THAT NEED THEM IN THIS COMMUNITY AND BUILD JOBS AND 02:46.967 --> 02:48.701 COMMUNITY AND BUILD JOBS AND WON'T COST A PENNY TO DELIVER 02:48.703 --> 02:50.102 WON'T COST A PENNY TO DELIVER SERVICES TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE. 02:50.104 --> 02:52.037 SERVICES TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 02:52.039 --> 02:54.106 IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. >> AT THE RALLY, HELD AT TUCSON 02:54.108 --> 02:56.742 >> AT THE RALLY, HELD AT TUCSON MEDICAL CENTER, BREWER REJECTED 02:56.744 --> 03:01.680 MEDICAL CENTER, BREWER REJECTED ARIZONA HOUSE SPEAKER'S PROPOSED 03:01.682 --> 03:04.049 ARIZONA HOUSE SPEAKER'S PROPOSED REFUSE RIPPED UM ON MEDICATION 03:04.051 --> 03:05.017 REFUSE RIPPED UM ON MEDICATION EXPANSION THIS FALL. 03:05.019 --> 03:07.653 EXPANSION THIS FALL. >> THE EASY WAY OUT, WHEN TOUGH 03:07.655 --> 03:09.321 >> THE EASY WAY OUT, WHEN TOUGH THINGS ON THE TABLE IS TO PUNT, 03:09.323 --> 03:11.924 THINGS ON THE TABLE IS TO PUNT, SEND IT TO THE VOTERS, I BELIEVE 03:11.926 --> 03:13.225 SEND IT TO THE VOTERS, I BELIEVE IN THE INITIATIVE PROCESS, IN 03:13.227 --> 03:14.960 IN THE INITIATIVE PROCESS, IN THE REFERENDUM PROCESS, THAT'S A 03:14.962 --> 03:18.030 THE REFERENDUM PROCESS, THAT'S A WAY YOU CAN GET THINGS DONE, BUT 03:18.032 --> 03:19.631 WAY YOU CAN GET THINGS DONE, BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON 03:19.633 --> 03:22.368 THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY OUR LEGISLATURE CANNOT GET 03:22.370 --> 03:24.269 WHY OUR LEGISLATURE CANNOT GET THIS PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE AND 03:24.271 --> 03:25.404 THIS PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE AND REVOTED IN THE SENATE AND GET 03:25.406 --> 03:26.238 REVOTED IN THE SENATE AND GET THE JOB DONE. 03:26.240 --> 03:27.272 THE JOB DONE. IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 03:27.274 --> 03:28.741 IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. >> THE HOUSE IS EXPECTED TO 03:28.743 --> 03:30.676 >> THE HOUSE IS EXPECTED TO DEBATE THE ISSUE NEXT WEEK. 03:30.678 --> 03:32.344 DEBATE THE ISSUE NEXT WEEK. FOR THAT REASON, BREWER TOLD 03:32.346 --> 03:34.279 FOR THAT REASON, BREWER TOLD MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE AT THE 03:34.281 --> 03:35.147 MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE AT THE RALLY -- 03:35.149 --> 03:36.682 RALLY -- >> IF THEY TAKE IT TO THE 03:36.684 --> 03:39.318 >> IF THEY TAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC, THEN THERE WILL BE ALL 03:39.320 --> 03:41.120 PUBLIC, THEN THERE WILL BE ALL KINDS, I BELIEVE, OF CONTROVERSY 03:41.122 --> 03:41.854 KINDS, I BELIEVE, OF CONTROVERSY OUT THERE. 03:41.856 --> 03:44.156 OUT THERE. IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION. 03:44.158 --> 03:46.825 IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION. AND ETHAN TALKED ABOUT SOME 03:46.827 --> 03:49.595 AND ETHAN TALKED ABOUT SOME MYTHS AND ALWAYS TALK, MEDICARE 03:49.597 --> 03:53.165 MYTHS AND ALWAYS TALK, MEDICARE ACCESS MEDICAID IS OUR ACCESS 03:53.167 --> 03:53.532 ACCESS MEDICAID IS OUR ACCESS PROGRAM. 03:53.534 --> 03:54.800 PROGRAM. MEDICAID HAS BEEN AROUND 03:54.802 --> 03:56.935 MEDICAID HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER, BUT THEY WANT TO CALL 03:56.937 --> 03:59.571 FOREVER, BUT THEY WANT TO CALL IT OBAMA CARE, BECAUSE FOR SOME 03:59.573 --> 04:00.673 IT OBAMA CARE, BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THEY LIKE TO PUT 04:00.675 --> 04:02.708 REASON THEY LIKE TO PUT EVERYTHING UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. 04:02.710 --> 04:05.010 EVERYTHING UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. OBAMA CARE IS THAT BIG UMBRELLA, 04:05.012 --> 04:08.414 OBAMA CARE IS THAT BIG UMBRELLA, AND A TINY PORTION OF IT IS THE 04:08.416 --> 04:10.549 AND A TINY PORTION OF IT IS THE MEDICAID, OUR ACCESS PROGRAM. 04:10.551 --> 04:14.319 MEDICAID, OUR ACCESS PROGRAM. WHICH WAS HERE LONG BEFORE OBAMA 04:14.321 --> 04:15.587 WHICH WAS HERE LONG BEFORE OBAMA HEALTH CARE. 04:15.589 --> 04:17.523 HEALTH CARE. AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, 04:17.525 --> 04:19.625 AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, SERVICES, EARLY ON, FOR THOSE OF 04:19.627 --> 04:21.527 SERVICES, EARLY ON, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO 04:21.529 --> 04:23.796 YOU THAT ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE 04:23.798 --> 04:24.863 REMEMBER, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOCTOR, THE COUNTY 04:24.865 --> 04:26.632 NEIGHBORHOOD DOCTOR, THE COUNTY TOOK OVER, STARTED DELIVERING 04:26.634 --> 04:29.335 TOOK OVER, STARTED DELIVERING SERVICES AND WE STEPPED UP, AND 04:29.337 --> 04:30.803 SERVICES AND WE STEPPED UP, AND THE LAST STATE IN THE UNION TO 04:30.805 --> 04:32.237 THE LAST STATE IN THE UNION TO ADOPT A MEDICAID. 04:32.239 --> 04:34.673 ADOPT A MEDICAID. AND WE DID IT, WE DID IT WELL. 04:34.675 --> 04:36.241 AND WE DID IT, WE DID IT WELL. WE'RE NOW THE GOLD STANDARD. 04:36.243 --> 04:37.976 WE'RE NOW THE GOLD STANDARD. WE DELIVER IT BETTER, WE DELIVER 04:37.978 --> 04:39.812 WE DELIVER IT BETTER, WE DELIVER IT MORE EFFECTIVELY AND WE 04:39.814 --> 04:41.847 IT MORE EFFECTIVELY AND WE DELIVER IT LESS EXPENSIVELY, 04:41.849 --> 04:44.283 DELIVER IT LESS EXPENSIVELY, THAN THE MAJORITY OF EVERY STATE 04:44.285 --> 04:45.751 THAN THE MAJORITY OF EVERY STATE IN THIS COUNTRY OF OURS, THEY 04:45.753 --> 04:46.518 IN THIS COUNTRY OF OURS, THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING TO ARIZONA TO 04:46.520 --> 04:51.657 SHOULD BE LOOKING TO ARIZONA TO IMPLEMENT. 04:51.659 --> 04:54.059 IMPLEMENT. >> WE JUST NEED EVERYBODY ON 04:54.061 --> 04:55.461 >> WE JUST NEED EVERYBODY ON BOARD, GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT 04:55.463 --> 04:57.162 BOARD, GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT AND CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS AND 04:57.164 --> 04:59.798 AND CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS AND T@ THEM, WE CAN'T -- WE 04:59.800 --> 05:02.167 T@ THEM, WE CAN'T -- WE ELECTED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB, NOW 05:02.169 --> 05:03.002 ELECTED YOU TO DO YOUR JOB, NOW DO IT! 05:03.004 --> 05:06.505 DO IT! >> AFTERWARD, THE GOVERNOR TOLD 05:06.507 --> 05:07.239 >> AFTERWARD, THE GOVERNOR TOLD REPORTERS WHY SHE IS PUSHING SO 05:07.241 --> 05:09.708 REPORTERS WHY SHE IS PUSHING SO HARD AND HOW SHE SEES THE 05:09.710 --> 05:10.042 HARD AND HOW SHE SEES THE CHANCES. 05:10.044 --> 05:13.679 CHANCES. >> SOME SAY THAT THIS IS A 05:13.681 --> 05:14.880 >> SOME SAY THAT THIS IS A LEGACY STANCE ON YOUR PART AND 05:14.882 --> 05:16.515 LEGACY STANCE ON YOUR PART AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT 05:16.517 --> 05:19.718 THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THE VOTE ON MEDICAID. 05:19.720 --> 05:21.620 AS FAR AS THE VOTE ON MEDICAID. IS PRESERVING YOUR LEGACY. 05:21.622 --> 05:25.057 IS PRESERVING YOUR LEGACY. >> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT IS THE 05:25.059 --> 05:26.792 >> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ARIZONA. 05:26.794 --> 05:28.127 RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ARIZONA. IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT 05:28.129 --> 05:29.828 IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A LEGACY. 05:29.830 --> 05:31.363 WILL PROBABLY BE A LEGACY. WILL CHANGE THE -- THE LANDSCAPE 05:31.365 --> 05:33.632 WILL CHANGE THE -- THE LANDSCAPE OF ARIZONA FOR THE BETTER. 05:33.634 --> 05:35.334 OF ARIZONA FOR THE BETTER. AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT 05:35.336 --> 05:37.536 AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT I'VE RECEIVED ON IT, BUT I'M 05:37.538 --> 05:38.937 I'VE RECEIVED ON IT, BUT I'M COMMITTED AND WILL GET IT DONE. 05:38.939 --> 05:40.139 COMMITTED AND WILL GET IT DONE. >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE 05:40.141 --> 05:43.876 >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE HOUSE IN WHAT THEY ARE COMING -- 05:43.878 --> 05:45.377 HOUSE IN WHAT THEY ARE COMING -- >> I MET WITH THE SPEAKER AND 05:45.379 --> 05:47.579 >> I MET WITH THE SPEAKER AND HIS STAFF AND MY STAFF HAS MET A 05:47.581 --> 05:49.481 HIS STAFF AND MY STAFF HAS MET A LOT WITH THEIR STAFF, AND WE ARE 05:49.483 --> 05:52.384 LOT WITH THEIR STAFF, AND WE ARE HOPEFUL WE CAN COME TO AN 05:52.386 --> 05:53.819 HOPEFUL WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT, A PLAN TO GET IT OUT 05:53.821 --> 05:55.087 AGREEMENT, A PLAN TO GET IT OUT OF HOUSE AND BACK TO THE SENATE. 05:55.089 --> 05:57.156 OF HOUSE AND BACK TO THE SENATE. >> IS THE OPPOSITION ECONOMIC OR 05:57.158 --> 06:01.627 >> IS THE OPPOSITION ECONOMIC OR IS THE OPPOSITION MORE 06:01.629 --> 06:01.994 IS THE OPPOSITION MORE POLITICAL? 06:01.996 --> 06:04.430 POLITICAL? >> I THINK U.S.IT'S A LITTLE BI 06:04.432 --> 06:04.763 >> I THINK U.S.IT'S A LITTLE BI BOTH. 06:04.765 --> 06:06.498 BOTH. I THINK THAT THEY ARE WORRIED 06:06.500 --> 06:07.633 I THINK THAT THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT. 06:07.635 --> 06:09.935 ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT. A COMPLEX ISSUE TO EXPLAIN TO 06:09.937 --> 06:10.903 A COMPLEX ISSUE TO EXPLAIN TO CONSTITUENTS AND THEY WANT TO 06:10.905 --> 06:12.838 CONSTITUENTS AND THEY WANT TO EQUATE IT TO OBAMA CARE. 06:12.840 --> 06:15.307 EQUATE IT TO OBAMA CARE. A LITTLE PIECE OF OBAMA CARE, 06:15.309 --> 06:15.674 A LITTLE PIECE OF OBAMA CARE, MEDICAID. 06:15.676 --> 06:17.576 MEDICAID. MEDICAID WAS HERE A LONG TIME 06:17.578 --> 06:20.879 MEDICAID WAS HERE A LONG TIME BEFORE OBAMA CARE, AND SO IT IS 06:20.881 --> 06:21.246 BEFORE OBAMA CARE, AND SO IT IS DIFFICULT. 06:21.248 --> 06:23.582 DIFFICULT. DIFFICULT FOR ME. 06:23.584 --> 06:25.351 DIFFICULT FOR ME. >> HOW DIFFICULT HAS THE 06:25.353 --> 06:27.986 >> HOW DIFFICULT HAS THE DECISION BEEN FOR GOP LAWMAKERS? 06:27.988 --> 06:30.155 DECISION BEEN FOR GOP LAWMAKERS? HERE TO TELL US, REPRESENTATIVE 06:30.157 --> 06:32.725 HERE TO TELL US, REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN OR FROM TUCSON'S NORTH 06:32.727 --> 06:34.193 ETHAN OR FROM TUCSON'S NORTH SIDE DISTRICT NINE. 06:34.195 --> 06:35.094 SIDE DISTRICT NINE. WELCOME, REPRESENTATIVE OR. 06:35.096 --> 06:35.961 WELCOME, REPRESENTATIVE OR. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. 06:35.963 --> 06:39.865 >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO BE 06:39.867 --> 06:41.033 I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO BE HERE. 06:41.035 --> 06:42.534 HERE. YOU SUPPORT MEDICAID EXPANSION. 06:42.536 --> 06:44.069 YOU SUPPORT MEDICAID EXPANSION. WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT HAVE YOU 06:44.071 --> 06:44.403 WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT HAVE YOU GOTTEN? 06:44.405 --> 06:46.638 GOTTEN? >> ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE, 06:46.640 --> 06:48.140 >> ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE, A VERY PASSIONATE DISCUSSION 06:48.142 --> 06:48.841 A VERY PASSIONATE DISCUSSION WHICH IS GOOD. 06:48.843 --> 06:50.509 WHICH IS GOOD. THIS IS ONE OF THE FARTHEST 06:50.511 --> 06:52.578 THIS IS ONE OF THE FARTHEST REACHING POLICIES WE'LL MAKE 06:52.580 --> 06:54.213 REACHING POLICIES WE'LL MAKE VOTE ON CERTAINLY THIS YEAR, IF 06:54.215 --> 06:55.614 VOTE ON CERTAINLY THIS YEAR, IF NOT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, SO I 06:55.616 --> 06:57.816 NOT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, SO I EXPECT A ROBUST DEBATE ON BOTH 06:57.818 --> 06:58.150 EXPECT A ROBUST DEBATE ON BOTH SIDES. 06:58.152 --> 06:59.818 SIDES. THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF MY 06:59.820 --> 07:01.353 THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF MY CAUCUS THAT OPPOSE IT AND HAVE 07:01.355 --> 07:02.287 CAUCUS THAT OPPOSE IT AND HAVE LET ME KNOW. 07:02.289 --> 07:03.856 LET ME KNOW. >> AND YOU SAID AT THE RALLY 07:03.858 --> 07:06.191 >> AND YOU SAID AT THE RALLY THIS WEEK HERE IN TUCSON, WITH 07:06.193 --> 07:09.628 THIS WEEK HERE IN TUCSON, WITH GOVERNOR BREWER, THAT YOU ARE 07:09.630 --> 07:11.230 GOVERNOR BREWER, THAT YOU ARE AMONG EIGHT REPUBLICANS IN THE 07:11.232 --> 07:12.431 AMONG EIGHT REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE THAT SUPPORT THIS, 07:12.433 --> 07:14.566 HOUSE THAT SUPPORT THIS, COMBINED WITH THE FULL 07:14.568 --> 07:16.301 COMBINED WITH THE FULL DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, THAT'S A 07:16.303 --> 07:16.669 DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS, THAT'S A MAJORITY. 07:16.671 --> 07:17.002 MAJORITY. >> YES. 07:17.004 --> 07:18.904 >> YES. >> HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO MOVE 07:18.906 --> 07:19.672 >> HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? 07:19.674 --> 07:20.773 FORWARD WITH THAT? >> THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING 07:20.775 --> 07:22.374 >> THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON. 07:22.376 --> 07:23.575 WE'RE WORKING ON. WORKING WITH HEATHER CARTER, 07:23.577 --> 07:24.743 WORKING WITH HEATHER CARTER, CHAIR OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE 07:24.745 --> 07:26.311 CHAIR OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, TO FIGURE OUT HOW 07:26.313 --> 07:27.546 RIGHT NOW, TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS MOVES TO THE FLOOR. 07:27.548 --> 07:29.081 THIS MOVES TO THE FLOOR. AS YOU KNOW, THE SENATE PASSED 07:29.083 --> 07:31.016 AS YOU KNOW, THE SENATE PASSED THIS LAST WEEK, TRANSMITTED THE 07:31.018 --> 07:34.286 THIS LAST WEEK, TRANSMITTED THE BUDGET TO THE HOUSE, HAS SEVERAL 07:34.288 --> 07:35.154 BUDGET TO THE HOUSE, HAS SEVERAL ROUTES IT COULD GO. 07:35.156 --> 07:37.222 ROUTES IT COULD GO. IT COULD GO THROUGH 07:37.224 --> 07:38.824 IT COULD GO THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS, END UP ON THE 07:38.826 --> 07:40.292 APPROPRIATIONS, END UP ON THE FLOOR, MAY BE OTHER WAYS TO GET 07:40.294 --> 07:41.627 FLOOR, MAY BE OTHER WAYS TO GET IT TO THE FLOOR AS WELL. 07:41.629 --> 07:44.596 IT TO THE FLOOR AS WELL. AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE ON MEDICAID 07:44.598 --> 07:45.464 AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE ON MEDICAID WILL HAPPEN. 07:45.466 --> 07:48.200 WILL HAPPEN. >> DO WE EXPECT ACTION ON THAT 07:48.202 --> 07:48.767 >> DO WE EXPECT ACTION ON THAT NEXT WEEK? 07:48.769 --> 07:50.636 NEXT WEEK? >> A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT 07:50.638 --> 07:51.570 >> A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT JUST MEDICAID. 07:51.572 --> 07:54.540 JUST MEDICAID. THE ENTIRE STATE BUDGET, ABOUT 07:54.542 --> 07:55.541 THE ENTIRE STATE BUDGET, ABOUT 8$8.7 BILLION. 07:55.543 --> 07:56.909 8$8.7 BILLION. SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF 07:56.911 --> 07:58.277 SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS THERE, THOSE WILL 07:58.279 --> 08:00.379 DISCUSSIONS THERE, THOSE WILL CONTINUE, I THINK YOU WILL SEE 08:00.381 --> 08:01.680 CONTINUE, I THINK YOU WILL SEE COMMITTEE HEARINGS NEXT WEEK AND 08:01.682 --> 08:03.382 COMMITTEE HEARINGS NEXT WEEK AND PROBABLY A VOTE BY THE ENTIRE 08:03.384 --> 08:04.283 PROBABLY A VOTE BY THE ENTIRE HOUSE THE WEEK AFTER? 08:04.285 --> 08:05.351 HOUSE THE WEEK AFTER? >> THE WEEK AFTER. 08:05.353 --> 08:06.852 >> THE WEEK AFTER. SO ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND 08:06.854 --> 08:09.188 SO ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND IT HAS TO GO TO THE SENATE WE 08:09.190 --> 08:09.988 IT HAS TO GO TO THE SENATE WE ASSUME, RIGHT? 08:09.990 --> 08:10.589 ASSUME, RIGHT? >> YES. 08:10.591 --> 08:12.958 >> YES. WHAT I ASSUMED TALKING TO 08:12.960 --> 08:14.326 WHAT I ASSUMED TALKING TO SENATORS, AS LONG AS THERE ARE 08:14.328 --> 08:15.427 SENATORS, AS LONG AS THERE ARE NOT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, THEY 08:15.429 --> 08:17.963 NOT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, THEY WILL CONCUR, WHICH WILL MOVE IT 08:17.965 --> 08:19.798 WILL CONCUR, WHICH WILL MOVE IT VERY RAPIDLY TO THE GOVERNOR. 08:19.800 --> 08:21.934 VERY RAPIDLY TO THE GOVERNOR. >> WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS WEEK IN 08:21.936 --> 08:23.302 >> WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS WEEK IN THE HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO 08:23.304 --> 08:26.405 THE HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO MEDICAID AND THE BUDGET? 08:26.407 --> 08:27.573 MEDICAID AND THE BUDGET? WAS IT BEHIND THE SCENES? 08:27.575 --> 08:29.775 WAS IT BEHIND THE SCENES? >> IT WAS. 08:29.777 --> 08:32.111 >> IT WAS. THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WENT 08:32.113 --> 08:33.545 THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET LINE 08:33.547 --> 08:34.246 THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET LINE BY LINE. 08:34.248 --> 08:36.382 BY LINE. AND ONE THING THAT TOUCHED ME, 08:36.384 --> 08:37.249 AND ONE THING THAT TOUCHED ME, REPRESENTATIVE CAVANAUGH, 08:37.251 --> 08:38.517 REPRESENTATIVE CAVANAUGH, AGAINST THE MEDICAID, AND HE 08:38.519 --> 08:40.252 AGAINST THE MEDICAID, AND HE SAID, LOOK, THIS DECISION HAS 08:40.254 --> 08:43.055 SAID, LOOK, THIS DECISION HAS TORN OUR CAUCUS, TORN OUR STATE 08:43.057 --> 08:43.355 TORN OUR CAUCUS, TORN OUR STATE APART. 08:43.357 --> 08:44.990 APART. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN WE 08:44.992 --> 08:45.991 NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN WE VOTE, IT IS OVER. 08:45.993 --> 08:47.493 VOTE, IT IS OVER. AND WE COME BACK TOGETHER AND 08:47.495 --> 08:49.628 AND WE COME BACK TOGETHER AND WE'RE A CAUCUS AGAIN AND THAT'S 08:49.630 --> 08:51.130 WE'RE A CAUCUS AGAIN AND THAT'S KIND OF THE SENTIMENT I HAVE FOR 08:51.132 --> 08:52.264 KIND OF THE SENTIMENT I HAVE FOR THE STATE. 08:52.266 --> 08:55.768 THE STATE. IT'S VERY DIVISIVE, DIFFICULT 08:55.770 --> 08:56.969 IT'S VERY DIVISIVE, DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT ONCE IT'S OVER, 08:56.971 --> 08:57.569 DECISION, BUT ONCE IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER. 08:57.571 --> 08:58.904 IT'S OVER. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE 08:58.906 --> 09:01.306 >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. 09:01.308 --> 09:02.741 QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. LET'S TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT A 09:02.743 --> 09:04.243 LET'S TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT A PROPOSAL COMING FROM SPEAKER 09:04.245 --> 09:05.310 PROPOSAL COMING FROM SPEAKER TOBIN IN THE HOUSE. 09:05.312 --> 09:08.013 TOBIN IN THE HOUSE. TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN THE 09:08.015 --> 09:08.313 TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN THE FALL. 09:08.315 --> 09:09.715 FALL. DOES THAT HAVE ANY FUTURE? 09:09.717 --> 09:11.150 DOES THAT HAVE ANY FUTURE? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 09:11.152 --> 09:12.918 >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THE SPEAKER AND I HAD A LONG 09:12.920 --> 09:13.886 THE SPEAKER AND I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT JUST 09:13.888 --> 09:15.354 CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, I TOLD THEM 09:15.356 --> 09:17.823 THIS PAST WEEKEND, I TOLD THEM THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT 09:17.825 --> 09:19.291 THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT REFERENDUM, I DON'T BELIEVE HE 09:19.293 --> 09:20.859 REFERENDUM, I DON'T BELIEVE HE HAS THE VOTES TO DO THE 09:20.861 --> 09:23.529 HAS THE VOTES TO DO THE REFERENDUM AND ONE OF THE THINGS 09:23.531 --> 09:24.797 REFERENDUM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I TOLD HIM THAT REALLY MATTERED 09:24.799 --> 09:27.199 I TOLD HIM THAT REALLY MATTERED TO ME, PEOPLE SENT ME TO PHOENIX 09:27.201 --> 09:28.300 TO ME, PEOPLE SENT ME TO PHOENIX TO MAKE A DECISION. 09:28.302 --> 09:29.335 TO MAKE A DECISION. WE HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION 09:29.337 --> 09:30.469 WE HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE NEED. 09:30.471 --> 09:32.738 WE NEED. LET'S MAKE THE DECISION, 20 09:32.740 --> 09:34.540 LET'S MAKE THE DECISION, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN I'M TELLING 09:34.542 --> 09:36.108 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN I'M TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT MY TIME IN THE 09:36.110 --> 09:38.444 PEOPLE ABOUT MY TIME IN THE LEGISLATURE, I DON'T WANT TO 09:38.446 --> 09:39.578 LEGISLATURE, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND SAY IT 09:39.580 --> 09:40.512 LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND SAY IT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION 09:40.514 --> 09:43.649 WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION WE HAD, SO WE DEFERRED TO THE 09:43.651 --> 09:43.982 WE HAD, SO WE DEFERRED TO THE VOTERS. 09:43.984 --> 09:46.085 VOTERS. I THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO 09:46.087 --> 09:46.418 I THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO DECIDE. 09:46.420 --> 09:48.954 DECIDE. >> YOU SPOKE A MOMENT AGO ABOUT 09:48.956 --> 09:50.055 >> YOU SPOKE A MOMENT AGO ABOUT REPUBLICANS WANTING TO COME BACK 09:50.057 --> 09:51.156 REPUBLICANS WANTING TO COME BACK TOGETHER. 09:51.158 --> 09:52.891 TOGETHER. REPUBLICAN UNITY IS SOMETHING 09:52.893 --> 09:54.059 REPUBLICAN UNITY IS SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS KNOWN 09:54.061 --> 09:55.027 THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS KNOWN FOR OVER THE YEARS. 09:55.029 --> 09:57.830 FOR OVER THE YEARS. WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS THAT HAS 09:57.832 --> 09:59.365 WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS THAT HAS LED TO THE RIFT, IF YOU WILL? 09:59.367 --> 10:02.067 LED TO THE RIFT, IF YOU WILL? >> WELL, AGAIN, IT'S SUCH A HUGE 10:02.069 --> 10:03.769 >> WELL, AGAIN, IT'S SUCH A HUGE DECISION AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS 10:03.771 --> 10:06.071 DECISION AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS FRAMED ORIGINALLY, IT WAS NOT 10:06.073 --> 10:07.573 FRAMED ORIGINALLY, IT WAS NOT FRAMED AS A POLICY DECISION, BUT 10:07.575 --> 10:10.042 FRAMED AS A POLICY DECISION, BUT PEOPLE LATCHED ON, THIS IS OBAMA 10:10.044 --> 10:12.911 PEOPLE LATCHED ON, THIS IS OBAMA CARE, AND, FRANKLY, SOME OF THE 10:12.913 --> 10:14.680 CARE, AND, FRANKLY, SOME OF THE E-MAILS I AM GETTING INTELLIGENT 10:14.682 --> 10:16.281 E-MAILS I AM GETTING INTELLIGENT PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, DON'T 10:16.283 --> 10:18.250 PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, DON'T MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T 10:18.252 --> 10:19.251 MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T TIED TO THIS DECISION. 10:19.253 --> 10:21.020 TIED TO THIS DECISION. I THINK THIS DECISION HAS TAKEN 10:21.022 --> 10:22.821 I THINK THIS DECISION HAS TAKEN ON A LIFE GREATER THAN ITSELF. 10:22.823 --> 10:25.190 ON A LIFE GREATER THAN ITSELF. >> ARE YOU -- ARE YOU CONVINCED 10:25.192 --> 10:27.793 >> ARE YOU -- ARE YOU CONVINCED THAT THE CAUCUS WILL COME BACK 10:27.795 --> 10:30.496 THAT THE CAUCUS WILL COME BACK TOGETHER, BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND 10:30.498 --> 10:32.231 TOGETHER, BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND IN THE SENATE TO BE UNIFIED ON 10:32.233 --> 10:34.333 IN THE SENATE TO BE UNIFIED ON FUTURE ISSUES AND IN FUTURE 10:34.335 --> 10:34.700 FUTURE ISSUES AND IN FUTURE SESSIONS? 10:34.702 --> 10:36.201 SESSIONS? >> I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO 10:36.203 --> 10:38.203 >> I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS AND DO MY 10:38.205 --> 10:39.872 MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS AND DO MY BEST TO MAKE SURE THE ENTIRE 10:39.874 --> 10:40.506 BEST TO MAKE SURE THE ENTIRE HOUSEWORKS TOGETHER. 10:40.508 --> 10:41.807 HOUSEWORKS TOGETHER. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO 10:41.809 --> 10:44.076 ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO BRING TO THE HOUSE, AND WE HAVE 10:44.078 --> 10:48.180 BRING TO THE HOUSE, AND WE HAVE HAD IT UP UNTIL NOW IS A SPACE 10:48.182 --> 10:49.348 HAD IT UP UNTIL NOW IS A SPACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE INTELLIGENT 10:49.350 --> 10:50.949 WHERE WE CAN HAVE INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION, LEGITIMATELY 10:50.951 --> 10:51.984 CONVERSATION, LEGITIMATELY DISAGREE AND SHAKE HANDS AND 10:51.986 --> 10:53.686 DISAGREE AND SHAKE HANDS AND WALK AWAY AND STILL WORK 10:53.688 --> 10:54.053 WALK AWAY AND STILL WORK TOGETHER. 10:54.055 --> 10:56.689 TOGETHER. >> WILL THIS ISSUE COME BACK IN 10:56.691 --> 10:58.557 >> WILL THIS ISSUE COME BACK IN A FEW YEARS, BECAUSE THE SENATE 10:58.559 --> 11:02.494 A FEW YEARS, BECAUSE THE SENATE VERSION HAS IN IT A THREE-YEAR 11:02.496 --> 11:04.063 VERSION HAS IN IT A THREE-YEAR EXPIRATION OR SUN SET. 11:04.065 --> 11:05.898 EXPIRATION OR SUN SET. SUNSETTING IN 2017 I BELIEVE. 11:05.900 --> 11:06.598 SUNSETTING IN 2017 I BELIEVE. >> YES. 11:06.600 --> 11:08.300 >> YES. >> WILL THAT BE IN THE HOUSE 11:08.302 --> 11:08.634 >> WILL THAT BE IN THE HOUSE VERSION? 11:08.636 --> 11:10.369 VERSION? AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU AGREE 11:10.371 --> 11:10.703 AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU AGREE WITH? 11:10.705 --> 11:11.937 WITH? >> I DO SUPPORT THAT. 11:11.939 --> 11:13.906 >> I DO SUPPORT THAT. I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A SUNSET 11:13.908 --> 11:17.576 I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A SUNSET SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM, 11:17.578 --> 11:20.079 SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM, DO WHAT IT SAYS IT IS DOING OR 11:20.081 --> 11:21.347 DO WHAT IT SAYS IT IS DOING OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD COME 11:21.349 --> 11:21.613 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD COME UP. 11:21.615 --> 11:22.948 UP. THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO LOOK 11:22.950 --> 11:24.283 THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT OTHER THINGS WE'LL SEE 11:24.285 --> 11:26.452 AT THAT OTHER THINGS WE'LL SEE IN THE BILL AS WELL, THAT I HAVE 11:26.454 --> 11:28.153 IN THE BILL AS WELL, THAT I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR FROM THE 11:28.155 --> 11:28.520 BEEN PUSHING FOR FROM THE BEGINNING. 11:28.522 --> 11:29.521 BEGINNING. >> WHAT OTHER THINGS COULD 11:29.523 --> 11:31.156 >> WHAT OTHER THINGS COULD HAPPEN IN RELATION TO THE BUDGET 11:31.158 --> 11:32.558 HAPPEN IN RELATION TO THE BUDGET AS A RESULT OF THIS? 11:32.560 --> 11:35.594 AS A RESULT OF THIS? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE 11:35.596 --> 11:36.295 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN PUSHING IN 11:36.297 --> 11:38.764 GOVERNOR HAS BEEN PUSHING IN THIS REGARD IS IT FREES UP SOME 11:38.766 --> 11:40.833 THIS REGARD IS IT FREES UP SOME GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BE USED IN 11:40.835 --> 11:42.601 GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BE USED IN EDUCATION AND PERHAPS OTHER 11:42.603 --> 11:43.936 EDUCATION AND PERHAPS OTHER AREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF 11:43.938 --> 11:45.738 AREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF THE ONES SHE PUSHES. 11:45.740 --> 11:47.573 THE ONES SHE PUSHES. DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE 11:47.575 --> 11:49.074 DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE SPENDING IN THE BUDGET AS A 11:49.076 --> 11:49.775 SPENDING IN THE BUDGET AS A RESULT OF THIS? 11:49.777 --> 11:51.744 RESULT OF THIS? >> I THINK IF -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF 11:51.746 --> 11:54.680 >> I THINK IF -- FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DON'T PASS THE MEDICAID, THE 11:54.682 --> 11:57.182 YOU DON'T PASS THE MEDICAID, THE IMMEDIATE HIT, $57 MILLION, THE 11:57.184 --> 11:58.283 IMMEDIATE HIT, $57 MILLION, THE WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SET 11:58.285 --> 11:59.218 WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SET UP THE FORMULA. 11:59.220 --> 12:00.819 UP THE FORMULA. ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH 12:00.821 --> 12:01.787 ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH THE ORIGINAL SENATE BUDGET 12:01.789 --> 12:02.988 THE ORIGINAL SENATE BUDGET BEFORE THE AMENDMENT AND ONE OF 12:02.990 --> 12:04.790 BEFORE THE AMENDMENT AND ONE OF THE REASONS I'M PUSHING MEDICAID 12:04.792 --> 12:07.526 THE REASONS I'M PUSHING MEDICAID AMONG OTHERS, WE HAVE $450 12:07.528 --> 12:09.461 AMONG OTHERS, WE HAVE $450 MILLION IN THE BANK IF WE DON'T 12:09.463 --> 12:11.797 MILLION IN THE BANK IF WE DON'T DO MEDICAID RESTORATION AND TRY 12:11.799 --> 12:14.166 DO MEDICAID RESTORATION AND TRY TO GO IT ALONE, WITHIN A YEAR 12:14.168 --> 12:15.734 TO GO IT ALONE, WITHIN A YEAR AND A HALF THAT IS AT ZERO. 12:15.736 --> 12:19.338 AND A HALF THAT IS AT ZERO. I'M NOT THE GUY THAT BANKS THE 12:19.340 --> 12:20.739 I'M NOT THE GUY THAT BANKS THE STATE, NOT THE ONE THAT TAKES 12:20.741 --> 12:22.441 STATE, NOT THE ONE THAT TAKES OUR FUND BALANCE TO ZERO IN A 12:22.443 --> 12:23.475 OUR FUND BALANCE TO ZERO IN A CREER AND A HALF. 12:23.477 --> 12:25.811 CREER AND A HALF. >> HOW DO YOU RECONCILE, IN JUST 12:25.813 --> 12:27.646 >> HOW DO YOU RECONCILE, IN JUST A FEW SECONDS THAT WE HAVE LEFT, 12:27.648 --> 12:30.115 A FEW SECONDS THAT WE HAVE LEFT, HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THE 12:30.117 --> 12:31.717 HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THE REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT THIS 12:31.719 --> 12:33.152 REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT THIS ADDS TO FEDERAL FISCAL PROBLEMS? 12:33.154 --> 12:34.687 ADDS TO FEDERAL FISCAL PROBLEMS? >> ONE THING INTERESTING, A 12:34.689 --> 12:36.588 >> ONE THING INTERESTING, A FEDERAL SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE 12:36.590 --> 12:38.524 FEDERAL SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE ENACTED FEDERALLY, IF YOU COULD 12:38.526 --> 12:40.359 ENACTED FEDERALLY, IF YOU COULD SHOW ME BY NOT DOING THIS, A 12:40.361 --> 12:42.594 SHOW ME BY NOT DOING THIS, A SINGLE PERSON'S TAXES WOULD GO 12:42.596 --> 12:43.762 SINGLE PERSON'S TAXES WOULD GO DOWN, OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 12:43.764 --> 12:46.265 DOWN, OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD BORROW A SINGLE LESS 12:46.267 --> 12:47.866 WOULD BORROW A SINGLE LESS DOLLAR, WE'D HAVE A DEBATE. 12:47.868 --> 12:50.669 DOLLAR, WE'D HAVE A DEBATE. COUPLING THE ARGUMENTS TOGETHER 12:50.671 --> 12:51.837 COUPLING THE ARGUMENTS TOGETHER HAVE YOU CREATED A FALSE 12:51.839 --> 12:52.204 HAVE YOU CREATED A FALSE ARGUMENT. 12:52.206 --> 12:54.840 ARGUMENT. >> REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN OR, 12:54.842 --> 12:58.210 >> REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN OR, REPUBLICAN FROM TUCSON'S NINTH 12:58.212 --> 12:58.577 REPUBLICAN FROM TUCSON'S NINTH DISTRICT. 12:58.579 --> 12:59.411 DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. 12:59.413 --> 13:00.646 THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 13:00.648 --> 13:02.781 >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE MUDGE 13:02.783 --> 13:04.683 >> DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE MUDGE LEGISLATIVE SWAY IN ARIZONA, BUT 13:04.685 --> 13:07.786 LEGISLATIVE SWAY IN ARIZONA, BUT LAST WEEK, ALL 13 SENATE 13:07.788 --> 13:10.856 LAST WEEK, ALL 13 SENATE DEMOCRATS, PLUS A HAHNFUL FUHA 13:10.858 --> 13:14.360 DEMOCRATS, PLUS A HAHNFUL FUHA REPUBLICANS, PASSED MEDICAID. 13:14.362 --> 13:17.429 REPUBLICANS, PASSED MEDICAID. WILL IT BE THE SAME IN THE 13:17.431 --> 13:17.796 WILL IT BE THE SAME IN THE HOUSE? 13:17.798 --> 13:19.598 HOUSE? BRUCE WHEELER JOINS US, HE'S 13:19.600 --> 13:20.065 BRUCE WHEELER JOINS US, HE'S HOUSE WHIP. 13:20.067 --> 13:21.100 HOUSE WHIP. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 13:21.102 --> 13:23.068 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> WILL THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS IN 13:23.070 --> 13:25.070 >> WILL THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS IN THE HOUSE STAY UNITED AND SOLID 13:25.072 --> 13:26.205 THE HOUSE STAY UNITED AND SOLID BEHIND MEDICAID EXPANSION? 13:26.207 --> 13:27.673 BEHIND MEDICAID EXPANSION? >> ABSOLUTELY. 13:27.675 --> 13:32.711 >> ABSOLUTELY. PROVIDED THERE ARE NO 13:32.713 --> 13:33.312 PROVIDED THERE ARE NO MISCHIEVOUS MOVES, LIKE 13:33.314 --> 13:33.979 MISCHIEVOUS MOVES, LIKE RIDICULOUS EXTREME ABORTION 13:33.981 --> 13:35.147 RIDICULOUS EXTREME ABORTION LANGUAGE, YES, WE ARE UNITED. 13:35.149 --> 13:36.949 LANGUAGE, YES, WE ARE UNITED. >> TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. 13:36.951 --> 13:39.251 >> TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. ABORTION LANGUAGE, SOME TALK OF 13:39.253 --> 13:40.719 ABORTION LANGUAGE, SOME TALK OF THAT, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT 13:40.721 --> 13:41.020 THAT, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT ISSUE? 13:41.022 --> 13:42.955 ISSUE? >> THE GOVERNOR AND MOST PEOPLE 13:42.957 --> 13:44.223 >> THE GOVERNOR AND MOST PEOPLE CONCERNED ON THIS ISSUE 13:44.225 --> 13:45.891 CONCERNED ON THIS ISSUE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ABORTION 13:45.893 --> 13:47.459 UNDERSTAND THAT THE ABORTION ISSUE ISN'T GOING TO GO 13:47.461 --> 13:48.293 ISSUE ISN'T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. 13:48.295 --> 13:49.528 ANYWHERE. THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY RULED ON 13:49.530 --> 13:51.263 THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY RULED ON THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THAT 13:51.265 --> 13:52.965 THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THAT ISSUE, SO WE THINK THAT IT WILL 13:52.967 --> 13:54.466 ISSUE, SO WE THINK THAT IT WILL NOT BE ON THERE, BUT WE 13:54.468 --> 13:56.635 NOT BE ON THERE, BUT WE ALWAYS -- YOU NEVER KNOW AND SO 13:56.637 --> 13:58.237 ALWAYS -- YOU NEVER KNOW AND SO WE'RE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT 13:58.239 --> 14:00.406 WE'RE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT IF IT COMES UP. 14:00.408 --> 14:02.007 IF IT COMES UP. WE DON'T THINK ABORTION LANGUAGE 14:02.009 --> 14:03.709 WE DON'T THINK ABORTION LANGUAGE WILL BE IN THERE AND, THEREFORE, 14:03.711 --> 14:05.844 WILL BE IN THERE AND, THEREFORE, WE THINK WE ARE UNITED. 14:05.846 --> 14:08.547 WE THINK WE ARE UNITED. >> THE QUICK EXPLAINER WAS THAT 14:08.549 --> 14:10.582 >> THE QUICK EXPLAINER WAS THAT ON FEDERAL RULES, MEDICAID IS 14:10.584 --> 14:14.853 ON FEDERAL RULES, MEDICAID IS ALLOWED TO -- MEDICAID FOR 14:14.855 --> 14:15.587 ALLOWED TO -- MEDICAID FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS ALLOWED, 14:15.589 --> 14:16.488 PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS ALLOWED, IS THAT CORRECT? 14:16.490 --> 14:17.156 IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. 14:17.158 --> 14:19.892 >> THAT'S CORRECT. THE ARGUMENT IS BECAUSE PLANNED 14:19.894 --> 14:21.093 THE ARGUMENT IS BECAUSE PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS INVOLVED IN 14:21.095 --> 14:22.094 PARENTHOOD IS INVOLVED IN PERFORMING ABORTIONS THAT THEY 14:22.096 --> 14:23.595 PERFORMING ABORTIONS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDS FOR 14:23.597 --> 14:25.864 SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDS FOR ANY HEALTH CARE MATTERS AND THE 14:25.866 --> 14:28.000 ANY HEALTH CARE MATTERS AND THE COURTS SAID, NO, NOT AS LONG AS 14:28.002 --> 14:30.369 COURTS SAID, NO, NOT AS LONG AS IT'S A LEGITIMATE HEALTH CARE 14:30.371 --> 14:32.137 IT'S A LEGITIMATE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER, IT CANNOT BE TARGETED 14:32.139 --> 14:34.540 PROVIDER, IT CANNOT BE TARGETED SPECIFICALLY THE WAY THEY WERE 14:34.542 --> 14:35.240 SPECIFICALLY THE WAY THEY WERE LAST YEAR BY THE LEGISLATURE. 14:35.242 --> 14:36.575 LAST YEAR BY THE LEGISLATURE. >> AND THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC 14:36.577 --> 14:39.445 >> AND THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC POSITION AS FAR AS SUPPORTING 14:39.447 --> 14:39.812 POSITION AS FAR AS SUPPORTING MEDICAID. 14:39.814 --> 14:41.046 MEDICAID. AS LONG AS THE LANGUAGE ISN'T IN 14:41.048 --> 14:41.347 AS LONG AS THE LANGUAGE ISN'T IN THERE? 14:41.349 --> 14:42.014 THERE? >> CORRECT. 14:42.016 --> 14:44.717 >> CORRECT. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER THING THAT 14:44.719 --> 14:47.353 >> IS THERE ANY OTHER THING THAT COULD COME UP IN THE AMENDMENT 14:47.355 --> 14:48.220 COULD COME UP IN THE AMENDMENT PROCESS OR IN THE COMMITTEE 14:48.222 --> 14:50.622 PROCESS OR IN THE COMMITTEE PROCESS THAT COULD CAUSE 14:50.624 --> 14:51.790 PROCESS THAT COULD CAUSE DEMOCRATS TO PAUSE? 14:51.792 --> 14:54.860 DEMOCRATS TO PAUSE? >> WELL, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE. 14:54.862 --> 14:56.895 >> WELL, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE. THERE IS SOME COLLATERAL 14:56.897 --> 15:02.935 THERE IS SOME COLLATERAL INSURANCE ISSUES, TORT REFORM, 15:02.937 --> 15:03.369 INSURANCE ISSUES, TORT REFORM, QUOTE-UNQUOTE. 15:03.371 --> 15:04.937 QUOTE-UNQUOTE. WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT 15:04.939 --> 15:06.672 WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT LATELY. 15:06.674 --> 15:08.374 THAT LATELY. WE ARE UNITED ON REACHING ACROSS 15:08.376 --> 15:11.010 WE ARE UNITED ON REACHING ACROSS TO THE OTHER SIDE TO MAKE SURE 15:11.012 --> 15:12.177 TO THE OTHER SIDE TO MAKE SURE NO MAJOR CHANGES WILL TAKE PLACE 15:12.179 --> 15:13.645 NO MAJOR CHANGES WILL TAKE PLACE FROM THE BILLS SENT OVER FROM 15:13.647 --> 15:14.313 FROM THE BILLS SENT OVER FROM THE SENATE. 15:14.315 --> 15:15.614 THE SENATE. THAT'S KEY AND CRITICAL. 15:15.616 --> 15:16.982 THAT'S KEY AND CRITICAL. >> WHEN DO YOU EXPECT MOVEMENT 15:16.984 --> 15:18.617 >> WHEN DO YOU EXPECT MOVEMENT TO BEGIN ON THIS IN THE HOUSE? 15:18.619 --> 15:20.285 TO BEGIN ON THIS IN THE HOUSE? >> WE HOPE SO BY TUESDAY, FIRST 15:20.287 --> 15:22.388 >> WE HOPE SO BY TUESDAY, FIRST DAY WE GO BACK NEXT WEEK, AND 15:22.390 --> 15:24.423 DAY WE GO BACK NEXT WEEK, AND WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHETHER THE 15:24.425 --> 15:26.592 WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHETHER THE BILLS THAT CAME OVER FROM THE 15:26.594 --> 15:28.293 BILLS THAT CAME OVER FROM THE SENATE HAVE TO GO TO THE 15:28.295 --> 15:29.028 SENATE HAVE TO GO TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FIRST. 15:29.030 --> 15:30.496 APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FIRST. IF THEY DO, THEY WILL PROBABLY 15:30.498 --> 15:33.966 IF THEY DO, THEY WILL PROBABLY BE STRIPPED OUT OF MANY 15:33.968 --> 15:35.200 BE STRIPPED OUT OF MANY AMENDMENTS PUT THROUGH IN THE 15:35.202 --> 15:35.534 AMENDMENTS PUT THROUGH IN THE SENATE. 15:35.536 --> 15:38.170 SENATE. THERE ARE M@ANISMS, WE HAVE 15:38.172 --> 15:39.772 THERE ARE M@ANISMS, WE HAVE MAINTAINED THE MAJORITY OF 31 OR 15:39.774 --> 15:41.740 MAINTAINED THE MAJORITY OF 31 OR MORE, WHICH AT THIS POINT WE DO 15:41.742 --> 15:44.143 MORE, WHICH AT THIS POINT WE DO HAVE, FOR THOSE BILLS TO GO ON 15:44.145 --> 15:45.277 HAVE, FOR THOSE BILLS TO GO ON THROUGH THE FLOOR THROUGH 15:45.279 --> 15:46.712 THROUGH THE FLOOR THROUGH DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANEUVERS, 15:46.714 --> 15:48.714 DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANEUVERS, THE PLAN TO PUT THOSE AMENDMENTS 15:48.716 --> 15:50.149 THE PLAN TO PUT THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PASSED IN THE SENATE 15:50.151 --> 15:52.785 THAT WERE PASSED IN THE SENATE BACK ON TO THE BILLS IN THE 15:52.787 --> 15:53.085 BACK ON TO THE BILLS IN THE HOUSE. 15:53.087 --> 15:54.887 HOUSE. >> WHAT ABOUT SPEAKER TOBIN'S 15:54.889 --> 15:56.121 >> WHAT ABOUT SPEAKER TOBIN'S PROPOSAL THAT THIS GO TO THE 15:56.123 --> 15:57.189 PROPOSAL THAT THIS GO TO THE VOTERS IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION 15:57.191 --> 15:58.057 VOTERS IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION IN THE FALL. 15:58.059 --> 15:59.525 IN THE FALL. DOES THAT HAVE ANY LEGS IN THE 15:59.527 --> 15:59.825 DOES THAT HAVE ANY LEGS IN THE HOUSE? 15:59.827 --> 16:01.427 HOUSE? >> I DON'T THINK SO MICHAEL. 16:01.429 --> 16:04.863 >> I DON'T THINK SO MICHAEL. I THINK AT THIS POINT HE -- HE 16:04.865 --> 16:06.799 I THINK AT THIS POINT HE -- HE PROBABLY RECOGNIZES TOO THAT THE 16:06.801 --> 16:08.667 PROBABLY RECOGNIZES TOO THAT THE VOTES JUST AREN'T THERE AND SO 16:08.669 --> 16:10.436 VOTES JUST AREN'T THERE AND SO HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY TRY AND 16:10.438 --> 16:14.206 HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY TRY AND GET SOME CONCESSIONS OUT OF WHAT 16:14.208 --> 16:14.973 GET SOME CONCESSIONS OUT OF WHAT HE WANTS. 16:14.975 --> 16:17.543 HE WANTS. >> WHAT -- WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR 16:17.545 --> 16:20.312 >> WHAT -- WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR THE BUDGET IN THE LARGER SENSE? 16:20.314 --> 16:22.881 THE BUDGET IN THE LARGER SENSE? ANY ROOM MANEUVERING THERE? 16:22.883 --> 16:24.183 ANY ROOM MANEUVERING THERE? THE GOVERNOR SAYS AND THE 16:24.185 --> 16:26.285 THE GOVERNOR SAYS AND THE NUMBERS SHOW COMING OUT OF THE 16:26.287 --> 16:27.953 NUMBERS SHOW COMING OUT OF THE SENATE, THAT INCLUDING THE 16:27.955 --> 16:29.755 SENATE, THAT INCLUDING THE MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE BUDGET 16:29.757 --> 16:31.457 MEDICAID EXPANSION IN THE BUDGET PROVIDES MORE STATE FUNDING IN 16:31.459 --> 16:32.524 PROVIDES MORE STATE FUNDING IN THE FEDERAL FUND. 16:32.526 --> 16:34.526 THE FEDERAL FUND. WILL DEMOCRATS TRY TO PLAY THAT 16:34.528 --> 16:36.462 WILL DEMOCRATS TRY TO PLAY THAT SOMEHOW TO GET MORE FUNDING FOR, 16:36.464 --> 16:37.396 SOMEHOW TO GET MORE FUNDING FOR, SAY, EDUCATION? 16:37.398 --> 16:39.631 SAY, EDUCATION? >> HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK SO, 16:39.633 --> 16:42.501 >> HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK SO, AND THE REASON IS, DEMOCRATS, 16:42.503 --> 16:43.569 AND THE REASON IS, DEMOCRATS, AND BASICALLY HAPPY WITH THE 16:43.571 --> 16:45.371 AND BASICALLY HAPPY WITH THE BILL THAT CAME OVER FROM THE 16:45.373 --> 16:45.704 BILL THAT CAME OVER FROM THE SENATE. 16:45.706 --> 16:47.840 SENATE. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVEN 16:47.842 --> 16:49.608 AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVEN WHEN IT'S A REPUBLICAN TRYING TO 16:49.610 --> 16:52.011 WHEN IT'S A REPUBLICAN TRYING TO ADD THINGS OR TAKE THINGS OFF OR 16:52.013 --> 16:56.882 ADD THINGS OR TAKE THINGS OFF OR THE DEMOCRATS ADDING MORE FOR 16:56.884 --> 16:57.983 THE DEMOCRATS ADDING MORE FOR EDUCATION, THERE SHOULD BE MORE 16:57.985 --> 17:00.352 EDUCATION, THERE SHOULD BE MORE FOR EDUCATION, BUT THERE SHOULD 17:00.354 --> 17:01.820 FOR EDUCATION, BUT THERE SHOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT 17:01.822 --> 17:02.354 BE MORE THAN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW. 17:02.356 --> 17:03.756 NOW. TRYING TO TAMPER ANYTHING 17:03.758 --> 17:05.224 TRYING TO TAMPER ANYTHING FURTHER WOULD JEOPARDIZE 17:05.226 --> 17:06.258 FURTHER WOULD JEOPARDIZE EVERYTHING AND THAT'S NOT A RISK 17:06.260 --> 17:07.192 EVERYTHING AND THAT'S NOT A RISK WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE. 17:07.194 --> 17:08.994 WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE. >> DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD A 17:08.996 --> 17:10.462 >> DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD A MAJORITY ON THE HOUSE OF 17:10.464 --> 17:11.730 MAJORITY ON THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN ARIZONA IN 17:11.732 --> 17:13.098 REPRESENTATIVES IN ARIZONA IN MORE THAN FOUR DECADES. 17:13.100 --> 17:14.400 MORE THAN FOUR DECADES. >> THAT'S CORRECT. 17:14.402 --> 17:15.968 >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, 17:15.970 --> 17:17.102 >> AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, DEMOCRATS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF 17:17.104 --> 17:21.540 DEMOCRATS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME AS FAR AS ARIZONA 17:21.542 --> 17:22.975 THE GAME AS FAR AS ARIZONA POLITICS GO, AND IS THERE A 17:22.977 --> 17:24.343 POLITICS GO, AND IS THERE A DYNAMIC BEING CREATED THAT COULD 17:24.345 --> 17:25.511 DYNAMIC BEING CREATED THAT COULD CARRY INTO OTHEL ISSUES. 17:25.513 --> 17:28.147 CARRY INTO OTHEL ISSUES. >> I WOULD HOPE SO, BUT I TELL 17:28.149 --> 17:30.082 >> I WOULD HOPE SO, BUT I TELL PEOPLE, WE DEMOCRATS ARE FINALLY 17:30.084 --> 17:31.116 PEOPLE, WE DEMOCRATS ARE FINALLY RELEVANT, WE ARE NECESSARY TO 17:31.118 --> 17:33.218 RELEVANT, WE ARE NECESSARY TO GET THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID 17:33.220 --> 17:34.720 GET THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID PROGRAM THROUGH, WE'RE MORE THAN 17:34.722 --> 17:36.622 PROGRAM THROUGH, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. 17:36.624 --> 17:39.458 HAPPY TO DO THAT. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US 17:39.460 --> 17:41.060 EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US CAMPAIGNED HOPING EXPAND 17:41.062 --> 17:44.363 CAMPAIGNED HOPING EXPAND MEDICAID TO 133% TO THE FEDERAL 17:44.365 --> 17:44.963 MEDICAID TO 133% TO THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. 17:44.965 --> 17:47.333 POVERTY LEVEL. THAT IS OUR ISSUE AND WHETHER IT 17:47.335 --> 17:48.534 THAT IS OUR ISSUE AND WHETHER IT TRANSLATES TO COOPERATING AND TO 17:48.536 --> 17:50.636 TRANSLATES TO COOPERATING AND TO OTHER ISSUES, ONE WOULD HOPE SO. 17:50.638 --> 17:53.539 OTHER ISSUES, ONE WOULD HOPE SO. BUT THE DYNAMIC THEN CHANGES, 17:53.541 --> 17:55.474 BUT THE DYNAMIC THEN CHANGES, BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE WON'T BE 17:55.476 --> 17:57.076 BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE WON'T BE DEALING WITH MEDICAID AGAIN AND 17:57.078 --> 18:00.546 DEALING WITH MEDICAID AGAIN AND BACK TO THE SAME ISSUES AND IT'S 18:00.548 --> 18:01.046 BACK TO THE SAME ISSUES AND IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR. 18:01.048 --> 18:02.448 AN ELECTION YEAR. >> ONE OF THE ISSUES IS 18:02.450 --> 18:04.383 >> ONE OF THE ISSUES IS EDUCATION FUNNING, DEMOCRATS 18:04.385 --> 18:05.451 EDUCATION FUNNING, DEMOCRATS PRETTY SOLID ON. 18:05.453 --> 18:07.853 PRETTY SOLID ON. NEEDS TO BE RESTORED, AND 18:07.855 --> 18:08.654 NEEDS TO BE RESTORED, AND REPUBLICANS SAID WE DON'T HAVE 18:08.656 --> 18:09.521 REPUBLICANS SAID WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY YET. 18:09.523 --> 18:11.724 THE MONEY YET. FIRST OF ALL, IS THE MONEY 18:11.726 --> 18:12.124 FIRST OF ALL, IS THE MONEY THERE? 18:12.126 --> 18:13.625 THERE? SECOND, COULD THAT BE AN ISSUE 18:13.627 --> 18:15.327 SECOND, COULD THAT BE AN ISSUE ON WHICH A COALITION, SUCH AS 18:15.329 --> 18:16.195 ON WHICH A COALITION, SUCH AS THIS COULD BE FORMED? 18:16.197 --> 18:17.997 THIS COULD BE FORMED? >> THE MONEY IS THERE. 18:17.999 --> 18:19.431 >> THE MONEY IS THERE. THE COALITION COULD BE FORMED. 18:19.433 --> 18:21.000 THE COALITION COULD BE FORMED. I DON'T KNOW IT WILL BE FORMED, 18:21.002 --> 18:22.368 I DON'T KNOW IT WILL BE FORMED, AND THE MONEY THERE IN THE TUNE 18:22.370 --> 18:24.770 AND THE MONEY THERE IN THE TUNE OF $450 MILLION THERE RIGHT NOW 18:24.772 --> 18:26.972 OF $450 MILLION THERE RIGHT NOW LEFT OVER FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. 18:26.974 --> 18:27.840 LEFT OVER FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. EXCUSE ME. 18:27.842 --> 18:29.942 EXCUSE ME. LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND THERE WILL 18:29.944 --> 18:33.345 LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND THERE WILL BE $716 MILLION LEFT, SURPLUS 18:33.347 --> 18:34.446 BE $716 MILLION LEFT, SURPLUS FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. 18:34.448 --> 18:36.949 FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR. OVER 1$1.1 BILLION. 18:36.951 --> 18:39.151 OVER 1$1.1 BILLION. EVEN IF MEDICAID PASSES, WE 18:39.153 --> 18:42.521 EVEN IF MEDICAID PASSES, WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL, BY 2016, A 18:42.523 --> 18:45.157 ANTICIPATE IT WILL, BY 2016, A SURPLUS -- STRUCTURAL SURPLUS OF 18:45.159 --> 18:48.594 SURPLUS -- STRUCTURAL SURPLUS OF $60 MILLION. 18:48.596 --> 18:50.963 $60 MILLION. WHEREAS IN PRESIDENT BIG'S 18:50.965 --> 18:55.968 WHEREAS IN PRESIDENT BIG'S DEFICIT BILL BY 2016. 18:55.970 --> 18:58.170 DEFICIT BILL BY 2016. FISCAL CONSERVATIVES AND 18:58.172 --> 19:00.673 FISCAL CONSERVATIVES AND CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND MANY 19:00.675 --> 19:02.074 CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND MANY OTHER BUSINESS GROUPS ENDORSE 19:02.076 --> 19:03.742 OTHER BUSINESS GROUPS ENDORSE THE MEDICAID EXPANSION. 19:03.744 --> 19:06.845 THE MEDICAID EXPANSION. >> REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE WHEELER, 19:06.847 --> 19:08.914 >> REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE WHEELER, DEMOCRAT FROM TUCSON'S TENTH 19:08.916 --> 19:09.615 DEMOCRAT FROM TUCSON'S TENTH DISTRICT AND MINORITY WHIP IN 19:09.617 --> 19:10.816 DISTRICT AND MINORITY WHIP IN THE HOUSE, THANK YOU FOR 19:10.818 --> 19:12.117 THE HOUSE, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME. 19:12.119 --> 19:13.285 SPEAKING WITH ME. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR 19:13.287 --> 19:15.220 >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR HAVING ME. 19:15.222 --> 19:20.693 HAVING ME. >>> NOW, LUIGE DELL PUERTO. 19:20.695 --> 19:21.927 >>> NOW, LUIGE DELL PUERTO. WELCOME, LUIGE. 19:21.929 --> 19:23.395 WELCOME, LUIGE. >> THANKS, MICHAEL. 19:23.397 --> 19:24.930 >> THANKS, MICHAEL. >> WILL WE SEE A BREAK THROUGH 19:24.932 --> 19:26.932 >> WILL WE SEE A BREAK THROUGH IN THE HOUSE ANY TIME SOON? 19:26.934 --> 19:28.767 IN THE HOUSE ANY TIME SOON? NEXT WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE 19:28.769 --> 19:30.035 NEXT WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE MEDICAID EXPANSION AND THE 19:30.037 --> 19:30.369 MEDICAID EXPANSION AND THE BUDGET? 19:30.371 --> 19:32.671 BUDGET? >> WELL, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE 19:32.673 --> 19:34.506 >> WELL, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE WILL SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN NEXT 19:34.508 --> 19:36.408 WILL SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN NEXT WEEK. 19:36.410 --> 19:38.010 WEEK. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT -- RIGHT NOW, 19:38.012 --> 19:39.144 IT'S POSSIBLE THAT -- RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S GOING ON? 19:39.146 --> 19:40.946 WHAT'S GOING ON? HOUSE SPEAKER ANDY TOBIN TRYING 19:40.948 --> 19:42.815 HOUSE SPEAKER ANDY TOBIN TRYING TO GET THE VOTES FOR HIS 19:42.817 --> 19:44.950 TO GET THE VOTES FOR HIS ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS 19:44.952 --> 19:47.586 ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS TO SEND THE MEDICAID EXPANSION 19:47.588 --> 19:50.656 TO SEND THE MEDICAID EXPANSION QUESTION TO VOTERS, AND SO HE IS 19:50.658 --> 19:52.124 QUESTION TO VOTERS, AND SO HE IS TRYING TO GET THE VOTES FOR 19:52.126 --> 19:52.424 TRYING TO GET THE VOTES FOR THAT. 19:52.426 --> 19:54.059 THAT. WHAT WE'RE HEARING SO FAR, IT'S 19:54.061 --> 19:55.995 WHAT WE'RE HEARING SO FAR, IT'S NOT THE VOTES IN THIS CHAMBER 19:55.997 --> 19:57.629 NOT THE VOTES IN THIS CHAMBER AND PRETTY MUCH DOA IN THE 19:57.631 --> 19:59.131 AND PRETTY MUCH DOA IN THE SENATE AS WELL. 19:59.133 --> 20:01.433 SENATE AS WELL. >> WHAT -- WHAT DOES HE HAVE 20:01.435 --> 20:01.734 >> WHAT -- WHAT DOES HE HAVE THERE? 20:01.736 --> 20:03.202 THERE? WILL HE GIVE UP ON THAT? 20:03.204 --> 20:05.137 WILL HE GIVE UP ON THAT? OR TRY TO AMEND IN THAT REGARD 20:05.139 --> 20:07.439 OR TRY TO AMEND IN THAT REGARD AND PUSH A BILL THROUGH? 20:07.441 --> 20:10.609 AND PUSH A BILL THROUGH? >> WELL, THERE -- THERE IS 20:10.611 --> 20:12.277 >> WELL, THERE -- THERE IS VARIOUS SPECULATION ABOUT WHAT 20:12.279 --> 20:13.579 VARIOUS SPECULATION ABOUT WHAT SPEAKER TOBIN IS REALLY WANTING 20:13.581 --> 20:15.481 SPEAKER TOBIN IS REALLY WANTING TO DO, AND ONE OF THEM IS HE 20:15.483 --> 20:17.683 TO DO, AND ONE OF THEM IS HE MIGHT JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT HE 20:17.685 --> 20:19.418 MIGHT JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT HE TRIED HIS BEST. 20:19.420 --> 20:21.653 TRIED HIS BEST. YOU KNOW, TO PUSH HIS 20:21.655 --> 20:22.855 YOU KNOW, TO PUSH HIS ALTERNATIVE AND HE WOULD SAY, 20:22.857 --> 20:24.289 ALTERNATIVE AND HE WOULD SAY, OKAY, GUYS, I TRIED. 20:24.291 --> 20:25.958 OKAY, GUYS, I TRIED. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, AND 20:25.960 --> 20:27.393 THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, AND SO THE ONLY OPTION LEFT IS 20:27.395 --> 20:30.195 SO THE ONLY OPTION LEFT IS REALLY THE GOVERNOR'S OPTION. 20:30.197 --> 20:32.998 REALLY THE GOVERNOR'S OPTION. BUT, OF COURSE, HE IS WORKING 20:33.000 --> 20:34.433 BUT, OF COURSE, HE IS WORKING IT, WHAT THE INDICATIONS THAT 20:34.435 --> 20:38.470 IT, WHAT THE INDICATIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS FAR IS THAT 20:38.472 --> 20:41.006 WE'RE GETTING THIS FAR IS THAT THE GROUPS HE HAS SPOKEN TO, 20:41.008 --> 20:42.608 THE GROUPS HE HAS SPOKEN TO, WHILE THEY APPRECIATE ALL THE 20:42.610 --> 20:45.077 WHILE THEY APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS DONE, THAT HE HAS A 20:45.079 --> 20:46.278 EFFORTS DONE, THAT HE HAS A COUNTERPROPOSAL AND TRYING TO 20:46.280 --> 20:48.747 COUNTERPROPOSAL AND TRYING TO RESOLVE THE BIG POLICY DEBATE, 20:48.749 --> 20:50.315 RESOLVE THE BIG POLICY DEBATE, THEY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, 20:50.317 --> 20:53.352 THEY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, BUT ALSO THEY ARE STICKING WITH 20:53.354 --> 20:55.120 BUT ALSO THEY ARE STICKING WITH OR SIDING WITH THE GOVERNOR, AND 20:55.122 --> 21:01.327 OR SIDING WITH THE GOVERNOR, AND THAT'S BASICALLY TO EXPAND THE 21:01.329 --> 21:03.295 THAT'S BASICALLY TO EXPAND THE MEDICAID BY USING A HOSPITAL 21:03.297 --> 21:05.564 MEDICAID BY USING A HOSPITAL ASSESSMENT AND USING REVENUE FOR 21:05.566 --> 21:07.633 ASSESSMENT AND USING REVENUE FOR THOSE TO DRAW DOWN FEDERAL 21:07.635 --> 21:08.100 THOSE TO DRAW DOWN FEDERAL DOLLARS. 21:08.102 --> 21:10.002 DOLLARS. >> THERE IS STILL A GROUP OF 21:10.004 --> 21:11.804 >> THERE IS STILL A GROUP OF REPUBLICANS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO 21:11.806 --> 21:14.073 REPUBLICANS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, 21:14.075 --> 21:15.974 THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, WHETHER IS GOES TO THE BALLOT OR 21:15.976 --> 21:17.543 WHETHER IS GOES TO THE BALLOT OR PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, BUT 21:17.545 --> 21:19.578 PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES AS I 21:19.580 --> 21:20.145 THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES AS I UNDERSTAND IT. 21:20.147 --> 21:22.281 UNDERSTAND IT. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ON THAT? 21:22.283 --> 21:24.149 WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ON THAT? HAVE THEY CONCEDED THAT THEY 21:24.151 --> 21:26.318 HAVE THEY CONCEDED THAT THEY CAN'T STOP IT? 21:26.320 --> 21:27.553 CAN'T STOP IT? >> YEAH. 21:27.555 --> 21:28.921 >> YEAH. MICHAEL, THERE -- THERE ARE 21:28.923 --> 21:31.690 MICHAEL, THERE -- THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY THREE SORT OF 21:31.692 --> 21:33.325 ESSENTIALLY THREE SORT OF OVERARCHING OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE 21:33.327 --> 21:34.760 OVERARCHING OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. 21:34.762 --> 21:39.565 ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. ONE IS SPEAKER TOBIN'S REFERRAL, 21:39.567 --> 21:41.533 ONE IS SPEAKER TOBIN'S REFERRAL, THE OTHER IS FOR THE STATE TO 21:41.535 --> 21:46.538 THE OTHER IS FOR THE STATE TO PAY FOR ACCESS UNDER PROPOSITION 21:46.540 --> 21:47.973 PAY FOR ACCESS UNDER PROPOSITION 204, AND THIRD IS THE GOVERNMENT 21:47.975 --> 21:49.108 204, AND THIRD IS THE GOVERNMENT EXPANSION PLAN. 21:49.110 --> 21:51.143 EXPANSION PLAN. OF THREE PROPOSALS, ONLY ONE HAS 21:51.145 --> 21:52.444 OF THREE PROPOSALS, ONLY ONE HAS THE VOTES THAT WE KNOW OF TO 21:52.446 --> 21:54.313 THE VOTES THAT WE KNOW OF TO PASS AND THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S 21:54.315 --> 21:54.680 PASS AND THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL. 21:54.682 --> 21:57.082 PROPOSAL. >> AND REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN ORR 21:57.084 --> 21:58.884 >> AND REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN ORR TOLD US IN AN INTERVIEW EARLIER 21:58.886 --> 22:00.886 TOLD US IN AN INTERVIEW EARLIER ON THE PROGRAM THAT HE COUNTS 22:00.888 --> 22:04.823 ON THE PROGRAM THAT HE COUNTS EIGHT REPUBLICANS, IN FAVOR OF 22:04.825 --> 22:07.359 EIGHT REPUBLICANS, IN FAVOR OF IT, WHICH GIVES THEM A MAJORITY 22:07.361 --> 22:09.695 IT, WHICH GIVES THEM A MAJORITY OF 32 COMBINED WITH DEMOCRATS. 22:09.697 --> 22:10.696 OF 32 COMBINED WITH DEMOCRATS. WHAT IS YOUR COUNT? 22:10.698 --> 22:12.097 WHAT IS YOUR COUNT? WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? 22:12.099 --> 22:14.466 WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS 22:14.468 --> 22:14.767 >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS WELL. 22:14.769 --> 22:17.369 WELL. EIGHT HOUSE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS 22:17.371 --> 22:20.205 EIGHT HOUSE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS JOINING 24 HOUSE DEMOCRATIC 22:20.207 --> 22:21.740 JOINING 24 HOUSE DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS AND ENOUGH TO GET THE 22:21.742 --> 22:22.608 MEMBERS AND ENOUGH TO GET THE MINIMUM VOTE. 22:22.610 --> 22:26.211 MINIMUM VOTE. 31 IN THE HOUSE TO PASS. 22:26.213 --> 22:26.912 31 IN THE HOUSE TO PASS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECTED AT 22:26.914 --> 22:28.247 AND, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECTED AT LEAST THREE IN THE SENATE, 22:28.249 --> 22:30.082 LEAST THREE IN THE SENATE, TURNED OUT THERE WERE SIX 22:30.084 --> 22:31.684 TURNED OUT THERE WERE SIX REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED FOR THE 22:31.686 --> 22:32.651 REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED FOR THE GOVERNOR'S EXPANSION PLAN. 22:32.653 --> 22:35.654 GOVERNOR'S EXPANSION PLAN. VERY LIKELY WE WOULD SEE NOT 22:35.656 --> 22:36.855 VERY LIKELY WE WOULD SEE NOT EIGHT, BUT PERHAPS MORE THAN 22:36.857 --> 22:38.490 EIGHT, BUT PERHAPS MORE THAN EIGHT EVENTUALLY SUPPORTING THE 22:38.492 --> 22:39.124 EIGHT EVENTUALLY SUPPORTING THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL. 22:39.126 --> 22:41.026 GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL. HERE IS THE OTHER THING TOO. 22:41.028 --> 22:43.062 HERE IS THE OTHER THING TOO. AND IF SPEAKER TOBIN DECIDED 22:43.064 --> 22:44.530 AND IF SPEAKER TOBIN DECIDED THAT THE ONLY OPTION LEFT ON THE 22:44.532 --> 22:47.099 THAT THE ONLY OPTION LEFT ON THE TABLE IS THE GOVERNOR'S 22:47.101 --> 22:48.500 TABLE IS THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL, AND HE IS SOMEHOW ABLE 22:48.502 --> 22:51.437 PROPOSAL, AND HE IS SOMEHOW ABLE TO GET WHAT HE WANTS TO BE 22:51.439 --> 22:53.105 TO GET WHAT HE WANTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL IN THE 22:53.107 --> 22:54.239 INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL IN THE PROPOSAL, WE COULD SEE HIM 22:54.241 --> 22:54.673 PROPOSAL, WE COULD SEE HIM SUPPORTING IT. 22:54.675 --> 22:57.042 SUPPORTING IT. IF HE DID, THERE COULD BE A 22:57.044 --> 22:58.644 IF HE DID, THERE COULD BE A CASCADE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD -- 22:58.646 --> 22:59.912 CASCADE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD -- YOU COULD SEE OTHER MEMBERS AS 22:59.914 --> 23:01.680 YOU COULD SEE OTHER MEMBERS AS WELL SAYING, WELL, OUR 23:01.682 --> 23:02.981 WELL SAYING, WELL, OUR LEADERSHIP IS SUPPORTING IT, WE 23:02.983 --> 23:04.016 LEADERSHIP IS SUPPORTING IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL DO IT. 23:04.018 --> 23:06.552 MIGHT AS WELL DO IT. >> PERHAPS GETTING THAT 2/3 THAT 23:06.554 --> 23:07.686 >> PERHAPS GETTING THAT 2/3 THAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING 23:07.688 --> 23:09.154 EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, SOME PEOPLE SAY IS NEEDED 23:09.156 --> 23:09.888 ABOUT, SOME PEOPLE SAY IS NEEDED TO PASS THIS? 23:09.890 --> 23:11.990 TO PASS THIS? >> WELL, IT'S VERY LIKELY IF THE 23:11.992 --> 23:13.826 >> WELL, IT'S VERY LIKELY IF THE SPEAKER IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE 23:13.828 --> 23:14.193 SPEAKER IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL. 23:14.195 --> 23:16.762 PROPOSAL. I GUESS TO A HUGE EXTENT REALLY 23:16.764 --> 23:20.299 I GUESS TO A HUGE EXTENT REALLY HINGES ON WHAT THE SPEAKER DOES 23:20.301 --> 23:20.566 HINGES ON WHAT THE SPEAKER DOES NOW. 23:20.568 --> 23:22.167 NOW. EVEN IF THEY GET 2/3 IN THE 23:22.169 --> 23:24.136 EVEN IF THEY GET 2/3 IN THE HOUSE AND THAT PROPOSAL IS 23:24.138 --> 23:26.071 HOUSE AND THAT PROPOSAL IS AMENDED THERE, IT HAS TO GO BACK 23:26.073 --> 23:28.240 AMENDED THERE, IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE SENATE FOR CONCURRENCE. 23:28.242 --> 23:30.042 TO THE SENATE FOR CONCURRENCE. AND SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, THEN WE 23:30.044 --> 23:32.111 AND SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER VOTE IN 23:32.113 --> 23:33.746 ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER VOTE IN THE SENATE, AND, OF COURSE, THEY 23:33.748 --> 23:36.281 THE SENATE, AND, OF COURSE, THEY WOULD NEED 20 VOTES TO SATISFY 23:36.283 --> 23:37.416 WOULD NEED 20 VOTES TO SATISFY THE 2/3 MAJORITY. 23:37.418 --> 23:40.586 THE 2/3 MAJORITY. >> THE GOVERNOR EXERCISED HER 23:40.588 --> 23:42.721 >> THE GOVERNOR EXERCISED HER MORATORIUM IF YOU WILL BY 23:42.723 --> 23:44.990 MORATORIUM IF YOU WILL BY VETOING FIVE BILLS THIS WEEK. 23:44.992 --> 23:46.959 VETOING FIVE BILLS THIS WEEK. WHICH IS WHAT SHE PROMISED TO DO 23:46.961 --> 23:49.261 WHICH IS WHAT SHE PROMISED TO DO IF THEY HADN'T PASSED A BUDGET 23:49.263 --> 23:51.597 IF THEY HADN'T PASSED A BUDGET WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION IN IT. 23:51.599 --> 23:54.700 WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION IN IT. DID THAT GET ANYBODY'S 23:54.702 --> 23:55.067 DID THAT GET ANYBODY'S ATTENTION? 23:55.069 --> 23:58.003 ATTENTION? OR HAVE THINGS ALREADY PRETTY 23:58.005 --> 23:58.971 OR HAVE THINGS ALREADY PRETTY MUCH BEEN SETTLED? 23:58.973 --> 24:00.105 MUCH BEEN SETTLED? >> IT'S INTERESTING. 24:00.107 --> 24:02.307 >> IT'S INTERESTING. BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE SORT OF 24:02.309 --> 24:04.376 BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE SORT OF TIME PERIODS. 24:04.378 --> 24:07.780 TIME PERIODS. WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID FIRST, 24:07.782 --> 24:11.984 WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID FIRST, SLOW DOWN. 24:11.986 --> 24:13.018 SLOW DOWN. YOUR PO 24:13.020 --> 24:14.353 YOUR PO YOUR WORK ON PASSING BILLS AND 24:14.355 --> 24:15.621 YOUR WORK ON PASSING BILLS AND SHE SAID UNLESS THERE IS 24:15.623 --> 24:17.823 SHE SAID UNLESS THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THE 24:17.825 --> 24:19.324 SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THE BUDGET, DON'T SEND ME ANY BILLS. 24:19.326 --> 24:21.427 BUDGET, DON'T SEND ME ANY BILLS. THAT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO AND 24:21.429 --> 24:23.062 THAT WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO AND RECENTLY, THIS WEEK, SHE 24:23.064 --> 24:25.864 RECENTLY, THIS WEEK, SHE REITERATED THAT AND SAID UNLESS 24:25.866 --> 24:27.032 REITERATED THAT AND SAID UNLESS YOU MAKE SOME SUBSTANTIAL 24:27.034 --> 24:28.534 YOU MAKE SOME SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THESE TWO ITEMS AND 24:28.536 --> 24:30.269 PROGRESS ON THESE TWO ITEMS AND IN FACT, NOT COUNTING THE 24:30.271 --> 24:32.171 IN FACT, NOT COUNTING THE SENATE'S PASSAGE OF THE MEDICAID 24:32.173 --> 24:34.473 SENATE'S PASSAGE OF THE MEDICAID EXPANSION PLAN AND THEIR BUDGET, 24:34.475 --> 24:37.242 EXPANSION PLAN AND THEIR BUDGET, AS SATISFYING HER REQUESTS OF 24:37.244 --> 24:40.212 AS SATISFYING HER REQUESTS OF HER PLEA, THEN SHE WILL NOT SIGN 24:40.214 --> 24:43.082 HER PLEA, THEN SHE WILL NOT SIGN BILLS, AND THERE WERE SOME WHO 24:43.084 --> 24:46.018 BILLS, AND THERE WERE SOME WHO MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE 24:46.020 --> 24:46.752 MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY 24:46.754 --> 24:47.052 THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. 24:47.054 --> 24:48.620 THERE. I WAS TALKING TO ANDY BIGGS 24:48.622 --> 24:50.155 I WAS TALKING TO ANDY BIGGS YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID, WELL, 24:50.157 --> 24:52.558 YESTERDAY, AND HE SAID, WELL, SHE HAS NOT TOLD ME NOT TO SEND 24:52.560 --> 24:53.692 SHE HAS NOT TOLD ME NOT TO SEND HER UP BILLS. 24:53.694 --> 24:55.494 HER UP BILLS. YESTERDAY, THE GOVERNOR MADE 24:55.496 --> 24:57.663 YESTERDAY, THE GOVERNOR MADE VERY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING 24:57.665 --> 25:01.000 VERY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF THEY KEPT SENDING 25:01.002 --> 25:01.734 TO HAPPEN IF THEY KEPT SENDING HER BILLS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE 25:01.736 --> 25:03.335 HER BILLS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE HER VETO STAMP WAITING FOR THOSE 25:03.337 --> 25:03.635 HER VETO STAMP WAITING FOR THOSE BILLS. 25:03.637 --> 25:06.505 BILLS. >> REPUBLICANS SAID THIS IS A 25:06.507 --> 25:09.608 >> REPUBLICANS SAID THIS IS A ONE-TIME PHENOMENON AND WILL 25:09.610 --> 25:10.709 ONE-TIME PHENOMENON AND WILL COME BACK TOGETHER AND BE UNITED 25:10.711 --> 25:13.245 COME BACK TOGETHER AND BE UNITED ONCE THE ISSUE IS SETTLED. 25:13.247 --> 25:15.514 ONCE THE ISSUE IS SETTLED. DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING? 25:15.516 --> 25:17.549 DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING? IS THIS A CHANGE IN THE 25:17.551 --> 25:20.252 IS THIS A CHANGE IN THE STRUCTURAL DYNAMIC AT THE 25:20.254 --> 25:20.586 STRUCTURAL DYNAMIC AT THE CAPITAL? 25:20.588 --> 25:22.488 CAPITAL? >> TOUGH TO SAY WHAT IS GOING TO 25:22.490 --> 25:23.255 >> TOUGH TO SAY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER. 25:23.257 --> 25:24.623 HAPPEN AFTER. A VERY BIG ISSUE. 25:24.625 --> 25:26.225 A VERY BIG ISSUE. WE ANTICIPATE THIS ISSUE WILL 25:26.227 --> 25:29.061 WE ANTICIPATE THIS ISSUE WILL STILL OVER TO THE ELECTIONS NEXT 25:29.063 --> 25:29.361 STILL OVER TO THE ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR. 25:29.363 --> 25:34.299 YEAR. AND THAT'S MORE THAN A YEAR 25:34.301 --> 25:34.600 AND THAT'S MORE THAN A YEAR AWAY. 25:34.602 --> 25:39.104 AWAY. BUT TO ANY EXTENT IT ONLY HAS TO 25:39.106 --> 25:41.807 BUT TO ANY EXTENT IT ONLY HAS TO REAFFIRMED REALLY THE FACTIONS 25:41.809 --> 25:44.309 REAFFIRMED REALLY THE FACTIONS WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN 25:44.311 --> 25:46.145 WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE AS 25:46.147 --> 25:46.445 THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE AS WELL. 25:46.447 --> 25:48.847 WELL. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS WE HAVE 25:48.849 --> 25:51.950 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS WE HAVE ALWAYS REGARDED THE SENATE 25:51.952 --> 25:54.119 ALWAYS REGARDED THE SENATE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AS SPLINTERED. 25:54.121 --> 25:56.855 REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AS SPLINTERED. THOSE WHO ARE MORE MAINSTREAM 25:56.857 --> 25:59.491 THOSE WHO ARE MORE MAINSTREAM AND THOSE WE CONSIDER MORE TEA 25:59.493 --> 26:03.362 AND THOSE WE CONSIDER MORE TEA PARTY AND IF ANYTHING DEVELOPS 26:03.364 --> 26:05.698 PARTY AND IF ANYTHING DEVELOPS ON THE MEDICAID SIDE OF THE 26:05.700 --> 26:07.866 ON THE MEDICAID SIDE OF THE SENATE AFFIRM THE LINES IN THE 26:07.868 --> 26:08.801 SENATE AFFIRM THE LINES IN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS. 26:08.803 --> 26:13.105 REPUBLICAN CAUCUS. >> LESS THAN A MINUTE REMAINING, 26:13.107 --> 26:18.077 >> LESS THAN A MINUTE REMAINING, L 26:18.079 --> 26:18.377 L LUIGE. 26:18.379 --> 26:21.313 LUIGE. CAN PERHAPS SOME OTHER THINGS BE 26:21.315 --> 26:22.348 CAN PERHAPS SOME OTHER THINGS BE GAINED BY DEMOCRATS? 26:22.350 --> 26:23.982 GAINED BY DEMOCRATS? >> THE FACT THAT THEY GOT WHAT 26:23.984 --> 26:25.751 >> THE FACT THAT THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED IN THE SENATE 26:25.753 --> 26:26.085 THEY WANTED IN THE SENATE BUDGET. 26:26.087 --> 26:28.220 BUDGET. AND INITIALLY THEY HAD OFFERED 26:28.222 --> 26:29.922 AND INITIALLY THEY HAD OFFERED AMENDMENTS THAT WERE VOTED DOWN 26:29.924 --> 26:33.826 AMENDMENTS THAT WERE VOTED DOWN AND THEN WHETHER THEWHEN THERE 26:33.828 --> 26:36.495 AND THEN WHETHER THEWHEN THERE AN ACTUAL ROLL CALL, SEVERAL 26:36.497 --> 26:38.530 AN ACTUAL ROLL CALL, SEVERAL REPUBLICANS VOTED WITH THE 26:38.532 --> 26:41.066 REPUBLICANS VOTED WITH THE DEFENDANTS TO SUPPORT THEM AND 26:41.068 --> 26:41.867 DEFENDANTS TO SUPPORT THEM AND ABLE TO GET THEM SUCCESSFULLY ON 26:41.869 --> 26:43.235 ABLE TO GET THEM SUCCESSFULLY ON THE BUDGET. 26:43.237 --> 26:45.270 THE BUDGET. THE COALITION WE'RE SEEING COULD 26:45.272 --> 26:46.572 THE COALITION WE'RE SEEING COULD POTENTIALLY EXPAND BEYOND THE 26:46.574 --> 26:48.007 POTENTIALLY EXPAND BEYOND THE SESSION AND WE MIGHT SEE THAT 26:48.009 --> 26:49.975 SESSION AND WE MIGHT SEE THAT CROP UP AGAIN IN OTHER MAJOR 26:49.977 --> 26:51.643 CROP UP AGAIN IN OTHER MAJOR ISSUES, A VERY LIKELY AND 26:51.645 --> 26:53.145 ISSUES, A VERY LIKELY AND POSSIBLE SCENARIO. 26:53.147 --> 27:01.920 POSSIBLE SCENARIO. >> LUI FWNCH E DEGE DELL PUERTOU 27:01.922 --> 27:02.788 >> LUI FWNCH E DEGE DELL PUERTOU FOR BEING WITH ME. 27:02.790 --> 27:04.156 FOR BEING WITH ME. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. 27:04.158 --> 27:11.196 >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. >> MORE ON THE STATEHOUSE AT A 27:11.198 --> 27:12.231 >> MORE ON THE STATEHOUSE AT A SFWLNCH 27:12.233 --> 27:12.564 SFWLNCH ZPM.ORG. 27:12.566 --> 27:13.532 ZPM.ORG. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. 27:13.534 --> 27:15.267 THAT'S OUR PROGRAM. FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL 27:15.269 --> 27:19.269 FOR "ARIZONA WEEK," I'M MICHAEL CHIHAK.